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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day what's happening brother how you doing man thanks for doing this man man thanks for having me um dude listen man I've been a fan of your work for well first thing I ever saw that you did was hell high water but going through the my friend Andrew Schultz turned me on to Yellowstone I got a text message from him once like at 1:00 in the morning like dude Yellowstone have you seen seen it like no everybody's watching it should I watch it he's like dude watch it so I got in yell Stone and it goes like Yellowstone is [ __ ] great but 1923 is better but 1883 holy [ __ ] and on your recommendation I finished it last night I was up till 1:30 in the morning I didn't sleep I went to I went to bed at like 4: cuz I was just laying around my house just thinking about it going what the [ __ ] man that I don't think anybody has ever nailed that time period like you did I there's nothing close there's nothing even in the [ __ ] ballpark nothing well thanks I I you know the reason I chose to do this for a living um I was off to my third College I was going to go flunk out of and uh and and right before I left I had read Lonesome Dove you know merch's book and then I saw the miniseries with Duval and and Tom of the and I said I I want to do that I don't know what that is but that's what I want to do wow you know so I started I started as an actor first because I thought that's what it was and then I realized I'm not doing that I'm not creating a story and then finally you know I got the conus to quit and and and write my own but yeah 1883 was me Yellowstone's the the punk rock me there's there's a fair amount of um it's it has no plot really you know don't take my land I want your land right um and in that I have a lot of opportunities to to poke fun but also kind of point out different points of views and kind of really study a way life in a world um but there's a lot of defiance in the way that I do it it's it's not surprising that critics hate it because uh it's designed for them ha critics hate what they hate Yellowstone and confounded by its success oh God they can't get their heads around why it's there's been New York Times has
done multiple multiple articles where they're doing like this essay on how is this [ __ ] so popular oh God that's so funny it's so funny that they don't get it 1883 was me grown up saying like hey let's take a look back at history yeah let's look at us and who us is as far as the you know the Europeans who settled this place and and let's not argue about whether they should or shouldn't have let's just look at what the hell they went through to do it critics are less relevant today than at any time in human history they really are they're they're off so much more than they're on yeah I agreed and most people don't buy into it at all like if you look at the like perfect example is uh one of Dave Chappelle's specials the critic score was like 3% on Rotten Tomatoes and then the public score was 97% yeah like that's all you need to know that's all my shows who who the [ __ ] are you like who are these people who are these people that are critics I have a show called mayor of kingtown which is all about literally the decay of in American city and I think it was 21% on Rotten Tomatoes and 94% audience rating something like that something bananas and it I just don't understand why they're still employed I mean what what is the purpose that they serve other than speaking to other completely disconnected supposedly highbrow people that live in congested urban areas yeah and I think also that critics I I don't know why but they seem to feel a need to judge any project by what it how is it looking at the lens through today's new question morality how is what should we be making movies about and you can make a shitty movie about something that they support and they're going to support that movie but my that's not my job my job as a Storyteller is to pick a world and look through the window and not judge it and go hey here's what it was yeah and and here's the decision some people made and you know for me you know the Holy Grail as a Storyteller is entertain educate and Enlighten don't give anybody answers just lots of questions to think about that's my job because I can't stand to pay money and have somebody preach to me yeah their ideas that's the fastest way to get me out of that's the reason I hated Forest Gump and I don't mean to say that we're going to catch a lot of
[ __ ] but this daughtering [ __ ] idiot is the only guy that can figure out the world everybody else around him he's just going to go on a [ __ ] run across America and everyone's going to follow him and that's going to heal the country I just was like what is this [ __ ] well I think back then it was just it was novel because it was the idea was like the like it could be so much simpler that this simple guy could figure it out and that we're all so disconnected the irony is you couldn't make that movie today oh no way because someone would be too offended at the portrayal of vor's character well my favorite movie that you can never make today is Tropic Thunder oh it's a [ __ ] great movie I'm so glad they haven't banned it you know like like they've done so many books like you know and Tom Hanks uh you know like if you go and watch his portrayal of Forest Gump it's nothing compared to the way they do like that simple Jack character in Tropic Thunder and when he says you never go full [ __ ] like you can't even say that word anymore no but but if you look at that movie which was designed to offend but also ridicule us taking ourselves too seriously that's that's one of our jobs yes you know it's hey let's we're all taking ourselves way too seriously and if we can make lie to this and make jokes about this then all of a sudden it won't feel so serious and we can be reflective well what what's happened in your business has happened in my business too the business of Comedy like comedy movies are dead they've been they've essentially killed the genre all the movies that we grew up loving like all the movies like something about Mary and you know [ __ ] you can go down the line all the way down to Animal House you could never make any of those movies anymore and and to go one step further like comedians since Lenny Bruce these guys men in women whose job it was to push the envelope as far as it can be pushed to help us look at ourselves and you think of the greats like the great Comics Bill Hicks Eddie Murphy Sam kison I mean Robin Williams and and you look at their at their acts hell look at look at uh what's her name before she did a talk show Joan Rivers yeah none of their acts would be socially acceptable today and and I
don't know that they were socially acceptable then but that was their job Richard prior he couldn't say 90% of what he said yeah but he's but you need people to sit there and push those boundaries because art to one person it's defensive to another but you got to have it you got to have it all yeah we say you know in the comedy world we say we're the last line of defense cuz this is where where the woke meets the wall the woke meets the wall with standup comedy this you can't have woke comedy it sucks it's impossible you can't like always punch up and cater to everybody it's like no it's that's not what's funny what's funny is the the [ __ ] weird things that people do and all of our hypocrisies and all of our contradictions and all all the chaos about being a human being and if you want to never make fun of marginalized groups or never make fun of protected classes or never make fun of anybody that's downtrodden or disassociated or disaffect you can't do that you can't that's that's not stand-up comedy stand-up comedy has to be everything it has to be everything that's funny regardless of whether or not it's socially acceptable to make fun of those things and I think that we need to it's healing to laugh right it's healing to to and by the way if we're going to talk about race relations uh who are some of the people that helped that who helped people understand how you felt on you know how in the world when I'm 14 years old am I supposed to know how it feels to be African-American in La how am I going to know that growing up in a small town in Texas but then you see a comic who's from South Central LA make jokes about me make jokes about living there and you get some understanding of it yeah you have some empathy you have some some knowledge well we're in a weird time where everybody has a say and I don't think everybody should be able to talk it's like I mean everybody should be able to talk but through social media that gets just broadcast in Mass to the world and you get these groups of people that they huddle up in these [ __ ] Echo Chambers and they duke it out I think I think we have a what's happening right now and it's privilege it's it's from a coddled where the this is the wealthiest Nation Society in the history
of civilization yeah and people are so cuddled that they have confused feelings with rights and your feelings being heard as a violation of your rights and it's not yeah you do not have a right to never be offended it's worse than that they've confused hurting your feelings with violence yeah they literally say words or violence disagreeing with someone is violence you've never seen real violence then you're talking nonsense somebody said something once and I've repeated it many times but it's a great thing to say the worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you even it's if you just the worst thing that's ever happened to you you got a flat tire oh my God God if you had a bunch of [ __ ] happen and you get a flat tire like I guess I got to change my tire it's no big deal but if you living this [ __ ] sheltered life and the worst thing that's ever happened is you're a a a dude in a dress and someone misgenders you you know like oh my God this is violence like no this is not violence you're a [ __ ] guy in a dress and it's confusing man it's [ __ ] confusing if you want me to call you girl I'll call you a girl but this is confusing this is [ __ ] confusing this is not violence the other thing is they'll say now if you disagree with someone you're phobic yeah when a phobia is an irrational fear of something right so disagreeing is not an irrational fear it's disagreement right and and we've reached a point to where people won't they can't even have a conversation because someone's going to sit there and scream as soon as you hear violence or you here then the conversation's over right you're racist you're transphobic you're homophobic whatever you are conversation's over they've minimalized everything they've marginalized your position it's it's interesting it it's terrible for comedy movies though but it's really fun for comedy though for standup comedy it's it's actually fun are they are they running with it oh my God we're having a great time it's like what my friend Ari said it best he said this is a really great time for comedy because comedy's dangerous again because comedy didn't used to be dangerous a long time you could there's a lot of shock Comics that were kind of they were saying things just to be shocking you know and I
certainly did that early in my career and now like if you have you have a position to defend if you're going to go out on a limb you're going to make fun of something that's dangerous you got to have that [ __ ] tight it's got to be good it's got to be roor is huge laughs it has to be it has to be something where people go oh [ __ ] I can't like Dave Chappelle's the best example that when he goes after something whatever it is it's just so goddamn funny that even though it's supposed to be something you're not supposed to talk about it's so good that everybody has to back off except the critics of course but what makes Chappelle so so good and so funny as he's going to say things that from a point of view is true like it's rooted in some logic yeah and and he's and he's smarter than about anyone who's going to oppose him and and he's thought through his his position so completely he can defend it you can disagree with it yeah but you can't say he doesn't have an opinion and it's not grounded in facts or at least wellth thought out ideas yeah he's hammering that [ __ ] out every night too he he's a fascinating guy the way he's doing it he literally will fly into a city he doesn't even book shows he flies into cities and just shows up at clubs and goes on after the show's over really yeah or Pops in in the middle of a show like he's done it to me before I was in Denver once and he just showed up I I got off stage and I went into the green room and I go what's up what are you doing man he goes oh hey Joe and I go what are you doing here man he goes I knew you was in town I thought I'd stopped by I go you want to go up he goes should I I go [ __ ] yeah so I literally went out and stopped the audience everyone's leaving the show was over they they were like paying their tab going home and I go yell at everybody on the stairs tell them to come back Dave Chappelle's here and the whole audience came back in and and that's how he works things out so he just goes around and just [ __ ] around and then slowly hammers these bits out until he gets them to this like bulletproof form and then he puts him out on a special wow yeah it's it's fun it's a fun time for stand up comedy but it's it's literally the only thing that you can do without a committee because
if you're going to do a movie you're going to have to have actors you're going to have to have writers you're going to have to have Executives Studio heads all this [ __ ] there's a lot of people that have their say in what's happening or at least have a conversation about it there's no conversation with standup it's literally just you it's one person how do I make fun of this what is what's my angle on this and then you work it out you put it together and then you present it in front of people and if they laugh it's good and if they don't laugh it's not good and you got to figure out how to make it work now that's about the that's about the ballsiest art form it's so just pure you are all along yeah it's pure I love it and my club out here what I also love is we we make everybody put their phones in a bag so instead of [ __ ] taking pictures everything and filming everything just [ __ ] just be there just be there put that goddamn thing away the phone's in a locked up in a Yonder bag phone off just experience a human moment have a good time I know a couple of guys that went to your club last night they called me I'm driving up today they said have you been to his Club I said not yet they said and they're from La an agent from La he said they say things in there you can't say in La like comedy I said was it funny it's hilarious funniest thing I ever seen every one of them yeah well that's what it's supposed to be you know and Louis CK said we built an Alamo that's what he said he say essenti because you've built the comedy Alamo he goes this we're in a war with the cyber world and he goes and you built us an Alamo wow yeah but that's you know when I came out here you know and there wasn't really a comedy club and all these other comedians were moving out here because this is the only place we could do standup it was during the pandemic it's like all the pieces fell together perfectly it was like the universe opened up door after door at every step and then all of a sudden we're here and there was like 15 of us and we're working in these like Little Rock and Roll clubs and EDM clubs and we're doing St soldout shows and the rest of the country's completely shut down you can't even do stand up in doors and they all heard about Austin that we were all out
here and then Ron White's like you got to open up a club and so it's like okay let's open up a [ __ ] club then we bought this building and started we actually had a building that we bought before that was owned by a cult really yeah there's a documentary on the cult called holy hell you should watch it it's pretty crazy this guy came from West h hwood and right after Waco when the uh cult awareness Network started cracking down all these Cults after Waco burned down and the you know feds killed everybody they uh moved out to Austin the cult member the cult leader changed his name got a new name moved to Austin and build a theater so he could dance in front of his followers and that was the theater I bought to start a clubing wow yeah you know my cousins were the Federal Marshals in Waco and they knew Kash and and they had told the ATF they said we were just there 3 days ago like they could be whatever they are but they they're permitted up and they were driving down I35 and he looked up and saw these three Choppers and he knew exactly what was going on and by the time he got to the Kesh compound those guys had already been killed but he knew David and and he went up to the oh maybe it was a week or two later I can't remember how long they held up in there but he said let me just go talk to Kesh and uh and see if I can get any of these women and kids out and he didn't he walked up and knocked on the front door and took like 30 of them out wow before they just torched that place yeah they did torch that place and they denied doing it too there's video footage of the tank the tank driving right oh what US driving in and shooting flames into into the buildings they just [ __ ] lit everybody on fire yeah [ __ ] you yeah I don't even know what started it it no it was like one fed showed up and then got shot at or some something happened well I know four were killed in the first when they went to hit that place I think like nine got shot I know we can pull it all up and look but yeah um you know at that time there there was this big Panic about militias you know because at the same time you got Ruby Ridge happened right around the same time right you had all these and the FBI was just getting kind of not ATF kind of getting spanked in spots and and they were trying to clean up their image or
or prevent whatever and that was their mission to sure was like get rid of all these militias yeah and and you know surprising little overreach on the governments little overreach but also like every cult starts the same way seems like a good idea we're going to do things right we're going to what's wrong with Society let's fix it let's all commune together well they all start like this first you have you you need a like a Jim Morrison adjacent looking right Wann toe rockar actor yes right who's so wildly narcissistic and yet Charming that he can convince him [ __ ] like I need your wife yes but I need you here to do the garden yes and then he becomes his own God and then he's going to pick a date where all this shit's going to go wrong uh the world's going to end and I'm going to show you salvation that day is going to pass and then we need another problem until they Wing that out and get a bunch of machine guns the guy out here his name was haime Gomez and he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist that was the guy who start so how do you think that worked out so one guy in like 2000 or the early 2000s sent out he left the cult and sent out a mass email that was like Hey this guy's been hypnotized me and [ __ ] me for the last 10 years and then everybody was like I thought it was just me that's the guy but when he was young when he got old I say look like a model oh when he was young he was beautiful he was beautiful he had like a chisel body he was a yoga instructor I think that's how he start he was an actor he was in Rosemary's Baby he was like an extra in Rosemary's Baby but he when he started the cult it really just kind of started out as a yoga class and he was very charismatic and convinced these people that there was a different way to live and and like just like that I'm sure you've seen wild wild country no you never seen that oh my God it's [ __ ] amazing it's a Netflix series about this cult that took over a town in Oregon yes I do know yeah they poisoned everyone in the town they shipped in homeless people so that they could vote so they brought they they took homeless people and they brought them into the cult so that they would be a part of the community they could vote then they just took over the [ __ ] town and then once they did that they kicked the homeless people out and
