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we are we are endorsing it because it is in fact awesome enjoy the podcast ladies and gentlemen and uh there are several more to come how many more we got left few five six five or six left of these uh sci-fi podcasts so with that said without further Ado ladies and gentlemen enjoy the podcast podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all [Music] [Applause] [Music] day um yeah I it it certainly is possible when you look at the fossil record and you look at this uh homo florensis this Hobbit man from Indonesia when you look at the stories of this thing called the arang pendek which is another um supposed small hobbit-like furry creature that's running around and then you hear the stories about these gigantopithecus creatures that used to exist as recently as 100,000 years ago yes you you start going okay well there seems to have been a lot of different kinds of primates then of course is that Russian uh ancestor of human beings that's found really recently that 41,000 years ago was a completely different type of human was not an neeral was not a homo sapian it was something totally different yeah and that's 40,000 years ago so you're it seems like as scientists accumulate more and more evidence they're finding that there was a broad variety of primates that branched off in a bunch of different chains and it very well could have been that there's more than one intelligent one that it wasn't just human beings it wasn't just human beings and the anals it wasn't just human beings and the anals and this new one that they discovered there might have been many more the problem with fossils is it's really hard to leave a fossil when something dies they just it just rots it gets absorbed by the Earth bacteria eats it animals eat it that's what happens to most of us when we die when you find a fossil it's because cuz something fell into mud or got caught in a a lava field or this there has to be something really weird that happens to ice Amber yes it's very rare for something to last on this planet very long after it dies yeah so our view of like what used to exist is so weird because it's it's based on such

a small amount of data really kind of incredible when you stop and think about what they have discovered used to exist especially in regards to dinosaurs and all the different animals that have been extinct for millions and millions of years based on just this one way of acquiring the the you know evidence of their body a fossil yeah it's amazing and that they can reconstruct what they looked like with some accuracy it is fascinating man and all of this stuff has shown me how I'm a lazy skeptic like you know how there's people who just believe anything well there's also the opposite of that which is people who just disbelieve anything they don't look into well why why am I a skeptic why don't I believe this this is the thing with people who roll their eyes at Bigfoot and by the way after going squatching with you I've gotten a lot of eye rolls when I tell people yeah maybe there's a Bigfoot but in Silver Lake yeah in Silver Lake all you get is eye rolls it's like seizures if you tell someone you believe in Bigfoot it's like watching someone on ecstasy their eyes go so far back into their head but I've the thing I've realized is that a lot of people will instantly say I don't believe in that and you say well why don't you believe in that and they'll say well because it doesn't exist and you say well why what's your evidence that it doesn't exist and they don't know they have no evidence either way so I think that's an interesting thing that I've discovered in myself which is that I'm an automatic skeptic when you would talk about Bigfoot in earlier podcast or just on the phone with me in my mind I'm like this is horse deep deep kneed deep horseshit with no reason to believe no reason to say that no reason having not investigated it at all having not even done a web search on it like really just not even thinking about it and now I think well you know what I think that there is I think that it takes something a little bit more than fantasy to drive an anthropologist or a scientist or someone who only has their career to ruin out in the forest to hunt for a mystical monkey thing I think that there needs to there's some evidence out there that would make a person risk his entire

career uh to come out publicly saying that he believes in Bigfoot yeah well this homo florensis the The Hobbit man of Indonesia just stop and think about that that that was in 2005 was when they discovered these things just stop and think about if if someone said did you know before that did you know that 13,000 years ago there was a type of human a really tiny one that was hairy and sneaky and maybe stole human babies and made its own stone tools but didn't grow any higher than 3 feet tall get out of here this ain't Lord of the Rings like you're making things up yeah go roll some DND D dice nerd you dork dork but was real that was a real animal they know for a fact this is a Bonafide real animal buried its dead lived in tribes made stone tools three feet what is that is that like that um well it's my penis times three three feet Yes three feet tall it a tiny tiny little guy um little little little creature and there's also we were giants think about that to this three-foot creature it lived in a Land of giants where people would go lumbering through its Forest this is a real thing this is people listening to this right now should just Google search this to know that tiny little hobbit men once wandered the Earth this existed yes it really did and very recent discovery less than a decade some people say they still exist yes that's the other thing that there's uh there's reports of them those islands there's there's so many islands in and around that area and there are reports that these things have been discovered on these islands by people that have explored and that the the local say they've seen them and there's like again the orang pendek which is another tiny little hairy man that has been reported being seen by people for many many years so it's it's it's possible if you think of that the the the size of them and then us and then think of a Bigfoot and then think of an elephant I mean there's a lot of big things and there's a lot of little things on this planet and just because we haven't physically laid eyes on a Bigfoot we physically haven't seen a Sasquatch we don't have a real good photo or a video of it doesn't mean it's not real doesn't mean it's not real and just because many of the people who

believe in Bigfoot are several cards short of a full deck doesn't mean it doesn't exist just cuz a crazy person says it's real does not mean that it's not real sure I mean how many crazy people were talking about this Hobbit man and I'm sure I'm sure a lot of people in that area were saying there was a small man a tiny little furry man bow and arrow you like get out of here a little man stole my baby yeah ridiculous right nobody would ever possibly believe that no what what I thought was interesting about the the the squatching first of all was that the guys who do it they I mean they take it really seriously Steve and John they set up camera traps they set up recording devices they they use thermal imaging they they really take it seriously and if one day out of all this searching if one day they actually do stumble upon one of these things what a glorious moment it will be for them it'll be the Glorious moment for me I'll go out in the street and scream enjoy if one of those guys finds Bigfoot and I would really hope it would be those guys even more than us I know and and that it sounds like I'm being selfless but we don't deserve it no in compared to the amount of time that those guys are putting in they have full-time jobs and yet they have vans that are set up for squatching with solar panels on them and they mean they have this all these different pieces of Technology camera traps and time lapse photography things and audio recorders I mean they really you know they're they're really trying they're dedicated and we need people like that look you're not going to get the most sane people going out into the woods to look for bigfoot that's until some evidence and then it'll be swarmed with real scientists but yeah if something happens and they actually get some concrete evidence where people are like oh my God it's we're dealing with a real animal then you're going to have teams of real scientists that are in the woods yeah and those guys will get arrested you think so oh yeah you know what they'll get in the way of the thing they'll quarantine the whole area and those guys will get hauled off but I will say this you know whether or not there's a Bigfoot if you want to turn a boring camping trip into a fun camping

trip just go out into the woods and pretend that you're looking for bigfoot it's it's the Renaissance Fair of camping it's like go out there just believe in the possibility that there could be a Bigfoot and start walking through the forest smoke some powerful Rogan weed we probably can't talk about that but if you go I think that there is I think that squatching is the Renaissance Fair of camping it's an imaginary way that you can turn a boring camping trip into a thing that has the potential to transform human history forever and conversely if you're ghost squatching and you're unsuccessful at the very least you went camping you went camping you can't lose you went camping and I remember when I was a kid like when my parents would drag me out in the forest to go camping I'd rather eat cide I wanted to sit in front of the TV watch TV be inside I didn't want to go out into the nature I didn't realize how pretty nature was until I'd take an asset but when if my parents had told me we're going to look for bigfoot that would have gotten me out of the house in a second it's a great way to go hiking that's the bottom line squatching turns nature into a fun house and all the wood knocking and all the uh the different howls that they do that sort of like makes it like a fun game the gifting stump the gifting stump and also the other thing about those two that it showed me is how easy it is to start a religion how easy it is to take a being that you really have no evidence for and begin to find evidence for it in things that naturally occur in nature if you can't find a Bigfoot if you can't find real evidence of Bigfoot you know what you can do you can attribute a feather in the path to Bigfoot having left something there if you can't find Bigfoot you know what you can do you can say Ravens are being sent by Bigfoot to watch you in the forest there's so many things that happen naturally the sound of birds the sound of something falling out of a tree that sounds like a knock branches that have fallen together in some certain way I hear it all right now yeah it's it's easy and that's the exact same thing that religious people do with God they've got this nonex istant being that they have no evidence for a volcano explodes God is angry the rain doesn't

