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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day nice to meet you man you too man really a pleasure I've seen so many of your [ __ ] movies it's always weird when you meet someone that you've seen so many times in movies you know it's like all right there he is real person yeah there there they are that's I didn't know you do uh you You released a gospel album though yeah last uh last year that's wild yeah it's uh called Fallen a gospel record for Sinners because I wanted the biggest possible audience I gospel record for Sinners yeah how long you been singing gospel well you know basically I grew up at the Baptist Church and so it's five songs that I grew up with and it's five songs that I wrote before and during the making of the record it's kind of like my spiritual journey I guess that's the way it turned out the and my wife she put the uh order together and that's what it seems to be kind of my journey in life was this something that you had thought about for a while or did it just kind of yeah uh yeah I wrote this song uh called on my way to heaven and uh wrote it for my mom to let her know that I was okay after I got out of like rehab and for cocaine in 1990 and um then I uh then I wrote The Fallen which is kind of like taken from a remember that movie Thunder Road with Robert Mitchum you know it's kind of like in that vein or that that kind of feel to it and there there's this highway called The Devil's Backbone up near Bandera and so it's it's a ride with the devil and you wind up getting left for dead on the side of the road so this was just something that you felt like like [ __ ] i' I've done everything else why not do a gospel album yeah you know I've uh recorded I've always been a songwriter I got a guitar when I was 12 years old my grandfather bought me you know Western Auto it's a great place to buy guitars and uh uh you know I I realized I was never going to shred a guitar so I a songwriting became like a defense you know some you could bring to a band right and uh so I've always done it and uh but I got this offer from uh gather uh because they heard Bill gather had heard the song on my way to heaven asked
me to do a gospel record so said yeah wow yeah it was great experience really really and uh on my way to heaven in fact um Tanya Tucker heard it and she called me up out of the blue I hadn't seen her like in 30 years and uh said she wanted to do it so I I said okay and then she called me 15 minutes later and she said Chris Christ offen wants to do it whoa and uh I said wow you know so um and Brandy carlile's doing a a backup singing on it and uh it's and myself and we're going to put that out this year as a single wow that's awesome yeah Chris is just the greatest I love that guy I love him one of the highway men you know come on yeah no kidding wow so you were telling me that you you got to Hollywood in in the 70s yeah I went uh I went out there I was born in Houston you know and grew up there and uh I was in acting class uh Mr picket we always bring him up because he so many people actually started working my brother was you know his student as well and uh my brother was already out there in uh California you had been nominated for the last of tail and stuff so I kind of realized hey you can actually do this stuff you know get paid for it and uh I went out there at 75 and uh you know uh just driven and got an agent after about a year wow did you have any previous acting experience or is it something drama in uh in college I wasn't serious about it in uh High School I was going to be a veterinarian that's what I wanted to be um really yeah I was a vets assistant um up in East Texas I'd spent Summers up in East Texas you know in Jacksonville Frankton and uh the I worked for a vet when I was you know 145 and uh that's what I was going to do until one day we did like a house call out to this guy's Farm to castrate his horse and the farmer didn't want to sit out there in the field uh wait for him to wake up from a full anesthetic so they only they only gave him half of it and cinched his cinched his legs up like this and uh that horse stood up on two legs and it was just man it was horrific and that kind of uh I think that's what changed my mind maybe I should be an actor and I'll play a veteran the horse yeah I'm sure the horse was not enjoying that no that's yeah that's got to be a bad also as a man like I don't want to do that I don't I didn't do that to my
dog I don't do that to any of my dogs no you can get that done for free in California if right even if you're a person what the [ __ ] yeah very different in the 70s huh yeah yeah you went through like 70s in Hollywood must have been a weird experience man oh it was fantastic it was it was amazing man that that that whole era of the 70s you know which started with uh Bonnie and Clyde and and uh Easy Rider great films great films the French New Wave you know what they called it you know kind of more handheld grittier and it was the return of the the anti-hero and the rebel hero and cuz Hollywood had lost touch with their audience you know they were making movies like Toby Tyler and you know these bloated musicals which but and uh so it it became like the inmates had taken over the Asylum there was really new exciting stuff getting done like you know bad lands and uh the conversation and you know which led to the Godfather and it's uh that was I think the Golden Age of film making well certainly some amazing films came out of that era and it's just just seeing Los Angeles today and imagining what it was like in the 70s it had to be because I mean really movies if you really think about it they were only a few decades old back then yeah it's a new thing essentially you know yeah they just like perfected it I mean really it was only like 10 years into where uh all the movies were color they were making black and white movies up till like 63 you know right like the Hustler was black and white yeah that was 63 yeah yeah and uh it was an exciting time like like I said to the inmates to take it over the Asylum and it was a feeling like you could do just about anything and music too was really happening in Los Angeles as well I mean record deals were getting signed left and right and uh it you know there was this feel it's kind of turned upside down now because of all that rebellious attitude of the 70s and everybody did it sort of became the establishment I think yeah bizarre right it's it's really kind of turned up on its ear because it started to kind of really turn politically correct in the 90s and it it became kind of a nobody stays that a party after 11:00 you know no matter where is that
when you went to rehab no yeah after that no matter where you're going you know even afterwards you got to pretend you were going to bed you know you oh look at the time yeah oh look at the I guess everybody had kids too that by that point but then it just it got to where uh where we are today that you know you're getting warned to keep your mouth shut because of it it turned upside down you know well it's also one ideology dominates especially in Hollywood dominates the entire business you know one of the things that I said that drove me crazy about Hollywood was there's people that had differing opinions about things but they would never speak out because it could damage their career right going on now they will [ __ ] blackball you they will they tried you know there were a couple attempts to cancel me while we were making Reagan in fact you know uh kind of half-hearted I guess but uh it's it it has become that know and that ain't right I mean back then you know few people really were I guess conservative let's throw out parties and just call it conservative I mean you had John Wayne John vo uh yeah but even you didn't know if John boy was conservative back then he wasn't vocal about it not back in the 70s no and but it was basically John Wayne and Charlton hon right and that you that was pretty much about it but or anybody wearing a tie well how did the rebels become like what the [ __ ] happened how did the rebels become the establishment that's that is uh we went through an era where was remember was tolerance that was what we were trying to do like back in the teens I think and the tens where you tolerate other groups and all that and that didn't last very long and seems like one had it over the other but if you ask me were this Great Divide really started politically I think of course there was Watergate but you come up to like when the Republicans had their uh contract with America I think it was like 94 in you know the year that Clinton was going to be a a lame duck president they had that those midterms and um then it started to become just along party lines where there was no you know you were a traitor if you went to
the other side or because we had conservative um conservative Democrats we had Liberal Republicans up until that point you know that's what what I grew up with and uh that wasn't good enough anymore and so it started there and you know and then continued and the you know then the Democrats really took over and they really do it really well as far as as that stuff of turning things on their head and um uh you know they're I I feel like today they're you know they were using the judicial system uh against Trump which is really off the reservation well they're using the judicial system against Trump the entire media establishment other than Fox News is compl completely against anything Republican and it's full filled did you see on coar the other day uh Kristen Collins that her name yeah I saw that when she said when coar says Fox just reports or CNN just reports the facts the whole audience starts laughing yeah was that a laugh line yeah he goes well I guess it is I guess it is yeah which is hilarious people people get it oh they that's what you know bers me is that people do get it sometimes I think everybody just swallowing this there's a lot of people that are still swallowing a lot of Boomers a lot of older folks that are just swallowing whatever's in the newspaper and whatever's on television and a lot of people aren't news wonky like you and I you know they just get the sound bites and that's that's what they do it for and uh what's disheartening the more you do a deep dive on the actual facts about a thing you know like I've heard people repeat I've had conversations with people they go well you know Trump's a felon he's he's convicted 34 felonies I go okay do you know what those things are do you know do you know that they are misdemeanors misdemeanors do you know that that you know the statute of limitations had had run out on this little misdemeanor it wasn't a campaign contribution that they just did all kind of gymnastics to make it happen and then the third person in the uh in line in the Justice Department comes back to New York to oversee this case and uh you know just it's just incredibly it's incredibly dangerous because because it can also be turned around yes you know and there has to come a point
where we go stop yeah you know we have to we have to stop this or we're losing our country yeah I think they're more concerned with being impower than they are with preserving the idea of democracy that's yeah I totally agree with that and I think some of that was certainly they were emboldened by the fact they're essentially running the country without a president for last three years yes cuz he's you know he's not there not there really and since he's decided that he's not going to run again he's gone he's vanished it makes me who's running it now exactly you know and then the crazy thing is like that who's going to who's who'll be run it then because they I really can't see her like being in charge no that it's a figurehead that's all it is and what's really wild is the Babylon B had a hilarious uh little caption they said uh when I get in office I'm going to change things says the woman who's in office right now because she's in office she's talking about fixing all these things like hey from day one literally one I'm going to really do something about the Border says the borders are are essentially the president right now this is so [ __ ] crazy you'll be the president for five more months this is so nuts but yeah just she's flipped on everything except for plastic straws she still wants to get rid of those did did you see the thing where Trump came out and said that he was going to uh stop taxes for tips of hospitality workers and you wouldn't tax them on tips anymore yeah that was like a month and a half ago yeah and then she came out and said she's going to do it she's going to stop tips and everybody cheered as if it was her idea but here's the problem in 2022 she was one of the deciding votes go after people yeah that were not reporting their tips was that on the inflation reduction act or the green New Deal uh the well I think it was one of the same I right she was the she was the uh tiebreaker yeah exact so they're going to tax the business instead which in turn taxes the the workers that are there but it's hilarious that two years later she's acting like this is her idea now yeah like you had a chance you could have you could have swung it the other way two years ago yeah could have been right in
there or that you know was all the the brags she was the last person in the room when it came to the withdrawal in Afghanistan yeah and uh you know we left 87 billion of dollars of military equipment there we 13 soldiers that were killed and we we there's still people over there in hiding yeah and also the people that work with us all the people that work with us all the translators all the afghanis that helped us they're all [ __ ] well Trump had all that stuff he had he was doing it right he had that you know that meeting that he had with uh the Taliban leadership and where he uh what we're going to leave but if one soldier's head is touched we're going to be back and and just to show you how uh we can do it uh here's your address to they had a photograph of his house yeah they gave it gave it and uh that's when they went okay really the only thing I liked about Trump was uh everything that he did I would cringe at so much stuff that he said right but I think his his heart was really in the right place and not only that we we need a a really strong leader like that to deal with these [ __ ] that uh run the run the third third world the other world you know there some Bad actors out there yeah unquestionably and the wildest thing is that people are pretending that if he gets in office he's going to become a dictator as if he wasn't in office for four years and was never a dictator right like the whole thing is like we're just being gaslit and lied to on a scale that I've never seen in my life to the point where it's CNN on television saying that they support the news becomes a huge laugh right or that they just speak the news objectively yeah and uh it's it's incredible like I said that Democrats are really good at doing it because they say it's so boldface yeah yeah well they have so much money the thing have you ever seen the difference between Democrat donors versus Republican donors like there was a chart that someone made about the amount of people that donate to democratic party versus the amount of people that vote that donate to the Republican party it's shocking big donors big donors shock it's why it's completely turned upside down because it used to be Republicans who were known as
