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appearing at the Atlanta Improv October 16th 17th and 18 that's how my daughter does punch lines my former my four-year-old rather my former my four-year-old uh daughter she go what kind of tree grows in your hand a palm tree and then she'll hit the same punchline over and over again over and over yeah it's hilarious do it really I want do it with formality and I want enthusiasm appearing at the Atlant improv it's the one and only Brian [ __ ] Ken October 16th 17th and 18th God damn it I have to sneeze no way the kid the kid what dude in the middle of my I'm ah damn it in the middle Brian K Brian the kid I'll be the crowd the kid no way in person I hear he's way better looking and super athletic he's beautiful I hear the way he moves he's beautiful on the inside too there it is I don't mean his butt I mean his soul Jesus adorable October 16th 17th 18th the Atlanta Improv if it's like any of the other improvs it's awesome The Improv is the Premier Comedy Club chain in the country and if you knowwhere near Atlanta if you happen to be in Philadelphia or Washington DC I'm at the Tower Theater on Friday October 7th in Philadelphia and then um at the Warner Theater on Friday on Saturday rather October 18th both of those gigs uh the the October 18th one in Washington DC the Warner Theater in Washington DC both those G are with Ian Edwards so the 17th in Philadelphia oh he's awesome [ __ ] legit highle headliner um so Philadelphia October 17th and then Washington DC October 18th that's for me and Brian Kalen is October 16th 17th and 18th and Brian Ken is back in [ __ ] civilization yes Ladi and gentlemen 5 days in the rain sleeping on a slam pooing outside I'm not sick but I do have something going on with my nose well it's LA Air after all that pristine we got dropped off 1300 ft above sea level in a sea plane took three planes in a sea plane get dropped off on a lake a mountain lake that you could drink out of which we did drink out of we drank out of the lake that's how clean it is yeah it's a it's rain water yeah it's made of rain there's not even any fish in that Lake which is really crazy it's weird right it's a huge Lake and it's there's no rivers that go into it and there's also several
Lakes on Prince of Wales Island I mean maybe there's a couple of fish in there I don't know about but we didn't see any and you it's clear crystal clear water and there's several layers like some of them are up high and other ones are like you know a few hundred feet below it there's another Lake it's really weird also when you're hiking through that terrain you'll cut through the woods and like just cutting through this rainforest and then you just come across this clearing with another little Pond or lake it's like everywhere there's Lakes it gets more rain more rainfall than any other place in America it's 160 in of rainfall apparently renella said it's one of the biggest islands in America next to the Hawaiian island it's bigger it's bigger than the big Hawaii Island Prince of Wales Islands I believe is that's what our friend Matt said crazy that's what Matt said but I believe Rella said it was half the size of the Hawai is I okay let's find out let's find out how big it is Prince of Wales we spent we spent our entire time in basically wet even though you're wearing rain gear and nothing dries out nothing first day my shirt got wet it never dried out yeah it's the fourth largest island after Hawaii Kodiak and it's oneth the size of Ireland slightly larger than the state of Delaware that's crazy and oh by the oh and and and very important didn't see any didn't see any basically you'd be you'd be I mean it's a huge Island Man three planes to get there I'm looking through binoculars how many deer I saw one yeah there was deer two Do's which I couldn't shoot it was we can't according to rello we went there at a bad time which is [ __ ] weird since he was the guy hosting the goddamn Show the deer right that means the deer even the deer were like this sucks let's go to lower land the deer were like it's too rainy and windy here let's let's move down even the deer were like see you yeah the deer went towards the ocean the humans with their Fire Sticks we uh uh we saw very few animals but it was still unbelievably beautiful and it was so clean that's the weirdest thing about the air there was so clean that when we got to La we both were like ew we smelled the air panicked my nose closed up immediately for real remember like at the airport I mean granted we were in
traffic but I I was shocked my sister went what started closing down well we were breathing in this moist clear air drinking clean water look I'll take this over that every [ __ ] day of the week first of all just want to get that out of the way like especially because we didn't have a house we were camping and if you've ever camped in the rain you might be able to pull it off for a day you might be able to pull it off for two days but once you start getting into that fifth day oh God does it suck a fat one you know what was happening to me I became I was becoming like a fetish fetishistic whatever the word is about my gear like how how to keep everything dry and I was even like making my sandwiches secretly in the tent I I would steal away remember when you said you were like were you making sandwiches I was like huh huh yeah you took mayonnaise and bread and meat and went into your went into your tent and I hid and I was like [ __ ] those guys I'm eating a sandwich I'm eating a dry sandwich as [ __ ] I was turning on the whole Camp well I got a little bit better at figuring out how to deal with the rain but at one point you know we were these head lamps so they're like they're like like a mining hat sort of thing on the top of your forehead you have this light and it's attached to a strap and I turned it on I turned my strap on inside the tent and it was like a sea of dew like the inside of the tent like everywhere you look it was like it was raining these microscopic drops of water it was like looking out into a downpour a microscopic drop downpour so there's these tiny little drips everywhere but the inside of the tent was filled with moisture everything your sleeping bag waset my sleeping bag had a Sheen 51 degrees it's really fun to sleep in that oh it's a good time you could take your hand and you rub it over the top of my sleeping bag and your hand would be wet right and the inside was wet like my hands got wet wool is [ __ ] amazing okay if you're wearing cotton out there in this kind of weather you're really [ __ ] but wool is an incredible material when you're wearing Wool Wool somehow or another even if the clothes are wet you retain heat yeah it's the oils in the wool I guess and also wool Wicks away moisture from the body
for whatever reason but does it because I I it must I don't know it must Wick away but not to it dries quickly you ever notice that like apparently it dries quickly but they say cotton kills if you're in wet cold environments and you're hiking or whatever and you wear cotton you will that's how people die yeah because you sweat and then you get wet and then you get freezing cold like we were in a constant state of when you're hiking first of all we're we're following you weren't but I was following Steve the billy goat ranella okay this [ __ ] does this [ __ ] 365 days a year I'm lucky that I'm in good shape and lucky also that I work my legs out like crazy those poor guys like oh I guess you skipped leg day you ever see those guys they like they look like a meatball with two two sticks they'd be [ __ ] terrible hunting bodies yeah my I I work my legs out more than any other part of my body because of kickboxing and I I just I'm always doing squats and I'm always so my legs really didn't get tired even though it was 5 days of pretty intense hiking but my cardio got tested seriously and I was sweating like a [ __ ] pig so you'd get to the top of this first of all I didn't layer it right like when we talked to mating uh one of our friends that we met down there shout out to mating shout out Prince all the L jannis and jannis his brother another shout out to our friend Dean our uh our English friend Dean great [ __ ] guy all the people there Mike shout out to Mike from Austin cool [ __ ] crew just a great do shout out to [ __ ] Dan the beautiful awesome Dan doie everybody is beautiful it's a great cat like we had a [ __ ] legitimately awesome time in one of the most miserable conditions the world we laughed we laugh the whole time other than like freezing cold the is the most miserable cuz you're just drenched all the time yeah you know I guess actually I would take that honestly over like desert conditions like 130° that might be a nightmare cuz there's no water but my hands were pruning my hands were so wet for so long forget gloves by the way your hands are just going to be wet they look like they've been in a pool for you know two days but those again those first light those wool gloves the [ __ ] wool even though your hands are wet it keeps your hands warm it's really
weird I don't know how it work F first light is a company that sponsors uh lit first light they sponsor meater podcast so we got a bunch of their gear and our friend Ryan Callahan works for them and everything they make is Marino wool and I was like why was this wool what the [ __ ] is Wool Wool is the [ __ ] if you're in cold weather you got to get wool and layer layer up cuz you keep warm actually people wear really tight stuff is the wrong thing to do you want to keep an air pocket around your body that's how animals keep warm so mating was telling me you should really wear very little when you go out and then keep everything else in your pack that would have been a smart thing to do I didn't do it that way I put all the layers on so by the time I got to the top of the mount I'm [ __ ] I'm literally drenched my legs are drenched my upper body's drenched and then you to sit down and you glass so glassing means you use your binocular so you sit down you're looking for deer who there there no deer there's no [ __ ] deer no so okay so we're sitting there looking for deer freezing my dick completely off and you do well in the cold but as the first time I've ever seen you shiver yeah like you were shaking you were so cold one time when I think it was the morning you came in and you were like cuz you had been you've been spent all night wet and you came in and and I was like I was like I knew you were too Mo to say anything but I was literally like get him a get him a ther full of hot water to put in his jacket cuz he's I actually got a little protective over you a sweetie well you were like you were shaking man I that was definitely sh that was no joke it's it was cold I mean in the morning it was probably in the' 40s it was it was not the most fun being wet and cold but I'm telling you it's better than being hot is as weird as it sounds it sucks a fat dick but you could warm up just by running up hills like if I wanted to like while I was freezing I could have just went [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] and just went running up a hill and I would have been warm by time I got to the top of the hill yeah I would have been sweating again but the art that that there is an art to learning how to like mating said you climb them Mountain he'll climb at the top of the mountain t-shirt and one
layer sweats takes that t-shirt right off and puts two layers on that are dry and then puts that t-shirt back on when it's come time to come down and look we did this [ __ ] for on purpose we did it for fun for the adventure cuz we love Rella and we love the show and all the guys on the show but those [ __ ] cameramen those guys who work on that show Mike and de and and and and well dod's a producer but camera those guys that work on that show Dodd's a director too now and a producer but those guys that work on that [ __ ] show godamn they have a hard job yeah they do those guys they're just getting paid they're getting paid that's what they do every week every week they're camping somewhere yeah freezing yeah hungry you know where they're going next they're going to the Jungle they're going down to [ __ ] or something yeah some crazy [ __ ] where bugs where you get where I said Dan that things about he goes he's been to the Amazon a number of times he goes oh yeah I said like what he goes snakes spiders scorpions and bugs You' never seen before bug can change don't know about by the way by the way whenever Brian C's here I by the way myself to death it's contagious it's like hashtag by the way it's like when Brody Stevens is here you go enjoy it enjoy it yes you can't help yourself but they have that banana spider down there right or is that in in the Philippines I don't know I mean they have a lot of [ __ ] up spiders in the Amazon they have thousands of things that people have never even discovered they're always finding new species of bugs down there things that defy explanation they uh I don't like bugs man I'm I'm not a fan I'm okay with other stuff I'm not I'm not okay with bugs like I I like I'll deal with like Grizzlies like okay there's a Grizzly I you'll be scared but bugs are the intangible like some huge stinging wasp that can [ __ ] that or a spider that puts you in a necrosis like you know like the the brown your your your skin starts to Decay Jeremy Horn had one of those and it left like a golf ball siiz hole in his leg left a [ __ ] hole just ate through his leg falance when snakes bite you that happens you have to this guy got bit in the foot by a falance which means which by the way I believe means Sword of
Fire it's French by the way Brian C did several characters over the time one of the reasons why I love uh going on these trips at Brian is because it becomes a giant 5day comedy it becomes a Brian C show well dude it's might a captive audience you're not going anywhere where [ __ ] you going to go but it's also your style of humor it's like that's what you do like when there's a group of guys around all of a sudden I mean you would think that you would get tired of gay jokes after 5 days no because he's got a bunch of different gay characters course Ian the Russian Ivan the Russian who makes you eat salad for many days before he [ __ ] you in the ass cuz he wants your [ __ ] clean you got to have a clean [ __ ] you have to you have to you have to keep clean your [ __ ] has to be clean eat just salad I smack you this this video of him explaining to Steve Rell what he wants rell's diet to be like Dodd's thinking about putting it online like somehow another they figuring out how to put online like an unnamed way it's mly because I have you as an audience and there's you're one of the best laughers I I just realized that after knowing you for 20 years I was like you know what I think he might be one of the greatest laughers cuz you you cackle you literally when you're laughing you literally go ha ha ha haa is h a ha a h ha how the [ __ ] I it's seductive to me I I'm literally SED and then those guys are those guys are such good audiences too well it's just you know we were talking about how some comedians are just not good at being like an audience member and one of the things that like when Brian and I first met Brian was on this show called Mad TV and I was uh a guest on the show and Brian and and I were hanging out in the cafeteria we're eating dinner and while we were eating dinner Brian was making me laugh he was cracking me up but we were with a few other actors and instead of laughing at Brian they were trying to one up him yeah and I was like ew this is so gross like you can't even just let a guy be funny like it's one thing if like comedy in those c c circumstances is like it's it's a totally intuitive thing it's like you have to know if you actually have something funny to say or not like and if if there's something funny that you can do you got to feel it
and you just got to run with it and no one can understand it no one no one can explain when something's going to be funny when something's not going to be funny it's completely totally instinctive but what these guys were doing was like being like Ultra super calculated and competitive they weren't really listening right they weren't being affected I was thinking about you know it's the very underrated quality when you have a friend who can really laugh at the at things yeah Bravo's great for that that's a really you know that's a really really um Pleasant thing to be my my sister was my first audience my sister couldn't laugh her ass off at things she was the I remember as a kid her laughing really hard at me cackling and I was like oh I think I might be funny that was the first that was the first thing where I was like my sister actually laughs at me maybe I can do this you know that's funny man that's funny so from Montana to Wisconsin to now well we failed in this attempt this is the only time well I shouldn't say that cuz the TV show is going to air whoops cat's out of the bag great show either way it's going to be a lot of fun but um we had a great time in every circumstance like even though we're in like one of the worst most uncomfortable positions you could find yourself in like constantly drenched no hope in sight your only hope for like shelter is this cloth house that you're sleeping in that's the size of a a small car you know you're climbing into a VW that's a cloth house and inside it you're wet and that's your shelter and it's not an even surface good luck finding an even surface in Alaska everything hurt too man like when I would get up my back would hurt my neck would hurt my shoulders would hurt cuz I have to sleep on my side you know so well you know the first two days I I was so tired from hiking my my legs and my hips cuz I hadn't had any in my back I'm a [ __ ] I'm not Stout as you are I'm simply not as Stout what's I prepared for this remember when I was going to bed you like you're going toed I was like no I'm just going to go to my I have to just work on I'm going to go just read I have to take care of something I was literally out dude yeah you were snoring um I really prepared
for this like I'm I always work out but I did a lot of um uh stair climber for this you're a dick man I didn't do [ __ ] of course you did that's smart and I did a lot of elliptical on like very heavy uh like I put the elliptical on like number 21 and just [ __ ] and I do Sprints yeah well I knew done that I knew I should have uh just run Hills with a pack on my back well also I did a lot of body weight squats body weight squats and pistol squats pistol squats important because there's a lot of times you're picking yourself up with one leg Yeah you know like you're uh you're we were first of all I don't know how you guys did it but renell will climb up some treacherous [ __ ] surfaces well they told me that that the Giannis told me that we were moving at a a s of simple Pace like not a hard past he goes and he said you have no idea how fast he goes have you ever been with Ral I said no I said you you have no idea how fast he moves and and and that's when he said I said we we were literally at moving at our own time well Remy Remy Warr I don't know if they've ever tested rell's cardio but Remy who's also a big- Time Hunter he hunts 300 days a year he's got that show solo Hunter and he's got a a few shows that he's working on right now with Dan Dodie a fascinating guy um but he's his cardio is so good it's at like Elite endurance athlete levels like they tested his cardio and his V2 Max is like off the charts and it's because he's usually got 100 lb of elk on his back and he's climbing uphill and it's 9,000 [ __ ] feet elevation and he's he does that all the time CU he lives in Reno and he's he does a lot of his hunts a lot of his hunts are mountain hunts he does Mountain hunts in New Zealand during the offseason he's constantly climbing up mountains so your your lung capacity your ability different kind of shape it's a different thing because you're also doing it all day well Vell was telling me that he took these bodybuilders out with them these powerlifter guys and then these uh big strong guys and you know so like what we're going to do is going to require you know a lot of endurance and this like guys like we're [ __ ] we're in incredible shape don't worry about it he said literally 30 minutes in they were throwing up 30 minutes in wow he's like
this is a long day like do you understand that we're going to do this for eight hours and you're throwing up because when you have if you look at a guy like ranella okay Rella probably weighs 65 170 somewhere around there he's a lean thin guy1 maybe yeah lean and thin and been doing it his whole life and his specialty is Mountain hunting so he's constantly climbing which is great because he can give you all the tips on like gear and what what kind of Sho it makes a big goddamn difference I had two different types of shoes one you know cuz I knew that they were probably going to get soaked and one which worked out really good this sneeze and these other ones well won't name that sucked a fat one they were terrible they just were slippery they just they didn't have the same kind of grip and you know if you listen to Rell he'll like give you like the lowdown and this is the [ __ ] to wear get this because of that get that because of this but his body his doesn't have a lot of mass you know I weigh 30 lbs more than him so I'm shorter than him I weigh 30 lbs more than him and I'm carrying a pack and a gun and all these things I'm not used to and you you know you're constantly trying to go like if you're bigger than that like a big Power Builder guy a big powerlifter one of those 250 lb characters that extra 50 lbs will [ __ ] sap your heart man it how did how did they do terrible they were throwing up a half an hour in they were done I mean he's like literally they were like you know an hour into the trip they're stopped hands on their knees they they don't train for it it's different body type well powerlifters are terrible like when you you see him like doing Jiu-Jitsu this guy Marius panowski you know who he is yeah I know super [ __ ] strongest man in the world for a while just unbelievable brute of a man started fighting MMA and Tim Sylvia who has like Tim's a great fighter but he does not have a good body you know sorry Tim if you're listening I mean look he when he was in his best shape like versus Rico Rodriguez when he won the UFC heavyweight he's not Hector Lombard in other words he doesn't have one of those genetic it's just genetic it's 100% genetic I mean he's pigeon toad that's genetic I mean I think unless Kelly Starrett says that it's not
