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I gotta make sure my shit's off I don't want to be that guy The Joe Rogan Experience Podcast is brought to you by the Fleshlight but you already know this I've said this a thousand times I've been using my Fleshlight actually for real for last like week or so a lot yeah I got some nice by yourself or no no yeah with by myself but I got that massage that icy massage stuff for your back that makes it hot yeah that makes you it feels like no it makes it cool like like tingly anybody using that what like a Lube yeah that's the stuff like that's like tiger bomb or something is that what you mean yeah it's the one that you just buy it like the grocery store is it Lube no no it's it's like massage oil for but the cold one on my dick and it doesn't seem like you should do that I've had I've used the hot one before while having sex and it destroyed the girls vagina and it was the worst night ever but the cool one you can get away with what happened what happened you uh I I always thought for some reason like massage oil and oil and all that you could just put in the vagina you know like I it just never really occurred to me that you say the vagina like it's a cabinet like vagina is just some [ __ ] you area you could put things yeah that's like human tissue that absorbs like toxins and chemicals I know I know that now because she screamed she screamed and it rued her whole night it got inflamed she was just God it went from like hot sexy time to [ __ ] [ __ ] ass time but ouch but the cold one you can kind of get away away with like I've used the cold one on a girl before and I you know I just didn't tell her what why would you do that cuz I didn't know this was back when I didn't know and I thought it was just lotion and I used it and she never said anything bad it was the hot one that got me in trouble but when you used it like what was the purpose of what were you doing for lube for she wasn't enjoying this like in the ass and everything oh hey I think that's even worse dude I think probably your [ __ ] is a little more adorable than inside your [ __ ] when well also used to always go ass to [ __ ] [ __ ] to ass never thought about it what did you do that for cuz I never thought you know anything about poop now that I've dated some porn stars they know everything
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should make Des Squad uh flashlights they would I'm sure if guys oh you're disgusting you mean like we should pose no like we just mold our butth holes yeah but that's what I'm saying you have to pose for that they have to they have to model your [ __ ] wow would you be down with that if we got a percentage of the Fleshlight those those girls make good money they do they make great money so you're more than willing to let a rubber version of your [ __ ] be distributed all over the world why not yours cuz you're silly that's why cuz what if some dude just gets really into the idea of [ __ ] you in the ass cuz he's been practicing on your Fleshlight and he dresses up like you and he he's got your [ __ ] t-shirt on right now and if he had your little butthole flashlight that would like come so close to completing the deal that's all he needs No all he needs is roof and all and some duct tape and he's going to [ __ ] you on video yeah I don't think you should be like like sending people the wrong message and the wrong message clearly is you can [ __ ] my fake ass Olive Garden butthole exactly anyway go toj rogan.net click on the link for the Fleshlight enter in the code name Rogan and save yourself 15% off and don't do any of things that Brian said to do thanks to honor.com o nnit t makers of alpab brain shro Tech sport shroom Tech immune and new mood what are these things easiest to describe it is just to go to on it.com o nnit t they're all neutop and what neutop are is vitamins that enhance your cognitive function they enhance your your brain's ability to produce neurotransmitters it gives you all the building blocks for thought it's nutrients for your mind very controversial subject if you interested in it all I I endorse it 100% wholeheartedly believe in it I know it works I use them and I've used them before I was ever involved with on it I used them when I used the bill Roman ASI stuff who I'm going back and forth with his publicist so he's going to he wants to be on the on the on the podcast so he's going to come on he's going to talk to us about his stuff which is called neuro one which is how I got introduced to the uh to the world of neut Tropics it's a very interesting stuff and Roman Ali's got a very interesting story he was uh he had a multiple concussions
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opponent so it was hard to watch one guy one guy lose and one guy win it always is but it's nice to see Dan Hardy successful again I love a story like that man I love when a guy takes like like this Jamie Varner kid that fought this weekend did you see that yeah he uh went to some small shows lost all his motivation um started getting beat by guys that should never beat him right and then all of a sudden uh he just for whatever reason we'll have to figure it out when we talk to him decided to get his [ __ ] together again and just train like a [ __ ] madman they give him another shot in the UFC and he just goes and knocks out Edson Barbosa who's like one of the top 10 killers at 155 pounds in the world the last time Barbosa was in the ring was in Brazil where he [ __ ] wheel kicked Terry Edam in the head and knocked him unconscious I mean he's a dangerous dangerous dude and Jamie Varner [ __ ] him up man it was crazy I love a story like that I love a I love a dude who just gets it together you know it's like one of my favorite things in life I love a guy who can keep it together but man I love a dude who loses it and gets it back you know that's fascinating to me yeah I'm trying to think of a boxer that lost it and got it back not very many because the the Cinderella story is that you know they had that boxing film recently uh about the old guy oh that's pretty good the old time guy like who had to he had to fix his arm but you know picking up the crates who's that which guy was that ah [ __ ] now how long ago was this movie like 10 in the last 10 years it's oh yeah yeah yeah bradock James bradock yeah got a ship together I didn't see that no I saw like a clip of it and it looks so hokey Hollywood I was like get the [ __ ] out of here it was h i I hate when a guy who's that good like Russell Crow gets stuck in a movie like that like you're you're using like one of the best actors ever and you got him in this goofy ass movie this [ __ ] fake ass boxing movie when guys throw fake ass looking punches you know there's not a whole lot of guys have ever pulled off like a real good fight scene in a movie right it's hard it's hard to fake that [ __ ] that's the the beauty of watching it in real life it's like so crazy if you've never seen it
before folks you owe it to yourself for once in your life if you're a UFC fan to to get tickets and go to see a live event if it comes anywhere near you cuz it's [ __ ] crazy that's awesome when you're right there too I mean I've I've been like inches away from some of the craziest moments in in combat history Combat Sports history and the best seats believe it or not are not floor it's about halfway up where you're almost just a little bit over the top of the the you're right you're right the best seats are not the most expensive ones the uh above angles are great angle especially like that first Riser I think that's what it's called the first Riser so uh what happened you just kept going you just kept going all through Friday all through Saturday all through Sunday yeah I came straight here damn dude any sleep um in the limos you know we we would pass out and then sort of keep going but yeah a little bit of sleep enough I'm old now so I can't you're a [ __ ] Savage you're staring out there going wheels off man you still go wheels off the tracks into the woods you still do it huh yeah it's fun isn't it yeah the the I I wish that alcohol didn't have such a penalty such a steep penalty on your body I love getting drunk you know I mean I'm I'm really responsible about it I uh I try not to do it you know to the point of excess or I don't ever drive but I do like getting [ __ ] up that's why I like like getting doing shots like in Vegas after a show it's like let's just get [ __ ] up you know or when last time Eddie and Tom sigur and I got [ __ ] up in Australia like we're in Australia I got no responsibility here let's get [ __ ] bled right you know but damn the price is just ruthless on your body I'm pretty drunk still was kind of drunk driving driving here what for real yeah cuz I I I like woke up and went straight here so I feel like I I felt like I was still pretty [ __ ] up from last night you really think that you could have got pulled over and arrested probably not I probably would be fine but it felt like I was Buzz still from last night damn dude you're going wheels off too both of you [ __ ] put me to shame I'm not putting you to shame on anything D you just I don't know what I'm allowed to say on the air or you could say anything about whiskey don't
say too much don't get crazy what are you going to say I was going to say you gave me something Jack Dan the walls have ears sir Jack Daniel's Honey is my new thing doing shots of that is my new thing it's delicious for poison as far as poison goes it's the best to what's your what's your poison man well I love whiskey but you know I like shitty Irish whiskey like Bush Mills and really that's that's the kind of stuff you like Yeah the more more expensive Scotch is it more tastes like Scots Scots socks I like to just drink a shitty whiskey really that's interesting is that is that common I don't know because I thought like the smooth stuff was the stuff that was like really old and super expensive like single SM that's really Smoky stuff the I like Pete which is Irish whiskey tastes like Pete they boil it over Pete ball there was a the only time I've ever had really good whiskey is there was a guy named Josh leeb he was one of the writers on news radio right uh very funny guy very nice guy and uh he was uh just real interesting character and he was into like really old whiskey and and I was like how much does that cost and he was like it was like something saying like $100 a glass or something like that like what really I'm like what the [ __ ] does it taste like and he let me try some of it CU he was like wow that is a kind of a strange thing to have created so very very distinct sort of taste but I wouldn't say it's good right yeah no none of it's good no just Cheap whiskey is good the feeling of it is good yeah so uh where you coming back from man what's the the latest World travels well we've been shooting a lot so we shot um January and February in Afghanistan whoa which was seriously heavy because we did a story on child suicide bombers and so we got incred incredible access to kids who actually were caught uh before they could ignite their vs and then we met the senior Taliban guy in in Kabul who is supposedly supposed to be in Pakistan but we actually interviewed him in Kabul and everyone's freaking out about that because they didn't know he was in kabo so you you sat down with this guy yeah yeah whoa what was that like he's you know they don't have a good outfit for sort of looking benevolent like they look like he looked
like the devil he looked really bad and evil and uh I asked him about uh child suicide bombing because they're using younger and younger kids now because they get past the checkpoints and uh he said yeah you know he they actually admitted on air that they were using children as suicide as as Transportation devices for Dynamite wow you mean that's that's the the best way to describe it Transportation devices for Dynamite they they've essentially said you know not only we're willing to kill our own we'll we'll kill innocent we we'll kill children to further our agenda that's scary [ __ ] that's [ __ ] scary [ __ ] man what was it like talking to that guy um well was you know so he had he's he was arrested for kidnapping um westerners and un people um and he had been prisoned and somehow gotten out in Pakistan so the pakistanis let him out and then he had snuck back into kabo so you're meeting a guy who's been arrested many times for kidnapping westerners for political means so that's weird two is you go out and he's surrounded by his Talib soldiers so he's got like you know 20 or 30 guys in the courtyard all sort of you know checking you out and then if you say anything wrong or do anything wrong then you know they'll just they'll just take you away they don't give a [ __ ] right so it was a bit nerve-wracking and he was he's a seriously bad dude I mean he was a commander in the madine and then he became Taliban and then was one of the senior commanders when they were in control of of all of Afghanistan and then had to flee to Pakistan and now's back do they know who let him out and why well the Pakistani um government has been sponsoring Taliban almost Inception isn't that incredible that like they can get people into jail over there and then they can just sort of let them out really bad guys that people have tried so hard to capture MH I just they're they're resisting this whole idea well it's also 100% corrupt I mean you can buy your way out of jail in Pakistan buy your way out of jail in Afghanistan but if you're on the right side of the isi in Pakistan which the Taliban are then you can do whatever you want well the isi were the ones
protecting bin Laden so what is how does something like this I mean whatever you can say about it how does something like this get arranged well in Afghanistan we're lucky because there's a guy named sad maeni who runs uh to news which is the sort of main news you know Pro Western say news in in Afghanistan and so he um you know had a lot of he he can get you sort of see anybody in Afghanistan and so he got us in to talk to the suicide bombers the kids and he got us into to talk to the secret police about that and he got us into to talk to um the Taliban wow so you set up this meeting with this guy how long is the entire meeting maybe an hour so how long have you in his in his presence the whole time you're in his presence just an hour an hour just straight in start get out how how do you get out of that kind of conversation that seems like a conversation that should take a hundred years uh do you have to tiptoe when you discuss things do you are you biting your tongue are you well I had to ask him a lot of unpleasant questions yeah that's what I'm saying like how how did you do that well you know for example I'd say um you know you were a muhaj jadine general you know what it's like to lead troops you know these you know people trained to fight how do you feel about sending you know six-year-olds you know to to be Transportation devices for bombs and uh so you couch it in such a way that like you're a general and because generally a lot of the Taliban fighters themselves you know don't don't condone the suicide bombing but he did he said well he wouldn't answer it he said there's a p June saying there's a tiger above me and a river below me I.E like I'm screwed if I do and screwed if I don't so he wouldn't he wouldn't talk to us about it wow yeah how how often are they having suicide bombs go off over there about 200 times a year so nearly every day there's a suicide bomb and they're getting more and more effective and uh it's they just had the the the first civilian suicide bomb so you know not not military targets and it was a complete design they actually did a they had seven suicide bombers not a lot of people maybe know this in America but there was a empty building across the