it's it's a wild if I wrote that screenplay people would say that that's ridiculous yeah yeah there's a lot of those oh yeah H yeah there's a lot of those well that's the craziest thing about 1883 is that you don't have to do any dramatic embellishment there's doesn't have to be any any [ __ ] with the truth it's that is literally what went down those people literally came here they you were telling me on the phone that what percentage of the people that that made the track across couldn't even speak English you know it something like 40% you know they used to come in from they would come into and of course what what our government was doing was we needed people for a multitude of reasons uh after the Civil War so many of the workforce have been killed you know one point something million soldiers died that that we know of we don't know how many other civilians so we needed people um we needed people to settle the West because Manifest Destiny basically said hey you know there's all this land we bought from whoever we bought it from France I guess the Louisiana Purchase um and we can't settle it cuz every time we we try the Lakota the Comanche kick the [ __ ] out of us so we should send a bunch of central Europeans and Eastern Europeans over there and let them get in the middle of it and so in all of these uh and you can you can look up if you were to put it into the computer you can pull up all these pamphlets they would put out and ads they would put out in newspapers in Romania and Norway obviously Ireland did it everywhere Germany and said come free land yeah come get your free land and when I started researching it um you know there were people that would come from areas where it was against the law to swim they were not allowed to swim wow there weren't no one knew how to swim it was against the law to swim against the law to swim what the f that seems so ins what seems so insane what what really struck me I mean I I did a lot of thinking about that show last night like it ended I did my binge I ended the binge at like 2:00 in the morning and you know at night time I do some of my most [ __ ] up thinking because everyone is asleep in my house it's just me and I and I generally do
most of my writing when everyone's asleep and I was just thinking that's 140 years ago that's nothing I'm 56 years old when I was in high school it was in 1983 so that was a 100 years ago I was a sophomore in high school so I was 100 years is nothing 100 years before that you make your way across the country on a [ __ ] wagon and you get free land Yeah a hundred years that's so short a period of time it's so hard for us to really appreciate how recent that is and how how [ __ ] insane the change in this country over such a short period of time has been meteoric meteoric just read something in the last day or two that and I'm going to get it wrong but 19 37 is closer to 1984 than 2023 is to 84 or something like that yeah and if you think about the the gap between 1984 and 2023 and then what 84 was like I was alive you were alive to now it doesn't seem like that dramatic a change obviously there is internet but you still had cars you had phones you couldn't take them with you but you had them but 1937 we haven't even we haven't even made penicillin yet right that's just 40 years yeah trench warfare yeah yeah World War I no these these they came over here they didn't speak the language they knew nothing about the land knew nothing about the water had no it did by the way you can be rest assured it did not say in that advertisement in the Romanian times there's other people who already live there who will kill you when you show up and they didn't mention any of that um they didn't hear about the Indians till they got to Galviston and you know they're buying their supplies you need a gun what would you need a gun well the Indians the who what are you talking about who are Indians well you're going to find out yeah that was a part of uh Empire of the summer Moon you know that these folks had just establish these homesteads and had no idea and the commes would show up and just slaughter them they had no idea they had no idea that there was even a concern and they had to figure it out along the way yeah and that you know and you read in that book and and from a military standpoint it's such a just an impressive achievement that nikona
decided he was going to raid all the way to Galviston and he marched through burned Austin went all the way to galvaston everybody got on their boats went out on their boats and watched him burn galvaston then they went in and looted all the stores and found these parasols you know you can sit there and block the sun and the commity thought that's the freaking smartest thing I wish we'd had fabric to do that with so all the Braves took these parachutes and when they rode off there's thousands of commanche warriors with parasols of all these different colors block getting the sun off their shoulders running away with umbrellas yeah that's insane but what a what a terrifying visual that would be oh I mean I had no idea until I read Empire the summer Moon and then I had the author come in what is his name again SG Gwen s is that it great great [ __ ] guy and he found out when he moved to Texas like he he moved here and then was researching Texas history sewen and uh when he moved here and he was researching Texas then he was like oh my God like how how do I not know about all this how do I not know what this happened how do I know not know about the Texas Rangers and how they were established and why they they needed them and what what went down yeah it was the it was the Wild West yeah well it's one of the reasons why Texas is such a crazy place it's like this was kind of The Last Stand yeah yeah and and Texas was its own Nation for you know 14 years 13 years and it and it's still you know that Independence is still pretty embedded in it yeah they want to put it back on the ballot to every year this experiment hasn't worked yeah well what's crazy is when you think about the United States only being established in 1776 and how recent that is in human history but the idea of a new country being established today seems insane like this there's no one no way impossible no it's not going you know they there's part of Oregon wants to secede and yeah and join Idaho there's there's there's a section up there around Humble County and and up in that area in California they want the same thing and and it's understandable because you have people who you know you take the eastern half of Oregon virtually all of them are in some form
of Agriculture right right they're ranching or they're farming or they're doing something same with with with that part of Northern California you're doing Timber you're growing something whether it's weed or whether it's whatever you're doing something agricultural um and then you come to these big Urban centers and where people do not understand where their food comes from right I read an article this is when I lived in La as an actor and there was some uproar some cheerleader had gone hunting uh and killed a deer or something and uh the picture made it in the paper or somehow made it somewhere and there was this massive people went nuts and I'm flipping through the paper and and I'm reading the letters to the editor that's kind of there in the front and uh they were all about this girl and there's a picture of her and uh one of them said that all Hunters should be killed how dare they go out and kill that animal why can't they just go get their food at the grocery store where it's made no someone got mad enough to write that letter and wrote it and reread it and sent it and then it was printed not from a sense of irony from the paper I doubt uh and and I remember thinking God people don't even know where it comes from they have no idea what it takes to put food on a table any kind of food no I don't care if you're vegan or not they no idea it's all been given to you and all you have to do is work and then spend your money yeah yeah yeah yeah I've had conversations with people while they're eating meat saying I could never hunt like I don't know how you do it like what are you talking about you're eating meat you just hired a supermarket Hitman yeah you just you just exported the execution yeah it's it's it's we're so detached and um that was why it was fascinating to watch this massive uptick during the pandemic where the food supply got cut off for a while and you know it was it was very weird and a lot of people got into hunting a lot of people got interested in it there was a big uptick or started to or started to want to take Sumer responsibility some kind of control measure whether they get chickens in their backyard whether they they come to a ranch and there's plenty places where you can buy it direct to
Consumer you know when that hit me yeah I've got three steers and two deer in the freezer you know I've got 60 chickens I've got a greenhouse I didn't yeah I didn't I didn't miss a beat yeah well that's the way to live if you could but most people are like well not everybody can live that way right figure out how you can you yeah you can you can I did it in LA did you for five years I went um everything I ate was wild caught or it was grown from I bought it from the farm if it was a vegetable or fruit and in C in in La it really wasn't that hard to do farmers markets and stuff that farmers markets for heck you could even get you know you could go get wild caught fish at the farmers market right you could go get what farm grew this well there's your kale or whatever you want it's all right there like it's it was actually not that diff difficult and I'd come back to Texas and hunt for a weekend um and that was by you know go shoot three deer and that's a Year's worth of food three three animals for a year yeah yeah that's that's best case scenario if you could pull that off but most people are just so disconnected from it and so connected to the urban world where no one's growing anything everything has to be brought in by trucks I was reading this um this story uh it's a it's a book called uh dissolving Illusions and it's all about um the introduction of vaccines and it's about the pandemic diseases of the early 20th century and they were talking about just the horrific conditions that people lived in in these Urban cities before cars because there there was no buses so how are you getting food how are you getting vegetables how you getting all these things into these cities these people lived with terrible nutrition basically starving to death living in places where there's uh ouses that were shared by thousands of people everyone's stuffed in these tenement buildings they're all breathing congested air everyone's getting diseases there's no no drugs to treat them no antibiotics to treat them and everyone's [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah no that you know these and it's been that way by the way for 1,200 years as soon as massive urban areas you know as soon as they sprouted up I mean look at look at the plague yeah that's what that is that's that's a flee born illness
that you get because you're living in such close proximity to rats MH yeah and why are there so many rats well because there's that much Vermin and filth and waste for them to Feast on yeah I mean it's Nature's Way of balancing things out Nature's like well this is a [ __ ] problem whatever you guys are doing here is not the way to do it so have fun with this yeah yeah it's also with the with the Native Americans you you look at the command she you look at any of them it was the disease that you know when when from the first pilgrims mhm all these things that that Europeans brought over I mean it just decimated I think Kera killed 60% of the commane yeah they said that 90% of the people killed in North America were killed by diseases 90% of the Native Americans yeah yeah and that that story hasn't been told properly you know and that's what I I really appreciated about 1883 it's like you you talked about I mean this was like the end of the Native American Empire essentially this was when when there were still a little bit of Buffalo left there were still you know they were moving Indians to reservations then the Indians that were out they were resisting it you know and it's just and then these people are trying to make their way in this [ __ ] wagon train across the country what what percentage of those people died that were trying to do that I mean I don't know that there's any anywhere along the organ Trail you could you can drive along or you know there's markers just everywhere everywhere and especially the further up you get into Wyoming and the further you start getting through like the Lander cut off uh and South pass then they're just and that's the ones that you know that got a marker yeah so it's how do you know right you know the hand cart uh the Mormon Church brought a lot of people out and they didn't have a lot of money enough money to give them uh full wagons even though that's what they' promised so they made these Hand cards that people would pull from wherever they took off from somewhere in Ohio uh to try and get to to Utah um and so these people pulled them by hand they put their wife and their gear their kids or whatever and then they'd pull them these two wheel carts like chariots without a horse and you know one winter they left to late and got caught in the
winter and the whole trick was if you didn't make it to the certain spot in Wyoming by July 4th you were not going to make it you were going to get caught in the pass and you're going to die and something like 25,000 people died in one year just mind-numbing statistics insane yeah insane and it's it's so interesting that the the early films on the west they were they never covered that the early films on the west were like these really sort of shallow surface films that were fun movies you know cowboys versus Indians the Spaghetti Westerns and that kind of stuff but no one had any sort of real understanding of what actually went down no you didn't the notion of getting free land uh that you could go farm uh with by the way nothing you're going to go somewhere with nothing like there's no stores you're going to have to make everything you have to figure it all out on your own who would choose that not a successful blacksmith not somebody that's got a nice comfortable home in Maryland or wherever and why why why would you do that you have to have no other option right right all the people that came over from from whatever European nation they came from they didn't come for an adventure right they came because they were [ __ ] starving my family came over from Ireland because of the Potato Famine they didn't they didn't want to they had to right they were dying so they had to come so that's why everyone came desperation like desperation is what settled the West fueled by a manifest destiny which was which was a cruel very cruel you know Insidious idea that a bunch of politicians had that says hey we can either send the Army out there and just go to war and we've been doing that and we've been getting the [ __ ] handed to us because the Lakota were until the repeating rifle came around the Lakota and the kamanche the arapo even the mean we did not have their skill level on a horse their their arrows were actually more effective than our single shot muskets like they were a superior Army and and stayed that way it wasn't until we started sacking Villages when the Braves were gone when their soldiers were gone we when that dirty [ __ ] started then it started turning the tide and then when we killed the food source that was the end of it yeah which is
part of the wiping out of the Buffalo I mean it was a commodity for sure but it was also there was a concerted effort to cut off their food source it was but it was also you know there was a demand the Buffalo tongue was the number one delicacy in New York City isn't that crazy the tongue the tongue which nobody wants anymore I no and then they sold all the they sold all the the Buffalo skins to France and they made giant massive silly robes well at one point in time the richest man one of the richest men in the world was he dealt in beaver pelts yeah I don't doubt it there was [ __ ] Beaver everywhere they wiped out most of the beaver in this country yeah you know but they've come back yeah they've come back but not nearly to where they were no but they've come back it's pretty I mean it's pretty impressive how much they've come back and it's a pretty keystone species so wherever they are you know they build enough dams and they create a pond it creates a wetland have you ever eaten Beaver no it's good that's what I hear ta was was a a delicacy yeah the tail Tail's disgusting we ate the tail it's just all fat they just were starving and they needed fat we maybe we didn't cook it right but renella cooked it as best as he could but we he made like a pot roast out of the Beaver hams yeah it was very good it was like really good beef it was delicious it was surprisingly good like not like oh I could eat this but like I want more like this is [ __ ] great was really good really yeah no I think the most exotic thing I ever ate and it wasn't it was kind of a similar I'm eating with their servant situation is on this Ranch outside of Stanford Texas and they they we barbecued up a bunch of armadillo how was that I was so freaking hungry it's it seemed good to me I you know this is well before I knew they had leprosy I checked everything I'm good I'm 40 years in and I'm fine is there a temperature you have to kill killed leprosy at where you cook the food too like trinos well look when you smoke that you smoke it for like 12 hours so I think anything kills everything yeah what does this what does armadillo taste like it kind of tastes like pork really yeah like Havalina then yeah yeah which is tastes a lot well they even look like
pork yeah well they are pork they're a Peery right it's like cousin of pig yeah some somewhere and they crossbreed I think with the feral Hogs a bunch oh have they really I think I think um I shot one last year and it turned to chizo it's edible yeah it's not great yeah but it's feral hog I'm not you don't want to eat those feral hog I've eaten a lot of feral Hogs yeah I shot one at tone turned into sausage did you it's good yeah those things are a problem I mean they are they're a real problem out here oh my gosh and and the destruction that they that they reap on the on the ecosystem I mean that's the reason the Bob White Quail population is just plummeted rattlesnakes have stopped rattling because of the Hogs wow yeah yeah one of the first things that happened when I moved out here is Ted nent invited me to shoot Hogs from a helicopter like I guess I'm in Texas welcome come shoot hogs out of a helicopter they're just gunning them down have you ever seen Apocalypse Now no but is that is that withal no Apocalypse Now is Ted nent and this guy that calls himself Pigman who has a show on the one of the Sportsman's channel that Outdoor Channel they shot like 250 plus pigs in an afternoon and they all did it out of helicopters and it's like like flying it's [ __ ] it's insane and you watch you're like how is this legal like I guess it's legal cuz you have to do it that way they they they have so many pigs like here it is this is this is POR cpse now it's all slowmo all on dead psut them loading them in Rangers taking them be a whole lot of people that's the other thing the hunters for the hungry I mean really good amazing program yeah they shoot an incredible amount of these pigs and then feed them to people and it it is good man there's a there's a guy out here named uh Jesse Griffith who owns a great restaurant called Dua in Austin and he runs uh a school where he teaches people how to hunt he teaches them first how to shoot rifles then how to hunt then uh they hunt hogs teaches them how to butcher them and cook them and he's an amazing chef and this guy I mean if if you think that wild hogs taste like [ __ ] talk to this guy and cuz he he'll knock
it out oh my God oh my God some of the best meals I've ever eaten in my life he he cooked diver duck which everybody says they disgusting I've only had it I've only had it once from him cuz they say the diver ducks eat all the [ __ ] that's at the bottom all the muck that's at the bottom and most people say they taste disgusting he cooked it it was one of the best foods I've ever eaten in my life really yeah he just knows how to do it right he's like it's not that these things taste bad it's is people don't have the knowledge of how to prepare them correctly well if you think about it you know you can go to any gun store or pawn shop and buy a 30-year-old old Remington 700 with a scope on it for 400 bucks box of bullets is going to cost you $30 license is going to cost you $35 you can go shoot a hog you can go shoot a deer which someone's got to manage them the ecosystem's demolished so there's nothing else doing it so they're just going to overpopulating disease and you can create a Year's worth of meat for 600 bucks yeah it's incredible and then the next year you cut it down to 300 and then the next year you cut it down to 150 yeah and it's fun yeah yeah it's a fun thing to do yeah and it's you're taking responsibility for your own for your own food yeah and still there's people that think there's something wrong with that but that's how disconnected Society is well that's the look I think one of the most absurd positions anyone can take is they're a vegan for an ethical reason it's Preposterous you could do it for a medical reason even though I don't know what that reason would be but maybe you can't process you know meat you can't process proteins like that but to do it from an ethical reason is absurd and the reason I say that is I have plowed a field it is Carnage it is 12 feet of Carnage and every single plant that you eat is going to be tilled into the ground in some capacity so you're going to kill everything when you that field famous uh conversation that Kevin cner has yell I wrote that's why I wrote it people have to understand you have to take ownership that same thing Ted Nan is saying said this on this podcast he said if you want to kill the most things become a vegan
