hi jacko i’m being told in jiu-jitsu that i’m using too much strength to execute techniques and dominating roles i get after it in the gym and try to be stronger and fitter i already limit my strength against same weight training partners and definitely don’t pull don’t bull rush or overpower lighter partners i want to improve my jiu-jitsu knowledge and understand the intent of reducing my strength and reducing my strength to learn the skill but where where is the balance i feel like i feel like i’m doing being penalized for working hard and being strong and there has to be an element of strength to technique right now that i’m trying to do zero strength working weak positions and they still go 100 on me i’m not learning anything right this is what he’s asking what is what is my 25 stronger than my training partners one hundred percent i’ve trained nogi for four years but ghee only for 12 months don’t judge a white belt warrior okay so you know i don’t think anyone is saying use zero strength right and just be a i used to have a uh kids in the kids class that would just like flop around like use no they’d be like noodles you know especially when you’re a partner right and i’d say hey don’t be that so no one’s telling you to use zero strength that’s not the that’s not the the goal here you just want to use less strength and i’m the same way man i work out so i can be strong and when we’re rolling if i have to use strength i’m gonna use it you bench pressed me off off you the other day from across side wall technique yeah yeah [Music] you even claimed it at the top you’re like that’s all weight lifted yeah so so that’s good right and you you used it because you had to use it you were gonna get punished and you’re like oh no i’m not gonna i’m not gonna have jocko across the side this is early in the role so boom got bench press people were watching too but yeah yeah so so yeah we we want to be strong for sure but i’ll tell you this is a key thing when i’m going to train with someone i’m going to use just enough skill and strength to stay slightly ahead of them just enough am i trying to crush them if someone’s and i’ll tell you if someone’s way lighter than me then but they have kind of equivalent skill then i’m going to try and limit my strength as much as i can so it’s jiu-jitsu versus jiu-jitsu for sure but i’m definitely going to use my strength if needed for really for a couple reasons the first reason is because of ego sure right i don’t want to tap i don’t get caught in a bad position i don’t like that yeah you know if you can’t if you train like when we’re done training i’m definitely using strength because i’m dripping with sweat right i mean i’m using physical attributes but that’s not the only reason the other reason that you have to use your strength sometimes is you don’t want to give people a false sense of security that hey that worked right even your good training partners like you don’t want to say oh the guy gets a position so you just tap right because he’s in a competition or in the street the person’s not just going to tap they need to do it right so that’s it i guess the bottom the bottom line is my guess is this dude is probably using too much strength he’s probably one of those guys that’s naturally really strong and he works out and he’s thinking i’ve been training nogi for four years so now when i put this g on man i’m angry about it because i’m falling behind a little bit so i’m gonna use some strength yeah i would say man just try try and relax and just one of my favorite pieces of advice to give relax harder [Music] just relax try and flow when you roll a little bit and it definitely will make you it’ll make you better in the end the more you relax the the more the better you’ll get in the end yeah and certain i found that like certain guys that’s just their just their method really just strong yeah and that’s how they roll and they’re just aggressive physically that’s how and i found that they can a lot of times they can get more technical right you know but really that’s kind of their their strengths in a way and that’s it’s just their way of rolling and so you guys are the opposite you know what now that you mention it some people that are like that they have like an on and off switch they’re either all on or they’re just super docile yeah it’s almost like you got to find that middle ground if you can if you can but people are different like let’s say um like remember franklin yesterday’s friends crazy okay consider him where he’s gonna be real technical and flexible and flowy and stuff and that’s his jiu jitsu you can he can i need to be more strong and rigid and aggressive he can train that but his default is that flowy flexible way and and guys who are like this i think that’s going to be kind of their default they can train kind of deviate a little bit and get it more for sure but that’s kind of just their that’s that’s the vehicle they have you know yeah and it’s it’s almost like a genetic thing it’s not genetic i know that but it’s it’s kind