he's probably right I I've always felt like people who walk like that it's just the way they're born but I bet that could be corrected he thinks it's emulating Kelly who created this crazy ball that you're supposed to roll in your back this wad I forget what this called workout of the day I forget what this called Supernova that's what it's called This is the latest and greatest of those things that you roll on to massage your back I bought three of these they're [ __ ] amazing I don't want to go anywhere with that one yeah I one of um marat's students gave me this and uh I just started ordering them to leave them in the office leave around the house they're amazing awesome but um anyway Sylvia who is not a body Builder he's not a powerlifter he's just a really strong guy he fought panowski and beat the [ __ ] out of him cuz he he tired him dragged him in the deep water and then [ __ ] him up which pinal's goddamn crazy for challenging Tim Sylvia former UFC heavyweight champion after like that is nuts he had like two MMA fight light him up I built like this it's really weird you're talking about this cuz today I uh my wife was having uh breakfast with um the wife of two former NFL like great are really good players giants Andre Carter who played for 13 years as a defensive end he's 65 250 looks like he doesn't just like a different kind of human being and Marval Smith who was tackle for the Steelers for like 10 years and they want to come hunting she was like oh they would love to come hunting and the first thing I thought was these men are 250 and 320 LBS or whatever respectively and I don't know if they can and with their knees after playing football for 13 years it's going to be very hard for them to climb a mountain yeah a lot of those guys they're done when they're old it's different it's you know it's just a different kind it's also when you have damage to those primary joints hips and knees you know you really see like the the loss of Mobility is pretty goddamn substantial although apparently they have pretty amazing new artificial knees like they're getting better and better at it yeah dude they're growing dicks what yes I just I just tweeted it today and uh they've done this for folks who have um you know like issues microf fallacis or mutilation
injury uh circumcision injuries things along those lines which war injuries and anything along those lines wait so they're growing dicks yeah yeah yeah um Jamie if you go to my U Tweeter Tweeter um there's a dude named Vincent Salazar who uh Vincent Salazar 11 and it it says uh it may not be his his tweet to me is it may not be a pill but it will be a boob job for men I don't know what well maybe they're printing out tissue the way they do with other tissue I didn't read it I I gave it a cursory glance but apparently they're about 5 years away they look rather small there I want to well these are just cells bro okay I these are just cells they're I mean they're 5 years away from being able to grow laboratory dicks I want something with heft that that folds over when I'm holding it to PE I want it to fold like in half I want to have a lot left over what about this would you take like say do you think the dudes who have like mediumsized dicks are gonna take a chance and get their dick lopped off and get a new one put on hoping that their body's going to accept it that's a very very um sacred part of a man right I mean that's that's a huge like if you were going into that as a venture capitalist with the assumption that men would do that I would tell you not to put your money into it I I would tell you to put your money into it because there's some dudes out there with some one-inch dicks well that's a whole different story but if you have a medium dick would imagine you know a medium dick like got giant but there was a guy there was this guy that uh was a performance artist and part of his performance art was that he would take all his clothes off and he had a dick that was and I'm not bullshitting the size of the last digit of my pinky it was incred it was I've been in enough acting classes and seen enough nude scenes and there are some dudes and one dude who was just a macho guy he was a hairdresser and he did a naked scene and I am telling you I am telling you I could see just the head of it in a in a sea of black hair well we had a dude on Fear Factor and there was a naked Fear Factor the one and only naked Fear Factor where uh we got in trouble for it cuz we made these people do a naked fashion show where they took their clothes off they went out in the runway
and they spun around and this one guy was this [ __ ] yoked up dude looked like he was a like a macho guy he had that tiny ass oh no and he talked about it beforehand he's like all right here we go and he went out there like a [ __ ] stud good for him God bless him you know what hand to him he was like you know what here's my dick I got a personality and and I can bench more than everybody in this room well he's like you know hey man I didn't [ __ ] fail dick school like this what I was born with good but maybe he would Lop it off and get one of these giant ones yeah I mean if you could add tissue to your to your Wang hey by the way if most guys with 12 in scks would be like I'll add another inch no [ __ ] way sure no guys are extreme guys are like yeah I'll add some stuff well that would be like those crazy girls who have uh breast implants that are just unbelievably ridiculous like basketball sized and they can't they want to get them bigger that's a lot of guys that there's this there's a lot of guys in I don't know if it's just the gay community but that especially did with two guys in the gay community who were shooting their dicks with silicone uh liquid silicone and saline too they do that right yeah and so it created this and the problem was it just created this Amorphis blob that they would stuff into jeans and they'd be like check this out sorry about mic yeah but like lumpy just stretching my Sergio valent all [ __ ] the outside of it is all pudgy and dimpled oh dimpled like cottage cheese dick what's that bump I don't know silicon garai you imagine damn silicon so unpredictable I mean you think about like like when people have uh cellulite on their legs imagine if you got that on your dick like of a cellulite dick have you ever like some of those medical journals I sat next to a a um a dermatologist oh no a plastic surgeon um and she was going through her um iPad and she had pictures and I was sitting next to her she was asking me about acting and I was she was showing me the and some of them she she was really in a she was covering the faces of these patients with her hand so I wouldn't see their faces cuz she was that professional even on a plane she was trying to protect their privacy or
whatever I saw this guy had a growth on his body on his shoulder looked like a a shoulder pad of skin of cauliflower and I said why how do you take that off and she said you don't and I said what do you mean she goes it's just too full of blood vessels he would die it's just part of his body and he has to have it I go so what he just leaves a giant flap of cauliflower on his back and shoulders said yeah unfortunately it's just a deformity wow and there's so many you see those medical journals and you're like oh boy some people you know don't realize how lucky you are after hiking in Canada I do living in Civilization well we're in Canada we're in Alaska Alaska alas America looks like it's Canada should be Canada it's British Columbia is like around the corner right well we stole it from Russia right is that the deal probably they can have it back no [ __ ] that that place is awesome man Alaska good people in Alaska oh then well that's one of the things that I realized when I went to uh Anchorage with Ari when we went fishing and then we did uh some shows up there the the Bears tooth the um the thing about Alaska is that there's this insane Wilderness around them and there's not a [ __ ] ton of people so they they develop this like different kind of community it's like a even though Anchorage is a real City there's like a a nice Bond I think it's because they have to they may have to rely on each other in a real way yeah there [ __ ] Bears look dude when we were in Anchorage there was just that year a [ __ ] kid on campus was killed by a moose what yes whoa yes well listen we met a guy Matt uh what's his last name um Matt which guy the guy who took care of us who Matt from Alaska yeah Matt from Alaska who drove us to the airport sent our bags just did us a solid that most people would never do in LA Matt Hamilton Matt Hamilton you handed him your very expensive you know yeah stuff yeah he's well he's a good dude you know you could you you get a sense of people like in these communities where they're they're just it's not like the hustle and bustle of New York City where there's a million rats all stuck in the Maze and everybody's [ __ ] fighting for the last kroach cheese and jammed up in traffic no these folks are fishing
that guy was offering us [ __ ] halit you know you want some I got some frozen Hal that deer I can run back and get deer I mean that's he caught 160 lb halit crazy that's a person yeah it's I mean and a halet it's like literally probably almost the size of this desk that we're sitting at can't believe how big it's like a giant flounder look like AER in the fler family yeah that's an amazing amazing part of the world and the the fishing there it's just the waters are so rich Alaska truly is like the last Wilderness the last Great Wilderness I love those shows like I don't know if you ever watch them but like they have you watch those I haven't watched any of them [ __ ] great man Life Below Zero is the best out of all those there's Alaska the Last Frontier which is pretty good too but I caught a little [ __ ] on that show you did yeah they're doing some [ __ ] reality TV show [ __ ] like they had a bear that was there and they were running away from the bear and um they were fishing on the this River the guy and his wife were fishing on the river and they're like we got to get away from this bear the the bear is eating fileted salmon so they baited the bear they baited the bear to get there and then they could film them that's annoying the Bear's eating a salmon I'm looking at these clean like filet marks where the the the the filets were removed from the body but the head and the tail were remained it wasn't anything that a bear did the bear didn't like catch that salmon and eat it there and they didn't catch any salmon so it was just [ __ ] they're just bait they like oh the be we got to get out of here you can kind of tell whenever they're acting a little bit too it's unfortunate but that that always happens on those goddamn shows man they they run out of [ __ ] to do but life zero they follow five different people or six different people and there's always something that these people are doing because they have to prepare for like the river Rising they have to prepare for Bears are coming into Camp they have to prepare for all these different things so fascinating stuff nature nature you know it it's interesting because if you look at anything in nature including human beings whether it's you know an ant or a spider rolling something a web whatever it is everybody
in nature is constantly fighting nature it's a fight it just to survive if you want to survive out there you can see why men man has always kind of pitted himself against nature just the constant struggle of trying to push yourself into a situation where you don't have to deal and contend with nature we've done a pretty good job of it you know by by figuring out ways to innovate and ways to control our environment and stuff but if you if you had to scratch out a living and look at animals I mean you can watch deer who don't move very much because they have to conserve energy and they have to stay in one area and they eat in that one area then they move down to lower land but a lot of times guess what happens that people don't realize with deer they starve to death oh not just sometimes like often often it happens all the time it's brutal most of these people that are against hunting or that think that like somehow or another that nature is supposed to be this like peaceful thing they don't understand what the reality of the life of these animals is Teddy Roosevelt had a great quote on people who don't understand hunting and people who have a problem with it who love nature and he wrote that death by violence death by cold death by starvation these are the normal ends of the noble and stately creatures of the Wilderness The sentimentalists Who prattle about the peaceful life of nature the peaceful yeah that's what he wrote peaceful life of nature do not understand its utter mercilessness life is hard and cruel and these oh okay wow this is a [ __ ] up speech and in what these sentimentalists call a state of nature yeah it's in hob said it's short Brut brsh what is what is the the expression um short and brutish it's the nature is tough well you know what it is is it's just indifferent it was one of the things that we said when we got to this place we like when we sat out there and looked out off you know the top of those mountains and we looked at all this just you feel so insignificant no no people no people enormous enormous place not a [ __ ] person to be seen and one of the first things we were thinking was like it's so indifferent it just doesn't give a [ __ ] it doesn't give a [ __ ] if you're here or well Rell was saying also that
you know the Native Americans that lived there were you know hundreds of years ago whatever were stayed on the coast they ate a lot of shellfish and fished they didn't really go into the interior to get deer it's just so difficult to do I mean you know well especially before they had Firearms it was very you imagine I mean you want to shoot an animal with a bow and arrow especially an old school bow and arrow you must get inside of 30 yards yeah 40 yard you're [ __ ] really pushing it man even with a compound bow a 40 yard shot is very difficult to be accurate with and those old bows like a lot of them just didn't have the amount of power to pull like the Mongols had these crazy [ __ ] bows but they required like 160 lbs of pull like you could probably shoot at a reliable 50 60 yard distance with those if you got really good at it but you're [ __ ] practicing with those goddamn things every day sure if you have a spear get the [ __ ] out of here how far can you throw a spear can you even throw a spear 10 yard I mean how far can you reliably throw a spear especially to make it and throw it accurately and hit an animal and kill it or graze it it's going to run off and go nowhere near you so they they they hung around where the water was because shellfish and and netting you can net fish and there was a more reliable way to capture meat were you with me when who was talk telling a story about how the Inuit would bend a bone they'd bend a bone and they would cover it in fat yes and then the and it would be frozen fat and then the polar bear would come eat the bone and the bone would open expand in the in the polar bear stomach or throat and suddenly it would basically take three days to die and they would follow it until it died and then take the just for the coat cuz they how they kept warm well one of the ways they used to kill wolves would they would take a knife like a razor sharp knife and they would embed it into the ground and then put Blood on the knife so the Wolves would come along and lick the knife and cut their tongue over and bleed to death and because they keep well they would keep licking and bleeding and licking and bleeding they would taste the blood yeah yeah and then they would just die there [ __ ] dumb [ __ ] wolves kind of Genius it's pretty
brilliant well you know people are ingenious when they they have to stay alive yeah and we obviously didn't have to stay alive we had meals we had food we had you know we brought apples and protein bars and all kinds of [ __ ] complaining though plenty of but think about if we had to live off the land while we were there what the [ __ ] did we found we found a couple salamanders we saw a duck six or seven blueberries yeah there was these blueberries they were these microscopic the head of like a head of a match blueberries and they tasted like powder they tasted like nothing good luck surviving ladies and gentlemen I ate a handful of them and one of them was kind of sweet but like you go to Whole Foods you get these [ __ ] juicy GMO blueberries don't even know where they came from who cares they're tennis ball size you [ __ ] bite down on them and they blow up in your mouth and even then you're like I need more food yeah death by violence death by cold death by starvation Teddy Roosevelt was a bad [ __ ] yep the normal ends wasn't it Teddy Roosevelt who designated Yellowstone Park is a national park I don't and Yos I believe did he yep smart man yes he was that's a good place for a national park that's a unbelievably beautiful place that's going to kill everybody eventually with the super volcano yes I've been thinking about nothing else since you told me about that ter that's the Black Swan as they say that's like everybody's going about their life and all of a sudden guess what there's a super volcano that could eradicate life on Earth well not just one there's six of them worldwide and two of them are in California which is really crazy God basically big zits on the earth yeah there's there's super volcanoes everywhere there's super volcanoes all over the world and there's not just one in Yellowstone there's a there's a gigantic super volcano I think we said in Indonesia that they think is responsible for the reason why there is only you know they believe that 75,000 years ago this super volcano in Indonesia exploded and when it exploded they think that that's why all human beings have some sort of a a relationship to each other that we all came from an original group of human beings 74,000 years ago Toba it's a it's a Caldera volcano in Sumatra it's ready
for this hold on your dick 1,080 square miles so are living on top of it as we speak in no well I don't think they I don't know if they are or not but it's in it's in IND it's in Sumatra Indonesia and it's the only super volcano in existence that can be described as Yellowstone's big sister 74,000 years ago Toba erupted and ejected several thousand times more material than erupted from Mount St Helens in 1980 several thousand times more some researchers think that toba's ancient super eruption and the global old spell it triggered might explain a mystery in the human genome our genes suggest that we all come from a few thousand people just tens of thousands of years ago instead of from a much older bigger lineage as fossil evidence testifies so we have the fossil evidence which shows a much older yeah broader line but the people of today all come from a few thousand people that might have been the only [ __ ] human beings that survived this goddamn sub volcano 74,000 why they can trace like like hiic Jews in Finland or in Hungary Africans yeah to Africans yeah unbelievable and that's all 74,000 years ago man so so so so then the but we do find with the genome that some people have some chromagnon genes in right I think well we are chromagnon I think you're thinking of neander no I mean neander I mean well there's there's I think there's obviously I'm an idiot don't listen to me Google this but um I think there's debate on this because I think that some believe that these genomes are from a common ancestor and that I think there's debate as to whether or not people [ __ ] neandertals or nalls [ __ ] people we inbred like I've joked around about it that my I'm pretty sure someone in my past [ __ ] a monkey like when people were like just starting to not be monkeys anymore really flexible you got long arms some someone let me just one more time one more time just going get back in there and somehow the monkey got pregnant like what the [ __ ] and then that's where my line came from but s and jeans but I think that um there's debate as to whether or not humans inbred with neander TOs and that's why or whether or not we have a common ancestor I don't think it's been completely figured out yet but if Neals were around for sure somebody would [ __ ] one yeah people [ __ ]
chicken one person I've seen people [ __ ] chickens my DN my buddy was a cop he found a guy [ __ ] a chicken in a car there was a family man and he had a chicken under a [ __ ] towel and he goes what are you doing yeah first of all I love that expression family man he's a family man he's a family man in San Francisco he's [ __ ] a chicken under a towel excuse me sir is that illegal I think it is illegal like they can arrest you for cruelty to animals or something but then again you eat chicken I don't know yeah it's that weird that they had to make up it's like public indecency I think they get you on stuff like that but you were [ __ ] a chicken although how about this that's a very good question because yes your honor I [ __ ] the chicken under a towel it's thing free country um you kill and eat chickens so I don't know and by and and I should be able to [ __ ] the chicken then kill and eat it technically kill and then [ __ ] it but that's like you're you're a weirdo if you kill it and then [ __ ] it you're like some sort of NE I wonder if that's a law though um I have a joke about it have you heard the joke no well it's a bit about you could you you can kill an animal but you're not allowed to [ __ ] it but what you can do is take like meal siiz portion and use it to jerk off with if like someone came in your house you're jerking off with a chicken cutlet be like what the [ __ ] I can't my privacy yeah exactly it's my chicken but if as long as it's like no one would stop you like look look okay a Fleshlight what's a Fleshlight a Fleshlight is something that resembles flesh that's made out of like some sort of a rubber whatever epoxy I don't know what the [ __ ] made out of so you're polymer you're you're putting your penis in that because it feels like flesh well you if how green would it be to take take an actual chicken cutlet use it to jerk off with warm it up in a microwave so it feels like flesh or let it sit at room temperature whatever you jerk off with it and then you cook it and eat it that's like you're making best use of all the materials but that would be probably they couldn't do anything to you but if you [ __ ] a chicken they could probably do something to you well Jonathan hate who is a guy who studies this he wrote a book called the happiness hypothesis talks exactly about
