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with like getting in line and waiting in stores because I feel like what is your time worth isn't it worth something it's one thing if you're ordering online but if you're waiting and then you're there with a bunch of other [ __ ] were there because it's an event and it becomes a game yeah and it's not much cheaper like if you go to Best Buy you're going to save an extra $30 than what it would be at Amazon and then you know half these companies online you have to pay tax which so that $30 you could have just you know save with no tax yeah and meanwhile you you're gonna have to use that money to get your teeth fixed cuz someone's gonna [ __ ] elbow you in the face while you reach for that laptop if they want people are crazy but on amazon.com um you know I I love ordering [ __ ] online because uh you you don't have to do it's like I do like half of my shopping is on amazon.com like it's it's so easy to order [ __ ] online but the idea of like going to Best Buy I don't want to do that unless something's wrong you know I don't want to go to a place I don't want to go to fries unless something's really wrong I need some [ __ ] right now cuz otherwise like [ __ ] going that's one of the things I love about stamps.com and those kind of services like I don't want to go anywhere I want to have to go to your place why can't we work this out why I do this at home anyway on it we're offering 25% off of all supplements 55% off excuse me 15% off foods and 10% off Fitness and packages plus an additional 5% of orders over 150 bucks and 10% of O off of orders over 250 bucks so for big orders it's like 35% off supplements and 20% off fitness equipment it's it's pretty powerful it's a serious deal and on it if you haven't been there for a while we have a lot of new [ __ ] we try to carry new things every month that we find that we think are interesting we just started carrying defense soap um yeah I need to get that so I've been I got to bring you in some REM remind me on Friday and I'll bring it in it's or I'll bring it tonight you can wash your mouth out with soap after you tell your dirty jokes at the at the house uh defense soap is is an amazing soap that works it keeps bacteria off of your body bad bacteria but it keeps healthy Flora on your skin it's all natural
ingredients like tea tree oil and eucalyptus oil it smells good it's completely organic doesn't smell like you know like I had um um I was at a um this deer hunting thing this weekend and they had like regular soap I washed myself with regular soap once and then I I luckily brought defense soap with me because some people they have like stinky deodorant soap so you're you're you're basically washing yourself with a [ __ ] a ball of like it's it's it's cologne yeah I mean it's [ __ ] cologne you can call it you can call it deodorant soap all you want that shit's cologne you're covering yourself with some [ __ ] that doesn't smell like you I know I have Axe body wash and I have like a one that right now I bought but I'm not going to throw it away but it smells like I'm Persian when I wear it for like the first hour I just I smell like I have like really shitty like Polo cologne on when I when I go yeah that shit's whack I I refuse that stuff just for their goddamn commercials like why why you treat me like I'm that stupid I know there's people that are that stupid out there but reach higher you [ __ ] actually they probably know their target marker because those are the only people dumbb enough excuse me Brian pardon me to order that [ __ ] buy I I just haven't had like I switched to body wash you lately like with like the little woofa or poofa or poopa well actually defense soap sells body wash too really yeah I don't think we have it on on.com yet but if you go to um defens soap.com I know they have it because he sent me some before yeah it's great stuff and it's healthy there's like a lot of uh it all came out of wrestling because in wrestling a lot of people get bacterial infections they get staff infections from their skin from getting scratched on the mats and then dirty mats and and also um ringworm ringworm is pretty common and a lot of times people wash with antibacterial soap and that's the wrong approach when you're doing that what you're doing is you're killing everything man the good stuff too it's like when you take antibiotics we have a real problem with overprescribing antibiotics antibiotics are very useful don't get me wrong I mean if you've got a staff infection or if you've got [ __ ] Lyme disease or something like that antibiotics could save your life
for sure they're they're it's an amazing invention of fantastic human minds but the reality is there's other ways to approach it and the holistic way to approach is to keep your skin healthy and clean and keep the healthy bacteria that actually fight off bad bacteria keep that [ __ ] active that's why I've always preached the the benefits of probiotics I drink Kombucha Tea every day and it's it it's it's I like the taste but there's these floating pieces of fungus in it that feel like an elephant just jerked off in your soda goobers it's like a sod a Beer soda e thing like I remember Marin you know Marin who's Mark Marin is clean sober and uh he had a kombucha and he's like uh tweeted on Twitter hey um am I drinking [ __ ] beer like what's going on here is this before the uh they started taking them out of Whole Foods Esther got drunk remember she she do she doesn't drink she had two of them and she was like like flurring words and everything there's less than 1% alcohol she said she was yeah yeah I don't buy that it's if it's more than one half of 1% now they have to mark it and it has to be sold as alcohol because uh they were using bottles apparently that allowed them to continue fermenting so if they had been on the shells for a couple months they got stronger and stronger and stronger as time went on fantastic for your health though amazing for your immune system it's really some special stuff have you heard about fecal transplants yes is that crazy bring poop in my butt yeah they take poop and they put it in your butt because or your colon like if you're you're lacking certain bacterial um uh things that are supposed to live in your gut back gut bacteria like ecoli actually intestinal Flora yeah intestinal Flora is the nice way of saying it but save people save people like serious diseases from [ __ ] that was sorry [ __ ] the stuff that was completely uncurable in any other way it's like you're [ __ ] unless you squirt this [ __ ] up your ass I don't know how they do it I'm ignor it they take a little pych it doesn't help anything I just wanted to film this no it's it's really simple they just take some from someone who's got the the floor that they want a little bit put it in the blender or you know in
some Hospital thing mix it up and squirt that right up you've heard of the the vice documentary about poop wine the Chinese I think do it where they make wine out of a kid's poop that's like seven years old or something like that I have heard that and I've also seen where they boil eggs and pee young boys pee virgin virgin boys pee they yeah they prefer like boys under the age of 11 or something like that whoa yeah I saw a thing the other day I don't know if it was vice but it was a thing about people going around the streets take up the manhole cover and they've got these big long spoons and they grab the that's caught in the the filter right in the strainer and it's all this like fatty gelatinous horrible like big Luger is basically what it is and then they take it out to their plant in the countryside boil it down and sell it as cooking oil oh and they estimated that 10% of the cooking oil in China contains this stuff oh my God [ __ ] that yeah yeah Brian C was telling me that when he was in China him he was with his family and his mom said that when they were at this uh restaurant she noticed that they had pig sty underneath the building right and she was trying to figure out what was going on and uh Brian was like why are they living under the building she goes I suspect that they're the the sewage system here and so and the heat the heat it's traditional that they had the well just the body heat of the animals in China and other Asian countries they would typically have them under the house so it would heat the house in the winter wow and and sewage I have [ __ ] into the eer face of a pig now that you mentioned it how dare you an eager do you know that Peta listens they're here the pig was asking for it all right this was no seriously this was on a long bus ride in Sumatra in Indonesia right and you get you know it's one of these 20-hour bus rides and you stop and you know all the buses stop in the same place they got the quick food and the [ __ ] big long line of [ __ ] and I go up and it's squat toilets right it's just a hole no Plumbing or anything and I look through the hole and there are all these pigs down there just looking up with [ __ ] all over their faces like us God oh my God and you just happily [ __ ] right in their face it was hard to relax but I had you know I was
traveling I I had a certain urgency what the [ __ ] anyway we don't sell [ __ ] or pigs at on it.com but if you use the code name Rogan you'll save 10% off any and all supplements and of course this week is the Big Black Friday sale and as I subcrib to 25% off supplements 15% off Foods 10% off fitness equipment and packages plus an additional 5% off or orders over 150 bucks and 10% off orders over $250 so that's this Friday we're getting crazy at on it.com lots of new stuff in it on it as far as uh products like uh digest Tech enzymes and zombie kettle bells to go along with the gorilla and ape kettle bells on it 180 a Nutri based rejuvenating drink mix designed to help your body recover from jet lag or from getting your freak on and of course Alpha Brain use the code name Rogan save 10% or go this weekend and save a fuckload more all right freaks Dr Chris Ryan is here and uh let's let's let's get this party rolling Jo check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day when a man tells you that he's [ __ ] into a pig's mouth you look at him differently forever more you look at bacon differently well um I've been uh I want to go uh hunting pigs I'm going to do that soon I think I'm gonna go and do that this January you ever read Michael pollen's essay about hunting wild boar Sonoma no that's an excellent essay I think it might be in uh the omniv wars dilemma or maybe it was published separately I don't remember where I came across it Sonoma is a big area for them Northern California has a huge issue with pigs yeah yeah in Spain they're wild boes all over the place and did you know the wild pigs and domestic pigs like wild boes like like the those those crazy looking evil bores they're the same animal the exact same animal yeah really not no species difference no no no according to Steve Rella it's the exact same animal Stell is without a doubt the biggest animal expert that I know he's the host of meat eater that uh hunting TV show I just got done hunting with him in Wisconsin for deer which are [ __ ] everywhere oh my God you know people that like worry about deer hunters and what deer hun like that's evil it's cruel like the people have no idea how
many deer there are like these guys they're asking to kill deer like they have to make days there's no Predators exactly there's coyotes which uh Kill The Fawns and they kill wounded animals like an animal gets wounded but man well I grew up in Pennsylvania where there are no coyotes right so there were no Predators there were like two mountain lines still in the mountain somewhere but uh they're everywhere I mean I've hit four or five deer in a car yeah and I moved out of there when I was 17 so that's two two years of driving my folks used to live in Harrisburg oh really yeah mine too we couldn't drive at night if you drive at night you better go 10 miles an hour cuz they were everywhere they in their driveway and you know eat your marijuana plants how dare those [ __ ] they eat flowers too they love roses yeah wow I had a crazy dream that I just remembered because of that that uh I brought a bunch of roses in for PE for a friend to eat and he was eating them telling me how fantastic they were and I was just taking it for granted I didn't want to eat these roses at all but I I got them for him what a strange dream Valentine's day but it wasn't like roses like a bouquet with like the leaves and everything it was like a plate like a like almost like a a tray that you would get like at Wendy's you know like one of those fast food trays stacked up with roses on it you served a man roses yeah yeah I was like hey man I got you some roses you could eat these you got try they're fantastic and I remember trying one I'm like I don't get it sounds like American Beauty it's a [ __ ] strange dream man and the fact that I just remembered it when you said that like deer eating things let's see what else will knock loose yeah it's dreams are a [ __ ] man they're so weird how like in the middle of the day you're like oh yeah that's for my [ __ ] dream like why can't I remember that what what is the mechanism have you ever figured that out yeah there's a chemical that your your brain releases that um erases memories as you're waking I don't remember the name of the chemical but there's another one that stops you from moving right so you won't hurt yourself it disconnects your volition from your body and uh that's why you have those night terrors you know where you're like you you hear
someone come in but you can't move you ever have those no you think that's what it is but it's really aliens bro could be aliens it's just it's [ __ ] aliens all right man what is it with aliens and anal probes well I think it's uh [ __ ] that's what I think it is and I think people who are crazy are worried about their ass all the time worried someone's going to put something in there what's the name of the of the singer who used to be married to the bike I'm sorry Lance Armstrong Lance Armstrong the singer Cheryl Crow Cheryl Crow do you know this weird Cheryl Crow alien thing no okay I may be the only person in the world who's ever noticed this but it all right she's got a record that came out uh and there are two songs on the record there's one called maybe Angels mhm and it's about the lyrics are like my bags are packed if they ever come for me you know I know my sister she knew Elvis and so all this kind of like it's sung from the perspective of someone who's waiting for aliens to come and take her away right and then there's another song on the record called Heaven's Gate which is I don't really know what that song's about months after this record came out the Heaven's Gate cult in San Diego all killed themselves because they thought thought that there were aliens behind the the comet the hail Bop Comet that was coming to take them away they all the same sneakers on yeah exactly they were all wearing Nikes I think right purple Nikes or something like that yeah and you know one of the people in that sect was the nephew of Lieutenant auru from Star Trek whoa it's weird wow but anyway that happened after she released this record so what I mean that's pretty weird you got a song about aliens coming to take you away and another song called Heaven's Gate and then maybe it was about that Warren batty movie that was really terrible yeah maybe she was like a Warren batty fan when she was younger or something like that I've thought of that as an alternative hypothesis didn't she just have butt cancer too from a pro she did yeah didn't she just like survive really no she had breast cancer I believe I don't think it was butt cancer girls don't get butt cancer as much as they get bre breast cancer breasts are apparently very vulnerable to cancer and
yeah well you know why why no because the cells uh replicate much more often and much more quickly in breast tissue than in other tissue oh which makes makes sense because they have to in order to swell up and morph and become milk bags yeah ovaries too right you think about ovaries that every month and I'll tell aarian cancer another very common cancer it's I mean here's here's a another angle on this that I'm working into this book I'm writing uh you know think about how many times a woman menstruated before agriculture ew I don't want to now you made me okay but how many so a woman came into uh became fertile at 18 or 19 because they had low body fat so they they menstruated later whereas now girls are menstruating at 8 nine 10 years of age but the sort of typical Hunter gather human thing it starts around 18 they'd be having sex before then but there was no consequences because they weren't uh ovulating so they got roped into sex that's the trick well I don't know about well anyway so just to to follow this line uh so they start having sex they get pregnant they have a kid they breastfeed for two and a half 3 years typically right so that's a period of like four years when they're not ovulating because women typically don't ovulate when they're breastfeeding especially if they have low body fat and then okay they start ovulating again they might ovulate a dozen times they get pregnant again now they're kid and so on so you add it all up you find that a typical human before agriculture female ovulated maybe between 50 and 80 or 100 times in her life you look at it after agriculture like now women ovulate 3 400 times in a lifetime sometimes a day some of them some of them seem like they're on the rag all day on a weekend the whole life their whole life they're spent bleeding so that stresses women's bodies a lot because every time they go through that cycle as you say their breasts are swelling things are changing what do they attribute this change in the amount of menstruating women do is it just food uh it's higher body fat which gets them started earlier but it's also that women aren't uh aren't having as many kids and they aren't breastfeeding their kids so a woman in in a Agricultural Society or now could have a kid kids on
cow milk immediately so then she start cycling again what's the numbers on people who breastfeed and people who don't almost all my friends whose wives had children they breastfed yeah I don't know and and you'd have to also think about how to judge it you know how long do they breastfeed I know one lady who didn't want to breastfeed because she didn't want her nipples to get ugly yeah yeah a lot of women what does it do does it stretch it out or did didn't do anything to my wife's but to some some people's nipp well some people are more susceptible to stretch marks too like I've met people that had a kid and it just wrecked their body I mean it looks like they were attacked by a bear you know like just claw marks all over their stomach and then you see some girls they have a baby and then like three weeks later they look like nothing even happened to them like it doesn't even make any sense That's genetics genetics they vary substantially when it comes to the elasticity of skin apparently yeah you know you see that in mixed martial arts like some guys get cut really easy and it's not just the shape of the bones that's been argued that it's the shape of the bones around the eyes there's some people that just have much more tender skin there's guys like BJ pen BJ Penn's fought like God I don't know how many times champ of two weight divisions I've never seen the guy cut never gets cut he gets beat up I mean he's had [ __ ] Wars eyes swollen no Cuts it's weird some guys you just you a punch misses them and they cut open it's it's a very strange thing I think it it goes that way with vaginas as well like some girls vaginas they snap back into action and other ones it's like you just shot a bowling ball through a chicken you know just it's what are you going to do with this you're going to stitch up stitch up the outside and pretend you're not uh you [ __ ] a canyon after that it's you know it's just genetics we were talking about Dan Savage earlier he's he's gay right so he's not real into vaginas and at one point that's what hear he wrote in his column uh that for him vaginas look like canned hams that had fallen from the sky and the cans split on impact how rude it did not win him a lot of admiration from the ladies it's so silly to say too they don't look anything like that shitty it's a shitty
comparison well you know what you know right but I mean it doesn't look like canham that fell from the sky at all no it looks like a strange gelatinous alien that's trying to steal your sperm that's what it looks like the mouth of some strange creature it's just some succubus it's just there to pull genetic material out of your body which essentially the vagina is other than being a point of pleasure and a place where you pee looks like your Predator mask yeah a little bit was that was in my last special yeah where I was talking about um my wife uh saying that uncircumcised dicks are ugly and I'm like have you even seen your vagina do you know what that thing looks like yeah the extra skin on that might be the best looking part of it yeah genitalia you know it's all in the eye of the beholder right be in the mood especially if you're really wanting it you know that's when it then then it looks better yeah that's when it becomes delicious when you're all excited so um so there's many things that have caused people to start menstrating later in life yeah primarily uh less uh breastfeeding less amount of time and higher fat diets what percentage of women breastfeed yeah and you're going to want to look on you know cross-cultural stuff too because no I'm going to go to the first website I find and I'm going to say it like it's fact cuz that's what you do that's how it goes the CDC Center for Disease Control they know yeah they'll know about America sure more mothers are breastfeeding but overall rates are still low 90% of families exclusively breastfeed for six months wow how many 90% and they're saying that's low um they say they're saying that um overall the the rates are still low is what they're saying in this article I don't understand that that doesn't make sense it's on CBS News too what are you saying you [ __ ] did I read this wrong is that possible you know and breastfeeding also relates to what we were talking about earlier with the the bacteria and the intestinal Fawn and all that babies that are born vaginally pick up uh bacteria especially skin bacteria that stays with them for life and they found that babies who are born through cesarian don't have that and are more likely as a result to
