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on the microphone in the upper right hand corner and get your $110 bonus offer we're also brought to you by onet.com that's o nni t a human optimization website what we try to do at hit.com is look I'm a big fan of supplements some people aren't and I completely and totally understand that uh if you're curious though about supplements and curious of the benefits of supplements I believe that the benefits are substantial especially if you pay attention the to I mean there's always going to be weird fat loss claims have you guys seen all this [ __ ] with Dr Oz yeah Dr Oz is [ __ ] dude he's [ __ ] they brought that guy in front of what was it Congress they brought him in front of him that's not good son no cuz he's a liar he's a he's a creepy liar saying he's got miracle cures and these little berries that they make pills out of they give him Kickbacks doctors are human beings ladies and gentlemen and sometimes doctors do creepy [ __ ] and that is a creepy [ __ ] the fat thing to me is it's Insidious it's extra creepy because people like the fat thing is a self-esteem thing it's a discipline thing it's a health thing there's so much connected to Fat it's like it to me it drives me more nutty than people that are claiming that they're making your dick bigger because that's just so stupid if you buy big dick pills you're just an idiot you know but the fat thing is like God you're sad and you're just thinking if I could just get rid of all this extra me it's the porn of vitamins and supplements though that that sells the most of any other thing that you'll ever see that's why they always have like like Anna Nicole Smith Dr Phil and all that stuff like that do Dr Phil does it or I mean Dr Oz and I'm sure Dr Phil does something you you need to do to make your relationship better is lose some [ __ ] weight you got to wonder what it is about a doctor getting on TV as well like the motivation that is true I was talking to um a researcher a friend of mine from up in Canada and uh he said you always have to be that was his his take on it that there becomes an issue even with like super intelligent people people when you become a celebrity when you're a celebrity doctor when you're a celebrity astronomer when you're celebrity whatever that there's
the pitfalls of Fame that fall into that and the monetary benefits of twisting information in one way or another like like what Dr Oz is doing he's obviously getting paid by these companies to say that they have these fat pills but he's so stupid man they asked him would you say that a pill is a miracle you know and he's like no well you know the word miracle I mean you certainly couldn't say a miracle in terms of you said Miracle on your show you [ __ ] more than one they showed uh was John Stewart or that other guy the new guy on HBO who's the new guy on HBO with the glasses John Oliver John Oliver I trust people with English accent and glasses those implicitly I immediately trust those guys um but he's really good and his show is really good and he did a fantastic thing breaking down what a scumbag Dr ozes you know video sometimes you see those like infomercials where there'll be a doctor who will vouch for something that's happening there you almost wonder if there shouldn't be some kind of Regulation if that's some kind of abuse of their position in society or something well you it is it it's abusive and here's one of the more Insidious things about it the real real problem is there are things out there that can benefit you but the only way to find out is to get things that have been backed by science double blind Placebo controlled tests things that have been done where you know for sure and getting back to on it all the stuff that we sell is stuff that we there's there's a history of human use it goes back a long time and there's research pages on every one of the supplements and supplements are just a part of what we sell and on it but I think that supplements can give you things that you're just not going to get from your diet when it comes to Alpha Brain neut tropics and things along those lines the amount of food that you would have to eat to get the same nutrients that you would get from four Alpha Brain pills is pretty [ __ ] substantial you'd have to eat like bowls of moss and you got to keep that [ __ ] fresh and you wouldn't be able to take it on a plane there's a lot of issues with it um also I think that when we isolate and locate various components of food that are beneficial for people like that is a scientific thing like there's this idea of anti- Science in connection
to to nutrients and vitamins and nothing could be crazier the the issue is that some of them are being sold without this science and that some of them are just [ __ ] and we at on it are very committed to making sure anything we sell has some sort of benefit that's absolutely provable if you go to alphabrain and read the research page we've conducted our own studies we conducted our we're in the middle of the second one right now we conducted one a a double blind Placebo controlled study that showed benefit and memory showed a couple statistically measurable um numbers and you could see those we have it all listed and we also have all the data that is currently available all the studies that have been done been done on the individual ingredients which is very important to point out before we sell anything before we do it we we make sure that there's data on the individual ingredients first the idea behind things like alpab brain are that you can combine various nutrients and use them in a synergistic fashion boy I sound smart when I say that but I'm actually really dumb so don't listen to me go to onet.com and read all that [ __ ] on top of that we sell the very strength and conditioning equipment that you could buy I like kettle bells I'm a huge fan of them because I believe that you when you're swinging things and using momentum and using your whole body as one unit it mimics actions that you would have in the real world like even just like moving furniture or something like that like there's kettle bell exercises that would make you better at picking up [ __ ] and moving around your house as practical as that kettle bell swings um when you're uh doing passrs in between your legs like you're doing figure eights between your legs with kettle bells when you're doing cleans and presses and cleans and jerks all those different exercises strengthen your whole body as an individual unit and when it comes to this the term human optimization I mean that embodies it in my opinion that's what I'm interested in I I I think the human body should be like a race car and I think that if you have a race car and for whatever reason you don't want to put race fuel in it and for whatever reason you don't want to give it a 500 horsepower engine and for whatever reason you don't want to
give it big fat tires that grip the road guess what [ __ ] face your race car is going to suck it's just going to suck it's just not going to work as well as a race car that is designed and constructed by a guy who took his body or a gal who took their body and did the best thing they could do for IT drank a lot of water ate fresh leafy green vegetables takes in a lot of high quality protein and exercise make that [ __ ] work you got to exercise it's one of the most critical parts of life cuz if your body doesn't think that it has to do anything guess what it just starts to go soft and get useless if your body doesn't think that it has to work it goes well we don't have to use any resources uh staying healthy and fit let's just [ __ ] turn into a ball mush don't let that [ __ ] happen to you people all right go to on it.com o nnit t and if you use the code word Rogan you will save 10% off any and all supplements all supplements have a 100% money back guarantee first 30 pills for 90 days you don't even have to return the pills just say hey man I took new mood I didn't feel any better well you're a [ __ ] freak here's your money back okay and if you're if you're mad at us you're selling snake well go read the research behind it there's a reason why we sell it and the reason is we are trying to give people an edge an edge in life an edge that I myself personally enjoy God that sounds douchy but it is true I think you get an edge in how I I I will say it in reference to my own self because the only reference I really have I don't know how other people feel but my own self when I'm eating healthy I exercise regularly and I take supplements I feel better on it.com o n niit t use the code word Rogan save 10% off any and all supplements again uh tonight uh is there any tickets left uh yeah there's still tickets left ice house comedy.com and it's uh Sara Tiana Joe Rogan uh Tony henchcliffe Greg Fitz Simmons and powerful powerful show uh and it's in the little room the ice house which is so much fun um and by the way Joey Diaz and mad flavor um AKA mad flavor rather and D marera will be at the Ice House in the big room at the same time so it's a [ __ ] party at the ice great night at the Ice House my friends all right without any further Ado Lewis from unbox therapy is here
let's [ __ ] geek out let's do it Jo podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Jo Rogan podcast by night all day I love when a Dude shows up at a podcast and he's got a bunch of [ __ ] that if I saw on a shelf I'd be like oo what's that I I figured coming straight from Google IO that it would make a lot of sense to bring some of this stuff inside would have been a shame to leave what exactly is Google IO uh it's their developers conference so uh it's focused on bringing together people that are making apps sort of Google Centric type of applications but it's also turned into a consumer facing conference uh because a lot of people are paying attention at that time I think they had a million concurrent streamers of the actual event so a million a million worldwide so concurrent concurrent Jesus Christ I know that's incredible it sounded like too much to me but I'm not going to question Google well that's a good television show on HBO right yeah isn't it I mean like if uh what does Game of Thrones get on Su night I don't think I don't know if they do it concurrent I guess it would be I would imagine I mean a lot of is DVR right in this day and age that's what I was wondering almost everything's DVR yeah so it has to an event where you sort of feel like you need to capture or catch it live or else you're going to miss something whereas I mean you could watch the Google IO conference after but uh yeah a lot of people paying a lot of attention to the things they were doing what do those Mac World conferences those are the big ones right what do those not anymore they're not not anymore uh WWDC Apple holds its own conferences now so Mac world was actually like an independent body and they just used it as a vehicle to introduce new products it was like a convention for mac Apple and Apple related stuff right and uh they decided to opt out of all third party conventions they're not at CES in any form's not Apple they want to control the entire experience and so many of them happen on their campus and then some happen in downtown San Francisco like google.io that's a big uh point of of debate and dispute isn't it with apple yeah the controlled environment yeah definely has been for sure uh I
mean for there's there's good sides and bad sides to to that kind of approach obviously controlling the entire software and Hardware experience means that you're going to get a product that generally is fairly polished but from an innovation standpoint it means you're sort of cutting off you know your limbs in a sense that you're not bringing people into that development Circle that might have otherwise been there because it is sort of a a wall Garden effect yeah isn't that fascinating I I always remember the back in the day when the Clones were legal there was oh right Apple clones You' be able to go and there was stores that would construct you an Apple computer you mean like semi- recently like hackintoshes they were called yeah well not even semi- recently a long time ago it used to be actual retail Distributors used to sell Mac products but way more powerful than Apple was making them they would sell them with five [ __ ] hard dries and souped up I built a couple did yeah way back and then Apple just put the kabash on that yeah I I can almost remember the name of the the big company it was like either sylon or SII something yes I think was syon and they and there was some kind of court case and they had to stop I don't think you want to go up against Apple in court well back then Apple was way weaker but still formidable still scary as hell yeah but they so they now are the one computer but the problem is if you look at it from the product point of view right they make the best [ __ ] they just do they make the best laptops they make the best desktops they make the [ __ ] that crashes the least they make the operating system that's the most beautiful I say I would say they make the best [ __ ] for the most people for the most people yeah because I think that if you really want to get in there and Tinker if you're like a heavy duty power user then it a lot of this like you look at this MacBook Air or your MacBook Pro there's so much of it that's embedded it requires the entire package Topp or you want to go in there and put more RAM in it or something or uh swap out a hard drive it's not going to happen you got to bring it somewhere and the Geniuses the Apple Geniuses how how pretentious you look I love Apple but how [ __ ] dare you how
do you feel about Apple Store experience in general I I enjoy it you know for the most part I think it's um it's a very busy place when it comes to selling computers remember when Windows tried to have a Windows store and you [ __ ] they're still trying coyote hunting there [ __ ] find coyot hiding out the thing is nobody in those [ __ ] things man I took a picture of an empty one before and tweeted it out and everybody got it h they don't they're not they're not known for selling Hardware right they were a software company a Microsoft sign on a in a mall it's like what what am I buying here well I as an ignorant person um ignorant to as far as development development of a product like like a laptop I'm pretty ignorant I don't know too much other than the things I vaguely paid attention to online what is stopping someone from making like a super high-end Windows laptop that looks like this that feels like this there are so many that look and feel like this that are this high quality MH and they give you the same experience no because you're running Windows that's right why is Windows so much worse they have so much money they dropped the ball how bad did they drop it pretty bad after the windows me experience of 19 just like they dropped the ball they dropped it and then they [ __ ] on it and then they fell on it and then they broke their hip I know I mean I I don't want to speak for everyone but I don't recall an experience with Windows where I cracked open a laptop lid and felt that kind of experience ever so even when XP was the thing or even before that9 5 or however far back you want to go you didn't get that same pleasure you get out of booting up an Apple product and getting into the OS and seeing the cohesion of the whole thing Windows even in the old days was sort of like a necessary evil Windows was the way to get to the [ __ ] you actually liked whether you wanted to load a game or a web browser or whatever but on its own it was it's always been utilitarian it's always been ugly yeah I always Envy the dudes who ran NT the Windows NT guys those are the guys are really new things oh right he's running NT oh NT there's a bunch of [ __ ] you couldn't get like drivers for certain video cards like if you wanted to play games if you
rent NT it be a real issue as far as people do that now with Linux like that's sort of the counterculture OS yeah like yeah you know Off the Grid open source Savages yeah IBM actually originally innovated that and and now I don't know who it's think it's just open source I don't know if it's in anyone's hands now I do think apple is the best of making an operating system slowly die die like of a like a cancer instead of it just immediately like I'm going through an experience right now where my iMac is just I dying it's the operating system dying I read it it from scratch I I put new memory in it and stuff like that the operating systems just saying like this model you need to replace it soon this is the Brian redband conspiracy theory ongoing conspiracy theory that comes to operating systems but they do it with iPhones everyone knows you you have an iPhone 4 and you get the new operating system you got all the new up that's going to be way slower even some programs might not work on it's not always the case there is that does happen like there are sometimes things that happen within an OS that require more Hardware to be able to perform at the same level of not in Brian's world it's a goddamn conspiracy trying to trying to get people to buy these new [ __ ] things well I mean if you want to get a Mac Pro go for it like they're they're beautiful things but it seems like with this or with a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 or whatever all when new [ __ ] gets made new new possibilities you're going to need more processing power you're going to you're going to apps require more the new videos that they're taking the new photographs we take bursts of photographs I mean God there's got to be some processing going on you're going to need a faster [ __ ] rig that's just the way it is there's there's no doubt that the especially on on the Apple products but in general there's this there's this structure built in where the expectation is to upgrade your device every time that contract is up right well I think there's no option if you want to if you're in the game if you're you're in this loving Electronics game that everyone in this room is in okay we're all [ __ ] Doren Heimer when it comes to new electronics when you're in that game you have to keep up if you do not
keep up if you try to run an iPhone 3 on you know the newest iPhone software it's just going to be clunky because the iPhone 3 didn't have near the capabilities and these new applications these new the video that you can take the photos you can take the the new weird things you could measure your heartbeat with your [ __ ] with your camera lens with this watch you could do it with your watch but you do it with your your iPhone can do it or an Android phone can do it just by holding your finger over the camera lens and it measures your Jamie showed it to me I thought it was I didn't think it would work how does that work I don't believe it's ACC it's super accurate I know I did it with a regular heart monitor yeah I did it with a chest heart monitor and I did it with that at the same time it's dead on wow it's dead on I have a new watch though that does it on your wrist you don't have to uh you don't have to wear a chest trap anymore he's got the newest watch that we just announced which is amazing can see it on the bottom there yeah is that's the heart monitor on the bottom and watches ooh that's so pretty let me see so pretty how'd you make it green it was green for a second oh it might have just look at that yeah it might have gone into like sleep mode or something what's the Mel of that watch so that's the uh the gear live they're calling it which is kind of bizarre they tried to get me into this at the Verizon store I told them to go [ __ ] themselves yeah they probably try to get you into the old version of it because this isn't even on the market yet ah you devil you're one of of those guys yeah o look at that color I made it too oh I made it go green so pretty yeah uh the difference here between the the previous Samsung watches and this one is this is the first to be running the open uh platform that that Google has created so not a modified version of software it's running something called Android wear and what Google is hoping to do to do on your wrist is essentially replicate what they've done on the phone and if you're looking at it this is the the wrist thing that thing in there is the monitor that's monitor so it's Optical it's actually going to look under the surface of your skin and it has like a clasp on the back that locks into place it's very
well designed yep that's crazy and so the the beauty of this going this Direction with it is if if you can build a platform instead of a one-off device then uh the the likelihood that a developer will jump into it and build something really cool that you never foresaw happening is that much higher because of you know the mass Market effect if everyone's running the same software on their wrist it's better for everyone and uh so so there's this kind of LoveHate relationship between Samsung and Google over this because uh for the longest time Samsung has been trying to diminish its uh Reliance on Google as a as a whole like for for their brand it's so essential for them to sell products and so they've been moving into some different operating systems now that uh are not very good but independent of Google yeah this is awesome man this is really cool yeah so I can I can tell you some of what it does I mean it it it's not really that that much new comparative to the old SmartWatches uh essentially you're going to get your notifications here it has a microphone on it so that uh you can input uh voice commands Etc so if you uh for example want to text somebody back you can C catch the notification here respond to the text right on your wrist and leave your phone in your pocket uh they were saying on stage that they believe 70% of our interaction with our device could be curbed by having one of these on your wrists so essentially most of the day your phone could remain in your pocket but I was talking earlier with Brian about how really the goal here the end game is preemptive Computing so uh the idea that this thing will know what you want to do before you know that you want to do it uh and that's what Google Now has been pushing has been pushing in that direction so your flight lands and it can it it can estimate how long it's going to take you to get home or the proximity sensor says that you're in the airport so it looks at your travel itinerary and brings up your boarding p right on your wrist so those kinds of things are what make wearing something on on your exterior more interesting where a buzz in your pocket is maybe not as effective as the information you can get here like so the travel distance and things along those lines things that updates those Google updates that you