come that's God the rain comes we've been blessed by God you know what one of the Squatch Hunters told me what this is ver essentially verbatim he said I was out near this blackberry bush and I started hearing this bullfrog and I was like what is a bullfrog doing near a blackberry bush and I thought about it later I you know what but I bet that was a Sasquatch exactly exactly a bullfrog he said it to my face yeah like like not like he was testing me you know he wasn't he wasn't being silly he wasn't pranking me he wasn't seeing how far he could take it he actually said it to my face that's amazing and and it's incredible when you realize that priests are squatching for God isn't that amazing they are squatching for God and there's even less evidence oh yeah less evidence for God than there is for bigfoot at least they have like gigantopithecus bones if they had God's big toe in a factory somewhere or in a in a museum somewhere in the Vatican a giant mystical toenail a giant God big toe and God for sure there was a God that lived as recently as 100,000 years ago yeah wow Bigfoot is more realistic religion yeah they should be building Cathedrals to Bigfoot I'd go to that church i' go to the Church of the Squatch in a second yeah it's all just wood knocking and [Music] Howling there was one thing the Bobcat gowe film got right the hls oh yeah they're pretty badass yeah no that was really cool man and the the I don't want to give away the ending but that was really cool man that last little part was pretty bad ass I had to press pause a few times but that was so cool I love the fact that Bobcat Goldwin is such a a Bigfoot nut look that's that's another interesting thing about Bigfoot man it is a black hole it's a slippery slope Bigfoot has gravity because once you open yourself up to the small potentiality of Bigfoot you'll find your mind wandering there at weird parts of the day just like and it's also like gambling where you go to a slot machine and you think man one more quarter could do it I know I'm down 1,000 bucks but one more quarter and I could hit the jackpot this next Squad trip look I know I'm getting divorced

and I know I'm in debt but this's one last squatching trip I'm going to I'm going to I'm I'm going to sell some stocks and I'm going to go out there and I'm going to just put it all on the line a two we squashing trip I'm going to get to the bottom of this change the world and also man I'll tell you there is uh what's it called there's animistic religions that believe that a spirit exists in every living thing so trees have their own Spirit leaves have their own spirit this is like a a very old way of looking at nature is to see the thing as a living being instead of just biology happening to see it as one giant non-differentiated living being and so there's always been embodiments of the forest if you look at mythology you have pan you have the Jack in the Jack of the woods which is this being that lives out in the forest and is an embodiment of nature well maybe that's what Bigfoot is maybe there's something built into the human psyche that we when we get out in nature we project something out into the wood some human personification of the wildness of life of the wildness of nature something that maybe we lost a long time ago and that's what Bigfoot is it's just this thing that human beings long for that reminds us of the time when we did used to live in the forest we used to be Bigfoot that's what's wild about it we used to be this thing existing in nature depending on foraging and finding fish in the streams that was us so maybe that's what people see when they're looking for bigfoot they see what we used to be that's a great point because when you're out there in the woods like the Pacific Northwest it's so just Lush and Rich and filled with Wildlife you start thinking could I exist out here if I was separate from society and civilization and grocery stores and Automobiles and gas stations could I keep my body alive out here and I'm not sure if I could you know i' I've watched that show Survivor Man where he goes out into the woods and that guy is an expert survivalist and he scratches by for five or six days before they eventually rescue him Y and if if it wasn't for those rescue people eventually he would starve to death and he's an expert survivalist yeah just and he's got tools he's got like a pocket knife usually or something that he can find and and put together if you're by

yourself naked like Bigfoot well or or think about your French Bulldog imagine taking your French Bulldog and dropping your French Bulldog off in the middle of the Adera how long would that French Bulldog survive without its wet food and its chew toys maybe maybe two hours before that thing gets sucked up like a sandwich at a carnival that thing would be dead in a second and that used to be a wolf if you trace that Genie that Gene line of the French Bulldog all the way back you get a wild wolf a thing that can exist just fine out in nature is just fine out there in the same way that's what we are we made a tradeoff you know we lost our fur we lost the having tough feet and tough hands and being able to climb trees that's the big trade-off so that we can sit and play Xbox and enjoy air conditioning we lost it true you know but we used to be that we used to be Bigfoot and I think there's a thing inside everybody that longs for that time if you trace Bigfoot if you trace like the early Omid and you go all the way forward to some fat kid on Prozac sitting on the couch playing Call of Duty yeah that that's the same as a French Bulldog yeah if you could show a wolf this is what you're going to become some that can barely breathe that breathe it's so farts all the time lies on its belly and just farts it's just a it's a walking whoopy cushion it just farts and can't breathe used to be a wolf roaming the wild yeah now it's not protecting your house it's not doing anything no it's barely able to stay alive barely and you have to feed it and pick it up yeah to pick it up to put it on the couch I want one man I've been looking for I want a Squatch I'd love a little squat a mini Squatch no a big one imagine having a Squatch in your backyard nobody would ever try to break in your house except the Squatch yeah well you just feed him that would be an I would not you would do that by the way you would do that you've got like a pack of deadly pites I remember when you bought all those dogs man going to your house is terrifying and you've got to play it cool like you're not scared of your giant death hounds my dogs are nice I don't have those dogs anymore what what the B didn't they all eat each other

well one of them a few fights went wrong they ate each other well one killed a couple of them K one the other one killed a couple cats man that was Terri terrifying going to your house man that was scary when you got those dogs those Mastiffs those deadly Mastiffs no the Mastiff's sweet he's not wor you don't have to worry about the Mastiff it's the pitbulls that no man you don't have to worry about the pitbulls or the Mastiff but if you get too stoned dogs can tell that you're paranoid easy target yeah it's true man I went to my friend's house recently and I'd eaten a little piece of this chocolate bar I went to Johnny pemberton's house and I was like still stoned and paranoid and I went to his house and I walked in he's got just a puppy and I walk in I'm so paranoid the puppy looks at me he's like starts growling cuz I'm scared as you're sweating you have like a a layer of sweat slime oozing off you like a fish just in your pants in fear of a puppy I've got that southern lawyer armpit sweat oh my oh my it's hot today dear oh dear and then yeah nothing and that that only amplifies the paranoia to have a puppy that hates you cuz now you're like what's it see inside of me it must see sees the darkness it knows it knows I'm a piece of yeah and it starts you your you know your self-critical parts start analyzing your own life knows it man it knows I got to pay my nature knows I suck it knows about my tax problem yeah it nose I got jerked off in a massage p and the dog doesn't like it yeah hates it and dude that is fine with a puppy but when you got get Jed off in a massage power well yeah that's fine the dog sees no problem with that it's a human issue right yeah anybody could pet a dog and jerk it off and they don't they don't care the dog would like it yeah if you can pet a dog he'll let you jerk them off dogs are notorious oh there's entire hold on a second what are you doing man thought I heard do you know what you're doing here do you know what show you're on anything I heard talking we just missed a word this would have been precious man this would have been Prime Time jerking

off dogs B you son of a you ruined everything we're talking about jerking off dogs something unusable completely okay okay um let's just wrap this up the the squatching was very fun the the idea behind it is very interesting and uh I I remain open I give myself a tiny window of possibility maybe a 10% possibility that there's a Sasquatch really alive out there but as far as my hope my hopes and dreams it's 100% my hopes I have 100% Hope and Dreams I mean it's not something that I've abandoned but the reality of the Situation's Bleak I think it's a bleak situation but I don't think it's as Bleak as I thought it was when I first went into it and that's to me very exciting what made you change your mind at all what made you exp the possibilities Meldrum yeah talking to Meldrum because when he started explaining uh the footage that you hate but he started explaining why the thing would walk like that and then when he started explaining how these Footprints are very detailed and then um when I put that together with the information that we found that there are these little people that used to exist and then the thing with this ground ground parrot that just showed up out of the blue and all the new creatures that show up out of the blue from time to time I just realized that it was very prideful of me to just bugle out there's no Bigfoot I realized that for me to say that was as unscientific as it was for me to say that there is a Bigfoot so I live in the mystery live in the mystery Duncan truss live in the mystery I think to wrap it up oh cool perfect aliens aliens there's an alien in the sky above us yeah he's a Mexican without a green card that is weird why don't they fly over I don't know huh why don't Mexicans fly over yeah they don't have planes no but it seems like seems like you could get one as easy as you could get like one of those buses maybe but I think they monitor airspace pretty pretty closely right you know you don't want to get shot out of the sky right by the federales yeah it's weird those tunnels man yeah it's interesting that we call people from other countries aliens too yes you know they're illegal aliens yeah there's outer space aliens and then