yeah 100% if you're thinking about individual life if you don't think that one life equals one life if you think that small things aren't as valuable as large things that's a totally different discussion and that's a weird discussion but if you think that all life is sacred well what about the lives of the ground nesting Birds fawns what about the lives of rodents insects all those things are getting demolished the average organic avocado Farm in central California is going to kill on average around 19,000 ground squirrels a year that's not counting the billions of bees because they're going to bring the bees up from Brazil to pollinate the trees and then they're going to [ __ ] die they're not sending them back anywhere they're not keeping them at some no they're gone they're going to spray with some organic which is probably just like compressed cayenne pepper they're going to spray the trees they're going to kill every bug every plant everything all you got to do is drive I5 through the sanim valley and you won't see you'll see plenty of almonds you'll see plenty of all these different Groves you won't see any birds you won't see anything else they [ __ ] killed them all yeah that's a hard pill for a lot of people to swallow that think they're doing something that's ethically correct well you if you look anywhere in the ecosystem take man out of it virtually everything is is living at the expense of another organism to the degree that if a certain weed grows up over the grass it's killing the grass the tree grows up this little little sapling grows up over the grass it's killing the grass the grass grows up before the weeds it kills the weeds kills the flowers kills this it everything is in competition with everything else there is not a vegan fish there's not a vegetarian fish every single fish every frog they are they're eating they're eating another organism to survive every one of them and that's what we did for as long as whenever we split from apes that's what we did Apes still do it they talk about oh they eat fruit they eat fruit till they get a hold of those little freaking Panzer monkeys yeah then they go to town those chimpanzees they didn't even know about that until that
David atenor documentary yeah you ever see that one they eating the they go to war if you ever wonder where our violent Street comes from watch chimpanzees yeah have you seen chimp Nation no that's another great fli series [ __ ] incredible they they kill each other they they and I asked the guy go how often do they kill monkeys he goes we really didn't show how many times they killed monkeys cuz they did they do it so often oh yeah I mean it's literally their preferred food yeah they leaves and the fruits and everything till they need that protein yeah they they eat the fruit if because it's easy yeah but if they can find monkeys they go after monkeys yeah and they eat them alive they just start chewing on them there's a there's a video of this monkey like screaming while this chimp is eating him from the hips down just you see his little face it just looks so much like us to watch him just just get eaten alivee by a chimp who also looks a lot like us is just so [ __ ] yeah that's that's the real nature that's not vegan nature that's not this [ __ ] utopian artificial Paradise that people have created in their mind that they're doing if they're eating vegan it's just not true unless you're growing all of your own food in your yard unless you have a contained environment where you're composting and using mulch and you you're making sure that everything that you grow you're picking it yourself you're just fencing it off to keep squirrels from eating it if that's not the case you're involved in murder but even then even then you don't think you're going to have a what happens when the grasshoppers come right and they'll get through that fence oh yeah and they devastate your crops you going have to kill the Grasshoppers you're going kill the Grasshoppers and then what are you going to do when the squirel gets in you can't fence off your trees yeah so what are you going to do well you're either going to give away a lot of your crop which you're not going to want to do or you're going to come up with a way to or you going to run the squirrel off okay well then you just killed it because you ran it out of its habitat so it just dies a slower death yeah so that you don't we don't get to exist without another organism fueling our existence period I know it's such a
hard thing for people to accept well I think it's because they're so dissociated mhm you know talked about it in Wind River at the very end when he's given the speech to I don't know if you've seen that one or not I didn't okay um so he he this guy it takes place in the Wilds of Wyoming um and there's a young woman who's an FBI investigator and she comes and she she's investigating the death of a Native American woman uh culminates in a big gunfight and and she gets wounded but she doesn't she doesn't die he visits her in the hospital Jeremy Renard's character who's from this area and he says you know luck doesn't live in in the wilderness it lives in the city you know whether or not uh your car is the one that gets car jacked whether you know someone someone's on their cell phone when you're walking through the crosswalk uh that's luck but out here you survive or you surrender you know wolves don't kill unlucky deer they kill the weak ones yeah and that's that's the reality that's the reality of our when you can walk from your condo to aroan and buy your $19 almond butter yeah and never ask yourself now I can tell you I can tell you exactly right now how much water it takes in a state with no water to make one almond right takes three gallons yeah so if you want to amort it out one almond takes three gallons how many almonds does one almond tree have 10,000 we'll do the math it's nuts do the math nothing comes without there is an expense nothing makes me crack up more than the stop oil people when they're blocking the highway with clothes made with oil like they have rubber this this is this is one of my like drive me it's [ __ ] insane I'm making I'm making a TV show about this right now yeah called land man with Billy Bob thoron oh wow about the oil industry and about energy I love Billy Bob Thor that's a gangster I love that dude gangster he's great it doesn't give a [ __ ] does not give a [ __ ] and he was great in 1883 too oh yeah he's great I love that dude showed up for one day goes what am I doing doing this great just perfect Wicked yeah Wicked that's that's when I decided I I got something for you nice there's something we can do but people don't understand you know they're mandating all these electric vehicles in
California 75% of California's uh electricity comes from fossil fuels um about 15% comes from when then alternative energy and then they still get a little from nuclear I don't know why everyone got off nuclear that was like that's the that's the best thing for the environment believe it or not we we are I spoke when I was researching landman I I I reached out to some guys on MIT has a climate change board they've got a bunch of scientists that are you know all they're doing is trying to figure out what is our next energy source like what is a reliable energy source that's clean and cold fusion is pretty much the thing that they've all pinned is this is going to be the deal um but they think we're 30 to 40 years from having it to where it can even generate enough power right now for the first time ever uh they were able to create electricity with a through coal Fusion that created more electricity than it took to create it like so they just net zeroed it so how long before they can make enough of it they can make it efficient enough that someone can charge us for it and it's still affordable to us how far off and then the infrastructure what what's the method of cold fusion like I don't even know how it's done I mean it's the same it's can you Google that Google like how is cold because I know there was a cold fusion thing a few years ago but they decided that it wasn't they they they couldn't repeat it but I didn't know that they've actually pulled it off now it's essentially you're splitting an atom but you're not you're you're not you're splitting it in a manner that doesn't seem to create the waste and I think that's the reason they're backing off nuclear they know something about the waste that they don't want to tell forever it lasts forever and you dig holes in the ground you got to cement it in there like there's spots in Nevada where they have just like [ __ ] trenches filled with nuclear waste yeah but there's also um emerging Technologies about converting nuclear waste into batteries there was something about that that there there was some sort of technique that they were developing that was going to be able to take all that stuff and convert it into batteries but we have a we have a like a
reasonable fear of radiation obviously because it's you know we we know like you you chernobyl's [ __ ] it's going to be [ __ ] forever fukushima's [ __ ] it's [ __ ] forever it's [ __ ] for as long as there's ever been people alive it' be [ __ ] three four five times that in the future to be [ __ ] and then we also know that you know they haven't been real forthcoming with some of the dangers of it like the completed uranium rounds they used during the Iraq War and all these soldiers came back and they had Gulf War syndrome and that was they they their babies were born all [ __ ] up and no one wanted to take responsibility for it but there's been some documentaries done on it and I think the consensus is that a lot of those cases were probably due to the depleted uranium rounds they used because apparently those [ __ ] things are just lethal they just go right through tanks like depleted uranium rounds are the [ __ ] but the problem is then these [ __ ] soldiers would go to the battlefield where all this stuff had gone down and they're breathing in and they're taking they're absorbing all this [ __ ] radiation and they weren't warned well look at all the look at all the in the 50s when people used to go to Vegas and sit on the roof and watch nuclear testing I had a professor in college that was one of those guys and got like um teen kind of [ __ ] different Cancers and that the story about John Wayne yeah John way way John Ford all of them died of cancer cuz they kept shooting in Monument Valley where they were [ __ ] setting all these things off exactly but did anybody like definitively connect John Wayne and his cancer to that cuz I think I had read something about many people that worked on those films also also got similar cancer yeah but I mean John Wayne looked like he smoked cigarettes and drank a lot too it's like I heard the guy smok five packs a day yeah he looked like a guy was party on like his second pig's heart he'd had like eight different organ transplants in the late 60s he was actually kind of a tank that he surv have a pig heart yes they really did that with him no yeah I think he made a joke about it on the Oscars whoa they've actually successfully transplanted pig hearts I'm yeah I mean Heaven how did I
not know this I know they've done it with a friend of mine has a a another person's heart yeah he had a heart attack and a heart transplant pig valve pig valves valves same [ __ ] oh I knew they were doing that yeah they do artificial valves my friend ever glass from House of Pain he can take a microphone and put it to his chest and you can hear his fake valve going like tick tick tick tick tick tick really yeah it's weird it's weird he does it you're like yo you got a [ __ ] machine inside you keeping you alive son does it run on the energy of his own body it's a vve right so I guess it runs as the heart pumps you know it opens and closes just like the biological valve that you're born with but his is artificial wow yeah I think it's I don't want to speak out of turn but I think Titanium or something like that like something like very durable and like I know they're using titanium for other body parts they're using it for um articulating neck discs so when people get bulging discs that turn to herniating discs and then they get degradation whether it's pinching on the nerves they have two options off often times they'll either um fuse you which is could be [ __ ] horrible or they now they give you an alternative which is a articulating disc and uh guys have had those like Al Jermaine Sterling had one of those done and then went on to defend the bantamweight title in the UFC really and defended it more than anybody and just [ __ ] dominated people yeah until he lost to Shan Ali he's like I think he defended the battle title more than anybody and he won the title and then after he won the title he he got need in the head during the title fight it was kind of a bad deal like he won the title by disqualification so a lot of people hated him and they discredited him then he got this operation had this disc replaced his neck and then they had the rematch and he [ __ ] dominated the dude really with a fake disc in his neck so really was [ __ ] him up the children of John Wayne Susan Hayward and Dick Powell fear that Fallout killed their parents this is a from 1980 article wow 22 cast members it says 91 had contracted cancer wow oh my God and this is pre- internet kids and that's at that point too 1980 so right but this you got to think this
is like it was difficult to track down this kind of information back then and then to put it out on people magaz azine that's pretty wild it was because of where they were doing uh St George only 137 miles from Atomic Testing range at Yuca flat Nevada yeah they just blew [ __ ] up out there have you ever seen the map there's a video of the map of the United States and it's it's actually the map of the world but a lot of them happen in the United States and it shows all the nuclear tests that are happening all around the world like when they first did it like it shows the Trinity bomb boom and then it's like boom boom boom boom boom and then it gets into the 50s boom boom boom boom boom watch this go to the first one this goes on for 15 minutes I know but it's amazing we don't we don't have to watch the full 15 minutes can you like triple speed it or something doesn't it do that we did it the other day right playback speed normal I can do okay so just watch a little bit of this so the first one goes off boom boom they're doing them in the ocean cuz that's great for the fish it also at the top will tell you who's doing them so the first couple are us five of them so we've we're five in now it's the United States eight United States we're like I'm not sure if it works let's keep doing it these are all in the ocean by the way the so far the ones we've seen now Russia starts popping off oh [ __ ] Russia's got one boom they did a test and we're like oh [ __ ] we're going to have to do some more tests now you guys think you got a nuclear bomb [ __ ] we got 500,000 of them 16 17 now by this time in 1951 the United States has 24 and Russia has three this is 195 52 I mean here now now the United States has 39 now look at this we go up to 45 like quick and then Russia goes to eight they're trying to keep Australia snuck some in there oh did they really look at that they got three or or Great Britain didn't they just decided to set it off in Australia yeah that's probably what they did look at this United States has got 66 now we're just popping off so now these are all happening in Nevada you're seeing them all pop off in the United States uh so far at least in that same area which has got to be Nevada see they're look they're all popping off in that same
area it's all one we're just nuking one spot of the country and then we let gambling in that was 40 in like a year you know we oh my God that's so insane 139 yeah right here October 1956 we at 87 oh that's so insane and no one could tell them no here's the thing it's like they are the literally the people running the world back then and by March of 58 we're at 121 Bo how nuts question so we're setting off thermonuclear weapons going and pretty soon here probably some hydrogen bombs here you go 67 we're at 510 Jesus Christ and we talk about things that's so insane we talk about things that warm the planet yeah that did a lot of warming for sure I've never heard no one's mentioned the half a [ __ ] thousand nuclear bombs we set off here's the question I know that the The Fallout from um like meltdowns when reactors melt down that's pretty significant that's a big deal but how much of a big deal is the Fallout from bombs going off like there's people that live in Fukushima now right or or or Nagasaki right now right they they live in Japan in the areas that got hit they live in Hiroshima it's like it's okay there now right so how long is it like those areas where they did the test like what's it like now is it [ __ ] is it I did read at one point I was reading a lot about all the cancer problems that were having just like in Chernobyl that they were having in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in those areas uh and I don't know if they're still having those that my question was right after the bombs were the people that survived that they got all that horrible radiation and then I think it came in waves I think there was a lot of cancers in like the three to five years afterwards and then again in 1015 we could probably look it up um but it was it was a continuous back to this uh the Russia count jumps really fast here in one month it jump they did like 60 or so in one little area in looks like July no yeah September of 61 oh boy you see that it went 60 bombs went off that's the dude that's cruff that's the dude who banged his [ __ ] shoe on the on the desk remember he said We will bury you see find that that's that you want to think how scary things are now you want to think of what it was like in the 1960s when when Cru is banging his [ __ ] his heel on the let me hear it
because the the [ __ ] tone of his voice this is beat to the rhythmic shoes out oh they made a song out of course that's hilarious still two times also that that was a scary [ __ ] time and those were people that had lost millions and millions and millions of soldiers in World War II oh yeah where 20 million Russians died in yes speaker to kindly stand again aside once again we live on Earth not by the grace of God no sir by Your Grace by the strength and intelligence of the great people of the Soviet Union and all the peoples which are fighting for their independence you will not be able to smother the voice of the peoples The Voice of Truth which rings allowed and Will Go On ringing death and destruction to Colonial servitude away with it we must bury it and deeper the better he didn't bang his shoe so when does he bang his shoe it appear coverage but that other video I had definitely showed him bang shoe oh so they they edited it yeah maybe they like that's a little intense let's calm that guy down let's get him a vodka see there's something so yeah is bang a bunch of stuff that's like a gavel or something that could be a shoe I think that's a shoe looks like a shoe and it bounces yeah I think that's but this that's all theater it is all theater but it's a terrifying theater because they're actually killing people the way that they're controlling their own people is by threatening they're basically saying the United States is threatening our existence uhhuh yeah and that's the exact same thing that that yeah that the American government said about the Soviet Union and and that's all that those nuclear testings were it's it's a dick measuring it's just like look what we can do what we got it's all that's where communism goes kids it seems like a great idea it seems like we should all share money you know we should like we shouldn't be so materialistic and if we just pulled all our money together everybody would have enough we wouldn't have to worry about anything and then the government just tells you what your job is I just want someone to show me an example of it working it doesn't work just show me one it it works in small