get infections and various uh fungal infections in their skin sweet I got [ __ ] bacteria me yeah you want to you want to get as much of that as you can and then uh breastfeeding as well the first few days of breastfeeding I think it's called colosium there's a substance that comes from the breast that isn't it's mostly stuff other than milk really high fat and colostrum colostrum I think that's the word yeah how dare you just spit that out like you know what you're talking about you don't know how to say it but I know what it tastes like you can order that you can buy it at uh Whole Foods from cows oh from cows yeah buy you want cow choster sure you do it's healthy it's rich in U human growth hormone or cow growth hormone it's very similar so what this listen to this statistic this is pretty crazy they're not saying how many people do it what they were saying was if 90% did this is how much lower health risks right right I can't read and talk at the same time but infants who are breastfed for the first six months have a 72% lower risk of H hospitalization for lower respiratory tract infections and a 64% reduced risk for non-specified gastronomical tract infections 58% risk reduction for the intestinal infection necrotizing enter wow enter ulitis in pre-term infants and a 27 to 42% reduction in allergic diseases in breastfed infants that's amazing you would be an [ __ ] to not breastfeed your kid if you could because you're like setting this up this kid up for like a life of much more likely infections much more likely allergic reactions those are big numbers yeah and that's just the stuff that happens when it's still a kid there's evidence that there are lifelong changes in immune response whether based on whether or not a kid was breastfed the World Health Organization recommends a baby should be exclusively breastfed for the first six months of life and then receive a combination of breast milk and easily digestible Foods through the age of two wow you should still have breast milk up to the age of two research shows that if 90% of families exclusively breastfed for 6 months almost 1,000 infant deaths could be prevented annually and 13 billion would be saved in medical costs each year according to the US Department
of Health and Human Services office on women's health that's amazing I mean I know there's some issues that some women have uh some women's um Aerials aren't set up for breastfeeding and some of that can be um helped with pumps too apparently and you know some people they just don't have the [ __ ] time unfortunately and also it's a social thing you know in the United States it's still seen as a shameful you know sort of something you should do in the bathroom they states where it's illegal to do it in restaurants or in public it's there's a lot of [ __ ] women have to contend with in addition to the biological stuff yeah doing it in public is a rough one in Spain that's like everywhere in India women are breastfeeding everywhere yeah but those are Spanish tits and Indian tits no one cares you know you got a nice American cornfed tit and you can't just have that out there in the breeze I sat next to one on a plane just last week on way home from Vegas and the whole time I just had my sunglasses on Staring at her nipple whole time great you're a [ __ ] creep the reason why PE no I wouldn't I'd be respectful you're the reason why people are afraid to do that you [ __ ] wait was was this a corn fed or St a nice fat why would you do that she was hot you're just being an [ __ ] okay anyway More than 70% of American women don't follow the new recommendations so that means that 30% of women breastfeed that's that's crazy that's this is so this is a more accurate statistic as to how few actually breastfeed 70% of American women don't exclusively breastfeed their babies for the first six months so they might be mixing formula in with that I'm not sure I'm not sure how it works but that's not good you you ever heard about what Nestle did in Africa no with the formula they had a bunch of formula that was um it was too old it was expired they hired guys to go around Africa wearing like lab coats looking like doctors trying to convince women to use this formula because they were going to just going to throw it away so they sold it really cheap in Africa now these are women who otherwise would breastfeed which is really good for their kids right but because these guys are wearing lab coats and you know speaking with authority and all this scientific
[ __ ] a lot of women tens of thousands of women started buying this formula mix it with the really shitty water that they've got there and all these babies die all over Africa Jesus Nestle got in big this was like in the 80s or 90s there was a worldwide boycott of nestle because of this it was it's corporations it's the idea that you have to make money for your company period you have with the the Supreme Court agreed to hear a case to decide whether or not corporations have religious rights right they they've already determined they have the right of free speech which is translated into unlimited spending on political parties because that's considered speech Citizens United and uh now today they agreed to hear a case because these companies that are owned by religious radical you know right-wingers don't want to uh have insurance for the employees that cover birth control so they say it's their right as a corporation not to do this even though it's the national law and the Supreme Court's going to hear the case wow that's hilarious yeah I mean when people talk about Frankenstein you know this whole idea like or will will robots ever take over it's like dude it's done yeah look at a corporation is something we created legal structure that we created that has already got more power than governments or religions it's taken over governments you even if you you talk to people they say yeah but there are good people in that company sure there are but the company doesn't give a [ __ ] yeah right because they'll die and they'll have new people it's like it's like a structure that has taken control of the planet and we're just part of the structure like working for this monster yeah it's all about ones and zeros and when it comes down to only being responsible for your bottom line and having an obligation to shareholders to in increase the money every month that that gets really weird because it is sort of a machine and it's each person has to go home and say hey what can we do it's business it's business it's what we do right like what what are what do we do we're plugged into this weird machine and what are the machines doing as best I can tell their entire purpose is taking part of the earth and turning it into [ __ ] you know
like destroying everything that's beautiful and and digging big holes and turning it all into plastic that then floats in the ocean some you know and when you're involved in the manufacturing process most except for ting ting it's different they're not really corporations sort of a company kind of a thing I got to say last time I one of the times I was on your show you were talking about Ting and I had an iPhone I don't know if you remember it I was like damn I would get tting if I didn't have this [ __ ] iPhone but I got so like tired of [ __ ] with phone companies like the hidden charges and the sneaky [ __ ] and I really admire this this philosophy of like hey here it is you get what you pay for we're not going to [ __ ] around with you I ended up selling my iPhone I got a Samsung just so I could go with tank good for you which one did you get the Galaxy S4 it's a nice phone yeah I saw you went with the the other one I got this bad boy that's a Monster yeah this is the the note oh you got the note I thought you got the note you had another one a few months ago I got a HTC1 yeah that not yeah this is the [ __ ] though this is the one I really love still using it oh yeah love the [ __ ] out of that phone that of the little pen yes the stylus I write my comedy notes on it like I don't need to bring a notepad with me anymore because I have an endless supply of pages and I can file them on the phone like I can shuffle through all my notes I can put them in folders it's amazing dude I got to stop coming on this show it costs me money every time I got to buy a new fun I'm going to have to go buy a note get a Porsche well the um the Galaxy S4 is pretty sweet you don't really need get another phone it is beautiful I mean just the screen looking at photos and I don't watch videos and stuff on the phone but I like looking at the photos and man like go back to an iPhone after that it looks so small and the internet is the biggest difference in the experience I mean because this the note is enormous yeah when you're looking at a screen if you're looking at a photograph on the screen or if you're looking at a website I mean it's goddamn huge I mean look how big that is yeah I mean it really is like a tablet you get get an awesome View and you know I carry a purse how dare you a MERS I like it I
wish everybody did yeah so you you got room for that in there yeah I put it in my back pocket it fits easy oh really yeah it's no issue at all but uh I'm 100% in favor of the MSE I think I'm I'm disgusted by the fact that we can't wear a purse it's rude we can we just have to take back take yeah I consider it more than a m i consider it my Qui chain cane bag remember remember qu chain K yeah I do kung fu yeah he had a bag that's right he had like a little Le bag yeah a little leather thing he kept his necessaries I tried keeping my laptop one of those cuz I wanted to look more sophisticated I feel like I'm in my 40s now I should probably grow up it didn't work I went back to the backpack backpack's just more effective wait for your 50s I just got I give up I just got this new shirt that like it's like a hoodie I don't have it on right now but it has like a man like a a a fanny pack built into it kind of your two hands in your pockets and then there's like this middle like thing that's just like a like a pack yeah yeah it's a velcro you just open it up and it's at the hundreds that's a like a baby step that's the gateway drug to fanny packs yeah and it's cool cuz I use it like crazy and it just looks like it you have a little you know stomach of gear and yeah and some some girls like guts you'll find them that way there girls out there that have fetishes just like guys like pretty feet some girls like guts really yeah I've heard not enough of them not enough of them it's an evolutionary Advantage there's more guts out there so they start they start gravitating towards them in order to ensure that their seed gets spread right and a lot of the guys with the guts have money yeah I think a lot of people have given up on quality and they just you know just want to get the job done and he pour in a storm guts are warm well physical attributes are not nearly as necessary as they used to be when our society gets more and more safe you know it's less and less a requirement to be physically sound or strong or not look like you're going to Keel over it in a minute now they have life insurance policies it's actually beneficial if you marry a fat guy with a you know with a bad heart exactly ladies kill when you will yeah if you marry a guy who's got like sleep apnea he's 100 pounds overweight and you know he's also
on a gang of pills like just wait it out get a nice life insurance policy make sure the medical stuff is all documented he's going to kick over eventually how long can he last get him involved in sports say y I want you to losing weight let's go scuba diving get him involved in some stupid [ __ ] that he can't do that that ticker will just give the [ __ ] out and then you rake it in hand gliding it's evolutionary right I mean there's got to be gold diggers have to be a a part of evolution right I mean it has to be some some form of an equation well is that a serious question because not really but it's like what we were talking about like corporations being machines I did write a book about that you know so I got yeah yeah all right gold digging yeah well we we wrote in our book actually we say Darwin says your mother's a [ __ ] I I had business cards that had that quote on the book um because Darwin's theory is that women traded sexual access for goods and services right right gold diggers essentially and the sort of mainstream view since Darwin has been that that's women's nature and that men's nature is to be the provider and so the women are trying to rope in the provider and all that but that we basically call [ __ ] on that in our book so how do you call [ __ ] on it what's the well you know aside from all the evidence that our ancestors did not evolve in nuclear families uh in our bodies and in our you know it's 300 pages of evidence but essentially what we say is no women have sex for the same reason men do it feels good and it's a way to bond with somebody it's not about getting something from the dude because when you actually look at Hunter gather societies Hunters go out of their way to make sure that nobody knows who killed the animals like the hunters will exchange arrows and stuff before they go hunting the guy who brings the animal back to the Village often generally is not the one who killed it there are all these um very powerful uh ways that societies make sure that nobody gets proud and nobody gets too much credit and everything's spread around evenly it's Fierce egalitarianism is what the scientists call it and it's not cuz they're you know uh Noble Savages or some [ __ ] it's because that's the best way to mitigate risk in a hunter
gatherer Society right so like you go hunting today you hit you get a deer I didn't get one I might not get one for a week right you're not going to get one every day it's sporadic you come back you don't have any Refrigeration anyway so it's not like you could keep it all for yourself and your wife and your kids right and uh and it mitigates risk Everybody Eats you know whether you get it or I get it we all eat plus we're all really highly indep interde dependent so the last thing we need is you and me fighting over who's a better Hunter and you know who's [ __ ] whose wife and all this kind of [ __ ] because that splits up the the group so what we argue in sex at dawn is that human sexuality was actually a way to bond the group together and people were having sex with different people simultaneously and raising children together and this obsession with paternity which is assumed to be part of our DNA is actually a response to agriculture which is just 10,000 years ago which is like five perc or less of our existence as a species so is a response to staying put which allowed people to make much larger civilizations yeah to yeah in in a nutshell essentially it was when people stayed put they could accumulate resources right right whether it's domesticated animals or land or buildings or wheat or whatever and so once that happens then there's a completely different sense of property right because in a hunter gather Society there's very little property because they're nomadic so you don't want to carry [ __ ] around right and um whatever there is is shared and uh when you shift to agriculture suddenly there's a lot of property and it's not shared it's it's hoarded it's controlled by individual families or people so that's when paternity becomes a big deal because you spent your life accumulating all these resources you want them to go to your sons right and it's also in interestingly the first time that people really understood that sex caused babies because before that everybody's just having sex and women are having babies there's no reason to think that sex is causing the babies right wow but then when you've got domesticated animals and you see like oh okay the Black Bull [ __ ] that white cow and now we got these black and white calves oh right I
get it right so you start putting that together when you're living around a lot of domesticated animals and breeding and so that's when women became the property of men if you read uh the Old Testament it says Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife right about property yeah it's not about respecting his marriage read it in context nor his house nor his Ox nor his slaves nor his she ass whatever she ass is so it's you know keep your hands off your neighbor's stuff and the wife is just part of his stuff so that's radically different from the way men and women interacted in Hunter gather societies where women had very high status equal to or sometimes higher than men's because the women supplied uh over half of the calories that people lived on right the Gathering is what brought the food in every day the hunting was an occasional bonus so the women were involved in plants and harvesting fruits and vegetables and things on small rodents yeah small rodents ladies take care of the small rodents we'll go get the elk you can't handle anything large so they because they brought in small rodents they were the kings that kind of makes sense well they you know they were the like Mom you know they were there day in day out dad's like hey you know like occasional party dad brings home a deer or something but but uh wow that's interesting how do they know this for sure well you look at well which aspect of it story women being you know like having a the higher status and all that um matriarchal in that case primarily you're looking at anthropological research that's been done by people on Hunter gathers right there's still some Hunter gathers in the world and in the 60s and 70s there were a lot more and a lot of uh people wrote their research on that so there's a pretty sizable research on Hunter gathers and what you find is universalities so whether you're talking about Inuits in Greenland or Australian Aboriginal people or Papu Guinea or the upper Amazon you find these similar or universalities among all the different groups so you say okay look if they're all if this is common to all these groups from all over the world then it is uh characteristic of Hunter gather societies and we know our ancestors were hunter gatherers so therefore we can
extrapolate wow that's interesting so what about money how did that factor into it because when you started not just accumulating material possessions but actually start figuring out finances and figuring out money and monetary compensation for work and things along those lines like how did that factor into the male female relationship because men physically being stronger were able to do things being more aggressive were probably pushier when it comes to acquiring that money and then they found themselves in an imbalanced position where the men have more financial worth than the woman yeah and the women generally have zero financial worth it's not just that the men are you know slightly higher you look at women in in societies like uh early agricultural Societies in the Middle East and you know as recounted in the Bible and so on a woman's only access to the things she needs food shelter status things like that is through a man it's through her father and then through her husband right well the Middle East they take it to the next level you can't even show your face yeah well cuz cuz you're the property of the man he doesn't want that being shown you're walking around the [ __ ] tent over your head every day some I mean that's the biggest that like you want to talk about like the weak ass approach to life they can't drive like I mean in 2013 Saudi Arabian women are battling to drive they're risking their lives to drive just to [ __ ] they won't let them Drive I mean it's like dude you guys got to relax your grip like all you Saudi Arabian men you're [ __ ] yourself over like has no one taught you you know what what having character is has no one taught you what being a [ __ ] is like what what kind of a man wants to keep his wife from driving and wants her to wear a sleeping bag everywhere she goes it's you're [ __ ] ridiculous the the idea is ridiculous she can't show her face like this she's got to go through life like she's a bank robber that's so [ __ ] dumb in 2013 the fact that that's still exists I mean what is that an echo of what what caused all that is a scarcity thing well I think it's an echo of these early days when women became the property of men and and honestly you know uh someone I was talking to recently uh just a dinner an