get on your phone temperature warnings so things like that and but again I don't know that we can necessarily imagine all the potential uses for preemptive Computing I mean essentially much like the nest thermostat I don't know if you've heard of that before it's a really fancy thermostat you put in your house and it's a learn it's a learning thermostat and they just took over the marketplace they recently got acquired by Google by the way uh and one of their designers was one of the original guys who worked on iPod so really really there's a there's a cool story there but uh anyways they acquired Nest nest's product is a learning thermostat that never needs to be programmed the programming is just you using it so you come it's Wi-Fi connected you come home and you adjust it and you realize there's patterns in your behavior that at 3:00 you always like it to be a certain temperature and at 6 it's different and eventually it will draw out an algorithm to deal with your behavior at which point you no longer need to ever worry about it or touch it the goal of the product is to require less and less interaction from you the more you use it what's weird about Nest is that they also have these new products uh they just they're now taking over washer and dryers they're getting to the point where it is going to be like that old Flintstones where they can they're the Central Computer of your house and they like Hello computer what are you doing here and what they and they also have these uh uh smoke detectors that also do carbon carbon monoxide and stuff like that so they could even turn off and be like oh let's turn on the oven that's that's let's gas this guy and kill him so Google's going to be able to murder us in our house in the future or warn you if someone's breaking into your house trying to murder you well they they just acquired drop cam which is uh what I've been preaching about forever because the drop Cam's one of the greatest I think inventions in a long time it's these little cameras that film Amazing HD uh and that you can put all over your house that connect to your Wi-Fi and then you get a text like oh somebody's walking through my house you're sitting there watching full HD it's recording in the cloud for you recording all stuff and it
could also learn certain things like just watch this part of the house you know if it's me walking around because it's doing detections of what kind of object motions it is do you shut all that off cover it with t-shirts when you [ __ ] do you like do you put like socks over them if when I remember and then you of course not he needs that he needs to have that in the cloud no no I need that no I need that in the cloud so it can get hacked but I also need it how about as proof what if like that video we were talking about that that de the that guy that was doing the uh drone over the beach and that woman uh attack attacked him and he had recorded you know if it wasn't for that his little recording there what would have happened she said that he attacked her right yeah but there was a video of her beating the [ __ ] out of them but what if you meet a girl at a bar you're both drunk and you go back to your living room like that comedian that just happened to a comic recently in Denver and uh and he got in a whole bunch of trouble but how do you feel about that world though everything being recorded that's the question I was going to ask it's going to be great once something bad happens when it's nothing's bad happening and I don't really care you know um sort of except if you do something [ __ ] up and someone gets a hold of it yeah just don't do anything [ __ ] up it's great it's like that Lego Movie Everything is Awesome is it really I don't know if it's really that simple though because in I mean you've SE access and you've seen before like the effect of say for example editing on the end product on a show or something like that you can totally change context change narrative somebody having footage of you doing any kind of behavior could potentially be used to harm you but we all know if you have a Photoshop that there's ways to detective it's Photoshop if there's an edited there's there's so much smart little algorithms that you could tell that there's one grain that's not supposed to be there in a film up that yeah that's as far as like actually altering the image itself but not the context of the image itself you know you could you could have someone doing something that's actually not [ __ ] up if you knew the whole story but you take that con something else yeah that it's
an issue it's certainly an issue and it's certainly an issue because there's people that have that power over others you know that's what the the real issue with the NSA is like wait a minute you're monitoring every single person in the country like that you assuming we're all criminals cuz if not then do you pick a Target like that you know is innocent is it okay for you to monitor them no it's not right we all agree so the only reason why it's okay is you're looking at us all as potential criminals that's a real issue that definitely just that philosophy of government that philosophy of ruling over people cuz it's it's omnipotent for sure on my way over this just reminded me of something uh or before I left the hotel I saw on the TV about that guy whose kid died in the back seat of his car I don't know if you've heard about this in uh Georgia his uh so did he leave the kid in the he left how old was the kid was todler yeah left him in the back seat overheated and died and today I guess they find out the dude was Googling hot car death back seat death prior to the event oh just to see how long oh my God so he did it on purpose that's the thought oh no or he was saying how long he could leave his kid in there while he runs and and gets uh that's pretty that's pretty [ __ ] up on its own man either one is [ __ ] up he tried to kill his kid he killed his kid wow see it's the problem is story like that resonate so close to home that you're like [ __ ] it give them all the power they need you can't you know what I mean well that's how I feel sometimes I don't even pull this up dude I don't want to see that guy's face yeah no you don't the the like sometimes I feel like that when it comes to like location services you know do you want Google to know where you are like I guess you have to think about where am I what am I doing I showed them on yesterday's podcast how everyone's iPhones has on default just all the locations that they sit yeah that's right very strange that that's it is and you and you you really start to wonder about all of this power we give to these devices over us uh to these companies that that we have this inherent trust we're at a point now where we rely on these things to a degree that doesn't really allow for an opt out you know not for me obviously not for this podcast you know not not
for all kinds of exercises and if we knew that the police and the DEA and the whatever organization that might be investigating you was infallible and super ethical there was no corruption there was no issues whatsoever with people lying in order to close cases to make their ego look better right but we know that's true we know that's true we know there's been a lot of prosecutors that have willingly put people in jail because they didn't want to admit they were wrong they got the wrong person they wanted convict those people those stories always mess me up when this guy gets let out of jail 25 years later on DNA it seems like the only truth is the scientific truth you know it seems there there's no other truth once it's in human being hands it's like Google with these self-driving cars like they can they can eliminate so much yeah almost all yeah like 90% are human error right uh look what look at airplanes how their safety records are insane and the majority of that Pro we'll put a plane in the sky and Let It Fly itself but we won't let a car on the road do so yet the number one way that you will die between the ages of four and 34 is in a vehicle well we're letting it happen when you say we're not going to let it happen like they're letting Google cars happen they're driving them right now for well they're out there but they're not publicly available there will be some you can't I mean the oil and gas companies the dealerships look what they did to Tesla in New Jersey there I don't think they'll be able to do that not long term not longterm but they can put you know sort of like the marijuana thing in in Colorado like it's it es and flows right it goes a little bit this way comes back that way I think it' be so transparent though it' be the real issue like why would you try to avoid something that is easy convenient and unbelievably safe it'll just there'll be somebody with some kind of economic I think personal freedom issues are going to still apply like I like the be able to drive car you know yeah that's true could you imagine a point at which that becomes illegal I mean that it could happen definitely I mean or you would have to take your car to a [ __ ] racetrack can you imagine if the only way you could drive your Subaru was to take on a racetrack well but if you have
if you hav I always I sometimes feel like on the regular roads if you have a really nice car it's kind of like you know putting a muzzle on a dog you know you really to to get the most out of it a racetrack would be good anyways that is definitely true to get the most out of it but damn you get definitely definitely you can still get something you can get a lot out of it it depends on where Road take like uh Angel's Crest forest Angel's Crest Highway you go you you've been up there you know like uh out near where that gun range is too all these crazy winding RS are beautiful so fun to drw there is a way it's just that un orely 98% of the way people drive sucks like you're in sitting in grid line first of all your phone should not receive or send texts once it's in the phone once it's in the car it should be a thing where the the the car recognizes via Bluetooth that your phone is in the car no text [ __ ] face that's a good segue because one of the announcements actually at Google IO was Google in the car which uh again talks to all these different devices and is essentially going to overhaul your car dash unit which by the way they they all suck they're all terrible everyone's experienced the shitty capacitive screens and the slow input and pretty much everyone agrees just slapping your phone in the center of the dash is going to give you a better experience than the three or $4,000 unit that the car company installed yeah uh apparently part of what holds them back is that they have to have approval so far in advance three years or four years or something to get to get approved to go into a motor vehicle that they can't you know that they're so far behind by the time it's you're actually driving it that you've got a crappy experience but the goal here for from for Google is that your phone is actually the brain because this is modular this changes you upgrade this all the time your car on the other hand not so much so if this is the brain doing all the processing and just outputting video to a monitor that also happens to be touchscreen you don't necessarily have to worry about that so much new points of interest on nav for example uh they don't happen on these these locked off circumstances whether you have a you know a VW or a Ford or whatever each one of those experiences
relies on those compan need to go input those new pois so a new restaurant opens it's not going to be there whereas in the case of this it's it's always going to be current information so the phone will sort of the car rather will sort of act as an app sort of I I would honestly think of it as more of an as an output method so like basically imagine when you plug this when you plug this phone into a TV you would see uh this let's say you say see this image up on the screen there so let's imagine the same thing but on your car dash right why not wh why we're all doing this anyways did I say phone would be an app what I meant is your car would be an app yeah essentially your car you'd plug into your phone I mean it' be like you ever seen those dudes who run those really large lenses they take photographs they plug it in and there's apparently there's software that allows you to use these lenses with certain cell phones oh really seen them I haven't seen that yeah they make large lenses Jamie you know about all that [ __ ] right the like a physical adapter yeah they they put like physical I've seen applications that go along sort of the car is sort of acting like that like an extension and there's some sort of an application that would allow your car to interface with your phone you wouldn't the only thing is it would be you wouldn't have to do any work like essentially it would be baked into your phone and if you never used it you'd never need to worry about it but you would have to have a specific operating system though because like say if you have Subaru and Subaru only hand handles Android but you have iPhone exactly so they announced like 50 auto manufacturers that are on board that makes a that's a huge the dick though when it comes to switching phones like I like going back and forth from Android to Apple and this is something I I wanted to talk about how now with more and more connected devices it's becoming super important to pick your team oh no devic ISM you're separating people it's it's I like both I really do I love my note I love the screen the screen's incredible I love the online experience but you know what I got recently man I got a [ __ ] iPad Air the big one with a Verizon connection that's what I got booes you have a Verizon connection on that [ __ ] y yeah my web browsing with a
laptop or you know I mean my web tring with phone are basically over you know what's great about this also Jo is when you're on the road I have AT&T as my or as my cell phone but a lot of places AT&T sucks or vice versa and you can just make a hot spot using this so you're always having the best networ clever boy clever boy here's there's an interesting thing there in that picking a picking a platform maybe it won't be such an issue in the future anyways because I I sort of view as much as I like Apple I mean I've got products here I use the the iPhone is in my pocket daily I got this laptop here they have no track zero Traction in emerging markets at all that's not even of interest to them they they sell here and only here I don't know about you but I'm American and uh I don't really give a [ __ ] about some mud hut in the middle of nowhere except that those people in those mud Huts are making killer apps now oh oh damn it and if their first device that they get their hands on happens to be an Android device that matters right yeah this is a global circumstance I I've been saying for a while that it's almost like apple can't win because even though they have really high level stuff and you start looking at like the Moto M8 you go ooh that's pretty goddamn close to an iPhone if it just had a better camera the camera's kind of whack had a better camer oh I've heard you guys talk about this before this I wanted to talk about this specifically cell phone camera is okay everybody in the tech world knows that this thing takes the best Instagram photos right mhm Instagram I okay I said that specifically because it's the number one way way that we share photos and ultimately how you share it is the biggest part of it who cares if it looks great on your phone if when when other people have to have to look at it if it doesn't so other phones came out and you guys talked about there was one from on Instagram you saying this there you go do I keep talking you're good all right so other devices came out there's a no key device there a 41 megapixel phone um a Windows Phone 40 what 41 megapixel Jesus but you see that device is not focused on the output method it's just like let's just make these crazy images that are huge well how the hell do I get that
thing onto Instagram for the longest time Windows phone didn't even have Instagram but here's the problem okay Instagram is a piece of software and in order for it to work smoothly it has to compress your photos Okay so the thing you're taking on your phone just in the camera app is not the same thing that other people end up seeing on the other side of Instagram right you know what I mean and that compression algorithm is very sophisticated it has to go in there and figure out what can I remove and what do I need to leave in to to make a a beautiful picture right now if you're building the iOS side of Instagram of that app it's very easy to build because what are your parameters it's the same camera every time right right Android ho holy [ __ ] how many Android phones are on the market a lot of [ __ ] Android phones so now how many parameters as a developer do you need to deal with because all those phones have different attributes so the way they take a picture is different so going in and trying to figure out what to remove in terms of bits and bites to still have a good picture on the other side is very difficult to do so it's not necessarily a technical limitation on the side of the device the Galaxy uh S5 for example has a great camera a great camera until you try to upload the Instagram well I'm I'm talking about taking photos on my camera yeah on both and trying to take the best photo right no no that's that exists too this is this a great camera don't get me wrong it has a big aperture this is still like in terms of mass Market you can't argue this against the Nokia one just because that's it it hangs off the back it's a giant thing but what I'm saying is the bigger Pro I believe the bigger problem is the Instagram problem people people people hit me up on Twitter all the time say like my photos look great then they look like mud they look like [ __ ] you know once I get them up there so this this this goes deep Tech guys will carry around two devices for that specific reason I will take pictures on even if I took a picture on here you would send it to your iPhone but if I uploaded it on here it would be different that's ridiculous yeah it's crazy I I I mean when I upload my photos from both of my devices a Note 3 and my iPhone 5S all my [ __ ] phones uh all my G or
notes photos are [ __ ] compared to this camera though they're not as good and if you have a program like Instagram that is taking random because a lot of times I use Instagram but just like photos I find on the internet like I'll or I'll take screenshots that's that's another good example and those programs should be able to be like okay we're going to make everything a screenshot that's uploaded through this you know algorithm like meaning like if you have a photo that's taken on One camera you have a screenshot you have a a camera that you uploaded whatever all those photos should be able to go through one single programming thing like we're all going to transfer this into what a screenshot is of that phone or whatever meaning it shouldn't be like who cares of what different photos it is it's the programming that should be able to interpret it and and output it no no doubt about it but it's just if you say you're the a developer on Instagram first of all Instagram's not really making much money right now anyways but if you're how could they be that's a question I mean is do people pay for Instagram yeah you may facial so that they can own all your that's one one can you download it do you download it for free or do you pay for it no no no no no it's a free app but the you you will eventually start to see promoted Instagram posts from brands in your feed no choice e Twitter's doing do they own Twitter is doing it and they gross me out when they do it promoted tweet your friend is following X brand does Instagram own your photos they allowed to use whatever oh they recently they updated their TOS because they they said that and and then people freaked out and then they modded it and I'm not I'm not sure what the current state of their terms of service is but uh honestly Instagram's probably my favorite social network outside of YouTube uh because it's just streamlined it's images it's fast it's there's not too much Facebook is a disaster you know and I mean I'm pretty sure that's why they purchased them for example if I put a a picture on Instagram from an interactivity st this is how you know software is working when people want to use it if I put a picture on Instagram the the comment stream is happening faster than anywhere else even though I don't have the same number of
followers there are a lot of douchebags on Instagram though I think maybe more than on Twitter oh yeah more on Twitter Youtube can we do a douchebag definition impossible when you say douchebag there I'm curious as to the What specifically just dumb [ __ ] oh okay just dumb [ __ ] like you ever go to Kim Kardashian's Instagram page not not long Louis's go there and just read some of the [ __ ] comments about children I mean anything anything that happens just the [ __ ] hate I'm I'm sure it's I'm sure it's there it's deluded YouTube it's because it's you're you're you're commenting on a photo or a video instead of like a Twitter where you're just talking about words from I honestly think anything worth anything should be comments deleted Comics disabled because the the problem is like they very rarely it's it's rare that you it generates a really fascinating conversation in the comments it's super common that is just [ __ ] [ __ ] it depends on a subject matter like in my case sometimes I do get relevant discussion in the comments yeah me too Tech discussion like they're pretty respectful but you do get this weird fanboyism stuff that gets militant surprisingly it's bizarre like in one way like well I don't know I have this Theory like you know when you go to a coffee shop and you look around you're at Starbucks everyone has their phones on the table you notice that like like it's in a public space it's like it's like representative of you in some way right and I have this feeling that this is for for a lot of people this is a major investment you know outside of their car or whatever it's really close to you it's in your pocket all the time and so I think people are really concerned with making the wrong decision you know they're really concerned that their thing is not the best and so in my case what will happen is I'll put up a video with then you know they haven't even had time to finish watching it and apple sucks or Android sucks or whatever and really it's fear it's fear that you made the wrong decision and so well like many places in life you get angry when you're afraid and so God forbid a new product comes out that obsoletes yours and you don't have the money to replace it so you you you take this position of defending the other thing because that's
