Video URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYGG84s1a28
Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day [ __ ] I never got it until this year but they that's what they say that's what they say you get it within a couple years you get it and then all of a sudden you got it yeah I don't know who the [ __ ] they are but it's not bad I could hear it the other day I I heard it stuffiness I heard you I had it for like four days I've had stuffiness but thing is like when I work out I feel great the way I can really tell like the way I judge whether or not I should even work out is when I get in the sauna in the cold Punch If I feel tired and weak when I'm in there then I know something's going on it's not as simple as allergies so I thought for 10 years I had the Austin allergy for 10 years it was so bad I go out to dinner even we moved out to Fredericksburg we come into Austin I thought it was Austin Ser I like Austin has giving me this we go out to dinner start eating and then yeah my nose my eyes everything just and I have to always excuse myself always have to have tissues in my back pocket then I got my teeth done which we talked about I think the last time I was here and um Maverick my periodontist he did one of these 360 MRIs he says you know man you've got some lowlevel infection here and uh that could be responsible for a whole bunch of stuff now I'd had hearing aids for 5 years so when he did the initial extraction uh I think I took one or two shows off and then I went back in the studio put my headphones on I'm like whoa I thought I'd hit something you know a volume knob or something came back because hearing came back because this was infected and it was basically clogging up my sinuses and that was affecting the the the hearing yeah J how a mouth infection like that's very dangerous isn't it people have no idea how important oral health is it's really really critical and also I feel better because you know I'm not fighting infection continuously that's crazy so what how did it all start like what what was going on with your teeth that like made all these in I had I had a bad start in life when uh when I was two or three we were living in Uganda and my parents would put me to sleep with a chocolate cookie so I had kind of a bad start you know and I had a
lot of work I had um you know just tons of fillings on my baby teeth everything was messed up then I had the big outboard headgear which really traumatized me for Life taking that to school you know like I was one of those guys oh yeah it was bad and about um uh 10 years ago maybe a little bit more I went to the dentist here in uh in Austin and you know he's like you know we really got to start doing stuff we got to start looking at repairing and then this dentist started hitting on me and texting me and you know I'm like oh great guy or girl guy damn like no no no no so and I knew that there was a Pandora's Box in there how Wild is that like what a what a risky move it was so dumb like married straight guy and he's like yeah I think I can get him though we can get we can he can be on our team that is such a mad a man move that's such a thing that men would do so stupid like I'm here with some buddies of mine you know sending a picture I'm like no no no no so all shirtless [ __ ] wear cowboy yeeha I'm not going back and I'm good and then uh Tina and I you know we got together we moved out to Fredericksburg and she and she's real big on you know preventative anything you know her car has the oil everything on time everything's all set and her teeth of course are impeccable and she's like that sounds like a good fit for you totally you need an organized lady you have I had a credit score of 350 oh no I didn't have credit card I was just cash you know like I didn't care like you know I had cash flow everything's good I don't care uh she straightened out oh yeah oh big time you disorganized men very much need organized women you just can't have one that turns into your mom oh no no that was my first that was my first wife and that that does happen with some of them some of them when you give them the reins and they start telling you what to do all of a sudden then it becomes very non-sexy I will say props to my first wife she kept me that was the height of my show business Fame MTV she kept me out of trouble I I did not I did not particip she good mommy she was a good mom and she's a good mom to our daughter you know so yeah for sure well you know you change they change you need a different kind of a mom things things change things change
um yeah so then you know I I went through it yeah I was like um uh and that's also when I stopped smoking you know because uh Maverick called me up he said hey man I'm going to be operating on you in a week you know could you do me a favor and stop putting fire in your mouth and I've been smoking weed and tobacco since I was 15 and I quit at that moment I haven't never I mean I Vape like a like a crazy horse but well that's not good is it well that's a question this is you and I have gone over this and we will go back to it it's a nicotine uh uh delivery device yes that's what it is we'll get to that yeah so so just cleaning out the infections what was going on that that was [ __ ] up your hearing it was like the whole area was inflame it's right by your sinuses and so that you know everything's connected you know if you hold your nose you can hear you hear differently so whatever it was doing and literally just a couple days after he extracted the extracted more than that but after he extracted those teeth it just came back and I didn't have horrible hearing loss but it was enough where I was sick of saying I'm sorry darling what' you say I'm sorry and then the moment you get to like I didn't hear her I'll ask her later that's when I went no I got to get hearing age I don't want to I don't and it's one of the biggest reasons men um uh get depressed is when they they can't hear and they kind of withdraw and it's a it's yeah it's oh it's a real crisis yeah anyone you need to go if you think you just have your ears tested anyway why not I mean you get your eyes tested get your ears tested get your teeth taken care of so if they find out your ears are not good do they ever check for infections no because it seems like now you should get in the medical books he thank you we actually he's been writing a paper on this for this very reason and it's only because he did the 360 MRI that he saw and he also knew what to look for it's his expertise you know he's he's when I met this guy I was like he's he's young he's like in his 30s I'm like so why did you choose this profession he says I like operating I really love doing that stuff I'm like okay you sound cool and he turns out he's a pilot you know so we become friends um but yeah he he says people have no idea and so he has been
working on a paper to publish about this very thing it's just not known I talked about in the podcast and people from all over the world like really man man you know I've been having hearing issues get an MRI get a 360 MRI of your head this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter the hiring process is stressful there are so many different things to consider and on top of it all you need to get it done quickly it's like when you're trying to find a decent contractor for a home renovation project or even a new primary care doctor you don't want just anyone you probably want a person who knows their [ __ ] and will take your concerns seriously but also need to find them like yesterday if you're an employer struggling to find that perfect fit I've got one word for you zip recruiter they work fast to find you great talent try it for free at ziprecruiter.com Rogan they're so fast four out of five employers who post on zip recruiter find a quality candidate within the first day that might be why hiring site employers prefer zi recruiter the most based on G2 ratings they get the work done without wasting your time or money so relax and let zi recruiter speed up your hiring see for yourself just go to ziprecruiter.com Rogan to try it right now for free that's the same price as a genuine smile from a stranger a picture perfect sunset or a cute dog running up to you and licking your hand again that's zip recruiter.com Rogan zip recruiter the smartest way to hire you know it's a it's an interesting subject because candy and sugar is really what caused all this horrible tooth decay in people and the the goofy [ __ ] solution that someone came up with along the way was putting fluoride in the water MH which is so goddamned insane that you're taking a neurotoxin and you're putting it in the water but it and again like I'm I don't want to take even a political position on this I just want to look at this I want to look at this from a a human lens there is something that people do where even if something is obviously stupid if it's a part of a system and there's enough air quotes experts that have endorsed this regardless of the fact we've seen time and time again throughout history that experts are compromised experts are you could put in you could have a court case
for a murder and bring in experts that will tell you he definitely did it and experts would tell you he definitely didn't do it so we know this for a fact but still people argue on the side of the experts and I've seen this about fluoride and it it's so mindboggling there are conclusive studies that show a direct correlation between high levels of fluoride in the local water and lower IQs and it's a neurotoxin we know it's bad for you in large doses and yet there are [ __ ] people out there with college degrees who read the New York Times who think they're sensible people that will get angry if you want to remove this neurotoxin from water because look at all the strides it's done in preventing tooth decay and you just want to say hey man [ __ ] you this is stupid I went to dinner at Mitch's house I call him I'm a little upet no no it's okay because because we're sitting down it's my wife his wife you know he he has a one of those houses right on the airport with this plane rolls out of the garage and out of the hanger oh he's out of touch exactly I paid for that I'm like I paid for that hanger um and and we're sitting down and we're having a good time you know we're talking about stuff he says so what do you think about Flor I just said should not be in the water he's like you're wrong you don't know what and this is only a couple years ago and now he's come back and he said oh man this is I was this was apologize yeah of course this was drilled into my head like but what I understand is floride is a byproduct of aluminum production and a lot of this you know they had this fluoride waste product basically they needed to get rid of and from what I understand it was Alcoa I could be wrong but I think it was Alcoa who made these deals and who knows how they set that up with the American Dental Association and that's how fluoride got into our water and we got this kind of scop of it's good for you I knew it was wrong in uh 2000 in 2000 and there was a book that came out called Legacy of Ashes was written by a go a guy called Tim Wier it used to be New York Times and it was all about the CIA and it's a great book because my uncle is in it many times Donald Greg he's still with us he's 95 or 96 and he was really high up in the CIA he was you
know part of OSS back in the day and in it it talks about how the how the agents would go in fluoridate the enemy's camp water so they could go in at night and they could they were dle and they could pull him out and they could kind of attack him and I said Uncle Don is this true he says yeah pretty much how I remember it I'm like well of course this so the neurotoxin has been used in actual Warfare in the water to make people docile yeah docile and and the argument is so dumb because you know my friend Eddie Bravo had a great Point uh he said when you get toothpaste uh do you ever see toothpaste that says fluoride free why would they say that and advertise it Toms if fluoride wasn't bad for you why would they do that like why would that be a selling point if we've always looked for fluide and toothpaste my whole life Crest oh fluide got it you know when you're going through the CVS you're grabbing stuff and throwing your back yeah it's always fluoride you're always looking for fluoride that's what kills the [ __ ] germ I don't want cavities I don't have to go to the dentist give me that fluoride but they're selling toothpaste without fluoride why is that and the guy who was saying it to like had this look at us like he was like he was trapped just trapped like so you don't think fluoride is good for you it's like one of those things like that's just what he just said no just brush your [ __ ] teeth it's really that simple as a kid did you get those trays at the dentist do you remember those what are the trays it was a it would be they say we're going to do fluoride treatment on you oh yeah they did that and it was like it's it's a it's fruity you know and it's Gunk could be dripping back in your throat you're gagging with this horrible it's like that's not you get a D in English cuz you're [ __ ] stupid pretty much the Story of My Life Joe yeah it's it's so bad it's it's really bad for you and it's not necessary and we're being co-opted by something and someone and I think we looked this up on the podcast Jamie didn't it come out of there was some town in Texas I believe that had naturally fluoridated water which occasionally you know just we have it in
the Hill Country the water is definitely naturally fluoridated yeah there's natural levels of different minerals and there's different stuff that in this one area had a a fairly High natural level of fluoride and these people had like great oral hygiene whether or not that was a convenient study that they pointed to or convenient case they pointed to to make the argument to get rid of all that fluoride you know there like you got to look many layers into all this kind of stuff cuz they've been throwing fluoride in the water for how long and how much money has been spent throwing fluoride in the water and how many people have like built mansions and have [ __ ] you know Mercedes Benz they're tooling around them because they've been throwing fluoride in the water and that's that's a deep system to try to untangle after 50 60 years of doing this it's the petrochemical industry that's where all our medicin come from and I was watching the Grammys and I don't really why what's wrong with you I know well I usually watch for the Satan segment I was say oh there it is there's the Illuminati there's always one there's the they didn't have one they had beautiful women and nice dresses presid they're nervous oh no the presidents are important for the culture it's very important for the Satan but people they're in trouble they're in trouble Jesus is making a comeback man they're in trouble there hide now go back into the basement of comet P Pizza and place that doesn't have a basement by the way we're reliably informed um and I hadn't really watched network television a lot and there's a lot of commercial breaks but the first 10 all had a pharmaceutical product which had never heard of a name I can't remember and side effects literally included death I'm like what is going on with this and like ask your doctor I'm like do I have this should I have this do I want this is this going on with me and people are all happy in the commercials they're like look my skin looks good and I'm happy and I have a beautiful family it's almost like we used to you know sell cars now they're just selling the Pharmaceuticals well that will be an interesting thing if RFK Jr gets in place if RFK Jr gets in place and they
stop this advertising advertising on we are one of two countries on Earth that allows yeah New Zealand and New Zealand's far more restrictive than us we should be really restrictive about this because advertising works you know and there's advertising that doesn't bother me at all like Chevrolet Corvette boom one of those you know it's okay it's fine but when he can give you bloody diarrhea and suicidal ideology leakage yeah and you're just [ __ ] up in the head and you're depressed and like you don't know why but now your zits are gone like hey slow down that was not in that commercial with the the lady dancing in the field with her child and the people at the picnic and they're all smiling and laughing and having a good time together that looked like fun like what where's that part well of course you know this was they tried they've tried all kinds of things to stop this and you know first amendment comes up although we have stopped uh tobacco advertisements and there's all kinds of things have been done throughout the years um but what happened with television is all the money I mean really 60 70 maybe 80% of all the advertising income is from pharmaceutical companies that's why there's also no reporting like we're not going to bite the hand that feeds us we that's the real problem that's that's it that's the real problem the real problem is that these news organizations are not independ not just news not just news everything everything they're not independent like even television shows like could you imagine if let's say a network has a prominent news organization and that news organization is very popular and it's a big part of their ratings and it's a reliable source of information for you know people that believe them and they're sponsored by pharmaceutical drug companies but then they also have a crime show yeah on and this crime show wants to do a thing about an evil guy who promotes a vaccine that winds up killing a bunch of people and they hide the data and then they arrest him at the end of the the end of the show like no [ __ ] way that's not getting made no green light for you noton happen no no you got to turn that guy into a meth dealer that's a meth dealer now let's just do a couple rewrites simple rewrites of the script
yeah yeah exactly yeah this is a bad guy from um Guatemala let's come let's [ __ ] it's definitely not from here he's definitely not from madna and they definitely aren't working in conjunction with the government to develop this thing and the government's profiting off of it that's not real well we've I mean I say that we're in the season of reveal I've been saying this for about a year now be and it's really happening real quick with what we're uncovering and starting to I haven't seen your Ben dropped some [ __ ] seeds yesterday if we're we're in the season of flowers it's it's he's blooming today cuz he was so nervous yesterday Jamie was talking about it before like he was making all these tweets like they were going to kill him probably yeah it's probably been discussed well I I think it's way too far beyond and I think you know I look at um Leave it to Beaver I call her who who's the the new press secretary she's 27 years old oh yeah she's good though she's fantastic she younger than my than my daughter A A gal I don't think you should say Leave it to Beaver I'm sorry that's just just that's how I remember her last name all right Caroline leave it I think it's leave it thanks Joe thanks thank you so she because we're old enough to remember when Beaver was a vagina most kids are like I don't even know what the [ __ ] they're talking about Leave it to Beaver what are you talking about a dumb name for a vagina a beaver cuz dudes didn't really have any derogatory names for dicks it's just dick is the worst one like a your dick put your dick away you [ __ ] weirdo you know what I mean it was like but Beaver well we only had pecker yeah like but Pecker's kind of cute yeah exactly juster yeah there's no like real bad names for dick other than dick but she comes out and she does this whole list of US Aid which is very little money and and I think our president is very smart because he's showing us things that enables people like Mike Benz and you and I to have these conversations about you know cuz it's not ideological that us a ID which is not us Aid this is like one of these one of these scops right up top like your Federal Express is not owned by the government Federal Reserve is not owned by the government usaid is
the agency for International Development not Aid and we see on television there goes another pallet onto the C130 Aid us aid from the American people we're being nice yeah we're being we're being nice to people we should be nice we're the nice people of the world but um what these and I'm sure Mike talked about this you know like LG btq these these dance parties and things if you look at I'm look at these countries like these are countries where we want to keep them away from Russia overthrow the incumbent yes and the way to Garner support is to and I really love how they added the queue that just became so clear to me all of a sudden if you sponsor lgbtq these are outcasts these are people who feel that they've been marginalized then you add a queue like wait a minute I can be queer I'm different I'm odd you bring more people in then you can br the anarchist in you can get a they have the A's in czy everything but the A's don't even have a dog in the fight but that's the point you want them to come to the party come to the party you're allowed to the party and so long now and I saw this you know afd in Germany you know this is the the extreme right party and they wanted um you know to slow or remove immigration and um so now there was a protest uh against the afd you know some they're getting ready to vote now and there's a 100,000 people there and I'm like wow I do so I thought because I know people in Germany I have friends in Germany they really are sick and tired of this immigration stuff so where are these people coming from and in the news report right up front there's a dude in a blonde wig with ey Shadow saying we just want to get along we just want can't we just be diverse I'm like that's the scop he he's talking about himself so he wants to feel included which by the way in America you can do whatever you want call yourself whatever you want people really don't have an issue with that but they've just taken this and abused these people into their political agendas all over the world and of course it sparked something here in the states if you look the Democrat Party there they're going to die on this hill they're still like oh no lgbtq they're taking away our rights because they know they can mobilize people to do that and then you can throw in Palestine and all