there's but everyone who's not like your country neighbor is an alien yeah that's right Canadians are aliens yeah it's so stupid because they're humans yeah like we act as though there's some different being all together that's an old idea you know that if some someone isn't from your country they might not even be human they just look human well that's the idea of calling them aliens they're alien to this area like an alien species that's been dropped into a lake like the snakehead fish that's been devastating these freshwater lakes it's like so hardy and eats everything and destroys everything yeah kind of like what the white people did to North America we're aliens yeah we're the aliens but the American Indians were aliens as well the Native Americans came from Asia yeah and the people in Asia came from Africa and the people in Africa came from monkeys and the monkeys came from single cell organms yeah which came from asteroid that smashed into the Earth so we are aliens Everyone's an alien yeah well if you follow that logic yeah every single living thing is alien because if that's if panspermia that theory of amino acids and the building blocks of life existing in asteroids and then Landing in Earth after they slam into another planet it's really interesting it's like a game of life Leap Frog all throughout the Galaxy all the way back to the big bang you don't even need the meteor smashing I mean the Earth is alien the Earth came from some Interstellar dust that canaled at some point it's it all goes back to some flash of light so billions of miles away billions of miles away so yeah we are aliens now the way that our spaceship Works might be different from the way spaceships work on Star Trek the way our spaceship works is it grows food and it grows people that's our spaceship we the spaceship itself produces the life form but to oh sorry go ahead well to but to look at the wild Insanity of where we came from and then to be like oh no no no there's no aliens couldn't be not nothing out there that's Madness if life emerged from the congealed dust particulates that came from the explosion of stars and the spinning the centrifuge action of this ball-like thing was able to spit eventually to spit pinkies and brownies out of the

thing then God people there are many colors of people but to think that just that if our planet is able to produce life just from spinning really fast around a star to think that this isn't happening in other parts of an infinite universe is madness and then the real mind is the idea that our planet spawns this intelligent creature that's insanely curious and eventually starts playing with nuclear power and then antimatter and then figures out how to make a big bang machine and then one day one of them just goes it I'll press it and he hits a button and Sh Boom the whole universe imp implodes back down into the size of the head of a pin and explodes out again in a totally new Big Bang y every 14 15 billion years or so yeah and this is not that idea that idea is written about in the upanishads and the vadas this is something they write about they say that Brahman it's compared to an inhalation and an exhalation that the universe is a breathing thing and that sometimes the universe expands itself in this infinite outward breath and in that outward breath all created beings form which are a differentiation of this unitive field of consciousness and then there's the in breath where everything comes back in and forms back to that head of the pin that uh science says the Big Bang is of course you know there is new ideas about that the whole head of the pen idea or the condensed super particle that they say created the big bang a lot of people wonder if that's the case or if maybe uh the Big Bang is the effect of one Universe brushing up against the universe and poking into it and creating uh the outrush of matter that is the Big Bang we really don't know yeah that's a fascinating one the idea that there's parallel universes like bubble baths they're like you know little circles in a bubble bath but they're infinite and each one of them is its own self-contained universe and they Collide and they're just millimeters from each other millimeters from the other universe and then they boom they Collide and that's what creates all the energy yeah that's what it is it's just an endless transfer of energy from Universe to Universe yeah that's that's what it is just this giant living cluster of bubbles for our PE brains the idea of the universe itself being semi

infinite or infinite or or or fractal the idea of there being infinite amount of infinite universes it's just it's it's too hard to wrap our heads around the fact that well it all also might be breathing it might be going out expand Ing and then Contracting for Infinity yeah and that thing that you were talking about the the way that we explore the way that we have this desire to understand and to investigate and examine that that's the original impulse it's just that impulse is being channeled through our particular neurology but that impulse is in all living things that desire to experience and to explore and to learn that this is this giant massive bubble Club master of intelligence is God trying to understand what the is happening CU everybody acts like God knows everything everybody just thinks oh if it's God it knows everything why maybe it's just like us only a trillion billion to the trillionth squared uh times more aware and even that much more confused well how about one grer how about when intelligent life eventually reaches a point where it can control all matter and has access to all the knowledge in the universe itself maybe it becomes God and maybe that's what God is in the first place and maybe this coalesence this synergistic thing that's happening right now with humans and technology is because technology is the only way we can act actually become God biologically is that we have to figure out a way to manipulate matter to the point where we take what we call Consciousness and put it into something that can develop infinitely faster than our simple biology can and that that in turn becomes a universal Consciousness and that that is the origins of the universal Consciousness is not just that we share space and that we share this morphic field but in fact that all of our minds will eventually join as one super mind and that superm mind will be the very creator of the universe that has spawned us itself yes and that will be some 14-year-old squid alien playing a super Advanced Xbox jacking off on top of a windmill yeah and That's all folks no man I that that um that idea is really cool this is an idea Alan Watts talks about when he says imagine if you could experience everything like imagine

if you were some kind of Godlike being and anything that you could think you can instantly create anything you wanted to experience you could instantly experience if you wanted to know what it was like to be everything you could feel that if you wanted to know what it was like to be an alien flying through space exploring space you could be that but eventually eventually Alan watt says you would get so bored of being able to do anything you wanted to do that you would be like hm I wonder what it's like to not know that I can do everything I wonder what it's like to think I'm going to die and be completely limited and then that's when you turn into a human being and that's when you get become experience human life we like whoa I'm gonna die I can't do anything man oh God and then when you die or when this event happens where everything unifies and becomes one Consciousness that's when you wake up again you're like wow that was nuts I thought I was going to die I thought I was limited I thought I was an individual I thought I was singular as it turns out I'm everything and the whole cycle starts over again what I found fascinating in researching aliens and and doing this show is the different attitudes about what aliens would be interested in and what aliens wouldn't be interested in like the guy I talked to from he seemed to believe that they wouldn't even care about the fact that we have nuclear power like why would the aliens hover over nuclear power and other people think that that would be the number one thing that they would concentrate on and then then other people think well they they would have access to stop all that stuff they can control all the power and they're essentially waiting for us this is like the most utopian concept they're waiting for us to graduate so uh our society and civilization stops being this fear-mongering warlike culture and we graduate to this next level of spiritual Evolution and join the Galactic Federation that we that we we become worthy and that they're sitting there waiting for us to graduate from high school oh I love that that's really cool man like like they're gardeners you know they're like planetary gardeners and the human species is a form of biomass that

they like to cultivate and sometimes the garden grows sometimes it doesn't grow but it at some point the thing inevitably gets to a place where it's about to Blossom and that's when it's at its most fragile point in time that place where it's about to grow the flowers of the singularity or the flowers of some super advanced technology and when that happens that's the joining of the Galactic Federation that these uh New Age Crystal people talk about I think that's a beautiful idea I I think it's a beautiful idea and I think that I I don't see why not I mean we grow flowers we we cultivate the Earth we breed animals why wouldn't some super advanced intelligence take Delight in turning monkeys into flying teleporting super technological beings and we also have this uh thing where we want results like right away you know we want things to happen right now why don't the aliens land now why don't people get it together right away why do we have to continue our our our primitive ways and A Primitive culture but if you thought about it from the standpoint of an infinite being the the why would the infinite being want to rush things it all the time in the world like why does it need the results right away exactly and isn't there isn't there joy in in the the struggle and isn't isn't there joy in the whole process of becoming this this symbiot this God creature isn't the joy in all of it slowly improving like you don't want to have sex in a a tenth of a second you don't have a tenth of a second sex you want to have sex for a long time so that you can enjoy it you want to feel good you want to hold in your orgasm as long as you can for it to feel good and maybe that's sort of the same idea about the universe creating Consciousness is that the Universe wanted us to slowly over the course of billions of years go from sludge that Wiggles to people that press buttons and rockets fly through the air with nuclear bombs on the end of them that literally splice atoms and Destroy matter instantaneously leaving the area impossible to occupy for hundreds of thousands of years but to the universe what's 100,000 years that's nothing it's a joke nothing and this is in you know in Hinduism they when they talk about the gods that they will say like a day