easier than justifying the cost of the new one so uh i' I've actually uh there were a couple of really cool articles on fanboyism that I was interviewed for and you know we went we went deep into how you know how people sort of figure that out but uh there's definitely this uh undercurrent below the the the tech space the consumer product space where these are becoming more and more like fashion symbols like like uh you know rep representative of your personality maybe more so than stat than as a tool you know less less of a a hammer and more like a a piece of jewelry like a watch or something isn't it also that people just love being on teams whether it's team Democrat team Republican team Chevy team most most definitely and and I've done some rants on this in the past like I I feel the need to tell people like I'm a fan of Technology when I was up as a kid like if anybody brought me any of this stuff I would I would be super excited of course and I'm cool with saying that you know but uh but yeah there is there is definitely a a team aspect where people they want to belong to something I say belong to team technology if that's what you're into because the truth is these devices and these platforms push one another that the the positive things that happen in Android push iOS to be better and the positive things that happen in iOS push Android to be better and the same thing goes for laptops desktops really anywhere there's Innovation having a little bit of competition is a positive thing yeah unquestionably and I think that it's important that there's all this competition out there and it's important that there's debate but people just have to be they just just [ __ ] just so many that's true as well that's really what it is they're out there people just getting all slobber mouthed their various platform it's easy to do right getting angry is probably the easiest thing to do it's one of the easiest you know like I mean in terms of emotions anger is is a reaction that people that don't have the ability to process something they choose anger it's the easiest one so but yeah any kind of like you you those those are not the dominating comments I not definitely not on my stuff the the dominating ones are more along the lines of uh you know like I said technology in general being happy
about Innovation you post a new unboxing video of one of these things and everybody's cool with it and everybody's interested and that's that's part of the reason why people watch my videos is because they they sort of want to see they want to see the whole movement of the the place in general like I could it could have been an apple Channel A lot of people do that like they'll have like an an iOS related Channel where they they'll do app reviews specifically for a platform or something but uh but yeah I don't want to give him a bad rap completely they're not all douchebag no no no they're not this I mean it's a small loud minority really I mean but that loud minority can ruin the com that's a problem yeah I mean uh YouTube implemented this idea where you have your real name that's a idea I love that idea they show a [ __ ] picture of you too and pict picture of you when you wake up in the morning what oh you [ __ ] so I'm so cocky now about Kim Kardashian are you you little puke so yeah I mean that's one way to to remove anonymity on the web but a lot of people don't necessarily like like for example on Reddit I mean could there ever be your real identity on Reddit that's interesting you know there's there's benefits there's pros and cons there's benefits to anonymity because a lot of times you'll get truth that someone might shield from you because of the social stigma of you know just social cues and interactions they might just back off of it and go I wasn't honest with them like you go to see someone in a movie you know like what' you think man like oh [ __ ] Christ movie is a piece of [ __ ] you don't say that you go oh pretty [ __ ] good man but if you were a random guy and there's so many things wrong with this movie they should burn it on the moon you know like you could say something like that and you would really mean that so I I don't know do you think the the things are better for people having that ility or would they be better in the alternative space where you kind cuz you know anyways right when somebody really isn't into something they don't really need to say it do they no you know you can feel it but I think that interaction in general I think first of all I think this stage that we're in this stage of commenting
and being able to interact with people online just like you put up a video they could just [ __ ] all over your face you know I don't like his face [ __ ] guy's annoying oh definitely yeah yeah yeah Pi something just decide this is a new ability that never existed a decade ago didn't exist two two decades ago there was nothing remotely similar to this that so we don't really know how to deal with it and there's so many people that just get away with doing things on it that they would never do in real life just because they really shouldn't have that ability it's not a natural ability the natural ability to communicate with each other is a it's a EB and flow interact it's not send a missile and sit back and wait boom and it explodes thing I mean now now you have that the art form of trolling like that's that's a whole thing and it is an art form when done well I mean it's sometimes there's a there's a new website that I just started follow or a new Twitter feed that I just started following that's a total troll it's kind of a parody account troll but it it turns into a troll I I should almost not say the name you don't want you don't want anybody yeah well [ __ ] it it's it's all about salon.com and it's Salon like their their Twitter handle I think is salon sal.com like there's Salon that is one Twitter handle and then there's salon.com hold on a I'll find out who it is I'm following Sal Salon is the official verified one exactly so it's exactly it's called Salon yeah salon.com and it's hilarious it's it's really funny the unfortunate part of that is them using that name may be a problem in the long sh keep it down you're the one that you're the one that announced listen need more people it's it's really funny there was uh there was one about uh a kid misogynous superheroes why men's rights activists are wearing capes whoa and they're just trolling it's really funny man yeah see if it's sophisticated and well thought out it's acceptable in my opinion scary the six most popular video games that allow you to kill female players online h the last anti-semitic slow we need to stop using the JW already oh they're just trolling this is good that's gold I
like this kind of trolling because if you go to the [ __ ] comments God there's a lot of people that do not think this is trolling really but isn't this the kind of trolling you hate also it well no because this is obvious but Mom erands are gay the 10-year-old's vile rant that proves what a homophobic patriarchy we live in I like that one I think I think there's a place for it it's obvious there's a place for it come on man anybody [ __ ] reading that if it's not look you don't deserve to be able to comment this should be your your test yeah if you really believe this you're either not paying attention like you're half awake or how do you feel about how do you feel about this what if there what if there was some like reputation attached to your name like because that's essentially what's happening on YouTube right right if you uh log onto a video and it happens to be somebody in your Google Plus circles for example they'll rise to the top of the comment well that's why you shouldn't use gole plus cuz that's [ __ ] you don't have a choice for commenting now 10 signs your cat might be [Laughter] racist look you know there's there's a bunch of different ways to to look at it I don't think there's any there's any absolute but I think ultimately the the real issue is that we're just not used to this kind of Freedom this freedom of and freedom of interaction Freedom ofing people freeding of mean there's webites dedicated to just like anything like you you could reach people you could contact people you could comment on people you could you could start your own website and boom people comment on you I mean this kind of interaction it's just it's completely it's an adolescent thing it's so when you have cases like that guy that got fired because they outed him on Reddit he used to do a lot of creepy [ __ ] on Reddit remember that guy I believe he lived yeah his name was like something Acres yeah yeah something um and it was a really interesting debate cuz obviously the guy was really creepy online but to him it was like a role that he was playing to him he got enjoyment out of this trolling and you know posting pictures of dead people and whatever the [ __ ] he was doing yeah I
think his big one was creep shots right I think so like up the skirt type pictures which surprisingly for a long time if you searched uh for Reddit it was the top hit was like SL creep shots so meanwhile I want to know who's searching Reddit for creep shots no they but here's the thing they banked a lot of D on that guy's work right oh Reddit did of course if if they're accumulating traffic through Google searches right to that particular thread ultimately they earn money through advertising Revenue like anyone else keeping people there is going to right but they're an open Forum completely open form should they be not completely because they're moderated is that what you mean huh so you're saying that by them tolerating if so if could be proved that they tolerated those creep sh he got he got a uh a Reddit uh trophy a statue for being one of the best moderators oh and he did a lot of upsirt shots yeah creep shots was I think the most famous thread or uh subreddit sorry oh no he ran a subreddit called creep shots creep shots and there was another one wait a minute wait a minute wait so Reddit knew about the subreddit yeah oh that shit's sexy I don't care what you got when it's done to guys it's all Kilts all Scottish I mean that's still a you know like also the the under age ones though he was also on so um under 18 only and I think I believe the goal was to attempt to harvest pictures from girls Facebook accounts so you would uh pretend to be you'd have like one of their friends profile pictures you'd be somebody at their school or I don't know fake it right get access and then pull pull down the Facebook photos and upload them so had no idea they were showing up on this subreddit until they found out at school the next day God damn that is so [ __ ] up and there's a grown man doing that to a little girl and guess what the moderator's job was to remove pictures of girls that look too old oh my God great so what do you think about that what's your thoughts about that I I have a LoveHate relationship with Reddit like this idea that that it's an open forum is one that everybody believes but the vast majority of Reddit users are consumers not producers right they're just just there to consume content you would never know if you're actually seeing an open Forum or not
you're not managing it in any way so uh they're like super against self-promotion right mhm and this is how I've bumped into them a number of times because I'll tweet out if somebody's talking about me on Reddit I'll tweet the link right on numerous occasions tweeting that link brought the whole post down wow h i just stay in my subreddit I don't go out of Reddit much I think it's good for certain things like like I use it for episode discussions of podcasts for like the death sad subreddit and Joe's Sub it's still human beings there's obviously cool people there like that's not up for discussion but these veiled moderators in the background can essentially shape your experience there well there's also been issues with censorship remember Alexis Haan when he was on the podcast talked about uh issues of things being censored from uh technology forums oh definitely yeah yeah yeah certain uh certain keywords yeah certain keywords would knock the post down immediately you couldn't type in those keywords apple or whatever a strange list of keyword someone did a little investigation on it they did a little study so I wonder if that's still the case I haven't attempted we actually found this out I believe it was after Alexis was here so we didn't get a chance to ask him about yeah yeah I mean if they're making money off of the fact that their Forum gets a tremendous amount of traffic and you have a subreddit that you're aware of of someone must be aware of that correct oh definitely it's not there anymore but how crazy is that that you're you're censoring things like the word Apple or Samsung or whatever whatever the technology words are you're censoring that but you're not censoring upskirt shots of 18-year-olds well here's the thing upskirt shots and 18-year-old girls don't buy ads right it's the free promotion they don't want they don't want people come they don't want people hacking their system in a way finding a way to get exposure through their platform form without paying for it right so you know Twitter Facebook's doing the same thing now if you Facebook promoted posts I don't know how active you guys are on Facebook but uh you know your post is reaching what like 5 10% of the actual
audience that signed up to see your posts and oh you want to reach more pay us money right that's that's inevitably where we end up on any of this [ __ ] is that eventually they hook you and then they find a way to monetize what do you how do you feel about Bitcoin how do you feel about electronic currency and love it love it super cool yeah fast standing right I think oh yeah I don't I I'm not an expert right but I think that money is super low Tech right now money sucks right now like this idea that there's this intermediary body that needs to sit in between you and I if we want to exchange money yeah that that's bizarre in today's day and age I mean I can send you email that could be encrypted and here's how you know it's [ __ ] they have all the money that's how you know the whole deal is rigged it's it's messed up what they're providing is really not that big of a deal if you think what are they storing what are they doing they're processing a bunch of things mostly on computers today and that's what Bitcoin proved Bitcoin proved it because Bitcoin was able to process transactions on an enormous scale it was bigger than a than an independent institution and they were able to do it in a uh in a in a fashion that's completely secure and they were able to do it for free without any kind of venture capital right they didn't like you think about the fees you paid or big the banks are go to any City the biggest skyscrapers are the big Banks right insurance companies financial institutions the crooks all the Cs in their big [ __ ] castles I mean you you think about it Bitcoin came out and outed all those guys in a way because it said you don't we you don't need to take all this money to achieve the transaction to achieve the endgame you know so uh I mean I'm yeah I'm a big fan of alternative currencies in general I don't know if it's going to be Bitcoin or something else we're probably at a super early point right now with it and it it's uh it's going to be you know it's it's hard at any time when you're looking at something in its earliest form to see the end game to see where it ends up but uh you know when the first like for example when the first iPhone jumped on the scene I'll never forget that moment you before that the devices
before that and after that how much they changed in an instant and so I feel like once when there's some big Dynamic moment that that Bitcoin is able to achieve or alternative currencies are able to achieve some really cool feature where we can I don't know tap watches and spend money and we never have to pull anything out of our pocket like the Starbucks app I'm using that [ __ ] all the time do you um is it one of those things you pull and you scan so yeah so what it is is like you you can you don't have to but you put in your favorite locations and when it senses proximity in nearby you just swipe over and there's a barcode and you're done or you could just shake it now the new the latest latest one you sh and it just brings up your payment and uh it collects your you know every 10 times you get a free drink loyalty program yeah and then it also gives you free music and free apps I mean that Starbucks did their app right oh the Starbucks app is every 10 times you get a free one every 10 times you get a free one that's amazing that's incred automatically uploads so like you'll always have you know and the thing the thing is like in the past I've been so reluctant to do rewards programs like they're so bizarre you're at department store and it's like every th000 you get you earn a dollar some like ah [ __ ] it I don't care yeah but this one they they uh made it in such a way that it's a more convenient purchasing process so it's like oh I'll take the Loyalty on the side yeah it's a side deal why not right that's a cool way of looking at it too that's nice that they did that that's so clever and 10 to one is like a really good ratio like buy 10 drinks you get one free that's really really I don't know if it is it 10 yeah it's a 10 and you get to get whatever you want so that's when you go I'll have seven shots chocolate by throw in a KN you know oh you get drink it's not oh that's fascinating it's not even a commenor drink so you could buy like five shots of espresso and I've done it before yep you can get a super drink wow and they give you one on your birthday as well yep they give you a because of the app app just tells Inc birthday go get a free drink so when you're at the store you hit the app and then just shake it and then it pays for the thing MH the
world's getting ridiculous how do you feel about Google Glass actually that's a good that's a good thing to talk about because I feel like these are the interim glass these watches interim so like that's going to get you to a glass day glass is nowhere near ready for mass mass consumption yeah uh it well it's $1,500 first of all uh which to to some people might see might not seem like a huge hurdle but it's gigantic and second of all it's obtrusive like I just got back from San Francisco where there's you know glasses there's a huge percentage of people wearing glass didn't someone get in trouble for driving with them on I didn't hear that story but imagine I think they had to drop the case right but I think a guy got in trouble for driving with him on cuz they were saying that he was using his cell phone while he was driving I'm I'm sure that's happen I know some bars have outlawed them locally they should yeah that's [ __ ] CRA well they have those weird cameras that you can buy that look like buttons they have those and they also have the on that Stan hope used Stan hope had a uh a hidden camera show for a while and he had glasses this was a long [ __ ] time ago little camera in the yeah I want to say this is in the '90s might have in the '90s Doug had a really funny [ __ ] like hidden camera show and one of the things he did is he had these glasses there was like this little Center thing and you it you couldn't tell oh definitely so so that's that already exists yep yeah well but anyway in yeah in the case of glass I I don't there's this really weird experience if you if you own it you can't really wear it like if you go out wearing that some people have no problem doing it but it becomes the whole event everybody wants to ask about it or try it not not maybe not so much anymore but it's just not uh there's something wrong with it I don't know what it's it's hard to pinpoint right but if I came in here wearing glass immediately you would you you would have a different perception of me yes and I don't think we're ready to make that kind of a statement I think it's going to have to look like your glasses yeah it'll have it'll have to be regular glasses have to be it's got to be I mean as things get smaller and smaller that shouldn't be
prohibitive right just the the lenses themselves the the bars on the side of the lenses just some sort of like right now it's a little oversized and you swipe it yeah you know and I've done it I didn't like it it felt silly to me I don't want this thing in front of my face it off and there's this and the prism and I I actually got the version but I wear sunglasses all the time so if I went out and I had no navigation in my car I just slapped these [ __ ] on and I see everything that's coming at me I see the weather up here I mean that would be the [ __ ] why haven't they done this [ __ ] why haven't they just created some dope ass Oakley style sunglasses that have a [ __ ] screen in it like a goddamn movie theater and I'm driving around and I got all my information done like look dude your girlfriend's right over here that's what that's what every you're at Target I think what it's going to be is like we're all going to have our own Google Glasses but it's also going to have something that broadcast as our Avatar so it's not going to we're going to feel comfortable you recording me because you're act my face is going to be replaced with a cat face and my voice is going to be replaced with something else that's just your [ __ ] world no one's buying get the [ __ ] out of here in some ways there's like a there's a there's a a race between between glass and other forms of augmented reality too like uh like this thing I brought over here this little piece of cardboard but ultimately isn't like glasses the most convenient to have on and more common because people have them on all all the time anyway oh no definitely what is this Brian what do you got here this is Oakley Airwaves which is kind of like their version of like I don't know like a Google Glass where it has like its own like uh so skiing goggles yeah dude you you can drive around with those that is that's what I'm talking about remember when I said the the the Privacy uh uh face that's what I was kind of talking hold up hold up that it has navigation yeah wait a minute back that up it has [ __ ] navigation in your ski goles you want to listen to this [ __ ] yeah play that [ __ ] that's the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life if we can get this to work that's