this example he said if you masturbated if you if you took a dead chick and you ate it would be fine if you took the dead chicken [ __ ] it came in it and then ate it people would be like oh yeah uh he used another really difficult if he didn't come what if you're like a tantric guy good good question like you put your penis in you're like no that's how I [ __ ] chickens that's I don't I draw the line and actually coming in them I come on them I come on them you just get that tight that's the weakest muscle I have everything else is really strong that hold back mus got better as i' got it's like an old lady's underarm you know old ladies they're underneath their arm just [ __ ] dangles there there's no power to it it's got no you got no strength old ladies can't do dips your your [ __ ] muscle put like a weight belt on an old lady and Toad to do dips that's like how strong my [ __ ] muscle Dam breaks yeah it just goes tissue paper it's basically curtains yeah it doesn't doesn't have any Jonathan talks about talks about [ __ ] like that use that example let me use another example where he says if a brother and sister in the woods use protection and have sex it's the same idea we immediately go Oh that's wrong oh but he says okay it's wrong it is that's Taboo in most cultures but again they're not having kids they had sex and nobody's getting hurt they're both you know they go on with their lives what is that why do we have this revulsion we have this buil-in we we as a society as people universally have these very interesting through lines in culture one being that all cultures recognize all cultures no matter how primitive recognize uh humorous insults uh every culture no matter how primitive has a form of humorous insults for each other they make fun of each other uh the other is that culture culture every culture according to Stephen Pinker every culture they've ever studied 100% has has a place for humorous insult so making fun ribbing each other right uh and and you're talking about the most primitive tribes or or the most Aboriginal tribes and the most you know the most techn technologically advanced tribes all have always had some form of humorous insult the other is a recognition for certain things that are taboo yes but they're different across
the board culturally like we were talking about those cultures in New Guinea Sean Warriors in New Guinea that have this crazy thing where they molest young boys Widow strangling where they where the where of a Widow's a woman's husband dies the next man closest to the husband strangles her yeah but those are very very isolated tribes that have had not shared any ideas with other people that had no cross-pollination so you're going to get very weird fetishistic sort of um examples of human behavior also like when when you we know that like when people molest children that those children who have been molested often have this very distorted idea of sexuality and sometimes become abusers themselves and that this could have easily happened on these small Islands but these are large groups of people like thousands of people practice these this New Guinea um seen warrior ritual it's still very small in relation people need to read about this cuz I mean we're not going into depth about it I mean it's it's an incredible [ __ ] bizarre thing these New Guinea Warriors they take these young boys away from their mother at a very early age and they start having sex with them and they do it because they say that the boy needs semen in order to grow up strong and healthy by ingesting seen either through their mouth or through their butt and like this is how they grow up I mean this is the the seen Warriors of New Guinea Google it and freak the [ __ ] out new guine has a Jared Diamond did so many examples so many crazy examples of insane human behavior it's usually probably some lone pervert who's like let's [ __ ] boys and now he's the leader but but you know they've got that's why they have cannibalism and all kinds of stuff but whenever you see a large population a civilization of people who have been able to cross-pollinate ideas so if you take huge areas the bonto belt of Africa the Fertile Crescent of the North Africa and of the Middle East uh China for example that's where taboos have strong sexual undercurrents where certain sexual activity a lot of times has se is is very taboo and there's a lot of similarities you can draw with that um which is interesting so so there are through lines you can draw with cultures you do get those aberration with those smaller groups of people that
isolated people talking about the New Guinea people when we were on our trip about eating their dead bodies and the way they would explain this in insane [ __ ] thing that they used do yeah well I they still do I had Jared diamond on the podcast and I said tell me about you've seen them cannibalized and he said you really want to know about it I said yeah he said well you asked for it he said some tribes when they would have Waring they'd have a war and they'd kill somebody they would eat they cook the chop it up cook cook the body but there are tribes in papon Nini that will take the body after like if a relative dies they'll take the body they'll lay it out naked on slats of wood so there are slats so there are holes they put buckets under the slats and they let the body just purify and gel to the point where it starts to drip into the buckets and then they take their sweet potatoes and they dip their sweet potatoes into the human goo and they eat it and and oh and here's the other problem they uh the reason a lot of and the life expectancy for most of them in the highlands was like 40 years old um most died from by violent violent deaths from inter war and from infection and things but they would also when they would do that they would get uh what they called laughing disease kakuru which is creutzfeld Jacob's crfi what is that it's like mad Cy essentially from eating you know brain and you know all that stuff brain tissue so don't eat people guys don't let the body gel and purify at least cook and eat a filet if you're going to eat somebody eat the chest the ass in Joe Rogan's case he's got a set of cheeks on him and you got some big legs I was looking at your legs I think your legs have actually gotten bigger you had your you had your pants off for a second near the campfire trying to dry your ass out as we were talking Joe's literally doing squats hanging his wet ass over the fire and I was like I was like looking at your legs I was like the kid's got some he's got he's got a strong lower body looks like a a centur well I told you I did prepare for this yeah worked out for why didn't you tell me to prepare cuz you wouldn't listen I would listen I work out I've been lifting heavy as you bar out shut up I do not look at my body I was I was doing a lot of uh kettle bell squats taking
270s clean them get them here and just set to 25 okay I didn't do that that's a lot of weight you were making that noise yeah you got you got to breathe out I love when guys I love when guys I love when guys describe their body bro when I when I was lifting dude my chest was like and my abs were like bro my legs and ass were like isn't it amazing what a calming and like like morale boosting thing having a fire was for us oh God we couldn't build a fire for the first what three days and when we finally got that fire going it was me and Mike we we had this idea I was like we're going to make a [ __ ] fire like we have gasoline we have whiskey tell them how we tell them what the best kindling is in the world Fritos Fritos Fritos Fritos light on fire like a [ __ ] and hold their flame hold their flame like those candles that you can't blow out on a birthday cake while we were in t while we were in Camp I watched the documentary King Corn I had it on my laptop it was one of the days where we couldn't go anywhere I just sat and watched this I was worried that my laptop was going to cook and explode cuz it was like in a sea of De but uh my laptop is tough cuz it's been spilled on so many times I've spilled coffee on it it's toughen my laptop up but this [ __ ] documentary is an amazing documentary King Corn if you've never seen it you if you're interested at all in like what the [ __ ] is going on with corn and how many things corn is in and our country you got to watch this documentary these guys did an amazing job these two guys they got out of college they were doing some research on corn and they decided to uh get their their hair and their tissue uh analyzed and when they they analyz it this guy said the carbon in your body is all from corn yeah we inest so much eat so much corn that your body's made out ofn it's like what the [ __ ] are you talking about so these guys they rented or leased an acre of land on this guy's property in Iowa and they grew their own corn and grew it from the the time it went to the ground to adding pesticides to taking it to Market they went through the whole thing and then explained all the different things that corn is in and it is [ __ ] stunning it's in everything right it's also stunning how all of it
is with subsidies and if it wasn't for government subsidies all these people would lose money these guys got a check from the government to grow their acre of corn it was a small check cuz it was only one acre but if they're growing 10,000 30,000 Acres like a lot of these folks are they they rely on these government checks ethanol ethanol which we don't really need anymore but ethanol is used and now there's a lobbying e there's a very strong lobbying presence in Washington that's not going to let ethanol go away ethanol has a cottage industry around it people make money off of growing corn for fuel uh and there are a thousand examples of that you know where where corn has a very strong Lobby the sugar Lobby is very strong there's another documentary called Fed Up about you know when when when the World Health Organization came along and said 10 only 10% of your diet should be sugar of all kinds whether it's fruit juice or just sugar is just not good for your body we have the science to to prove it and the the sugar industry and the corn syrup industry came along and said well if you want your you know put a lot of pressure on the the Bush Administration to tell them to World World Health Organization if you want your $450 million this year you better revi you better leave that out of your report because we have people believing in our school launch programs and stuff that 25% of your diet can be simple sugars and you know it's I got to watch that documentary because it's amazing how how many interests powerful interests get involved in getting you to eat corn getting you to eat foods that you know in their byproducts that they make a lot of money off that may not be so good for your body yeah it's it's bizarre it's bizarre how bad it is for your body and how much of it is in Foods corn syrup corn starch corn proteins corn this corn that it's it's incredible these corn additives and without the subsidies it wouldn't be happening it's like our government is literally paying to keep our diets shitty that's right because they're in bed with this industry and I'm really wondering what would happen if hemp became legal worldwide and especially legal in the United States because we sell hemp food we sell those hemp protein bars that I brought with us on on the trip those onit uh hemp Force
protein bars and on it hemp Force powder but we have to buy our hemp from Canada and there's a bunch of different grades of it we buy the highest grade stuff it's very expensive and one of the reason why it's very expensive it's hard to grow and it's growing up in Canada well it's hard to grow in America it's impossible to grow I should have said it's not it's not subsidized either no it's not subsidized you got to get it in Canada and the the the hearts the hemp hearts the the best part of it is what we get and it's you know it's very high in protein but we could that could be all over this country and far and it's easy to [ __ ] grow it's it's not susceptible to various bugs and and and and [ __ ] and weeds it is a [ __ ] weed it grows crazy easy is hemp a a it's in the marijuana family right this is what it is it's the male version of the plant the female version of plant yes is where you get the THC but they can grow like acres and Acres of non psychoactive hemp like you don't even get you don't even test positive for THC if you eat hemp protein but if you eat poppy seed Bagels you test positive for heroin wow if people that are going through drug tests like you you they don't touch poppy seeds well you can't they tell you don't eat poppy seeds for x amount of days damn because if you eat it you you turn up positive for heroin God yeah it's [ __ ] crazy it's crazy it's really crazy and hemp is it has all the essential amino acids it's a far better source of paper it's far better Building Material have you ever seen a Hemp stock you ever pick up like a Hemp stock like Hemp stock okay you can make a rope out of it I know that oh yeah well you make the best rope okay the best rope in the world parachutes George senior George Herbert Walker Bush the parachute that he used to safely parachute in World War II that was made out of hemp he parachuted to safety with a [ __ ] hemp parachute there was a video called hemp for victory where in World War II they were ENC this is post illegalization by the way they made it illegal in the 1930s well the 1940s they were encouraging Farmers to grow hemp for the war effort like go pull up hemp I believe pull up the YouTube video Pull up the YouTube video hemp for victory it was part of it Dupont was in cahoots
allegedly with William Randolph hurse but William Randolph hurse was the main reason why hemp became illegal and a lot of it was because he was going to have to convert all of his paper mills to uh to hemp paper hemp paper is way better like if you pick up regular paper look look at this hemp for victory play this play play the volume this was this is a propaganda film that they made in the 1940s to get people to start growing hemp for the war effort wow yeah this is [ __ ] crazy when you think about it this [ __ ] is illegal today that's amazing look those buildings are made of hemp you guys ancian temples were new was already old in the service of mankind for thousands of years even then this plant had been grown for cordage and coarse cloth in China and elsewhere in the East for centuries prior to about 1850 all the ships that sail the Western Seas were rigged with hemp and rope and sails for the Sailor no less than the hangman hemp was indispensable do you know canvas comes from the word cannabis can clo like canvases those were all made out of hemp I just love their voices andar they talk about things we're very formal that was their version of the strip club DJ that's right hemp was something that and there always the music behind with some flute look at that those are hemp cors be good American and buy hemp even people in the East China and otherwhere other places so what happened was in the 1930s they came out with this invention called a decorticator and the decorticator they used it to more effectively access the hemp fiber they before they used slavery slavery was the only the way they would do it like smash these fibers down and it wasn't as effective as cotton and so they they came up with a cotton mill when uh Eli Whitney came up with a cotton mill cotton Jin when they started uh doing that like well Cotton's way easier now so they started making things out of cotton but then they came out with the decorticate and like oh [ __ ] hemp is going to be making a comeback and they were saying hemp is a new billion dollar crop like pull up the the cover of Popular Science magazine in uh 1930 I want to say 35 37 one of those
years the cover of Popular Science magazine said hemp the new billion doll crop this is a cover of this magazine and and then right after that it was made illegal and then Dupont and those other interest came along um just pull up hemp the new billion dollar crop made illegal cover magazine 193 1938 there it is wow hemp they going to use hemp clothes and hemp paper and hemp this and hemp food and hemp oils hemp oils are super good for your body and not psychoactive at all when you when you said Eli Whitney is was the same kind of thing I was thinking about how one man's invention made slavery essentially there was a real abolition move Abolitionist Movement going on where slavery was really the anti-slavery movement was gaining tremendous ground because it was really hard to justify of course and then when Eli Whitney came along with the cotton gin and all those Southern plant were like we got all this free labor and and this is white gold we're selling this stuff not only to Europe but to to North Africa everywhere everybody wants American cotton uh not so fast we're not getting rid of slavery here this makes no sense we got a lot of free labor and uh thank you Eli Whitney for you know I wonder I always wonder like you come up with this amazing invention and uh but that's going to keep a people enslave for about another hundred years thank you very much it's just one of those weird things in history where you just go [ __ ] well it it played a part obviously do you know how have you ever heard about this incredible historical story about Morse how Morse code was invented no this is so amazing Mor was that's amazing Morse but this is what's more amazing Morse was a painter a very successful oil painter very successful and his wife he got a t he got a on before Morse code it's very important to remember that the only way to get a message to somebody throughout history Al Alexander the Great and George Washington had to use the exact same methodology which was horse boat or foot a messenger P pigeon but in very small areas what about Crow uh no I'm Afra Raven I'm afraid not a raven that's in Game of Thrones that's a lie that's a lie it's a lie but no no no they sent a raven I'm sorry my friend that's a lie it's got to be um it's got
to be a a messenger next thing you'll tell me the dragons aren't real uh well have you ever seen uh p yes but crocodiles that's true that's what happened don't give it away she's the Mother of Dragons she that's an amaz I love that I can't wait till that comes back yeah she's wonderful she's the Mother of Dragons kisi kisi what a good kid Ki hey she's a queen bro whatever hey don't your voice is getting all grav that's that's my friend Jimmy from back home Jimmy datillo used to say that whenever a girl was like really perverted York he would go what a Boston he would go what a good kid good kid she's a good kid Jimmy perk does that Jimmy perk used to always say that she's a good kid he used to say that too really yeah it's very New York oh so it's an East Coast very East Coast so for perverts well he I don't think U you know my friend Jimmy was all Boston born and raised ulys Grant um was the one who turned Yellowstone into a national park um Theodore Roosevelt turned Yos okay Yos so so Morse thank you to DJ jackpot on thank you DJ so Morse Morse gets um a a message your wife is sick in Connecticut he was in north northern New York or something he gets on a you in a horse and buggy and he goes down and by the time he gets there he loved his wife she wasn't only dead she had been buried so he never got a chance to say bye to her he's heartbroken and all he does as this painter a painter is he obsesses over how in the world he can figure out he could figure out a way to not have that where he could get if he had gotten the message earlier he could have gotten there to see his wife wow seven years later he's on an ocean Lin and he meets a dude who's a scientist who's working with electromagnetic fields and he basically says do you think it would be possible to use this electromagnetic field and get it somewhere else so that we can quick in time long story short he he he he basically gets together with this this guy who is a scientist on electromag netive fields they send a message and I can't remember whether it was from New York to Washington DC but I think it was but at first it was a short distance it was only like you know U you know I don't know a quarter mile or something I don't know what it are you looking at up
right now Washington to Baltimore Washington to Baltimore and they sent a message in as much time as it takes electricity to get there it was instantaneous and it it it was of course a bigger Revolution than even the internet some would argue because before that time and throughout all of human history the only way to get a message to somebody was by foot boat or horse and it just had never been done before before it was a complete Revolution and it started because a guy was heartbroken over not being able to say goodbye to his wife before she died that's incredible yeah that is [ __ ] incredible that's more that's why I love history well it's fascinating when you think that there was people a long time ago that if something was going on 10 miles away there's no way of finding out I know no way I know now if there's a Revolution going on in China right now in Hong Kong we're watching it live in real time there's streaming websites you know there's there's criticism of the way China's handling it you get to read various different points of view I mean it's and oppressive oppressive regimes aren't allowed to get away with murder if they can but they have to be very careful because they know the world's watching it makes the world less brutal I would argue oh way more way way more accountable way what the world would have done if the Mongols were coming into the Middle East and just killing people wholesale and Russia the way they did think about what the world would be doing we'd be like we got to stop these [ __ ] on Horseback right now yeah you know but nobody was watching we didn't know that's where you got to love something called America okay cuz we just send some drones over there oh you got 160 lb bow and you like to drink horse blood mix with milk I'm in Nevada sipping coffee [ __ ] Xbox drinking Mountain Dew and a [ __ ] kid with a hemorrhoid is lighting you [ __ ] up from the sky big thumb muscles could you imagine if you could do that I mean if time travel becomes reality where you can't mess up the timeline like say if all timelines are completely independent say if you could go back in time and you could have like have at it and do whatever the [ __ ] you want it would have no bearing on the future if they find