American woman said in the 60s in the 60s she couldn't open a bank account without her husband or father co-signing the bank cuz she was a silly [ __ ] she's going to go crazy with her money buy purses I don't think we have no money for baby for I don't think so yeah I mean it's not that long ago that we were we're still you know [ __ ] women over and lots of ways but um as far as that you know the whole Middle Eastern thing I I think that's a reflection of this notion that women are the property of men now why were women the property of men partly it's as you said questions of upper body strength and the way men organize politically more effectively than women did and so men took control of a lot of stuff also the need for armies because agricultural societies expand you know and that gets us into what we were saying earlier about corporations right that's when you get these institutions that where growth is a central characteristic of that institution you know I think it was Edward ABY who said growth for its own sake is the ideology of the cancer cell it's also the ideology of Corporations of agricultural societies you know we talk about growth right oh this this year's growth rate is whatever you know everything always got to be 100,000 new jobs introduced by the president exactly right what we need to be one of the things I'm talking about in this book I'm working on now it's called civilized to death um is the whole idea of progress stops making sense if you're going in the wrong [ __ ] direction if you're going the wrong way the last thing you want is progress you want regress we don't want growth you know we gotta go we got to contract get fewer people yeah using fewer you know fewer resources was a fascinating thing that Terence McKenna once said about a mushroom trip he asked a mushroom uh how could he possibly uh how could anyone possibly save the path that humans are on and they said very simply and very easily each parent each each couple should reproduce once you know two people they have one kid everybody relaxes the whole the resources relax everything relaxes like there's plenty of [ __ ] people okay there is zero worry that people are going to go extinct right but then the problem is
how do you go to those people like those crazy people that were on that TV show that had 19 children remember those people first of all what she what is she in labor for like three seconds I mean what what it's like that Monty does does he actually have sex with her or does he just jerk off into the abyss like how how how are those babies actually fertilized um that that woman how could you tell that woman she can't do that I mean I think it's a freak Show I think it's I I think resources wise like I have three kids it's hard it's hard to give them all the time that they deserve you know and you know me and my wife have discussed that when it comes to the possibility of having more children I said I think we should really concentrate on raising the ones we have like they're they're fun and it's great and they need a lot of time like children need a lot of time and I I enjoy giving them that time but I think that if you have another kid around everyone gets a little bit less time and I think in that getting less time there's some benefits the independence aspect of it as long as there's love and there's comfort but I also think you can teach kids a lot of [ __ ] you know and you can teach them a lot especially if you really are into it and you concentrate on it and you read a lot of books on it which I'm I'm really involved in the idea of raising kids like I'm raising little human beings so the conversations that I have with them are all geared towards that like it's geared towards enlightening them as to the world and it's sort of guiding them as how to how to treat people how to be nice to people how to be nice to your sister like be nice to the to PE don't don't get get angry at things for no reason look at it this way instead of that way and I think that kind you know you're going to miss a lot of that when you have 15 16 kids you're going to like do you guys just shut the [ __ ] up shut the [ __ ] up organize teams you you're responsible for your little brother you you're responsible for her and that's what those people did those people have like every kid has a chore and every kid that's how you you've raised zombies I mean these kids they're not going to know what the [ __ ] is going on in the world like they're going to need someone to help them every day is spent doing
tasks and and your life is basically religion homeschooling these tasks that's those kids that's the the 19 people what are they the Duggin who is that what they called I think so yeah see if you can find that I mean look I I don't think you could tell those people not to do that I think this is America America's Got Its faults but but they but think about it they only neutralize like eight gay couples neutralize what do you mean well I mean like if they got 19 kids you average it out like you got eight gay couples and who don't have any kid and like or adopt a kid which takes it out of the other pool and you're you know mathematically you can have out layers like that cuz there are lots of people like me who don't have kids you know and just I mean I think the way to do it is to remove the stigma around not having kids and to encourage um to en what Helen uh Sarah herie calls Alo parenting and this gets back to the whole Hunter gather thing um like kids are raised by everybody yes you know they say you know oh two parents are better than one yeah that's true but you know what five parents are better than two right takes pressure off you right cuz you get frustrated you get tired you know their mother gets tired and it also it's enriching for the adult I love being around kids yeah for a couple hours you know right yeah no I know what you're talking about can flee you know we had a party at my house the other day and uh there was a a gank for Halloween there was a Halloween party and there was a gang of kids over and uh it was fun it was fun talking to other people's little kids and you know seeing how they're different and how they behave different they have different ideas about stuff and you know there's nothing wrong with that this is the the family the 19 folks that live at home together nice house though for 19 guy must be making some good bank be paying for all those right kids of us maybe he just loves to [ __ ] it's all this religion and stuff just to keep them all around just loves sending it in 19 kids seems a little excessive but again I don't think always anal not for really religious people I think it's in the Bible oh really people pick and choose what they like about the Bible that's why they get religious tattoos do you ever think that were you raised
religiously uh 21 that's a family of 21 yeah there's this new one called the Bates family oh God they're taking on the [ __ ] Duggers the they're talk new they're still growing look at that creepy [ __ ] on the left uh yeah I was relased Catholic I went to Catholic school all right and uh I went only for one year but luckily my mom and my dad split up when I was about 5 years old and it's like that Old World New Jersey sort of Italian and Irish mix there was everyone was [ __ ] Catholic and everyone went to Catholic school and but for me it was it was very enlightening like I gave up on religion when I was 6 years old I gave up on religion in Catholic School right I was like obviously this is not real like this this is very obviously not buying this I was like if there's a God and I wasn't saying that there was no God but I was like this [ __ ] is just crazy people this is just more crazy people that have figured out how to control bunch of [ __ ] and scare the [ __ ] out of them I could see that as a six-year-old that this crazy lady who was teaching this class was just just an evil demented woman a hateful horrible woman who had nothing to do with what everybody told me God was about yeah yeah yeah my parents were raised Catholic in that part of the country and I saw a lot of that but I was thinking recently like uh you know you're talking about anal sex and Christians and all that uh I wonder if if we're sort of shooting ourselves in the foot those of us us who are trying to uh you know move away from shame and Hang-Ups and stuff I wonder if the people with the shame actually have better sex cuz it's intense no no you don't think like a priest [ __ ] a nun out behind the church in the woods knowing God's watching you don't think that's like a really intense [ __ ] no because I think you're dealing with so much guilt that neutralizes I hate guil yeah [ __ ] gross it's one of the worst feelings you can ever feel you know I mean I think there's there's reasons for it it's to guide your behavior in a way that you don't have any guilt but it's also you can get [ __ ] over and create associations very early on about things you really shouldn't be guilty about like masturbation right like someone was telling me hey you know man you should
cover your camera on your uh laptop because there's a camera on the laptop and the [ __ ] NSA can spy in on you and I'm like good they'll catch me beating off right that's all you going to get what you I I'm not doing anything bad I'm beating off occasionally yeah am I supposed to be ashamed of that but so for some people it is a shame like we Mr Ryan we have photographic evidence of you masturbating like good release it let the internet see yeah release the hounds let them know that I'm just like them this is just my dick okay I'm it hurts I got to get rid of some stuff I've often thought like that would be a great a political campaign like the guy who who or the woman who be says all right I'm running for president and let's get this out on the table right here right I tripped a lot in college I've tried Coke I've tried heroin I you know like I [ __ ] toes like just get it all out there and see how the country responds to that you know well this guy from Toronto is essentially doing that Rob Ford you know who Rob Ford is sure know Rob for what are you pulling up Brian Rob NSA spied on porn is a part of a plan dis discredit radicalizes yeah like if you're in a [ __ ] porn they shouldn't take you seriously sorry we're not allowed to say [ __ ] anymore [ __ ] is a new transgender porn can't say training they get upset but cabbies you can still call cab drivers cabbies so let's hang on to that while we can let's hang on to that before the [ __ ] super sensitive police breaks that down too they're cab professionals they're not cabbies [ __ ] you cisgendered [ __ ] oh I get so much of that stuff man of course you do there a lot of disenfranchised people out there that want to blow a horn at anybody who'll be an earshot but it's so frustrating I I just had this today cuz yesterday I released a podcast episode with a transgender person right tell me about this a wonderful person I met I met her at a party and I at first I didn't realize she was transgender but what's your dick taste like um coconut now that you mention it um but uh anyway I so I released this thing and I get an email today from from someone I know who's cool who's smart and and she's like she's a lesbian and she's like well you know uh she was upset because the transgender person dresses
like a conventional woman and Associates with this sort of conventional vision of Womanhood and so the lesbian is saying she's she's supporting a paradigm that makes me feel bad that makes me suffer that's hilarious it's like Jesus Christ the lesbians are fighting with the transgender people no wonder nothing ever gets better yeah I had the [ __ ] stick together I had a discussion with this radical feminist woman about um she the discussion originally started talking about transgenders and about how transgender man is uh you know man to woman is is a woman now and I'm like hm okay that's interesting I'm like I'm more than willing to call them a woman I'm more than willing to call them whatever new name they want or whatever they want to be called sure it's not my names to me are [ __ ] ridiculous the idea I understand that we need them you know it can't be like ah oh yeah I know all you why do I have to call you Chris why do I have to call him it's it's silly and they coming out of the [ __ ] Bible you know St Christopher St Joseph St like you might as well they're random a lot of them are random you might as well call us you know by numbers but what we were talking about which which got really weird was we were talking about traditional roles and um and things that women do that discredit other women and she was talking about makeup and high heels and I was like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa okay I know for a fact that if you see a transgender man wearing makeup in high heels you don't have a problem with that at all do you and she was like you're right and I go what the [ __ ] is that about I go if a guy is dressing like a woman if he has a sex change becomes a woman you're like you go girl but if a woman wants to wear high heels and let her ass hang out of a skirt you think that there's something wrong with her I'm like that's ridiculous like you're just close-minded you're just very rigid in what you expect from other people and yeah for sure there's some women out there that put on uh a big show to get sexual attention much like a peock male spreads his feathers I mean they're they're trying to get attention and it's effective I think a lot of the problem that people have with that that they don't want to admit is that it bothers
them that people are attracted to that it bothers them that people are not as attracted to them you know there's a lot of ugly women who are mad at pretty women I mean it's not fair life is not fair and until they come up with some sort of a genetic remedy which I believe is within a hundred years they're going to be able to take you and turn you into whatever the [ __ ] you want if you want to be a unicorn if you want to be the Hulk you know I think they're going to be able to do to your body whatever I think there's going to be elasticity to our genetics and the design of the human being will invariably be manipulated they're going to change it so you're going to be able to look like a beautiful woman if you want to and I think when that comes man it's going to be a weird time because first of all it's only going to be available to the elite at first there's going to be these glowing perfect specimens that everyone's going to want to [ __ ] no one's going to want to [ __ ] a regular person with a mole you know oh she's got [ __ ] weird teeth you know and maybe they'll become exotic or they'll become exotic most likely not though most likely to be like cell phones only rich people have them at first and then within a few decades everyone's going to have them because it's going to get cheap I I wonder how weird it'll be though because I think we'll be trained for it by our avatars online so we'll be accustomed to taking these other forms you know well there's that thing though I mean this is the thing about competition and the thing about it it really does boil down to that people feel like if you're attractive you're taking something away from them right like I I was at a wedding once and there was the bride at the wedding was Furious because some other woman that one of the guests had broughten was dressed really sexy and she had this banging body and um the bride was [ __ ] crying like that this was her big day and this [ __ ] [ __ ] came in and she's wearing this out and it wasn't it wasn't anything crazy it wasn't like she was wearing fishnets and a bra and was like capow why get married look at this [ __ ] this is what this is out here on the market [ __ ] face and you're sett on for cold mashed potatoes you know and the woman was attractive as well the the
bride was attractive too was and they were clearly in love and it was it should have been a celebration and should have been Joy and all she could think of was this [ __ ] was upstaging her on her [ __ ] day this [ __ ] was like why the [ __ ] did he bring that [ __ ] you know why the [ __ ] did she dress that way in my wedding apparently like no one knew her she was a guest you know a friend of the guest [ __ ] you know that that competition thing is weird because people feel like you're taking something from them if you have you always wanted to play basketball but you're you know you're 5 fo8 and like me I'm 5 fo8 and I God I wish I was as tall as that Mau Ying guy whatever the [ __ ] his name is me what's his name the big giant Chinese guy Ying whatever his name is Shaquille O'Neal let's go with Shaq I did fear fact to with Shaq and I stood roughly dick height to him and it looked like I was his child what his dick taste like didn't taste bad didn't taste bad tastes like a basketball little rubbery basketball little on the rubbery side very dark yeah um you know it's like you can't you can't get mad at Shaq for being seven feet tall okay if you want to play basketball you obviously that's not the hand of cards you're dealt my friend right and who gives a [ __ ] because I mean the Assumption underlying all these things is zero some thinking right you know that you're familiar with that yes famine thinking right exactly and famine thinking came on the scene after agriculture before agriculture Hunter gathers the the way anthropologists describe it is there is an assumption of plentitude in Hunter gather societies and in farming Societies in every society since then there's an assumption of scarcity it's a completely different way of looking at the world you also see it in we were talking about religion you see it in agricultural societies the gods are angry jealous temperamental perverse the Gods in Hunter gather societies are gods are giving they're they're not even giving they're they're just like a source of richness right it's a completely different way of looking at life the world each other it's amazing but they never invented [ __ ] they invented sharper arrows and things along those lines there was no cell phones if we're all H gatherers there'd be no
internet there'd be no podcast right now you wouldn't be wearing glasses [ __ ] would be weird you know it it would be I probably wouldn't need glasses you would be healthier do you think the glasses is Chemtrails making your vision yeah Chemtrails in my eyes it's the birth control pills in the Water World Health Organization works for the New World Order they um the the people that lived in these hunter gatherer societies though they were very happy I don't necessarily want to do what they do but they were very happy well you know yeah I mean this is what there's books about right sex of Dawn by the way people are what's his [ __ ] book name oh actually I was thinking of the other one the one I'm working on now B it's called civilized to death and it's about the Modern World in Conflict with our evolved nature but get saod daon Now read that before the new book come when is the new book going to come out about a year after I write it you haven't even started how dare you how dare you come in mispronounce colostrum [ __ ] son of a be you son of a be I'm busy I'm busy listen you are you are very busy Duncan got me into this podcasting [ __ ] you know I didn't even know what a podcast was when I met Duncan well you know and glad did it's so much fun I love it I I wouldn't write books if I could do this for a living I would just hang out and talk to cool interesting people it's a more effective way of Distributing information too I'm amazed how many people listen we're getting like 15 20,000 downloads at this point that's a lot yeah that's that's really good not Rogan numbers but well whatever I mean we started out Brian and I we got like a hundred the first day we did it 100 people watching on Ustream you know you guys are doing the video from the GetGo yeah we started doing a video we're one of the few that doesn't we don't um do any editing of our shows they just they air we warts and all they go out there you know some people and originally the big knock was that that was very unprofessional that we should edit it and but not that there but there's a there's sort of a thrill to it that people know like these I think people appreciate the authenticity yeah yeah it's like you're you're here and the also the conversations that we're having like this conversation with you
you can you can not just acquire information much more easily than reading but it also stimulates your desire to acquire new knowledge you know in a way that I don't even know if reading does it's like you you get inspired by a variet it's almost like a magazine you get spired by a variety of different ideas and then you can go pursue those ideas on your own but they open up doors and doors to me too not just to the listeners like there's a lot of just having these conversations being able to sit down with a guy like you for three hours and just talk I mean what how would we do that if we did that normally we decided to have dinner together we would be what are you going to eat oh the the this is year is really good and we'd be with other people and they'd be having their thing and you know it's you're right it's extremely efficient I mean my favorite thing about about it is exactly what you said it gives me a reason to sit down for a while with someone who otherwise might not be might not make time for me you know or half time you know they've got to think about their effectiveness well and also the committing to sitting down for like three hours because we're calling it a show committing to just sitting here and doing this you know it's not like checking your phone or I'm going to what's on TV what's when is this start is this season of that in and you know look at this magazine I guy what [ __ ] take who took this picture you know all that stuff yeah is like life is a distraction this is almost like Focus yeah you're going to lock yourself in clink across the table in a weird way we would never really sit you know we'd sit on a couch You' be over there I'd be over here we chatting you know watching a [ __ ] TV probably be taking most of our time or there'd be music playing or something there'd be something going on where you're you're you're adding to the distraction of life itself feeding each other flowers feeding roses feeding you a big big fast food tray of roses what a strange Shack's dick tasted like rose petals I would wonder what what some one of those weirdo dream expert people would uh how they would decipher that like what would be their uh Google there's a lot of dream uh dictionaries on well you remember Stanley kryner he's a dream