way from the American Embassy and they had these seven suicide attackers actually dressed in burkas with their weapons under the burkas take over the building and they held the American Embassy hostage with like a full-on firefight in the middle of cabul for over 24 hours before they could kill these seven dudes it was crazy we have footage of it all and it's totally [ __ ] insane holy [ __ ] yeah but the the what the Taliban guy says and which is pretty interesting is that they use suicide attackers and suicide bombers because that's what's going to get America out and you go well you know [ __ ] you but in reality that's true because what happened is America went in to get Al-Qaeda and the Taliban out of Afghanistan and now our government is negotiating with the Taliban to see exactly how much power they'll have when we leave so you're like okay well Jesus Christ what a cluster [ __ ] yeah this none of this is being reported in the mainstream news it's not being certainly not being talked about like that you see carai sits down with Obama and they all seem to be uh playing nice nice with each other yeah and this is all what's going on behind the scenes just I it's been reported it's been constant suicide bombing it's it's been reported that they've started to negotiate with the Taliban and I was surprised that there hasn't been sort of more outrage because people I guess are so sick of the war they're just like well fine you know they're negotiating with them but so who is negotiating the United States is yeah well and and the uh NATO yeah and what are they they're negoti in power when the Americans leave how much power they'll have how they're going to share power etc etc wow yeah um isn't that the the whole purpose of this is try to stop those guys yes and then they're negotiating with them about how much power they get yes so what does that mean that means we lost the war are Americans ever going to say we lost a war we like we're like that dude you could beat our dick into the dirt for 100 Years and we're like that wasn't even a war it was a conflict it was a police action yeah we will never admit that we we don't even admit we lost Vietnam you
know we pulled out of Vietnam it's like whatever we got tired of kicking your ass yeah it's this is a weird country man yeah no Afghan they for sure 100% lost Afghanistan I mean what did you do you went in to try to get the Taliban out now you're negotiating to give them power back 10 years all that money all those lives lost and for what what's the end result because actually when you're there you realize oh the minute the Americans leave there'll be a civil war so it's going to be back in the in the an exact situation of a civil war with a with a a massive Taliban presence in Afghanistan so 12 years down the drain my God what a mess how horrible must it feel to the families of people who lost children over there exactly and then you just realize this whole thing was a cluster [ __ ] the thing that gets me is just how does anybody look at Vietnam and not learn how do we not learn it's like this is the same [ __ ] it's the exact same [ __ ] we get manipulated into these wars by by special interests and this is exactly what it is folks and you've been tricked into thinking that this was some [ __ ] some justice Mission you know exactly it's Madness yeah what do you think they're over there for what's the what's the number one re Source they're trying to grab over there who the United States well I think they got into a war I shouldn't say the United States what I should say is the corporations that are trying to well I I think I think that uh profit from this I look I think they had to go in because they couldn't just go into Iraq Iraq was about oil um they couldn't just go into Iraq they had to say well we have to go get the guys who did this from 911 and then they went in but they could have gone in with a surgical team got the guys and got out I mean they you don't have to take over the whole country right why do you think that they they had to say we're going to go into Iraq as excuse me Afghanistan as well like why well because Iraq was a complete construct they made it all up that's 100% they're like they're trying to tie Iraq with 911 you're like well this had nothing to do with it Iraq 100% to do with with oil with oil well they had they manufactured why we went there they the 911 was like yes they already had plans to go in there before but 911 said yes you know we're going to go in
there after Al-Qaeda but they knew that they had to actually go to the place where it was they had to do the true thing so that they could get what they wanted which was AQ oh so you feel like Afghanistan was almost like a secondary operation 100% yeah whoa and then it became the primary operation because it was such a clustr fo well what about all the resources that they keep finding over there like they just found trillions of dollars in minerals do you think that that plays a part in the idea to occupy it as well maybe I mean I think that now what what's happening is Chinese companies are coming in as they do because they're sort of um not blamef free but they're sort of like oh we haven't been conflicted by this conflict so they much like they've done in Africa you know wherever America sort of you know piss people off or done bad things and China just comes in and says oh we'll trade with you you know that's got to be a trip man well because America goes and sees things and you know for for better for worse they let's try to fix it then there's problems and then put sanctions on people and China just says I don't give a [ __ ] what you do wow you can do whatever you want to do just give me your tridium or whatever it is wow China just rocks A Game of Thrones style yeah they go old school Empire ways we don't impose any we got our own [ __ ] problems we got a billion people living on one patch of dirt exactly wow yeah they're always going to beat uh Americans with that attitude you know as far as like business goes and getting into creepy places right they'll just sneak right in so they're Afghanistan you think trying to get these minerals yeah well for sure the Chinese companies are in there I mean there's a lot of companies in there but the problem is going to be stability because the minute Americans pull out it's going to be full on Civil War so you can't really go and get mins when people are shooting rockets at you now knowing what a cluster [ __ ] it is knowing how crazy it is was it like being over there you as a person as an an outsider a Canadian in fact out there watching this [ __ ] chaos and filming it what what was that like for you you know I I got on the plane to come home and I was on my iPod I need a [ __ ] drink now I was on my
iPod or the iPad and you know there was a plane you know was like soaring through the air and you can see space and all this stuff and because when you're in Afghanistan it sort of feels like 5,000 years ago because everything's sort of you know these sort of mud huts and it's sunbaked and ites it looks like it hasn't a lot of it looks like it hasn't changed uh in 5,000 years so you you're really sort of wow this is modernity you know this is the Modern Age this is the 21st century because we have all these crazy things that you can sort of tweet from Afghanistan or whatever technology but then these at the same time you have this sort of devolution you know where we're sending kids to to to blow our [ __ ] up you know because it it's effective you know and so I was there's been a lot of what I've seen this past year this past year of shooting which is it it feels like half of humanity is just going completely backwards you know now seeing that and then flying back into New York City what what what the [ __ ] does that contrasts feel like you take these mad trips and then when you come home and you see like what's possible at the Apex of civilization right now as far as like you know cities and and a place where you can go safely and a place that doesn't have you know guns and bombs bombs blowing up constantly I mean no wonder why they that's where the terrorist attacks occurred no wonder why that's where the September 11th attacks occurred right for sure I mean it it was you know incredibly successful you know when you fly in you still see that the Twin Towers aren't there actually we start our peace with that because we say actually the most successful suicide bombing of all time was 911 suicide attack because it started the Iran Iraq war it started after fistan um you know both of which are still going on and you know completely polarized the world and it actually suicide attacks were and and when we did the research it was a few months ago and I've had a few alss so don't you know quote me on the exact percentages but the percentages are insane it was like suicide attacks were 3 to 5% of all terrorism before 911 and now they're like 97% of all Jesus Christ yeah because it's so
successful what what is it like as a sane rational person traveling around to the most [ __ ] up places on Earth and seeing Humanity at its worst what what the [ __ ] does that feel like that's a hard question but you're such a nice guy you're such a jovial guy every time I see you you're smiling and hugging people you seem like such a a warm and friendly person for you to get thrust constantly into these horrific situations where you get to see people just handed the shittiest [ __ ] hand of cards in the history of life like here you are 2012 the internet's here the [ __ ] you know the age of information is here but you're involved in some sort of crazy religious war and people are blowing themselves up when they're six yeah you're in the worst spot yeah well I mean you the reason why I'm happy is because you're thankful for what you have when you see what uh you know everybody else doesn't have were you happy before you did all this yeah I'm a pretty happy guy yeah so it just enhanced your happiness to see how fortunate you are and your your circumstances yeah [ __ ] man that's a that's a a serious trip to be spending uh a large percentage of your time on this Earth yeah seeing the the terrible spots most people like trying to fly into Hawaii for the weekend and chill and you're you know what I mean you're spending your your your job is to go to some of the scariest parts on Earth yeah um yeah it doesn't seem that freaky at the time cuz you just you want to get the story and like yes we got into you know Somalia we're going you know we're going to hang out with the Pirates you're like yes we've been working on that for a while did you guys go to the Somali and hang out with the Pirates yeah oh my God and then you but then you get in there you get in there and you're like you're nervous and you know [ __ ] you didn't think they would kidnap you well we paid them to kidnap us cuz it's a you pay the kidnapping fee how much is the kidnapping fee 15 grand so you pay them what they would charge for a kidnapping but not to kidnap you wow yeah which is fine I mean it's like just saying well you know you 15 grand seems pretty reasonable if that's all it is yeah but isn't it more for other people if they catch like some billion
not people we did a bunch of shooting we shot a lot in Kenya with uh with the sort of you know refugees and you we we shot around puntland and now we're shooting Mishu to round it up but uh it depends on the on the on the but anyway so when you're there all you're thinking about is you know we got to get the shot or we got to get this we got to get that and it's only when you come back and you're sort of having dinner somewhere and they're like where were you oh I was with the Pirates in Mogadishu Jesus Christ but you don't really think about it so much at the time when a lot of people are horrified about the Somali pirates and they're like this is a terrible situation but what they don't understand is that those people really got [ __ ] into that situation where they they had almost no choice the Somali pirates started out when the these Somalia soldiers would uh go after people who were dumping uh toxic waste off their Shores yeah it was killing all their fish and poisoning their people and these are they're a fisherman's culture I mean could you imagine you're a culture of fishermen and you know they don't have a a history of going after people and kidnapping people they're just trying to [ __ ] make a living and all of a sudden some [ __ ] are you know driving around their boats floating around a couple miles out just dumping horrible [ __ ] into their ocean and it's [ __ ] up the whole ocean and they get to see it right before their eyes they're the the mother earth becoming you know poisoned and the fish poisoning and people getting poisoned and sick so they started kidnapping them they started kidnapping those people and demanding Ransom from these companies that had poison their water and then they started saying you know what [ __ ] it let's just kidnap anybody who drives by that's what we do now and that's what it became those [ __ ] corporations that were dumping their [ __ ] off the Somalia Coast they made monsters yeah you know those people should be [ __ ] held responsible for a cleanup just as much as they should be responsible for a toxic cleanup they should be responsible for a cultural cleanup you know if they can actually find out who dumped all that [ __ ] and all the different corporations involved it's probably a whole lot of them they