out the timelines are completely independent and that if you do go back in time it has literally no effect on the current future you go back to where you were and nothing's changed you even your your actual actions never really took place they took place in alternative timeline how much would you love to [ __ ] suit up with some like Navy SE type bulletproof armor lock yourself down in a [ __ ] giant tank and go rolling into the Mongol Empire one person say you know what I win I'm just taking over I I I think about that every single day and I'm not kidding I think about helicopter gunship while these a-holes are on their horses coming and try to kill and rape and do all and be like hey guess what check out this bird from the sky I look like a giant hornet tell me if this stings now think about this what will people from a years from now be thinking about us and how ridiculous would they think that we are listen to what these [ __ ] did they made explosions in little metal containers and these explosions propelled these very dense metal balls through the air at ridiculous speeds and they went through each other's bodies and that's how they did war they couldn't read minds they didn't understand it Enlightenment and they were also human they didn't have the enlightenment pills yet they didn't know how to have perfect genetics they didn't know how to engineer cancer away they were all fighting over resources they got cold they had electricity that was coming from wait for it nuclear power these [ __ ] idiots they had developed these nuclear sites where they had these generators that they could never shut off and they they kept them running and when they would have anything would go wrong the power would go out it would melt down and they would have to clear everyone out of the area for 100,000 not only that you had to be tied to a power source you literally had to have a a long rope coming out of your head that was attached to some huge box just to hear yourself or other people everything was plugged in well how about solar power in California why isn't everything solar powered I don't know we don't have any [ __ ] rain I mean is the one resource that we have that's Bountiful and plentiful is sunlight we have a real problem we've it's rained
once in a year here it's crazy we have a real problem but we have massive massive amounts of solar electricity that no one's tapping into and we got a [ __ ] ocean that we could just desenate mhm why don't why haven't they figured out how to do that they say well it takes incredible amount of power what about [ __ ] solar power how about use solar power figure out an efficient way of using solar power to process the salt out of the water and we have the most green Lush landscape ever California I don't know if we have the technology yet I think it's really hard to do we're on it get to work a [ __ ] guy named Morris figured out a way to send signals back when there was no come on inventors no do they even have cars no no cars no no do they have phones no there was no [ __ ] phones they had trains they had I think they had the internal no maybe not trains worked on coal back if you had a book and you spit on the pages all the [ __ ] information would run down and leak you think about it they fools well books had to be hand handwoven and but the printing press was another Revolution I mean Gutenberg he was a watchmaker oh and it was just the printing press was another when you talk about the seminal people in history the people that changed everything he's in there when was the printing press invented uh I used to know the answer to this uh in in the it might have been actually in the beginning of the 1800s or maybe even earlier than that let me like I think 17 it was like the 17 the actual printing press was probably invented I believe in 17 why ask why J I'm just trying to guess I can't remember but by the time it actually took a hold it was a while about 100 years it's amazing to think that back before then like people had to write out all the letters yeah I think it 1600 1640 if you get like an old book ear it was earlier in 1640 well Martin Luther well didn't wasn't that one of the reasons why Martin Luther was able to spread his propaganda so far because he was printing things and putting them on the the walls of churches well he he did he he he did his I think it was bitberg he did he did his 100 proclamations and he nailed it to the church door and that was basically saying that the Catholic church was a sham or at least they didn't need all
this money and it was corrupt and if you want the word of God all you need is the Bible you don't need all this elaborate IC it was actually more than that he actually phonetically translated the Bible for the first time for the common folk so regular people could read the Bible that wasn't actually Martin Luther's uh that wasn't Martin Luther's contribution Martin Luther's contribution was to say he was a Jesuit priest I believe who said that it to be um you can be just as holy as the pope as a common man if you are religious and you follow the Bible you don't need this huge infrastructure and hierarchy of Bishops and Priests he did something with translating the Bible I know this for sure was it um what is it what year was it 1450 wow 1450 that's incredible yeah but it didn't really take hold the printing press wasn't used uh you know until 100 200 years later I mean on a wide scale the projects yeah the Luther Bible a German language Bible translation from the Hebrew and ancient Greek by Martin Luther yeah it was uh so the New Testament was first published in 1522 and the complete Bible containing the Old and New Testaments uh was 1534 and the project absorbed Luther's later years thanks to then recently invented printing press the result was a widely disseminated and uh contributed significantly to development of today's modern High German language and So what had happened was when Luther this is all from there's a um the reason why I know it is because of uh Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast on it um I don't remember the exact episode I I'll try to recall it but it's amazing this episode on Martin Luther and how the the Luther had created this movement and this movement had actually gone Far and Beyond his ideas and gotten like completely totally radical which was what which was essentially the proletariat can be just as holy as somebody with cloth and a crown I mean in other words was it was kind of a it was kind of the democratization of Christianity right I mean all you needed was a Bible and to walk and to live the word of God and you could be you going to Heaven Too need a church in order to it was that was that was real heresy to say that you know you as a farmer if you follow the word of God can be even less corrupt and be in more favor with God
than even the Pope that was that was pretty radical I mean he I think he had leave Germany for it well I don't I don't remember exactly specifically what the events were but his his uh take on it Dan Carlin's take on it I think God damn it I'm going to find it here because what didn't didn't his teaching spark the Hundred Years War I mean the Catholics and the Protestants was vicious Wars Thor's Angels is the name of the podcast um you got to you got to listen to it cuz it is [ __ ] absolutely completely stunning it uh he's a he's a [ __ ] amazing guy Man Dan Carlin his podcasts are amazing and his uh his his take on it is so in it's it's so enthralling he's so good at like being theatrical and dragging you into and explaining it all but he explains all the the personalities that were involved and all the conflicts that were involved but it was essentially the first time where the public had gotten a hold of what it really said in the Bible because before you couldn't read the Bible to yeah it was read to you so they had to rely on other people and it was read a lot of times in Latin and and a lot of people didn't speak Latin they would just go to church and listen to the you know listen to the priest speak still to this day you go to the you go to the church PR also would give you you would do things for the priest and they would they would Grant you um what of the word I can't remember the word for it but you'd basically get points in favor of going to heaven like it used to look like when it was handwritten amazing how about that what Steve Rell was saying about all the Buffalo yeah well that's Dan Flores um Buffalo diplomacy and uh bison diplomacy he's uh that guy I'm going to try to get him on the podcast I'm getting his information from uh Vanella but what essentially is saying is that our idea is that the white man came and killed all the Buffalo there were millions of Buffalo and then also the there's a a commonly held misconception that people gave small pox to the Native Americans on purpose and that what really happened was small pox they didn't even know what the [ __ ] small pox was and the French had given it to the Native Americans accidentally because they had it it
spread through the Native Americans yes and killed a huge amount of people they say 90% of the population 90% of the people so when that happened the Buffalo just grew out of control and what he talked about is how the early settlers the early Europeans they documented all these different things that they seen uh they had seen all the deer elk all the different animals they see they didn't talk about Buffalo they did they didn't document it but then hundreds of years later after the Native American population had dwindled like substantially 90% of them had died off because of small pox the Buffalo were out of [ __ ] control and he also talked about how the introduction of the horse changed the way they were hunting because the the horse even preceded a lot of European settlers the Spanish brought the horse exactly they brought the horse over during their Cortez days and that's why Cortez had no they thought that's what spread influenza through the Mississippi Delta and all those different diseases that that Native Americans had never been exposed to cuz when they came back they saw these towns that were empty and it was like where are all the people well they they died off and what Dan Flor is apparently saying I'm going to try to get him on soon is that the Native Americans just with the horse and the firearm were on their way to eradicating the Buffalo or extraa meaning you know extin and that cuz they stopped farming right they would they would they would follow the Buffalo became nomadic exactly because there's they [ __ ] 2,000lb animal that just stand still yeah I mean yeah and they had guns and they were on horses so they could ride as fast as the Buffalo could run Buffalo's delicious yeah and it's like shooting a house so they what had happened was when the Western people came and killed like millions of Buffalo and stacked them on top of each other and the reason why there were so many buffalo in the first place is they had gotten widely out of control wildly out of control because so many Native Americans had died really I mean we're doing we're doing a a really bad job of explaining this but apparently this guy um Dan Flores has some really interesting information and a deep deep base of knowledge on this on
this subject and all sorts of historical points of reference reference that he can point to that explains why these animals had died off and what was going on but it's it's amazing when you think that this country like you're talking about the the very earliest European settlers 1400s 1500s that's nothing no it's nothing it's no it's a blink of an eye it's 500 years ago I also think it's very patronizing to suggest that the Native Americans weren't exactly like white people in a lot of ways in terms of just they they would they of course they would hunt things to experation I mean uh just right I mean the human beings like going to go in that kind of rugged ter R you're going to you're going to follow Buffalo if it's that easy and and if you kill them you'll go to the next herd come on but I also do think that the way they were living by taking everything from this animal utilizing every piece of the animal utilizing the bones utilizing they were better STS of the Earth for sure without a doubt and they were more engaged in the whole relationship that they had to these animals that they were killing and eating well I think our Legacy if we're not careful you know our modern man I'm talking about our Legacy in 2014 if we're not careful our our Legacy may very well be that we destroyed this Earth You know I mean or made it a lot worse and that's that's really hard to stop with the onslaught of technology and all the you know just the the growth of our population and how many resources we need and the byproducts and the wastes but uh that's that's a huge challenge man and I don't know the answer to how you stop it but yeah it's interesting man it's it's really it's really science is the answer though science is is probably the way we're going to figure out yeah not probably I think it's the only way out taking carbon out of the atmosphere growing food with less water and less space all that stuff oh somebody corrected me the Dan Carlin episode is uh the prophets of Doom that's the one that's on um thanks to tesp from the shout out to tesp board uh that's the Dan Carlin episode but yeah I'm I I I'm I'm a really big Optimist I mean I'm always hoping that we're going to get our [ __ ] together always but whether or not science is the answer or
whether or not Ebola fixes the problem or super volcano we have to start all over again like the Sumatra volcano I know but can you imagine if we had to start over I was thinking about that I was like no we're getting so close to doing some cool stuff right but what is cool stuff for who cool stuff for you you're not going to be here to see it cool stuff for your kids I mean what our role is very strange our role is very strange cuz we're a piece of a puzzle that likes to pretend that we're the thing we we're not we're we're a grain of sand not even yes but I do think that what I think about is that what gives us meaning is all of us no matter most of us at least unless you're a crazy person but all of us are always working like even even like Dawkins and people who are sort of nihilists people who say well you know we're we're a grand San and none of this means anything it's all meaningless if that were the case they are still writing books to tell us how meaning meaningless it is every body is very busy working very hard at their own expression and I think it's because and we were talking about this some people like you know they want to score social browning points but for the most part human beings work very hard to try to at least influence for the better the people that we love the people we're connected to the people that we are well we're trying to make things better for ourselves but the reality is people that we love our son is going to burn out our our planet is going to no longer be able able to support life everything is temporary it's just the timeline is enormous it's like is it doesn't have meaning sure it has meaning currently but that's what we need to concern ourselves with what what what holds meaning to you and the people that you love those things are important but the reality of Life on this planet is first of all the reality of human beings you know we're joking around about one of my ancestors [ __ ] a monkey but the reality is we are going if if human beings stay alive okay if civilization continues to innovate and we continue to to this this insane progression of technology that we're currently involved in if that keeps growing and keeps happening we will laugh at how Goofy and aplike we were 2014 in our search for me primitive
Machinery which is our our original biology is already becoming obsolete right I mean sort of I mean at the very least it's it's it's it's outdated andwell said we look at our bodies the way we look at a cell from from the 80s as you're able to like mesh your body with machines and you become more efficient everything from holding your breath for an hour underwater or red blood cells to keep you warm or whatever it might be technology tissue regeneration nanotechnology Robotics and and biocompatible Machinery like that is going to change our very biology which leads a whole new set of problems at a certain point in time will we even be a person anymore and will we even be what we consider a carbon-based life form anymore right very exactly because we're inventing synthetic biology and let's take it a step further uh is as you're able to download memory and you're if you're able to download memory if you're able to download what goes on in our brains I've seen people criticize him you know I've seen people criticize his ideas saying those things won't be possible but I think what they're missing is that we can replicate it without even totally understanding its processes like the the the the thing is like we don't understand all the complex processes of U of you know utilizing proteins and this and that and how many steps and phases it takes to create a human being but they could recreate what it is to be a human being without all those processes if they have a different mechanism so instead of a biological me mechanism of cells and proteins and vitamins and nutrients and you know neurotransmitters and all the different things that grow into being a person if it's silicon based if it's some sort of computer-based system that emulates all all of the processes of being a human being and does it better maybe yeah very possible very possible I mean look at that dude that that guy that shot his wife in uh South Africa the blade runner dude historious yeah that [ __ ] with those stupid blades was running way faster probably than he could have without them yeah that's right well and the other thing is that we learn more about the brain like it it it really throws into question like you people talk about having out-of- body experiences well what they found is they
can they can manipulate they can touch parts of the brain that give people out of body experiences where they feel like they're watching everything from their body which is fascinating to me because that was always sort of the idea I'm looking down as I was dying I could see myself and all that well it may be that there's a chemical thing going on in the brain where you actually you can actually manipulate that and replicate that process it's just not even maybe well here's the other thing we know about dreams dreams are a very real thing everyone I think everyone most people dream so what is a dream a dream is an illusion it's not really happening what's something you're imagining something really intricate and detail I had some [ __ ] crazy dreams when we were sleeping in in tents and Alaska really bizarre dreams so when you know you're talking about near-death experiences the people are unconscious when they're having these like of oh there's so much deep meaning to it really well I was on a skateboard I was getting chased by Godzilla in a dream is there deep meaning in that yeah because both of them are Illusions you weren't really flying above your body okay and I wasn't really getting chased by Godzilla they they both probably seemed equally real mhm and the idea of a dream in and of itself is a very [ __ ] strange thing you shut your brain off every night you close your eyes and your mind starts a process that we don't totally understand we know there's a bunch of things happening like REM sleep rapid eye movement we know know now that there's neurotransmitters that are moving in and out of the brain and [ __ ] around with your Consciousness while you're out and we know what processes are shutting down and turning off but we don't totally understand what dreaming is we don't understand it we really don't understand why we even need it it's amazing it's incredible so when someone talks about like having a near-death experience like yeah maybe you're [ __ ] dreaming you know like I don't know I don't know what happened you don't either I know it changed me so much but I think eventually we'll figure it out that's for sure at least be able to replicate dreams or have you know perhaps maybe we'll transcend before we figure it out I mean we might abandon
the body before we even totally understand its processes it really throws into turmoil the people who have strict Orthodox religious beliefs too I mean they're already [ __ ] they're already [ __ ] you know I was watching this video before you got here Richard Dawkins arguing with his Islamic people and this guy was talking about how moral Islam is and how it's important and ethics and this and that and Dawkins just kept hammering this dude he said what is the price that you must pay if you abandon Islam and the guy didn't want to answer it guy didn't want to answer it and then he went back to it what is it apost apostrophe apostate apostate but what's the what's the actual expression of leaving it's not you don't say I I committed apost you leave you're an apostate apost so I don't know whatever it is what's the what what is what is right but what's the what is it like you know perjury if you perjure yourself it's called perjury whatever apostrophe I think it's called but anyway the guy wouldn't answer it he didn't want to answer it he was trying to skirt around it and Dawkins kept hammering him it's finally he goes it's the death penalty he goes well there you go you leave Islam and it's you have to be killed like it's that's that's in your religion do you understand that that's [ __ ] crazy like that's the death penalty and the guy was just like stammering he was just stuck there because that is the reality not only that in Islamic countries some insane number like in the 90 percentile believe that you should be stoned to death for adultery well but but but I have to just having lived there for a long time I do have to come to the defense of the fact that that those just like with with the book of Deuteronomy and Judaism which says exactly the same thing by the way most Muslims it says if you leave Christianity you get killed no in the book of Deuteronomy I mean a lot of those laws come from the Old Testament remember the the Quran was very heavily influenced by the Old Testament Quran in in many ways rebuttal to the New Testament saying that Jesus Christ is not God but but but most of the old The Ten Commandments and things are held as chonic law as well okay so so so but it
does where does it those things come from the old Jewish law but where does it ever say that if you leave Christianity you're supposed to be killed it doesn't I'm talking about I'm just saying that that Islam got that from Judaism okay that that's what I'm saying and so and but the point I was making is that most Muslims most Muslims in in I would I would guarantee I promise you don't believe that adultery that you should Stone a woman to death most Muslims aren't even that religious and there's this misconception and also Islam is very very the the the religion if you look at the difference between Indonesian Muslims for example and wahhabi Muslims who are in Saudi Arabia it's vastly different because the way they interpret the Quran the Quran is can be interpreted it's the most easily and widely interpreted religion as well leaves very very very open for interpretation so so and that's what n Islamic scholars will always tell you and and most Muslims don't hold that point of view right but isn't that like saying that most Christians believe in evolution I mean it's like what is the what is the religion based on if you start deviating from it and adding in a bunch of your own thoughts and then just sort of ignoring the old stuff like old Rel all stuff they do but does but that does does that matter because a bunch of people still do that I mean isn't the heart of it still ridiculous oh well you I I think that Dawkins though might be harping on an ex on on one aspect of Islam when When what when you also look at he was he was talking in Broad terms but he wanted to pick one very important Point like when people are talking about it being in a religion of Peace he was saying really well how come if you leave you're supposed to be killed that's not peaceful I and and and that's a very good point and a very good question and and and and an important question to ask I I also think that there is also value in Islam to a lot of Muslims because it is a blueprint for how to live their lives and it works for them uh for example be charitable to people charity is a very big part of Islam um you know there are a lot of examples of that modesty charity and things like that it's when people take interpret these things literally I.E fundamentally or if