kinds of people did see the city council thing in Worcester Massachusetts yesterday that's gone viral today which one is that J did you see it I'm seeing it right now on Twitter oh yeah yeah yeah pull this [ __ ] up okay there's a there's a compilation of these people like absolutely freaking out the best one's the compilation if you can find the compilation but it's all these lbgt people show up at this city council meeting to say there's like a trans genocide it's one of those dude we're going to round up in concentration camps yeah five minutes long yeah just give me start from the begin me give me can you wrap up please yes I can if you say that you're afraid of trump and that's why you don't want City to be the city to be a space safe space for Trans people you better prepare for Trans people to make this a very unsafe space Oh Brother I'm shaking right now I don't want to be here I'm sorry am I taking too long pleading for my life you remembered how many children I have and how many and that two of them are trans there it is yeah I speak as both the B and the T in the LGBT he's both I'm multiply disabled I have ERS danlo syndrome which is a connective tissue disorder that causes me immense physical pain I um I'm on the autism spectrum and I have narcolepsy and I couldn't drive myself here so I had to hide from my driver that I was in drag which is not an easy thing to do in drag I do not want to be here it's my day off I do not want to be in your DMs I do not want to be in your email inboxes I do not want my creativity writing dist tracks like Kendrick I don't want to spend an hour applying glitter on my face so that you will hear and see me I want you to listen to me let us remember that the no that's enough you made me put glitter on my face you piece of [ __ ] because everyone knows when you go to court you have to have glitter your face these people need hugs they need love I pray for them the biggest way to psychologically manipulate people is or there's three ways old people puppies and children and the whole and I follow this it started around 2012 not coincidental when you know about Smith month the smithm act so that's you know there was a law that was put in since the church commission you
can't propagandize the American people uh defense department and others went to the government said well you know like we're on the internet we might accidentally you know push some propaganda on people it started with bullying in schools I know cuz John dorak and I we followed it on No Agenda started with bullying then it was um we needed anti-bullying laws and we're literally going like what happened to sticks and stones will break my bones or punch the bully in his nose no no no then the teachers and then we got hate speech laws not actually laws but you know hate speech punishments and this kept building up until you guarantee parents through the American Medical Association the Pediatric Society all of these different um trade groups that if you don't transition your child that child will commit suicide right and that's just that is a horrible thing that they've done think about these parents who may or may not one day wake up and go what have I done what have I done well there was someone was talking about this the other day that this is the real problem is that so many parents have committed to doing this to their children and they they cannot face they the reality of what they've done and so they're going to dig their heels in forever and about gender affirming care and yeah but the thing is that's a small percentage of people in the general population thank God and thank God but they're they're over represented in the fact that they make it their whole life and so they they're they're very loud and very vocal and then they become a political beachball I talk about Beach I heard you talk about that with brid that's what it is toally the political beach balls at a concert they Chuck them up in the air so we always have something to fight about so we're not paying attention to like the US Aid stuff or a lot of the stuff that's like really important and this is uh just a a part of this intertangled web of scops that's been running our our culture I mean I would say our government but it's it's everything right culture so it's the government has established its hooks in us and put fear and law and rules and the more more law and the more rules the better cuz the more likely you're going to break a few of them and then you're
going to shut the [ __ ] up and they they've got these [ __ ] things everywhere and it's just allowing them to run this Mafia business and there's a bunch of people that are reasonable educated people that have Stockholm syndrome like they they don't want to admit that even their people their cherished Heroes like Obama was a part of this big part these all these people that you think of as progress of Democrats they were all a part of it and fortunately today we have the convenient access to YouTube instantaneously where you can watch Obama in 2003 say some very Maga things or you could watch Hillary Clinton go more Maga than Maga about deportations yes and that if you stay you have to pay a stiff fine mhm I mean the whole thing is it's cyclical right like this is why the left is now supporting war and censorship it's it's not real it's not that there's a good group of kind compassionate educated people and a bunch of [ __ ] buffoons who are racist who want to bring that back to Confederate flag that's not what's going on there's people that are nice kind people that also understand the value of hard work and reality and kindness and also sternness and rule of law and you can't just let violent criminals out in the street and hey maybe you should do some actual Rehabilitation with the [ __ ] billions of dollars you make in the prison industrial complex when there's no Rehabilitation like no real concerted efforts to completely change these people and studies M it's a mess it can be done it could be done and it probably could be done with psych psych with psychedelic drugs like probably can do some things with people especially nonviolent criminals that are trying to figure out like why have I been stealing from people my whole life like what the [ __ ] is wrong with me that I you unless they're a legitimate psychopath they have no empathy there's there's people that can be kind of woken up to why they're in this horrific pattern of continual abuse in their life and there's there's ways to do it and you Rick Perry has been really like Brave in this case because you know he's a former Republican governor of Texas and right and now he's advocating for iigame therapy
particularly for Veterans for guys who come over they've seen the most horrific [ __ ] their brain is in a shambles and they want to do something and they they they have no no help in these pills that just dull their mind and make them feel detached from reality and all these [ __ ] anti-depressants and things they give them and they they want to [ __ ] end their life and they can go and get therapy that it cures 80% of them with one dose and it's like 95% with two doses it's [ __ ] nuts man and we've been hiding this because because of the sweeping schedule One Drug Act of 1970 that was put in place directly by Nixon to go after his political opponents it was directly put in place to demonize the anti-war movement and demonize the Civil Rights party and the Black Panthers and anybody who was a problem with the government so they just said let's just make all these things that these people are taking on a regular basis completely illegal not only just schedule one like with no medical use whatsoever things that people have been using for thousands and thousands of years and it's all the same [ __ ] it's all scops it's all scops have you ever heard of the audience effect it is a psychological theory that our Behavior changes when we know we're being watched and here's the thing we are being watched when you use the internet data Brokers watch and record everything you do online even if you're using a private browser but you don't have to become a slave to the digital surveillance State you can free yourself with expressvpn with expressvpn 100% of your online activity is rerouted through secure encrypted servers that hide your IP address that means you can get to use the internet with real freedom and privacy it's incredibly fast it doesn't slow down your streaming or downloading and it lets you connect instantly to secure servers in 105 countries countes around the world expressvpn is easy to use it takes just one click and it works on all of your devices even smart TVs use it on up to eight devices at the same time and protect your whole family with just one subscription the best part podcast listers can get four extra months of expressvpn for free at expressvpn.com Rogan or by tapping the
banner that's expressvpn.com Rogan or tap the banner if you're watching on YouTube you can get four free months by scanning the QR code on screen or by clicking the link in the description well the number one thing that happened around that time of course during Kennedy is we realized that television was a big Force television and radio they got that handsome guy and they got he and if you listen to some of the debates like uh um you know it's would sound on the radio like Nixon did better I mean it's it's it's it's amazing how this worked between radio and television but then newspapers uh we know the intelligence agencies were all writing stories I mean you look at CNN you still see X xcia guy shows up a little story when I saw you sitting at the inauguration and I think I texted you I'm like dude I can't believe it I see you sitting there you texting me American flag emojis and stuff like and you you and uh and Trump I'm like oh look at him he's in a tuxedo and I thought so my in 1983 um I was still a teenager and um I grew up in Amsterdam socialist country the airwaves were controlled by the government it was horrible it almost like Russia your phone was a gray phone and that was your phone you couldn't get a different phone you could it was illegal to unplug it from the wall and I was doing Pirate Radio at a place called radio deciel in Amsterdam and we were playing you were Christian Slater in way in way oh yeah yeah what was that what was that movie called uh I don't maybe it was called P radio but it was crazy they were trying to arrest him remember well so we all got arrested several times and we were playing 12in imports from your Chicago Warehouse arrested several times oh they would always get they would always come and arrest find you we we literally had the station name on the door people would come around we'd be smoking weed we hanging out you know we weren't making any money we were basically paying to do it you know we had this huge antenna on the roof this ever come up when you got hired by MTV did they get nervous about that like did they have to do a background check this guy's got a record no and I'll remind me to tell you my us Aid story in a minute
um so no but this is 1983 and I and I felt it was so first I was a gawky awkward kid I got ticks you know I got the wrong hair every I got the wrong moped everything's wrong but on the radio people were like wow and I was doing it in English you can do that in Amsterdam people like wow it's so cool you got that black guy on your station I'm like I'm black oh cool so I was I was John Holden the 23-year-old black guy who drives a Harley but the point was it was liberating I could speak my mind and you everything felt so stifling now we go forward 1993 and I'm on MTV I'm the hair of Generation X I'm on Z100 in New York number one station and I'm also on the internet you know I'd set up mtv.com was very very SL we had dial up modems at the time and it was so restrictive you can't they let me do my own material but they had censorship called a line producer like oh now we got to burn that segment you said something bad about Richard Marx oh you said something that was off color about Madonna oh we can't do that the radio was the same it was you know like read the liner card you know and then always end with Z100 and there was a a guy at Sun Microsystems in San Francisco and he said Adam I see what you're doing with mtv.com on the web that's cool I'm going to send you a computer so he sends me this big sunspark workstation he said what year 93 so this is pre- Windows 95 so this is yeah it's pre yeah that's Windows what is it 3.8 Solaris OS it's it's Unix basically so it wasn't Windows back then right like what came before Windows 9 I had a Mac no I had an early Apple 2 3.1 that's what it was yeah yeah 3.1 and an Apple 2 I was more Apple guy at the time and and he and so I hooked it up to my 56k mode dial in he says watch this and he says I'm on the phone with him he says watch this and up on my screen pops a little player and it's and he streaming in PC we have MP3s back then PCM pulse code modulation 9in Nails I'm like this is broadcasting I'm going to figure out how we use this thing for broadcasting because think about how we can use this outside of all the systems and so 2003 now we're 10 years later um I've been very involved with RSS feeds and blogs and I see my first iPod and it's like Snap Crackle Pop hold on a second this
is amazing we can combine this is a radio this is and this is not not a music device it's radio so I Cobble together this program that basically takes this RSS feed and then puts a program on you know as a so the show was an album and then each track was an episode number and then I immediately start doing a show I start you know what I do is just try get people involved that's how daily source code started because I was trying to get software developers in and then two years later three years later Steve Jobs is having a private conversation with me uh about putting this into into the iPod and making it official making a podcasting thing and iTunes and I'm like this is so perfect because now you have this RSS feed which you control no one else can control what you do with your RSS feed and you can anybody can slurp that up and subscribe to your radio show and then 20 years later I see the the president of the United States wrapping up his campaign with Joe Rogan on a podcast completely being himself being a dude for by the way props for you sticking to your guns I love that you did that now it's got to be here no restrictions on time well he didn't impose any he was more than willing to do it exactly how I do it he understands it but at that moment then I see you sitting there I'm like we just broke the elite messaging machine phase one complete all because of you dog no no you dog you dog man glory to God I I I think I was just I always give you your props you were the first I was just a vessel it's it makes sense to me now well I'm just a vessel too I think that's the case with all of it absolutely I say that to the guys at my comedy club you know like they're always like so thankful that I built this comedy club I'm like I think this thing built itself I think it was just I was a thing that it did through me it caught me me because it knew that you know I was capable of doing it and and impulsive enough and and Brash enough to like say [ __ ] it let's just dump a bunch of money in this spot and see what happens you were given gifts and and you stuck with your gifts and and I know you're a very generous guy I know you help a lot of people with all not monetary necessarily but just helping them getting them on their feet you know
like even you know Parker I'm like can I bring this kid he's a big fan you're like absolutely bring him in you're a gracious guy and so when you get whatever word it is to build a comedy club you did I think you have to do that I think that's the the universe is testing you and if you if you pay attention to yourself you'll feel like what's the right thing to do like what's the thing what is the greedy impulsive thing to do what is like the miserly thing do save it all it's my money save it all you know that's the the you know that usually do usually doesn't end well for those people it's just it's bad for you too because it's I always talk about this in terms of careers like and and I really try to put this in young Comics Minds there's an Impulse that you will have when someone's doing better than you and you'll you will be angry at them it is a bitter pathetic jealous normal Instinct that people have the enemy The Enemy talking to you it's just you have to recognize what that is what that is is you have a desire to be doing the same thing this person is doing this thing they are in the movie they are on the TV show they are headlining at the club and you feel bad CU it's not you so you decide that they are bad and so you start looking at them as a source of negativity towards you and you don't do all the logical objective reasoning that allows you to go oh no no no no they didn't do anything wrong it's just me and then those people who get really super big and famous often times get very defensive and very elitist because they do understand that people are mad at them now so then they're like [ __ ] those people those people are [ __ ] losers and it's bad for everybody it's bad for everybody the correct way to do it is to go wow look at what this person has accomplished that's [ __ ] amazing that's inspiring I want to do something like that with my life which is what America used to be people would come to I think it is I think it is it it's been covered up it's been papered over by media basically that's why I'm so happy that we've broken through that Elite messaging system um in the way I was raised is in America you can look at the guy with the Rolls-Royce or the Cadillac or whatever and go I want that and you can be that and we've we've kind of devolved into a you know it's
International now into a a victim mentality um there's good and evil I mean well it's just a ploy it's again the same thing as florid in the water it's a [ __ ] scop it's a ploy and it's a way to keep us instead of empowering people to recognize that all these people that are successful are inspiration that's what they are they're fuel for you you can use them ever whatever that person is singing at the Grammys when Kendrick Lamar is doing the halftime show when someone wins a fight that's supposed to be inspiration that's a fuel and you can use it correctly you could or you can [ __ ] your whole life up by paying attention to other people and comparing yourself in a negative way this is part of the problem with kids and social media oh because kids are supposed to see like oh look at Bobby he's nice to everybody and everybody likes Bobby be like Bobby like look at Mark he's [ __ ] awesome at the guitar and everybody wants to go see him play I want someone to come see me do something I got to I wish I was a good at something as Mark is at guitar and that's what's supposed to like raise us all up but instead we see a thousand followers and likes on someone blasting somebody in a funny way in a in a video this is a big part of the problem but sometimes funny way blasting is important too cuz that's my line of work like you got to talk [ __ ] talk [ __ ] you're a professional Joe you're a professional how do you become a professional you start off as an amateur you start off talking we can't we can't all be a comedian or a comic we just can't I think a lot more can than you think I think a lot more there's a lot of people out there that have the inclination that just don't don't get that spark which is also one of the things we're trying to do with the club which is also why we have two nights of Open Mic nights oh that's cool yeah we we want to make it accessible we want to make this is like a place where there's a real path you can work on your act and you're going to see guys like on a daily basis guys like Ron White and Shane Gillis and you know they're people coming in and out of town that're doing my podcast they're like the best of the best in the world and they're coming to the club oh this is the the center of the universe now for
comedy it's amazing what's place it's amazing and again I think this place I think it built itself I think I just had to do it I was like I just got to tell you none of God loves you Joe he is at work in you he's all over you and has been that way for a long long long time there's no doubt in my mind well whatever it is I'm listen You'll accept it I accept it and I listen and I go with it but I think it all like too many things had to happen like if you want to believe in fate if you really want to believe in fate I should believe in fate because especially with like this move here too many things had to happen in line it had to be the pandemic and it had to be me with young kids who just was very uncomfortable with the direction that La was going and then it had to be the George Floyd riots and the lock downs and then I had to come to Texas and go oh oh there's other ways that people live and I known you for a long time and you lived here and you spoke very highly and then my good friend Gary Gary Clark Jr he came here uh like before the pandemic and I remember talking to him on the phone I'm like why did you move back to Texas he's like man I just cannot [ __ ] with those people in LA and Gary's like the realest dude I know it's like one of the realest like he doesn't give a [ __ ] about Fame about that guy cares about playing that [ __ ] guitar and playing songs as good as he can and that guy just locks himself up in a studio he's got a studio on his house at his house locks himself up in there for 12 hours a day and it's just that guy only gives a [ __ ] about the art like he's about the craft and like so all the [ __ ] that came along with living in Hollywood like he would just come hang out at The Comedy Store all the time that was just because it was like oh you guys are real like I can hang with you we just be cracking up and hanging so when he came out here I was like [ __ ] and then Ron White came out here I'm like God damn it and then you it's oh I [ __ ] love it it's [ __ ] airports a breeze no traffic everyone's nice it's the middle of the country I like [ __ ] and then the pandemic happened and it just it was like it all pulled me to the spot and then it had to be the Spotify thing and then it had to be The Comedy Store shutting down for a year and then it had to be all the comedy