could probably get a fuckload of money out of it if the world had any sort of a real Court you know well the problem is is a lot of it was uh radioactive waste so it irradiated the sea and irradiated the beaches and before that the uh CH Chinese Japanese Portuguese and Spanish fishing companies completely overfished it and then radiated it so they were totally [ __ ] there's actually a great movie called uh fishing without Nets which is um about that about like they were all fishermen and now there's no fish so they just take the same boat out and then they then they go wow we're we're working on a story there right now about um the American government is financing sort of islamist extremists you know to fight al-shabab uh uh who are you know the bad boys over there and uh and so we're we're trying to figure out if that's true so the stories that American government is fund funding Muslim extremists who are going to fight these bad guys in exactly the same as what happened in Afghanistan where against the Soviet and they became the Taliban yeah Jesus Christ we just don't ever learn how but how does one fix this mess that we're in how does how does one put the world on it's back you know straight on its axle or on its axis or does that ever happen does this just the way people roll we just [ __ ] constantly involved in in chaos and love at the same time are we well every every you know a lot of people meddl in other people's stuff and then we have to go in we have to save them and you're like you know we have to save them from who themselves you know like oh you know Sadam was such a bad guy as opposed to who you as opposed to like Charles Taylor like right you know so there's a lot of geopolitics and you know sort of geopolitical you know gamesmanship has been you know the result the the cause of a lot of these problems but now it's 99% always economics it's all if you look at you know we have resource-based wealth you know there's there one in one in every three countries with resource based wealth has a civil war every four years whereas you know the remaining countries you know don't have any civil Wars or haven't had a civil war for 100 years the the the the percentages are insane so now like Afghanistan you were just
saying but a lot of the African countries now they're like oh you know rare earth metals that didn't used to be worth money are now in you know every cell phone so that you know the the the war in the Congo is now the 10th bloodiest war in history and it's all because of colan which is needed to make iPads and iPhones it's so ironic that at the height of Technology the iPad 3 fr facing camera HD screen if you follow that all the way down there's an African boy that's picking out this mineral out of out of a hole in the earth it's really that's that spectrum is quite fascinating I mean it's almost from I mean that Spectrum goes back to just the invention of tools and you know figuring out iron and [ __ ] and pull pulling stuff out of the Earth all the way to the height of Technology we're weird man we are [ __ ] strange human beings are so bizarre how much do you look at life I mean you your experiences are far more extreme than mine and most people on this planet I think how how do you do you look at this sometimes like it's a big work of fiction do you look at life sometimes like this is just [ __ ] so nutty it doesn't seem like it could be real I mean if anybody has seen the nuttiest you might have you might have witnessed some of the nuttiest [ __ ] on Earth and come back to talk about it I mean you've you've got in one life think of all the [ __ ] places you've been H does it feel real well we always said they say about Vice and what's the what's the political sort of stance of viice we say we don't have one it's the modern condition is absurd there's the you know the absurdity of [ __ ] this mother it's crazy like it's [ __ ] nuts and then when you go out and see exactly how nuts it is it keeps getting crazier and crazier and crazier cities get bigger stories are more insane you know we were just shooting in karach which is a completely fail City they have 100 plus kill killings a night you can hire a killer there to kill someone for 10 bucks actually we rode around with one of these Contract Killers and uh it was it's just shocking you around with a contract killer yeah what the [ __ ] is that like well suus Shi my partner did that story because I wouldn't have
lasted long and doing that story in karach um why wouldn't you allow it well Karachi is is run by gangs by like hakani Network who are Taliban related sort of Mafia Gang family and then they have you know various uh beluchistan gangs and then they have you know uh the the herin trafficking gangs and they're all fighting each other continually it's insanely violent and you know and basically you can't if you're Caucasian you can't sort of no there's no tourists there for example there's no reason for you to be there it's just complete Wild West [ __ ] it's so hard for people in Pasadena to believe you know driving around in Pasadena that this coexists on the earth at the same time as you have to picture it's like Escape From New York or something I mean carach is bigger than New York and it's just where what part of the world is it again it's Pakistan but it's on the on the on the ocean and it's it's uh it's it's it's a huge City and it's just complete [ __ ] Anarchy complete [ __ ] chaos who whoa just it's a war it's a war zone how many millions people live in this city 18 to 20 million Jesus Christ but all just going crazy 18 to 20 million people live in Wild West how do we not know about this how do we not know about this that's incredible well people know that kot's bad but like guess not like like you described it you described it like a movie like if stepen Spielberg decided to make a movie about that and told you that that City's going down right now on Earth you'd be like [ __ ] think I'd know about that it is a movie I mean you don't you think that that's something that would be like really really popular if if no one ever talks about that if they made a movie right now about that part of the world describe it the way you describe it like a like some crazy horror movie about civilization gone wrong that's what it is some Mad Max reality that's existing coexisting right now just as big as New York yeah we'd go no way you know what I mean we'd go no way yeah yeah Karachi is complete chaos scary as hell scary as hell you pakistanis are like what no one goes there why would you go there no one goes there but 20 million people live there that is crazy crazy just [ __ ] burning in the streets people pop pop people getting killed oh
my God like running gun battles through the streets so you you couldn't go so you said uh what does your your correspondent look like s she's Pakistani she's Pak it's a girl oh he he's Pakistan he's he also snuck into the gun markets the Taliban gun markets when the Americans said that the war was over and the Taliban were coming across into Northwest Frontier Province and getting a thousand handmade guns they make their own guns by hand thousand like little kids make the guns and a thousand were going over every day and we're like well if the war is over why is this there are a thousand guns going across the border every day and so we broke that story that was serus and he uh he just went back to pakist then his story of Karachi is [ __ ] insane he's got unique access but you know does he have video does he have footage oh yeah yeah when can we he has video uh I think that's going to go up within the next month on you got to let me know the moment that comes up he has video of him with like riding around with this contract killer obviously kill but he's just sort of going from thing to thing with his gun and they wear these mop head helmets and then so you can't see who they are and and uh it's you know that's an insane thing kill people for 10 bucks 10 bu there's there's a there's a increase or maybe it's just an increase of awareness or our awareness but there's an increase in sort of assassination availability and sort of there's been a price decrease or whatever you know because now we go and we see like in Karachi they have Contract Killers everywhere we were shooting a lot recently in um harez and in in northern Mexico and um they uh they have um centenarios that get paid 200 bucks a month and their job is just to kill people like they're just the [ __ ] muscle that's they're assassins you know and um when we were there Warez is actually the most dangerous town in the world for journalists it's the same as so there's El Paso on the Texas side same city and it's one of the safest cities in America and then you go right across the border and it's one of the most dangerous cities in the world but it's the most dangerous city in the
world for journalists number one why is that because it's the drug cartels that run it and they're Smugglers and so they don't want anyone to ever film their [ __ ] so instead of like coming up to you when you have your camera and saying hey why are you carrying that camera what are you shooting they just see a camera and go bang no point in asking a question and they make a lot of if you write about something they make a they cut off your head and they write the story on your flesh with blood and all this stuff and so that you know journalists just don't go there anymore wow that is kind of crazy that we're right next to a third world country involved in like the biggest drug war in the history of the world yeah most Americans are blissfully unaware well we shot uh we shot a big piece on that and um of course he did did you get did did you get embedded well we got embedded with people who are fighting this is a pretty freaky story though I don't know how much of would allow I'm allowed to say oh really but uh drink get him another drink I can say a lot uh but uh but it's a very complex story and and we're going to we're going to cause some waves but uh basically we were down in in in in Mexico um we done some some stuff with the cartels incredibly difficult most difficult stories to get right now today are cartel stories because they just kill everybody um but we started hanging out with the people who were fighting the cartels who are Mormon colonies that's originated in America so that they could keep practicing polygamy went to uh Northern Mexico and they formed polygamist um um Mormon colonies there and because the colonies did well the cartels started targeting them and started kidnapping them and killing them and so the Mormon colonies started arming themselves and fighting against the the cartels so there's been a war between the Mormon colonies and the and the um and and and the Naros and we went down there to live in the colonies and we were hanging out with the learn who I don't know if you've ever heard of but they have a crazy story of they had a one of their Brethren believed that he had the power of blood atonement so he was
killing all uh the people in the church that were trying to you know mess with him so he had about 30 or maybe had 50 Children nearly nearly 50 Children and he had them work as assassins for him in this in this bloody war that they had down there this is all happening not in the 1880s this is happening in the 1980s this is happening in like Blues Brothers 80s oh my God and so they have this crazy War but they arm themselves right because they're all fighting within the family and then because of that when the Naros attacked them they were sort of armed and ready to go and and badasses so they started fighting them but they are actually just one Colony over from the other people that they came down with who are the Romney so Mitt Romney's father was born in one of these uh colonies D Blan and then they they they now this is the question M Romney's father was born in Mexico Mitt Romney's father was born in a polygamous colony in northern Mexico Chihuahua Colonial Colonial dublan and actually he ran for president and they they said uh they they they brought up the fact that he might have been ille illegal immigrant and that uh and that you know he he gave his born than a polygamous colony in Mexico his his presidency uh presidential candidacy didn't last long um we say that in the piece for like but his sons can his son well because no but he's actually we say out of all the candidates Republican candidates Mitt Romney had the staunchest you know uh stand against immigration and and you know it it's you know and he he sort of ignores his roots and he never talks about it and you say well I understand why it's completely logical because you know he he he he wanted to veto the DREAM Act and he said publicly veto the DREAM Act although his father is the poster child for the DREAM Act but you say he you know he he would veto the DREAM Act because he wants to get away from these stories because the stories when you dig into them are [ __ ] insane of course he doesn't want to talk about because polygamy uh battles with drug lords you know and and you know complete kidnapping and Insanity do not a good presidential
candidate make how is this not mainstream how is this is it going to come out during the presidential campaign yeah it's going to come out we we have great footage mint Romney is he the official nominee yet on the Republican side I mean he obviously he he will be he will be but he's not official right yeah he me but yeah for sure it's going to come out I mean the thing is is is you know it I don't it can't knock him out you know people have written a little bit about it not very much about it when you see a guy that's that flawed and has such an obvious story that that's so beyond [ __ ] does it make you feel like this has all been set up does it make you feel like they they put him in there because they knew he couldn't win uh do makes sense to me that that's the best that the Republicans can do I've met a lot of smart Republicans I've met a lot of bad [ __ ] who are just conservative and right-wing and maybe they're a little too bi but you know I've met some pretty strong-minded very articulate Republicans how come they never get there how come we're dealing with these these like second rate hacks these guys who just [ __ ] change their opinion when the wind blows like how does a guy like that get to a position to be running for president cuz that seems like that's a weak example of what a I a leader can be we've seen the JFK we've seen the bill clints we've seen the the people that have the strong voices when you have a guy who's a wishy-washy as Mitt Romney who's comes from a [ __ ] religious cult that was in northern Mexico I mean I'm like really that's the best you can do a multi multi-millionaire whose father was from another country but is against immigration what MH I mean look the the rumor is that they knew that they the econom is going to go keep going down and you know jobs aren't going to get better etc etc so they said okay you know we'll just put up an alsoo ran and you know then we'll get the next two terms after that because the economy is going to be [ __ ] anyway put Jeb Bush on top there you go for 2016 but I mean Mitt Romney you know they it's it's it's funny because they want the anti- Obama you know so they just want to sort of they don't
