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hello freaks are we on I don't see it doesn't show to me silly Ustream what the [ __ ] is going on ladies and gentlemen yeah today's podcast brought to you by on it.com that's o nnit t um we just started getting these uh new things in that are not weapons okay and uh Brian keeps accusing them of being weapons just because they're clubs and maces just because it would really help you if the if the apocalypse went down and we went back to sword fighting okay you would want to use one of these steel maces that we're carrying around these days we're selling these Club bells and steel maces and of course kettle bells what all these things are is functional strength equipment and there's two things that are super important to know when you're doing any kind of weightlifting and one is the correct form I can stress this enough if you can afford it get hire a trainer you only have to do it like once pay attention write [ __ ] down and tell them to give you three or four simple exercises clean press real simple things to know about where to place your weight and how to keep your posture know those study those and live by those it's one of the most important things about strength training don't be an idiot use proper discipline and use proper form because if you don't you're going to get hurt okay that's number one and number two if you want to get in serious shape there's no better exercises than exercises that use your whole body those are the kind of exercises that when you you you take it and you can translate it almost immediately to any sort of athletic activity whereas like muscle specific exercises like bench press or you know or curls more you know along those lines those they make your arms bigger they make you a little stronger but it's not the same as working your whole body in one as one group that's what kettle bells are all about that's what these steel maces are all about and um we have medicine balls and th those kind of activities or activities that translate into everyday life into sports so that's the kind of [ __ ] we sell along with different the best protein powder you can buy hemp Force protein powder different supplements brain supplements endurance supplements uh immune system supplements all literally the best [ __ ]
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have tapped your wrist is [ __ ] up like everywhere you go it's but it's sort of it's so much fun like to do it people like sort of sacrifice parts of their body up to a certain point the spine is a real issue though that's a scary one right you know back issues or how's your spine it's fine it's just a a minor bulge and it's getting better through um I'm doing this um disc decompression therapy where they hook you up to a machine and like slow pulling and pushing where it slowly like separates your right now it's only like 19B which sounds like a lot but it doesn't feel like anything back talk is so hot right now it's hot doing a lot of back talk lately yeah yeah I don't know why man it's on my mind no I I [ __ ] up my back but it's uh supposedly the bottom left is [ __ ] killing me it's either my intestines or there's something wrong with my back you got Aid son yeah it might be that's where AID starts starts right there [ __ ] you rub maps um you know boss Ron scared the [ __ ] out of me the other day that that scared the [ __ ] out of me his arm scared the [ __ ] out of me boss has had two neck surgeries and he's not getting signals to his right arm so his right arm is shriveled up and they just recently fused three of the discs in his neck so this is a second surgery he's had on his neck and then the other day his arm failed on him so there's another blockage so they have to go go in and figure out where the nerves are blocked like that's scary [ __ ] he couldn't pick up a gown of milk that's how bad it was he I have a a friend of mine who I have a place in Costa Rica little Surf Shack and he went over on a wave and broke his neck in in the water broke as then came out was NE and about 3 years ago I in the exact same place went over came up like it rubbed my face off like on the on the bottom and and I my neck hurt I went in to get a cat skin they're like yeah you have a hairline fracture you broke your neck 3 years ago and I've just been walking around going yeah my neck's a bit stiff you know oh my god dude how badass are you no stupid it's [ __ ] I was sitting there for like 4 months going yeah I can't really move it but you know whatever I'm not a [ __ ] just walking around with a broken neck well the other thing is I would use
your [ __ ] kettle bells but i a h Journey we could just this this could just be uh uh talking about all of our ill I have a a a a helmet headed a helme headed flesh eating parasite and my colon we can what yeah what yeah from where well I was supposed to get my hernia you're like yeah no I was supposed to get my hernia fixed right and so I was I was scheduled for surgery to get my hernia fixed and then I went to a tropical disease doctor and they're like no no no no no if they push on that hery you've got a [ __ ] living in your bowels and if it if it if it if you push it onto it'll perforate your bowels and you could die because this fucker's wedged in there eating your flesh whoa whoa there's something alive inside of you well not anymore I took lots of pills but it's like alien yeah how big was it I I I'm to be honest I didn't look at my [ __ ] for 3 weeks because I was like I didn't want to see the [ __ ] come out what why wouldn't you want to know what that looks like you've been all over the world you've been to karach you've been to the cono nightmares are made of you say that but these you say that but these thing these things would make me not want to [ __ ] go anywhere tell something there's not a [ __ ] Army of humans that keep me from looking at that [ __ ] I would have to know what that [ __ ] thing growing in my body looks like would not go anywhere else man that's that's so scary that's one of those things about like that that show what is that show that the the hidden enemy or something like that where people get parasites the man forget the name I wouldn't want to see it either cuz you can't unsee that that [ __ ] will be you want to unsee it I don't want to unsee it man every time you go to anywhere and have a glass of water or like eat anything you're just thinking [ __ ] I just got another one of those [ __ ] in my colon oh my God how now how can can you test for this like I feel like I've had a million you should go no cuz I had bad Sushi once and for like two months my stomach was [ __ ] up and I had you should go cuz they you get a rotor router go up there and usually like there's some amibas or there's some [ __ ] going on this one's an extra speci are you allowed to beat off while
they're doing this as if you're just listening well the doctor the doctor is about like 90 years old but uh may they won't even notice but have you been to rub maps they might have this on there but it was uh it was apparently quite a special a special parasite so I didn't I didn't want to see it large large and and uh they look they you know they look they look bad they look like an alien inside oh like the alien the alien right like the [ __ ] H gerer HR gerer oh my god dude what the [ __ ] well you know you're getting old when you're like I can't get my Heria operated on cuz the [ __ ] parasites are too big no no no that's not you know you're getting old that's you know you've eaten food cooked on the side Road in the strangest parts of the world it's actually kind of amazing that you're as healthy as you are when you consider all the different nutty places that you've gone you know you're [ __ ] healthy as [ __ ] we're just going to sit fairly healthy let's not yeah blow each other um but the the the idea of eating food at all these different places did it ever bother you before you had this parasite you know stupidly I I eat street meat I eat [ __ ] you know oh [ __ ] well if they're doing it you'll do it right in Afghanistan they're delicious you know and and what are they who knows right well who knows what's I remember somebody said to me the first time I went to Afghanistan they're like don't whatever you do don't drink the green tea because they give you green tea everywhere you go yeah but the problem is is if you refuse the green tea it's sort of like in a front it's like you know why why would you not drink the green tea because the water the water is very bad and maybe they didn't boil it or and so it's very very bad for you and but if you if you say no it's like saying [ __ ] you right right you got to teach those Savages about boiling water say listen listen listen list be friends here we could be friends here who knows what it is I need to see how you [ __ ] make you tea basically it's the same thing like when I was in Sudan they give you these like you know drinks like pomegranate juice but they've just added water to it and then you're like you can't it's really bad to say no right and and and you're just like I can't say yes to anything
and then explosive diarrhea is that what it is well or is it worse I I actually the tweets that I get the most response are like Shane's law which is you know the more you need a toilet the ratio is directly proportionate to you know how bad that toilet will be wow so for example when you have explosive diarrhea in West Africa guess what that toilet is just arcing ropes of [ __ ] and piss and [ __ ] blood everywhere whereas whereas in Sweden when you're having one lovely beautiful log and then one wipe wonder you have perfect beautiful clean toilet that smell of Jasmine you know and so it's it's literally like Murphy's Law Shane's laws you know how bad you need to take a [ __ ] is directly proportionate to how bad that toilet's going to be oh yeah those truck stop toilets those on you truck stop toilets in West Africa oh what what it must be like just holes in the ground right well actually they're so bad you can't actually get I personally can't even get into the room so I just I'll go outside into the bushes oh Jesus J Christ people are so [ __ ] gross at the our lowest level we're so disgusting you know like when you're at a concert and you go to a porter potty and there's just giant line of people [ __ ] into a bucket of blue water and just a bucket of Blue Water we're all pretending it's okay and as we walk up we're drying you would figured with all of our technology we could have figured out something better the only guys who really got it sus are the Japanese cuz they have you know music and and fragrances and sprays and heated rings and they're really into their sort of pleasure [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah yeah they truly are yeah but the uh the people that have to [ __ ] into a hole in the ground good well a hole in the ground would be better than than than a than a toilet uh that's just [ __ ] overflowing [ __ ] it's true [ __ ] that's been baking in the sun having shy ones as long as it's a nice deep hole but then you worry about losing your watch you know like it's some freak accident I I don't know what you're doing down there you're watching some freak wiping accident you hit a rout near the hole or it's when those sink holes cuz you think all so wet that's a very good point very good point um that [ __ ] sinkhole thing in Florida freaked out that scared the [ __ ]
out of me that's a terrifying thing yes their [ __ ] house just a hole opened up underneath it and apparently it happens so often in Florida that you have to get insurance for it if you have homeowners insurance wow what that's a good horror movie a crazy place to live man that is the craziest place to live there there's a big slum in Mexico that was built on a on a dump and the reason why it was a dump was because magically if you put your garbage there it would disappear because because it was a swamp it was like this sort of and so they they kept just sort of dumping stuff and then as the garbage got got higher they sort of started building houses on it and now but now like like 100,000 people live there it's like aity but it's built garbage on the dump but the the the garbage was in a sinkhole so every once in a while they won't just have one or two houses they'll have like 10 houses just go oh Jesus Christ just fall through the Earth yeah yeah what the [ __ ] yeah and it's weird how weird in uniform the holes look have you seen like some Brian pull up some of the photos cuz you you can't believe it I think the big one was in Guatemala where it started swallowing up entire blocks right it's insane it just dos like aie it's like all the sudden where your is a cff going down and everyone's walking around the edges looking down not knowing when it's going to expand if it's going to expand if it's going to stay that way permanently and there I don't look at that look at that dude come on that looks like a [ __ ] meteor came from the Moon and slammed into the Earth we went to one of those in in Libya where they they actually have like cars or whatever junk cars and they they throw it in because you can't hear it Ling it's so deep oh my God that you can't hear it Ling so they it's like a thing it's like a it's you know oh you're here let's go throw something into the bottomless pit how could they stand near that thing how could they be sure that's stable I went there we we threw like some I don't know metal rods or whatever we listen and you literally can't hear it hit that's how deep it is my balls hurt with you just saying that my balls started hurting my ass started crumpling and I'm TW I'm squeezing my toes what the [ __ ] man why does that
happen they don't know right they're not entirely sure is that the case there a variety of factors aliens land in it and then they call it a sinkle I think I think it's uial Clay is is is it's a lot of cities are built on beside rivers and those Rivers used to be bigger and so there's this aluvial clay which is unstable and it just sinks down but it sinks down like a 100 200 fet sometimes what the [ __ ] man there's a big one there Jesus Christ at least you can see the bottom of that one scary look all those people standing over there what the [ __ ] are they doing anywhere near that thing who knows what's going to happen all around that could just fall apart you're a real morbid dude well just when it comes to the earth swallowing you yeah I'm a little you know there's spots where that never happens I say go to those spots well you live in LA I mean you're right a little Shake A Little Rock and Roll we'll be fine the [ __ ] never happens out here oh look at that City it's just big hole in it now that I said it never happens you know it's coming that's a pretty and people are going to blame me wow look at that hole holy [ __ ] yeah you know uh single floor dwelling very important a good move if you can afford it um I think that's really the the safest thing and make sure your house is up to code I think you got to build it into like a mountain side like Dr No it's very possible your shit's going to get [ __ ] up it's really all about staying alive and you got to think really realistically you got to think if you live here it's very possible that every couple decades or so the [ __ ] Earth cracks the foundation of your house your plumbing is spraying water into the street and your power's out for a month you got to be willing to accept that's possible are you a prepper no no I'm prepared slightly I'm prepared for like a few a few months of [ __ ] you know but I'm not like uh stocking dried meat or anything nutty I just think that there's no way that with all the possibilities of natural disasters that we really don't take into consideration because the extent of our history of like what we really know about what's taking place on the earth and the amount of Devastation that can occur over an enormous period of time billions and billions of years where all these unique
events which have been documented throughout history where they're just starting to understand what caused certain geographic features and what kind of cataclysmic effect that BL up over right now we we missed two after that I would say I'm not a prepper but I will say this you know in in in in Northern Canada they have these millions and millions of lakes with like fresh wat nobody on them nobody can get to them all the and you're like if you have a few bucks stashed away and you can build like a you know a cottage on one of these [ __ ] with with pure water and stock you'd be stupid not to because if [ __ ] goes down right and you've got this Lake and this thing and it's hard to get to and all this stuff then then you can you can get the [ __ ] up there it's just it's like hedging your bets right you're just hedging your bets and and the thing the only problem with it is if [ __ ] does go down how the [ __ ] you get up there yeah that's the issue well I think you should have a little bit of food at your house and you should also try growing your food if you can even if you have a small patch in your backyard you'd be amazed what you can do with like pots we you know we started growing our stuff in pots you know just like large pots and you can grow like big vegetable plants you can get a lot of vegetables just from your garden well we were just we were we were doing this uh story on the world is sinking you know we went to the Maldives we went to Venice we went to Greenland and then we were in New York City and I actually interviewed the deputy mayor and and I I said you know you know Sandy HIIT and and it was bad but you know wasn't it was it was pretty [ __ ] bad like I I was I was outside of my house you know waste high in water you had a video of you standing outside was it by the Hudson yeah and right by my house dead rats are just floating by hundreds of rats are shooting by but in a current can you pull that video up cuz the the image is yeah in a current what should I search for and uh rats what is the uh video what what was the name of it well that's for the HBO show so we haven't released it yet but you showed it to me yeah I showed it to you yeah you son of a [ __ ] we can't put it online we can't show the people what about the people the good people out there the folks that
are not privileged yeah the Hudson went to to to to West Broadway and and I was sitting there doing a standup and and all these you know rats are going by and and whatever but the thing what's interesting about New York was that it [ __ ] [ __ ] up pretty bad but the fact is is there was no gas you couldn't get gas no one could you know you you could it was it was like lineups to get gas the whole city you know was sort of shut down gas wise people were trying to get out and then you realize we're like one centimeter away from everything [ __ ] collapsing yes because you're like oh S I got my [ __ ] Bol hole up in Canada on the lake that stocked with shotguns and DED meat and [ __ ] peas and seeds and then you're like how the [ __ ] am I going to get there when there's no goddamn gas you know and by the way you know you can't get out the the bridges and you can't get out the tunnels the tunnels are [ __ ] flooded and at that point you're sort of saying well I don't know what you're prepping for but if something bad like really cataclysmic happens we're we're [ __ ] so in the meantime have some fun yeah have some fun is good um be nice that's good too so that when the [ __ ] hits the fan people want to show you where their basement is with their canned tomatoes you know you could develop a real sense of community it would actually be kind of something refreshing if you could actually ensure that you weren't going to get attacked by roving hordes of Outlaws that had given up on society and it started robbing people but if we could you know if we had something to to not necessarily something that kills a bunch of people but something that gets everybody scared enough to bond together we're really getting dark no it's not even getting dark man we're like we went from 0 to 60 here brother I don't even think it's getting dark I really don't brother let me tell you I don't I don't think it's getting dark that's how it used to be it used to be it used to be communities banded together to to defend themselves from everybody else who's trying to [ __ ] them up that's the history of mankind that's why we're fighting all the time is because they were trying there was only a certain amount of carrots and they're trying to get your carrots and you got to defend your carrots so your kids can eat so it
was a continual Warfare and that was the community all supporting each other that's also why we have this tremendous desire to be around each other this T tremendous desire for community for Fellowship it's a part of our DNA that's why one of the worst things a person can be punished with is solitary confinement drives them nuts we have D it literally drives him nuts I I said it just like you cuz you're Canadian and I wanted to be proper it's it's there's a horrific thing that happens to the mind when it's tortured without human contact you just you you long for it cuz we really are not individuals we're we're we're Fibbers we pretend that we're rugged individuals so that we push forward uh you know an ego and and a legacy and a and you and Conquer and all that nonsense but at the end of the day you you must be around other people that's true I'm I'm sorry there you go no please I mean you know what I said it already I'm veros well my thing is you know we're a we're a learned species we we learn most things but we are hardwired for for three basic things which is survive which is why people commit suicide they figure are crazy because you're going against your hard wiring so survive procreate right so we're hardwired to procreate and then protect the progyny so at the end you sit there and say okay if you're talking about protect the progyny history makes sense because that means if you're in these Villages everyone's sort of intermingled you know like your cousin and me and we're and and everybody all the kids are there and they're all playing so then you would fight to the death to protect the progyny because that's hardwired into our spinal [ __ ] call right so so that's why we have this innate desire to form these communities and to protect these communities yeah and and and that's been the history of of of humankind and it's only when sort of the nation state came and sort of had these supernational entities that guaranteed security theoretically that that politics in modern in the modern form started but before that it was just about we're going to protect our village yeah I think if we could figure out how to truly recognize that all all people that can speak English and that can follow a certain ethic just to just to
be cool to people and just be friendly and be nice to people just that attitude alone if that if that is possible to change if it's possible to heal people psychologically enough to where they don't lash out at others like for whatever reason for their own mistakes for their own insecurities for their own [ __ ] up childhood that they had no control over whatever it is the cause if we could figure out a way to communicate with those people and settle everybody the [ __ ] down I think you can make a tremendous difference in how this world has run I mean I think we're literally that close to it we we the the number one thing that was missing throughout all of human history was the ability for all of us all of us to have a say all of us to be able to express ourselves all of us to connect all of us to figure out how to get information to and With No Boundaries as far as like countries and time Lim zones and and and and internet connections it's so free now that I feel like there's never been a time like this before where people might have a chance of taking a step back it's just overcoming the amount of momentum that's behind it as far as tradition and government and rules and regulations and how we've always done things and but if we could ever if we could just relax if everybody could just relax and understand that there's no secrets anymore as far as where the oil comes from or where the money goes or where the it's no everybody can prosper there can be a way where instead of being insanely overbalanced where the money is going to these foreign Banks all this crazy [ __ ] you guys would be happier too you super rich guys if you had less money but no evil Cara to go with it I'm not you I'm talking about like Banker type characters that if you're a banker and you're one of those evil [ __ ] that has a house in the Hamptons and you have you know these people that are around you all the time and you've made a billion dollars by finagling your way through Wall Street and you're just this maniacal Gordon gecko type character you failed M you you you got into a crazy game and you sort of decided that the numbers were more important than people and somehow somewhere along the line you figured out a way to manipulate it to the point where you're like what was his name the
dude myy made off Bernie made off well you Bernie made off it where you just you don't give a [ __ ] you're just stealing money from the system pulling it out I definitely agree with you that look it's all within our own I think somewhere along the line we forgot that it's in our power to do [ __ ] yes like it's it's up to us to do [ __ ] and and I think that you know humans generally are capable of of incredibly you know I mean you see Heroes every day and Incredibly sort of heroic Feats and and and and Community sticking together and Humanity sticking together and all this stuff we're also sadly capable of the most disgusting [ __ ] you can [ __ ] possibly imagine and that the the problem that I have with what we we're doing at Vice now with our news and what we're doing with the HBO show is you know we're going out into the world and we're seeing all this [ __ ] and you're like holy [ __ ] we're [ __ ] we can do some really really bad [ __ ] and I think that as people do bad [ __ ] it collectively brings Humanity down right when you're using child you know children six seven eight years old to be suicide bombers or assassins that's collectively bringing Humanity down and I believe what we have to do is we have to stomp that out we cannot let that [ __ ] go on because because of modern day politics what happens is these kinds of of of heas crimes are being you know sort of perpetrated all the time now and it's it's it's it's detrimental to humanity as a as a as a whole unquestionably no I think no one can argue that the um the the real question is how to go about doing it and is is the the threat of that is it is it is it cultivated you can't do it but you can't you can't do it militarily that's the problem because it's like Apocalypse Now right and and and they're like you know we went in and inoculated this is fiction by the way but we went in and inoculated the arms and then the the uh you know the the Viet Kon came in and cut the arms off and they're like you know CTS when he's going crazy is saying you know how are we going to win against that these are the kinds of things that we are capable of these are the kinds of things that are happening today that's fiction that well it's I mean it's it's it's fiction within the movie but you know when when it's the reason why I
brought it up is I was actually when I was interviewing the Taliban and they were telling me about that they were going to continue to use child suicide bombers all I could think of was you know this this quote from the movie of if they're going to cut off the arms of their own children because they were inocular by the Americans then you know how can we win against that and I was thinking if they're going to send their own kids to be suicide bombers then how are we going to win against that you definitely can't do it militarily because then it's just a it's it's one upmanship who can be worse who can [ __ ] the other guy up the most and you know about this in in in in any kind of street fight okay well you're beating me with fists and I'll use a bottle well you're using a bottle I'll use a knife well you're using a knife I'll use a gun well that's the I always tell people like avoid conflict at all costs always CU first of all I don't want to be mad at anybody somebody's going to be crazier than you too yes and well not only that nobody likes it when you kick their ass it's not like they forget that no they make you their sworn enemy and they want to come back and get you and a lot of times those situations where you make an enemy for life could have been avoided if you went out of your way to be whatever more apologetic friendlier nicer understand his point of view and and then he probably would concede a little bit too and then maybe you get a drink and then maybe he could be friends I mean there's a lot of moments like that in life where it could go one way when you get in a fist fight with someone that was totally avoidable but maybe you were in a [ __ ] mood because your girlfriend just dumped you or maybe you know he said something that he wished he didn't say but he's [ __ ] 22 and you say stupid [ __ ] you don't even really mean it you don't even know what the [ __ ] you're doing you're just making noise with your mouth and practicing being a person you know and next thing you know you've got an enemy for Life yeah the other thing is is is you know it's a game where Psychopaths win and and that you know it pays to be a psychopath in those situations well because you know you you see guys who going out there and you know you're going to have a fist fight in the back
alley and and then I you know when I was in a place one time where there was a fist fighting a guy sucked out a guy's eyeball and then just tore it out with his teeth oh my because he's because he's a psychopath and you sit there and go well there's always going to be somebody willing to take it to the next level and they'll take it to the next level it was in the place where I was I saw the aftermath of it but it was and actually it's a it's a it's a famous uh what they call firms in in in the UK uh uh you know football Hooligans it was a hooligan move where they they they pound you and they they suck your eyeball it's actually my God it's a it's a it's a move that they that they use in a football match in the fighting of the firm so like if you're Manchester United versus Manchester City and they hate each other they have these fights Jesus [ __ ] Christ how nutty are we man that people in England can't even get along with people in England well that's that's the whole thing like that that's goes back to the Village mentality too which is I'm from this Village I hate the other guy from that Village there's some tough [ __ ] from the UK man there's some tough [ __ ] anywhere there all over the world but there's like a certain like there's a London toughness you know there's a whole UK toughness well it depends where you come from I always say the tougher like the actually the poorer the neighborhood the tougher the fighter often cuz they're fighting for yeah [ __ ] survival do you remember Barry mcgan I remember [ __ ] Roberto Durant [ __ ] yeah Roberto Durant because he wasn't as good he wasn't as Sugar Ray lard he was not as good of a fighter he was not as fast he didn't have the tal but he had the heart and he wanted to win and he beat him and you know and it went back and forth obviously well he [ __ ] up in the second fight you know he went from the first fight that that Duran was an animal that was a street animal and his boxing was it was underrated he just had a very unconventional style like he would paw with the left he didn't have a stiff left jab the way Leonard did like Leonard would stick you Durant would paw with the jab to more of a rangefinder but he was very clever man by Time by then he had already fought Ken Buchanan
you ever watched that fight he was the original and Gada he [ __ ] up K beanan with low blows he blasted him right in the dick like Durant was an animal man he was an animal there was a um a story where they had went to uh Panama once to interview him about something it was like for like sports illustrat or some [ __ ] and while these people were talking to him he picked up a cat by the tail and threw it against a wall and smashed its head and they were like whoa what the [ __ ] that's very mean like he was just so he was Savage I mean he literally was a wild man I mean became eventually like a brilliant boxer as he developed as a man and after he went through the no ma situation you know for people don't know you don't follow boxing he quit in the second fight he beat Leonard in a really tough fight in the first fight very close fight really wild amazing fight even to this day the standard of that fight is very very high like you could picture the Duran of that era fighting like Floyd Mayweather and having an amazing fight there's it's not like looking at old football players or old mixed martial artists it was like really hotly contested yeah real high level stuff and then the second fight Durant got fat he had a hard time making the weight he he apparently like struggled to make the weight and they ate like a big steak and a gallon of orange juice and got really sick and yeah and then there was also speculation that he was told to throw the fight that the people had bet on it but he looked terrible he just didn't look and then he quit and then after he quit man [ __ ] the Latinos the the all the people that supported him all the Spanish-speaking world were so upset cuz he was this Macho [ __ ] Savage representative of everything I mean just quit for no reason he's like noas noas like nothing he's fine he just he like you know how much we [ __ ] paid to watch this so he was crushed for years and years and it was sad I watched him fight like you know it's like all of the sudden he just looked like this doughy version of who he used to be and then he came back and fought Davey Moore and if you remember that fight that he was a he was a distinct Underdog he he was in his late 30s I think he was like 36 and in those day back in that day it was like that was really [ __ ] old like 36 like
Bernard Hopkins just won the title at 48 but for in Duran's Day 36 was old as [ __ ] but he boxed his [ __ ] out of dve Moore and he thumbed him in the eye more importantly he swole up one of his eyes and he couldn't see and the kid just didn't know never overcome adversity like that where he was in with a guy he really couldn't hurt the guy was just clever enough to get out of the way of all his [ __ ] and land a little bit and a little bit more and a little bit more and as the rounds progress you realize oh my God I'm getting beat up right like it's just like this slow like beat down that he put on him that was a that was it was such a wild thing to see I love a guy that comes back I love a guy that's like his life's in the toilet and then he bounces back yeah George Foreman George Foreman's a fascinating story fascinating I remember when he made his comeback he was 36 years old and he was over 330 LBS or something crazy like that like it rotund it a joke I love this fighting star which is sort of like a Weeble wobble but we don't fall down we just sort of rock back and forth and he'd keep his left way out there like this cuz this was what was coming yeah well all of it was coming he could knock you out with anything he had like hams for fists that guy he was an incredible specimen but he went into four years of like heavy depression after the Ali fight yeah yeah was a brutal fight for him cuz he was uh first of all he never been he'd never encountered that kind of psychological warfare exactly you know when Ali was like dancing and screaming to the cameras and do you ever you've seen the the documentary on that when we were kings were amazing amazing documentary and if Ali had retired after that fight oh man maybe he'd still be around to talk about [ __ ] today you know maybe we could have him on the podcast you know what I mean I mean he he had really gotten to the point where he his uh his illness kicked in like it does now it's so sad to watch like his later fights when well taking taking the the beating that uh you know Foreman you know actually in the documentary when they say you know he was taunting him he was taunting him and finally Foreman just let him have it and then they said and then you saw the fear in Ellie's eyes then you saw holy [ __ ] what have I
done here yeah but then he lasted it through and then you know boom came back that was just a will battle a battle I mean a rope a doe style like nobody saw that coming against a guy like foreman and you see him like hitting that heavy back just putting a hole in it you're like you're taking that to the ribs to the kidneys there's a guy named Lavar Johnson who fights in the UFC right now who's freakishly strong like that like he's got that ridiculous kind of power he's a huge guy he's about 250 lbs two I think he was 260 for his last fight and he fought Brendan sha who just kept taking him down Brendan fought a real smart fight cuz he's just too dangerous standing justock out everybody he's so [ __ ] powerful I mean he's not the most technical guy in the sport but for sure he's one of the hardest punchers if he hits you you're [ __ ] and everybody's just scrambling to grab a hold of this guy and drag him to the ground as quickly as possible he's just got that thing and there's a few guys like a George Foreman type guys they just have that thing like they can hit you way harder than you can Tyson you know everyone would watch for his right cuz it would knock you out and then he was knocking you was his left Tyson had speed that just was unrivaled the ferocity and speed and the the ruthlessness of it like if you watch The Marvelous fight him in his prime when he was still up in in in Vermont and you know C Brian pull up the Marvis Frasier fight pull up Mike Tyson versus Marvis Frasier because in my opinion this was the scariest I've ever seen a human being be in my life I remember I was like I I think I was probably like 18 or something I was watching this at home on TV and Tyson just destroyed Marvis Frasier in the most violent fight I had ever seen in a boxing and I and I thought to myself back then I was like if there's one person that would be the most terrifying person to be encountered with it would be Mike Tyson like that Ed that's ever lived watch this fight I mean he just Marvis Frasier was like a top heavyweight Contender and Tyson just stepped to him and just started [ __ ] blasting him dodging under punch got him in this corner right here and this is the end right here bing bing bing bing bing bing that's all before he can fall down he's already unconscious
Tyson hits him four times more before he even gets to the ground sure it was it was like an assassination yeah when I was watching Tyson I was like no one's ever going to beat not for 10 years he ended up beating himself well you know what it is man it's a it's a bunch of things first of all that that once you've gotten there it's got be a very strange and Uncharted place in your mind and in your your ability to M you've been living in this he's also 20 something years old I me but he'd be Liv you know he'd been trained he'd been taken out of Brownsville he' been taken out of reform school he'd been trained yes by one of the greatest trainers of all time you know adopted effectively by him and more importantly Camano was one of the greatest psychological trainers of all time and he and he saw on him he said he's the greatest Raw Talent I've ever seen and he would custom motto would say things that to this day there's you can have a short precise point that an athlete can digest and take with him as he steps out of the locker room and and into the ring that actually can help and caman said one of the most brilliant things that I've ever heard when it comes to being terrified in the face of combat and in the face of a fight and he said that every man experiences fire and that fire can cook your food it can heat your house or if you let it get away it can burn you to the ground and you have to decide how to take care of it but the coward and the hero feel the exact same thing it's just the coward falls into the pressure where the hero figures out how to manage it and overcome it and actually Rises to the occasion and keeps it together right so for custom monol he had studied like he had studied psychology and he had studied so many aspects that are are are crucial to success in that crazy isolated type of a sport well you get a guy like Tyson who's this needy young energetic physical specimen just just filled with anger and rage and not getting enough love and all of a sudden this Yoda [ __ ] comes out of the cat skills Yoda yeah you know it's it's one of the greatest SP stories in sports history it's sad the way it ended but you know it isn't sad man it's not sad he's alive he's fine Tyson is doing these story uh shows where Dana White told me it's [ __ ] fantastic he goes
on and he tells these wild stories about his life and Spike lead directed it it's apparently amazing so it's not sad it's inevitable there's no way you can keep beating people up and that's happy because it's always sad for the people you beat up I mean there is no happy ending if you beat the [ __ ] out of people for the rest of your life there's no happy ending there's a bunch of sad endings there's your happy ending you're happy you get to retire undefeated yay no I had never had to take it dished it all out good night everybody like Rocky Marciano you everybody was it was the big deal that Rocky Marciano reached whatever it was 46 and0 or 39 and0 and everybody was like Marciano was the only one to retire undefeated well that's almost unfair right right it's almost unfair you know I'd like to retire undefeated not for my parasite eting your [ __ ] I think yeah you lost that game you had you had to cheat you had performance enhancing drugs your immune system wasn't able to fight off the alien you had to swallow poison um I I don't know man I'm just talking [ __ ] what was it like hunting uh in Japan or uh you weren't you hunting animals no no no you're confusing Siberia they were at Chernobyl we talked about remember yeah the wolves like they're freakish giant wolves out there yeah well they're they're mutated mutated is that true for real 100% 100% what did they look like well the mutations are mostly internal um because they're they're uh the the exclusion Zone which is a huge area is uh Radioactive and so that they've gone they've undergone mutations I actually read something the other day saying I'm from the Ukraine and there's all these horses out there and and you know there aren't mutations we actually have the guys the the the the uh the the people who run the exclusion Zone admitting on camera yes they're mutated the scientists are saying they're mutated and of course they're mutated because they're growing up in in in in a radioactive Zone uh about the size of France and uh but yeah we went to hunt them and the thing is is we had an U um guer counter with us and whenever they they sort of you you go off and they go into the forest the forest which is where all the you know the dirt and everything is trapped they would go it