the fat cats and big oil and you know big business and all that would would uh would be the big supporters and donors of the Republicans and it was like those five and $10 donations of the democratic party because they're really a coalition of groups but then I think starting with Obama especially it it started with social media it really started to uh get into more of a corporate type of tech oligarchy that's is yeah Tech that's a great way to put it that's really what it is right it's a tech oligarchy the the tech thing's nuts because nobody anticipated that these corporations were going to have this insane amount of influence and power over people you know I've had this guy Robert Epstein on my podcast before I if you ever seen his work but he B basically does a statistical analysis of Google search results and what Google does to change people's opinions and how much of an effect it can have on swaying an election because if you go look for Trump rally you'll see a bunch of KLA Harris things if you go to try to find something negative about comma you'll find something all these positive things about KLA so these quick searches where which most people do most people aren't doing deep dies for hours where they're going and you know reading and finding other alternative sources of information they get information from a Google Search and that Google search if you can curate it and make sure that all the positive stuff about the people that you want is upfront and all the negative stuff about the people that you don't want is upfront you could shift people's opinions by 20 30% of course you can you know and it's with the algorithms that they have they already know your preferences and basically you who you are at a begin with yes and uh they can maneuver that way it's not should be it's not just the Russian we should have search results search results should be completely unbiased like that should be that should be a law because if you can curate searches if you can curate people's access to information and hide things that should be illegal that there should be nothing that has anything to do with political ideology when it comes to searching for information it should just be whatever the information is I completely agree with you because well for one thing is Ronald Reagan said
democracy can handle it yeah you know uh and yeah he was he testified before the hell subcomittee back back of the day you know House of unamerican activities and uh it said basically just let the Comm let the Communists go ahead and state their cause there it's okay to have a Communist party in this country because because the exchange of ideas and it everything will play out then democracy can handle it yeah but we're kind of excuse me we're kind of going through uh with Reagan right now the movie we're going through a um we're being uh censorship is happening to us uh through Facebook they have Facebook banned advertising and uh a lot of the podcast this one will probably be banned on Facebook uh as as well that's over the last couple of months really just because it's a is it a positive film about rean is that what they ideas that's bothering them it's a I see it as it's a it's a bio you know it's a biopic is really what it is it follows him from when he was a boy in Dixon all the way through when he said goodbye to the American people when he was diagnosed for Alzheimers you know after he was president and um it's a fight against communism you know which he fought all of his life and but they the reason being was that the the content and it was uh an attempt to sway an election a a movie I mean the last time I heard you know Reagan was on the ballot 40 years ago was was the last time do you think if you made a positive Obama movie it would be to sway an election well there was an Obama movie that came out during an election year in 2020 and you know nothing about that and to me I mean just the act of of banning or censoring that material as you were talking about is is an attempt to sway an election yeah and uh Reagan was a Democrat before he was a republican by the way as was Trump yeah yeah yeah yeah well it's since then Facebook has said they made a mistake oh they said it yesterday because we we uh put out a letter to it in an article on Newsweek and uh they said they made a mistake it was uh their automatic systems had detected it oh how convenient yeah I don't know what those automatic systems are but uh there was a mistake in that yeah I don't
understand it yeah I I I don't know what's going on over there if it's Rogue employees is the problem is like so many those people are so ideologically captured so many of the people that working for any tech company they're kids coming out of the universities they're all leftwing there's very few right-wing people involved it's a a tiny tiny percentage and they all feel like it's their Duty they feel like they're activists before they're even anything to save America yeah which is like from what totally drank the Koolaid yeah if you ask me yeah it's it's um that's what's unfortunate about the way Trump talks because the way Trump talks it it's easy to make him the enemy because he seems like a mean old rich man you know and so in their eyes that is that's everything that's wrong in the world yes they will go after you make fun of you personally or whatever yeah but he didn't those terms you see you know feels like a schoolyard bully or whatever but it's it's he's you know with uh you know all the things they did to Trump I do believe him when he uh as far as revenge and all that stuff that the uh success in the election would be his revenge yeah and I really believe that uh U if if it was Biden who was you know imp are going to jail or whatever I think Trump would pardon him tell you the truth I don't think he wants anybody to see a president in jail because that really changes our country well he has said that openly about Hillary like when he got into office there was a lot of people that were pressing him to prosecute her to go after her for the email thing for a lot of different things and he said no that'd be a terrible look it'd be terrible for our country the wife of the former president of the United States no way yeah and he didn't do it so all these things that people think he's going to do well he had the opportunity to do those things four years ago and they're thinking now they've done so many egregious things to him now with all the prosecutions and then the the years and years of Russia gate every [ __ ] newswork saying something yeah it started at day even before even before it got in it got into office you know they were but you know I wasn't I myself I wasn't going to vote for Trump I this time around I was
wanting them to find another candidate you know that would kind of calm things down a bit that's because that I thought that's what we need we need to to calm things down but then when they went after him with the judicial system uh uh these like stupid charges yeah yes but that uh that that's that's when things changed for me because then you're messing with the Constitution right and you we can't go back from that right after after something like that happens right and so that's why I'm jumping in uh all for Trump and the other thing is people need to understand that even if you hate Trump if you normalize weaponizing the judicial system against a political candidate that can be used against your party too exactly and if someone gets in like if the grandma Swami gets in or if Ronda santis gets in and he starts doing the same things that they did to Trump then we have chaos then we're [ __ ] a Banana Republic we're Venezuela where you you can go down the line on how that works exactly yeah it's terrifying we're we're like The Last Hope for this whole idea of this experiment in self-government yeah reyal Reagan said uh that you know these freedoms that we take for granted they can be lost in a generation and I always thought well that's kind of really high talk and all that stuff but it's true it's true it's true and these are the craziest times yeah the craziest and and fascinating by the way that I've I've ever lived in it it I mean it makes the 60s look like a you know sandbox play yep yeah here they did well it's because Tech's involved and Ai and deep fakes and and just so much so many Shenanigans are going on simultaneously it's just it's a such a bizarre it's a great time for comedy so much [ __ ] to make fun of cuz it's almost like things that are real they're so funny they write themselves yeah it's true you can't make this stuff up it's so nuts the whole thing is so nuts and the fact that these people are so ideologically captured they can't recognize the danger of doing the things that they're doing in order to win and that you can't fix that stuff once you put it in motion and I I just don't I don't know how this is going to turn out but I'm I'm GL like if if this was a show I'd be like holy [ __ ] what a great show like the writing on the show is [ __ ] incredible no
kidding Cliffhanger that's for sure yeah the assassination attempt him going fight fight fight putting his fist up like what the [ __ ] is this real this is crazy the whole thing's crazy and then not a press conference about the shooter not confence it's like not a month later it's how do they do it that that nobody remembers it right they well they memory hold it yeah memory hold it it's like it as if it never happened well there was so little reporting on how it happened how it could have happened who the who the shooter was they get to the kid's house and it's completely scrubbed he doesn't have any silverware in his home like someone was and you know his phone it takes him what a week and a half even to like open it oh we can't get into his phone yeah yeah strange you know my my son a 17-year-old son can get into your phone but they can't get into your they can't get well also the fact that this kid someone from outside the FBI's office in DC had been visiting on they they track the you know they have phone uh they have a ad oh right you know so they can change yeah they can your phone off that triangle it on the so there was a phone that was going from outside of DC to this kit multiple times so what what's going on this kid's training for a quite a while for over over a year it seems like he was involved in like shooting training and preparing for it's like he was being at least like 40 times they said uh I don't know how many times it quite a few it was quite a few yeah but the whole thing is very strange it's like how how is this not like a deep investigation that's on the front page of every newspaper where people are trying to figure out outrage from was this a government conspiracy to kill the presidential candidate yeah what happened right was it right go back to the Kennedy no go ahead I thought the moment he got shot in live and he goes fight fight fight I'm like it's over he's going to win this me too he's going to win this that's it put up his fist like that it's like and then next thing you know K Harris has one good speech and everybody's cheering and you're like wow it's just completely flip-flop all the talk shows everyone's with her a person who just a month prior was being hidden because she would say so many dumb
things and she would BL and every time she had to talk openly with no script she would blunder and [ __ ] things up now all of a sudden she's the perfect candidate yeah it's kind of wild it's super wild you know they did have and disenfranchised all those voters who had voted for Biden yeah you know if you're talking about democracy and then uh all of a sudden they have no say about it no primary there's no one no no one else gets to choose and they get the they use the FEC filing for Biden's money so like she gets to access that war chest so the whole thing's crazy the and the fact that no one's freaking out about the dangers of this and the fact that this is the first time ever that someone who nobody voted for nobody voted for in the primaries had zero delegates is now being the person who is at the front it was a point of H polls yeah like allegedly say with the polls like says who here's the thing about polls who the [ __ ] are you asking and who's who's talking to you the people that have the the like the least amount to do the people that are willing to answer polls the people that when you call them up say do you have a few minutes of my time like well yes I do most people say get the [ __ ] out of here and they hang up the phone the vast majority of people don't answer polls yeah so you have one point ahead of the people dumb enough to answer polls everybody else it's like we don't know and so that's why the gaslighting continues well let's put it this way though they've done a very good job because they do have uh the Republicans back on their heels about it oh yeah and I didn't think it was going to happen I didn't think so either I thought well leading up to it I thought he was going to steamroll Biden the the administration done a terrible job over the last three years The Border's wide open everyone's freaking out there's two Wars going on simultaneously that could lead us into World War III at any moment everybody's freaking out I'm like when Trump was in office there was no Wars there was no one new Wars there was nothing new that he was doing that was putting people in Jeopardy and then all of a sudden it was this [ __ ] complete total turnaround orchestrated by the media and it
happened right in front of our eyes and now kamla is this darling of everybody it's like this is wild like the least popular vice president of all time is now one of the most popular presidential candidates of all time like that incredible and uh you know they're going to what we're talking about right now we're going to sound like conspiracy theorists oh yeah yeah yeah yeah well I'm used to that yeah I'm just getting used to it I'm super comfortable with it super comfortable with it one of Reagan's uh greatest uh phrases in my opinion is uh the nine most terrifying words I'm from the government and I'm here to help I'm here to help yeah it's like it's so true like these people are just like any other person in any position of power they want to maintain power and they want to make as much money as possible it's in every corporation when corporations get in trouble for lying about their products it's the same thing it's the same thing in every business you got a risk management you that they show up at at the door and and uh you know it's amazing how the the times today are so much like the when uh Reagan was elect that you know we had inflation you know without the we had 20% interest rates I I remember that cuz I bought a house actually dur during that time there was a feeling of malaise in the country that uh Carter even spoke of you know we had hostages in Iran I mean we have hostages over there in Israel in the Gaza Strip that nobody's even speaking about how's how's that possible Right where's the outrage on that at and uh you know and uh it's so much like that time and Reagan came along and said you know we're going this way that we're not a nation in Decline like we've been told that we are today and you know America came back from that I still have really great faith in the American people when it when it comes uh down where the rubber meets the road I have a great faith in a certain percentage of the American people yeah I think there's certain percentage of am people who vote I yeah I hope so I think there's a certain percentage of the American people that are living in a movie they they have no real understanding of all the mechanisms that are involved that make this world work and why it's working in the way it's working and what
the dangers are of it they just they just there's so many people that are they only fed by the mainstream media which is completely corporate controlled yeah they don't know what's going on in a sound bite that's all it that's all it is sound headlines I've been an independent all my life really you know I voted for Carter I voted for Reagan twice I voted for Ross perau I voted for Clinton once uh you know I voted for Bush once I vot voted for Ross pero too yeah I voted for uh I voted for Obama once and I the second the second election of that one I sat out because the were I just didn't have a choice but uh you know what I voted for Trump the first time because I went in there and it was Hill or Trump or Jill or Trump and I voted for Trump and voted for him again but I've always believed like in the pendulum of of politics and culture and and the world about what is it that we need right now and in fact Republicans and Democrats need each other they keep each other from going too far one way or the other and you know our nation is based on compromised which winds up being of the best way forward not everybody gets what they want but the important stuff it shakes out in the end yes but that that doesn't seem to be the way things are working right now or maybe it maybe it is in the overall picture but I just can't see it well I think what happened was I don't think in 2016 they ever anticipated that Trump was going to win all the projections were that Hillary was going to win by a landslide that was all the polls that was all the things he saw on television and then when Trump started winning on television you could see it in the look of the faces of the pundits the people that were on TV that were calling the the election they were baffled they couldn't believe it and then when it was over there's that famous uh video of the lady with the sock hat and the glasses in the street on her knees going no you see that like when when it's announced the glass ceiling still existed had not been broken oh it was crazy times and then what's really funny is right after that Jim Brewer had a great joke about this that there was those women March those marches because you know Trump had said that grab him by the [ __ ] thing and like he's anti-woman
so there's these women marches and Jim Brewer goes isn't it funny they knew what a woman was then yeah which is crazy cuz that was only 2016 2016 there was no trans women this that that kind of conversation was not on the table at all the me too movement all of that just completely gone out the window it in favor of what 0 point 000000 Z Point whatever of the population I know it's nuts and it's also it's like now women's sports are in Peril because now you're having biological men with mental disease mental disorders competing as women saying that they're women women winning weightlifting events wi winning cycling EV the boxer the Italian boxer the Box are compli be really dangerous I have nothing against against Str people I was in the drama Department you know I was a drama mama you know most of the drama Department was gay and stuff it it grew up in that way I used to uh used to play play golf with Caitlyn you know back when it was Caitlyn or Bruce when he back when he was Bruce it just be us because surewood it was very there weren't many people around just you know I love the guy and I when he came came out like that I was really happy for him to tell you the truth because to have to like carry that around with what you feel inside that's really important yeah you know but that doesn't mean that the entire nation has to like flip over and change to uh accommodate right that yes there could be uh a mall for you and you know in fact our system already accommodates everybody yes it does yeah it does but uh I just don't like being beat over the head and told what to think and what to feel and uh to pretend this and pretend that no no it's terrible it's terrible for everybody and it's just this very loud vocal minority that's very invested in pushing this agenda and everybody else is just go scratching their heads and going what the [ __ ] and if you have a daughter that is to do some sort of a sport and there's trans athletes on that team like Jesus Christ like this why title dime was created in the first place like to give women an opportunity to compete with women exactly say you can't say I feel like a woman so I'm a woman and I'm going to compete with women with all the male biological advantages like we're you want to talk
about science denying there's your science denying right that's you're denying biological science yeah a man just by his body mask can hit three times harder yeah than than a woman you know in that Olympic match I mean she's the the the girl stopped after like 45 seconds that's a different story that person has a disease that male boxer who was allegedly male who's allegedly has XY chromosomes there's a there's a complicated issue with that this is like a genetic disorder that this person has where they have very high testosterone and allegedly have XY chromosome they should do chromosome I mean this is one of the things do you know what the enhanced games is uh I think I know what you're getting at the enhanced games they're putting together this new form of athletic competition it's going to be this enormous event where they're going to let people take performance-enhancing drugs but and so I asked them I had them on the podcast I said what are you going to do about trans athletes they said I think we're going to go along chromosones so if you have XY chromosome no matter what you're competing with other people that have XY chromosones males people who grw went through male puberty that's it end of discussion now socially I'll call you a woman I'll call you whatever your name it you want to be called I don't care at all but if you want to compete athletically we're going to pretend that the shape of the hips the density of the bones size of the lungs size of the heart the ability to react quicker all these different advantages that we know exist MH that that's this is stupid right and this is now you're putting ideology instead of ahead of facts and ahead of Science and ahead of the the biological reality we know about the advantages that men have yeah ideology it's like it's like don't look behind the curtain yes it's like Oz you know don't look over there it's people that don't have religion is what it is and they have a new religion and that religion is this woke ideology that is they're they're acting that way the same way uh a religious zealot would act yeah I yeah complete with the doctrine and everything that goes with it to to spout and there is no argument there is no exchange of of ideas right exactly well they can't
debate because if you debate about it then the facts outweigh their ideology you look at the biological facts of this stuff it outweighs the ideology and then you look at the transitioning children I mean have you ever seen of these interviews where people go up to people and they say um do you think that a child of 12 years old is old enough to get a tattoo no no no no no do you think you know they they start ask do you think they're old enough to know their gender yes yes oh that oh that okay puberty blockers are fine literally chemical castration drugs that were used on pedophiles in the past those are fine those are fine to give to kidsus yeah yeah the whole thing is having no say about it yeah yeah I think people in a way do know their gender when they're young in a way maybe later they look back and realize that they were that way when you know they were either gay or or uh from you know a a a place of hindsight in a way but to to let someone who you know under at least 18 really I mean even in 18 I I didn't how much do we really know ourselves how influ go back right from and people are very easily influenced very yeah and if they're taught by the people around them that they get positive reinforcement if they go in a particular direction people do that I mean how many [ __ ] Hollywood kid how many people in Hollywood have trans kids and how is that possible all of a sudden there's an epidemic of it how is that possible yeah how is it possible is it just the openness it's always been there or is it that this is some sort of a [ __ ] mind virus and these people are being influenced by the positive reaction they get from saying that they're lbgt Q2 plus AI whatever the [ __ ] it is now it's like there's there's a social contagion going on and there's an aspect of that that's real yeah these are educated people yeah we're talking about well that's what's nuts right but educated people that are not paying attention to this thing called gender dysphoria that has always existed well how do you think we get back how do you think we get back to being able to have an exchange of ideas and and not just you know try to put the other one in jail or try to dismiss them from society it sounds ridiculous but I
think the only way is to do what we're doing right now and to continue talk about it as reasonable people and have people listen to it and it shapes people's opinions of things they go yeah they're making sense it is reasonable and to pretend that these psychological conditions there's a psychological condition called autophilia where men get sexually aroused dressing up as women and but they're usually attracted to women so now these men are pretending that they're lesbians so they're calling themselves lesbians and they're getting on lesbian apps and lesbians are [ __ ] now because now these these men that are pretending to be lesbian that are occupying these lesbian apps haveed their agenda and if you don't want to date them then you're transphobic and they'll attack you and it's like holy [ __ ] these are the people that were perverts in the past and now all of a sudden they're part of a protected class it's very strange it's very strange and it's not good and it's not sustainable and I don't know when people are going to fully recognize the harm that they've done to all these children that they've had masectomy and forced these [ __ ] drugs on that killed their body's ability to produce testosterone and they they try to say that they're reversible there's not there's no [ __ ] reversing damaging someone's puberty that's not true if you put puberty blockers in a boy that is not reversible is not true not only is it not true there's a tremendous amount of evidence that shows that there's significant danger to taking those drugs there's blood clots and strokes and all sorts of other and then there's the fact that it's not natural it's not natural none of it's natural right even injecting them with estrogen like to so they could be their true self if you're your [ __ ] true self chemicals are not involved it's not injecting chemicals they not involved in maintaining your true self that's nonsense and it's a crazy sort of a leap a mental leap that you have to have to make that well we've got to get we've got to get back to a place I mean I look back at the 60s and you know we we've always been kind of a Nation at least in this Century of experiments you know that uh that go on as you know as a society as a whole you
know you had the flower children of back then of and that whole counterculture sure the weather underg ground all that [ __ ] you know back then you knew who the leaders were it seems to be leaderless today you know you had either you had Abby Hoffman you had uh you the black pan we had Malcolm X you had you knew who Martin Luther King you had leaders of all these movements that you could have this dialogue with or this debate with uh and now it's who who who are the leaders of black lives matter who are the lead leaders and spokesmen for uh this whole trans movement that's going on you know and some of it is it's it is political and but where are the leaders for thatmore well I think the leaders are the tech businesses yeah I think that's what it is I think the tech businesses have become a deao form of government yeah yeah the only to me that the only motivation could of of that could be control 100% first to control the bottom line you know of of the money but then you know the more people that you get have kind of you know acquiesced control over the you then the more your bottom line is going to go on and then it's about power yeah and you know I think we've been shown in this uh getting back to what we were talking about before that that really is what is going on uh and what was going on in 2020 if you ask me with with uh the tech companies deciding to uh you know what we were going to see and what we were going to hear and it's it pretty much exposed yeah and dangerous it is dangerous and it's um we're not we're not prepared for that influence we we didn't know it was going to exist before there's no laws in place to keep it in check which is why Google's allowed to curate the search results and and why they're allowed to censor conservative voices on social media and in fact the one of the things we found out like thank God for Elon Musk because if musk had not bought Twitter we would not have known the extent of the government's meddling into information distribution we would wouldn't have known they were literally trying to get them to ban legitimate news stories and they were successful with the hunter Byron laptop story but other legitimate conservative perspectives and points of view and
people that were legitimate doctors and scientists that had questions about the way we were handling the pandemic which also turns out to be true yeah which also 100% turned out to be true and then when it there is no kind of okay we were wrong about this and this you know they just kind of dismiss it I got into a conversation with a guy he like well you know what about these are not ideological issues that you you you're talking about when it comes to Medicine especially everything gets turned into a political that's what's crazy that vaccines and pharmaceutical drug companies became a democratic liberal perspective like supporting that like these corporations that have the biggest criminal fines in the history of medicine it's all the fact these companies these these pharmaceutical drug companies for doing things that were illegal they were fine billions of dollars and people still wholesale bought everything they said and if you disagreed you were some sort of a fringe conspiracy theorist who was a danger to everyone around you and right I know a little bit about that because my from when my twins were overdosed when they were 12 days old with Hein uh in in a hospital turned their blood to the consistency of water and uh they were off the measurable scale in fact for Co coagulation of their blood for more than 48 hours and it was scariest moment of our lives but really about what I learned about uh we did not Sue the hospital it was a you know a human error in that but it it was the drug company also which was got of liable and that the the 10 milligram unit the 10 unit bottle that the kids were supposed to get was light blue and the the adult was dark blue and that was 10,000 so they got 10,000 three times oh my God yeah it was it was horrific but after that you know was it uh I I testified before Congress in the oversight committee there uh you know about what had happened and as far as the drug compan it's impossible to sue the drug companies uh just about it's very difficult or to get get them to to change anything they're all located for the most part in Illinois and they have that system wrapped up but uh it's you know everybody at the FDA I'm going to
say everybody but there's so many people at the FDA positions that are either uh former employees of drug companies or future employees of future is more likely right because they know there's a Golden Basket waiting for them at the end of this ex so to get any kind of uh that's that's wrong in itself and to get anything real done uh is is clouded you know by self-interest yeah so um what happened you know during Co was you know that's they still these boys that are you know dropping dead you know at 17 of heart attacks and uh it's people don't trust their government anymore well that's out there the same it was back in the late 70s before that election people didn't since Watergate hadn't trusted their government really bizarre now is that even with the all the evidence of these people dropping dead the people that are around the people dropping dead are in denial about it because they all advocated for a very specific thing and when that very specific thing may be causing a bunch of deaths they don't want to take credit for it they don't want to be in trouble for it they don't want to be beholden to their to this idea that they had the pharmaceutical drug companies were telling you the truth and that this is the only way out of this and if you didn't do it we're all going to die and everybody went into this with this terrible fear and because they stated that early now they're committed to it and they they're defending it because it's a part of themselves their ideas are a part of themselves and so you're see like the this if you've look at the just if you look at what insurance companies are dealing with now with excess deaths that's some of the best data that we have there excess mortality and the excess mortality is extraordinary at any other time in history if there was a thing that was rolled out where all the sudden everybody's taking it and all of a sudden you have this amazing increase in excess deaths and Cancers that are what they're calling turbo cancer and if you listen to Peter McCulla he explains how this could be causing that that the MRNA vaccines could be causing these turbo because it actually changes our our
molecular structure down to you know the chromosomes and the DNA that that it's it's uh it's a man-made thing which is affecting our body in a bad way yeah and it's killing people that took it that were advocating for that were tech people there's tech people that are dropping dead left and right and there's still they're still on this bandwagon and they're still letting the CDC saying you should vaccinate anyone Under 12 like what the [ __ ] are you talking about right what are you talking about this is insane it wasn't it was never dangerous for kids my kids got it and they were over it in a couple of days it was nothing yeah I I got the vaccine twice I had to when we were we were uh when we were doing Reagan we were shooting the movie so it was uh still at that point and it was required in order to work did you have any side effects um no but you know I do know and I I actually got Co when we were uh shooting Reagan during the assassination scene actually oh really no we were working in a basement and we had like 50 extras you know and it was just oh of course it did just about everybody got it but I I I had a bad I was lucky it hit my it hit me in the guts instead of the lungs and I I had 104 temperature for uh a couple of nights but uh you know I was over it in a couple of weeks and then you know getting the vaccine I did have kind of a reaction to that like a little mini version but I've noticed that when I have get a cold now it's harder to get over everything's a little bit harder to get over now yeah and I don't think it's just me as you know friends of you know we talk about it and the the same thing is going on just uh and you know it coming from China and all that you know what could have happened is could have been an exchange a real exchange of how it had really happened uh and what what the process was of of how it happened to make sure that it doesn't happen again or to during the research of the the vaccine to to put that out where uh you could have helped there as well there's no it just winds up being you know everybody lines up on the side of ideology exactly I mean I wonder you know if if uh Trump does come into office are they going to say oh I won't take Trump's vac vaccine again well that's how it wasla Harris was saying
yeah she was saying I'm I'm not going to take his vaccine when it comes out then as soon as they got got into office they the very same vaccine they said yes you should we should take our vaccine yeah it's nuts yeah yeah very bizarre that that's one of the things is so interesting because we have more access to information now than we've ever had in all of human history and yet people are more divided by ideology than they are by facts than any other time in history a lot of it has to do I think with with cable news too people have have uh you know separated themselves I myself I watch all of them you know on on Direct TV there's Channel 200 where you got like six boxes up there you you can watch all the news and it flipped back and forth and it's like watching a different story right a completely different story where you going somewhere in the middle there is is the real thing one of my favorite moments was when Joy Reed was comparing Biden getting covid and to Trump getting shot yeah like yeah he got over Co right he got over Co no he got over 2024 Co which is basically a [ __ ] cough yeah and Reagan I mean excuse me Trump got shot in the [ __ ] head yeah it only grazed his ear but that was just a miraculous turn of the head at the exact right moment in shrapnel actually or you know maybe it kicks up and dust up I don't know I'm just starting something new well there's a literal photo of the bullet passing by his head yeah you know so but there were a lot of people that denied that he even got shot they were saying actually there was three that came very close to him one was just an inch away from from that one too and uh man you know if his head had blown up there in front of everybody what Civil War yeah yeah it could have very very well been Civil War I afraid I'm afraid it could have been yeah there's those Trump people would have [ __ ] loaded up their pickup truck you think they would have done a more thorough investigation now if it if he no no because that's listen this is Lee Harvey Oswald all over again but less complicated or actually more complicated right because this is a very young kid how did they get to him we don't know anything about him we know why he was willing to do this we don't know what we we also know he's a registered
Republican which is crazy well you know one could be swayed from that sure sure especially at 20 you know like who [ __ ] know dangerous and they're going to have to get you know another Republican in there just you know but uh yeah I've been reading this uh unspoken I forgotten the author's name uh but it was U endorsed by uh RFK Jr uh you know about the assassination of of U his uncle you know the President John Kennedy and it takes every piece of information that is known and puts it in a book and tells a story from it and it it was our government I think that uh came to that killed that killed Kennedy and you know through the CIA can you know the dark Forces within within our government and if that can happen then how about today how much of course yeah sure who's running things you the only thing you can draw is um conclusion you can draw is it's it's it's got to be something like that only I can't I can't understand why the CIA would uh want us out of Afghanistan that way or or you know why uh all the other stuff is going on but I guess again that's for control yeah it's for control but it's also so multi-layered and so hard to figure out what's going on I mean we know that they had MK Ultra in the 1960s they did mind mind control experiments on people yeah and the idea that they just stopped that is silly yeah that's silly they went further that's that's how we got all those other drugs that yeah turned up at parties right well it's part of it there was a what was that this guy Norman oler he wrote um about uh drugs during the Third Reich and about how they experimented with uh LSD on concentration camp prisoners yeah and all the stuff that they were giving Hitler like while he was in the middle and all the suu they were getting the Nazis they were giving the Nazis meth yeah they were all on meth it was crystal meth in fact uh that uh that's what they were so fanatical in going out there and staying up for days I mean that was essential to the blitz Greek you can't stop and take a nap over that got rolling down the road like a trucker yep wild out of their [ __ ] minds and he was Norman was explaining that they had different levels of meth that they would give to the people at
the front lines like the guys that ran the tanks had the most meth so they were just jacked out of their [ __ ] mind just storming through the night and then the French were drinking wine they're just like hanging out drinking they were they got like a liter of wine a 3/4 of a liter of wine a day as a ration so they're drunk in the streets and then the Nazis come through on meth which is a way better drug for war yeah they just went right pastal line like like nothing flat [ __ ] nuts man nuts three days through Poland the whole thing is insane but that they took that Knowledge from the Nazis and they started applying it and then they started using some of those drugs and using these MK Ultra experiments and the idea that they stopped that and they don't do that now well what happened with this I did they do an autopsy did they find there's any chemicals in this kid's body we don't know we haven't heard a [ __ ] peep we hav not heard a single press conference the first thing that I would have done besides like try to figure out how the [ __ ] this kid was on the roof for 30 minutes without anybody doing anything how how he got a rifle there how he got a ladder there how the snipers didn't shoot him how they didn't go up there and and take him out before this happened Secret Service was supposed to be in those windows I mean they had a you know a fantastic look at him but they were downstairs drinking coffee or whatever the the hell they were doing well not only that a lot of those people were Department of Homeland Security they weren't even Secret Service weren't even lined up and who runs the Department of Homeland Security same guy think orc it's nuts because I would have want to know what that kid was on I guarantee there was some sort of psychotropic medicine involved there's something involved I do not think if you're going to let's let's assume that someone trained him told him how to do this let's assume this wasn't a young 20-year-old kid with very sophisticated detonators and remote controls and all these different things that we know that he possessed had this rifle brought the rifle onto the roof the also why did he have iron sights that's that's baffling to me who was his who was this gun instructor teaching there were a lot of
