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want to be Alexis oen is here ladies and gentlemen cu the music Brian Redban out the Jo experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day I don't know why we have to have a music but we do I like it otherwise it doesn't we've done it without the music several times we just get [ __ ] crazy and we just go we said you know let's do the least produced version of this possible with no professionalism attached to it's just anyway which would be hard you guys you guys run a tight ship you got to go with your right name dude you got to go with yeah you got to go with that [ __ ] all these these silly people that can't say that learn how to say that well I I'll tell you the uh well I mean my father so my father was born in the states both of his parents uh had were were part of the generation that came over so my dad pronounces it ohanyan as well so but I'll tell you this I I'll tell you what I own see that first name Alexis you never call me Alex oh okay I like that you grew up as a little pudgy kid named Alexis and you learn real quick to own that name oh that's awesome CU I was I was born in in 83 and my father named me after a boxer Alexis aruo this Nicaraguan fighter I know exactly who he is I got to see him fight live serious yeah yeah I got to see him fight live a long time ago me and my friend Jimmy Lis we went down to I think it was in Lal Massachusetts we saw Alexis aruo live and we saw Mickey Ward live before he became F I should have brought my father what am I doing here oh it was awesome it was awesome in LEL it was [ __ ] great Massachusetts which is where Mickey Ro was from so when he went out there everybody went crazy yeah I got to see him when he was an up and cominging Contender live but seeing our gr that's my pop he showed me had he has an entire closet full of VHS tapes of his fights which I keep telling he needs to do something about that is digitized but now I just go on YouTube and I on a quick quick query and um he had a he had a wonderful mustache an amazing left jab and that combination well Alexis agu was awesome his straight right hand was a work of art and a Gentleman yeah a really really good guy like a real man a real man's man so that's that was my namesake he died young right didn't he he did it was a suicide if you I've
talked to nicar raguin about this and there you know he got very involved politically after his fighting days and there are a lot of people who believe there was more to that story man that never happens nobody ever kills anybody and tries to make it look like a suicide it's never happened bro it's been snoped have you ever snoped it I love my Snopes I love Snopes too Snopes end a lot of stupid [ __ ] arguments I always snoops real quick this is one of the advantages of inter I know what you mean isn't it like they're snooping for the facts no I think it's just Snopes I yeah if it was snoops it would have two o's you f you could probably SN English speaking [ __ ] if the English language wasn't so goofy and there wasn't any weird exceptions like that it would be so easy to [ __ ] on you right now but there's a lot of ones that don't make any sense it's a pretty [ __ ] up language yeah this is very bizarre and it's more bizarre when you working with you know words like ohanyan I know you know it's like it fits or you know that's one of the reasons why you got to give Schwarzenegger his props that's a bold goddamn move the guy owns Schwarz Arnold and Arnold too Arnold is [ __ ] that's the kid from Different Strokes you know I mean it's not the manliest most manly bodybuilder ever he made it though [ __ ] y dude see see Arnold uh definitely uh definitely a fighter I I know I'm not I I I didn't fulfill my father's prophecy of me being a a boxer instead I guess I'm I'm a lover not a fighter I tell myself well you figured your own path out sir thank goodness thank God for computers you don't have to be a fighter like in the physical form obviously you figured out a way to succeed you figured out some cool [ __ ] for sure I mean that's what everybody admired about Alexis aruo was the same thing that anybody admires about anybody who is involved in the creation of something cool and you're involved in the creation of the coolest [ __ ] website on the internet involved in Reddit you can't get a better Hub of information like when new things Innovation a lot of gossipy [ __ ] too but that's people that's what we do that's what we do as people we like to talk [ __ ] but other than that I mean the the the resource if anything is going down anywhere in the world at any time
you can pretty much find it at Reddit and it gets verified the vote up system like good posts rise to the top bad post fall down it's such a smart cool thing and really the model I think for or like online discourse when it comes to like Message Board type discourse I think you guys are the model you know we I mean it's it's amazing uh when Steve Steve Huffman my co-founder and I started this thing we were in a little apartment in Medford Massachusetts I lived in Medford Medford we were on 72 I feel bad for whoever lives there now can I say that no don't say it definitely not people [ __ ] no I don't want to get in trouble yeah it's on [ __ ] you know whatever what's with the questions but the uh Meda yeah and it was it was a great we just graduated from college just graduated UVA went up to Boston we raised 12 Grand from y combinator uh which would go on to invest in like Dropbox Airbnb and and Reddit um and with 12 Grand in the bank we worked our asses off for three months in that little apartment and built Reddit and it's to be a top of the website now 150 million people a month it's crazy it's crazy I love hearing [ __ ] like that czy and that's that's the American dream man that is the American dream 100% nerds with with with 12 Grand in the bank total we just we just worked with a couple laptops no connections and and and you know well what's the American dream right I mean the American dream where your parents somewhere in their past their either their parents or their parents parents were came from over from Armenia oh yeah yeah one fled the genocide so what year was this we're talking about the early 1900s yeah so 1915 was when it got started if you want to get really real so my birthday is April 24th which is the Remembrance Day of the genocide so like I'm so I'm half Armen on my father's side I'm fullon Armenian on my mother's side I'm fullon German she actually immigrated she was a fresh off the boat from deuts Land wow so it's a really interesting 20th century dude your DNA has gone through some [ __ ] yeah it's it's those yeah and uh and I feel like having I mean right there yeah certainly from The Armenian side you know they came out of survival my mom actually came for love to marry my dad very romantic um but but both of them right you know the reality was um
leaving her life she was on to be like a pharmacist in Germany but coming to the states she was just an ignorant like degre uh immigrant right in quote unquote um and so she worked jobs that she had to work just because it was paying the bills like she worked as an opair she worked in I'm so incredibly like proud of what she did to leave a life behind a comfortable great life in Germany to start fresh here um and then obviously my father's family like you know when you grow up with a bunch of Armenians you know real quick how lucky you are to have that sort of genetic Lottery of being born here instead of over there yeah I didn't I was totally ignorant to uh the the the genocide um until uh I was interviewing a fighter Manny gambiran after one of his fights and um he was dedicating his victory to the victims of the uh Armenian Genocide he was like trying to bring awareness to it and I was like Wow for him and yeah oh he's very proud Armenian so I had to look it up and find out what it was all about but that's one of those ones that you you don't hear about too much another horrific event in human history it is uh it is certainly really unspoken and I I'm trying to think I discovered System of a Down because I was listening to 98 Rock back in uh Maryland and I heard Serge talking about the genocide and I was like who is on a rock station talking about the Armenian Genocide and I'm like oh Armenian rock band isn't it crazy how one event like that can make I mean it's not that Armenians wouldn't be have like nationalistic Pride or pride of origin before that but that one event has everybody BM bed together so much more and especially because a lot of folks don't even know about the Armenian Genocide it is and I was a history major too in school so I I've thought a lot about this um I and it's partially because it is unrecognized in turkey and even here in the US on a national level but it's this it I I think it's the fact that it's still this open wound and it seems it may seem moot like I understand the people who committed this are long dead right um but it's I think it has such an effect on the psyche cuz we're all like well hold on this like they're to deny the existence that this thing happened is is so incredibly offensive because it's not doing justice to all the people we know it's crazy that we're
having this conversation because just 17 hours ago the US Senate committee passed an Armenian Genocide resolution seriously yep so it's still got to go s go to the house or did it already it says I don't know Wars I'm kind of ignorant but it says 12 Senators voted for the resolution I feel like when I when I have to pay attention to how the government works as far like senators and congressmen and representatives I I get angry so I I just I just shut it off I don't want to know who has to go to who you know why cuz your system sucks this is such a donkey ass Old King system made when people are riding [ __ ] horses and hurling bows and arrows at each other this [ __ ] system is [ __ ] see make me know who is it well it has to go through the house and the house passes the senator the senator must pass muster the [ __ ] out of here it's dumb and it is uh it has been so co-opted oh by money and and and it's it's it's frustrating it is and and I am an optimist don't get me wrong I still I think the internet I mean the reason the reason in part I wrote the book The reason I campaigned against soapa pipa was I really believe the internet can be a way for us to get the government that we deserve I completely agree it's just it's a process and there's a lot of a lot of [ __ ] to get through in well I think what the process really is is in ch changing the way people's minds operate and I think that that process without a doubt has already begun I think kids of today I'm 46 years old so anyone who's uh in their 20s I guess would I'd be talking about kids of today they're men but they're kids they are so much more advanced than I ever was when I was at that age I was a [ __ ] monkey I knew nothing I knew neighborhood couple books uh you know CNN news every now and then I knew nothing yeah it's uh it's it's amazing and it is I I visited 77 universities on the tour and it makes me makes me jealous frankly it makes me very hopeful too you're part of it these kids yeah but but look this is like these kids grew up like I I remember getting that modem I had a 336 in middle school I remember getting my first PC it was a 486sx my parents I was lucky enough to get that when I got it in middle school right my parents didn't have a ton of money and they didn't know [ __ ] about technology but they knew
enough and I got that chance and that has provided everything for me but there are kids coming up today who by and large have known this technology from jump and they've known they have they don't even know what a dial up sounds like that's insane and so they think of as being something in real time like like you were saying earlier you know we we're we're sort of developing this attitude of like oh right we can go seek out this information we can selch gossip on Snopes or we can go learn how to do we can learn string theory on KH Academy but this generation coming up they just they take it for granted because they just know oh I have a problem or I need to figure something out or I want to create something and share it like the internet uh and that's how that's how all of us got to learn the programming languages that helped us build things like Reddit but it's helping filmmakers right now it's helping artists it's helping photog it's helping comedians right like think of the wealth of knowledge that the upand cominging comic now has to learn from to look to share like it's yeah the amount of the the resource of just finding things to talk about as long as they don't menia it though can't can't do that it's horrible that's a verb now um the but the like the the amount of internet like uh internet websites internet search engines amount of uh social media networks whether it's Facebook or Twitter the the just a sheer amount of funny stories that are coming your way is a comic to today it's like if you can't write new material it's like you're just not paying attention it's not like the old days you had to wait for [ __ ] to happen you know liveing in [ __ ] Pennsylvania and just looking left and look come on I I need something to talk about like now all you have to do you go online it's like it's constant it's overflowing kind of sucks though because then the same Comics are also looking at the same news story and uh writing jokes about that that's totally going to happen that's totally going to happen without a doubt like uh I was doing something about almond milk and somebody uh let me know on the podcast that what's his face um Lewis Black has a great hunk on soy milk it's basically the same joke and uh like you find that out because the internet too but you
that the good thing is like I wouldn't have known that unless I then I would like that joke could have made it into my Arsenal and then I wouldn't have even known that Lewis Black had it and then you know would be I would be accused of plagiarism and I would feel stupid can you change almond milk to something else like I don't know it's not important it's it's a a tiny part of the bit but because the internet I know all this and and think about it this way right like the the speed with which you can learn [ __ ] this is this brings everyone up like it forces us this is and we see this in Tech all the time um just because of the nature of writing code and creating applications you know competition is this is as efficient as it gets there's new stuff coming out every day and it forces you to stay up and to be innovating and to be pushing and now I think of it as there are so many more in this instance Like Comics who are connected who are watching who who are seeing what someone is doing and they're like all right like I'm not going to take that joke but now I just got to I have to I have to push Harder Faster and on the whole I think we all benefit cuz we'll get better jokes we'll get better will benefit this the the artistic expression will benefit the real problem with plagiarism whether it's in that or blogs you seen in blogs a lot I mean people still are getting busted for it remember there rightfully so yeah absolutely but the the difference between the mindset is what's really important like the the the guy who's an actual writer the guy who or the girl who's an actual WR the girl who's an actual comic what they're trying to do is figure [ __ ] out and they're trying to find ridiculous points in things and then make funny observations about those points if you're just copying stuff then you're not exercising whatever it is that Tunes you into those ideas in the first place so that you're lost when you're done if you you get busted stealing jokes and then you have to write your own you're like holy [ __ ] like I don't even know how to do this like you're like an open micer that's why you see like the guys have' been accused of plagiarism there's like high period in their careers and then this massive drop off where you look at and you go oh my God like who
the [ __ ] is writing this like this isn't funny at all like you went from being this guy with these really funny points to this monkey with dog [ __ ] coming out of your mouth what is that from could be the ACT yeah it could it's a good act it's probably better than your jokes but it's because they never really did it in the first place they were just stealing and that that mindset they're they seem to be mutually exclusive like people who are really creative are almost never the type of person that would even think about plagiarizing so it's kind of fascinating how it's a but something like Reddit exposes that quick like this I found out about this found out about this on Twitter but the just social media just the the ability to communicate with the people just it's unprecedented and and I you have to I mean in in' 05 two of us in a little apartment there's no Twitter there's no tumbler Facebook is still in colleges it's still in like Elite colleges back then it was a different world but and to give credit words too I mean I I really I do believe we're all standing on the shoulders of giants um also not my quote but like you know the message board right that's nothing new right there we had message boards I ran a message board in college uh Forum um you know before that when did they come out like what was the first year of the message board ah well I mean really early internet you've got BBS systems um you've got I mean there like the Forum uset you've Forum like basic Forum software where someone creates an account usually with like a pseudonym right they create an account they post a link or they have a discussion this stuff this stuff is as old as the internet as the worldwide web what what Steve and I got right was we adapted it modernized it a bit because we'd let people you know at large up Vote or down vote um and and essentially I mean I hate to simplify it that much but Reddit is like an Next Generation Forum platform and then what we realized that dig and all the Dig clones didn't realize was that they were just one front page we knew if we were going to win we would have to be a platform for communities dig was a platform for a Community right the front page would only have so much stuff on it but we knew you know Steve and I knew that yeah we had a you know there were things we
were interested in right we're interested in technology we're interested in the Redskins we're interested in like just football like we might have a certain audience um but what's going to make this work is if anyone who has a particular Community or following whether you love My Little Pony and want to create a Reddit about that a subreddit which there are lots or you want to create about your favorite team or you want to create about your favorite TV show or just about science or asking questions about science ask science amazing sub all these things exist because we knew this has to be a platform just like Twitter is a platform for individuals this would be a platform for communities it's just amazing that it's been able to be pulled off the way it is the the vote up vote down system is such a brilliant system because Steve you're always going to have noise you're always going to have people that just want to make noise you're always going to have people that just want to be [ __ ] and now you can sort of at least without censoring sort of just push that to the bottom and it's not perfect I I I will argue and and this is all toedit yeah I mean there is no perfect system we constantly fight against ring voting all that stuff but um Steve built a really smart system with a really smart hotness algorithm and by the way we're open source so if you want that go take it it's it's there um and and I think it is for what it is it's one of the best on the web and I think that's why our content is so good it used to be right we started with just people linking stuff out the first link on Reddit fun fact was a submission I made to the Downing Street memo remember that it was it was showing this this leaked memo during the runup to the Iraq War the English government kind of saying like Hey we're going to drum up some you know uh support here to support America going into this war and um anyway it was my first submission and it was a link to another was that the proposed false flag event yes it well the the the notion being we could pull this thing up um the notion being that what's it called again uh Downing Street memo Dow streeto and so this was leaked out as basically an indication that the British government really wanted to help drum up support for the War I don't know how explicit it
