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the jurgen experience so she tells her story about getting sent home and you know eventually getting the aclu to represent her and um you know becoming what she is which is this kind of great this great symbol and also voice for free speech and the students take it in and they say look you know miss tinker you were fighting the good fight right you were fighting the war in vietnam this milo yiannopoulos clown like this ann coulter jokester like this ben shapiro hoaxer they just hurt people why should we allow them to speak and she had a very i think important and pointed response she said listen at my middle school there were kids who had fathers and brothers and uncles they were fighting and some of them dying in southeast asia you don't think they were hurt by this snot-nosed kid wearing this symbol saying that their loved one was risking their life for a lie like you don't think that hurt them like if that's what you think like you're not thinking like of course it hurt them so once that becomes like your you know your barometer your measure of what's gonna be allowed is speech forget mary beth tinker you know um forget anything because words do hurt right that in part was the point right that was the point of the symbol right again i'm not saying that mary beth intended to hurt anybody because i can assure you that she didn't but what i'm saying is it effectively hurt people right because speech especially challenging speech does and the students like take they took this in and they said look you know free speech it's just about who has power and who doesn't you know and the people with power they love to talk about free speech because they've got power and mary beth tinker is like hold on wait a minute i was a 13 year old girl speech was the only power i had
and that's really our point here right is that you know when you start to restrict it in whatever way formally and informally right even with the best of intentions it's people without power ultimately they're going to suffer you know it's people at the bottom they're going to get hurt right because they need speech more than anybody else before the 1960s students had no speech rights that that the courts or the constitution was willing to recognize so you know if a student said something in school that the teacher didn't like they could just send them home you know and it's because of mary beth tinker and the other kids who protested that now it's not like that right and of course we can debate the degree to which this should be allowed and should you be able to wear a confederate flag on your t-shirt or you know an anti-abortion symbol and these are all important things to talk about but even the reason we're talking about them is because mary beth thinker who was 13 who had no power other than her speech stood up for her speech even though yes it hurt people right because speech does that um but at the end of the day you know that's really the message that i want our young people to get right is that the real reason i think we need to hold on to free speech is we live in an unequal society like all societies are and we live in a society with all sorts of unfairness all sorts of injustice like all societies have all right and if you want to do anything about that you got to let everyone talk that's the only way the only way to make anything better to write anything wrong to right any wrong is to maintain our free speech catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify
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