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the jurogan experience now obviously the next course of progression for a guy like you would be mma yeah now i know that you had talked about doing mma in the past but now it seems like it's actually going to happen yeah um so john doesn't want me to compete in mma because he feels like jiu jitsu is just about to break into that next level of professional sports uh so for me at least right now i feel like i need at least someone from my team to be able to do the things that i'm doing before i can kind of move away from jiu jitsu into mma because right now we have gary and mma he's carrying our flag our team's flag at mma we have me the top of the heap in jiu jitsu so like if craig or nikki rod and my brother can start doing the things that i'm doing and they went in atcc absolute maybe or they go out and they start beating and submitting all the high level guys then i feel like maybe i can leave uh jiu jitsu because if i start fighting mma i'm going to focus on mma so i feel like if one of my teammates can kind of take my place then i can start moving into mma and then and go from there so you look at it as a you really do genuinely look at it as a team effort you're not looking at just as you're as an individual most athletes are very selfish and they just take take take whereas we have we have a we have a very great a very good team cohesion and uh you know we're always looking out for one another and you know i find that that's the way that people operate best if you look at most teams it's basically just a bunch of tough guys in a room who trained together who have no loyalty and if someone offers them a better deal they're going to go somewhere else and train there um whereas that's like whereas with us we're very loyal to john and uh you know everything that everything that we do is the same like my game is very similar to john's very similar to gary's very similar to craig's
we all are taught by john and we all follow the same ideas and the same philosophy of jiu jitsu so the loyalty within the team is uh is very strong and uh you know i feel that it's all it's always going to be a team effort um you know without without john i wouldn't be as good as i am without gary i wouldn't be as good as i am without nikki it's the collaboration of minds in the gym that that really pushes you forward um so you know i feel like we're different in that in that sense that we're not a team that recruits people we're a team that builds that builds athletes from almost the ground up like you see like a you know a lot of the big mma teams uh or even the big jutsu teams like autos for example they recruit guys guys who are already successful they recruit them they give them a place to live they give them a training program and they they just recruit tough guys but if you look at a guy like andre and you look at his black belts they all have vastly different games conan's game is different than andres hanger's game is different than andres keenan's game is different than andre's and it's basically just a team of recruited guys who are a bunch of tough guys training in the same room whereas john we have a team of homegrown guys who all do the same thing like they all have discernible games that all mimic what john teaches uh and they just have you know slight changes and variations due to our physical attributes and and and personalities now when you say you think of it as a team you mean this is taking it to a completely different level because you're not willing to progress your career outside the realm of jiu jitsu until someone else can carry the crown yes that's that's next level commitment to the team philosophy yeah i mean like i said you have a guy like john who's like the most selfless person in the world like he shows up every day and he gives you everything like you know i want i want what's best for the team
uh even if it's not what's best for me you know i wanna i want what's what's best for for for john's team uh you know i want him to go down in history as being the guy who had the absolute best team in the world and um you know right now you can make the argument that sure you know gordon's the best in the world but the rest of the guys don't win as much as him so i want to get those the rest of the guys on my team to to my level so that you don't have the argument anymore of sure gordon's good but he's the only one who really wins when it counts um you know i want i want to go into adcc with my team and i want to win every single division so that would be insane that you know that's not outside the realm of possibility either that's what's crazy yeah i mean next year we have gary might cut to 66 kilos so if gary's at 66 my brother will beat 77. craig will be at 88 i'll be at 99 if they let me do the division and then nicky rod will be at 99 plus what do you mean if they let you do the division so for adcc when you win the absolute you go to the super fight so this the the the super fight champion fights the winner of the absolute now i won the absolute last year so i'm only supposed to have one fight but i've requested to do the weight division as well because you normally would just do the super fight but i want to do the super fight and i also want to do my weight division so i have instead of having one match i had five matches no one's ever asked to do that people have asked to do the absolute before but the problem is if i win the absolute and then i win the super fight the super fight winner's supposed to fight the absolute winner so you can't fight yourself right so it doesn't make sense to do the super fight and the absolute but it does make sense to the weight division and the absolute so if i if i if they let me do the weight division i'll be the first person in history to ever
to ever do the weight division plus the super fight at the same time wow now how is gary juggling training for mma and and jujitsu as well that guy is a machine he basically just he didn't he didn't do less jiu jitsu to do mma he just added mma on top of the jiu-jitsu sessions so he trains mma seven days a week and he spars lightly seven days a week and then he finishes that and right now we don't have a gym set up in puerto rico so we're working around the schedule the class schedule of the gym owner so we have emma he does mma at nine and then he trains for like an hour spars then he has like a 30 minute break and then he does uh and then he does jiu-jitsu at 11 and he just adds a session on so he does mma jiu-jitsu seven days a week and like within like two hours of each other and when he's training mma he's also grappling yeah so he's grappling twice yeah most most of the mma training is shoot boxing is standing to take downs because he's already so good on the ground he needs to get he needs to work and fence wrestling and shoot boxing uh but he definitely there definitely is some grappling when he does mma so he grapples and and spars and then he pretty much goes right to jiu jitsu and has to do that so i mean that's definitely not an easy thing to do and seven days a week is definitely not an easy thing to do and how is he doing in terms of striking coaching like is he did he bring someone with him to puerto rico was he using a different person in new york what was he doing he uses john john is our striking coach really telling you john knows just as much about every martial art as he does jiu jitsu like john as our wrestling coach john's our jiu-jitsu coach john's our striking coach john's mma coach like john coaches gary for every aspect of mma while wrestling everything holy yeah so he coaches him for kicking and
everything yeah dude people notice about john john's first martial art was muay thai john did muay thai for over a decade when he was growing up and he studied all the best muay thai guys i mean john knows a lot about striking i mean he coach like i said like people notice about john they think he's just a leglock guy or just the grappler like he coaches gary and like gary's like he's progressing fast and as far as the striking's going um he's only been striking for a year and a half now and he's uh you know he looks he looks comfortable out there he does um and uh that's shocking that he's only been doing it a year and a half a year and a half two years maybe uh but yeah john's his coach john john john coaches everything catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience