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if you go to that video you can see Henry Ford banging on the fender with a hammer hemp is a crazy plant I mean is literally like it comes from another planet it's so different than anything else if you pick up a Hemp stock it's incredibly light but really hard like a piece of Hemp stock stock like a big thick of a a hemp tree that grew thick and large it's amazing how strong it is it's weird it's like an alien plant you can eat it has all the essential fatty acids the the protein in it is very very digestible um like I said with with on it we try to use the best stuff available but you can buy hemp force or hemp protein rather that's a cheaper variety from many different sources and you can see the difference you can see it and it'll be more gritty um it won't digest as easy Pro probably and it probably won't have as much protein per percentage but it's all good I mean look any hemp protein is one of the best proteins you can get um it's just it has you're going to have less issues digesting it than you will weigh some people have no problem with whey other people more sensitive my wife has way had way protein prior to this one showing up and we were comparing the nutritional values and something I noticed on the hemp was the fiber yeah the fiber compared to the whe well it's plant-based yeah it's like 11 G or something yeah and you know I could I could use the help everybody could use fi it's just good for your body period um anyway we we carry that and a host of other uh healthy snacks and Foods uh like the warrior protein bar which is a uh a bar that's made out of Buffalo uh it's made out of buffalo in this ancient Native American tradition that uses cranberries and Pepper with no antibiotics no added hormones no nitrates and uh totally gluten-free although I don't know why you would have gluten I guess you could maybe put wheat somehow or another in a bar to make it what anyway um what these bars are is essentially just a really healthy protein snack that's totally natural buffalo meat 14 grams of protein and it's based on a recipe that has been in the Lakota Sue Warriors for Century really can't call them Lakota Sue um Lakota is what they call themselves Sue is what other other Indians would call them other Native Americans would call
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substance I don't know cuz coffee was there forever right marijuana before yeah that's probably it isn't that what's happening in Colorado oh yeah it's happening like crazy right Colorado's going off Washington State's going off now too because now they just started selling it so now the same ripple effect the same effect that's happening in Colorado which is they're making way more money than they even planned they had like an idea of how much money they would make and they're making way more way more now I mean well that's something that's been tied up for for too long and I think it makes a lot of sense fascinating what a strange world we live in you know I mean now they have uh have you seen the uh potcoin it is a digital currency based on marijuana my inevit mhm you're going to be able to buy marijuana with this digital currency I think you need your own currency next that's that's when the government comes after you you got to stay low dude JRE coin you got to stay free and unambitious that's true I agree no running for office no no trying to affect policy nothing crazy but maybe coins can become that seriously like where uh communities online could have a coin almost as a reward system for the best participants within that Community well I think ultimately we will have digital currency across the board for a variety of different things and it could be really easy for communities whether it's online communities or towns to set up their own money because I remember there was a town in man I want to say like North Carolina but there was a town that was in the news a while back where um they had decided to make their own digit not digital currency but local currency and it was being talked about on the news and it was like everybody sort of agreed to what things would be worth and they would all have their own you know way of trading goods and selling things and passing it back and forth through each other I think that yeah that like as an online thing that could be everywhere yeah this the decentralization of the power you know why should some person in Missouri be concerned with what guys on Wall Street are doing you know yeah like what what how why is that affecting you are you allowing it to affect you I guess does it have to be all International like
this I don't know there there's smarter people than me that probably probably have a something to say about that but it the when the bailout happened right that was the conversation it was you know dudes in suits taking money away from dudes in plaid shirts do you know who Michael Shermer is no he's famous skeptic was he on the podcast no he hasn't been on the he's a famous skeptic he he wrote this very strange article for scientific am Erica that's been chewed apart and uh uh it's it's interesting because it's like his idea of uh if you like Google Michael shurmer scientific America he apparently writes a uh an article there and he's got this myth of income inequality is like the title of the the article and uh look this is how I know your ideas about Finance are dumb if I think they're dumb this is how I know because I'm clearly dumb that's the L so if I read your dumb [ __ ] and I'm like yo this is some dumb [ __ ] that that's when you know that your [ __ ] is off it's it's really strange it's a a weird analysis of the um of the the situation and uh the idea that here's here's like one quote almost all of our studies participants the the authors concludes grossly underestimated Americans average household incomes and overestimated the level of income in equality so both income inequality and social Mobility though not as ideal as we would like them to be in the land of equal opportunity are not as large and immobile as most of us perceive them he's getting destroyed in the comments yeah whenever I see something like that I always wonder if it's the audience dictating the message or or the message being authentic because I always wonder who are the people reading this magazine they're probably fairly well off right scien American whatever so aren't you isn't it easier to reinforce what they want to hear than it is to stir stir something up I don't know but when I've read this this is when I read something that's so goofy like this this is obviously like a Libertarian slant you know there's a lot of people that they they they lean libertarian and libertarian almost has like a bit of a conservative context to it or a conservative Bend to it because it's a lot of that things are not as bad as everyone's perceiving pull yourself up
your bootstraps the ability to you know to have more freedom will equal more you know less regulation and more freedom will equal more prosperity it's it's an ideology you know it's an ideology as much as being a conservative is as much as being a liberal is like sometimes people they get on that one team and then they just sort of adopt the ideas and the inclinations of that team so this seems like what he's doing and this is again coming from a [ __ ] this seems like very libertarian in it's slant and it just whenever someone does something like this I it makes me question like all the things that they think about like you're supposed to be a guy who points out logical fallacies Who's involved in critical thinking objective reasoning and you say something like this this is like no there's a there's crazy inequality in this country to deny that is insane that's exactly what I was going to say is I think the separation between rich and poor is such an obvious thing I mean how can dispute I watched I can't remember the name of the documentary right now but it followed a couple of people Silicon Valley type entrepreneurs and tracked their incomes relative to those of individuals within the company and the sort of ratio over time how those how those have changed but if you look at technology which is sort of the the angle that I'm looking at it from the whole intent more often than not is to build in efficien like build efficiencies into your process so if you're Amazon for example figure out a way to run your Warehouse without people figure out figure out a way to have robots do to automate all of it right because essentially your bottom line is affected by how much you can a like like the automakers for example get robots in there you know their technology appears to push in this direction of eliminating humans from the equation where it becomes tougher to pinpoint where the actual value is being added in in the product that you're receiving so so it's not like Amazon warehouses don't have humans in them they do and they're creating jobs and they can go around and say we open a new Warehouse so we hired uh 200 people or whatever it might be but once upon a time without the automation how many
people would that have been yeah and what is going to happen when they I mean are they really testing drones for delivery that's not [ __ ] that's not [ __ ] I mean it's not I think it's not nearly as close as the video makes it seem but just the idea that they're testing it idea the idea that it's not look it's going to happen it's like when they first made those photographs where you put the hood on and you stood up there and you know they had that thing like was it like 1850 or something like that the the time between that and having it in your pocket was inevitable definitely all those ideas are out there someone just has to uncover them definitely so once we have drones that there are testing that are delivering products it's a matter of time before the skies are filled with robot delivery trucks that that are there are landing places and dropping off TVs and definitely I think the the last time we were here we were talking about self-driving cars and and how it like in an airplane it's okay for that process to be automated but in cars we freak out about it yeah it's I think it's the same thing with drones people are afraid of what they don't know afraid of the unknown but maybe drones are a little bit further out but what's happening right now is also interesting and exciting and it's kind of flying under the radar in the sense that you're you have uh Amazon Prime you have Amazon Fresh you have all these ways of getting things that you need without necessarily the same uh the same ecosystem the same same chain that you once would have had where you had a delivery man brings it to a store and then the person in the store puts it on the shelf and then you have to go to the store to buy it and you have to go through a cashier instead of an automated checkout just a number of human beings involved in that process used to be a lot more so everybody in that value chain could take a little piece for themselves but in this Amazon Universe it's all about eliminating those cogs and and just doing a to B so yeah a drone is maybe the endgame but even right now there's a huge impact to that that form of consumption yeah it's it's it's so strange to watch the climate shift and change and it's so strange to watch just online shopping I remember I I I did some online shopping
a year ago I mean not a year ago a while ago rather and um I forget what it was that I bought but somebody said where'd you get that I said I got on online and he was like oh man I wouldn't buy anything online put your credit card out there that's CRA how long ago was that long time ago okay yeah I mean I don't I was on when when online shopping first existed I was buying things I was like this is so crazy so cool you could find something online then it shows up and your I think that um now it's almost more common to shop online than it is to not shop online yeah I mean I don't know my mom still says I would never put my credit card on there and my mom's not like super old but I think that we're we just do it so we think everyone does it well and and it depends on the item let's find out what percentage let's take a guess what percentage of of Americans shop online I'd say 70 60% oh that actually do it at all yeah frequently frequently I'd say 50 to 60% what's fre what's frequently though once a week first of all if you type in once every once a month if you type in what percentage of Americans the first question is are gay what what does I tell you about people using Google search what percentage of Americans are gay as first what percentage are Christian to be honest with you though is that really that strange if you think about it yes do you have the answer to that question the Gay Part yeah uh how close how close would we actually everyone's gay just need enough time alone yeah everyone's gay you just need enough time and I'm just curious what that top so the search is a common search I'm just curious what the top result actually is Wikipedia what what do you think based on your own findings like the people I think I say all of America see I don't have enough experience with all of America well just humans Canada you you guys are America North let's be honest no I know but I'm saying like I'm talking more about urban urban areas versus rural areas rural areas they're all gay all those farmers are gay as [ __ ] they might not even know see that's what I'm talking about like I have I have City experience I don't have any country experience do you think it's different I think they hide it more in fact I think the city country thing is more defining than NE than say the city
you come from like people say oh somebody from Chicago is like this and somebody from New York is like that in fact I've I've been in marketing meetings where they have specific terms for those Urban type of people and you talking about Black Folk no no no no no no not no not Urban like that but I mean you can't say Urban I mean the life experience of a person who lives in a highrise versus the type of person who has a few Acres it's a totally different life experience and therefore the culture that you you know part participate in is going to be a little bit different so when people say to me for example oh you know you're Canadian well you been to Toronto a lot so you know it's roughly the same kind of idea but when you ask me like a question like that statistically I would say Toronto is probably more like New York then New York is like Kansas City right you know what I'm saying yeah I agree with you on that except folks and well the the big difference between Canadians and Americans is how nice everybody is there's way more nice people for whatever reason Urban in Canada yeah I know I know I notic people say excuse me and sorry a lot more excuse me sorry pardon me how you doing smiling SM it's just a friendlier place I I feel like it's probably because you don't have this background of conquerors you know it's a it's a different kind of mentality that's set up the country whereas America there definitely different culture yeah for sure definitely close oh yeah it's like a little bit twisted sort of you know and again it varies depending on where you are but one of the one of the things that comes up more than anything is guns gun the gun the difference in the perception of guns crime Etc that conversation always comes up when I'm talking to you know people from America that asking me what the difference is and that uh famously that Michael Moore documentary what the hell which one was it his one of his first ones yeah yeah but bowling for Coline was it bowling bowling Columbine yeah where he he's from Michigan and he went over the border to Windsor from Detroit and I don't know he had some statistics in there and people weren't locking their doors and Windsor and I don't know yeah a lot of people thought that that was
hor [ __ ] I thought it was horeshit too but he was trying to draw some kind of conclusion there that even though we're culturally identical we don't shoot each other which obviously is not true but some of the statistics coming out of Chicago right now are crazy as far as the amount of people that are dying yeah due to gang Warfare Etc like there's nothing like that at all so I don't know there is nothing like that in Canada no no I think Toronto I don't want to say a number because I don't know but murder figures I mean it's one of the safest thank Rob Ford I think kept you guys safe by doing all your crack that's what he does keeping it off the street strategy hanging out with the thugs yeah he's trying to calm everybody down towards overweight white people is that the prince that book about I don't remember but a king needs to be down with the people you see the minute gets up on his high horse up on a hill somewhere too good for crack he can't relate anymore that's what I'm saying free Rob Ford that's what I say I think he's running again he's running against a porn star actually perfect the world's going to end yep it's [ __ ] see I think that is the perfect Nikki Ben that's the perfect uh kind kind of way to look at politics is that if if these people can be there and nothing actually happens there's no actual effect of it it for me it exposes Politics as a whole well politics given the state of our culture I think the most intelligent most capable people don't want that job they they decide no I'll just get some puppet in place to do my bidding and pay them off or you know it's obviously not that planned out like one guy is pulling strings but most people don't they don't want a job that doesn't pay that well it's going to take a shitload of your time and uh everyone's going to hate you no matter what you do yeah what who wants that job that's smart not me that's the problem we have real issues all right it's saying actually that America's uh there's several different articles about shopping online what the numbers were but it's overtaking stores it's saying now yeah 40% 47% of consumers said the internet would be their favorite shopping destination wow yeah here's in
2013 it says more than 80% of the online population has has used the internet to purchase something so at least once and that's the only people that have used the internet so that of all I'd probably say it would be lot lower I'd probably say like 60% globally like yeah there's some people who don't have access like how about how many people shop on their phone what would you say there oh that's growing rapidly I know that for a fact uh I don't know the number seven out of 10 smartphone owners will use their smartphone for holiday shopping wow finding store locations and checking comparing prices being the top two uses with 45% of consumers saying they use social media to assist them with their holiday shpping fascinating I I think social media is a huge huge huge factor in buying Electronics huge mean we were talking your friend Marcus Marquez Marquez who uh also has uh videos online right great really in detail videos about cell phones especially he's helped me a lot i' I've really enjoyed his videos that I I was talking to him about it I was like there's never been a thing like this before no and they uh they actually we were involved in some report recently uh was some University report I'm I'm not remembering the name but they did some tallying to figure out how many people watch videos like that prior to making a purchasing decision the percentage in in our world in the tech space it's huge wow the the numbers were staggering and so there's this really awkward thing going on right now where the influencers are are becoming the retailers in a way wow we're taking on that role where it used to be a guy in a blue shirt at a Best Buy who could give a [ __ ] about the job right who you kind of had to deal with whatever information he had you didn't have a choice and now it's like why would we it's not very it's not the best use of resources to take a bunch of unsophisticated individuals with a part-time job and put them in that role which is essentially a fairly sophisticated role keeping up with all this [ __ ] which is crazy so let's take one guy give him video as a platform and then allow for him to reach Millions it's also the difference between someone taking on that role as a job and someone who's extremely passionate about Electronics completely agree with that
that's for like a guy like you you would probably no matter what your job is you would still be passionate about Electronics 100% I'd still be having the exact same conversations sometimes I I feel like I might even be more passionate because I wouldn't be Jaded by the whole thing you know what I mean like I think in in a weird way that might happen but uh you know there's there's definitely there's definitely this change happening right now where social media is allowing for individuals who you don't know in your personal life to take on the role uh where that used to be for somebody connected to you you know immediately connected to you now the the word of mouth marketing which ENT was which was the most powerful is still the most powerful is transitioning from Word of Mouth in real life real words to social soci media words because even though you might be unreachable to people in real life you're not because of social media so so Joe Rogan is an influencer I'm an influencer Marquez is an influencer and all of a sudden you're you're managing this social group of a million friends essentially that's the way they look at it yeah you know you you're building that connection you have this two-way communication you're producing hundreds of videos you're pumping out hundreds of tweets it's uh you you take on a different role and you're super responsible in a way like say if you choose a certain phone and it turns out to be a piece of [ __ ] oh for sure a massive burden on you that would destroy like to be unjustly like there was no way it would be worth it because it would kind of like stain you forever like your people's perceptions of your judgment and you know and most importantly if you're if you grew up invested in this you know like I did like just wanting to get my hands on the next thing it's if if you're actually excited it's super hard to fake it you know what I mean fake it one way or the other way it's it's there's something about the format the third party format like Brands they'll put out their own videos don't put out a feature video on their product nobody wants that nobody wants your super polished version of the way you want the thing to be interpreted yeah uh in conversations I've had it's like I'm I'm playing the like unboxing videos in general I'm playing the role
of you that's why traditionally they were shot point of view point of view because it's your head you're about to go experience this and when I was playing around with the Google cardboard VR I was like oh [ __ ] can you imagine this idea being expanded on of consumption through someone else experience having experiences that would be unavailable to you through someone else's perspective because often times I'm playing with items that people don't have the money to buy not at least not immediately they may be thinking about it or they may just be watching it for entertainment there's all kinds of different viewers but I can imagine being being a kid really wanting something and the closest I could get to it was that experience of getting it opening it Etc and imagining that perspective of as being mine you know well the unboxing uh videos are always very cool because you know you get to you get a real sense of the product like from from the purchase to your hands to discovering it whereas like other times you like the guy already has it out it's already fully charged he's he knows how to work it so he's swiping back and forth and showing you all the things but you would never be able to talk a producer of a television show into letting you film 20 minutes on a [ __ ] new LG phone they would go no one's going to watch that you know uh I I I've heard of I think maybe it was virgin somebody put put some tech videos in the airplanes which were kind of extended in in length I don't know people would definitely watch them the world is changing you know totally changing those producers that are in that in that business in that world maybe they couldn't understand it but the audience and the numbers they don't lie well the content delivery device of Television like it's going to be on at 8:00 it's going to go from 8 to9 then that's when you got to be there or DVR it I have I love this conversation I feel like it's not it's not us who need to be adapting to them it's them that need to be adapting to us well there's no need as technology has started to change what online video is and now you have like Netflix documentaries and television shows and comedy specials what what is the difference between something that's on Netflix and something that's on
television it's it seems the same thing to me and that's it's becoming more and more prominent and it's going to get to a point where it's going to Eclipse it because they don't have the limitations of you have to watch it at this time it's only on then you got to sit through commercials all the silly limitations you're you're dealing with a more sophisticated delivery system and in the past sophisticated evolutions of systems are never held back you can't stop them you can try but you where's Blockbuster yeah and they [ __ ] up there was a bunch of dudes sitting around a table like this with gray hair saying people like to go and rent a movie you know it's an outing that's what they like to do do do it and then the wife gets to pick that's right Tuesday and husband gets to pick on Wednesday tonight's my night you like the classics the classics for 7-Day rentals and late fees do you remember late fees can you believe that we put up with that [ __ ] I'll do you one better how about rewind fees whoa now I can't go with you there I can't get that far back remember the rewind fees yeah that was [ __ ] so you don't rewind and they're charging you money charge you money if you didn't rewind did you rewind the video you're like uh I think I did and then they look at it no you didn't like who's considering user experience there like how about some customer service well you know my friend figured out that most of the time the people that work at Blockbuster are way too dumb to know whether it's fully watched or fully rewind they would like look at it so what he would do is just fast forward it to the very end and then say it's look it's totally rewound they would go oh okay because they didn't know if it was rewound or they didn't couldn't this one does it go like that or is it like this like where's what's the start does it go clockwise does it go okay getting back to that conversation about the uh about the internet as a delivery method uh there's this this thing happening now where online content creators with really large audiences are getting approached by traditional media you know they they they are wanting to bring them over into that world to try and generate some interest in traditional media to an audience that generally isn't interested in that content and the pro there's
there's problems occurring where those people aren't translating and vice versa or they're trying to mold them into something else there's a lot of really big content creators that have branched out in that way and there's some sort of feeling like once you've got once you're on TV you've made it you know which is still appealing to a lot of people but not not at all for me because when I see like like I said before a more sophisticated delivery system I want for me we we've won when we've convinced them that when we've convinced them to come work with us not the other way around you know and uh and I feel like there's a lot of people there's a lot of people that are undermining how cool all of this is by taking their services and saying and and and saying uh I'm going to I'm not going to upload on my channel as much anymore because I have a show on this channel or because I'm working with this brand or because I'm in commercials now or whatever it is and that's a real thing that's happening with big YouTube Stars that's fascinating so big YouTube stars are getting lured into the dark side that's right they pulled over come with us we'll control the content but we'll pay you that's right we'll give you a pay steady steady money gold coins from the bottom of the mountain come with us that is a real thing because their whole business is based around control they have to control the assets like record deals think about record deals music companies yeah all that [ __ ] got overhauled well I heard there's I don't know what podcast company it is but one of the podcast networks got sold got sold to some radio conglomerate or some [ __ ] like that remember when that happened I was like wow that's weird why would they want to buy a podcast nwor neris didn't they get bought by uh like Warner Brothers or some kind of form of Warner Brothers I don't know find out what the actual well who cares I mean let let him do whatever he wants to do I've had I've had offers to buy my channel really mhm look at you you said that with pursed lips that's right you said that very very serious tones that's right yeah well hey it's worth a lot of money A lot of people are uh checking it out we could just change the way you look at things lisis you're just a little too critical like why are you so mean when it comes to certain devices
that could generate millions of dollars if you just flavored your I just can't imagine that life being that person though really just a shell you know well it's also it's completely contrary to what you're passionate about what you're passionate about is is innovation what you're passionate about is the consumer experience like I I was kind of really interested the last conversation that we had you you were talking about the user experience the UE which I had never really thought of as a concept but it is it's not just a user interface but it's the experience how does it make you feel the beveled edges the the the polished glass the box that it comes in yeah what is all that about and that's something that you only would sort of get if you were truly passionate about this look at look at Apple I mean they they're trying to control the experience start to finish from the retail perspective there's a difference between walking into an Apple store in a Verizon store yeah the Apple they got it nailed they do have that nailed they everything looks Apple you know you go into the Apple Store it's totally app I feel I feel like we shouldn't go off on Apple talk again because this people get upset they suck get they can suck it is the reality is that they make the best laptops they make the best desktops they make the best phones they just do Android phones the best thing about the Android phones is that they're open is that anybody could make things for them is that the screens are bigger is that you know there's a lot you could watch Flash on them there's a lot of really positives when it comes to Android phones but when it comes to like who has made an Android phone that can [ __ ] with an iPhone the closest is like that HTC M8 and I've I've had that it's it's good you know1 yeah it's good actually me and Marquez we did a inadvertent camera test out the window of our hotel mhm we check in he's three floors above me so I'm 12 he's 15 we both snap the exact same photo unknowingly I use a 5S he uses the M8 right and we both post to Instagram SEC within seconds of each other I see mine go live and right underneath I see his and you should check out I'll show you the results yeah Well's it's I've seen a bunch of the results from videos like Marcus's I'll show you the results it's just it's obvious the iPhones have
a better camera it's a better it's it's a Slicker design it's there's a lot of great things to it but damn the Android's [ __ ] it's close okay it's getting really close check this out just scroll down to the next one that's the iPhone 5S on the top we we essentially took the same and scroll down God and that's the M8 oh my God that's incredibly different look at all the detail but it's not the same time because the sun is different on the horizon no dude come on really that's within seconds of one another that's insane look at the how come yours like look at you see your son it doesn't show any like like what is that the the blast the flare but look at his flare yep and look at the interesting part for me is if you scroll down a little more and you look in the shadow portion there's no detail in the m8's shadows terrible looks like [ __ ] you go up to mine look at the detail where the cars are parked and that building in the Forefront yeah that is that's fascinating that you guys did that accidentally and then yeah because it just goes to show you like the the mindset you know like we both saw the cool shot we're like I'm gonna take the shot and and the difference in the output yeah you know see that this sort of the the context of the user experience like the the passionate you know uh person who's into uh electronics that can't you can't fake that you can't you know it is that's why it's so hard there are so many uh users or guys like us that really really like the interface on stock Android like we talked about last time I have a Nexus with me as well pretty much all the time but it's so hard to ditch the iPhone because when you want to make a photo when you want to communicate through photography there's just no other way right now it's not there's that Sony one that takes very high me the one that has the extra extra big fat lens the NOK one is Nokia that's what it is is there a Sony that has that as well the the Sony's have some great cameras too the son's a waterproof one right that's they have a waterproof one totally waterproof phone how why is this not waterproof that's a good question that's stupid back back when back then like when the this really hasn't the body hasn't changed much since the five and back then it really wasn't a thing
people weren't making it it just it's relatively recent Samsung's is uh IP rated for dust and water uh so is I don't know if HTC's is but definitely Sony's is it's a relatively new thing that that's happening they can go you know a meter underwater for 10 minutes yeah hey the next one might be the next one might be but it's it's for them that's not a huge priority it just doesn't seem like but it gets everybody gets their phone ruined by pouring a drink on it like that's the number one reason phones get ruined I would say cracked screens toilet I would say cracked screens are probably higher than water but they're both High speaking of cracked screens cracked screen almost Universal right doesn't everybody get a crack screen I've never had one but I've had to move a turd to get my phone out of out of the toilet did you kill the phone or the phone survived no phone survived how how long was it in there push it thumbnail lit it literally like I got up and then it fell in the toilet and I was like ah put my hand through tur grabbed it pulled it out and then and then uh just dried it off put in a bag of rice he probably didn't even wash his hands as [ __ ] no I did the shaky thing and the The Good the hair dryer oh really what you should do if that happens is 24 hours in a bag of rice yeah it'll it'll pull away all the moisture what I usually end up just doing is then having something stop working and then uh take it to the apple or call the Apple Store and they will send you one without Apple's great with that here's the weird thing though they put or at least they used to I don't know anymore I used to do like some repairs on these things crack them open and get crazy like that but they used to put little litmus paper in there that would show it got wet it would turn red it used to be in the headphone jack I don't know they probably they still do it they still do it but the but if you call they don't there's no way for them to check it well here's here's a question when when you say if you drop something in the toilet you drop a phone in the toilet should you shut it off and throw it in the bag of rice or should you often times it turns itself off but yeah if you if it's still on turn it turn it off quick quickly shut it off so shut it off throw it in a bag of rice
what I usually do is just suck the water out of it oh Christ but but but but I wasn't going to do it with the poop on so right yeah why not it's gross cuz when you suck it off if you look at your iPhone like there's the top part where the the the this where your ear usually goes but there's water that's in there so you suck that and you're like pretty much sucking ear wax it's gross I never I never thought of sucking on my phone ever deep into that me like I go like really hard how many times have you done this probably like five times so where's your phone wait a minute where's your ear going that you're getting ear wax on that if you look if you look there's like a little Grill that's right there and if you look really close you could actually see there's [ __ ] in there I was thinking about the Jack itself know but yeah you you have to suck all of them there's the bottom one that you suck and you suck the power does that work can you really suck the water out will it really help that's what I've always done you mean getting getting water away from it is going to be a positive thing but but he's sound like a guy on the phone he's s customer service here dude listen um I've been sucking on my phone is that cool I'm just saying it in the most polite way possible I wouldn't recommend it no here's the answer to our other question 1.7% of American adults identify as gay or lesbian 1.7 see I had heard 10% that's the gays they just want you to think that everyone's gay right yeah goddamn tough stat to get though who's taking that it's a good question it's a really good question cuz what percentage of gays are in the closet versus out that's a good question I would wonder what do you think again impossible stat to get I would say 50 yeah just take 20 friends that you know and then think all right how many of those 20 people are gay how many people people are those do you think are in the closet how many just like that how it tastes we all know a few people that are in the closet yeah everybody does yeah in public figures too you speculate on it's really sad it's sad when someone's in the closet you know when you got a guy who's a friend like Justin marale who's out and happy and silly about it you know and nobody judges him it's like it's no
different than judging someone who you know likes to drive a certain kind of car so like was it why do you give a [ __ ] it's just it's a weird you know does it is it more the individual though like is it possible that somebody's experience is exactly the way they want it without coming out like is could could it be that there's too much pressure to come out too sure yeah could definitely there's a lot of factors I think it's all depends entirely on your environment your family your religious background where you grew up if you grew up in San Francisco it's probably pretty easy to be gay right if you grew up in Kentucky it's it's probably pretty hard to come out you know you're in a [ __ ] deer stand with a bunch of buddies you go hey man some [ __ ] I mean to get off my chest you know we all listening to G Brook songs and [ __ ] and like one of you just happens to be gay like that guy's [ __ ] man yeah he leaves the community at that point it's that's weird you know if we had a situation where one of our comedian friends came out as gay at a nowhere like say if Ari just decided to tell us you know what guys fight this but it's pretty sure I'm gay whatever we'd be like whoa what that's weird okay wait you had that one guy on guy 10% gay oh oh Brody Brody yeah he's 84% gay determined what would Ari with a lisp sound like we wouldn't have a lisp it's not like I'm coming out of the closet guys I'm tired talking normal no I think that happens Joe I think I think I think once you're out you can start to enhance it I think it yeah I think CU you you hide it and you breathe it in you know you try to hide your gayness but once that's like oh my God I'm so ready to well some gay guys would totally disagree with that because it's gay guys that like really gay men like really lispy fi gay men and there's gay men that like men that are men who like other men and they don't talk gay at Allura or something that's tough yeah like if surura was gay you know if seura was living with a guy who looked exactly like him Cher him and Cher If were Bears they wouldn't be you know they would they wouldn't be obvious no right that's a delicious couple just imagine they're great whether or not they have sex or not they're just two awesome guys so what percentage do you think then our complete like flaming the whole way
versus think you never you'd never know I don't know 1.7% if it's 1.7 so let's round it off let's say it's 2% that are in the closet 2% out of the closet 4% of all Americans gay were we willing to say that I'm will to say that I'm will to say that I'm will to say that I think that's probably about right so 4% of all Americans being gay I'd say super gay dudes it's like 1% yeah one out of and that's mostly drug connected to drug probably like just raging like I want to [ __ ] you in the I don't know man i' I I have some friends that are a gay couple that uh live in my neighborhood and they're pretty obviously gay but they're not like partyers or animals or anything wacky they know not doing I don't think they're doing drugs you know what's weird about it to me is like I know for myself I don't really want to be defined by anything I don't want to be defined by one thing about myself then you're queer that's the queer oh okay perfect I'm I'm going to fit right in but you know the LBG when somebody put like the last thing I want is some kind of label but in that world it seems like that's exactly what you know what I mean they want to be labeled yeah it's so it's so weird it's like I don't know I think because there's a lot of um they want to be identified first first of all they're proud to be out like to be out is probably like a huge relief off of your back right it's just you know just to be out and accept and not have to hide that [ __ ] anymore not have to have that hovering over your head that Pro that probably really [ __ ] with people um so it's probably like an affirmation in a lot of ways to just say you're gay but the queer thing is I think they don't want to be I don't want to butcher this my queer friends they don't want to be described ises a he or a she or a gay or a straight they want to be them there's those folks too I mean otherwise why would it be queer why wouldn't it be bisexual like what are you are you I'm queer okay what does that mean are you gay are you straight are you bisexual I'm just queer so you just all right I got it I think I got it I don't know if I have it you know it's it's so that's a real that's a thing yes queer that's what queer is no one's ever told me that before you know [ __ ] Canadians we keep [ __ ] from you yeah I guess so