was I don't recall if it was like an supposed to like I guess they wouldn't call it a false flag thing in the memo but we're going to do a stunt but there yeah what if they have like code words and then the big bad wolf says but this this was the first submission to Reddit and it wasn't that new at the time but I was just thinking like hey what if we if this thing actually worked like what would we want Reddit to be a place to like find and have people link to and this seemed like the perfect thing right the internet enabled some person to put this image of a leaked document online and share to the world right massive printing press and uh but what's crazy is we thought that's how it was going to always be maybe like 3 years in some user because users are [ __ ] clever um linked to a comments page like they knew when they hit submit what the link would be like the number the random number we not quite random the sequential number we would generate and so they linked to it what they effectively did was create a self-post which is now a feature in the site but basically Reddit only used to let people link out to other sites one user hacked it and learned you could just link link to itself and create this amazing comment thread so you wouldn't you know when you click on when you do an AMA right you're not creating something that links somewhere else you're creating something that just creates a Reddit comment page and what that user did by hacking the site was show that there was a tremendous value in just saying hey people have a discussion about whatever it is and today I I I believe it's a little less than half of our like content is actually linking to Reddit so it's actually it's an Ama or it's an Ask historians post or it's just people talking about [ __ ] it's not even linking to other content on the internet and we never could have seen that coming wow that's awesome and it was just the user being creative uh basically hacking our site to you know in the that that word we need to take back we need to take back make it a positive thing yeah it's you can Life Hack and you see this right you can life hack you can you can body hack you can basically find a understand a system so well that you can find an optimal way to
use it to your advantage that's it that's hacking it's not it's not the like Angelina Jil bagging on a keyboard hoodie and like doing evil it can be but it's it's a much more nocuous word yeah it's it seems to have weird it's it's got a combination of meanings it's like some people use it in a negative way but some people look use it in a positive way like dude I [ __ ] hack the system like some someone's saying I hacked the system that's that that's you know that's in a positive way but oh these hackers broke into this website and put dicks in everybody's picture you know like that's how we look at it we we also have this weird sort of connection to adolescence like adolescent pranks hacking being some sort of an adolescent prankster type Behavior which I don't think is fair either you know what it is and and that's that's an interesting point there are there's definitely the there's a there was a there's always been a spirit of like pranking in the hacker Comm like I'm talking o like OG hackers like MIT building the internet early like Steve wnc be an example um and I think what's cool is there's that childlike Wonder like cuz I think a lot of that [ __ ] usually gets beaten out of us as we get older right um especially in a lot of traditional Industries and whatnot and so I I'd like to believe that that can even like be an excuse for people to think about stuff a little differently and think about stuff a little more like let take things so less seriously um as part of that broader cultural yeah no it's cool that there's a prankster type thing rather than an evil vicious mean type thing you know like when they hack someone's and they put a smiley face on their front page instead of that's kind of fun I mean it's kind of funny you know well now we know that someone can hack into your page I mean in a way it's probably good that you know that that's possible yeah I don't encourage people to just go hack at anybody's website because it [ __ ] up that person's day but all in all overall you should be lucky that someone's doing that and that if they're doing it hopefully they're not stealing your credit card information and doing it maliciously there's a whole I mean there we can I could dig into this there there's the so there's the white so like the white hat hacker is is the
quintessential like hey I found out there's a problem with your website I'm not going to exploit it I'm just telling you so you need to fix it or hire me and fix it but usually just like and and we had we've had white hat hackers um periodically emailing us with exploits on Reddit that have done us a huge service um because they told us about this thing we could I mean you can't possibly know every no you you know yeah it's interesting man it's it's the the amount of information that's available now has got it so it's it's so the world is so wired that it's like we're we're standing in this crazy river of ideas that are just constantly flying by us and a few people are looking around poking their head up out of the water and just looking at each other going holy [ __ ] and the the internet is where it all sort of pulls together I mean that's the channel for it all and that's where it all pulls together in places like Reddit or places like Twitter all over where just you think about how much you know now how how many things you been exposed to now how many strange bits of information all the chaos that was caused by Wikileaks and Edward Snowden all this stuff where's all this coming from well it's all on the internet the internet is it just boom boom it's like these shots are being fired these holes are being exploded into the system and then you know there's a bunch of scrambling to try to put scaffolding up where the hole was and boom Another hole gets blown out of the [ __ ] society standards it is weird it is it is probably a really scary time to be an incumbent um oh yeah but it's a great time to be an upstart it's a great time to be someone who is trying to find a way to get their ideas to the world cuz there's never been a better time man yeah there's never been a better time to be an honest politician it's a good good move it would be and that's that's just it right that brings us like I I God I hope we get there because we need to I'm a big fan of the states and I think we can evolve I I really do it's just going to take a lot it's just going to take a lot of these old [ __ ] getting out of office these people that have been doing it in a sneaky dirty underhanded way since the jump you I mean there's [ __ ] people in office that were alive when Kennedy
was assassination and they were they were like in government and they're still they're still involved in I don't think it was supposed to be a career uh pretty sure pretty sure the founding fathers didn't want it to be a career G it was the exact opposite of that that's one of the reasons why they wanted to put term limits they wanted to make sure that they don't get too much of a strangle hold on how things operate cuz men just do that are creepy [ __ ] when we get power some of us they get to positions of power like that they just distort things to their advantage and then you're stuck with lobbyists and you're stuck with these Arlin Spectre type dudes and who's also involved in the single bullet theory he's one of those longterm yeah really yeah he was the guy who came up with the idea he was the that's like when people say the single bullet theory you know you're looking at it all wrong Arlin Spectre [ __ ] that guy that guy came up with it that's how goofy that [ __ ] idea was one bullet went through two people and caused all this [ __ ] damage in their body and barely like barely dented the bullet the bullet looked beautiful little pieces of bullet in their bodies nothing missing from the bullet whatever whatever this is a Magic Bullet this is a single bullet is that Arlin Spectre guy yeah it was his idea he had to come up with a reason why one bullet had done so much damage people right now that are anti- Kennedy conspiracies theorists are going nuts right now possibly even on Reddit Rogan's such a [ __ ] [ __ ] with this bullet theory but that all came from ourl Spectre that all came from that sort of old school politician those guys that had just been around and been a part of the system for just too long I wonder if it's possible to do to to I I I mean I want I want to be hopeful enough to think that there is a chance for someone to get into it for the right reasons and then be able to stay in it for the right reasons there is and not get a lot of them probably I mean [ __ ] guys guys like ARL I'm sure probably got into it for all the right reasons but I think there's certain systems that once you get into you just look around you go oh [ __ ] like it's just such a mess a Viper Nest that you're like what a when you're
a young guy it's like did you see the movie uh Wolf of Wall Street of course yeah well there's I don't know how much of it was a a hustle you know what I mean I mean whenever you have a story and the guy who it's his life it's based on the story it's probably going to make him look a little bit nicer than he was a little bit more innocent the beginning of the movie but it's that system where you see leard dicapro he starts out he's a family man he's a nice guy he drinks water he doesn't want to have anything to do with drugs and he gets co-opted by the Matthew MCC MCC hey character and then he becomes a part of this system that's [ __ ] up and so he's a victim he becomes a someone that you could sort of sympathize with you know how much of that is real yeah that's I I definitely I can only imagine uh because you got to figure I mean why someone who gets in that whole industry actually the whole Finance industry just blows my mind yeah it I I really like I really like uh making things and doing things and and I just can't even wrap my head around getting into work every day and just hustling like that well it's a crazy way to live those guys are Maniacs a guy I used to know that I I grew up with he uh became a stock broker and he was a he was a maniac he was a maniac and all of a sudden he's like bro we're [ __ ] selling stocks and [ __ ] it's great it's amazing he I saw him at a bar wearing a a suit with a tie I'm like what the [ __ ] are you doing with a suit on like he was an animal this guy and all a sudden he was a stock broker they're like maniacs a lot of them like wild crazy gambling risking Maniacs they need to fix I think you if you had a job in a system like that and I'm not equating politicians with with uh these kind of guys with uh stock Brokers but I think what a system that's equally [ __ ] the political system is equally [ __ ] as a financial system you look at the both of them you're like wait wait wait why why you doing it like that what is that a derivative is what is a [ __ ] oh no what did you guys you making things up now what did you make you have $100 billion you don't have any money there's no money here at all this is crazy that that system is equally [ __ ] to the political system like wait the wait the [ __ ] hold on a second the Supreme
Court just changed the limits they just made it so that you can just unload money on politicians citizens united uh yeah I got a nice little jump start what it's crazy it's crazy yeah so I think equal system once you incorporate yourself into it like a lot of these politicians who probably do go into it with good intentions I think you find along the way that if you try to Buck the system completely you probably get blackped there's probably going to be a lot of blowback against you by your party by competing parties you're going to you're going to be in a tough situation you against the world and that's how they survive they survive by sort of attacking each other like this and then propping up these individual candidates that differ only slightly from each other and all of them supported by the same giant hood of money that comes from corporations man this is it's crazy it's a crazy system so if you're a young guy and you're a senator from Delaware and you decide that you want I want to make some changes in this world and if you elect me I'm going to blah blah blah and and then you get in there and you're like oh [ __ ] you're making me really optimistic right now Joe and I and I just got I got off my house of cards Bender which you know amazing I think those systems are inherently corrupting that's what I'm saying yeah I just think that younger people have to it it almost has to be like transparency involved in your actions is going to reach such a Tipping Point oh yeah that there will be no room for corruption and once that happens different story yeah and it's got to beyond the way there right we all the the forces certainly seem to be on their way I mean it's crazy we still live in an age where these senators and Congress people are still doing what they're doing on their uh Twitter direct messages or uh you mean sending dick yo yeah but the but the funny thing is there's this kind of like okay at a certain point there'll be mutually assured destruction where like the president is going to have like photos of herself from like a party in high school right we're going to get to a certain point where everyone's got [ __ ] on everyone from all the stuff we did ever but that that's going to take a little while and in the meantime I mean
I I hope that the the the thing that still makes me hopeful is coming back to the sort of the final side of things um money is the corrupting influence in Washington uh one of the biggest and and right now there are a few people who can put in a lot of money and have a lot of an effect what I hope the internet can do and we've started seeing this happen is is in the same way that it's given a voice to people through social media we can start using small amounts of money and in aggregate start having a really big impact we saw we've seen these money bombs before in ' 08 and in 12 but I feel like the software is going to keep getting better and better with crowdfunding and with these models that are going to really inspire people to want to give to a candidate and know that there's actually going to be accountability to with how that's spent and who they are and and whatnot one of the big ones one of the really big ones that people think is kind of frivolous especially people who don't smoke marijuana is the legalization of it the legalization of marijuana in in Washington state and Colorado is [ __ ] gigantic those the impacts that that it's had on their economy it's been so big that there everyone's forced to step back and go wait a minute well okay all right so now we know it's like sweaty hands rubbing on their pants and a lot of [ __ ] late night meetings a lot of guys pacing back and forth a lot of people yelling John they're going to smoke pot okay they're going to [ __ ] smoke it no matter what what do we doing here let's make some money yeah we can't we can't fix the street we can't hire new teachers well and that's the and that's right if if a if if that money being used on the war against drugs were being used for more productive things and we did legalize my goodness the war against drugs such a crazy idea it's it's a crazy term it's like the war against breathing you know we figured out drugs it's probably it made people better in a million different ways the idea that you got to war against it is and it's just you're calling it drugs you're not making a distinction the war against negative lethal drugs that are addictive you're not even making any distinctions it's just a war against drugs so what you got to break in the [ __ ] store and steal all the aspirin
at gunpoint like what what what is this war you're saying yeah ridiculous it's Preposterous and I hope you know it the uh I know DC's I don't know where DC's at right now I was on the table Maryland just decriminalized a step in the right direction and I mean what happens like what what happens if we get legal weed in the district of Colombia now I know they're not technically a state because that's ridiculous it will happen it has to but like point you know I like I see the discrepancy between the federal law and the state laws but like if you're not having feds knocking down doors in the district of Colombia like you know I think maybe everyone's in agreement here and you see so many so many X law enforcements so many X a people come out in support of legalization because they realize if the goal if we have a common goal here um to actually make our streets safer and actually curb the the criminal element that comes in with this um legalization is the way to do it and make a lot of money and help help a lot of people live better lives because they don't have to be treated like criminals for a a drug like marijuana I've never seen a single person that I didn't think was just trolling say that they think that marijuana should stay illegal anyone worth having a like when I hear an cter say it I'm like this [ __ ] ising she's trolling she's too good at obvious is she's got a half a [ __ ] smile while she's doing it did you just meme it did trolls obv that's another cool thing that came out of places like Reddit is memes Reddit message boards these memes I mean there are obviously uh forchan is still uh a hub for a lot of that Meme creation I feel like I feel like at this point right yes that's where it all began isn't it wa it is I mean it is one of the or message [ __ ] That's a classic 4chan that picture yeah that's a classic 4chan picture it uh and it's it's it's just it's so interesting because now there are enough basically right 10 years ago the culture people who were spending a lot of time communicating on fors online was pretty small right and now right everyone's taking their selfies like it has reached a point where uh it's nearly as it's so so ubiquitous or so close to it they yeah these these memes these funny interesting image m whatever they are
can catch hold and literally millions of people can see it I mean it gets a little weird when you see like Rick Ashley in the Thanksgiving Day Parade a couple years ago Rick Rolling everyone that's a little that's like a little weird a little art influencing life in a strange way yeah yeah that was weird man the Rick Roll it's a strange thing when something just catches on like a virus like a real disease and spreads across I mean or or an organism almost like a thing with a lifespan we like as I mean as humans we are and and I'm not I'm not saying plagiarism here but like we are sort of intrinsically copy machines and that like early man right sees someone else hunting a little better than him and he's like oh I could use that as a weapon dude this guy this guy over here let's all make weapons right and we are really good at seeing what someone is doing and learn that's how we learn yes and and what's so wild is you know because of that hyperconnectivity because of how fast these ideas now spread right these memes like humans are sort of naturally really good at this but now we can spread this [ __ ] faster than ever before right within hours million within minutes millions of people can see an interesting photo of a cat or an interesting video or or what have you you know Alexis you can't do that on your own you didn't get there on your own yeah but I think what Obama was trying to say when he was trying to say that uh you didn't build that you didn't make that he was you know about the infrastructure that's required you know to to build your own small business was that speech that he was so criticized from there was that that that quote was was definitely taken out of context [ __ ] quote the the reality is it was he he said it very poorly like but it's essentially what we're what we're saying is we all needed someone before us to come up with all these ideas that we all piggy back shoulders of giants man and ibody look dude I mean I I I have been incredibly fortunate right I sold my company when I was 23 years old all right that is crazy crazy dude how much coke did you do don't lie I have actually never done Coke good for you thank God if you were hanging out with that guy you would have done Coke you would had too much coke and you you'd be I'd ask you that question you'd go wow
bad things man You' have weird eyebrow hairs you can't explain like when did that start growing I hate Coke oh man it's not I I am I feel like caffeine is enough of a stimulant for me um that I'm more interested in the stuff that you know calms me down yes chills me out chills me out and that's what I think would change and I think that's one of the things that that is changing uh right now in in America because of the fact that the spread of this stuff the the with the spread that's starting now first of all information wise when people found out the real truth about like the ld50 rates like you can't die from it like it's not it's not even possible and that Malarkey document or film reer Madness oh it's great ridiculous it's great to watch now but F great propaganda yeah it's um that's a that's a fascinating movie it's fun to watch today but there's a lot of people that still believe that it does something negative that it slows you down that it removes motivation I think um people have to realize like the the motivation for motivation in the first place like why why is that so inspiring to you like what is what is motivation you want someone to get off their ass and get a job and get to work well they just have to be excited about something you know the most likely they're more excited about sitting on the couch than whatever it is they're being exposed to in their life it doesn't mean that marijuana removes motivation means that if you're one of those lazy [ __ ] that doesn't think outside the box and you're stuck in a spot and you're discontent and you like to get high and sit on the couch you're probably going to be like that for the rest of your life mhm but that's okay too it is it is a it's not harming anyone exactly those are the same people that would drink cough syrup they would drink [ __ ] cough syrup until they you know their liver failed syrup drinking that syrup I mean for real that is the same they're the same people and the idea that it the all the benefits reported by people like I'm not saying you smoke a little weed but I'm saying you probably smoke a little weed or me or anyone else who does that that's that's all discounted yeah and not to mention I mean seriously on a from a