understand yeah Obama is the first example I've ever seen in my life of it where it's pretty clear it doesn't matter anymore whatever it takes to get into office is mean once once the the politician gets there that's all out the window all all it is about there is keeping everything moving the exact same way it's moving right now making sure these corporations make [ __ ] billions of dollars making sure that the rights of the civilians Get shrunk more and more every day until it gets to This Global scenario that we have where the whole world is controlled by money and money is the government and that's that's it seems to be where we're moving towards an actual government especially this idea of America what it was supposed to be you know a government by the people we we were going to set it up we were going to govern ourselves we're going to have a a very strict set of laws and checks and balances in place to make sure this doesn't get out of hand and become what it used to be doesn't work that way how do we fix this Shane Smith how do we fix this you're the World Travel I think it's going to get worse because actually money does rule everything and I think that it probably always has but you know if you look look at you know communism the synthesis of Communism is that market regulates itself and you have a small thing for infrastructure same thing with capitalism David Ricardo Adam Smith you know the the the free market sort of does need government um but I and I believe that both were apologies for what was happening in the industrial revolution because everyone was looking around saying this is [ __ ] you know there's no there was you know every kids working in Coal Mines all that [ __ ] but the reason why I say it's going to get worse and I'm not actually I'm actually an optimist I'm a sort not a doom and gloom guy but is that money runs everything but the problem is is the money is running out right so you have kids you know in Spain you have uh under 27 years old 50% unemployment so you have all these young kids and there's nothing scarier than a young kid with no future you've just taken away his future they you know 17 18 19y old kid what what the [ __ ] does he have to lose and you've seen the riots in Athens you've seen the riots in London you've seen the
riots in Paris you've seen the riots in I mean terer Square you've seen all over the world even riots in Montreal this year there you go and young people are getting more and more frustrated I should say protests in Montreal they didn't really RI yeah and then the problem is that you know well look they have rights here now they have Occupy Wall Street here if you know and it's it's not going away it's just you know sort of getting more and more subversive and they're you know doing their own uh content networks and everything now now but you know when you have young kids rioting with nothing to lose then you're going to look for radical economic Solutions and radical economic Solutions mean radical political parties radical political parties hate each other and it's this it's the same sort of scenario you have that started World War II incredible depression you know somebody comes up with a what seemingly is sort of fixing the depression oh we're all going to do that no we're going to do the antithesis of that so you have communists versus fascist etc etc and both you know extreme uh sides of the spectrum and then there ends up Waring you know fighting and what's happening now is you know Europe is just [ __ ] and it's getting going to get worse and worse and worse and there's going to be more and more radical politics more and more kids in the streets and that's when I get worried and say hold on a second what are we going to do wait until there's you know militias running down Berlin you know Main Street that fighting other [ __ ] police and whatever Civil War uh until we step in and say hey can can we not fix this because it's just getting [ __ ] worse and worse and worse and sure you see bad [ __ ] in Afghanistan you see bad [ __ ] in in South America we just saw it in Caracus where it's insane higher murder rate that America you know with 20 million people population blah blah blah blah blah but Europe is about to [ __ ] explode it's about to explode so this all has to do with the adoption of the euro is that what [ __ ] this whole sit situation up the the whole because Europe is all connected all the countries are connected now I think I think it's we've been in a depression because what's the
difference between a recession and depression depression goes on for a you know it's a cyclical e economic downturn it it lasts you know a longer time than recession well because of quantitative easing all these things economic things we sort of kept it up Bay but right now Europe's already backing in recession China slow down India slow down America's very shortly going to slow down behind them it's no there's no way we can and you go okay well it's another 5 years so that means okay well it started in 2008 it's going to be you know eight years nine years before we get out of this so economically we had all these things that we tried to fix and it didn't work so now there's just no money there's no money no jobs in the system so young people are the ones who get forced out the problem is is young people are the first ones who are going to get out and get a stick and start bashing [ __ ] up CU why wouldn't they of course yeah I mean I've said that's the biggest problem with this country is that you know everybody wants to fix everything that's happening everywhere but they don't want to fix what's going on in in the impoverished areas of this country when you're there there was a something that was released today that uh a study or I read today rather a study on a message it was on my message board but I forget where the study was but it said that 72% of uh black people in this country are born to single parents mhm and raised by single parents m that's [ __ ] that's just [ __ ] you know if if we if we want to like start fixing things we got to fix this country too I mean if we we this this this country could fall apart just as easily when you look at Giant patches where kids are growing up without any hope and that's that's the most [ __ ] thing when a child like as you said has no future they feel they have no future and they're angry they feel robbed well it's if you you know you're saying well how do you how does it feel to come back to New York from Afghanistan you know well it reminded me so much of of 911 but it was like the Stark thing whereas what what [ __ ] me up more was when you're in Mexico like five miles from the from the border and [ __ ] is [ __ ] up like some of you were just saying some of the crazy [ __ ] you've seen and generally you know makes you feel better about your
life you feel oh you know I'm happy I have all these you know health things but I went to a uh a church run outside of Warez by a sort of born again Pastor who is an ex junkie and he takes in sort of the the refuse of of of of Warez into this church and it's like a lot of you know people with with severe psychological problems people with severe um uh uh drug addictions and a lot of of uh uh there was two FAL children not children they were adults now but they had grown up FAL like on the streets sort of thing one sort of barked like a dog and but you go and they live in these cells cuz some of them have to be locked in and like there was you know people with open colostomy bags and stuff with flies buzzing around their innards and stuff and these thing and you're walking around and it was like just crazy sh [ __ ] just degradation like fear old people going you know and and and and like a nightmare like it was crazy you know and and they they all he has the pastor gets them to paint and all their paintings are [ __ ] insane like so heavy and depressing and a lot of them are missing limbs because of you know Gang Green and and so when you come from shooting there and then I was just in Vegas for the fights and you walk around and we went out like to you know nightclub after the fights and it's just Chanel and Louis Vuitton and this and that and like everybody you know on the stores on the way to the nightclub and then everyone dressed up you're like as human beings we just want to forget you know we just want entertain TV more enter spectacular [ __ ] just [ __ ] lots of stuff because it's we like to bury our heads in the sand because that's just right here like that [ __ ] is happening just [ __ ] you don't have to go to Afghanistan it's 5 miles from our border and so you know that that's what what you think when you come back from from places like that it's and and by the way all the guns when we were there it's the largest Hall of ammunition was over 250,000 rounds of ammunition 7.60 ammunition and it was coming from America and I was like oh that's you know strange like no all the guns are coming from America all the guns all the ammunition coming from America all the drugs comes up from here and all excuse
me and all the money comes from America well what was that one one crazy uh DEA idea they were going to sell guns The Fast and the Furious yeah they sold guns with with markers yeah so that they could find out who's using the guns and those guns were directly used to kill agents yeah that well they figured that was a scam it was a scam yeah and that it's they just pretended that it was a a mission or I mean just the fact that they could ever justify selling [ __ ] guns lots of guns to Mexican drug dealers they had the uh how could they possibly think that that would they had a Killer caught with uh the CIA the old director of the CIA ceremonial pistol wow like you know it has like director of the CIA on it holy [ __ ] so holy [ __ ] the just the fact that they could say that that was an operation and they could say this is what we're going to do the way we're going to track the network we have to actually sell them real guns yeah the the Mexicans laugh at it it's hilarious they're like like this is what the Americans are doing just giving free guns to the Narcos in order to find out what rapists are like I'm going to have to go get my duck sucked a lot I'm going to really have to find out what what it's like to rape people so I'm going to have to do some raping yeah what the [ __ ] how is no one getting why is no one going to jail for that well I mean God knows the the whole I mean the majority of the police down in Mexico are corrupt so every time the Americans try to do something with them like it just gets you know well how's no one in the American DEA going to jail for that I don't know man I that's that's seems like the most ridiculous idea of all time yeah the worst guy the worst guy I've ever heard about is a guy named Alin and he's a a narco that was fighting one of the Mormon colonies but um he's famous for uh you know he's obviously the drug dealers and and so he went into a drug rehab center or he didn't but he had his people Massacre them all 18 different people in a in a drug rehab center just for being in a drug rehab center you know so he's this is a very bad guy um and he kidnapped and killed some of the uh the Mormon the liaran family um but he is famous for getting caught on the other side of the board the American
side of the border with a Mexican military um Convoy filled with something like 15 Tons of pot and they had a firefight with the American Border Patrol and then they they came back into Mexico and they knew who it was they knew that they did they knew he had had a firefight but he went back to where he lives which is 8 miles down the road from the Mormons and the Mexican Government didn't do anything w a frog my Jesus Christ [ __ ] yeah Al Keen what a ballsy move you want a water or something man yeah maybe here reach it there you go if you need more we have a there's a fridge right behind you I'll grab you one or I got some cigarettes does that'll help yeah you think that'll help maybe what a ballsy move that guy gets in a a [ __ ] armored carvoy with weed and D has a firefight with them holy [ __ ] now well how are these Mormons getting around in Mexico do they all take convoys now are they like heavily armed and [ __ ] they're heavily armed yeah so do they like drive around with like tanks like what do they what do they do because I know like a lot of the drug cartels they have tanks now they have trucks with you know with guns and stuff so the Mormons drive around like they're in war yeah wow what a Nutty thing it must be for them huh yeah they are at War and they can't get out of there are they trying to plan to get out of there they can get out of there a lot of them have American passports but they don't want to do but they it's not like hanging with like Mexicans these are like big super tall cowboy hat wearing sort of Texas dudes but they're in Mexico they're in Mexico and they're going to war with these drug cartels I would think that if you're in ever in a place where you're war with drug cartels it's time to get the [ __ ] out of do we asked them that what' they say well this is my country this is my home it's hard to leave your home wow [ __ ] that it is that's some silly nonsense to me yeah you know I think people have to get over that idea you should live anywhere get your loved ones together and move where it's safe the [ __ ] out of here yeah if you have money I mean if you have enough to do it I can
understand if you have to fight for your property but that that's a lost cause that place yeah but you know they they don't leave it's I mean I I had the same answer in when I was in South Africa and we're shooting and there's like a lot of violence in South Africa and I kept saying to people why don't you leave they said this is our home those people are idiots that's crazy that's it's so ridiculous if you know there's a better spot on Earth where this kind of kind of [ __ ] doesn't happen you can live your life home home invasions and and assassinations and institutionalized rapes and all these things are just part of the daily equation then it's then [ __ ] it I'm not doing that yeah yeah I agree yeah yeah the [ __ ] man how do we get the rest of the world anywhere near where we are here right now is that possible can The Human Condition evolve so much that we could get everybody on a higher level all across the world or is this just a part of the program the Spectrum always goes from the worst case scenario to the best case scenario and every shade in between is that just how things keep moving is that just the conflict the yin and yang is that is that the the the pull and push of that's the best question I've heard in a long time but I think it's unanswerable if anybody if anybody would have seen it the Spectrum as broad as humanly possible I would think it would be you you or I mean the thing is is if you you see some things that that are that are great like we we did a story on these scientists who are developing um machines that can sort of um harvest the atmosphere so they can take out carbon and all the harmful things in the atmosphere and then sort of reduce it to CO2 which you can make you can actually activate algae for biofuel or you can uh combine them with other elements and lots of solar to make hydrogen cells and it might sound like you know we're clinging at straws here but when you start to think wow you know if we had unlimit if we have unlimited solar power you have unlimited carbon a it stops glow warming but B you can make you know hydrogen cells or biofuel fuels and then you say wow that would be interesting because you could actually