there's a lot of things we guys I'm sure if I investigated I could figure it out but maybe maybe no I mean we have there's one hell of a pride parade in Toronto one hell of a pride parade a queer Pride though that's a [ __ ] confusing parade because if you're truly queer you wouldn't even show up for it because you don't even identify with it you don't identify with that group that's running that parade wow yeah I think people for the longest time have been suppressed and and still are but I think for the longest time they didn't have uh an outlet where they can identify with other people that have also been suppressed in very similar ways so whether it's being gay or whether it's being transgender or whether it's being they didn't have a community before to support them they just had scattered groups of people all across the country with no way to communicate with each other yeah and now that you can I think it's like Pro it's probably the time that we're in I don't think it'll be like that forever at some point what do you mean well at some point I feel like the it won't be as exciting as it is now to be a queer here's what I mean by that is since it's only recently become as accepted as it is now right 50 years ago I don't know what they were going to do to somebody who came out or 100 years ago or whatever it was obviously a tougher time So eventually it'll be so commonplace that it won't even drum up nearly the discussion that it does now yeah but as long as it's only 4% of the population it's always going to be a marginalized group I mean think I guess so I can't go with you on that but do you think it's always going to be 4% is it something that's is it something that is a growing figure shrinking figure that's where it becomes a real problem the Christian Community because that means a bunch of queers are indoctrinating all the youngans that's what's going on they're spreading their queer well well there's a lot of people that believe that if you sexually indoctrinate someone the world of homosexuality very young in life that they'll identify with that that it'll imprint this is a deep conversation dude it's a deep conversation but it has more to do what is it with the pedophile the pedophile stuff I'm not saying
pedophilia no no but but the the likelihood of a person who was molested by a pedophile turning into a pedophile themselves yes yeah I think that's that's documented that is documented I don't I don't know if those are totally related you know no just how young young young experiences you have when you're young help shape your perception of so many things it does and also um women who have been molested at a young age tend to uh lean more towards prostitution and towards uh pornography and towards a lot of things along those lines that their ideas about sexuality get morphed but yeah it's it's interesting man um the the 4% thing like you know what that's there's another question like what makes someone gay I mean how many people are gay because of a choice how many people are like I'm tired of [ __ ] dealing with chicks I'm just going to learn to start liking dudes how many of them I feel like the company line is that people are born gay but I always had difficulty with that I mean I I have I have difficulty believing people are born anything oh you need to meet this kid that lives on my street like no but but by this I mean by this I mean some percent some percentage of our existence is nature and some percentage of our existence is nurture right it's a mixture it's not any one it's not concrete you don't come out with a concrete perspective on anything except this kid down my street he's five and he's gay as [ __ ] five but by five I don't I think we underestimate how quickly character is built on an individual between the ages of one to two or two to three we look at a 5-year-old and for us as adults 5 years is nothing it's a blank but for them it's so yes it's such a huge span and so much is happening in that period of time oh yeah and your childhood being traumatic is incredibly hard to get over it's just the fact that it happened 15 years ago it set the boundaries and the framework sort of the building blocks of your personality and to kind of go back and repair that [ __ ] very difficult to do some people most people I think never do as opposed to um someone who's born and raised in a really like I have friends that grew up [ __ ] up and they're just there's something about the [ __ ] upness that they encountered that just they're gone
they're never going to come all the way back they're never going to look at themselves objectively they're never going to step back and try to fix many or any of the personality issues they might have developed because of like a protective mechanism that they sort of developed as a young person they're just not going to do it a shut off button yeah there's just whatever it is they're they're done they're done growing changing and then other people like you meet them they're consistently exploring their personality and their life and improving upon themselves and doing new things you know I love when I talk to someone like dude I took up scuba diving like what that's awesome tell me about scuba diving you know like people I mean and that's not the best example but about someone who's like consistently and constantly trying to expand you know their their experiences and try to and analyzing their life then there's other people that are just in a sea of bad decision making and alcohol is M and drug abuse and gambling and this and that it seems like it seems like it it can it can come out in so many different ways but it it ultimately stems from being happy or not being happy you know finding a way to get there right I mean [ __ ] can happen to you and you have that moment of interpretation where you can take it one way or take it down down a different path and the more severe the experience the the harder it is to take it in a positive way is weird that is I don't know you know what I mean like like for example failure like that's the main way you learn how to do something so you so I'm going to learn how to ride a bike well if I fall off that bike I'm going to learn really quickly to stay focused so that that doesn't happen because there's pain on the other end of it so here's this really negative thing that actually acts as the mechanism for getting me from A to B and getting better at something but the pain portion on its own when you can't justify it when you can't figure out the end message when you can't figure out what I've learned because of this that's when it's the toughest to digest yeah I think there's a lot of folks that try to stay as comfortable as possible as much as possible too so they're terrified of that pain so instead they just don't experience much
they just have like a very narrow world of you know and then maybe they'll experience like a little bit of emotional pain online every now and again you know what I mean like they'll put up a YouTube video and then read the comments that's that's enough no bike riding for them because that that would be some real life pain see I have I have two little kids I have a four-year-old and a 2-year-old and just like my life has changed a lot since having them just in analyzing their behavior and and then analyzing my own in contrast to theirs like again yeah adults are constantly trying to find ways to avoid pain to avoid not not feeling great all the time yeah like we're complete you know risk avoidance I mean average person whatever 9 to5 type individual them they put themselves out there for no reason my four-year-old there's a swing set he could go on the swing or he could pick one of the posts going to to the top and climb all the way to the top and sit he's four you know like what is driving him to do that because the adult mind would say oh you're going to break your wrist or leg or whatever and he might and someone's going to blame me for it fine but that it's the drive portion in and of itself this just wanting to EXP that's the most exciting that's the part that I want to tap into that's the part that's contagious you see him do that and it's like [ __ ] why do I why should I fall in line even if it's not directly related why does the next thing I do need to be the status quo right like what we did today what we did today is not your average Tech video right well tell people what you do today I was wondering if we were going to talk about it or not yeah for sure we could talk about anything and everything what we did today we ran a little test a little experiment uh do people know most people know behind this studio is an a little mini archery range if you don't know that you should know that there's a couple pictures on Joe's Instagram feed that's how I knew about it uh a little mini archery range and the experiment involved bringing some technology components out here to figure out how they would resist the impact of an arrow right yes yes yes have I done a good job so far I I feel like I'm dancing around the sub okay the upcoming iPhone the iPhone 6
supposedly has a sapphire display or a display that's partially made of sapphire here's the problem with sapphire how Tech how technical do you want to get a get in there okay Sapphire is are really hard material they've been using it on watch faces for a long time it doesn't scratch easily if you buy a Rolex or something it's probably got a sapphire face or something something like that but it's really expensive and it's really brittle so for a flexible surface it would be [ __ ] [ __ ] shitty and and what a lot of people don't realize is that even if you have a a stiff phone like an iPhone there's a certain amount of flex that it can put up with without chipping or shattering like something like this you know you can put some force on it you could sit on it Etc it doesn't crack when you bend over type stuff or chip very easily although people crack them anyways smash them anyways so companies came out with things like Gorilla Glass which are these flexible kinds of glass that are made out of uh laminated poly type [ __ ] a little bit of everything in there some glass some minerals some plastic this new Sapphire one which is supposed to be patented by Apple is supposed to be the strongest we've ever seen so fewer people are going to end up in the Apple store with a cracked iPhone essentially that's that's the way it's looking right now so my buddy Marquez who we talked about earlier got his hands on and threw a very similar source to who I've gotten my hands on components from before got his hands on this glass supposedly allegedly whatever no no no uh uh definitiveness there but what we think is the the upcoming glass put it through its Paces scratched it with a knife scratched it with keys would not scratch right very durable But I me I was unimpressed because I said well we need to bust the thing we need to take the thing to the point of Destruction this is not enough and I wasn't the only one there were people in the comments that were like well dude you and he did a great video so he he doesn't deserve it but they're like well dude sure you bent it and scratched it but at what point is it is it going to be destroyed and so uh we wanted to test that so I sent him a message where I said listen me you let's figure out how to get this done I think uh maybe we
should go to a gun range that's what I said to him at first I said I said I said on DM I said have you ever been to a gun range he said I like where this is going then I responded with I think I can do one better I said what do you think about an arrow he said sold right I said let me reach out to let me reach out to Joe so then I sent a message to Joe uh it was kind of vague I like the way it was phrased though I said leaked iPhone Sapphire screen an arrow and a high-speed camera that was it dot dot dot what do you think about that and he responded with [ __ ] yeah you hear me folks no hesitation [ __ ] yeah right in the DM that's what I love about this guy right here so we came down and we did it we made it happen and the video is going to go live I have a [ __ ] ton of uh data to look through because this camera is shooting at 960 FPS which I we I'm going to have the calculation wrong here but essentially an 8sec clip is an enormous amount of footage it's like minutes worth so over over a minute 960 frames per second that's what we shot at at60 yeah it turned out to be what was it was like one minute of video equals 1 second was that the yeah is that is that it I don't know I don't want to go on record as as as cu I'm going to be wrong if I do go on record but for those that are really into this [ __ ] we were shooting on a an fs700 at the highest frame rate possible and uh and basically we're going to try and give you guys the most accurate representation of the impact that we can and uh I mean I'm not going to spill it here we got to leave a little reason to go check out the video but uh interesting results yes we're not going to spill it but guess who wins we did some other stuff too it's not the phone we didn't we we didn't stop at the at the sapphire the upcoming Sapphire we had we had more fun than that so plenty of incentive to head over to unbox therapy hit the Subscribe button right now so you're ready when the video goes live because we're about to take over the internet and we're counting on you guys to help us get there oh we'll definitely promote it we we shot some [ __ ] we shot quite a bunch of [ __ ] yeah definitely it was uh it was worth doing definitely for sure yeah so yeah we brought a lot of cool people down there I should shout everybody out we brought uh uh Austin Evans we brought
John from TLD we brought uh Marquez of course who else am I missing right now I don't think anybody no I probably am I'm being an right now uh Josh also from TLD was there anyway anyway bunch a bunch of cool people way too many cameras were in the back there you're going to see it all we got behind the scenes we got in front of the scenes this is destruction at its best it was awesome it went down go watch a video uh what what is it about men that uh we were talking about this right like men wanting to shoot things and blow them up like if you had to compare like the numbers just the sheer numbers forget about how many people are gay the sheer number of thing of things that get blown up by men you know like what is but holes things that get yeah no chicks are sticking firecrackers up to butt things things that get like like blown up in a field how many things get blown up in a field that are growing up I used to blow up fish you know I used to put firecrackers in their mouth and just blow them up after fishing so that's so rude you should be you should be on some watch list somewhere you know that if you weren't before yeah you are now yeah um men like like how many different like refrigerators have been like stuffed full of dynamite definitely it's all men right when I was a kid I had an obsession with like opening stuff like this up like they would buy me my parents would buy me some awesome piece of technology and I would want to get inside of it like keyboards and uh Walkman I used to open those up wow to just see what they were made of I don't know if this is an extension of that but ultimately you get to see what the thing is made of you know what I mean that's part of it I think for sure to to see inside once you shoot it look inside but blowing things up it's also just to just blow things up no you're right you're right I'm stretching on that I was trying put there's two different there're two different desires like your desire is like the desire to see the wiring under the board but also like when the also when the arrow hits it like we're so used to seeing this in the context of oh don't drop it oh don't spill on it to see it in that light where [ __ ] you you know this thing right that you've been so
concerned about for so long you know you're gentle with it you baby we [ __ ] baby these things true you know and so to take the to take this thing that's on your conscience all the time where is it do I have it is in my pocket right who doesn't do the slap the slap you got you slap the wallet phone you don't leave that premises until it's in there so to say [ __ ] it even for a minute even for a second that's a win or you're just destroying things and you're just getting off on the fact you destroy things yeah but but if it wasn't I mean it was cool but like let's say we put some I don't know a [ __ ] banana there it wouldn't have been quite the same yeah no definitely more valuable things are cooler to see explode for whatever we're rebelling that's right yeah I guess yeah um what was I going to say oh exploding things I don't know whatever I lost it I lost whatever I thought it was it's it's exciting I mean there's also this just from a very straightup Primal perspective this idea of the impending doom like as as a viewer you get to wait you get to watch but you know the outcome you already know what the [ __ ] going to happen but you need to see it happen anyways I know what I was going to say Blend Tech blenders you ever seen that y will it blend that's crazy they blend the [ __ ] iPhone they blend the [ __ ] out of that iPhone that dude Blends my Vitamix couldn't take I have a Vitamix not Blend Tech and it couldn't do a pineapple I cut a put a pineapple in there and just overheat kept on overheating but luckily there's a sensor in there that you just have to unplug it and wait 30 minutes and [ __ ] but I'm like wait a second why can't this [ __ ] do a pineapple but like a you got to man up and get the blch man I don't know I enjoyed the Vitamix you know what I like about the Vitamix that plunger thing yeah the plunger thing is nice but I never used it for anything other than kale shakes right but uh it's perfect for kale shakes works great but the blende Tech's better even for kale Shak because it really liquefies it it brings it down to like a much smaller smaller size particle does it I use my blunch though every day or my Vitamix every day like even if I'm just getting like hey I'm GNA get some apple juice I put some
apple juice and ice in it and make it like a frozen it's good man it's good I mean you you should look if the more or you could give your digestive system a break and blend [ __ ] up like that like vegetables it's good for you it's good it helps you poop too God good Lord that's the best thing about those kale shakes the poops are fantastic I need help there man wild I guess I got to jump on a kill train just a wild log ride like like you're working on the Yukon and there's a river and then the the logs broke loose and they went down current like that's what it's like when you take a [ __ ] it's just like oh hang on just hang on perfect woo and then you you think like why isn't my [ __ ] always like this sometimes you know are you going I think I got to take a [ __ ] I definitely have to take a [ __ ] all right let me just sit here and wait for this to come out how long should a [ __ ] how long should you be in there for how long should you be sitting down for it's really truly dependent on your diet right I think um the easier it is for you to [ __ ] is for you for Joe Rogan and experience in the bathroom what's the perfect length of time depends on if I have my phone with me cuz sometimes I'll drag it out even when I'm done or a good magazine or a book that I'm into I'll drag it out like I'm done [ __ ] I've finished don't feel like pulling my pants out what kind of have you set what's your record for time after you've been finished for still chilling with the phone my legs going numb all the time tell you that especially when you got that iPhone Ari used to have a joke about it so true you know you get that iPhone resting on your elbows resting on your thighs and then you lean and just C that you're choking out your legs essentially yeah have you ever masturbated on the toilet like sitting on the not not [ __ ] but just sitting on the toilet no no no like I had when the girl was over I couldn't masturbate in front of her so I would go to the bathroom like I'm going to take a shower and then just try to masturbate while sitting on the toilet why you just have sex with her she's right there I weing into it too much work too much work too much work so what happened what what was what was the outcome it's really hard I