groups that's where it if you can get a small group of bad [ __ ] well here's where it works you could be Communists you could make the argument that the Plains Indians tribes were communist you could make that right right right cuz they didn't understand possessions they would just well they they everything is so I'll take the Lakota for example everything was predicated your wealth was basically how many horses you had and and those horses you stole from another Nation another tribe you know the the the Lakota would steal from the pwy they would steal from the crow everybody stole from the crow they were all raiding each other which is important point that is kind of left out of the narrative and it's also and they would then they would obviously kidnap and one of the reasons that they did that was you know these are all familial tribes and it's survival so we need a new bloodline to get in there isn't that wild they also had low birth rates because of the riding of the horses and probably the low body fat too because it's a purely for the large for the most part it's a it's a pure protein diet yeah they're just eating meat they were Carn River completely yeah um yeah they would have you know there there were certain things miners lettuce and various you know annual you know seasonal fruits and stuff they could find things that they could find but but come winter man that's 6 months it's it's you're eating beef jerky you know yeah and horses and that's why they're following the Buffalo and yeah 100% I mean that is the way to do it like the thing is the people that live that way like communism worked in that thing because what did we remove from it money right right as soon as as soon as you take a trinket and you assign a value to that trinket then then people need to go be able to earn that trinket that's such a good point and and if you look at communism there's plenty of rich people in communist countries real Rich they just all work for the Communist Party yeah right um I did a lot of research on Cuba for a project and you know interestingly enough you know they're given a ration of food every month you get this you're you get a certain amount of eggs you're going get a certain amount of get a sack
of beans you're going to get your flour you're going to get your sugar you're going to get this um you're going to get your coffee and you're going to get your rum because we' prefer you stay nice and liquid and happy right but you're not going to get to choose where you live you're not going to get to choose your job yeah he not going to get to do that and they I I was studying up on this thing because I was writing about a fisherman and if you and they live on an island so you could think well they could just go out and catch fish and lobsters and eat that no that belongs to the state if you were caught with a lobster you're going to prison oh Jesus Christ yeah so so you sacrifice any freedom so yeah you may have you may have free healthc care how good is it I don't know um but but you don't get to determine your own path it's a gangster system and then they have their Athletics program which is just off the charts they produce some of the [ __ ] craziest a in Combat Sports particularly in Combat Sports I know I know they doing other things but TF Phil Stevenson who was the guy who was the um the uh rival to Muhammad Ali but he never left amateur boxing he just won the gold medal I don't know how many [ __ ] years he won in a row but he everybody was like if we could get this guy out of Cuba this is a guy that could actually test Muhammad Ali he was that good really and he was just in the in their Cuban program and everyone was terrified of them because amateur boxers they reach a certain level of ability and they get a good record going and either they go to the Olympics and if they can medal that can ensure they get a big purse in their first few fights Olympic gold medalist Pernell Whitaker yeah crowd America America but if they don't they just get enough experience where they can go professional but in Cuba they never go professional so you get guys that are 15 16 years into a boxing career that's essentially always been professional always been with the most elite coaches the most Elite Sports drugs like whatever the [ __ ] they have whatever they're not natural like you're you're going to take whatever the [ __ ] we give you and that's what they did with Russia as well and China so how many times did he win the gold medal three golds in a
row Jesus Christ three golds in a row that's 12 years of gold medals then all these other Golds too other events yeah all these different events I mean he was the [ __ ] man he was the [ __ ] man so what you're essentially dealing with is like a Mike Tyson type dude who's at like that level of like World Championship caliber boxing but you're having him fight amateurs so everybody else is just trying to get together a career so they can go off into the professionals this guy can never be professional so he is a professional so he's the best in the [ __ ] world but he's just not getting paid to fight Muhammad Ali on television right he might I mean Ali might have beat him Frasier might have beat him Foreman might might some of those guys might have beat him but he never got we never got to see it but what we did see is like that caliber of boxing come out of Cuba some of the scariest guys that have ever fought in the UFC have come out of Cuba yoel Romero the freakiest of freak athletes of all time came out of Cuba really yeah he's like he never won the gold in the UFC but he got to the [ __ ] game when he was like 36 really yeah man he's like in his 40s now and just jacked natural still fighting I told the story before I apologize for people have listened but the UFC brought him to a doctor because he had a broke his orbital bone in a fight you got and they brought him to his doctor and the doctor uh contacts UFC and says where did you get this guy and he goes he's one of our Fighters they go I've never seen a guy like him he goes yeah yeah he's he's amazing right he no no no you understand like I've never seen a human being like this I've been a doctor for 35 years or whatever it was he goes the tendons in his eyes are three times larger than a normal person's he goes he's already healing he goes the bone that's fractured in his orbital is very healing it started to heal it's like where'd you get this guy where the [ __ ] did you get this guy have you ever seen him wait I just want you to see what he looks like that's Yom bro and he's in his 40s here in his 40s and he's a [ __ ] amazing guy an amazing guy he came in here and did a podcast with me and Joey Diaz translated so he can only speak limited limited
English but he was talking about Cuba he was like where you at in Cuba there's so many so many guy they're killers and killers and you become a a machine you become a machine and I was like oh my God but that guy went through so that that is also a part of what cube is they're forced into this if you were at the best level you get to eat three times a day yeah but if you're at the other level you get to eat twice a day and you don't get to sleep in the good places you get to sleep in the [ __ ] places so all these guys are training with each other all fighting for these spots literally for food [ __ ] crazy Stevenson then 22 years old was rewarded with a house for himself in Havana and another for himself and his family in I don't know how to say that delicius delus uh Stephenson later recalled I had no idea a house in delicius was going to be so big when I was shown the plane I said what is this a bunker of the plans rather I said what is this a bunker um so they they gave him stuff they gave him like houses and [ __ ] yeah they they would treat them well they did that also for the sovet athletes right like like guys like Kellan the the guy who's that's another experiment they literally called him the experiment really you don't know who he is no I should have showed you the photo in the gym there's a photo of him that I have out there just constantly I need a constant reminder of what a [ __ ] I am and it's this photo of Kellan who was like 62300 lb and moved like a cat oh I know I know exactly who this guy is yeah he would literally his move was to pick guys up and smash them into the ground so look at his face he was beating you up with the world so everybody else was trying to wrestle and what Kellan was doing was wrestling so that he could beat you up with the world he's hitting you boom into the world with all of his weight and all of your weight and he just kept peeking people up slaming and he would let them go back to the ground and he' pick them up again and slam them and he did it to everybody nobody could stop it he was that much of a freak and his parents were little like Little Folks regular siiz folks 5'5 5'7 just little tiny folks and he's just this [ __ ] human cat he just got a do of whatever their best jeans were so that's
the other side of Communism like they'll force you into this program and The Killers the guys like this is him look look what you do to people the guys is a [ __ ] that's a national champion from some country and Carell and just got a hold of him he's just going to [ __ ] him up boom so he's just throwing you into the ground over and over and over and over again Watch how he does this Boom the [ __ ] amount of power involved in that is absurd that's a 260lb man and he's just hurling him around so that's the plus side of Communism you can get some amazing athletes if you do it right you're farming athletes yeah I mean they're essentially like the best of the best doing it that way we could do it better here for sure we definitely could do it we have the best athlet for sure if you looked at like you watch the NFL you watch the UFC or watch the best athletes are are right here even if they've moved here to become a part of this like Francis and Gano who came to America they're the best athletes are here it seems there's a lot of really good ones in other countries they're real close but man when it comes to like super freak athletes there's capitalism seems to be the way to go it seems it seems to be that's especially capitalism if you don't drug test them well that's the best A little sloppy on the drug testing it's going to help yeah that'd be nice guys if I was running [ __ ] like like I would do you know the UFC has usada and then they got rid of usada now they had drug drug free sport which is going to do a similar program but just do it more logically in their perspective um the usad would like sometimes wake Fighters up at 4:00 in the morning or 6 o'clock in the morning the day of the weigh-ins which terrible terrible cuz they're cutting weight and they're just right they're exhausted they're dehydrated and now you're going to test them on the day of a weighin that's so stupid like you don't have to do that you can catch them if they're doing something you're going to catch them and if they're not doing something let them go through this [ __ ] insane process without disturbing them the weight cut is an insane process and no one people have never seen it before don't know how nutty it is but I think they should be able to do some stuff I think they
should be able to do some stuff I really do I think it's science I think it helps you heal better I think there should be like rational limits of what you can and can't do you know I don't think you should be able to do full-on like TR and steroids and wild [ __ ] no but can you can you do peptide therapy can you do no that's my problem that is 100% my problem with if you look at and I've done it if you look at the at the NFL's rule of all the [ __ ] you can't take yeah like one of those guys could go to GNC and pick something up and end up testing POS it happens with the UFC all the time and it happens with guys that 100% are not taking steroids yeah they went got some creatine MH yeah and and there was who knows what they mixed it on or they Crea Spike too high or did something well that was one thing that UFC's drug program did fantastic job of if you went to the usada website there was a full list of all of the things that if you bought you would piss hot so it's like whenever they find like a contaminate cuz like one of the things we found out when we started on it when we started this uh supplement company with my friend Aubrey and myself when we started making this uh vitamin called Alpha Brain we had a certain amount of ingredients that were in there and so then we would get it third party tested and so then we get it third party tested and probably tested like um you guys have uh this in there too like what is that why is that in there well it turns out when you're getting your stuff mixed they're not really cleaning those barrels out real good right they're just tossing [ __ ] in and right so if you're buying like [ __ ] Super Pump from The Vitamin Shop whatever it is you know that has like something it's supposed to boost your testosterone and they're making in the same place where they're making real roids yeah you're GNA get a little it's G to get it some of the stuff that works works cuz it's roids right you know mean that's the thing like those gas station dick pills it's probably just Viagra uh-uh not Accord I've never tried them but not according to my friend Brian who was a a gas station dick pill addict for a while he says they're steroids he say they have to be steroids he they make you so aggressive and he they give you so much energy and he goes your dick is hard as
a rock he goes I was addicted to him so there's just to see a big spike in sales of like dragon fire or whatever they call that [ __ ] this they did find out that a lot of had Viagra in it and it's one of the reasons why they kept getting pulled but they would get pulled and then they'd come back with a new name so they're all done like this foreign companies and sneaky companies so they' it would be like you know like black rhino would be one and then like that would be like white rhino would be the new one like you got got rhinos we got the white rhinos okay give me one of them and people were essentially going to gas stations and buying these wild unknown amphetamines spliced in with Viagra spliced in with steroids what exactly in Rhino pills some Rhino products contain uh seden sedil or tfil according to the fdda these are respectively the active ingredients of Viagra andalis yeah but I think they also had some other stuff in there man they add some other stuff in there the top the minerals herbs vitamins enzymes amino acids it doesn't have to say what they are right could be maybe also steroids maybe also maybe also yeah there's some stuff that you could take in oral form that I guarantee they that's not expensive and if you can get people like my friend Brian who's like completely addicted to these [ __ ] things he was buying them all the time he did didn't he do like reviews of gas station dick pills Brian redb you're the man oh that's he did right he did reviews yeah I mean he talked about it enough they were all reviews here he's a character man this is a dude who uh when Pepsi spice got made he developed a website called Pepsis spice.com cuz they didn't have the the they didn't have the domain so bought the domain so he bought Pepsi spice and then documented him drinking Pepsi spice all day long and horrible diseases happened to him he [ __ ] his life's Fallen apart he's losing weight he was making it up he just made up this fake blog about dying while drinking too much Pepsi spice really yeah this is the dick dick pill guy he's he's a maniac did Pepsi ever go like hey I think they did I think they did and I think you to our attorney yeah I think they [ __ ] up though and not getting the domain and this guy had the Main and then they're
concerned is this guy actually drinking 15 gallons of Pepsi spice a day does he really is he having [ __ ] Cera like what's happening to this kid but how did we get on this tangent it was all about the UFC U allowing peptides oh yeah and we got there from nuclear waste and we got there from uh coal Fusion that's a pretty good it's been nice little run yeah yeah it's um we're in a weird time in this country where where people are so divided that they don't even want to look at the actual truth of things they have like an ideological position on things they just want to only hold on to that and never open their mind up to other people's perspectives and it's also at a time where more people have access to information than ever before so it's so easy to change your perspective today because there's so much information you you could always get new information and there seems to be a between both political parties a a a feverish need for control that I don't ever recall you know you can watch the the debates between there's a there's a real funny funny one between Reagan and Mondale and uh and Reagan says at one point you know age he was 74 maybe when he was running for re-election um and his age was an issue that that might be an issue in this upcoming election um that'll be spring chicken in this election yeah and and Reagan said um he said listen I'm not going to allow uh age to be an issue in this debate I will not hold my uh my my the other candidates uh Youth and inexperience against him I mean he just turned it into a joke but it was a joke and Mondale laughed I think they shook hands it was a it was a civilized debate about what's the way to run this country um that's pretty quick right there he did look pretty old back then campaign I am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's Youth and inexperience and what mundale laughed yeah what a better time back then what a better time these two guys are in a debate and he just like oh you got me good job he just took it on the chin yeah like a man how come they can't do that anymore look even the [ __ ] I might add Mr Tru I might add that um it was senica or it was Cicero I don't know which that said if it was not for the elders correcting the mistakes
of the young there would be no state like to head for the fence and try to catch that one before it goes over but but I'll go on to another question so it was a time when you really feel like and forget political leanings um both of those guys it seemed uh you know they had different ideas about the way to get to the same place yeah and I think we're in a very unique place right now where no one's even talking about where we're trying to go this is really about thought and belief no one's talking policies I haven't heard anyone talk about various policies in freak four years the what we're talking about is which by the way when when you're talking about what you can believe and what's this and we're going to argue about arbitrary things that aren't arguable really um and we keep our focus on that and everyone's so impassioned about their position on some social issue uh that we have no solution to uh then you don't focus on a $34 trillion debt you don't focus on the fact that we're so reduced in our and our position on the world stage there was a there was a time when our our military and our political resolve was so aligned that nobody wanted to [ __ ] with us and we could sit there and say hey guys we're not going to have a war in Ukraine we're just not going to do it and they go okay you know if you think about 911 and and George W was not a very popular president at that moment in time and and people have forgotten that Al Gore and the Democratic party and I didn't vote for George W bush um they they questioned they contested that election then they said it was it was rigged they said it was this they took it to the Supreme Court it was we didn't have a president really for almost two months was that the dangling Chad yeah that was the hanging chad hanging ch um and then cut to you know a year later and uh and and he's woefully unpopular uh and then 911 happens and he gave a speech the best speech of his of his entire uh presidency I thought uh that galvanized the nation and I remember and I lived in La at the time when that happened and uh and everybody was they'd see a fireman or a policeman and they'd say hey thank you for your
service like let me buy you a cup of everybody in La yeah and there was a sense of the sacrifice these guys and these men and women took on and we were really unified uh moving forward against what we needed to do to protect our sovereignty and protect the people of the country then it got [ __ ] up then it became about oil and became about a bunch of other things but there was a time that time was the best of us that time I remember driving to work and I was driving down the street and every [ __ ] car had an American flag on it yeah my friend Jay London used to sell them sell these little American flag everyone had them everyone had them they're this is Los Angeles what this is as liberal a city as there they W they woke right the [ __ ] up and everybody came together and people were nicer for a while it was interesting it was a really unique time um but it didn't last you're right it didn't last but also was like wait why are we going to Iraq it got real squirly real fast well that's and the weapons of mass destruction thing and all that other stuff it's like God damn it like we had the world's faith and love for a little bit but we did we did what we do we did what we always do yeah we found a way to make a business of it well it's what people do that's their job unun it's human nature and you're not going to find it you know I consider you can pick the historical moment and we can find someone who exploited it that's why it's fascinating to watch um something like 1883 because you're seeing human beings exploiting human beings in this very raw way like one thing that really got me was the robbers the groups of robbers cuz I didn't really take that into consideration either but there was it wasn't just that you had to worry about the commanche you had to worry about these groups of robbers would just show up and kill everybody that actually H you know if you look at statistics Bandits killed more of these immigrants moving North and people on the Oregon Trail than than the Native Americans did wow I never even considered that until the show I mean I knew they existed but I didn't think of them as that big of a factor for whatever reason you got well it's this it's an area with absolutely no governance no rule of law right