federal officers over there went to training I'm not saying that any of them were like you know the ones they probably no idea what he was going to do anybody in this country we have the Second Amendment anyone can go and learn how to shoot a gun yeah it's uh you know there's courses you can take I've taken them you could you can go and learn how to shoot guns exactly but you know you wind up having kind of a mentor with things like that it's just like learn how to fight box you know you're going know you wind up having somebody kind of becomes your Mentor you know and that's how you get kind of indoctrinated into right where's that guy where is that guy yeah you know the kid was really smart he won all the science fairs from what I understand so he was he was very Adept at all that but it's to uh to get into the there's still some stuff supposedly that's encrypted that they can't touch like you know with sources over to Europe and or whatever what they're saying it I mean I don't know what I'm talking about that with that because it's only been inferred but what are they doing why just INF why are they not still on it like a daily thing with like uh Nightline uh daily uh reports about it why didn't they test his blood yeah why didn't they tell us whether or not he was on any kind of medication yeah were they ties to Iran or or to China or to Russia or to Venezuela but where how's it just memory hold yeah it's crazy yeah it's crazy the whole thing's crazy and then there's like allegations of second gunman which is always the case with any kind of assassination course the thing that would have been horrific If he if he had won if he had successfully shot Trump if he killed him and then they killed him that would have been it yeah he would have no idea what happened and they probably would have memory hold it all the exact same way they did it now and then they would have said the country has to heal and move on right and yeah our long National nightmare is over and language like that you know what if he what if the kid just been wounded right I don't think he would have made it to jail alive they W going to Mo they had a clear shot on that I just I'm just amazed that they let him get off those shots that's just the
craziest thing to me that they knew he was there you see him running across the roof while Trump is speaking he had a [ __ ] Rangefinder yeah like like using golf yeah yeah they quite us an archery yeah they he wanted to know what the yardage was so he could hold for a particular height right and but I don't understand the iron sights thing the only thing that makes what are iron sights okay so rifles either have a scope which is a magnification scope which is extremely accurate but you have to adjust it or they can have iron sights and iron sights are like oh you have a pistol you have a pistol oh between forks in the back two those are called iron sights he did I I I thought he did have a scope he didn't believe he did I don't believe he did see if that's been proven because there's a photograph of the gun and the gun it looks very clear from the photograph that it does not have a scope on it scope is you know it's a large tube that sits on the top of the rifle and you you have to adjust that scope it takes a little doing to even attach that does it not I mean some can click in but I what imagine you really have to it's not that complicated you could do it and then you would need to go to a range and site it in the problem with a scope would be that if things are getting jostled around and knocked around if you bang the scope on something it can get moved just a fraction of a millimeter to the left or to the right and then your zero point at whatever he's got it zeroed at if it's 100 yards or 150 yards just the angle the angle gets yeah the angle the distance will get further away so you have to probably redo it I've had personal experience with that I was on a deer hunt I fell with a rifle and uh I fell going up a a snowy slope and uh the rifle got banged and my scope was off but like 6 in at 100 yards so I could see how maybe but that was because my scope wasn't tight somebody had not tightened it down properly I could see how maybe you would say iron sights because it's not that far of a shot because I've practiced with the iron sights I know the iron sights that it's not going to be it's one factor you can take out that is not going to be a variable right exactly well some competition Shooters the old school guys they don't like red dots because they
want to use iron sights because it's so reliable if as long as you can line it up correctly as long as you have proper technique and you're accustomed to it it's not going to move it's not going to go left or right whereas and you can actually see everything around you even better than than looking through a SC yeah but if you're looking through a scope you get magnification so you you can put that Crosshair right on face and then at 50 yards with a magnification and a scope that's on that's an easy shot that's really easy it's very easy especially in a prone position like he was on the top of a roof yeah but there's so many questions how the [ __ ] did they let him do that how' they let him get up there how what kind of security breaches involved and how about the lady who was in charge of Secret Service she didn't want to step down like they're questioning her the whole thing I mean she didn't even go to the site even a week later she went she went to you know before uh Congress to explain some things and she hadn't even been to the site yeah it's and the guy the guy the the head the head agent not being fired they you it's like he wasn't available for comment because he's still part of the you know he's still running the investigation this is the guy who's responsible for all this happening and he's the one that's running the investigation are you out of your mind the whole thing's crazy it's crazy and it's it's it's going to be footnote in history that people are going to be baffled by in the just like they're baffled by the JF JFK assassination they're going to he wasn't killed and his head didn't blow up in front you know in front of on National Television it's it's uh yeah it's just that it's just a footnote it's not like they got he missed that's all I could say I know they got he missed well who knows what would have happened to the country so there's the gun so I'm looking at that gun right now and that gun to me looks it has iron sights this is why I say that you see the handle at the bottom you see the magazine so the handle is in the far that's the magazine where you're at the F further one forward and the one behind it that's the handle and then you see above those are
iron sides so there's no scope on unless so that is kind of as far as regular sides go that's uh those are a little bigger than the regular siding on a it's an AR it is it's an AR rifle so it Ian maybe that's a Red Dot maybe it's a very a miniature Red Dot there in the middle above the magazine but it doesn't look like it it looks like what's that and it's not a scope someone on the that picture said that the the iron sights were set up at a 90° angle so like that it could be shot from prone so like Sideways from it's shot they I mean you had the you had the cops like carrying the rifle down the hallway so everybody the whole public could see it the murder weapon right and uh you know this is what Americans have have gotten used to they've gotten used to the idea that we're not allowed to see information uh that we have a right to see right as a public the country this country is supposedly we're the boss the people are and we deserve uh information so that we can make a decision about it yeah or we can have the people that we've elected make a decision about it by giving them the power to do so given to them by us right and now there we get uh information is either distorted or it's fake or it's just withheld yeah and you know withheld and like that's just the way things are people have gotten used to that idea yeah and that's how that's how we lose our country and uh our Dem our Republic right is that's how we lose it yeah see Google whether or not there's a definitive answer as to whether or not he had iron sights I can't found nothing that's so crazy that we don't know I don't know where to look either but I didn't find any updates did just Google this did the Trump shooter have a scope on his rifle 100% did it did Thomas kook's rifle have a scope and what does it say no I mean I have nothing I I would have found the answer and didn't wait from people they always kind of portray it you know in the uh in in the coverage after it was kind of at least at first portrayed as uh like a rifle with a scope in a couple of places I I I thought it did have a scope but uh it's possible that was a a very small miniature scope but like a red dot like on a pistol generally doesn't have magnification it's just
just the dot what was he doing with that here's another question those explosive devices I think which were in the car yeah what were they for right and how did he learn how to do that like where do where do you get those when you're 20 years old when you're 20 years old like I said he won science fairs I think he was you know quite Adept at uh at getting that info well would wouldn't we know that this kid had Google search how to use explosive devices and figured out how to get the detonators figured out how to wire it how he learned we don't know anything sure fertilizer bomb and all that's so what were they for right what were they he had to have an intent right for that right and you can figure it out even though he's he's not here you could figure out an intent you know certainly wasn't to get away otherwise he would have had him on him right do you think he thought he was going to survive I mean was it a suicide run for this kid that's why I want to know what drugs was he on we don't have any toxicology report on this kid right which is crazy that is crazy they have it for every school shooter yeah the go the people are entitled to know the toxicology report they Jim balushi died right and they told everybody his toxicology report right within you know three weeks for for to come he died of it right he died of an overdose still I'm still I'm talking about the right to privacy versus versus the Public's right to know yeah well in this particular I situation the right to know is imperative like you have to is there something that was given to this kid that made him do something that insane because there are things that they can give you that will completely distort your understanding of reality and which is why they gave the Nazis meth yeah you know this is the the whole reason for it because you you would do wild [ __ ] when you're hopped up on amphetamines yeah you can give somebody clopin and and and start this anxiety and you know you don't know whether you're you could make one decision one minute angst about it the the next right and be very influenced right there's all uh but uh also the idea that we know all the psychot Tropic drugs that the government is experimenting on that's
ridiculous too well guarantee I experimented with him a couple of what would you not all of them since 1990 of they got some stuff coming out now what I hear well you got off the C train at the exact right time you know because now it's you're rolling the dice with f fentanyl but uh um it's it's uh you know it hasn't always been like this the way you're you and I are talking and it's been a very very long time since it seems that Common Sense uh prevailed in the end in this country and uh I so want it back I for not just I and I'm not even talking about having everything go the way I want it to go I you know it's to get back to a time when whoever was in the White House and who and at least we were a people that could at least agree 70% of the time and I think we are a people that agree 70% of the time as a whole but it that's impossible now right we're being manipulated too much and most people are just not Savvy enough to understand the effect of this manipulation you know which is I think that's a big factor we're experiencing there's just a lot of people that are aren't even aware of all the things that we're talking about there's a lot of people out there that think oh Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone lone gunman crazy guy well I thought that for a very long time myself really yeah you know after you know after about 12 15 years you know it started to sound like conspiracy theories to me and stuff and then I completely switched over again because of because of evidence really that's coming out and I uh I really want to see the rest of the the files and why are they not releasing the files I know Trump released a bunch of them but I guess people living yeah that well there's also the complete erosion of faith in the intelligence agencies if if it turns out that the CIA did Kill JFK or that they were involved in the killing of JFK and it could be proven which is what Tucker Carlson's been saying if that is the truth that would be I mean it would throw the whole country into a tail spin we wouldn't know what the [ __ ] to do because if you really found out that in 19 1963 they organized an assassination
on the president pulled it off killed them lied to the public published this [ __ ] War warant commission report uh tried to pass off this nonsense of the Magic Bullet all that stuff all that stuff well John Foster Dallas who ran the CIA you know they had been they just pulled off one a a month before with DM in South Vietnam where the you know he was assassinated and Kennedy was shot and then the the Warren report he was the head of the CIA was the head of the of the D Alan d yeah Alan Dallas of the I said John Foster Allan Dallas was was the head of of the Warren Commission which is nuts cuz Kennedy had fired him yeah fired him because that he was doing things behind his back and so then that guy becomes the head of the Warren Commission report and then Gerald Ford also on the Warren Commission report then takes over when Nixon gets kicked out of office right and then you find out through I mean Tucker carlett explained it to us that the whole Nixon thing was essentially uh an FBI CIA op to get Nixon out of office and Nixon was apparently like very interested in finding out who had shot JFK they lab and also the Vietnam war that was going on the CIA was very that in fact that's kind of where it started along with the Bay of Pigs uh which Kennedy inherited that was Operation going on but the Cuban Missile Crisis was another one so Kennedy having actually SE uh a secret dialogue with kusf that was going on that I guess today they would call collusion I don't know but uh they were making great progress in that but Vietnam he had he had gotten the the Russians to agree to make La a neutral country in that and there were uh we had American GIS you know even before it was an actual War which it never was but uh getting killed over there and Kennedy was wanting to do the same thing with Vietnam have it be a a neutral country and was making progress with kusf in a way towards that but the cia's um involvement over there they you know open they openly and uh were the Joint Chiefs uh in in meetings Kennedy had lost control of of his of The Joint Chiefs and and and and decisions that were being made there they were totally going against him and I if I believe too that it was the CIA