would go off the register I mean it was like you know I I forget what it was but it was like 400 megar or whatever was was was uh uh safe and we got to 14,000 at one point you're like you know speaking of speaking of parasites uh you know I I I you know parasites I'll take but uh you know, 1400 times the healthy uh have zombie parasites now radioactive par have you seen the fish have you seen the fish of Chernobyl those videos of these enormous fish Brian pull that up cuz it's really strange I mean I don't know maybe these fish maybe I'm just ignorant and they're like sturgeons or something if you look at now too if you look at what's happening in Japan they have massive uh protests in Japan saying you have to stop nuclear energy look at what the [ __ ] happened in in Fukushima because you know we had a tsunami which we're going to have more and more of but guess what now we have whole radioactive Villages and you know R radiation in the in the groundwater radiation all over the place radiation in the food Che what is that that's a like a giant Carp Is that a fish in Fukushima that's [ __ ] up that's just a giant carp dude I think that's in yeah um no if you uh if you Google radioactive fish of Chernobyl there's a a video where these um these people are by this River and these these enormous fish I don't know what they are I mean maybe it's just that's what they are maybe it's like there's a lot of fish there and the people went there when we were there the people who run the actual Zone were saying that the animals uh they admitted the animals are mutated and so well of course they are I mean why wouldn't you you have you have massive amounts of radiation how can they not be we had this dude Scott Sigler on the podcast yesterday and he's an author and he he he writes about [ __ ] like that like a [ __ ] island of mutated animals that are 650 PBS and they're packed Predators with fins so you're freaking me out right now man you're freaking me out with these Siberian werewolf stories that would be an awesome movie though Siberian werewolf because the mutation yeah that was like you know almost all of the like um like when you were a kid well not all of them but it was always a constant theme for superheroes yeah you
know like David Banner became the Hulk it was Bruce Banner originally but they thought that was too gay for television so they changed it to David when it was on it was always you came close to it but just close enough good [ __ ] would happen yeah they would all get like some superpower as opposed to testicular cancer or [ __ ] you know renal renal cancer or something wasn't the Fantastic 4 like they get too they got [ __ ] close to bledar something happened and they became super powerful we're so us usually we're talking about politics were like what the how the hell did the Fantastic 4 become so I always like the Fantastic Four man I always like uh comic books when I was a kid but and that that was such a big theme that somehow you would get into some encounter with massive amounts of radiation but you would become a superhero and so every kid sort of looked at that like wow yeah man as opposed to you know what it what the reality what it does to you bunnies being born with no arms or legs dude it's yeah weird [ __ ] bad [ __ ] bad bad yeah and you don't know like what how's this all going to balance out and how long is it going to take CU by the way life can sort of barely trudge on in an incredibly [ __ ] up state of toxic for several thousand years and you know eventually get to the point where it either figures out how to clean everything up or mutates to the point where he can tolerate it but it's not going to be fun you know no it's not going to it's avoidable too well when we we interviewed the iaea for our world's most dangerous border piece which I think we talked about here India Pakistan and Kashmir which actually the fort that we were based out of just got attacked yesterday um they they said uh categorically that if you use more than 100 Warheads of which they have hundreds of warheads pointing at each other indiaan Pakistan um that the world as we know it ceases to exist everything is is I mean the ozone is gone and we're it's it's like you know the Planet of the Apes dudes who living underground that's the type of [ __ ] that you're you know and you sit there and say this is what's happening today is that India Pakistan hating each other mean that you know we have the distinct possibility that our zone is gone or that one of these crazy
[ __ ] P pushes the button exactly well then we have to hope that the aliens land and stop all that [ __ ] that's the only thing that can save us well may if aliens were real that would be what the time to move get in between India and Pakistan and go guys guys guys God damn what is this mess you've got here why is there a billion people here everybody settle the [ __ ] down you look exactly the same when you hate each other that's nonsense and you're you're right across it some stupid divide one person believes one pile of wacky [ __ ] and the other person everybody settle the [ __ ] down I agree you need a big spaceship to pull that off though like several football fields long and you need to do a magic trick or two and let these [ __ ] know that you're there for for serious you're not taking any [ __ ] make some trees disappear I think you're you're out here uh in LA in the land of Scientology you know you every you got to get the aliens Dr Z and the fetons and all that business amaz amazing how easy that was to pull off when you really read that story sure doesn't it make you want to start a cult just a little baby one it's pretty interesting I got to say I'm fascinated by it it's amazing yeah if you could live in the 1950s and like start your cult around the same time he started his cult people start Cults did Warren Jeff's you know is doing it right now Warren Jeff's uh that's Utah though it's a totally different animal Utah's a different animal you can pull it off there did you can't get any new Mexicans to buy into that [ __ ] we did a did well they buy into it all over the place we did a story on The Lost Boys you know about these guys The Lost Boys so because of uh um uh you know well in in waren Jeff's case you know pronouncement he has like 78 wives but the the Shazam why you hating [ __ ] the elders get like you know 20 30 40 wives but then by just by math okay there's only x amount of women so so they have to get rid of these the kids the the okay you're not think in terms of being Bountiful I think you bring in more women see you're seeing a problem I see uh an equation that you have to solve and uh what you need bring me bring in more crazy [ __ ] what's happening is they're they kick the the the men the boys out and so these kids who grew up in this religion
that says everybody else is evil and you can't do anything and they don't know how to pay bills they don't know they just kick them out they said okay you're gone now you have because they want the girls they have to have the girls okay that's weak that's that's player Ha you're not you're not loving your your brothers and sisters they're in your crazy cult you're kicking out your own kids mhm you're also kicking out people who know how crazy your nutty cult is and they're going to eventually tell people why why they're so sad why so sad Billy oh my [ __ ] dad needs to have aund [ __ ] [ __ ] to marry so he kicked me out so I can't have girlfriends these poor girls that grow up with no men and they're forced to accept the fact the seven-year-old guys I like the voice that you're adopting that's me in therapy if I if I got kicked out by my dad and he was [ __ ] this girl I was in love with my own dad's like shut up son get out of the room she's mine mine mine I need a hundred of them a hundred but you know what on the other hand you can't hate if the guy can keep it up wellow he I don't know uh I don't know if he can keep it up in prison don't take that out of context ladies and gentlemen I don't really mean that that is only in just I I think that that guy obviously victim some poor people that were easily LED my always my question has always been why are people still so easily LED that's a good question is it just a way the body is designed that some of us are work AES and some of us are you know middle management and some of us are the the contrarians hanging on the outside like you or I life is hard yeah it is hard life is hard and you're looking for someone to say here's why it's hard here's why it's hard and by the way if you work hard and do what I say then you're going to go to some place better better because now it's a [ __ ] now it's [ __ ] hard as [ __ ] but if you do all this [ __ ] it's going to get better and you know what else that is it's like being in a group is great it's nice to be in a group it's us against them yeah like what we call Des Squad like uh it's not like it's not like you don't have to join it or anything like that it's not real it's not a real organization yeah the tattoo is it in your right
cheek um but I got the whole but it's cool like when we go places and we see those desk Squad shirts like it's it's insane there's something cool about it there's something like undeniably cool about it like we're not trying to really start a cult we're not telling anybody what to do but if we show up somewhere and you're wearing a desk Squatch shirt it's kind of badass you know it's like what's up man how you doing like you know most likely unless he's an undercover cop that's going to be a very nice guy you know I understand what this podcast is for now I'm finally getting you're like selling Ste starting a cult would be cool it's that's what but you don't want a real cult see the the best kind of cult is the kind of cult that doesn't really have any foundation whatsoever no leadership there's no structure and everybody kind of knows what the [ __ ] to do that's the perfect cult where you can't really like say you're doing anything because you're not doing you set up the meta The Meta cult you just podcast that's what you do you just start podcasting and you eventually you get into their system and once you get into their system you tell them listen man we just need to spread this and we're all going to be okay we just need to get this out to everybody spread it out as far and wide and it's real simple it's like Jim Jeffrey said about the Bible did you ever see Jim jeffy's bit about the Bible it should say don't be a [ __ ] yeah you know and it really you peeing are you getting up to pee Oh more alcohol that's good you want do uh Jamie want you or yeah one of you gentlemen that's not working Shane you sure you don't want the Kool-Aid Shane our our Kool-Aid has been processed in a special micro filter that's pumped up hill using on it yeah using gravel and streamwater and uh and it's all broadcast live on audible.com but um thank you sir thank you very much I think uh I I I really do think all [ __ ] aside that your [ __ ] that you guys are doing on on vice.com it's amazing has as much of an impact on where this culture is going and the potential that this culture has for understanding the the true inner workings of all the various aspects of um intergovernmental relationships and
nutty places like Chernobyl and the Liberia episode I didn't know anything about Liberia until I watch that show you guys have done more look just for educating me okay and I and I can like I mean not really educate people but tell you like what link to click on I but that kind of a connection I've you guys have exposed me to some of the most little understood little talked about things that are so bizarre and hard to believe that exist today well I I think I said this last time your audience is maybe the best audience in the in the goddamn world because we you know people used to say Vice was the best content on the web that you've never seen and when we started to come out here and do this podcast all of a sudden we'd get these you know fanatical sort of positivist wow like great responses and it was always with the hashtag you know powerful or Rogan or whatever and it's always by 100% of the time it's your it's you know and I've got to say that says a lot about you but it also says a lot about you know the people listen to this podcast which is you know they're they're thinking for themselves you know they're they're they're listening to Alternative [ __ ] they're not believing the [ __ ] that they see on on on regular mainstream TV and look they're they're they're positive when someone says look like you said we live you and I live on the periphery yes and we live on the periphery but we're trying to do our thing and you know what when when people who listen to this podcast are so positive it makes me [ __ ] happy and it makes me say you know I don't mind I got a helmet headed [ __ ] flesh eating [ __ ] my [ __ ] go because because these [ __ ] on Twitter and on Facebook and on Vice they're so [ __ ] positive and then you know I'm going to tell you another thing it makes me feel like we can change [ __ ] it makes me feel like okay there is some negative [ __ ] out there in the world who are doing some really bad [ __ ] but we can actually do things to stop that and you're doing it and I'm doing it and then by the way the people on this podcast are doing it and and and the more people that actually educate themselves and listen to you and come in here and check on those links that's [ __ ] how we change [ __ ] we shouldn't
expect anyone else to change your [ __ ] for you because they won't I agree with you and I also U believe that it's it's also a matter of projecting a certain way of living right um that that you project uh you you you project a a very honest and uh humbled view of the world and I think when someone is exposed to a guy like you um it when a guy's sitting on his stationary bike right now riding along listening to the show and listening to your your experiences in life in Karachi and Liberia which I really want to get to again they they they sort of like get this view like okay here's this [ __ ] guy who's out here doing all this crazy [ __ ] and he's saying all these things like this guy has no reason to lie to me this guy's he's he's not like anybody that I've ever met before but yet I'm sort of absorbing his thoughts and by doing that you're you're injecting these ideas that might not have ever manifest themselves in hundreds of thousands and millions of people and that's some powerful powerful powerful [ __ ] and it's it's not on CBS and it's not on NBC and it's never going to be it's never going to be broadcast by anybody that doesn't want to to risk everything they already have which we get a lot of [ __ ] for you know we get we get we get a lot of [ __ ] for and this is another thing I want to say about the people on this podcast is a lot of times you know for example what just went down in North Korea um you know we get attacked by mainstream media and yet you know people who are on the periphery people who are watching us people they like exactly this is exactly what the [ __ ] we want to have go on well nobody exposed mainstream well nobody in the mainstream rather exposed North Korea the way you guys did when you went to North Korea and and showed those fake restaurants and showed just how spooky and nutty the atmosphere was over there we were not we we there was no shows that were doing that there was no 60 Minutes wasn't doing that the honesty in in which you portray things like from lady boys in Thailand I mean you know what I mean like when you were hanging with the lady boys dude I'm telling you man I became a fan of yours when saw that video of you hanging with the lady boys you know why here's why because you were being kind to them you were being nice to them you were you were chilling
out with them in a bathtub and all like laughing and but it wasn't even you weren't being creepy and sexual you weren't being a douchebag you're being a sweetheart you're being a nice person to a bunch of other nice people no no [ __ ] and it's hard to do that it's hard to do that it's hard to do that without this [ __ ] [ __ ] it's hard to do that without someone being mad at you it's hard to do that without protecting your ego how are people going to think about you you're hanging out with these lady boys you were just a guy who was there and he was trying to be nice to some other people and they were being nice to you back and it was the right thing to do and it resonated and I remember watching that video going this guy's a cool [ __ ] and I I think that was before I even saw hm's uh Adventure Artic Adventure which was the thing that really I mean made me a vice addict you know I mean check your I I look at vice.com more than any other website on the net pretty much other than Twitter and checking my own email right I I I watch all your [ __ ] I watch that hinos great adventure whatever it was Artic Adventure what is the actual name of that was vice guy to travel yeah it was the most remote U man on Earth himo himo the remotest place on Earth the remotest man on Earth what well if you just Google H Mo and vice you'll find out whatever the actual um do you know what it is p no did you try one of the lazy lady boys by the way I mean how dare you everyone how dare you you know we're on the internet everyone always asks me that question you're like you understand that there's like two camera guys and sound Crews and like like we're shooting you know we're shooting so what you did the right thing man it was beautiful I wish I would be that strong I'd be like get [ __ ] get off me said it was amazing don't touch me but you know how it is at a certain point in your life you don't give a [ __ ] what anybody thinks about you you don't give [ __ ] and you're just like you know what I'm going to do my [ __ ] I'm going to try to get through the day and do the best thing I possibly can and that's it that's all I can do you know well I I I think that's that's a possible state to achieve and maintain but I think it's difficult to get there and for a lot of people that's an alien concept right and that's why
when I saw you were so like comfortable and cool about that I was like you're there's no way that guy's not cool I was like that that's a cool [ __ ] like you were just like real easy with these people it was fun and really I I look there was an issue that came up last week or earlier this week about transgender MMA fighters there's a a woman who used to be a man who's now fighting in MMA against women and you know people have been I've gotten some heat about it on Twitter that I took the wrong stance because I said that that's a guy that cut his dick off and he's fighting girls and that's the end of the story you can you can say all you want I don't care what the Olympic Committee says there's a different mechanical advantage to being a man but that in no way I want everyone to know that if you really feel like you are supposed to be a woman and you're a man I am I will still be friends with you like I have zero issue with that my only issue in that venue is that I understand the mechanical advantage of the male frame I just I just do if I lost like if I lost my dick and balls if I decided to chop my dick and balls off and be a woman I would still have these giant hands and they're not going to shrink these aren't going to go away so there's there's a mechanical advantage to having this big hammer fist to punch a girl in the face with that's [ __ ] up it's just it's not the same and anybody who says that it's the same as far as Athletics and comp it might be the same in track and field if you don't have balls anymore you might not be able to run as fast have you ever seen the Beautiful Boxer you ever seen that movie that that's the tie Boxer that was a um a lady boy with testicles successful then chopped him off and then started getting his ass kicked I believe she stopped after she I think she fought for a while yeah that was the issue I I interviewed her in in Bangkok and we fought with her a little bit and I got to say she could kick the [ __ ] out of people but you know she she was a guy fighting other guys but you know yeah it's I feel for those people I understand that my thing is Whatever Gets You Through the [ __ ] day however not that way however however if it's if you're if you're talking about sports you sit there and say I don't know what we're looking at over there well you're
not even just talking about sports you're talking about the most violent sport in the world and a sport which I understand and I I'm telling you from a perspective that very few people enjoy I'm telling you from the most honest perspective possible I have called more than a thousand fights I don't know how many fights I've ever done commentary on over 10 plus years of doing it a man has an advantage there's a big difference difference there's not a little difference there's a big difference well also then you start to deal with you know the questions of there's steroids involved and there different things and enhancements and other weird [ __ ] that's involved and all that stuff also the predatory mind of the male is a very different mindset but if you're 30 years old and you get your dick caught off at 30 you've had 30 years of man living okay there's a different thing fighting and and dealing with [ __ ] and dealing with violence and dealing with you know possible death when you're when you're hanging out with a bunch of creepy people when you're 18 years old there's a bunch of violent sexual men and you're in a yes anything can happen especially if there's a little money and very few parental influences that are positive you could there's some dangerous [ __ ] if you get through all that and then you cut your dick and balls off you still lived all that you're still a man you're still a violent [ __ ] you're still a dangerous dude that happens to want to be a woman and and and I don't why are you getting in [ __ ] because I said that that uh although I support anybody becoming a transgender if that's what you really want to do I would never tell anybody what they can and can't do kenon can't do but you shouldn't be fighting women maybe a [ __ ] League you know and I don't say [ __ ] and any it's not derogatory until it is I mean I mean didn't the the the guy from Bravo get in trouble for using the word twink I don't know trust me I just remember I remember seeing I remember seeing a video of these big sort of uh you know Aussie rugby player types and they they I guess were [ __ ] with some you know [ __ ] lady boy whatever and the lady boy kicked the [ __ ] out of them like just flatten these three rug cuz I guess they were actually MMA or they were something
mu Tha or some some sort of fighting and just trying to kick just [ __ ] leveled him it's on YouTube oh that's hilarious and I was just like well but you got to think that you know if you're if in most countries maybe not Thailand but if you're a lady boy or sheale or tring gendered or whatever they're fighting all the [ __ ] time you know and so so you know anyway I I I saw that video and it was just kind of like because I hate those uh I was just in Thailand uh at a conference and there's these all these [ __ ] you know Australian uh sort of rugby dudes who are just spoiling for a fight just they just want to go and they just want to fight they you know what those guys need to do they need to get out of rugby and get into some MMA if you want to fight you should be fighting man and I would tell them that I'd be like look bro you're a bad [ __ ] it's obvious you you're you the reason why you're trying to fight at bars is you need to be testing yourself in in that way in in a gym I agree get get out of rugby [ __ ] well get it knuckle up son take a leg kick defend the choke [ __ ] come on stop it with your stupid ball that's a goddamn euphemism who gives a [ __ ] what happens with that ball you take away your nutty score thing with one oh you got a point woo oh no they did what we didn't want them to do that's all nonsense what you doing is trying to stop what you really want to do what you really want to do is one onone manto man someone your size no mechanical advantage no weight Advantage let's see let's see what's going on let's see what's going on so any rugby player that shows up and wants a fight stop being a [ __ ] out I'm going to send them to you just I will help them I was saying you're a bad [ __ ] there's a rage inside of you you need to project that [ __ ] in the right way and this ball thing isn't working out right you need to leave that ball alone nobody gives a [ __ ] if you get it across that line that's nonsense you're playing a game oh you kicked it between the two sticks the world has changed no it hasn't nothing's changed okay you still you're fighting off those bullies that [ __ ] with you when you were in the seventh grade what you need to do is some [ __ ] kettle bell son some body weight squats learn some jiujitsu choke some [ __ ] out get it out of your system there you go stop
fighting in bars stop letting the demon alcohol bring it out of your body I agree with you cuz they just bum my [ __ ] they harsh my buzz they do Har they harsh my buzz too man because the the guys that are that that get it out in the gym they don't look for it anywhere well I'll tell you what when you drink the real you comes out and the real me is just a jovial 80-year-old man I'm like [ __ ] Buddha I'm just sitting there drinking my drink I'm having a good old time and you know when you see these dudes come out and they have a few drinks in them and they get all you know rified and you're just like yes you know anyway it's not necessary it's not it's not good for them they all need hugs what they all do man and I my you know you and I you and I both know if you're a real fighter you won't fight in a bar no well why would you want to hit someone that doesn't want to get hit it doesn't want to fight and if they do want to fight is it possible that can to be avoided with talking and if it's not they're probably a [ __ ] or or you're crazy fighter you're not going to find a bar someone's going to take that's not true there's guys like tank Abbot that will fight you anywhere they'll fight you on a plane he's a real fighter it's just that's that dude that's what he's all about you know he's not about you don't most professional fighter a guy like tank Abbot is he's one of my favorite fighters of all time and one of the reasons why is not cuz he was the best not CU he was the most technical or won the most titles is that you genuinely knew for a fact 100% no doubt about it if you [ __ ] flap your gums in front of tank Abbot he's going to make you swallow your teeth it doesn't matter if it's on a Greyhound bus or on a [ __ ] space shuttle he's going to beat your ass and there's a reality to that that I find refreshing like drowning in the ocean or or getting hit in the head by a meteor there's certain unavoidable consequences to being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong that's why I say most of the and you know many more than I do but the most professional fighters or fighters who you know do it for a living aren't going to get to a fight in a bar cuz someone's going to take a ball to their head [ __ ] up your hand you can do something that or they would and they
would clean out the whole bar and you have a real problem on your hands cuz it's only 10 a guy like Randy Couture and Dan Henderson I don't know if this is a true story or not but there's a legendary story about those two guys in in college when they were both like Elite wrestlers just cleaning out a ball you know I don't know if it's true I never talked to Randy about it but but what I can tell you of what I know about Randy I've been around that guy for I I saw first fight in the UFC and he fought Tony halma and then he fought this really promising kid I forget his name Kevin something or another and he he beat both of these guys and I was like wow this guy is a stud like this this guy is the the the real [ __ ] deal he is one of the friendliest people you could ever be around you would never imagine that Randy cotour would ever get into a street fight if you're talking to that guy whether it's in a bar or a Denny's or a bowling alley he's a smiling handshaking comfortable pat on the back gentleman like you would never imagine that anybody would ever find themselves so [ __ ] that they would be in a fist fight with Randy cure did you ever hear that story uh about Tyson and there was a guy B blood green yeah yeah they fought in um in a bar and didn't he hit him no no no it wasn't even in a bar it was in a um what are those fancy words for uh when herdashery or something like that when you get like a dopee ass [ __ ] pimp suit made yeah it was like 2:00 in the morning in Harlem and Mitch blood green had been taunting Mike tyon forever and Mike broke his hand Mitch Green's face but didn't Mitch Green had like 28 surgeries to like cuz well he broke his orbital I believe he yeah he caved in his face he broke his hand on his face caved in his face with one punch and you're just sitting there saying okay with one punch he caved in dude's face you had to have 28 surgery and by the way this guy's a this guy's a professional fighter yeah well he gets paid to get [ __ ] hit in the face and you get one punch and it gives you 20 he accomplished what he wanted to do he dragged a guy into the ring that had no business he had no business challenging Mike Tyson he really wasn't at that level and by his persistence and his arrogance he really did get that fight
and you saw but you saw in that fight why he wanted that fight and why he wanted that fight is Mitch blood green even though he had no business being in the ring technically with Tyson he didn't get stopped Tyson beat the [ __ ] out of that guy and he couldn't put him away that was an amazing fight if you think about it cuz Tyson was in his prime that was the Tyson that was just starching guys just Tyrel bigs was an Olympic gold medalist was just running for his life trying to keep the jab on that guy Jesus Christ he's just ripping to your body with that right right to the body in that right upper cut that [ __ ] was legendary and Mitch blood green made it through that and the reason he made it through that is the same reason why he wanted to fight Tyson in the first place he was convinced that he was the baddest [ __ ] on the planet but he got his face caved in sort of he did he got beat up but he was all right I mean it's really amazing when you think about it cuz who the [ __ ] was training Mitch blood green you know I mean I don't I don't know who his trainers were I mean it might have been someone really good but I had to think about his approach it was there was a part of it was kind of brilliant forced Mike Tyson into fighting him yeah you know but that Mike Tyson that was the that was the best Mike Tyson that that era that Marvis Frasier era sure that was uh that was our our Joe Lewis you know that was our Sunny Lon that was our our whoo that that one guy that Mitch blood green thing man that was a long time ago we're like old man just talking about old fights we're old as [ __ ] we're like this sha Johnson I'll tell you I'll tell you about a guy who used hit he hit you and you'd stay down they hit you with one lick it was all over what what was that video you told me to look up earlier to see if it was uh what what the name was for vice because I I I typed in Hyman Vice and that's not that H Mo H Mo H Mo's Arctic Refuge that's it yeah h y h Mo's Arctic Refuge is what it called what it's called that that got me sold and then uh then David chose uh search for the din the dinosaur did you hear about speaking of H Mo so we went to Hino we went to the the the the Arctic this guy lived out in the middle of nowhere and you know he lived with
his his wife out there and literally in the middle of nowhere he was the most isolated person on Earth until they found I don't know if you heard about this this Russian family you hear about them in Siberia they were like Russian Orthodox and during the Communist Revolution they went up to this mountain that's nearly impossible to get to and they lived in this little Shack and and and and they lived like they didn't even have shoes which I don't understand CU I don't know how you get not get frostbite in Siberia but they'd wrapped their feet in like birch bark and Moss and [ __ ] and they were you know they they're eating seeds and they lived up there the guy was like 90 years old and they finally came in and he had his family they were there and they were like 70 and 60 and [ __ ] and they finally arrived and they had like iPods and and everything and and when they got there they they had lived this whole time people that showed up had iPods not the the family had not been isolated since the 40s right I believe the 1930s yeah it was the 1930s they had been isolated up there they didn't know about World War II correct did not know about World War II correct they didn't know about anything and they had literally like sort of learned how to how to make [ __ ] out of bark and everything and they you know complete survivalist [ __ ] how many people were up there I think there was six of them and then and then they all died it was weird because they except the one so this is an interesting story they they they they they they got found and they found out oh there's another world out there and whatever and then one by one they died very quickly after they got found except for like I believe the youngest daughter is now in her late 70s and she went you know to the nearest Siberian town and sort lived there for a while and said you know what screw this and she went back she's like 77y old woman back by herself she went back by herself and she's still there so we wanted to go up there and do like the Hao the most isolated person in the world which was was H it's a woman it's a woman and she's in her 70s and she's going back up this mountain where you can't like do you hear that [ __ ] okay all you [ __ ] weak [ __ ] complaining I got to get up at seven to be at the office by n9ine are
you [ __ ] kidding me there's a 100 Carl Juniors on the way to work you're complaining there's a 70-year-old crazy [ __ ] on a donkey and it's 80,000 degrees below zero and she's by herself in Russia 600 miles away from the next nearest person she prefers it she prefers it up there she went back she went back Jesus [ __ ] Christ guys what's wrong with that crazy [ __ ] I bet she has a [ __ ] like a softball mitt and I and I bet I don't even know what that means but it's just a [ __ ] a thickly padded wall and a lot of pressure she could catch a ball imagine the weird [ __ ] that happened amongst those five six people sexually for for no but for for 70 [ __ ] years no Jesus alone [ __ ] Mountain it was continuous Orgy at the end they probably checked them for sperm there was nothing left it might be awesome no you're [ __ ] your kids and your sister so shut up you're that's [ __ ] communism yeah I don't think it would be good okay I don't think it'd be good to have no TV I think that shit's nonsense why not be a woodchuck but they were eting out there eating beavers and [ __ ] your kids I don't think that's way they eating like bark and [ __ ] oh no that sucks bark off your son's dick when was the last time he had a Diet Coke what look at that guy is living in [ __ ] he's not he's in 2013 but he lives like these are the questions that come to me when you're like okay these people are eating bark and putting you know moss on their feet for shoes and I'm sitting there going boy they're just bringing us more more booze you're thinking do you want to survive the zombie apocalypse what I was what no but what I was going to say to you is and this is a serious question right oh no is in no not that serious but when you look at [ __ ] like that and you say okay okay these people are up there eating bark right and there's a lot of [ __ ] happen we were talking a little bit earlier how much of your life revolves around oh yeah there you go how much of your life revolves around the pleasure that food booze oh yeah you know uh we were talking about this before the podcast even started about making the choice between booze and food like if you could eat whatever the [ __ ] you wanted and be healthy and live
till you're [ __ ] 90 and all that [ __ ] or but you couldn't drink this or you could drink but you can't eat [ __ ] you got to eat cardboard and [ __ ] grape leaves oh okay well I'm I don't know where grape leaves came cardboard and [ __ ] grass I truly believe that living without good food and living without uh I mean if you're got to survive you're you know if you're living in The Walking Dead and you got to shoot deer and [ __ ] that's all well and good but we're talking about in this day and age I'm talking you have a choice if you have to make a choice between I can eat my favorite [ __ ] or I can drink booze and and and have the added sort of Crank that that gives you to everything you like well what I was going to say was that the the idea of you know subsistence living is although frightening that food is delicious eating deer over a campfire that's a really yummy tasting food if you're saying like shitty food like cardboard tasting bland food that's a big the enjoyment of the day in my opinion a meal with my family I think is uh I one of my favorite things in life and that sounds like sounds utter like utter horseshit to single people does but um the real idea is like sitting down with your kids and having a laugh and having a meal I I think that that whole process is is very important and nutrition is very important but for me the taste is very important as well I think it's important to eat things that are delicious it it's like a it's a a part of like a pleasurable aspect of life and so if I had to choose honestly between drinking booze and eating delicious food I would go with delicious food I think delicious food is more important because I've experienced the booze and I understand the lessons right the the lessons of the dropping of the inhibition and the good aspects of alcohol which are often overlooked by people who just can't handle alcohol sure you know like we were we were talking before the podcast started about not there's a there certain level of trust that you have where someone's willing to get drunk with you yeah like you know that guy's demons they're all they're all right there they all come to five or six Jack and cokes you know you telling a story about Tiana and you're like holy [ __ ] how did whoa what did you
tell your mom well I climbed into my you know what I mean it's like you get to know a person like and you realize that there's no benefit in hiding all that [ __ ] from people you love anyway there's a benefit in telling them and the sort of camaraderie that ensues from those drunken conversations of of complete and total honesty where where the alcohol does a purpose instead of inhibiting you and making you make shitty decisions the alcohol releases you from this this idea that anything makes any sense whatsoever and you start telling the truth or you start or you start looking at things from more relaxed perspective even temporarily where that thought gets planted in your mind and then you just have more of a sense of friendliness the next day like right you know oftentimes it's it's little encounters that steer us and uh like I remember this an Anthony Robbins quote who uh believe it or not I've I've listened to a lot of his books on tape and read his books and he's got a lot of interesting ways of looking at things that I really think are enabling but one of the things that he said is that sometimes if two people are going along the very same path like think of yourself as like two boats if one boat just turns one degree to the right like over the course of the boat's motion through life just that one decision can lead it so far away from the original path that it was on yeah and that often times it's a good time that leads you you know and it might cost you a day or two of being hung over it might but there might be that phone call where you call each other on a Wednesday like I had a [ __ ] great time dude that was fun but it doesn't even have to be I'm not even talking about like a crazy [ __ ] boozy [ __ ] you know crazy time because the reason why I asked the question is because whenever I meet people I like and I respect you know I I like to ask them questions because I believe that's how you learn and so I have this this maybe this problem because I'll tell you what I grew up poor I grew up there poor I left home at a very young age and and a lot of what I learned I learned you know initially through books you know so I'd read books and and then I that's why I have this sort of uh intense curiosity about the world because I'm like oh [ __ ] I'd like to go there and see that for
myself so anyway speaking of uh Chernobyl so I I I go to the Ukraine you know I'm I'm not you know I'm just a regular [ __ ] dude from butt [ __ ] nowhere and I go there and I have this uh dinner and and and and they bring out these potato pancakes with sour cream and caviar and vodka and all this [ __ ] and I'm and you know I think it's the first time I at caviar and I'm eating it and I'm like this is [ __ ] awesome and you love caviar right off the bat yeah first time I ever had it now granted I was a few vodka in but you know like I'm drinking the vodka and eating the caviar and it's Russia and it's crazy we're out in the middle of [ __ ] no it's not Russia Ukraine we're out in the middle of [ __ ] nowhere and it's some crazy CAC [ __ ] it's going down and it's I'm like [ __ ] this is like living in a book and it's crazy and I I literally had one of the best nights of my life was like living in a in a in a in a book from the 1800s so I had one of the best times in my life then you know so for for the longest time I'm like I [ __ ] cavier is my favorite [ __ ] food and this is the greatest thing in the world then I was shooting in Iran so I'm going to Iran where the best cavier comes from now and I'm and in my hotel room in my sorry in my hotel in Iran the only Hotel foreigners can stay and they sell caviar in the lobby so I'm sitting there in the lobby and I go [ __ ] yeah I'm I love caviar that's my favorite [ __ ] now man so I go and I buy the caviar right in the store it's like the best is I don't know I bought like $10,000 wor the caviar for 100 bucks or some [ __ ] so I get it and I go upstairs but they don't have no booze right because it's Iran so I have like orange Fanta and some chips in this cavar and I'm like this is just [ __ ] salty [ __ ] fish egg this is what the [ __ ] tastes like [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is this does it only taste good when you're drunk is that what it is well I think this is the whole question that I have is that like when you have a big [ __ ] fat old steak with a good you know glass of red wine how much of it is the [ __ ] red wine and how much of it is the steak when you have your Linguini and clams with a nice [ __ ] crisp [ __ ] white wine how much of it is I don't Dr white wine I'm very well whatever how much is the [ __ ] is the is the talk and the the thing around
like you said de meal with your family how much of that is with the family and with the thing and then so when I was sitting up there in in in in this [ __ ] shitty [ __ ] hotel room in Iran eating this [ __ ] you know carrier with Fanta I'm like actually I probably just enjoyed the [ __ ] evening right you know I enjoyed the people and the craziness and the [ __ ] vodka and the caviar and the fact that I hadn't had it before and everything went [ __ ] AP [ __ ] and all that stuff not ape I shouldn't say AP [ __ ] it was it was a very [ __ ] transformative evening right and then when I just had the straight up cavier like man I don't cares about this it's so funny what a contrast yeah and so so when I was asking you the question because we were talking about food and you were saying like you know if you have a bad back you shouldn't eat the pasta I'm like you know the [ __ ] I love [ __ ] pasta no what I was saying is that this uh chiropractor that I was talking to uh over the weekend she was explaining to me the influence of uh certain uh Wheats and uh glutens and how it inflames tissue and that you can get a substantial anti-inflammatory response by just cutting weed out of your diet I I agree with you that there's a pleasure to eating that I think is like super important there's a pleasure to eating and a pleasure to drink I I mean I like to could I smoke weed and and not drink cuz I would take that that's the problem no me for me weed is like that's the one that really made a big difference like I think alcohol has played a good part in a lot of uh positive aspects of my life as far as like joyful evenings and having fun with friends and you know telling them that you love them and hugging them and and you know even whatever uh romantic altercations you know not with the boys no girls bro cut the [ __ ] Brian but as far as like what what transformed me as a human being though marijuana is more important yeah Mar marijuana was to me like there was like a almost like a missing piece to my sort of conceptual puzzle of like how I interfaced with the with nature and with the world I was like why am I so goddamn aggro you know and then all a sudden I find weed and I was like boom I know yeah I know a lot for me actually booze was my savior because I
was hanging out with a lot of dudes who were doing some serious you know bad bad drugs and my whole thing was I don't want want to be 60 years old and not so I always have this my idyllic sort of retirement which I'm trying to get to sooner rather than later now is just like this sort of Forgotten like little Cove you know little Cove can I be your neighbor yeah and I'm chiping for Wi-Fi solar I'm sitting there at this I'm going to send you this I'm going to send you this uh this article of this dude how old are your kids uh three and one and a half dude I got a four and a [ __ ] two let's have a party I'm going to tell I'm going to send you this how old you your boys or girls girls okay we got a big lesbian super slumber party going on I I'm going to send you this article it's a fantastic article about a dude who was diagnosed with uh lympo lympics like the worst cancer you can ever and and he was a Greek dude he grew up in America but like you know came here when he was three or some [ __ ] so he goes back to Greece to this little island in the middle of nowhere and he has to walk up this hill every day he goes to talk to his buddy he's drinking the wine he's eating the food from the from wherever and all of a sudden like 5 years he was given like you know 6 months to live or whatever not even 6 weeks to live and and they said you know what the [ __ ] happened you didn't die and he goes you know I came here and I forgot to die because you know he's sitting there and and there's no stress and he's walking up the hill every day and he's he's drinking wine with his buddies and he's eating the food from the you know the fish from the the bay and the [ __ ] whatever and I sit there and I say you know now I'm looking at this [ __ ] so my idilic retirement is basically I'm stealing this guy who killed cancer by living this euphoric life of I live on this little Cove and I'm drinking my wine and I'm sitting out there and I'm just blissing out on reality now that's why I didn't get hooked to heroin that's why I didn't get hooked to [ __ ] crack that's why I didn't get hooked to all the [ __ ] that my boys got hooked to because I always was thought to myself if I [ __ ] get hooked to this [ __ ] I'm going to have to a die or B [ __ ] quit it and if I quit it guess what I'm never going to be able
to sit on that [ __ ] Cove with my glass of [ __ ] wine sitting out there and being this Blissful old Buddha dude right so for me that was booze but I will say this we were just in Jamaica filming the Snoop stuff over New Year's and Snoop Lion and we were in this place and stupid lion I love how you went with that the like how the greatest guy one of the greatest guys in right he's one of the best and by the way now more than ever cuz like that that shit's been through [ __ ] that guy's been through [ __ ] we don't even [ __ ] understand oh yeah and but anyways you know so we were filming down there and I was in Jamaica and you know genuinely I don't smoke a lot of weat I was smoking every day I was drinking rum every day smoking every day I gotta tell you I felt like I felt like God was touching me in my I was like I felt [ __ ] spiritually [ __ ] you know what you got to start doing eating it when you eat it that's when you really get into that sort of uh psychedelic love State it's very feminine it's a very feminine sensitive State you know and a lot of people are afraid of that you know they're afraid of that it's going to make you a [ __ ] or it's going to you know that but you're not afraid of [ __ ] you're not afraid of [ __ ] I'm not afraid I'm afraid we're afraid of s and [ __ ] afraid of a lot of [ __ ] you know people always give me oh you're afraid of [ __ ] mountain lions and yeah one ate my dog yeah you know are you afraid of meteors yeah I watch some TV show but they come from the sky like goddamn Torpedoes yeah I'm [ __ ] scar all that [ __ ] you're scared to die joe that's why not scared to die I'm scared to get [ __ ] up and suffer you're a happy guy you have a good life and you don't want to die my whole thing when I was a I'm also aware well when I was a kid I didn't I I thought I was going to die so I didn't give a [ __ ] I do anything cuz I'm going to die who the [ __ ] cares why did you think you were going to die cuz I was going to die I mean you know everybody I grew up with you know when I was a kid died because we were bad guys doing bad [ __ ] people die all that stuff well how bad were you guys like what did you guys was the worst thing anybody you did I mean everybody who does like blow farts on people no Brian
so it's like you know look you do some gangy [ __ ] you do oh gangy [ __ ] but you're doing Canadian gangy [ __ ] yeah exactly how bad can that's like going far time how bad can you be but no you know look people get it people get into junk it doesn't matter if it's by the way this is a surprising thing well they get into everything but you know generally the the the end result is is well now it could be met but heroin and the thing is is even in in shitty sort of nice Canada people end up on junk or they're doing they start doing more and more serious crimes and and this is one of the reasons why my my Cove was was my dream was because you know you have guys who are dying of heroin overdoses or guys are going to prison for life or Worse getting killed and and you know these are 17 18 19 year old kids and you're sitting there saying that's the biggest tragedy is you never [ __ ] lived your you a teenager you think you [ __ ] lived your life you haven't lived [ __ ] you haven't done [ __ ] you haven't seen [ __ ] and one of the reasons why I say I'm going to go out and I'm going to see [ __ ] and I'm going to do all this [ __ ] whatever is because I didn't [ __ ] die yeah but at a certain point you sit there and you say look you know and I know how hard life is we know [ __ ] what good things are or can be right and and can be and also we realize there's a lot of people who didn't make it you know there's a lot of people who just for one one reason or other they don't get to where you are and so that's why now anyways you know one of the reasons why I like coming here and having these discussions with you is you know you you can actually say look I've come to these [ __ ] realizations and and look we're two guys who are saying you know we don't need to [ __ ] fight we probably had [ __ ] 100 fights you know between us like you know we're not I've never I've had no street fights I had the last street fight I had I was in high school it was it a really quick smar man than me I'm I'm I've avoided everything but I've had actual fights I've had like three kickboxing BS I don't know how many tawo fights but there was a lot of them but I've never had what I'm trying to get at is I you know when you see fights in in in in you know this
isn't me trying to do one up but you see fights in in Iraq or you see fights in those fights are different fight those fights are like they shoot you in the head fights you know sure so what I'm trying to say is you know you want to get to more of a of an understanding and this is what I go back to like I don't give a [ __ ] what people think about me I don't give a [ __ ] about about that [ __ ] because when you see it you sit there and say on this hand this [ __ ] got shot or this guy got into heroin this guy got into this now to go back to this is very long- winded but if you go back to it what do I want to do I want to sit in the Cove with my family your family hanging out relax have a drink enjoy myself I don't know how much food and although I'm a fat bastard I don't know how much food is going to play into that but I definitely want to be sitting there with that glass of wine looking out at that Cove and just going a [ __ ] it I mean and that's why I don't get that's why I don't judge anybody cuz I tell you what everyone's trying to get through the day to get to their godamn Cove you're 100% right I I yeah right 100% right I I agree with you so much but uh we live in a beautiful world where you don't have to choose between the food and the Boo and I'll tell you what I'll tell you what Happ we do live I I got to tell you you know we live in a [ __ ] country where you can still to this day make your own [ __ ] happen yeah which which most look I'm an immigrant from but but I made my [ __ ] happen in this country and I got to say it's the best country in the world and there's a lot of countries out there we don't realize how [ __ ] up they are and how bad [ __ ] is there and we should [ __ ] say you know what you can do anything here in America so you should you know when you say that it has so much more weight than the average person including me saying it first of all cuz you've been everywhere and second of all because you came from another place you grew up in Canada so when when you come over and you see this situation there's no question this is not perfect and I think we all agree on it I think but it's [ __ ] fantastic it's better it's better than it's ever been we we what what we're doing right now is we're we're figuring life out and we still have a lot of old standards and
old traditions and old things that we abide by that don't make any sense and they trip us up we step on our own dicks but I think ultim we're moving forward in a direction of progress as much as people like to be cynical about the possibilities of the future I think just where we are today in this country despite the eroding civil liberties all that that's all good on paper but the reality of the progression of information through the internet is we're we're taking the world to a different place right now it's not cynical to criticize it's not you're right and you know what America and democracy was based on honesty and being critical and being allowed to be critical cuz you couldn't say [ __ ] the aristocrats [ __ ] the king and all this [ __ ] they cut your head off so democracy is based on people like us sitting there and going you know what the political system isn't right and guess what the political system will not change unless [ __ ] like us and everybody listening to this [ __ ] podcast do something about it and that's what America is you're right 100% but more importantly the people who are in the positions of power it must be reinforced that we are all living in this temporary State and to make the most of your temporary State you can enjoy the Bounty of your work and the fruits of your labor and the the the overwhelming uh a affluence that you get from having successfully figured out capitalism but it's possible to do that in a way where you don't [ __ ] people over and you promote freedom and love and all of those are possible in fact you have to and if you did you would be more happy and more successful you have to you know I I'm going to tell just this one quick story but I was hanging out with a guy who inspired the [ __ ] out of me and he was this he's he was the president of the Maldives there was a 35y year uh dictatorship there he got elected Against All Odds and he did all this [ __ ] like um you know underwater uh cabinet meetings and stuff to to to bring uh awareness to global warming because his country is uh sinking and so he was going to buy land in Australia or Sri Lanka or India cuz he does not going to have a country anymore and then the they they ousted him and he has this flotilla going around the Maldives which
is actually like the size of Europe but like Islands so he's these fishing boats and I went on the these these these fishing boats with this guy's he's called the the Mandela of the malds because he's been in jail most of his life and you know I was hanging out with this dude and you know one of the interesting things that this guy was doing is he's just saying look you're you have to you have to you know take individual control you have to say look unless we do it unless we as a community [ __ ] say no to this [ __ ] it's going to continue because people don't want it to [ __ ] change right they just don't want it to change even in America they don't want it to change but the thing is is do you think that people don't want it to change or they don't want hold on I'll tell I'll tell you so this is my second point is is you know for the people of the People by the people and you sit there and say the people this is the country the first country that was that was set up not for the aristocracy but for the people and the thing is is I think that was forgotten because if you actually look at the people and what the people want and what the people can do people want a good life but they're willing to say you know what [ __ ] I don't want to [ __ ] have you know all this garbage or whatever the [ __ ] radiation or whatever the [ __ ] is I don't want to have this this uh uh uh you know threat of of of of of war and all these things if you look at actually if you talk to regular people people are sane people are good actually when you were talking about it people actually if you hang out with your neighbors people are inherently good people are inherently [ __ ] nice yet all this [ __ ] bad [ __ ] happens right and you're saying why does that bad [ __ ] because people let it happen is it because people let it happen not necessarily because someone has to be initiating it I mean someone has to be willing to take it to lost the train I thought cuz you guys are doing some weird [ __ ] over I was wondering what are you doing there was I don't know what you're doing over listen there was a roach I left on the table I was trying to figure out where it was put oh yeah I was getting into some deep [ __ ] and I no no no I'm sorry I really apologize I'm sorry I didn't mean to
distract you I just I thought you could keep your train of thought I couldn't I'm a visual I'm a visual guy this place totally has roaches it's an old well it's not yeah exactly there's bugs here I think it's a moth ate my sweater um um I'm sorry I'm sorry so what what what was your point just scared of roaches what I will say is that I think [ __ ] place is haunted I think because I think because of where we are with the the the transference of information like we're doing with Vice or like you're doing with your podcast we're not doing [ __ ] say that right now if the government is willing to arrest people but that information gets out I got to say information does get out Wikileaks this that the other thing information gets out now and by the way that's what's keeping governments in check because mainstream media is not keeping [ __ ] governments in check which is their [ __ ] job and they're not doing it well as you it's really interesting you just brought that up because I was reading on Vice about the Bradley Manning testimony that you guys have released like what what's going on with that what is that explain that well I think look the the thing the thing that that that we're looking at is how much of media is actually you know so we actually did this story on Iraq recently that is the thermobaric weapons that were destroying you know so if you if you have to do house if you I'm doing it again it's like a panto [ __ ] touch my head with a ghost it's a pantomim I'm sorry I'm sorry if Brian snuck out behind me he's very childish if you look at what happened in Raa you know they had these thermobaric weapons what's a thermobaric weap it's if you do if you have to do house toh house fighting which traditionally is the worst fighting you can do right very difficult they have this weapon where they can it's called a SM me and what happens is they shoot it into a building right and it does a heat blast which which uh uh sort of takes all the oxygen out so it kills you right away and then it and then it has this massive heat blast and then it implodes the house right the problem is is it's suspected that this is a thermobaric weapon is made from depleted uranium so what
happens is all that dust that goes out there becomes uh you know radioactive radioactive or chemically Laten and that possibly is responsible for the first Gulf War syndrome that no one really sort of figured out corre exactly correct and this huge increase in in in in in uh uh can rare cancers and and and uh amongst veterans well well amongst veterans and also and locals yeah people who are living there and so uh you know we you you have these sort of incredibly bad I'm I don't even know what the [ __ ] I'm just telling them no more weed saying get away from me with your devil devil weed devil cabbage the devil's cabbage sorry so keep going I've I've forgotten where I was do you remember what he was talking about this is really devolving no no no no no no we don't we don't normally drink on a podcast we're going to get bring it all back I'm having I don't know what I'm talking about anymore but I'm having a great time matter at the at the end of the day here's here's what here's what matters here's what you are saying what you are saying is that you are seeing the best and the worst aspects of humanity and you truly are seeing this because oh yeah that's what I was going to say is that these thermobaric weapons have done these things in Iraq and you know what I'll tell you what is no one would have ever never reported on that before why because there you weren't you couldn't there W there weren't the actual tools to do that and for example us just having this discussion today and what we're talking about the like it didn't exist before yes because if you were you know the Washington Post even though they they you know deep throat and Nixon and all this business you know you because of your proximity to the Pentagon you can't lose your [ __ ] seat at the [ __ ] white house table they'll tell you whatever now we can sit here and say okay those thermobaric weapons by the way the story was broken by a marine uh Ross caputi who's a marine who fought in fua who saw the thermobaric weapons the Marine broke the story and said by the way this is what the [ __ ] was going on and I'm breaking this story because I saw what happened in fuja this is a [ __ ] Marine who's saying this and you sit there and you say because of the [ __ ] movement of information and
by the way we're on the cusp of this me and you as we sit here and have a few drinks this is why this is why you have to be honest so to go back to the story now I've realized if you look at Wikileaks and you say okay is WikiLeaks good or bad I believe that the Freedom of Information is imperative to democracy unless you have transparency unless you have accountancy unless you have people who accountability not accountancy accountability unless you have people who are going to be held accountable for what the [ __ ] they do then it's not democracy then it's not there's no different than here's what I here's what I think about Bradley man go this is the number one most important thing there's no way they should have put that guy in solitary confinement there's no way they should have isolated that guy from the rest of the world there's no way they should have made that guy feel like he was going insane because he longed for the human touch and he knew that he was being punished for releasing information that's inhuman and that's unnecessary with a government that doesn't have anything to prove if a government is being honest and is not hiding anything it doesn't need to take a guy like Bradley Manning and put him in some horrifying state of detention where he has no rights there's no need for any just loving government to treat any of its citizens like that but let's be honest our government is not honest I I understand that but that to their own self there's no benefit in Behaving the way they're behaving and that's what needs to be reinforced is that I think they have this idea or I I don't say they as in like some conspiratorial like Overlord what what I think some people who are scared of losing their position of dominance what they're afraid of is they're afraid that people are going to understand what's going on and they're going to take over and they're going to lock them up and they're going to isolate them from I've actually you know I said something in this podcast one time when I said if you ever go to a war zone I can't remember exactly but I said you cry and then you puke and then you freak the [ __ ] out and I had so many people respond to that and they were by and large I would say about 98% U exmilitary