I've only done it once I've tried like three times hard I know it's something about the sitting on the toilet it's not it's Tak you out the position I remember somebody sending me something not a product they wanted to send me a product because they say we don't sit on the toilet properly and it's this thing to adjust the way you sit oh like a squat thing that's what it was a platform that's what it was imagine that review my God that is supposedly the the way you're supposed to [ __ ] I did I looked it up I went to their website and I was like holy [ __ ] everyone's [ __ ] the wrong way yeah we are that is true you it it is easier for your bowels to work if you're if like you can also sort of adjust your posture when you're over over top yeah because I think probably the way I'm doing it with my phone where I'm leaning forward and I'm it's probably the worst way like what you should do is like probably straighten up and like mimic the squatting the the perfect technique with Joe Rogan yeah this is how you [ __ ] ladies and gentlemen I know your mom never taught you this I'm here for you yeah I think like a squatting sort of a thing like that like with a with a straight back would be the way to do it we got to fix the morning peab boner problem because that [ __ ] like I still like I'm not good at it what's that what do you mean what's like where you have to like do that weird position to stand over the toilet and push your boner down just to pee into oh yeah well you just got to just go outside is that what you do pee outside really that's what you do get close get one one with do you have a piss pot have we talked about this I I I have a piss pot and I no it's outside I like to pee outside for some reason it's just more comforting I'll just walk outside and pee and a pot how come you don't have no there's just a pot out there it's a pot that's like a planted pot Bush oh okay you're little fertilizer for the plant it's not good for us no not at all dog piss kills Lawns I know that definitely yellow disaster no no no they yeah like it stops being green I don't know what's in a dog's piss it's the ammonia but it doesn't seem to be the same as a human like when you pee on the grass like if you pee on your grass it doesn't seem to kill the grass dog tastes the same
though no but you could smell dog pee it smells like regular PE yeah definitely does cat is disgusting I I don't know I don't know what you're into man but dirty little animals my cat my oldest cat oh she's a problem she shits in front of the toilet now she's old as [ __ ] she's 18 M start [ __ ] in front of my toilet and it's like gray [ __ ] or something they're mess they're getting old when they get old man cats Fall Apart they hang in there for a long time like my cat's 18 [ __ ] years old she's hanging in there but every night well she doesn't know what's going on she's 18 she's probably got some sort of uh neurological issue yeah some Alzheimer's Kitty Alzheimer's or something like that but she'll she just a racist as [ __ ] but she not screaming in wordss at night I don't know if she can um she remembers where the litter box is just two litter boxes in the house but sometimes she's in the bathroom and she'll just [ __ ] in the wrong bathroom on the floor this is all new like over the that and mine's also having problems jumping on little counters like you know it's just like Falls all the time and I think she's starting to get blind or something they just get weak too their legs are weak at what point tomorrow bullets no we got to let her I don't want her to suffer you know if I thought she was suffering like most of the time she's cool she's she has a problem [ __ ] and you know she PE in the wrong spot we man putting an animal down I put my dog down well I mean I didn't put it down personally but you've been there it's horrible it's weird it's hard it's hard it's hard it's weird because you know you don't do that to people well you know youthia some some people say it's more Humane well it is more Humane yeah it's certainly more Humane if you knew that someone that you love dearly was suffering in some horrible way and they would probably stay alive for months or maybe even a year in this state before they their body eventually gave out and there's no hope to bring them back the problem is there's so many people that would kill their parents there's so many people that would kill loved ones kill and if they had the choice like people have had there's been situations where a husband or a wife had been crit in critical
condition and the wife had been arguing to pull the plug or the husband had been arguing to pull the plug and the massive controversy the family gets involved everybody's angry you know so it's you can't just do that you know it's what about the person themselves making the call like if they're still cognizant how can you tell they're cognizant they want to kill themselves I mean it's like what suicide is illegal which is hilarious not everywhere no other countries you mean yeah yeah um but in America essentially it's illegal everywhere right you know euthanasia is illegal the the uh kavorkian guy who see I person I don't have a problem with it if a person if if a person could pass a psychological evaluation that they're cognizantly there a basic psychological evaluation and they say listen I'm sick of suffering or whatever but there needs to be suicide houses like you know they can go in there just like a big hole in the ground and fall in or something suicide houses like there should be should well how about that Suicide Forest in Japan yeah yeah that's weird the way people choose to do it too they choose to do it with as little pain as possible very few people jump into volcanoes you know how badass way to go right there oo how long would that take be instant yeah he went head first instant I think so yeah he basically would just burst into flam I mean that's what they used to do right to bad people they would throw them in the volcanoes didn't they used to do that I don't know I never heard about it I'm sure it's happening seems like they used to sacrifice to the volcano Gods but I don't know if that's a real thing or not well sacrifice certainly a real thing so you got to assume sacrifice B volcano would be like the most you want to think about a cool way to do it definitely thecan although how about like that Braveheart where they the torture and making everybody watch the torture like that might be more badass because you you're intentionally keeping the guy alive yeah but that's killing someone that's not like human sacrifice oh it's like human gu oh I guess you're saying is a form of punishment but they're never sacrificing the cool people they're always sacrificing the [ __ ] they don't like anyway but by whose standards are they
an [ __ ] that's a problem the king or whoever he doesn't give a [ __ ] about them right but the King by the time the guy gets to be a king who knows whether whether he's a good guy or not his judgment oh I guarantee you he is not Joe versus a volcano what is that mag Ryan movie yeah Tom Hanks and me Ryan and they something about sacrificing something to them volcano you sacrificed your [ __ ] hour and a half of your life I don't know where the connection there's a sacrifice me H Meg Ryan Tom Hanks movie oh Christ try watching like the Sleepless in Seattle that was like one of the first internet-based love affair movies oh you've got mail remember that wait a minute isn't that you've got mail sleepus in Seattle they were having an online correspondence right I think that was You've Got Mail I think that's you got maale is it yeah what was sleepest in Seattle that was one where she had she squirted in the deli or something remember she had an orgasm in the restaurant famous for that you're right but wasn't that also like oh that was like they sent each other actual letters is that what it was I don't remember that was Billy Crystal right yeah so you've got mail was the first online what year was you've got mail I would say 956 okay let's find out Sleepless in Seattle 9596 but you see You've Got Mail that was an AOL thing that it said you've got mail so it's Sleepless in Seattle was 1993 yeah okay this is a radio talk show that they called in that's what it was You've Got Mail 1998 interesting so 93 sleepus in Seattle was radio so that was before so 98 was essentially got May was like right when four years into the internet Invasion Yeah in our culture that was probably AOL number 5.0 a really confusing time I still know people like old people who they their perception of who AOL is and what they do is all confused like people well you know what I mean like I don't want to call anybody out but you know like AOL was a service provider they had a browser right at one time like you would get a disc that comes along with with your service you sign up and you get a CD that you have to put in and install their software do you remember that mhm yeah yeah so so then they and then they essentially became a media company which
is what they are now they have they own some tech sites it's the reason I'm familiar and they have of course their own website but does anybody still use AOL as a we that's what that's what I was wondering yeah a lot of people do yeah I think a lot of people still actually use Bobcat gold we he sent me a [ __ ] AOL email address there you go I was like no way there's out there he's like I'm old school back the day it was awesome the member direct directory search got me leg you used to be able to just type in your address and would find anybody that had AOL around you based on your your miles and I found out like girls that live down the street for me and then I started hooking up with them they could probably [ __ ] sue them for super stalker well that's what internet privacy back then was nonexist knew what the [ __ ] you could just send them a message and I used to like you know anyone could get a message to anyone so like if your mom was on a well and she had an account like somebody a stranger could just be like hey lady you want to [ __ ] and no one isn't it funny that like given the option like message boards and AOL given the option to use your actual name like I have a message board and my message board has [ __ ] we'll look at it right now I want to say like at least 10 million posts how many millions okay 7 million posts in the main Forum whoa uh half a million posts in the uh podcast forum Combat Sports Forum is 697 th000 the [ __ ] Farm is 1,700,000 that's the OG message board right there it's so it's been around a long [ __ ] time there's a lot of posts on it but like the actual number of people that use a real name it's almost none oh on a message board definitely yeah giving the opportunity yeah I mean I use my real name but if I'll go through the the podcast Forum or the any of the Forum it's all crazy names Zam Biz uh Wally Ryder derpa I mean everyone's got these wacky King Phoenix that's not your name people used people used to do that with email too so how many how many do you think I got the number here uh still use AOL per year as a service provider as a service they pay for a service okay I would say I'm going to say 4 million okay what would you think this is obviously a US number it's only in America how many
people are currently subscribers to the internet through AOL you said four million I said four and to think there's probably nothing really to subscribe to anymore it's just AOL still charging them yeah I I I got to think it's I got to feel like it's less than that I don't know 2 million I got to feel like I'm underestimating I feel like if I had to do again say 10 hug okay go do you want 10 I'll say I'll take 10 take 10 it's 2.5 million [ __ ] pretty close I got greedy it's amazing that it's two yeah two and a half million still a lot of people what was it in its Heyday it's a good question I don't know I remember wait a minute what was that merger it was time in AOL time media and AOL right that was like the epitome of the do Fallout like that acquisition where they Val they valued AOL at some enormous figure I think I'm right about that I'm talking about a lot of things today worms welcome to the podcast got AOL now it's just that's AOL huh yeah you could just do all the it's just a news site similar to Yahoo wow it looks so weird yeah yeah that was weird it looks so odd yep and see there's an examp remember how we were talking about traditional media before there's an example of a company essentially losing its foothold in an incredibly short span of time where they were the way to get on the internet and then a decade later they're a news site yeah whoa wait a minute and they started buying up you know media properties websites that are successful Etc trying to get back into the game in some way but that's a that's another that's an example of how how the acceleration is happening now where adaptation is more necessary than ever you can never rest on what you're currently doing you always have to be moving on to the next thing because or you're or you turn into a well yeah and there's also going to be times where whatever you used to do just doesn't exist anymore y it's going to go away like if if Blockbuster tried to stay open in some way shape or form it wouldn't have made it nobody needs that anymore so it went away no you know there's going to be a lot of those kind of things when things turn digital like record stores are they still exist but it's because records have become kind of
cool like an actual record it'll always it'll be there in some format but it just won't be the status quo like comic book stores yeah like comic book stores are cool because to have a physical copy of Spider-Man 1 is pretty dope but you know what you can get that Marvel has an app that you can get on your iPad right and you watch comic books on an iPad are better comixology it's me Marvel I think it's Marvel oh Marvel has one there's also another really big one I think is called comixology or something like that they were recently purchased by Amazon anyway I'm sorry it's the best way to look at comic books because you flip frame by frame so you don't have spoilers like you know sometimes you'd be reading a comic book and you see the next page yeah you see the explosion that's in the next page and you you go oh damn that's going to happen it's actually better what it is better cuz you're literally going frame by frame every frame is in a unique frame and when you put it down and pick it back up you're right where you left off yeah dude reading comic books and also it's not like a limited edition you can't get it they could reproduce every goddamn comic book that ever existed in a digital form and they'd be fools not to yeah and they could do like Netflix like subscription packages where you just read all you can yeah you know not actually have to buy them as one if you're willing to pay a monthly fee or something something like that yeah and it would make it accessible to the average fan and the the real big wig sort of comic book collectors that are willing to pay how much is Spider-Man 1 worth oh I have no idea am of money right Spider-Man one insane amounts of money million bucks I don't know something crazy like that most people are not going to have it but you could easily get it if you're a regular kid who had an iPad like they could just upload it digitally and it'd be great Y no problem you know and it would make things though there's this fear though that it brings down it has the potential to bring down the overall economic value of the of that independent marketplace where if people aren't going out and spending $8 per you know per uh comic then overall there might be less money there less incentive to get into it less like this is this is the music
business's argument right about independent stuff I don't think that that makes any sense though because I think that you're just going to make people more excited you're dealing with 350 million people in this country alone you're getting more access to the comic book and I think it's going to make them more excited about it the physical copy is still going to be worth a massive amount of money I don't think it undervalues it at all I think in fact it probably makes it more exciting to actually hold the copy of it right but there but there will be fewer comic book stores than there were before will there be I don't know I think that people still love to have the physical thing in front of them yeah I do too I don't know I think it's a mix if you look at like well for example movies could you sustain a big budget Michael Bay how much money does does he spend on Transformers if people aren't going to go to the movie theater and spend $15 and another 10 on popcorn is Michael Bay able to make his movies anymore yeah he is at the same budget you buy him online right but that's what what I mean is the consumption medium once you're online your expectation is that it's not going to cost you as much as it costs you at the theater it's the context of the theater that pulls that money out of your pocket the highest number Spider-Man 1 has generated is this it for the the grade you know they grade them from of course 0.5 which is a complete magazine 1.0 which is very poor 0.5 is fetched as much as $1600 for a complete shitty torn apart Spider-Man wow for the highest for a perfect copy 1.1 million I was close on that estimate too you're were dead on and that's Amazing Fantasy it's only the um that is the original Spider-Man Amazing Fantasy had uh Spider-Man on the cover and it was the very first time that we were introduced to Spider-Man it's only the third comic book to break $1 million the other two are Action Comics number one and Detective Comics Number 27 amazing but ion bucks for some paper see but people but look at there it's like the the shitty version of that's all [ __ ] up is only worth 1,600 bucks but the best perfect crisp clean there's a huge
gap yeah yeah I think there's always going to be that I gu I I completely agree with you that that's always going to exist too I I guess the part I'm talking about is just more ma Mass consumption that if the mass consumption medium was paper that needed to be distributed everywhere the average cost of consumption for the average user would be higher than it is in a subscription based model like Netflix for example is $8 a month but what did you spend on rentals before Netflix existed a lot more a lot more yeah that's true that's a good way of looking at it and also um the amount of comics that are released like new ones that are digitally released like right now the amount of apps just for viewing comic books is you know there's a couple but it's not like the same I mean if you used to be able to go to any grocery store anywhere and there would be an aisle that had comic books there would be like a thing that spun around that little rack that had comic books on it like that slowly is going to be digital so it's kind of like our our Amazon conversation from earlier where streamlining the delivery method inevitably Cuts money from from that transaction Cuts money kind of It kind of does I guess but you can't think that way no I'm not supporting that yeah I'm just saying that that's the counterargument in all this stuff and probably the better analogy is the Michael Bay one is this idea that the traditional model is [ __ ] up as it is and maybe the most original ideas aren't getting out it generates a [ __ ] ton of money yeah it's interesting but it's an inevitable part of innovation like the Horseshoe maker of the 1800s was probably so pissed when cars came along he like I bought this [ __ ] house with horseshoes like my whole my my kingdom is from horseshoes I'd like to see his reaction he's probably so mad you know guy's probably going apeshit right now you don't need a [ __ ] car okay hey's not that expensive all a sudden he became Jerry Seinfeld I don't know what was that well why do you need hey he strikes me as a horseshoe kind of guy oh he's a car guy he opposite of a horseshoe guy got like a million cars right but he's got old ones yeah thing is old on Porsches that's his main thing though porsa is his main thing Porsche
911s he's got like some ungodly number of Porche who's got better cars overall him or Leno Leno wowen notes yeah Leno is a gangster he has a full-time staff that takes care of his cars they're in a warehouse je he he has an online show yeah he's got some giant airport wow he also has a um a show a web show that he does like all based on cars breaking down cars Seinfeld has that Cars and Coffee show watch he's pretty close it's close second his show is more I mean it's a little bit about the car but more about hanging out with Unique Individuals I don't mind that show no it's not bad you think about a traditional media guy from 990 the 90s I think it's a decent transition it's definitely better than that marriage ref thing whatever that was on TV that was dog [ __ ] yeah yeah but you can't fix marriages who the [ __ ] told you you could fix marriages this is how you fix them you break them you break them and you tell people to get get your [ __ ] together meet somebody else and don't let this happen again don't let it get to the point where you're on TV working out your grievances sniping at each other in front of America but his his coffee car Comedians and Cars or whatever it kind of has like a podcast vibe to it a little bit very much so it's probably edited a little too much for my taste but otherwise I feel like you're sort of getting an uncensored version of both individuals pretty much yeah and it's also a a passion uh project whereas he doesn't need any money exactly probably doesn't make much from it although they're still getting those accurate ads in there they are sure they're nice and smooth too yeah they are good ads yeah um he's good at it he's good at the show he's he really loves cars but that's what's why it's a passion project like he's he really is a guy like he was driving a 1973 Porsche 911 RS which is a very rare car it's worth a million dollars yeah and he was driving it around with someone uh I forget who it was was in the car with him but I think it's a guy who hosts Seth Meyer is that his name yeah that guy I think it was him one of those some comedian character whoever it was sure and you know you could tell as he's describing the car like these are Jerry's words he's a real car nut this
is a really there's such a difference between that and someone who is just doing that gig like there's plenty of those guys online that are doing the car gig because they could have been a weather cter or they could have been journalism not even that I mean they could have been a [ __ ] top 40 DJ or something but instead they're reviewing cars this is the new Automatic Transition transmission it's a seven-speed dual clutch setup there's a difference between that and like Matt Farah who's a a friend of mine who has a show called drive and he's on that and you got a script and a teleprompter you're doing it wrong yeah and that's the thing about like if you can pursue your interests you'll never work a day in your life if you can actually find a job where you're doing what you love unless it becomes a burden which also you can [ __ ] up true you can [ __ ] up and the thing that you love can become your you know it's like marrying your mistress you know at least you're still doing it your way and [ __ ] up your way yeah you know there it's still it's so different than having somebody else tell you what's right and wrong to experience it yourself like like sort of like the bicycle thing someone can tell you you can you're going to fall but it's you're never going to learn as fast as experiencing the failure and and and uh iterating based on it you know that's something that I think makes like YouTube for example so great is that the content producer themselves is keeping track of so many different we producers we're creat we content creators writers whatever whatever wearing all these different hats so you get to essentially see uh so many different perspectives on on the the output what what eventually becomes the video and that job used to take and the that's a super common question I get when people when I talk to people is you do this you mean you do all that on your own all of it like where where's the what about the camera guy what about this guy what about that guy Etc and uh but there is some level of control and creativity and Imagination that can come free when you know how to do everything you know what I mean when there aren't you aren't seeing physical barriers everywhere you're like I know how to do that well you're also seeing you in an
undirected atmosphere exactly really you and you're an interesting guy you're a passionate guy about all these different things that you're reviewing so it's it's it draws you in there's no there's no fakeness to it all there's no today very produced layer in the back all of us had ideas you know what I mean everyone was directing everyone else and and themselves and the whole thing and if in a more uh regimented environment it just sucks the life out of everything well we were talking about that if we had a producer back there that was calling the with clipboard meanwhile it was just Five Guys laughing hysterically and just like and trying to make the best video too like everybody's idea was clearly about trying to like maybe we could get this shot what about that maybe we could do that or this and it became like we were ramping it up and escalating it to make it better and I feel like I feel like that's what exposes the traditional media model in the sense that like if we're having fun it's going to come through coming back to the social media kind of element we're we're these guys friends we need to get as close to the experience of having them there here as we can for them to get the most out of the video Yeah and every every time you put this business person or whoever in between that communication Spectrum all of a sudden there's this filter and audiences are more sophisticated than ever and that's why I feel like YouTube is the place it's the ultimate Battleground because everybody has equal access to viewership and so you can come with your big budget and you can come with your fancy voice the one you were doing there the fancy voice you can come with your million dollars in fact bring it a million dollar bring it bring it and the organic [ __ ] will win in fact in fact a couple of years ago maybe a couple of years ago Google thought we need more premium content on YouTube so they had they launched this premium content initiative spent an enormous amount of money like a100 million to convince traditional media people to bring their content to YouTube almost every everything within that initi uh initiative bombed wow because it wasn't passion based because it wasn't passion based and it wasn't organic to the platform it was this really weird kind
of Frankenstein version of it you know and I you know I'm I'm I'm really passionate about it I'm really passionate about people that are web native remaining that way you know and a fat paycheck not necessarily changing that yeah I don't think it would change that for you you you you really do enjoy it and love it and the only thing that would change is if it became a burden you know if it became you were beholden to another company you were beholden to if you had Sony sponsors unblock you know imagine if Sony sponsored unbox therapy or well dude it I mean it's not it's not impossible that I mean on the web there's this advertising is the web and no one wants to talk about that you know people want to run ad block and pretend that it doesn't exist every site you love every video you love everything important and interesting on the web or the or a lot of it the vast majority of it is supported by the fact that brands are paying to be in your face Google exists because they're an advertising company first and foremost that's how they keep the doors open right but there's this really weird thing where people you know haters whoever people want to come on there and pretend that it's actually something else they're participating in but if it wasn't for advertising in real money finding its way to the web none of us would be here right now you need it you need it to survive and you need it to invest back in the content I'm out here in LA right now shooting [ __ ] arrows it's not free I got a $110,000 camera back there it's not free if you want to see cool [ __ ] it's going to cost you but at least in this environment you know it's spent on the actual thing and not spent on some woman walking around with a clipboard right well I've been to certain YouTube shows that are super over produced have you ever seen YouTube shows where they do it like a Hollywood show they have makeup artist producers and directors there's there's a guy that's holding the camera there's another guy directing it and someone who's overviewing the thing I've seen like six seven people I've been I've been on the same sets man and what is that that's the Blockbuster effect those those are the traditional people taking the easiest path to secure their position without being imaginative it's
also people that think that you have to do that in order to be legit you have to have all those roles that's right if you if there not today we had probably five people holding cameras yeah you know what I mean not not because it was their job but because it was exciting to try and get an interesting frame themselves yeah you know we wasted everybody on the actual subject matter instead of having somebody putting powder on our faces and there was also there wasn't the the the voice of reason didn't exist there was no one person that was like try say like look we can't do that that's too far we're going to lose our sponsors we're going to exactly I think once you had the real version once you've had the uncensored version once you've had you on the podcast you've had me in my show it's really hard to ingest Us in another format you know yeah it's well it' be really hard if it it's it' be really hard to recreate that too like to recreate someone who's really interested in what they're talking about really passionate about it's I don't think you can recreate it you either into it or you're not y you can't fake that y it comes through you know that's a big issue in mixed martial arts too in big mixed martial arts um they there was a bunch of those sort of sports guys that got into mixed martial arts and were doing commentary on it but really didn't know what the [ __ ] they were talking about but they were more Sports and they would say like ridiculous [ __ ] and the hardcore fans would go crazy they go after them they're like you're not really a fan you [ __ ] weird Faker guy who doesn't even understand what you're talking about and it just Shone through and then there's other guys that do it that they they clearly love it and those are the ones that are usually embraced for most part the pro the only problem from a business perspective is when the guy if the guy you're employing knows more about the thing than you do who's really in the power position right you see there's something really enticing about putting a puppet in it's true yeah and or putting an expert in who will do your bidding putting putting a yeah exactly an expert the way you see it a well-compensated expert that knows how to be a company man an expert actor yeah and when it comes to electronics and
things that's when it gets really squirely because if Sony knows that you've been beholding to LG and they try to lure you from the LG side and then and then LG finds out that you well you [ __ ] went over to Sony huh you goddamn turn coat like you you've relationships and the whole [ __ ] thing yeah how does that work like when you get stuff like I know Top Gear okay you know that show Top Gear from the BBC great show great show well they had a problem with Amic uh would do it on doing it in America because they [ __ ] on some cars I mean they Jeremy Clarkson takes open dumps on some cars Porsches like for years and years until like the 997 Turbo was the first Porsche he praised right he would [ __ ] on them how stupid they were and they were basically overgrown beetles and like I mean it would constantly do that and because of that like a lot of American car companies didn't want to donate their cars to them and they had a real issue doing that show on American TV we kind of dipped into that in the last conversation about how when your subject matter comes from a company like if you know if you want to go shoot a romcom movie the subject matter is that are the actors that you hire but in this case this these are our actors these are the this is what makes the video or breaks the video I mean I can sit there and talk about what I've heard all I want but without it in my hands I have no interpretation to share with you so it's a very big deal maintaining these relationships and making sure that you're going to get your hands on this stuff and therefore it is important what people say and how they say it and so this is I was ranting last show on Tech journalism and somebody had a really good point in the YouTube comments about journalism in general they're like wait a minute think about politics think about commercials on CNN think about the agenda of anybody trying to get a message out there if you can shroud it under the heading of journalism it's going to get past the filtration system that much easier see it's the best advertising real advertising is stuff you don't even know is there oo I like what you just said product placement I remember when I first found out about product placement I think it was on news radio they would uh there's two there's
different types of product placement one there's free product that they just give you free product and so you you drink their sodas on the set you wear their clothes like Nike will give you free sneakers if you're on a television show like things along those lines there's that kind and then there's also like where you are supposed to be holding up a Coca Cola while you're in the the like man we've got to find this [ __ ] killer before he kills again it's refreshing it's really helping me fight crime you know there that's like the low the low five version that's that's like the unsophisticated version of it but that unsophisticated version rears its ugly head pretty often sometimes offensively yeah on cable TV and the internet yeah the internet will react interet won't that product placement you [ __ ] the Internet won't put up with that [ __ ] and and ultimately I don't think it functions nearly as well I here's the thing I always get pissed off when I'm watching a movie or something and they've completely covered up the logos on everything because watching that movie for me is all about the suspension of disbelief I have to believe that what I'm looking at is potentially possible like if it's an Apple laptop but the Apple part is blurred out every reality show ever is that as bad as when it's a Sony show and everyone's got a Sony I was watching a movie the other day where everyone had Sony everything Sony VIO laptops the worst right now is music videos music videos is no longer a viable business to invest that much money in a video and all you're going to get is a little bit of AD Revenue off YouTube so they're all supported heavily by product placement you'll see Beats Audio you'll see special phones and like super heavy duty in the frame you know but for me if we can all agree that the audience is themselves is becoming more sophisticated we need to get better at hiding the Easter eggs in our entertainment because you're going to [ __ ] up my suspension of disbelief yeah using them so blatantly OB like I like I said with this movie I saw the other day every time they took a photograph it was a Sony camera every time what [ __ ] movie was it godamn it yeah you need to call this out right now yeah I'm trying
to remember what movie it is I just saw it yeah well here's the problem with the blatant call out is that all of a sudden as a consumer your guard is up right we are bombarded with brand messages on a daily basis and so because of it we build up this force field right I don't know I don't remember what the figure is you're inundated with thousands of brand messages before you even get to work in the morning type thing yeah and so your guard is up and so it doesn't pass into that other portion of that subconscious portion of your mind that controls your purchasing decisions so not only are you [ __ ] up my ENT tainment by not allowing for the suspension of disbelief but you're not ALS you're also not selling me your product because I saw what you did there right yeah and if I do buy it like I'm buying it in spite of what you did because exactly like it's so good I'll buy it anyway but God you idiots oh Deliver Us from Evil that's what it was what's it about oh it's a silly [ __ ] movie it's supposedly it's Eric B movie it's based on um uh the real life instances of a nework York City police detective who had a the serious thing where a guy was possessed like get the [ __ ] out of here it's so ridiculous so but and that had product placement interesting really blatantly obvious product placement it was pretty silly yeah like so much so like every time they use a phone you got to see the Sony logo clearly in place and that's a that see Brands themselves the people making those calls they're the wrong [ __ ] people they're the wrong people that there just some meeting somewhere and they're going okay we can have the phone in for three frames or eight frames we'll take eight frames because we want as much of this as we can get well it's not a question of quantity it's not you just got to plant the seed man well if you you're teaching them how to be [ __ ] I don't think you should I don't but I don't think that's [ __ ] at all because my life experience I don't care about ad like I I personally think good advertising is one of the most sophisticated art forms that exists right I have enormous respect for good advertising the problem with advertising it it's context like for example uh women they they're going to read vog Vogue magazine right Vogue magazine is as much about the people
they choose to let advertise in there as it is about anything they write on their own it's all about context the experience of picking it up going through the pages finding things that are attractive what's pulling you in and knowing that for three or four dollars you are now you are now uh uh completely consumed in the culture of all this really expensive stuff in these really expensive Brands and it's all connected see their narrative The Narrative on vog magazine is not about what they're putting into it it's about who else is there who's at the party Gucci's there Louis Vuitton is there Etc it's about building that entire thing up and for the mail perspective duPont Registry even better example duPont Registry is an adbook right you're buying an adbook everything in that magazine is an advertisement everything and we love it and there at every [ __ ] news stand you see a duPont Registry and it's got some new car on that's cost way too much [ __ ] money for 99.9999% of the people that ever buy that magazine to afford that's right probably more than that like the Bugatti Veyron a million5 and it's on the cover and you're like what who's this magazine for it's an ad for a car that cost more than most people's [ __ ] houses what else is the Rob report yes that's another one yeah oh the Rob report is everything though it's like yachts and planes vacation homes Hawaii and all this czy [ __ ] but that's the thing is like ultimately people want to be told what to get you know we don't have the time it's the reason that channels like mine exist you don't have the there are so many the product sphere is so huge now that keeping tabs on all of it is very difficult to do and in some ways we're reverting back to the informational type of advertising that existed in previous times you know you break the show and the guy comes out and he goes I'm I got the new Colgate toothpaste and the host of the show is actually showing you what it is and what it does right see advertising has moved so far in the abstract direction right where it's like you're advertising for beer but everyone's partying all the [ __ ] time it's like what am I buying I'm buying a party I'm buying a party in a bottle
right I'm buying I'm hanging out with these guys Lou that's their dream come true the problem is beer is not representative of the massive sphere that we have to purchase within we need to buy complicated [ __ ] too right and you can't just tell me my life's better because I have it well I need I need evidence man yeah that's the the place where you come in and then Marcus um anybody who that's how you say his name Marquez Marquez I say Marquez he will doesn't care if he's Marcus or Marquez um or if if we want to shout out his channel it's MKBHD awesome reviews awesome reviews but the the kind of indepth coverage of electronics just did not exist even on like the screen savers even on they just couldn't there's no way you can no one has that time and it's it highlights the issues that people have with traditional media you know it highlights the issues that people have with having a very specific time where you have to tune into something it's true that's that was a that's a huge barrier to creativity oh it's a mess because you have to build this messaging that's suitable for this huge amount of people at one time like you know the Super Bowl right you spend a million dollars for a commercial because everybody's paying attention at that time but it's not targeted at all right you're not reaching anybody specifically I mean maybe more dudes are watching it than women though I was amazed at the female figures there's a lot of women watching it too everyone in the house is watching it but ultimately is part of it is the shotgun approach part part of it is just getting the name of your goddamn thing to as many people as possible but I think real decision making happens at a at a much deeper level personally that's my feeling so awareness is point a but uh in knowledge is is the next step so fine make your introduction at the Super Bowl but that's not enough you can't stop there yeah and I think that also the kind of adverti like the difference between advertising and informative entertainment which is essentially what you're doing I mean you when when you're what I'm doing yeah but but brands are trying to do what I do now like Samsung will do their own unboxing videos really hell yes and who does it for them
some random employee scrubs yeah no seriously what so it's not someone you want a major mind blow look look one up later look up the I believe it was the S5 or the Note 3 a Korean girl did it for them you know not good not a good job it's the whole thing piece it feels the whole thing feels so bizarre again again you're hitting that you're hitting that force field you're hitting that sensor people are alerted you know we're all that's what I love about it I love that sophisticated advertising or not sophist I don't even know if it's just advertising but sophisticated content drives a more sophisticated viewer I love that that all these people out there that experience my content now are going to hold everything else up to that standard right you see yeah so you can you are literally pushing the entire Market Marketplace by not fitting within a particular Paradigm that's so interesting man and it's also kind of redefining how we view the information that we get on on each product like it used to be the only information that you got about a new Chevy truck was either reading about it in a magazine because you're so intrigued that you pick up a Chevy Truck magazine or you'd get an ad you'd see an ad for a Chevy truck now you go online in Need Chevy truck review every does and there's so many reviews for I've been looking at a new SUV my my lease is up on my SUV I'm thinking about something else to get or a truck or whatever and I'm reading all these different reviews and you get lost man it's almost an overload cuz you like look up the Toyota Land Cruiser okay the Land Cruiser Bing you binge on it you binge on it how much time did you spend oh lots of hours how how much time will you put into this purchase quite a bit more than anything else because it's my the family vehicle so it's I want to make sure they're safe and they're big and they can carry all our [ __ ] if we're going anywhere seats fold in a million different ways that's big you know entertainment things so I have a four-year-old and a six-year old they get their little party on the back seat and everything's groovy iPhone connection got to look at those new on no the new one the what's the thing called that's uh carplay carplay yeah what's that well that's what that's what
that's well we sort of had that conversation about Google they're doing their own version but Apple has their incar incar software and they have a few Auto automakers they've aligned with to put essentially an iPhone experience in your dash so you no longer have that dumb unit you know what they're doing also for a lot of back seats they have this thing where you lock in an iPad oh the kids watch [ __ ] it just paste it right in there the kids watch their iPad and they also have games that they can play on it and they also have their own individual ear Jack oh definitely or they can go Bluetooth within the device so they have wireless headphones you know Mommy and Daddy don't have to listen to the [ __ ] Frozen for the 100th time that's the thing about kids man it's cute it's adorable but once they love something they just want to watch it over and over and over and over and over I went through Tangled I went through a period of watching Tangled I probably saw it 100 times mine don't do that yet no no mine are American they're different than yours my kids are different they have different DNA no they're not you want to know mine my 2-year-old especially you got to remember they had like they've had all the technology all the video games since day one so no wal darf school for your kids [ __ ] no do you know about Wald darf school they make you play with wooden toys I had a friend who went there yeah no electronics yep yeah no no none of that make nice kids well that's subjective nice is a subjective word right I agree um but no listen I'm immersed in it I want to connect with them how am I in fact Will's been in a bunch of my videos my four-year-old lately uh which is amazing because half of this [ __ ] he sees it come in the house you know and and he doesn't get to participate in that part of it so I think I have the in that sense I have the coolest job that I get to do [ __ ] with him but um and most of and every time it's him driving it not me so for the audience it's like you're exploiting him or whatever this is him nagging me weeks on end let's make another video four years old he likes it he loves it loves it but they're so into this world that uh like YouTube for example they F give them an iPad they
know how to navigate YouTube and the craziest part and I and I've talked about this before as well is like the consumption thing that I'm in like the product world the the tech World it exists for different spectrums too like makeup and beauty and kids [ __ ] my they research their toys man they they research the stuff they want yeah so they're watching Playdoh sets they're watching car sets they're watching Lego Lego man so they're getting started even earlier than me not only that those toys get reviewed now the star rating system like if you go to Amazon and you look up children's toys you'll see a rating system and comments that the parents and the children will even like tell the parents what they like or don't like about a toy and the parents talk about like the build quality that's right which you used to you know you used to have to like read Consumer Reports or find out about right if it was even safe or dangerous toys that broke and stabbed you and you felt oh uh the high chairs call a [ __ ] high chair CU people are falling over or whatever now all that shit's out in the open it's amazing see but here's the thing is like if if the Blockbuster guys are on one end of the spectrum poor [ __ ] Blockbuster guys I keep on calling them out they still exist those are real guys they're listening right now probably not poor bastards anyway if the Blockbuster guys are on one end of the spectrum and my kids are on the other because I'm already completely sensitized to the traditional media messaging like it's not going to [ __ ] work on me it sure as [ __ ] isn't going to work on them yeah they know how to get around it not only that they're from the job how old are you 29 I'm 46 so obviously I dealt with a lot of years where there was no influence whatsoever by the common person with social media and the ability to spread information like a guy like you didn't exist when I was young my job didn't exist when I was in high school my guidance counselor couldn't have told me what the [ __ ] I was going to be doing cuz YouTube wasn't even a thing he probably wouldn't have told you to do even today a guide what guidance counselors can to tell you hey man you should make some YouTube videos that's I get that question more than anything else from young people how do I do what
you do it's the number one question just start doing it right that's it I mean those people that are asking that question you guys are Knuckleheads stop with the questions just go do something that's the problem with people they like to talk about [ __ ] so much they don't actually do [ __ ] I've been reading Stephen King's book on writing which is a great book I was reading it this weekend and um one of the great things about the book is he says like you can only talk about writing so much like you should just go write just get it done like a lot of times people and this is also in Steven pressfield's book The War of art a lot of times people will distract themselves from the actual work at Hand by talking about it so definitely no I I mean I completely feel that way in fact in my studio I tried to create it in such a fashion where the friction between me starting something and not starting something is at the lowest level possible you've done the same thing here obviously I mean Jesus you just sit down and go you know and that's the key because human beings we will naturally find ways out of doing what we know we're supposed to be doing but this is easy to do this is like out of all the things that I do that require me to do it whether it's writing being the most difficult stand up being the least difficult this is the easiest stand up being the least difficult oh oh to get me to do oh okay I I love doing standup it's really fun right you know it's probably the most difficult to get right this is probably the easiest out of all the things that I do to get right I don't know but out of all things that I do no no no it might be to you but I mean to the average person I think this format is it it requires a certain openness about yourself because to to do a set are you re are you revealing as much about yourself in a comedy set as you are in a three-hour conversation you definitely reveal more in a three-hour conversation I would think I would think so too you can when you do 500 of them that's what I'm saying yeah kind of get a sense and and a lot of people I know the barrier that's holding them back in the first place is insecurity about who they are or what they have to share or whether or not anyone gives a [ __ ] well that's a
much tougher place to put them in this seat where they're expected to show who they are for 3 hours instead of mastering this really perfect little box this little thing that represents them right like I think uh I make most of my videos are 3 to 5 minutes long and I think a person could listen to this podcast right here and know more about me than if they watched 500 of them oh most certainly what's the longest you've ever done a video for is anything that's like really complex that warrants much longer uh you know you can get up into like 10 15 maybe 15 like what would be 15 like a new phone or something like really complicated some kind of comparison like something versus something else but you don't like limit yourself like you well there's just listen if you're you have to be smart in anything that you that you do if you're investing a lot of time in it and so there is definitely a retention issue we if we're willing to identify the fact that consumption habits are changing and the web is the driving force behind that that we also need to be cognizant of the fact that we need to fit within a certain fit within certain boundaries even though those boundaries are loose and no one's going to [ __ ] tell you one way or the other a lot of the conversations I have and brainstorming that I do is about hyperfocusing and iterating and finding better ways of reaching people people and we just I think a lot of us I'm speaking I guess for the community as a whole have figured out that 3 to 5 minutes is just what makes sense three to five minutes is a song Length as well yeah it's a really weird it's really weird that it lines up that way three minutes is what they say right songs like something yeah I for sure something weird uh we don't have uh YouTube up there right now but like if you look at the YouTube interface it's a lot of thought goes into the the way things are laid out people freak out whenever anything changes and why the [ __ ] is that there Google stupid people love saying [ __ ] like that yeah YouTube does a pretty decent job of setting up like if you watch click on one of those videos Brian like one of your videos you would look on the right other that's that's what sends you down those [ __ ] rabbit holes man
that's where [ __ ] gets weird but here see so here's the thing about this Frame right now that we're looking at at what point does this video become less enticing than the juicy [ __ ] on the right right you see he full screened it so he kind of killed it but well full screening it definitely does full screening it does right but why is YouTube not by default a full screen interface well because they're about view times as a whole yeah did we talk about this last time did they did we I don't remember but that totally makes sense the way they're designed I think it's the perfect design also the comments as inan and [ __ ] and [ __ ] aggravating as they can be they engage people and get people to spend more time partic there's some folks that just do not have an outlet and I think that's sometimes reflected in the angry and anger and vitriol that you see exhibited on a YouTube page it's not even representative often times of what they're actually reviewing it's it's a reflection of their own life is that people don't feel like they heard they don't feel like they matter they don't feel like they have a voice and then finally when they do have a voice like yeah what they're saying is no one wants to [ __ ] me my boss is an [ __ ] I picked the shitty career you know I I don't like where I live I sort of feel like people within those communities don't get enough recognition though so like which communities so like my let's say my best viewers let's say your best viewers anyone's the best they're all the same to me L the [ __ ] out my all awesome people get out of my face right now how dare you listen there are people who are [ __ ] Joe Rogan die hards those people matter more to you than the 100 thousands 100,000 others that are fair weather type viewers they're evangelists for you they're out there saying to their buddies you [ __ ] hear the podcast go check out the podcast you need to hear this podcast check out this guest he had on so on and so forth don't tell them they're important then they're going to want more attention no no no what are you doing [ __ ] up everything there's a way that there's a way this can work there's a way that it can work yeah mushrooms everybody's got to get on mushrooms together the same no no no no
here's how it works we need to find a way to reward the most important in our own communities okay because here's why it's not fair that they're out there as evangelists for Our Brands and yet they get nothing out of it what are you talking about they get the entertainment out of it that's the whole exchange you give them something other than the entertainment then it changes and morphs that's fine they get the entertainment out of it but so does somebody else who shuts the [ __ ] up immediately after they watch it the part they're doing on their own time is not about the entertainment anymore right but sh don't you do that as well and don't I do that as well and should but you talk about things that you enjoy and the the benefit of that is that you support the things that you enjoy like Game of Thrones for instance I'm a big evangelist of Game of Thrones I can't stop talking they've never paid me no I'm not they wouldn't did I say pay what do you mean by reward there are ways to recognize without necessarily paying somebody like who's let's put it this way who's your most engaged Twitter follower who do you talk to more than anyone else I don't think I have a one you probably do we don't have an ACC we don't have an accurate way of figuring out I would like you know what would be interesting to me to know who has tweeted at Joe Rogan more than any other user you're going to attract a psycho Lew it's me I am the one I am Highlander no you're essentially sending out a bad signal to crazy people that's who you are I'm not calling all crazy people I'm not in the real world stuff like this has existed for the longest time like like take for example a forum a forum is not in the real world but it's an older platform in a in a forum Game of Thrones sent me a box see that counts that [ __ ] counts by the way that's true well they did that after I talked about them forever that [ __ ] counts they didn't just send it just to me either by the way okay no no I know um but like what are you talking about like in what what way would you reward them so what do you got planned in the old days on a forum Forum in the old days what what old days you mine's been around since 1998 I thought I had the oldest Forum on the
net or it's one of the oldest forums to me when I get in a forum I feel like I'm in the old internet okay and the reason is because social media to me has sort of sort of absorbed some of what forums used to be for socializing right right so I kind of look at social networks as like Forum 2.0 or whatever right but anyway Forum still exist and that's cool but on a forum the people who participate like crazy in some forums they have they have like five stars or something right or they're uh reps a contributor a rep a moderator Mo like moderators take lots of pride in being moderators even though they're not getting paid to be moderators right now granted you can have circumstances where things get [ __ ] creepy and weird that's that's going to happen that's inevitably going to happen but for each one of them there's a hundred cool people who want to participate in your community and just get a little bit of recognition for that participation like I really want to know who has tweeted at unbox therap therapy more than anyone else I want know who that person is not because not because I want to stalk them but because I want to find a way to to thank them for stalking you see you're making you're taking the totally negative approach on this I can't help it it's right there be optimistic be optimistic normally you're the optimistic one right on the podcast and the the person in this seat is the pessimist not necessarily I but I think that I agree in in form of what you're saying um but I think that what the the Beauty and the purity of the relationship between someone who likes your show and someone who comments on your show someone who enjoys your show is that your show gets more recognition more hits and it continues to grow and they get better content because of and they enjoy it they enjoy it it makes their life interesting you know I try as much as as possible like when I'm if you look at my Twitter one of the things that is about my Twitter that's important to me is anything that I find that's interesting online I share right so not everything because it would Bex therapy on constant stream I put that up I'm just [ __ ] how dare you but it would be a constant stream of videos and
content I can't do I can't do everything but things that I think are fascinating like um or important like uh I put up something on from Science magazine about uh widespread contamination of the marine environment by microplastics which I think is really a sad and of course yeah you know reversible but needs to be addressed part of our society and the use of plastics and our relationship with the oceans things along those lines um sexy photos on Facebook may cause women to be seen as less competent that's from the Science World Report that's another thing that I tweeted believe fascinating right interesting so I put lot of that online so I feel like that is you're adding value for people yeah definitely and it gives them an incentive also selflessly to tweet me these interesting things so that I retweet them because I do that all the time too follow yeah yeah a lot of followers and recognition and people you know people like to that's a perfect example I mean that's part of the reason that I love Twitter yeah is that you they know you see them but see in YouTube comments I mean you can reply it's impossible to reply to everyone but on Twitter you see one one guy gets retweeted you think well I could get retweeted at some point later something that's been a big conversation lately is the favorite button are you a fan of the favorite button no it doesn't make any sense to me yeah well it doesn't make a lot of sense to a lot of people people people use it for different reasons some people use it to save tweets yeah but that's not the way I I use it at all I could care less about saving tweets most of the time I could use it that way but the majority of how I use it is as a recognition piece so you're cool you sent me some cool [ __ ] I can't retweet it right now but I see you but why why can't you retweet it it's just as easy to press retweet as is to press favor because ultimately you need to curate your feed if you retweet everything everyone sends you you're [ __ ] right but if you see someone's feed in favorites come up no no so like so what Ian no favorites well favorites do come up but it's kind of you have to go there to get it right meaning if you favorite something it's not going to go on your feed right so uh favorites are a little tougher to get your hands on I what
