what are things to look for when you’re debating whether to raise your voice or yell do to those under you being lazy or unmotivated you all talk a lot about the importance of self-control and not just losing it but would you say there’s a time and place for raising the intensity while still being respectful towards your guys so there you go yelling and screaming get some sometimes you got to just drop the hammer Jaakko yelled and screamed at us all the time I’ve talked about on this you know I think on the podcast we started talking about all the time I mean the number of times that Jocko screamed and yelled at me zero zero times in all the years that we work together and I know I gave him at least dozens maybe hundreds of opportunities to want to probably done that and he didn’t do that because he realized it wasn’t effective so now listen there there is there is a time where you know if there’s a major safety issue going on and you’re trying to get people’s attention and you want people a ceasefire or you need to rally the troops where you got to raise your voice and get people’s attention and I think that’s you can’t be afraid to do that so there are certainly times rights a life those probably signed up over there or stuff like that I mean for sure that’s is that yelling well yeah I’m definitely raising my voice and using a loud voice but I’m not doing it whatever with anger it’s just hey you got to hear me and so and also you know there is times where you’ve got to you’ve got to pick up the intensity in your voice so that people realize there’s something important happening right there’s just enough now you don’t want to eat yell and scream and get all crazy but to be like hey I need vehicles here now like that is different than hey can you get the vehicles over here now right those are two different things and you I would react differently if I heard those two voices so yes now to go over you now no one now we’re creating a whole panic situation but that’s a great point too right and it’s it’s the kind of you know never cry wolf you know so when you’re if you’re yelling all the time how do you do this vehicles over here right now when there’s nothing at stake and it’s no big deal and it’s just a routine movement you know then when you do that and you really need it then no one’s paying attention they they go just laughs yelling again into the radio so so I think that’s another reason why I actually have seen Jocko raised his voice on one occasion yeah yeah and when there was a serious issue that needed to be addressed and you needed to get the person’s attention to show just how serious of a situation it was and it got everybody’s attention it got everybody’s attention right away because you never did that and when you did do it it was like oh man yeah and I was always tell that to leaders like being on the radio and this good goes for being in a meeting right if you go to a meeting if you’re in charge of a meeting and you talk the whole time and then you have something important to the to say at the end well that’s great but it’s not as impactful as when you say very few things during the meeting and then at the end you say hey guys listen up here’s what’s going on with us and everyone everyone pays attention so I’ve said this before the less you talk the more people listen and that goes true here the more you yell the less people listen and it takes away the opportunity if you ever do have to yell it’s gonna have zero impact so my blanket statement is you should hardly ever have to raise your voice and you should just barely ever happen

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