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The Joe Rogan Experience so in the beginning like when I first met you uh today rather when I ran into you oh first thing I was saying I was like are you still on cloud nine like what is this like like you you know it was Matt Sarah and GSP that was like the biggest upset ever in the history of sport right but this is like I think this is their or bigger it might be bigger yeah I mean I that wasn't my era I'm in the new generation yeah this is my era so of course to me it's it's the biggest but it was huge because Amanda was terrifying like everybody was scared of her and you were the one that wasn't scared of her yeah no you can't be you're fighting like I know but it's still it's like it's the way you did it yeah was so wild like while it was that like because you uh were counting me out the whole time no I'm laughing because DC sent me a text and in the video look at your face very I'm ready I'm very ready DC sent me a text and uh it was a video of me and him doing commentary in your fight he goes bro he goes listen to us we're just making weird noises because during the fights like oh screaming like a little girl it was wild yeah it was [ __ ] wild you know when you were standing toe-to-toe with her and smashing her with the jab in the middle of the Octagon we were like gripping each other we were like oh [ __ ] oh [ __ ] it was it you can't describe what that's like to watch because it's like you can't it's hard to believe that it's happening I felt like if you had a chance to beat her it would be in a scramble you would catch her and submit her yeah grapple exchange wear her down and submit her but to see you standing in the middle of octagon and smashing her with a jab it was like it was crazy it was so wild to see it was almost like the world changed yeah like the whole world changed like what is not possible is now possible yes well there's there's two things first is um there's Styles we've already talked about that Styles makes fights but I knew stylistically that I have the perfect uh style of fighting to beat her and because there's for example people I'm not the type to run around the ring the whole time and do the point sparring thing and go to the decision it's like one of us is coming out of here and
that's it that's just the way that my fighting style is I'm the type where it's like if there's a big puncher the only way to meet that is meet fire with fire and I have to stand in the pocket so I'm not the type of person to run away in the fight I'm the type of person to meet that fire head on right and match it with my own fire and I knew that that was how I was going to win and so that's pretty much all I did is just game plan that specific type of you're gonna be in the pocket you're going to have to meet this fire and you absolutely cannot shy away from it well you said it leading up to the fight that you're gonna drown her yeah I mean I've been calling for this fight for five years everyone's like this girl's talking all this crap you know she's this and she's that and getting upset at me like but I've been calling for this fight since I won uh katzingano at UFC 200. she beat Misha that night I beat cat cat had just recently beat her and in the press conference Amanda's saying uh that I'm next and then Rhonda got to cut the line and you know Rhonda had just got knocked out by Holly Holm and instead of her you know having to fight somebody else she got an immediate title shot and she got to cut the line and I was like that was my fight she's the champ said that I was next and so Rhonda came in she got knocked out and then I you know I got put to the back of the line again but I was constantly saying even when Rhonda was champ and I won The Ultimate Fighter I kept saying I want to fight Rhonda I want to fight Ronda and they wouldn't they wouldn't give me that fight but the fact that she knocked out Rhonda helped your fight it really did when you finally got her yeah because she's a legend by then true because before then she was super dangerous everybody was very aware that Amanda was like super [ __ ] dangerous yeah and a vicious knockout artist but being Rhonda the way she did put her on the world map right when she knocked around in 48 seconds everybody's like holy [ __ ] right you know and your your fight with her was bigger because of all the delays like it because she achieved this goat status six years I think yeah she's been unbeaten just knocking knocking people out for like the last six years so the fact that she knocked out cyborg like that too incredible