[Music] amazing airwave 1.5 technology that delivers the good straight to your brain so what we're seeing right now is the speed how fast you're going the altitude vertical your jump analytics so how high you're jumping and it's showing as you're looking down the speed your air time buddy tracking your phone you can play music with this [ __ ] thing you're getting text messages you're looking at your navigation screen look at you you're picking your music all dog [ __ ] music Jesus Christ kid such cool technology you're skiing you're like but you're skiing [ __ ] man how are you interacting with all that stuff though um poorly crashing in trees Sunny booing yourself left and right look at the [ __ ] oh it slips off different lenses yeah you can put on sunglass style dude you can go Terminator style I think I'm just going to wear this that's what I'm saying it's just the paparazzi glasses thing that I was talking about like like it's going to be Star Wars big she had the really big one that went over your whole face that [ __ ] is smart with that that was a good idea this is amazing man but if you're a skier do you ski Brian yeah I love skiing I used to be in ski club dude ski with one of these [ __ ] on God damn that would be cool as [ __ ] that's amazing Oakley [ __ ] yeah Oakley oakley.com airwave if you want to watch it if you're listening to this cool that's amazing what a great idea it's only matter of time before someone did that that's way better than Google Glass $600 that ain't bad yeah that's not bad that's way better than Google Glass I sometimes feel like when I watch those promos though that it's not [ __ ] yeah it should be you doing it well you know I mean that's what you do that's what I do man I take the [ __ ] out of it what's been the most disappointing product that you had to do that to wow was there one product that you got sometimes like I'm trying to think right now sometimes like oh I hope sometimes it's so [ __ ] that I I wouldn't even want to give it the exposure you know that's smart like what's what give me an example of that so we can give it some exposure some guy I hate doing this though some guys it's like their dream
they got like a pro [ __ ] product [ __ ] them their shitty ideas one guy had this was back in the day and when a lot of people were into like like little docking stands for your phones and [ __ ] like that and some guy had one like essentially like glued onto your phone like it was like this this sloppy material I regretted it immediately I was upset so that's an example so you put it on your phone yeah yeah yeah g how'd you clean it off like with rubbing alcohol and [ __ ] yeah that's it so a glue was the worst thing shitty glue no I mean there let me think Chinese what about like big time stuff like a phone or a laptop that was dog [ __ ] oh wow you want to go there I I do want to go there I was upset with my PlayStation 4 really how come because the controllers are not very durable I had within within a few weeks I had the uh the rubber from the thumb sticks starting to degenerate I posted a video it has almost a million views oh my goodness I tell you what I'm sick of baringer mixers I found out that baringer as a company I've always used baringer because I've always ger brand buget stuff no I was just German Brands Chinese oh is it but it was created in Germany right or something like I think they just use a German name okay so so hilarious Brian's done his research bro he always used German wait what I don't know if it's Chinese I'm pretty sure it's not German but no no actually it was just the first mixer I ever got so I always just went with it uh but I had to I've had to replace like I've spent more on mixers in the last five years and then I resarch yeah podcast mixers I just had to replace my third one and this time I went with Y Yamaha just whatever but uh I found out that there's like class like in the past they've had like lawsuits and stuff where pretty much they just take a good mixer and just copy it with shitty Parts like they they're like the first version of like when you go get a a fake iPhone in China it's the exact same [ __ ] but U like I I went to a Guitar Center the other day and they were yeah we uh we stopped carrying all of baringer because of this and I just now found out after spending so much money on baringer and having so much [ __ ] fry out do you you so yamaha's a good move though right yamaha's pretty
good there's a something with an M I can't remember like Moi or Macky Macky supposedly is what everyone else loves how many times have you burnt out what is what do we have here what is that this is a paring shirt and the headphon Jesus but but yeah the the I've replaced three uh like $400 $500 mixers in the last two years 3 years damn my headphone jack just went out like the yesterday this is our second headphone jack yeah headphone Jacks went out all the time they all [ __ ] suck I'm sorry baringer not a anymore believe said these mics are the [ __ ] I just want to say that these the this the statements you just heard the opinions are only that of Brian R they do not represent the rest of this podcast you know in in general though products have gotten a lot better they have to right they've gotten just the like Market wide like you can't get away with a dud no it's just too much too much PR now yeah and and total exposure like exposure like that's one thing I [ __ ] love and one of the reasons why I wanted to have you on is the kind of videos that you do and there's a lot of other folks that are doing them now they're so comprehensive they would have never existed on a network television show like even like the like when you used to have the old tech TV days which was excellent I love the screen savers I love that they didn't have the time to do what you're doing and specific to that device like you don't have to worry about you know oh I have to be off the air in 6 minutes cuz that's when the commercial goes we have to go to break there's no break there's no all that stuff is dog [ __ ] that's a dumb that's silent movies that you're doing a puppet show you might as well be showing this is a real monster no it's not okay you can't use rubber claymation anymore it's 2014 you [ __ ] and you can't keep reviewing Tech items on television so essentially what's going on is the internet has created a platform for you guys to completely change the technology review market and make it super interactive like say if you're thinking about getting a new iPhone you go online go to CNET go to your site go to all these different sites and you'll just hit review after review after review informed details in-depth reviews that many times the guy will say I've had this phone for the
past 5 days [ __ ] with it here are my thoughts you're just not going to get that anywhere else no it's the platform the platform has enabled that to happen like like it's enabled so many new forms of entertainment to happen like this like podcasting like this for example would have given us a show not a [ __ ] chance in hell a radio show yeah I'm bringing this guy with me we're gonna yeah he say rarded [ __ ] but it's kind of good because of the because of the even the way you said that like like in the old days old media somebody had to give you something you know what I mean right now you go out and get it well the old days someone had to hire you for a show that's what I mean there's you you had there was a predetermined time slot like if you had a radio station all you have on that radio station is the times that you're broadcasting right we could simultaneously broadcast I mean we could if we wanted to if Brian and I got together and said you know what let's start a [ __ ] podcast Empire let's like everybody that we can contact online have them send us we can start hiring people before you know we could have 50 podcasts going on at the same time just dumping them out into the internet you don't have to have a 24-hour time period where you know Frost Heidi and Frank are from 8 to 10 and then after that it's [ __ ] Conway and Steckler you don't have to have that anymore no and it bring it brings up a lot of deficiencies in the traditional media model that now that everything is dinosaurs yeah everything is essentially on demand and it it honestly feels strange for me to plan my day around a live event how about watching commercials don't you want to [ __ ] throw up in your pants like what are you showing me why isn't the program stopping for this horeshit to be honest with you commercials don't need to be as bad as they are no look at our formula Joe now we might do it a little long but what if we were advertising Coca-Cola in 30 seconds and we could do whatever the [ __ ] we want I would watch that like oh my God see here here's the thing like when the Super Bowl happens everyone I come I got to replenish my glycogen corn syrup is good after you come have you ever put a frog inside a can of Coke for two weeks it's coke bad for you [ __ ] yeah it's bad for you so living in a
city you [ __ ] face have a coconut smile and shut the [ __ ] up [ __ ] it's old school yeah um but they don't but the only reason why that works is because I forc that like they're constantly trying to get me to do ads in the middle of podcast oh yeah definitely every new ad that's like one of the first things that comes up that's a debate is like they want to interrupt the show and insert ads I'm like it's not that's not an option it's a super crappy model doesn't work no it doesn't and it's a holdover it's a hold over from a time that doesn't exist anymore it's like well let's just take the platform that existed and and Bolt on to this new thing instead of developing something from the ground up that fits with this language this is a a whole new language I even feel this way about indiv individual social networks like I feel like YouTube has a language Facebook has a language Twitter has a language Instagram that sort of when you're a Content producer you sort of feel like all those places are the same because you're broadcasting to all of them but ultimately more often than not those users are platform independent they have a place where they like to get at you more than one other place and that becomes their habit and so since their consumption model is unique so say your people who people who view this podcast on YouTube versus who listen to the audio only versus who those are all independent people all with their their own mindset and trying to trying to figure out the right way of interacting with all those groups is something that big brands are trying to do now through their their their social experiments and Etc so uh when when people come and talk to me brands or advertisers or whoever it might be it's like listen we need to build something from the ground up native to this platform don't bring me something from somewhere else this is not a national ad campaign this is 850,000 very sophisticated viewers with a super high sensitivity to [ __ ] right because they're not used to getting it here it's not they're not getting any of it they're not getting any of it about your own life that's right people who are hosting pod will tell you the truth about their own personal fuckups exactly and so that's
it's a it's a really unique proposition huge value huge value for a brand in some ways I feel like this whole Marketplace is heavily undervalued when you compare CPM figures like from the traditional media world to this world these people are more [ __ ] dedicated well they're they're loyal if they know that you're kicking them the real deal unbox therapy is not going to lie you're not going to lie you're deep you're you're hly I'm me yeah you're you and you're also so you're you're deep into discovering the the flaws which is actually essential to the development process like for to ensure that you still have a job and that these companies create and innovate the it might be painful for them they might not enjoy some of your criticisms but it's it's critical I'll give you an example right now please do live example oh what live example Samsung Samsung keeps making these shitty ass chargers okay yes look at this damn thing this this is the charger for their watch this is beautiful looking device right that's the charger install the charger Joe go for it [ __ ] you know who also has done that in the past Sony used to do that [ __ ] all the time with they're like Bluetooth headsets and [ __ ] oh you mean proprietary stuff well these are these are all going to be propri that's what you got to do every night before bed you're not doing that you had a few drinks well that's why the new Apple watch is going to be uh dude I'm coordinated as [ __ ] I'll do this all day I'll be on hair when I'll do this I'm not saying you can't do it but that's not a pleasurable experience you're so funny that exp you like to be just like a regular us you remember what I said before about opening up an Apple laptop M that breath of fresh air that you get yeah it's you can't measure it right it just keeps you liking and using the device it's sort of like their keyboards and their mice they're so clean and everything is it's just like I want I just want to look at the damn thing you know what I mean if a beautiful thing will always be more attractive I forgot the damn charger for the LG G watch but no worries LG on the other hand the entire back is a magnet oo all you do is just drop LG wins better Apple's new watch you just lay it down on the counter of
course but wait a minute you lay it down on the counter and charges y mot hold on how's that possible go ahead they well a lot of uh you could do this right now you can go to Best Buy and buy these things that fit on the back of your uh pH you don't need to buy and some phones you don't need to buy anything this is already CH enabled yeah yes where you can just lay it down on a mat and we'll charge oh a mat a specific part yeah I thought you were saying it charges in the air I was like no no Apple's new uh uh supposedly has it where you could just lay it down on this mat and you know I'll tell you my one criticism of the mats mhm the problem with with the mat is traveling traveling with a goddamn mat yeah unless it becomes as big as the iPhone and then hotels just have that mat which is probably going to happen if if if it's going to take a while but Starbucks actually are starting to implement Chi enabled surfaces so it will happen but it's definitely not there yet and in the meantime the little charger for this LG is it's super thin and it's about the size of the watch and they they can connect if you put the together in your bag so cuz it has a magnet but I had to watch before this the Galaxy Gear okay this is the gear live the naming conventions are terrible that's one of the hardest parts of the job actually just getting the names right what's better than like the old days of like model numbers like so but anyway the Galaxy Gear had this wacky thing that strapped around the whole device it was [ __ ] it screwed up the experience for me and I think they ruined the device if the UI see UI doesn't end here user interface uh yeah exactly or or U user people who are going the [ __ ] or user or user experience in general it a lot of people assume like if you're a developer you're building it for this and that's it no this is UI this aluminum or or U uee it's user experience the whole experience is encompassed in the way you interact with the damn thing dude you sound like a wine connoisseur you sound like one of those dudes who's really in a certain grades yeah I think I'm getting fired up right now very much get fired up right now I like this guy yeah I like you too man I agree with you 100% and I think that also what we were saying before is that your these
criticisms and this this very uh detailed review that you'll do about these products is super critical super critical for the development they should be hiring you oh I get lots of interest you get offers like apple tell you to shut the [ __ ] up just come over here give you money I'm sure Apple's not a huge fan of mine because I did some leaking of different components oh how dare you how did you do that you got it offline uh from China yeah it's on the internet it's out there it's like peeing the ocean you got to deal with it you're probably not a big fan of mine it's funny they did at their keynote I I had leaked um the iPad Air chassis the entire body before it came out so I had the entire form factor right it was on Forbes it was everywh did they get mad at you no they didn't I never heard a word about it but in the keynote they addressed it like the big keynote that everyone was watching they're like we think you guys might be familiar with this next device like Tim Cook addressed it so I was like did you feel like a certain amount of power there on a radar o did you feel like you you did something like you made an impact no I didn't I didn't really because I feel like these things are going to they're going to leak out regardless there's just so because of guys like you that's like saying people someone's going to murder someone regardless well because because of a murderer I guess I no I guess I guess you're right about that but I I honestly and I I'm I'm much more interested in the demand for it like why do people care so much that's another thing that shows about how our attachment to these devices is insane that I put out a video like that and it's like you know I don't know 2 million views or it's on Forbes it's it it was it was everywhere like it was posted all over I had the Google notifications turned on for whenever it was getting I was getting a news notification every time my name was being used and it was just going off like it was on all these different sites that were embedding my video and uh they're doing it because investors want to uh make adjustments to their plans preemptively based on the review based on what they so that so like sure no no I mean not the review I mean like the the leak so they see the iPad Air
chassis before it actually comes out and they go hm are people going to like that chassis are people going to buy that chass do you re when you when you when there's a leak like do you give opinions on the leak yeah I compare I compare to the old one uh like I do physical dimensions I pulled a measuring tape out have you ever known of anyone that's given some sort of a review and it's actually changed the final product cuz they they listened to what people were saying about a leaked product and went wait wa wait hit the braks this could be a good question probably like on Kickstarter or something like that but not on a big I don't feel like they would ever let you know you know what I mean but but I think brands are definitely uh paying attention to the chatter they need to and the market research is going deep now you know they they invest way too much money in creating these things to take a risk that everyone's going to hate it so and a guy like you is a direct line to that because yeah I'm I'm tapped into the pipeline you're doing all day long access to the vein yeah yeah yeah yeah this is my thing when I used to do cameras uh I used to when those little baby video cameras used to be became really popular whatever those were called remember you used to have a couple of them HD ones SD cards yeah and uh Kodak had one and I did a really bad review on one of kodak's uh little on first came out exactly what you're talking and it was because of low uh when during low lighting and stuff like that it had a bunch of [ __ ] up problems Kodak yeah Kodak contact AC me and they actually did a firmware upgrade based on just an example yeah that's tremendous yeah this look that's super valuable resource for a company because definitely they're not going to get that kind of objectivity from the people that work there and there's also a hierarchy with managers and people that work under the managers and maybe the manager's a dick and he doesn't want to listen to Mike's advice and Mike you know Mike is kind of soft spoken but he's got really good ideas there's a lot of that social [ __ ] that goes on in giant Corporation something that doesn't get talked about is the is the cultural aspect like the vast majority of this stuff comes from
halfway across the world right we all know that I don't know what I can say on this but are you withholding information no I'm not withholding information I'm just he doesn't want to burn Bridges there's a yeah I'm not going to name try just try a way to dance around I'm not going to name any Brands okay but some it Rhymes it am young some are completely out of touch with the way life works over here okay in America I that makes sense and it shines through in certain decision making when it comes not only to products but to the way they Market those products to the way they communicate with press or the way they communicate with their own people it's um I've I've been in some certain some circumstances where it's it's been very foreign that makes a tremendous amount of sense and seems like of course it seems obvious yeah but but everyone wants to pretend that uh user experience in in Asia is the same thing that we're going to want here right you know like how many okay I'm going to go on a bit of an Android rant don't do it this is a Nexus 5 okay beautiful phone this is a goo a Google product this is the unadulterated Android experience the way Google intended I don't know if they would attended that wallpaper no they probably didn't actually that's a good friend of mine please don't say anything um I don't even know what it is I'm just [ __ ] around okay no no no you're right it wouldn't be stock that's not a stock wallpaper but um uh so they have the best developers in the world if you're a badass developer where are you going to work Apple Google Amazon I mean whatever somewhere in Silicon Valley somewhere in the Pacific Northwest you'll be all set if you're the best developer in the world you going to Asia that is that your number one priority is that where you going to go you like Asian chicks and heroin are you going to Japan in September so let you know so but anyway here's here's the problem the R&D that goes into that software extensive so much money so many smart people right what does Samsung do 3 weeks they overhaul the [ __ ] come on how are you going to take something that took that long to develop and you're going to skin it and you're going to change everything about it in 3