of Brahman is like you know a million human years like one day for this being is a million billion ion years so a super Advanced being who knows how long the thing survives it's a great way to look at it to it's just interesting how humans tend to ascribe human characteristics to beings that emerge from ostensibly different galaxies or even other dimensions or even the universe itself the limitations of birth and death are applied to the very universe itself and really sort of arbitrarily just because of the fact that they have the signature from The Big Bang that do doesn't mean there's not an infinite number of those that have been going on forever and there's no birth and death it's just that breathing in and breathing out but everybody talks about one day even our son will die yes will it really no it it will create humans man the only way you can make a human being is a star has to explode where we are literally made out of carbon and carbon comes from stars and all the the different matter the the different elements of matter that make up a human being you literally have to have a star that blows up so the idea that our star is going to die no no no no no no our star is going to blow out human seeds yeah there you go exactly our star is going to radically change in the same way that everything radically changes which is why death itself is a silly word you know when people say die really what they mean is the person the being whatever it is has transformed into something completely different than what it was before and that I mean I know there's a biological principle to death they say it's when we stop breathing or that when we stop when we stop breathing you're dead but the reality is when you stop breathing really what's happening is you are uh transforming into energy for all the uh tiny little microbes living inside of your intestines that are gradually going to turn you into soil that's going to going to grow food for other people to eat not not if we have anything to do with it Duncan we're going to falah hiide people to preserve them and then we coat them with a thick skin of makeup it's very lifelike and realistic with a subtle wax-like quality to Grandma's face isn't that hilarious I

was just thinking about that like how funny it is that we put people in coffins which are essentially supposed to be beds so that people can like rot comfortably in some kind of like big underground couch you know how much space could save in graveyards if we had the guts to chop people up and put them into little bags we don't do that well how about put them into the ground and have them do what they're supposed to do in the first place you know why we can't do that why cuz we want to be able to dig them up and charge people with murder yeah exactly man that's right and also if we did that there would be a swarm of goth kids descending on every graveyard just to try to dig a skull out so they didn't have to bother with popping a coffin open but it is weird that we don't like think of the shape of a coffin right we don't put if you wanted to save space in a cemetery then you could dig a hole deep where you could drop the coffin down like they're standing up in it we want them to relax we want them to relax in a nice bed I just saw this ad uh this old vintage ad for um a a type of Vault it's like it's an old it's a drawing of a woman who's standing by a window looking out at the rain and it's like don't you feel comfortable knowing that your loved one is safe from the weather and God it's like a vault that like won't let water in there but that's a that's been going on forever and that's what pyramids are they're just elaborate ridiculous mechanisms to try to preserve the human body sort of they don't really know what the hell pyramids are for mumification process for sure yeah that's that's fascinating Todd you know you're not on camera right I know how dare you um this skin walker Ranch thing we're going to go and we're going to there's there's a place in Utah it's called skin walker Ranch and this place it's legendary in in in the the Bigfoot folk talk the the people that are fascinated with Bigfoot say that this is the spot where there's all these different things being worked on that there's wormholes there and that spaceships are coming from wormholes so I go to their website right I'm thinking it's probably just a regular Ranch everybody's just being nutty yeah it's being

they have a link on the website that says the entities it says classifying creatures it's Skinwalker ranch.org so I'm like okay now you got me what is that so I click on that and it takes me to all the various types of entities that have been reported oh yeah and as simple as the spotlight and Flash drones a pulsating spherical ball of Light which could easily be lightning seems like these are like reasonable sort of either mythical explanations of natural phenomenon or just Legend yeah so as we go further and further though it gets to weird ones like the bulletproof wolf a yeah it says the Dire Wolf like creature is long dirty mangy gray black hair has a proud intimidating and intens likee Presence at this time I am un unsure if it is hostile or friendly my impression was neither more Majestic and to be feared in nature wait a minute is this this is on the internet yeah my impression was neither you're supposed to have a comma dummy if you're going to talk about if you're talking metal root wolves you don't have to use appropriate grammar may travel within the flash drones and manifest from them as seen by two researchers oh as seen by two researchers should be legit a bulletproof wolf that that comes out of a flash drone well two guys saw it Duncan well I mean it sounds like these people are just going around with a microphone and recording people who snorted bass off here's one of them the controllers what sounds like two adult males speaking to one another in an unknown language these two males are typically invisible and usually overhead overheard speaking about 20 ft above one's head they are speaking in a Native American likee dialect by the way that's also where they tribute to Bigfoot yeah it's always like a native am like Native American is the way to go if you want to go spiritual and woo woo and you know you know if you want to you want to talk the spirits of the sky and the space and we are in touch with the spirits of the great Guardians of the universe it's always like a Native American thing but it is funny that they're saying that these beings talk in a dialect which means that they're not talking in their native language when they're hovering above you they're talking in a in a

language you understand well not only that it means that they're so intelligent so Advanced they can get here from other planets but they haven't figured out how to talk without language yet they haven't figured out how to direct communicate mind to mind well I don't think Skinwalker Ranch is all about aliens I think it's just about a lot of paranormal activity that happens and this guy I talked to in Austin Dr Eric Davis used to work there and this guy uh though I would say that he's eccentric he did a few things uh when I went to visit him that made me think oh I don't I don't think that this guy's a c when and what he did specifically was was um he has this laboratory where they're doing all these various experiments this is a guy who's actually trying to create a warp drive who's trying to create a way using vacuum technology to bend space and time that creates kind of like a wave effect that a ship could ride on the crest of somehow uh going faster than the speed of light um so what when we went to visit this guy he did two things that made me think wow I don't know like I don't know if how skeptical I should be about this guy which is that he had us all these experiments running in this laboratory one of them being they're trying to discover a way to do cold fusion you know which is what somehow um creating an infinite energy source which is uh what he calls a disruptive technology would disrupt Human Society if we had an infinite energy source but what he did was he kept pointing to his experiments and saying this isn't working nothing's happening here this cold fusion isn't working and all of his experiments he was like saying we're all getting results from these experiments which to me is the opposite of what all the other CS that we've encountered on the show do people like whoever designed this website you you could probably call this person up and say you saw on Skinwalker Ranch a tap dancing clown they can shoot lightning bolts out of his hands that turn into pineapples and that would show up on the website in four minutes probably probably probably cuz researcher has discovered this in this we should try try that yeah you could get it up there we should see how many we can get on there before the Guy starts catching on it's a giant butt it

rolls through the hills you have to watch it farting in your face it's yeah it's it yeah but but it's farts have a Native American dialect a Native American Quality they smell like Hickory they smell like hickory wood chips um but th this Dr Eric Davis he worked on skin walker Ranch because Skinwalker Ranch is a place that was bought by this eccentric guy named Robert Bigalow who's currently working with NASA he's uh developed some kind of inflatable technology where you can add uh add onto the space station using like essentially like super powerful bouncy houses you know what I mean like you like build using metal in space getting metal into space getting construction material into space or using terrestrial construction methods in space is not only highly inefficient it's incredibly dangerous you have to go to to spend whatever amount of time it would take to actually build things using aluminum or metal it's dangerous so this guy came up with a brilliant idea of having packaged inflatable uh crafts that you can bring into space uh and the material that they're made of is uh much more powerful and can uh take the damage of microm meteorites a lot better than metal according to Dr Eric Davis and so that's what Bigalow that's one of the things he's working on right now in other words he's not just a a c he's actually got satellites floating in space right now that he got up there so he heard about the Skinwalker Ranch heard about all the Paranormal Activity that was happening there and decided that he would buy it send scientists there to study it to find out if he could find any proof of this insane stuff that so many people are reporting and Dr Eric Davis spent time there studying this stuff and he said he told me to to my face that he saw uh orbs floating out there that he saw orbs floating out there that uh he couldn't think of any other explanation for I asked him about the cattle mutilations he said no that's he thinks they think that's people doing that they don't think it's aliens he said that some of the researchers there reported seeing like wormholes opening up and I this guy like I believed him like he he actually gets contracts from the government to work on this stuff and it doesn't serve any purpose to go on a TV show and talk about wormholes opening up