store employees that I loved were all unemployed and so then it was like okay let's [ __ ] do this exactly what I'm seeing seeing that with that's why I started in 1983 I'm like I see where the path was I've always been do been always been doing this stuff and that's the thing much sense podcasting to me too it's it was oddly compelling like it didn't make any sense I was making no money and I was busy it was costing you money probably on bandwidth and stuff it was definitely costing some money and I had young kids and it was just like why am I why am I spending my time doing this when I should be spending my time maybe doing something to make more money because especially back then it's like I wasn't doing Fear Factor anymore so I wasn't really making the kind of money that I was making when I was on television so I had to tour a lot so I was doing standup and I was doing like way too many dates with the UFC the UFC although I love it to death it's I mean that's the only job job I still have I still work for somebody but it's because I've been there for so long but it was like 22 dates a year they send you a W9 um I don't know I think I'm an independent contractor what's W9 how's that work I have accountants I was just messing with you I'm like Joe Walsh have account and pay for it all that's right I got a Maserati that 2 I lost my license Drive limo ride in the back lock all the doors in case I'm attacked yeah great song life's been good to me so far so far that's right it's great song I use that song all the time everybody's so different I haven't changed you know he's a ham radio guy Joe W he takes his rig out on the he doesn't go on the road that much anymore when he's out on the road he has this huge ham radio rig and that's like I'm I've been a ham for a long time and that's like the if you have a a we call it a qsl uh qso that's a that's ham code for a conversation okay with Joe Walsh oh man there he is look at that Joe Walsh is the [ __ ] man dude Life in the Fast length that dude changed the Eagles the Eagles on the way to killing your testosterone and making women cry all day and then all of a sudden Joe W comes along and now you got Life in the Fast Lane give me give me that riff give me the beginning of Life it was wild rock and roll guitar
attached to this beautiful voice and lyrics and songs and songwriting give me give me this Jimmie give it to me see how accurate it was but it was there was a there's a you know guitar like I was talking about Gary like here oh here close all right that's all we can do we get in trouble get in trouble get in trouble is that already going to get us in trouble probably probably screwed because here we have all these pod you know there's 4 and a half million podcasts really only 400,000 update regularly so it's not even that much that's Global um they've we oh how dare you we you're teasing me we can't play music in podcasts because of all these different uh entities that own it and so you know if it's if you perform something on the radio or in a live stream that's a performance right which you you know the club plays for that too if you're playing in music that's ascat BMI then you have the um the publishing right now because you download a podcast well all of a sudden now you've made a copy of it so that's another group over here so you have the Publishers then the record companies you have all the and they they just could never agree and they've locked themselves in so tight that the biggest opportunity for music would be to play it on podcasts they just had they've they've themselves into a corner and it's so and we all know now that most artists you know you get 10,000 streams on Spotify and you get a you know a penny after after a couple of years you see what Snoop Dog when he he was going over this oh it's I'm sure it's it's horrendous he got a thousand bucks billions of streams and he got a check for 45 Grand and Taylor Swift gets all the rest of the money I mean it's it's very isn't that because Taylor Swift owns her music isn't that the whole deal like if you own your music the and you know this I don't want to get too deep into Spotify and all that but people are starting to move away from that and what I call the value for Value model where uh we actually built this with podcasting 2.0 where you can say you can send a boost like I want to send some money to this person straight from the app so you can play it you can play a song in the podcast as long as they've agreed to the to the license
they own all their stuff you can send the money uh we just did Suzanne Santa we had a uh I invited you to that uh yeah I couldn't make it unfortunately all I had to say is I invited Joe that was all I needed to say um and you know we had six people on stage six different bands and they all made between $6 and $800 coming just from from out there not there was maybe 50 at the end of the night maybe 50 people left it's a Monday night but they were all making more money than they had ever made on any other platform in their life just because people can send it through the internet through we actually isn't that crazy that $600 for a performance that goes on the Internet is the most they've ever made from the internet absolutely isn't that crazy like you think about how many times they stream like I found out about Suzanne from um online some dude named balls of steel sent me a message and he said this is your new favorite song and I was like what and it was Honey Honey Angel of Death they did an acoustic version on the top of a roof in Downtown LA and it was incredible and I was like oh my God and then I became friends with them and yeah she and Nick are great and their baby is super cute SE adorable adorable so cool to see her mom I love it but it's all it's like that there's been so many streams on the radio and the fact that you never made more than 600 bucks is crazy like something's broken well that's because the the Publishers are getting all of that and exactly because you know it's and then but then on the other hand you get you know you can get really famous like people like Tyle the Creator and all these different people that have blown up just from being on the internet and then they do live performances yeah but it I still feel that the someone's making money well we know the Publishers are making money people say the record companies but it's the Publishers they they can't call them record companies anymore if they don't make records thank you more records I was in my garage the other day and I put my wall of fame in the garage like time to move this out of the house like I'm old enough now and I'm looking at like there's a a a platinum record uh with a cassette with a platinum cassette on it like do people even remember these days when you got a platinum record with a cassette on it
for 5 million copies sold of a cassette tape jelly roll gave us one of his platinum records we got it out there in the that guy that guy is awesome jelly roll is what what a story he's such a sweetheart he's such a nice guy he's a big crossover artist you know the Christians love him the country guys love him the rock and rollers love him it's like he's the perfect perfect uh crossover artist if I were an evil record executive he's the perfect he's a perfect crossover Artist Joe we need to sign him that's what also like most unlikely looking to be the sweetest guy ever with [ __ ] all the face tattoos and everything just goes to show yeah can't tell a book by its cover no you cannot ever ever ever so um anyway back to that it's just it's a shame that we've you know the the the music industry has moved it into this protectionist Place MH um and it's I mean even if you have a a spin studio you know the the Gestapo comes around like you know youve got more you got more than 75 people a day here you need to pay us more and you know they're very litigious the whole thing is just a mess you know it's a mess yeah I mean law is great cuz it protects you from scumbags but law is not but who it protecting now because the artists are making no money exactly although it's become easier to you know to do your music at home that's I mean I remember going to the Hit Factory in in New York and hanging out you know watching people record records that was amazing with you know the big machines and lots of people running around that was cool I think YouTube and social media presents very unique opportunities where a guy like Oliver Anthony can all of a sudden explode out of nowhere with one song He's another sweetheart yeah you had him on I saw he was at the club the other night too we all hanging out where does he live um I think he still maybe he doesn't want people to know him okay well he lives in I don't want to say around but he he was I mean back was he he was he was in Virginia West Virginia okay yeah West Virginia that makes sense rich Richmond north of Richmond was song right right right umg yeah that's where he was I don't know if he's and and God bless him because he stay he stayed away from the system yeah we had a phone call yeah I I
called him up when when it would all start popping off for him I'm going to sign you boy I'm going to sign you to my Rogen records you're going to make millions here take this Cadillac it'll be great yeah I sent the Cadillac right to his house um that's the last thing you want to give that guy you want to give him like a 1983 Chevy that's redone you know a pickup truck like an F-150 from the 80s it's like redone the boxy ones that's track in the dash good to go yeah no he's a genuine guy he's a really nice guy and uh we had this convers over the phone he said people are offering me millions of dollars do this and that and this I go stay independent and he goes they keep saying I got to strike while the Iron's hot I go no no no no no listen to me you you've already made it all you have to do now is just keep doing what you just did and you can do that right I'm sure you have other song go oh I got a bunch of other songs then he sent me some of his other songs which are just as good if not better and I was like dude you have talent talent is what you that's what everybody needs all this other stuff is people just trying to take advantage of your talent stay independent what I mean about you Joe you are you're a good guy but I I I I was already past that spot where he's at like I'd been in that spot before where people are offering you deals and stuff like that I know what the the trappings of that is you're broke and then all a sudden you have money and like for me it worked out great that that happened to me in 1993 I got this big development deal with Disney and I moved out to California to do a sitcom but it was like M but it was I wanted to be a comic and then all a sudden I've got all this money from TV I'm like this is so weird was that news radio no that was Hardball it was a a baseball show that was on Fox that never made it I was on MTV man I wasn't paying attention to any of that stuff or actually it actually started at MTV because I got a development deal with MTV first really yeah but the development deal on MTV was like 500 bucks to do a pilot I'm not kidding and then if sounds like MTV I'm not kidding it was like 500 bucks something maybe 5,000 I don't think it was though I think it was $500 and if I did the pilot and the was successful they would have
me locked in for some exorbitant amount of time I think it was like 5 years where I couldn't do anything other than MTV and it was because they had a few people that became really famous off MTV and then left and so they had decided that MTV is uh going to keep all of their talent you know like the funniest thing because when I got there in 87 VJs Were Expendable they're like you know you're Expendable shut up you know we can we can ex now they couldn't because they brought me over from Europe and I had a 2-year contract I think the first year was 150 Grand the second year was 175 Grand and I got a car service and uh and I could do radio any any radio I wanted to do and so and they dis they a lot of the PE not they but a lot of the people at the office really disliked me because they'd be like cut your hair I'm like no I'm not going to cut my hair why they want you to cut your hair new creative direction for the for the channel no and you know I had different lengths of hair throughout the years 80s man that that hair was have you seen the artists were playing Let me give me a photo of Adam curry in 88 it's glorious glorious I the hair of Generation X don't call me a boomer look at that come on who the [ __ ] would tell you to cut that ferof faucet that's a beautiful head of hair that's an amazing good times brother Good Times imagine someone telling you that that probably that was like a huge hook too like probably a lot of well you know what MV Griffin always said M Griffin always said people with big heads are successful on television that's why he had Pat s Jack and of course Jay Leno big heads right I don't have a big head big hair I had big hair so I had a big head exactly the formula worked fny right there's no like little tiny headed dudes that are like wow no what is that about no that works on YouTube now but on television does it work on YouTube he's got a tiny head of anybody can be successful on YouTube I mean it's all kinds of isn't that show you that the formula is [ __ ] then you know like you got a guy like Mr Beast who is not like a classically good-look guy who's got the biggest show in the world that guy has I mean so I don't people say he's a Creator I think he a creation he he is a creation of YouTube and how it works you don't have
this uh because you're you know you're so established but they his team and he's talked about this micro manage every second of each video every cut every the poster images all these things and it's all about time spent viewing if one video does a minute 38 and the other one does 140 that other video is more successful I mean it's really in order to to like hook the elos get everything rolling you have to bring that down to a science and of course and this is not for you and I I don't think is you have to always keep feeding the machine you got to keep feeding it feeding it feeding it you have to make your life a part of your YouTube channel otherwise you know you drop off very quickly yeah well um I just think he has a different approach I mean his approach is very like scientific he's very very intelligent about it and I I'm a feel person which is why I when I get people as guests I never think like PE sometimes people think oh you try to get like the biggest name guests because that'll be the most popular videos I don't I don't do that at all I only who do I want to talk to that's exactly how I've always done it so that's I'm going to always do it do I want and if it happens to be Mel Gibson you know and great interview by the way he was I mean I'm like that's for me he's always Mad Max when I was a kid you know we we'd play hookie from school we go back we'd and somewhat have a VHS no betamax you had a betax and like we're watching Mad Max and then Diana Ross in the round I mean that Diana Ross in the round we love in the Ross she like oh she's so awesome but the Mad Max man that original and he's standing there with his boots in the desert and at the beginning it was [ __ ] movie he had a bunch of bangers but he's just he's an interesting guy you know and that blower on top of the the engine I mean the whole thing was just we just loved that that was a fun movie and then later Lethal Weapon and then and I didn't realize cuz I'd seen the passion uh which is you know as a as a Jesus freak myself like that was like whoa that was was a heavy movie to watch and when he said I didn't realize that I the whole thing was an Aramaic and it was the subtitles that you were basically reading the subtitles and his theory that it you know it it penetrates you
differently the story I think is so spoton I think so too I mean really really interesting well he's a very underrated filmmaker and I always point to Apocalypto as another example of that there's no English in that movie and it's a masterful movie it's a great movie that guy has a calling man he's he's doing a and talent he's got just and he fought the system he really really fought the system so that was what was fascinating about talking to him about what happened when he made The Passion of the Christ because it was really it wasn't that it was an anti- Jesus uh reaction to that film it was an anti- Jesus reaction to that film that was really made by the motion picture industry because he had gone outside the normal distribution system yep so in creating that movie he financed it himself he went outside that he got a smaller distributor and it did really well and they were like $800 million or something ex like we got to make sure this doesn't [ __ ] happen again and that's where the attacks came and that's also where Jim cavel his career completely stalled out you would think the guys in a gigantic Blockbuster movie like that like he's going to be in Blockbuster movie after Blockbuster movie after this no they kind of blackballed him yes well and so you have smaller Studios now like um Angel Studios and they're in Utah and they did uh they crowdfunded uh this U The Chosen which is you know this story of Jesus and it's I mean unbeliev they're in their fifth season now completely outside the studio system completely away from it and it's all crowdfunding at the end of the season the credits are like 15 minutes everybody who donated and everybody who donated you know x amount they get to be extras on the set I mean it's a whole new way of looking at producing stuff interesting then of course they went on to do the an apocalyptic movie called Homestead which is a dog it's so horrible it's like oh what is this I mean it's oh is it a bad movie oh bad acting is it bad enough to watch it no no tin and I were watching we're like do we bail no 10 more minutes do we bail no no it's gonna happen do we it's like no no it it's too bad I mean just like what it's hard to make a good movie of course it is well imagine the amount of people
that you have if you have a bunch of idiots telling you to your hair imagine how many dumb asses you have in the background of the movie that are telling you what to do all the money people all the executives like it's so it must be so hard you have to be like a Quinton Tarantino who's like they just leave him alone leave him alone let him do his magic he's an interesting have you met him qu oh yeah he's been on a couple times interesting fell we hung out with him the other night we went out to dinner with him him and Roger Avery who's also awesome and uh then we went to the club and we hung out at the club he's an interesting guy and that's what he like want he like requested to come to was he wearing his tracksuit no he was just normal oh I saw him in La when I was there for about a year I was like you see him like tracksuit track trackit are comfortable tracksuit I get it why the mob guys wear tracks all of course the r mob guys they know this the way do it Adidas man Adidas that's my uniform I think the move is like stretchy jeans cuz stretchy jeans give you all the feel of a tracksuit but you don't look like a weirdo I've become a hoodie guy you know much much to my my wife Chagrin she's like you know I got friends of mine saying hey fetman I'm like really fman wore a hoodie to the [ __ ] inauguration that was a little wild I mean the hoodie was one thing but the shorts I'm like well you know that's Federman I guess that's really who he is I mean it's kind of weird in that like come on everybody else is wearing a suit but it's also kind of like well that's how he dresses 24 hours a day like yeah but you wore a tux dude you wore a button down for the president being in your studio I was impressed by that well I feel I feel like I had to the vice president too yeah like I got to wear something nice it's because you know a little it shows a little bit of respect yeah I didn't even clean the table off though well you know my friend Harley Williams was very happy that Dimitri was on the table oh you snake yeah he he gave me a giant hug he goes Dimitri was on the table you were interviewing the president yes this is a a gag that Harlen did he said he had a tapeworm and then three hours into the podcast he pulls out this [ __ ] snake out of his pants you got to see Haren he's [ __ ]
he's so funny and so unusual and so eccentric that like for him like that was it was such a huge thing to see the snake on the table that he pulled out course I get it I get it I mean it was so interesting where um you know and you've talked about the the Harris campaign and all the stuff that they were saying and you it was like well we talked to his people I'm like his people I think it's Jamie and then maybe one other guy well I do have managers and they did talk to the managers they did talk to them but what they said just wasn't true but I mean it's not like you have a super big team here know it's even the team outside of here is not that big but it's um just it's just normal political [ __ ] they just lie they cover their ass and they lie I would have been very happy to have her on and like I said the goal was to release both of them the same day I trying to figure idea it would have been great that would have been fantastic yeah I was trying to figure out if that would be possible to do you know and that's what I wanted to do I wanted to put them out both at the same time but that's it that's where we broke the me the elite messaging system we broke it because they could not put her into the new system they couldn't because they knew that she would fall down well they just got scared they could have they could have put her in I would have held her hand I would have we would have had a conversation not that I need to hold VI president hand but what I meant was no I would have done that I wasn't going to vote for I don't know Joe she might have Charmed you but I was more than willing to strongman or Steelman all of our positions to try to like I wanted to I wanted to know what would be the good in this and why you know let them even if it doesn't make any sense express it the best way possible that you can I will help you do that and then I'll will ask you questions but I'm not going to be antagonistic I'm not going to be a [ __ ] I'm not going to be I have no desire to turn this into a viral clip thing I'm not trying to do that I don't think you've ever done that with anybody no I don't want it I I never wanted that done to me so why would I do that to some that's why I wore this hoodie iron sharpens iron that's that's what you are
brother you know you get bring people in iron sharpens iron so a friend sharpens a friend you're always you know I come here I come here cuz I want to learn from Joe I want my iron to be sharpened by Joe you do that with everybody who's there well I just want whoever's in that seat to do the best they can right so like what whatever it is whe whether you're talking about quantum physics or whether you're talking about human psychology or ancient history I want the best version of you and I want to like kind of help you get the best version out and if you're running for president I'd like to get the best version of that from you and I think that the the whole system of of debates and public speeches and interviews is so bad for getting to know a human being yeah and and I guarantee you like I've seen interviews where she's really funny I've seen this one I talked about it before but I'll say it again there's this one interview she's talking about meeting her mother-in-law for the first time and her mother-in-law grab like oh you're so beautiful it's very fun andu way not defensive laughter where it seems like it's orchestrated it was a a genuine laughter and it was fun well she's a prosecutor that's why she kept going into prosecutorial mode the same with the so-called debate with Trump she was Prosecuting him so she has a switch that she just and becomes anth and then she whereas our president you know he's kind of him all the time they're eating the dogs I think that won him the election too that was awesome I mean that's one of my favorite Jingles of all time they're eating the dogs EA the cat you kidding me this is that that that just like that that's fantastic well it is uh it's very interesting to watch um it all take place it's it's very interesting to uh watch this uh shifting of the consciousness of the country the culture yeah and but also to see the reaction on the left like to see the really crazy people like those people at that Worcester Town Hall thing like that it's interesting to see that too because you're going to see these like really exaggerated grasps at retaining relevancy like really exagger well they're crying out for help is what they're doing they're they're crying out for help they've been scoped I mean I I
I'm only on X I've I gave up Facebook and Instagram I'm not interested and X I really only use as kind of an inbox you know people will you know send me stuff and things for the show show uh but early on when um uh blue cry was still a um a secret project within Twitter that Jack dorsy was running I knew some people who were in that secret project and so I have an account and I went on there the other day I'm like oh my Lord this is horrible these people are spinning up and spinning out and just going nuts with each other it's yeah and I was like I I don't know how we we we have to figure out out away and you know president Trump says success will bring us to together I think that's probably true but you know we can't just um I'm a little worried that we're all going to be stomping on them you know it's like ah look at these stupid Libs look you know they're idiots they're crazy and I I just feel that you know you got to you got to love them and not hate them you don't have to forget what they've done or what they've said but they have been abused by multiple entities and systems within our own government and political organizations yeah also they're in this feedback loop this Echo chamber and they they don't have outside people that are kind and you know everybody outside is the enemy and they're they're trying to like they're trying to make their way through life like all of us but without forgiveness you don't you have nothing like you have to be able to forgive people yes you have to without that there's nothing like well you you remain Trapped In Your Own Prison yeah and you're also you have enemies forever that could have been your friends there's no reason for it it's not good for you it's not good for them and it's just like this stubborn inclination that a lot of people have to stick with that like [ __ ] those people Forever For Life you really shouldn't do that it's not good well especially if those people feel bad if they apologize and they realize they've made mistakes yeah like that's what life's about you you got to be able to understand that in the past you've made mistakes and grow and if we the people that have made mistakes and grown do not accept the people that are currently making mistakes and growing well then we're Hypocrites well that's the same with uh Co you know I know many
people who either lost their job or were forced to take something they didn't want to take and they they will never forgive them like I won't forget you now forgiving is not the same as forgetting obviously but they they can't bring themselves to forgive those who were caught up in a massive psychological operation and they are they're held in their own prison of anger and it's with their own family members I mean that it's almost like did that happen that just went we're now back what are we doing all these things have gone so fast we you know we had an attempt on uh on a on a president's life and it's like we don't know anything and all the what what what just I mean we're like our heads are on a swivel spinning around like what is going on and I think and the drones you know the Dr about the drones so the Drone thing for me it was so OD first of all there's a base over there and they they're testing some some drone technology but people in the United States but really around the world this is how we go through life we go through life looking down I'm a pilot I fly helicopters airplanes I'm looking up at the sky all the time there's a lot going on there's a lot happening in the sky and then the minute what have you seen all kinds of things Joe I've seen the Starling s lights go over my house that's trip people out it's amazing it's like whoa and you know like eight or n in a row like go fast very fast and they seem pretty low actually only like 60 Mi up like um but and of course you know once it becomes a story then every I know all these people with drones are like dude I'm going to get in the news I'm fly my drone they got six foot diameter drones flying around of course I mean aliens and Chinese drones they always want to have their red and green anti-collision lights on it's important it's like I was like no no and of course there was some you know some actual um legislation that they wanted to pass which happened that same week which was to get a Chinese drones out of America um the DJI drones they don't want them um they want to give they passed that the same week that this going on dude same week same week that's that's why they scoped all of these uh local people and they're yes oh yeah it was it was the it was the these [ __ ] yeah
they wanted the DJ DJI drones no longer to come in and you know but really for for law enforcement to also have local authority over drones which they didn't have and now they have they're going to have that as well so they can say hey you with the Drone down we're doing something important here right so it's always to remove your freedom trust me whenever they're sign yeah that was the same time and all I had to I looked at this like okay I'm train myself like well let's go take a look what's going on oh that's interesting isn't it look at this legislation argument for deregulation too because when it comes to Innovation the issue with drones is that if you want like a really high level sophisticated drone in America you have to have a pilot's license yeah you do yeah this is this is a that's a big deal and the FAA is very involved in the policing of well you need that I mean you need that for our skies obviously 100% China don't have that bro they just they got a social credit C system and you freedom I talked to a lot of guys who do our audience you just got people in every you know we've trained them you're producers you know something about one particular topic you you have an obligation to let us know so we have all these guys Dron for hobbies drones for law enforcement drones for news and they all said you know these DJI drones they're so much better than the US drones they're just better they got better stuff better technology better cameras so they you know they're like I don't want to lose this and you know I guess thing is without the free market the innovation's going to be stifled if the Innovation is only available to the highest level military contractors that's crazy like especially when it comes to drone technology like you're competing with China and they're doing these enormous light shows with a [ __ ] dragon flying through the sky have you seen some of those things I still seen them fall out and hit people got to crack a few eggs if you want to make an omelet out I'm glad don't go to drone shows for this very reason Joe I'm careful I'm careful that's probably like like those air shows they fly Jets around like I'm not going to be on the ground I don't go to those that's why I like um starlink
because starlink is really first and foremost a military system and and very smartly I think Elon is very good at at marketing it's like let's give this to the people you know so that's everyone I mean I have it as a backup at home I have fiber but I have a starlink of course I I want to have this but it's really a military system dude I took one with me to the mountains in Utah when I went hunting work perfect size of this path yeah the the to go the little little to go incredible you can make phone calls you can do FaceTime all from the mountains the middle of nowhere I know I know it's it's we used to dream I think I had datab belt.com at one point I dreamt about you know wouldn't it be great if we all these satellites and they're circling around and we call it the data belt and we'd have all this stuff and you know all these things I can just see uh the Delight of U and of course a lot of it's you know SpaceX these are very sophisticated NASA people you know all kind the best of the best is in there I think he knows how to hire the right people um and but he's smart at how he markets that he really is I mean well the newest thing is they've teamed up with T-Mobile so they saw that yeah yeah so you have Starling comp compatible phones only Joe right so you've gone to a flip phone now I've gone to flip yeah so are you texting me on that thing no I Tech uh we do it on Signal so I do that for my computer oh boy you're a weirdo so now you've gone completely flip phone so you don't text anybody anymore no I can text I can text message but we've but it's like T9 no no there's actually so um I still have my graphine OS which is the degoogle stuff no you can't put that on here so this is Android but all I really have on here is text messaging RCS yeah so I'm still a green bubble this is a big flip $63 and it's from Caterpillar baby wow so this is like for job s sites I bet your battery last a year how long is the battery literally two days if I don't charge it keeps going oh yeah it's no problem and so this is Android and you have a touchstone screen a touchcreen yeah yeah if you if you text it pops up now might be the the whole thing is it's hard to use and that's why I like it because I don't want it's a trap well reading your text
messages is a trip what am I saying no they're they're so small this is crazy how do you get back uh use the the back button on the keyboard oh my God that's hilarious so I this is hilarious in a pinch I can bring up a web page in a pinch I can bring up my email right but it makes it complicated yeah so I'm I'm I'm hindering myself so that I'm not enslaved to it and actually um I hear from uh from our daughters you know that there's a lot of kids who are doing this now they they because they want to be more present you want to send a text message like if you want to get into your messages what do you use using to send a text message oh here I'll show you are you doing like T9 no no no no so you're typing you have a little tiny keyboard that comes look emojis look emojis for my wife see you just hit that and then up Pops the keyboard but you can also swipe so you can just swipe swipe around God this keyboard's hilarious you can also you can also do I'm try to write hello hello my wife will be like what's going on yeah it's probably autoc completing this is terrible yeah you got it I have it in swipe mode yeah so just swipe along the letters I know how to do that yeah l n high sense no didn't work I have fat ass fingers too man this is not going to work it's it's not easy and uh but I you know it's like I just need to I like talking to people now too like it's it's a great phone for talking to people yeah talking to people's better and you know what's cool do you have navigation on this thing no well I could put it on there but then the Govern it won't work but you know you talk to someone like ah yes satisfying yeah that is satisfying has it look has little alerts if I get a text message so I can see so if somebody tells you hey the meeting got moved to 10 p.m. I don't have meetings Joe well got whatever our dinner reservations got changed you'll get it yeah you know it's Dvorak my my partner on No Agenda he uh he literally has a phone in his drawer and he never takes it out he has decided no I don't use navigation he lives in San Francisco he wants to you know wants to keep his mind sharp by driving around he says whenever I need a phone I just turn around to someone and say Hey man can I use your phone for a second there's always someone with a phone he
says so if I really needed to look something up I just ask him for it and it's and good to go it you you know you get the feeling that you need this thing but you really don't well you definitely don't if you have a laptop yeah and and spend dedicated time doing certain things you know especially if you I can't keep up with emails it's impossible it just doesn't doesn't make sense see that's basically all I do I can't do it it doesn't work I filtering and all kinds of stuff there's like people who will email me 15 times a day okay and well the thing is of those 15 messages there's one gem in there so but you have to check them every day otherwise in three days you've got 4,500 messages that doesn't make any sense how many 45 100 4500 mess from that one guy oh yeah but but I put him in his own email box I and so then you know like when I'm prepping for the show like no no no no I can just see boom maybe check that out yeah so I'm a real that's a I'm a real information manager that's by the way I am not a big believer in the benefits of AI at this moment um but if it can fix my email then I'll believe it and so far no one's done that with em how could it possibly fix your email it should know what I want to see and what's relevant to to me based upon how about the transcript of my show or I mean all these wonderful inputs I can give it how come it can't do that it's no one has fixed email for me when you do that then I'll be a little more little more of a believer in AI right now I think it's a great parler trick I think it's keeping the stock market afloat um you know we've gone through three AI Winters even has his own Wiki page AI winter it it it comes and goes you know at a certain point it was uh list was the program pramming language and then you know that went away and then funding dries up and you know now it's like what we don't really need $100 million to build a model oh but wait a minute they stole that from you so you can copy I I run these models at home on my own computer I run the Llama model which is uh meta they've open- sourced it I've um I've run the French one whatever their frog model whatever they call it and um and then deep seek you can also just load that on own computer and it's not very impressive I mean it's just not the the error rate is too high
so I'm I'm skeptical of it really taking off and I certainly don't think it's sentient or anything of that kind I think it's on its way and uh um I think also the versions that we're getting are not the versions they're currently working on and the people that I know that are in the loop at the highest levels of AI are alarmed including Elon I had a conversation with Elon we went to uh we were in line together to go to church the day of the inauguration it just happened to be right next to him and we just walked through together like hey what's up and that's all I wanted to talk about was um the leaps that grock AI is making and he's like it's like weekly we're shocked mhm and I think this thing is exponential and when they start attaching large language models to Quantum Computing it's going to get very very weird that's the pivot I'm waiting for when people start that's coming man and that's going to be like an asteroid hitting the Yucatan you know we've been waiting for quantum computers to actually work for 30 years and it's always 10 years away and right now it's 10 years away yeah but right now they're able to do things with them you know they're able to solve very complicated algorithms one there was I'm not an expert in this but there was one computation they did and you know that may be a computation do it's not necessary that you can give it any computation you know that the computations that it's doing are are so insanely complex that they believe it's proof of the Multiverse yeah I've heard this yeah you're not you're not buying it no not at all not for a second how come because I how dare you I'm a lite I'm a lite look at me how dare you crush my I believe in this I've got a smoke in my car for a number of reasons one is I'm not using it I am I am the techno guy I've always been early in computers early in the internet and I just can't find the use for it when I find the it's you know it does some simple things it's very good at language honestly if I'm look if I was like okay here's my situation I'm looking for Bible scripture it'll come up with something good and then I can say and read it to me like a like a Baptist pastor and it'll go hey brother you know know he'll do all that stuff but okay
you know it has all of the translations of the Bible in it and so it can it can predict reasonably what scripture will work it's usually not all that great it can do term papers it can do you know we're in a position now where people are putting their resume into chat GPT sending it off you know thousands of people are sending off for a job and the other end that people are taking that resume putting in a chat GPT and saying please summarize this resume I mean that's insane it's like what are we doing here that doesn't make any sense if it can fix my email that' be very impressed that's all I want that's all particular puzzle though that's the thing everyone's email is a puzzle it's like you know the spammers get around stuff and they figure it out and you you say report a Spam and then it comes back in a different way and you know every and how many older people especially but even people our age who get scammed by um you know these emails that look pretty convincing and then the minute you click you know then you're they're like oh I should put my password in and then then you're gone you're done there was there's a phone scam going around right now which is unbelievable they had me going for 15 minutes I got a call uh it was 8:00 in the morning right at 8:00 and I'm about to walk the dog so I press it the voicemail I come back I listen this is the sheriff um uh from um um Travis County and it had a 512 number and you know I need to talk to you urgently I'm like okay this is kind of messed up I call back I get a I get someone oh I want Sheriff so and so yeah hold on a second we'll transfer I'm hearing you know like police radio chatter in the background the guy gets on and he's saying well you were an expert witness you were called to be an expert witness in a case I just happened to and maybe this is not coincidence I was asked to testify on someone's behalf in a in a case and so you were supposed to be an expert witness in this case you didn't show up U so you know you've basically broken federal law and you know we have to come and pick up and we have to you know or you can pay a fine and and then I'm like okay and it and it just kept on going and I'm like whoa hold on a sec it sounded so real and then at a certain point he like well you
need to go you need to get a coupon to send this money I'm like I'm going to call my lawyer you can't call your lawyer I have a do not hangup uh uh order I have to walk you through the whole process I'm like okay now I got it but that was 10 15 minutes later and a lot of people have fallen for this one it's it's good super sophisticated huh overseas are they like spoofing a number that's these were American voices it sounded like a sheriff it really did and the deputy sounded like a deputy I mean it was sophisticated it's good wow how much was the fine like uh 3,000 for this for this infraction and 2,000 for that infraction you know for these two different things and then you're going to bank transfer so they're going to get your bank numbers but I mean at that point I I I caught on like no hold on a second you know how'd you get off of it I said I'm going to call my lawyer and he's like no no I'm like you can't tell me I can't call my lawyer this is bull crap and then and I had to calm down I'm like I said to Tina I said listen to what just happened to me this is crazy some people I know in our in our in in Fredericksburg actually went all the way wow yeah older people you know and they were afraid they're like oh Authority that's how they get yeah I'm sure you've got the the one that says uh this is my favorite Bitcoin scam it's like uh uh okay I've installed a spyware on your computer and I saw what you were doing looking at that porn site and I've recorded everything and I'm going to release it all to your to your friends and on your social media if you don't send me $2,000 in Bitcoin right away don't even think about contacting the authorities have you ever gotten that one no they've sophisticated it even more now will they they'll use your name and your address oh I know you live at this address it's it's freaky man so that kind of stuff would be nice if we could have ai protect us from that yeah if it can do all these wonderful things focus on that help people save people now yeah cut out cut out the scam yeah cut out speaking of scamming what do you think about [ __ ] coins like what's what's your take on like Haka coin okay milania coin and those are more mem more meme coins um [ __ ] coins right isn't that what a m is any so the only coin I believe in is
Bitcoin and we've talked about this before right in fact I looked it up hoping you would bring it up two years ago when I was here the last time Bitcoin was around $40,000 today it's close to $100,000 this this will continue to go up uh until we're long gone um it's very interest so I don't believe in in shitcoins at all because if you have Bitcoin has no CEO there's no one in charge of it it's literally 10 of thousands of people around the world who run these nodes that make it open and make it run and keep it at this 21 million coin limit I'm totally down with Bitcoin I'm with you but I think the shitcoin thing is fascinating that anybody can create a coin yeah you know like Jamie has a a pull it up Jamie coin I don't know if you know that well but I did not make it that don't put that on me do not it's out there now now that you just said it now that we just said it because we brought it up yesterday with the bone yard guy with John Reeves and uh we said you should have your own coin get the Boneyard coin and now apparently somebody made one so this is you bring this up in context of scams because they are scams the way it work so if if I wanted to make a quick quick amount of money I'd have a a shitcoin and I'd have my bots ready and I'd say Hey Joe have you heard about my my Curry coin and You' be like no wait and it would come out and it would Skyrocket my bots would sell it I would make a lot of money and it would be dumped right away it's a over and over and over again what if you don't sell it yeah then then you'll have uh empty bits worth nothing but if you so it's only available for Pump and dumps that's what that's the only thing it's good for it's it's not good for anything else what about if you wanted to use it to finance charity is it possible bad idea bad idea is bad idea yeah um you know a lot of Charities now they will accept Bitcoin and why is that good because people have Bitcoin and I have some Bitcoin you know I've been saving my Bitcoin for a long time instead of selling it to which I then have to pay Capital Gains over the difference between what I bought it for and sold it at I can give it to the charity I can still take my my tax deductible right off they can do one of two things they can convert it right
away into Dollars no capital gains because it's the same the same minute so I've actually been able to give more than I would have or oops or they can um they can sell some of it and hold some of it for a longer term I really really believe in Bitcoin and what we're seeing now there is something interesting going on uh our dollar is in big big trouble and president Trump knows this this this falls into kind of the Tariff uh talk um have you heard about stable coins no okay do you mind if I just little our monetary system it really started after World War II 1944 um we were nearing the end of the war D-Day was coming maybe just happened it was we're getting pretty close and um uh Europe in particular was very worried that after the war they would fall into the same Great Depression that happened after World War I when we had the Great Depression so they brought in all the uh all the economist and all the money people got on the Queen Mary and went to the states to Breton Woods you've heard of Breton Woods probably no the Breton Woods system okay so Breton Woods is just this Resort they all got together and they decided that they would have a new Monet system for the entire world I'm not an economist but I've I've looked at this long enough to understand it and um when they came out after two weeks said okay we're going to have this thing called the international monetary fund the IMF and they're going to uh manage the interest rates or they manag the currency exchange between all the individual countries with the US dollar as the reserve currency so we became the money of the world and we back it by gold and the idea was one $1 could always be exchanged for 35 ounces of gold and you know when you're the reserve currency everyone has to have the dollar so everybody wanted our dollar what did we do we signed the Marshall Plan we sent tens you know just billions of dollars over all our companies went into Europe started building factories and and you know so all so the dollar kept going in all these other currencies kind of came a little bit weaker because we were so strong with our money and then people got a little worried about the dollar they looked around and went like hey do you guys have the gold to back that up in Fort Knox of course we didn't because
we just kept printing money and sending it over and then you get into this thing called the the triffin dilemma and that means that when you are the reserve currency your currency is basically overvalued and you can't export anything and that's exactly and I'm skipping over a lot but that's where we are today our products are too expensive to ship to China and sell in China because of the value of our dollar this is why president Trump is saying hey all our money is Flowing out towards you we need to get some of that back so we're going to raise tariffs I think it's a short-term solution so I think uh two things will happen um one is we have this Sovereign wealth fund which you've heard him talk about the Sovereign wealth fund so in that will be the value of you know our our public land that the government owns and all kinds of other things be valued at this astronomical amount and in that will also be the Strategic Bitcoin Reserve that the president uh promised now we get stable coins this is this is a crazy crazy thing that's happened there's this so stable coin is a digital dollar it's it's pegged to the dollar so it's always a dollar and you can pay with this through the internet through you know apps and everything um it's already being used all over the world the only reason it's worth a dollar is because the stable coin company that creates it they have debt and paper to back it up so they buy America's debt they get treasury bonds or t bills which actually pays uh a dividend so you get interest on that and for each dollar they have bought in treasuries they can create a stable coin so if you look at the company tether they have bought more of the United States debt than most countries they have 100 60 billion worth of US debt and for each of those dollars they've created a stable coin which now people can use all over the world transacting wow and what's their business it there like 50 people in the company so they have $160 billion at 4% interest annually they're making bank just for just for holding this debt so I think president Trump is very smart and he's seeing that we can flood the world with our stable coin and you you kind of get a two for one so you you you create you create a dollar of debt but then you
create another dollar on top that can be used all over the world as our as the reserve currency and that should probably result in I don't know the the mara Lago accord or some new monetary system that we're going to have to come up with um to really have our dollar be valued properly but also still remain the reserve currency and remain the strong export country that we need to be because you know what do we do we don't make anything that that we sell abroad you know we can't all be you know serving each other Burgers and Fries and and washing each other's cars and cleaning each other's homes we have to we have to build something and all of that went overseas everything everything we got all the stuff on this table this you know it didn't come out of his butt this is from China although I don't know so so there's some something big coming really big and it has to happen and um Trump is a very meta guy people misunder understand he he's going to refy the country that's what he he's a real estate guy he's he's going to figure out a way to refy it and it'll it'll be digital and a lot of the bitcoiners don't like this because they like Bitcoin to be the money that the whole world uses you know that may one day happen but you know now it's more like the digital gold you know you can you can keep your your value in it and you know I can send a billion dollar if I had it I could send a billion dollars to another country to another person in 10 minutes and you know no one can stop me um so it's a very useful tool but it hasn't quite turned out to be money or currency uh the way it was originally intended but it's going to be a very important part of it I think you'll see Bitcoin uh be a part of that strategic Reserve it's very it's easier than sending gold you know than oh I'm going to ship you a billion dollars worth of gold I need you know Armored Cars I need dudes everything uh security and the ships and whatever um so it'll be a part of it and you'll still be able to use it between people um but it looks to me like stable coin tether in particular is going to be the the future of of the US dollar payments and this is where a lot of people on the right certainly are very afraid of um control grid you know because a
stable coin is not necessarily like Bitcoin you can stop it you can control it you can see who sent what to whom there's a lot of fear about this um and particularly um although I don't see any maliciousness um this fear that Elon and the PayPal Mafia and Peter teal all guys you've met all guys you've had on the show I think are actually quite nice people that they're going to bring in the new with AI and we're all going to be locked in and you know Stargate will bring cancer mRNA vaccines that'll be mandated I mean people are spinning up over this stuff and I'm not saying that they're necessarily wrong or there should be no concern uh but we are moving towards a digital dollar and it will have aspects of control which is why I like the backup of Bitcoin so I can still transact and do things without anybody being able to stop it and you're going to get none of that with a shitcoin nothing when FTX the Scandal what what were they trading in was that all meme coins was that different cryptos is is there a difference between mem coins and the established crypto coins well an an established anything but Bitcoin has someone who can who can change the Ledger who can change the blockchain Bitcoin you can't do that it has Che it's it's a beautiful system the checks and balances are immutable I mean that that's the beauty of of Bitcoin any other blockch that is owned or operated by a company or people can be and will be manipulated and FTX was one of those what I believe FTX was really used for was slush fund into Democrat Party and politician not just also to some Republicans as well um that kid that Sam bankman freed he got abused by his parents I think I'm just alleging this I don't want to get sued over it but when you see what what was going on there and the money that was just being you know slushed right through into different foundations Democratic operatives right big time they had they had nonprofits and all kinds of uh and he was the number two donor to the Democratic party that's right which is crazy you're doing that to kind of buy your way through this seemed like to me yeah cuz you're doing Shenanigans you know time and they're all also doing amphetamines and polyamorous relationships in the Bahamas like it's a polycule Joe it's just a polycule I mean it it was it was sad for
these kids because they were just all excited and doing stuff and you know I mean when I've been in I've raised money from Kleiner Perkins and seoa capital and you know when you get them all googly Gaga over oh this guy was so cool he was sitting in the pitch meeting and he was playing a video game he's such a genius I mean what are you kidding me right Venture Capital investors are not necessarily the most sophisticated well they want results and if they're getting results they'll put on the blinders what I I I was just reading about Elizabeth Holmes uh oh yeah I love that story she got screwed she got screwed oh yeah how so well okay so she was in a situation where the SM the so-called smartest investors in the world which included Cole and Powell and you know everyone was in on this deal everyone's like you got to get your money in now you know bring everybody in we got this big fund this is going to be it this is the blood test it'll change medicine and you know they hyped her up they put her in the magazines they got on you know she's looking like the female Steve Jobs and she got caught up in it and and FAL and falsified agency away from her she changed her voice she started dressing like Steve Jobs she started lying about results she fired people that didn't go along with it yes but does she deserve to go to jail for 10 years for ripping off people who were stupid yes really well you can't rip people off I think it's think you have restitution and things hundreds of millions of dollars people lost like that's not restit you don't have that money you're not going to pay it back because your product sucks so they've dumped all this money and lost Civ it's a civil crime and there's there's definitely some blame on the investors but the investors were too big to look stupid so I think they pushed a little bit more on her than she just I'm not trying to defend her her false jail at all yeah but not for 10 years how long a couple days yeah just a couple days yeah just just enough to transition Joe yeah just enough to come become a dude and then we're good to go no I mean the it's just another example of of big money being stupid and they maybe they could just admit that you know like they pushed her I know how it goes I know I remember we had a pod show which was you
had a lot of sophisticated investors Kleiner and um uh and seia you know this like the same people Elon I met Elon when uh when they launched the Tesla I was at the at the hangar where they where they did the first test drives it was it was interesting um and I was like this guy seems like on the Spectrum he's not really talking much like like what's going on here you know like what's happening with this um and you know so we were doing podcasting so this is right after maybe a year after Steve jobs put it into into iTunes and the and the iPod and and so there was money coming in and you know the first thing they said is you've got to be in San Francisco well if you want a media company where's the last place you want to be in San Francisco you need to be LA or New York no no no you got to be here and why they want you to be in San Francisco so they could come and see the office and check out the operation and make sure their money's being spent well and how often are they going to visit oh you have no idea they're always dropping by like what's going on and so you're doing reports and oh they just want to hang out with the cool guy that well that too maybe but then you know it it was definitely a struggle we were actually kind of profitable for a bit there but it it was you know like GoDaddy ads with promo codes you know code Bonino I mean it's like you know it was like yeah is are people really listening or they just using the codes and there was there's always a lot of scams in the honey scam well no not like that no there's there's scams of you know when companies need to we didn't do this but when companies need to raise more money in Silicon Valley then they'll buy some traffic from Bots and I'm sure it happens on with comedy videos too people like I need some traffic on this video let me buy some bots on something you definitely can do that right right of course yeah um but then at a certain point um YouTube had come out you know and oh YouTube everyone has to do video now you got to do video you can't do audio got to do video and then it got even worse like we said in a in a board meeting and like have you seen Juiced juice ju I'm like do you remember Juiced j o o s t oh yeah it was the guys who who built Skype they
built this video platform that was basically a peer-to-peer streaming television shows and there was no doubt about it you've got to go video be more like juice make your interface like juice so at a certain point you're like well what am I going to do am I going to risk running out of money am I going to listen to what they say do they really know what they're talking about and ultimately you know the company ran for 10 years and no one exited you know it just kind of got folded into other things so it was not a great investment uh of their money or my time honestly well it's kind of amazing that the big video platform is still just YouTube and now you know YouTube just passed Netflix now is the most watched thing on television oh they they're the big they're not even counted in the streaming uh data in the streaming Wars but yeah they're the big I have YouTube TV I don't I cut the cable watch I don't have cable anymore it's like I'm just I watch YouTube on TV more than I watch anything cuz there's so much variety there's so many different things you can search the fact that you could essentially find anything like if I'm interested in you know some particular region of the world of ancient history I just P punch that into YouTube and I have hundreds if not thousands of videos on it it took them a long time um to get I think to make that profitable inside of Google because if you if you see how many videos are being up loaded daily and transformed into digital video and I mean it's it's crazy the amount of computation that goes into YouTube and the amount of bandwidth that is being sent so I think it took a long they never really reported the numbers they've only done that in the past couple of years with how much revenue now of course YouTube is is making bank I mean it's really it's an incredible shocking that no one has come up with anything even remotely close it would take too much money it's so much investment that goes into into doing that it's it's it's a lot I mean you remember your bandwidth cost back in the day pre Spotify you know think how how do you solve that when you have a hundred million videos being posted every single day yeah you can't I mean you You' have to have billions of dollars in startup money and then then
you're still struggling to get people to use your app like you remember that one company that came up was it quibby what was it the one yes was that what it was they spent so much money was was it kenberg kenberg and um I do remember it was a Hollywood thing it was I think it was quey jam and they got a bunch of famous people to do short videos short short drama and they put2 billion dollars in and yeah gone they blew it real quick because you can't can't manufacture something that goes viral no you can't and that's kind of like Tik Tock we talked about Tik Tok last time I think I was here and you know obviously it's not an issue now that China is spying through TI talk because it's still here I think as I told you then I I think it's because they were eating silicon Valley's lunch you know doing $4 billion dollar taking away revenue from them and just looking at the people who sponsored the bill it seemed like they had a lot of um donations from Google and Amazon you know that just seemed to me like there might be some some issues there but what people misund understand about Tik Tok is it's not just about the videos and the and the format and how it flies by it's about the shop the shop is their magic sauce if you look at the back end um the influencers who get paid on Tik Tok they have this whole back end with rankings and who sold more stuff half the videos on Tik Tok once you get out of your algo half of them are about products and people are you know just selling products and it's all from China and it's all been coming in under the $800 di Minimus um uh tax regulation so there's no there's no import Duty or anything paid on it they they actually have I think teamu now has warehouses in America so it's just Chinese crap that we're buying over and over again as wildly successful it's not really about the ads on on do you get ads on Tik Tok a lot of ads I don't use Tik Tok okay good yeah I got so when it was going to go away I'm like I got to get this app I got to see what happens you know it's like this is gonna be crazy so I get the app and I'm using my uh my graphine OS phone so I can lock off all access all it all it had was my location can't hide that from the IP address and my name so um you can get Tik Tok on a graphine phone yeah oh yeah yeah and you can
actually block it from accessing your contacts black but still that was too much for you you had to go to a flip phone that's interesting well that was my it's my experimental thing and so all it knew was Adam curry in the Hill Country and it went I think it went Curry black name Hill Country there's probably about 50 churches where he is boom right away I'm getting black preachers BR hellstone brim oh yeah and it's just like and on and on and on it's been phenomenal so and some of these guys are pretty good the ones that fall back you know it's like and the guy catches them every single time and so their algorithm is just give that person more of what they want they're not they're not trying to do like us like in like you know meta or um I'm not sure about X how that works but let me inject some people who are against it or have a counter uh a counter argument like when uh when I was on the last time and I talked about my my coming to Jesus dude there were Tik Tock videos with millions of views of just this you know this is one bit and and if you looked at it one time it just you get the same over and over again they get all kinds of Jesus stuff back and forth that's all not anyone going yeah you guys are crazy you know this no good none of that so it's a very friendly it's kind of the Chinese model you know it's like give people what they want and don't try to interject them or spin them up or get them angry and then throw an ad in their face when they're all emotional so it's very different it's very different kind so I don't know if it'll be worth anything to anyone buying it unless you have the shop portion without that I don't know I don't don't you think they'd have all that too I mean you got to have you got to have the products if you got to have the cheap Chinese products that's that's the problems like do you have that that stuff I mean you have to be buying them from China yeah it's it's fun for you know for us like oh you know different crazy people I mean Dvorak use it all the time he's he's in an algo of just nut jobs you know he's like blue hair look at this he plays Clips on the show I'm like dude you got you got to do something else with your life during the day amazing how many of those cooky people are getting so much traction and
that was the thought that it was a Chinese scop that they were accentuating all these people and that was like ruining the culture of America because it was showing you all these blue-haired Psychopaths with beards and lipstick and nail polish it's really so I heard the same thing from I heard people saying dude you're wrong they want to get rid of Tik Tok because that's where Maga lives I'm like huh and then because that's all they got they got mag and because that's what offends them so they exactly so it's just it's just it's very social media the internet in general was kind of a bad idea it's kind of hurt it's good for many things but there's two sides of the same coin this good and bad I mean uh why would you say it's a bad idea though I think it's a great idea well I mean you were just talking about the shift the balance of information because of the scops if we're not aware of the scops and you know the DARPA the Defense Agency research project agency agency um I had too many agencies in there DARPA the 70s they've been looking at social networks and really in the there's a ah there's a guy he come came with the law of large numbers and they they figured out that in a computer network regardless of the content um depending on if you have enough nodes You can predict where the information will flow so um if I'm talking about something here if they boost the right nodes they can predict where that information will go and that's that's how I don't think even Elon can stop that from happening it's not an algorithm thing it's it's literally like a law of nature thing that just it that's the way it will flow and you can start injecting things through the right nodes and you'll propagate some message and I mean it I think it's happening all the time everywhere I mean once you start looking it's like well where's that coming from well I think we need to educate people on how to um how to digest social media and you know I think you should treat it the same way you treat junk food you know and I think there's certain aspects of social media that are really interesting and I like them I mean most of what I get on social media is what my friends send me so that's how that's how I do it and this is how I stay sane is like my friends