you could put hydrogen cells into like every new car so every new car had to have that so that's a whole new industry that we would run because of the patents the only um affluent that comes out of H uh hydrogen cells is pure HO2 which we're running out of water so you say hey it could build a new economy build this new world and so when you start talking to the scientists who are really smart guys and realizing well you can sort of regulate you know the the amount of harmful toxins in the atmosphere um there is sanity you know there are people coming up with ideas this could start a whole new economy uh you know sort of set us out on this you know great right track and you're like wow and you feel really good and maybe we are going to be smart maybe we are going to put these machines next to every Factory maybe we are going to do this great stuff and then the problem is as you go to Africa or southeast Asia and you know we did a a story on um you know a lot of people are going Europeans and Americans are going to uh um Thailand you know to get uh medical vacations they call them so you go there and you get a facelift and two weeks on vacation on borai or whatever and so you know then you can get transplants you can get this you can get that so more and more people are going for um U medical procedures so it's it started a war between the ambulance gangs to take take uh bodies uh you know because let's say you hurt yourself well more than often than not you're not going to arrive alive because they want to harvest your your pieces So Bangkok body snatches there there's like street gangs that fight each other over the sort of dead and dying so say if someone falls and breaks their leg yeah they're not going to take you to the hospital they're going to take your organs well if you're if you're injured they're going to make sure that you don't arrive alive and then they harvest your organs so they kill you yes they let you die yeah they let you die yeah they don't kill you they let it slowly take they don't give you medical we never we never saw anybody sort of overtly being killed we've heard about it but you don't want to say it yeah okay yeah well they don't
seem like they're ethical so I wouldn't imagine that would be outside the realm possibility but I I understand exactly where you're going with that you want to say so so on one side you have this Sort of hope I you know what we're going to get our [ __ ] together we're going to have new [ __ ] energy systems that aren't going to arm crazy people all this stuff and then then you go see that and you're like wait a minute we're parasites we're bad bad people yeah I I did this thing before my uh Showtime special in 2005 where I talked about human beings being a really complicated form of bacteria so I you know I've had this idea a few times while tripping and inside tanks and and even on planes you know I've had this feeling like if you looked at the Earth as a life force and you looked at human beings you would you would say well that's a growth you would say look it's it's everywhere it's it's it sucks all the fish out of the ocean it throws waste in there and kills all the rest of the life it [ __ ] everything it touches it everywhere it lives there's Brown smoke you burn down giant chunks of it it grows right back and even gets bigger it's like this is like some crazy growth I'm like if you didn't understand human if we you were so alien that human beings weren't identifiable as an individual you would you would look at them as a giant huge swarm of Life on top of this other life you wouldn't see individual people you would see it just like mold and I said that maybe we're here to eat the sandwich maybe we are like mold on a sandwich that maybe we're just a really super complicated thing that's here to [ __ ] things up that's why at the Pinnacle of Technology the the best we have to do is the that [ __ ] things up the most like nuclear power nuclear waste you know and and all sorts of other crazy experiments that are probably going on right now that we're not even aware of antimatter type [ __ ] they they're working on antimatter weapons in an in Area 51 what does that mean I don't even know I I don't even know but it can't be good it's like what nuclear power doesn't kill everybody quick enough you [ __ ] you need to develop something that kills everyone instantaneously we have enough bums to blow up the whole world like how many times over and they're like yeah
but but it doesn't do it quite as good as I think can be done so they continue to make nuttier and nuttier weapons you see that uh the jet the Drone that they've uh developed that go something like 18 times faster than the speed of sound some insane amount just to get over there and [ __ ] things up as quick as possible we don't need any better weapons that's you know we have we have weapons that we don't even have the first clue about now well it's what I've but we are nature as as animals as intelligent animals is to keep trying to make things better it's like if we stop right now with cell phones and said we good we good with this we can talk we can text this is good enough right can we just stop right there no one would take that people would go crazy four years from now they'd be [ __ ] so mad at their iPhone this [ __ ] clunky old hunk of [ __ ] like why can't they have something better than this now people would be angry we we have a deep desire for technological innovation at the end of that is destruction at the very peak of Technology the best we're cap capable of is blowing [ __ ] up it makes you wonder if that's really what we're here for it makes you wonder if we are not some weird technological caterpillar that's becoming a butterfly and all of our desires and ego and the need to get [ __ ] and drive a fast car all that [ __ ] really is just pushing the society and the society is pushing technology and the technology one day someone's going to press a [ __ ] button and the whole thing see now I'm not going to be so smiley anymore maybe that's the way it's supposed to be though she just bump yeah well my theory is my theory is that that's uh no that that's that's how the universe gets born and dies with us and that the bing bang is really just a bunch of scientists with autism on anti-anxiety medication and they make a big bang machine and one of them presses it and the whole universe starts all over again and it starts again with planets forming and then life forms then Dinosaurs the Dinars get hit by an asteroid billions of years go by the whole deal and then one guy presses a button on a big bang gen makes boom and it starts all over again why not if the UN if it's possible for the universe to be the universe that's possible too it's possible that it's just a bunch of
scientists with autism and every 14 billion years they blow the whole [ __ ] thing Sky High and it starts from scratch uh well definitely uh we're going to have to eat drink and be marry then because we're all going to that's what I'm talking about what do you think when you talk to these people that are like I mean for you you are a realist you're a dude who seeing the dark parts of the world when you talk to people and they you know they start hitting you with some [ __ ] power of positive thinking type [ __ ] and hit you with the secret or eer tole and you know like do you do you want to like when that whole the secret thing was going on do you want to say listen your [ __ ] environment is real okay you don't create it with your mind it's real there really are parts of the world that suck and positive thinking is not going to get you at of Mogadishu right well we are on Pasadena I mean like you know positive thing got you here yeah there you go uh you know New York tends to be a bit more cynical and La tends a bit to be a bit more positive thinking weather and pretty girls that's what it does it for real yeah and space space um the fact that it's not you don't get rained on hardly ever it's never cold that's huge that East Coast winter thing is that's [ __ ] that's [ __ ] everybody gets angry yeah your face hurts you know that shit's no good you get stuck on the highway ever get stuck on the highway yeah the whole [ __ ] Highway shut down black ice that's always fun black ice that [ __ ] doesn't happen here doesn't happen here at all so people are more relaxed it really is plus the people that landed on the East Coast were all animals who were so [ __ ] fed up with Europe that they got on boats they got on boats and they got went across an ocean before there was TV okay and they decided to move to this new country that they didn't have probably even have good pictures of right you know someone just told them there's a Land of Plenty and they decided to get in a and give it a shot those people are psycho I mean those are some really adventuresome [ __ ] people well those were the those were the first ones those were all adventuresome but the ones who said okay you're going to go out that way we don't know how far it is and we don't really know if you're
going to get there and by the way there's all kinds of you know tribes that are going to try to scalp you and rape your daughters and all this [ __ ] as you go through there and there's mountains that are probably impassible and you're going to have to eat your kids just go yeah go west and and and it was it was when we say Frontier it was like the frontier it was we don't know what's what's next we don't know what's beyond there and so those people to say I'm going to leave I'm like a Irish [ __ ] potato picker and I lived in New York for three years and that was no good so I'm going to go out and and I'm just going to go out into [ __ ] absolute Wilderness where everybody hates me and the Animals want to eat me and I'm just going to keep going until I hit the other ocean it's crazy and it's amazing how quick it happened yeah yeah it was just like Bing wo within a couple hundred years a giant [ __ ] swarm of millions of people had completely populated this one continent that before that you know the last time people came across here was the Ice Age there wasn't really a lot of human beings living here what most people don't know is in North America just a little over 10,000 years ago half of it was covered by a mile of ice I mean wrap your head around a mile of [ __ ] ice above your head and that covered half this country yeah this is this country that we don't understand like the history of humanity in the world we have a very um patchy sort of uh knowledge of everything past the ice age everything when about people 10,000 plus years ago it's a lot of there's some [ __ ] there's a lot of bullshitting because there's a lot of information they're not willing to look at some new stuff's comeing along new construction that they found like in Turkey this go Becky tley that's at least 14,000 years old massive excellently cut stone column civilization clear civilization back in a time where they're attributing that area only as hun gatherers there is no civilization there's no cities where's the [ __ ] City man you got to you got to explain this not not only that has drawings of um statues that are carved into it like these 3D images of animals that don't even exist in that area that part of the world so it's a it's it's
real possible that [ __ ] like you know the ice being over half of this country that that's moved around for tens of thousands of years and there's probably been these pretty kind of nifty sophisticated civilizations but maybe they get to a point not even as far as we've gotten right now but maybe get to some previous point and just implode like those crazy [ __ ] in Pakistan or implode like Nazi Germany or or implode like a million different examples from genas Khan to to you know to the Catholic Church look at all the crazy [ __ ] that's gone on in this country this yeah it it easily could be like that always and that we've gotten to these really amazing Atlantean type civilizations and just [ __ ] chaos boom somebody comes in strapped up with Dynam who the [ __ ] knows and just Aces the whole thing there's one part of the world somewhere in the Middle East I forget where it is where there's um there they they found glass in the desert they found like this area in a satellite image God I wish I had more information about this from the tip of my tip of my uh tongue but the the it was either some sort of an asteroidal impact or like hundreds of thousands of years ago somebody had a [ __ ] gigantic explosion there like if it was like some sort of civilization and they flatten that [ __ ] out that's not outside the realm of possibility that someone figured out something some sort of massive way to [ __ ] things up you know that we're the only ones that have ever figured that out throughout history it's very possible that somebody else might have done we might have done this whole dance to the top a couple of times tumbling you know this is just the highest we've ever gotten and kept it together we're very good at destroying [ __ ] that's for sure I've got this guy coming on June 7th for those of you who have been asking me about this uh John Anthony West and uh he's uh this egyptologist who is uh famous for his uh work in uncovering the fact that there's not just one Egyptian civilization that they're dealing with you're dealing with old older and older civilizations that go back to 30 plus thousand years there's actual hieroglyphs that show that Egyptian civilization goes back that far like they even name the Pharaohs but for some reason modern day