medical standpoint I mean I you can't fight like every day there's another story from another person who's using it to get through chemo or using it to get their app like when you see that many people's lives being so positively affected by a thing that's naturally occurring like really I it come on guys it's all it's a truly unbelievable Story the fact that it's still around in 2014 is really a truly unbelievable story cuz if you looked at it logically and factually and said could you imagine a culture in which information is sent instantaneously all over the globe to which the answer to virtually any question a person can come up with can be answered on your phone in a matter of seconds that you truly have the information the current information of the world at your disposal could you imagine there would be one of the most beneficial plants that grows easily contains essential amino acids it's very high in protein it can make you think about things differently it can make food taste better it make sex feel better it makes you sleep easier it removes anxiety it makes you nicer and Kinder this sounds amazing you would go yeah but it's illegal and it's a schedule one drug and the record screeches and you're like wait but hold on what it used this was used to be this was a major hemp was a major crop for the 13 colonies yeah um like it well when they figured out the cotton Jin that's when things got a little weirder because um they used to make clothes with hemp but before the 1930s they 1930s they came up with a thing called a decorticator and the decorticator was it was for the first time they could use this giant machine to break down the hemp fiber because before they use slavery and then when slavery was abolished and the cotton genin was invented all along sort of in the same time frame the the shift went to Cotton and away from from him it's really kind of fascinating this is like Wikipedia man I know a few things that I've seen in documentaries but it's a fascinating fascinating story because what what was really what shut down marijuana is the crop hemp that's what shut it down and that's the main reason why today like when I was talking about on it we can't grow our own hemp we would love to we
would love to pay a farmer to grow hemp for our protein powder that way we could monitor the soil we could make sure everything's organic we can do all the right steps but we can't do it we can't we literally can't do it in America man land of the free but it's it's totally non psychoactive that's what's so stupid like it's it doesn't that what you're getting when you're getting like a hemp bag or you're getting hemp protein powder there's zero THC in there that's not in there you cannot smoke kids you cannot smoke your hemp bag don't try it don't do it but the idea that that somehow or another can be illegal because it's related that's crazy I mean that's like a poppy plant like you could have a poppy plant you can eat a SE Bagel yeah we're bananas it's crazy and then you know what it is though here's the the real victims of ending the drug war would be all those prisons that would no longer be full of uh young black men you say this but what if your business is running prisoners right what if your business is prison guards I mean that's another thing found out about someone think of the prison uh the prison industrial complex the prison guards Lobby against drug legalizations they do it because they want to stay in office they want to keep their jobs and how many lives have to be ruined in the process it's [ __ ] crazy it's a vampire system it's a horrible vampire system and it's a system that's brought out of it's it's based on these rever reverberations or these vibrations from the past it's all like this scramble when people were [ __ ] when they came over on boats and this is just how they did things they get him in the clink throw them in the jail you [ __ ] scoundrel you were smoking marijuana or whatever the the rule that you broke is that they realize that they can do it so they do do it and they throw you in some [ __ ] cage in 2014 the fact that that's still going on and that people are actually profiting from it this these are more things that the internet has a huge [ __ ] problem with cu the internet is guys like you is Young fellas that are very smart and unconventional and seeing the system and being like you know what I don't buy it I think uh there's some [ __ ] that people I knew growing up that were adults I knew they were [ __ ] idiots and I knew
they made bad choices and now I'm looking at the the repercussions of this everywhere I'm looking at it I'm saying No this is dumb this is so this is one of the things especially talking to college students that I love bringing up which is that and I'm the first to admit it like I have no [ __ ] clue what I'm doing 99% of the time especially when I got started I still don't now and I've I've come to realize like and I've got I've got been lucky enough to meet some pretty like successful impressive people but like you dig on to the surface we're all just hacking it like we're all just expertise experience those things all help but like every one of us is a fallible human all the conventions and rules and Status Quo we know were created by other fallible humans and there's no reason not to look at that and go huh does it have to be that way or why is it that way and if the reason why is well that's the way it is well that's a Terri reason you know and and when you see the world as being that hackable so to speak like you start to realize all right well let's just let's actually question stuff and and for you know I remember I was a freshman at UVA when 911 happened for this generation of Millennials coming up we we Mo nearly all of us one of our first really Vivid memories of the world was 9911 this awful tragedy and then we get into these two Wars and then think of all the authority figures we've had in our life since that moment they've all at one point or another either misled us sort of deceived us um you got the financial crisis you've got the housing bubble all these conventions oh trust us we know what we're doing this is the thing the American dream is buying a home go to college take on that student loan debt don't worry there's a job waiting for you every single one of these conventions from from all these people in power have not held up and so I think in particular Millennial Millennials look at that very skeptically because we're like all right you know what so the conventional stuff didn't work out for anything like we have no choice but to realize you know what we're all just hacking it so let's let's really let's dive into the passion let's let's figure figure out a better way to do something not settle for it's the way it always been I think you're completely right and
I think um first of all I'm slightly annoyed by this new statement that I'm First to absorb Millennials I know it's a terrible pH I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm not buying we can Rebrand this I think we should I really do because I I think there's a divisiveness or there's a separation that comes when you start labeling people by like what era they were born in fair enough fair enough it's a it's a state of mind more than anything else yeah I think so but I think it's horeshit Generation X Generation Y shut the [ __ ] up it's just humans like this this idea of putting things in a label generalization the human race is evolving watch Father Knows Best and then watch Game of Thrones okay shit's different now we don't have to come up with names for the generations and your generation why and there was [ __ ] Jamie from the Laugh Factory tried to tell my friend um uh Todd Parker Todd Parker is a standup comic that I started out with and Jamie was like buddy you have to be gen X Guy this is what you do you go on stage and everything My Generation generation x think that's going to be your hook and I remember him trying to explain it to Jamie and I'm in the background going don't no don't [ __ ] listen to him did you hear what he told Tony to do what did he tell buddy you must always wear cowboy hat I was just thinking he would just look like Woody from Toy Story cuz he needed a hat he he shopping for hats Jamie uh the guy who owns Jamie Masada the guy who owns the laugh factor is a sweetheart of a guy he is a very nice guy I love him to death but he's crazy and he gives advice to Comedians and he was a comedian at one point in time he might have been the second or third worst comedian that's ever walk the face of the Earth but as a club owner he's like one of the best he's a sweetheart of a guy he wasn't the worst comedian he just said second or third barely speaks English and he's not funny but he's a sweetheart of a guy but his ideas are terrible and he'll like Tell Young he like pull you aside buddy listen this is your move from here on out you go on stage you wear superhero costume with Falcon you don't look like superhero that's the joke I I want to know is there a comic somewhere who actually took his advice oh yeah there's been a
bunch there's been a bunch I don't want to name any names because it's sort of like someone who got tricked by a guy who said he was in the military so they had sex with him and then it turns out he was just a liar and the girl feels bad I don't want to shame anybody so I won't say any names but yeah there were some comedian for sure there was definitely some comedians that listened and changed their their Persona you know and came up with like a plan and it never worked because once Jam's got you dancing first of all oh yeah keep now I control the dance Bud buddy you're dancing bad it's not my dance moves are good mity did it also with Carlos man yeah MIT made a well I mean I don't know I I don't know exact I mean allegedly it was Miss's idea but obviously we're not pals with that dude so we probably shouldn't tell his life story without checking in with him he probably doesn't even know at this point much yeah well I don't hate the guy just hate what he's doing um but there's been a lot of those club Owners that come up the best club Owners are like Wendy from Denver who just stands back she's you know if you're doing well you're doing well she encourages originality and her clubs have built like a real scene in Denver just because of her like if there's one person that like is important for the the the entire Denver comedy scene it's just one lady Wendy did did mity ever give you any advice that you either took or didn't you're too dirty you're too dirty CLE clearly took that advice too sick what you said was sick it wasn't funny it was sick I I have this bit about Anna Nicole Smith's husband this is the one she always hated unfortunately there's no good versions of it online I think it was an audio version let's record it now but it was a um it was all about uh him making her do ugly things before before he died like that she was earning this money that everybody's like oh she's stealing his money I'm like what are you talking about the guy made a billion dollars from scratch don't thing he knows what the [ __ ] is going on like he he was he he was onto it yeah so the joke was that he was going out in style with this big fat Kentucky Fried hooker and it just I mean it was just this horrendous old man young you know Buck some blonde bit that just was so
disgusting and mity would go it's disgusting it's not funny I'm like but why is everybody laughing there're [ __ ] idiots but you you clearly don't have to I mean this is like hey it's nice advice but like if people are still laughing and buying drinks she's going to keep having you well she loved me you know she's nice she's a sweet woman she just didn't like it wasn't her style of Comedy you know I I get it I get that and there's some things that I did that she really loved and she wanted me to keep doing those and I love those too but there's [ __ ] that I'll do that I I I and I always have because I would laugh at it and my friend who are Comics would laugh at it like I like if I know that Stan hope is in the room I'll probably ramp something up just cuz I know he's there I'll I'll you know add some extra [ __ ] up [ __ ] to it just to get him to laugh just just something totally inappropriate that I don't even mean but I'll do it just for St up if he's in the room like we do that to each other Comics do that so when when a comic is writing a bit that's like really [ __ ] up like half of it is just like to make your own jaded sense of Comedy like jolt it you know just give a little PR yeah just see oh man that's I I uh that is the bar that I like because I do a fair bit of public speaking right but um I don't have to [ __ ] tell jokes like that standup bar has to be and I'm not just blowing smoke like it's got to be the hardest like public speaking gig to have to do it isn't it isn't but to do it night after night too well that actually makes it easier Joey Diaz says it best Joey Diaz is he goes this is the easiest hardest thing you can do okay it's the easiest hardest thing you can do because if you do it right it's easy if you got it down and not in the beginning God damn it takes a long [ __ ] time to not be on shaky legs every time you go on stage but once you get good enough to where you kind of like you understand yourself better so he's not as insecure you're not as concerned about acceptance and you can kind of relax and you're more comfortable in your own skin and then you kind of understand the roots of humor better as you get older and then you become a comic so then boom you're a comic um and I think from there it's all
just about maintaining it's about continuing to do it and once you do that it's fairly easy it's like once you're doing that but it's like once the train is moving downhill it's going well but if the train stops and you got to get it uphill oh you're [ __ ] that's why guys when they take time off something weird happens to comedians when they take like three years off of comedy and then get back in because their their prospects are slim those are some dark sets that you watch you could see the bottom of a man's soul you can see some [ __ ] man because they forgot how to do comedy I mean they just [ __ ] forgot how to do comedy that happens after a couple weeks though sometimes I two weeks off and I went back on stage I was like oh [ __ ] why do I feel nervous right now your intention I mean you don't really prepare that much you don't listen to recordings I do so I listen to every I tape every single one of my listen usually it's on the way to the next gig I'll listen to the that's a good one way too what one way that I like is to sit down and listen with a notepad and write down [ __ ] that I I shouldn't do anymore or write down [ __ ] that's the front end is clunky and it works over here and I'll just keep doing that there's guys I'm glad you do do that the guys who don't do that are really silly like it's it's an important point I have to do it I have to WR all down and have to write it out on the note cards and stuff like that that's a good move too as far as memory that's the best way writing things out physically in long hand or I I write it out on my Galaxy I got this [ __ ] Galaxy where is it how dare I left it out there somewhere like the Galaxy Note 3 is this big ass well I've got ogre hands so it's perfect I have a Note 3 too what I do um but it is outside yeah um but they are they're they have that little note styl sty yeah I write all my notes long hand damn old school so instead of um using it like like instead of having a notepad but I always still have a notepad anyway because I still for whatever reason I haven't let go of the nipple but the um the notes like written notes on that are almost just as good yeah I mean really it's very sensitive I'm a stylist skeptic are you really I am I've never I talk to him real quick I'll grip the phone I want to
see if you [ __ ] with it if you like it I mean I had like I've just never I have the not 3 I just have never like I pulled it out and I was like n i notic you have the pebble have you tried the the gears or whatever the watches from Sam don't even get me started the thing is uh and here's the thing I had the first Pebble they're why commentator company I I actually was I sitting in the room when we interviewed them I remember their first prototype and I was so blown away cuz I was like here's some friendly Canadians I made a cool watch all right talk to my phone I think it was a Blackberry back then and uh and then they launched that campaign and I was like this is am maze balls right $10 million Kickstarter I pre-ordered mine and I got my watch and I was really impressed but I was a little like I liked it I didn't love it I'd be wearing another watches back and forth once I got this one though seriously like game over every day really the the the Fatal flaw of that Samsung watch aside from it doesn't play with iOS um the Fatal flaw is the battery life it's got a beautiful full color screen it lasts for maybe a day and like I got enough [ __ ] to charge every night like I don't want to also have to charge my watch every single night or it should have a built-in a charging mat or something where you just take it off and throw it on a mat you know the new one the the gear to that just is supposedly better it looks interesting I you know obviously like I said I'm buddies with the pebble guys um so take this with a grain of salt but in all objectivity I think it's anaz the software the the OS you know Android obviously know they know what the [ __ ] they're doing right um the question is going to be the hardware um if that I mean that watch is all just Photoshop right now right um if they can make a watch that has a decent battery life that looks that good okay all right I'm perking up but until I actually see something with a real battery on it forget what about Google Glass I they just announced that Google Glass is going to be available for one day only to anybody that of course CNN uses the photo of the most hipster hipster in yeah look at his look at that mustach sweat this look at this holy [ __ ] yeah those are all my those are joke notes
damn see I love this though it's pretty badass man but this is really encouraging I've I there there are um I I really I don't know I want to think like I feel like I'm still just as hungry as I was when I got started and I'm really motivated and inspired like cuz I feel like if you want to stay on the top of your game this is the stuff you have to do because as soon as you start getting soft yeah and start getting cocky or complacent um man write on that all right all right let's see write something cool I'll save it and I'll put it up as a Twitter all right okay it's fascinating because uh it it doesn't it doesn't lack like there's not anything where I'm doing it where I'm like this isn't completely picking up what I'm what I'm writing it picks it up exactly as long as the stylus is touching the screen it's perfect and so for like writing notes I and they're small files so you can you know you can have [ __ ] thousands of these things that backs up automatically I get an email when it backs up hm huh I've literally never taken the sty you can suck it you can suck it Apple until you come up with one of those you can suck it but I I I remember jobs used to be very anti- stylist [ __ ] jobs you can suck it too I'll dig you up and then you can suck it that's rude that was rude there we go saved I didn't mean it if I me it the the new information that's coming out about the the two new iPhones that come out this year you know what I heard I heard um they're going to make you gay no no no I heard that look at that oh this is for the upot for the uh for the up votes up votes okay I can and I can send this right now just throw it up as an Instagram the that Pebble works with the iPhone and what information is it send does it send text or just kind of basic stuff you get notifications um you know you can mess with your uh iTunes if you want Advance etc etc um and there's a whole f i I think the Long play and and it seems like a smart one is the App Store model so Pebble has their App Store and there are tons of different apps so I can check in on fors Square for my watch don't have to be that guy who takes out his phone and checking on for square all right this is one thing that's whack about Android when you use
