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the jurogan experience i remember watching mr jones on uh mtv and uh i i loved that [ __ ] video man and i loved that you dancing in that was it like a living room or something like that yeah yeah i'm like i want to be that free like you seemed so loose you were so in the moment i remember thinking that i was remember talking to a friend of mine that let uh that night after a show i was at a bar i was like you ever seen that mr jones video like when that dude's dancing i go i want to like figure out how to get there [ __ ] i want to be that free you know it's a weird thing i used to i'm going to take this off for now okay i used to be for me you know life is often very awkward and uncomfortable but not on stage you know like on stage i always felt like well this is the one place on everything i do is fine right so when i started you know making videos at first it was just like this is apps this is easy because all i got to do is do the stuff i'm going to do you know and and there's nothing wrong i can do i can just be as free as i want and that lasted about a year and a half maybe two years something out like getting really famous out of nowhere and then you know all the kind of backlash that comes with it i noticed a couple years later i was a lot more self-conscious i'm still on stage i never think about anything when i'm playing it nothing bothers me but in front of cameras i got really self-conscious in front of cameras after sometime in the middle of our second record i just noticed that i started to suck on not suck on video but definitely not like that mr jones video you just became aware that so many people were watching and criticizing you or like what was it i think it was that you know because at first i just uh well didn't care and i just thought that there's nowhere in the world i'm more comfortable than here so i'm fine and then i think on our second album
when we got a lot of backlash and you get a little too big and everybody you get you annoy the [ __ ] out of people yeah you know especially because in a band because you get a really successful song they're going to play it on the radio every five minutes after a while it's like god who wouldn't get sick of it you know yeah and then you get some backlash after that people say some terrible things and then and then i started thinking about like what do i look like on film then i got really self-conscious you know what's does this look my does this song make my ass look big you know and uh i noticed that i got kind of crappy in just in front of cameras not the rest of the time and not like cameras when i'm on stage at a concert like you play a big festival there's lots of cameras and none bothering me there it's just kind of sometimes on tv and in in filming i got kind of self-conscious and i had never been that way the press stuff like that kind of stuff i think so i mean i don't really know what caused it exactly i would the only reason i would say i think you're right about that is that is that it happened then you know and that was the first time i'd experienced that because you know no one said anything bad about you when they don't know you exist for one and then on our first record we couldn't buy a bad review you know and but by our second record it was we weren't even getting it was like forget him he's [ __ ] this chick so i don't have to forget his music you know and then like he got fat whatever it would be you start you know when you're nationwide but a national publication calls you fat you know it's like [ __ ] i remember getting a review in like in england once and somebody called me ponzi is a fishmonger's cat which i suppose fishmonger's cats cat's eating auntie like is that like chubby bunny i thought it i thought it meant chubby i assume i guess i don't know it just sounded bad being compared to a fishmonger's cat
the fact that fishmonger is involved at all as a word when they're talking about your concert seems like a bad sign you know yeah there's a thing that happens right like when people discover you and they find out about you and you haven't gotten big yet like especially for bands i think where they they they love the fact that they're the first to tell their friends you gotta listen to this band gotta listen this album this is awesome but then when you get really big and other people like it and too many people like it then like oh man they were good in the beginning well i think i think you're i mean i think that music unlike almost everything else it becomes our personal cool you know i mean we literally wear it on our shirts right you know and and it defines who we are we talk about this genre or that genre as being our gang almost and when when you're discovering stuff yeah it's really cool and then when you have to share it with that guy at the water cooler who likes the [ __ ] worst music you know that guy who's been coming in for years and he's just listening to utter [ __ ] yeah and now he loves your band too and you're like i don't want to share this with captain [ __ ] over there you know and uh i've never understood that because why can't people with terrible taste also like great things like great things are great no matter what like everybody loves the godfather right yeah yeah it's like whoever says that that movie sucks nobody but people who like terrible movies still like the godfather you know well i think it's less because they now like it as that you're now as opposed you were in a club without them right and now you're in a club with them and that just sucks because you didn't have to be in a club with them before right it's human nature i mean i get it i i didn't like it when it landed on me but uh yeah i mean i get it well and it happened to you pre-social media yeah you were you guys were just getting reviewed by experts you weren't get [ __ ] on by the general
public yet no i mean but that was kind of that was a good thing for one but i was really into so right well it's for me it had happened when i was kind of already into social media because i remember moving down to la after our first album and that year while i was writing the second record discovering that aol had these uh like message boards so this is 95 say and i realized that aol had these forums and message boards for all the bands and it suddenly occurred to me well i could just go on there and talk to people because when i read it they were worried about were we ever going to make a second record where were we going to [ __ ] did we exist anymore like what all the questions that you wonder about your band between records and it suddenly occurred to me well i could i have the answers to all those questions you know i could just go on there and it took me a little while to convince the people on there that i was me but uh understandably of course but eventually i did and then we sort of started this kind of community there uh you know way before other social media but it occurred to me because the rest of the time you you can't get to your fans except through or you couldn't then except through the radio the dj's and the press so like you don't really get to give anybody your own words they got to be filtered through everybody else right but that aol thing was a chance to just like well like what twitter and everything is now but it occurred to me back then it was really cool and when people started then i got into arguments with our own fans i've always done that it's just like what kind of arguments well you know like i i don't think i'm who they think i am who do you think they think you are um a classic rock guy driving around in a pickup truck like going to drive-in movie theaters because that's this americana
dream vision of like we all sit around you know going to drive-ins and living some dream of a springsteen song that springsteen isn't even any part of you know i would go on there and i'd be like have you guys heard the first justin timberlake album it's amazing it's got like timbaland and the neptunes doing all the songs and i would try and make this thing tell them like you should listen to this it's brilliant music and they just they couldn't grasp the justin timberlake thing because in their mind in sync was the guy at the water cooler right you know and so like i would get these huge advice with them like you guys don't know [ __ ] about music you're just like you're in this little niche rigid you know you like us and i i think that's very smart and intelligent it shows a lot of wisdom but you're limited not getting all these fights with them catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience