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the Joe Rogan experience. Yeah, I know you're afraid, too. That's You know what? As much as I'm afraid, I'm going to make that walk the day of the day of the the the day of it and I'm going to do it regardless. It sounds more crazy. I would be more afraid of a guy that says I'm like who says like I'm afraid, but you know what? I'm going to still do it and I don't care if I'm afraid. Bring it. I'll do it. Like this sounds crazy to me more than a guy said, "Oh, no, no, no. I'm not afraid." Because this guy is a lie. He's afraid to say that he's afraid. He's a liar. Hey, man. You know what I mean? To me, like personally, that's what it is. Yeah. The posturing and posing, it's it's unnecessary. Exactly. But you are afraid of aliens though, right? Yeah, I'm afraid of a lot of things. Does it true you have like a a path mapped out in your house to get out if the aliens show up? No. No. That's the rumor, man. That's what I heard. I heard you have a plan cuz I know you like to use game plans. So I figured you had an alien. I have I know I know karate and I know jiu-jitsu. So the alien show up I put a triangle choke on him. And I also have a kat I have also a katana a Japanese katana. So if they come I can slice them apart. Wow. Do you keep a sword in your house? That's pretty gangster. It's a it's a it's a collection, you know. It's for me. It's I have two to two. You better not bring any crazy [ __ ] home. A man. It's a sword and crazy [ __ ] I have this hacksaw on the side of my bed that I always forget is there. I always like almost cut my finger off all the time at the middle. Yeah, you should put that in the garage, son. [ __ ] is wrong with you? This big sword/meat cleaver that it's just awesome. So, do you really have a fear of aliens or is this just a [ __ ] rumor? Cuz what didn't you do a countdown show and you did a whole thing talking about how you're being scared of being abducted by aliens? Yeah, I'm scared. I'm I'm scared of a lot of thing, you know. But that's a specific I'll get I'll get into it. I I can't I can't I can't I can't talk about it right now. But yeah, you can talk about it right now. Yeah, it's one day I going to come out and make a big thing about it. But no,
right now Yeah. Have you had an experience with aliens? No, no, no, no, no. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. I don't know. I don't know. You don't know. You might have had an experience with my my managers are going to have a heart attack right now. Listen, this is my brother. I would never do or lead you down any path that's bad for your career. Just as you said that it's good to be afraid. It's also good to be honest about everything. Even [ __ ] that sounds crazy. No, no, no. That's the thing. I'm honest. Like, look, I'm honest. I'm afraid, but I don't have to tell everything on on the public. It's true. You don't. But, but but you know, did you have sex with an alien? Because you're a smart guy. Let me tell you, you're a very smart guy. you know, you know how to dig dig into people's mind and and as much I like you, I like I hate that about you because he put me on the spot right now, but he's a very smart guy. But no, no, I I can't I can't go too deep at the Listen, if I was on an alien spacecraft and I had sex with an alien like I'm assuming you did. I I feel like I would just come out and talk about it. I don't know why you would hold that back. No, but I mean I never Something happened, George. I don't know. It's either it's either I'm crazy or or or uh maybe it really happened. But I I hope that I'm crazy. I don't think you're crazy. I hope I am. I could be pretty crazy. You know, some people that some great mind, you know, they they've been hallucinating stuff. Some people are are how do you say maniacu depressive? Some people are are OCD. Some people are this. Some people are that. And they're still they've been able to achieve great stuff in their life, you know. So maybe I'm crazy. Who knows? I don't know. I hope I'm crazy. Well, are these experiences I can help you in one way. Are these experiences happening at night? I I I am not sure. I have not I'm not sure. Have any of these experiences happen while you've been in a dream state or where you just been dreaming or just asleep and you were woken up? I I am not sure that I had exper I don't know. I don't remember anything. But it was there was nighttime type things. Was it night time when you think you might
have had something happen to you? Uh, I I I can't say something happened to me. I have no proof. I I just don't know what I'm going to tell you about is your brain produces a chemical while you're sleeping. But I'm I'm going to tell you something and I'm going to be honest about it. Sometime I'm I'm looking at the clock and it's like I wake up and I look at the clock right after a and it's like the clock advance like a 4 hour or 2 hours. There's a time zone that I don't remember what happened. It's called falling asleep. I hope so. What do you think? You think you're getting snatched up and taken away for a couple hours? No, I think I'm maybe I fall asleep. That's why I hope. That's why I hope. Um or I can drive. I can drive my car. I can drive my car. And it already happened. I drove I drove my car while you were sleeping. No, no, no. I drove my car in a normal day like going somewhere. Then I look and it's 2 hour pass. I'm like 2 hour I just pass like this like maybe maybe I I didn't see maybe I didn't I didn't I I didn't I maybe I watched the time the wrong time like I watched my clock and I made a mistake myself. Right. Most likely. Right. Yes. Of course. Oh, I hope so. Well, that's very minor stuff. That's very minor