that took him out because of their agenda and uh the mood that was in the country it's crazy the whole thing's crazy it's crazy to look back on it and think about it and even the fact that we we know now for a fact that the Gulf of tonan incident was a false flag yeah which is what got us into Vietnam in the first place and that no one went to jail for that yeah when when Johnson came in I don't think Johnson had was involved in in the assassination of Kennedy but when Johnson did come in you know he had a different kind of uh uh bend on that and said you guys will get your War right after you know the election is what he told the Joint Chiefs because they really wanted it and uh you know lo and behold after he was elected then Gulf of tonen incident happens way you go way you go yeah it's wild and then we're dealing with uh a more sophisticated much better concealed version of that apparatus right now yes that's what that's where that's what this book really got me to thinking okay if all this was going on then how much more sophisticated is it now right especially after 9911 when we just handed them the keys to be able CIA was created by Truman they haven't just been around it was created by Truman and they were supposed to be do you act as you know foreign agents in other countries and uh they were basically given you know like James Bond license to Kill uh and do what also the license to lie before Congress uh they were given to keep things as secret as they could and Truman gave came to like not even a year after he' created it came to regret it that he'd even created that that office because of it turns into a government within a government that is you know deciding that has its fingers in every pie especially you know the military yeah and um uh it's dangerous place Kennedy himself was you know uh wanted to get rid of the CIA in fact and um so later after 911 we just really gave them the keys to the kingdom because they were you know you're allowed in the Homeland to do the same thing and then the Patriot Act and ndaa all those different things that gave them the ability to spy on people and then what we found from Ed Edward Snowden about
the NSA and all of it it's just wild stuff man and most people aren't even aware of it that's really crazy you know go to what we were told about with irq before we went in there and the weapons of mass destruction right and the like you know which everybody believed yeah no matter what side you were on right so uh it's pretty crazy and it's literally what Truman was warning everybody about when he left office yeah that famous speech about the military-industrial well that was Eisenhower I'm sorry Eisenhower came in and G and gave that same speech and had a meeting with Kennedy about the Beware of the military industrial establishment especially Eisenhower because he was such a respected person so for him to say that but it was one of those things that you say it on television people hear it and then you never saw it again because it wasn't the time where there was the internet it wasn't there was no one watching that clip on YouTube saying what the [ __ ] is heing what was he talking about exactly yeah well Kennedy's uh speech at the American University which was about peace and and about this you know the Soviet Union and the and United States you know learning to live together in fact he The Test Ban Treaty uh came out of that which was hardly covered in the news actually back then because uh everybody was so Pro War I mean I grew up you know we were getting under our our school desk yep like at least once every two weeks in case of a nuclear war it was going to happen I lived within the circle of zoning housted there that the you know the Cubans were going to send send the missiles I got kept home from school it was happening we we lived with that until you know uh Reagan the pope and Le valenza along with Margaret Thatcher ended the ended the Cold War yeah and uh you know it's but I digress I remember those days I remember those days in school where they would make you do drills and then would play videos showing you how to get under your desk if that's going to protect you from a [ __ ] nuclear bomb yeah a desk yeah that's uh we were terrified like we grew up with an existential fear of a nuclear war with Russia yeah and it was it was it was real there was about a 90%
chance that it was going to happen in the especially during the 60s and then again uh with uh during the Carter Administration and and into uh into Reagan because we' we'd appease them we' given them away given away so much and they were building their military up and it was it really was a like a chess game but there was a very there was a Hawk Pro warar that uh you know Sur survivability after a nuclear attack was a big topic sure that's talk Strange Love yeah like Curtis lame you know one of the Joint Chiefs you know who was a big Abal during uh during World War II and ran the Pacific Campaign basically but you know he was saying well you know we could survive this you know 50 million people yes would be killed but we will survive survive to what that was the mentality is that crazy that's how much they wanted to defeat communism right and it's literally a comedy in Doctor Strange Love Him explaining that yes is literally a comedy cuz people are like what yeah yeah yeah I encourage anybody to watch Nation man Drake yeah it's crazy they were like well we might lose 50 million people we'll be okay we'll still have a hundred yeah we might lose a third of the country cuz back then it was probably that was probably the population right it was probably 1 15 mil it was about 150 million back then so a third gone plus they yeah and Strange Love it's such a great movie to still watch you they they had the tunnels they had built ahead of time Y and it I think it was like eight females to every uh to one male so we can continue to make babies rep we repopulate very quickly what the [ __ ] or how about no war guys how about that is that possible is it possible to just [ __ ] make friends with everybody Jesus Christ can we all get along it's big ass world yeah is there a way to do this without killing hundreds of of people you [ __ ] idiots yeah Rodney King actually he was right can't we all just get along that's the first thing it comes up in my mind these days yeah can't we all just get along yeah yeah is't that nuts Rodney King voice of reason yeah yeah voice of re and Ronald Reagan well yeah Ronald Reagan if you listen to his speeches today he's incredibly reasonable I mean we were
told like I grew up in a very liberal household and Reagan was the bad guy like everybody hated Reagan and trickled down economics it's bad for the country it's a bunch of greedy people yeah let them control the you listen to him talk now you know one of the great speeches he gave in front of the UN it it really got all the crazy UFO conspiracy theories those those guys went nuts because he said how quickly we would put aside our differences if we were face from an alien threat from outside this world it's a great perspective cuz it's so true it's so true we come together like that yeah and we should be a community on on a planet and it is possible in an alternative Universe with with different circumstances that we could have evolved into a community and it's possible I think in the future if if big Tech and these ideologies don't get a hold of us we can communicate as individuals and realize that most of our differences are [ __ ] and most of what's going on is the Battle of control over resources and If instead human beings had the ability to communicate with each other and have real true access to information and know exactly what's going on and be able to relay what their concerns and needs are most people just want to be happy instead of keeping secrets yes you know it's the keeping of Secrets you know from them it's us and them I mean Kennedy himself was he was he wanted to for the Russians to the Soviets to join our space program and had do a joint venture to send a man to the Moon that's where he'd come to with this was during the the testband uh treaty because you know it's the rocket secrets and all the rest of that stuff but if can you imagine putting their minds and our minds together yeah and doing this as a joint venture there would have to be relinquishing of Secrets because it's military that's why of course it they wouldn't allow that to happen but once you start doing that and and and having that shared uh technology without keeping secrets from each other that's that's where people and Nations do come together because we don't mistrust each other because we're armed we're armed because we mistrust each other right right and
uh what Reagan said to gorbachov in Vienna which got the conversation going yeah and um well now there's the same conversation is going on right now with AI because AI weaponry and the ability to have weapons that don't rely at all on human PE human interaction they no no people making decisions or pressing buttons completely powered by AI yeah if that happens this is a very very dangerous situ strange no moral no ethics and this mad race is again this is the height of tech right because you have tech people that are communicating about things to Congress where the people that are asking the questions really have no understanding of what these guys are doing or what what's really possible and what's capable and yeah there's there there's problems because they lose information like information gets stolen and they're dealing with that right now they think that China has access to the the top level AI that we're producing right now there's a real concern about and where the where do those attacks really come from sometimes even you know concerned about that is it Korea is it China or whatever because you can you can mask all that but yeah AI is uh it does uh scare me but then you know it's called progress and there is no going back from progress no what we we just got to keep up yeah we really got to keep up now how do you keep up with that though that's the question everything happened so much faster that it that but they had a little they had a kind of a running start with the nuclear nuclear bombs you know and that because it it took a while to develop over time and now things come along so quickly and you know the more we know the more we can the more we can know and it's it's a it's a scary world so is the reluctance that people have to um allow like the the the resistance against this Reagan film do you think it's resistance about conservatism in general or is it the idea that you're going to change people's perceptions about history because there's a lot of people again that have this very peripheral lwi information view of who Reagan was and so they want to have this negative spin on Reagan in history cuz he's a conservative I I think uh you know Reagan was a great president uh and
uh I think it gets P perceived and compared to Trump you know because there are comparisons to Trump and the things that uh if you get down to policy there's uh you know there's a really good comparison to Trump and uh maybe they see this as in influencing an election by you know by that comparison or whatever but you know it's a free Society here it's about ideas we're able to express and we're able to like uh make up your own mind about it rather than deciding for people right about what it was and the Reagan movie is it's not about ideology at all I mean Reagan was a Democrat for 40 years until the last 40 years years of his life or 35 he was a Republican and uh it's about the Cold War and about uh his fight against com uh communism and you know we won the Cold War under Reagan and it was uh before that appeasement had been practiced in this country Jimmy Carter God bless him you know uh he did really well with the Egyptians in Israel in making peace in the Middle East it was great about that he wasn't so great with the i the Iran hostage thing uh you you remember the the foiled disastrous uh rescue attempt you know back then it seemed like everything failed and uh but with the Soviets he he' appeased it like you know gave away the B1 bomber he gave away um a lot of things without getting anything in return from the Soviets as far as reducing the threat of war and they took that of course as weakness and started to really build up their military to and their uh missile uh strength to a unprecedented level yeah Americans were there's a lot about Americans that it's kind of sweet in a way and that you know the Kumbaya thing you know why can't all why can't we be friends and just uh you know that Humanity have that's the good hearted fantastic thing about America but that's not the way the world works we we we're all a product of the way that we grew up we've basically grown up in this country with relative safety and we have you know this a nation that has uh had laws that you know form of Law and you do things the right way in the wrong way of what you consider but you know can you imagine what it was like for Saddam to up in Iraq or or Chi or or or Putin and the way they grew up that
makes them the way they are and that Russians people had grown up the same way so you start to get a sense of the how the rest of the world doesn't operate on the same rules that we are right they actually have a more realistic way of looking at things the way man has actually been from from the tribal stage on you know you got the water and we want the water we don't want to share it we want it ours right because you'll piss in it and you it'll destroy it so we want it for ourselves and but uh Reagan uh came along and you know he had uh he had the idea to bankrupt them to make them spin Star Wars he came out with Star Wars he really got that name from the movie the whole Star Wars thing which is now the Patriot uh defense system you know over in Israel it didn't exist at that time it was decades away from it but he made the Russians think at least 10% that it might be real Reagan even offered to share it with him you know in exchange for let's take our missiles down to zero and um you know I I got mad at in in Iceland when I think he I thought he was acting like an old coder because they came up and said we're offering you this you know half the missiles or this or that and he said no he because they wanted us to get rid of Star Wars which didn't exist he said well you know you have to get rid of Star Wars and if we'd done that the Soviets would have just gone on their merry way and been doing what they would have uh had been doing but Reagan said no and the Soviet Union came toppling down but it it was it was great progress that he made and it took a cold warrior hardass cold warrior to be able to negotiate with them and that's what we don't have today right yeah did you how much research did you have to do on Reagan before you did this film did you did you do a deep dive yeah well for one thing I live through it I remember every single thing cuz even back then I was I was a big news walk even though you I had three channels three three news channels and uh and also when I when I was offered the part I he was my
