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The Joe Rogan Experience what was it like fighting again after all those years Hey listen I did this toad this DMT stuff right and I just I lost that weight and I said I don't know what happened I just don't know what happened I didn't say I'm gonna do this well it's funny because you talked to me on the podcast before the first time you came on and he said I can't even work out yeah because if I work out my ego get excited but I did this toad and they just told I said he gotta do it he said you have to do it the toad told you the DMT told you it's time to fight I lost the weight and it started off with me at first fighting Bob staff at first that's right the K1 event I was there for that I was there live I mean I was gonna fight yeah the ring with him he said Mark was a Queensbury rule but listen the time the fight off what royal Jones was supposed to be with Bob Sapp oh really oh no kidding hell yeah I wouldn't have to chase this guy all the way so the next thing you know gotten um Ray Jones got involved in other Fighters Holyfield got involved and then it turned into a fiasco and then the young guy Jake Paul yeah Jake Paul he got involved in and that's how he that's how the birth of Jake Paul became when you get challenged by someone who's a a guy like a Jake Paul does that piss you off is it part part of it that just like my um no it doesn't I don't know I think it's awesome it is awesome you think it's cool that's awesome that's awesome that you handle it that way because like in a way I mean it's it's kind of insulting it's Brave it's bold of him but it's also it's like Jesus Christ there's levels to this world let me let me know what I found out um this good gentleman um he was a mayor in this town in the midwest right and I talked to me for and he was one of those Stern guys he always got to build paid always got your lights on nobody's got everything right and perfect but he didn't have a good personality and he almost lost to a guy that didn't do anything he didn't make either me be [ __ ] on people's tactics method but he hung out with the people he smoked
cigarettes with him he drank with him he ate with him he's going to hang on their porch with him yeah and that's when you learn you can't take yourself too serious right I mean the world will turn on you if you take yourself to the states who the hell am I to take myself too serious made all this money got this reputation and now I'm looking at people's screw facing them down right have a great life how am I gonna be mad at somebody really think about it when my ego is not involved how can I really be mad at somebody that's beautiful that's a beautiful attitude and you're so right because there's so many people that are so concentrating on they're concentrating so much on succeeding and doing great things that was me are you going to win so bad I wanted to be somebody so bad it wasn't even funny yeah and you forget what life is about life is about thank you life is enjoying moments life for the balance in life your legacy is not what you accomplish is what your children say about you at the end of the day they know who you are they know what you're hiding that you don't want no one else to see I'm sure you are a fan of miyamoti Musashi I'm sure coming on the Japanese warrior book of five rings yes it was all about balance that was this whole thing is it like an uh a samurai has to be an artist you have to be able to do calligraphy you have to be able to paint you have to be able to write yes he felt like if you had any imbalance like if you were like too aggressive or too peaceful like any imbalance was dangerous he's like you had to be like perfectly centered so you had to be a person who understood all things yeah that's true to work everything that's true but um everybody can um Express themselves being centered yeah people have to be totally insane to express themselves a totally introverted to express themselves and I don't know why it's like that I think he's talking about it from a point of fighting with swords a self-control yeah I think fighter that our main problem is self-control that's I mean for sure yes yeah and it gets worse as you get more successful and more destructive and more you know conqueror you're the [ __ ] guy in Sports Illustrated you're the [ __ ] man I mean it's just when you're
a guy who's in a position like you were in when you were 20 years old like I've had this conversation with many people like do you understand the kind of self-control it would take to be the baddest man on the planet and you're only 20. it's a crazy position to be in so like imbalance at that point your life was almost impossible like to be like it was a no balance it was strict fighting no grocery strict it's too much distance this it was this if I that was bad oh God [ __ ] I can't make that happening I got spawned do better tomorrow hmm that was bad okay I gotta move my head when I got hit today I got a black guy archived but because it's gonna be mad at me if you see me through this if you see me get hit and it was just everything was on being perfect do you think that that's what it takes to make someone who is as good as you as young as you you have to be completely obsessed type of person and at that point in time I mean I mean to achieve what you achieve so quickly too you know like you met cause when you were like what 13 12 12. so from 12 to 20. I mean that's wild that's a wild 12 to 19 he died when I was 19 but the fact is um that I I um I put so much of myself into buckling my emotions and everything that was magnificent that was great but then when I came to life it was disastrous right imagine being imagine being that God is just so boom always in the person saying hey hey guess what hey baby I love you hey hey what's up hey hey and I'm just that manic type of person with everything yeah yeah [Laughter] oh man