right and then you just stood right in the [ __ ] pocket yeah I know and that's great is if I can get people emotionally invested in me whether it's in my successes or in my losses whatever it is as long as you're watching and as long as you're you know gripping your seat at the end of your seat and freaking out I want to invoke that emotion in people and that's why I love fighting I think is because you know whether you're invested in the loss of the success you're you're watching and you're like feeling some type of way and your heart's you know going through your throat and and to get that reaction from people and to see the you know um outpour of people reaching out to me and how I made them feel it was like it almost made me feel guilty in a sense I'm like really yeah my dad lost 15 pounds like this guy's throwing up you know people are like putting you know that this guy's like putting um you know pissed off that they lost all this money you know and then there's people that are like super happy but like the emotions of like people close to me is seeing how much I put them through I'm like I'm sorry I did that to you guys you know like it makes me feel bad you know I'm like oh man I'm really putting these people through the ringer like I feel I feel guilty you know that's hilarious well listen they're all invested now yeah you know after that fight everybody's invested yeah that was one of the best fights I've ever seen thank you in terms of like like what do you want out of a fight you want to you you want to be completely immersed in the world goes away all you're thinking about is what's happening right in front of you and because of your effort because of what you accomplished that night you changed the way people think about what's possible and not possible that's everything we want from a fight everything you were the underdog you came in you were counted out by so many people you fought the greatest of all time and you [ __ ] her up yeah and the way you did it like the whole world everybody that watched that was like holy [ __ ] the world is a different place now yeah it just goes to show you how strong the mind is and how you know it's going to sound corny but my mom always used to tell me you can do anything you set your mind to what is next do you
think a rematch is next absolutely there's still naysayers out there there's still people that think it was a fluke there's still people that are harassing me there's still people that are like being like she's gonna kill you you know they're like 10 seconds in your day that you know and so I I just I would love nothing more than to to put the naysayers to bed for one last time oh yeah yeah now have you guys started discussing when and if that can happen yes um and you know in my mind in a perfect world July 4th yeah July 4th okay yes yes let's do it yes yes I totally would love to find Vegas biggest card um in my mind uh I would always want I've always wanted to anyway since I was on The Ultimate Fighter I would love to coach The Ultimate Fighter I just you know the last time that we were supposed to coach before this fight she she decided not to do it and and so I'm just trying to coax her into doing it you know like come on let's coach shieldsman fighter and then we'll fight in july it'll be perfect that would be great yeah so that in a perfect world that's how it would be for me but I would anticipate sometime in the summer for the rematch The Ultimate Fighter what kind of a commitment is that it's like a six-week commitment yeah something like that it's it is like a six-week commitment so you just live in Vegas for six weeks yeah bring your kids good yep trading there and then Coach people yeah now um that is always like traditionally been a way that people have been able to like get rivalries Really Cooking yeah because then you're next to each other all the time for six weeks it just bubbles up yeah what do you think that's going to be like being around her for six weeks you know it against her personally I think that she's great you know um and if I were to be on the show I can pretty much guarantee you I'm not going to be pulling any shenanigans if she pulled the shenanigans then it's on you know what I mean but like I'm not out to you know be vicious or malicious or anything like that um but again like I said like if I get pushed in that direction that's a different story but yeah it's I've seen Pat like I think the Conor McGregor won where he was like poking at Uriah it's
just hilarious epic like well how about when Rhonda was on with Misha she uh beat her in a competition gives it a fingers it's so angry oh yeah and I was right there next to her when they were at the Red Rock and Misha's like she's like you can't even throw punches and Ron is like she stormed off so angry she went and got admin and they came back and like I thought they were gonna throw down right then and there literally like it was it was awkward well you get to see sides of people's personality when you see them on these exchanges with each other right remember Rashad Evans and Rampage yes and like you a [ __ ] treat me like a [ __ ] you're a [ __ ] treat me like a [ __ ] like face to face with each other but like several seconds yes saying that yeah or even like vonderley and Chelsea oh That's a classic yeah they straight up spot yeah that's a classic I I would hope like you know that that wouldn't be the case you know like let's be adults about this but then it that's the flip side it's like we're trying to sell the fight right we're trying to make people invested and make sure that they watch the fight so it's like how can it be you know this Epic season of The Ultimate Fighter without that kind of chaos but it's like Amanda's not that kind of person and I'm not either yeah I don't think it has to be that