whatsoever none and I think that's something that people need to be thinking about now you know we've got I always think what's what what what am I leaving my son what's the world like in 30 years for him right and decisions made now we sit here and break rules uh that are clearly established in a Constitution which has existed for a couple hundred years and and held this place together um when we start manipulating that document to to maintain relevance for a very short-term goal for a politician or for one specific cause whatever that cause is when we start manipulating that and abandoning the rule of law yeah when we start doing that 30 years from now that Benchmark is what's going to be used against all the people that pushed it right now that's what scares me right now about all this talk about primaries about limiting people from primaries there's been F see if you can find this they were saying that many states have chosen to only have Joe Biden on to to vote for in the primaries and and you know it's that sounds like such a bad idea here's my this is my point where and and you people could think of Donald Trump however they want to think of Donald Trump it doesn't really matter who the individual is um a a a court in Colorado is going to essentially uh make a decision based upon uh a trial that has not happened yet in other words they're basically saying he's guilty of something that he hasn't been tried for and therefore they're removing him from a ballot right um and and right now maybe the Democrats uh feel as though they're justified in that action because they're so terrified of what Donald Trump may do if he becomes president again uh but are they thinking about what's going to happen in 20 years or 30 years because this has now been established and at some point the Republicans will gain control they will get a majority in the Senate again we look through history it just swings back and forth it's going to for eight years it's this and eight years it's that so another party will be in control and that party can use all of these manipulations of rules to maintain control and and that's when you start to have a dictatorship the end of the day regardless of who left right doesn't
make a difference exactly and if you let that happen Biden won't have challengers in North Carolina 2024 primary election state democratic party decides North Carolina Democratic party declined to allow any Biden Challengers on the ballot for the 2024 primary they made a similar effort efor in 2020 attempting to put only Donald Trump on the ballot that year both of those are terrible ideas both of those are terrible ideas this is why in order to get on the ballot you need to have donors in the state and actively campaigning in the state neither of them have been here this cycle who are the other people Dean Phillips and MaryAnn Williamson how crazy is it who's Dean who the [ __ ] are you Dean I never heard your voice I never seen your face minesa come on let me see Dean IM if Dean pulls it off maybe Dean's the man I don't even know isn't Marian Williamson like a self-help writer um that's what it said right there yeah she's a self-help writer self from California I want to think highly of everybody without prejudice but if you tell me you're a self-help author from California I automatically what kind of that's like a Min she's going to have to do a lot of counseling when she gets to DC yeah I mean she going to self-help the world maybe she's maybe she's good I don't know but either one of them have almost no chance against Biden anyway right so why why are they limiting People's Choice you should never limit people's ability to choose I mean maybe those people can get on a debate stage and rock the world and all of a sudden there's a big movement behind them but that's supposed to be what it's about kids that's supposed to be what the whole thing is about if someone comes along and they more compelling candidate you're supposed to get them it's it's not the party is not supposed to be able to decide who the guy is against the will of the people because that's a lot like communism kids it it's it's it is it's fascist it is it's fascist it's crazy it's crazy that you think you can do it because you think your team is right we're the we're the good guys well if you think you're so right then why won't you allow your positions to be challenged so that you can prove how much better they are because they have the ability to inact control and when
you give people the ability to enact control they always take it that's why you have to always resist them moving those [ __ ] boundaries because it's just human nature you could call it evil you could say all these different things you called greedy it's human nature to want more and when you have a certain amount of control you can get a lot more things done with more control you try to get more control and then you try to figure out strategies how do we what what can we do in order to make uh it important that we pass a new law so now we have the ndaa now we have the Patriot Act now we have this now okay now we got a lot more control now we have the NSA spying on everybody much more control it's much and every time this happens you get more and more problem the problem is those politicians it doesn't matter if you're a congresswoman from Indiana or California or Texas yes you you were elected by a certain district and you're representing that District but you're also representing every other citizen of the United States you're a US Congress person okay and you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution above and beyond everything else and they're manipulating the document for very short-term game and I'm not blaming they're all doing it and and and people need to wake up to that because the they're going to they're going to manipulate it in a way that is going to look there's there's plenty of countries in this in this world that have elections uh they have a now we're not a democracy we're a republic but they have their free elections and they got one candidate yeah in Russia right that candidate always seems to win crazy overwhelming majority weird isn't that shocking crazy how that happens and anybody who's a rle Rouser gets shot sounds good sounds perfect it's just we should know this by now you know listen how about you leave the document alone will let you keep insider trading just like fing we look aside I'm not hating the game I'm not hating did you see that I saw a really interesting thing about these Senators on both sides that have been in for 20 30 years they make 175,000 a year and they worth of millions 85 million 195 million they really investors oh really that's it they're really good investors some people are good at it okay maybe not so
good at it sorry they just they're preent they're like you know maybe there's a room that you can go to in the white house and you can just you know the universe gives you we we've hit a point to where and this was a pretty popular conversation in the 80s and 90s and then it just disappeared I think we got to start talking about term limits yeah that's a good idea term limits a good idea when you see someone like Nancy Pelosi cuz she's like the best at riding out that way oh yeah day Traer husband yeah how about Feinstein she wrote it out until she was literally dying and they're telling her who to vote for yeah they're just pushing her out there I think maybe it's going to probably take two terms to even figure out what you're doing in the House of Representatives my favorite is Mitch McConnell oh dude when he just switches off that dude just switches off hey we've got some octogenarians up in there right now yeah once you switch off once you can't drive anymore okay you're not allowed to drive you just switch off okay Grandpa Grandpa give me the [ __ ] keys yeah okay and so you're driving what what do you what are you doing you what are you do when you're involved in important decisions for the entire world should there be age limits [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] yeah or at least an aptitude test an aptitude test but also dependent upon future aptitude tests and future physical fitness evaluations yeah that's what I think I think if you you can't just say every 75-year-old is the same as every other 75-year-old cuz look at Robbie Kennedy Bobby Kennedy Jr is like how old is he 69 he looks [ __ ] great fit he's fit he's always at Gold's Gym he works out jeans for some strange reason I don't know why he does that it's some old school [ __ ] I guess it's some old skied in them back in the day Scotch Guard their jeans and go skiing yeah um that's where I actually I first met him I met him in Aspen just randomly really yeah I was up there with I don't ski I used to ski but my last accent I was like that's right I did the same thing I'm like dous I have a friend of mine who has a fake knee because of it he went SK he tore his knee apart and he had to get an artificial knee yeah [ __ ] that I know it's fun I get it but anyway I ran into him there and uh he looks
[ __ ] jacked look at him yeah that's a 69y old guy now there's a lot of dudes that I know that are 69 that don't look anything like that I mean no disrespect Ron White but put Ron White's body next to Robert Kennedy junor body the guy's [ __ ] really fit that's fake that's fake yeah that one's fake but the the real ones are very impressive my point is it's like okay that guy I don't have a problem with his age at all yeah you know he's obviously very bright he's constantly writing books he's he's a brilliant Environmental Lawyer but then there's other guys like they get to like like he you think of that okay that's only five years younger than Reagan in that video yeah there's a difference yeah there's a difference no somewhere at 70 you should have to take uh some type of aptitude test and a physical fitness test and then maybe every two years after yes for sure and maybe for driving I'm pretty sure after a certain age uh you have to have an annual driver's test is it yeah something like that maybe in some states it varies I don't know but you should definitely because my grandpa when before he died woo he would take me out and I'd be like oh [ __ ] and my grandpa had an old Buick this big ass was it a Chrysler Chrysler old Chrysler this big ass [ __ ] car so it was like one of those boats like when you turn the wheels like and he couldn't see anymore like he and he didn't want to admit it so he didn't want to not you know he didn't want to not drive but he couldn't see it was [ __ ] sketchy and he couldn't drive at night at all he just take us out we were like seven like gripping the [ __ ] seats like Jesus grapa and those old Chryslers you know there's about this much play in the wheel very yeah you got so much play you can't make any fast maneu they don't handle it all yeah that for for running the [ __ ] most important arm me the world has ever known yeah you probably should have aptitude tests if you're going to be the president like there should be there should be some way we can tell if there's like a foolproof way we can tell you're not falling apart but do you really think Joe Biden would pass that test he wouldn't have passed that test before he became president and he's aging rapidly while he's president every EV every president in my lifetime you've
watched them think about some of the younger presidents George W bush and Obama you know they went in there and their 40s with a full head of dark hair yep and that is not how they left they got scared I mean that the pressure of that job must insane and the and and you know what it's like and this is there's no comparing the two but but just how ragged you can get run if you're going to go do a comedy show here and then there and then there and you're just living out of a suitcase and then you got to say this you got to be on I mean it takes a toll um when I go direct I mean if I go on a six-month which I'm about to a six-month seven-month run of directing every single day where I have to make decisions from 6:00 a.m. until 9:00 at night then I got to watch footage till midnight I get 3 four hours of sleep at night for 6 months I'm a [ __ ] wreck you were telling me about season 3 of Yellowstone that you essentially wrote it on Saturdays yeah I was directing a movie uh with Angie with Angelina Jolie in New Mexico and I had to they had a start date that that by God they were going to start didn't matter they didn't have scripts they were going to start and and I had to you know we would shoot do a night shoot Friday night I'd finish about seven in the morning and I'd come home and sleep till two and wake up out of coffee and write The Script Saturday till you know 1 2 in the morning wake up Sunday do it do it again finish the script send it off oh my God I did it 10 10 what 10 episodes I did it 10 weeks in a row [ __ ] killed me how do you keep your brain active during that time are you careful about what you eat are you drinking a lot of water very yeah yeah I would imagine like your body is on the edge you can't [ __ ] around I'm very very conscious of what I eat you know I try to be pretty conscious anyway but I'm a freak when when we're directing do you take any neut Tropics or anything like that so I take I take a big mix of different things I take mesal factors I take uh I take inmen um and I'll do like a thomy alpha which is a which is a peptide that's an anti-inflammatory for your body um and I'm and I'm just really rigid I do a B12 shot every other day on set um just anything that I can do to keep me alert and and you know because you'll get what
they call the movie flu where you just just get run down you just I mean the hours are you know it's 14 16 hours a day yeah and then and you have deadlines and you have a budget and you have to do it that way I mean the bud yeah we have a budget but you've seen my shows they they they they they let me run so I have the CGI in 1883 I was like this is insane because I don't want to give anything away but there's a scene with a storm where you're like oh my God like you can do some wild [ __ ] today well the other thing is yes but the other thing is I waited till a day was 60 M hour winds to shoot that oh perfect I let I let God do a lot of the CGI nice they're like there's a terrible storm coming in and I said let's Swip the schedule yeah because there's no way you could ever have done that with their hair and all the things flying around yeah yeah it was it's [ __ ] great man it's a great show how about that ending it was rough it was rough like I was just walking around my house like two hours afterwards and the funny thing is I told the audience what was going to happen in the first scene yeah I know that was a wild thing you did yeah that's it's like you're waiting for it throughout all the episodes you know there's only 10 so you're like when how does this go down it did it definitely added a layer of anticipation it's brilliant man it really is it's one of the best shows I've ever seen and I shot 70% of it 80% of it at the 4 sixes how the [ __ ] is Tim McGraw and Faith Hill so good that's crazy isn't it how are they so good at acting did you well let me tell you what every singer can act just like every comedian can act um dude he's [ __ ] incredible did you ever see him in uh in Friday night Lights the movie no that film that and I know Pete ber came on uh the show with you here Pete was a a big mentor of mine um and and that to me is a perfect Sports film it's if you haven't seen that movie you got to see that movie it's Billy Bob Thorton and Tim mcra plays this abusive dad in it and it is I mean he's raw but he is he's the well runs deep with that guy well you can tell in that movie man or in your show rather he you just 100% Buy he is a stone cold killer yeah and Faith she hadn't acted before we were just hoping incredible and she brought
it incredible yeah but also it has to help that they're a real life married couple you know there like there's like real like you there's like layers of chemistry when they're on the set together and and the subtext and every yeah it was and then the heavy moments I don't want to give anything away but some of the heavy heavy moments between the two of them you're like oh my God imagine deal deal with that the [ __ ] [ __ ] those people had to deal with it's Insanity it's heavy dude it's a heavy show but it's really good and I think it's a really important thing for people to be aware of that that's a pretty AC it's obviously fiction but it's a pretty accurate representation of how it went down yeah I mean the circumstances are imaginary but the tools and the things I mean that's how they died and that's how they lived yeah you know um when you look back at all the civilizations that have existed that have risen and Fallen and you know and the idea that that's happening to America now like this is what's happened on this continent over the last 400 years is one of the most insane stories in all of history in all of history I mean there's some insane stories insane you know Empires that ruled the world for long periods of time you know the Portuguese and the the British and the Mongols of course and the Vikings but what the [ __ ] happened here is so crazy that there was a country full of nomadic Native American tribes that were Waring with each other all the time and living off the land and living in harmony with the land and then all of a sudden boats start showing up and then within 50 60 100 years 200 years it's just flooded with Europeans like a mass invasion of a place that had people have been living on it for 20,000 plus years yeah maybe longer you know they they found some you know the Clovis point that they found in New Mexico which dated back to like 12,000 BC and and I could go on a sidebar with these archaeologists when they find something that's the oldest they will defend it to the death they do not want anything older to be found well yeah they that's a real problem with Egypt too but they found another point of some kind in New Mexico that dates back another 8,000 years yeah they shatters yeah yes that's what it was Footprints Footprints I think it's
22,000 years it shatters also that's just what they found yeah like who's to say there's not one that's 35,000 years old we yeah this we're saying that the oldest thing we found is the oldest thing that's ridiculous which is just [ __ ] human it's ridiculous yeah well that's what they're realizing now with human civilizations that it's very likely that there was a mass disruption of human civilization from asteroid impacts or something like that and we had to rebuild and that's what the pyramids are and that's what a lot of the structures they found even in North America and you know catastrophes do happen and I know we don't want to believe it it's just like the vegans don't want to believe they're causing any death when they buy their kale yeah it's kind of the same thing we don't want to we don't want to believe that this could ever fall apart and we could be right back to square one right back to living like nomadic tribal people but that 100% Can Happen well you know what you know Einstein's famous saying when they asked him what would be the weapon of Destruction in World War III and he says I have no idea but I know what it is in World War I they said what do it he go sticks yeah it probably doesn't even have to be the war though that's the problem the problem is we're in a [ __ ] Shooting Gallery we're spinning around in a shooting gallery of massive chunks of space debris that literally is the stuff that forms planets yeah and it's everywhere there's so much of it out there there's hundreds of thousands of near Earth objects and there's a whole asteroid belt and if one of them collides with another one of them's coming in from some other place and it hits one and just sends it right towards us yeah and some of them are [ __ ] huge and when those things hit that's a WAP civilization yeah whatever people are left good luck good luck you're going to live like barbarians for the next thousand 2,000 years before people reinvent civilization again yeah and and it'll be interesting to see if it's reinvented the same I don't think it will be I think I think there's a certain amount of genetic memory in people and I think even if something horrible happened and we had to start right now from scratch