the Instagram app it gives you this weird little W no one's going to be able to see this but it gives you a weird little window oh they won't let you uh get your way that's whack as [ __ ] man well see that was a great demo but see that's that's one way that the um the iPhone has it over this well no no no that the the square ratio size is just an Instagram thing you have to use a different program like uh what's it called it you should be able to just add black space yeah uh so you should be able to shrink it a tip on the iPhone is you turn it sideways so it's the the wrong uh you know like when you have a picture the wrong way and then you take a screenshot of that so it keeps the black bars on the side and then you yeah then you add you got to do it Gangster that a pro tip Pro tip by Bri if you just crop it so it just say for if you can get four the up votes and then the Reddit alien that'll suffice okay let's see if we can do that yeah I'm looking out for you no also oh man we're going to have to do another one I failed you just no you haven't you no no I feel like I'm letting everyone down here just do a smaller one we'll do one more but yeah Google Glass for $1,500 so Google Glass um so I'm 1,500 bucks are you going to throw into the trash a week later yeah you're going to be like the [ __ ] is wrong with me it's not there yet I I I am very very skeptical I don't think it'll I don't think it'll hit mainstream adoption uh I think even if they go I mean they've got designers now designing glasses they got NBA players wearing them tap it so it doesn't have that thing so I think so I am full disclosure I'm an investor in a Google Glass Company how dare you um but but here's the reason why um they and they actually just had a bunch of press uh in the globe um the they are they're building software specifically for Industries so like they're working with doctors at Beth Israel who can use them to help check in folks get their records with because they need both their handsfree right they're working with energy companies so that people out in the field can have real- time data on what's going on at this random oil pump like if they got to you know check settings or updates like basically they're targeting specific Industries where people need both their handsfree
and so it's not the sort of obnoxious like walking around on the street uh ordering a latte from your face it's like this is a very specific task where I need both my handsfree and this is helpful and so I think I think that's where it'll succeed kind of like how Segways are just for M cops I think this will be next level useful oh God yes that's right can't forget the tourist going to go on haven't got on one yet you haven't got one it'll change your life great they're really dope uh he's just being fous that was like one of the things that they were saying about the uh the product before it came out that was going to change your life change cities change change Life as We Know It streets around it you silly [ __ ] that was the most ridiculous thing ever you're just standing and moving how's that Chang in life did you hear about the new uh electon our age of uh cow tipping that's going on in San Francisco and stuff like that people are flipping those little baby electric small cars it's called Smart Cars Smart Smart car tipping or something yeah that's rude as [ __ ] wow imagine if you went outside and you you're a girl and you weigh 100 lb someone flipped your fck that's a dick move it is a dick move I also think I so I grew up in the suburbs I did not see a lot of cows I guess from time to time but like can you actually tip a cow uh no yes yes you can there huge no no no we've done it before you never yeah yes we did from Columbus Ohio me my friends did it twice [ __ ] you've done it right was it like a calf was it like one of those V calves tooo so weak what happens is that when the cows uh when the cows are in the fields they they pretty much lock their legs and sleep standing up a lot and so you just go next to them and push them and they seriously just heavy no they they they just tip right over cow tipping cow tipping's huge I thought this was stuff that Suburban kids no like or that like Urban lore because none of us ever hung out with cows no if you ever want to go cow tipping I'll take it I mean it's compl cow I don't think they would really like that but no they don't like it at all I wouldn't like it did you really go cow tipping Brian yeah twice can you find one YouTube video I believe it yeah me and two of my friends okay and I want it to be one of
those remember those night vision like the Paris Hilton videos I want it to be one of those night vision videos of the cow over easy all right do you have a um an Instagram I do it's it's my name just Alexis Ohanian or ohanyan okay that's another thing that's annoying about these things is that they insist on trying to change what you wrote like they're like my creative the ethnic uh last name they're um I'm not going to take it personally it's just that their their autocorrect is like really aggressive these guys are awake and Goofy they're awake yeah well then good luck they're going to kill you I see noow you got to look at these videos before you put them online bro seriously find something real you can do that off screen right yeah motherucker might have made some [ __ ] he might thought he was cow tipping he's on mushrooms tripping his balls off dude we tipped cows like we never left the house man what are you talking about we were in the field you know remember I was there oh yeah man I was tipping cows yeah I bet if we Snopes tipping cows like let Snopes Snopes cow tipping I feel kind of I should have brought my laptop also side note uh and I've I've enjoyed your podcast died I love how I love the real time with the laptops uh I wish I wish every show basically had someone in real time just calling out [ __ ] here we go ready all right let's get this out of the way cow tipping at least as popular imagined does not exist drunk men do not on any regular basis sneak into cow pastures and put a hard shoulder to a cow taking a standing snooze thus tipping the poor animal over while in the history of the world there have surely been a few unlucky cows shoved to their side by boozed up morons we feel confident in saying that this happens at a rate roughly equivalent to the Chicago Cubs winning the World Series that's not true okay this is um got snoped cows cows like sit down and like on their legs and just sit there and you can go right up to him and tip them right over this is uh from Modern farmer.com well I'm convinced an article on cow tipping I've subscribed to Modern Farmer for a decade now and I they have never led me astray YouTube the largest Clearing House of human stupidity the
world has ever known where you can watch hours of kids taking the cinnamon challenge teens jumping off roof to rooftops on the trampolines and the explosive results of fireworks set off indoors fails to deliver one single actual cow tipping video all right well we did it as a kid the one exception is a a Russian dash cam video which shows a semi- TR full of cattle overturning that's really good you need to watch it and cows shaking themselves off and walking away cow's not giving a [ __ ] yeah this is a spectacular Dash can so this uh this article is calling [ __ ] on you Brian when I was younger we would go to these farms in in Plains Plain City Ohio and they would have tons of cows and we would break into the cows smoke weed and there would be cows that would break into the cows no break into the the the fence and there would cows that would sit there like on their like perched up like on their like legs like just sitting there sleeping we would come over and just push them right over I don't know if that's the cow tipping that you heard everybody doing like people saying that the cows tip over but that's what we used to do cuz that's what we thought you were supposed to do I don't understand what you just said the cows are standing up right cuz they stand up when they sleep right no not all the time there there's cows that like do like Neath here I'll show you okay I thought cows always stood up horses always stand up right uh I have no idea yeah I'm going to my guts telling me horses are the ones yeah horses I think always stand up right yeah and if they're down they're hurt we have the Google yeah um but I'm I'm really skep with this cow tipping sorry yeah the internet disagrees with you oh look at that that's a like cow rolling brown cow rolling so the cow would be like that and you would just push it yeah but there would be tons of cows and it would be night at time we be drunk and that's what we used to do but well technically that seems to be cow tipping technically that's cow tipping they're just lying down cows so you're going to send the email to Snopes saying well actually you are wrong well I have a feeling the problem with calling [ __ ] if you didn't grow up in that environment you might truly believe that it is [ __ ] but then if a guy like
Brian actually grew up there and actually pushed over some cows can we take this to your fan base see they would sit like this and then you just like s go over there and just push them over and they would roll over and wake up and freak out and it would be scary and you would run away now now cow tipping what I think they're saying is not true is actually tipping over a cow that's like completely standing up maybe well maybe that's what people have in their head but what it really is is what you're talking about Ring that's when we did it we just did it cuz we heard people did it and then we were like let's do it there's tons of cows here that's such a such a Brian Red Band move I heard of the people were doing it and I'm like well this still alive [ __ ] it [ __ ] it so then cow tipping is real I guess if I would say well yeah cow rolling I'm going to call it cow rolling rolling well then cow tipping as in a cow standing up and you pushing it over that doesn't exist but that's probably not what cow tipping ever was unless they do sleep standing up do cows sleep standing up okay we get we need to there's tons of pictures of cows doing exactly how yeah but do they also sleep standing up I should have say let me just say how much I appreciate you guys getting in the bottom of this we need to we should worst case how far are we from some cows uh not that far we can get to one in an hour okay does a cow sleep standing common misconception that cows don't lie down why cows May doze off for a few minutes at a time while standing up they typically lie down to sleep or simply to rest okay I'm calling [ __ ] on the people calling [ __ ] I think Brian's right I think Brian is right he went cow tipping and that's how you really cow tip because what everybody says is the cows are sleeping and you go up and push them well obviously if that's not true if they only take a little nap standing up and usually they sleep ly down then then their whole premise sucks because they don't understand what cow tipping is yeah cow tipping starts from the knees like Jiu-Jitsu class like if you take wrestling class you start standing up for the most part but at a room full of 50 dudes trying to double leg each other that [ __ ] gets really dangerous so jiu-jitsu classes all start from the
knees so real cow tipping like the idea of it doesn't exist because that's like wrestling style everybody starts from their feet but jiujitsu style when you're already on the ground that's real this is great now whenever I drive past a bunch of cows I'll be thinking about Jiu-Jitsu that's what I do that's the vision it's my gift you should um you should totally sell SNES to go [ __ ] themselves the craziest thing is that modern farmer incorporator whatever it is how scary it was I just remembered it was no because I'd be scared I would go that man we we did I remember twice but we us only remers Twice first time scared the [ __ ] out of you and then you're like listen I I can do better I did it wrong yeah and the reason was because one of the we used to hang out this bridge where we would drink underage and it was just like everyone would go to this bridge in the middle of nowhere and there was all these uh farms around it and that's why we'd go there because there was no police there was no one could even know you were there so you get a bonfires and all this [ __ ] like that so then after you got wasted everyone kind of just played around in all the fields and one of the fields was cows and it was Pitch Black because it was in the middle of the country so it was just stars and you see Shadows of cows and so you would like sneak up going up to these cows you didn't have cell phones for lights or anything like that so it was literally just lighters and [ __ ] and You' just go up and just push it real fast and it would go and like you just run away and it was the scariest [ __ ] ever wow and you'd be stoned all St did you ever find mushrooms on those Cow Patties yeah but back then you just didn't think about that like I didn't get into mushrooms till I was in college well Duncan went to school in Asheville North Carolina and when I went up there I I understand Duncan so much more after visiting Asheville cuz it's just a hippie Mecca and they were getting so and there's apparently the mushroom Flora or whatever it is the spores are so healthy up there there because it rains a lot and there's so many of them that they had to start giving the cows some sort of an anti-fungal diet to kill the mushrooms because so many kids harves meanwhile it probably makes the kids
sick because a few mushrooms probably grow on it some poor poison siloc cybin I mean you want to talk about missing the [ __ ] point right poisoning cow [ __ ] so that the most beautiful thing that God ever created can't grow there you [ __ ] dummies but he said that they would constantly go there and just pluck them off and just eat them they were everywhere man and just trip balls the whole town is so psychedelic like partially because of that the whole town is like it's a Asheville North Carolina is a Trippy [ __ ] place I feel like I need to visit now you got to visit it's awesome it's really cool everybody's walking around like they have a main area where like bars and restaurants are and people just walking around like everybody's walking around it's like a small town that exists in a giant world but they're modern so it's it's a I [ __ ] up I shouldn't have told you guys about it now people going to go Asheville but I kind of understand Duncan way more now after going to this town it's like oh I see like you you were spawned in one of the most awesome environments on earth like this place is [ __ ] sweet what what did they call it when they went out on that expedition I wonder they call CPP no do you want to go C shroom harvesting yeah some kind of thing let's go get shrooms man that shit's so dangerous though because I remember even as a kid just going up and eating berries cuz I was like oh look berries and I would just start kicking berries [ __ ] wow you know and then like you find out later bad dude you were one of those kids 100 years ago you would have never survived there's no way you would have been dead before you were yeah but you [ __ ] and what's that honeysuckle [ __ ] like I used to eat a lot of uh plant cuz there was nothing to do so was that purple stuff where you pull it out and just suck on it there was nothing to do yeah so we just eat grass yeah I would eat a few things you know what I found out that tastes good actually is dandelions like dandelion greens huh you make salads out of dandelion greens My grandmother used to make them and I I went over the house once and she had this dandelion salad I was like what is that and I was like dandelions and they were like it's really good for you it's edible tooo my
my uncle tell me it was good for me I think is what convinced me but then I found out that it's like a common vegetable that a lot of people eat D make tea am I crazy make tea out of it I believe you can yeah but it's it's actually good like as a salad it's a good tasting green and pretty [ __ ] good for you too what's not to like I don't know how we got on to Dand business I don't know how we got on to the Dand covered a lot of uh green on this yeah a lot of plants Good Very ecofriendly makes the world go around my friend and you know what else makes the world go around people know what the [ __ ] they're talking about that's why this cow tipping thing it's really pissing me off cuz I believe I think cow tipping is some real [ __ ] I think this is something Smart car tipping hus Smart car tipping has hit Columbus Ohio wow that's so stupid it's so rude it's totally rude it's easy to do I bet though yeah I bet like three or four guys could probably push one of those things over pretty easy how much they weigh can't be more than like 1,500 lb right I still I still Flinch whenever I watch the uh the Youtube videos of the crash tests and those things cuz they are like more resilient than you'd expect but but I would not want to be in one at a top speed I would want to be in anything as a in a top speed um there's a guy who used to fight in the UFC Matt GCE and he got rear ended someone was going like 60 miles an hour and his car was parked and uh and he he didn't even get hit by anything just the impact of the car he had to have brain surgery and need to remove a plate on the top of his head oh for the the SW and then put and then connect it back on it ended his UFC career you know the guy would been had been in like all these crazy fights like really action-packed Wars and a car accident took him out and he seen in a parked car yeah [ __ ] boom you see that thing hit oh my god wow yeah it does actually stay and actually some W incredible looks pretty good actually look at that yeah you're still dead uh not maybe maybe you [ __ ] maybe I'll be fine bro walk you walk away and I'll jerk off on the car man I saw I saw a bad Mini Cooper crash the other
day it freaked me out because they're small they're small I mean no matter what they're small just the uh that thing that happened on the highway it's like everybody's worst nightmare the FedEx truck crashed into a school bus filled with high school kids oh yeah horrible Northern California yesterday was it Northern California North mid California somewhere um but it was on the five which is kind of a sketchy freeway and apparently it's just a giant Collision nine people dead like one of those horrible fire situations I am I am firmly in the self-driving car Camp um I am I am ready I well or any I mean there's there's a company coming up right now there there are a few people working on this um but I'm just ready for robots I mean look 90 that's a new meme bro I'm ready for robots I'm ready for the robots until they enslave us but 95% of our flights are robot I mean the mass obviously they're fewer things to hit in the sky but like we trust robots with a lot and and when it comes to the self-driving cars I've gotten a rideing one for a minute um and we're getting there but like there's so many senseless deaths so much senseless [ __ ] that happens because of human error behind the wheel of you know a [ __ ] thing that weighs a lot and that's totally true but will you long for Freedom one of the things that I've been thinking about when we was talking about you're saying like oh I wish I was I'm jealous these kids that are born today I don't buy it because I I'm very I think that I'm very very fortunate to have been born in a time where the internet didn't exist to grow to be a young man without it and then experience it once I've kind of when I understand myself and the world a little bit better and got to see two different worlds get to see the world pre- internet and got to see the world post internet the people that are growing up just post internet like there's there's a certain there's a certain something we're all going to miss we're all going to miss just getting on a motorcycle ccle and driving on the highway cuz eventually that's going to be illegal it's going to be illegal to be in a fast car it's going to be illegal to do anything that propels you on your own I mean but if you look at like what's going on with technology if you look at like the idea
of self-driving cars at a certain point in time what's the justification for letting someone Drive their own car if their ratio of crashes is even 10% higher I mean as long as okay here's the thing hum humans are infinitely resourceful like I think I imagine it looking like cruise control a while where like the self-driving you'll still be sitting there you'll be chilling but like it's in cruise control and then at any point you can just hit the brake or start driving [ __ ] would just start doing that weaving in out of traffic and you'd be right back to the 101 again it'd be the same [ __ ] animal over and over again I mean you could well come on bro it would there would be bits of that but it's still not as bad as like if if it's 1% of the people doing it which is I think is still be pretty high but like then you still have 99% of them being efficient robot cars I think without this sounding too you know into the future the the hope is though humans are resourceful even if you had it mandated where every car was was just it only knew how to self-drive someone would hack it someone would figure out a way to get a wheel on there someone like I sense a class War I sense oh well that's that's a whole another story but it's coming the highway flooded with the self-driving cars and other people like standing up while they're driving their Continental convertibl screaming at the top of their lungs the robot [ __ ] the robots people taking lawnmowers on of the highway [ __ ] the robots tractors yeah while with while there's a robot the whole the whole thing is bizarre it's gonna happen I mean the the technology that's invaded our lives so far or become a part of our lives so far it's not stopping anytime soon and and I will say this I am I I think so yeah I got to I mean I knew a little bit of the pre- internet world and I'm still jealous but I will have you know I'll have my own transition right this is all a process right the the the generation coming up will take the internet for granted they'll have that but like um there is inevitably going to be something else that displaces them and blows their minds maybe it's like the GAA baby situation um I think we're already at a point now where we can better understand uh human DNA it's the point where it's like all right