way look the fight is gonna be giant no matter what right when you guys have a rematch holy [ __ ] God it better be in North America the other thing that was interesting about that fight was her last two fights before that Megan Anderson and Cyborg what was it Megan answering the Cyber was that were they back to back I think so in the 45 Division yeah yeah so both of our fights were at 45 like she hadn't defended 35 in quite a while right two years yeah so the making that extra 10 pounds it's probably a big deal like she looked very lean at the weigh-ins like leaner than you ever see her before lean and she showed up all half naked and she was ready to go she was in the best shape of her life it looked like she looked ripped she looks yeah she actually looked ripped but you know oftentimes when people haven't cut weight yeah and then they have to yeah you know that you see like uh there's a difference in like where your body bounces back from that yeah well her focus in her Camp was two
fights I gotta make weight and then I gotta worry about Juliana my focus was all I have to do is worry about Amanda that's it that was my only fight that was my whole Focus her sole focus is I gotta be miserable for the next three months because I got to make weight and make sure that I'm you know up to par and me I've been grinding the whole time so I was like all I gotta focus on is just her and everybody was aware of the Kayla fight everybody was aware that Kayla was in the audience and they were trying to set that fight up and how dare they right because uh Kayla is like talking about how she's training partners with Amanda and how she learns so much from Amanda and how Amazing Amanda is as a training partner and how you know she has just learned so much from the champ and so I'm so confused because you want Amanda to win so that you can fight your friend well they just want to get paid yeah well she's getting paid Millet she's getting paid more than I am at the uh making the millions over there at the pfl I think the idea was that and I'm just guessing that Amanda you know when this worldwide recognition is the greatest woman fighter of all time and then you get if she beat you then you get this giant super fight with this Olympic Judo medalist who seems like you know when you look at Kayla she seems like a threat like you go okay well Amanda's is like super strong like really good Grappler knockout puncher Kayla is such an elite judoka she's so good and she's so [ __ ] strong you you think oh like that could be a giant super fight yeah and I think they probably thought if she came over to the UFC they would have like the biggest female fight of all time yeah well I really messed that up good who needs friends with who needs enemies with friends like these you know especially with Kayla and Amanda being like like training partners and like hugging each other and and now they're going to fight each other like come on it's ridiculous but if Kayla wants to come over to the UFC and make weight let's let pack your lunch 35 you mean 35 45 whatever you guys want to do yeah at 45. yeah I mean all I can say like we already established if it don't make money it don't make sense and what's the job of a fighter especially with the window being
this small and your opportunity being this small I got to jump through a window this little yeah my job is to make as much money as possible right so pay me I'll fight whoever you I'll fight Fedor pay me just pay me I hear you you know I feel like I'm not asking for too much especially now that I'm a champion I've been saving my silver bullets this entire time and now that I got it it's like I want to get paid is that too much to ask I mean as a professional yeah don't you feel like you shouldn't of course there's flip side no one's holding a gun up to your head no one's making you fight no but I'm a professional yeah you know and I'm at the the height of my game I'm the Champion I'm at the top of my league you know pay me also you have a child you have a future you have to you know you have a window of opportunity with fighting that doesn't last very long I mean it's one of the smallest Windows of opportunity for an elite professional athlete I gotta hold on to this little chunk of money that I have for the rest of my life you know it's like what do you I feel like I'm not asking for too much you know what I mean I just want what's fair I think if you beat Amanda again excuse me when yes at 35 and then you fight her for the 45 pound title yes that would be crazy that would be like bullying yeah well somebody suggested well what if she uh doesn't decide to take the fight with you and decides to take an easier fight at 45 and retires off into the sunset like she can't she can't do that she would look like the biggest coward on Earth um sometimes people just get worn out by the pressure too though that's a that's a factor how hard is it to go do your road work when you're waking up in silk pajamas every morning it's Marvin Hagler you know he's another guy walked away in his prime yeah good for Marvin good for Marvin but I mean it's got to be difficult you're sitting on 10 mil in the bank it's it's the motivation is just not there