when he said like I these researchers reported some kind of creature emerging from this Wormhole I mean I don't understand what you have to gain as a scientist by saying things that sound like they're coming from the freakout tent at Burning Man it you know there's nothing to gain what do you have to gain if you're actually trying to get trying to get business as a scientist so when I asked him this uh one of the really smart things he said is that as a scientist that's your job you report your observations you have to say what you've seen and sometimes reporting your observations means that people are going to try to discredit you people are going to say you're crazy people are going to uh you're going to lose a lot of faith and um I don't know I believed him there's also the reality to consider that there's a lot of people that tend to lean towards the Fantastic they tend to lean towards fantasy and they want there to be something magic out there and their regular life is boring man their wife doesn't want to have sex with them their dog doesn't care there's nothing going on I me I about sex I mean if the dog the guy is there or not you know what I mean there's like a lot of people that don't have anything exciting that's my point my point is that there's a lot of people in this world that they have no joy there's nothing exciting about their occupation there's nothing exciting about their marriage there's nothing exciting about their neighborhood they they long for something special and I think a lot of that goes back to our hunter gatherer Roots where every day was filled with Peril and excitement and even though there was a lot of loss of life and people didn't last as long it was still a lot of thrill you know people starve to death but you know what sometimes they didn't and you got an elk and everybody ate and they got by the fire and you found mushrooms and everyone took them and there was joy and excitement and it was a real it was a special existence we've in making everything so safe we've kind of like smoothed all the rough spots that could trip you up in this life we've also cut out all the fun you know we've we've cut out all the excitement we've cut out all the worry about getting eaten by a Jaguar the worst thing you have to worry

about is another idiot human slamming in you with their stupid car that's what you have to worry about and eventually we'll figure that out too we'll have some magnetic field around each car so they repel each other like magnets and you get close just bounce off of each other that's on the way I'm I guarantee you that's on the way yeah sure I I mean I think that there are a group of people who just get super board and make up stories kids do it why they make up stories but they lean towards the Fantastic say there's an infinite amount of possibilities to explain any particular scenario they're experiencing they lean towards the most fantastic of those possibilities and then they nurture that and then they also surround themselves with other people who are like-minded and then they develop this sort of hive mind of and they all sit around jerking each other off pretending they're being abducted by aliens oh he's touching my butt he's he's abducting me that's crazy I'm touching your butt I agree man I think you're right I think there are clusters of psychos out there and it's easy to find so many examples of that and I think kids tend to do I can remember when I was a kid going into the house and telling my mom that I'd seen Wonder Woman No Reason Reon to tell her that I hadn't seen Wonder Woman I just like but I started lying to my mom I'm like yeah I saw Wonder Woman uh by how old were you uh 17 17 no no I was young man I was like you know six maybe I don't I don't know I was young but I can remember telling this blatant light to my mom my mom being like are you sure you saw a Wonder Woman and then I started I in my mind I started like Imagining the encounter like to help the lie I could like kind of Imagine Wonder Woman coming up to the plate to the to the swing and like saying hi I could kind of see her standing there and I instead of being like you know you're right Mom I'm lying I just went deeper and deeper into the lie that's the problem with people it happens but I I guess when I hear that someone has taken the time to figure out a way to construct inflatable space habitats and has even managed to get those into orbit and these and and this is a person who has bought a ranch

where other scientists who are are reporting activity when I hear that stuff I it makes me believe it a little bit more than when I hear somebody who's just a crystal gazer yapping about this stuff when I hear that stuff and when I hear at Skinwalker Ranch you can't get in there when I hear that they have really high security and that you know there's reports of like government cars going in there and stuff then to me I start thinking well something must be going on there I don't understand why a guy who's getting million-dollar contracts from NASA suddenly decides to buy a ranch and put a security perimeter fence around it where people can't get into and then become secretive about the stuff that's happening in there why if you're some lying C who just wants people to believe in aliens why wouldn't you just send reports all the time that website you're looking at that's not Bigelow's website that's somebody who thinks he's an expert on Skinwalker Ranch that's not Bigalow that's somebody completely different oh I see what you're saying well just to play Devil's Advocate about Bigalow let's just assume that he's working on top secret spacecrafts that there sure why wouldn't he have high level security well you don't want people wandering up hey man what you welding yeah well you're putting together a stealth bomber right well well it's not just that it's that he bought a ranch that prior to his ownership the people who live there were reporting all this stuff and their cattle were getting like regularly like mutilated mutilated so there's some odds and not only that but he invited you know scientists there to actually study this stuff I will tell you the part that makes me skeptical about it is uh every encounter that Dr Eric Davis reported somehow the cameras didn't work he said that he saw these floating lights and it was filmed on security camera footage I asked him where the footage was he said it's in some Warehouse there and Bigalow doesn't want to release it you know it's the classic thing which is the person can report these experiences but you would think that scientists that were sent to a place to investigate it would have you know the wherewithal to videotape this stuff and he said especially with this Wormhole that he reported where some being

climbed out he said that uh the the energy that gets released from this messes up cameras and of course the moment you start hearing that stuff you slide right back down into the skeptic swamp because it it does seem a little curious that uh they don't have any footage that I know of there might be footage there might be footage from Skinwalker Ranch but I'm not aware of it well it's sort of akin to how they think that Bigfoot can sense camera traps yes and that's where we're getting to with the show unfortunately there it's more of a show on psychology than it is on anything else yeah as time goes on you realize it's it's more about how you sort of interpret what you view in the world than it is about what you're actually seeing but look at the Phoenix Lights look at that what is that man that's some massive craft that went flying over County after County a governor reported seeing it come on man what is that that's not some kid talking about Wonder Woman that's lots and lots of people reporting this encounter okay stop what you said there because there is evidence video evidence of the Phoenix Lights right okay but what is the video evidence it's just these things floating in the sky these red lights floating in the sky it's like very simple nondescript not that spectacular you can watch the Phoenix Lights they've shown it on national news broadcasts it's kind of nothing so all this other stuff is all stuff that really wasn't captured on camera so it all falls into the same category when you go what about the Phoenix Lights the governor saw it everyone you can get all Sensational with it but then when you go okay where is the evidence and you go well they have video and then you watch the video of the Phoenix Lights you go man I mean what is that that ain't let's pull up the thing can you pull it up pull up the video of the Phoenix Lights find the video of the Phoenix Lights let's just look at it because it's stock footage anyone can can look at it we'll pull it up because it's something to behold because uh it's it's it's a huge point of discussion in uh UFO folklore if you if you talk to people about there's Roswell and the Phoenix Lights those are the two big ones yeah but it is amazing when you actually watch the Phoenix Lights how

non-sensational it is how Almost Boring and nothing and IND descript it's just these floating light bulbs well yeah but I mean I think it to me that I mean I don't know it's to me what what who cares to me what but it does seem like it could have been drones could have been a lot of things let's watch it okay this is the actual Phoenix Lights and this is the stuff that people talk about like oh my goodness the UFOs are here well look at what we're actually seeing you're actually seeing some lights floating above Phoenix yes that's kind of interesting but you know it's not that interesting man I mean there's some lights floating above Phoenix but those lights are connected I mean the idea is that those lights are connected to one craft no that's not the idea no they are see cuz you see them there's there's a bunch of them the idea is that there are several different things going on that there's these things floating and there's also this triangular thing that's floating in the air but what you're seeing here is these things that are floating in the sky and a new one keeps lighting up come on man that is weird it is definitely weird but it's not something that human couldn't do if we had drones I mean they keep popping up a new light keeps popping up look man why if somebody's doing that as a hoax why didn't they keep doing it that's something crazy up there man it might not be a hoax it it might be experimenting with the new technology and it wasn't far enough away to be out of the view of the people it might be experimenting with a psychology study to see what would happen if you have these um non-defined lights flying over a major Metropolitan City and in clear view of everyone who lives there what's the reaction how do people how do people react to this what's The Fallout that but I've seen videos of drones going up in the air and they they they Bob those things aren't bobing right but what are they doing they're just sitting there they're sitting there which is even more bizarre I mean yeah like how do you how do you do that imagine the wind up that high with something that big to have stabilizers that make it stay completely immobile floating there in the sky if those were drones they would there would be movement that thing's connected and the size of that thing is tremendous