it's not unreasonable to imagine a world where like hey if you don't want this genetic disorder like we can make sure your kid doesn't have that most people would probably be like yeah man you don't want to be the first guy to say yeah to that no but you can I mean this is all pretty reasonable here um and you imagine okay well let's say that happens then it's like all right well we've gotten rid of like okay Parkinson's whatever like everyone most people are pretty happy about that um but then it's like well if you can do that do you want your kid to have blue eyes like we can do that too it's it's just real easy you want a blue eye bit and then you very quickly start seeing the the gaus scenario start playing out and um and these are going to be really interesting and and and and serious ethical questions we'll be asking ourselves in terms of like I mean I generally I'm on the side where i' I'd be very happy if a lot of genetic disorders were if technology was able to remove those things from happening um but at what point does it start crossing the line of us tampering too much and deciding you know I don't think there's a line I think that's what we're here for I really do I I think the idea of us slowing down Innovation for some reason like CU we're crossing a line that we invented ourselves it's ridiculous I think there's a pattern and I think if you look at that pattern the pattern is constant exponential growth of technology and Innovation and it's a thing that human beings are thirsty for we're freaking out about the Galaxy S5 came out today woo woo you know I mean I was at Radio Shack yesterday getting some headphones this [ __ ] people that work there there's still Radio Shacks there's Radio Shack I don't know if Radio Shacks is sp I'm Sor what if a man wants to make his own ham radio order the parts online how are they open tutorial they had customers but the bottom line is I was there because I needed to get a head headphone for my uh my cell phone and uh I go U I go when is that cuz I knew it was out like sometime this week I go when is that Galaxy S5 out is it out today tomorrow and this guy first thing out of his mouth I'm going to get it before you do really yeah like ooh burn wow like
that's the thing like everybody wants to have it first giv up to 1100 stores oh Radio Shack I got my first job as a Comp USA uh I was not sad about seeing them close though I was I was a 13 13 14year old pudgy kid who was demoing video games and well it was mostly like computer hardware in the middle of a Comp USA um for like every 30 minutes I'd have to get on the headset microphone with the big TV behind me Demo like mad lens's like language learning software and I'd have the same routine for like 15 minutes every 30 minutes and like literally no one would be watching and here I am this like teenager going through puberty and I've got people people would walk up to me and be like no one's listening kid just stop no one's listening and it's like well I don't blame you for hating me but it was great because it got all of my public speaking fears out of the way uh because I spent two years being ignored uh every every 30 minutes D that seems like a really good way actually it was great I was getting paid for it the company I technically worked for was called CA s d EA but they were one of the casualties of the tech boom that seems like a really good idea to like if you wanted to alleviate your fear put yourself in one of the most uncomfortable situations and get numb to it dude yes Absol and people ask me oh well you know cuz tech there are some there are some very good public speakers in Tech but the you know the common stereotype is that they're not and so a lot of people ask like oh how' you get you know good at this and I say cuz I did it a ton I my first job was getting paid to just do it while going through puberty [ __ ] fascin so if you want to get good at it just do it 10,000 hours right just just get up get awkward get in front of people and embarrass yourself that's fascinating that job probably play really played a pivotal role in your life dude real talk I have the card I still have the business card from Carlos who's the guy who hired me at Sida um because he was the first guy gave me a shot yeah I wonder if Carlos from Sida if you're watching that's incredible you created this monster yeah that's that's an important thing man sometimes things will happen to you when
you're young when you know you're you think it's just a [ __ ] job but it really is some weird life lesson dude the two I always tell people [ __ ] getting an MBA I got a job doing public speaking as a teenager being embarrassed routinely and then my next job is in the service industry and I waited tables and cooked at Pizza Hut and and like seriously that will teach you the so much about entrepreneurship right cuz at the end of the day you the front lines for I mean your pay is coming from that tip and it's a matter of of balancing you know satisfying the customer customer is not always right but almost always right and uh and just and and dealing with it and solving problems with other humans and if you can make if you can bridge that gap of like empathy man I I use that every single day as an entrepreneur every single day absolutely and and also I think the shitty jobs that you have when you're growing up inspire you to not want to have shitty jobs yes I work with my friend true my pal Jimmy Lawless I worked with him for like two weeks one summer he he was a carpenter and I was like uh he was uh he graduated a year ahead of me and he had like always had his eyes on doing carpentry I was just looking for like a labor gig for the for the summer but within two two weeks I don't even think I lasted two weeks it was [ __ ] brutal we were building a Nights of Columbus wheelchair ramp so Nights of Columbus Hall so the entire day every day was spent carrying bags of cement and pressure treated lumber is this huge wheelchair ramp so just bag after bag of cement just carrying these [ __ ] bags boom carrying these logs boom that was the whole day and by the end of the day you were dead there was you couldn't do anything see and I wouldn't I wouldn't last I wouldn't last three hours I lasted like two weeks but I I used to think about it forever I would think about that gig and I'd be like that's what it's like when you're doing something that you don't want be doing it's unbelievably difficult that's the life and that would like motivate me to get things done if I never had that gig I probably wouldn't know how hard a job can suck yeah I really wouldn't know that's the truth man that's what that should be I don't know there there's a like but that is that is Top Flight
advice for any especially cuz look I know those of us especially getting into Tech it's a hot industry right now right there's more money than ever going into it making a lot of people Rich there are a lot of kids coming out of college who want to be the next Zuck or the next whoever they want to be the next billionaire calm Zuck Zuck you want to be the next Zuck RS Z calm Zuck cuz you know him that's how you guys when you we we I've met him once or twice but we're not we're not friends I mean I'm not saying that we're not like there's no I live in New York I'm not in the I'm not in the Silicon Valley World um I dabble but I just I just visit right I hear you that's probably the best way to be cuz then you would start talking like a uh one of those West Coast techies yes and so enunciating so that is that's the problem I think for a lot I think I I'm just getting a sense and I'm generalizing here but I think a lot of the kids right now who are trying to get into that um maybe never had that job maybe never had that bit of perspective that I think has helped me a ton tremend I think it's obviously helped lots of people over many many centuries to just understand get get a bit of sense I mean even I I mean I know I live in a bubble now I as much as I wish I didn't I know I to some extent live in a bubble but I still try to keep that perspective as best I can which is hard but um it's the fact and look what you're talking about there at skilled labor like speaking of things like with the robots skilled labor is something that still like when robots can do that they will enslave us yeah so it's a those jobs or what I'm trying to say is are going to be really they're fundamental already but they're only going to continue to be important because humans have to do them and they are shitty hard work but we don't have enough people I know Mike Row has a really good camp pain actually for getting more young people interested in the trades because there is a huge demand for welders for Carpenters for for all these people cuz we don't have a generation coming up now that knows how to do this stuff I mean I can barely put together Ikea furniture myself and I'm lucky cuz I'm good with like a laptop but um it's a real need and it's hard [ __ ] work well not only that I mean
doing carpentry like building a house is really kind of fun I mean building a house is very rewarding if you're a guy that is develop like grew up my dad my stepdad Was An Architect and so I grew up around a lot of work developers and a lot of construction guys I got to see the pride that they take when they've completed a job and built a building that they designed they all work together on this it's it's a cool thing it's a cool thing to see and watch and you know the fact that that's sort of like a dwindling part of you know what kids are looking to do in tomorrow's age it's kind of sad it's a problem it is a problem but it's kind of sad I mean there's always going to be people that appreciate it though there's always going to be someone Builds an awesome log house that's in demand you know cabin porn I think that's actually a website don't say it out loud unless you're Affiliated no but like I and I hope actually I don't know I'm trying to I can't remember what Mike Rose organization is called but it's it it's trying to push uh for that and I don't get me wrong I am the guy who's also telling people like learn how to code if you want the superpower for this Century it's learning how to code that takes a lot of time Jamie and I were talking about that yesterday too much work sorry well I don't got am of time uh guess I guess you're not going to be uh Mark Zuckerberg John yeah I'm not I'm not going to be a Zuck I'm not coding it's not happening you got to also like if someone else did what I did it would be a harrowing experience they wouldn't enjoy it you know and if I did what they did it's a Different Strokes for different folks my friend yeah yes indeed oh yeah when you look at the future when you see what's happened just in the short amount of time that reddit's been around you see what happens in you know the time the your first compter computer when you were on were you on AOL what you get it was a little late uh it was an ISP called oh you had a regular ISP 336 so I was a little late in the game oh really late that was my first I had a 144 14 144 when I remember 56k blew my [ __ ] mind can't be real crazy and then there was like dual line 56k so you
could get like 2 56 Cas together and share bandwidth Insanity Insanity um stuff you can download F when you look at that and you look at the future do you think the future is going to be in some sort of a like uh an implant or some smaller and smaller device that lets you interface with the web I I hope it's not too invasive I mean there's already they right there already people living that kind of cyborg lifestyle now we've seen the transhuman community like it's you know the the the basic level is just Quantified Self and like having a thing that counts your steps but like or Google Glass but you know they're are next level fitbits all those like but they're Next Level I mean there really is a transhuman community of people who have you know cybernetic eyes who have um you know do they really have cybernetic eyes there's a filmmaker a Canadian filmmaker actually who's got he lost an eye in a shooting accident replaced it um and you know as a filmmaker it actually at least he argues helped him with his craft wow but there are you know people who have lost limbs I one of the things that actually really intrigued me about the world is that you know you have people who have lost limbs for instance or born without them and replacement limb technology basically hasn't changed uh at all like it's it's the same Civil War Revolutionary War replacement up until very very recently it basically just like here's a stick um and there's been so much Innovation now in the last couple of decades to help with limb replacement right where you can actually move digits on fingers based on impulses from your armpit right um You obviously there's the Blade Runner um and and to see the improvements on uh on on on feet where you can actually run faster on these artificial limbs than on the real ones like it's there are people who are living through this right now because of how were because of whether they were born this way or some injury that happened um but you're also seeing people who are deciding to enhance themselves um through this technology this bionic eye thing is freaking me the [ __ ] out this is uh uh apparently I don't think they have a completely bionic eye
but they have chips that they've installed in eyes yeah he's I you had the filmmakers yeah I can't remember the name uh they figured out a way so I don't think it's a totally fake eye I think what unless it's a totally different story is that live science yeah what does it say robot Madness human becomes ibor Rob Spence a oneeyed filmmaker holds up a prosthetic eye in the camera he hopes to fit he can fit inside and I don't know how that old that article is but I yeah this is oh from 2009 never mind but um but he's been doing a lot of work in this area and meeting a bunch of you know fellow cyborgs all over the world talking about this and like there's a transhuman subreddit if you go to r/ transhuman there's an entire community of people hundreds of thousands who are talking about uh all of this here's the um article about him that's really recent from March 21st and it says uh color blind says colure in the English way of pronouncing this is why we had that Revolution color blind artist becomes world's iorg an artist is born literally colorblind is able to hear different colors through an iborg antenna that he has now had implanted into the back of his head whoa just for colors just for colors he's just color blind he's not even blind 31-year-old near Harbison this guy really wants to see colors from cam how will he know if he's seeing them if he doesn't never seen him before how we know what the [ __ ] that is maybe he thinks it's colors and you're like can I borrow your eyes [ __ ] you don't see color [ __ ] shitty ass eyes back it's like people who were trying to convince you that the first droids were were good dude it's just like an iPhone okay let me let me try to make a text message why is it why does it vibrate when I touch [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here it work until you touched it Blackberry with the [ __ ] push button screen we click click click click do you remember that I I'm I had a Blackberry for a minute in like 2005 2006 but I that was well they were not bad at the time they great but there was a Blackberry attempt at an iPhone like device oh no do you remember that no oh it was death yeah black touch or something like that something like that I think that's exactly what it was oh poor black dog [ __ ] to soon guys too
soon remember when picture messaging had that number and you had to go to a website and then type in the number just to see like a very small photo of tiny ass little thing yeah so this guy's um I mean he's crazy as [ __ ] because he can see and so just to get colors okay no wait there's there's but this is the artist color blind artist there's another guy there's a there's a there's it's just a filmmaker who just lost an eye oh see all this is happening all all this is to say I think we are we're approaching a point where these Technologies basically the internet uh have a much more seamless interaction with us but uh we still got a little while still got still got a little bit yeah um but whatever en enjoy this moment because when it hits it's going to be so [ __ ] weird when when when the singularity does take place which I personally think it's going to be some sort of an artificial creation whether whether it's uh artificial intelligence or a network that can think for itself a sork yeah one of those things is going to happen and it's going to be a [ __ ] man it's going to be a it's going to be a complete flipping of the board table yeah no it's I what I like about KW and the whole Singularity push is they they are optimistic uh futurists there are definitely a lot of futurists who are just going to they're real downers um but the Kur one is is a pretty uh pretty positive one and dude who wouldn't I mean the the crazy thing is right if we have enough processing power all right if okay if life is just perception right a little thing that goes again not a scientist um but it's things that fire that make us feel like we're perceiving this world or that sandwich or that beer or whatever like if you have enough processing power to reproduce the human brain uh how can we actually tell the difference I mean if at the end of the day it's doing all the same things right that's that we're just perceiving a a world uh it starts to question like Consciousness and humanity and all kinds of really big awesome things absolutely what is humanity I is it just the standards that we've accepted because this is what we're accustomed to and this is our culture and so we just we don't want to change things or in the face of some overwhelming intelligent life that we've
created ourselves that literally becomes Gods around us we're going to have some weird decisions to make as to what should we keep [ __ ] these guys are way better than us they come out of and they could slave us once I mean it this is this is getting real now I don't want to worry you guys too much about Skynet don't don't I mean don't worry about it scare the [ __ ] out of us no it's these are I mean I don't have answers to this stuff um I've got a front row seat and it's been fascinating um that's one of the things um socinator was the the VC firm the seat stage VC firm that first invested in me and Steve like nine years ago and and I work as a sort of adviser and Ambassador for them these days but like the companies that come through there like I mean yeah me and Steve got through with Reddit but like if we had applied today we would have just been laughed at you mean app the the if we had applied today with what we did nine years ago we would have been laughed out of the room because the the applications the quality the richness how much they've created and how far they've come is so much further along and so we are you know this you know companies like Airbnb and Dropbox for instance also went through ycombinator um multi-billion dollar companies that started the same way we did just a couple of Founders and pizza and working and um and we're seeing companies now that are doing like there's a self-driving car company went through the last batch there there are a couple of Engineers who who have outfitted their Audi with a self-driving thing it looks like a the thing on top of the police car looks like one of those things and it's just all the sensors and um they can do highway driving in this Audi you can actually like sit in this thing while it drives and it's a self-driving car that three Engineers have been hacking on for the last 6 months like it's just it's it you can just drop your jaw and be like holy [ __ ] like this is this is a wild future that is being created right before our eyes by you know people just like me and things like the Google Glass which I think is just a step I mean along the way it's a gap the Gap has to be bridged I mean it's not going to be bridged in one instant application that's an injection of nanop particles into your