dream expert yeah I don't know what he would say about that feeding a man roses without the Thorns interesting yeah it was just pedals it was just pedals maybe it's the deers cuz I know the deer so did you did you back one yes yeah was it buck season do season yeah well it's both I it's kind of a sad story oh is Fawn season no no no I I didn't shoot one of those but um eating rose petal dream interpretation really my it's on my Islamic dream oh my God my is Laing please shut this off shut this off before we get jihed exactly I had nothing to do with that I shot um a buck and wounded a dough I dropped my rifle cuz I fell and apparently the scope was off on the rifle and uh the the animal got wounded in its leg and we had to follow it but we couldn't we couldn't find it we found a blood trail and we followed it for several hours the next day even looking for it we couldn't find the deer so it got wounded it was very very depressing very sad and it was like two extreme opposites the the buck I shot died instantly it was like I got I have a large caliber rifle one Winchester 300 wind mag 300 and the idea behind it was like I want to make sure that nothing gets wounded if I want it to be as painless as quick as possible I had my rifle sighted the day before went to a range I shot a gang of rounds I shot 90 rounds before the day before we left and another 20 the day of and I've been practicing a lot so my accuracy is excellent I was ready to do and the idea behind it is very simple I mean hunting is a very thrilling thing what I want to do this year and this is in no judgment of anybody who's not doing it but I want to be able to know exactly where all my meat comes from and I Want It All To Be Wild meat I think it's better for you I think it's an ethical much more ethical way than factory farming certainly and even more than agriculture because that an animal is living its life completely free and wild until the moment you pull that trigger and uh so my idea was to get all those ducks in a row make sure that I'm shooting at an animal that I'm definitely going to hit the crosshairs are lined up on it perfectly [ __ ] scope is off scope is off and the animal got hit in the shoulder so I went um I wasn't sure if that was what the case was or if I just missed you know there's so much adrenaline going on and it's so
so depressing and so sad so I went to a range and uh I went with a um a marksman too and uh one of the guys we were with knows how to sight rifles and he's like yeah this is off it's off quite a bit was off probably like six inches at 100 yards which is quite a bit I mean when you fall and I was I was walking around these slippery Hills with snow everywhere and logs and these big stupid Moon boots that I was wearing that were um there were insulated boots that were good to like 40 below zero but you can't [ __ ] walk in them I mean they're enormous and they stiff their ankles don't bend so you're like Frankenstein exactly like ski boots but they keep your feet warm but I fell and uh huge huge depressing moment very very sad I mean it's look the animal will die and it's probably dead already and if not the coyotes will eat it anyway it's part of the cycle of life and they're trying to get rid of as many deer as they can up there they have a lot of deer and the deer are damaging a lot of their they're trying to replant forests up there and the deer eat all the saplings they eat the leaves off the oak trees and things along those lines they kill people in auto accidents they do but I was obviously trying not to do that yeah I was trying to make sure that it died instantly like the first one the buck I shot was dead within seconds it was boom then did you have it uh cleaned the no I did it I did it gutted it butchered it everything hung it up on a tree took hours we we did it in a garage we skinned it and the whole deal and it took hours to cut it down into porch but this is the way right way to do it the last time we did it we we sent it to a butcher I have no idea if that was even my deer that I got back it tasted delicious it was awesome but I didn't see it I didn't see the whole process and to me it's like I was missing a step I wonder that when you get the ashes back from someone who's been cremated [ __ ] like really how do I know what's in here you know it's a stack of newspaper it's not your grandma like cocaine and they just mix it with [ __ ] yeah like they cut it they cut your grandmother with newspaper you might want to uh check out that book I mentioned earlier the omnivores dilemma Michael pollen because the the idea of that book was just he
said uh I want to make one meal where I know where everything came from yeah well I'm doing that now I'm GR growing vegetables I ate broccoli from my garden last night I have a I have a pretty serious garden now and it's getting bigger and I have chickens now I I have uh 14 chickens and I just ordered seven more getting seven more where do you order them from onl there's a chicken factory I don't know I'll tell you I'll show you you order them online they they send them through the US Postal Service actually they get there next day yeah and they're fine what are they call the red something Reds with do you know what the the breed is there's a gang of different breeds we have a bunch of different types of chickens but so you're getting eggs from them yeah I get fresh eggs every day from these chickens and then on on top of that I'm getting vegetables from the garden and I'm trying to go by the end of 2014 my goal is to be all game meat because I think if you're going to be a meat eater and I've been a meat eater my whole life I want to be I want to know where the food comes from one I mean it's great if you can go to a farm that you know the guy is taking care of his cows like Doug Duran the guy whose farmed that I hunted on uh this weekend he has cows and he grass-feeding he even gave me some of his meat that he and I was happy to get that I mean you know he gave me a couple of steaks you know exactly where that came from I know exactly what he feeds it he knows exactly what that kow's been through there's no hormones no [ __ ] just they're just cows eating grass this is what it's supposed to be right but most of the time you you don't know what that relationship is between the farmer or the butcher or the and you can assume it's bad it's industrial certainly if it's factory farm and also the fact that most of the steak that we're getting is fed grain and those animals are not supposed to be eating corn and antibiotics out the [ __ ] ass because one of the reasons being is because their body doesn't process corn well so they get all these abscesses and all these issues with their stomachs yeah look you know again I'm not trying to judge I'm not saying go out and do what I'm doing but I think knowing what I know about the whole process seeing documentaries
like food Inc and just know knowing what I know about I don't want to do that I I if I'm going to I'm not I don't want to be a vegetarian but if I had a choice between being a vegetarian and keeping the factory farm system in place the way it is I'd probably go with being a vegetarian I would just eat eggs I would just eat eggs and and vegetables and you know and things along those lines but I like meat and I I think there's lot of heal benefit yeah I think there's a lot of health benefits to me I really do I I find it delicious and I've always said this but it's not like those animals are going to live forever and become magic I mean they have a short lifespan deer if deer is lucky as [ __ ] they hit 5 years old yeah they have to be lucky as [ __ ] to not get eaten by a predator hit by a car shot by a hunter and especi or froze to death which is the big issue with deer especially in nonf farmlands see in the place where we're at these deer are fat as [ __ ] because they're grazing on crops they're eating Alfalfa they're eating on these uh a lot of these places they actually grow food plots just for deer because deer hunting first of all the opening day is [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy we were out there it was like 5:30 in the morning we were out there an hour before it got light and you hear as soon as the Sun starts cracking you hear boom boom yeah awesome boom it's like you're at a war zone deer day in Pennsylvania was a school holiday remember that I remember seeing people driving home from hunting with like a dead deer strapped to their Pinto yep y yeah yeah you got to be careful first day of deer season a lot of a lot of dogs and cows get shot and Hunters yes were you wearing like a orange camo yeah no no no orange just orange bright orange vest we were in a blind sitting there at 0 deges outside up in a tree no no no one time I went up in a tree but uh was for a short amount of time I only hunted up in a tree for about an hour most of the time was in a blind that was on the ground is it it's intense because it's nothing nothing nothing you're waiting you're freezing I mean [ __ ] freezing it's it's fine if you're walking around if you're well insulated and you're walking around it's actually kind of pleasant because you feel warm because your clothes are good you're weing wool and down and all these
different things but when you just sit down nothing [ __ ] keeps you warm you have to you have to tense your body and release and tense your body those chemical bags that those help those help they keep your feet warm I didn't figure out those until the second day they made a big difference and you put them in your gloves you hold on to these little bags and they they help but your face is still falling off you're still sitting there freezing your dick off your nose will not stop running but it's quiet quiet quiet nothing nothing nothing you he snap and you look over like oh [ __ ] there's a deer oh [ __ ] there's a deer yeah it was pretty exciting very exciting we had decide whether or not the Deer was big enough for me to shoot because this guy is trying to raise large deer on his property but since they're trying to get rid of as many as possible right now because they're growing they he kind of gave us the green light to shoot a younger deer so the deer was only like two years old they like him to grow like five years they get these big crazy antlers right but I'm you know they're big antlers are cool but I was doing it for meat like that's what I want to do it for from now on I want to just try to do that every few months and bring back you know 100 pounds of meat or what shoot an elk you know shoot a large animal and just try to live off wild animals you know my my wife's from Africa from mosm be I'm leaving in two days we're going to mosm Beek first time ever for me to be in Africa whoa um but uh one time we were she was raised in a rural her grandmother's house was in a village African village and she spent weekends out there all the time so anyway one day we're in Amsterdam we're sitting in Amsterdam it's a beautiful spring Day by a canal and you know these little ducks go by and she's looking at these ducks like really staring at these ducks and she got a weird look on her face I said what are you thinking she said oh I was just thinking how much I'd love to kill that duck and rip its guts out and stuff it with garlic and herbs and rosemary look me my grandmother and like my wife grew up like you know ringing necks of chickens and ducks and geese and you know like it's no big deal for her you know it's like whatever that's what you do she thinks we're silly Americans are
ridiculous with our disconnect from where things came from well there's this woman that I know who's raising her son to be a vegan she wears a leather jacket she's got leather shoes on and she eats meat oh but he's got to be a vegan the kid to be a vegan the kid's [ __ ] three [ __ ] up yeah somebody needs to call Child Protective Service you mean I don't know what kind of B12 they're giving the kid I mean maybe hopefully they're giving them B12 they say a lot of people that uh they get their B12 from actually from insects from just the amount of insects that you eat inadvertently that are mixed into your yeah mixed into your vegetables oh not Burger Shing B12 every day a couple weeks ago such a great energy boost [ __ ] yeah it's great for your body too you know uh Trum Tech sport one of its big ingredients besides the CPS mushroom is B12 fantastic for endurance I mean they used to give it to us uh int muscularly when we were uh wrestling if uh like uh someone was feeling tired or down they shoot you give you a shot of B12 cuz a lot of guys were drained as [ __ ] from losing weight and uh they a force Pilots use that yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of people the best way is the shot there's sublingual um there's actually a good company that makes a spray that you use sublingually that works pretty good but nothing beats you over injecton bang B12 right in your system yeah that's a big issue with uh vegans not getting B12 cuz primarily I think it comes from animals but they've um they actually um brought this vegan couple to trial for manslaughter murder or whatever it was because their child died from malnutrition because the kid wasn't getting enough B12 their baby died because they didn't give it the proper Vitamins because they insisted on a vegan diet so in not harming animals they harm their child you know life eats life and that's a real issue factory farming is evil I agree I'm with you I think you know it goes along with the same thing that we were talking about earlier with corporations being that we lost are we lost the script and humanity is not favored over finances over ones and zeros Humanity should be favored above all else it should be exact most corporations should be serving us yes how did we end up serving the corporations well they are us and they
are because there's it's a because it's a game because it's a you know a cumulative game you can figure out how to acquire more and there's clear benefits to being you know the guy who has the giant mansion who gets driven around in Rolls-Royce like you know there's he's got a G5 he flies his own jet you know there's all those benefits and being that ruthless [ __ ] but you know the the I mean maybe I'm going to sound like one of these vegans here but I I've known a lot of these guys with the yachts and the the mansions and they're not really happier they're not actually happier in fact a lot of them are much less happy than than certainly Than People suppose because when you get that much [ __ ] then your life becomes about your [ __ ] yeah you got you got that much money where you going to invest it you know people are always trying to get it from you you know what is it Freedom's another word for nothing left to lose right that's a different kind of freedom but I think there's a middle path and I think we make a mistake by assuming uh that people are necessarily going to be happier when they get more no money is one there's a broad range of needs that a human has and in this Society you need a little money because you need to be able to figure out how to pay for food and shelter and yeah the studies do show that happiness goes up uh from like s Grand a year to 40 Grand a year and then after 40 Grand a year it tapers off H yeah I was think once your needs are met once your needs are met that's not everything after that is not about happiness like I was explaining this to a friend of mine that uh one of the the big things that happened to me when I started doing well and started making enough money I mean it was not rich by any stretch of the imagination but when I first started doing well as a comedian was that I didn't feel worried anymore like about where my bills are getting paid cuz every month was like a [ __ ] terrifying struggle to pay for food and pay for gas and it was always like barely under the wire I'm paying my rent three days late every month it was because I didn't have it you know it's just it was always like that and once that was alleviated it was a huge pressure release that's what makes you happy when you can go to a restaurant
and not worry about what you order you know that makes you happy everything after that you get used to you get used to a big house just as nice to have a small house you just sometimes small house is better it's Cozier everybody's connected they're all you know that's the thing that the the greatest predictor of Happiness once you get past that level of subsistence or you know you can take a vacation you're not worried about paying your bills and all that the greatest predictor of happiness is community is sense of community interconnection with other people and the the you know shooting ourselves in the foot with the the wealth is that one of the things that happens with wealth is that we become isolated and insulated from other people you know and what's the difference between comfort and numbness you know it I mean I used to travel backpack all over the world and sometimes I'd meet somebody and they'd be like ah you don't know man you gota you gotta come with me on my private jet you know we stay at the five star hotels and those people didn't see anything yeah you know the five star hotels are the same wherever you go you know like it's different Beach out front but that's it you're not really meeting any of the local people whatever yeah I mean yeah whatever you know what I'm talking about it's there's an isolation that comes with money and I'm not just talking about wealthy people I'm talking on a social level as well we're much more Americans are much more isolated socially than Indians or Cubans or Brazilians of lower classes you know it's there's a we pay for the money is what I'm saying yeah I I see that I mean it makes sense and I think that society as a whole gets really weird when when you have cities too you know Jim Norton who's good buddy of mine lives in an apartment in New York City and he lives in a building with probably a thousand people I mean I don't know how many people live in the building I go who do you know in that building he's like he goes I don't know anybody he goes I say hi to my neighbor every now and then I've seen him a couple of times he goes but I don't know anybody so it's even more crazy because unlike a community like your house is next to your neighbor's house you see him mowing in the law and you say hi so what do you do
I'm a printer oh cool I write books and you have a little chitchat well hey if you ever need anything I'm next door that doesn't even go on and there's a thousand people living in a box stacked on top of each other and that is the norm as in instead of the village like one of the things that I found really fascinating about your book was uh sex at dawn was the way you describe the interconnectedness of these small societies that the idea of promiscuity that we have today what that's our idea of it is someone going going to a bar and picking up a stranger total ROM stranger and having sex with someone all willy-nilly and crazy like that's not what promiscuity originated as it originated as just having sex with a bunch of different people that were also in the tribe and it was the norm and you knew them yes like you've known them for years yeah yeah yeah exactly so we tried to make a big point of that so that people wouldn't get confused by by our use of the word promiscuity because as you say it means it means now screwing a stranger and people don't recognize that in prehistory there really weren't any strangers yeah you know so you're talking about that that apartment building and how nobody knows each other reminds me of a book I just read recently researching this other one uh Called Paradise built in hell and it's a it's a studies of the way people react to disasters you know and a contemporary mainstream economic theory which which is sort of based on the idea that we're all selfish and trying you know self- optimizers always looking for Advantage AG for ourselves that's sort of like built into economic theory would predict that in in disasters that people would be even more like that you know they they'd be even more protective of their resources whereas what actually happens is that in disasters people start helping each other strangers you know like those people in that building that's when they'll meet each other when there's an earthquake right and like holy [ __ ] did you feel that or you know Twin Towers people were so happy after that and I think that's also why people enjoy I'm not sure enjoy is the right word but um you ever heard of Sebastian Junger yes his book War I saw him being