whatever that thing is is very very big but it's moved up and down those lights have moved up and down it doesn't look to me like they're individually moving it looks like they're all connected to one craft well if you go back to the beginning though the way they are it's not in like one line in fact they're stacked on top of each other a little bit Jamie take it back to the to the very beginning if you would if you look at it very early on when you start to see these lights they're they're not simply they're not simply all along like a a straight line like there one of them was above the other one see like there's two on the right hand side yeah that's the that's that's see see that a bunch of them together there see all that yeah that's a curve maybe maybe not maybe it's like somebody released a cluster of these drones and then they fly out with these lights on them and they stabilize I I think it's look just from my unscientific perspective that is those aren't drone I mean you could look up a video of drones like at night floating and look at what that looks like you should compare it to that because I've seen this video of what drones or balloons or a blimp but drones can take on a million different forms I mean the idea that you know the word drone is like the word drug I mean it could be a it could have a lot of different applications could be a lot of different things well look here's the here's the bottom line it's more likely that that's a terrestrial craft than it's a non-terrestrial craft that's true you can't argue with that it's more likely that that's something that the government created or someone uh doing a hoax but the reports of that thing and the distance that it traveled and the consistency of the shape and the many reports if that's a if that's a hoax it's an elaborate hoax and whoever's doing the hoax could probably make a lot more money selling to the government than freaking out redneck forgive me I don't think everyone in Phoenix Phoenix is not filled with red how dare there you go nuts brain turns to jam it can but they have air conditioning you know they're not Savages yeah but I know that if you have

to walk out to your car if you get sunstroke walking to your car you start slowly your brain fries a little bit um didn't this stuff happen in September was relatively cool what's that didn't this happen in September I don't know man for the sake of what I'm saying it needs to happen in the middle of summer when there's a power shortage look and here's the the the what I'm saying is whatever that is it was novel and special and super bizarre and what you're saying which is I think the the best point is well where where's the footage from Skinwalker Ranch where's the footage where's Bigelow's footage where's footage of weird things happening there well look at this though the Phoenix Lights if you keep watching this those lights just slowly Fade Out which would sort of lend to the theory that these were actually just flares no no that's just one shot man that thing traveled several counties there's videos of that thing all over that's not just from one spot that thing moved okay let's see if you got a uh look for best version of Phoenix light see if you can find another one Jamie I think um I think it's uh it's something to to think about you know the the idea is something to think about the idea that that was some sort of extraterrestrial spacecraft that decided to hover over Phoenix one thing that Eric Davis said which was interesting is that these beings whatever they are they're Gathering intelligence they're trying to they're observing us for some reason they don't feel like necessarily communicating with us they're observing us you know and maybe they up from time to time maybe they screw up and uh something crashes in Roswell or something appears in the night sky and an alien gets fired because he fell asleep at the wheel or whatever they have who knows I'll do you one better maybe their idea is that if you're dealing with an incredibly intelligent human being population that has nuclear power mass communications the the ability to send video and and photographs through the air and and instantaneously arrive across the globe maybe these beings need to be baby maybe you need to slowly show them about UFOs gentle gentle gentle maybe you can't just just horse them right maybe you can't

just like land on the White House La and go come on you're coming with me and start zapping people sure maybe you have to slowly indoctrinate them into the idea of the world of the Extraterrestrial intelligent being coming here yeah and the way to do that is to space it out the way to do that is to have something happen in Roswell New Mexico I mean again if you're talking about some infinitely intelligent being Kur is already talking about extending our life that if you could live to 2045 you know you're probably going to live forever you're going to live to A Thousand Years what if you're dealing with a being that has already accepted that as a reality and it is planting a seed it's slowly planting a seed here on Earth and that allows a spacecraft to crash in a place where it knows there's going to be a military that's going to be really quiet about it sure and that they allow uh these these lights or they choreograph these lights flying over Phoenix and Landing or maybe they know maybe they look at it like contamination you know like when we send the Mars probe up to Mars and we try to keep it we try to like keep it from all Earth microbes to not contaminate Mars maybe they look at showing and showing themselves to us as a form of psychic contamination maybe they don't want maybe they don't even want us to know it all I think it's more likely if there are these beings that they mess up just like any other being does from time to time they just mess up there's mistakes in the program lazy workers yeah why not there's people they and they just do a job of Intergalactic travel yeah they're like shitty Intergalactic Greyhound bus drivers yeah suck and look at the turnaround this is another video of the Phoenix Lights look at how stable those lights are man yeah it is kind of interesting you know the idea of them uh being stable is interesting but if we can split atoms with a bomb that we drop out of a propeller plane I don't think it's that that impossible to create something that can hover in the sky like that and stay stable and a straight line look of Co of course definitely there's no proof that that we don't know where it came from all we know is that a a massive thing that seems to be a

connection of lights on some form of craft appeared over Phoenix and it got caught on video by a lot of different people we do know that yeah so what that thing is who knows aam's razor says it's the government or it's some kind of military test or something like that but you'd think of military test there's plenty of space to do that where people don't see it and here's another Let's uh throw this into the hat if you were an extraterrestrial intelligent being and you were coming here from another planet to observe Earth where would you go well I would want to go to where this dude lives where he's making inflatable bouncy houses for space I want to I want to check out that cat I want to go and and and freak out this dude who got a ones and zeros and is spending all of it on UFO research and space travel research the problem with that is is he bought the ranch from just cattle Farmers so sets up the activity was already happening there before he bought the ranch yeah but how much of that is horse poo how much that the the activity before that is not true well I I don't know man but you know the difference between this and Bigfoot is that we already have much more compelling footage than we had for big like just that is like what is that and then of all the UFO footage let's say that 2% of it is like that that's still pretty compelling because remember in I think it was in China or Japan I think it was China that some giant craft started appearing and I think there's footage of that too this all seemed to be happening at the same time where people said maybe the government's experimenting with some massive uh stealth craft and it's also interesting that as our technology is improving and our ability to record things is improving subsequently also our ability to fake things is improving right and you could you could fake it on a laptop a person on a laptop can make a very convincing video of some Paranormal Activity whether it's a UFO or a ghost or you know name it well and even let's Even If you experience it yourself even if you're standing in Phoenix and you look up and you see this thing go by you're still just dealing with your optic nerve you're still dealing with your limited human senses the truth is

you'll never know you'll never know unless you got lucky enough to get abducted and sucked into one of these ships and sought for yourself there's no way that you can know for certain what these things are we just know that this is phenomena that happens this is one of the things on the website uh that describes on the skin walker Ranch website the portal it says I have seen this firsthand but I I have possibly seen radiation from it made the entire night scenery appear like daytime for 10 seconds very bright flash of Light which illuminated both sky and the ground first of all if you write like that I'm not listening to you okay I have seen this firsthand but I have possibly seen radiation from it that's a sentence yeah what the does that mean dude I have seen this firsthand but I have possibly seen radiation firsthand yeah what the are you saying nothing are you saying I haven't seen this firsthand or I have seen it says I have oh says I have never seen this oh I read it wrong so what where's the picture even if you did read it wrong where's there's no picture there's no picture I'm joking around about the whole thing but because above above that his sentient misted oh boy described by bigo researchers as a neurological electricity this unique entity is completely black in color takes the intangible for these watch loss too many times takes the intangible form of a thick smoke the smoke is described like a disembodied skin of a black electrified energy that possesses an intellect theories hold that this is a pre-transitional embodiment of a not yet formed entity as it emerges from a portal or Flash drone oh excellent Theory I'm sure peer reviewed I'm sure this been peer reviewed the shapeless malleable Mist will eventually mold itself into a local animal or humanoid it really does read like the instruction guide for an Xbox game like these are the things you're going to fight exactly that's a video game I mean come on man it the the smoke is eventually going to mold itself into a local animal it's going to be a squirrel so those squirrels that you see that are just like eating n nut and you go hey Mr squirrel that's an alien man he's spying on you from another planet and sending data to the NSA of outer