egyptologist have looked at all this stuff and and said that well that's a myth like everything was real up until about 5,000 years ago and all the rest of that stuff is just they just made that [ __ ] up because it doesn't it doesn't coincide with our own ideas of how long civilization has been around for you know it just seems to me that we you look at how sophisticated we are today and how close we are to [ __ ] it up and how badly it is [ __ ] up and all the places in the world that you described it seems like the odds that we haven't done this already like it just seems really small and I think we've got a lot of Amnesia when it comes to the past of of of humans and I think you also have to fact in physical things that we can't control like the Earth volcanoes earthquakes sh asteroidal impacts [ __ ] like that you know when I'm driving here today I was driving on the the 118 and uh it's beautiful you're going through the hills the mountains and I'm looking up and I'm just thinking it it is amazing that we are basically in the whole world is a convertible right there's no top yeah and we're just just we just sort of accepted that we're just head to the universe just nothing but space and [ __ ] giant rocks can fall from the sky and crush your country and we've just sort of completely forgotten about that I mean there's there's impact holes that you can visit I mean if you look at the General Life of the universe you know the universe being billions of years old right and look at all the whole on Earth and then you just think how long have we been around 4.6 billion years how many holes are there this is going to happen again you [ __ ] this we're forgetting that this [ __ ] happens like there's hundreds of thousands of them you know they're as big as States and they're flying through the air and they're going to land yeah and they're going to [ __ ] up everything you're really depressing me you can throw that no it's not bad man I think I I think if that's if we're going to go that's that's a [ __ ] amazing way to go that's that's going to be quick it's going to be quick quick and it's going to be crazy and you don't have to worry about anybody suffering you know it's like we're not afraid to sleep but everybody's afraid to die and
both of them are inevitable it's going to happen you're going to die it's not like we're going to live forever if the asteroid doesn't come we're going to die for sure that might be a crazy way to do it I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's good but might not be bad it might be the way it has to happen for the next Ultra intelligent thing to come along that wouldn't have existed before the dinosaurs wouldn't have existed before us may the next I'd rather I'd rather go out by an asteroid than a series of sort of dirty bombs by some sort of cult or religious you know terrorism did you see the latest footage from Syria all the murdered children yeah what the [ __ ] is going on over there well it's the same thing you know that that that happened in Libya it's the same thing you know that might happen in Egypt um you know when people fight it's years you know what you said about Vietnam though they were remember Vietnam and you know when you go to these places and you see what injuries look like which are colostomy bags and you know legs that are gone and arms that are gone you say well you know why would you ever do this again and then you know a generation forgets and then they go do something else they go just go do it again how do we how do we stop the cycle is it possible without mushrooms I don't think so mushrooms the only way I think I think the asteroids have to do it asteroids I'd rather have the asteroids do it than know the concept of asteroids coming from mushrooms no excuse me mushrooms coming from asteroids asteroids coming from mushrooms maybe the world comes from mushrooms may this getting to be a really trippy well this is uh from McKenna McKenna's Theory uh well panspermia is a real theory of life you know the the theory that amino acids and certain nutrients and things and water in fact comes from comets and asteroids and that life is transferred from planet to planet by asteroidal impact this is a legit scientific theory well McKenna's theory about psilocybin was that psoc is completely alien to any other form of life that we have here on Earth there's nothing like it biologically or biochemically it's I think it's I'm not I'm not saying exactly right but I believe it's like for Fox for looxy NN
dimethyl tryptamine it mimics the human neurotransmitter dimethyl tripto which is a potent psychedelic drug it mimics that but it also has like the phosphorus in the four position which apparently no other no no other Compound on Earth does and the idea is that spores can exist in a vacuum and that spores could easily have traveled through the vacuum in the radiation of space and landed from another planet here created this life form that wants you to eat it so it pops up and looks like a dinner plate and it pops up all over the place everywhere you go it's not hiding at all and karmically it's literally at the bottom of the food chain it lives on [ __ ] it's just a humble little thing that wants you to come along and eat it and when you eat it you're granted spectacular visions spectac visions and feelings of love and God and unity and the thoughts of the universe being entirely connected in one big mathematical equation computations and cells and organisms and [ __ ] all the way down to atoms and subatomic particles and then branching out again and all this [ __ ] comes from something that grows out of [ __ ] all this [ __ ] comes from something that comes from space and the idea is that our our concept of life and our concept of intelligent is very narrow and we egocentrically have assumed that all intellig must be contained inside a brain some sort of an intelligent upright body that we can respect that's going to come here from another planet and show us how to use a laser gun you know but in fact intelligence can exist in plant form and that intelligence in in in spectacular visions and and knowledge all comes out of a dimension that you cannot access without these molecules that exists in these plants and it opens literally chemical doorways in the mind it's pretty fascinating idea the fact that you know that is Alien Invasion that mushrooms are an alien invasion I got to read this who's McKenna Terence McKenna yeah he's a who was a crazy psychedelic chemist SL botanist uh Slash uh I think his degrees were all in ethnobotany and his I think his main study of work was the concept of uh the stoned ape Theory um that and his idea of time wave zero which the idea was that time time was like a mathematical progression of waves and that like uh novelty and terrible times
would all just they would all be almost be predictable that you could it was some sort of a mathematical equation all getting to infinite novelty which is like in this year supposedly really which is probably horeshit but uh his other the fascinating theory was the mushroom Theory the stoned ape Theory and that was the the theory that that's how human beings actually evolved from lower primates was the consumption of psychedelic mushrooms and his theory actually I don't know if it's been supported by a lot of different scientists I know there's some debate on whether or not his timelines are right but it's uh based on the idea that a bunch of monkeys ate some mushrooms and then helped them evolve it's interesting how many theories there are about how he got from sort of that to this yeah well it's crazy look at we go to visit them in the zoo I took my kids to the zoo the other day and I'm staring at my cousins sure in a cage well here in the home of Scientology you know they believe that the aliens came and fans went into the monkeys and that's what we are we're just vessels for alien Souls well that's the sexiest idea yeah sexiest idea is the Anunnaki stuff you know the stuff that we were created by aliens and we're a genetic engineering program and you know you look at like stuff from the Sumerian text from like 6,000 years ago that depicts the Anunnaki coming here and how do you not know that that's not science fiction maybe that's like their version of uh sure outer space yeah or uh the outer limits or something like that well it's it's it's insane how many people are like this was this was how it happened it's aliens it's mushrooms it's this it's that well the weird thing is the doubling of of the human brain size I don't know what the [ __ ] happened man but I think it's probably a lack of information more than it is uh I think it can't just be mushrooms that we did if we did that would be amazing if it was like all you had to do is regularly eat mushrooms your brain would just grow if we just got on mushrooms within a 100 years we'd look like gray aliens just giant heads we wouldn't need any muscles because we would use our minds to control matter and we' just be moving [ __ ] around constantly with our minds I
feel a mushroom trip coming on today I think you think so I think I'm ready to do it today well you got that um you got one over here man you want a cigarette um that's going to fix yeah today I was thinking this how much I love you I hate cigarettes and I'm handing him to you I'm like I just want you to like me I just want you to be happy Shane love you too you're you're you're blowing my mind today um a lot of people blowing my mind always a lot of people have been passing around this uh speech that you gave uh I forget it was some conference lately where you were talking about the future of Television can you explain that CU I haven't actually watched it yet but I'm I'm interested to what you yeah um it was a speech uh for internet week about you know everyone's online versus versus cable and you know what I was saying was so I didn't know what to do I didn't have a anything planned that was very smart so I I was flying back actually from Afghanistan no I was flying back yeah from Afghanistan and I ducked into Pakistan to see the Karachi shoots I was flying back from Pakistan and I was thinking about all the kids that I had seen who were going insane and who you know the guys who had kill for 10 bucks and this is [ __ ] just crazy [ __ ] dudes and I was like look the youth everywhere in in in Asia and Africa and in Europe here everyone's [ __ ] revolting but what what are we making like so and then I went to do the upfronts which is where all the TV shows get sold and online shows get sold and you have like the voice which which is the biggest show which is just American Idol you know TV is derivative of TV TV is just making shittier and shittier shows based on itself and then the on the internet which could be this it could be revolutionary because it's better because you can be watching something then text somebody then get information then Google this and [ __ ] what's going on here and here and instead of trying to be and and say what the [ __ ] is going on and by the way young people are revolting all around the world and they want they this is how they get their news now they get it through blogs and online [ __ ] here and there they don't even watch TV anymore but instead of doing something
Innovative and challenging and revolutionary we just do shittier versions of TV shows with half the budget and so it's these shitty sort of Google shows you know what really pisses me off is it's like like America's Home you know funniest own videos with a with a sort of annoying host and you're like why don't we why don't we use the internet why don't we use you know the the the social networks and you know video and all the stuff we can do now to actually do something that's good and revolutionary and start changing [ __ ] because when he asks and says well how do we [ __ ] stop all this [ __ ] well the first way you stop about it is stop it is to find out about it so we have to know about it and then we know about it and then we can do [ __ ] like we can not buy certain things you know dollar advocacy you know consumer advocacy is the most powerful you know tools we have etc etc but first of all is knowing about it and and so I just sort of got really pissed off that the internet has become so derivative and so shitty and just trying to mimic TV and TV is [ __ ] yeah so let's try to [ __ ] make something that actually people understand what the people like or that people it helps people or or or or they understand of [ __ ] like for example like Cony 2012 you're like well it's it shows that it's viral it shows that people actually want to know this [ __ ] and shows it but like it was it was it was okay like it was just sort of half ass thing what did you think about that whole situation I mean that that is another example of one of the reasons why I believe that life is work a fiction a [ __ ] guy decides that he's going to make this viral video against James Cony whacking it whacking it whacking it oh is that his name Charles Coney James cone James con he's gonna make this viral video expose the world to this horrible person but they're getting a disproportionate amount of the money goes to them and then uh they get accused of being unscrupulous whatever the words he would use to they didn't do anything illegal they just did they're a little funky with the money then the guy shows up naked in the streets beating off acting gay did you see the video yeah uh that's like craziness like yeah well you know they didn't I'm sure they didn't
think you know they they went there these you know kids they go over and they shot it you know Fair Fox to them you know it's I've been there it's a bad part of the world and and you know what it's interesting on a few points one because it shows that the [ __ ] like everyone says kids don't care we don't people don't care about anything outside of America like it's a big in media they're always say don't do anything you know outside of America people just don't give a [ __ ] about it well I think it shows that people do give a [ __ ] about it and E and these guys weren't expecting it to become a huge thing and you know so obviously when weird [ __ ] happens to you you have different ways of coping this guy cop by going [ __ ] completely a [ __ ] crazy which actually seems appealing sometimes like when life's really hard you're just like I'm going to take off my [ __ ] clothes off oh there's [ __ ] serial killers and assassins everywhere oh I'm just I don't get I'm going to get your Fleshlight [ __ ] goinging that guy was on the street in his underwear he got naked he was like flailing his arms around and acting like super gay yes I wonder what he was on what makes you act gay but besides being gay mostly [ __ ] balls booty hoes Red Band fleshlights oh what is uh but yeah Cody I mean the thing is it became huge and I think it shows that there's a massive audience anyway so possible yeah and the whole thing is is let's make [ __ ] that actually isn't [ __ ] let's make stuff that you know uh uh is telling the stories and and that's what we're doing and I said you know look if if it's Vice who's doing it then we're really in [ __ ] trouble because I didn't come up you know with any sort of save the world complex yeah but you're not compromised yet and as a human being when you gotten to the point where you see this information you're not compromised so you're releasing it and you're focusing on it and you have an honest eye for what what well it's also when we went around the world and expanded the company you just see all this sh happening and you're like what the [ __ ] why isn't anybody [ __ ] saying this [ __ ] and then but but I always say that look if we're if we're a new source then it's the world's in trouble because we were a style mag you