they take it as symbology as as as a suggestions live you just like you could be a Christian uh fundamentalist and you're going to be a very different person than if you are a regular Christian who takes this symbolism Jamie pull up just Google not radical Islam and then pull up a video pull up videos from not radical Islam on Google and it's the very first video It's called it's not the radical um it's Islam when I don't know what the word is s h a y k h what's that word sh I don't know how how you say but anyway this guy is being interview this guy is communicating with this group of people and uh they're all these other islamics or other Muslims and he's talking about how people are con confused about what radical Islam is and what's just actual Islam and what the what the law is and what you're supposed to do and watch this video how they always attack the Muslims or Islam in particular while for for sub certain things for example about gays they always attack us and the teachings towards this matter for example while in Christianity in Judaism it's the same uh punishment uh that exists you know it's Haram in uh so why they're always for example focusing on Islam and not Judaism or or Christianity while for example also on Jerusalem for those who've been to Jerusalem in in in the bosses in Jerusalem for example when women sits separate than men for example you know so why like 5 minutes ago or early we were asked about why Muslims uh has to be sitting separate you know men and women but they never ask uh these questions to Jews or or Christians why specifically Muslims or Islam didn't you answer this question yesterday and you said that you need to ask the media yeah yeah it's true yeah but he needs an answer here he was not here but the other people were here and the other people will uh suffer because of you the the the answer is very simple Islam is the truth and Christianity and Judaism and not the truth yeah but a comment regarding this topic may I she you are the Big Y but you are the she you are the big you the doctor yes can we have the camera can we have this camera focusing on all the audience here can we have this camera focusing on
all the audience because every now and then every time we have a conference every time we invite a speaker they always can come with the same accusations this speaker supports death penalty for homosexuals this speaker supports death penalty for this crime or this crime or that he is homophobic he they subjugate women etc etc etc it's the same old stuff coming all the time and we always try to tell them I always try to tell them that look it's not that speaker that we're inviting who has these extreme radical views as you say these are General views that every Muslim actually has every Muslim believes in these things just because they're not telling you about it or just because they're not out there in the media doesn't mean they don't believe in them so I will ask you everyone in the room how many of you are normal Muslims you're not extremist you're not radical there normal Sunni Muslims please raise your hands everybody mashallah Subhan Allah okay take down your hands again how many of you agree that men and women should sit separate please raise your hands all of them raise their hands yeah hold on this is everyone agree everyone agree brothers and sisters Subhan Allah so so it's not just this radical sh allahar next question how many of you agree that the punishments described in the Quran and the Sunnah whether it is death whether it is stoning for adultery whatever it is if it is from Allah and his messenger that is the best punishment ever possible for humankind and that is what we should apply in the world who who agrees with that and they all raise your hand allahar are you all radical extremists Subhan Allah so all of you are saying that you are common Muslims you all go to the different Mass is no way or is it are you like a specific sect like the Islam that sect or anything like that are you like that no is it are you like that raise please raise your hand if you like this extreme Islam that sect or anything like that no one allahar how many of you just go to this normal masss in nor every the normal Sunni M please raise your hands all of them raise their hands
allahar God is great that's what's the politicians going to say now what is the media going to say now that we're all extremists we're all radicals we need to deport all of us from this country Subhan Allah allahar may we have the next question please is that fascinated well I don't I I don't I don't like those kind of videos to be honest with you because I I I happen to think that if you took a cross-section of people from all over the Muslim World you'd find very different points of view you'd find people who were way more liberal than that guy uh and I think it's because people are living their lives they don't even have time to go to mosque just like you see with Christians just like you see with Jews there's a great deal of debate I think the problem with the Muslim world today is most moderate Muslims and that's most are just silent okay but what does that mean though means say what he's saying on stage when he's asking are you are you regular Muslims and if you are regular Muslims raise your hand they raise their hand if you believe that the message that's in the Quran is the correct way to handle any situation raise your hand if you believe that it's the way to handle adultery raise your hand and they're all raising their hand those are real people they're not real people I don't know who those people are I don't know where that is does that mean I don't know I don't know who those people are I don't know where that is I don't know what the context is I mean I don't think that's a good example a room full of people how can you say they're not real people because a room people full of people like that In that clip is not a not necessarily a good representation of most Muslims it just isn't you know I think there are problems with Islam like any other religion I think there are problems with certain populations of of Muslims who have been isolated there's a lot of there might be a lot of ignorance in certain parts of the world like the Middle East where there isn't a lot of money or exposure to other ideas yes but I I think that that is that is very anti-islamic and very slanted in its own way wait a minute what is just just taking not I'm not saying you are I'm saying when you if you took that and you look at one video and decide that's how
Muslims think in general I think it's a mistake well first of all this video is a pro-islam site that put this video up this video is put up by Islam net video islam.nu no I've read the Quran they are but but all I'm saying is this is not a propaganda video this is a pro-islamic website that's putting these videos out I understand all I'm saying is that that that to me that that video to me leaves non-muslims with the impression that all Muslims are extreme and what I'm saying is I don't believe that they are I I mean this country a Christian country for for all intents and purposes puts a great number of people to death and we have a lot of people on death row for for crimes especially the state is nonse it's a secular thing it's not done because of religion when you put people in jail or kill them because of murder you're not doing it because it's in the Bible but our justice system is very much based on the notion that everybody's have the same moral worth which is a Christian idea yeah but because it's a Christian idea it's not based on the Christian faith meaning you have to be a Christian to ascribe to it like these ideas are this is very like no one's say that God says that we should people for adultery so we have to K people for adultery in this country like we're talking about crimes against other human beings that's the reason why people are killed in this country I mean when you're killing someone in Texas for murder you're not doing it because it's a crime against God what what you're seeing in that video is a religion you're you're seeing a representation of a religion are there more moderate representations of that religion unquestionably there certainly are but at what point in time what is the religion then I mean if becomes more moderate and be if you don't ascribe to certain things that are in this ancient text that tell you there's very clear laws and rules that you're supposed to abide by that's the question that's a very good question what is the religion then what is a religion at all if you just decide well we're going to morph it because it's 2014 and we think that the new evidence shows that homosexuals are actually born and it's not their fault it's just a part of genetics and it's part of life
itself it's like having red hair or a big nose you some people are gay really good question and I think that I think in my opinion I think you could you could identify as a Christian as a Muslim as a as a Jew and not hold all the tenants of that particular religion but why then what is a but are you just a human that just accepts you you pull and choose and pl people do it all the time right but what is that then how are you a Christian you you're not subscribing to the full ideology you're you're you're not a fundamentalist yeah but what are you then you're you're you're a Believer who believes in the in not in the letter of the law but rather in the symbol in the IDE in the suggestion and the idea that we can reach to be as good as we can be and that some laws that were written 15,400 years ago in this case or whatever I think that's how long AG was are outdated because science Etc is starting to show us that a lot of those laws do not hold relevance in our everyday lives and in fact are probably unethical or immoral but isn't that completely fascinating when you look at all these different countries that do believe that if you leave Islam you are you're a dead person you should be killed if you commit adultery you're a dead person you should be killed I mean there's a bunch of different things if you're homosexual you should be killed with robs very important questions to ask and very important for the Muslim world to debate and they're going through that debate right now just like Judaism and Christianity went through that debate I mean how many people were burned at the stake in in in the name of of you know witchcraft uh in in Salem and all over Europe for that matter because they were not what what good Christians um you know so so I think I think this is a product of a religion you know I think actually that these debates and the questions you're asking which are also being asked in the Muslim world are crucial because it's how a religion you know it's it's the it's the process a religion must go through and contend with it's got to favor or oppose making Sharia the law of the land this is the percentage of Muslims who favor making Islamic law the official law in their country ready for this Afghanistan 99% Pakistan 84% Bangladesh 82% Iraq
91% Palestine 89% Morocco 83% I mean these are crazy numbers Niger in subsaharan Africa 86% a lot of those countries I would I would imagine are also very poor and I don't know how they're polling but I think a lot of those those countries when you've got nothing you turn to religion and the way you solve that problem is Commerce yeah right it is it is a scary thought though that we're in this part of the world there's a giant chunk of human beings that have these ideals I mean these These are ideas that are incredibly common in giant chunks of the world millions of people and when you're talking about what a religion is and there's so many moderates well what is this religion then I mean if there are moderates who don't believe that you should be stoned to death who don't believe that you should be killed if you leave who don't believe you should killed should be killed with rocks if you're an adulterer what is that religion then I mean at what point in time does it sort of dwindle off does it go away do well Iraq is a good example like that statistic is very surprising to me and I'm not sure I believe it because Iraq was remember it was basically under sdam husin you weren't really allowed to even bring a quan to school or to a public place it was you know the Shia way are are are a little bit more religious in some ways than than the than the Sunni although that's that's a big actually with Isis those are they're they believe in wahab and W wahab and wahhabism and stuff but um I I I think that you know Iraq from what I understand was essentially um they were baist which was the idea was that you were secular that that that all Arabs should band together and there should be sort of this belt of Arab Unity uh which was what uh NASA was trying to do in Egypt etc etc unify the Arabs under one sort of but but Saddam Hussein was very sort of until later on was very anti- Islam in a lot of ways that was a secular Nation it was a secular Nation before we invaded it and now it's a civil war between two varying sects of Islam yeah it's it just to me I think that ideologies are very dangerous and rigid ideologies that are thousands of years old are the most dangerous 100% speaking of seventh heaven oh boy
there's a show that Brian used to be on godamn um a religious show right I mean I I have to pee cuz I want to talk about this this is very important go ahead go go do your little squirt and we'll we'll talk about this because uh this is [ __ ] really spooky stuff um there was a show called seventh heaven and uh Brian was on it um he uh I don't remember the exact nature of the show but it had something to do with religion um he so anyway this guy whose name is Steven Collins uh he played a pastor on this show sth Heaven he confessed to his estranged wife that he was a child molester and it's all on tape apparently um she recorded they were having meetings with a counselor and um she recorded him talking to this therapist and she was asking him all these questions about these incidents and uh he was very specific about the answers and she taped the therapy session and apparently it's legal to secretly record a conversation because in California you're allowed to secretly record conversations to gather evidence that the other person committed a violent felony and molesting a child under the age of 14 is considered a violent felony this is amazing stuff um they there was uh he confessed to molesting an 11-year-old girl a relative of his first wife it's so sick man he I mean he was talking in in in great detail about these things uh he he did it a few times this one girl when she was 11 12 or or 13 and um this guy I me he was playing a pastor it's just I it's it's really sick stuff well what's what's crazy is that I I have on my acting reel there's a scene with him and I doing this scene it's one of the best scenes I ever did and it's really weird because I knew him really well I know him very well and you know usually when you read about this you go well that guy that guy's that guy should be put in jail right away and all that stuff and it's an interesting thing because I've been thinking about it like I feel like and I want to be careful how I say this cuz I know him well I feel like this is a this is a a guy who's a good guy with a sickness like a like a compulsion and a sickness So when you say good guy I I think that I think that I don't know man I I I'm I just I find myself shaking my
head and scratching my head but I know Stephen well and I think I think it's possible is it possible that you are you you mean good to everybody your fellow man yet you have a compulsion and a sickness that you don't know what to do about and this article that I was reading to you about in uh we were on the plane and there was an article in the New York Times written about pedophilia and how a lot of pedophiles have these urges they don't act on them they live in fear they have no control sometimes and this woman was saying if those people because all of us want to punish somebody like that right the minute we see that I have daughter you have daughter it's like I don't want that guy on the street I don't want that guy near kids we understand that and we all go we got to get that guy in jail but there's a bigger question to say and that is this if you have these feelings you're a pedophile and you have these feelings you just have these urges is shouldn't there be somewhere for these people to go where they can where they can say I'm having these feelings I need help because I feel like I'm going to touch a child that seems to be creating a place for those people to go and somehow seek help I feel is more important than if they if they if they if they don't have anywhere to go for help and they know if they go anywhere they're going to lose their job they're going to lose their life and everything else they're not going to go anywhere they're going to touch a kid so the the end results here is we got to figure out a way so less kids get you know molested right right it raised a very difficult debate and question which is if this is indeed a sickness and and there's a lot of evidence that maybe it is even neurological like there's an overwhelming number of pedophiles that are left-handed an overwhelming number of pedophiles that um have trouble with spatial relationships this was in the New York TS article that you were reading on the plane yesterday which so fascinating this came out today yeah and then here's this friend of mine who I really really like I mean I he's a he's just funny and and does a lot of work for charity he's got kids of his own well apparently it wasn't just one instance the the LAPD is reopening an investigation from 2012 uh where his uh
a niece of a neighbor yeah and he I guess he admitted it to his wife and then he went to counseling well I talked about it while you went in the bathroom and it was all recorded by his wife and the recording is legal because he was uh doing a violent crime it's it's awful man it's really awful man I don't know I'm just I'm shaking my head I don't know but I do think that it it's a very important debate to have is if it's considered if it's a mental a form of a mental illness should they have somewhere to go to say hey I have these urges I don't want to touch kid please help me it should there be a safe haven for pedophiles to get help so that they don't touch children or at least it lowers the chances that they will T touch children that's the difficult question to ask yeah it's it's some scary [ __ ] you know to think that you could be a person that is in all other ways a normal person but like a crackhead around crack they're compelled like you you have an alcoholic and you set a glass of whiskey in front of them and you pour a glass of whiskey I mean they're drawn to that whiskey it's like a sickness but that whiskey is not hurting anybody other than themselves when you see someone who's pedophile and they're drawn to children we we tend to lose all of our sympathy and all of our understanding and it's because we want to protect our people you know we want to protect our family children but could you imagine I mean I'm not being sympathetic towards child molesters I mean believe me I am the least sympathetic I I have a very Primal urge to break his [ __ ] head open with a rock right but imagine being as poor [ __ ] I mean what is it about him that makes him want to go to this 11-year-old girl and put her hand on his dick Jesus Christ it's [ __ ] but I was on that show for 2 years I worked with them what was the premise of the show was all American family like basically the premise was this is the perfect family and they're an example for everybody he was the minister and the father and he had a he had a wife and and children uh and uh and I played this I remember I my first scene I played this alcoholic who comes back in this kid Peter's life and he he counsels me you know I'm a real a-hole and he counsels me and you know
and and I really got to know him cuz we had so many scenes together and spent a lot of time did a reading for him I've talked to him on the phone about sag and all kinds of stuff and it's just [ __ ] it's just I don't know man so this is confirmed [ __ ] I never would have thought that dude like you know what I mean that's the other thing like some people you go there's no way of course that's a that's a good person who I'd leave my kid with that you know anyway I it's you just don't know you don't know man you don't know what goes on the inner recesses of someone's brain but I do think I do think this is a case if there's ever been one I don't know anything I'm not an expert but of of of a good person with a sickness you know of a guy I don't know man I don't know I'm just I'm just I don't even know what to say about it it's dark it's dark [ __ ] dark scary awful stuff and then I started thinking about other things that are really hard to even talk about like like there's what is and there's molestation of a child we already know what it does to most people the revulsion and what you want to do and then there are different levels of molestation that nobody really talks about touching and then actual sex right right and one I would imagine and I have to believe is way more traumatic than the other yeah um I don't know how the law sees it but you know the guy's life is done I think SE it's sex is sex I mean I think the law sees it like if you're involving genitals and touching I mean it's one thing if there's sexual misconduct though and then there's assault right so one is penetration I think and the other they're calling this violent sex and that's the reason why she was allowed or he rather uh the the woman rather his wife I was right the first time she was allowed to record him in these counseling sessions is because it's violent sex but what what is violence that's where it violent crime not violent sex but it falls under the umbrella of violent crime right but what is violence isn't violent I thought violence is like trauma I thought violence is like aggression if if someone takes your hand and gently puts it on their dick it's awful right obviously evil but is that violent