favorite President okay and uh I didn't say yes but I didn't say no he's like Muhammad Ali he's known you know all over the world where uh people know what he looks like sounds like and the like it and I didn't want to do an impression impersonation like Saturday Night Live because when I when I play a real person I want to play it from their point of view and sometimes that mean that that means warts and all you know what are not just like what you did but what are your insecurities what are your what do you really care about how how'd you feel when you got jilted did you know or whatever that make us up who we are in the end and took me a long time to to to say yes but I went to I got invited to the Reagan Ranch uh which was the Western White House back then and uh when he when Reagan died some friends bought it and left it exactly as it is he and ny's clothes are in the closet whoa yeah he expect them to come back they didn't change a thing and uh the only guy that was up there was John Bartlett who was Reagan Secret Service guy road with Road horses with every day so but go up 5 miles of the worst Road in California and uh get to the top of the mountain come through the gate and I could feel him I could just feel him in every square inch of that place you know and I could feel he was a humble guy his his library with every book is that a big bookcase with every book going back to like 9 years old the printer of Udell is there and and uh and they had a king-size bed but it was two single beds zip tied together huh the house is 1100 square ft you know maybe two rooms of this and uh very simple and you know this is the Western White House all the you know the the appliances are GE cuz he he was a spokesman for G back then and he bought that place after he was governor but uh either he didn't have much money or he was really cheap but but or he wanted to live simply yeah he he knew how to live simply it was you know was this person I felt I felt him and then you know in the research he was an actor and he had a sunny we both have Sunny dispositions too I think naturally and but I I don't think one of the things about raid is I don't think he ever got to where he wanted to get as
an actor I think was one of the disappointments for him and you know his career was going at towards at the end at when he married Jane Wyman who was you know who woned an Academy Award like the next year and I think his self-esteem was at was actually pretty low at that point because he was looking for a purpose in his life that he never found until he got the uh he uh ran for and was elected vice president of the Screen Actors Guild and then president of the Screen Actors Guild and that's not a job that anybody as an actor you aspire to be right right but it's like when God shuts a door he opens a window somewhere and this was his entry into politics and you know that's where that road started and uh at the time that he was that he was uh president the Soviet Union they found the files after they fell by the way in the Soviet Union they were trying to infiltrate the media of course into movies and through the unions to for control of that and that was his in Earnest uh uh I mean there were fist fights in union halls over it that he was that he was involved in and uh he did uh a lot of great the reason we actors have great health insurance is because of Ronald Reagan by the way really yeah no kidding he was in fact that happened that happened in I think it was 60 or 61 and he wasn't even president of the Screen Actors Guild then he had been uh I think like six years later it's it termined run out but he came back and got that Ram through because that was the right thing to do that was when he was a Democrat wow yeah he got us I mean we have the best health insurance of any Union I can think of and that was because of Ronald Reagan that's wild yeah the the whole film industry is in deep trouble with AI that that's going to be a real problem that's going to decimate jobs or it could be a future source of revenue for my kids and grandkids and after that well they want Dennis Quid to to do a movie they just C oh that's true that is true well didn't Bruce Willis sign off on something like that I think he signed off on allowing them to use it because Bruce obviously has that horrible condition aasia yeah and uh he
can't act anymore and I think he signed off on digital rights for something some limited aspect of that MH I was uh gosh I was what is the name of that the boy band thing that's said dirty dirty uh it's a it's a documentary about the uh the guy Peterson I think is that uh started the boy bands uh they had in sync and uh uhhuh they had a documentary on him no Bruce Wills didn't sell his likeness to a deep fake company that's a deep fake despite initial reports so what did he do I mean he was in a they did something like that but like the the company didn't own his likeness or anything like he did a commercial or something where they used his so he only signed off on this one thing yeah oh so they're saying that he signed up interesting well anyway this documentary they take this guy and they take old footage of him and they put other words in his mouth talking to the camera that you know and you believe it I mean it's seamless right you can't uh so uh yeah it is scary in that way it's also could me for great things you know as well we can you know we can for computing ability that you know that would take years and years you know take a couple of minutes or if you're making a movie and you want to you can go out into an empty stadium and just create a crowd that doesn't look like cutout pictures yeah which was you know I think of course it takes away extras uh you know ability to earn it earn a living but but it also means that you can make a like a $4 billion movie instead of a $40 billion movie you know and get smaller movies and more people have access to making movies that's true you know that's one way of looking at it so uh it's also it might eliminate actors that's possible too well that wouldn't be such a bad idea I now you're kind of yeah you know fully established as long as I can play golf and somebody else comes to the set digitally okay do you think that do you think that um expressing your uh conservative viewpoints and and doing this film on Ragan do you think this ultimately has the potential to hurt your career I don't care anymore you know there wasn't you there was time that I you I was kind of concerned to kind of like speak my mind or speak up but in this really in the last couple of
years that I feel it's really important important that we we do all of us speak up in this election everybody's got to choose a side and we have to in order to have this exchange of of ideas and dialogue we have to speak up and so uh like I said they they what I was doing Reagan they there was a a story that was that came out that I was taking money from the CDC $400,000 you know the Trump administration had arranged so I could do a commercial on uh for the vaccine that was coming out but none of which was true but you know like my son even called me like freaking out you know because they it was like I was going to get cancelled over this stuff CU I was taking I guess taxpayer money from the CDC you know uh making off this but none of it was true and where did it come from did they find the source I really have I really have no idea it's something get circulated in social media so I I really don't know uh but uh that and I remember when uh Trump when Co first started I think I did a I think it was Politico that I did a phone conversation with because I I was involved with this podcast company you know we were that we were promoting and it you know just happened to be a CO and the guy asked me what what I thought about the way Trump was handling uh handling the the the uh Co and uh I said well at least he's there every day you know he's there every day trying to do something and I think when it comes to things like this we need to get behind our president as a whole you to come together to fight this thing just like you know uh just like Franklin Roosevelt getting behind you know during World War uh at the start of World War II in order to well anyway that became that I was a you know right-wing trumpster and uh that uh you know supposedly in danger of getting cancelled over that and and then I also gave a speech about Reagan to the group in um Florida after I we' made the movie and I think there were two people that were January 6th people just happened to be there and by association you know that was going to be my agents called me like freaking out over over uh over that they like it was going to be cancelled they just like being told to you know just be quiet and let things go by you know
and um no I just can't I'm not a very good rule follower to begin with you know it's just it's one of those faults I've had but good for you yeah but I think that kind of makes you a good actor too well I just it's a rebellious nature yeah well maybe that's debatable but it's it's a lot of there's a lot of rebellious people I know are really bad actors but but touche yeah there's a lot of that yeah I just uh I don't know I just I I think we all have kind of a obligation you want to call it or a Duty or whatever we're we're citizens of America we're citizens of the United States we the country is ours it's the people of the United States who supposed to run things right and so we have to speak out I hated when actors spoke out about politics I remember the Days Like Richard drus or you know whoever would you know talk shows and it's always just sounded like so stupid uh because of course they didn't know anything but so what little I know I do have to speak out about and I'm sorry Richard I for saying that about you uh but uh you he's very vocal now yeah he always has been and but um you know I just if they have the right to go on TV and talk about how I've seen several electors go on there and talk about how Biden is like I saw him he was in great shape and you know yeah then I have the right to go on and and talk about that I'm voting for Trump because you know he people might call him an [ __ ] but he's my [ __ ] yeah well we don't have the best choices today you know it's uh and it's interesting that we put so much weight on famous people we put so much weight on their opinion and perspectives on things we want a guy like George Clooney to be out there endorsing kamla Harris and talking about the threat to democracy that is Donald Trump and all that we look like he does it so well in the movies you notice Tom Hanks has been very silent yeah yeah yeah and you I blame I don't blame him you know uh and uh you know it's uh yeah we do I also think that presidents are reflection
of who we are as a people and what our culture has become you know um it's you know you can go back like Reagan reflected his times he probably couldn't he probably he probably couldn't get elected today because you uh come off like Kemp you know they're just kind of solid but you know Along Comes Trump trump swears you know it's it's okay you know over time just say [ __ ] [ __ ] piss whatever you want on on on on TV you know before that with cable news and so uh you know now you can say it but it took somebody like Trump to actually say it yeah he was really the first one that open up that door yeah he remember that speech that he gave about how you deal with China you don't say we're going to tax you 20 % and you say listen [ __ ] yeah and everybody's like whoa yeah I loved it I was like me too like finally plain speaking just like you said it before like an actual human being yeah because that's how actual human beings talk about something yeah that's what the emotions it brings up in you and that's what you feel I mean I guess Obama was the one first one to really truly use social media in you know in in in a way because he understood it and S Trump I mean he was tweeting uh you know it's probably why the polls didn't really reflect what was going on because people were just reading his tweets right well the tweets are so ridiculous he just he can't help himself he's got to insult people and go after people and like that's how yeah he made his career I mean that was him yeah St with Rosie o Donald yeah remember in that Feud that got was like so ridiculous back then that lady alone you know I do cringe sometimes and stuff but I I know where he is at the bottom of it that he really does care about the American people and he really loves this country and he's really smart really smart and he knows how to deal with uh foreign policy wise uh which is a huge thing with me because it uh it could it has an effect on everything else our culture our economy you know uh just the way we feel inside yeah and uh uh you know I think he's so much he's he's best for that um you know I just hope he I'd like to see him focus more on the issues yes and be very disciplined about doing that because