know we all we gave a [ __ ] about was [ __ ] you know famously say you know cocaine super models rare Denim and sneakers and then when you go around the rest of the world you're like holy [ __ ] [ __ ] and you sort of you know come out of the pond and go okay well we got to do something about this well I think that's Pro they're here to get you yeah they've had enough I think uh it's probably you know the only way journalists ever become journalists in the first place they they they have something that they feel needs to be said right they have this desire to to send a message and that comes from seeing things that are wrong seeing things that need to be reported on things that you know and it turned you into a journalist I mean essentially the reality of the world turned you into a journalist and you're the perfect example of uh what a journalist should be because you're not compromised because you can do these stories and you can you can I mean if you had someone overseeing you someone from NBC or CBS do do you think you could have gotten any of this stuff done well if you said to them hey I'm going to go to Pakistan and I'm going to meet with the Taliban I don't I don't think yeah we we wouldn't be allowed to do a lot of the stuff that we do because because we just we just go and and you know you don't get permits you guys just go don't generally don't get permits do you ask the people if you could put them in a movie or on television on the internet yeah the people they sign anything they sign things but uh people generally want to tell their stories but I mean ask government permission or police permission or you know the things you're supposed to or also um you're generally supposed to go with security teams and we're like well I did a security team once because we were doing a show with MTV and um they made us get one in Beirut and I've been to Beirut like 20 times beirut's not that bad there's sometimes and parts of it that are bad but and and we were walking Target because you just have all these dudes like talking and so I said I'm never going to have security ever again because that's the sure way that you're not going to get a story or the real people aren't going to talk to you or everyone's going to think what who are
the [ __ ] these guys right so we go and you just you just we call it immersion ISM you just go immerse yourself you know in in in the place and then just you know press record don't go in with any sort of preconceived ideas or Notions or political paradigms or I'm going to prove this because generally you're not going to prove that like for example if you went to Somali and said I'm going to prove that these guys are Barbarian Pirates and you know then you're going to shut yourself off to exactly what you said which is well actually we illegally irradiated their whole coast and illegally overfished it so that they're starving and they're like well we're going to tax the the people who did this to us yeah they're called the people Coast Guard what voluntary Coast Guard of Somalia that's what they call themselves what the [ __ ] man dude if anybody knows how to fix this it's you no you see it all I think it's the internet yeah I think it's the only hope we have the internet and Technology the technology like what you were saying about pulling carbon of of the atmosphere and and cleaning the air and and reusing the fuel using that makes sense I mean if technology can put it out there it seems like you know we should be able to harvest it so maybe not now maybe 100 years from now whenever the [ __ ] it actually becomes viable well somebody asked me at internet week the guy said well what if I'm not angry you know I'm whatever 22 and you know I'm not angry and I want to go get an MBA and make money and I said great you know I think that that there was the sort of our grandparents generation that that you know were they didn't know better so they were like oh Space Age food you know TV dinners and let's produce all the food let's make it all with computers and or whatever you know assembly lines and so it started to be bad for us you know and started you know all these things Agent Orange Let's you know do you know all these terrible things but they didn't know any better the technology was sort of their you know savior but the Baby Boomers you know they were the first generation that knew better but still became the largest energy consumers the largest garbage producers all this thing Gen X has sort of slipped by but guess what the Bill's here and it's going to be Gen Y like
they have to pay there is no there is no get out of jail free card now so as you're seeing economically and you know socially and culturally and politically we're shifting and if you if you just want to sort of say I'm going to stick my head in the sand which we've done for a little while I don't think you're going to be able to anymore I agree with you and I agree that that things are shifting and I also think that that's why these uh attacks on the Constitution have been permitted and and are being pushed through I think they've uh they've seen the prognosis and they've seen the future and the future is the trends that we see on the internet it's a trend towards a more libertarian line of thinking it's a trend towards a smaller government more accountability less bureaucracy the idea of creating jobs doesn't mean you create some new [ __ ] laws that you have to saddle everybody with and a bunch of people to enforce those laws and that's what they a lot of these politicians like to think of as creating jobs you know it's not job you're creating problems and you [ __ ] that are keep attacking the Constitution and pulling amendments apart and and and really defacing the whole idea what this country was founded on they're doing it just because they sense the future the future is not it's not in it's not going to work the way it works now it's just not we're not going to deal with this whole idea of representative government we're not going to deal with special interest groups that [ __ ] is nonsense that's got to go away yeah I think if you look at at what's happening too is if you look at Syria for example if you look at at what happened in Egypt or or Libya you know I spent a lot of time in in those countries just before the the revolution got arrested in in Libya and then when I went back you know and I said it you know I would have never called this you know not a lot of people did I would have I would have said the opposite because it was so restrictive and it was so you know hardcore and everyone was so Pro regime but because of the internet because of Twitter because of Facebook because all these social tools you had all these young people able to communicate and say actually I'm pissed off too oh you're we're all [ __ ] pissed off hey let's
change and I think that you know that that change isn't going to be pretty in a lot of cases and it's going to be problematic but you do have young people who are taking up arms now you also have young people who are just smashing the [ __ ] out of cities like they did in Paris and especially in London uh last summer but you know what happens when when you know Occupy Wall Street becomes Egypt you know to try to smash the status quo what happens when Occupy Wall Street becomes Syria or becomes Libya and you know it's it's not an foreseeable future maybe but I couldn't I didn't call Libya or Egypt or Syria either you know there's a lot a lot of of of unrest out there and there's a lot of people communicating that unrest and in fact if you see that in America it's growing and that if I was uh you know campaigning this summer then I would be focusing on oh we have a huge [ __ ] ground swell and a global ground swell of dissatisfaction with the only group that's actually going to get off their ass and do something about it you you must have uh at least some emotional attachment to the Julian Assange and the the Wikileaks case sure um when you see this uh this case in this Bradley Manning kid this this uh who's I believe he still in solitary confinement um I don't even know if does he have a court date I mean I don't know but uh they just locked this kid in a box and C cut him off from humans until he's got I'm sure he's completely crazy at this point I don't think you cannot go crazy in solitary confinement for 5 years I think well it just shows that conspiracy theorists aren't crazy I mean they're not crazy at all because the majority of of of these are are are proof that there are you know very sorted and unseemly things going on every day 100% And The the information that that guy released alone makes him a hero that guy released things that are anti-American he released things that are they war crimes he saw war crimes we're not war criminals we're Americas we're American yeah this is how most most proud Americans feel we're American and we're not [ __ ] that's it we don't take any [ __ ] but we're not [ __ ] that's that's when you get a guy who feels that and he's an American and he's a soldier and he wants to you know he's a
voluntary Soldier signed up to represent this government and he sees his government doing horrible [ __ ] that's not being reported it's being covered up covering [ __ ] up when you do crimes is not how crimes get resolved well since when did telling the truth and and um keeping governments and big business in check become anti-American that guy's a goddamn patri and he's locked in a box and then Julia s gets in trouble this Wikileaks thing is so fascinating man people were accusing me of getting my information wrong but no he's in he's not even accused of rape he's accused of having sex without a condom I wasn't lying he apparently you know they were sleeping together and he's stuck it in this chick I don't I don't know the [ __ ] full story but the bottom line is that's why they're trying to export this guy like if that's not the craziest thing we're going to regulate voluntary sexual I mean two people are naked in bed we're going to decide what didn't didn't happen between a guy and a girl and you're going to spend that much [ __ ] money to monitor this guy and make sure he checks in constantly and this he's put videos online of his his daily routine he has to drive to the police station and check in before he can do things he under house arrest the whole thing is madness well it the thing is is the fact that they they keep going on on the story and saying yeah we don't want him for actually blowing the whistle on every crime that's been going on in the government we want him for this sort of weird you know quasy thing that happened in Sweden that wouldn't be considered anything anywhere else well yeah what I think someone described it as surprise sex like that's not it's not even rape technically it's like they had had consensual sex but with a condom and then they were lying in bed I don't know what the [ __ ] really happened so I shouldn't even be saying this but the idea that they're they're wasting so much resource on a sexual issue that's not even a violent one not even rape but it's kind of smart actually because it's it for example it's you know it's the one thing that you you know you can't say well they just drummed it up and it's [ __ ] in because well rape is very serious you know the worst it's the worst so you're in you're in a a catch
22 of saying well they just drummed it up to get this guy for blowing the whistle but yet at the same time they drummed up the one thing that you're sort of taboo to go against it's the number one thing yeah and but they they couldn't even get a good version of it I mean the story is so weak like if it was you know he roofied her and he did this he tied her up and took pictures and we have the pictures oh well the guy's obviously a [ __ ] that released important information but I think the sad thing about it is that you look at you know deep throat you know who you know announced who he was and all that stuff and he did it to to save the government and all that stuff he's a hero right right and and you know well it depends on who won you know Bradley Manning could come out to be a hero Julian Assan could come out to be a hero if there was some crazy revolution in the future you know we realize this is where the turning point of American society when they said we're not going to take this [ __ ] anymore when they watch that collateral murder video and realize what what do we doing to our children when we're forcing them to even think like this this is this is acceptable this is you have this one shot at life and this is how you're going to spend some of your time shooting missiles down at innocent people wandering through the street but but my question is when did it change from journalism and the fourth estate's job being to make sure that politicians weren't lying to make sure the corporations weren't doing these bad things and I think Watergate changed it right well I think actually distribution I think changes because four companies run all news media and they're all major Global corporations that all have huge advertising and so they're conflicted and they don't go after politicians and I remember during the the the Iraq War you know people knew that there you know that this was all a construct they knew that you know there weren't weapons of mass destruction they knew that everyone was used to joke I used to hang out with all the journalists and they would say of course I mean Al-Qaeda is is the opposite of of the bath party how far do you take that how far do you take the the the whole you know idea of conspiracy I don't know if it's it's there certainly a conspiracy it's a