because if you if you if you talk to the people who go to these things they're like oh [ __ ] I didn't know what the [ __ ] I was getting into when I signed up for this [ __ ] [ __ ] I did not have a [ __ ] clue and you look at that and you say okay before we go to war before a government sends people to war before Dick Cheney sends people to War uh saying that it's you know Al-Qaeda is being sponsored by Iraq or Iraq is having weapons of mass destruction all of which is completely made up and by the way made up by the government that the mainstream media then said and by the way everybody who had half a brain knew that [ __ ] the secular state of the bath party was totally against Al-Qaeda there's no way Al-Qaeda was doing anything in but 9/11 was the [ __ ] you know the the sort of cart blanch to go in guess what these [ __ ] lost their lives they lost their limbs they're [ __ ] you know pissing out of [ __ ] catheter bags now and when I said you know when I first saw a battlefield I [ __ ] cried my eyes out because it's what was the first Battlefield you saw the the first real one was Afghanistan say wait never mind and and and when you see Afghanistan Afghanistan when where where were you in in in kunar Province and in uh on the Pakistani border and when you see it you just go okay this is the worst [ __ ] I've ever [ __ ] seen in my whole life what did you say you see bad like okay you if you want to get into it there's guts coming out of cavities there's hands there there's severed heads there's like the bodies are not even well they're not human beings anymore just it's like cow parts or some [ __ ] there's blood running into rivers there's but more that's the dead people aren't so bad it's the wounded because these [ __ ] aren't going to walk again they're going to be [ __ ] out of a bag you know they're young kids you know and this is the other thing I say is like I we're sitting here debating well my Cove with my wine or would you have a steak or would you have a glass of boo these [ __ ] kids they're never going to be normal again and you sit there and by the way I'm not I'm not I'm not saying you can't you you can't police the world and I'm not saying that there aren't bad people out there that have to
be bucked down but I am saying if you do that you better [ __ ] be cognizant of the fact that when you're sending our best and our brightest and our [ __ ] nicest [ __ ] kids out there that they're going to be coming home with no leg legs and no arms and [ __ ] out of a [ __ ] bag unless we realize that then we should never go to [ __ ] War having uh having seen that is a a perspective that very few people not a lot of people in the military know and the kid and people in the military are coming back and it [ __ ] them up so much they cannot re-enter into [ __ ] society because when you see that [ __ ] it [ __ ] your [ __ ] wiring up I think we're still operating under this this Behavior pattern that was established before the kind of communication and understanding that we enjoy now exists that's exactly my point and my point is our job is to say guess what you know we're not sitting here are saying don't go to war don't go to war what we're sitting here saying this is what happens when you go to you see the guys a lot of the guys in the MMA came out of uh the military I met a kid that had been uh pronounced dead I I was it was multiple times I don't I mean this guy was trying his friend was trying to explain to me the amount of times this kid had been pronounced dead and brought back to life and that he was it was unbelievable and the amount of Courage that he had shown he apparently he jumped on a grenade and it was it was a an intense intense intense conversation and all I could think of was this guy unquestionably was a a hero from a Joseph Campbell story you know what I mean I mean he there was what what what's exhibited in a true hero is beyond ideology Beyond politics and political influence and be Beyond special interest groups what he exhibited is the thing that we aspire to the most the person is willing to literally sacrifice their own being for the the the health and the welfare of the whole he was willing to dive on a grenade for the rest of his crew I mean that's an incredibly incredibly honorable human being well we have Heroes we have real straightup heroes but the whole thing is is you know what I don't want to send our heroes or or I don't think anyone in the world that's not even I don't think
anyone in the world should send their Heroes to fight a war that isn't philosophically correct that isn't back very true you know and I think true heroes the the the real heroes should be guiding the rest of the heroes we should figure out a way to make people exactly understand what Warfare is truly all about the people who went and fought should be the [ __ ] voices that we hear about next time we go and fight because they're the [ __ ] that know what [ __ ] time it is and guess what no one listens to them and I'm going to tell you one thing about this podcast is whenever I say you know what I [ __ ] saw that [ __ ] and it was bad the response I get from from people who have been there they're like exactly exactly exactly and I agree with you 100% if we're going to go to war then we should listen to our [ __ ] veterans because it is not [ __ ] pretty and the people who who make the decisions to go to war are not the people that ever have to go fight those [ __ ] those are the only people that are going to understand that reality that reality is so extreme that it can be sort of Justified and glamor ized and glossed over in a fictional sense by people who have never experienced it under the threat of their own life expiring and that's the reality that those people have experienced that no one who can make their decision from an air conditioned room with a custom designed suit should ever be allowed to do exactly the only people that are going to understand that reality are the people that have experienced that reality and as a whole as an organism that respects itself and wants itself to evolve we should all collectively get together and say this is completely unnecessary for what we're all looking for and what we're all looking for is happiness and we can all compete and all of these needs to accomplish and Conquer can all be satisfied in a very ethical way like this idea that we have to continue the gas Conway is nonsense and if if there is a war the the people who are making that decision have to understand and have to talk to the people who have previously been there cuz if you talk to anybody who's gone to Vietnam if you talk to anyone who went to [ __ ] Korea you know during the Korean War if you talk to anybody from World War II World War I Afghanistan
Iraq Bosnia anywhere they'll say don't [ __ ] do it yeah do not [ __ ] [ __ ] do it because it's [ __ ] bad it's really [ __ ] bad now are there bad people there of course are there bad [ __ ] [ __ ] out there is North Korea [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] do you have to Buck them down of course you got to give them hugs they need all hugs they the North Korea needs the most hugs out of anybody ever they need someone to take them and give them hugs and say listen man that's going down right now by the way that's going to be like any any day hour you're going to see I'm telling you North Korea if you listen to me please I know this sounds crazy but you've already accepted Dennis Rodman so I know you're over the deim you know Kim Jong whatever your name is Sir love God I'll call you God listen God he's monkey Todd on Twitter everybody knows everybody knows that you need a hug okay you know I know we all know let's accept that you're the dominant ruler of your situation but you shouldn't be because you would be way happier if you weren't you'd be way happier if you let all those people go you'd be way happier if You released all those political prisoners and slaves and whatever the [ __ ] you've got going on there with your wacky laws and the people that were in prison cuz they didn't cry long enough after your dad died if everybody was let out and everybody said all right settle everybody settle the [ __ ] down let's vote on this [ __ ] let's let's be cool with each other let's be nice to each other and the dominant person the dominant ideas the most accepted ideology will pretty much always rise to the top and the exceptional people that can influence the groups as long as they're doing it in an ethical way and as long as they're truly trying to advance their culture good but they all need to have a a certain amount of of reality in their own head and a certain amount of humility in their own head and a certain amount of experiences with dark situations or or or bad moments in Life or understanding of failure or psychedelic experiences what or whatever the [ __ ] it is but I would say for the first time and maybe I'm being naive but I would say for the first time in history because of the uh um internet and and the freedom of of movement of information that you have
this this young you know population this huge massive Global young population that most obviously is causing change in in you know Arab Spring like in these countries where you know Gaddafi was never going to [ __ ] leave you know Mubarak was never going to leave and forcing change in there forcing change in Europe forcing change R because young people are pissed off they're unhappy they're poor they're broke they don't have a lot of uh uh opportunities and they're sitting there saying we're going to force change I think that that change is coming to Asia yes and I think that that change you I think that change is coming is is a is is a global uh phenomenon the the world economic crisis has forced us to wake up saying there's a lot of young people out there and they're [ __ ] pissed off and they're going to [ __ ] [ __ ] up and they're either going to [ __ ] [ __ ] up in a in in a good way and by the way I think Arab Spring is a positive thing um there's going to be an implosion in Europe uh if it hasn't already happened and we're just seeing the aftershocks um there's even [ __ ] Happening Here In America which by the way I'm not afraid of because I like change I like things to be sort of in Congress I think the Americans political system the America the political system in America is broken because you have Congress just fighting each other over things that are detrimental to what what's going on they all need mushrooms they do they need mushrooms everyone does it sounds like nonsense somebody needs to force them to say hey yo they need a mushroom experience have to [ __ ] work together for the betterment of this country and the only way to do that is to take IA cuz what they're doing is they're working against each other and they're [ __ ] [ __ ] up Salvia dorm is legal in 36 states do it I'm reset do is I'm resetting Friday get a Motel 6 and a bong and let's get this party started all you need is one of those butane lighters you got to heated to a certain temperature Shane do you know anything about dolphins because I'm swimming with one Saturday and I can't stop can I can I tell you something yes I'm going to tell you the truth all right so I went down to this dude which I'm not allowed to talk too much about
but I'm going to just say his name Johnny pagazzi Island in in Panama and I was on a boat that guy's going to get some email I was on I was on a boat and I went to a super pod you know have you ever heard I've heard of those recently right so I was on a super pod with 3,000 Dolphins right 3,000 Dolphins 3,000 3,000 dophins hear about that in Mexico that's an ory that's I saw on Craigslist okay so what happened is they gave me you know what a c Bob is it's like a James Bond [ __ ] thing you C no it's a little it's a little jet engine that you can keep up with them cuz they don't they don't like you if you can't keep up with them seriously like well they need to [ __ ] get over that [ __ ] judgmental [ __ ] anyway so I had this Seabob and I were you born with that fin or is that some [ __ ] you earned I was going on my Seabob and I was going with the superod there's 3,00 this is what I got [ __ ] on cuz they [ __ ] a lot I got pissed on I got come on I saw a a baby dolphin being born there was orgies okay stop right there which one of those got you the most hard no but I I got to tell you what happened so a CR shirt so I was on the Seabob thing and then eventually because the Seabob [ __ ] ran into batteries I was holding onto the side of the boat with my thing my you know snork on my mask and that's when all the [ __ ] and the pissing and the coming happened what but cuz they're all [ __ ] all the time yeah they're [ __ ] like continually I'm shaving my back for this sat yeah they just they they [ __ ] they [ __ ] they [ __ ] and they [ __ ] and they piss but and and and in a super pod there's just all this matter there's all just kinds of like bits bits of [ __ ] and what that are going all over yeah just everywhere do they just come in the air so this this was me this was this was me being [ __ ] pissed and come on I was just going I was trying to talk to them I was trying to talk to them through my snorkel cuz if cuz they come close to you if you do they come they come straight up to you and in fact how do you know what you're saying though what if you saying don't let me Tap Out Joe they have the [ __ ] on YouTube like like these videos of all the mating calls I've been training for like two week two but I came they rap they'll come straight up
to you kill whale jum they'll come straight up to you they'll come like within two inches they'll check you out they like to give you the eyeball they want to check you these were Spinners and Spinners are the most right it's like it's like Koreans yeah I wish that I could talk to a dolphin but I sawed them into a g i saw more [ __ ] into the Super pod then and and and by the way I came out of that the water I came out of the water covered covered in [ __ ] piss and from and I've got to say I've got to no no I got to say it was [ __ ] awesome it was [ __ ] a because because because you're in the middle of you're in the middle of like they're doing some crazy [ __ ] in their society you don't understand what the [ __ ] they're all talking to each other they're all talking to each other what does it sound like there's like you can get down there there's so yeah no there's talking many so they can talk to each how many dolphins are there in the superod there was over 3,000 oh my God okay there 3,000 dolphins and this is just a wild [ __ ] fest yes that's exactly so you're down there you you got a scuba helmet on and all that [ __ ] have a I have a Seabob what and and it's basically just you and a wet suit right no wet suit a pod right no there's no pod you have a little engine that you push on the button like this there's a little tiny engine to keep you you can't swim as fast they can swim fast as [ __ ] but they do this the reason why they're called Spinners is they do this thing where they're having sexual talks with and they spin up into the water so you see like hundreds of dolphins spinning up in the air but when you go down into the water there's thousands of the Dolphins like like like [ __ ] and and like you know having babies and [ __ ] and pissing and everything and they're just they're they're like they're actually just hanging out they're before we came along and stole all the tilapia I bet that [ __ ] was a party and a half I'll tell you what that's exactly what it is it's it's not tilapia but tuna tuna whatever how long ago were uh do mean dolphins have been the same state for a million plus years is that correct yeah and and that's the interesting thing about it they have language they have uh social norms they have all this they
have they have names names for each other all this [ __ ] their cerebral cortex is 40% larger than a human being the hottest dolphin is the actually the pink dolphin it's the rarest one so that's like that's like you know the Japanese girl with the big tits that's the Angelina I think that's Brazilian Dolphins got some big ass is that is that a saltwater or a freshwater dolphin is Brazil right yeah of course they the big ass they have the biggest ass look at these asses on these Dolphins I will say I will say I will say Spinners are my particular F Spinners are what also called 90 lb freaks I've never been I've never been happy until I was accepted by the spinner P you've never been happy as a human that's ridiculous I finally have found out my did you ever watch Saturday Night Live where you were on amphetamines Joe I'm doing Joe I'm doing this Saturday you know that right Saturday I'm I'm swiming with the dolphin do it I will say it's [ __ ] awesome explain what you're doing what are you doing it is [ __ ] awesome it's uh they're putting me in what this guy has this like pool about the size of year pool it's like regular swimming pool like a regular swimming pool but he has like four dolphins that just shoves in there and you just pretty muchy pool yeah and he has like this yoga music on and you just [ __ ] swim naked around this back pool how long have these Dolphins been in this pool I don't know why I don't know how he has is this some sort of porn [ __ ] in S no no it's not in porn I don't think it's porn I really don't think it's porn CU they get horny you know that I know very hor wait a minute wait a minut wait a minut wait a minute where are you going do this San Diego that's a bit weird it's not a pool it's not like somebody's backyard he's he's going to get give me his address when I get there [ __ ] oh my god dude you're getting raped listen don't do that you need to talk to my lawyer what are you doing you out of your mind listen to me listen no I've watched he sent me video links I've watched for people at home going how [ __ ] big is Rogan's pool it is a totally normal backyard pool I don't have a crazy pool at all it seems a lot smaller than it should be honestly it's a regular pool if anybody has four dolphins in my pool
you're an assle okay you don't need to congregate with those type of humans I will say this I have I have some proclivities to play cards and uh I went to Atlantis to play some cards and I swam with the dolphins in Atlantis you know you swim with them and whatever at a good time they're nice dolphins everybody's nice but I got to tell you one thing when you go out when they're wild [ __ ] in the pods they're they could [ __ ] you up they could kill you bite you [ __ ] you up in a second and you know what they want to do with you they want to play with you they want to talk to you they want to [ __ ] hang out with you and then you realize these are nice nice dolphins the Sharks will [ __ ] you up the Sharks will get you and eat they're looking for meat they're looking to [ __ ] well they're the cleanup crew but the Dophin the Dolphins by the way dolphins eat meat dolphins eat meat the same as sharks do and and dolphins will [ __ ] a shark up but what the Dolphins for some [ __ ] reason they have this weird Affinity with humans they won't kill you they won't eat you they won't [ __ ] you up they'll save you the sailors always tell you the [ __ ] Dolphins don't have it together either most dolphins do I don't know because I'll tell you one thing I've been I swam around sharks and I was [ __ ] scared and when I was swimming around Dolphins I was not scared at all they were very they know were very poite very nice they're like [ __ ] massage parl they're nice settle down [ __ ] they don't have thumbs and they know we have guns it's that simple they don't have thumbs and they know we have guns they're not stupid what's going on here is that they realize that Evolution has blessed them with the ability to move through their Waters as if they were flying through the [ __ ] sky like superheroes and they don't have to breathe for minutes at a time they can always get to the surface unless some crafty Japanese dudes have manufactured some sort of a netting that tra them in the water I just like to say things have gotten real weird on not weird at all dolphins dolphins are the AG of the comfortable it's a life and death struggle and the reason why dolphins are as ruthless as they are is because life