interviewed about that he's the CNN correspondent is that what he is well he's he's a war correspondent and he was embedded with a marine uh platoon in the coral Valley for like six months in Afghanistan and this was like they were at the tip of the spear right where they were getting attacked every day because they were like in this point in a valley where the Taliban were above them on the Mountain shooting down into their base it was just a horrible thing so he was there and uh for six months I think and he was being interviewed about the book it's called war and he said uh they said to him like so but why did these guys do that you know I mean they don't care about geopolitics they're not thinking about oil pipelines and Chinese expansion you know whatever the the guys in the Pentagon are thinking of why the hell do they do it and his answer was love right that's what makes these guys go to war love for each other that they have a sense of community when you're under Fire right like we talked about a disaster in New York or an earthquake or whatever but imagine like every damn day is an earthquake and you're with the same dudes every day and you're depending on each other constantly it creates deep bonds of love that people really miss when they're gone and I think those are the bonds our ancestors had yeah there's an intensity to life in those circumstances and in immediacy yeah you know cuz any day and you were out hunting when you fell that gun could have gone off and you could be dead now no I didn't have bullets in the chamber I'm not [ __ ] okay well it's I'm illustrating a point a hunter gather is out with his [ __ ] you know poison tipped arrows if he trips you know fall and break your neck or a leopard can kill you or a snake can get you or you know whatever you can the immedi of death is I think something it's a tonic it makes life uh immediate and excited do you think that maybe that's one of the reasons why people feel so unfulfilled is that they're not experiencing highs and lows they're just experiencing a drone like a daily drone of traffic and a job that's mundane and and is that what causes all this depression yeah I think so and suicid and you know all sorts of of horrible uh results of this is what I said earlier what's the difference between comfort
and numbness right Comfort is think about what we associate with comt Comfort pillows blankets sleeping bags jackets cushions things that stop us from feeling right that's what Comfort is it's a lack of feeling it may be a lack of negative feeling but if you block negative feeling you're also blocking positive feeling anti-depressants they don't just make you stop being depressed they make you stop feeling they take the highs and the lows they take numbness they make you numb they create numbness exactly yeah there's a lot of people that I've talked to that have had them and then gotten off of them theyve like I just like lost time it's like there was that that year meant nothing there was like there was missing time like that year was just a series of things that went on that had no emotional connection to whatsoever and that's the antidote for this crazy society that we live in that's completely unnatural and this all the all the the the the reward systems that are set up in our bodies from thousands of years of DNA and learning all that stuff is just never appeased there's no real thrills there's nothing you know your your real Thrill is like going and buying some illegal drug from someone and just closing your door and doing it when no one knows [ __ ] you I'm doing heroin you know those your yeah well and there's a ritual I mean a lot of the junkies find the the hardest thing about kicking heroin is the loss of ritual and Community again with the junky Community the junkie Community you're hanging out with your the same people you know you've got this thing in common you've got the ritual the burning the measuring the you know syringes the whole [ __ ] yeah I mean I've been interviewing a lot of addiction specialists recently did you have Carl Hart on here no oh he's cool he's he's a really interesting what does uh Carl har do K or C C uh he's a neurology professor at Columbia University ha or H HR t h no I think I sent you an email about him because he was coming out to do the bill marah show like a month ago or something he's got a book out uh called high price and it's sort of a autobiographical um account of him being born in Miami wrong part of town he's a black guy you
know lowincome and uh I don't remember if it's his brother or his you know buddies growing up most of them are in jail uh you know a lot of grew up in that like Inner City drug scene right and through good luck and some people who were impressed by him he ended up getting a PhD and now he's a tene professor at Colombia but he's a dude from that world and so he talking about drugs with a very knowledgeable realistic understanding of what they are and what kind of people use them and why they use them you know and so his he argues that you know drugs aren't addictive what's happening is these people are in this absolutely impossible situation and as you say they like go get the drugs and get behind the door and say [ __ ] you because it's like the only the only Escape they've got yeah they're unfulfilled the the idea of the hunter gatherer being a fulfilling life like that lifestyle being a fulfilling life has really been appealing to me lately one of the reasons why I started this uh this project of 2014 to live off only game meet because I started seeing these documentaries like the Warner Herzog documentary on the TAA happy people oh that's a fantastic film I mean I love everything her sg's done I've seen all of them but that's a wonderful one yeah there's a realness to those people and and and then there's also these Alaska shows that I like like Life Below Zero is one of them where people that live either below or right above the Arctic Circle or right right uh below or above the Arctic Circle some of them 140 mies above the Arctic Circle I mean they're just [ __ ] freezing their ass off but they're they're happy they have a task they do it's not my life it's not what I want to do they they're missing a lot of things that I enjoy you know but there's something about this this life that they're living that creates these stable happy people if you look at reality shows like reality shows drive me [ __ ] crazy and I think they should because there's something about putting people on television for no reason and then following them because they're on television for no reason like Keeping Up with the Kardashians like the Kardashians are just some normal folks I'm sure they're no better or no worse than most of our neighbors but when
you're following these unexceptional people that have nothing to contribute there's they're not doing anything they're not releasing songs they're not writing books they're not contributing to the the the cultural awareness there's nothing going on there but yet you follow them anyway because they're being broadcast and it becomes something that you're locked into but you're dealing with people of exceptionally low character nonsense talking you listen to things they care about the things they say like they're essentially children eating the fat of this Society this this oozing big fat sloppy society that just lets them pull up to the trough and feed and because of that they they never are pressured to develop character and true identity and be exceptional people in in the way that these hunter gatherer people are that I watch these subsistence shows you're dealing with these really solid people they get up it's [ __ ] 20 below zero they have to feed their dogs they have to pull together these uh these salmon Wheels to gather up all these fish so that they could feed their dogs if they don't get 200 fish 200 pounds of fish they're going to have to kill one of their [ __ ] dogs because they can't feed the goddamn thing so they have to put it out of its misery and this one guy was talking about how he had to kill all his dogs one year he had to kill all his [ __ ] dogs cuz he couldn't feed them I mean these are they're different kind of people then someone like I hate red shoes why did you give me red shoes oh my God my feet are fat they're not fat shut up she knows my feet are fat and then you cut away she's always telling me my feet are fat and then when I say my feet are fat she's like no they're not well make up your mind [ __ ] I mean that that kind of nonsense distraction when you come home from a day of work and you're all [ __ ] up on Zoloft and you're just staring at this stupid [ __ ] show like what is that what what is that I mean is that like some sort of a a way that this machine has of getting us to continue to contribute continue feeding this machine continue buying things and becoming a part of this weird process we have where all we do is just create new items and blocks of [ __ ] things and and stuff your house filled with [ __ ] that you buy and everything
that you buy just continues to contribute to this process of constantly creating new [ __ ] that's it man keep running on the Wheel all they care about is that the wheel keeps spinning faster and faster if possible it doesn't matter why right I mean I I remember listening to this interview with a football coach a few years ago it's great great moment they said I don't remember who he was but they said what's the key to being a great coach he said well you've got to be smart enough to really understand the game but not smart enough to see how little it all matters I thought well that sums up just about everything you know because if you think about it you realize like this is all [ __ ] you know this the the the entire Enterprise of Western Civilization is not leading to happiness it's leading away from happiness higher suicide rates higher depression rates higher lack of of Life satisfaction plus we're destroying the Fisheries we're destroying the [ __ ] planet you know bit by bit bigger bits all the time what's what is the point of this you know and people say well but you know look at the pyramids you know we created the P we cell phones blah blah blah but none of that [ __ ] matters unless it contributes to human happiness and it's demonstrable that it doesn't therefore I mean I I hear you you say well I'd miss this I'd miss that I'd miss a lot of [ __ ] too there's no doubt about it and in the book I'm not advocating that we go back to Hunter gather societies although partial steps like what you're doing are great not because it's going to save the world but because it'll enrich your life and your kids lives yeah but uh you know the whole like I'd miss this or that thing is kind of like a nonissue because if you were raised in that Society then you wouldn't have it you wouldn't know to miss it right right so it's not about you or me becoming Hunter gathers it's about looking at these two approaches to life uh independently and saying okay the people who are born and raised in those Traditions what's the outcome who's happier who's better off who has greater life satisfaction who has better health who you know look at all these different par parameters there's a great book um uh don't sleep there are snakes it's
about the Paha people of the upper Amazon this missionary went to live with him and he's the only Westerner who speaks their language it's a very unusual language Daniel ever it um and uh so he went to live with them learned the language and eventually they uh convinced him to adopt their spiritual Traditions rather than the other way around he abandoned the church church that I don't remember which church sent him but he talks a lot about uh happiness satisfaction he says uh some psychologist came and visited the village when he was there and these are Hunter gather people with very little contact with the outside world and uh the psychologist said man I've never seen anyone happy this much for this and he said the way you judge it is you take videos and you look at how much of the time they're laughing or smiling right and he said they they laugh about everything their house falls down they're laughing someone you know you you're embarrassed you laugh like everything is about laughter it's very interesting Society uh a real look into the mentality of these people one of the things that's really striking about them is that they don't you know we're talking about Focus right they don't have a sense of future or past that extends Beyond uh past beyond the generation of the grandfathers so when the missionary showed up and started talking about Jesus they'd be like okay did you know this guy and he's like no no this was a long time ago did your grandfather know him no no this was before my grandfather end of conversation they were done they're done that's like then it's meaningless wow you know there's no connection between you and this story this I don't want to hear about this [ __ ] it they just walk away that's intelligent absolutely not interested yeah I mean that doesn't you know obviously it's nice to have history you know we have a lot of it and you can learn a lot from reading about amazing [ __ ] that happened a long time ago that's documentable but that's pretty funny yeah yeah we we would the problem we have is it's so deeply engrained in our idea in in our idea of of culture so deeply ingrained that when you're talking about happiness that happiness without money like without success is like come on you know like we we don't
buy it like if you're talking about like a guy who's got a you know half a million dollar house and and you know he drives a Cadillac and works all day and like well listen you know we've we've decided to start a commune and we're really we're going to be really happy we're going to grow our own food what are you going to do for money we're not going to have any money get the [ __ ] out of here look at this house I got look at this car come on I need to pay for gas it cost a lot of money to just the electric bills $500 a month you know you people get this idea in their head that you're what this thing that you're doing this part of this role that you're playing in this Society is the only way to be it's inevitable yeah to step outside of that and have like a a radical restructuring of what you do is really impossible you know why because you're always going to have to pay taxes on that [ __ ] house you're always going to have to pay even if you buy your house even if you own your land H you don't sorry every year you have to pay [ __ ] property tax period in Spain it doesn't work that way in Spain it shouldn't work that way yeah you pay the tax up front when you buy it and then you're done that's it it's yours unless you're talking about gigantic chunks of land like if someone's got a [ __ ] goddamn huge Ranch it's got 3,000 acres and I mean it's obvious like they're using up a lot of resources a lot of water there a lot of you should probably pay some sort of a tax on that but if you're just a guy who's got a $150,000 $200,000 house and you worked your whole life to earn that house and you you bought it and paid for it you should be [ __ ] done just like you're done with your car you don't have to keep paying your [ __ ] car every year you don't have to like what's your car worth this year Well you owe us 10% of that boy like I paid it already like what are you talking about I paid sales tax you guys got a cut when I bought the [ __ ] thing like why do you keep getting a cut every year what is this property tax nonsense it's stupid it's ridiculous and it keeps you on the tit it keeps you on the tit you can never just go off the grid right one of the shows that I watch is this show called Mountain Men and there's a guy named Eustace Conway and he lives in North Carolina and this guy
is totally off the tit all right all he does is live off the L he's got a generator that uses the river waterer the river water spins this wheel that creates electricity and that's how he Powers his band saws he cuts his own wood chops he has like a couple thousand acres out there and he lives off of deer meat that he shoots lives off chickens that he raises he's off the land grows his own kale the whole deal but his big dilemma paying his [ __ ] property tax every month so every year you know he's got to figure out how to sell things he's got to chop wood and sell wood he's got to do all these different things when really he paid for all that [ __ ] we should just leave that guy alone he's not hurting anybody by living off the land that he paid for like get the [ __ ] off his back yeah but they're always going to do that they're always going to keep you tied in if they can if they can figure out a way to keep sucking money out of you and it's essentially a justification for the incompetent system the system is so [ __ ] filled with just just gross misspending and misappropriation and and and mismanagement of funds just so gross and sloppy and bureaucratic and they just they need to be to everybody to be on the tit in order to feed that stupid inefficient machine here here man here here when you were talking about Alaska you know and getting off the grid and all that uh you know I had a transformative experience the first time I went to Alaska I I was in college in New York I was studying literature and one of my teachers who was a visiting Professor that I got to be friends with was the youngest person to ever be a professor at Oxford he's like a real big shot at Oxford I mean since 1261 or something this guy's the youngest person to ever be a professor there wow how old was he 21 when he was a full full Dawn yeah wow anyway he's very well-known guy and D Gandhi was his godmother he's written a bunch of books and all this and he was a friend of mine and he was uh I was in my I was skipped my junior year of college and that's so I had one more year undergraduate and then I was going to go to Oxford for my PhD thanks to this guy and his connections I was going to like study literature there do a PhD and by the time I was 30 be teaching somewhere hopefully have tenure
and be all set for life and all that so I skipped my junior year cuz I found a loophole in the student handbook where I could like scam through which I've done like every school I've ever been in every job I've ever had I find some scam right so I I uh scaned my way out of junior year and I said I'm going to go to Alaska because I want to see the frontier so I hitchhike from New York to Alaska had all these freaky Adventures as you can imagine right went to prison got shot sh at you know all this crazy [ __ ] happened and I met people along the way who picked me up especially like in the Yukon and in Alaska who were so [ __ ] kind yeah so competent they'd take me home I'd you know they'd feed me introduce me to the wife the kids that you know or women who'd stop and pick me up just trusting like hey whatever you know really self-sufficient people they built their own houses they had healthy relationships they knew how to fix their own car s they were really self-sufficient none of them knew anything about the fancy schmancy literature and philosophy that I was studying right like I I had you know the collected poems of DH Lawrence in my backpack and they'd never heard any of this [ __ ] right but when I compared them to my professor friends back at school and I was like wait a minute these people don't know any of this you know Elite knowledge but they're really happy people and they're healthy people and they have good Fai families and they're decent and they're kind and they're generous to me and then I imagine one of them you know stumbles into Princeton New Jersey or your where I was going to school and Upstate New York and my professor friends you know come upon them they'd they'd laugh at them they wouldn't help them they wouldn't be kind to them they would and my professor friends like had to call a [ __ ] electrician to change a light bulb right so it's like well what wait a minute what do what do I want to do in this life where am I going so that's when I just said all right [ __ ] it no grad school and I I wrote to the guy like sorry not going to Prince or Oxford not not going to do any of this till I'm 30 I'm not going to make a commitment to anything no job no woman no grad school no med school nothing I'm just going to