you're saying so you're letting someone know that you see them you give them a response by favoring their tweet but you don't put it on your feed so they can they know that you see them that makes sense actually that's the best use of it that I've ever heard I do it as a bookmark where that's how it was in that's what it was intended for yeah that's how I've used it that's the only way i' it's intended as a bookmark and there's this growing group of people I don't know how many but when I talk about it on Twitter a lot of people said they're doing the same thing it's a movement to try and generate essenti a like button on Twitter where it doesn't exist okay so the favorite becomes a like button sort of I like that I like that because I could actually use that way more because the way I use it now I just I just don't I can't there's no way I can retweet everything that comes my way or even see everything that comes your way no it's but if you're sitting on Twitter and somebody takes the effort to to like they thought of you they saw this cool thing they thought of you you hit the star button and it's like there's an exchange there there some recogn it's not a dollar value but that's kind of I'm talking about I'm talking about nurturing a community that makes sense that totally makes sense that that um I I think nurturing a community also comes from being engaged from you know reading your comments and maybe commenting on them in another podcast or another uh video cast whatever you would like to call it or um Twitter you know engaging with people as much as possible answering questions as much as possible but with me me there's a certain balance of engaging and still getting work done like my my thing is all about producing content yeah I produce hours of a podcast three days a week most of the time and then there's the writing of comedy and of random thoughts that that have to take place if it doesn't take place my comedy will suffer and probably my conversations that I have on podcast will suffer I need to think about ideas by myself as well as have them in a a conversation with people and then there's also the researching of [ __ ] the reading of Articles the watching of documentaries the reading of magazines or books the amount of time that's left over to just
engage with people online is pretty minimal and if you change the balance in any way all the content that you put out suffers right and I think it's easy to forget that the content in and of itself is a communication yes meaning that like it's it's similar to what I said before about the Best Buy thing how essentially we took a traditional model of this guy in his Best Buy store and we said this is much more Dynamic and and it's much more streamlined to take one guy who really knows and give that to everyone well video is this way of having one message suitable or sent to hundreds thousands millions of people whereas it's a personalized tweet I'm sorry if you were to sit there all day and answer every tweet you ever got you'd never make another thing in your life exactly and ultimately the reason people care about you in the first place is because of all the cool [ __ ] you made yeah there's a balance there's a balance and it may be who knows maybe it's like a weekly ask me anything sort of a thing like they do on Reddit like I've done a couple those Reddit ones definitely some of the guys that we had with us are big proponents of ask me videos as well yeah and you just you get thousands of questions in on Twitter and you pick a few and address them it's huge yeah I think that might be a better way to do it even because writing things like one of the issues that I have with blog entries and I do enjoy reading people's blogs but one of the issues that I have is that you if you give someone a free you know a page where it's just an open platform to write things and to write about a subject they're not opposed you know it's just their thoughts and it's a way to express thoughts but they might be saying some incorrect Incorrect and not factual [ __ ] or distorted [ __ ] and they use that as the base for other statements and they use that as a base to further expand upon these thoughts that were based almost entirely on something incorrect in the first place or distorted in the first place or biased in the first place so it creates this piece like say if someone was writing something about you like a really biased piece about Lewis from unbox therapy thanks for giving him the idea but you know what I'm saying if they did do that and a lot of it was based on some incorrect assumptions
about you and some incorrect information or distorted perceptions probably it probably exists sure I'm sure it does but the my point being that that's a really bad way to communicate ideas it's it's good for just trying to shame someone or trying to you know just throw mud on their name but or to praise someone or to pump someone up and create them you know create some AR but the the best way to express an idea is to have that idea sort of vetted out with another person yeah you know and that that doesn't really that I that doesn't really happen when you do it in that form no yeah and and another thing too like well building on that is the fact that video in and of itself is the closest thing we have to real life to actually meeting somebody so you can you know you can take all of those things that are happening within communication that aren't necessarily the words themselves and you can put those into the overall sort of scenario and and the line that you're going to draw based on their perspective you guys were talking recently about uh your buddy on Twitter who had the radio show and said some stuff and then got kicked off The radi show yeah and you know cont how how context in so many ways dictates interpretation so if video is the best Right video is this modern form of communication and writing is [ __ ] super old mhm you you look at the you first of all one of them's way better but look at the reason why writing was invented writing was invented because you didn't have what was your alternative right but I don't think it's way better well because I think writing has its place to for some things it's not yeah I don't think I agree with you I don't think it's a question of better or worse but look what television did to newspapers M yeah or the web did to newspapers right so I it's one it's not better or worse or maybe it's the comic book discussion all over again something will win out it will happen is TV better for people than newspapers it doesn't really matter anymore it's a moot point because people chose TV right but that's just because it's passive you just sit there that's that's right and it just comes to you when giving the choice between video here's something that Google's testing is instead of giving
you text-based search results on a Google search they give you video results they give you you can you Google something and there's a video option for Google to serve up they'll grab it that's a lot of my traffic comes from Google searches not YouTube searches so Google knows that their objective is to answer your question in the way that you want to have it answered if that makes sense right the bet the most suitable format for you to ingest and often times that means video because retention times are better on video people I don't want to say are lazy people just like sophisticated delivery models like documentaries for me are an amazing way to learn well it's also you can't hide when if someone writes something in print but they're full of [ __ ] it's hard it's hard to see that hard exposing less about themselves how much would you like if you ever read like you ever read a really crazy Tumblr site right and you're like oh my God I would so much rather hear you say this yeah you know like like some crazy radical feminist ranting anti- male ranting but here's the thing about that too is when you write something it's not it's nothing like Plastering your face on something right I think these people wouldn't say half the [ __ ] they said if it was their face in front of everyone most likely yeah and if you would Expo the craziness would come out of it you would see it be like oh you're a [ __ ] banana head yeah oh sorry I can stop watching this now now I know what I'm dealing with or I can watch this with a More Level perspective I know you're nuts that's why I'm saying video is the ultimate the ultimate in terms of bits and bites yeah think about the information I write down on a bunch of [ __ ] on this notepad if I would to put that into bits and bites take a photograph or type it out that's nothing think an SMS message in terms of size is no there's not very much data there yeah true if I want that's what held the web back that's why newspapers exist that's why we had to send each other letters we didn't have the bandwidth now that we have the bandwidth we can transport ourselves the closest thing we can get to it across the other way and so we have to stand up for the [ __ ] that we actually believe in we have to be authentic we have to all these other things immediately fall into line
because it's so much harder to fake when you have access to all that extra data well then how come like a sort of 15 second thing on on Twitter hasn't taken off like a 140 character thing like a 15sec video thing oh like fine and yeah like those you know I mean they kind of silly Instagram's pretty big though yeah right but I mean how many people Express themselves on it they have videos where they do things like they'll skateboard jump woo or they'll [ __ ] ride a motorcycle woo you know they'll have that but how many of them are of people staring at the camera and saying something for 140 charact for 140 characters you know there's a huge Community I mean Instagram is humongous no but that Instagram is mostly pictures mostly pictures with context underneath it how many why if we're talking about the purest expression the closest thing you can get to an actual person being an actual video I like this why isn't that taking off where is it a pure video communication YouTube fine yeah but 15 seconds why does why do you why do you want it to be 15 seconds because yeah that's why I know that's why because I know that but because of like one of the things that made Twitter Stand Down the fact that it's 140 for concision I see what you're saying so can we force concision with video is that possible well we're talking about ultimate expression right the Ultimate Experience of of somebody and who they are and what they are what you do over here three hours you can't if if we're agreeing that it's all about Faking It or Not Faking It M it's only going to get astronomically harder the longer you have to hold it up right I agree with that but what I'm saying is take out that I I definitely agree that to get across a more elaborate point of view or discuss something in depth you would want a YouTube video and that's the benefit of YouTube but like what about something where I guess a lot of Twitter is a sharing of links but take away the sharing of links I went to see the new Captain America movie today oh my god did it suck a fat dick boom that's it Vine but do they use it for that yeah people use it for that most of Vine is like comedy stuff the vast majority people joking around little tiny 7sec skits right like some of the popular
ones that I've recognized is this thing where people really like Jordan shoes I don't know you probably maybe he saw this passed around where if a guy's really into sneakers if he gets a little mark on his Jordans he freaks out you know that kind of Paradigm that kind of whatever whatever that is so that's like a thing but on Vine there's there's some channels that are dedicated to that like what I would do you know I don't know really but funny in a funny way whatever a skit I'm doing a terrible job of describing I use Vine all the time like I was pretty much reviewing Spider-Man 3 when I was watching it using Vine and Instagram and stuff like that why you were watching it so you watching I really I think I think there's an issue right now of expectations and I think that when a person logs on to Twitter they have obvious expectations of what there's what's going to be there the context of it and I think that for right now YouTube is synonymous with video you know and it's going to be difficult for any player at any length to come in there and change that I started taking pictures tweets of drawings of uh uh writings rather that I made I said I was going to do it for the rest of my tweets from now on it's just even a picture of [ __ ] that I wrote down so people could see my handwriting but I only did it once yeah well I was like this is stupid longer to write things well not only that but the problem is there that a lot of what makes the web so good in finding [ __ ] you care about is the fact that text is searchable yeah you take a picture all that data is gone that's true but what I was going to say is how infuriating would it be to people if you made a YouTube video of a bunch of [ __ ] you wrote like page after page things you wrote that was a thing was is really the people super depressed people hold up a thing and it says oh I see they don't have a voice and then they throw the page and left yeah did you ever see that one where a woman left a job and she wrote this uh the P page after page like a tumbler thing of all these cards like [ __ ] on her boss and then so the boss wrote back and did the exact same thing same form and she was dancing around and [ __ ] too annihilated her yeah yeah she well she was wearing like sexy outfits and stuff like that and he was talking about how [ __ ] stupid she was
and incompetent and a bad employee and selfish but see that's interesting when see people take old Tech and introduce it into a new format the reason that they're doing it is because they're they're trying to imply I don't know if they're they try and make it more serious than it is but ultimately I think it's because that person is not the best at expressing themselves in the real form well that's weird because the original version of that was Bob Dylan Bob Dylan with that song what was that song that he did that there was a music video an old Bob Dylan music video where and then in excess did it seen I've seen it do you think Bob Dylan was great at expressing himself oh yeah you don't think he was great at expressing himself no no see but I appreciate abstract uh representation but it's it's not the same as sitting in a room with somebody right we never sat in a room with Bob Dylan that's true good point but that was his art form was expressing himself through music he didc he did a great job there you know and if you look at look at the lyrics and whatnot incredibly sophisticated and deep and meaningful and all the rest of it but I think I I don't know I'm drawing a separation myself I think art has always been a way for those for people to communicate in a format that's more comfortable for them you're going to go you're going to go to their party they're not going to come to yours talking is something we all have to do right you know it's it's interesting as well is if you went back to Bob Dylan's hay day you went to the 60s and the 70s and said uh okay we're going to make short films where you just talk about [ __ ] and then people could take it and watch it they be like what seems brutal right it seems terrible it seems like why would rather just do a song it's like why would we want our why would we want our Bob Dylan in that form but it's the same for celebrities nowadays it's like once upon a time a celebrity was like Vapor like what are they doing their spare time now Charlie Sheen arguing with his ex-wife on Twitter yeah exactly do they eat Cheerios like what like are they real you know you know but now it's this exposure in so many ways has forced them to be
real people for us and we can [ __ ] all over them yeah you know well there [ __ ] all over them also we have the access to [ __ ] all over that's right that's right and and again it's much like the traditional brand thing coming into YouTube it's like the traditional people have to come to our party now you see they just got a profile like anyone else well sort of and then there's people that exploit that opening like if you have like an article a TMZ article about Kim and Kanye that is essentially a portal for hate that's all that is what that exists is you open up the comments and just let the floodgates of hell just open up on the photo of Kim and con kissing in front of some [ __ ] Fountain somewhere so [ __ ] up to me that people give a [ __ ] about that give a [ __ ] what I it's probably second only to porn wow if you thought about like the amount of Internet space that's used to just [ __ ] on random targets of hate whether it's like some ridiculous celebrities like it used to be Paris Hilton and that [ __ ] just evaporated she van don't people realize that piggy backing on that is so [ __ ] low who the people that are commenting or the people that are making it all of it well the people that are making it with TMZ or any of these they're making a lot of money and it's it's a have you ever seen there's a u Morgan Spurlock has that show inside man you ever see that show no I've seen his documentaries though good show um it's on CNN and he does a bunch of different jobs like in just will go inside and see what it's like to be in different people's lives and one of them he did was he hung out with a bunch of Paparazzi and the way they see it it's like look this is a gig you know you wanted to be famous this comes with the gig you know what let's leave them out let's go boil it down all the way to the consumption because that's what drives everything else that's that's the fuel right why is it why is that something the human beings want to consume cuz it's fascinating why is that fascinating we're stupid as [ __ ] why why does it matter if why does it matter what Kim Kardashian and Kanye West are doing well this has actually been studied by sociologists and they their conclusion is that gossip was a way of keeping monitoring Behavior and the sort of reactions to our own
behavior and how people perceived Us in the community and it's sort of to elevate themselves by trial and error what we talked about earlier learning from your mistakes well those mistakes some times are socially being ostracized because your Acts or your words or you know those things existed in communities kind of keep people in check right well now we live in communities where I've been in the same house for 10 years I barely know my [ __ ] neighbors dude I mean barely I I wait there's a few people in my neighborhood that I'm pretty friendly with that I've seen over the times we've had conversations but we don't hang out no one no one's knocking on my door and coming over for dinner this you know this we have these weird environments that we live in now and we have this desire to find out what everyone else is up to and the only real way to do that is through gossip and when there's no gossip you just you go to the gossip of the kings and queens and who's the kings and queens movie stars rock stars those people that you see in low form of communication though it well but so compelling so then it becomes well if it's so low why do so many people engage in it what is the draw what is the there's some sort of Base human attraction to finding out what Tiger Woods texted to all those freaky [ __ ] on his uh his Hit List you know there's some strange thing to finding out guess I guess it makes people feel better about themselves gets them excited they finding out some dirt right but at the same time they can point and say you're the [ __ ] up one so my life's more normal or my life's better well it takes the focus on their [ __ ] up remember when Britney Spears was like imp ploting or whatever it was shaved her head and went nutty and it was an opportunity for people to point in and say look how [ __ ] crazy she is the photos of her with a [ __ ] umbrella wielding it at photographers exactly yeah yeah it definitely makes you especially when it's that bad when it's do you remember David Hasselhoff his daughter released a video of him unbelievably drunk like scrunching around for a hamburger it was so insane you see this poor [ __ ] guy on throws of sickness see sh scrambling up food like that I see [ __ ] like that as traps like if I'm on the web that's like a