conspiracy I think I think yeah for sure and but that's been admitted to now and and I think that the the the because of 9/11 the Press got co-opted and it became unamerican to say anything bad about the government or the military and I think that that is that is was one of the sort of turning points a because that's [ __ ] and B Because young people got completely disenfranchised by news media because we saw it all happen we say wait a minute you know this doesn't sound right and then afterwards they're like yeah there was no weapons of mass destruction yeah there was no Al-Qaeda here and you're like well but we knew that but we kept saying it the the news media became part of a government propaganda program and everybody just went along with it and that's [ __ ] scary because no matter who's in government you know if they can just put together propaganda how is that different than you know than Nazi Germany how is it that different than than any of these totalitarian regimes where they say yes you know uh you know kimil song is God or whatever like how is that any different because you can use the fourth estate as your PR agency well there was CIA had released some sort of a statement right after the war with Iraq it started that they were going to start releasing fake stories to throw off the enemy and once once you admit to doing something like that that's an incredibly slippery ground like that's the only way to defeat the enemy is you have to put out fake stories and lie to everyone and we're supposed to give you that power like what kind of checks and balances are in place before that stuff gets distributed what you know where what the [ __ ] is going on here well also you know Memorial Day and you said it exactly right is that you know what are we doing sending you know going in with what's our mission to go into Afghanistan what's our mission well we have a mission out Taliban Taliban Taliban okay now we're letting Taliban in because well we've lost we're saying okay well we have to have power sharing with them and so you say well and everybody knows it's going to go right back to Civil War so you're like well why did we come here why did we do all this what like what the [ __ ]
so you don't think that it's some sort of a grand conspiracy to extract minerals and all that stuff you think it's much more of a cluster [ __ ] [ __ ] decision by government and then being in place because of momentum and because of the fact there's contractors and they all want to keep getting paid and they resource wealth for sure and it was the it was the story that that you know we broke in Sudan that time you know Dar for is oil um and resource wealth you know we did it in the Congo we've done it in a lot of stories all over the place I wouldn't say I I would say they got caught in the Quagmire of Afghanistan much like the Soviets did they went in there they were trying to do something and they just got sucked in and then it got worse and worse and worse and worse and worse and look it got so it's so bad on every level I mean America's in there trying to fight this War on Drugs War on Drugs War on Drugs they've been in there 12 years there's never been more heroin for cheaper or higher quality ever in fact it's so good that they put the Golden Triangle out of business it's all coming from Afghanistan now and so America is the biggest drug dealer in the world because we're just sitting there running this country that just ships out all the heroin in the world how much of a piece does the CIA have of that who knows well I would say that you know look it it's been documented that they were part of the original uh outflux into America from Vietnam during the Vietnam war um as a way to keep Urban population sort of at Bay um that's well done that was like a real so social experiment they would bring heroin into the ghetto to yeah really that's that's that's well documented yeah but is it well document the intentions yeah because there was civil unrest in the major urban center so they they allowed hero when to go in because it took away all sort of well everything except for heroin addiction yeah so I mean if it's been a part of their policy in the past obviously they're going to be incredibly sensitive to it but I don't think that you can say that they're not involved or at least the state department is not involved because the uh statistics speak for themselves there's two times more so by a factor of two so 100% more heroin addiction heroin addicts in
America since the start of the Afghani war heroin's never been cheaper it's never been better quality and we've been running it so like it's it's just flooding out it's destroyed the you know Russia has now got 7% in Pakistan which is a you know Muslim country extremist Muslim country has something like 12% in in Karachi anyway uh heroin addiction and and it's just it's flooding out of of Afghanistan and that's we we could have gone in and taken all the fields out we didn't well not only did we not take the fields out we guarded them sure yeah yeah definitely most people want to come up with some sort of crazy explanation or excuse for why they did that well because it's because they fear that they're going to it's the only way they're really making money they're making money two ways which is the American government and and heroin and so they're like well if we really if we take away heroin production then they're really going to hate us do they does any of that stuff make its way into pharmaceutical grade opiates like oxycodone and things along those lines who knows I don't know I all I know is like every time we do a story on the heroin uh situation in Afghanistan is [ __ ] shocking because you're just like the Americans let them there's actually you know pictures of American troops guarding poppy Jesus [ __ ] Christ it's nut it's the War on Drugs sort of except over there over there we're a a war against the War on Drugs well if you see if you see the War on Drugs in Afghanistan and then you see the War on Drugs in Mexico yeah you're like well well it's completely corrupt from start to finish there's this War on Drugs is complete horseshit what's the craziest slippery War ever when you you the war on drugs and then you have armed F soldiers guarding poppy fields what side are you on in this War on Drugs cuz it seems like you're on the pro drug side you're guarding the drugs like how could you have a War on Drugs when you're guarding the drugs and you're sending all the weapons to Mexico that they need and all the money yeah and you don't even go to jail for it no and 90 what what was the the amount 90% plus of the heroin comes out of Afghanistan and what did you say about how much what how much has the percentage of it increased since we have occupied just in America
just in America it's doubled but that's just in America but in in in Russia it's gone through the roof it's it's doubled in UK but Russia and Pakistan in the Middle East countries like Iran everywhere on the path has just heroin addiction has soared in fact heroin addiction is so huge in Russia did you see the thing we did on crocodile that yes what the [ __ ] man so they're so addicted they're so addicted to heroin that if they like when they can't get it or because it got expensive now CU so many people are buying it that they make their own synthetic heroin and uh and it's called crocodile because it makes you look like a crocodile CU it makes your skin like scales and then the scales fall off and you just have like bone there it's insane if you haven't seen it if you haven't seen the images online of people that are addicted that have that it's incredible it's so frightening it's frightening it's so frightening that people would do that to themselves I'm going to literally shoot drugs that make my skin rot and fall off the bone he's not exaggerating there's like people with big their arms have like big gaping holes you see the bone you see the bone and they can walk around they're not even infected well some of it yeah some of them get infected it was weird it looked like like it was burnt off like it was like it it kills all the Flesh and it falls off Jesus Christ yeah that's insane what happens then they just die I mean you can't just have your bones just exposed like that right does it ever fill up if you quit you know I don't know the answer to that question does anybody ever get off that [ __ ] it's it's even more addictive than heroin Christ yeah you guys had that [ __ ] about the Colombian drug that you blow in people's faces yeah that is ter terrifying well the freaky thing about Scopolamine is you don't believe it's true until you see it because the stories are it's the zombie drug right and it's we heard stories of you know people coming into their apartments on the security cameras and like clearing out their whole apartments and you see them on security cams doing it you know and and they don't have any recollection they wake up in the morning their bank accounts are drained etc etc and they
couldn't figure it out until they the far the guys who were Colombians who were making uh cocaine were using the same process to refine Bor andanga flowers to make Scopolamine and what was happening was generally it started out as hookers and hookers would put a condom inside their mouth like this so it wouldn't go down and then they put a little Scopolamine in their lips and then when they go to like kiss you whatever they go and they would spit the Scopolamine you inhale it and then you go holy [ __ ] that's scary and then you go into this trans like State and then it's Auto suggestion so you you say okay we're going to go now to your apartment yes and we're going to go to the apartment and then we're going to clean out all your [ __ ] and we're going to go to your bank and we're going to and they they have security footage of them going to the bank and signing [ __ ] and it's not like one or two people this is like happens all the [ __ ] time oh God and so uh it's that's a [ __ ] terrifying drug terrifying cuz you're just gone you're in a sort of zombie like narcotic State and you just do what people tell you to do that's the real Ultimate date Rave drug yeah that's the real [ __ ] we got to make sure people don't get a hold of that stuff that's a life rape drug can you imagine dating one of those girls oh my God someone spits something in your mouth and makes you be there zombie those girls have to be undatable there's no way you can date that guy what a girl that would do that to somebody yeah like like if you knew that's what she did as a job and you ever got in a fight with her had all said she was a hooker I know imagine dating one of those hooker girls yeah you shouldn't date hookers that's just me I'm silly though especially ones that take over your brains yeah well I'm so terrified of [ __ ] like that why would that exist why would there be something that allows you to be turned into a [ __ ] a zombie to someone else's suggestions like that you know when you see the the different things in nature like different parasites that control different organisms and make them do [ __ ] up things it really is kind of bizarre when you stop and think about it like what kind of a system what kind of a world do we live in where there's like there's that laying around a plant plant
that grows and if you gets into your body people just you around you don't have that's crazy yes you become a [ __ ] robot you become an automated little slave for them drugs are drugs are crazy we just did a story on you probably know a lot more about it than I do but ibaan yeah and we were doing a story on the Underground heroin clinics where you know people uh like it's actually started by a lot of EX junkies who were like 40-year junkies like couldn't get off tried you know hundreds of times to get clean and they would do ibigan and then it interrupts your addiction you know for like 2 weeks or whatever so it's long enough that you sort of get up you know you don't have to go coil turkey and uh so we went to these clinics where they administer Ian stuff it was [ __ ] fascinating it was crazy did you do it no because I saw them do it and it's they they they were taking massive doses though they were they're taking like it's 48 Hours lots of vomiting like crazy [ __ ] I have a couple friends that have done it one that did it recently one that it changed his whole life I have a buddy of mine he got his back got injured got hooked on pain kills uh pain pills started uh taking you know the you name them he was taking them couldn't get off them was ruining his life goes down gets an iag gain boom clean 100% now brings people down there started a Zone Center down there brings people down there to uh to introduce them to Mexico yeah but I'm like [ __ ] Mexico man Mexico is scary as [ __ ] well they it's because it's still legal there it's illegal here it's a schedule one drug just like hero yeah well everything in Mexico was decriminalized now right they did most people don't know didn't they decriminalize acid mushrooms pot Coke everything and this but is to fight the cartels exactly but yeah I a again that's yeah that's the strongest drug I've ever seen like because people under it were like holy [ __ ] yeah my my business partner did it changed his life yeah well he's done it a couple times he's done a couple different things rather to change his life done iasa done you know IA G he's really into going to these weird places and going on big trips but the Ia gain is is interesting cuz we followed
you know some junkies straight through the whole process and it was pretty remarkable because it worked like yeah it was was nuts yeah um Aubrey my friend who's done it he uh you know he described the process and I didn't want to do it even slightly it sounded like hell hell yeah like you know you can you can talk me into doing some DMT maybe it's 15 minutes you know I'll send you the piece there's so much vomiting [ __ ] crazy days of vomiting that canot be good for you well you got to think though man if someone's hooked on Heroin anything they'll take anything to get them out of that I've watched people slip into addiction several times in my life and it's it's just like being uh turned by a vampire it really is it's a feeling that you've lost someone they they're slipping away they're slipping away from themselves from their family from everybody they're slipping away because of a a a compound some sort of a chemical it's really what a bizarre thing that we have this this this addiction quality you know we say that in the piece we say that this mother gives her son to these sort of New York Fruit Cakes nice guys but like weird guys who do sort of West African Voodoo uh uh you know when they when they administered the Ia gain and we were taking her son to Mexico to one of these clinics because we couldn't legally do it in America so we brought the whole crew down to Mexico to shoot it and it was like how bad is heroin that a mother is going to give her son to these you know crazy West African Voodoo X junky dudes to take off to Mexico and administer the strongest drug in the world to so he's going to puke and [ __ ] go nuts for two days that's how bad heroin is and that's what the government sells America [ __ ] yeah um listen man let's let's wrap this up and let you get some sleep all right you're the [ __ ] man dude anytime you want to do this anytime you're in town you uh you got a an open invite we'll we'll open this [ __ ] up at 4:00 in the morning for you whatever you want man you're [ __ ] awesome um continued uh safety and success in your travels and uh thanks for Illuminating giant parts of the world that I personally wouldn't have not I wouldn't have been aware of if it wasn't for you and what you guys are
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