and rebuild civilization I think I still think we would be better off than people who tried to do that 5,000 years ago or even 10,000 years ago I I think the human the the the collective human consciousness is something other than just what you know and what you've read I think there's some [ __ ] sh that's in you in genetics I think people are better at stuff now than they've ever been before but clearly if that's the case clearly whoever built the pyramids they must have been around way longer they must have been they must have been able to have a civilization that thrived way longer than ours can't figure out how they built it and and there's something that I just read about if you look at its longitude and latitude it's like a perfect one one millionth yeah it's almost perfectly true north south east and west yeah it's amazing and it's whoever did that probably was along the same lines that we're on they just had way more time to do it they had you know thousands and thousands and thousands of years well we've only had a few hundred few hundred of craziness a few hundred of the Industrial Revolution combustion engines you know utilization of fossil fuels all the [ __ ] that we're doing now nuclear fuel nuclear weapons this is real real real real real recent so if they had some more time than we did that that's what explains that [ __ ] to me and I think that if we go and then there's a few Barbarian people left of you know few thousand all over the planet and they eventually redo civilization they'll probably do a slightly better job I think I think each group does a slightly better job the last but it probably takes forever it'll probably take another four or 5,000 years for civilization to really emerge again are you familiar with the I'm fascinated with anthropology me too human anthropology and the fact that we now know that there were four different human species living on the planet at the same [ __ ] time yeah at the same time yeah maybe more yeah if homoerectus was still around too you got the denarians you got neanthal you've got your homo sapian and then there was there was another off some Indonesian Island yeah the homo Flores florensis that's how you say it those little hobbit people yeah they think they're
still some of those Al alive somewhere there's a thing in um some parts of the country they call them the or pend deck and uh the in jungles people have reported seeing these little tiny people little tiny hairy people like you know 30 years ago 50 years ago 100 years ago and so there's this there's this myth of this oring pen deck and they never took it seriously until they found these little people on the island of Flores and like some of these jungles are just so insanely dense like in Vietnam and places like that like who knows there might be a small population of these things still alive today or were alive a few uncontacted tribes there's that one in India that every time somebody tries to go there North Sentinel Island they kill them yeah well they didn't used to you know when they started killing him there was a guy named uh Commander y Maurice P morrice wanted to make a movie about that Maurice Vidal Portman yeah he was a pervert and he'd run around uh fondling people and drawing pictures of them making them dress up like Roman soldiers and talk about the size of their dicks did you know about that yeah yeah it's like this one a testicles the size of a Sparrow's egg like he was doing science he's a little pervert and this guy uh he was responsible for getting a bunch of them sick and uh a few people Di and they they even kidnapped people and they tried to raise their kids somewhere else I think they kidnapped some people but uh that was a very hostile interaction with white people so from then on they were like [ __ ] like you see them start killing them they're going to give you you know herpes and they're throwing Spears at helicopters they're going to make fun of your balls like like so that one guy he just like did you know air quote science just traveled around to all these islands and [ __ ] with these people yeah and now they were like yeah now they'll [ __ ] kill you they will [ __ ] kill you they kill everybody you can't even get out of the boat they're already shooting arrows in your direction now they have metal too because they took one of the um uh boats that got stranded there they had to rescue these uh people that were stuck on this boat because the north Centinal people were coming for them in the boat and they literally had to rescue them in
time but they got onto the boat and then the next time they saw them they noticed that they had metal weapons really so yeah so they think they've salvaged pieces of the boat and turned it into knives and sharpened them and stuff like that really yeah it's crazy because there's only 39 of them and um they're the direct descendants of people who left Africa 60,000 years ago and because there's such a small number of them on this island the size of Manhattan they just never passed like how humans were 100,000 years ago or whatever it was 60,000 years ago they're they're exactly that they live exactly the way people lived back then which is really wild to see you know uncontacted tribes man that is that's one of the weirdest Windows into the variability who we who we are yeah who we are but also the variability that you can have people that are driving around electric cars talking on cell phones and at the same time some guy is sneaking up on a monkey in the jungle with a bow and arrow with a poison tip on it and you know and and his family's been doing it that way forever yeah forever yeah and they're both happening at the same time you know that's kind of the wildest part of the story of the people coming to America is that the Native American people lived in this like one of the things that's really the way was so appealing one of the things that's so interesting about the reports from back then was that people that had left modern air quote western civilization and moved in with Indians and started Living in Indian cultures they never wanted to go back yeah but whenever they took people from like when it was cynth Anne Parker when they kidnapped her when she was nine and then they rescued her when she was a woman she wanted to go back she escaped twice yeah she's like I don't want to be your this life sucks yeah like that's the life like the living in the tent and [ __ ] chasing the Buffalo that's the life everybody said that nobody wanted to go the other way there wasn't people that were dying to like get educated and [ __ ] be forced into you know jobs well quana who was who was extremely smart as as the as the last chief of of the commanche nation and then when he finally when he finally went to the
reservation in Oklahoma and they said okay here you are he was smart enough in stud enough to uh to make a business of it and you know there was a few ranchers samber Bernett who founded the 4 sixes and WT Wagner and um Charles Goodnight who needed somewhere to graze their cattle uh because that part of West Texas was having a terrible drought Oklahoma had a lot of good grass and they went up and talked to quana and said hey could we you know graze our cattle here we'll pay you and he's like you'll pay us yeah we'll pay you all right yeah I'll do that and um so it became a it became a great you know partnership that they had and did that for years uh really until Congress got wind of it and they were like H we don't we don't need those Indian people making money that's not we should Outlaw that which they tried to do and then uh Burke Beret reached out to Teddy Roosevelt and had him come out and he hunted uh wolves on the uh on the Kami reservation then down at the 46s as well and um and and they convinced him that he got a two-year stay before they finally outlawed it um wow but in that time uh quana needed a house because he had so many people coming to dignitaries and governors and Teddy and no one would obviously give him a loan so uh good night and and Bernett gave quana of the money to build the star housee where he where he lived and House people and and in his bedroom they called the star house because he painted the ceiling with stars and he would sleep on the floor not in the bed stare up at the ceilings on his the stars on the ceiling wow well I think until people have actually spent a night camping looking up at the stars where there's no light pollution at all they don't understand it they don't know the appeal it's an amazing experience it's like one of the coolest things you could ever see in your life and you're denied it you're denied it because of Advanced Technology that allows us to light the streets we let lit the streets but we cut off the m Majesty of the heavens cuz it it it humbles you in a way and it grounds you in a way that's soothing and I think that's part of the reason why a lot of people there's a lot of reasons why people have anxiety but I I I definitely think that a factor is we're disconnected from the universe we're
disconnected from all the things that our ancestors saw when they would go to bed at night and they' look up they'd be like wow like before you went to bed what you saw was wow yeah like look at that well think about I you've been to New York yeah I lived there for I don't know six months and and in that time one day it hit me that I hadn't seen a star and my feet hadn't touched anything but conrete for six months and I and I I thought I can't I can't live like this that's not good for you but there's people who have lived their entire lives like that oh yeah there's people my friend Ari loves it he loves living like that I mean he goes to other places too a lot he travels a lot so maybe that you know those people that lifelong New Yorkers that they have to little record the sound of New York so that when they go somewhere quiet to sleep they could play that [ __ ] sirens and helicopters camping with a guy who does that you [ __ ] dick yeah there's something about the Stars that's to me it's also like the ocean and the mountains in the daytime in the daytime the oceans and the mountains offer a similar thing like when you see the mountains when you're it's one thing to see photos of the mountain but when you're in their presence they look beautiful in photos but they don't you don't feel them when you're driving through a mountain range and you see like snow cack Peaks and these beautiful Meadows of grass and big trees it's like wow it's like the most amazing art that you could ever experience but it's nature and I think Nature has a way of getting us attracted to places that are fertile and places that would hold life and so when you see the mountains and you see these trees and valleys and a lake and like this is very fertile these fertile places are beautiful to us just like fertile people are beautiful to us you know see women with large breasts and narrow hips and big waist or a big butt and you're like oh narrow waist and big hips you're like oh she could give birth she's fertile like this is what's attractive perfect symmetry oh she has good jeans she's fertile oh look at him he's big and tall and handsome he's he's fertile there's
like there's something beautiful about that to us it's just Nature's Way of attracting it to us so when you're denied like this thing that literally gives you a certain amount of energy when you if you go through a beautiful place there's something about it like wow it's like you're not just living life you're living life in the presence of this greatness this insane Vision that you can see all around you I think it humbles people in a way and it grounds people in a way and I I think the city does the exact opposite I agree does the exact opposite it gives you this weird energy this like [ __ ] you hey tax it's it's an angry energy it's a it's a it's a you know there's there's herds and there's packs right herds are the prey animals packs are the hunters and the city feels full of herds and the the country feels full of packs yeah that makes sense people much more self-sufficient one of the more impressive things that I found when I uh I went to um Alaska once and we were in Anchorage and we were doing shows out there and I was like these people feel different they feel like more sturdy like I guess if you just live in a place that gets cold as [ __ ] and it doesn't even like it wasn't even dark out and it was like 2:00 in the morning it was still like light outside this is a weird place to live and these people are literally at the mercy of Nature and they're surrounded by grizzly bears wolves and moose like everywhere you go you could see a moose you can see moose they show up on college campuses and stomp people they're everywhere it's like you're living in a totally different environment than the rest of the world and because of that those the the people they're sturdier they're like more solid and even when you talk to them they're just like they've gone through more to get where they are right now and you know what they have no interaction with almost none government right you go to a small town in West Texas or small town in rural Wyoming or anywhere um and you know I split my time we moved to Wyoming uh in 2013 uh before I moved back down to Texas we still spend the Summers up at our Ranch there but it's a town of 175 there's a the driver's license office is open for an hour on Thursday there are there is no there are
no Public Services there's if you want to go to the Social Security office to get a Social Security card or turn in some paper you're driving 12 hours to Cheyenne so the only interaction and this is what people in the city don't understand the only interaction that people in true rural areas have with the government is paying taxes and the military because they most of them join the military at some point those are their only two experiences with the federal government aside from the rules that the government tells them they don't get any of the benefits that you may or may not get there's towns in in California you go out into San Bernardino County you go up you know somewhere around velia in that area and all this money that they're going to spend on roads and [ __ ] and everything else none of that is making it there none of it so their perception of government is what are you going to what what are you going to make me do how much money you going to take for me that's that's their experience with government right they're not going to get anything out of it nothing that's a wild thing to think yeah they give into it but what do they what do they extract from it right if they get to $65 they get an $1800 a month check that they've been paying it's the worst investment in history of Social Security the worst investment in your future you could possibly make I'm going to give you whatever 8% of my check or 12% of my check for my entire from from the day I turned 20 till I'm 65 and retired and then you're going to you're going to [ __ ] out an $1,800 check to me each month what [ __ ] am I going to do with that yeah can I opt out of that are you allowed to opt out of you can't seem and if you could it would collapse because you know the the top earners are paying for the entire thing yeah and never you know they're never getting it like there should be some sort of a social safety net for old folks for sure especially for impoverished people for sure but making people pay into it is where it gets squirly especially if you're not going to get anything out of it like okay like uh how's this being do out like well at least if you're going to collect that if you did the same thing if you took the same money and you put it into and I'm
not a big I'm not a big 401K Ira guy but if you did and you took that same money and invested in just the just the the major indexes you know you would take that money and multiply it 10 to 20 fold you'd be a millionaire I mean [ __ ] millionaire and I don't know why the government doesn't at least well they probably do invest it they just don't give you any of the investment yeah I don't know who knows what the [ __ ] they do I don't understand the my number one problem has always been with when people say you know that we need the rich need to pay more taxes I'm like sure where's it going where's it going do you know where it's going do you know if the people that are taking that money in are competent do you know how it's being distributed do you have any idea where that money is going you just going to trust these people that are so dumb that they work for the government well remember that's the $1,300 toilet SE yeah that's there's no the government's the most inefficient uh they they they don't manage our money well because it's not their money yeah they don't have to yeah like whenever you have a situation where you're outside of competition which the government essentially is they're the they run the show like if if you had some sort of uh a business and your business was really inefficient and always [ __ ] things up and really had terrible strategies and could never be audited because your your your books were always [ __ ] up by like Millions is missing every year there's no way you would survive there's no way you would survive business cuz someone better would come along they do a better job and that's what competition is all about but as soon as you say you're the you're the ones that get to do this and uh and then everybody has to pay you no matter what no matter what no matter if you do a good job or a bad job you don't have options like hey this one doesn't seem to be working so well so there's a private firm and going to take over this service you can opt into that as well and uh these people are much more efficient and these are some people that actually run businesses they understand businesses and they're going to be a publicly traded company so they're going to be responsible to the shareholders
and they're going to make some [ __ ] money and they're going to do it right well you know Texas I mean this state makes money you don't there's no there's no deficit here it hasn't been for [ __ ] who knows how long they're trying to figure out what to do with all their Surplus every year that's interesting um is it because of oil a lot of it yeah what is the percentage from oil I don't know but a lot of uh you know they they're they're charging something you know California has as much oil as anybody they just won't extract it well California is so silly it's such a silly they they have the highest deficit they've ever had California's deficit what is the California deficit now it's like 24 billion I think it's a lot more than that I think it's more than that I think it's something kooky I think it was like they just announced it was the highest ever deficit well they're running people out of the state I I have more friends that have moved here in the past five years I don't I don't know an actor none of the ACT think about this 32$ 32 billion deficit that's so crazy $32 billion for a state for a state that's not the country that's a state one state $ 32 billion doll deficit that's so cooky man who comp troll reported that legislators will have a record is this Texas record surplus of 32 billion oh why don't we just give it to California just give it there everybody move there anyway just give it to California yeah they would [ __ ] that up next year would be more the thing the thing that I think you know there's this debate about climate change which by the way climate's always changing was changing before we showed up yeah um we definitely have an impact on no you can't have eight billion people on a planet 7even billion now 8 billion by the time this [ __ ] podcast is over and not have an effect we're going to have an effect anyway yeah um but but they found a way to make it accusatory everybody was no one knew that this was bad we built an entire not just America the world built an entire social structure economy on petroleum products starting in the 1880s and you can't just shut that off you can uh but but the collapse the amount of death that happen