send me wacky things and I go oh my God what is this like my me and my friend Christina pitsky she sends me like the the nuttiest like trans activist screaming and nutty guys who think that they're women and then uh me and Tom siguro we exchange uh murder videos murder and uh and car accidents and animal attacks and then you know before breakfast no I try not to in the morning but sometimes I have to check my text message because I have business stuff I have things things going on you know guests and this and that and so I do check but you know it's just it's very intoxicating to just sit there on the toilet and just start scrolling toilet scroller but you gotta you know you got to develop discipline and discipline is important for every aspect of your life just you have to know like when you've had too much but that's that's not easy for young kids you right it's not but I think they can learn just like they've learned everything else in this world and but you need Parental Guidance and most of the parents are hooked on it themselves well I think they need a message you know and I think this conversation is part of that message you know I think kids need to realize like you are wasting time like if you spend 2 hours just scrolling through Tik Tok you have wasted time and there's stuff that you probably should be doing and you're going to be depressed if you don't do those things you're going to feel weird you're not going to feel satisfied you're not going to feel like you're on a good path you're going to like not have a lot of uh respect for yourself if you just like sit on the couch all day and scroll through Tik Tok which many people listening to this have done a whole day just sitting there eating chips scrolling to and just wasting your day that is possible to do I think there's ways that you can incorporate it into your life where it's interesting you know and I've got good algorithms now uh especially on YouTube but pretty good algorithms on Instagram too where most of the stuff it's showing me is stuff I'm actually interested in so do you get those videos when you're interested in a topic and then there'll be like five different videos that are being suggested to you in about 5 minutes it's in you're like
this is just an AI voice that's that's cobbled a whole bunch of old things together and it's a new version of it and I'm not learning anything yeah there there's always those too I think YouTube is the best because like I'm interested in specific subjects right like I'm a car nut I love old cars in spe particular this by the way lots of people love restored things people love restored cars we love you have I I think you of your car which one um the Corvette oh yeah I mean beautifully restored just just Peak last time I saw it which was I think La this is what I think the president is doing he's trying to restore us back to being that great American muscle car and I think people everybody loves a beautiful restored muscle car you know what I mean well America's making real muscle cars right now like this is one of the rare times where America's got very exciting automobiles that are out now you know we we've talked a bunch of times about the Corvette ZR1 which is breaking all these lap that's the is that the mid engine is the Mid Engine 1,000 horsepower Corvette that won't let buy one I'm like let me just you got to put your foot down no no I'm good I'm good tells you what to do no no no she's like that's a douchebag car yeah for me it would be kind of douchy why yeah I mean it's awesome H don't think that way that's silly ever since I started flying 350 M hour I don't care about how fast I go on the ground Jo it's not even how fast go it's just well that's why I like old cars cuz it's not even how fast go I had a C5 though I did have a long time ago those are cool they were a little shitty actually they really got good around C7 C7 was nasty that heads up display was cool though was like oh C5 had a heads up display had a heads up look at that that's the new one that's the Z1 come on son that is not a douchebag car that's a godamn Amer yeah that's a [ __ ] American work yeah yeah it's nice can I get my dog in it though can I get my dog how big is your dog 95 lbs what is he she is a great panes akbash rescue mut oh that's cute yeah completely white I didn't mean to misgender your dog yeah Ang look how awesome that looks man you don't have to take a dog everywhere reward yourself Adam Curry you're the
Pod father get a [ __ ] Corvette look at that thing that's beautiful cockpit inside of that that is beautiful and the performance of that is unparalleled it's like it's an amazing automobile a friend of mine he just we cuz he's a real American car he just bought a a Tesla Model 3 and he bought it for the autopilot he says I wish this came in 16 cylinder you know multi- turbo he says yeah but he says the autopilot he just loves that he loves the autopilot I have a s The Plaid I have a plaid Tesla the four-door larger sedan PL does have the autopilot full self drive it's incredible it's incredible I don't use it that much I like to drive but just the capability of the car is amazing yeah the speed and the effortlessness and which it merges with traffic and just takes off with no sound it's beautiful man it's beautiful yeah but it's different so I like I like old air cooled Porsches I had a 911 a long time ago fast they're not fast they're not fast in man manual the truck clutch like you got to push that thing in well it's they're floor mounted too they're different old Porsches are different but it's um what they are is uh a physical experience it's like a ride it's a fun exhilarating experience where you hear the you hear the engine you're Shifting the gears yourself it's exciting and engaging and that is more important to me sometimes than just speed like I don't need to go fast it's not even about going fast it's about the whole the whole experience yeah you're feeling the rear end break a little with your ass you know as it can't do that anymore these modern cars man it doesn't work anymore we used to put Porsche engines into VW buses back in the day Jesus that was awesome you could Al you can fit it in a in a beetle too you can fit you can fit a Porsche engine into a b oh yeah a lot of people have done crazy Beetle Transformations where they've hyped up Porsche engines and put them in the back of those things yeah there's a whole like modding community of be Beetle freaks they take beetles and they're Volkswagen they're Volkswagen remember how many there were in the 70s coming in from Germany we all had a I had a 1303 I loved my Beetle it was yeah when I was a kid my friend Jimmy had one he had a he had a beetle it was just cheap on gas
was easy to drive mine was like I like I had to jump start it because the lock had broken so like he jump started every time got jump started every time you got in and then I'd lost my gas cap and so I've just had a rag in there oh God and and if I went um around the highway to the right and if my tank was too full then gas would leak out and my front tire would start to slide off it's like it was the back you know we 18 you know you know just like E I got to drive this thing it was great I love that was a good we weren't scrolling on Tik Tok Joe Rogan we were doing dangerous stuff that's true we were jump start in our cars and we well I think we're lucky that we've seen both we've gone through we grew up in a time where was no internet and you were going outside to do things and people did physical activities but then as we got older we re recognized that there's this new technology that's connecting the whole world in this weird way and we're getting to experience it as people who know the world before that I think we're real lucky well you're you're a big part of of of a change certainly in young men I mean I've seen so many young men who um follow you and follow your workout regime and follow you know listen to you they listen to you about what you're saying about health about food and that's a that's a re you're an important voice in that regard you've really really uh helped a lot of young men in our country and far beyond I mean I know you don't take compliments like this well but just you're it's very important what I'm very happy if that's true very important what you're doing there's a lot of young men that just feel like real disconnected to the world and nothing seems to be anything that is interesting to them and they're being pushed into this box where someone's trying to turn them into a [ __ ] Chihuahua you know like this is like the evolution of the wolf into the dog that's what's happening with men like for some reason men are supposed to be neutered you know um there's um in the six so I've been ever since I uh I got saved and become a Believer there I've really learned about our American history and I've been blown away by how much cuz a lot of you know you talk about the' 60s and when they outlawed psychedelic drugs and put it on schedule
one that was the exact same time when the Bible was basically taken out of school and it was you know and and um I think the church in general you know kind of went into itself and kind of you know became you a thing you do over there on Sundays can we pause real quick because I got to take B let's let's pause we'll come back we'll talk about Jesus we'll be right back yeah all right we're back yeah yeah oh man much better right thank you thank you so we were going to talk about The Vaping thing cuz you're saying that there's nothing wrong with vaping well I didn't say there's nothing wrong with vaping so what is that let can I see it yeah can I hold it yeah so this is a brick man you could hurt somebody with this if you wanted to [ __ ] somebody up well if you get a good grip yeah just it's like brass knuckles almost like holding a roll of pennies yeah this no you wouldn't do that you're going to break your hand that's all silly that's why I I carry my gun that's probably better much that's the battery the battery heavy so it's so when I gave up I've always take a pull of this yeah yeah so it's the the top button press it and just suck what is the the flavor of this H tobacco is tobacco is yes tobacco basically so that was a little hit yeah you kind of big one let let it warm up a little bit let it yeah press the button and then yeah there you go it's cracking yeah yeah go go go go go there you go that's definitely different than the gas station ones oh you don't want those this is organic juice it's got 0.3 m% nicotine I wind my own coil made out of silver the cotton is americanmade cotton not from China no I've I've got into this cot cotton what's the cotton for so if you look at the the mechanism see okay so the cotton sucks up the juice and then the coil warms up so the Cotton's like the filter no the cotton it has the juice in it and then when the coil warms warms up it creates the vapor from the juice that's in it so do you have to constantly refresh the cotton yeah and so you just dunk your cotton in the juice no no no no the juice is inside it's in the tank yeah it has little wires in there so crawl put new cotton in every now and again yeah unwind new coil from time to time how long do you have to wait before you put new cotton in it depends I do it usually
once every couple of days that doesn't give me the weird headrush that the gas station ones do that's Chinese crap that's the what I like though I like all right good luck to you I would like the first hit that's what you like off those the gas station Vapes it's like you're chasing the dragon you get that first hit you're like first hit's like ah so relaxing and then after that you never get that again so I really got into this uh there was a store in Fredericksburg called vaporlicious they've retired now they've tired Jerry and Kathy and they're two old hippies from uh why do they make it so unwieldly well you can get all kinds of different versions but I'm a serious user so I need this whole battery I have a whole kit with me man I got a screwdriver to open this up and put a new batter with your lungs or your health or anything like that no I've I've never felt this good okay and so this is different juice so what is the juice cuz the thing about the the the actual oil is the issue right yeah and this is a thing like a lot of these cheap ones that you're buying off the gas station you don't know what's in there this is this is glycol which is it's essentially the same stuff that's in the theatrical M machines okay only much watered down and and all it does is Just Produce vapor and so what is vapor well is mainly water and of course you're mixing it with nicotine and nicotine you know that's that's the piece that I've always liked uh about smoking uh but now I don't get the tar I don't get all other contaminants and I don't get high you know I stopped I kind of stopped I used to smoke a lot of weed I stopped and just I haven't felt like doing it anymore you know like a glass of wine but no and so this I do have Gorilla grip on it it's like everywhere I go I'm like where's my vape where's my vape I'm fully fully aware I'm addicted to more the the motion of it because all I mean I would I would roll up you know I could roll them with one hand behind my back and been doing it so long it's a real spliff with tobacco with weed and then it would go out and I put it down and I come up pick it up again at a certain point it was like 3 in the morning I'd wake up like I think I'll go roll a roll a joint you know smoke a whole spliff go
back to bed I mean got to be a little I was smoking a lot you know and without it I'm very productive Joe I got I got to tell you I'm super productive I'm do nitin is very good for productivity and for me caffeine it can work well those those are my two drugs you know caffeine and nicotine I I kind of I kind of dig it I really do it's they're very good for productivity yeah is it is there any bad stuff I mean I know it it um constricts your blood flow uh in your mouth and in other parts probably I mean obviously you're putting something in your Stream So it I don't know but you like those uh those pouches yeah I do but I I wanted to see what happens if I took time off and I went out of the country for 5 days and didn't bring them and I was fine didn't bother at all I was like I would I was wondering if I'd be like itching for one like I'm okay on the plane I can fly to Europe I'm like you know I'm I'm okay I don't I don't need to go in the bathroom and just get a quick one in there on the plane you know this is a very bad idea if you do not want to be caught vaping on the plane oh really yeah of course I have will that set off a fire alarm um I don't know can you blow it right into the toilet uh know you can do what they call zero zero zero Vape which is basically you inhale and you just hold it in until nothing comes out oh wow yeah or you know I've done one of these like and they go on your jacket yeah I know I've seen people do that like the movie theater that that is not approved Behavior so I do not condone that you know it's okay I can handle not not vaping for eight hours what so what's in the gas station ones when you're getting that knows what's in the oil who knows it who knows that's maybe what killed some people early on in covid you know it might have been bad uh a lot of THC of course these pre-made cartridges you just don't know what's in it it's like no don't don't Vape that stuff do not Vape the pre-made things I mean this is fun you get to learn how to do it it's manufacturing you know it's you get into I can really get into it like I got this this diameter silver wire and five you know you do five um five Loops or six Loops for different impedance oh yeah there's a whole I mean this tank you know this thing is like it's you tried different I have must have 18 different
Vapes that I've tried and like this is the one somebody gave me one at one point in time it was like it was carrying around a phone it was like I was carrying around it was the size of your flip phone yeah and I was like this is ridiculous that's me baby that's me I don't want to have another heavy thing in my pockets or on my fanny pack it's like yeah no this is it's okay I mean it's all right and then this thing that but you decided that the phone was too invasive even with the graphine OS yeah and you had yeah because you could still do everything just not being tracked and and so I used to go to bed and we go to bed at the same time you know we always watch some stupid like we're in season seven of Seinfeld right now you know so we'll watch a half hour of stupidity and and then we go to bed and I used to be on my phone you know for half an hour scrolling stuff or whatever and then you know okay I'm tired yeah because my brain has been working overtime on whatever inputs I'm giving it and now I'm like well there's nothing to scroll so I just go to bed and I'm out in three seconds I'm like I sleep and I sleep all the way through and I wake up in the morning I'm refreshed I feel good um I don't look at social media the first hour I'm up I mean on I do Bible readings and stuff and devotionals and might text A buddy of mine and I'm ready man then do you do social media in the morning no almost not at all so when you do it you do it from a computer if you check it out at all and when you do that one of the questions I had about that does that do voice to text Andrew oh that's a game however um of course when you do that Google is basically keeping your transcript there's a company in Austin called Futo wait a minute so if you just text it doesn't keep your transcript oh I'm sure it does but if you I'm not sure what how much of that it does but when you read when you speak into it it goes to the Google servers the Google server then trans transcribes it and sends it back to your phone it's not happening on the phone it's happening on Google servers and they probably keep all of that or my voice or whatever there's a company in Austin called Futo fut and they have an open- Source Voice to Text system they don't keep your transcripts and they're some good guys I've been
messing with that it's not quite as fast as will that work on that phone yeah you can install it yeah just as extra do you ever send messages with Google Voice or with with voic text on that phone I've been using Futo oh you have on that phone yeah so I use it on my phone all the time like when I'm in my car I press the little button to Series yeah so you know who knows what Apple's doing with that you don't know I mean sending it right to China all the memes maybe maybe I don't know I it's all right it's okay you know so I went to Boston you Liv in Boston didn't you so we went to go see the Doobie Brothers and when was this last year really they're they're around yes and and it was wild it was in it was in Massachusetts it was one of these um you know like amphitheaters that's half covered and we were the youngest people there and people were sparking weed you could smell the whole they're like 80-year-old dudes smoking does it was like amazing and the Dobie Brothers play and it was like what this it was the first 45 minutes is damn dude this is from our album from five years ago dude we want China Grove you know know give us Long Train Running So eventually they get into that but then they would like Michael McDonald What a Fool Believes you know I love that song he would do it scopically like what instead of doing the song like we all remember it he do what a fool believe like no no don't do that it was really disappointing but the opening act was Steve Winwood Steve Winwood's now almost 80 years old and I get goosebumps just thinking about it he railed he wailed he did you know Mr Fantasy from traffic sure which that three4 of that song is guitar solo and he's just like and go and the crowd is going nuts and he has all these young kids with him and you you see the closeup on the screens and they're like dude look at look at what he's doing it was amazing I bring it up because the next day did you go it out to to Plymouth did I go to Plymouth Massachusetts TR Plymouth Rock right so Plymouth Rock is kind of disappointing because it's like it's a rock it's just a rock and there's a structure around it and like okay you know it's a rock and there's a little sign next to it that says um we don't know that this was really The Rock but
some guy in church who was 90 years old at the time said yeah I think this was the rock so that's the rock you were talking about the Georgia guide stones a few episodes ago with somebody did you know that we have an actual guide Stone in America in Plymouth no it's called The Monument to the forefathers i' never heard of this it's about two blocks in and it's I think arguably the largest Granite structure in the in America certainly but maybe in the world it was completed in 1890 and it is the guid stone of America and if how do I not know about this no one knows about this this year check it out the thing is huge who and it's literally in a in a culdesac a residential area really there's no how old is that it was completed in 1890 after 50 years of building it wow and so this is the formula for America this is where I was going before our PE break the formula for America this so they constructed this so that if we ever lost our way we could find our way back you know when they talk about America was built on Christian values like what does that mean what does that even mean Christian values I mean even the word Christian is like that was actually a slur back in the day that they came up with for Jesus Believers so in the middle is Faith that's her name Faith and it's four sides and one is uh law education morality and Liberty and has all these cool inscriptions it's really something amazing to see and I believe that's the formula that we need to get back you actually you live like this you're Joe Rogan lives these four sides you live you understand law morality education and Liberty and if we can get back to that you know that would be just in fact um so all of our all of our early presidents all of them live by the Bible every single one of them they they wrote about it they studied it 1778 the first act one of the first acts of a Congress was to print a Bible for everybody so I brought you this is done by a group called The Wall Builders and David Barton he has all this these are the receipts so that's it's a Bible but it has three quarters of that book is writings by our early presidents all the way up through uh through Reagan and this David Barton guy he has all of these Originals I think he