body that allows to you to interface your you know your retina and your visual cortex with the worldwide web is distributed through government Wi-Fi I mean that's probably 100 years from now or whatever it is 10 years from now who knows how things get crazy probably tomorrow probably next week but the the Google Glass is the bridge I mean it has to be there's got to be a Google Glass and there's got to be a Google contact lens and then there's got to be something else and it's it's going to happen just like we went from the brick phone you know they were in the rap videos and everybody was balling they had that big ass brick phone yeah [ __ ] I'm talking to you and you ain't nowhere near me Saved by the Bell yeah Zach Morris phone yeah or the ones that were in the suitcase that was another cool in with a court it was a c phone in a suitcase hello I'm walking down the street on the phone that's how important I am you know and people would get real real angry and up when they would see those they didn't like it people get upset I could see that they didn't like it look at his [ __ ] [ __ ] with his [ __ ] phone coming out of a suitcase you should be home or why don't you go get a job get a [ __ ] job you homo walking around with your phone but now it's Chang it's so small I mean they're sliding into pockets and you open them up and they [ __ ] show you the world and I think no one who had one of those stupid brick phones ever saw that coming no no definitely not and that's a bridge that's been gapped in my lifetime through my memory yeah and I'm I'm 100% aware of when it happened I had a really I had a cell phone in 1989 had a cell phone in my car wait like a car phone yeah I had a car phone wait would it uh how would that work later it was stuck into the into the car it was installed in the car itself buttons right there well it was it was a girl that I was dating her um I wound up buying the car from her and her parents bought her a car but she got a standard like a stick shift she hated she hated driving a standard and so uh I was dating her at the time so I wound up taking the car and then eventually paying her for it but it was like she installed this car phone W would you make would you make would you make a habit of taking calls
from it no no no you can't it was stupid stupid expensive and it was like right after it all happened like we started breaking up so it was like she couldn't even drive the car so I I was driving the car then I was sending her money for it it was the whole thing was a disaster okay so the lesson learned is never buy a car with a car phone yeah well no at the time it was ridiculous thing to have but it was pretty crazy I don't remember why she wanted to get it why we W up getting a phone no one needed it at the time there was only like a few people that I even knew that I'd ever seen one at the time there was a guy named Jackie Flynn do you know who Jackie Flynn is Jackie Flynn's a comic he's been in a bunch of the Fairly Brothers movies very funny guy he was the first guy that I ever saw that had a car phone I was like this is the craziest [ __ ] thing ever this guy can just call people anytime he wants it's stupid expensive and it wouldn't work everywhere it would like you would drive down the street wasn't like now like it's odd to get shitty service then it was fairly standard like most of the time you got [ __ ] service all right and if you're driving uh you're constantly going in and out of services you'd pull over to the side of the road and just wait or you keep driving until you got good enough service then immediately pull over yeah that was a big one start making a call man yeah especially if it's an important call you can't go over the you can't to this day you can't go over Laurel Canyon if you got something to say I see can't trust for sure with everybody's phone there's going to be a bump on the road still see I'm still still learning about this whole La thing the 405 don't [ __ ] around the 405 when you come over that Hill when you go into the valley if you're coming from Santa Monica and you're going over that Hill prepare for death there's no cell phone coverage when you go over that hump I don't know why they can't fix that you know it's their stupid 21st century not only that they're building a 19 Lane Highway up there I mean the highway is [ __ ] enormous it's the biggest highway you've ever seen in your life I don't know how many lanes it is it's insane they're so big I I grew up in Boston and the first time I came to California I went to um uh belflower I
took a ride down to belflower which is uh um down uh down the 405 to the 91 but I couldn't believe how big the highway was I couldn't believe it I was driving I was like this is insane the amount of concrete cuz all those old Boston highways were all like four lanes two up two back that's it these things were giant like multiple Lanes five six seven Lanes on each side see you guys know what you're doing here with the car thing there just too many people and that's why the self-driving cars will change everything I'm telling you is there going to ever be there is purportedly I'm I mean I'm a New York guy now so like I love my public transportation do you guys is that it's non-existent it's not happening not isn't there yeah bu I've done it depends where you want to go like I live in Burbank and so there's like a right in North Hollywood there's a a station you can take it pretty much drop your car off and go right to the Staple Center so if there was an event at the Staple Center you just go in and out but other than that the problem is they don't have it good like they don't have it in Santa Monica they don't have it like the beach towns and it's it's just not as cool like you have to it's not good the system also like the city is so spread out like California is so spread out and people are not really into the idea of being in a car with a bunch of other peoplebody so self-important out here and so non-integrated it's one of the things that I one of the things I was thinking of when uh uh I was starting to uh raise my kids I was thinking maybe my kids would probably do better if they lived somewhere like New York where they kind of had to interface with people all the time on a regular basis a bunch of different strangers all the time whereas like California where everybody's like we go from one box into another box and occasionally we see people that step out of their boxes and then they go in their boxes and we all go our separate way whereas in New York everybody's sort of like meshing bumping in Boston too yeah l in Boston would you ever move back east no too it's too cold wow too ridiculous wow you're just wrong kind of cold that wet cold Colorado dry cold I like that wet cold is ridiculous see I I I was born and raised on the East Coast
man I don't know if I could ever I could ever give it up oh that's I I lived in San Francisco for 2 minutes if it fell into the ocean you'd still You'd Stay Alive i' stay oh well you'd figure out find a way yeah what I'm saying yeah all right but I I I uh I just never I don't know and there's so much obviously there's so much in Tech going on in San Francisco um and actually LA's Tech scene not too shabby not too sh well Snapchat's the one everyone talks about right now that's all dickpics fueled by vaginas and and is La as well I hate Snapchat what do you think about Snapchat I just I tried using it for a minute but just just don't does it get to a point that just like every kind of Technology do you get to a certain age that you start not getting it oh that's maybe that's what that's actually definitely what it is that's what it is cuz on the College Store every every kid Snapchatting all the things every girl I know Snapchatting yeah people like it whatever I don't get it it's fine people look for Fun [ __ ] to do on their phone you know and if something comes along it gives you a time limit on a picture woo there's my [ __ ] W you know you [ __ ] you took a screenshot I let me know yeah but I close to home Jo is that well it doesn't have to first of all you don't people are so stupid all you have to do is take a picture of the [ __ ] screen with camera that's really it's so dumb it's like it's not you don't really need to snapshot it there's no nothing goes away anymore I mean you can't send it to someone and hope it goes away first rule assume if it is digital it is everywhere and then the second rule is assume if there's a photo of you online somewhere someone has photoshopped a dick in your mouth and now even more with this new heart bleed exploit that's going on that the government made I mean a hacker made oh that's good that's what I was going to ask you I forgot what what percentage of people on Reddit are government disinformation agents that are designed to interrupt conversations and turn the tide ah on climate control let's say if you go to redit Reddit like what the climate control arguments environment are actually one of the one of the subs I don't remember cuz every subreddit is its own form its own Community with its
own moderators one of them actually banned climate deniers like they basically said we're not going to and then you know what typically happens is this is like any WordPress blog deciding hey we're no longer going to post stories about blah so if people really want it they go and create a new subred and they're like [ __ ] you guys we're creating real politics or really real politics or whatever it is so it's a it's a it's a robust enough system that like new things rise but like so they'll B they'll ban climate deniers from one Forum but the climate deniers can open up their own Forum as well basically like creating a Reddit is really like creating a WordPress blog but you're part of a much larger Network and so every subreddit has its own moderation team like Snoop for instance is a moderator of R trees that's ridiculous Snoop moderates yeah he's he's he's active uh quite active it is dope he uh it's about as dope as it gets right it's pretty it's pretty spectacular but like f nizzle my nzz people people can create uh the these sort of forms in these communities and run them as they see fit and if people don't like it they create another one dude that's amazing like but on the whole we work really really really hard to mitigate um sort of ring voting and and cheating to try to uh Goose up stories are goose down don't so I mean I am sure you know as soon as Reddit became as you know 200 whatever million people as soon as it became as large as it was or at some point it tipped over and people realized it is in our best interest to be here now there are always there are the social media douchebags who you know are up voting all their garbage marketing content um but I'm sure I I'd be naive to say that there weren't States trying to help encourage and some content and discourage others but we like I said we work really hard nothing there's no perfect system um but I'm sure people are trying but the vast majority of people are just regular people yeah I I agree with you I think um there's always going to be someone who tries to do that but you're dealing with the numbers of humans are so great it would be really difficult for someone to subvert that system as like a clandestine group trying to intercept ideas and throw disinformation into them there's
just so many really smart people out there that can see through [ __ ] and that will post you know like contradicting information and and show what's wrong with this and then spend a lot of time to make you look stupid yes you know those guys are good at it man there's some [ __ ] awesome discussions on on whether it's on Reddit or I have a message board that's been around since 1998 you're an OG man see you know exactly in this form as a like a V bulletin it's been around since 2001 right you know um and it's not the best system though it's a good system it's easy to go back and read you know but it's not the best system as far as like getting the best stuff to rise to the top it's like the Reddit system of vote ups and vote Downs that's like it seems to be like a really good way of eradicating shitty ideas or at least non you know non-unanimous opinions or opinions that unanimously voted against do uh do you know guys know check out r Joe Rogan I wonder I imagine there's an active Joe Rogan s oh yeah there's Joe Rogan experiences which I I always roll on and then there's uh here's Joe roogan experience which is pretty pretty good there's uh I think 21,000 people that that do it oh snap and so subscribers you know those are like Twitter followers right so subscribers are about maybe a tenth of the actual people looking cuz only about a 10 will be subscribed so there's probably about 200,000 uh so almost a quarter million now how do you keep someone from like say if someone was uh on Reddit and they were posting something about an ex-girlfriend or being rude about information or photos how do you stop that stuff from happening well I mean it depends it depends on the situation right like Reddit as a platform uh like Twitter um doesn't actually actually no Twitter does host sorry so reddit reddit does not host content so we I guess we host text but we don't host images or video um so oftentimes those things will be on YouTube or imager and that's you know we're kind of like a traffic sign or like a map to it um but we can't do anything about the actual content um and in the event of you know content that's posed the generally accepted rule is if it is legal then we will let it stand
and that has been you know it every like I said every subreddit gets moderated so most the vast majority of them are moderated such that like garbage content like that like on your form you wouldn't want a bunch of garbage content floating up like that that wasn't adding any value and so you have the opportunity to you know as a moderator ban it um but as a general platform uh the thinking is if it is legal we're okay with it um even if you know in some instances it is distasteful the vast like the vast majority of the content is just harmless or good it's also I feel like with a lot of the distasteful stuff that people getting really upset about I think that it's one of those things that the human race is just going to have to go through it's it's like a a phase or a stage in this integration with information that we're going through there's still anonymity and the anonymity is something that people cherish they cherish their quote unquote privacy and their rights to privacy and they have all these ideas about it but that's that's going to be like saying you don't want to see people anymore it's really what it's going to be like I reserve their right to not see people okay well if you go to the woods and go deep deep deep deep deep in the woods where there's no people you cannot see people however if you want to be in cities you're going to have to see people [ __ ] and that's sort of what's going to happen when it comes to people being [ __ ] online yeah it's it's not going to be as simple as you're hiding behind duck tuck 69 you know that's your name and you're Distributing all sorts of nasty evil [ __ ] and then what did you think about here's a good example that one guy that he he was on Reddit and he was like apparently was very rude and put a lot of nasty [ __ ] on they found out who he was MH and he got fired from his job and it turned out like this is a guy who's got a family and he had to support them and now he's like been publicly shamed what what was your feeling on that um well which part like you know what the the price you pay for uh Freedom or for the freedom to post stuff is to take have to take responsibility for it as a content creator mhm and uh you know it's like at the end of the day you know you create the soap box so like we created a kind of soap box or a printing press or a
hammer right like any kind of tool and so at the end of the day we're not responsible for what like ultimately someone does with a hammer or a printing press the vast majority of which is good sometimes cannot be and you know he he essentially paid the price for that um and it's it's frustrating because on the whole the vast majority of people who pick up that hammer are you like any random Twitter user or any random any random person like just being reasonable normal people and some of them aren't and you know it's uh it's it's a matter of saying you know what we we want to have this be that open platform we there's no fundamentally there's no way to stop or police every single thing that gets done in real time um we make our best effort and when on occasion there are things that are illegal well we do what we need to do but um well apparently this guy was a real douchebag online just is a real [ __ ] and rude and so people sort of Justified that he could be taken down because of that but in his defense and it's a sketchy defense um what I would say is that if you if the precedent been set and the precedent is anonymity and there's some people that get a charge out of using that anonymity to poke at people and be rude and nasty and they get some weird sort of sick charge out of it okay yes they definitely are causing discomfort yes they are definitely probably quote unquote cyber harassing but that precedent of anonymity is very strange because once we've established sort of what we think is going to be the the standard reaction to these things people are going to get upset they're going to ban screen names what they're not going to do is find out who you are and then go to your employer and expose all your [ __ ] and once that does happen it's like whoa wait a minute wait a minute wait I thought we were playing a game like he he might have gotten out of hand but he probably thought at least part of it was him playing this game that was afforded to him by anonymity and probably what we understand the laws to be mhm I think uh the the real so so one of the things that has is generally accepted is this idea of um not the challenge is so this is this is pseudonymity that he had a pseudonym he he did not or or any one of us who goes online uses pseudonym
still has some kind of a Persona online and they probably use that account elsewhere or they they do or maybe they don't um but there's some Acceptance in this new world that like all of one can find out almost anything about sort of publicly available stuff about us with enough searching with enough sleuthing with enough phone calls with enough tenacity right every investigative journalist has been doing this forever but like there is this challenge that like there is no there is no easy answer for this because ultimately there is going to be right that's going to show up as a website it's going to show up as Blah Blah's real identity.com and some really determined person is going to create that thing that's going to out whatever it is and there aren't very clear laws around this just because it hasn't really it I mean there's no precedent for it and uh and so for the time being it becomes you know try as much as possible to discourage it this idea of like quote unquote doxing um but there's no they call it doxing uh I actually don't know the atmology of it but like to find the documents around I I presume I don't actually know yeah um and that's the kind of phrase for it but uh but it's a matter of figuring that out and I'm not I I I think we are still as a society figuring that out um because it but we like trolls in a way like people like funny trolls like I I I'd like some trolls on my message board I've got some people on my message board that are just hilarious there are and it's so tough to draw that distinction cuz I know what you're talking about it's a Hu it's a kind of a game they're playing and the kind of a game is they're trying to piss people off and they're they're trying to get people to argue with them and sometimes they'll argue both sides you know they're just they're they're having fun yeah and they might do it and some people take it real deep just like I was saying that if Stan Hope was in the room and I was on stage talking [ __ ] I might say something extra [ __ ] up just to make him laugh I think they do that with each other as well and I'm not saying that it's all innocent but I am saying if you do look at it all honestly and objectively you've got to leave room for the entertainment value of people [ __ ] with people on the internet because there's something to it
yeah and there is look and there is a there's a there's a precedent for this right in meat space like hecklers for instance right like there is meat space as opposed to cyberspace like like there's a precedent for this and and I think there is and and and one thing I should stress is that just having a real identity does not stop people from being [ __ ] on the internet Facebook is a perfect example right you could have your photo your full name and trust me we've all seen those screenshots maybe we've even seen them on our friends post but like people say some awful offensive horrible stuff on Facebook with their name next to it like they say some unbelievably dumb [ __ ] too so so having having a real ID will not stop people from being obnoxious or stupid or you know whatever adjective well I don't think it'll stop them but what it will do is open them up for the consequences of such behavior that they may have been unaware of and that's what the action that the internet provides to the average douche wad from 20 years ago never experienced you're not going to experience if you if you're just one of those guys that has some [ __ ] racist thing that you spout out in your neighborhood and nobody calls you on it you know maybe because you're big or maybe because you're important maybe it's because it's the neighborhood but if you put that [ __ ] on your Facebook page and someone takes a photo of it and then puts it on Reddit boom shalock lock boom it's coming at you son [ __ ] thousands of people you never met calling you a [ __ ] saying they know where you live saying they're going to find you and smack the [ __ ] out of you saying they're going to [ __ ] in your mouth and hold it that's really specific get well people fcking get specific um but then of course they get in trouble for violence and threats because that becomes non Anonymous as well that's why you should make a real value on Karma point so then people wouldn't be dicks and they could actually get something you know how could you have a real value exchange it for US Dollars I I don't know make it exchange it for Bitcoins or or angels and Dem what do you think about Bitcoin you feel like Bitcoin is like a well no what do you feel I'm I'm actually an investor in a couple of Bitcoin starts know so I'm pretty you're