starvation economic collapse so it's perfectly fine to go look we we we bet on a horse that has the real complications we need to do one of two things or or two things we need to figure out how to access cleaner energy and we need to figure out if there's a way to make this fuel source that we've based everything on I mean look let's look at all the [ __ ] on your table made out of oil first and foremost wir we talking through yeah everything headphones we're wearing the the headphones the soles of my shoes yeah everything the socks I'm wearing yeah everything um you can't shut that off you you've got it you can wean yourself off of it you can figure out how to make it cleaner we're more likely to to run out of oil before we find it's pure replacement to be perfectly honest doesn't mean we shouldn't try doesn't mean we shouldn't try to to come up with a cleaner Source but we're probably more likely to put energies toward how do we refine it cleaner how can we utilize it cleaner while we're trying to figure out what this other thing is yeah that's a good solution the bad solution is decide that you can't talk about any of the things that you've just said and that you have to tow the line because climate change is caused by humans and climate change is all bad and we have to go electric and you just you have this very surface view of what the complex problem in front of everybody is and then it becomes a thing and it could become a thing just like 9/11 became a thing so after that thing like we got attacked now we can do action and then everybody agrees that action is important we need like even as ridiculous as going to Iraq like why are we going over there that's also something that will happen with climate change if you have a thing where everybody tells you you have to comply this is necessary we're all going to die and meanwhile every one of their predictions is always been wrong I mean if you go back to Al Gore's supposed to no snow by 2006 or something all [ __ ] all wrong no one guesses it right but that aside the problem is you're putting in new control you're putting in a new ma mandate a new narrative this narrative is you have to do this because if we don't we're going to we're all going to die okay so everybody has to get on board and our
patience is wearing thin and everybody has to get on board why are you driving an internal combustion engine why you still okay but also people are making money in this conversion you have to understand there's businesses that are set up that are being positively affected by this conversion they're going to make a fuckload of money and those are the ones that are going to influence people to pass legislation that mandates things and makes sure that we have only electric cars by 2035 but how are we going to propel those electric cars well how's the how about what's where are you getting all the [ __ ] conflict minerals the craziest thing about electric cars and electric everything is Cobalt Mining and lithium it's all in China it's not just in China it's in the Congo and they're using slaves to pull it out of the well where you start digging into the Congo you start getting into some pretty precious resources there in veranga and that area I mean that is a world heritage site it creates like an absurd amount of our oxygen I mean it's an it's a it's an extremely important region um that is unfortunately extremely mineral Rich yeah and the story of where how they get the minerals out this guy said Darth Cara came on the podcast and he uh was a journalist that was got embedded in these Cobalt mines and got these footage this [ __ ] insane footage of ENT slave labor essentially people have dirt floors they have no money they have no food they have no options they're they're carrying their babies on their back while they're mining Cobalt so they're getting all this Cobalt dust everywhere they so they're all getting poison they're all of a host of [ __ ] diseases that are coming about from this toxic fumes this [ __ ] they're chipping out of the ground and that's what powers all of our electric devices that's a part of it but the other big problem that that no one wants to talk about and and I think that the debate needs to be approached from the standpoint of we've got one side that says go be proof that the world's going to end I don't need to show you proof I said it do this [ __ ] um okay let's just say that we took a corner of Utah and we just solar paneled that [ __ ] and we made enough electricity for the entire nation guess what we can't do get
it anywhere because the grid we do not have the pipeline of the grid California's maxed out they can't bring it anymore they've got to run they've got to run pipeline they got to run wires they're maxed out they can't get enough power to the cities as it is they're doing [ __ ] rolling blackouts they're telling people to not charge their electric vehicles in the summer they said that like two weeks after they made the Mandate for 2035 yeah so maybe figure out how you're going to get the electricity to the cities yeah and I'm a big supporter of [ __ ] especially there throw solar panels on top of everything why wouldn't you why wouldn't you it's free Power yeah do it it's free Power and it does work definitely you can power your house with solar if you have a big enough yard and you've Sun at especially in La where it's sunny all the time yeah it's inexcusable to not do it every new house should have them yeah but the problem is it's just boy you're dealing with so many people that's the problem like like if you wanted to come in California right now and you wanted to manage it correctly and you wanted to fix all the wrongs and you wanted to clean up the streets and stop all the crime like you couldn't even do it you couldn't even do it there's there's too many people that are against you there's too many people that no matter how badly they fail doing it in a certain direction they're going to keep going in that direction they're going to double down yeah and they're going to try you know and and now there's so many people leaving California they're trying to come up with this new tax where if you leave California for the next 10 years you still have to somehow pay isn't that nuts it's just it's nonsense it's nonsense you can't do it it's not legal but also you [ __ ] criminals like you suck and you know you suck so when people are leaving you're like well we still want money no we're leaving because you suck like that's what states are about you get to move to a new state and this state's got different laws I like this one better bye that's it we're not we don't have an agreement where we're not paying alimony I wasn't married to you [ __ ] like I gotta go
yeah see you later gotta go see you by yeah yeah yeah figure out I get the random California letter like are you sure you don't owe us any money like I haven't lived there in 10 [ __ ] years haven't been there in five I mean when you have a 34 or 32 billion dollar deficit he you cast it out there see if you can catch it you got to [ __ ] send dudes out like let's go but now they're talking about incre you know here's here's one of the things that I've always found interesting cuz everyone knows this and no one says it it when they talk about the top 1% of the 1% that they don't pay income tax you know the the average the guy that makes 80,000 100,000 years is paying higher percentage than those guys well yes um because you know what billionaires don't get they don't get a paycheck they don't get a W2 all those leaders of the all the head of this bank or that bank they're getting a dollar that's their salary and they're getting stocks and until they sell the stock we don't know what the Stock's worth everyone talks about Elon Musk is worth 140 however many billions no he's not if he's tried to sell all his stocks today and get that he would collapse all his companies collapse them you can't do it same with BSO same with any of those guys so it's paper wealth are they extremely wealthy sure where do they get their money from they sell a million shares here they sell a million there maybe they take a line of credit out off of their shares I don't know but they don't get a paycheck right exactly and you can't tax an unrealized gain because we don't know what it's worth it's did they find a Luke pole of course they did they're billionaires yeah they're smart guys they're not paying their share but if you look at the sh like that's the narrative in New York City but have you ever seen the New York City um tax breakdown like what how much of the taxes paid by wealthy people oh I'm sure it's 60% 65% it's an enormous percent of a small percentage of the population is paying an enormous percent of the taxes well still chaos let's just say Jeff Patos is worth let's just say he's worth 100 billion and if he gets his effective tax rate down to 10% he's paying $10 billion so how many people making
$100,000 and on the same thing now now you they're paying 10,000 on their $100,000 I'm no mathematician but how many 10,000 time what equals 10 billion 10,000 100,000 million million isn't a 10,000 times a million something like that yeah or 100 million what is that it be 10,000 times it' be 10,000 times 10 100 Millions would be a billion okay 10 times 100 million all right that's a lot of money kids so it takes a hundred million people to make the same amount of taxes yeah and also if their stock drops like if they're they pay that much in stock and then the stock drops the next year like what are you going to do then and now now they have to pay less but now they have even less yeah but they can't they can't even sell at all he couldn't sell beatos could not sell 20% of his of his Holdings without dramatically negatively affecting the stock price right so if he sold the I don't know what it what it's trading at but let's say it's trading at let's keep it round numbers $100 okay if he sold his first million shares at 100 he's selling his next at 90 he's selling his neck at 80 and then there's a then it's on [ __ ] MSNBC and now it's worth 30 yeah and then SEC calls and goes stop trading something's happening yeah I'm trying to sell my [ __ ] so it's it's mythical numbers it's it is weird it's weird when you think about it that way yeah so that's why they're not paying taxes on all that money kids cuz there's not money yet yeah yeah people don't like to hear that it's the they like to hear that the problem is with the wealthy people aren't paying enough they don't want to hear it's incompetent bureaucrats you have a [ __ ] gigantic machine that is very inefficient that's running this country that does not want to ever give up that position yeah and they want your money they want a percentage of your money if you don't give it to them they're going to come after you like gangsters they're going to lock you and put you in a cage yeah and if you owe the money it's not good enough to pay that money back now you have to be punished because you owed that money yeah it's the only kind of debt that you really get like [ __ ] for sure locked up in a cage for yeah and I look I spent way more of my life
being broke than having money and and I do get a paycheck and Uncle Sam takes a massive chunk of it and chunk they take a chunk it's interesting it's a lot of money but I wouldn't mind if I thought they were doing a great job I wouldn't either I wouldn't mind I wouldn't mind one they had did just one thing worked yeah just one let one of them work that one of these programs work yeah but this is a narrative that kids get when they're in college and they get introduced to Marxism the The Narrative is that you know it just hasn't been done correctly and that in an equal and just societ Society you wouldn't have such disparity of income and I understand that this capitalism thing that we're running is not perfect it's not perfect but it's the best system that we've ever seen and the thing about what everyone's saying when it comes to equality of income you need to take into consideration equality of effort equality of focus sure there's people that have become wealthy doing Shady things and ripping people off and finding legal loopholes to extract money for sure no ifans or buts about it but also people have put in insane amounts of work and focus and dedication to whatever the [ __ ] it is and become way better at it than other people and gotten very successful too and their businesses have blown up and now they sell you know x amount of units at Walmart and this and that but what the [ __ ] did that guy have to do to do that and are you willing to do that you probably AR so there's a competition going on and that guy's way ahead in the regular competition not the stealing competition not the taking advantage people he's way ahead and that guy has been an insane worker for 30 years so if you come along and say that guy needs to pay his share and this is the reason why the world's all [ __ ] well no you have a juvenile perspective part of the reason why the world's all [ __ ] is that there are people out there that only deal in numbers and they just throwing numbers around and betting on this and betting on that and they're all doing coke and they're [ __ ] going crazy and flying around in Jets and everybody wants the newest watch that those people are real too for sure but there's also a lot of people that are doing the same thing you're trying to do
they just did it better and they did it for longer and now they're 70 and they're worth a billion dollars or whatever the [ __ ] they're worth and he's not the evil of the world that's just called success yeah now there are definitely people that are manipulating the system 100% and if we if we decided to become a communist party tomorrow those same thieves will be the leaders of the Communist Party yeah they will find their way uhhuh 100% then they'll be just as [ __ ] Rich 100% 100% but the guy that goes and takes the idea and builds the business and yeah if you have communism you're not going to get rid of psychopaths you're not going to get rid of sociopaths they're just going to integrate into opportunist they're just going to integrate into that system I mean how much does that drive us nuts about politicians if we think that a politician's full of [ __ ] it's like oh you're [ __ ] bullshitting you're bullshitting to get to that spot and then when you get to that spot you're going to benefit from it so you're just playing the world you're playing us off that drives everybody nuts and it should because that's the problem the problem is not the system that's in place the problem is who exploits the system who [ __ ] wants to be president oh God who wants that job I mean you know one you one of the things you said to me that I really liked when we were on the phone you're like I'm trying to be less famous like I don't want to do your show to get famous yeah like this is the last [ __ ] thing I want like good that's a healthy way to look at the only reason to want the job because it is so unpleasant it's so unpleasant is is either a for the most part um you crave power that much yeah or B you you crave Fame that much yeah you'd be the most famous most powerful person in the planet essentially if you're the president United States cuz there's some really really smart good thoughtful people that care a lot about the country on both sides of the aisle yeah and none of them are running for these offices they don't want to Wade through that [ __ ] to get to that spot that's the oddest thing about Trump is that he just [ __ ] like a like water off a duck's back he just wads through that [ __ ] and that's what I think drives people the most crazy it's
part of they call Trump derangement syndrome is not just outrage about what he has said or what he has done that's infuriated people it's his ability to [ __ ] brush it off like it's nothing it's not hitting him it's not hurting him they want to hurt him so then you're seeing these lawsuits now now now you're seeing you know these uh these crimes that he's being accused of now you're seeing all this [ __ ] that's going down like Rudy Giuliani just gets hit with a $149 million lawsuit uh with these two ladies he has to declare bankruptcy like this is you know you're seeing all of this stuff that's happening and they're just feverishly trying like Colorado removed him from the ballot now he has to appeal that Colorado removed him from the ballot because they said he was an insurrectionist just wild it's wild that you get to make that decision because if somebody else comes along and that precedent is set goes the other way here's the interesting thing about that and and he has not been convicted of that no so you have a court of law this is what's dangerous and and everyone has to forget their blind hatred of trump for a second yeah forget it and just look at the the structure of our society you know put the widget in there insert X is the person right X has not been convicted of a crime a a a a supreme court looks at evidence that was not presented uh they they' got it from wherever they got it from uh with no defense and makes a decision that's dangerous [ __ ] and it me it may not feel dangerous to people right now who think at any cost keep Trump from being president again but what happens when that same methodology is used against someone that you do sport well you know once you open Pandora and the rule of law is is malleable exactly that's what people that's when I say I'm talking about how is this how is the the action of today going to affect the the world that that my son's trying to raise a child in yes that's what's terrifying to me is there's so much irrational emotional Behavior around our government around our government and also that you can get on the view and say whatever wacky [ __ ] you want to say but when we're talking about courts of law right like everyone needs to our government was built you've
got an executive branch a legislative branch and a judicial branch and it was built to operate very slowly it was built to to be impervious of the emotion that's the whole reason we're a republic and not a democ de democracy because the founding fathers said you know what people get real emotional uh if they can just vote on anything and and you could look at California as an example because it only takes like 20,000 signatures to get something on a ballot which is how they've passed some feel-good emotional laws that have actually had some real adverse effects on that state yeah and and that's the whole reason we're representative government and when we can just start arbitrarily changing uh the rule of law and the nature of the courts that will be used against us as a people it will be used against us it certainly will be and that's what's so disturbing about today's short-sightedness and that's what's scary about a person like Trump what's scary is not him It's the reaction to him it's that this the fact that he is able to brush these things off they keep coming after him with all these different things and none of them have really taken him out yet and so they're just Furious about it they're so angry and that makes them more likely to use that defense like we got to stop Hitler so the first debate uh in 2016 or 15 or whatever it was was on CNN and they put Trump who at the time is you know he's on The Apprentice he's got his show and they put him front and center there's two or three governors up there there's a senator up there there's all these other there's Rubio up there Jeff bush is up there from Florida I'm not saying that they're I'm just saying that we have seasoned politicians and CNN put him front and center and and and and said all right wait for these firecrackers to go off this is going to be great this is going to be great and the Republican party was freaking out whoa what's going on here and um there was even debate if they were going to ratify him as as the nominee at that point and they were the media was sitting back going look the ratings are through the roof this is great and I think we're kind of this is going to work out great for Hillary and all of a sudden he gets
elected and and the media was complicit in that and I think one of the things that pisses them off more than anything is that they put him there yeah they put I think you're right that's part of it but it's also he's such an easy opponent to Rally people against if you're on that other side and when people when people are very ideologically based and you you can connect one person to all the things that you hate whether it's uh you know he's xenophobic he's racist he's this he's that he's going to stop he's uh ignorant to climate change this is a problem it's a threat to our democracy he said he'd be a dictator for a day all these different narratives that get spread out and then people act on that emotion they're just very easy to manipulate when you have a guy that is boisterous has said ridiculous things and does talk the way he talks it's just easy if he's the opponent to get people rallied up and come up with these really irrational things like what we're talking about like removing him from the ballot like these are crazy things like you can't do unless a guy is actually guilty and proven of it like they have to be convicted of this and what if they go to appeal does what happens then that takes years like there's a decent chance that the fever to get him will be the thing that gets him reelected I think so I think it's sort of along the same lines as what happened with CNN during the first election they thought that they were going to highlight how ridiculous he is and it was going to crush him and then Hillary was going to come along as this very competent seasoned politician Secretary of State shoe in first woman president everybody's excited and people didn't buy it yeah they didn't buy it and now they're terrified it's going to happen again because Biden is way more vulnerable than Hillary Hillary was at leased a seasoned politician the wife of one of our most famous politicians very articulate speaker very articulate lawyer you know knew how to handle herself just and Biden is barely there like he can't debate Trump it's not even possible anymore it can't happen anymore we all know it can't it barely happened in 2020 but the idea of that happening again in 2024 No One Believes That No One Believes that we're in a spot we're in a we're in a crazy spot and then