demands that at the top of the Pyramid of [ __ ] craziness you're bit weirded out by Dolphins no he is Weir he's going to like it he's married he's married he's a bit weirded by Dophin no there's a there's a there's a bit that I dophins and wrote about something we figured it out dolphins and S that's even the that's what about bigod what if there was a dolphin that became werewolf yeah what about all that what about syphilis you're being rude you're being rude by eliminating a lot of my fears and trying to categorize me as some sort of a normal meat head Jo why don't we do podcast like this every day think also I think also I think also my question of food versus booze has been answered thank you very much you're right I haven't I take a cardboard sandwich with good PA and that'd be fine dude I have not at taste it anyway you ate yet today yeah I've eaten several times oh my God I haven't ate yet I'm I'm ready to kill a buffalo [ __ ] I'm ready to go to Aubrey's hunting camp and kill a buffalo yeah I need a lot of red meat man it's very important it's imperative to keep my [ __ ] I thought the red meat was the inflammatory [ __ ] nonsense the real issue no it's the highest thing of cholesterol ever the real issue is Brian what is that word hey I'm trying to hey I have to worry about about you now you're getting what's the word fart monkey grassfed [ __ ] grassfed battle ropes real inflammation as far as animal tissue there's a lot of it that's been correlated to cows eating corn my problem is I everything I love it to eat I love eating food I love drinking here's the problem with cornfed beef godamn delicious okay A riye a solid RI eye over mosqu charcoal you were talking you were talking about when you first saw Vice you're like I saw your Chernobyl [ __ ] I said the first Rogan podcast I ever heard was you know how much [ __ ] [ __ ] it takes to make a skirt steak or a strip steak a strip steak you were talking about a strip steak maybe it was Anthony bour but somebody you were talking about a a a a strip steak and you were saying this [ __ ] steak they take it out of the whole cow and this is the [ __ ] thing and you put it on the God damn barbecue and whatever and I was sitting there and I was like why the [ __ ] isn't he talking
about Porter House cu the Porter House has the strip and the and the filet in theone with the bone so it's got the best of both worlds it's like a Sheil like we were talking about best of both it's got the it's got the filet and theug and the [ __ ] the [ __ ] bone so anyways the first uh uh podcast I ever heard was talking about steak and that's when I fell was it Anthony oh you fell that's sweet I'm glad we're it's mutual I don't know how this feels like the marathon like 3our podcast when when I met Anthony Bordain he was one of the first guys I was like I hope this guy likes me it would suck cuz if I I love him I love his shows I love what awesome and what he's done is awesome yes well who he is he's so he's so honest about his intentions about guy who food and [ __ ] make it into what he did listen let me tell you something about how committed Anthony is to food he takes this drug so that he and still eat pork he takes some sort of was lipor or whatever the [ __ ] it is some anti they they literally said to him you must change your diet you're traveling all over the world you're eating because he's got too much cholesterol exactly cholesterol filled fatty foods make a decide you have to make a decision it's either lipore or it's it's no fatty foods you either take this drug so he takes the drug he doesn't give a [ __ ] he like he's like I want the Pork yeah I eat it well pork is the best well pork cuz if you go to any country beef generally sucks America the beef is fantastic but generally it sucks because beef is is needs a lot of you know grass and a lot of food and a lot of water so beef in most countries is [ __ ] but pork like when you have pork from a third world country or or Yard Birds the best yard bird like a yard bird that's what I call those never mind like a bird bird that lives in the yard is that a pigeon no chicken chicken but they'll just like let's say you go to Jamaica right right they have a yard bird they just go out and kill it they take it and they cover it in chili and they barbecue the [ __ ] out of it not jerk everyone always talks about jerk chicken it's [ __ ] barbecue chicken in Jamaica and it's the best [ __ ] thing you ever eat why cuz it's just a yard bird it's just been eating the [ __ ] [ __ ] whatever same thing when you go anywhere else you just yeah
well you can people don't realize that like you can take like your scraps of your table scraps the same thing with pork yeah if you had a bunch of chicken you can throw in the backyard they can like very well Yard Birds are the most delicious [ __ ] you'll ever have in your [ __ ] life what we have here is some Purdue genetically modified [ __ ] yeah but if you ever have a Yardbird just from anywhere like they just wrote tisser or put it on a grill do whatever the [ __ ] it it's the best you know you sit there and you go this what the [ __ ] am I eating this is the best thing ever let me ask you this because I have I have two inclinations and one incl ation is to be in the woods on the top of a mountain with a well and experiencing nature and the other inclination is to be in the hive to be deep inside of Manhattan on 20 BL BL Street in the middle of more of on the mountain guy well yeah yes and no it's like I don't know what what where is the gravity coming from is it coming from the masses of humanity who although imperfect at the moment might be trying harder to work [ __ ] out or is it from this sort of reluctant agreement that the Earth is much more powerful than the culture at this point in time it's better to just isolate yourself from all these idiots who haven't gotten the information yet and get your own water from a hole in the ground I think you know again that maybe the quintessential question of the Modern Age but you're you're in both spots CU you're in a guy you live in Manhattan you have children so you're on that next level of sensitivity but also I I spend the majority of my time out there in the [ __ ] and I will tell you this when you actually have something like for example like you said if you kill a deer and you you you cook that on on Open Fire nothing tastes better than that you're right however the thing is is this might be my paranoia you got your sink holes and your werewolves my what I think is happening is there's there's a global restructuring happening yes there is there is a global restructuring happening that people are seeing there calling the greatest recession since the depression they're they're saying well this is this and this is that I think this is the new normal so to be honest
and I'm not necessarily proud of this what I love about New York City is I kind of feel like Nero As Romans burning because I believe New York City is the greatest city in the world I believe it's the capital of the world culturally and economically and politically for that that matter and you know when you go out in New York City you know it has the best restaurants in the world it has the best night life in the world it has the best I believe it has the best everything in the world I'm a huge fan of New York City I'm not from New York City here's the problem I'm not New York so I say wrong well it does and so you can [ __ ] off [ __ ] but what I will say what I will sayy God is when you when you go out in New York City right now today and it might be Shanghai in 10 years whatever but today New York is the global capital and you can go out in New York City and you can like me come as a penniless immigrant and become a [ __ ] Rich [ __ ] who can go out and have the greatest food and by the way that food can be like a dollar spring roll at the Vietnamese place or the best steak at Peter lugers or whatever the [ __ ] it is New York lug new New York will give you everything New York has everything it's fantastic God damn it I'm moving to New York Brian pack your bags no I'm not going we got Blue Cross Blue Shield but Jam's with us but where where are we going where are we going underground to a bunker where the crocodiles where are we going is and where do I feel the happiest is I feel the happiest out in nature I feel the happiest at Sea I feel the happiest in the forest I feel the happiest grilling meat over a grill you know all this [ __ ] bring Manhattan to the forest but what I will tell you is I don't believe that the that the sort of Roman back and alien craziness that is New York today is going to be around that much longer Roman back and alien well Roman like the end of Rome the Roman Empire and back in Alien bakus the sort of uh the god of wine and drink and partying how obscure are your references sorry I know it's like sh sh ver times who black is God of booze how do you know about these people I read books [ __ ] okay I understand this back alien it means boozy it's been three times during this podcast that the mag safe electrical
cord connecting to my laptop has dropped off through my flailing hands that means it's a good dude you have a battery it lasts 3 hours you don't have to worry no no no I'm upset with apple why did you change this shit's 100% charg right now they change their charges all the time stop playing games no right now I finally at 45 years of age am a part of an actual company that sells things and one of the things that I realize is you can decide to make more money you [ __ ] are you peeing no no but hey IC tea IC tea the rapper no he wants I tea oh okay no you meant to say we never came up with the olive Gard Olive Garden Olive Garden yeah just keep the keep the camera off my man as he meditates into a a trans a a trans that means he has to snap one off a transcendental meditation point where he understands the point of view that he is in right now does not represent where he will be in Infinity is if he is in fact a soul and if a soul transgresses from one point in history to another over and over and over until you get it right now this sounds like hippie [ __ ] but do you understand that Helio Gracie believed in this Helio Gracie said something once if you don't know who he is his real name isn't Helio Gracie I say that for all you white people who don't understand how Brazilian people pronounce things but they pronounce the for whatever reason he IO Gracie h e l i o was pronounced ilog Gracie that's how the Portuguese in Brazil use that that word ILO Gracie he said something once and he's the guy who trained Hixon Gracie and hoist Gracie the original winner of the UFC one and the UFC 2 I mean hoist Gracie changed the entire face of Martial wasn't he the dude who also said I'll take on all commer all weight classes and we'll will will pay 10 or 100 Grand or whatever the the the number changes but he said I'll take on any fighter any weight class and I'll fight them not only did ILO Gracie do this he did this when he was 140 plus pounds he was like 145 he developed a method of using leverage and using technique to submit guys that were much much much larger than you okay he trained Hixon he trained ho he trained some of the most influential martial artists in the history of the world and one of the things he said hold on a second one of the things he said is that
you live this life and if you make even one mistake and you live this life incorrectly you will return and you will do it all over again until you get it right and that sounds crazy I heard about that I was like oh you [ __ ] why you putting all that [ __ ] on me there's no way any any body's ever going to live this life perfectly and get it and then I thought if anybody knows if anybody understands the path of man in its truest form without without hyper without directing other people's insecurities back on different folks to alleviate the pressure of reality if anybody is going to understand who what the [ __ ] is really going on it's going to be 145b man who's willing to take on the greatest Fighters any but any fighter any fighter any style any [ __ ] weight that's insane kamora broke his arm with a Kimora with K it's a shoulder lock it's the catch wrestling guys call it a double wrist a double wrist lock but this technique became known as a kamur he broke BR his arm ILO wouldn't tap out he let him break his arm did you ever see the thing I did I went down to uh sa Paulo and and Rio um and I hung out with the Gracies and I hung out with the fighters down there the valley tudo guys they are the [ __ ] toughest dudes in the [ __ ] world the the valley tudo guys are [ __ ] oh no it's a crazy way to live now they're all fighting MMA they're all fighting UFC well they they do that now because they realize there's prosperity in that yeah they can they can get out of the of of of the favellas but they are the toughest [ __ ] alive down there yes what one of the most beautiful things about what alio said what Elio Gracie said when he said that he would like that that he literally had sort of figured out a way to test who you are and test what you could figure out and test what you could do and he truly believed in these most extreme of circumstances literally fighting these much larger much stronger men and letting them break his arms he believed that if you live this life that you must do it correctly and if you did anything wrong anything contrary to your spirit or contrary to the the the soulle or the collective idea of humanity as a whole
being of the utmost importance so you the one who is tested must represent humanity and in that saying that if you made any mistakes you would do it again I was so scared when I when I when I read that I was like that might be the one of the most frightening things I've ever read in my life CU he might be right what if that guy in his battles literally almost to the death I mean he was fighting anybody the modern day Kum Blood Sport small man exactly and he kicked the [ __ ] out of everywhere dude I weigh 190 lbs that means this guy he was 145 lb he anybody liter 45 lb more than me that's an ins less than me that's an insane amount of weight and this guy would take and I wouldn't take on anybody in the world he would take on big giant people and in throwing himself into the fire he had an understanding of human life and of human nature and he he sort of in some way relayed that to the can I give a shout out and can I tell you one story are you giving a shout out are you a are you a black guy or a white rapper can I give a sh what's happening here I would like to give a shout out to one guy who I met he's a guy named Matt Ruskin right and he was in the Marines in Iraq and they had these fight clubs in in Iraq and they would the the Marine the were for like force Recon these were tough motherfu [ __ ] and he was doing this uh they had these fight clubs and they would fight the the [ __ ] out of each other and he he's like 200 lbs and he would fight guys who were 250 he would fight guys who were 150 he was fighting them he beat them all and he came back and he started doing MMA he started fighting MMA and he hooked up with this guy uh one of the Gracies and and taught him Brazilian jiu-jitsu who of which he was I believe five-time world champion uh the Gracie uh I'm forgetting his [ __ ] name he's [ __ ] amazing a Gracie yeah he's a Gracie and I went down to brailer Gracie what we does he uh compete at heavyweight heavyweight he was Heavy he was five time world Brazilian jiu-jitsu champion and uh well well hoder is not quite a heavyweight he he competes in MMA at 185 I I don't think he fights any more but he was he was he was a Brazilian jiu-jitsu Champion five times global Champion anyway Matt Ruskin hooked me up with this guy we went down to do you remember his name at all see I
Gracey that's the problem goddamn it uh but but he's a he's a big big [ __ ] heavyweight heavyweight yeah yeah heavyweight gracing yeah I went down if you can look it up I went down with him on you know shout out to Eko shout out to heavyweight Gracie shout out to anyway but but I gotta say this Matt rusin the Marine fought in Iraq came back started fighting with the Gracies took me down there showed me what the [ __ ] was going on and I've got to say you know I learned the story of the Gracies from the Gracies when I was down there and that story of you know Brazilian jiu-jitsu and him sort of taking on all comers uh with with the Bounty uh you know like if if you can beat me I when I heard it was a million bucks but I think it was actually more like a 100 Grand what year is this this is in like the 70s and 80s this is like the valley tudo times wait a minute a heavyweight Gracie from back then no no now the the Gracie that brought me down see I'm going to get holl holl gra no Hollis Gracie is very famous but well Hollis the the son of Hol right it's h [ __ ] I'm going to I'm going to get in [ __ ] for forgetting his name well that's okay think about it for a second he's a real good looking guy he he was a model real goodlooking guy pixon pixon is the most handsome of all time and the greatest of all time this guy was actually a model in Brazil I'm not gay bro and Matt Ruskin if you can if you can tweet me is his name was graci and he was a model yeah model and a great figh somebody lied to you and got your par that structure at Sears and five time Global Jitsu Champion now we are now in a swamp of disinformation and true no Wikipedia and someone could tweet us right now here's the problem we don't have an actual name here let let me tell you something at my phone I'm not I'm not Matt Ruskin email me his name I'm sure Matt Ruskin has probably got a good Gator rooll maybe an an choke or Victor Gracie Victor gra good half guard he shaves this guy was more of a Jiu-Jitsu straight up let me explain something okay first of all no [ __ ] I've been doing Jiu-Jitsu since 1998 and I've never heard of a Gracie heavyweight he seems like a Victor a heavyweight he's a heavyweight who won World jiujitsu
Championship I understand okay holl Hollis Gracie in MMA who was um he's he beat Bob sap I think he's uh he he fought in the UFC once he lost but I think it was more of a uh case of a when a when when a guy immediately gets thrown into the UFC there's a thing that happens calls called an adrenaline dump where you get in front of uh the the big cameras and you think about the Hoist Gracie fights of 1993 and you panic it's like the overwhelming input of the the the the moment is is too much and Matt how are you I'm here with Joe Rogan we're talking about the Gracies let me talk this and I'm saying who's Danel Gracie Daniel Gracie that's well Daniel gra Daniel Gracie World Jiu-Jitsu Champion how many times three times yeah so he's he's a global uh Jiu-Jitsu Champion uh Daniel Gracie here I want I'm gonna put you on to Rogan hold on a second talk to him by the way Matt ruskin's [ __ ] awesome dude and hey Matt hey what's going on man how's everything can you hear it yeah uh what's up Matt what how do you know powerful Shane Smith from vice.com all right Shane Smith walked into a [ __ ] gym that I used to work at and I basically told him he need to lose weight he how rude first of all how rude how about how about hey settle down first of all how about you tell him first and foremost that you love him you don't have to go right into you're you're a fat [ __ ] and you're gonna die I love him he knows how much you love him you say that but is that to alleviate the own the pressure your own oh no gay stop this is a late night podcast there's a lot of dudes that are listening to this in the shower I'm sorry keep going Matt all right so he knows how much I love him don't don't let him fool you no gay stuff bro we're we're this is late night so we just became became friends after that and I did some work with uh with Vice before before fight land they did this whole thing with me when I was training for one of my fights uh they sent that their friend around with me for a while but we went tell them about when we went down with Daniel Gracia uh went to Jordan to weapons bizar with him Daniel
Gracie yeah he went down the with with Daniel here's the thing about Daniel Gracie Daniel Gracie is a very very very talented Brazilian jiu-jitsu fighter but his real last name I don't believe was initially Gracie I think he sort of he kenzo's cousin Enzo's cousin yeah and I think his his his mom's name was Gracie but his dad's name and his birth name was not Gracie right no his birth name is uh Viera yeah I believe this is what I believe I believe he's a very talented fighter but I believe this whole idea of connecting yourself to the word Gracie is is ultimately very self-defeating and and when a guy does that I I almost want to pull him aside look Daniel you're a bad [ __ ] whatever the [ __ ] your last name is it doesn't matter you know you need to get your your head wrapped around the fact that that's all [ __ ] Gracie is a great name but in it's 2013 and when he was competing 8 n 10 whatever the [ __ ] it was 2000 it doesn't matter what what matters is how good you are and adopting the name Gracie almost makes people think like oh well this guy's trying to get a little extra attention for for no reason the the the the World Championships are the world championships and you either mount a guy you take his back you tap him whatever you do you either do or you don't do and it doesn't matter if your name is Marcelo Garcia who's unbelievably respected I mean Marcel Garcia is the top of the pyramid when it comes to Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu in the world today in 2013 or Gracie it doesn't matter so whatever his name was what was his real name I think the family name isier or S one of the two mat how many times have you been high in your life don't lie to me how many times what have you been high in your life more than 10 is it more than 10 yes so we could probably go camping together how many times you ateen pot brownies and thought about chicks you fingered when you were 14 you were really upset like Kyro Gracie way more than 10 more than 10 that's why I love talking to you Matt let's keep it together Matt but there was a few guys that did that uh the Gracie thing where they use the word what I'm going to say is Daniel Gracie