float around the world and have Adventures wow that's a [ __ ] cool story I love that idea that's a that's really cool I found that uh I didn't go to the Yukon but I went to Anchorage recently with with Ari right you guys went fishing we went fishing keenai peninsula H south of Anchorage um I quite honestly I don't remember I don't remember what river we were on I don't remember any of that we had a great time yeah uh we caught some salmon and we we did a show up there but I I felt that way as well about the people that there's there's a self-sufficiency to a lot of the folks that live up there that I mean even in Anchorage which is a city you know it's a real City they have you know hotels and gas stations and the whole deal movie theat we went to the movies there it was 10:00 at night it was bright out very weird weird it's weird the bars with no windows yeah you can't you can't have Windows cuz people are in there drinking you don't want to see the [ __ ] Sun come in your eye let you know what a loser you are exactly yeah and people will make better decisions if there's light on them we don't want that so do they still have like handgun permits where you have to leave your gun at the door when you go to the bar some places like a gun check yeah yeah you have to check your guns when you come in because everybody's got guns get shitfaced then you pick up your gun on your way out yeah that's the best time to get it after you've gotten an up bar argument exactly but you you you find people they're they were very kind and very cool and very competent as you were saying and they're just they're people that are also dealing with nature in a in a way different level yeah they're dealing with weather you know real weather yeah and we don't have to do that we especially in California which is the most ridiculous and [ __ ] state in the country as far as the way people behave on the norm don't get me wrong I love it here and there's a lot of cool people here and you know all my best friends are here but the reality of California is that we don't have to deal with weather at all the worst thing we have to do is press a button oh my God it's hot you press a button it's not hot anymore I mean it's really as long as the power stays on really not that
[ __ ] hard to deal but if you're living in Alaska you have to take precautions every year you have to keep a candle in the back of your car you have to keep matches you have to keep blankets with you at all times because your car could break down you could be at the side of the road no one could be on the road and that candle might keep you alive you have to light that candle in your car with all the doors shut and that's the only way you going to stay warm and stay alive like there's a there's a lot of that kind of thinking going on there and then when someone sees you pulled over to the side of the road they're not like oh who's this creepy [ __ ] you know in um Sherman Oaks that's pulled over to the side of the road with his hazards on I'm not stopping for this guy they're like oh who is this person this you know kindered soul out here in the middle of the woods that got [ __ ] and this could be me hey come on in um do you guys have cell phone service no if we drive five more miles we get cell phone service hop in the car I'll take you to where we can call somebody yeah yeah there's not but your your professor friends to not pick them up would be right where they live that's the crazy thing about it's like you're right that the professor was probably wouldn't pick up someone who was broken down the side of the road but they're right to and not doing that if you live in a city because you never know what the [ __ ] you're going to get EXA exactly yeah yeah you got to you got to participate in the world you're born into whether you agree with it or not yeah you know you're sorry to interrupt you that what you said about California that also ties to the origins of civilization actually in a funny way there one of the leading theories for why Europe became more advanced use in quotes right um is because people had to had to think twice there people they had winter so when you build a house it has to be better engineer the best Engineers you know the best cars German you know they're not Italian because in in architecture and all the stuff you see in Europe the the the Mediterranean countries are sloppy right the the the houses aren't insulated they're not the the fittings aren't right you know people like show up late the whole mentality is kind of
lazy fair whatever well that's the weather it's a reflection of the weather it's a reflection of the fact that they're not battling weather for their lives right so there is a competence and a sort of carefulness and a you know checklist if you're a pilot you use a checklist because if you don't you're you're a dead pilot you know it's like that in Northern climates as well it develops a certain kind of approach to life that's much more competent and then on the other hand you got places like Brazil where the weather's fantastic and the people are like laughing and they're on the beach they're smiling and very friendly and very warm and that's also because they don't have to they don't have to deal with any [ __ ] they're all wearing flipflops I mean nobody has to worry about nothing it's no matter what the the you know time of the year is it never gets cold you know there's people in Rio that are surfing 24 hours a day 7 days a week they can do whatever they want there's no sharks down there either I think recently someone got bit by a shark in Brazil was like a really really rare situation so they're like surfing and perfect water it's like bath water beautiful waves H hot hot hot everything's great I know you like verer Herzog uh you ever see a documentary called bus 107 I think it's called it's a it's not Vera Herzog but it's a it's a documentary that will blow your [ __ ] mind I know you're into Grizzly Man too love it yeah oh the music in Grizzly Man oh no no I'm thinking of into the wild oh yeah uh yeah anyway uh this this film is it bus 107 is that coming up it's bus one something I don't remember which number but it's a Brazilian documentary and it's available with subtitles it's about this guy who tries to hijack a bus whoa and his idea is just to like uh grab some money and jump off the bus but but there's some cops going by and they stop and the bus gets surrounded and then suddenly it's like well it's not at all what he intended he didn't intend to be on this bus with 30 people holding them all hostage but now he's there and then the TV cameras show up and their helicopters and their TV Crews all around and it turns into this like national day where everyone in Brazil is watching this dude on the bus live
coverage wow you know it's like the OJ you know bus 174 174 for highly recommended documentary uh for insights into bra Brazilian life and just something you you you'll never see it's like Grizzly Man in the sense that there's a lot of uh actual footage used in the documentary so you get the interviews and stuff but then you've got the the the footage that the TV Crews were were taking at the time there he is yeah wow it's very intense wow that's [ __ ] okay I'll check that out yeah yeah um I think that a certain amount of nature having to deal with a certain amount of adversity develops character it's one of the issues that I have with Modern Life As far as like people just getting a nice safe job is that you're you're you don't really have to deal with too much adversity yeah there's not there's not a lot of risk involved not a lot of fear and parents like that for their children like take a safe job Johnny you know there's you know you get in the union you got a good good career there good government job yeah but when you do that you when you reduce those risks you also reduce the excitement of life you take away some of the the thrill of life and my whole life I've been a thrilled junkie you know in in more ways than one I've avoided the the the fear like the drugs and the things that can really [ __ ] up your life I've avoided all those because I've I've seen them happen before but if I didn't avoid them I for sure would have got hooked on something you know I'm I'm I'm a crazy person you have an addictive personality [ __ ] yeah for sure sure 100% yeah but I funnel it into being addicted to positive things like I get addicted to martial arts or I get addicted to standup comedy or I get addicted to you know things that I like but those um the they're Thrills that's what I'm addicted to I'm addicted to like martial arts one of the things about it that was so exciting is regular life became so much more manageable when four or five days a week I was fighting for my life it's like was a reality of of a Mad Scramble with some crazy brown belt who's got a a nasty guard and you guys are doing battle he's trying to choke the blood out of your neck you know and because of that everything else I would do would be so much less threatening yeah and so much more in context it would it would
give it a context and it would give it a perspective and it also cleanses the mind to be terrified yes I mean I I rode a motorcycle for years in Spain I had a BMW God Spain I wrote it every day every night that's so crazy uh yeah I used it for work how many accidents uh you know what a lot of near misses uh some crazy near misses but I never dropped it wow that's amazing I've dropped other motorcycles I almost died on a motorcycle in uh well I almost died on that one but that's another story but the the first time I almost I took a bike a trail bike I laid it down and slid under a barb wire fence oh my god when I was like 14 oh my God that could have just shredded you and then the time the next time I was in Thailand I was in changai Thailand and I rented this uh Suzuki 185 like a small light bike and I did like a six- day trip around the Golden Triangle in Northwest Thailand which borders Burma and la and it's where like 80% of the heroin in the world comes from that's also where I tried heroin which was a weird time but uh did you try injection or did you try I smoked it smok I met these two British guys oh it was such a weird thing man I was and I remember exactly when it was because I got up early like 7 o'clock in the morning to watch Mike Tyson fight James Bone Crusher Smith oh I remember that so and it was being shown in this little bar cafe in changai near where I was staying and I got up early cuz I wanted to see it and these two British dudes and me were the only ones there so I got to and they were junkies and they were like super high class dudes like one of them his uncle was in Parliament and the other was the son of a very famous writer whose book I had read actually wow um I won't say his name but uh very well known he won the booker prize and big deal anyway these these two were junkies and they were in so the one dude was in uh Thailand ostensibly to be uh an actor in the taping of good morning the filming of Good Morning Vietnam the Robin Williams film that they were taping at the time in Bangkok that was the story he gave his parents [ __ ] he was just getting high all the time and then his friend was like I got to go save him and then so he came and now he's getting high all the time and I met the two of them at this Mike Tyson fight and so and I had always
you know my my thing about drugs is I'm not I don't have an addictive personality I'm too lazy to be addictive honestly really so I I do things I get the thrill out of it and I try to be careful about it and you know I like to do things in the place that it comes from right I've done iasa in Brazil and piote in Mexico and so I'm in Northern Thailand and changai it's going to be the cleanest best quality heroin ever and I meet these two guys and they're into it and they've got all the contacts and all that and uh so they we got to be friends and uh you know they invited me to to get high and I was like okay look I've never done this before they no no we got you no worries no so we're sitting in their room and we did the chase the dragon you know where you put the heroin on tin foil and you because the flame can't touch the heroin it's like it'll ruin it yeah I can't go to prison for saying this right talking about this this is all but you know what non-americans if you admit that you have ever used illegal drugs they can they stamp your passport you're never low in the country I know have two friends that happened to so if you're in another country and you start talking about using drugs like on another podast they can well I don't know I don't know about podcast but what happened with his friend she was coming back from Amsterdam she was a a judge in the Cannabis Cup competition she lives in Vancouver and the plane she changed planes in Seattle and they took her and said so what were you doing in Amsterdam and she told them and they said so have you smoked marijuana she said yeah and they stamped her passport she's never allowed in the US again wow because she smoked marijuana in Amsterdam wow and another guy I know is a psychiat atrist a Canadian psychiatrist who had worked with LSD Psychotherapy and they stopped him at the the drive-through border you know at Vancouver and interviewed him they they Wikipedi him and they're like oh you did uh research with LSD have you ever used LSD he said yeah stamp wow dud never allowed in the country that's crazy that's is that only America as far as I know Canada's rough if you get a drunk driving in America good luck getting in Canada oh really oh yeah yeah a lot of a lot of Fighters have issues
getting into Canada for fights a lot of comedians have issues a lot of comedians have had issues getting into the Montreal Comedy Festival which is one of the big events for standup comedians because of drunk driving conv because of drunk driving convictions any domestic violence or anything like that yeah Eddie Bravo had um an arrest for having a gun on him legally okay he was uh working for a check cashing place and he used to have to carry large sums of cash in his car to another location and so he would leave with the check cashing company and he had a registered concealed carry permit for a gun and so uh he got pulled over for something and he had to tell the uh the cop officer uh I work for a check cashing company I have a legal registered handgun in my car right now it's loaded and then they go okay hold on a second we're going to put you in handcuffs we're going to run this so they they run it they go okay checks out they let them go because it it was not even supposed to be on his record because it was all legal doesn't matter every time he goes Canada they sit him down tell us about this you have a gun inside you right now you take a gun you should to go for de border no no no no no no no no no I was I was working for a company I was allowed to have this like it cut he's got an extra hour every time he goes into Canada that happened to me actually push in Immigration going into Canada what' you get a what was your issue well they asked me if I'd ever been convicted of a crime and I said no and you know I go sit down and then they call me over and they said uh the guy's like um you said you'd never been convicted of a crime correct I said yeah he said is there anything you'd like to say about Fairbanks Alaska in 1983 and I was like uh yeah I got busted in Fairbanks you know for eating a Snickers bar in a [ __ ] grocery store and not paying for it and but I did you three days it was Memorial Day weekend I did three four nights in the prison and then the guy said you know 20 hours of community service and this will disappear from your record and you if you don't get arrested in a year so I always say no cuz that's I wasn't convicted of anything and and they said it would be taken from my record and the guy's like NOP the fact that you were not Alaskan so you're from out of state
meant they couldn't strike it from your record so and it's on your FBI record which is what we get in Canada he Snicker Thief yeah I'm a Snicker Thief so he's a cool guy I did four days in a f in a federal medium security prison with no underwear for for Snickers for Snickers what do you mean with no underwear were you wearing anything or just naked I was uh wearing short why tell us that yeah why didn't you have pants at the groceries why did you tell us about no underwear because it makes it more harrowing come on man I was I was 19 years old yeah were you like very twinkish I was twinky I was very twinky yeah so you were worried it was all going to go down I mean I would have been worried if I were wearing you know what anything you know survival suit yeah is that even isn't that under the amount of money that they could even bust you for something maybe not in the 80s Reagan was in president they were trying to [ __ ] be tough on crime just say no yeah and also I had a I mean what happened was we got in from this 10day hitch with these two guys I'd met on the ferry coming up the Inside passage and we had this long hitch through the Yukon Territory all this crazy [ __ ] and and we get to Fairbanks so the first place we go is the laundromat because we stank right we didn't have that special soap your defense soap defense soap and uh so we went to the laundry room mat we put everything possible in the washer so all three of us were wearing shorts with no underwear boots with no socks and a jacket with no shirt and then one of the guys was like oh he wanted to go to the grocery store because there was a pay fund he was going to call his girlfriend to let her know that he' arrived on time and I was like [ __ ] it I'll go over with you and the other guy's going to stay with the bags our backpacks and all that [ __ ] and you know watch the clothes so I went with him somebody was on the phone we started pushing a card around we were like you know Soviet immigrants like oh so many kinds of you know food here cuz we'd been living in the woods eating nuts and chocolate and LSD for the last 10 days and so he he opened a a thing of kefir first time I'd ever heard of kefir which is like liquid yogurt yeah and drank that great for your body acidophilus oh yeah and I uh I for some reason ate a Snickers bar even though
I'd been eating chocolate not much imagination there and then we he used the phone we ditched the cart and we left and so there some security guy had seen us and turned into a thing this cop showed up and I had a knife in my boot and some grass in my pocket both of which were legal at the time in Alaska but it was enough to make this cop not like me at all and he was like this you know he Napoleonic cop kind of situation and he didn't like smartass college kids from outside coming into Alaska in the summer stealing Snickers bars [ __ ] around yeah [ __ ] around with kefir so he took us handcuffed us and took us to prison Fairbanks Correctional Center did you not have the money for this Snickers bar yeah we had plenty of money you just didn't want to pay for it but it was like well you tell it to the magistrate Oh Oh you mean for that no that was just like I don't know what the [ __ ] that just young we just dumb and you know and maybe there was a line or something I don't remember but it was we pretended we were shopping so we put like dog food and [ __ ] in the cart you know and we ate our stuff and put the the package like we were going to pay for it when we checked out right right right so I I don't know what we were just being dumb but uh yeah so we ended up being taken to this prison and I had a pipe too yeah cuz I remember when we were did the intake the guy that like the prison dude who booked us and you know did the whole intake thing I I was joking with him I was like yeah I'm not going to get that pipe and grass back am I and he was like I don't think so man I was like well you know wouldn't bother me if it just disappeared and was never even registered because grass is hard to come by in Alaska right was then and so we sort of had a little understanding like I'm cool you're cool cuz he was like what the [ __ ] if Snickers bar why would this guy what's wrong with that cop did you like hit him or something like no you know he just had a hair up his ass right so this guy was cool he saved us cuz what he did was he said look I'm not going to put you guys in with the general population you're going to sleep in the gym at night you got some CS you sleep in the gym you never let the other one out of your sight the whole time you're here you go to to the bathroom together you
go to the showers together you watch each other's back and you'll get through it all right W and we did and it was wild and this was like 83 I guess and um so the there's a lot of money in Alaska right from all the oil so the prison was plush it was like every meal was all you can eat really salad bar whole wheat rolls white Rolls Wednesday was prime rib day where the cops could pay a buck to eat with the prisoners really yeah but the catch was you only had 20 minutes each meal so I remember like one day we're sitting there at this table and we're like 19 maybe TW maybe 20 something like that we're we're sitting at this table and the guy across the table looked like Charles um Bronson you remember him the stash and the tats and all that and we were just like this dude was shoveling it in and he looks up at one point he says this is the best [ __ ] prison I've ever been in yeah yikes he's got a laundry list of prisons that don't don't meet that criteria the standard yeah he he his story was he found a dude with his wife and he beat him with a lead pipe and he didn't know if he was dead but as soon as it happened he got in his car from like New Mexico or Arizona he got in his car and drove to Alaska wow because he knew he'd get picked up and he wanted to get picked up in Alaska because he'd heard the prisons were much better that's hilarious so he might have beat a guy to death and said the way to deal with this is to go to a place has awesome prisons and that place just happens to be on the exact opposite of the continent that's [ __ ] far as [ __ ] long to drive to Alaska can you actually drive straight to Alaska the Alcan Highway whoa what is that like it's bumpy or at least it was in the H yeah yeah cuz you know every winter it gets all torn up yeah how many lanes is it most of it's two lanes one on each side so you can get stuck behind some [ __ ] that wants to go 40 mph well you there's a lot lot of passing I mean it's it's a lot of it's just flat and cuz like the yukon's tundra right it's just like being you know it's just flat scrub plants I can't imagine someone driving all the way the [ __ ] to Alaska that just seems insane I just drove to LA from Vancouver by way of Utah Jes just how long did that take 10 days but I mean we stopped and went hiking in Utah you made