bear to me get stuck in it you know that that link bait and [ __ ] you know if if see the web is consumed in these tidbits and all you need to do is grip a a person on the lowest common denominator and you win it's like if the consumers themselves don't man the [ __ ] up and see a trap when it's there and not click on it you know I mean obviously it's it's obviously a discussion that you're not you can't get to the bottom of but but it's like you are essentially supporting the kind of [ __ ] you don't really like I was reading this thing on uh pornography recently or watching this thing it's a Ted Talk on pornography somebody sent it to me on Twitter and they said this guy's the biggest white knight ever and I expected it to be just like a Tumblr website where some dude was like arguing about being a male feminist or something something along those lines but it was a guy who actually made these like pretty intense detailed points about what's the the real issue with watching pornography and it was pretty fascinating cuz it was really indepth and he was talking about a lot of [ __ ] that's you know pretty undeniable and and uniquely undeniable like one of the things he was talking about is that the that a lot of sex in um porn is nothing like sex in real life in that there's no hands and what he meant was there's no caressing and massaging rubbing and holding and all the thing that people do when they make love they they make love notice how I say that very sensitive instead there like people are doing things at odd angles he was a little white nighty for sure but there's it's undeniable that when you take no don't just have this idea in your head there might be something wrong with watching porn but have it so much so that you've concocted a TED talk and you you presented yourself as this moral alternative this moral and ethical alternative to all the other men out there there there's certainly like a progressive brownie Point sort of uh pull of that initiative something regarding pornography thing though that I think is interesting and maybe a reason why from a discussion standpoint there's something there is because at Once Upon a Time the consumption of porn I don't know when I was a kid I guess I don't know because I sort of missed it you had
to physically go and get a videotape or magazine well I'll tell you son cuz I was around back then when I was young they had video stores and this is before Blockbuster even took off it was Mom and Pop video stores and you would go to these local video stores and you know I used to they' watch you walk into the back sometimes you have memberships to these video stores remember those and you had a card they would punch your card and every 10th video you got a [ __ ] discount or a free video um there was a like you would push beads aside or like saloon doors and you would go into this area and it was all dicks and [ __ ] asses and and mostly not like really hardcore [ __ ] like you're seeing today right like they would actually like the covers of these these videos would sort of be concocted knowing that they were going to be placed on a shelf somewhere that someone could kind of just get to as opposed to typing in you know suckmy cock.com or whatever the hell it is and you're going to go right there you know what to expect American pornography consumption pre- internet post internet well I think it's a lot like our gossip consumption it's we have access to it we're going to consume more of it but the amplification level on porn I think is like nothing else I think it's like both of them I think both of them have massive amplification levels because of the access let's put it this way but you could always go to a grocery store and walk out the door with a gossip magazine super easy access the saloon door thing I mean there's like what two in every town I it's was it was in a corner somewhere that's true but a but a magazine is very finite you know maybe there's two or three of them on the Shelf yeah you're done true you get from front to back and you have to stop consuming it there's not a lot of stuff there there there are parallels there I mean I think probably the pornography one for H I think both of them are based on kind of [ __ ] similar they're both based on some how about this gossip is porn for girls for women huh but it's not I yeah I don't think it is porn for I don't know well there's obviously still porn for women but I'll tell you one thing you can be sure of if there's a man who's really into gossip that guy's a [ __ ] that's a
fact if there's a man out there who's really into like this girl's shoes or that girl's dress and look at her stupid car like I think there's I think there's gossip I think guys and girls like gossip for the same reason that like if you go to a movie and you're you like Brad Pit movies you also want to know what Brad pits doing in real life like is he getting doing drugs and but that's only if you like someone who's movie star when you talk about Kim and Kim Kardashian and her family they don't they don't do anything one of the Biggers ever that he's a recent addition to that [ __ ] circus I'm going to use this opportunity before that yeah please do before that there was nothing I mean if you stop and think about it she contributed nothing all she was doing was being a point of Gossip so in that sense she's way bigger gossip star than any Angelina Jolie story you know the if you looked at the number of people that are paying attention to Kim Kardashian versus paying attention to Angelina Jolie I I'd be willing to bet as like five or six to one in Kim's favorite so I think it's more of oh look at her and if you can do things to keep eyes on you you that's your business whether it's hate or love your business is to keep that that sort of weird gossipy energy up you know yeah I mean I I go to it every day to watch because it's what do you go to watch m z and stuff like that I I I love that [ __ ] cuz it's just like oh my god look what happened here look what happened there you know and it's just because you watch them on TV and you watch them in movies and like make believer and so it's weird seeing them outside of make believer with oh [ __ ] Tom Cruz has got AIDS you know so I mean you can't say that allegedly but that's not even true Scientologist cured him of it he wore that big gold medal around his neck by the way do you follow Yoko Ono on Twitter of course I don't should I yeah of course write down a sad memory put it in a box burn the box and sprinkle the ashes in a field give some ashes to a friend who shared the sadness oh my God yeah your friend who had a sad memory here's some ashes like that's rude mimo she has 4.7 million [ __ ] Twitter followers that's hilarious that shows you how Twitter is crazy Yoko Ono has more than 4 million Twitter followers
cuz she used to [ __ ] one of the best musicians ever imagine that's hilarious look at this one uh imagine what would happen to your room when you move away imagine if there is anything in the room that you could take with you when you die shut the [ __ ] up just shut the [ __ ] up how many retweets how many retweets call your answer phone every day and complain and moan about your life and people around you listen to the tape at the end of the year what wow she doesn't even know how to say voicemail call your answer phone that's not an answer phone dummy it's goddamn voicemail what planet are you living on you can't agree to the same descriptives could that be a translation thing maybe what she speaks English well sort of the [ __ ] she speaks she's been around she's been speaking English longer than I've been alive okay yeah but people never really fully grab it if they didn't you know I don't understand how people could be in this country for so long and communicate with PE like I have people in my life that I know um that work in certain places that I visit that speak Spanish mostly and I've been communicating with them for years and they still don't know how to talk English I've met them for like how hard is it man is it that [ __ ] hard my daughter's four and I can talk to her I've known you for 15 [ __ ] years I've been coming to this place and I still can't understand you but that that exposes this thing we were talking about earlier about how when you're young you have a cap capabilities to learn that will never be be replicated again that's not true either because I know people that have picked up languages late into their 50s and they're [ __ ] awesome at it well I know people that always going to be outliers those going to be special people but the average immigrant is is never going to sound like a fluent person who grew up here yeah but that's mostly because they keep themselves in communities that are other immigrants and they speak their native language help they don't attempt to do it but if you immersed yourself in whatever culture Spanish culture and want to learn how to speak I know people that have learned in their adulthood learn how to speak Spanish they speak perfect Spanish they just chose to do it it's not impossible to do
it's like it's all just a matter of focus if you can get good at swimming into your 30s very few you'll see very few Western people learn how to speak Asian languages right but I think that is more of a time and interest thing than it is of an ability yeah I sense a challenge here I'm not doing it I have no time and I have no interest see I just sort of proved my point well yeah but I don't know I I think a lot of people like to walk around too and say hey I learned another language and who's testing it I'm not testing their Theory I go okay fine you can you can tell somebody you're hungry in another language good great right who's who's really patrolling that well there's a com Canadian comedian I don't know his name but uh he learned Chinese learned mandrin I think it was and and went to China and started doing standup in Chinese and there was a video that they put online it was fascinating because a white guy yeah a white guy I the accent was amaz obviously I don't know whether or not he's saying the right but he was talking like he was from China I'm sure I mean if you're going to put somebody in into a test to figure out if they're actually fluent in the language put them on a stage in front of a bunch of people and see if he can make them laugh you know like if if the guy was able to put that together I'd say he's probably pretty fluent well I think it was also like a situation where he just recognized that there was a big Market that wasn't being tapped into like here's millions of people they have this new Freedom now billions yeah billion how many billions are in China One at least one right at least one yeah so all these people that don't have access to stand-up comedy you know in their language really there's no such thing as Chinese stand-up comedy I wouldn't say there's no such thing but it's certainly not nearly as popular as English-speaking comedy is in Canada so there's a lot of goddamn Canadian comedians like if you wanted to learn standup comedy and you wanted to perform it in Canada there's many many many many venues many places to do it but there's also many comedians whereas if you wanted to learn Chinese and just tap I mean maybe his motivation to learn Chinese was totally unrelated to his doing standup in I mean might be just
person like my friend John was like super into into languages he spoke like five different languages he just loved learning languages and he would practice them with people that you know spoke it it could be that but also it's like the amount of competition that you have over there is probably none yeah Advantage Fu well there a huge advantage to being white over there in general I know a couple buddies went over there to teach English in Korea and it's like you're a stud you know whoa because you're you're the guy you know what I mean you're the guy that they see on TV you know you're you you you're Tom Cruz for a minute really yeah because they're really homogeneous societies like you walk around Japan you're not seeing this mixed this mixup of ethnicity that you have in North America we have we have a very strange cultural experience compared to the rest of the world yeah that kind of makes sense it kind of makes sense in the fact that there's so much content again that gets distributed by Americans but that's also why it's really crazy in Korea they the amount of people getting surgery to change their appearance to a western appearance that's crazy woo boy we've gotten into it a few times on the podcast we won't get into it again because we shared a bunch of links and a bunch of uh images but it's apparently as popular as like braces know like that people get like some serious plastic surgery India they try to get lighter as well you know what they use in a lot of those um those places they use some sort of an injection that uh heard [ __ ] chemical hold on a second I've said it before and I know what it is Philippines they do it yeah yeah yeah yeah lighter skin I forget what it's called it's actually also an amino acid or something like that yeah but it's it's harmful right um it's it's actually a good thing for you it's like healthy um if you take it like as a a dietary supplement what the [ __ ] is it called glutathione glutathione which is uh glutathione is what is it um originally used for I forget what it's originally used for but it's also been shown to Aid in the body's um absorption of alcohol so uh Dr Mark Gordon who had been on my podcast before told me that it would greatly decrease the effect that alcohols on on on your body the glutathione H helps in some way to uh
digest alcohol it's an antioxidant imp plants animals fungi and some bacteria uh preventing damage to important cellular components caused by reactive oxygen species such as free radicals and peroxides so um somehow or another they inject this stuff into their body and it makes you th uh makes you turn more pale in some some strange way the stuff Michael Jackson was on I don't know what the [ __ ] they do and they actually have pills too I don't know skin whitening at home H there's a video there a video how to whiten your skin after eight weeks I managed to get my skin a few turns whiter and also got rid of my freckles whoa what else are you doing what are you doing your eyes what are you doing your [ __ ] brain what's going on there I don't know man like that's a that's a really far into the Spectrum kind of scenario in which you can you can immediately see the Western influence on the rest of the world in a physical way well how about people that tan though what about people that get nutty and they they don't feel comfortable unless they're super super tan that's a is that how many people are into that a lot yeah remember tan lady love tanning remember that tan lady that was on TV she was like s in insanely dark she even took her daughter tanning and burned her daughter yeah but do is there such a thing as white people trying to look like some other race there's such a thing as white people trying to look darker for sure well darker but you know what I mean like eye surgeries or ah [ __ ] I guess everyone well a Brazilian guy just got an operation recently to look Korean get the [ __ ] out of here yeah yeah it was a big news piece but got some PL surg people on in on the planet I guess every everyone's tried something not only they tried it there's probably a forum about it there's a Reddit sub Forum it's nasty yeah you're look people are and also it's like what we were talking about before there's a lot of people that are just not they're not comfortable with who they are so they think that maybe if I look Korean I'd feel better maybe if I was a few Shades whiter I'd feel better right I think it gets particularly strange or interesting when it's a huge group of
people that are doing it you know what I mean when you have when you have a trend is when it sort of changes yeah and that's also what we're talking about it's like the where's the content coming from most of it from the West so that this these these features this Brad Pit face that you're seeing on your big screen over and over again sort of making you want why are my eyes so small but that's crazy the physical manifestation of influence the physical manifestation wow but isn't it all the physical manifestation of influence when it comes to like cultural ideas what what do you choose to wear what are your clothes how about you put a plate in your lip who how'd that get started how you got a bone through your nose who the [ __ ] else has a bone through their nose is that your thing you're the only guy no it's a tradition well who the [ __ ] we look great we have bones in our nose you do not look great come here yeah so ultimately we all do things because of other people and what they're doing well there was a thing on um this television show uh where this guy was going to his uh uh guy was going to Africa and um he was visiting with these people that are regularly um being around crocodiles and they have these markings that they they scar their skin in the the form of crocodile like crocodile ridges and they have them across their body it's really crazy [ __ ] and they they sort of mimic the skin of a crocodile whoa yeah what's the what it's just a coming of age thing with men they they do this and it sort of represents strength and they cover themselves this these crocodile scars it was so weird to look at these choid scars all around this guy's body and this somehow another become a part of their culture like war paint or weird you know facial paint or or how about what we think of as normal when a woman wears ridiculous lipstick and blue colored eyeliner and you know lashes I got to say I'm happy as hell that that's not us like our our sex if you've ever watched it going down the way you saying it you like a [ __ ] assault like a woman's getting beat up by her makeup youever watch going down bro it's hard to watch it is it is you can't just get out of bed and get to your [ __ ] you just with your life like I put no thought I mean not no I mean I got to look in the mirror and
make sure I'm not [ __ ] up or for some reason you know but the idea that there's preparation just to leave the house MH facial preparation yeah and some women if they don't have their makeup on and another girl is around and she has her makeup on they get like upset like God I should have put my [ __ ] makeup on God I didn't put my makeup on you should have told me [ __ ] has her makeup on look at her lips they're crazy colors like from space look at her eyes she closes her eyes you see the heavens she's winning the heavens in her eyelids God damn it her skin is perfect it's covered in [ __ ] powder how dare she skin colored powder all over your yeah we loed out man we Nails we lucked out in all kinds of areas mhm except water how about urinating except how about Ur an that's awesome except we die in war more often we uh we have jobs that are far more dangerous we're more likely to be murdered right there's a lot of [ __ ] that's not so hot about being no you know what you know what else you have that you have to be tough to a degree like so well let's let's put it this way let's say uh growing up you know there's going to be circumstances in which you you could be physically threatened and that's socially acceptable for a woman it's really never I mean unless you're being threatened by another woman or or unless it's like an actual crime but if two boys who are 10 years old decide to Duke it out it's not a crime you know I think that's a lot of it is there's a real problem with people and and violent interactions that could a lot lot of the problems could be resolved with the introduction of martial arts early in people's lives like the amount of actual violence that you see like other than sparring in an actual martial arts environment is almost non-existent it's very very rare and a rare gym we see people arguing or fighting most of the time it's just you're you're getting it all out you're getting it all out of your system I agree with that but I I think what what maybe what I should have said was this idea that a man needs to stick up from like all all this the Chicago stuff I was talking about earlier they had like 50 murders last month or something crazy and I'm guaranteed they're all men shooting men yeah but that's a poverty
crime gang drug war but has both sexes exist there yeah that's true well there's actually a lot of girls that are involved in gang crime as well in Chicago sure there's a big article recently about this one girl who died and she was like 19 years old and she had all these photos of her online with guns holding up guns and [ __ ] making gang I'm sure that's there too but I think the tough guy thing is a thing it's definitely a thing it is it's a jungle out there we're out of time dude we [ __ ] killed it yeah hey thanks again lots of fun both things we did today were really fun fantastic fun to smash [ __ ] and it was fun to um to do podcast with you again we got to do this more often we never run out of [ __ ] to talk about no never thanks to Squarespace go to squarespace.com and use the code word Joe for a 10% off your first purchase and for a free trial that's squarespace.com the code word is Joe thanks also to our new sponsor untuckit untuckit.com U nck kit.com go there use the promo code Rogan and get 10% off shipping is free both ways thanks also to on it.com o n niit t use the code word Rogan and save 10% off any and all supplements much love you dirty [ __ ] and we'll see you tomorrow [Music] [Applause] thought it was intentional at first was inal Pur oh you were it's from the Snoop oh [ __ ] don't do that