space yeah it's that website does not seem very incredible at all what we need to do man is we need to go to Skinwalker Ranch ourselves we need to go and bring some night vision equipment scan the skies talk to the locals see if it's buoy who knows man I mean it might be one of those things where we get there we see a bunch of crazy yes exactly that's the only way you could know at least you never know and at least we'll have the experience that we could talk about and everyone watching can think that we're a Liars too CU that's what would happen that's the funny thing about it is we if we go there and have some kind of experience and report it even if we catch it on camera there's still going to be some like nah we're comedians yeah they believe us they yeah exactly if you're not going to believe a scientist working on a warp drive or somebody who's creating inflatable craft for NASA no one's going to believe two Stoner comics when they report seeing flashing lights dude I swear we saw it by the way we have a new show coming out on sci-fi it's called Joe Rogen questions everything with Duncan trussle and R fear what we're going to do is we're going to try to find Mysteries and look we found one yeah yeah so what no it doesn't mean he not real man Jesus could come climbing out of a hole at Skinwalker Ranch and give us both hand jobs and well you know it's probably just a hippie yeah it's probably just a clever gay hippie I'm Jesus a clever gay hippie that climbs out of squirrel's and he appears as Mist until he forms into Jesus the classic Jesus robes hands outstretched Chan has a in it God do you know how crazy that would be if Jesus came back and was really gay yeah if Jesus came back and just all he wanted to do is give hand jobs yeah but they were amazing you would like you were really skeptical you're like why would I let him jerk me off it's Jesus you're not going to say no if Jesus wants to give you a hand job you're not saying no yeah we'd be like he'd be like listen I'll tell you all about spirituality and Enlightenment but first I want to jerk you off and when your sprays out it turns into babies immediately no it's rainbows oh yeah just sparkling rainbows

smells like flowers as soon as you come you're instantly as gay as Jesus yeah well I mean how do you go back it's hard yeah when he jerks you off and it's way better than sex with a woman you have a choice to make it's not even a choice okay we have maps of Skinwalker ranch.org there's maps of where the most activity is taking place Duncan which is very important you know what the problem with a website like that is once they've been talking about some Mist that can congeal into an animal then everything else becomes invalidated it doesn't it it feels like whatever this website is is not the right place to go to well have you ever seen how big skin walker Ranch is no it's enormous it's uh I believe it's more than 2,000 acres I think we should look at the Wikipedia for Skinwalker Ranch before look at this freaks mushroom website because I think Wikipedia's got a pretty accurate description of what's going on in Skinwalker Ranch do they yeah because I looked it up okay what does Wikipedia say I can't remember I my main understanding of Skinwalker Ranch comes from Dr Eric Davis okay it says according to local Legends Skinwalker Ranch also known as Sherman Ranch is a property located approximately 480 Acres southeast of Boward Utah that is allegedly the site of paranormal and UFO related activities its name is taken from the skin walker of Native American Legend okay let's see what the hell the skin walker is you ever heard of that nope okay let's say that skin walker in some Native American legends a skin walker is a person with the supernatural ability to turn into any animal he or she desires you know what that really is what peyote yeah yeah right that's what that is is there peyote out there hell yeah oh San Pedro cactus son all day okay to be able to transform Legends sometimes requires that the skin walker wears a pelt of the animal though this is not always considered necessary so they get high they see a guy with a fur coat they think it's a bear we're we're out sure solve that one sure thank you you're welcome you're welcome Native Americans you can drop the silliness hey man back when you had no TV and you did have peyote this is the kind of things you believed yes claims about the

ranch first appeared in the Salt Lake City Utah desert Deseret it says deser deser it says Deseret d s e r t news is that correct it is actually correct it's the desert news hm I wonder why they call it that desert Gazette no it's the Deseret News I'm saying it's a conjunction it's a Mormon term oh it's a Mormon term deser a Mormon term silly bunch of voodoo anyway um first appeared claims about the ranch first appeared Salt Lake City Utah Deseret News and later in alternative weekly Las Vegas Mercury as a series of articles by journalist George knp okay George knap is one of those guys that's always involved in like UFO stuff and Fring stuff so all of a sudden I'm going you know he's one of those Area 51 dudes nap and co-author colem ker subsequently authored a book oh a book which they're selling which they describe the ranch being acquired by the National Institute for Discovery Science nids that's Bigalow yes to study anecdotal sightings of UFOs Bigfoot like creatures crop circles glowing orbs and Poltergeist activity reported by its former owners the ranch located in good luck with this one UI n t a h un wi wi County wi win is that what it is how you say it U UA you sure yeah okay Utah okay the ranch located in West Uinta County bordering on the OT Indian Reservation was popularly dubbed the UFO Ranch due to it ostensible 50-year history of odd events said to have taken place there according to these folks they saw or investigated evidence of close to 100 incidents that include Vanishing and mutilated cattle sightings of unidentified flying objects or orbs large animals with piercing yellow eyes that they say were not injured when they were struck by bullets that's the uh the bulletproof wolf Ste wolf and invisible objects emitting destructive magnetic fields among those involved were retired army colonel John B Alexander who characterized the nids effort as an attempt to get hard data using standard scientific approach however the investigators admitted to difficulty obtaining evidence consistent with scientific publication duh yeah but that right there that admittance is what lends them

credibility you the people who don't say stuff like that are the people who you shouldn't trust but when you have signtist saying yeah we couldn't really find the evidence for some reason it lends a little bit more credibility to the to reports especially when one I talked to one of the scientists Dr Eric Davis and he said that he saw something with his own eyes and I really don't see why that guy would have any reason to lie to me well um skeptic James Randy awarded Bigalow a pigasus award for funding purchase of the property for what he turned Med a useless study of a haunted Ranch in Utah James Randy is like such a douche yeah he seems like it he seems like a real party pooper yeah so what a party pooper man the guy wants guy's got a billion dollars wants to buy a UFO Ranch why you want to give him a an award I'm going to give you the pigasus award it's a pigasus is a pig that flies get it tongue and cheek When Pigs Fly and it's awarded by noted skeptic James Randy but shouldn't Randy be happy but when the scientists report that they there's they didn't find any evidence no because his his ego is wrapped up in debunking things and if he can like glow attention to himself by giving out an award yeah if they if UFOs did exist and he found evidence he'd probably like sweep it under the rug nothing to see here yeah let's keep the foundation going yeah right you know I mean obviously probably not probably in his pants and start apologizing yeah probably be like it would be like a psychedelic experience it depends on what kind of alien it was well if it was like some close encounters to the Third Kind type that would be a pretty psychedelic experience if a gigantic if that just hovered over the desert floor and these little tiny dudes with giant heads and big black eyes came out and started talking to us would you get on the ship nope I think that's the funniest thing that guy just gets on board that's so stupid why would you do that and then you're stuck with these little forever you think they even have jokes no jokes that's how they go hunting there's no comedy clubs in space they probably don't have any porn and if they did it's them and the way they is probably with their fingers they probably handshake each