a trip out of it yeah how many hours was it actual driving I don't I don't know it's about 6,000 kilometers I think which is around what 4,000 miles something like that 3,800 yeah something like that I think it's 2.2 per yeah yeah 2.2 kilm per mile something along those lines 100 kmers is 60 miles that it is something yeah like 60 M hour is 100 kilom 62 62 miles hour yeah that's uh Utah's great yeah Utah is amazing it's so beautiful man Moab oh yeah we were in Moab and then i' I've been wanting to go to Moab since the early 80s because I read this book called desert solitire by Edward Abbey you ever read that book ah it's a great book essay is about the desert he's like a Edward Abbey was like a a redneck philosopher hippie I mean he he just integrated these world he was like a like who's the singer Willie Nelson he was like a willly Nelson kind of author you know like country guys from Pennsylvania originally but he moved out west in the 60s and got a job as a fire lookout in uh Arch's National Monument or one of those Parks or maybe was Canyon lands right there and I spent the summer by himself in this house you know just with his incredible view looking for lightning strikes and uh and he wrote about he wrote essays and the book became this cult Word of Mouth classic it's probably sold a million copies by now wow it's it's a great book so I'd wanted to go there since I read that book in the early 80s and uh this was the first chance I got and man it's amazing so I have a good buddy who was uh living outside of Salt Lake for a while and then he had to move to Arizona and he [ __ ] hates it he had to move there for work but he just ranted and raved about how great Utah was and then I went up there this winter go skiing for the first time I suck at skiing that's beside the point it's it's so beautiful up there so goddamn gorgeous Rolling Hills and then we were there this summer um we went there the winter to ski and then I was there this summer um filming the TV show the Sci-Fi show one of the things we did was in in Utah and everything was [ __ ] green and gorgeous and you just get to see what it looks like when it's not covered in snow it's like oh my God this is Paradise go to the Red Rock country yeah down down Moab you know the
Arches it's just the it's just phenomenally beautiful there still some sweet spots in this country yeah I mean the the thing for me I I I [ __ ] on America a lot anyone who follows my Twitter feed sees me bitching about America constantly but the thing America's Got That Europe doesn't have is just incredible natural beauty and large scale you know it's not some little Park you know like the Grand Canyon yosity yeah I mean but there're just massive chunks of amazing all these parks around Moab are amazing Alaska the whole [ __ ] state is just off the charts man yeah really nice we were in um Seattle for uh the Sci-Fi show and Duncan and I went to mount rineer yeah and we drove uh by the way it's only like 50 miles outside of Seattle you're in the mountains and from Seattle it's like it's like a cloud it's it's massive massive gorgeous and just it sort of highlights that City I think it's one of the reasons why that city is so cool it's got the ocean there to keep you humble and then it's got this massive Mountain it's like listen [ __ ] you ain't [ __ ] relax yeah but when we drove up there I mean Duncan and I just could not stop like rolling down the window and just sticking our heads out go God is this real it's so gorgeous just deep rich green with like low clouds everywhere because you know you're pretty high altitude up there in the mountains and it's just the fog and the clouds and the trees and it's just so alive and the air you feel like you could eat it is that when you were squatching we were squatching yes it's a technical term glad you used that it's like I I follow your your movements yeah people who are not Squatch enthusiasts don't you know they don't know the right terms they might say you were out big footing that's not correct no we were squatching no big footing that's snowshoeing you might be out wasting your time hey easy well one of the things that the guy said that uh we went squatching with this guy John uh Steve very very cool guy the the both guys we went with were very very nice guys they seemed cool actually in the show yeah very very cool pretty pretty chill yeah and well one of the things that they said was like look man even if there's no Bigfoot we're still out here camping
yeah we're we're having a good time it's beautiful Woods that we're in and like I like that that attitude well that's what people say about fishing you know and hunting as well although it sounds like your your trip wasn't as enjoyable sitting in a freezer but it was enjoyable still I liked it I like I like suffer in a little bit I thinked to to get the [ __ ] out in the woods you know and hang out with your buddies and you know have a good time the guy owned the land his name is Doug um he took me to this one spot we went uh hunting and uh I went up in the tree stand and he he likes to do a lot of his hunting walking around and so he said uh let's let's split up for a little bit I'll go this way you sit in the tree stand and maybe if me walking around sometimes it'll scare a deer towards you um and uh when I was sitting there was just me alone for like an hour and there wasn't a single sound every now and then I'd hear like a little squirrel chip but there was no TV cameras this time we had F basically finished filming what we need to film for the show so just me sitting up there in the stand like looking around waiting for a deer to show up but just soaking in the beauty of the Woods and it's the driftless area of Wisconsin which means it's the area the glaciers didn't flatten out so it's all hilly and gorgeous and woodsy everywhere and just creeks and you know just God damn it it's [ __ ] beautiful just [ __ ] beautiful and quiet and peaceful and I felt like just sitting there for an hour did me good just like it cleaned me out somehow like it cleaned my my spirit you know yeah there you mentioned weather earlier and we were talking about you know the the the cleanliness of fear yeah and it there's something about weather that I find deeply relaxing like strong like a storm a tropical storm a hurricane you know I I'm like one of those guys I would tie myself to a tree and just like watch the hurricane come through well you can't do that then you get hit in the face by a car that that's the downside yeah feel like tied a [ __ ] tree comes by and takes your head off you shouldn't do that you can't duck yeah but I I agree with you though like as long as I know it's not life-threatening a good Thunders shower is beautiful well even if it is life-threatening I mean that's even more
cleansing because it's good to be [ __ ] terrified a little bit it's good to it's I mean for me anything that reminds me of how insignificant I am is really liberating yeah and the problem is when when I get caught up in my ego and you know the whatever the [ __ ] is that I need to deal with and blah blah blah blah blah and I forget how you know it's like the football coach who who you know doesn't isn't smart enough to know how little it all matters you know it's like I never want to forget how little it all matters then you're then you're screwed I agree with you 100% I think it's really important I think as we were saying about weather that dealing with weather is is important too just to know that you you're humbled by Nature upon occasion it's one of the things I like about when it rains in LA and everybody has to go oh okay yeah this could happen too yeah there people that complain about it but I I love the fact that they're introduced to the reality of the fact that you're living on a planet with an EOS system and it's variable it's very variable right yeah something that that cuts through your I mean I used still love it when the lightsy and yeah and your you know the infrastructure that yeah your complacency exactly I mean one of the cool things in I've lived in India for for months at a stretch and one of the cool things there is that electricity would go out like constantly you know that's so cool yeah no it's not no it is cool [ __ ] terrible that sucks your food goes bad while they're all covered in flies sucks keep me keep me from going there please you never been to India no no oh dude you got to got to hit India I don't though that's what's interesting you don't I don't I don't I like Indian food I love Indian food I [ __ ] love it yeah there's a dish named after me lamb Rogan Josh oh it's not lame after me just happens to have name wait I had that last night it's delicious and somebody oh [ __ ] someone last night told me that story showed me that recipe in her cookbook and said that something about about the person who named it got you confused with Seth Rogan or something or Josh somebody no it's an old it's an an old dish yes no what the hell was that [ __ ] story [ __ ] [ __ ] oh my God you're hanging out with a
monkey that dish has been around forever yeah yeah I'm let's find out how long lamb Rogan Josh remind me I was I was hanging with this really sweet woman in Vancouver one night and uh LEL lady Lei came on and she said do you know wrote that song for his dog I said I said what and she said yeah his dog's name was Lady and he wrote the song for the dog okay this is you know her ex-boyfriend had told her that this is from Persia it's uh one of the signature recipes of Kashmir Cuisine Rogan means clarified butter or fat in Persian while Josh means heat hot boiling or passionate Rogan Josh thus means cooked in oil at intense heat another interpretation of of the name Rogan Josh is derived der derived from the word Rogan meaning red color uh the same Indo-European root that is the source of the French Rogue and the Spanish Rogue Rojo uh and Josh meaning passion or heat so there you go so this is old [ __ ] man this is like not named after you no no she's an [ __ ] she should do a Google search before she [ __ ] spreads her nonsense it's not me or that beautiful Seth Rogan fellow which by the way uh I watched uh his last movie um this is the end I just watched holy [ __ ] is that funny there are some there are some [ __ ] funny funny funny moments in that movie but gu how good is Craig Robinson that movie Craig Robinson Michael sah is my favorite the co guy that addicted the C oh he was great too everybody double [ __ ] in the bathroom how about Kenny Powers how about Kenny Powers oh my God it's a [ __ ] amazing movie awesome scary yeah yeah yeah but fun man they're all just taking the piss out of themselves that's what I love about it you know they're all like I love how Craig Robinson has a towel everywhere he goes He sweat so much which which is so true about Craig in real life you know he's always got a towel on stage with him oh that was really really funny movie man that was a good did I ever tell you there's this one video of like a fight that broke out in like a gymnasium and everyone used even used to have towels more back then cuz like with the towel thing is kind of new like in the like last 10 years Like Rappers started having towels all the time and stuff and the the towel thing is new yeah like like where they just carry
around towel the all the time you never SE that yeah so there was this fight that broke out in this gymnasium and they showed the video lasted to like everyone got out of the gymnasium and on the ground was just towels and the stickers from people's hats it was so hilarious it looked like it was a joke that's hilarious a big rap battle with towels stickers yeah remember when they used to wait like wear the the tag on their hat hat yeah hanging from their hat like Min Pearl from the old opy she was the original gangster Pearl from the grand opy she always had a tag on her hat man I don't know what that was about did you hear about that that that waitress in New Jersey that oh my God yes it's a [ __ ] gross story you know the story uh not yet about the uh the lesbian woman she was working as a waitress in this she got some nasty note yeah she got some nasty note that said we not going to leave tip cuz we don't agree with your lifestyle apparently it's a hoax no yes and the family yes the family started getting [ __ ] so the family brought in the actual original receipt you know how you get uh a customer copy and a merchant copy yeah well the customer copy was the one that she left but the merchant copy she left blank you know sometimes people [ __ ] up and they fill out the wrong one well they had the customer copy they had a copy of it they like they saved it and the merchant copy I don't know if somebody Photoshopped it I don't know what the [ __ ] happened you can reprint these out so all she did is just reprint it out and then write it on and she wrote on it in a hoax to try to draw attention to herself and people have been sending her money and Stu yes thousands and thousands of dollars that she was going to use and she was going to send to something else and you know I mean I don't know if who knows I mean we're accusing her of hoaxing it but it might have been something that her her her staff did right it could have been a hoax on her no one knows and so I think it's we shouldn't we shouldn't definitely not accuse someone or you know say that she did it or she was a liar but somebody [ __ ] hoax what's interesting is that I don't know if you heard the family uh said that the only thing they could
think of is that the the hostess says Dana is going to be or Dan's going to be your ho uh waiter and'll be here in a second and then when she came up they go oh you're definitely not a Dan you know or something like that because her real name's Dana and uh so she kind of might have took take it as oh they're calling me a guy you know and that's why she got mad at these people man yeah but that still doesn't mean you should hoax that and write a fake I mean so did they actually did leave her a tip yes they left her uh 20% or 18% St yeah they they left her like the right amount it reminds me like five years ago I read this story in the international Herald Tribune about a guy this relates to what we were saying earlier a rich guy millionaire big house who decided to give it all up and uh you know give everything away and live a simple life cuz that that was happy it would make him happier and this and that right so when I started uh working on civilized to death I found I had this clipping that I had kept for years and I so I Googled the dude to see you know what's happened with this guy is he still happy or does he get another job what's going on turns out it the whole thing was a hoax oh wow that he owed a bunch of money and he went and he figured out that he would get more money if he auctioned his house so what he did was he said like and he went to a public relations company and they came up with this whole plan wow that like he was going to renounce his wealth and all that but really behind the scenes he had to make money to pay off creditors whatever it was and the guy's going around the world still giving talks charging lots of money to give talks about how wonderful it is to give up all your money it's all a [ __ ] hoax oh my God that's hilarious that's hilarious this family apparently not only were they not homophobic they actually wouldn't vote for Governor Christie because he didn't agree with gay marriage so this family was very Progressive right so it's like you know she [ __ ] whoever did it [ __ ] up [ __ ] the wrong people well they just did something gross they did something gross and fake but that's the world that we live in man you know until we figure out how to tell whether or not people are lying we're going to be dealing with
this nonsense for a long time well she's the one that came out and said look what these people said and put on her Instagram or whatever she did and and that's actually a good point and so that that showed the wrong amount on there m and so they have a credit card statement like going no this is the right amount here is my actual copy receipt so she had to have done it most most likely unless someone tricked her and took the good bill away and then rote on the other one a fake signature when they have to find out the signatures match and then wrote on the one with a fake signature find out who the [ __ ] wrote that like they have handwriting experts yeah they could tell if it's a woman's writing or a man's writing or transgender hey easy a cabbie could be a Cab's writing cabby yeah I don't know you know I think I think you're gonna have bigots for sure you're always going to have bigots but you're also always going to have like people that are crying out for attention and pretend they they've been a victim of bigotry you're going to have rape but you're also going to have false rape accusations too it's like that's one of the reasons why I'm I'm really against gender uh identity in the fact that not gender identity but sticking with your gender like uniformly and Prejudiced like always I'm on team penis you know I think that's ridiculous I think sticking with your race just as ridiculous sticking with your nationality equally ridiculous I've met fantastic people in England I've met some awesome folks in Canada it's it's stupid it's like to categorize people or to like I'm a [ __ ] Patriots fan and those giants could suck it you it's the same thing you're doing the same thing and it it's dumb and it's just as dumb on on all sides and until that's resolved you're going to always have this these cloudy situations until it's impossible for someone to rape a woman which is never going to happen probably until you know we figure out there's no I mean there's a lot of steps before there's any no violence and no rape there going to be a lot of steps before there's no theft it's going to be it's going probably we're not going to see it in our lifetime but it's possible and that's the only way we're going to have like
real Harmony and these I don't know necessarily how much like Pro vagina or Pro men's rights groups I don't know how much those things [ __ ] help anybody they create dialogue I guess but I think they also like they divide in a lot of ways and they you know when people hear the word feminist they almost automatically think Oh She [ __ ] hates men they're just really into women it it creates like a rift when you hear men's rights organization what do you think I think misogynists I think fat lazy misogynists who women don't like so they come up with a bunch of reasons why women suck yeah you know and that's not necessarily correct on either side but it's still that's the automatic stereotype that waitress who lied about anti-gay tip has told far worse lies she she used to tell her friends that that she had survived brain cancer that she did uh when in Afghanistan and all her uh people and her Army thing blew up and she was the only Survivor which she never even toured in Afghanistan she kicked out of pretty incriminating that's not good let's get off her I don't want to [ __ ] dwell on that that poor soul you know I I agree with what you're saying I I think that the the source of all this all these problems is scale it gets back to population levels and and the size of communities right have you ever heard of dunbar's number yes yeah so when you get above dunbar's number other people become abstractions right it be Stalin who 150 people right Stalin said one death is a tragedy a million deaths is a statistic right so it's and it it does become like that so if you're you know like in her case she might say well I wasn't lying to anybody I didn't know those people right I you know people are sending me money they obviously they can spare it you know and I need it and you know you can make all sorts of excuses because you're not talking directly to the person you [ __ ] right you know right whereas when and it's the same thing in the legal system you get minimum mandatory sentencing you know so all these people are going away to [ __ ] prison for 15 years to life for you know and the judge is like this dude's sitting right in front of me I know I can see this person as an individual he doesn't deserve this right you know but because it's
