in podcast 54 the Armed Forces officer and member that book the Armed Forces officer yeah one of my fav edition yeah can you expound on the difference between these two these two seemingly contradictory quotes from the manual a firm hold at the beginning pays tenfold dividend of the timid approach followed by a show of firmness later on from general Malone’s story of the World War one compared with and general Malone’s if you remember the story was there’s a mad messed up unit and he went and there was like alright get squared away get these boards in place get out of the mud what you need to get your uniforms together just tighten about out right like firmness right out of the gate yeah and then compared to okay here’s a quote it’s a mistake for an officer on taking a new post to order sweeping changes affecting the other men in the belief that this will give him a reputation for action and firmness the studying of situations is the overture of the steadying of it and that’s from general LeMay and general LeMay if you remember that one he said hey none of you guys would be in these positions unless you were doing things right so I assume that you’re doing a good job and we’re gonna continue what you’re doing that’s what he said when he took over so what’s going on here is you got two completely different situations and the two situations are one is a guy taking over first situation a known bad situation the troops are lacking discipline they’re not executing the mission if you remember that story they weren’t even doing basic military bearing they didn’t they weren’t saluting the officers they just hadn’t thrown everything out the window that’s a situation you got to come in you got to get firm out of the gate mm-hmm that’s what you got to do now they got to know that they got to know that things are gonna change they got to know it’s real they got to know there’s a new plan and they got to know what that new plan is and then they got to know that there’s new standard and they got to know what the new standards are boom and it’s the same thing you know Hackworth he did that he came in with some you know if you remember when he took over the the hardcore battalion what became the hardcore battalion the first thing he did was like all those radios and guitars and all this crap that you have sitting around base put it all in the middle the base tomorrow and we’re getting rid of it all that was a big change now Hackworth then he then he started implementing two changes a day if you remember hey gotta get everyone carry your weapon at all times that’s the next change okay get your helmet okay now we gotta get a helmet cover so he just made one one or two small changes a day after he made some big sweeping changes out of the gate because it was a jacked-up battalion and now now the difference is if you’re going into a situation where everything’s going fine or okay or at a bare minimum it’s like normal hmm well then you don’t need to step in there and show that you have a man by making these sweeping changes you don’t need to do that it comes across it comes across like the people that you just took charge of have no idea what they’re doing and yet you know you don’t respect what they did what they what their methodology you don’t respect their their performance because you’re coming in and saying oh echo by the way the way you report to chord the podcast you need to get rid of those microphones you need to edit it tighter your base is to you know what would you be thinking if I came in and said that well you know mean little bit different but you know I understand your pain point being if somebody comes in and starts criticizing you right when you do it when you’re doing a good job you know you’re doing a good job yeah nice I think you’re doing a good job there’s something minute I get on you about that bass occasionally that’s you hit that’s really on you you know your brother bass yeah my Park so that’s the thing if that’s the decision you got to make and guess what it’s not black and white you don’t go into some units it’s not like you’re gonna get a choice between a unit that’s doing horrible and a unit that’s doing great you’re gonna get everything in between and therefore you have to modulate your leadership to reflect if it’s if it’s a group that might have a tendency of being a little bit jacked up and they’re getting close guess what got a got to be maybe not sweeping changes but you might need to make a little statement right if it’s a group that’s performing awesome fantastic top top tEEN TOP whatever you might need to come and say hey guys I see that you’re doing great I’m here to just keep you guys doing what you’re doing let me know what you need to support boom and it could be anywhere in between that that spectrum mmm that’s why leadership is challenging you get it because you got to be already gotta have a nuanced gotta be able to modulate yeah gonna figure out where that is and you got to test it out too once you give that sweeping order you got to see what kind of reaction you got mm-hmm you know you got to see two people just instantly Rebell okay then let’s talk this let’s get some feedback what’s going on mmm clearly we have a disrespect scenario going on we need to get to bottom this let me get some key leaders in here let me talk to them get some feedback which you should do that before you make any sweeping changes anyways you gotta at least talk to the key leadership get them in the game get them on board yeah that’s why leadership is awesome that’s why be that’s why this stuff is so fun cuz it’s challenging it’s different every single time yeah it feels like kind of like what we’re talking about earlier where if you start to understand the formula all the different details that come out you can kind of apply the formula in one way and even then still dynamic but but you can you can just get a better grasp it’s just like jujitsu cause if you understand the concept yeah that you have to be able to move your hips there’s a bunch of different ways you get your hips moving if you understand the concept that you need to immobilize the hips to pass the guard if you understand that concept there’s all kind of different ways you can do it if you understand the concept of totally jacked up team is gonna need a sweeping change to get their attention and get them to understand that things are gonna change and what they were doing was unacceptable if you understand that concept that that’s what it’s gonna take you can apply it all the way through those gradiation x’ all the way down to hey this team is doing great and I don’t need to change much I just need to give them the support that they need yeah conceptual instruction very important
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