whatever you want to call him what I'm going to say he's a bad [ __ ] but by the way he took us around Brazil he took us to the valley tudo gyms he took us to the gyms he took us with Matt and I got to say it was [ __ ] I got to say you see a different level of [ __ ] down there than you will see anywhere else they do these guys train like [ __ ] do you hear this Matt and do you agree with this the craziest thing I saw down you know I was in the Marine Court irq4 we walked into the flla we were in the complex of the AL which was at the time was like the worst of the worst and we had to go ask the boss if we could come in there and film so the boss said yeah no problem just don't film the kids with the guns and we're looking around we're like What kids what guns we take like a left turn down the street and I mean it was just wall to wall 14y olds 15 year olds with like military grade weapons I mean you got a picture the look it was like board shorts flipflops you know like a 1989 Luther Campbell like gold rope chain with a medallion you know mou to mou or side to side mount gold teeth [ __ ] you know collapsible stock M4 with an acod grenade launcher the whole night I mean these kids were armed to the [ __ ] teeth and everyone that we went down there with was just looking around like holy [ __ ] listen man you never end a story by saying like holy [ __ ] I understand you have a very good story I was with however you leave us confused I'm going say this you at least can give us a respect of of the end I was I was with Matt on that and there was there was 14-year-old kid what happened next because it was all a blur because like I said probably was high from like you know one of the 11 times in my life don't lie to me Matt say yes yes okay listen bro I feel what you're saying and I was only [ __ ] around I was feeling some Dead Space where we're trying to re-calibrate our reality due to your circumstances and your story being Paradigm chiting Joe you're so [ __ ] up I'm not that [ __ ] up listen I want to tell you Matt man I'm giving you a shout out I love you this guy [ __ ] is an awesome guy xmarine and a fighter I love you Matt man I'm very sorry that you got
dragged into a podcast it was just a phone call for you and all of a sudden Shane Smith talking about some crazy [ __ ] and you're like godamn it I got to tell the truth cuz I'm Matt but but but Dani I'm Matt rusin and I don't give a [ __ ] but Daniel Gracie is a badass [ __ ] yes unquestionably what is his real name Matt what's that Daniel Gracie what is his real name the last name the family name is viea or Samoa is one of the two I know I know and I completely by the way I want to let everybody know there's no judgment involved in that whatsoever I completely understand why someone who especially was in a situation where they were a very talented guy and they were trying to maximize the the the sort of the the spread of their name as far as possible and the word Gracie because of Hoy and because of Horan and what they were they accomplished in UFC 1 it was one of the most important moments in the history of martial arts would you agree Matt I agree it's it's for people who don't know the history of it or weren't there when it's happening as martial artist it was one of the most important moments ever it's like all of a sudden we found out what really works right right and those guys that name that Gracie name that shit's like Q-tips or Kleenex you know it's synonymous I don't give a [ __ ] about your tissues if you have tissues made by Craft macaroni and cheese if they're right next to Kleenex I'm taking the kleenex okay cuz they dominate as does the NFL they dominate as well you know what I'm saying Matt Jesus Christ back me Up's def I gotta tell you I think the name was given to him by HZ 100% thank you Matt thank you in what way like Daniel uh Daniel was a they fighting inide they told him to take take the family name you know why do you know why they were all fighting in do you know why cuz they're smart [ __ ] cuz they're smart [ __ ] and they know how to make that paper son Matt don't don't freeze up on me now we're in the deep end of the pool Matt and we're we're not close to the lip hang in there did you see the new trailer that are you with me buddy I'm sorry listen Matt I need to apologize to you as a human being you
didn't know what the [ __ ] was going on here you get dragged into this conversation Shane Smith calls you it's uh where do you live sir no don't tell me East Coast West Coast or Mountain Time east coast East Coast oh dude it's late as [ __ ] what I'm what I'm trying to say is Matt is an awesome dude do you hear this Matt no what' he say he said Matt is Shane Smith just said Matt is an awesome dude and Daniel Grace's an awesome dude and Daniel Grace is an awesome dude and what and what they trying to discredit any of that we're not trying to discredit any of that Matt you understand this correct Joe you want do a shot no not yet in three minutes listen what's important Matt is you understand that I respect and adore Daniel Gracie and anybody gets in there I just think that uh if I could be have been there when henzo and all those other guys were trying to talk Daniel into using the last name Gracie so let's think this [ __ ] through something vand Silva did pretty good with the name Silva okay okay we're gonna be fine we don't need Gracie we're okay are you Gracie is your name henzo it is henzo do you support this Daniel character yeah what the [ __ ] difference does it make what noise you make with your mouth it represents his last name are we cool Jesus Christ for the greater good of the humanity of the world how about we forget about Imperial dictatorships and names that dominate Sports history you feel me Matt did you know eating marijuana is different if you hey Matt Matt Matt I'm sorry dude this is so rude tell Matt you love him I love you Matt I'm so sad that I dragged you into this and even though I did it with No Malice say Matt 100% Matt Rus with just Matt Ruskin I didn't do this to be mean I just did this because that's my nature I am the Scorpion you are the Frog this is how [ __ ] goes down I didn't mean to do this Matt Ruskin is a beautiful hey Matt Ruskin will you do will you do my podcast I would be happy to do your podcast sir I'd be honored if you would do my podcast when would do will you do it with Shane I would definitely do it with SH of course the heavens have just opened up in a hot tub in San Diego with a do no stop it no dolphins and no
Shaman ask him if he's ever experimented with a dolphin Matt yeah just tell him you love him Matt have you ever watched a rodeo and felt sorry for the Bulls what's that nothing listen Matt I love the [ __ ] out of you even though we've never met he's a good man if Shane Smith says you're a good man you're a good man do you feel me all right let's let's move GL said that okay Jihad hey can we give a shout out to Mountain gr Green Mountain Grill gonna go I'm saying Green Mountain Grills are badass Matt Rin Matt Raskin and Daniel graci are [ __ ] great guys you C on yet I just want to give you your shadow man I just had my first cookout that was one of the most the least entertaining that no that that was dude that broke my face that's that was one of the funniest [ __ ] things I've ever seen in my life my face hurts Joe tomorrow tomorrow you're going to look at that video and you're going to be like listen I just typed Daniel Grazy into Wikipedia I don't even remember doing it oh how about that you crack me the how about that huh badass [ __ ] though and hoger hoder Gracie is one of the most graci's full stop are badass [ __ ] yeah hoder is fighting in uh the UFC I believe get man I want to say he's fighting Tim Kennedy but I I'm not hold on a second let me pull that up what are you laughing at this the funniest episode ever you know what I dragged this guy I met him online you know can I can I say one thing can I say one thing yes sir I'm pissed off why because I saw a tweet cuz I follow you on Twitter you [ __ ] yes and wait a minute and somebody was tweeting their shoes yes that they made with your design yes and I don't have those shoes no they they ask that's Jill that's Jill who does the calendar for Des squad. TV she if I don't get a pair of [ __ ] if I don't get shoes with that design that I can wear every day well and then I'm going to be pissed off before you request the shoes understand that Brian is in the middle of number three that's like pooping and pissing pissing out of your butt that's what what what he's do about listen don't listen I don't even know what that [ __ ] means stop listen there's are
noises come he panicked right now he's on cat number three there was death squ cat number one who originally was my favorite that's the one over your right shoulder right there that's death squad cat number one but then once I I fell in love with the Wendy's cat and the second cat is my favorite can I say one thing Tom Ford is making money off of doing these uh Baroque slippers with like Baroque old things and I'm saying oh hold on what's baroke like you know tapestry I'm tired of hearing that word not know tapestry is from the 17th century he's taking tapestries making slippers out of them selling for a th000 bucks I want a red [ __ ] man [ __ ] shoe that I saw on Twitter and I the fact Jo shoes yeah the fact that I don't have those shoes I don't have sh I want to wear those when I go to the Academy Awards although I haven't made a film wait a minute that's the thing you want to do yeah no no no no it's the right thing Joe we got to come to an agreement no Academy Awards okay you don't go to the death the Death Star death squ not the death squad the Death Star I don't get a pair of those shoes I'm [ __ ] pissed off okay we need new shoes we need like and a I want slippers that he has designed and made otherwise I'm [ __ ] pissed off listen Brian does not have any time to design and make slippers he does because I see him on Twitter listen Brian and I have been working together for at least what a decade now 2003 a are those bad those are badass shoes badass gotos by the way I want them but I want the more plushy no doubt about made out of sort of uh how long have been we've been working together for 10 years okay this is the most important thing with Brian you can't tell Brian what to do you can't let Brian can't put any pressure on him you can tell them look at least a couple of days a week you have to show up and do this but other than that you got to leave them alone that's the only way these hypnotic cats get discovered I will fight cuz you're not going to come with that [ __ ] if you live in a [ __ ] cubicle and you're panicking taking Aderall all day just to get through your workload I will fight hoist Gracie if I can have a pair of those shoes you say that you say that but no one thoseo no one has ever gotten you into a proper
rear naked choke if you really felt [ __ ] if you chok and the if you choked me you would win in three 3.2 seconds but I would I would be wearing the shoes comptition man well you'd win I'm giv I concede but I want the shoes I don't even know how we got to this point I don't know either telling you we've gotten off track the kids the kid's on his way to but by the way [ __ ] that your shoes are amazing your designs are amazing not his I know I said this last time this is what I'm telling you I said it last time your [ __ ] designs are good I want those [ __ ] shoes I understand what you're saying but what you need to understand is the next cat is going to be on the next level why you putting the pressure on me you're going to be looking at the other cats you I'm like [ __ ] those slippers I'm I'm Death Squad news I [ __ ] want them chocolate filled Twinkies we're not [ __ ] around dude you'll be like by the way your [ __ ] spine is bulging you're eating a [ __ ] Twinkie I'm allowed to have some [ __ ] shoes that's an old Twinkie Joe stop it's a it's a chocolate they don't even make that anymore tastes a lot like that [ __ ] you put in your tire when you want to fix a flat that expired a long time ago cockroaches and Twinkies are the only things that will survive the apocalypse what do you mean you're getting ready getting ready you're [ __ ] getting your Twinkies ready but I want my shoes ready as the [ __ ] bomb goes off I'm going to be looking right now for anyone right now collecting their thoughts and Gathering their finances on their way to the bank on their way to financing their very first yoga studio I want you to know I I know this this this podcast doesn't represent how you feel right now when you when you're when you're in that train and you're thinking yourself as you make the connection to the bus on your way to work I don't want to be that guy I don't want to be out of control worrying about asteroids within intestinal viruses that look like [ __ ] aliens grown inside my [ __ ] tracked I don't want to be that guy um how how does this help me death squad this helps me because Squad makes look because this helps all of us because we need all of the information about all
the possible realities of all of the human beings existing in this temporary state that we both exist in that you all three of us right now this 2013 can I say one thing you say whatever the [ __ ] you want Joe Rogan Taekwondo [ __ ] the voice of the MMA what how drunk is you Fear Factor Fear Factor Fear Factor and are you secretly tmy and and fashion [ __ ] Mogul Because unless I get those godamn [ __ ] shoes there's going to be things going to be Happ we're going to get those shoes and you know we're going to find this gal who made those shoes and we're going to ask her ask Jill himitsu that girl yeah see I know about my super fans I will say I will say one last thing cuz I this podcast has been going on for 800 hours but I will say this we got a show how about [ __ ] Joe Rogan Joe Rogan [ __ ] shut up between Fear Factor and your UFC [ __ ] and all your other [ __ ] but the [ __ ] podcast that you do and by the way I'm sitting here in a room with 700 cameras that red band is set up I'm sitting here doing doing podcast with you the fact that you do these podcasts and you finance these podcasts and you do these podcast I've got to say I [ __ ] hand it to you my friend I [ __ ] hand it to you this all means nothing listen let me explain this to let me explain this to you hey how about this how about this about this were in my position you would also know this take it how about this you got to take it you got to if I say you're [ __ ] awesome you have to [ __ ] take it I understand sweetie pie but here here's the problem with that you can never believe you I if you start talking to me in these crazy relatives and tell me how awesome I am I'm like this guy is basically full of [ __ ] okay and I'm going to tell you the truth I'm going to tell you the truth if you believe it lock it up and throw it in a dark place in the back of your mind no now see now this is going to be me and you in the back alley but I'm going to tell you the truth is you don't have to do this [ __ ] podcast you don't have to [ __ ] sit here and deal with [ __ ] like me but I will tell you that's when you're wrong sir because that Fear Factor money comes at a price there a mental mortgage I'm paying off us us us talking about this [ __ ] is is
because you [ __ ] paid for this [ __ ] room with all the cameras and the [ __ ] microphones I did not pay for this room this is mostly Brian's the only thing I I paid for what did I buy the cam the the iMac I bought that iMac I bought the mics I I give kudos to you and if you don't take it then I'm going to put this pen up your ass okay this is you normally I would say thank you very much but this why why do I get [ __ ] if I I'm not allowed to no no no no no you absolutely allowed to but I have to tell you that in this particular situation since we're at the ice house this was 99% Brian's work which I give him [ __ ] straight up Kudos well I'm trying to [ __ ] buy [ __ ] Footwear off of he won't give it to me well no no no he's not selling the footwork what I'm saying is that I don't have to do with it although he is this is strange situation but Brian and I have been friends and employees and I try to distance myself from the employee aspect as much as possible but he really created this whole room he decorated it the only thing he's a smart [ __ ] I our friend brandan gave us that picture Brandon gave us that picture I asked him to put that up and that's it other than that it's just uh it's all Brian's crazy you don't have to do these podcasts and the and the fact the fact that you do these podcasts no but the fact that you have Anthony bouran and the fact you have me the fact you have all these people on that is something special and I know we always get to this at the end of it but I got to say what you're doing with with Brian and with yourself come on now at least accept the fact that that's an important [ __ ] [ __ ] thing and by the way if you don't accept it I will do something bad with this listen I have a problem I got a t-shirt on I got my keys and my Knuckles and I'm ready to [ __ ] party I'm telling you you're asking me to take the Kool-Aid and to [ __ ] brush my teeth with it but not swallow ladies and gentl I'm not interested even though my gums have lacerations on them would allow the the the sacred liquid from the Kool-Aid to get into my bloodstream I'm not willing I'm not willing it's a it's I want everyone in the Joe Rogan Universe to tweet the [ __ ] out of him because Joe Rogan
is the [ __ ] man shut up this is alcohol there's a lot of douchebags that are me 20 years from now they're going [ __ ] that guy the reality I'm going to say I like Joe Rogan I like Red Band Death Squad powerful I love all you guys I love you I love almost three three hours in 5 minutes listen Shane you're a bad [ __ ] [ __ ] you I gotta tell you this is a very very unusual podcast but all podcast my favorite one of all time yeah it might be up there it's probably number one yeah the the my only weird thing about this is we only have real meaningful conversations with headphones and microphones and hold on I'm going to tell you this this you guys like I seriously respect what the [ __ ] you're doing and there are people out there in the [ __ ] world that are listening here and I got to say I'm [ __ ] stoked to be here and so if it's you and I'm nobody can see me or maybe you can't see me I'm pointing at you red man if it's you then [ __ ] thank you very much because you know what my favorite thing to do my favorite press ever like I have to do press all the time and by the way you don't even know what the [ __ ] I'm talking about because Vice sent [ __ ] Dennis Rodman to [ __ ] uh uh North Korea we have the [ __ ] only interviews with Kim Jong-il we have we have like number one [ __ ] [ __ ] that ABC CBS NBC everybody [ __ ] wants you know where I come I come to the Joe [ __ ] Rogan podcast and I'll tell you why because those are the only [ __ ] people I give a [ __ ] about and that's why I'm here I love you [ __ ] guys and by the way if that's your [ __ ] [ __ ] Red Band great and by the way you don't have your shoes man and by the way way way way by the way by the way you don't have to do this and you do it and I got to say I [ __ ] love you guys and I love what you do and you can tell me to [ __ ] off if you want but I [ __ ] shut up listen we love you too man it doesn't there's no need for anybody to take any extra recognition for what the [ __ ] is going on talking about no no no no no I I know you're not I know you're not what you're what you're trying to do is what any cool person tries to do is you're trying to spread the love as far as possible to as many people as possible the P the people that listen to this [ __ ] podcast are the people that I
give a [ __ ] about and I don't give a [ __ ] about well there's people that you give a [ __ ] about that don't listen to this because they don't know about it but the the the reality is that that the ethic of what Brian is trying to put forth and what I am and unquestionably without a shadow of a doubt in my heart what you're trying to put forward it it is what resonates with with a lot of the people that are sort of waking up in the middle of history and looking at this crazy world that is handicapped and sidetracked and and hobbled by these ancient Traditions that were written back when people couldn't even fly [ __ ] planes and didn't even have printed type and there was no internet and W unfortunately this distribution of information is far more Swift than the absorption of it amongst the people and the the altercation or the changing of the culture because of that information and you're you're at the front of the line let me tell you you're in the front line you are nonsense shut you have sent people to Alaska I have done none of this I put Brian on brw Closs what is it brw cross brw Shield cross Dental I'm going to tell you if we can finish with this one last thought if I can finish with this one last thought what is this one last thought why I need to wrap it up you you can't we just say Aba daa shaba Gazo snowflake what this thought is maybe it's about [ __ ] Dolphins right all right [ __ ] the Dolphins I love the Dolphins I don't give a [ __ ] what you say doph right team people team people team people goddamn it can I say one thing I love all you [ __ ] and everyone who's listening to this Joe [ __ ] Rogan death squad Brian [ __ ] Redban [ __ ] all y'all Shane Smith Tom seura arri shafier Joey Coco Diaz Duncan trussle Duncan Trussell suck it 2012 oh whoops I guess that [ __ ] didn't happen did it December 21st Daniel pinch pack where the [ __ ] were you with an apology and an explanation where were you let people know I want to apologize to Frankie Bole I got into a trt Twitter altercation with him this weekend and I just want to let you know Frankie you're [ __ ] I'm [ __ ] we're all [ __ ] it's okay boo just just stop fronting just stop fronting all right keep it together [ __ ] Shane Smith
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