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the jurogan experience well sports are basically a proxy of war right right it's kind of like it's a it's like fake war yeah it's like in a replacement yeah it's like a replacement yeah yeah it's like when when the raiders are going to play the dolphins it's basically now it's vegas right right right it's basically florida is going to war with las vegas right exactly we get it out of our system on in in an hour and a half you know that's what it was invented for that's what football was actually invented for oh yeah yeah there was an article i read about i think we might have even talked about it on the podcast at one point in time about how football was invented um to be like uh to give people something to do that was like a replacement for war right when there was when they were in between when there's no war to fight yeah and in the beginning of it a lot of it was like native americans playing like some of the best early players were native americans right yeah i was reading this this whole thing about the history of football i wish i could remember more details but again i don't really follow football either so yeah casually was glancing at this article and i gave up on it yeah but when you see how people are so passionate and passionate by it it's like well would cleveland be marching on on pittsburgh if they didn't have the browns and the steelers like would all these young men be just i think you need to give people things like that to do yeah i think legitimately when you get an enormous mass of people like the united states is not united states is 300 and whatever million people they need some things that they can root on yeah they root for and they need some things that are like very important and serious to them yeah it takes you out of your every day it takes all that aggression and puts it towards something yeah it does yeah it does were you ever a hockey fan no i was a hockey fan for a while what happened they did you wrong yeah they just went into i was with the

rangers like as a kid and then they won the cup and it was like this huge thing and then for the next like decade they were just so bad it was just like i saw you're a fair weather fan is that what you're trying to say it was pretty fair they yeah i guess so i didn't just show up when they won the cup but i i bailed at a certain point well when i you know that one day that i went to see the red sox game that yeah got into tae kwon do from that day on all i really cared about was martial arts mm-hmm combat sports that's really all i was interested in i was always interested in boxing i always was a big boxing fan right but then i got really into martial arts and that that became my obsession so i didn't watch any sports after that right no you were doing it you were participating but it's also like the stuff that i watched i'd only watch combat sports i'd watch boxing or kickboxing right there was no mma at the time and no youtube by the way yeah nothing i would get vhs tapes you get vhs tapes back when the vhs came out yeah i would record like say if marvin hagler was fighting on hbo i would record it and watch it later oh my god oh my god did you find the thing on the origins of football uh i remember there's i think there's two different stories there that you there's definitely a story about the native american roots and football i know yeah because there was some it's like how jim thorpe got involved oh right right you see the picture of jim thorpe when he was running in the olympics no and he had uh one shoe that was uh a shoe that he found and it didn't fit him right so he had to put like two socks on like yeah and he won any one gold medal homemade like [ __ ] up shoes and they were like shoes yeah like dress shoes yeah they look like shoes like that's all that's all people had back then right shoes they ran in yeah look at the image of them like look oh my god it's like a wing tip yeah i mean it looks like it [ __ ] barely fits him jim thorpe legendary native

american athlete had his shoes stolen just before he's about to compete in the olympics he found a mismatched pair of shoes in the trash can and went on to win a gold medal wearing them he was also the first native american to win a gold medal for the united states wow let's show a picture of his face like that is a hard man yeah that's a guy who's not gonna get stopped by a [ __ ] pair of shoes god you know he should have played batman [Laughter] he's dead look at this little shoe there look at that vintage shirt yeah oh my god that's what they ran in it's just like a piece of leather it looks like there's some kind of traction on the bottom yeah some kind of thing on the bottom like god you think about just the the num the stuff that like regular people could wear now compared to that oh no god everything like everybody had like one one pair of pants one shirt one sweater i know you know what i mean and that was it whenever they show like baseball games and you show it like wow they really dressed back then they wore suits and ties to the baseball game it's all they had right it wasn't casual clothes you weren't putting on board shorts and it was also a t-shirt to go to something like that was a big event there was no television right yeah did you ever see there was a um a thing we watched the other day it was when jack johnson fought jim jeffries in reno nevada and you looked out at the audience first of all there's no ladies there right it was almost all men and everyone was dressed in a suit with a hat on right and we were watching this we were saying like imagine if you were a hat maker back then you're like this business is never going away look at the audience amen everyone has a hat on it's probably [ __ ] sunny as [ __ ] right oh for sure you know it changed the hat you know what you know put it out of fashion no uh jfk what yeah what he when he came on the scene he was he didn't wear a hat and he looked so great and he had that head of hair really and that changed the fashion

and yeah hats fell out of favor no kidding dr kennedy yeah he was the guy yep they talk about it all the time i love hats i wear hats because i'm bald oh look at that the beautiful hat yeah that hat but look at the the image i mean that's amazing everyone every single person everyone has a hat on and there was etiquette there was rules you took your hat off when you saw a lady you took a hat off when you went into in inside somewhere they all have the same kind of hat too yeah basically all the white hat because they're all outside yeah i guess so and this was a famously uh hot day it looks it yeah pretty crazy pretty crazy i think this is the article about the native american team that rev revolutionized football oh wow yeah it didn't there wasn't even a lot of forward passing back then i remember this i think it's the coach carlisle indian squad 79 right and that had to do with popcorn or two that's a big guy in uh football it's a whole long thing but what does it have to do with uh the military there was a different story yeah so then that's the other part of where i thought like you're maybe mixing two things up there's like a history of just the strategy of football as like an army navy it's a big thing back like they would compete to do like strategies and just have stuff to do in the off off time here listen this pratt knew that nothing could stop the westward expansion of whites and he knew the native american way of life was coming to an end fearing that native americans might actually die out pratt opened up the carlisle school to save them from extinction the idea was to teach native american youth how to survive in this strange new world wow of course platt wasn't interested in preserving their culture after convincing parents to send their children to pennsylvania pratt gave his students haircuts instructed them in english and ordered them to dress as white people after all his motto was kill the indian save the man

wow that's crazy