weeks well no I'm I'm exaggerating oh if you pick up a Samsung device it's not the same as an LG device it's not the same as a Motorola device it's not the same there's this fragmentation and that's the in because in the Tex space it's called The F Word by the way fragmentation F they call it the f word it's a big deal because they decide to add their own user interface their own yeah their Samsung has their own thing that they do what is it called what's Samsung stuffi called TouchWiz yeah what you're not touching my dick okay that's what I hear tou Wiz you have the original right so that's the original operating system and everything do you is it night and day difference cuz I I've always used I guess a skin version I've always used Sam fck he's this guy's hardcore dude he's super hardcore he's like Antonopoulos remember Antonopoulos said that he breaks everything down and Roots it and yeah here's the thing it's like I just really believe in the intelligence level of the original developers and I can't imagine how they sleep at night knowing that most people's interpretation of Android is a Galaxy Device I need to get one of these next like they're like artists man they're sitting there this is their art form and they're sitting there putting all of this energy into simple decisions like the shape of an icon you know what I mean serious design and then someone goes and goes we'll build a better icon it'll be a happy face no big deal you know it doesn't make any sense it would be like you get some beautiful painting and you send it halfway across the world to Asia and tell them do what you want with it right you would never do that with any other kind of art that's interesting you so you're you're accepting it as an art form I guess you're right it's created someone creates it someone draws the whole thing up man the this uh the guy behind this is matius dwarte he was at google.io he's their you know lead designer on the uh and and and it's about to get overhauled as well the new version is called L and it's even more beautiful in my opinion than than what this 4.4.4 that I'm working on right now wow but here's another problem I'm using 4.4.4 that's the latest Android OS what's that called um it's always candy Kat uh the next the this version the
that specific iteration of this uh software is you will not find it on any Galaxy Device right now right the the updates and this this holy sh this is a big discussion because we're going to involve the carriers now the carriers are really to to blame for enabling this process so Android in the beginning Android has had to make so many sacrifices to catch up and one of those sacrifices is letting carriers dictate how they're going to implement these devices Verizon AT&T Etc so you buy a phone from Verizon a bunch of [ __ ] from boot it up and you see a Verizon logo which is disgusting dude in some cases they put the logo right on the outside of the phone there was a Galaxy I think the S4 had Verizon on the button on the front tiny little button strapped with Verizon so those are those are changes that the carriers want to make because they're hoping to build their own ecosystems and capitalize more the the carriers are they're not in an innovative business they're in in in an accounting business of finding a way to just juice you for a few more pennies you could do a little Ting spot right now if you want except for the middle of the pocket they're clever now when an economy moves in that direction where their objective is just to pinch more pennies what happens to Innovation takes a [ __ ] nose dive a [ __ ] nose dive a [ __ ] nose dive it does and because all of a sudden now uh the bottom line is affected by someone some nerd with a uh a report in front of him saying just get rid of that you know whatever it's it's made through subtraction not addition that's fascinating that's a really interesting way to look at it I really like the idea that it's a piece of art I love that you're looking at it that way because you're absolutely correct I think of it as technology but it is something that's created and anything created is Art and it's certainly beautiful y you know I love like scrolling through I love how Android like my Galaxy Note 3 has like a different thing when I'm flipping through the pages right right I love like an animation or something I love the [ __ ] pen I love that they figured out how to do that you're using the pen on a regular basis suris well I'm a comic so I write notes I knew that part
um I'm a big I think there's something about physically writing things that is a different impact so and then I upload them to um uh to Evernote so I have the actual note itself on my iPhone as well definitely so yeah oh dude Evernote is [ __ ] fantastic but what I really love about it is that you take like like a note like this here this is a a note that I I wrote on on the Note wow decent writing man yeah not bad right see and you can put it here and it comes out like you know good man yellow paper cool it's really big can you see that it's you're not going to be able to see it because of the the the phone itself the just the the glare but handwritten notes come off it's so responsive the pen is so responsive it is definitely I agree any handwritten note that you make looks really like Alex ohanyan did uh he made a little Reddit alien on the Note we put it up I mean you do things with it there's no doubt that the the pen is a far more uh has far more Precision than your fingertip no no doubt about it so uh there's all kinds of industries that are affected by that comedy is one as you as you said but also like artists for example are doing insane illustrations on the Note like like top quality stuff that they on there it's it's the apps that exist like uh different sketching apps what do you got there is that something for an app sketching app yeah this is actually an art app and it's it's great because it has it's called colorbox HD and it has like every single pen you could possibly imagine it uses the phot so if you have a favorite pen that you actually like has the same charact yeah so now when you um draw with a pen a stylus what kind of stylus do you use you have a specific one you use no I mean I just got this app recently because I Al I've been trying to draw more on my iPad I've been trying to use my iPad more actually I have two iPads and I've been trying to just carry this around instead of a laptop lately uh surface Microsoft's version of it you know just released this whole thing where that you could trade in your old MacBook Air or and get like $650 credit towards their new uh surface which is like their version of like this mixed with a laptop or a MacBook Air so I've been trying to see if I could just use this more Tony
hinchcliff doesn't even have a computer everything that he uh uses is just on an iPad that's ridiculous I know that is what I'm trying to see if I can to though cuz I love this thing this is one of my favorite things of tech you I just bought that's uh it hasn't been delivered yet but I'm looking forward to it I bought a mechanical keyboard yeah I want to hear you just got some major street cred in the tech world for doing that yes you did oo nice yeah uh I I missed that there's something that you do yeah it comes back to user experience in general well I think about yeah user experience is very critical I think about things that I enjoy I drive a manual transmission most of the time I like that I like Shifting the gears like it's I'm I'm a part of it it's an enjoyable experience it's tactile you you feel the snicks of the gear I mean I wouldn't want to do it if I'm was stuck in traffic all the time but if I'm not stuck in traffic I know I'm not going to be I'll drive that car right and I think there's something to that tactile experience for sure there's a lot of there's a lot of push back Happening Now digital interfaces people miss all kind like mechanical keyboards are a perfect example it's also an issue with cars electronic steering electric steering is the new thing in sports cars and yeah what people don't like about there's a there's actually a blowback and more people are buying older sports cars that have no steering uh no like uh power steering right like the old Porsches the old Porsches were super light cars and they had manual steering so you turn the wheel you felt everything I mean you're connected to those front wheels like a go-kart right and the new ones are so totally electric so it's sort of like a video game there's no difference like if you have a hard turn or if you have an easy turn there's no difference in it's just going same as the Transmissions uh I drove a GTR which has a yeah the electronic transmission that's that's uh can can behave can can shift more efficiently than any human yeah but it's like what is that really about you know what are we really what are we really connected to like is it do we really need to go that Split Second faster or do we get more out of it like you said through feeling more of it it's hard to really pinpoint if you have an
old muscle car and it's an automatic you're missing out on half the fun of having an old school muscle car like shifting those gears yourself is I had an automatic Barracuda and I hated it I hated the fact that it was automatic it used to drive me crazy but that's how they when they were building it they were saying there's no way to put this engine with a manual trans they just Knuckleheads but I talked to a guy I was going to have it fixed up before I I W up just selling it and getting rid of it because it was just there was a negative connotation probably Associated not because of the automatic transmission it was because of the build I had it built for a television show and there was all this behind the scenes drama not from the people that made the show but the Builders of the car itself oh it's a lot of nightmare [ __ ] that I don't want to get into the big nightmare [ __ ] was that I don't trust those things I got it home and as I was pulling into my driveway the suspension just detached from the frame I was just on the highway 10 minutes ago going 65 70 mph in that [ __ ] death trap which would have been horrendous if that blew out I would have crashed into other people who knows and what if I was responsible for someone else being injured or or killed I would have felt horrible just to drive this cool thing yeah it's true I feel I sometimes get that feeling about uh fast cars in general like I feel like become great responsibility I feel like you drive that car and you get in an accident it's completely not your fault and everyone goes look at the [ __ ] in the in the fast car you absolutely and they should I guess they should because it it does say something about uh I guess it says something about your personality well it auto insures would say it does it also says something about your ability to control something and the problem with buying a fast car is that they don't have any gauge whatsoever on your ability to control it no say like Tanner F who's a race car driver the guy on top here if that guy walks into a Corvette dealership and buys a Corvette you can be rest assured he knows how to handle that car but there's a lot of people that get in those things they hit the gas they just spin into trees and slamming yeah I know sometimes I feel like it is kind of
bizarre that they let people walk out of the shop with 500 horsepower how about more how about in a shitty chassis like these new Shelby Mustangs I [ __ ] love the Shelby Mustangs right and they're they're not that good they're like they have a solid rear axle they're I mean it's a massive piece of engineering to control that solid reer axle but you could get one for like $50,000 and it has 660 [ __ ] horsepower that's insane it and it's so fun to drive they're one of the most fun American cars ever the new Shelby Mustangs they're not the best handling car they don't break the best breaks are mushy the suspension dog [ __ ] if you get a convertible you might as well be driving around in a [ __ ] wet lasagna noodle they're bouncing but the tactile feel that you get from those is so fun right the Boom the engine the the whne of the [ __ ] you hear the supercharger wine I mean I think sometimes efficiency is boring [ __ ] yeah Priuses suck yeah those are boring as [ __ ] not not just fuel efficiency but efficiency in general like think about coffee for example you can you could find some crazy way to Precision engineer some coffee bean and and and get it into a form factor that could ship to you already made but you talk to any coffee connoisseur and it's like they got to get the beans they got to roast the beans they got to put them in the grinder you know part of the experience is not just the consumption of it but everything leading up to it yeah actually I heard you talking about add ition last night and I was thinking and and you were talking about ritual on a podcast last night yes and I I really it seems to me that at least in my business the ritual is the thing yes the wanting is way better than the having it's a lot of it it's a lot I think it's better than the having because I don't know about all that because you want to know what happens when you when you have something is you immediately start to think about whether or not you should still have it you know like it has to enter your mind at some point I think that's an attitude though I I think that's a a matter of focus cuz there are things that I have you never feel like that that you'll never get rid of no my car I I mean I might one day sell it if I find something but I love it I've had
it for a couple years I'm not saying you can't love products I'm just saying it's like a relationship it just changes when you when you see a really hot girl and you start to hit it off or whatever that's a certain type of magic that can't ever happen again that's true yeah you can't ever recreate that and some people go through their whole lives trying get new magic to that first High I have a friend who did that for the longest time he eventually got married and had a kid but one of the things he said he goes I just want a lot of Beginnings there you go he goes he goes I don't like relationships man he goes in the beginning everybody's trying so hard everybody's so excited everybody's so friendly and he goes and then all of a sudden [ __ ] are yelling at you showing up at your house overnight he goes I just want a bunch of Beginnings where people like me but not not to make this not to pull this back and make it super nerdy but it's the same thing here right my channel is called unbox therapy for a reason that there is some kind of intangible thing that happens when you get some new thing yeah I think there's definitely something to it but there's also what you people would say it's material fetishism that you're what you're constantly obsessing about materials maybe you should go for a [ __ ] hike maybe you should go out and look at the birds and see The Meadows ex except that except that the eventual future is everybody lying down on a couch with a VR headset interacting with a world that is n real I think that's possible I I think it's probably inevitable I mean scientists believe that may be going on right now that might be the world we actually live in it's just so complex and so good totally could be this I wanted to talk about this cardboard over here is it getting back to VR this is I could tell you weren't excited when I first picked it up because it's a piece of damn par I assume there's something inside of it no there's nothing inside of it for real oh let's play this game guess what it is Joo it okay but you you can't open it though okay it stays this way yeah you know nothing of this ium no absolutely nothing to me I would assume there's like a memory card in here or a screen or something that you're protecting okay
that this is the shipping material that's what I would assume yeah this is the first thing they gave us at IO before they gave us any watches and this is the world's cheapest VR headset right here okay there you go that's what it is huh so it opens up it opens up there's lenses inside of it you you build it and there's a place that the phone sits there's and this is NFC enabled your phone sits on it so your phone mounts inside of here and the NFC on the back of the phone will launch an application and that application on the screen then is going to display uh uh uh through the lenses in interactivity similar to Oculus Rift but right here with a piece of cardboard for five bucks see that's what happens man someone gets cocky and they spend billions of dollars developing Oculus RI someone comes along and says not only [ __ ] you but [ __ ] you with cardboard well here's Google did Google did say [ __ ] you with cardboard but the real reason for that is because VR is it's going to be tough to sell in the long in the long run it's too expensive it's too elaborate and so developers won't get on board so this is a development material development kit so that you uh the imaginations of developers everywhere they can uh they can check out what their app might be like if they did a virtual reality version of it so for folks who are listening to this which is most people most people download this and listen to it what we're looking at is like say if you ever order a book on amazon.com and it comes in a little box it's very similar to that or maybe back when you used to buy CDs y you buy a CD on Amazon they would get delivered to you maybe you can still do that um they would look like that it's a small maybe like 10 by8 right 10 by8 probably yeah something like that just looks like a piece of cardboard have you done this yet nope can we do it now I don't know how smooth it's going to be just no we'll talk about other [ __ ] while you do it but let's just check it out let's see see how long it takes let's do it because I am completely fascinated I'm sure we canh think of things to talk about cardboard uh it's a g.co cardboard I believe is the site if you want to know more about it so Louis is opening this stuff and um there's a bunch of things in there uh for for folks who
listen this magnet as well uh controls your interactivity with the device so you Click by touching this magnet who okay so what he's got here is uh he's unfolded the Amazon box looks like an Amazon box I need scissors guys oh do we have scissors J oh no I don't this is perforated of course it is it does show scissors but I don't think I need to yeah let's get the scissors let's not [ __ ] this up this is the first time I'm sure we have scissors here that's how we cut our butter so this this is cut her butter oh perfect so he's uh taking this apart right now this is a Exclusive by the way is it no I don't think so no okay let pretend it is some other developers probably did it don't you know how this works but it's a it's mass media exclusive right now um so he's uh he's cutting this um this box open and inside the box or inside this folded up piece of cardboard there's lenses too um that look like those little uh instatic things what are those things called you you press that button and those those no you know it's sort of like a Polaroid but you remember those old school things where you'd press and it would like be a picture of a dinosaur and you'd look at it ooh view Master yeah very much like view Master lenses but I'm assuming they're a high quality lens that's just embedded in this plastic cuz they they look pretty slick does it look good I don't I'm not supposed to be looking that distance oh yeah well put this all together not play game he's going through the user experience no no no I'm not I'm not I'm just I'm a little bit perplexed right now to insert I think you should have to build this here you go Joe Rogan builds Google cardboard it's a good idea is there any um directions the directions are only what's on there and a finished product picture assemble insert the numbered tabs into the corresponding slots okay 4 4 3 6 2 oh that's all so everything's numbered that's interesting how they did it oh you know what in the meantime I'm going to hop on the Wi-Fi with this device so it's ready to go [Music] um yeah this is not good for a podcast no not at all I'm talk I'm not told you we'll try it out after yeah we'll try it out after and we'll uh maybe we'll post a quick video from here here yeah we
could do that we could do a quick video experimentation but the the the role here is not only to say [ __ ] you to Facebook for spending $2 billion but to essentially say that VR is not going to get anywhere in its current state and to give a a sort of uh way to prototype applications without necessarily in investing in a VR headset is that's that's the objective of this however I mean the the the games on the iPhone didn't kill PlayStation 1 or four or whatever the [ __ ] orox they didn't kill it but the rumor is these are the last of the consoles really yep the last for for example the 360 and the PlayStation 3 lasted for a decade yeah yeah but the the experience of like I just got an Xbox One recently you playing that UFC game no I haven't played it yet I think you and I should do one one one versus one it'll get [ __ ] ton of views yeah that would be fun I would definitely do that I I narrated it though it'd be weird playing with my own voice saying I'm Los right that's true you did narrate it yeah I forgot about that no that that would be extra cool that [ __ ] took forever I had I had to narrate all specific movements specific combinations specific oh they know what they're doing man those guys are bad mother the old days he boot up like a basketball game or something and it's all the Cadence is off you know and you can tell where the different phrases are inserted yeah yours is smooth man yeah they're bad [ __ ] they know what they're doing so did you go up to Vancouver for that no no we did it all in Calabasas actually oh really okay I know they have a big studio in Vancouver yeah they have Studios they they rent Studio space here too oh okay um warning the following glitches are very rarely occur in the game actually kicks all sorts of ass also this isn't actually Rogan and Goldberg silly oh this is Tommy Tuton or Tommy toold he does a good Joe Rogan let me hear put the volume on is impersonation yeah this is using glitches from the game this is really happening it's pretty good Alexander Guston John Jones and here we it is all over Goldie and Joe commentate UFC glitches SOS utilizing here Mike he's pretending to be a turtle that can't flip over he's trying to confuse Frank Meir oh that was you no the impression