of it’s almost like the foundation of their franklin was a trip to roll with because he was so flexible but not just in a normal way yeah you know what is flexible in his his spine yes like when you put your weight on him and he would just like like jellyfish it was awesome yeah it was like an octopus that’s exactly what it’s like i wish he kept training man he was so good i saw him pretty not too long ago yeah yeah he trained it like occasionally yeah he yeah he was getting good for a while yeah really good still good though still good um but yeah it’s kind of there’s it’s more of a mental thing like if you mentally ha there’s drills like you can do you remember um jerry loudon was his name he jammed up his knees but we used to do this thing he’s like hey let’s just flow right and you know people say let’s just flow so then they’re trying to kill you yeah he wouldn’t though he would be like his flow would be like a fast pace and you could even try to hold him down and and he’d just be like falling flying floyd he would get you in a good position then he’d get right out of it into another you know like he was really good at flowing to the point where you get kind of tired because you’re moving so much it’s not full speed flow it’s almost full speed though so i remember doing that a lot with him and it really translated when i would roll it would be like i felt like that difference in technique yeah no that’s really good i i do i always do a warm-up round with andy like that we just go position position but we’re going but we’re going like you know we’re just go we’re flowing yeah that sounds like that yeah but that’s what it is i mean that’s what it is don’t ever do that with dean okay no i’m serious don’t ever you know don’t ever say listen to him say like hey let’s just get warmed up because he’s not gonna do that yeah he’s going to flow until he’s in a good position he’s going to smash you so don’t do it you have to just go hard no yeah okay good yeah yeah andy’s real good at that yeah yeah yeah stuff too yeah but that’s a good way though like if you yeah that’s i see what you’re saying that’s a good way to learn to relax more yes yeah yes yeah when that becomes more common because let’s face it i mean if you’re strong and you’re going into roles and people if to the point where people are saying hey you’re using too much strength yeah if you’re hearing that you’re getting like getting asked if you’re hearing that from multiple people yeah there’s an issue man yeah that’s that my point is even though you’re saying saying hey some people are just that way don’t accept that like you who the guy that asked this question don’t accept ekko’s thing of saying some people just that way because that means you’re just going to keep doing it and you won’t get better because you will the more you relax the better you get yeah for sure and of course i don’t mean it like that yeah i know you don’t yeah i know i know you don’t but i’m saying like don’t get that misconception that that’s what echo’s trying to say hey you’re just that way go with it no don’t go with it listen what echo is saying when he’s saying hey find somebody to flow roll with and just let it flow yeah it’s gonna be pretty rare you find a person whose kind of default method is this and then by the way i just realized i don’t say flow roll because i was thinking about what i say to andy or we don’t say it anymore we just do it but yeah i usually go hey let’s get a warm-up round a so i call a warm-up okay slow roll yeah but sometimes sometimes it’s just like a technique sharpener okay nonetheless let’s say he does do let’s say he does do some flow rolling some drills and gets better at it i would i would guess that there is going to be a significant remainder of his game that’s going to be this aggressive game okay yes no the dude yeah holmes is aggressive on the map for sure another little mindset that might help is think less competitively because you know how like a lot of people and really it’s true though here’s the thing this this element needs to be there where it when it’s time to spar it should be competitive otherwise it’s like what are we doing you know i want to if i want you to be competitive because i want an accurate look of what it’s like to roll with jocko or a guy like jacko big strong good at jiu jitsu whatever if you’re just flo rolling with me and non-competitively every single time i’m not getting the work that i need yeah really no that’s that’s what i was talking about earlier too is that’s why you got your yeah yeah you got to use strength yeah so it should be competitive but if someone if people are complaining you’re going too hard you’re going straight up like every role is adcc yeah on the line life or death you know kinda more in that direction the moon giles yeah so if you think maybe less of that yeah and understand that this is this is training if you want to get less using strength and stuff you got to kind of train that stuff ultimately
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