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the jogan experience without making light or or trying to be disrespectful like if the things that I tried to um figure out like a like a game like a video game was sex money power right like as an artist I had subscribed to the starving artist like type right it was like Top Ramen you know holes in your clothes like like homeless like I was like that is what a real artist is until I met a successful artist until I I was like oh [ __ ] like you can have a manager and an agent and an office and like you can like not starve and and I remember at that point I was in my early 20s I was like man people sure like talk about money a lot right like it seems to be like this thing that causes a lot of problems in marriages and business and I go it doesn't seem that hard to me as some and I'm saying this as a guy in my 20s that's poor I'm like what if I just like try to be as rich as possible for the next 10 years or five years like what if that's my singular focus and so I did it and it you know it was a lot of work but like the video game for of money is over for me now right like I like at every industry gambling the stock market um like even like people go oh that's like this Korean Force Gump and he just he was like this um like this homeless guy that like like got lucky with Facebook I'm like that was like a lot of work to make that happen you know um and I was already kind of wealthy when I when I made that deal but people like to tell that story so I made millions of dollars gambling I made millions of dollars with my art I made millions of dollars with Facebook and it it was a lot of hard work but I'm like it's kind of if I wanted to you tell me how cringe I'm I I sound I'll just stop but like it's not going to be that hard for me to become a billionaire at a certain level right like I've amassed hundreds of millions I'm like if that's my goal now if that's my video game and then I know billionaires I mean Sean Parker and Mark being the most but I know tons of like secret billionaires right and I go I don't want any of their lives I don't want I don't want any of like it's just money you don't have to have their life right to to have money right and you don't have to think about money if you have it right this the problem with
money is people become obsessed with it because it's so difficult to attain and there's so much societal value put on being wealthy right that it becomes the thing instead of a thing I mean I have I have a friend that has like hundreds of billions of dollars and hundreds of billions hundreds of billions like one of the you know I have one too yeah and you you know how weird those guys are right they're weird guys and and I'm pretty close with him he's not just like a you know and I said we're having dinner and I was like I'm feeling confident I was like give me one he's like what I was like give me one one billion and he's like I don't understand yeah I was like give me one billion and he's like I was like [ __ ] you know I don't need it like you know I'm not going to go buy cars and houses he's like what do you want to what do you want to do with that he's like Dave I don't know if you know how money works you don't just go up to someone and ask them for a billion I go [ __ ] I just did and he's like well do you have a plan are you going to show me charts and graphs I was like no it's all going to be Instinct I will take that 1 billion and he's like dude you got to come to me with like I'm not saying no but you got to have a better you know you got you got to you got to have like how you going I go I promise you I will spend it like like the most irresponsible possible like it'll be like exactly cuz most of these people that have billions are like Geniuses and they spent everything is down to a fraction and they they just grind and crunch numbers in their brain and that's not how I think I think very abstract I think and I go I'm going to do stuff that on paper makes absolutely no sense and I promise you I will change the planet with that money like I'm going to do [ __ ] that and then he was like he was he didn't say no but he was thinking it over and he's like dude there like there's no way like my money guys are going to this and then I sat there and I thought about it because money is power I was like dude I don't want a billion dollar I don't want that responsibility and ultimately he was like n no and I was like thank you so just a wild thought spontaneous yeah if he had given it to me he would have he would have
[ __ ] I would have been like those weird people I was like I don't want to touch that I don't want to tou you would have tried it out for a while you would have tried it out for a while and then you would have gone back to being you right and then so so that has that game of that video game of money has no no um it's not fun for me anymore because I've I've so years ago like 2009 was my last art show where I actually sold stuff for money and uh and I didn't feel good it was like the my Galler Steve lazares is like bankses banksy's a guy and he's like Cho like you're on fire Street arts on fire right now like what do you want to do I go it's going to be in La it has to be in La it has to be on Rodeo Drive like it has to be on the most expensive Street in the world and I want like every celebrity there and like you know and so it did it happened it was like it was a show in Beverly Hill all the celebrities came all the fancy people came I sold all the art and the next day I didn't feel any different and and then at that point the artist gets objectified to like just I got a bosot I got a Cho I got a B and I'm like I'm like the guy that's buying my art that can afford it he doesn't care about the art he just wants to like it's a dick contest right he just wants to show off like hey I got a Cho and I'm like I'm pretty sure that's not what the universe wants for me to like just make expensive stuff um so at that point I told my manager and everyone I work with I'm like everything now is free like painting with kids painting with guys just out of jail painting with at risk youth murals Muse anything where it's free that's what I'm about I'm not you know or if I like like someone I'll just trade or give it to them but I'm not selling [ __ ] anymore so that kind of like ended like you know and then I had uh Finance guys and everything about wealth manag is about how to preserve wealth and make more money and I go uh let's do like a Monte Carlo simulation and figure out when I'm going to die by my lifestyle of How I Live and let's get it down so that I have zero by the time I'm done like I want to and they're like so every business decision I've made since I've made that decision is I just lose money I just lose money and