every when he goes off that they love that yeah any chance they can make it personal they love that I also think that he gets sucked into some things that I think are traps and I think one of the traps that's been set Le recently is uh the use of uh computer generated imagery with uh KL Harris's campaign I think he got sucked into a trap because he how is that cuz he made a post about how the crowds that were at the airport to meet her were fake that it was CGI right and a lot of people thought that they were CGI and there was a lot of people tweeting about it that it was CGI and I was looking at I was like this is interesting because it's so obvious why would they do that well the one of the ways they would do that is to put out fake images or put out the idea that there were fake images so that he makes this post bite on it he bites on it and then they go actually there's video of it then they can go back and really video in the crd and all that and prove that it was exactly because been so used to like Biden doing a rally and you never see the size of the crowd and you can feel that there's nobody there and cuz you know there's tepid Applause you know you hear individual hands hire people to go to those things it's not difficult to hire a crowd you can get a crowd to go to a comedy show if you wanted to yeah you can get a crowd to do almost any you I mean also they did this very wise thing the the Harris campaign where they would have famous singers they would have famous uh singers and entertainers perform there and then she would be there as well so people would essentially get fre conc get a concert exactly not hard to get not hard to do especially have a big Urban environment you want to get 10,000 people to go to a place not that hey and granted you know what it did energize uh the Democrats uh when Joe stepped down oh yeah because there was they knew they were [ __ ] if you stayed in there knew it every time we talked it was getting was a ray of Hope and somebody young and so all the all the that you know they they got volunteers and they you know they're going all in mhm yeah supposedly unless they really abcon the Republican agenda which it seems like she's trying to do you know that's you know Clinton did
that actually in 94 he was going to be a lame duck president he was going down and uh he his response was in the State of Union is uh uh address he said the age of welfare is over and he basically took over the Republican agenda and we had like six years of just incredible uh the economy was it was amazing it you know it was a force and uh the you know she started with uh kamla now is you know Tak it over the whole no tax on tips yeah try to take that over trying to say that she's never was the borders are and that from day one she's going to do something about it when she I think there's like what four or five months left in the administration right now uh you know why don't you do about something about also the denying she was the borders are when there's hundreds of people talking on television calling her the borders are oh yeah it's nuts yeah incl Joe Biden himself said border Zar yeah they said on CNN and then CNN later saying she was never B are oh she wasn't well why' you say it back then you guys are misinformation yeah so me she didn't go to the Border she went to the border of uh Nicaragua and then in the the uh bordering country or whatever you know talking about the root cause and all that stuff well yeah the root cause it's well it seems very coordinated doesn't it the Border thing yeah that that that one I really want to know like what are they trying to do what's the end goal here I mean it seemed the obvious thing would be for uh the old idea that that that's for voters that people coming into this country are naturally Democrats but that's not really true you know I have so many Latino friends and the people that came here the right way they can't stand what's going on CU they they really can't and and they have a tendency to really kind of get families and church and stuff to be you know become conservative and believe in the American dream and uh that's so that's not true I mean the other only other thing would be the power I guess and you create kind of you have definitely have less Republican votes I guess they think with that and you create chaos and you which is kind of an another kind of like kind of Soviet tactic that they you know if you want to F Revolution that's what you do create chaos yeah
so you know that's we're really getting into a conspiracy theory for that but I just I don't see the sense of it and then I have people like my housekeeper Josie who you know who was over here illegally for so long in her life then uh finally I said we you know in fact when Trump was going to get elected in 2016 she was like really really afraid and I said you know what he's he's we have to do this the right way I'm I'm you're going to apply for citizenship and I'm going to sponsor you and so we started the process then you know got her green card and everything to and she's uh she went through her citizenship test uh with me which she was doing she's failed twice but I went through the citizenship test with her she got everything perfect but she goes over there and she gets treated like like dirt you know really uh which is crazy the people trying to do it the right way get treated like [ __ ] and she gets treated like you know she's doing something wrong or whatever and um I know she's she can pass it because I went through the whole thing with her randomly and yet if you come into this country illegally they're going to pay for your hotel they're going to give you $1,000 to spend they're going say Fleet what state do you want to go to and uh you know we don't get those right well it's just insane when we have so many poor people in this country that are US citizens that aren't being taken care of and you're just letting people come here yeah veterans letting people come here illegally and giving them all this money like what's the end game yeah what is the end game and also even the mayor of New York is is complaining about it yeah well he [ __ ] up yeah call it a sanctuary City but we're welcome anybody and they're like great yeah come on down yeah well also K Harrison said that terrorists aren't coming in through the Border that's not true they've arrested terrorist course that's been going on for a very long time I mean even back to the Bush Administration where they would send floods of like kids that the cartel would come down to you know people way down in Mexico said we're taking your kids and that's it you couldn't say a single thing about it the cartel runs Mexico I believe you know that's a fact and just bringing them to
the border and in a flood of sending in a flood of kids or whoever to across the border and in embedded in that or are terrorist you send you know he s in a thousand with for a terrorist and it the odds are a lot better of getting in here yeah and that's been going on for a very long time and but it's just never been as porous as it is now right cuz now it's not just porous it's like an open invitation yeah which is just insane and then if you want to come here from Europe like say if you're a mathematician or something like that or even a friend of mine from Estonia he's a comedian he's trying very hard to get his green card it's very it's a difficult process but if you want to come here illegally all you have to do is walk right they they'll let you in they give you a cell phone they give you money they'll put you up in a hotel they give you free food it's CRA just back there they throw away their IDs and everything you know before they come across the border you can say you're anybody yeah from any country yeah no no genetics testing no questions asked just oh hey come to a future court date maybe yeah what state would you like to go to right and then the court dates are years ahead so you get to live in this country illegally subsidized for years and you would assume that those people are going to vote for the people that did that for them and I think that's part of the issue and you know a lot of there's deals made with the cartel and all this stuff the cartel is just like the cartel is charging was $5,000 ahead uh you know $5,000 ahead times 15 million what does that come to that's a lot of money that Jesus Christ you know that I think basically our government has been paying for uh a lot you know subsidizing them over there and dealing with the cartel and uh it's the world has turned upside down it really is from at least from the world I I want to but you know I'm old and so uh maybe not so relevant but not true I don't I don't think that I don't think that common sense I think it's always relevant if you ask me it's relevant it's very relevant everything's relevant it's it's also like everybody recognizes that this is not the best course for everybody for the whole country
regardless of if you're you're a left-wing person you do not want terrorists sneaking into this country blowing up cities you don't of course you don't so if there's an option where they can get here easily and quickly you would want to seal that up for everybody even if you're a kind person that thinks we should make some sort of a path to citizenship which I agree like you're housekeeper I agree yeah absolutely there should be some sort of a path where people who here look I'm the grandchild of immigrants people came across because they wanted a better life but it was easier to do back then the 20s yeah not hard get over here once you're here you can settle down I mean there should be a path and that's one of the things that made America so interesting because it's a Melting Pot of all these ambitious people that came here from a place that sucked and they they carved out a life yeah yeah there should be a path I'm all for immigrants it should be everywh yeah from everywhere just do do it the right way it's better for everybody yes better for everybody you know that's that's just the way it is I mean as it is now it's just that you know Venezuelan gangs are yep you know all we're all moving into the same neighborhood and it's very much you back in back in the New York days what the Aurora Colorado apartment building do you know that issue no okay there's a apartment building in Aurora Colorado that has been taken over by Venezuelan gangs yeah and so they essentially no one can collect rent anymore The Gangs correct collecting rent they're evicting everyone out of the building and they're controlling this building and and everyone's aware of it yeah and it's basically squatting at or the laws using the laws of the United exactly cuz Colorado is incredibly liberal and that area is incredibly liberal and so see if you can find that story on the Venezuelan gangs taking over the apartment building in Colorado there was I was watching a news piece on it today where they were you know expressing this real confusion and frustration that there was nothing that they could be doing about this and that they they have different doors have x's on them the red X's are when people have been evacuated from the apartment say if they shut it
down they shut down slumlord apart wait a minute slumlord are they saying anything about the The Gangs that's what I Googled and it says they are they calling him slum Lords now Aurora evictions draw attention to owners neglect at other apartments yeah maybe that's true but what about the gangs that's what I Googled and this is what pops up yeah see that's the problem with Google there's some stories okay special task force in check that out okay here we go special task force investigating Venezuelan gangs alleged ties to Aurora Aurora city council officials say that apartment complex on gnome street is closing to D code violations but some council members alleg there's more to the story so this is what I've been reading what I've been reading is that these V Venezuelan gangs have occupied this thing the gang known as trendy uh aragua uh started out as a prison gang in Venezuela as expanded throughout the Western Hemisphere last month the Biden Administration designated the gang as a transnational criminal organization accusing it of engaging in h human smuggling and trafficking gender-based violence money laundering and illicit drug trafficking rora Police Department in partnership with the Raven task force has assigned four dep detectives to a special task force that includes additional local state and federal Partners to investigate the violent crime impacting our migrant Community said Aurora PD spokesperson late Thursday yeah well they had taken over Department complex the city is closing near coldax and Poria interesting so they just basically take over an apartment complex and there's ain't nothing you can do about it yeah type of situation yeah and can go through the courts all you want well especially if our laws are so LAX yeah yeah yeah that's not good and if they're all flooding in through the and these are the type of people that are flooding those guys aren't coming over legally the Venezuelan gang MERS so that is that is an effect of what this basically especially Venezuela I mean you know that's been going on for a while people trying to leave the country and then they empty the jails like Castro did you know uh empty the jails and let them come out that cu the gangs are there
political force at you know at some point they become a political force yeah because how many that takes but you know that's what they're doing especially when Warfare almost you have things like defunding the police and this lack of appreciation for law enforcement yeah and no cash bail it's just a slap on the wrist all of it is crazy you can beat up cops and it's okay you can beat up cops as an illegal immigrant on on film and you just get let out of jail and the kids's giving the Tupac double fingers to the yeah yeah oh man crazy well this is this is what is the endgame of this type of behavior and how is there no course correction that's what's scary to people and what should be scary to people because this seems like if I if I wanted to throw the country into complete chaos that's how I would do it I'd have gangs come in through the Border that's the way Stalin did it you know they were involved in Bank Stalin in his earlier earlier his career that they robbed banks wow that's that's what they did they you know they were a gang and basically Mayhem but they you know they Banks to finance you know the cause crazy what a weird time yeah well listen Dennis I I appreciate you very much I've always loved your movies I really enjoy talking to you yeah really it's a lot of fun couple of conspiracy theorists just getting together talking it over couple of loons getting that ad drillin Rush when does Reagan come out Reagan comes out August the 30th all right well I'll be watching quite a few theaters actually and uh I'm very proud of it I I love the movie and I number one I hope people are entertained and uh also uh if you were born before 1985 you can go to this remember how great this country used to be and if you're after 1985 you can see it and you can realize how great this country still could be all right thank you very much brother appreciate you thank you bye everybody [Applause] [Music]