lives in Alo Texas and it shows you what our code was in the early days up until the 60s and that's when you know we got this big argument about oh we can't have you know you know the whole light the first amendment is the right to establish a a religion and that has been perverted throughout the years to say well you can't have um you know the Bible in schools and the government can't tell you to do this and you can't be talking about they used to the the Hall of Congress used to be a church I mean that that's how we started and you don't have to necessarily be a a Believer or saved by Jesus just to understand where we came from and the basic tenants of law where those guys created it from you know the receipts are in the Declaration of Independence our our Bill of Rights our amendments are rights not that the government gives us you know they all say the government shall not infringe the government may not do this it's what the government could not do because we had rights given to us by our creator and I think if we got back to a little bit of that in America we might get a bit more on path which is why certainly all the all the Jesus Freaks are like w president God president Trump is talking about God he says God saved him to to save America I mean this is a president is a big deal when he does stuff like that and you can see just look at the people around us Russell Brand um Tucker Carlson uh Candace Owens I mean there's a lot of people who are now starting to see this and I know you love history that's why I bought that for you because when you see where it comes from a lot of things start to be clear and that that sculpture that was like I had no idea it was there i' never heard of it it's not in any books but it's kind of a template for where we came from and I think it's it's kind of important that we look at that as well as you know all the other things that we're looking at now with AI and social media and we can't just be sitting around for four years going yeah Trump yeah Elon Stomp the libs we've got to find some spirituality one way the other it doesn't have to be God I would like it to be but people got to find that I think uh you're saying some WI things and I think that people need some sort of a moral and ethical structure to live their life through Jordan Peterson
always has this thing like whether or not if you believe in God if you live like you believe in God you follow by you will live a better life and that is true I believe it I believe it absolutely and it's it's very simp scaffolding yeah it's very simple things you know it's the Ten Commandments aren't that hard you know it's like that's your that's your law if you believe believe that government I mean government is an extension of of God if you believe that he instates governments and I think that um I think that God gave us Joe Biden for four years I really do he said yall got to take a look he has humor too by the way like you got you should take a look and there's a story um I think it's Daniel about King Nebuchadnezzar and King Nebuchadnezzar he did not follow uh God's law and so God turned him into a donkey basically and he and he was out grazing for seven years eating grass I'm like that sounds a lot like President Biden that he just turned him into a grass eating donkey who had nothing left you know so this um well you have to see what happens when things go sideways to really understand it that's why people who grow up in poverty really can appreciate success a lot more than someone is's a trust fund kid right of course you have to know what it's like when things go bad and our country just experienced four years of being governed by people other than the elected leader and it's pretty clear now yeah and and you know the way Mike Johnson laid it out that Biden didn't know what was in some of the executive ERS didn't sign that kind of crazy crazy manzy it's interesting because some of that like how much can you attribute it to faulty memory and how much of it is actually they passed things by as desk I don't know but at the end of the day we got to see that this was not a good direction this is a terrible Direction and I think that was like one of the biggest mistakes that KLA Harris did was when she went on The View and they asked her what would you do differently and she said nothing nothing yeah which is crazy but also look at president Trump I mean can you take a more wrong guy in the opes and the opinion of presidential and everything and he learned a lot during his first term I mean this was a turnaround of Epic Proportion Epic
Proportion that and and I know biggest come back in the history of the world it it'll be in the history books it the show will be a part of that um it it's going to be incredibly important for us to look back on this because you know um like it's it's often The Misfits you know that's that's we've got to love the most so when I see the blue-haired people I'm like right I really want to love them you they probably would understand it but crazy chaotic energy if they just found something they loved and pushed it into that they'd be better off but it's also it's like what dam them up into that point like what kind of a life did they live that left them in this place where they're 35 years old weeping in front of a city council meeting like who are they and what what went wrong and this is the thing is like we kind of encourage this victim mentality we do and we reward it it has social credit to it and you you you know you get to be in a special class of people and you get to say outrageous things and and people allow you to and that's not good for anybody just like it's you have kids you know what it's like it's not good for kids like you got to tell them like well that's not real you can't do that that's not yours like there's things that you have to learn and if you reward victim mentality then people look to become victims and so that like when that lady laid out all of her [ __ ] physical ailments and all of her problems if as if that makes any of the things she's saying make sense because she has all these problems like no that's not that's not how the world you're right it's been rewarded rewarded has been rewarded by political operations mainly to get votes and to bring these people have a vote too you know they can vot so bring them in this is a part of the scop of us aidh and the scop of just the government in general these conol control structures that are essentially put in place to make sure that they remain in power you know John Perkins yes have you ever had him on no I have not oh man cuz he wrote about this you know economic Hitman yeah confession of e economic Hitman w wow I mean basically us Aid that's what they do but also State Department so you know Marco Rubio seems like a good guy I'm kind of liking him but there there
they've got intelligence units inside there there's all kinds of things that happen with state department so I hope that also gets uncovered well Mike Ben was explaining yesterday I was like this is seems so intertwined like how are you going to what what can be done in four years he goes no this is going to take 50 years more he's like going to take forever to unwind because you have to understand how deep these tentacles go and he laid it out in 4 and a half hours yesterday wow I probably talked for three minutes for the whole podcast I'm not kidding it was just with Mike he got like can I get the transcript of the show and go over it slowly because he goes fast man he goes fast the thing that will happen is viral clips of specific things that he highlights and says that are very significant are going to go those are already out and I'm sure they're all over X right now as we're speaking and I love that um doge is I was skeptical because you know we heard this during the Reagan Administration Reagan was going to do all this he was going to make government efficient and of course it didn't um when I hear that they're going to do the same thing to the military amen man yeah well they have to be accountable to to an audit yes you can't they haven't done one ever well the pentagon's failed seven of them and the the thing is like Fraud's real we know it's real and we know people are pilfering and if you go unchecked for long enough that becomes part of the way people do business and once that's established and it's been established for decades then it's very difficult to stop because as soon as you start investigating it people go to jail and so they're going to try to stop you from investigating it they're going to they're going to try to like bury records and it's G to get wild as as I'm sure Mike told you and I can't wait to see it it's not just fraud it's it is the actual system instead of us being open and I think like Trump is doing like hey we're just going to have terrorist on you NATO you don't like it boom we're not going to protect you um you know we got to be fair about this you can't just be ripping us off we've been doing all these subversive thing things with money that's just going to Nos and nonprofits I mean the whole Ukraine thing he highlighted all this
did he did he play the Victoria Newland recorded phone call no he didn't he showed the Biden thing where he said you know the the prosecutor had to be fired or they wouldn't get the billion dollars in loans right right and son of a [ __ ] well Victoria newand in 2014 the Russians I think they released they recorded a phone call and she's literally talking to the Ambassador okay we want to put this guy in the government that guy in the government this guy in Senate Kitsch leave him outside he can be the mayor or whatever I mean that's that's not cool we have some stuff to repent for when all this comes out and we should pick ourselves up and move forward and just be honest I think we I think we can do it with a lot of honesty too I hope so um but the problem is there's a lot of people that are going to be in deep trouble and they're going to try to stop that from all this accountability was Mike bullish or bearish on it well he's you know he's in the storm you know it's like he no one knows exactly what's going to happen when you're in the middle of the hurricane you're telling people what's going on and that's where he is right now I mean I asked him how do he sleep he goes like don't he needs prayers he needs some prayers I'm sure he needs that we cover him and I think his uh his fight is very Noble and he's right he's right and he's accurate and the the amount of information that guy's got in his head is astounding yeah and uh he can he he's pulling it all off the top of his head while we're talking because he lives this constantly yeah you know used to work at the state department uncovered all the stuff it's been chasing it down forever and is a you know legitimate historian on this and it's and thank you for giving him that platform he's and thank you for giving Trump a platform and all the things you've done but the people when they think of CIA and you know these types of agencies they always think you know dart guns and you know secret stuff but no it's really subversive writing articles and my whole family kind of comes from military and intelligence background so I've heard you know what I learned this is crazy so my uncle was big in the CIA he was he was the national he was basically Tulsa gabber to uh Bush senior when he was VP and then you know like uh
Iran Contra happened and you know he basically became ambassador to Korea um moved he was exonerated but he was moved out to a different post my my aunt passed away a couple years back and when my cousin was doing her eulogy she said Aunt Meg W actually outranked Uncle Don in the CIA she ran the Russia desk spoke fluent Russian but had promised never to tell anybody not even her own kids I'm like what Aunt Meg spoke fluent Russian and ran the Russia desk for the CIA and outranked Uncle Don like that's some crazy stuff crazy and all those folks you know they remember Russia as the real real bad guys I mean I went to um this is my own USA ID story so in 1988 I think it was we had the Moscow music Peace festival do you remember that no um and this is before the Wall came down and it was uh I was the only MTV person who went we went on a 727 from Newark it was aie Osborne uh basically Black Sabbath it was bonji montle crew Skid Row we stopped in Germany to pick up the Scorpions what was that flight like dude so here dude dude this you'll love this look at you guys oh yeah there you go wow so the reason filming things even back then so the reason this happen happened was look at you yeah yeah there you go Tio Torres from Bon Joi I mean so doc McGee who was the manager of bonjovi and Motley Crew his I'm I'm paraphrasing the story but I'm pretty sure it's correct that was aie I just realized that was Aussie and Sharon osor like who are those people God look at Sharon look at Sharon she's like a k and like a a British house fra nice roly poly she not the no oace for her so oace oh o OIC yeah so look at Azie so doc McGee's Lear jet have been caught smuggling like you know bales of of marijuana into Florida and his get out of jail free card was he was supposed to organize an anti-drug and alcohol concert in Moscow oh right so this is where I'm pretty sure usaid came into it and the CIA and so this was supposed to be a complete drug free alcohol free we're all going to go there we're going to do a huge one night concert we're there for a week on the plane Azie is so drunk he he's so drunk he you know so we're we're in the back there and he's he's at the at the laboratory mid mid mid plane and it's someone else is in
there and he's like like sh sh share and she like oh Alie and he pees his pants right there in the aisle like holy crap aie peed his pants Shar so this was a wild trip and I got a briefing beforehand by some dudes in suits I you know this is 88 so I don't you know I wasn't really thinking us Aid CIA and they're like here's the deal you're going to be there do do not talk to any women don't go to any hookers do not take any hookers to your room they're all going to be KGB and you you don't want any part of this and there's going to be our people are going to be watching you and KB hookers KGB hookers we actually did go to the hooker boat which is pretty wild it was a boat yeah they had a prostitute boat the ugliest hookers in the world is like n no one's going to Pirates we all we all kind of went to go check them out we're we're in the hotel they they literally turn this is you know Soviet Union still they literally turned on the heat in that part of the city was Winter and the the mattresses were made of straw and you had to bribe the lady for a phone call you'd reserve it 24 hours in advance you have to give her tuna fish and toilet paper rolls it was wild wow middle of the night I'm with Sebastian Bach from Skid Row we're outside we go to Red Square we're drinking vodka on red square at 3 in the morning walk back to the hotel there's the Moscow Hell's Angel show up and they're on like these Yugoslav Mo motorcycles and they're popping wheelies and falling off and we're like what's going on and then this this Russian official comes up with he they had the really big hats and he's like tap tap tap on the back of one of the merch trucks and all he wanted was t-shirts and so you know he gave him a whole bunch of t-shirts everybody leaves crazy so we have this concert and the kids are go they went nuts of all the bands Bon Joy monley crew Aussie they all knew Aussie they could they were all singing phonetically they they you know is H they didn't know the words you know but crazy train kind of came out of their mouth and and what was look at this yeah it was ins you can see all the can you give me some volume there's some military in front I think there it is look at that and the crowd and showed it fans stood in harmony for 12 hours to watch and listen to the likes of bonjovi
mly crew and skid who all agreed to play wow so here's the kicker the scorp had a number one hit Winds of Change The Winds of Change you don't remember the song and it was the only song they did not write and that song was the anthem when the Wall came down which happened liter oh here you go the C did the CIA a power ballot to bring down the USSR what yep Is that real I think so I think so I don't remember that song can we play some of that song and cut it out Jamie I could play play it for us and cut it out we we'll cut this part out of the show folks just go listen to scorpions what a shame man we could be scoping more Germans 1990 wow D it's good [ __ ] song yeah a CIA writes hits baby that's crazy the CIA wrote a banger a huge Banger a huge and the C here's the funniest part so when the Wall comes down this is number one like you know it was 1990 and I think I can't remember I think they might have been phonetically singing along with it in Lenin Stadium when we were there CU it was it was a number one hit it was everywhere this song this is a year before the walk came this is the song was written uh after the concert like in response to the concert okay yeah okay there I told you I don't have it all right but but but the CIA wrote it the CIA wrote they had probably had it in the archives oh my God the funniest thing was so huge in Europe at the time was Baywatch you know you know the whole have you ever had Hasselhoff on there's a funny guy this guy he's he was on Fear Factor oh he did celebrity he's a nice guy I mean I've met him a couple times you know he had to go to the bathroom a lot at the time but you know whatever you MTV beach house like his manager be like David I think you need to go to the bathroom to get some energy oh yeah anyway um but so you know the story of bay watch is phenomenal because he self- financed it nobody wanted it in America and it became this monstrous Global hit everywhere except America in the beginning and you know he became wildly successful rich and Germany is where it was number one it was just for years number one Baywatch and so Hasselhoff or as they say dehoff is hello deut here's the Hoff everyone knew him he was standing on top of the wall with a sledgehammer and he claims that
he brought down the bir wall was Baywatch a sop is that what you gotten I don't know but oh my god well this is also part of the thing that Mike Benz got into with the music business that they do sort of Finance these you know disruptive kind of songs and political movements and of course of course I mean yeah yeah it's a powerful tool man that's that um the book about Laurel K there he is there he is look he's bringing down the wall what is he singing oh he was a popar disco hits he had these poppy hits yeah and freedom baby I did it and he got his glittering jacket on and everything awesome American Icon ladies gent not even glittery that's an LED jacket like that Jacket's got a battery and of course we loved him from Night Rider you know he was a cool dude you know I had this we all wanted a kit a kit watch you which we now have of course huge overseas right that's it that was it was because of Baywatch and he had a whole music career going on and oh yeah oh man good times in the old days bro good times we had so much fun back in the early days that's so crazy that that song was written by the CIA that that Laurel Canyon thing is really interesting because I really dismissed it at first I was like come on St the government didn't have nothing to do with the rock and roll movement but kind of seems like they did but it strange times in the canyon what is that book called again I believe that's the name is that it yeah something along those lines yeah it's a weird book man yeah I read the book and I was like what the [ __ ] like how much of this is but you know when in the 60s when the agents were infiltrating uh Europe it was it was all literature art music they were bringing everything they could art especially you know just and that was really at the time to make sure scenes inside the canyon to make sure that the Russians didn't take over Europe you know there's all these all these things that they were doing well they also did it with the modern art movement absolutely thing like Jackson Pollock is a complete creation which totally makes sense cuz I was like who's paying for this like help me out y like no don't you see the way the splatters are like no why we're all questioning you Joe Rogan yeah what usaid
connections do you have I think I skipped the system I think somehow or another they [ __ ] up look at me my whole my whole family's intelligence and Military I was a Pirate Radio guy in 198 three what the they must have been like this guy's lost we can't we can't we can't use him he'll be no good I but the real cookie people probably think you're my Handler or something cuz you created podcast right because there is that thought that like this is one of the things that comes up now all the time and we talked about this on CNN we saying that there's a whole financed and backed right-wing ecosystem that's created these podcasts where's my check well this this is just stupidity this is the problem where when you look at some conspiracies you think oh that appes to all things that no there's actually some things that are organic for some weird reason what what I think we'll see um you know the first thing after the election is we need a Joe Rogan on the left we need a Joe R well you know guys you basically had a Joe Rogan on the left but you were so crazy that Joe started to think right you they didn't want me that was the thing like want but it's that's all the scop working against them because in the past they could take someone like me and demonize them and it would be effective and they could just remove you from the airwaves and then remove you as a problem cuz you're not playing by the rules but now people go oh you know what I think he's the one who's actually telling the truth let's stop listening to them and so then CNN crashes and then faith in mainstream media crashes and faith in podcast Rises I think what we'll see though is and it may come from YouTube we'll probably see them try to Hype someone up to become The Joe Rogan of the left oh they're already definitely doing that but the thing is I don't care who gives a [ __ ] let them try all right but the thing is it's not going to work unless that person's authentic because without authenticity doesn't you hear a person long enough you know what the [ __ ] they're really saying you know whether not right you know I'm wrong all the time I'm you might not agree with me that's all great but I'm not going to lie and that's the difference and it's a lot of these people are just propagandists and they're also trying to