then um the video game of sex which I wasn't very good at is age 0 to 30 I'd been with five six maybe seven girls like and they were all like long-term kind of relationships there was no like one night stands and then at that point like 29:30 I was like I'm really not good at this like I don't got any game I'm not and um like the same way if you saw me in my 20s as like a street urchin like Street kid and and he's like oh I'm going to be the richest artist in the world you'd be like you know what the odds of that happening are like it's it's ridiculous in the same way and like not to sound vulgar or you know objectify women but that's what I did at that age I was young and I was like um I'm tired of the Asians are like sexist small dick you know the the math nerd like I want to [ __ ] the most amount of women as possible and that was even more ridiculous than me saying I want to be the richest artist and then and and then I just went on a tear for a decade right like I just it was awkward at first and then um like a video game at the end a combination of like like a comedian working out their material right and with the oncoming social media and all the you know internet stuff I could figure out on the dates I've been on which material killed like what what did I say to make what girl laugh and you know and and I would have all those like a crazy person like in my notes folders and I could say the perfect combination of words to make a girl laugh or like so using everything at my disp anything like money uh uh you know fun charm like jokes uh Power like I'll get you on this thing or like just queuing in on what is it that you want and I can get you that and you know I was sleeping with multiple women a day and I was like this like you would never believe I okay not you I would never believe what I was doing like I was every night tens tens tens like Victoria Secret models aess celebrities just like I was like whoa whoa whoa and you know I got to a point where I was like I wasn't my friends and I debate they're like you're you were like a week away from sucking dick and I was like I was like it's probably like more like two days away cuz it just gets there right
like I was just like in rooms like having threesums group sex and I was like I'm an artist I should you know and my parents were convinced I was like I I was in a car uh going to an art show uh with my parents in Mexico City and my mom you know she's like completely invested in my career and she's like hey you know um Andy Warhol used to do like 10 20 push-ups and then his mom would give him like a Snicker bar and I was like that's an interesting fact mom didn't know that and he was gay and I was like oh okay cool you know Leonardo Dent when he used to go out like he would no one would know he's an artist he wouldn't have like a speck of paint on him and I was like oh I didn't know that Mom and he was gay and I was like what what where's this going and then my dad's in the front driving he's like he's not gay I told you he's not gay and my mom's like you know we're Christian and you know but we know that you're an artist and we know you haven't brought a woman home in like 10 years um so just it's okay you could come out of the closet and I was like and I was like I I like I love being gay so much like I I'm not like I just I almost wish I was right like I when I play like Dungeons and Dragons or a role playing game or or uh RPG like video game or anytime I act or do anything that's like online or like a game I always want to be a gay guy like I just love it I love that feeling I want to play gay guys if you know and but I just don't love dick I I want to I want to love it but I just why why do you want to I I just like part of it is like I my shame makes me Shameless and like I like it when it hurts kind of thing like I just I got close where there was a transsexual woman I think her name was EV like her penis was right here and I was like it's right there I should just like at least lick it or touch it at least just to say I tried it and I could say I didn't like it or I did like it but I just couldn't I was like I was so bored not of just [ __ ] or women or whatever I just was bored of the Endeavor of that and then and then you know you meet people and everyone has their game like Hollywood people are like I got get that Emmy or that Oscar or you know and so I I I like pick the game I want to play money P and then it's like I sit
here and the thing that I learned the number one important lesson from gambling is get out while you're ahead is like I love how much money I have right now like it's the perfect amount I love that um like I have no regrets like I've had sex with so many different women that like I'm just I don't need that anymore I'm so I could be a monk for the rest of my life if I want to you know like and so that there's only one final quest and that's the spiritual Quest right and that's where like people say [ __ ] like the answer is love and it's like it is right and like like um like there will be [ __ ] there's [ __ ] that we talked about before we start recording that we can't and then there will be [ __ ] that we talk about later and and we live in this world now where it's like it's a crazy world right and the answer is love and everyone says it and it's in movies and it's in books but it's what does that path look like and so I go towards where I feel that and I feel that in Africa when I go to Africa I feel that like in my soul to my bones and you know I look like this in Austin no one judges me like you would think going to Africa the places I go where there's no Asians that they would say [ __ ] but they don't they just accept me they call me brother they take me in they show me their lives and they're like you're just part of our tribe now and I'm like it makes me want to cry you know so and the fact that you know I have this beautiful relationship with you and you know you let me talk about this stuff and then those words get to you know like I don't know Logan Paul that guy calls me up right after the show he's like take me to Africa bro take me I'm like okay you know like and and it's just it's just a tremendous thing and then you know we we made this film and it's you know it's it's like the best documentary I've ever seen so if anyone like uh wants to see a trailer or it's we are hodza the mea Foundation