because if he is dating a woman and he takes his hand and or takes her hand and put puts it on his dick that's not violent right or is it thought to be violent if she didn't want him to do that here mean I mean if she resists like so let's say let's say he's with a woman they go back to his place they're having a glass of wine they're just talking and he put takes her hand and he puts it on his dick and you know and she resists and then he lets go is that violent or what if he takes her hand and he puts it on his dick and she struggles the whole way that's violent but if she doesn't resist at all and she just goes he was being inappropriate or assuming yeah what what is what's violent I mean the word violent's a weird word I mean I guess we're kind of having atics no you're not you have to no violence because first of all I think there is a difference between anal rape and and vaginal rape and being touched I was when I was a kid in Camp I was 11 I was I guess technically molested by my camp counselor who was an old man in his 40s and he was touching me and fondling me I woke up and he had his hand in my pants he was playing with my my you know my piece gag my gag and I remember going I remember being 11 going this is weird man he's got a beard and he smells weird and he's touching my wiener I don't think this makes sense so then I tell my friend John and Donnie I go hey did did he touch you down there and my friend Donnie goes yeah he sucked me down there yeah and then my buddy John goes he touched me too so I go I'm going to tell my mom and I marched but my mother was coming for parent weekend I was away at camp my mother came and I I went right up to her I go hey that guy touched my dick he sucked Donnie's dick and he touched John's and my mother went right to the camp and the guy back then this was probably I don't know what was it 1978 or whatever he got fired and just sent on his way there was no criminal yeah it was it sent on his way and when they told his wife he was married when they told his wife his wife laughed and said oh God he's up to that again yes and my mother told me that oh my God yeah his wife laughed and said he's up to that again yes she was the arts and craft counselor she had short hair anyway but isn't it strange how much our attitudes about those types of things
have changed really really radically CH well I think because we people are more open to talk about it and talk about the damage it did when they were kids and I think but I'm the point I'm raising is that it all depends on the circumstances the level of molestation and what kind I don't think that damaged me but I don't I can't speak for this girl look at me you're a mess who am I talking a mess it all from it all came from that a beard and a hand that's it but you do have to have that conversation about levels of degree because if you don't then it's not fair to people who are really raped and you know I mean who are vaginally and anally and all that other stuff there's a difference well that's why this whole Yes means yes law which was recently passed in California is is kind of offensive to people that have actually been raped if you don't know this law the idea being that a lack of resistance does not equal consent and you must get consent and so if someone thanks for taking all the romance out of sex by the way [ __ ] AOL it's crazy but but I guess I kind of see why they're doing it I kind of see that they don't want someone to feel like they were overwhelmed by someone and they didn't know what to do and they couldn't say anything and so they think that by forcing people to say yes I want to have sex with you that this would but do also feminists want to be able to withdraw consent after the fact if they feel like they were tricked so they they want be able to cry rape if you manipulated and lied to them like said I love you make love to me and they you have sex and I don't love you you [ __ ] Dum no I'm not no that's that's a real tenant of some forms of radical feminism they they want to be able to withdraw consent after the fact well those lunatics can say what they want but here's what I this is why I think that's lunacy and why I think it's so insulting if you're gang raped you're held down by a stranger app now there's a couple apps for the iPhone uh there's one called good to go what is this one is that good to go yeah you like I don't even know if it does it work on fingerprints or something like that what does it work on you use your fingerprint yeah some of them work on fingerprints gross and you have an app
and I have an app and you click yes and I click yes and what are we doing you know well that's that that that's [ __ ] lunacy in my opinion and and I think it's a real insult to people who've been held down and raped by strangers or or somebody they know in a violent manner you know it's there are I do think that there are times when somebody can be you know that a woman is so overwhelmed she she doesn't know what to say and she gets raped I'm not a woman I don't know what the [ __ ] goes on okay and it's 100% I understand that there's date rape and all that stuff well there's also times where you really wish you said no and you don't like when it's happening and you don't know what to do and you just sit there and a guy has sex with you yes but I don't know what that is is that sexual assault how how is the man supposed to know if you don't say anything there's there's that and if you do say something and the man continues well that's rape right if you say please stop take you know don't take my pants off don't have sex with me and the guy does it anyway we both agree that's rap yes so what but then there's a problem with they're trying to say that if you're consuming alcohol I had thus Russell in the podcast okay he's a professor at accidental accidental college or university we never figured it out it's a college College okay he was a professor at this college where these two kids they were both freshmen they were both young they got drunk they had sex and the girl decided that it was rape because she was drunk when they had sex meanwhile on her text messages she's sending a text message to her friend um she send a text message to him he's saying come over here she says do you have a condom he says yes she texts her friend I'm about to go have sex she went over to his house she had sex with him and then afterwards the college decided that this was rape because she was intoxicated but he was intoxicated too they're both intoxicated they're communicating back and forth with each other but somehow or another he's responsible for his actions he was expelled from college she wasn't it sounds like like people who hate men it's feminism yeah that's a big part of what some feminism is not all feminism a lot of feminism is just striving for equality representation yes in that
sense but the real problem is one of the women at oxal college that thus Russell referenced who counsel this this girl said that he fits the profile ready for this for being a rapist because he came from a good family because he's a valid torian and because he's on a sports team wow wow wow that's terrifying be an underachiever I guess and then you won't be a rapist but how terrifying is that that he's privileged because he comes from a good family that he's on a sports team so he Embraces the jock culture of of of sexual assault and that which jocks don't but whatever well whatever you know and that he's a valedictorian so because he's successful he's got this like drive to succeed which could lead him to being a rapist Jesus Christ what the [ __ ] he got expelled he got expelled he's suing and there's a big loss but look his life is changed her life has changed both their lives are changed and it's what happened they got drunk and they [ __ ] man and thus Russell had a really good point that I've always said is that one one of the problems with women and sex is that we have this idea still in our heads a lot of people do that sex is a bad thing and that a man having sex with a girl the girl he's done something to her taking something from her and a lot of it comes from a bunch of [ __ ] idiots that think that a woman having sex with a man is a bad thing she gets shamed for it so she feels bad for being shamed for having sex and so she equates that with her having been like a crimes been committed on her because people will make you feel bad because you you oh that guy [ __ ] you oh you loser like no you had sex you're normal you're alive you're a person you have hormones it feels good you did it because you wanted to do it men and women do it and our Puritan values and our ridiculous Notions completely unequal that a woman can have sexual experiences with a guy and more than one man and she's a [ __ ] [ __ ] but if a guy does it he's a stud it's stupid it's stupid and it's all based on Puritan values and it's a lot of it's based on the time before birth control B disease when you didn't have antibiotics you had to be very careful who you had sex with but birth control a big one a woman having this these responsibilities that she has to worry about becoming impregnated you know where a guy can
just [ __ ] shoot loads all [ __ ] willy-nilly till the cows come home and not worry about a goddamn thing happening to his body a woman has to be concerned every time she has intercourse that she might have to raise a child drop out of school or have an abortion those are those the the real cold heart facts and so this this ground is very uneven but now you add in birth control which is like a lot of people believe like one of the radical changes in society in this culture was in the 1950s when they invented or 60s when they invented B when did they invent birth 50s or 60s one of those believe it but a massive change massive change in the way human beings interacted males and females because all of a sudden the women's Liberation movement happened women were allowed to have sex and not worry about constantly having to worry about being impregnant and having babies with these dudes well they just wanted to [ __ ] there were just young people wanted to live their life and wanted to to do what their hormones were telling them to do to enjoy it it's one of the great fun things in life is a man and a woman having sex and this idea that two people having sex if they're drunk is rape the problem with it is it's only rape for the girl it's not rape for the guy no one is ever going to argue that if a guy and a girl get together and they have a couple of drinks and the girl gets on top of the guy and has sex with him that the guy got raped no one is ever going to argue that you can't take it to court you'll be laughed out of court so that's really unfair and really uneven and it's a response to the really unfair and really uneven even views that we have about men and women and their sexuality you think right now we're seeing a pendulum we're seeing the high end of the pendulum right and it's going to come back and even out yeah well we're we're seeing a reaction I mean we're seeing a reaction to the sex that's been marginalized that females have been marginalized that they've been oppressed and then look rape is [ __ ] real as [ __ ] man like we were in Alaska and one of the things that we talked about we're in Alaska with people that live there is how many people get raped up there and that these women women who live in Alaska you're dealing with high rates of alcoholism you're dealing with
isolated populations and you're dealing with a lot of rape well because very few women very few women to to men a lot crazy like s to one seven men to one women so girls if you looking for dick Alaska Alaska a lot of a lot of rugged men did you ever see they have those posters like the men of like calendars used to sell the gals the men of Alaska and dudes with [ __ ] cowboy hats and giant dongs sitting there with a fly fishing pole I like to fish and [ __ ] well that's a funny thing about pornography when it comes to women like some women enjoy watching men and women have sex but very few women like Playgirl like play girl looking at guys [ __ ] yeah that's for dudes okay Playgirl is for [ __ ] dudes if you're a guy and you pose for Playgirl you're doing gay porn sorry I know you don't want to think no no no bro bro [ __ ] girls are liberated man they like Al more women are watching more more women apparently are watching porn like dude I I looked at one playg girl once once just once had a gun to my head uh and a guy was like doing like what's that baby happy baby position you're lying down your feet are up in legs are bent he was holding his feet and his [ __ ] [ __ ] was like 3/4 hard because you're not allowed to show hard [ __ ] in those magazines cuz hardcock is hardcore pornography very strange soft dick when I was a kid porn you weren't allowed to show hard-ons you had to show like semis only semis it was very strange so like all porn scen where guys like they were making pastries they were all like squeezing the base of their dick like they were trying to write happy birthday with their [ __ ] it's like that was that was all porn that was all all magazines there was no like penetration in magazines now you got red tube and xx NX and all that [ __ ] oh it's changed like our our ability to view sex has changed so radically that people apparently especially kids are engaging in way more sex way more sex early and also the kind sex watch on TV cuz they think a lot of the women think they have to girls think they have to keep up with the boys fantasies because they've been watching all this porn and boys get really bored too apparently you know I've heard I've read studies or heard about studies where a lot of boys will um like when
you and I were growing up just seeing a naked girl we weren't looking at imperfections we were like holy [ __ ] [ __ ] she naked boys now have access to you know these women that have been surgically enhanced and photoshopped and all that stuff and with makeup and and you know their linear their their appreciation for linear lines and you know all that stuff is is way more heightened they're way more picky and so a lot of women they'll kind of start they'll go with one girl and then they'll go to the next girl and there's a lot more of that apparently I don't know yeah apparently it's it's I it's amazing though that we we have all these weird Hang-Ups in this day and age when it comes to sex and I think a lot of it has to be because it's like sexual attraction is not an even thing I mean have you ever been around a woman who is not sexually attractive but she has a friend who's sexually attractive there's a lot of the women who are non-sexually attractive get [ __ ] aggressive they don't like men they try to keep men away from their friend and they try to protect their friend but under the guys but it's not they're [ __ ] blockers they're hardcore [ __ ] blockers because they're angry that they're not sexually attractive and a lot of it is just a [ __ ] genetic roll of the dice like you have perfect bone structure your nose is the perfect shape your body's perfect shape and everybody's gravitating towards you but you go to the person on the left and this person they're you know their dad was goofy looking their mom was goofy looking and you know and then they made goofy looking kids and it's just there's nothing that goofy looking kid can do about it but you know when you're talking about these these radical feminists who are coming up with these laws or whatever again this is this is The Lunatic Fringe this is an example of we can bring it back to the to the Islam debate you know yeah there are I believe that these people are unreasonable and there are a lot of people in religion that are unreasonable and and I think that that these feminists who are pushing these laws are very similar to the to fundamentalists they are religious in their own way they have their own Orthodoxy their own fundamentalism their own very strong
ideas of what rape is and rape is anything anything that they deem it to be in this in this case they put rape they put uh somebody who didn't necessarily say they want to have sex on the same ground as somebody who is violently raped by some stranger in a parking lot at knife Point whatever and it's the same kind of human com some people have this need to be unreasonable to be fundamentalist in their beliefs and and it is in in its own way a prison of belief it is very ilar to the kind of uh in this in the case we were talking about with Islam the very similar mindset as a Islamic fundamentalist well there's a lot of people are angry look there's a lot of men who are angry at women okay the angry male Movement Like There's the men's Rights Movement there's a a lot of those guys are [ __ ] very angry at women there's a lot of the pickup artist movement oh God those guys there's a lot of them not all of them but a lot of them that I've read forums I've listened to these guys talking videos there's a lot of them that are clearly angry with women and one of the big arguments one of the big U the big points of contention the big things they're pissed off about is them not being attractive to women because women want money women want status women want good-looking guys they want this they want that so these pickup artists are showing you ways to circumnavigate that ways like there's this one video where this guy had long hair and he's trying to be like cool guy he's like I don't give a [ __ ] if you're wheelchair saw have you seen this video you how to [ __ ] yeah somebody he want he wanted to be in my podcast I was like it was [ __ ] Preposterous he's disgusting and what the this idea is based on the fact that there's some people that just women don't find attractive and they feel like it's not fair so they go out they try to pick they're going to manipulate their way into her pants well they're trying to because otherwise they're not going to get in there they're just not you know and why one of the reasons why a lot of this is an issue and this is what's really [ __ ] up prostitution is illegal and prostitution should be [ __ ] legal you know and if prostitution was legal and it was sanctioned and women were tested you'd have an outlet you would
have an outlet and men would wouldn't have to like feel always that there's no way anyone's ever going to touch them that's true that's everybody wants to think there's something awful and terrible about prostitution look I don't want my daughter becoming a prostitute but guess what I don't want my daughter working at Wendy's either I don't want my daughter being a waitress if someone can give you a massage and a massage is totally legal what is a massage it's someone they don't want to touch you okay they're touching you cuz you're paying them and you feel good when they touch you why is that okay but jerking you off is not okay in Asian countries they don't feel that way and a matter of fact in a lot of those countries massage with a jerk off at the end is a natural part of massage or what about just a woman who who who is willing to for a certain price [ __ ] you she she's in command of her own body she's willing to engage in a transaction with you an economic transaction you want to touch this no problem it's on my terms no problem ille and why can't she make her rate why why can't she say look if you want to have sex with me if you're kind to me and you're nice I will have sex with you I want $5,000 right you know and she can have sex once a month and that's it and she doesn't have to work for the rest of the [ __ ] month she gets all of her bills paid and she's done right where no you're right sorry but why is that it's it's but it's the idea being that that person is a sicko but we were talking about um dominatrixes while we were uh in in Camp and one of the things we were talking about was uh like how weird it is that people like a lot of like really rich and powerful men especially pay to get dominated by women like women will tie them up and [ __ ] rope their balls to the ground and all that [ __ ] you were talking to me about and that's okay like somehow another that's okay like that falls because the guy is kind of being brutalized like it's okay even if it's like sexual it's okay it's like weird MH but if it's just straight sex you know if the woman puts her mouth in the guy's penis for 10 minutes ejaculation I guess or whatever is yeah it's just well that had doesn't that have it its origins in religion religion
yeah and so again this is nature of this country right and so that that again is what I'm saying about we live in a very religious country in many ways and whenever you look at Islam or you look at Christianity I believe that the majority of people from any religion if you really talk to them they we have a lot more in common Americans have a lot more in common with I bet I bet a lot of the average Arab on the street or Afghan if you really get him alone a lot more in commmon than you think I mean my God we want Mo I guarantee most of them want some saying who governs them most people have doubts about their religion most people don't want to see people suffer and be hurt even though their religion might say you should Stone somebody etc etc most people are reasonable most people are that way and and it is the loudest Lunatic Fringe that tends to sway the debate look at this country look at the parties the Republican and Democratic party look at look at who really gets all the headlines it's the loudest [ __ ] yeah and it's also if you grew up in that environment the reality is if that was your standard of behavior if you around people like those guys in that video you know how many of you belong to regular mosque if you if you around that guy you'd be like that guy that's the reality is we imitate our atmosphere or you or you would assume the position when you're in church then you go about your day and life is busy and you're like you know and in that sense uh I can see I I I totally see this pendulum swifting shifting back and forth and this this Yes means yes I I kind of see the origins of it and I kind of see like I see the whole thing from a a larger perspective but I just feel that as human beings trying to engineer our society that what we should really be trying to do if it is at all possible is approach each other and approach these situations with kindness and compassion and love and dignity and and friendship the idea that we we could establish friendship and establish that people who are in certain situations do things that they regret whether it's a woman getting drunk having sex with a guy she didn't really want to have sex with after the fact when she realized like what have I done and and but let's let's approach this with compassion