of me take down using only his feet and he got it there's some great glitches this is Mummy guardy guard Al by casting a spell you know EA is not happy about this right now oh you know what I think they might have to like this G no dude this this guy's going to get [ __ ] up for this oh my god look how bad the glitch is so one of the benefits of completely freeezing your body during the fight with yourself f with yourself well one of the advantages is that your opponent is completely confused he's unsure if you're a real person anymore look how good that Cormier body move the cage and it is great for takedowns as you can see cor has landed too now and the Iceman is back on his feet this crowd is going crazy Joe ow referee LaVine with a psychic knockout oh they got connected with each other total disregard for the laws of physics this is funny Aldo with the big 10 spin take down down he's been Landing those effectively all night Joe guson is so elusive Joe what the guy just flew through the air what are they doing to make a guy do that I want to know what they do they're probably yeah I mean it's a glitch obviously but like what is the combination that makes the character behave like this guson for folks just listening to this he's flying through the air like spinning around and flipping and then landing on his head and flipping around with a nice 70t sliding take down oh she's out Joe she's out and Liz Carmo doesn't realize it Carm doesn't know that Ronda Rous is out those are nasty so she's punching at the air taking a moment to cat breath Eve LaVine looking intensely at the action Caro is going to Tire herself out Mike Rhonda needs to be careful not to hit her in the back of the head right into the butt back Mount and no answer for this mummy guard yeah people listen to this you're not going to get anything out of this so just go to EA watch UFC glitches Tommy told he's a really funny guy he does a lot of these videos he's got a whole series of them really funny stuff on most of it on UFC and MMA watch How It Ends I think it ends line with a big win again he had nothing happen hilarious it's funny so those those glitches not good yeah people are probably very upset they're
upset that you just showed that actually tough [ __ ] because uh it's not going to keep people from buying it I think it's just a patch of wave to fix that I think that's just funny enough to people go W there's a new UFC game out oh know what I mean right but that's the reason I'm that I'm not fully on board with it is only because it kind of [ __ ] up the relationship between independent content creators and game developers because what they do is and they it's reality they're going to take a Hardline stance and then and then it happened with Nintendo they [ __ ] up there were guys making a career posting videos about Nintendo [ __ ] gone complete career over H well that's bad on Nintendo really yeah and Nintendo got [ __ ] for doesn't change it doesn't change the reality you know why joke is they can attach all their that money all that advertising YouTube money to that's extra income now for uh Nintendo to be able to put Nintendo videos up now because Nintendo owns the rights to it so they get money off all these there's a real discussion about who about whose intellectual property that is that we just watched did we watch something from EA or did we watch something from Tommy tow hold tow hold and he see he doesn't have a product without them right he doesn't have a product without them this instance so they might put a block on that particular video I doubt they would this is why I doubt they would it's cuz the UFC sanctions his show they like his show cool so I'm sure he has some sort of an arrangement with them yeah so I don't think it's going to be an issue I think oh for the record I think it's funny as hell and I I would totally watch it all I was trying to say is that I've seen I have a lot of friends in the gaming side of YouTube and it's [ __ ] disaster yeah um how does that work like when guys are doing comments when they're commentating on a MCH who owns that like Star crash or Starcraft rather those are big things right true podcast and most of the super competitive uh gaming the developers are on board with it because that's a big part of their Community their business model but generally speaking they're also involved in the events themselves and the setup and whatnot so they have more control than an independent guy in his bedroom or whatever his office
chopping together something like that right you know um but there are are enormous YouTubers like tens of 10 million subscribers 20 million subscribers whatever that their whole model is playing games other people's intellectual property and there is no clear guideline yet on what's considered fair use and what isn't especially when you're commercializing the the content well the guys who make create the video games though would be foolish to try to stop any sort of an interactive Community like that that's what we all think but again you've got some gray-haired dudes sitting in an office that they actually got the after Blockbuster went under these [ __ ] and uh and you know that's that's their way of that's that's the way they behave and that's not going to change overnight listen this is how Blockbuster went down I warned them okay I was on the board I told them you got to be careful cuz these DVDs are on the way DVDs and Laser discs are going to ruin our Market it's amazing well pretty much everything within the next couple years I mean I I have a uh CD slot that I a USB CD slot that I attached watchs or DVDs on never used it once never touched it and it made me realize like remember when the floppy disc went away and everybody [ __ ] freaked out like apple said no more floppies like no you C [ __ ] well that's the weird thing about technology we were talking earlier about oh about how about how uh these devices are becoming uh almost a status symbol having old [ __ ] is people are going to sneer at you mhm you rock an old computer or an old disc hand somebody a CD see what they do they get upset go over some chick's house she got some old ass computer you're going to be like this [ __ ] is a broker crazy ass old ass computer is there's a weird there comp there's a weird uh there's like a tech Prejudice why don't you have an R key yeah you don't have an R key R key you just press that button you know where the r key used to be put a piece of tape over that thing fold some tape up draw the letter r on it and stick it over that little button do you do you save old Tech like like I just found my old uh uh Dash the other day I was one that had the first Dash I have a dash that's not there's a certain age at which I think it becomes cool again kind
of like cars like I recently uh showed my four-year-old the original Sega Genesis and we were playing Streets of Rage ah he he [ __ ] dominated I had four that's if you gave me that game at four I'd be crying you know so uh yeah I like to sort of go back in those origin stories in my childhood and stuff like that I did a unboxing video of the original NES Nintendo 1985 found like one in mint condition in the Box see people in the comments were telling me like listen this brought tears to my eyes did you smell I swear to God but it's not because of the product right it's because of the promise if you remember being a kid and that NES being under that Christmas tree at that moment if even if your dad was a [ __ ] up you know your mom was a [ __ ] that console strong words that console for a moment guaranteed a certain number of hours together because people used to game together like for me and my for me and my brother that's what it was the thing is under the tree you look at one another you're like I know what this means it's not about the console and and this is a huge problem with gaming now is that it's all online yet the most beautiful [ __ ] happens in real life you want to [ __ ] up the guy next to you not some dude in who knows where right that's why land parties are so fun yeah exactly you know you high five each other after you [ __ ] shoot each other do it in my in my parents house uh main floor upstairs and then immediately after the multiplayer match would be over the losing team would run up to where the winning team was and immediately start fighting you know whatever goofing around like get pissed yell at one another go back do another round Etc yeah those are fun man land parties are fun that's so so true too about so many games taking place online now so much of the experience is people not interacting with other people online that's a very different experience than being in a room like if we set up computers on this beautiful big ass table this would be a great place for like a land party this would be the coolest land party ever definitely marioart we should totally have a [ __ ] Quake party here I'm down I haven't played quake in forever I bet I suck at it you be my ass I was never I
was never that good so well I was never good but I was good compared to regular people but I got I got listen to this elitest talk over there true good compared to regular people compared to regular people I'll [ __ ] you up but compared to like those real Quake players right like those guys always killed me yeah well see this is about like the brands trying to to own the entire experience they want to own not just your money when you buy the game but they want to own everything you do with that game after the fact well I like that you take this psychological approach though because I think it's very interesting not just the psychological approaches to the reason why people become Fanboys about particular Brands but the interactive experience of of two people enjoying a video game together is like those those fight games those karate games you know like Mortal Kombat style do get out with each other that's half the fun is that you're doing it with another person we used to uh you know get home from school and I mean you knew who was good the guy who was good was the guy down the street y you know it's like dude beat the game didn't die once you know y there were Legends Legends were made you know now it's an anonymous face somewhere else and everyone's bitching and complaining online you get on Xbox Live it's a disaster the thing about those games though is that they can make the day vanish oh definitely they are magic y you throw those games on your day and oh look you're starving to death and it's 3:00 in the morning you're like what the [ __ ] happened that happened [ __ ] yeah what was it World of Warcraft yeah yeah that baby died more than one yeah more than one there was a few of them was war yeah Warcraft see those games scare the [ __ ] out of me I won't get invested for that reason dude I think what's going to happen though especially with all the Apple TVs and and like Google TVs and stuff that we're getting going to they're going to start taking over the game Market to a point where all our phones are going to be controllers like if you have an Apple TV you can use you know we can download a Angry Birds and we all come over to my house we all pull out our phones up your controller app and we all are playing well you can
already send we have Apple TV you could already send images and video to the screen you could watch it up on the big screen but watch a video ultimately this they can't if unless you're connected if unless you're tapped in Oculus Rift style plugged in they can't monetize what's going on here the enjoyment we're having they don't want that it doesn't do [ __ ] all for them m like the Nintendo Wii when it first launched it was all about getting together with friends right it didn't even have online gaming I believe and you play Wii Sports and people goofing around in front of the [ __ ] TV and dancing and doing whatever it was it was to it got to a point and then now Nintendo has all kinds of problems because at first it was like it was immediately appealing and then it eventually fizzled out it didn't have that same kind of nobody gives a [ __ ] about we I never hear we exactly exactly put it in your bedroom it changes everything yeah what what happened oh you're back to playing I took I took my Wii U never used it I got the new Wii U has the nice big controller a tablet and stuff never touched it decided [ __ ] it I'm going to put in my bedroom TV use it for Netflix now I can't get enough of it cuz it's got a huge screen so you're scrolling through Netflix surfing the net and then you watch it on the screen yeah you watch it on the screen it's the perfect bedroom video game so better as a controller than as a video game console yeah it kind of is but but it's it's just great because your controller is like it's like having an iPad and you're searching for videos on Netflix which is way better than using your remote control to find the r s you know when you're trying to find the name of a movie that is annoying as [ __ ] that you can't just go like that and put Apocalypse Now you know um what do you think about the Microsoft version of that the Xbox the connect is that what it's called kinetic what is it called connect yeah and it's like a video a thing it's it's a camera sees your body move how is that not ready for prime time oh it works you don't look excited it's great there was a huge controversy with it over them having it all be always on right so they could watch you [ __ ] on the couch so what sh we seem to coming that welcome
to the podcast yeah um but we're immature perfect perfect spot um so there was a big controversy at first that that that nobody wanted it and they were including It Anyways then it was going to be always on and then and then it was going to be expensive and and all that [ __ ] and and the reason I think people don't want it is because like an Xbox buyer you got to look at the core demographic of who's going to get an Xbox the minute it comes out it's it's there's a certain sex and a certain age group Etc that that stuff is popular with and they want to you know run around shooting people online essentially the vast majority or play sports games or whatever it is and there's just only so much you can do right now in terms of a motion game do I want to do Dance Dance Revolution yes do I want to do why don't um people learn martial arts on those things striking martial arts learn That's The Joe Rogan game the fitness uh apps Joe are some of the best things about the connect because it reads your body and so like if you're doing like uh like some kind of hard workout that they have available using Xbox Fitness it will tell you if you're not bending your arms right like bend your arms bend your arms and then it tracks how much calories someone should do that with martial arts techniques yeah because they do no no they no no no no no not somebody with his credibility that would be something that would be really benefit IAL to someone learning martial arts techniques cuz most of the Striking techniques whether it's uh striking with your hands or with your feet knees and elbows you're learning them in the air before you ever strike things so as like as like a beginner sort of not even just as a beginner like one of the most important things uh when I teach people uh kicks specific kicks is practicing them in the air because if you're constantly relying on hitting something to maintain your balance and to maintain the dist distribution of your weight you bounce off of things and you'll you'll rely on those things and you don't penetrate them enough and one of the keys to learning how to kick correctly is actually learning how to kick in the air it's also controlling the dexterity of your legs because you're not relying on anything to stop the momentum of your
shot you have to tighten up your entire body on on the extension of the the kick or the punch and so in doing so you actually strengthen the tendons and if you're doing it correctly you develop more dexterity more dexterity you're throwing kicks like the ability it was always a thing in demonstrations um my instructor when I was a kid uh Jun Kim would do these he would do these really impressive demonstrations where they would throw kicks at your face like you would stand there and they would stop them like right here like stop we would all we would all do that in demonstration Michael Ali who's another one of my instructors who's this incredible uh tawo blackbell multip time national champion and he's a big tall guy and he would throw these insanely impressive kicks like half an inch from your face just wheel kicks where the toe just just he knew because he threw so many kicks in the air he knew where objects were he knew how to stop so you developed this dexterity so you could use that like teaching things correctly all you would essentially need is an open area where you could extend your leg that's what I was just about to say is that how many people are going to put their foot through their TV there's there's actually two there's actually two games that I know of it's one's called UFC trainer uh which is a game that just does that it teaches you different UFC moves but there's a new uh Ronda Rousey one also that uh that use it just does that it pretty much does that it uses your connect and it it teaches you different moves kick to the balls really yeah that the kick kick the balls look at this ready go and kick the balls this is ridiculous get the [ __ ] out of here can you do a [ __ ] punt can you do a okay I just want to identify something when you well as you had that video up did anybody notice the physique of the two guys playing they look like the average video game player yeah like there's your problem have you ever seen the uh Magic the Gathering photo where the dude went to a magic the Gathering Place and took pictures of everybody's ass cracks him like giving a thumbs up only in front of all these different ass cracks like and you know so that's what I'm getting at though with the connect is it's like for guys that are really into that thing you don't have a problem
getting out of the house anyway you know what I mean it's like is is there yeah those godamn people who move their bodies that's right that's right exactly so I don't know I don't know if motion gaming will ever be will ever be a big thing or if if it is a big thing it's it's going to be so far down the road that it's just so immersive so amazing I like it more for Skype I like it more for like like different applications gaming connect yeah it's so cool being able to Skype with like I could call you on my Xbox called Joe Rogan and video Skype with you and you're on my projector my screen just like Prett dope that's some godamn science fiction [ __ ] right there that is pretty dope do you ever do that on the road do you ever bring a laptop on the road and HDMI it to the TV and Skype through the TV and yeah uh I no I was at the airport the other day and some kid was bringing his console full console the whole deal controllers games do that suitcase open do that I mean I to to be honest I'm not that addicted I feel like this whole process of doing what I do has actually desensitized me in a way to a lot of this stuff like I think I was in in some ways more of a fanatic before than now really does that make any sense hm how come are you jaded maybe hm but you don't seem like it no I'm not maybe you're just normalized what it is is it's like so much for a lot of people like I said these devices are really important to them you get they get some new thing that's like a super highlight Etc of course you're going to be psychologically impacted when companies are just sending you [ __ ] everything m MH how can it not it affects you get everything for free everything everything do you get to keep them no not everything I shouldn't say everything do you get to keep them this I this I don't you have to pay for your laptop that Apple won't give you [ __ ] really ever well why don't you use something that's you say if you say there's all these Windows computers that are great it's just the user experience it's not as good when I don't he loves Windows Joe interesting Windows interesting no I'm not I'm not paid by it read between the lines you can think for yourselves ladies and
gentlemen you hear it as clearly as I let me put it this way let me put it this way pretty much the the vast majority of people in my business on YouTube I'm I know them all personally use Apple Computers yeah it's kind of universal amongst anybody who has enough money to buy an Apple computer the PC people are going to [ __ ] not like you saying that listen I'm sorry folks I tried Windows 8 it's dog [ __ ] yeah tried Windows 7 Diggity diggity dog [ __ ] there there's a reason why Apple is is the company they are and Microsoft is the company they are that's that's the way I like to say it you we used Alienware for the podcast for a while which makes [ __ ] awesome computers we used it for the podcast for a while because they were sponsoring us right so they gave us some free computers and and I like that they sponsor Fighters too so I wanted to uh they do right they have uh quite a few quite few guy just fought little guy Mighty Mouse Johnson oh no no he's not sorry maybe I take that back he's got a big sponsor though oh Xbox yes he does Xbox yeah um but a lot of guys have sponsored so we we really the the computers are incredible I mean and they as far as like high-end laptops like for gaming they're [ __ ] monstrous definitely but I didn't like the interface the windows notifications kept popping up all these different the notifications drive me [ __ ] crazy that [ __ ] was ridiculous this is a clunk this is a clunky operating system you guys are Clunkers it's true man they uh Gates is too busy chasing [ __ ] that's what he's doing yeah he's out there doing coke hey you can't stay that flying flying around on this private [ __ ] spacecraft allegedly allegedly tooling around [ __ ] Harbor in his boat Microsoft does doeses some good things like the X the Xbox is a success the Xbox is a success why if Microsoft is so goddamn popular why if Microsoft is so immersive Microsoft's Pro problem is that they're so damn popular that's it they had to [ __ ] hold on to Vintage retro stuff for so long because because otherwise they would give up a percentage of the market God forbid somebody can't type a Word doent are open their Excel spreadsheet from 1997 that's really what held them back I think it's a part of it I I mean how did they hold them back in the user
