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the jurgen experience i mean making bad decisions based on what other people think you think what other people think you should do it i think it's pretty common supercomp i mean when we when we started the band there was definitely decisions that we were making based on what we thought other people thought we should do right at one point we got offered you know to put a song in a mayonnaise commercial in the uk we were keep in mind like we might have had a couple hundred dollars in our bank account we were destitute and we didn't like have you know there was no other like lifeline it was like this was our livelihood and we were convinced fully by someone who was working with us as a manager that if we took that money and we had a song in our in that commercial that we would be branded as sellouts and that we would never no longer have a career jesus christ so we didn't and then we've eventually learned to like it was like we were brainwashed we were brainwashed you know because we were making records by ourselves in our basement like on absolutely no budget well this guy this guy lived in like a multi-million dollar house in the like a big major city and he was one telling us what you know i was just like oh yeah yeah but yeah you know is that is that a real dilemma like for when an artist gets an offer to sell a song for something like hot dogs but it's a shitload of money what is what is the thought process that happens it seems like it was a thing when we started it doesn't matter at all anymore it doesn't seem like it so no one cares anymore they shouldn't care when it happens it doesn't make it it's not it doesn't ruin the original song unless you have i think certain songs were ruined by commercials like oh they like make a parody of it i heard it through the grapevine i think was oh that's that's a rough one there's a problem there although i still i love the song still but yeah but you know i think it's true though you do now have to think about the grapes dancing around yeah i don't think about the grapes man
good for you thank you i'm glad you're there well i don't really either i think as long as you're uncomfortable with it but yeah we were definitely convinced multiple times one thing we were told not to do was it was a kate moss jewelry commercial we were told it was like kate moss like dancing around scantily clad and we were told once again like we'd be a sellout for doing that and we didn't or he our manager had passed on it without asking us and i was like what the [ __ ] huh dude i've done a total 180 after you brought up the grapes no i agree yeah i can [ __ ] up a song i guess i didn't think it could i didn't think like selling it to a commercial could and then i thought about the grapes i'm like it's just i think it's it's not so much the commercial as much as that that commercial was omnipresent it was over exposure you know here in the sun hearing the song enough will make it a hit song i think like i'm convinced you can put any song pipe it through every walgreens and it's gonna become a hit how about that really big [ __ ] song absolutely you can see people dancing to the eye definitely in france or somewhere where they don't speak english you know like a big oh do you hear that [ __ ] song well what makes a hit today because of the fact that radio is not the big driver anymore what is the biggest driver of uh record sales or of of streams of like how do people find out about stuff now most i mean there's this uh kind of punk garage rock musician who goes by the name king khan on the barbecue show he actually has the second most tick-tocked song right now which is amazing so i don't know if that but i i don't know i don't think any of those like analytics work anymore to determine what's happening i i don't think anybody really knows
what's going on with someone but how does like say if you're an artist you're talented how did how the [ __ ] does it get out there that's what we've we've wondered i don't know but you know what's interesting to me is how many musicians are selling like they're publishing if like if we're always told like oh yeah record sales are no one's buying records but again you see like these people selling they're publishing for like 150 million 500 million bruce springsteen just sold everything for half a billion dollars um yeah he wants a submarine so he wants that submarine well what's that somewhere there's a lot of inflation he's not getting [ __ ] now he's gonna be up there dressed like tonetta just dancing [ __ ] giant yacht half a billion dollars is a crazy amount of money but i guess you know what is bruce springsteen like in his 60s somewhere right i don't know my friend said he's the only working class hero who wants to be known as the boss that's a good point yeah that's a good point you