make an argument for something without looking at the other side which instantaneously I know now you're propagandizing now you're not now you're bullshitting me I always try to look at the other side of everything I know you do as a human I think it's an important quality as a person who's like broadcasting to millions of people it's a very important quality but it's an important quality for human beings like know why you think about something like no is this just a knee-jerk reaction or is this well thought out is are you being objective or are you trying are you captured by this ideology that you're a part of to the point where you're just ignoring like this is the thing that I find fascinating about all this USA stuff because there's so many people that are so against Donald Trump dismantling the organization that they're not looking at the craziness of all the propaganda that's being exposed they they somehow another a gaslighting themselves and all their followers to say that no this is Aid people are going to starve to death there's food that's rotting but meanwhile they I think I'm pretty sure even when they passed this thing where they were trying to put a stop on us a they gave exemptions for food and Medicine yeah and certain yeah so you're hearing these [ __ ] stories of like food that's rotting now and people are going to go starving everyone's dying of AIDS like well you have figures who people see as Authority because they have a million followers and likes and then they'll they'll believe that and uh it typically doesn't work I mean it's like you remember I think it works but it works for less people there's people that want they want to be lied to they want to believe the cult they want to drink the cool they they want to and and that is where they've dug their heels in and now this is where they they stay but when you see Rachel mat who has come back you know for the first hundred days she's doing a show every single day and she's blatantly lying I mean literally like factually clearly lying a lot of people won't watch anything you know they've been told uh Joe Rogan is part of the broadcasting and you know the the this right-wing conspiracy all funded by whatever to you know to prop andiz and people are going to go over there and
they're going to believe what she says and I mean I have family members who who truly believe that President Trump will take away their social security like he's saying quite the opposite and by the way he can't take it away only Congress can take it away us Aid created by executive order by President Kennedy can be shut by executive order by President Trump that's just a fact also what they're doing is they're highlighting there's people that are supposedly 150 years old that are getting Social Security awesome some there's some weird [ __ ] going on with Social Security but you know what happened this I think this is this is what we're not being told but I have a lot of CIS admin friends from what I understand the Doge Team Four Guys initially they were in so the treasury is like our bank account is you know it's just it's one system and it sends payments through the Federal Reserve System and they all they needed to do January 21st at midnight they were in there they got all the payments they've had that at Mara Lago they've been you know you know cuz I've heard this that they've been going through it like hey there's no reconciliation there's there's just a payment with no no purchase order or no confirmation that the work was done I think at this point they're just sitting back going oh you know they can they can release more information whenever they want Department of Education is going to be next you're going to see a lot of common core craziness I mean remember that Common Core um the Pentagon um I hope they do the state department too because there's a lot going on there it's going to be interesting what resistance well the people who are squealing are the ones you want to pay attention to well that's the thing is that first of all the one we were talking about this the other day with me and my friends are saying part of the problem is these people can't conspire right now because all their phones are tapped MH everybody that for sure like if if they're investigating you if they're investigating these things like the the power that they have is astronomical it's crazy the power that they have to look into people's emails look into people's phones find out what messages they're sending they can look into your
signal all Pegasus baby yeah they look into everything so the the idea that they're not doing that if they're in the middle of some [ __ ] multi-trillion dollar investigation into rampant fraud so they know that this is going on so they can't conspire and then they also have to worry about people taking deals so there's going to be some people that squeal and so then you don't know who's your [ __ ] enemy and who's your friend and everywhere you talk you go to have a lunch with someone he's wearing a [ __ ] button camera you could be [ __ ] and so there not United right now and this is why it's working and this is why they're able to release all this information and everybody's in this hot Panic right now yeah so they're squeezing him they're squeezing him because they they have it all and thank God for James O'Keefe too man he's he's done some interesting stuff over the he certainly over the years you know he like gets people to it's amazing how many guys will open up when they think they're on a date with a hot chick or a hot guy whichever whichever one that happens to be and like oh yeah oh yeah man I'm doing all this yeah we do we don't care we we just hated Trump and did all it's like whoa these people they need to learn how to shut up I think he just got another video that he released today oh yeah there was another video today about people going around the Doge system to try to like still still do the same work bro well wasn't there there was an issue season of reveal Joe yeah wasn't there an issue with FEMA releasing is this true well so FEMA uh paid $59 million for illegal uh illegal entrance into our country for them to stay at The Roosevelt Hotel which is double the the room rate have you ever stated at The Roosevelt Hotel did way back in the day and the Roosevelt Hotel by the way is owned by Pakistan that's right it was a dump it was everyone was smoking weed in their rooms I mean I was there maybe 10 years ago 11 years ago I stayed at The Roosevelt Hotel fall AP it was oh it was very cheap you know right there on 42nd Street yeah um so they were paying double the room rate but this wasn't this isn't just in in in uh the United States this has been happen all over the world this
is gigantic scam four federal employees were fired Tuesday over payments to reimburse New York City for hotel costs for migrants Department of Homeland Security officials said the workers were accused of circumventing leadership to make the transactions which have been standard for years through a program that helps with cost to care for a surge in migration however officials did not give details on how the four had violated any policies uh but they they put a freeze on the payments said luxury hotels is kind of funny yeah in quotes um did they definitely do it so for so so I I wasn't Anderson coer disputing it I don't know he was saying yesterday yeah he was talking to cunu and he called him a dick don't be a dick go to Chicago all the hotels on on the Miracle Mile are all um all migrant hotels because it was super good money I mean crazy but that's everywhere in the world that's the same in Europe a big hotel change like you can't get a hotel room because they've got migrants for double the price well this is also something that the Biden Administration lied about because they said the FEMA funds were not being used for this but they were I'm with President Trump that it's better you know when um when Helen happened what happened there was really beautiful because every everything fell down um even the own you know um North Carolina's uh um their uh their own state government no one really was doing anything and it was funny enough for the first time I've ever seen ham operators actually be successful um but you know the helicopter guys were all going out there everybody was pitching in people were driving from all different states to come in and help people I mean I I don't have a helicopter anymore but I literally called up the Airfield I said fill them up here's my credit card fill that one fill just fill them up fill up until you know until this limit that I have fill up the fill up these I know what it costs you burn a lot of money in a helicopter this was this is how America works it really works well when we help each other out in all kinds of circumstances and we've become so reliant on the government so Reliant that you know Uncle Sam is going to come in and save us and it turns out they're not really efficient at it they're not
really good at it a lot of money gets stuck and flows to other places we've got to come back to loving our neighbor and and knowing your neighbor how many people don't even know their neighbor anymore this is critical this is and I think you have this you know when when Clinton was President everything changed in America all of a sudden oh that's not sexual relations oh you can do that to me baby that's not actually sex you know all these kinds of things that sets a tone it sets a cultural tone and Trump is setting a cultural tone of let's get this done let's let's stop getting ripped off by other people by ourselves and let's be successful together and it's a short amount of time so I hope that but isn't it interesting that half the country doesn't see it that way the country sees it as a constitutional crisis well that's just that's just a term it's not a that's what's being top FEMA official is fired over payments New York City migrant shelters Trump Administration fired the Federal Emergency Management agency's Chief Financial Officer and three others after Elon Musk misleadingly claimed the agency had used disaster relief funds for migrant Services wait a minute is this New York Times this is just going to be back and forth back and forth forever misleading what is misleading about it let's see here YK City officials raced to clarify that the federal money had been properly allocated by FEMA under President Biden last year adding that it was not a disaster relief Grant and had not been spent on luxury hotels nonetheless just 2 hours after Mr musk post FEMA's acting director Cameron Hamilton announced the payments in question have all been suspended even though most of the money had already been dispersed and that Personnel will be held accountable but is this a recent payment and did they put a freeze on payments even if the payment had been properly allocated by Biden what I was reading is they just pulled the money out of uh bank accounts who did says Trump Administration Trump revokes $80 million from New York City after threat I'm seing this on multiple websites but I don't know can you go the title there on Daily News oh hold on second he just had it there that's right here too oh uh Trump revokes $80 million from New York City after threat to
clawback FEMA cash used to care for migrants but it's still it's still money to care for migrants and they still put a freeze on that money to care for migrants that's your constitutional crisis yeah we're in a constitutional crisis because of what's happened to our country but that's that seems like gaslighting to justify spending 8 million to pay for migrants which they shouldn't have done no but it's not just that it's fly these people there fly them into the country let them into the country and then pay for them with EBT cards with with a lot of that was the economics um I have a friend former New York banker and he said we always win as long as our population is growing we will beat China long term because their population is declining and he says that's why the borders are open is because we need you need it's just like economics you need more people and with more people your economy grows one way or the other I think it's a multifaceted argument because I think that's I'm just telling you what the what the bankers say I think there's some truth to that but I think also they were trying to buy votes that yeah I mean all of that's a part of it me well you saw the thing in New York where they were trying to let people who are illegals vote in Regional ele yeah well that's your constitutional crisis right that is a constitutional crisis here's the thing that I hope and I'm working to make this happen so we have great podcasts you know your your podcast there's we can't not everybody can be a Joe Rogan and we can't just all be looking at national news what has happened at a local level is radio stations you know they all got bought up they're all you know Consolidated no one has local programming anymore um there's almost no local newspapers even local television stations they're all going away now is the time to create a podcast for your town your Burg your city your community wasn't Gavin Newsome doing that like right after the election didn't he start a podcast well I don't know about Gavin Nome that's not I think he did I think that was their idea to try to combat the podcast like this we don't need that we need local voices you know um all the advertising locally has been slurped up by by Facebook you know that's where you advertise I've started I've started a local local thing in
Fredericksburg and people really love it they oh wait a minute there's something going on in Fredericksburg and all they have is Fredericksburg Rant and Raves on a Facebook page will you imagine what a mess that thing is that's crazy that's no good Ranson right now that's no good and so I'm actually I started a thing called godcaster FM and uh it's it's tailored towards helping radio stations do this this but I think churches are content factories and they're not just all talking about Jesus and God they're doing stuff in the community that's what that's what churches used to do you know and they're doing stuff at the high schools and you got kids in there and I want a thousand podcasts you know within a year all over America of local people and it's so easy to do now it's become so possible and I think the local communities will even sponsor it that's the next level that's my phase to that's the next level we have to get to is where people just get a microphone talk to your city council person you know it's this is nuts all all it is is national news presented by heads on television and who needs that nonsense right you know and you're an you're an exception and you're really important but we need to have this at a local level and it's never been a better that you want to start a podcast and be able to actually make a living out of it in your local community I guarantee people will support it I guarantee people will want to be a part of it and I hope that that happens that's that's what I'm dedicating myself to now that's awesome getting these local hyper local podcasts that's a great ideaal yeah I think what you're saying is all of it's hopeful right I'm very hopeful Joe of of course which is great I mean because being cynical kind of sucks you know especially when this really is a very unique time of possibility there's a lot a lot of things are happening right now yeah it's a perfect time and it also feels like even to the people that didn't want what Donald Trump is doing the idea to keep going with what was happening before where you had someone running for president that never went through the primary constitutional crisis that's real the soft coup against Biden all that it that should disturb you that that didn't well it should be good that
that didn't work because that's not good for anybody because if they can keep doing it that way then you never have a primary again well primaries of course are up to the party it's not necessarily a constitutional thing but that should tell the Democrat people who who vote Democrat and are part of I've never been a part of a party I'm not that interested I vote for people um but that should tell them something like there's something bad going on here you yeah there's some Shenanigans going on they could have had a primary like what was it like in DC when you went for the inauguration was it just like show business for ugly people there were a million people all over the place just million people all over the place it was pack it was nuts it was weird you know I did a lot yeah very weird cuz you're going to I went to a lot of these things I went to a few things like these dinners stuff balls and it's a lot of people that donated a lot of money and so it's very transactional and everybody's hyper aggressive to get photographs and talk to people and they they interject themselves into conversations interrupt stand right in front of people that you're talking to and want pictures or want to introduce themselves and it's it's very entitled and very transactional and but I think that's always been the nature of politics particularly when people the reason why they were there is cuz they donated a substantial amount of money million bucks of poppy to go which is nuts like how much how do this many people have a million dollars to donate this is crazy amazing isn't it amazing a lot of people got a million bucks it's like it's all that USA ID money I don't know what it is but it's well there are a lot of successful people in the world who have that who can access that kind of cash but wow but there was a lot of hope it was a very positive obviously cuz the winners were all there but it was it was a very optimistic Vibe which felt good and even the speech when he gave his inauguration speech I mean that was pretty [ __ ] wild I love the I love the black Pastor from Detroit yeah he was channeling MLK he was just like going crazy it was a when you were sitting maybe like five rows behind Hillary Clinton did you smell sulfur I smelled everything I saw Bill made eye
contact with Bill me and Bill staring at each other for a while he's he's larger than life even though he's kind of frail I me he still ising they're in the room with you you know it's like they're it's a different kind of a celebrity like I remember when I went to see the Rolling Stones at Kota I was blown away I'm like mck ja is right there like that's actually him and he's dancing Buton your lip and he's this big his butt's that that boy he's a stick but it's he's right you know he has two trailers that he brings with him that are just a gym oh it doesn't surprise me two of his works out every day what is he like 7 he's a thousand years old and he had a open heart surgery and all like recently had heart surgery that amazing guy really truly is just [ __ ] loves it man and they put on a [ __ ] hell of a show but my point is like that's one of those things you're like I can't believe that's really him and that's what it's like when you're like looking over there you're like holy [ __ ] that's George W bush do you think it was the real Biden or the daddy longlegs Biden I think it was the real one okay I think cuz you've seen the daddy longlegs guy right tall yeah that one guy was nuts and he's jogging to the helicopter I'm like nut yeah nuts like I want to know the story about that like is that is there any paperwork on who that guy actually was that was not Joe Biden that's a guy with a mask on the mask things are real I can tell you I can tell you this from family from family experience you can see them online oh from family experience yes yeah uh in 1967 um let's just leave the family members out of it but someone brought home a colleague from work and the colleague had dinner and had coffee and then uh uh at dessert the wife was sitting there had been talking to this person and then this colleague took off his mask and it was someone who the wife knew extremely well and had no idea 1967 wow so imagine what they can do now the stuff that that CIA light lady shows on the YouTube video yeah that's I think that's just old I mean it's amazing 67 that stuff already existed and worked how come they couldn't get somebody Biden's height you know that's Tina says that too I said you know that they just didn't care at that point just like they
needed someone who had his Cadence which I think is harder to do to to be kind of you know like that stumbling bumbling also like how many people do you bring this to like you know and what is that guy doing now he needs a podcast's he's got no the bottom of the ocean what gig does he have now took that guy fishing I hope not but it's it's possible yeah so there's there's a lot of that going on I mean we've spotted throughout the years Hillary Clinton had I know she had a Double U it was actually women who noticed it like she's carrying her handbag on the other shoulder it's like no woman switches that up that never happens and you look at her like yeah she does look a little different but it's also isn't that a mind [ __ ] though CU then you start looking at everybody like that's not the real one are you Joe Rogan yeah who's what happened who is it it's it's pretty crazy stuff I hope I hope some of that comes out too you know it would be great to know these things it would it would be great to stop lying yeah you should stop lying basic you should not have a fake I mean is there some sort of National Security explanation that you could give for why you would have to have a fake president well I mean holy moly have you ever seen the Kevin Klein movie uh yeah I mean there it is there's your was it no not like the dog Dave uh Dave Dave Dave yeah exactly yeah I mean sure I mean this this happens all the time these things bizarre yeah who knows you know but again season of reveal we're learning things we won't learn everything but we will become a lot wiser I'm I'm convinced of it and I'm excited I am 60 years old and super excited and very bullish on the future uh particularly of the United States and I'm seeing the influence we're having in Europe I'm seeing it people like we don't want this it's tougher for them like the UK they don't really have a First Amendment like we do so like you hurt someone's feelings on Facebook you're going to jail I mean so they they got a lot of work to do um but you know I think Germany has a shot you know I think uh the Netherlands has heared Builders uh France they really pushing back hard on on Le Pen and and right-wing people Victor Orban and Hungary I mean there's there's a there's
at a certain point the people will just not take it anymore and it could get ugly over there but they people are people I mean we've had revolutions ourselves we've been pretty good at it yeah you know of course we got guns you know that was a smart move Founders smart move first and second amendment we're both the Second Amendment is there to protect the first as far as I'm concerned you know and I I am I'm bullish I really am I'm excited Joe I am too oh good all right good well thank you brother it's always great to sit with you Joe thanks for starting this whole thing no brother thank you so much for what you do brother thank you Jamie appreciate you guys so much um tell everybody where they can watch No Agenda noagenda show.net uh you you can't watch it it's only a podcast it's on only listen yeah only listen we're too ugly we don't want we don't we don't want you to look at us and get it and get it on the modern podcast app at podcast apps.com that's uh so you won't you we won't disappear overnight from Apple or some other platform that's what you want thank you brother much brother bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]