interface though because when they put out when they put out windows uh 7 they put this new was it seven or eight no sorry windows8 new UI uh which they didn't really want to give a name but uh it was essentially a touch-based UI that it was a huge overhaul right where now they wanted one platform to work on tablets laptops desktops Etc people freaked out people were like how am I going to do this A B C D because of the market penetration of the old OS Windows 7 and XP before that so on and so forth the the voice of the people that their old customers was louder than that of the new customers they didn't have yet much like the automakers in in you know the the domestic automakers I think had the same problem your your user base gets so big that your user base gets so big that you're more worried about pissing them off than you are about attracting new people wow that's weird it is they have to take those things into consideration when they when they innovate they have to pull back all the time oh man but if you think about it no one ever bought a Macbook because they were worried about Microsoft Word it's true that's the key is you bought a Macbook because it was a tool just a platform and essentially like when you we deal with things like documents spreadsheets uh you know doc things almost can open those now it's not just Microsoft Word exactly and that's the problem is that what what the exclusivity that they had for so long is not really that important anymore doesn't make any sense once upon a time it was but now I mean Google has everything you can do everything in the cloud Google Docs does everything I haven't I haven't touched a Microsoft product in a very long time in terms of software which brings me to those Google laptops how do you feel about those Chromebooks do you like them I love them do you I think they're great you [ __ ] with them I think it's it's the perfect finally price point to be able to give somebody like your mom a laptop and have her do exactly what she wants to do with no extra [ __ ] like my mom just probably wants to just surf the net maybe look at some photos watch some Netflix and that's all she's really probably going to do to the max she's not going to be editing videos and if she deserv I'm sure there's an app that
she can actually do it at if she wanted to the problem is a lot of people were saying with Chromebooks is why aren't Chromebooks just Android books right this enormous ecosystem of apps available on Android is it because of the fact that Chrome is their browser and they're trying to Chrome is their browser make their brows more popular Global leader it's the is it yep wow by by far to isn't that crazy they beat out Microsoft Internet Explorer ask people ask the average person how they feel about Google in general you know and everyone always thinks it's a that they're a positive brand yeah ask them how how they feel about Microsoft so good it's a completely different so maybe there's some some some public relations issues I don't know exactly what got [ __ ] up there but Google appears like this company that's giving us all this great [ __ ] and not asking for anything because what they're asking for is [ __ ] way deeper than that yeah they're asking for a connection with you they're asking for you they're asking for yeah they're immersing themselves in your world and to control your house they want more than your wallet Google and and Microsoft and Apple and everybody else do remember that song we want your soul we want your your house your is it oh wait no no no no somebody else anyway cool song but essentially about that this this IM immersive connection do you think that Microsoft [ __ ] up because they were a part of they were essentially one of the very first like portals into this new world like using Windows and this world of technology but now this new world has kind of emerged from the people who grew up in the internet and they grew up with the accountability of forums of social media of yeah take it as a given yeah and that this this accountability has sort of shaped the way they do business where which is what I've been saying for a long time is what gives me hope because I think the smartest most Innovative most Progressive people in in terms of technology and Innovation also are very ethical right it's it seems to be a part of the whole package like you don't hear about evil big new tech companies you hear about companies like Google companies that are trying to do things correctly there there were a couple of protests at google.io of
course yeah they're uh they recently acquired Boston Dynamics yeah they make robots they make pretty [ __ ] gnarly robots scary robots bro and so um they also they also some of their technology goes into some of those drones doing that activity out well how about artificial intelligence as well I mean they also have Kur on board who wants to make people turn into [ __ ] computers yeah so they're the overlords bro I don't honestly don't be scared I feel like super technologically advanced people are insanely secular I don't know where their moral compass is I think they get off on control really yeah in what way well this look at Google's ecosystem for example or even Apple's okay everywhere you go the objective of one product is to get you to buy the next one is it though is the objective of their products let's like talk about Google Maps Google Google is an advertising company right and and it's funny that I'm talking about them because in in a sense they employ the both of us we both post [ __ ] on YouTube and yeah I'm a big fan sense money and I love I have a unique insight as well because a good friend works there at a very high level and my friends work there too it's I'm not trying to say anything negative about it but no I know you're not yeah but the model is such that for us to get the most out of Technology we technology has to get the most out of us yeah but isn't that just a side effect of the immersion sure I mean I don't think that's what I said it's not negative or positive it's just is yeah but that's like what we're talking about today about your phone preemptively knowing how far away you are from work cuz you're going to work and we we always look at the negatives but the positives that are pretty but let's go back to the Porsche or let's go back to the muscle car that there will always be individuals that liked it better the way it was before yes well the good thing is you can have both but you can't with phones you can't some dudes do they go back the flip phon do they we sell them on tting T sell flip phones yeah they sell the beautiful [ __ ] shitty button phone guess would be that that's not an expanding Market Dana White he [ __ ] uses those all the time that's how he
does all his texting whenever he Tex appreciate you telling that to everybody yeah he loves it he jokes about it he takes I have pictures of him holding up his phone he um he can do it at at dinner he could be at dinner and he's so good with his thumb that he can be underneath the table and he can be texting you that's a very bizarre use case scenario I like it I really like it he's a real wizard with it so I've had him show me he's done it before where he'll he'll go go okay he'll look look at his phone real quick and then he puts it on because he gets it onto my number and he puts it under the table and just and then all of a sudden my my thing dude I'm texting you right now I'm like shut the [ __ ] up this is crazy he does it all with his thumb because his thumb is so educated as to where so he's like three presses to get an S he's doing all that [ __ ] yeah he's doing all that [ __ ] ridiculous that's a skill he doesn't want to give up you know he's got to stick with it it is a skill I was reading this thing the other day about uh typing and handwriting recognition and one of the things that they were talking about was shorthand is that like people forget that actually writing things yes Greg Shand I think it's called I forget the it's like really old technology like from the 1800s oh the the implementation of it when they first started using it and like what things stand for what value and what and you could write hundreds of words per minute in Shand faster than you could ever [ __ ] type wow yeah but it never took off well it did it just took off for you know people who didn't have computers and then once people develop typewriters and computers like there's a new pen that they have that uh I haven't I I ordered it just to see like what the [ __ ] the technology was like I used have one oh one of those scribe pens yes this is what it does it doesn't just SC no what this is what it does as you're writing it takes a photograph of your notes cool it also transcribes an audio like if there's an audio recording capability so say if you you and I were talking I was doing an interview with you and I was asking you about all these different things and I was writing down my notes it would take photos of the notes and it would take photos of the
notes and correspond those notes to the audio recording so if I said ask him ask him how big his dick is right and then like I would click on that and then it would go back to the conversation where you were talking about women always being in pain when you have sex like oh yeah that's why you know so for like students a student in a lecture or whatever that would perfect example perfect example as long as it didn't the lecture was clear enough you didn't take in too much extraneous noise yeah they were close to the actual Professor whatever but what a great idea I mean I I think I I'll should pull up the uh the name of it just in case um I've heard of them before I've never tried one I'd like to I had the old one where you just like had a little memory card and it just remembered what you wrote right and yeah I just never does it does it translate the written word into a digital form that's a very good question OCD I think I think it did back I don't I never really played with it too much but I know a lot of things can do that now like most most scanners can do it it's called a live scribe Sky WiFi pen it's really interesting man I'm I'm really curious to try this thing out I mean I wish almost that I was a reporter well report on it when you get it man too much work but um the theide AA behind it is quite fascinating and I love that I I I had read something about shorthand and that's where uh it it uh yeah these guys have been around for a bit but this is obviously a new product yes yeah Shand is [ __ ] interesting man it's interesting yeah it is Greg Shand that's what it's called named after the inventor who's named John Robert Greg a system of pen stenography that gained popular popularity in the early 20th centur but it was uh cre created a long [ __ ] time ago no kidding yeah um but I love the idea that this pen records an audio right of us having a conversation and then like I should use it for podcast notes really that's I think I might actually use it because I have stacks of these things sometimes that I go over like these notes that I make during shows [ __ ] I feel like I'm underperforming you only I don't I think you took like one note so far today well it's really usually things that I wanted to talk about that forgot oh or that I
knew I was going to forget or didn't want to forget or an idea that I had while it was happening but I don't remember half of these [ __ ] things Nigerian gay marriage okay what the [ __ ] does that mean the World's End uh herpes infected monkey in Florida uh emotional needs dog some juicy stuff there man Yeti Attenborough Colorado floods yeah I mean I don't know what half these [ __ ] things mean I don't know what the point was but if I had if I had written them down with a corresponding audio recording I mean then I would really be able to click on it possibly jar the yeah that's when he was talking about this and I wanted to bring up that right amazing I mean just I love that aspect of uh of new technology and apparently it works on a spe special type of paper as well yeah I'll find out all the about I won't do an unboxing but I'll I'll talk about it on this I think you should do I think you should do an I'm not doing it I think you should I'll tell you about it and you can do it that's what you do I have decided to limit myself as far as how many things I do yeah you have to if I don't I will just keep doing things true and next thing you know I'll be a professional rocketball player or something stupid which would be pretty cool take up a lot of time yeah I whatever it is that I have whatever my disease is I know how to manage it that's good don't do too many things so no unboxing videos no no no I I was just joking around but you want to know something like the origin of unboxing videos is the everyday guy not in this world yes you know do getting something and giving you his reaction like in some ways you be you you become sophisticated to a point where you might not be addressing the things that the everyday guy is looking to have addressed it's possible but um essentially you are the everyday guy yeah I still am the everyday guy but you're immersed in this world of technology in a far deeper level and isn't it the everyday guy opportunity to listen to that watch those and then I'm on the I'm on The Joe Rogan podcast right now so you go you know in some ways yes you are the everyday guy but when you start talking to these Brands directly things get [ __ ] weird but things get weird it affects you yeah but does it it does it doesn't affect us I
mean it does but it doesn't it does man hm in what way do you do you uh do you like put on kid gloves for LG no no no no no I just I'm having a hard way to I'm finding it hard to articulate but Tech news right big Tech sites that are out there right they would have a report underneath on a review for example the product they're reviewing there's a huge Banner ad right above it oh yeah but if they are honest and always committed to being honest I mean that isn't that goddamn essential for the company themselves if you if you put out a dud I'm sorry but you put out a [ __ ] dud what you need to do is get rid of those weak ass engineers and designers put out that dud if you don't your [ __ ] business is going to go under they do do that there's a tide coming and if you got a shitty Foundation your [ __ ] house is going to get into the ocean definitely but these Tech websites have a floor full of salese and a floor full of reporters those floor full whoever's the problem they they need to I'm not saying anybody's the problem I'm saying I'm saying you're not reporting on a murder you're reporting on something that somebody's spending a lot of money to try and sell but if it's dog [ __ ] it's dog [ __ ] I agree with that but that's not so much of an issue anymore because this is getting really iterative it's not so much an issue anymore of dog [ __ ] or not dog [ __ ] it's we're talking about a sliver right in fact a popular Tech website that I won't name for a very long time has been running ties they do a point analysis on devices and they've been running Ties on the flagship uh Android phones and the iPhone a tie on a point like a decimal point analysis how the [ __ ] do they tie exactly well do they tie exactly because they just tie exactly no they do not because so they're doing it because they don't want to piss people off so you don't believe them I don't I won't make that leap but when I see something like that I automatically my my mind starts telling me that there's something more here than meets the eye isn't there an issue also with putting a quantitative value on a review def a five star or a four and a half star it's so beyond that I'm talking like 8.3 right decimal point analysis well we
saw that about the UFC game when you were watching that connect UFC game it was like 6.5 Y in its review that's right because those exist because people want to be told what to buy they don't want to do the work H and I'm not hating on the audience everybody's busy as [ __ ] you know if you can tune in and find out what the best [ __ ] is in five minutes or less so be it do it yeah the problem is that the more you take your guard down and the more that you allow for yourself to be programmed to respond to those things the less likely that you're going going to be able to get any kind of accuracy out of it totally makesense sense yeah I I I see what you're saying it certainly opens up the door to that possibility and so you've got all these people in the business calling themselves journalists I've always been against it I've always been against it you I don't think you can be a product journalist well you know that's a very interesting situation um when someone's an embedded journalist right and what do you mean by embedded well you also ined with the company that you're eded yeah yeah yeah I mean there's an issue with mixed martial arts that like the UFC has had problems with companies that have been critical of the UFC and it's damaged the relationship that they have with the with the reporters but if you're a real reporter and you have a real opinion that the the problem is when you work for a corporation when you're an independent like yourself it is the responsibility of that independent to be completely objective because that's what everybody turns to you for and as soon as we can't count on you for that the whole process of having an independent it becomes irrelevant like it doesn't matter you're you're not an independent you might say you're an independent but you're an LG fan boy there there's no doubt that there's no doubt that the reason channels like mine have success is because we are third parties because we are not in any meaningful way attached to anything and because for the most part we look to be uh like like everybody else like here we are we started a YouTube channel well anybody can start a YouTube channel so the context helps helps to support the messaging in a way but the problem is that the the further along this path you
go the more important you become and the diff and the treatment changes you know it's like if you were walking it's like uh if you're a really good-look person that's me [ __ ] if you're Joe Rogan and you're walking around yeah you know what [ __ ] it let's use Joe Rogan as an example use Brian Redban too late too late sexy face if you're walking around you get a certain kind of treatment and that treatment that you get develops character you can't help it it's like hot women hot women grow they have a certain amount of worth that they attach to themselves because they everywhere they go they treated like you can't hate them for it that's the world we're a product of the environment right and I can't pretend that I am not a product of the environment that I have to exist within well I have very specific Like rules that I F when I when I engage in in the in my environments where I have privileges I have very specific rules let's hear about it like martial arts a big one it's a huge one because the UFC that I work for is the big greatest mixed martial arts organization ever however along the way during the time that I've been employed with them over the past 12 years there have been instances where I've actively promoted Fighters that were in other organizations really because I like them cuz I like them cuz I think they're really good I have to be honest but they didn't pay you anything not a [ __ ] penny because I have to be honest like when Fedor Milenko was in Pride he was one of the best heavyweights in the world I constantly would talk about him on broadcasts to the point where like some people didn't like like it and some people thought it was like not smart not good for the but it is smart you know why it's smart because I have to be honest if there's some guy out there that's murdering [ __ ] in some other organization and and I pretend that the guys we have are the only guys that I want to see fight then that's ridiculous that I'm a ridiculous person and I don't deserve that position I completely agree with you so in that same vein isn't it the case with tech reporting like yes you do get a very privileged position LG sending to you their sexy new watch and you're getting all these let me let me explain let me
let me give you an example of this this phone the most popular single device on a planet you paid for it yes yeah but this phone that this phone specifically is it's it's it's probably the best way to do an analysis of the entire Market because of how popular it is and because of how important it is as a piece of news iPhone iPhone iPhone 5s with that little thumb print thingy you can use your dick for as well did you know that yes I did bet you did and you could spoof it and you could spoof it with a little bit of wax but anyway spoof it yeah hack it how dare you you chop off somebody's finger and use an 8vt battery or you could do that yeah 8vt battery I think if you catch a person sleeping and dip their finger in hot wax that would do the job too yeah you don't have to chop violent over there to a terrible level this device you're on the go this device moves the needle the reason Apple doesn't spend as much money on marketing as Samsung cuz they don't have to this phone comes out it's on cover in the New York Times hands down done right why is that well it's the best there's there's a couple of reasons though it's the best it's actually it's actually not that easy when they are about to launch a new device they give this out to people they send it to Apple does send stuff to people not to me but to people how come not to you oh God knows who gets them it's out those [ __ ] TR traditional media people e like [ __ ] business week that kind of [ __ ] exactly Wall Street Journal Bingo some [ __ ] crook over there got it Ling his pockets with money let me tell you how it works you oh I just noticed that was shot in Toronto that Jimmy Hendrick picture oh yeah man heroin got arrested for heroin that's cool um okay so a very selective group of people gets this device then they maintain something uh beside it called The Blacklist and a blacklist is people who are never going to get the device for one reason or another there's many ways to get on that list you blacklisted no there's no public record of The Blacklist it's just a blacklist everyone in the business knows that it exists I want to do a [ __ ] documentary on this by the way cuz nobody would watch it except you and your [ __ ] crazy friends that review [ __ ] no no no no cuz apple apple is a
giant like apple affects our lives in ways everyone's life in a way that might not be I might not be articulating but um so how does that process work how do they decide who gets that device well you would assume that the people with the biggest audiences maybe would get it or maybe just send it to anybody who wants to talk about it you would think all the exposure would be good right well why is it that when this device launched like 15 [ __ ] got it worldwide like a super limited number in inner circle of reporters because they can count on those people to only give glowing reviews and if those people working for whoever decide that they're going to write something different guess where they can find their new home The Blacklist the [ __ ] Blacklist yeah but that's their fault whose fault their fault really because the reason that newspapers doors are open is because of the [ __ ] device the coverage sells the ads the reason why newspapers doors is open they haven't [ __ ] burned to the ground yet the great fires of the Internet it's not but truthfully it's not just the newspapers there's big Tech sites that get them as well I'm sure yeah so there's a there is a group that gets it but the problem is you have this fear this inherent fear that if you don't do what the controlling party says to do you don't get that access to the device anymore and unfortunately it's the access to the device that drives the traffic because if you get this review up a week before anyone else guess what happens to everybody else's reviews what happens well the the value of them dips because the majority of the purchasing and purchasing decisions are made based on the very initial reviews but how much value is there in a hi trffic site these days oh ridiculous big massive value huge [ __ ] huge so a site like like Aris Technica is that a high trffic one yeah that's a big one The Verge is Big which is the Verge the ver big so a guy who writes for one of those is going to get access let me say let me put it this let me let me say this like this if you're a reporter working at The Verge and you get the task of doing the new iPhone and listen I am not [ __ ] attacking The Verge the iPhone is a great phone arguably the best phone on the market and nobody really comes out
