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the jurogan experience this is uh an odd idea but i think what it's doing is it's forcing us to adapt and evolve our ability to detect to detect [ __ ] and it's doing it almost like an immune system response like what what we're reacting to and what we're recognizing from all this stuff is like oh we didn't know what this was and this has resulted in this riot whatever you want to call the capitol hill attack and now we're looking at more censorship on social media we're looking at uh you know like them trying to batten down the hatches and figure out how to handle something like queuing on or the people that were allegedly promoting these ideas a lot of them that are banned from social media the stuff that you highlighted in your show we we have to figure out what's true and what's not true and so there's been some sort of draconian measures that have been um suggested you know like hiring some sort of a team that goes over social media and makes sure that everything is according to what they deem to be correct or incorrect which obviously is subject to biases and we're we're very aware that that's going on today that there's a lot of that going on today whether the necessarily a truth doesn't like the hunter biden laptop story is a great example of that right like uh the social media platforms they censored news from the new york post one of the oldest newspapers in america on the hunter biden laptop story because they decided that somehow or another it was propaganda or somehow or another it was not good to get that information but it was news it was real news it was a real story and they decided it was too close to the election this could hurt biden we don't want trump to win so you're dealing with biases this is not just like simply here's information that we know to be true or here's information that we know to be a lie we're going to stop that
from getting through no they knew it to be true but they decided to stop it because it wasn't convenient or it didn't fit the narrative they were trying to promote right it's very it's and how do you find a neutral arbiter right the truth right um if if you are going to entrust someone with that responsibility and i think that that's it it's just an incredibly slippery slope incredibly slippery and and what these big tech companies have have uh suggested is that well maybe we don't use humans maybe we use algae eyes right you know to to moderate everything and you know the algorithms had had that in many ways had bolstered something like q because they're they're basically uh sociopathic when it comes to just trying to drive attention as much as possible so now they can kind of invert those algorithms and and punish those who um talk about uh that kind of content and often times even if even if their goal was just to predict prevent i don't know conversation around um q and on because they consider it to be problematic what else gets swept up what else gets swept up with that um i mean i saw i saw a lot of people who were reporting on q and on maybe coming from the uh the side of critiquing it their videos were being wiped out um you know people who were documenting january the 6th their content was being wiped out people who were critical of q and on they had websites that were um sort of on the other side that was being wiped out as well and and that's because of course it's a it's sort of this blunt force that that an algorithm wields so people even people that were analyzing the movement from a critical standpoint people who are looking like how ridiculous this is look at this they had their channels wiped out as well yes so any content on cue and not they just want to erase it from the internet essentially that seemed to be the the initial response yeah it's it's so strange it'll move together in sync i mean i i think that if i did not have you know hbo in my sales with this project it wouldn't have seen the light of day really like if you try to put it on youtube you think oh yeah yeah i mean when we even when we
so when we first released the series um you know there was there was there were some articles floating around like oh maybe this is going to make it things worse um if i typed in q into the storm into youtube it wouldn't auto populate at a certain point it started out auto populating and then that went away so um yeah i i i wouldn't feel confident at all that um you know if we didn't have a gorilla in our corner uh that um that this story that revealed ultimately who was behind q anon uh would have been seen would have been able to find an audience um and then shout out to hbo shout out to hbo i mean they really have my backs they've been amazing for decades you know you really think about it i mean they're the people that when bill maher's show politically incorrect got pulled off of what was it on abc i forget yeah i'm not sure network television um they immediately took it brought it over turn it into real time and made it even better you know it's uncensored now and and it's in my opinion real time with bill maher is probably one of the very best social commentary shows and and comedy shows that like really doesn't pull any punches on any network ever you want to hear something [ __ ] crazy so yes just yesterday i was talking with someone who's helping distribute the film and i said well what about amazon you know are we gonna be able to put it out on amazon internationally and they said well as of the last year they have stopped taking documentaries all documentaries what you cannot publish a documentary on their platform and the reason was because that i was told is because you know there was there was all this conspiracy flat earth stuff and they were they were getting blow back that eventually they said we don't want to have to decide what we publish and what we don't what's real and what's not we're just not going to publish anything
and the example they gave me that they couldn't get published was the cove i don't know if you saw that the dolphin document documentary you know it won an oscar yeah and i just uh just to check it you know i looked it up and sure enough the cove wasn't available on on amazon so you know those who said that there wouldn't be a slow creep of censorship you know kind of starting with things that i think everybody agrees should be you know they wouldn't like to be in society you know things like the daily stormer maybe a lot of people don't want 8-chan you know it's a there's a progression yeah you know until you end up it seems like something like you know that the cove can't find an audience on a major platform and i don't want to conflate government censorship of the corporate censorship too much however in a lot of ways it does feel like the government has passed the buck to these corporations to do what they legally can't which i think is the same thing we saw the government do with privacy right like they wouldn't have been able to get all of this data from us directly but if you give it to a facebook or a twitter it's very easy for the government to then go and get access to that information so i think what we saw happen with the fourth amendment we're now seeing happen with the first amendment where they can say well look we couldn't restrict conversation around certain topics we couldn't directly decide what's true or what's not we're going to put that in the hands of these companies and of course these companies have intimate relationships with um with many members of of the government you know there's a revolving door there so i i when people want to talk about what limiting what we can say online or limiting um disinformation to other things i i think that it's almost the wrong place to start i think we have to go back to the privacy issues and i actually think if we had not let privacy be eroded online we wouldn't be having this debate you know because if
if these gigantic companies hadn't collected thousands of data points on us you know didn't know our fears our desires if they hadn't built these psychometric profiles they wouldn't have been able to manipulate us use these algorithms to drive us into echo chambers which have really created these disparate realities and now these disparate realities can't agree necessarily on a set of facts sometimes you're considered you know sometimes people will be ostracized for even to talking to somebody from the quote unquote other side right um and and so now there's this conversation about what should be allowed to be said online uh and i think that that's simply a byproduct of of you know our privacy having been eroded so you know if i was to do anything about these issues i would start by restoring rights i would go back and say all right well how do we get you know how do we get ownership and privacy rights online when it comes to our our personal data let's start there before we we start you know going after the speech itself watch the entire episode for free only on spotify