stuff. Yeah. Um, but that could be you being tired cuz you push yourself and a lot of stress. It's exactly that's exactly what I hope so. It's exactly what I hope so. But you don't have any memories of great dudes putting fingers up your butt. No, I don't. None of that. I've had it, Joe, where you're driving down the street like on the highway and you're just like kind of dazed out and you're like, "Wait, how long I've been I've I've been dazed out for like like 20 minutes. What have I been doing for 20 minutes?" You could totally go on autopilot. Yeah. And then like you just realize like almost all of a sudden you're home. But um the the thing about being exhausted and sleep, you know, and having these experiences at night, the there's a chemical your brain makes that's uh one of the most powerful psychedelic drugs known to man. So one of the things they're trying to connect, it's called DMT. One of the things they're trying to connect is um people having near-death experiences and people that have had UFO
alien abduction type experiences and this chemical and that they can introduce this chemical into the human body. And these people have very similar experiences to what they had when they had a UFO encounter or when they had, you know, a white light near-death experience encounter. And it's most likely there's this chemical that's doing this. So when people are having these experiences and they're very realistic and they do believe they're being taken aboard by you know a UFO somewhere they might not be wrong but this is not a UFO encounter UFO it's unidentified flying a jet object this the encounter you talk about that if they've been taking a board this is this is different like it could be a third type encounter there's many ways but this is different yeah but I the you talk about me I I don't have any I don't have any memory of such thing. But the thing I don't like I have like you say sometime I fall I fall asleep then I wake up is the the time pass and I'm like well you know it's like I but that's just cuz you're tired man that's not aliens. Yeah. No no it's but are you worried you like man how maybe it's aliens. Is that what you do? No it's because I I'm I feel like I didn't fall I don't fall asleep and I'm not tired. I'm wide awake awake but I fall asleep like this and it's kind of I mean it's kind of weird. Are these on hard sparring days? No. No, just a normal day. It could happen every day. You should get a GoPro, like a camera, and just record yourself all the time. And then when you ever think that happens, watch it. I mean, those things record for like eight hours at a time, some of them. Yeah. How long has this been going on? Since I'm a kid. Wow. Wow. Wouldn't it be crazy if uh the the aliens like manufactured you to be a mixed martial arts fighter? They're like, "Let's see if we could just turn this. I'm sure if it would have happened, I would have been much better than than than this. Much better than this. You're the [ __ ] champion. What are you talking about? Yeah, but if I would be alien manufacturer, I would be Superman, you know? Well, they just don't want to get ridiculous with it, you know? Has to be real. It would be Yeah, that would be obvious. Like, you can't turn a guy into a goddamn
superhero. Maybe they manufacture Anderson Silva, John Jones, maybe they did. Maybe someone needs to talk to them about their sleep patterns. Maybe they're falling asleep behind the wheel, too, and being sucked aboard a spaceship for repairs. Maybe they they don't want to talk about. Maybe they don't say, but maybe they are. I know. I don't know. I don't I'm just pretending. I think it's funny though that that's maybe one subject that you uh you you have a you had a really hard time talking about that. I do because it's because it sounds crazy. Yes. And and I will talk about it one day. I'm going to talk about my fear, my all that stuff and uh but no now I I don't get deep into this. Yeah, maybe they're just But I promise one day I'll I'll I'll talk about stuff, but it's not what you You promise one day. Yeah, I promise one day. What's that? What is There is no tomorrow. Didn't you see Rocky 3 when Apollo Creed says that to Rocky Balo? Like you said, maybe maybe I'll die one day. Maybe I'll die tomorrow. I hope I touch wood. And people Oh. And I'm like, how did you say that? Was that French? I touch wood nut. Is that what you said? Like I touch the the wood like you don't want it happen, you know? Yeah, man. Just let it go. Just whatever information you got, spill it. No, but I don't know. I'm doing my I'm doing my own research. I'm researching on myself. Like you say, that's the thing that you just told me is very interesting. The chemical that body produc that's that's happy that I meet you today and you tell that about me because it make me make me happy, you know. Yeah. It'll make you think like I think a lot of people think they're going crazy and it's not. It's just your brain makes psychedelic drugs. your brain produces and parts your liver and your lungs. They don't know why this stuff is in the body, but it's it's a super potent psychedelic. Your brain makes it and it happens when you're sleeping. So, if like the speculation is that it happens during REM sleep, I don't think they have the most accurate me way of measuring it, but they know it's in the body and they believe it's the the theory is that it comes out during periods of heavy stress or when your body thinks it's going to die or in REM sleep. that those are the times that you have higher levels of this stuff in