and says [ __ ] that's untrue about it I'm just talking about a potential that exists that steers in a direction outside way outside the world of Journalism that doesn't happen when somebody is murdered or you're investigating a crime or you're whatever it is that investigative journalism is when the story is something that somebody else controls and dishes to only certain parties there's behavioral patterns that exist because of that relationship of course and there's also behavioral patterns that exist in it being financially beneficial for you to support certain companies that's what I'm saying and this is also the psychological aspect of knowing that you're on this Elite list of 15 journalists that are going to receive a new phone that's right you're like look at you I can't write that like do you think guys write like really scathing reviews and then like Park them aside and go that was just for fun let's suck some dick definitely there's guys there's guys that have written stories after the fact after they've been blacklisted uh about explaining the real explaining what happened they're not getting the device anymore and the the problem is The Verge for example has record page views the days these these devices launch record page views I'm sure so they have to they have to have it early they have they can't the door like literally people are employed on that paycheck you're seeing a percentage that came from that [ __ ] report from having access to that product but if you get one like if how how much difference would it make if you get one the day it comes out like when everybody which is what I do which is wait in line like a [ __ ] idiot look at you you're old school but for for this stuff the other stuff I get you know I get early now and the other brands do it they're like [ __ ] it yeah let's get this [ __ ] out there you know Apple [ __ ] no their PR team is like I'm definitely blacklisted after this podcast so are you actually this podcast yeah why I'm using we're both using Apple products we both have iPhones both both have it doesn't matter because I even brought up the notion the notion is enough that's a lot of Apple Engineers write me all the time they love listening to this show I think we have like this weird cheat code shut the
[ __ ] up dude yeah we have a lot I just [ __ ] it all up for everybody sorry don't worry about it I love the [ __ ] I love the [ __ ] I love the stuff they're making all the rest of it I'm just talking about people prancing around calling themselves journalists when that's not the reality it's not an Open Access story it's not like some [ __ ] went down in some foreign country and you and another guy both have the same opportunity to go there and investigate it this is way different right I see what you're saying I I absolutely see what you're saying and the when there's such a a large Financial benefit to having Early Access especially when you look at page views and things along those lines I mean when an iPhone comes out you have essentially like 24 to 48 hours people are really freaking out that's right and during that time that you can accumulate millions and millions of hits right oh it's It's Tricky [ __ ] man but if everybody [ __ ] did it ethically but you see with iPhones iPhone may be a bad example because it's such a stellar product and it's really and a uniquely controlled situ ation which is what we were talking about earlier which is their whole argument like look what we've done like the reason why we have this controlled environment is that we put together the hardware we put together the operating system we make everything compatible there's nothing that [ __ ] up right but why but why are they sending out 15 units if they know their [ __ ] is badass cuz they're tardy your [ __ ] bro tardy [ __ ] snarky comments yeah they are they're because they deep down they are [ __ ] masterminds at controlling public relations yeah Mastermind is the climate any different with Tim Cook as opposed to Steve Jobs Fanboy alert I know who's the CEO of Apple that's pretty good uh I don't know that I can accurately answer that I I don't I think people always says that that under Steve's influence they had product guidelines forecasts for way in way after his death so I think they're probably still executing on stuff that he had in the pipeline what a [ __ ] Maniac that guy was definitely I know there was a an article that some billionaire investor guy dumped all his Apple stock after he read the biography
cuz he said Steve Jobs is an [ __ ] oh probably I I think that's why he dumped it I should pull that up because it's a fascinating story I think it's pretty hard to manage a company of that stature and not be an [ __ ] also you got to think about like what is an average person's life an average person's life is you have a job but you also have like a [ __ ] family and a lot of other [ __ ] you do your job is not your whole life to Steve Jobs Apple was his whole [ __ ] life and his personal life suffered because of it yeah I'm sure well that's probably had something to do with his health as well probably you know investor Dr dumps Apple stock I need to get one of these Nexus phones now now I can't stop thinking that I may never have ever used the actual [ __ ] operating system dude you can find clips of the new even newer one they're calling it l right I saw the saw the dude it looks so beautiful like just the way they're looking at design and working with Dimensions up and down now is the Nexus uh is that five this is five yeah is the Nexus 5 the only one that does that or does somebody like Sony or somebody running 4.4.4 now is just the Nexus will always get updates first it doesn't have to come through the carrier this is an unlocked device completely open right this isn't this guy's name was Julian Robertson he's number 53 on Forbes billionaire list and CNN reported Monday uh this is a while ago ago this is way back in 2013 in October um right after the book came out that the guy this hedge fund investor sold all of his shares in apple because he's read the biography of Steve Jobs and uh decided that Apple the founder of Apple was a really awful person he admits that stock did very well for him but he would rather let someone else make the money from uh now on said the CNN investment show closing bell see even that I'm all I'm all skeptical that whole yeah that's crazy though that he's saying it caused a crisis of Consciousness yeah wow a guy that's worth billions saying anything it says I came to the conclusion that it was unlikely that a man as really awful as I think Steve Jobs was could possibly create a great company for the long term I just don't believe that bad guys do well in the long run well who [ __ ] wrote that
book though you know is well how does he I mean how well does he know Steve Jobs I mean obviously you can decide to paint a a d like you don't know your best friend all the time you know him when you're hanging around with him there's a lot of times when people are alone like to paint a portrait of Steve Jobs without a steeply intimate relationship with him I think you know you could go all sorts of ways you could go the way of these 15 companies that get their Apple phones in advance and paint this really glowing glamorous picture or you could just paint some picture that you think is going to sell a lot of [ __ ] books some scathing awful depiction of it's like you ever watch uh historical depiction like a historical documentary like like Lincoln you see the the show no the problem is you know those people didn't really say that oh right right you know you know they didn't say that in that author reenacted so when you have like a book on Steve Jobs life I mean you have some vague facts that you don't maybe know the entire circumstances the context of it's like you're you're you're flavoring things you have facts and then you're throwing those facts in and pouring your own colors on them and your own shapes to definitely to paint your own picture I I I I sort of Wonder though getting back getting back to the [ __ ] comment like in the movies and stuff as well he'll come in and fire somebody in front of everyone else oh wait a minute this guy's an idiot CU listen to the rest of his quote and an interesting Twist of logic Robertson also said that if Steve Jobs was still alive he'd still be an apple investor oh and then he said after watching the Ashen Kutcher movie he thought Steve Jobs was sexy and got all his St oh that you didn't say that it's not even Steve Jobs it's Ashton Kutcher says no questioning that he's the man who killed three and a Half Men what does that tell billionaires they're all [ __ ] crazy well if I was a billionaire I wouldn't do any interviews I'd just be out balling I'd just be flying around in [ __ ] spaceships and throwing champagne at people why would you even do interviews like I sold my Apple stop [ __ ] you I'm 90 sure the only objective there is to influence the market that's it that's what he's doing yeah same as that that I can guy when
you're that big and you hold that much stock your behavior affects so many things he might be hedging well we don't know how much stock he had you know he sold his stock we know if he's a billionaire he he probably he could afford to influence the market huh this is interesting I I don't know man who knows but it's I no no but nobody nobody knows but it's I find the stock market to be a bizarre place because you're talking about the evaluation of a company and it's impacted by confidence it's a [ __ ] scheme it's a ridiculous scheme it's one of the weirdest methods of controlling an economy ever it's bizarre the idea that it's that's actually what we rely on yep that confidence games that like those things the stock those [ __ ] those movies of Wall Street where people are on the floor and this and that we're going sell sell bye bye like that's the underlying system that keeps food on your table and your mortgage paid roof over your head goofy Antics [ __ ] so crazy and that's that's some archaic [ __ ] that may be worked out with something like Bitcoin that like when digital currency starts taking over we have a sort of a different idea of a you know monetized value because of digital currency it could that could be something that you know eventually gets reworked as well for sure I I I mean you have to worry about the financial companies getting a hold of it and their own well do do you think that that in that sense that that's one of the reasons why transparency is a good idea because people who are who do have ulterior motives and obvious bad intentions Financial intentions and bad social consequences transparen transparency to like to what degree well trans that's a good question cuz I cuz cuz you can you were mentioning earlier that you're transparent I'm saying I'm transparent but again I don't necessarily share everything about you know I I don't know there's a level of transparency that makes sense and then at some point it gets weird right like if a financial if a if a finance guy had to if we were able to grasp the amount of money these [ __ ] guys are making by trading one in adamant thing for another in adamant thing I don't think society would be very happy about it that's a good point yeah like there it's
essentially a gambling ring like so many of these hedge funds now it's not even about investing in a you believe in it's in making a play well that's one of the reasons why the Bernie made off situation was so confusing cuz I was like oh my God like this guy he was involved in you know people that were incredibly Rich yep and he was moving their money and he was doing it in full view of the world it wasn't like he had a huge business I mean building a whole floor in manatt yeah I mean you watch them move money around and all these billionaires and millionaires were investing with him and he did it in front of everybody that's right that that exposes the entire system what about the crash yeah what about the bailout yeah what about the bailout yeah I mean that was in front of all of us it's it's all so crazy it's all so crazy and I think that like the news like the evening news like a lot of things we're dealing with Dinosaurs we're dealing with like these forgotten relics or or Not Forgotten but current relics of an age where they're not relevant anymore it's just the ideas behind them that make them aren't relevant no and they've also been compromised to a point where they're so unstable when it comes to things like the stock market when you look at derivatives and I try to Peter shiff try to explain derivatives to me and and and you know the the how people bet on things failing and how much money there is in that aspect of the economy and it's so bewildering that anybody ever let that happen it's not about it's not about what makes sense it's about what you can convince people that's the problem it's like a betting line on a fight a UFC fight it's not it's the Vegas it's not necessarily about you I I I was listening to one of your uh fight broadcasts there where you were saying you had a great record picking winners yeah but you will never say it or something like that well I never give predictions you don't want to give predictions but that I would imagine be being who you are that you could fairly accurately predict winners right over and over again pretty accurate but not 100% there's certain fight like here's a perfect example well name one that you got surprised oh I get surprised all the time Chris Weidman
Anderson Silva surprised me yeah I thought Weidman was gonna give him some troubles but I never thought he would win by knockout in the first round or the second round like that no that fight surprised any everybody yeah there's no there was no way but I I guess you don't necessarily need to be perfect in order to make a lot of money TJ Dillashaw hen and bar there's another one hen and BR one of the best fighters on the planet TJ Dillashaw dominates him for five round yeah and then head kicks him yeah I know it's crazy so yeah it's not a per it's not a science but that being said I think you could knock it out of the park a good enough percentage of the time to make a killing oh yeah man if I wanted to bet money on fights every week that's what I'm saying oh I could make some cash the line the line that they draw is based on what they can sell so it's relative to what to to the betting that's already occurring that's why the line moves right it's it's no different in the stock market if you can convince people that a stock is valuable guess what it's valuable do you think it's unethical if I bet on fights I can't affect the come if I bet on fights myself if I decided do commentary fight I don't think so really I don't think so this is breaking news right now Joe Rogan I don't I don't I mean I'm not a player if I was a player or a coach then I would think that betting on fights could be very problematic you have contact you have contact with the fighters is that insider trading is that I don't know I would do it you should have your own show on YouTube like who was that guy that got ousted he used to be the betting machine in football Jimmy the Greek Jimmy the Greek yeah but that was cuz he was racist but he wasn't even racist he was just kind of being accurate about how they used to breed slaves the way he said it right exactly just so [ __ ] exactly but he had a segment on national TV about betting mhm that's crazy like people care yes you know you know how many people would watch a show of you giving your picks on an upcoming event it's too mean it's too rude how's it rude it's rude I've been rude before pull up Kimbo Slice versus Seth petrozelli I was we were in the here's a perfect example of it we were um backstage in Atlanta I was working at
the punch line in Atlanta and while we were there it was when Elite XC was on TV and Ken Shamrock was supposed to fight Kimbo Slice But Ken Shamrock got cut backstage like while he was warming up and the doctors wouldn't let him fight so because it was going to be on TV Seth Petrelli who was on earlier on the card already been approved by athletic commission already made weight decided to fight Kimbo in the main event he had already fought that night no he was approved to fight that night it all happened that day so they rearranged the car the day of the fight they paid the other guy money and they got Kimbo to fight Seth Petrelli and so we're backstage and I found out about it literally as it was going on I was like oh my God Seth Petrelli is going to [ __ ] him up and then the fight happens and it literally lasts six seconds and Seth pelli knocks him out and I was like see I told you here it is like we could play it against Seth petracelli who but is this the fight or is this me watching the fight this is not me watching the fight pull out the video of me predicting it because I predicted and we were watching it backstage as it was happening on the screen but it was very mean cuz I was like Seth petrozelli is gonna [ __ ] him up but I like Kimbo he's a nice guy so I felt bad after I said it even though I was correct weird thing about fighting that when it's over you're on the ground and bloody is fighting Kimbo Slice this is a last minute replacement I got to think Seth Seth pret always going to [ __ ] him up if I'm wrong you'll never see this so it doesn't matter what's wrong with that so we're sitting here backstage's what's wrong with by the way I think do this watch how fast this is though oh my God you're [ __ ] right yeah oh what I say what I say is a bad [ __ ] so I I felt bad about that I mean I probably shouldn't damn how high do I look in that picture by the way that that beard bro I look that's a sexy beard but I look very intoxicated well you were like you were motivated at the time I think if with a little more composure well not only was I motivated it was in the moment yeah I know got off stage and they hadn't
fought yet I was like oh [ __ ] so I literally had just gotten off stage and boom you were in the dressing room and oh they haven't fought yet what Seth petrell is going to find them and then we made the video yeah see if with a little like with more preparation you could phrase it in a way that isn't insulting I think well my partner at at on it Aubrey is uh an active better under my advice I heard him I heard him betting on one of the fight broadcasts yeah very strong average like well into the 80% 1 point in time we were at 90% we we've gone full cards where we 100% correct wow yeah yeah he [ __ ] dude get paid son let me tell you if you're 90% you need to be spending some money eh no because I would get addicted the problem is there one of the reasons why I don't gamble on it is not that I worried it would affect my commentary CU I absolutely would not let it I've been accused of being biased before but if I am biased it's because I enjoy certain Styles it's certainly not biased because I want one person to win I just think I like when people fight effectively and intelligently I like that I like when people are exciting I like when I I I have like very specific things that I like about the sport of fighting and one of them is I I enjoy technique and someone who a a real technician a Craftsman someone who really immerses himself doesn't mean they're going to win like sometimes a a fighter was just stronger or faster just Club someone I mean there's Fighters fights have been lost where the other guy was clearly the better fighter but he still lost like a perfect example is Ernesto host fought Bob sap it's a weird example because it was in K1 they were Bob Sap's a huge guy right exactly and Ernesto hus is one of the greatest kickboxers of all time but Bob Sapp has beat him twice and doesn't make any sense it was only because Bob sap was 375 lbs of [ __ ] solid steroids and just running at them and just dony Kong and I mean if you watch the fight you see Ernesto host who's this masterful technician but he just can't deal pull up some of the video of it cuz it's three minutes we got three minutes all right probably shouldn't pull the video up then three minutes left yeah yeah we we 3 hours man it's over that's it y look it's 3 hours and 10 minutes see dear God now I know why
everyone says that at the end Flies what the hell man did we even talk about technology we did we did okay we talked a lot about technology we could definitely do this again though when are you going to be in town again I don't know right now come on son come up with a schedule I should know I could make a reason probably a l lot of fun talking to you though man really enjoy this we'll definitely do this again follow him online unbox therapy uh youtube.com/ unbox therapies channel uh really cool stuff really cool to have you here and I again we could just go on for days and days and days so we'll definitely have to do this again for sure uh thanks to our sponsor thanks to stamps.com go to stamps.com use the code word JRE and get the $110 bonus offer which includes a digital scale and up to $55 of free postage stamps.com use the code word JRE thanks also to on it.com go to O nnit use the code word Rogan and save 10% off any and all supplements there are very few tickets left for tonight tonight at the ice house um we are in the little room and Joey Diaz and D arera are in the big room it's going to be a [ __ ] passadena party [ __ ] tonight we got Sarah Tiana Brian redband Tony henchcliffe Greg [ __ ] Fitz Simmons and me as well good times and it's one of the coolest clubs on the planet Earth one of the oldest clubs in North America today started in 1960 it's a [ __ ] awesome place a lot of good vibes all right much love my friends we'll be back next week uh Crash from the float lab will be here lots of other stuff coming up I'll talk to you soon give me a big Mahwah Mahwah see you soon byebye [Music]