let's understand let's let's counsel these people to not get drunk and make poor choices let's not turn the men into rapists or use that term where there are real rapists there are people that [ __ ] hate women and they want to hold them down and put a knife to the neck and [ __ ] them just so they can say they did it cuz they're evil [ __ ] those guys should be in jail but the guy who gets drunk and has sex with a girl who says uh do you have a condom and the guy says yes and then text her friend I'm coming over uh I'm going to go have sex with this guy that's not rape it's just it's just not called personal responsibility and to say that this young 18-year-old guy is supposed to have more responsibility in that scenario than the 18-year-old girl is totally sexist completely it's unfair illogical unfair and evil it's evil that's really sexist I mean that's like one of the most sexist approaches to two human beings enjoying each other's company that I could even imagine because you're dealing with a completely even scenario a guy and a girl communicating that they want to be together the girl communicating to her friend she's about to go have sex saying I'm going to go have sex now you know Francis fukuyama who's the is like you know Herald is this incredible um intellectual just wrote this book now it's coming out and you know he just he said that that if you look at history it's it's been man's man's quest for dignity like every culture every person like that that's what people really strive for as Nations as people just the idea that they want some dignity they want some governance over their own body they want fair play they want to be heard they want to not be humiliated all those things and it's kind of an interesting thing if you think about it under under one word what human beings really that human history has been sort of a March and a quest for dignity by peoples and by individuals we're trying to engineer a more idealistic Society slowly but surely from the Dark Ages onto 2014 from the beginning of writing [ __ ] down on animal skins trying to establish a set of moral principles based on the word of God or Allah or Buddha or whoever the [ __ ] you want we're trying to figure out a way to do things better and that's what we're still doing and so a law like this the
means yes what are they trying to do they're trying to stop sexual assault on campus which is a real issue I I agree so are we yes right but but it's a question of what your methodology is and whether you're creating more damage than good whether you're being fair in this or not and I think that's where the debate has to start what what is the common goal we don't want people to be raped we all agree with that if you're a reasonable person and a good guy and now the question is what's the best way to do that but how can anybody ever think that getting people to say you know say okay do you want to have sex with me yes I want to have sex that's the only way to do it gross what about I want I want romance man what happened to movies yeah what about the fun of it like oh holy [ __ ] look what we're doing this is crazy the fun of kissing and then a girl reaches and grabs your dick and you're like I can't believe that's the best you didn't say are we going to have sex now there was no conversation someone just you're kissing a girl and she just grabs your dick it's one of the greatest moments in life she's down it really is one of the greatest moments in life when you're not sure sure what's going to happen you're young kissing I was on a date once with this girl and she was I thought it was done I thought wow whatever I took on a date and I was trying pulling out all the stops you know talking about this that lying about celebrities I know etc etc it was all going well but she was like not impressed and so finally I was like all right so it was in New York City I was going to put her in a cab and she goes you put me in a cab and I went what do you mean she goes so that's it you put me in a cap you're you're wimping out I was like never mind cab driver we're going up to my place I was like yeaw those are the some of the greatest moments of your life as a young man yeah those are some [ __ ] good times when it all works out I mean there's there's ones that work out terribly there's ones that you get together and you know you know one person says something stupid and the other person says something stupider and you're like oh [ __ ] we're in a [ __ ] Quagmire yeah no one's getting out of this it's ain't going to work yeah mean personalities clash and it's you know
doesn't always work but when it does work God it's magic and to try to quantify that magic with a a conversation of consent and people say well your romance is not as important as a woman's sexual sovereignty and you need to establish him shut up the [ __ ] the the really gross voices in this or not even the women because I think fundamentally a lot of women probably have a really hard time understanding the male urge just like fundamentally a man has a very difficult time truly conceptualizing the idea that a woman wants to get pregnant you know the the urge to have a baby grow in your body is fundamentally a very difficult thing for a guy to wrap his head around yes and so when a woman wants to like do something that's illogical to sort of regulate male sexuality I almost kind of understand it I almost kind of look at it and I go well yeah I guess they just don't they don't maybe they don't know what it's like to be a man you know right but when a man steps in and starts saying a bunch of really illogical [ __ ] when a man starts being like taking radical feminist points of view that [ __ ] becomes very offensive to me because then that's when I know what you're really doing is you're you're trying to earn favor right you're trying to establish this really unusually moral position social brownie social brownie points social brownie points hash social brownie points hash male feminists and you know I mean look again we both have I don't want to call them feminists but we both have what we' call humanist values like I think absolutely everyone should be treated equally in in in the law but we're not equal in society we're just not just like we're not equal you and I are stronger faster whatever yeah some people are smarter just the world is weird man some people are tall some people are short some people are sexually attractive some people people are not we're not equally funny some people are not [ __ ] funny they never will be some people suck at math I'm one of them some people you know there's like a lot of [ __ ] that's just not fair it's just the world the world is weird and when men come along and they want to establish some some weird fake male Behavior rules and I know what they're doing when I know what they're doing
when I know they're saying things they're making videos about like that we talked about it on the thus Russell podcast that dear woman video you ever see the dear woman video oh you've never seen it either no for real it's a Jamie pull it up one more time one one more time just to for the folks at home that may not have seen it it's these guys who no woman in their right mind would ever want to touch and these guys oh those guys are the greatest women have you seen it yes yes seen that never mind those guys are the perfect you don't have to show thank you for your strength yes thank you for your wonderful characteristics we apologize for all the men who have treated you poorly like what choking you when you ask to be choked when you get [ __ ] there's reality those those men are traitors those men are gender traitors and all of them to a man or women or or or men that women want to wouldn't want to [ __ ] right that's what they're trying to sit or there's a couple of them that look like players in there they're just taking that you know that stance bad guys impos creepers imposters there's a lot of Creepers out there man on both sides who is it like Dante in in the in The Inferno said he goes that imposters when he created His image of Hell which was a cone inverted cone and the very worst the bottom of the center of the Earth are you know murderers and and and sadistic killers and imposters Impostors are actually down there with them cuns yeah there's a lot of that out there man there's a lot of well there's just a lot of again there's a lot of uneven in the world like there's a lot of people that are these remember when you ever see Peter Schiff when he was at Wall Street and there was a bunch of people that were uh on occupied Wall Street and he had this video Peter Schiff is a brilliant guy Economist and I had him on the podcast fascinating I don't necessarily agree with all of his points of view but he's a very bright man and he knows so much more about economics than I ever will right and he was talking to these people he set up a booth like a stand you know and had a big sign it said ask a one percenter and uh if you've never seen it pull pull that up cuz it's [ __ ] amazing and it's these people that are man but their ideas are so uninformed poorly thought
out and easily picked apart and one of them was like why do you need so much money man he's like I employ 100 people who do you employ how many people do you employ how many people do you help like you're you're asking me why do I need so much money why do I make so much this is capitalism you're a capitalist too you're just not good at it you know like you do you pay money for food do you pay money for rent well then you're capitalist do you get paid for work do you get paid for work yes you get paid for work you're a capitalist like you're just not good at it like this is incredible amazing prot 1% and I agree with the sentiment and I agree with the fact that you should be protesting it's just my point is it's Washington that should be the recipient of the protest you guys should be marching on the White House in the Federal Reserve demanding your freedom back look Steve Jobs just passed away he made billions how many people here have iPhones in their pockets I feel like you what you what you want is he's not a humanitarian he's a business man but he enriched the lives of millions of people pursuing his own self I am not a ramp so that you can do an in front of your camera I actually want to have a conversation the what the 99% to 1% meme was just one meme out of many memes what's a meme I'm I'm so sorry uh a popular turn of phrase okay so the the the the the catchphrase 99% this is not 99% Park it's Liberty Plaza and the 99% catchphrase is not definitive of everyone here it makes sense why a popularity meme would be popular I understand you have to make money but there's got to be regulations because I believe in democracy but I also believe in regulations the market has to grow at a sensible rate right it cannot grow too fast if the market grows too fast it will crash question see the regulation we want is the market that's the regulation that works the same thing is with labor a corporation just can't take advantage of its workers and pay them as little as it wants because businesses compete with one another to buy labor did a corporation end slavery do it did corporations what does slavery have to do with what we're talking about we're saying we're saying what there there is a role for government in our
society and and corporations cannot do anything but slavery was wrong to begin with so let's not even it was government that created government is there to protect property life liberty and that's it you mentioned Walmart so what are you afraid that Walmart's going to do to you what what am I afraid they're going to do what is Walmart do you should go and ask the employees that are working in sweat shop type conditions that don't get enough hours that don't have healthare wait a minute then why don't they quit I mean Walmart doesn't hold a gun to their head if if they can get a better job so why did the rape victim get raped what was she doing out late at night do you want to go back to 1920 1930 what is this golden year that Republicans want to go back to what year the 60s the' 70s here I don't want to go back to that technology but I want to go back to that level of freedom the level couldn't vote at some point African-Americans and and others had to ride in the back of the bus you want to go back there we don't want to go back I'm telling you there's more there's more economic freedom there was more economic freedom social freedom and social justice there's been memorials for Steve Jobs all over the place at every Apple Store every every there's there's reporters that are all around the world that never asked one single question to Steve Jobs when he was alive why are you manufacturing your iPhone in China and you don't have any of your manufacturing here inat do you think that's fair to the American people wait the American people don't own those jobs Steve Jobs has a right to manufacture where he wants he does have a right to do it and the problem is we have made it too expensive for him to manufacture here American workers want too much because we oh it's the government the reason that that that employe employers right want to lower wages is because they custom want low prices everybody in this park wants low prices you can't have low prices no we don't no we don't do you believe that the federal government has a right to to exist and to govern the lives of Amic it has the right to exist but not in the form it exists today it's it's operating outside you believe the EPA should be disbanded I think it does a lot more
harm than good do you believe the FDA should be disbanded I'd like to get rid of it what about the FDA uhhuh the board of the Board of Education what about the Board of Education I want to get rid of the entire Federal Department of educ is our money it is running up the sir what I've learned let me finish what I've learned over the years is to never argue with a fool and you my friend are a fool okay so I'm foolish right so I just stumbled into all my wealth I run all these businesses could you say how could you disend the EPA and the FDA in the Board of Education because it's not the board ofation you're talking about the department of educ did I call call you an idiot no you didn't 30% of the homeless people in America are veterans so when everybody says let we support the troops that's a lie you support the troops when they're out there getting killed or shot but when they come home and they're homeless and they got no jobs you don't support the troop I didn't even and that's why well I didn't even support a lot of these wars that put those troops over there in the first place let me shake your we're agreement this guy great government you wanted to change and all that you guys are the ones at least these guys on Wall Street are the ones that are funding all the campaigns and putting these people in power in the first place and then you do so because you know that they will enact policies that you want and then you also know that once they do that and you become friends with them through campaign fundraising and all that that is the problem that they will let you in the government and you'll be like hey can I can I be Secretary of the Treasury if they had no power there'd be no lobbying they'd have be there'd be nothing to give out we don't want the government to be able to pick winners and losers to say you get a bailout and you don't you get you pay a tax and you get a subsidy that is the problem there's this one guy that I actually wanted you to focus on that was like asking him why do you need so much money like why do you need why can't you make you know $10 million instead of $100 million you're talking about this such an example of of if you hold a point of view it takes a long time to earn it do you care what the bank does with your money when youit it
there do you care about the loans why do you worry might not be in this it might be a different one there's a bunch of these videos out there guty guy I love that he did this though got is it 2 hours yeah oh Jesus Christ yeah it's the wrong one um there was one that was a classic example of like you might be angry I understand but it's exactly the great thorough quote I see men everywhere hacking at the branches of evil while none are striking the root and if you if you want to say something's evil if it's Wall Street if it's big Pharma if it's whatever it's so crucial to to establish what you what kind of evil and the way you figur that out is who is the Real Enemy what is the root cause that's why you've got to read that's why you got to earn your opinion otherwise you're just shouting in the wind and you're only that you can't have a conversation like this where one guy has a microphone and he's going back and forth handing it to you and you and you're doing it in a video clip and you're saying you know I want to end this I want to end that I want to end the Department of Education you're a fool oh okay we didn't get anything done here two people shouting their point of view I mean to really establish what is wrong with the Department of Education you have to have a long nuanced conversation about what they're doing where how they're funded what the problem is how they subsidize College tuition so that it costs so much more for you to actually go to college the reason why it's so goddamn expensive and it would be different if this didn't exist and you know talking to people who know their [ __ ] and reading the right books who make a good argument is is how you get closer at least investigation over some time is how you get closer to figuring out where the real problems lie you yeah it's the emotions that flare up when people start talking about things and they don't really have an educated opinion on them they just go there because they know something's wrong I equated Occupy Wall Street to like white blood cells I'm like they know there's an in an infection so they all circle around this area of infection but it's not noed it's a really really good metaphor for that because you're right it was it was a combination of a lot of things but it wasn't effective it's like
they got there and like there a [ __ ] infection we're white blood cells but nothing really got done other an expo well one thing did get done it it opened up the dialogue but the dialogue was already opened up and people understood the bailout people started pay atten people got went broke and didn't know why yeah you know but but yes it's it's it's why you know there are some very important and very challenging problems in the world and there are people out there that are coming up with good answers but unfortunately and one of the things that's beautiful about a podcast what I try to do with mine and what you certainly do with yours and to very good is that a lot of really good ideas are stuck in books mhm and I think that the technology podcasting if it's done responsibly a lot of other a lot of other venues but espe is how you get those ideas out of those books most of us don't have that much time to read man we don't and I sympathize with that I get it it's really hard to formulate an educated opinion on [ __ ] you and I know that you know like how many opinions did we have when we started doing podcasting and then I'd get corrected on this podcast my podcast I'd come up with with a point of view and say something and people would be like by the way uh you're a little bit wrong on this and I'd go I've been holding that belief for 10 [ __ ] years and when you start to really investigate and try to come up with a really sound strong political philosophy business philosophy life philosophy it takes a lot of [ __ ] work trial error hard it's hard to let go of opinions but don't stop trying to come up with the answer a lot of people do not ever want to let go of their opinions once they have that opinion that [ __ ] is locked in because they form an emotion around it that's why because it's exactly like talking to somebody when you see a religious person talk to an atheist The Atheist says God doesn't exist the religious person goes wait a minute My Religion gives me a feeling and a very good feeling it makes me feel like there's purpose and meaning in my life this guy's attacking that and then it becomes about that it becomes not about religion it becomes you're trying to take the feeling I have away from me [ __ ] you that's why opinions are very hard to let go of yeah it's it's
also when people are having convers Sation a lot of times they're not just expressing each other and exchanging information or expressing themselves exchanging information they're also trying to win you know they're trying to be the one with the correct information they're trying to be the smarter person and sometimes they're doing it about stuff they don't really [ __ ] have any information about but they're still in there swinging like flailing away like a person who doesn't know how to fight who gets in fights I mean have you ever seen a person who doesn't how we all have I've talked about it on this podcast this terrifying scenario That Happened One Night in front of the comedy store where I saw this guy get in a fight with this guy who didn't have any [ __ ] skill at all he didn't know what to do he didn't know how to handle Panic he was he his eyes closed and he was flailing and a bus pulled in front of him I couldn't see what happened you know that because you know they were fighting on one side of the street and the bus blocked my vision and then when the bus passed he was out cold on the concrete Jesus so obviously somebody punched him but the guy didn't know how to fight but yet he was still fighting and some people will get in arguments about some [ __ ] they don't have any information about they don't have nothing but they have a point they have an opinion that and an attitude that based on something that happened to them an emotional thing we all have some of that in us I certainly do and I've worked very hard to try to let go of that [ __ ] when I'm in an argument and I sometimes I have to check myself and go man I'm arguing to be right here because this person's attacking something else inside of me I'm not even aware of or whatever and you see it in relationships I got to I got to check myself in my relationship sometimes we'll just start having an argument and I'm just pissed off and I want to have an argument because I I feel like I want to be right about this subject and when I take a step back a lot of times it's really hard to do but it's really important sometimes you go you know what I actually don't know that much yeah sometimes someone will say something crazy to you and instead of saying wait a minute why' you say you'll say