one of them I'm pretty bullish I'm not like I'm not like this is going to I'm not at the like 10 level where this is like end of governments end of States like we are living in like but I am I am I think I'm most interested in the fact that these like basically transferring units of value has been really hard and needlessly expensive for too long because Banks make a lot like think I taking out I I think Bank of America charges me $25 to do an overnight wire and it's like come on guys it's ones and zeros you don't need there's not a bunch of guys in the factory floor being like we got to get this wire to Denmark tomorrow like it's absurd and and so there the so much the financial system has these like a lot of Revenue tied into moving ones and zeros cryptocurrency whether it's Bitcoin or whether it's Dogecoin or whether it's whatever coin umin going to be really is a of course there is how's the Kardashian coin wasn't there a Kim Kardashian or a Kanye I don't know to talk about on this podcast all right oh Kim Pride of the Armenian people well listen you can't deny the ass I that is that is undeniable the whole thing's a mess but hey what are you going to do yeah it's part of what makes us fun I think part of what makes people fun is our Folly I think we were all beautiful and perfect and Dolly llama esque come on man a bunch of people wearing orange everywhere and no one's getting their dick sucked it would be ridiculous it would be boring not sound like fun at all exactly there' be no freakness and people like that wrong or right they provide that extra that extra stupidity to life that makes the flavor it's just like a a hint of Basil in the stew that just makes the whole thing you can get by without the basil but but just adds something to it yeah the ridiculous [ __ ] dance that we a lot of notes are involved in this ridiculous Dance all of it together is beautiful though wow Symphony Of Life Symphony Of Life Bittersweet as it may be but yes bullish on uh cryptocurrencies I think it's it's going to be it's going to be real interesting do you know uh Andreas Antonopoulos I feel like I should know who that you should he is the Jesus of Bitcoin oh he will be on the podcast again on the 22nd and he said he's been
preparing for you Brian are you skeptic Brian threw some surprise Cur balls at him I did and he got no not really you were slight I mean Brian's skeptical about Bitcoin more than the weird thing is is that I don't like how your IP address is public any time you make it they say it's not it is though apparently um I don't know but according to them they say there's ways that it's not immediately after let's let's find out right now and immediately after he gave me some Bitcoins some other person just gave me some Bitcoins I'm like all right so somebody's now stalking me because I got some Bitcoins look but they're giving you oh but where did this person just immediately they're just giving you money is this guy just tracking every number and don't be a [ __ ] guys's trying to give you some money and then with the the the tracking of the IP address I feel like that there's just some weird there's something going on that I don't know about and I don't like it like the IP address things freaks me out all right here it it says doing so might leak the fact that you are using Bitcoin fog but other details um okay so there's ways around it Bitcoin fog f is a way around it apparently yeah sure there's a way around it got to use fog yeah for the highest level anonymity you need tour you will need tour tour is an open source open source open source open source open source anonymization Network for short overview tour the Tour Browser Bundle so now the only people that know what you're doing is this company that's anony addresses that no no tour's legit tour's legit you say so but when the [ __ ] tour train comes crashing off the [ __ ] train and into the woods where are you going to be I'll tell you we're going to be going to be selling books here is without their permission by Alexis H what's the name of oh thank you yeah there's no there's no title on the cover just the symbols Man without their permission the um but real talk is this the name of the book without their permission oh yeah the uh the real talk though you know there is you going to be real right now oh yeah you keeping it real this technology tour is amazze balls uh it is the thing when you hear about Chinese dissidents who are looking at T and Square massacre photos right
even though there's the great firewall it's cuz of tour whoa really and and this is I mean it's been it's been like it is it it really is one of those pure forms of so it's open source software right so you can take a look at the source anytime for you know not only improving it but also just sort of promoting that transparency um but it's the thing that lets us actually get through and of the states that want to try their hardest I mean China spent a lot of money and a lot of time and a lot of smart people trying to keep the internet down but thanks to tour and resourceful humans you know they lose that's pretty [ __ ] badass I love hearing [ __ ] like that that's such an interesting thing when something comes along that just is built by people smarter than the oppressor bu and not a business it's it's an open source project it's like a bunch of people got their leg I think software is best explained as well maybe not best but I like explaining it as like Legos and so a bunch of people through the internet with like pseudonyms who maybe never even met each other in real life brought together their digital Lego kits to build something cool that no one had built before that now lets anyone like I said open uh openly surf the Internet in spite of like some of the most powerful and repressive states in the world what did you think when that um older Japanese gentleman who they credited with creating Bitcoin but apparently maybe didn't did not and they really hounded this [ __ ] guy and waited outside his house and knocked on his door and this is it seemed it seemed like some rather excessive journalism to say the least well not just excessive but incorrect harassment well they but then they have they not I know they responded by saying we're sticking to the story I don't know if they've since backed off course why not stick to the story it's just some poor little man that you could [ __ ] harass even if he did cor encrypt it or whatever uh figure it out code it if he did create Bitcoin or it was one of the people who created bitcoin you'd have no right to Hound him like that and he made it very clear he didn't want yeah attention he doesn't want anything and you you're standing outside of his house ringing his
doorbell sticking cameras in his face [ __ ] you man you can't do that just there's proper channels you send a letter or an email would you like to be interviewed if not leave him the [ __ ] alone yeah what the what did the guy do that's so awful the guy came up with some sort of an algorithm to make an alternative currency so you think that you're okay to stick a [ __ ] camera in his face and broadcast His Image without his permission to the whole [ __ ] world and now that not sure whether or not they're correct or not like that's awkward God damn it's awkward it seems like that guy should be getting paid what was his name Satoshi well Satoshi his I don't remember what his actual name was that was a uh pseudonym yeah this [ __ ] it's scary [ __ ] man so you can mask the the thing that's good but the the thing that freaked me out though was how in private sort of I guess somebody gave me some Bitcoins just to show me how to do it and then later that night I just got but like and then so did Jam free money I know but but that's like that freaks me out it's like why are people just sending me money now that don't even know who I am based on my IP address they have a vested interest in you joining like it's the kind of system that gets more valuable as more people join it and do business on it and I mean just like you know dollars right I mean dollars are a store that's valued all over most parts of the world because people are cool doing business in it uh so a similar idea so like because it's still at the four uh everyone who's into this is pretty bullish on it and they want as many other people they can get on I mean what's crazy well all you have to do is have people involved that want it to work leg will work yeah it's just going to take time and it's it's been the the challenge for Bitcoin is now is this going to be something people are going to be buying stuff in online so like Overstock made headlines um they partnered with coinbase which is one of those companies I've act by accepting Bitcoin and like you know processing non-trivial amounts of money people buying furniture in Bitcoin online uh more Tiger Direct doing are you guys are you guys taking Bitcoin donations no we don't take donations no there's no only
you two well they don't want people to know my IP address I don't uh I don't take any donations is it safe to put your Bitcoin IP address out to accept Bitcoins meaning like I was thinking about doing it but then I was like wait so then I have people are like no you don't want to put your number out publicly not your encrypted uh this is well there there is one You definitely do not want to share publicly right um but you can generate so if you use coinbase use something else you can generate a key that's free to distribute that people will use to give you currency yeah see it's very confusing for like that cuz I I think I almost put out my bad key out to everybody see dead so then people can just take your Bitcoin they take the value that's stored yeah like that mount gaw [ __ ] I mean that is one of the most hilarious stories of all time the fact that it's all magic the Gathering online exchange and then from there it becomes one of the biggest Bitcoin exchanges on the Internet it's totally not coded correctly and people are just sticking knife holes into the bottom of the bag it's stealing blood to the point where hundreds of millions of dollars in Bitcoin is missing yeah kind of a cluster yeah who stole all that money do you know uh you know what I'm not allowed to tell you guys no i d guys there's plenty there's there's already plenty of Internet speculation well um it's weird because it seems like you should be able to track them it seems like you should be able to know where they are it seems like that's just another step that's missing from this equation that would make money all the more I mean it would really make it all the more tangible if you could track it if you know where it was I mean you have uh I actually don't know the specifics of the mount gox Heist um but generally speaking any one of those transactions is a part of the public reg or public record like it's that much I mean you don't know a lot about but you know or they didn't pay attention what was going on no I don't I don't actually know the specifics of it I I I think the general consensus online was it was some kind of an inside job as part of
uh inside job that [ __ ] I don't know but he looks like he might be the inside jobby type Shifty looking [ __ ] where's my Bitcoins yeah the uh but but here's the thing after all of those you know there have been a number of quote unquote crashes um and and Bitcoin continues to persevere it continues to expand I mean it's it and and ultimately it may not be Bitcoin it may be another cryptocurrency and I mean Dogecoin is an amazing Community they sponsored a NASCAR at Talladega really um they they got the Olympic or they got the Jamaican bob sled team to the Olympics at sohi true story really yeah they did a big fundrais around crowd tilt raised like 30 grand didn't they have a movie disne Disney to the [ __ ] Olympics how about Disney Jesus Disney mm come on yeah you they got boy that was like a big thing for a while like everybody was like making fun of the Jamaican bobsled team how hilarious it was then it just lost its novelty till Dogecoin back until Dogecoin interesting so you're more bullish on Dogecoin than Bitcoin you know I'm I'm no I'm I'm excited about cryptocurrency as a whole I think Bitcoin certainly come the farthest um in terms of mainstream like there's there random Subways in Pennsylvania taking doge coins for your $5 foot long really but yeah but but doge is this satire that people are actually taking seriously like it's it's like it's very clearly a joke that everyone's in on but in that Spirit lots of people are like yeah look it's taking the piss out of cryptocurrency and like that's kind of funny and it's mascot is a shenu and yeah why not uh and it's it's bizarrely gotten momentum in part on the heels of this um tipping system so like forever in a day people have pitched micro tips um like this idea like flatter was one there's another one called tip jooy where it was like if you're a blogger you're a podcaster one of your users can come on and be like that was cool here's 5 cents and and that was really the idea saw a lot of pitches for this none of them took off for a variety of reasons what Dogecoin has been able to do and it exists on Reddit it exists on Twitter is developers have created these tip bots so that if you say something cool on Reddit you just type in a comment with
this particular syntax and it'll tell me oh look Joe Rogan just tip me 5,000 dogecoins now that's actually not a lot of USD but it feels like hey it's 5,000 things what is this let me go collect it and in like weirdly enough it has gotten a lot of momentum and so there's a there's there are Twitter Bots where people are routinely tipping each other in Doge that's a nice sentiment I like the idea behind it and but it's all and it's all this this farce of like to the Moon which is the the ultimate ambition of Dogecoin people it it was originally a Bitcoin thing that has really been embraced by the Dogecoin Community um and I met God I met people all over the country we were at University of Central Florida and some students came up on stage with a giant Dogecoin it wasn't a check but like equivalent of what it looked like one to present to me um because they really wanted me on board with uh Dogecoin I guess that makes me a Sheba she now wow but uh a dogo oh there you go see oh oh wow when the Dogecoin Community finds out about this Joe big deal huge deal he's half bulldog though he's a mess poor little guy a bull bull sheep what would you just I call him nice dog he's a sweetie he very friendly you guys don't have a photo he's got arthritis of my dog no I put pictures of my dogs up online you're using Instagram all wrong man I got I got a photo of my cat like every 10 good move well I put your picture up you're drawing that's not going to get you oh that that'll get you a few up votes maybe two something I don't care whatever it works whatever it gets um when you look at the the potential that places like Reddit these information sort of uh distribution networks have does it kind of freak you out that you're a part of that like you're you're a part of one of the biggest ones like as far as it waks me out a little bit just because I still think like I I still think of it as a project my buddy and I just graduated from college like we were eating pizza how many employees you guys have now reddits up to 40 I'm on the board now so I don't so you're outside chilling collecting fat checks it's not quite driving around grabbing your balls everywhere it is like you were a fly on
my wall Joe I know how you think I can tell guys like you you got a certain look about you when them ball grabbing smiling dudes yeah just driving on the street that's it's like you're in my head man um does it does it feel weird to be a part of it do you feel like an obligation um in any way I mean I think the biggest obligation I felt was during uh was it two years ago the so these soapa pppa bills these two awful bills were going to break the internet what what got me at the time I was working on another startup called Hit monk a travel search website and and then the soapa pipet thing happened and all my friends were like explain to people who don't know what soip is please um the stop online piracy Act and the protect IP Act and the first is a house bill the second was a Senate bill um uh the entertainment industry basically spent almost $100 million lobbying for these two bills to curb piracy that was the intent and that's what they said except the lobbyists who wrote these bills were the like it was the bills were embarrassing in terms of how broad and overreach it was like a sledgehammer for what they said was a scalpel and it would have really [ __ ] up the internet it would have made Reddit impossible for me and Steve to start it would have made all user generated content uh particularly uh difficult to to have like it would have really really screwed things up and I got involved because everyone in DC who knew better than me about politics said these two bills were inevitable and and I was like well that's going to really screw things up so I I borrowed a tie from my dad and I started going and lobbying and like meeting with senators and representatives and telling them look I'm an entrepreneur I lived this amazing entrepreneurial life thanks to the open internet and if you pass either of these bills my story never would happened and and so many others just like it never would have and you're really screwing up one of the most viable Technologies we have and long story short we won and and I say we and I mean hundreds of thousands if not millions of people who called in like melted the phone lines um the we like 3,000 websites went dark on January 18th um protesting this and it was it was amazing I'd never been a part of something like that that was so
successful those bills became toxic for anyone all the all these Senators Representatives just ran away from them almost overnight wow and uh and we won now we haven't totally won uh cuz there's still lots of things that are hurting internet but um that's that's where I feel responsibility I feel responsible responsible because I know how much this has benefited me and I get to see like I said I'm on the front lines as an investor these days I get to see the kids who are doing even cooler things who going to do even bigger and better things and I don't want to lose that I don't want to miss out on so much Innovation because we [ __ ] it up because it's it's partly in like it's partly that I feel indebted but it's partly because I just want better stuff I want better music and I want better I want better politics I want better technology and the internet is a gateway for that do you think the internet is safe do you think it's passed through that no no definitely not uh what could be done I mean how how how do you stop this tide all right so first and foremost um so net neutrality took a huge blow and and let me say this like um I'm fond of saying the world isn't flat uh sorry Tom Freeman but the worldwide web is and what that means is I can start a website with my buddy we have no connections we just have like an internet connection and some laptops and we can build something that 9 years later will have more traffic than the New York Times or CNN and that works because all all bits are created equal you can get to my brand new website reddit.com you know nine years ago just as easily as New York times.com and you get to decide do I want to go to Reddit or do I want to go to New York Times it's just as easy to get to we are now in a position where cable companies because they basically have um olops right there's only a handful of them um want to break this they don't want the internet to be flat they want it to look like your cable they want you to have a basic package right where you get you get Bing search for free because they've made a deal with Microsoft if you want Google it's an extra $10 a month but it's a really good search engine so you'll you'll pay for it right but then if you want if you want you know Joe six Pack's new search engine well that's that's going to be an