other and fall down spasm and orgasm they're big heads the reason why they have big heads the outside of it is a cushion for when they black out and they shake hands and come they fall and their big heads bounce like a big balloon it's to protect their brains inside it's like a ball bouncing you wouldn't get on his ship no way I like people I'm really happy I'm a person and I like people I don't need to go to space I think it would be cool to see it i' it'd be cool to like look at the but what if you're going to take me like a monkey in a zoo do you think those chimps want to be in the zoo the they do of course they don't and why would they differentiate between the way we treat intelligent animals like dolphins and throw them in a swimming pool why would they decide to treat us so much better than the way we've treated everything that we see right think when a dolphin ends up on a SeaWorld boat it thinks it's the same as being on a UFO in it's super intelligent M will mind it's probably like these are wonderful beings are taking me to paradise the next thing you know they spit it out in some piss soaked pool where they got to do flips for toddlers exactly we you know we we see a mountain lion eat a dog and we shoot that mountain lion we justify murdering this animal because this animal murders if we see us imprisoning dolphins if these aliens see us imprisoning Dolphins why wouldn't they imprison us oh these guys are dicks maybe aliens only should go to SeaWorld in the zoo and just scoop up zookeepers and trainers sco the whole audience sco everybody's guilty all the all the kids clapping their hands is these super intelligent beings that used to be able to swim through an infinite practically infinite sea with their tribe and their family are now like doing embarrassing tricks for fish for it's the worst yeah it is the worst so I I I wouldn't get on board that's how I'm feeling there's no way I wouldn't even think about getting on board if they landed and they like would you like to come with us to another galaxy I like get the out of here I like driving no man you you're in a good marriage so do you think that's what it

was that Richard drus he didn't really wasn't really into his family and like these kids I'm going to get on board it's the ultimate thing cuz he knows he's wanting to get a divorce and he just is thinking do I want to go through divorce proceedings or fly to Alpha centori with these watermelon heads do you know that Steven Spielberg said that if he made that movie today after having children he would do it differently what would he do he wouldn't leave his children and that he wouldn't have had Richard driers get on board the spaceship and that was something that a single man would do and that uh a person who has children wouldn't do and that to me makes all the sense in the world true cuz that's that's I kind of thought that when I watched it I was like man that guy's just leaving his kids like that's kind of fun give me a break man there's a lot of guys who walk into casinos like dyus walked into that UFO yeah they just go wandering in with a smile on their face see you later Bratz I'm going to the slots that's true ding ding ding D D D D ding ding ding ding and really kind of similar that's an alien environment as well I mean where do you ever get that many electronic noises all screaming at you human trap yeah it's like when you lay out traps for rats with cheese that's what it does the tourist every one of them has like a video screen above it with dancing girls and tight dresses yeah and everyone's cheering when the money flows famous TV shows it's very very hypnotic I throw money into the slots when I go to Vegas it grabs my attention yeah and it's somehow calming like it fills up so many of your senses that it really is like a weirdly calming experience to gamble yeah for a lot of folks it's incredible intoxicating too because it goes back to that hunter gatherer thing where we don't have any real risk in our lives we don't have any real immediate risk reward there's a life and death aspect to losing $1,000 you're like oh my God that's a that's a month of my life or that's a week of my life saving you know like if you think about how much money can you save in a month for most folks that are kind of getting by if you could save $1,000 a month that's pretty damn good put away 12 Grand a year for most folks that's pretty good

so you're really losing month of your life when you gamble or possibly gaining a month it's a month that I can be better this month I can buy a car yeah there's a life or death aspect of that that plays upon the same instincts y they're not being fueled by this nerfed out world yeah it's yeah you're right man you're right we long for something yeah it's true but I you know man I I don't after talking to Eric Davis and when you see the footage you might think I'm an idiot you might just decide that the guy is is is uh not not on the beam so to speak but I really uh I don't know I when you have somebody tell you that they've seen lights hovering lights I I I don't know I guess I'm just naive because I just I believed him like it didn't feel like he was lying it felt legitimate to me and it wasn't even look if you're going to lie about a UFO story make it big right you know why just say yeah I saw hovering lights I don't think that those lights could have been uh a hoax I have no way to explain it you know yeah I I just didn't feel like I was being lied to well I mean that's interesting because that's the same feeling that we had when we uh talked to that woman Barbara in the corner store in Washington when she was talking about Sasquatch and her sighting it sounds completely ridiculous if you look at it on paper when that woman was talking to us we're like wow she is believable in a very odd way that I I didn't expect anyone to be believable everybody else told me the UFO stories and I was like oh yeah okay that happened H okay thank you for your story but I was like but she was talking and I was like whoa right you know and I was sober so that's that means a lot yeah man when this Eric Davis in a really accurate precise way described the math that would go into creating a warp drive and explained wormholes and then pointed out all these exper experiments that were getting null results and then told me that he had seen hovering lights it made me believe him I believe him I think he saw something out there I don't think it's improbable that something's out there maybe it's a natural occurrence why not maybe you know certain parts of the Earth have a tendency to uh create very rare phenomena that humans tend to ascribe as being alien who knows maybe it is ball lightning maybe we'll go out

there and just see ball lightning you know what I've never seen ball lightning I'd love to see that that would be very cool if went out there and just got ball lightning on film I would be psyched yeah I don't even know how you would differentiate between that and UFO though we would probably cry UFO first we would definitely cry UFO we're going to say we saw a UFO if a bird flies over probably let's just start lying just like they do we should start doing the convention circuit hooking up with UFO Believers we got to get together in the hotel before and get our story straight and you're like no man I'm tired of being anal probed let's leave that out I don't want to talk about that but listen today we can't do that because in Utah we talked about anal probing there's a little thing called the internet so in Nevada you have to have beenal Pro oh why did you say that now we got to stick to that permanently it's the lore I went with the folk lore you didn't go with the lore you it's embarrassing it's it's it in my mind I did well why' you say you liked it I didn't say I liked it I said I loved it [Music] let's go to Skinwalker Ranch man let's go we're going to go we're going to set up cameras we're going to bring technology we're going to bring our friend Donnie who has drones we're going to try to get the drones to fly over the property Cool only the legal Parts where it's legal to fly over right yeah great man we see something cool cool cuz I've never done anything like that in my life like I've gone out and laid in a yard I've gone out in the forest and looked up in the sky for a few minutes but I've never actively tried to have a UFO sighting well maybe we'll summon it if you believe Dr Steven Greer he thinks you can summon them really mhm how intent oh really focus and intent and they just go hi wow man that must be why he has all that amazing footage of the UFOs so convenient yeah he does hours of it very convincing yeah very convincing that's why he changed the world he's got birds and night vision there's a guy named Ryan Skinner and uh we're going to meet him there he's been studying Skinwalker Ranch and he's going to show us the ins and out and sort of

give us a sense of what other people have seen there how much of it's Hy and what he really believes is going on cool Skinwalker Ranch baby here we come can't wait bring sunscreen does it get hot out there I well no I'm saying for the electromagnetic radiation from the wormholes does sunscreen protect you from that isn't that amazing little thin film of oil and he get zapped by the the the glow around a magnetic field of a flying disc and you're fine who knows man you know there is some small chance that they're going to find this camera equipment scattered everywhere we're just withered up husks our mouths open and in a scream Frozen from some thing that emerged yeah just like cattle mutilations yeah that would be incredible yeah if they had a cattle mutilation but it was a person instead of a cattle and the same things were done there would be a real problem have you ever looked at some of cattle mutilations it's really really freaky stuff and this is regarding the cattle mutilations Eric Davis said that they studied this stuff and they said it seems to be being done by humans again man when when people are CS everything's aliens right when you hear somebody say no that wasn't a that was it seems to be like he said that the cuts were done more by a scalpel than the lasers that people were reporting it seemed to be terrestrial whatever you know it's a weird thing who knows how people are doing it but the fact is this guy was willing to say that's not aliens so that to me lends credibility to his report of having seen aliens out there interesting great stuff do you think that if we got roasted by aliens sci-fi would be happy or sad they'd be happy yeah a an alien roast that'd be amazing not like a not like the friar Club I that's what I was thinking Jeff I was thinking it'd be like like a roast like we sit on The Dan and they would come up and go there's a funny thing about Duncan Trussell a lot of people don't know that under that Fedora there's an inflatable alien head there a crop circle he wants to pretend it's a bald spot it's actually a fairly accurate depiction of all of his favorite crop circles carved into his head all right we're going to go Skinwalker Ranch boom let's see what's happening great what do you think going

to be successful yes or no I think it's I yes I think we're going to see something okay [Music]