something crazy back and the next thing you know it's a [ __ ] Avalanche of crazy both of you swinging swinging into the air and emotional and [ __ ] can't breathe good it's also really [ __ ] it's also really important to ident what you mean by x what do you mean by God what do you mean by religion what do you mean by first before we start let's let's know what we agree on and it's I I like politics I love the argument now that I have with politics is this I don't talk about Republican de Democrat liberal conservative I like the question of we know that you need some governance of course you need some governance in a society the debate really revolves around to what percent how much how much do you want government running your lives there's an answer and some people want more there's just an answer to what degree in what aspect it's a complicated question but start the debate and the discussion that way and you'll get further along I like having my mind changed I like having my mind changed I like listening like you were talking the other day and you were explaining like where technology was going and I had a lot of opinions cuz I've been reading the same [ __ ] I was about to jump in with a bunch of my points as well but then I was like wait let me just listen to this and I learned some [ __ ] that I I didn't know before it's a new thing for me man a new thing for you a little bit like to really listen and key into what somebody's saying and say and look for something new and look for something that you might not know instead of trying to add to the conversation hey by the way guys this is something I know as well we all do that we [ __ ] do that all the time everybody does that oh Joe's saying this let me add let me add this to it let me put a cherry on that Sunday for you guys to show you that I'm also knowledgeable and smart you know instead of just keying in maybe not saying anything you know what I like you know I like what answer I like from people a lot of times what do you think of this and a lot of people go I don't know it's a good answer it's a good answer it's very important it's very important yeah being able to say you don't know that's like why is that hard for people it's hard because we equate our knowledge like how much knowledge we have with how strong
we are yeah and I don't know sounds weak our yeah and our personal you know the our personal opinion of ourselves but it we're coming to find out especially in this day and age that's one of the good things about things like Google you can't know everything you cannot I've had [ __ ] conversations with people where they seem fairly intelligent and then they'll say something they'll want to have a conversation about martial arts and they'll say something so off base and so ridiculous that now I have to question everything that they've said before cuz you've just stepped into my world and you stepped into my world acting like you know what the [ __ ] you're talking about I go well how many of these other things you've told me are [ __ ] too that's so disappointing I've had that happen to me where people say something and you go you're really smart at a lot of stuff and you just stepped into a different Arena you're you're a you're in the middle of the ocean with no boat right now it's one of the few things where I'll just completely stop the conversation I go no no stop yeah I just I I get offended when people start talking about like Chi and you know it's about it's about your centering your energy and some people can't be pushed over please shut the [ __ ] up stay in your lane you want to see something amazing though that is real some real martial art [ __ ] that is kind of like magic yes Jamie there's a video on my um uh Twitter feed that's from today and it was from a long time ago from I think it was the 1950s this [ __ ] old man doing Judo with his top students and this old dude is like I don't know how old he is at the time but he's [ __ ] old he's old and it's he he's really frail looking Go full screen on this this is [ __ ] incredible man I mean is is really incredible to watch does it say how old he is in this video here he looks like a Dan preparing to challenge uh's preparing for a challenge with highlevel students now watch watch what the [ __ ] happens man this is a tiny little old man and this isn't [ __ ] okay I know [ __ ] and I know choreography I'm watching this Judo and these guys are really trying to throw this dude but check this out look at this whole dude W amazing just perfect technique look how his legs go flying up
in the air look at this how he resists the technique look at that effortless almost this guy's trying to throw him [ __ ] yeah he is he's trying to throw him but the old man knows exactly how to position himself watch look see go he goes behind the hip every time it's amazing amazing and watch these these young guys these young black belts are watching this this guy is old as [ __ ] he's much smaller but watch how he throws him it's incredible he finds the look at this look at this every time he tries to throw him look at this boom and then he they bow to each other and then the next guy comes along and this guy is [ __ ] tiny man this old dude is I mean I don't know how big the other guy is but he's significantly smaller than the other guy it's hard because we're not standing there in perspective but we're watching this little old man get rag dolled but when he gets picked in the air look at how he just goes with it I mean he look that guy [ __ ] tried so hard and the old man just just flowed with him just got behind his hips and stayed relaxed look at that relaxed stayed relaxed the guy tried to use he's really trying to throw him you can see [ __ ] yeah he is 100% but look at this Boom the old man waits for his moment and throws him I mean it's it's brilliant it's amazing to watch and Judo water man Judo is one of the roughest when it comes to like martial arts on your body so watching this old really old man throw these young cats around is incredibly impressive because of the fact that it's so physically dependent I mean you see like the really great judokas like like look in the UFC like Hector bombard look at that the old dude sent that guy flying oh [ __ ] I mean these are [ __ ] it's incredible right whoa this is [ __ ] amazing look at that look how he goes yeah look how he goes with it when the guy tries to throw him he just just goes he's in perfect position every time well his hips yeah he just his hips are it's positioning look at that boom like I was going to say and these by the way these are man I don't know what kind of floor that is but that's not like modern [ __ ] matted floors like wood It's probably hard as [ __ ] like Hector Lumbard like a physical specimen Ronda Rousey physical specimen and these are
like great judokas that are in mixed martial arts today you know and there's a lot of like their explosion their ability to the distance and execute techniques that can be attributed to this power and athleticism but this old dude ain't got none of that Manz J if you watch it like to in the Olympics it's so explosive it's like boom it's like so quick it's amazing this dude's like water he's literally like a ghost yeah it's it's incredible man it's incredible to watch have you ever seen me dance show up some videos I would I really wish I knew more about this dude how when this was filmed what is this called this uh video it says amazing old Judo throw defense the guy's name is mufi m i Fu NE e accepts challenges from highle students it's incredible look at this that guy really trying of course he is of course he is I mean you could see the effort and he's doing the right thing too I mean the guy who is trying is a [ __ ] high level judoka himself like look how he's throwing these techniques he's trying these hip tosses and he's not getting anywhere with it he's got a ridiculous haircut that guy the old look at this the old guy just he keeps getting behind his hips you see how places his weight every time it's just [ __ ] look at that timing man he can see his opening what are you that guy is a one is a first Dan he's a first-degree black belt and this guy's an eighth degree black belt here but the old man is a 10 so this guy right here is like probably the highest level student that he's uh done it against in this video but it's just it just shows how technique is everything it's so [ __ ] important and athle ISM with great technique is almost unbeatable that's one of the reasons why a guy like Lumbard is so good is cuz he has both of those his technique is I wonder what lumbar would say if he saw this like what point of VI well judokas are very proud of Judo you know like Judo Gan leel is very proud of it Ronda is proud of it you know Judo is a [ __ ] hard martial art man it's hard on the body very difficult to learn and requires a great deal of understanding understanding of the mechanics of the body and and Ronda Rhonda told me she was like 11 and her she broke her toe and she was crying and her mother made her run laps her mother goes you might
break your toe in competition run laps she was just like you know she's a little badass her mother's a hard woman yeah but look what she created oh she created an extreme winner you know what's interesting is Rhonda is going to uh you know she's going to defend her title against uh Kat zingano and if she beats Kat zingano um cyborg is scheduled to fight as 135 pounder for the first time in December in Invicta Invicta was is an all female mixed martial arts league and Cyborg is the 135 145 PB champ she's dropping down to 135 for the first time it's [ __ ] very hard cut but like a lot of these people that maybe did some questionable things that made them get larger maybe something they lose weight and then they become smaller and you know I mean different human being maybe it' be easier for her now to drop that weight I mean I don't I don't know but it's um it's certainly a very [ __ ] compelling matchup cuz cyborg well there was a picture of her and her husband uh from behind and her back was about as wide as her husband's and her husband was a stud I mean he was a wide thick she's a big gal big thick gal but you know if you do hardcore cardio like Marathon running and [ __ ] like that your body will automatically shed you atrophy the muscle you're going to start slimming down change your diet you can force yourself to lose weight I mean you can only force yourself to lose a certain amount and still be athletically competitive but she's still doing strength and conditioning exercises she's still doing all sorts of things that build muscle and if she didn't if she really wanted to drop down to 135 pounds she'd have to diminish her body mass who who that you know fighter wise I was thinking about BJ pen but who you know who's really done the fought in the most drastic weight categories like who DJ is the most DJ fought heavyweight and and then fought featherweight he fought how much the we when he fought heavyweight he fought um he was probably 190 something he maybe maybe he was a little bit heavier than that but when he fought Leota Macha Macha was over 205 so Macha was technically a heavyweight crazy yeah I don't know what Ma WJ is not tall I mean he's short and he's a [ __ ] animal though in his best in his
prime he was a [ __ ] animal yeah um but I think that he's probably the the biggest example of a highlevel guy that's fought I mean in obviously machita went on to be the light heavyweight champion and is a contender right now in the middleweight Division and BJ just fought as a featherweight so it's [ __ ] he's got the most drastic changes was there any followup as to like a lot of people were really surprised by when he was fighting Frank Frank Edgar in this last fight he his feet were so close together and he was on his toes it was very strange yeah was there was there ever an was that ever addressed by him or by anybody else yeah he said he was trying to uh conserve energy and he decided that that was a stance that he was going to adop because in keeping his legs wide and like pushing off with his legs that it would require too much energy he's always had a problem with stamina you know that's that's been his problem he was he was ferocious in the first round of the second fight with Matthews or the third third fight second fight whatever fight he lost second fight third fight he knocked Matthews out he was ferocious in the first round and then ran out of gas in the second Matthews started beating him down in the second round and it was cuz matw was in better shape bj at his best was when he was training with the marinovic because U marinovic [ __ ] were [ __ ] animals when it came to strength and conditioning and they got him in unbelievable shape he was just shredded he had ABS he's fighting 155 pounds he was strong and like when he beat uh Joe Stevenson when he beat uh Diego Sanchez at 155 pounds he was the best he was at his best and he was just in incredible shape he was a monster that but it was conditioning just you know lives a good life he lives on Hawaii he's got plenty of money he's a hero he goes to Hawaii everywhere he goes BJ BJ awesome they love him it's very difficult for a guy that lives in silk sheets to get up and go to war every day that's the reality of life it's hard and a really loved guy who also is supremely physically talented people don't know that DJ you know that nickname The Prodigy it came because he won the World Championships after three years of training Jiu-Jitsu but I've heard other Fighters like Eve Edwards
and those guys tell me that they' seen anybody pick up a technique that quickly so when you're an MMA fighter you know like picking up a technique whatever it might be it takes a you got to drill it takes a long time man it can take up to a year or you know four months five months that dude could see it twice and it was part of his repertoire well he was I don't want to say he was a natural fighter but that was something that he had a lot of passion for and he was very focused about it and it came it came pretty quickly to him but there's a lot of other guys that have uh slowly dropped weight and MC Vitor fought as heavy as 240 at one point in his career when he fought Randy cure I think he was like 240 something ridiculous he's much thinner now man he's now that he's off the trt he you know he's really looking thin it's just like there's been a lot of people always said his frame was like 180 I mean if you look at his hands and feet they're not big no well there's a lot of people that think he can make welterweight especially now that he's off trt yeah yeah there's videos of him working out there's a recent video on his Instagram and uh it went on the underground like people were looking at like they're like seriously I'm not bullshitting I think he could be a welterweight you look at some welterweights like okay here's a perfect example Carlos cond he's a big boy you know look at some of the guys like okay Tyron Woodley Tyron Woodley is a big [ __ ] guy he's thick as [ __ ] and he manages to get down to 170 vtor doesn't look that big not now what is um Carlos cond ofct way you think in the off season he's probably bordering in the the '90s like gets around 190 close to it 15 lbs 20 lb over the weight limit handsome kid too good looking guy yeah he's um recovering from knee surgery tour his ACL against wood he's so damn good Carlos condid is just so good and talk about conditioning that dude will fight a five round fight or I don't know if he had to fought a five rounder think yes yeah he fought GSP as a five round fight and you know he just he just is going practically at the same Pace well we were watching Rory McDonald knocked out TK saffin this week and we were watching the highlights of it Robin my friend Robin black who also has been on the podcast did a breakdown of it and uh
he did an awesome breakdown of it and really highlighted some of the uh the things that Rory did really well in that fight and things that safine did to try to like throw Rory off that didn't work but uh Rory McDonald's another one at 170 that's [ __ ] terrifying and interesting interesting guy man you know was training with GSP for a long time and then as they got further along their career it started getting the talk about like these guys eventually fight now that gsp's retired and he's like one of the number one contenders now he's that was one of the most impressive things I've ever seen his his ability to stand there with safine and beat him at his own game I mean beautiful it's just incredible I mean you look at what safine when safine fight fought Nate marquart how well he did against marquart and then see Rory pick him apart like that it's incredible check the leg kicks St stay on the outside and delivering his own leg kicks I mean God yeah amazing and that jab and that oh just the way he knocked them down with yeah Roy's a [ __ ] it's such an exciting sport but another thing we were talking about in Camp it was really interesting we were talking about um the reality of these guys damaging themselves you know Brian and I were at the airport yesterday in Seattle and we were watching a football game and we don't particularly watch football that often so we're were watching it which just all I could see was these guys heads colliding that's just dun those helmets colliding with each other other and all I could think about was that recent NFL study that showed that 76% of deceased NFL players 76 out of 79 had brain injuries like significant bra 76 out of 79 brains they studied had significant brain injury significant brain damage well then you're starting to see it you see Tony Dorset you see these guys trying Jo Montana trying to talk really yeah he's having yeah he's having issues with his memory yeah um uh what's the [ __ ] guy yeah Brett Favre is having real issues right um Brad far never took a day out I mean Brad farre had the longest run I mean he was the Iron Man I mean he was fighting he was getting knocked on his ass by the biggest toughest guys never broke a bone I mean he's just the Superman got addicted to painkillers I believe for a
while that is no surprise I mean that guy put himself through punishment like no football player I I've ever seen I mean he was who the guy from the Chicago Bears from the 80s uh Jim MC Jim McMahon Jim McMahon's got some serious issues now and he talks about sometimes to be in his house and he have no idea where what he was about to do or where he's going he just doesn't know what he's doing he's just standing there like what am I doing Jesus yeah and he was on a sports radio show and he was talking about it in depth it was cover of Sports Illustrated him and his issues it soured me to the game I'll be honest with you I used to watch football all the time and the more I learn I'm like M I don't really want I don't know what about MMA um because look let's be realistic I feel like it's not as uh it's that I feel like and it's changing cuz of training but but I feel like the head trauma isn't as sustain isn't like football or boxing Am I Wrong yes okay yeah no it's it's um especially because so much emphasis is on standup these days I mean it used to be there was a recent inter interview um with um Dan Hardy and Dan Hardy was talking about uh you know Dan had a heart condition not a real heart like it's it's a very controversial situation where he's very fit and healthy but he has like an extra heartbeat something wolf condition I forget what it's called but he was talking about how when he was fighting it was a lot of wrestlers that were dominating the 170lb division and now there's a lot of kickboxers now you got Roy McDonald now you got you know Robbie Lawler you got a lot of Strikers stand up Strikers you with [ __ ] bombs well guys who can wrestle and they can do all those things but a lot of kickboxing techniques are starting to dominate these contests and when you're training a lot of kickboxing you got a lot of head injuries there's a lot of head trauma that's going on both in training and in fights it's always changing too I mean I I've never seen the block that Rory McDonald was using that never seen that well it's very smart to avoid um strikes to the head especially if you know that a guy is throwing head punches you know and a lot of these guys they're they're not throwing the type of like really long form combinations that you'll see highle Muay Thai or highlevel
Dutch kickboxers throw they're throwing one or two techniques and a lot of it's cuz you're worried about takedowns you're what we're seeing is just an evolution of the game the evve I it I me I'm a huge but it concerns me brain damage is a very very uh it's a very real thing and there's no turning back that's what bugs me the most you blow your you put on [ __ ] could you bigger gloves I mean no that's not going to help that might even hurt actually the solution might actually be no gloves that might be a better solution when it comes to head trauma because you can't hit as hard without breaking your hands you have to be much more selective in the your punch placement you go out faster and weird way too right I mean mhm well I don't know about that I think you probably go out harder and faster with the UFC gloves cuz they pad your knuckles you can punch harder you know and you're also you're supporting the wrist you're taping the wrist down I think um realistically you shouldn't be able to tape your wrists you shouldn't be able to tape your hands and I think that would probably be one of the best ways to protect against head trauma still though it's like you know you know as well as I you put on headgear and you get hit with somebody's wearing boxing gloves you're sparring you get hit you got headgear I wear a bar they call a [ __ ] I got a bar I get hit just in the top of the head I got a headache why because my head got jammed back and my brain was you know mush around I was like what am I do even Sha brenon Sha was like what are you doing you want to do this you're not a fighter you're an actor why are you sparring I was like I don't know I'm an idiot I want to just do this he's like he literally when when an M fighter and he's your friend comes up and goes you don't what are you doing you don't need to do this maybe you should stop Oh you mean I'm 47 yeah okay I think I will well you should go see Brian Ken and see this idiot in action see at its best uh October 161 17 and 18 at the Atlanta Improv and uh yeah it would be awesome do you know who's working with you local guys Leo flowers uh really funny comic coming down the feature for me and uh I'm excited just go to brian.com Brian Ken BR y.com b r y an Callen c a l l en.com and
I'm at the Tower Theater in Philadelphia August October rather 17th with Ian Edwards and I'm at the Warner Theater October 18th with Ian Edwards in Washington DC that's it lots of podcast this week I got honey honey Anthony Kum is going to be here and Keith Weber as well the uh the guy from the kettle bell cardio workout that I that I talk about so much that I love he'll be here so uh until then enjoy your lives my friends and it's great to be back at civilization big kiss see you soon peace