extra 50 but you probably don't want that anyway and so now the entrepreneur the upstart the nobody's in the apartment have a much smaller percentage of the market because they're not part of the default internet package anymore right be like trying to start your own cable company good luck yeah good luck and and it rather than just getting a YouTube channel Channel and start to broadcast and so what used to be a flat internet will become hierarchical and we like you'll have that cable bill or you'll have that internet bill looking just like your cable bill and and it's it breaks the foundation of what makes the internet work all bits being equal and we're at a point now where judges in the federal courts recently ruled that pretty much we're cable companies can have their way now and and at this point my my buddy um at The Verge now he's at Vox but wrote an article called the Internet is [ __ ] uh and uh Nei really nailed it with this and he he basically had a nice little Call to Arms that was like listen at this point call the FCC I know it seems ridiculous um call the FCC and let them know they need to give this thing teeth because the internet is a utility like it is like electricity uh it is the kind of thing where we all know we need it we couldn't imagine a world without it and every one of us should have the same open flat internet no matter what and and we're at an interesting time because there was a Time in America when you know kids in New York were playing by radios with electricity and kids in the South were still using candles like this we've seen this disparity before but um we we we can change it we just have to make sure the internet becomes the utility that we know the last thing we want is the Internet only to be available in its fullest form to people that pay for the premium subscription rateit that's Insanity yeah it is insanity and it's it's anti- Innovation I mean it's and anybody that would want that is just trying to control Innovation that's all abolutely you're just trying to control information do you think is there a way to stop that at this point in time I mean I mean realistically seriously call the FCC you can read the article if you're not totally convinced he goes in I mean it's like 30 pages but worth reading um but really that's that's a
big part of it another part of it is is frankly having representatives in office who understand and will fight for our internet rights and there aren't a lot of them there are maybe like six or eight there's not a lot and um I mean we talked earlier about our uplifting discussion about the future of politics and politicians but like that's that's where we're at right now unfortunately uh that's what it comes down to and you have to call the FCC that's the only way to sort of get something to happen and and call I mean having here's here's the other thing I hope can come out of this right the first political thing I ever got involved with was soapa pipa and that was a dangerous thing for a lot of us to get involved with because it worked out so well like we actually did the thing democracy was supposed to do which is let a bunch of informed citizens take out Action phone calls petitions letters all that stuff and change people's minds in the face of millions of dollars in lobbying and we did it and it was it was a great High especially for like a first foray into politics but the fact is there are many more of those fights that we need to keep fighting and like I want I I hope a more connected I hope a more connected citizen feels entitled to this kind of stuff I hope we feel entitled to more transparency from our government I hope we feel entitled to like like to pick on Kim like we can look on Kim's in Instagram right now and see what she's having for breakfast or what she had for lunch and that's ridicul like that's that's absurd but it's accessible to millions of people right now 24/7 I want that same level of accountability for the people who represent me in government for my government uh and there's no reason why we can't get it we just need to be asking for it yeah but not necessarily seeing their lunch but yeah seeing the bills that they're working on and what's going on at any given moment probably having they should have 24-hour cameras on them [ __ ] it [ __ ] it let me read your email [ __ ] I Ed your but read them they get to read ours so um tell me about Aaron Schwarz mhm well wow um so he was in the same round of why combinator uh that Steve and I were he was working on a startup called infogami um we didn't talk a lot then um
but maybe six months after um he his company pretty much folded his co-founder went back to Denmark and Paul Graham who organized the white commentator was like hey Steve Alexis you guys need more developers why don't you work with Aaron and we acquired his company he moved in with us we worked together for a little bit um we gosh a few not long thereafter got acquired um once we got acquired it was clear Aaron was not not really that into it and he left and we stayed in touch for a little bit thereafter but not long uh and then he got really into politics uh really started getting involved in a lot of that great work for the open internet um we shared a lot of common friends and you know he he did some very he did some very unfairly punished things like he the the entire thing he he broke into a store room in MIT um downloaded using mit's credentials a bunch of these documents uh research papers but J store like these are academic articles M downloaded a bunch of them and um and put them online right well he didn't actually put them online um but he did download them and there was presumed intent but none of that that was all presumed and uh the state or or the prosecutor there in Boston came down so incredibly and unjustly hard on him uh the charges they were levying I mean I I don't know much more than what probably most people have read a few of the Articles know um but he was looking at some very very very long serious uh jail time for this um it was one of those very clear the punishment did not fit the crime situations they wanted to make an example of him and um he very tragically took his own life um rather than risk going to jail was he prosecuted um what does that like he did they go through and charge him and yeah mean did he did he get found guilty oh no this is I I don't know enough about the legal stuff of it understand um he was he was being investigated his friends his family were being subpoena and question and what these papers that he put uh were they available could you get yes yes if so they weren't secret no what it is this is this is one of those really unjust things um there's a lot of research that's done like Federal research for instance that's funny with our taxpayer dollars that end up getting
locked up in these ad like um academic journals that you have to pay a subscription for so in this case MIT had paid the subscription for it it's a non-trivial amount and and he was able anyone on the MIT Network anyone at probably any major university Network or anyone who wanted to pay could view these research documents he argued that you know what this is this is content we paid for right this research was funded by our tax dollars why should I have to pay a subscription to some random company who has the Monopoly on access to this content right and um that is what that is what they charge them with um and I mean I'm much sorry well that that is that those are the grounds on which he was charged so it was a felony because he was breaking and entering into the system uh I I need I I am not certain pretty sure that's what the argument is um and then there were some really egregious like the there are there have been a handful of developers or or hackers that have been sort of made examples of by the government where you have these instances of doing things that were not like like I said the severity the the punishment did not even come close to the actual crime especially in this instance where like I said this was not actually distributed he was just downloading them which again he could do within the network but it was technically breaking the I don't know the license I guess of J and the I guess okay and and one of so he's not even like a random outside guy like he had access to those files yeah the I mean any University student did and and I think the most egregious well one of okay there are a lot of egregious things but the company J store had actually settled up with him they had actually said you know what we like it's cool we don't want you to press charges so like they actually told the government don't press charges and and they continued and um so is that like a prosecutor that just wants to get a win is that what that is that is that is what it looked like yeah yeah uh bone chilling and that takes us back to what we were talking about earlier about private prisons and about people making sure that there's jobs for wardens and prison guards and they're making sure that certain drug
laws stay illegal or stay on the books God yeah it's the same thing people profiting off other folks the idea of someone just wanting to win when they're a prosecutor just getting a case and wanting to close it and make an example and then there's pressure on you to close that case and if you don't you set a precedent yeah if the guy gets off then the precedent has been set so it becomes a competitive environment yeah [ __ ] and some young guy's life is on the line it's uh and I and I understand I understand the role I I mean like I understand the role of laws and I understand the role of a justice system and and when you see things like that that seem to that seem to go so far astray from the intent from the point of having a justice system is really important but to have it be so just [ __ ] up like that is um is sad is very very sad yeah it's um it's another symtom of this mad mad civilization that we're a part of like the good things and the bad things they all to come together and law as it is and things these really rigid ideas of what's legal in illegal what the punishment can and can't be it's those things are so goddamn archaic mandatory minimums mandatory minimums are [ __ ] archaic I mean it's one thing if it's violent crime I understand that entirely I understand when you're making a victim out of someone or you're stealing things from them with violence I get that but something like this where the guy's just it's information what's he doing with his information is he going to take down the government no no no he's going to let people learn okay hold the [ __ ] up can someone in the room stand up and be like hey guys you want to put this guy in a cage sense you got a Super Genius who has some incredibly strong morals and ethics when it comes to information and to him he feels and you got a guy who's at The Cutting Edge of Technology one of the guys who helped invent RSS feeds he's at The Cutting Edge of the distribution of information and he finds this to be a toxic flaw in the system he wants it whether he's right or wrong you don't have to put him in a [ __ ] cage like that's is the idea that this is the right thing to do it's just it's shocking it's like it's like Inquisition style shocking it's like the same thing as any
of the other ridiculous archaic things that we don't do anymore yeah [ __ ] man and hopefully hopefully we can learn from this I know you know I hope so ain's law uh was a bill I don't know I don't know where it got in the house um but I hope I mean this is look right like the the the thing that gives me hope is that the system is is like it's like code and that you can you can update it you can do a source revision like you can you can update this right we can make amendments we can change things if we find that they are wrong and Aaron's law is a way to hopefully do that um but you got to get a bunch of people who don't understand the internet to agree on something well what's incredibly ironic is solution is Reddit have court cases decided through Reddit whoa it's perfect does not wo because the the alternative is wo the fact that we're using this archaic system of a judge [ __ ] has a mallet and slams it on a piece of wood what are you doing [ __ ] you got a mallet get the [ __ ] out of here with you why don't you have a a a [ __ ] bow and arrow too and shoot a flaming arrow through the sky to let us know that the games begun and a guy next to you has a conch shell and put your powdered wigs on you [ __ ] [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here with a mallet you can't keep using a mallet stupid bang bang bang get the [ __ ] out of here with that stupid archaic nonsense reddit's the answer no more judges get them out of Reddit point subreddits we have subreddits subreddits agriculture should we be able to grow hemp yes boom we're done we done here SCP that one up on the next one okay should this guy go to jail because he distributes information that was freely available to college students no okay we're good let him out what's next but you would run into the problem if there would be somebody that had like a stutter or something like that or if the joke turned on them then everyone would vote just because of the wrong reason you know how the internet is what meaning like what if there was somebody that had went you know had a court case and then they were being voted on Reddit and the guy had you know maybe had a stutter or talked like he was gay or something like that how that could turn and unfairly vote for the wrong reason on the internet I see that's where the
vote ups and vote Downs come into play I most people wouldn't do it I am I am going to be the first to say I am not proposing we throw out our justice system in favor I am I'll be the first to say I am all right I'll throw out the justice system in favor of Reddit I think it's a better idea I think look there there certainly should be experts in all areas whether it's experts on the environment and un uninfluenced experts experts that have no tie to the political machine experts who have no aspirations not only that preclude them from having any sort of off yeah any sort of position of power or any sort of gigantic job inside a corporation like what we're seeing did you see that movie Inside Job did you ever see that wait I feel like I did it was on the financial crisis fascinating documentary no no really good stuff let me let me pull it up yeah you you want to watch it but one of the interesting things about it was how they highlighted how these people that made Economic Policy these professors they recommended these positions that you know we we apply to our economy then they would go on and get these huge jobs afterwards and make [ __ ] millions of dollars what an interesting coincidence oh it's so gross it's one of the grossest things ever it's a really good documentary it's from 2010 uh and uh it's by guy named Charles Ferguson and what's interesting is this Charles Ferguson guy is I believe he's the guy that's doing all of all of the uh the questions I'm I shouldn't say that because I'm not really sure but whoever the guy is that's the narrator you don't see him while he's questioning people Bo questioning people he's so knowledgeable about how the system actually works that he catches these these like mathematicians and these economics experts being really arrogant and then he he faces them with the truth and you see scramble and start to sweat and I should have never agreed to this interview like you see them realize you're do what you're going to do with this and you see them like fall apart and panic and they fall into this like really sort of uh aggressive State it's it's quite fascinating job all right it's really good and it just shows you like that it's it's a mess Reddit it up fix it vote up vote we're solving problems
man I think we are dude feel good about it I feel good about this conversation I think we should end here before it gets as long as uh as long as we just remember uh there's going to be a mascot right we're going to keep the the Reddit alien going I like the that's a great mascot it's cute sweet doesn't look mean have you ever thought about I this is probably what happened to dig and a couple other similar sites uh just redesigning the whole thing as we want to [ __ ] everything up no I mean but what if it was just an option almost like a like you can go in your settings and go oh new I'll take the modern I mean have you ever thought about it at all we've definitely thought about modernizing it um part of it's just inertia like you're you're dealing with growth all the time you're dealing with all this other stuff it's like oh do we want to rethink how the front page looks I there have been small improvements like we just added trending subreddits which are pretty damn cool um to try to help people realize that there are these thousands of different communities they should dive into um but I wouldn't expect any big changes I mean for the reasons we were just joking about like it's broke you know I mean it's a content distrib Network you're you're face you're essentially you're allowing people to like really cleanly easily find something they're interested in in a text form and then go there it's the best way make it like keep it light and I mean look the it's not like there was some minimal Vision like when we graduated from college Steve and I just sucked at HTML and CSS like this was the first real web app we'd ever made we'd made websites but never like a fully featured web app and uh we just weren't very good so like for that was my fault the that shitty font we use for Dana that's that's I like this be a great font for use did you originally buy the domain were you the first one what was it originally purchased for oh it was it was it was unused 9.99 where get the name oh I was I was in the library at UVA Alderman library wahooa and uh and I was trying to come up with something that involved the word read and I was like Reddit like I read it on Reddit and and then I tried different ways of spelling it and Reit worked cuz no one
had it and I also registered d t but then I asked my friend Melissa I was like which one of these makes more sense for a bastardization of red it and she was like oh go with the 2DS idiot that's great man well listen it's it's what you guys did was nothing short of a cultural revolution I think in my opinion I think it's it's one of the key components today online as far as like the uh like an asset to distribute information to to spread cool [ __ ] and to let people you know have like intelligent discussions about it and a really rational way of filtering out the [ __ ] you know it's pretty genius stuff man well uh God you're here I I am happy we could do it uh because I'll tell you man it it it was just we were just trying to live like college students for as long as we could your book is without their permission is it available in audio did you do an audible version of it did you get to talk it was great yeah do it yeah they did oh they encourag oh that's so good it was for the Bane impression once they knew I could do a bane impression what's your Bane impression I mean I it doesn't matter what you think of my bait impression no it's not bad oh I know impression humor is like the lowest form of humor it's not the lowest form I don't believe in that man I think you got an impression it's hilarious it's [ __ ] hilarious people are so pretentious when it comes to that we had a laugh track nope no we already had a laugh track he was laughing that's the laugh track okay so without their permission and uh audible.com you have the in audio version a real version uh everywhere got ebook oh yeah ebook dead trees everything M and how would your grandfather say itan Alexis ohanyan and props for keeping the name Alexis good for you man [ __ ] the haters oh yeah let them rot all right ladies and gentlemen that's it that's a wrap anything else to tell people no thank you for having me man thanks for being on it it's been an honor reddit.com R DD T go get on it [ __ ] and uh onit uh.com our sponsor uh thanks to on it use the code word Rogan save 10% off any and all supplements thanks also to Legal zoom.com use the code word Rogan at checkout and save yourself some money Brian Redban where you at uh next week
we'll be going on the road with Des Squad with Tony henchcliffe and Tiffany Hades we're going to be in Portland Oregon April 18th at the Fun House April 19th Seattle at the Highline and April 20th 420 show at the Edgewater Casino and also if you go back you can listen to point list number four uh we actually had you on uh at on a death squad show uh back in the day boom shellock lock boom all right um we'll be uh this Friday night we'll be at the ice house tonight yeah tonight that's tonight yeah tiet a couple tickets left who else is there with us uh we got Tony hinchcliff K Christina pitz Jesus chist Justin martinell what a show Nick Yousef what a show uh Dave Taylor oh what a show and there's only 80 people in the room it's it's a [ __ ] amazing little Venue at the Ice House the oldest comedy club in the country ladies and gentlemen uh it's been Comedy Club since the 1960s like I believe 1961 or something like that anyway we'll be there uh don't get too weird with us though uh thanks uh to everybody else and uh a lot of [ __ ] uh good [ __ ] coming up next week uh I got uh Amy Schumer coming in again um I got a lot of stuff happening you also got the new Twitter profile and I'm so jealous Jo why is it hard to get huh yeah it's only been slowly released to a few people oh well did I get lucky yeah look at that you got maybe somebody loves a minute maybe somebody loves me Brian might not be lucky maybe somebody loves me why you got to hate all right um we we we love you guys even if you get a whack ass Twitter profile nothing but love for you big kisses and hugs all around Mah mwah mwah all right we'll see you guys next week take care big kiss bye byee [Music] he