institutionalized I have to do it and so I I really think that as long as we're living in these massive societies where we're constantly dealing with people we don't know in any personal way there's always going to be that sense of emptiness and and the abuse of trust yeah I think you're 100% right I think uh have a real hard time dealing with large numbers of people you get this this weird Detachment like I was saying about Jimmy Norton living in this box with a thousand people that he doesn't know this this and also I wanted to get back to this we were talking about earlier about New York after the Twin Towers yeah we filmed Fear Factor in New York and I think it was 2002 or maybe 2003 at the latest and it was palpable how friendly people were and what a change it had made and what a sense of community we had a woman who was with us who may or may not have smoked some of my weed and uh she was uh one of the crew and uh may or may not have been ready for some of my weed and blacked out and actually fainted on the street and we had a catcher like uh as we were all sitting around I'm like you guys want to get H maybe allegedly I said that and we went outside and um she she literally lost Consciousness so the firemen came and when the fireman came over first of all they could have been more friendly and uh you know they were really nice to her and everything but the amount of love the firemen were getting from people on the street like waving to them honking at them you know like uh said just yelling shouting nice things across the street you know somebody yelled something about you I love First Responders or something something along those lines and they waved to them and there was like this this feeling of appreciation and camaraderie think about the American soldiers going into France World War II the amount of Love they were getting oh yeah yeah yeah man yeah save us from this [ __ ] horor yeah I mean it's real life and that's the thing man we can go through an entire lifetime without ever really experiencing real life we don't see death I mean I don't know how many dead bodies you've seen but you know I think my grandmother is the only dead body I ever saw and I had to kiss her on the [ __ ] lips which was pretty creepy yeah I saw my grandfather yeah same same
sort of situation do you ever you know this mortician ask a mortician uh kly Caitlyn Dodie she would be a funny guest for you to meet or just to hang out she's like a hip young sexy mortician she's got a show called ask a mortician that's like gets hundreds of thousands of hits a hip young sexy mortician okay ask a mortician ask that sounds ridiculous yeah I had her on on my podcast she was fantastic she's she's just fascinated by death and uh yeah there she is whoa she is pretty hot she damn she's hot from martition but still that's just so weird yeah do it her story is cool man how how cool could it really be well she's I mean it's really cool because you know the thing is we come to these moments in our lives where we have to face death and we get some creepy dude in a bad suit you know selling us overpriced by the way what's going on with a $1,000 hermetically sealed stainless steel coffin what the [ __ ] are we saying with that yeah we're saying we're ripping you off yeah Joey Diaz has a good line on that because his one of his buddies that he went to school with uh his family owned funeral Po and uh they're just pretty open about what a ripoff it is and how they scam you and how they get you in in Period where you're in great grief and they say you know wouldn't you like to represent your family in a very beautiful way and we can offer this fantastic Walnut line coffin this is the finest velour interior oh finest vour and you know these people they're they're they don't want to feel bad that they're not taking care of their loved ones so they spend insane amounts of money and then there's a scam where even if you want to um to accreate someone you still have to embal the body so they have to embal the body prepare it for preservation and you know the embalming Caitlyn and I talked about this that's American nobody else embalms B really yeah this whole like take out the blood put in toothpaste that's American and you know where it came from where Civil War really yeah because they wanted to so many guys are dying and their families wanted to bury the body back home on the farm you know so the guy dies down in you know wherever Georgia they have to get the body back to Pennsylvania it's going to rot you know because it's going in a wagon behind a horse or something
so that's when they they started the embalming thing so they could get the bodies back home and it just it just took off and became an American tradition and it became also one of those things where it becomes part of the system you know once once something is in the system it becomes an issue where it's really difficult to change that it becomes you know it's like one of the problems with making drugs illegal it's like well okay what about all these people that make their living off arresting people for drugs right you know and that's one of the main issues with as far as lobbying is concerned is police guard or prison guard unions prison guard unions spend a lot of money to make sure that certain drugs remain legal or illegal and and the companies that make these private prisons who you know the state has to guarantee them a 98% occupancy rate so you got to come up with the bodies oh my God that's so [ __ ] crazy a funny example of that is in Spain funny but you know the less tragic I guess example in Spain they've got an industry of dubbing films and TV shows so like and it's really Advanced so like the guy who does Woody Allen always does Woody Allen so Spanish people associate that voice with Woody Allen and apparently it's a real art form right whereas in Portugal subtitles it's everything's been subtitled forever so that there's no tradition of dubbing there's no dubbing industry in Portugal so you go to Portugal everybody speaks English the guy checking you you know taking your money at the gas station speaks English because he grew up watching American programming with Portuguese subtitles hearing the V the the voices speaking English right just pick it up Spain nobody speaks English so people like me go there and make a lot of money teaching English because they've got this stupid dubbing system so they're probably like two dozen three dozen people make a living doing this and they're completely [ __ ] the entire country just so they don't lose their jobs you know that's fascinating yeah hundreds of millions of Euros spent if not billions on English classes and it's completely unnecessary just get rid of those 30 guys who make a living dubbing it's and everybody will have to learn English or not well they won't have to
learn it cuz they they'll grow up watching it on TV and hearing it wow yeah that's wild yeah there's a lot of weird things like that where something becomes a part of the system and even though it's illogical it just remains because it's a Trad keyboard right in front of you yeah Cordy yeah yeah folks don't know explain that well the the keyboard the the layout of the keyboard the placement of the letters is the way it is because of frequency of use and and so they tried to to space the letters out so that you wouldn't hit two letters that were next to each other that were arm came up on the typewriter so that the arms would tangle so they tried to make it so that the the arms that came up would be spaced out so they laid out the keyboard that way so it's a very inefficient way to have a keyboard because it's not it's based upon the demands of a machine that no longer exists it's not based upon ease of use right which I mean really that's a metaphor for society in general is what I've been saying the whole time you know like the interest of the Corporation the interests of these institutions supersede the interest of the person so people always say to me when I get into these arguments about human nature like yeah but we're people we can decide you know we can Free Will y y y but you know you do want a shoe that's more or less shaped like a foot right if your shoe Strays too far from the shape of a foot you're [ __ ] right yeah and so the yeah the keyboard's a good example of that have they made one that's like oh this would be the yeah oh yeah there's a much more efficient key layout but the problem is you would have to first of all you'd have to change your key you'd have to bring it to a place and get it done or you get a if you have a an actual external keyboard you can get it and learn it but it's it's really weird and you have to relearn yeah you know yeah so there's this vested interest yeah this is like I can type pretty goddamn fast and I don't have to look at it I could just do it like well I'm talking to you as long as I feel those little Nubs on the F and the J I'm I'm good to go yeah but I know where the system is I know where everything is yeah apparently though it's not the best way and the other way is like statistically quite a bit faster
it's like Esperanto what's that Esperanto is this um like an artificial language that was invented I think late 19th century not ebonics do you know that I on my resume I have ebonics to English translator that's good moveie I have been paid really to I have been paid to translate from ionics to English so you're like that lady on the movie Airplane I speak exactly this friend of mine was uh how much did you get paid for that I got paid pretty I mean whatever it was back when I was teaching English in Spain I was living in Barcelona this friend of mine was Spanish woman was a translator for an independent film festival that they have every year in Barcelona called in edit and uh so she calls me up and she says hey Chris um do you do you understand black people and I thought she meant conceptually you know like like yeah you know definitely I some you know whatever uh as much as I understand anyone and she's like no no the way they talk like oh yeah whatever so the story was that that year the films were all about the original uh Bop guys the origins of hip hop in Brooklyn in the 70s I guess and Delta bluesmen and so these Spanish translators who spoke English very very well would listen to these dudes and they couldn't understand what they were saying so they had me come down that first they had called a black guy but he was British and he didn't understand them right so then they're like well I know a white guy but he's American so I my job was to go down sit there next to a translator watch this DVD with the pause thing and just you know pause like you know the dude would be like yeah we're up in my crib and it's like stop that means they went back to his apartment like continue I didn't even have to translated into Spanish I also was the in-house editor and translator for the biggest porn company in the world waa private yeah in-house translator and editor yeah so you had to translate American porn to in to Spanish I TR again what I pretty much did in that job was translate from Bad English to to better English because they had someone else who would like do the rough translation and then they'd email me the documents and I just had to go through and clean it up and they're funny things like for example in
German tail the word tail refers to penis so I remember one of the first ones I was translating it was like for some hardcore porn mag you know and and there were two dudes wagging their tails yeah and one of the dudes or the woman looked at the dudes and was and was like oh you guys have nice Tails or nice tail and I was like whoa wait a minute in English tails you know the woman it's completely different anyway that was a that was a weird gig that was that was the gig that strangely enough led me to meet Paulo quo the Brazilian writer you know him he wrote The Alchemist like the bestselling book in the history of humanity what what is The Alchemist about The Alchemist is this um is a story about uh the prod prodigal son it's it's what Joseph Campbell called the hero with a thousand faces right it's a guy born in southern Spain uh has goes on a quest goes through Northern Africa meets all these characters and they give him challenges and tests and things and then he goes through the test and he goes back home and he finds the treasure he was looking for all the time right the Odyssey it's the same story it's not a good book I'm not recommending it it just sold more books than any book since the bible really yeah it's a huge bestseller wow Pao quo is an industry like you go to a bookstore there will be a Paulo quo stand with but they're not good books they're it's new age [ __ ] you know it takes the oldest story in the world retails it and calls it new and makes a lot of money don't they they do this this the the knowing that something's wrong and searching for an answer and finding one that has the most mystical qualities attached to it that's new age [ __ ] isn't it it is do you know uh Jamie Ian Swiss the the magician no I was interviewing him he's he's like the the world's most famous close-up magician he'll do [ __ ] in front of you on a table that will blow your [ __ ] mind anyway he said the worst he said smart people are the easiest to trick really yeah because their their predict their attention is predictable you know where they're going to look you can pull their attention where you want they're well trained kids are really tough because kids will look where they're not
supposed to look right and he said he hates doing magic for new agers because they already believe in all this [ __ ] so it's like you already believe that Crystal is going to save you then you know what I do is it really going to impress you you know oh it's like yeah it's like like selling fake real estate to mentally handicap people yeah there's no challenge what are you doing here it's not a it's like what Bernie maid off did that's goddamn scam very sophisticated scam and probably there's a lot of satisfaction trick tricking all these really smart people to giveing your money yeah but it's also very simple right you know you just lure them in with more money you know what works for them even though people were looking at the numbers going this is [ __ ] this doesn't even make any sense like where's this money coming from like this don't make any sense you can't do that trick on someone who's not greedy it's true right yeah yeah someone who's Frugal and smart and conservative they're go like this does not seem like it makes sense o I'm going to get out I don't need it but Spielberg is like listen I'm telling you the guy's giving me 20% of my investment so many people lost money with that guy too like big big big people lots of [ __ ] money lots of money yeah yeah I was working in the 80s after Alaska I went there two years and then I got this job in the diamond live there for two whole years well two summers I I worked on in a canery the first year and on a boat the fish can salmon yeah what do they do how do they do that they boil the fish and then just chop them in the cubes oh no man it was it was it was very intense I worked in keenai keenai Packers still remember him respect uh and I lived in my tent up on the bluff you lived in a tent yeah all summer you like an individual tent like a small tent or like a big tent where a bunch of people are living in no it was just my tent not a circus no it was a it was a thre man uh geodesic dome tent and at one point we got eight people in there having a party yeah that was pretty fun in the rain we all had to sit with our legs over each other you know in a circle and we're passing the wine and the joints around in the circle oh wow and uh PL foot that was the first time I ever saw anyone light a fart that was a
that was a historic moment in my life I've never seen that i' saw I saw it in a a video online nope it it does it eliminates the stink yeah kills the methane right yeah and uh but so I was living there so the way the way it works is the fish come in and uh you know you can get jobs because when the fish come in they have to process them like fast cuz they're rotting right so the fish come in uh they go through this they come off the boats they go through this machine this big clanking you know machine that they called the [ __ ] and I thought it was called the [ __ ] because it like you know ch ch ch ch and one day I asked one of the the foremen and he said oh no it's called the [ __ ] because Chinese used to do that job and the job was to rip off the head and and get the as much of the guts as possible so then the the fish go onto these conveyor belts and they come down the Slime line and that's where I was I was a slime monkey the first year so you stand there you've got it's piping cold water spraying on a cutting board you're wearing rain gear uh ear plugs cuz it's so loud you got a knife in your hand glove and you're just gotting the fish all day you're getting what the [ __ ] missed sometimes it it missed everything so you have to take off the head the fins get the guts get the bloodline off the spine in the back and then you put it on you put all that guts all that stuff into a chute which I later learned is goes into tanks that are sold to pharmaceutical companies because the fat from the internal organs and the head of the salmon is the base for a lot of Cosmetics whoa and then the other the the fish assuming the fish is in decent condition goes onto another um conveyor belt and then it goes down into the canning section where it's chopped and placed in these cans so it's just chopped right through you have lived some really crazy Adventures you've had a pretty wild and and Broad life well that was the point right I wanted I mean when I was 20 I was like you know [ __ ] it I'm going to die someday but so romantic that you actually like engineered that you know a lot of people don't you know they say maybe they have a rich crazy life but it was because they were an alcoholic and they were running from the law with you like you
made a conscious decision to have this adventure yeah it was definitely intentional and I mean it helped that I didn't want to have kids right so that removed that whole area of of of problem for me and it also helped that my parents were sort of upper middle class and really good people and they were like you know the only thing my dad said when that first year in Alaska I called I said look I'm going I'm going to Japan man I'm just like forget College I'm I'm alive you know also about the time I discovered acid by the way which helped I wonder huh connection maybe and my dad was like look Chris you know I'll support you in anything you do but please for me go back to school finish get your degree because it's going to be so hard to go back later so for my dad and really to this day that's like the only thing he's ever stepped in and said please trust me on this I went back to school but I said I'm not going to live in the dorms I'm not cuz I went to the the school full of Rich spoiled [ __ ] I mean George Bush's niece was in my class the the heir to the spaling fortune was in my class um so I lived in my tent in the woods behind the art museum that's awesome yeah dude I love talking to you man it's so much fun we're out of time but we could do this all day every day we could do this like a hundred times a year you got a gig tonight right yes yes we're at the ice house it's sold out though so go [ __ ] yourselves folks if you're trying to buy a ticket too late tough [ __ ] you snooze you lose I was going to ask for one though you could get in Come On Son my La get rose pedals listen he's going to look at you like you looked at that nipp on the plane rose pedals feed each other rose pedals and think about breastfeeding on planes um let's do this again man yeah anytime Duncan in here I was trying to well Duncan who knows we we'll we'll talk about that off the air yeah yeah uh be great Duncan danielli the whole c yeah yeah yeah Danielle ble came on we've been doing that more lately having like a cple couple people on like we had Brian Callen and Tom rhods on last week I had um Dan Carlin and Danielle blei that was really fun so uh we'll do this again yeah always a pleasure always a pleasure sex Dawn please buy it go buy it it's a [ __ ] fantastic book and uh if you're thinking
about get breaking up with your relationship it'll push you over the edge I'll tell you that it'll give you that extra push you might need if you're in a bad one to be free and to go [ __ ] with no underwear in Alaska hey uh we will see you tonight if you want to come down to be tonight is uh red ban Matt Fon Sam tripley Brian Ken D Herrera and me we're going to have a hell of a show we're supposed to be Greg fit Simmons but unfortunately he has to pick up his mom at the airport but Greg will be here on the podcast this Friday so we should have a good time as well and Greg has a new uh special out um that I listened to on the way home from the Irvine Improv a couple of months ago and it's really [ __ ] funny really good stuff so uh we will see you soon my friends mad love to all of you thanks to Carbonite for sponsoring the podcast go to carbonite.com type in the offer code JRE for a free trial thanks also to Ting go to rogan.com and save yourself some money on an awesome company a company that uh really does have uh an ethical solution to all your cell phone needs thanks also to hit.com go to o n niit use the code name Rogan and save yourself some money but this Friday we have an even better deal this is Black Friday and shit's going to get crazy save massive amounts of money 25% off supplements 15% off Foods 10% off Fitness packages plus an additional 5% off orders over 150 or 10% off orders over $250 so for big orders that's like 35% off supplements and 20% off Fitness it's very powerful and uh that's it you got something going on oh yeah this weekend I'll be with Joey Diaz and uh San Diego at the American Comedy Coast Saturday I may be at his show but he has shows Friday and Saturday and then December 11th I'll be in San Jose Improv at the comedy palace with uh Brody Stevens and Sam tripley and probably a bunch of other Comics there good googly moly you can't miss it uh December 13th I'm at the Crest Theater in Sacramento with the the lovely twink Tony Hing cliff and then on the 27th I'm at the Mirage uh Hotel in Las Vegas Nevada with Joey Diaz and Brian Ken [ __ ] shall be crazy all right we love the [ __ ] outy people and we will see you soon keep it together [ __ ] we're all in this as one big [Music]
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