your, you know, neurochemical soup. That's interesting. I It's crazy. Why would your brain Why would your brain produce an incredibly potent psychedelic drug? So, a lot of people that are having these nighttime experiences could be just varying levels of uh this chemical that's uh going around in your brain. But that doesn't mean that these experiences aren't real. We don't know what the [ __ ] sleeping is anyway. I mean, what is sleeping? You shut your eyes. You shut off. If you don't exist in this plane and your consciousness goes somewhere else, like literally you have no memory of a a giant chunk of your day and we have no problem with it and yet we don't connect it to any other realm or the the idea of there being other dimensions. You go into another dimension when you go to sleep, okay? You do. You just shut off. You stop. And for all intents and purposes, you are in another dimension. And if while you're in that other dimension, your brain is being pumped with this psychedelic chemical that when you take it, when you're sober, makes you have these incredible experiences, it only seems to, it just seems like a normal thing to look into. Like people would should be looking into that. Like what what is what is happening when you're sleeping? You're sleep. And everybody's just so used to it. They're like, "No big deal. We just go away. Just go away for eight hours a day." You know, everybody's scared to die and no one's scared to fall asleep. You're just you're shutting off, man. You know, you're going to be back, so you're not worried. But you're shutting off. Whatever that is, you know, is just accepted. If sleeping didn't exist, it would be the craziest [ __ ] thing. If all of a sudden you told people that they had to shut off for 8 hours a night and just completely not be awake. They'd be like, "What are you talking about? I got to shut off?" They'll be like, "Yeah, you're going to shut off for eight hours a night and you're not going to know what's happening. People can touch your balls while you're sleeping. You'll have no way of stopping them. There's a lot of things that can happen. The the truth is, like you said, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know what the [ __ ] that is. I could I could like, you know, like you say, it's not
that I'm afraid to be crazy. It's just I I can say whatever the hell I want and we don't know. Maybe, you know what I mean? We don't We don't know the truth. We have no idea. Yeah. Somebody might be stealing time from you. They might be stealing time. They're like, "This motherfucker's got too much time." I I the truth is I feel like I had experience, but I don't know what it is. So for me to say it's alien or say it's the drug chemical you talk about. I don't know. I can't I can't tell you right now. I don't know what it is. But I did I felt like it could have been an experience or not. Maybe I felt maybe I'm crazy and it's the normal thing that everybody go like maybe I but right now I uh like I don't know it's too I'm making my own research to to find out about that. How are you researching? Well I I research a lot of stuff uh documentaries and things and uh go on the internet. Now it's another thing that you just said to me. I'm going to research that. Maybe I research on the wrong Maybe I research things that people have tried because that lap lapse of time that you don't remember. They've been some people been hypnotized and they had a bad uh bad uh you know what I mean. And I don't want to be inaptized. Well, that's very controversial. you know, the what's happening during hypnosis, hypnotic regression. It's very controversial because there's a lot of people that believe that you can introduce fake memories into a person while they're unconscious and then you could, you know, you you you could steer the events in one way or another and introduce false memories. It's not it's not very it's not very reliable, I don't think. So, that's one of the big things about these people that have these crazy stories from hypnotic regression, like what the [ __ ] is really going on, you know? You don't know. A lot of times people that are in therapy in the first place are a little wound up. Of course. So it's that those are the type of people that you're you're dealing with, you're hypnotizing them and then you're finding out about these nutty experiences with aliens. Who knows what the [ __ ] you're really I'm going to tell you is like Socrates used to say, you take a fish in the water, okay? And the fish is lives in in in his environment. Let's say a fisherman, he grab a fish in
the water. He pulls it off the water. Look at him. look, make the fish look around and drop the fish back in the water. The fish after he's gonna go back to his friend and he's gonna tell the other fish, "Man, I been pulled out of the water and and and it was the people were breathing air. It was another environment. I saw a human being pulled p you know like a man grabbing me. I saw trees. I saw a bird in the sky. I saw a like a like a son. I'm like I see a different thing in different universe." And then he put me back. the other fish will think he's completely insane, you know, and it's normal. So maybe in a way we're all like fish and and maybe there is something like you you said like when you sleep another universe or another well or something and we don't know and we're right next to it but we don't know and if uh that's why I'm doing research. I want to see, you know, I want to grow as a human being, find what what's the truth, even though I probably will never find out the truth. Uh, but I want to get closer closer and find my own research, see what what's happening, you know, and we're all in the same uh pattern, you know, [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] You ready to record? It's recording. Oh, it is already. Yeah. What the [ __ ] son?