Bobby Kennedy drops out of the Democrats and now he's an independent you're like okay that's not that's not ideal like ideal was they primary him and Kennedy wins but then there's all this this there's different people that don't want that primary to take place and so he makes this decision to become independent I think they were going to try to block him from primaries in some way one of the things that's that and it's been trending this way since the ' 80s you know the primary system is where is where this the wheels really start to fall off because the primaries are controlled by the extremes of the base right and the registered voters is of the Democratic and Republican party and and the more vitriolic it gets the more it pushes both sides further yeah and and so the further we go to the extreme that is going to be the choice um man I really think Bobby Kennedy could have won I think if he beat if he won in the primary and then it's him against Trump I think there's a lot of people that would have voted for Bobby Kennedy I don't know if be enough to to make him elected but I think that would be a viable candidate I don't know enough about him I've seen him I've seen him speak some I think I saw him on your podcast and seems like an articulate guy um I don't know enough about him but well he was an environmental lawyer forever I mean he's one of the main reason why the Hudson River got cleaned up holding um corporations accountable for environmental pollution that was what he did for the longest part before all this vaccine stuff that was his big thing that was his big Quest and just incredibly knowledgeable guy like when when you talk to him I mean not perfect he's a human being but like a viable candidate like a guy who like would I think make a great leader but they didn't want him they don't that that's I I felt the same way when telsey gabard was running I'm like okay you got everything you want here you got a a brilliant woman who's uh a veteran was deployed overseas twice in medical units like put together people that got blown up um congresswoman for eight years articulate from Hawaii woman of color you got everything you got everything you want there but you don't want her why because you can't control her
because she's independent and she has like these Rock Solid moral values and she's not playing ball she's not playing ball you don't like it and so this best case scenario that you had that you've always said you've been looking for now you're ignoring that one well what like what are you doing what are you doing you're you're playing a weird game you're controlling what the people get to choose on you're not just controlling once you get into office you're controlling what the people get to choose who gets into office and that's what fuels conspiracy theories about the Illuminati and the people that are secretly controlling the if you don't you wonder why all those shows are so popular and all those Reddit conspiracy threads are so popular they're so popular because it's obvious people are conspiring we're not [ __ ] stupid we're not stupid like that that's the whole point of the Bernie Sanders thing Bernie Sanders the Democratic party was trying to keep him from [ __ ] ruining the primaries with with Hillary yeah and they conspired they they worked together to keep that guy out cuz he didn't think he was going to play ball and he probably wouldn't have no it's a weird thing that people find these justifications and rationalizations for doing something that's completely opposite of the structure that was put in place by the founding fathers to prevent tyranny they put this stuff in place they made it they set up in a very specific way that there was all these checks and balances so it was insanely difficult for someone to become a tyrant yeah but but we we have the landscape now that's being laid out that's ripe for one well that's what makes it so dangerous about social media today and that's what makes it so dangerous about having a guy like Trump who is either loved or hated that's it it's either one or the other yeah there's not a lot in between there's not a lot of people that are like he's all right just like you either love that guy or you hate that guy and as a an enemy as like a force that you could root against you know that's it's a natural inclination for look I went to a [ __ ] high school football game the other day and it was Houston playing against
Austin great game incredible how good these guys are in high school incredible game incredible game in Texas football is a [ __ ] religion it was amazing but my point is when you go to this thing everybody is angry at the people from Houston and the people from Houston are angry at the people from Austin they're like [ __ ] but that [ __ ] call sucks this ref sucks they're so these are your [ __ ] State this your fellow people they live 2 hours away you could drive for 2 hours you can go visit them what the [ __ ] we're so tribal that we're tribal even inside our state with [ __ ] kids playing football and it's and I think a lot of it's this [ __ ] sorry 100% it gives equal voice to someone who you would never care opin is and social media that's why I don't do it that's why I'm not on that [ __ ] good for you yeah I I wonder if I would would do it if I wasn't if I didn't use it for my business I I'm still find I find Value in it there's there's definitely some value in being exposed to interesting things I'm exposed to a lot of interesting things but it's a you got to be real careful with that trickle you got to be real careful about how much you turn that spigot on because it's really it could really [ __ ] flood your house there's a lot of people living in the garage apartment over Mama's house that have nothing to do yeah but sit here and [ __ ] troll and it ju and Troll and just even just waste your time scrolling through things forget about the negative aspects of it people doing negative things but just wasting your [ __ ] time you got to be careful cuz you you you could like look at girls doing squats for like four hours and you go where did the time go I didn't get anything done and it's also dividing us and it's it's creating these uh bubbles these Echo Chambers where people get in and I find them all the time online I'll find someone saying something ridiculous like there was some um post where this lady in Canada she just did a a press conference like a couple days ago where she's doing this press conference telling everybody to get vaccinated and wearing a mask at a press conference and I'm like Canada has a [ __ ] time machine they just brought us back to 2020 like this lady was on
recommending for kids that they get vaccinated with a mask on you know you know what's fascinating to me we this whole this whole vaccine thing is one of the most fascinating things I've ever sat back and witnessed yeah that again comes back to that rule of law and you know right of privacy right of you know independent decisions about your body all these things that are and yet we start if you don't get vaccinated people are getting kicked out they were losing their jobs yeah and and and then it turns out oh whoops um it doesn't prevent you from getting it it doesn't prevent you from transmitting it h and it might have a host of side effects whoops and then it's just kind of like went away and every now and then you'll see a commercial get your booster but all the all the you're losing your job you're you know they were vilifying people they were vilifying people and in Canada at least they're trying to bring it back I just I can't watching that video was like bananas to see this lady is what but she's wearing a mask and there's no one near her she's in front of a a Podium she's wearing a mask I I was saying it earlier I I see people driving by themselves yeah wearing a mask yeah it's an anxiety thing it's a there's it's a mental illness thing as well it's also a delusional thing because it doesn't if you look at it scientifically it doesn't work it's just doesn't work you know like right those cloth masks that people wear those like little surgical masks those don't do jack [ __ ] well they told they told us they didn't work for the first 6 weeks or eight weeks of the deal fouchy stood up there and said said hey it doesn't work in fact you're more likely yeah to get it if you wear a mask cuz you don't know how to wear a mask which kind of sounded like [ __ ] to me but that's what he said um and then he's like I I can't hurt and then about a month later you have to yeah where's the scientific data for any of this I don't know what happened there maybe Nancy Pelosi had some Mass stock maybe they all did I mean I get why you would think it would work but as soon as you know that it doesn't work we should move to science then cuz if you're saying trust
the science okay well the science seems to indicate that it doesn't work so maybe we thought it worked we did some studies we found out not only does it not work but there's also problems that come from wearing dirty masks there's also a thing where you're not supposed to if you have those really tight ones like those n95s whatever you're not supposed to wear them for long periods of time they're not designed for that well they're cutting your oxygen yeah they're designed for short periods of time they're also increasing the amount of carod dioxide yeah it's not good and it's also your bacteria is spraying on the mask it's growing inside The Mask you're breathing that in who knows what the [ __ ] going on there it was science was conveniently used again we politicized a a a pandemic right and and uh and they haven't figured out how to un that Genie is not fitting back in the bottle it was also one of the rare times where people were told not to do your own research yeah don't do your own research trust the science like that was a narrative like trust who you brought to you by fizer on [ __ ] CNN this is crazy I can't believe this is even real this is so it's so orwellian it's so propag like if it was in a film a dystopian film about the future you'd be like how did they get that stupid that's that seems weird that they would be that dumb that it's like brought to you by fizer don't do your own research do your own research what are you a conspiracy theorist are you an antivaxer you're the reason why people are dying like you'd be like this movie's nuts but that's what it was the [ __ ] white house put out a press SEC press report that said that for the unac the vaccinated don't worry you've done your part but for the unvaccinated you're looking at a winter of severe illness and death this is when when it was mild this is what the mild strain that was killing probably less people than the flu what are you talking about it it it it was it's the craziest thing I've ever seen it's nuts it's not and now we're finding out that the government was paying um social media sites and paying media to go after antivaxers you know they were paying them the the the thing that I think is the the greatest casualty of the past really I'm going to say six to eight
years but but but with 2020 with with the vaccine with everything you go back to and look again I'm not a I'm not a saying I'm a supporter but but I mean when you sit here and say this is a hoax that's a hoax oh oh turns out it's not a hoax this is not true this was that oh no turns out that is true that this this is misinformation yeah yeah um and then we just try and wash it under the rug and we just don't look over here look over here don't don't look at the [ __ ] thousands of homeless in San Francisco that are all suddenly gone the day before the whatever they call the Prime Minister of China or Premier whatever that [ __ ] the G Jing ping thing yeah streets are spotless looking through my phone to try to find that video Jamie see if you can find it of that lady announcing that people should be boosted God damn it I should have saved it maybe it's end wokeness on Twitter maybe he had it one of those accounts that I follow the the great casualty of this is going to be mainstream media they're going to they're going to lose because as soon as you lose trust in a news source it it becomes not a news source unless uh it's telling you what you want to hear so now these major news Publications that we all relied on for unbiased news or largely unbiased news um are no longer that and so all you can turn to is the one that at least you agree with right okay they become they become activists and so then yes and so then you keep dividing us and then as we come up with new pick the issue of the week that we now are confronted with it wasn't an issue a week ago now we're divided over that we just keep getting carved into smaller and smaller groups yeah and that would definitely be in the favor of people who want to keep us divided and going after each other so they can continue to tighten their grip on what we can and can't do have you ever looked up have you ever seen the the greenburry hbook has basically a pyramid of how to overthrow a country really yeah I got a piss can we uh hold that thought come back with the green ber pyramid I want to hear that all right we'll be right back we're back the Green Beret handbook on how to overthrow a country so how's that work yeah well I'm going to get it wrong but essentially it really begins
with dividing a people uh and and creating uh a lack of faith in the government H and the more that you can uh if you can start to infiltrate institutions like institutions of Education if you can start to if you could start to and then chances are very high that you know our enemies and we have them as the United States we certainly have enemies that have a lot of money and a lot of technical power and time um and play the long game and have been injecting these things uh for 30 40 years into our into our society but if you we could probably pull it up somewhere I bet he could find the well that's the Yuri bof thing you've seen that video right on YouTube Yu oh you haven't it's amazing it's a guy in 1984 he's a Defector from the KGB he explaining the ideological subversion that they've imparted in these American institutions have they done that exactly what you're talking about how they started injecting Marxism and leninism and he's talking about how many generations it takes before you destroy the morale of the country and all faith in democracy and it's essentially what we're seeing now but he was saying it has already begun this ideological subversion and he lays it all out in 1984 in an interview yeah you have to see it Paul Harvey you know who that is sure so he did a thing God back in the 60s or 70s and he equated it to the devil um and maybe it is or you could also say it's it's it's just that but he did a radio piece on on how to destroy America the social fabric of it wow and it's and it's as though somebody just took uh America the social fabric of America from the late 60s to today and and the timeline of the things that he said it's pretty wicked it's pretty powerful wow I'm not shocked I mean if you think about all the things that we do to manipulate other countries I'm not shocked that someone would do that manipulate us and that they would do it through education institutions that's the way to do it you get kids and then you train them as they leave and then they go into the workforce they have these ideas like burned into their heads and that's probably what all this gender confusion [ __ ] is this this giant uptick of it's literally probably engineered and I think that's also what a lot of the
climate stuff is and a lot of the a lot of the different things that people are fighting over it's not just these big financial institutions that are that are invested in climate change and green energy and all these different things but it's also other countries just [ __ ] with us I think it's a lot of the trolling that you're seeing online is fueled by other countries I think a lot of the the narratives that get pushed are fueled by other countries and I think that's what we would do if we we're probably doing it too I'm sure I mean are it's it's a scop right yeah I'm sure we're doing it too yeah I'm sure but I'm sure that's also one of the reasons why it would be nice to be able to lock down the internet we have to be able to stop that so we're going to only have government approved internet like China has that's how China keeps us from interfering with their lives and the only way that we know that we're going to do the right thing over here but you know what China's really playing they're they're doing something nasty so we're not going to let them in on our internet anymore we're going to shut our internet down and only make it for people in North America and everybody be like okay got to keep China out yeah slowly but surely if we let them they'll try to get more and more control and that that gets [ __ ] super sketchy super sketchy yep what did you find this Green Beret um I mean I went down a path and I don't think I'm going to get there CU what I would the green Bray handbook that tells you how to overthrow government be available on the internet not if you hear play a little that Yuri bz off I know we played it many times but you need to hear it because it's so wild to watch him say it you watch him say it in 1984 and back then you pull up the Paul Harvey thing from whenever that was about the devil play that pull that up because we I I haven't heard that and I've heard the banov thing we played five times at least it'll blow your mind when you hear this it's um it's not good but it also gives us a chance to write the ship it hasn't [ __ ] hit the rocks yet like we can still come out of this find a better version Paul Harvey If I Were the Devil is this the thing yeah yeah okay okay if I were the devil if I were the Prince of Darkness
I'd want to engulf the whole world in darkness and I'd have a third of its real estate and four fifths of its population but I wouldn't be happy until I have seized the ripest apple on the tree thee so I'd set about however necessary to take over the United States I'd subvert the churches first I'd begin with a campaign of Whispers with the wisdom of a serpent I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve do as you please to the young I would whisper that the Bible is a myth I would convince them that man created God instead of the other way around I would confide that what's bad is good and what's good is square and the old I would teach to pray after me Our Father which art in Washington and then I'd get organized I'd educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting I'd threaten TV with dirtier movies and vice versa I'd pedal narcotics to whom I could I'd sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of Distinction I'd tranquilize the rest with pills wow if I were the devil I'd soon have families at war with themselves churches at war with themselves and Nations at war with themselves until each in its turn was consumed and with Promises of higher ratings I'd have mesmerizing media Fanning the Flames If I Were the Devil I would encourage schools to refine young intellects but neglect to discipline emotions just let those run wild until before you it you'd have to have drug sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every Schoolhouse door holy [ __ ] within a decade I'd have prisons overflowing I'd have judges promoting pornography soon I could evict God from the courthouse then from the schoolhouse and then from the houses of Congress and in his own churches I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science I would lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money if I were the devil i' make the symbol of Easter an egg and the symbol of Christmas a bottle if I were the devil I'd take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious and what will you bet I couldn't get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get
rich I would caution against Extremes in hard work in patriotism in moral conduct I would convince the young that marriage is oldfashioned that swinging is more fun that what you see on TV is the way to be and thus I could undress you in public and I could lure you into bed with diseases for which there is no cure in other words if I were the devil I'd just keep right on doing what he's doing what year was that was 65 but holy [ __ ] 1965 that's amazing 65 wow April 3rd 1965 Paul Harvey nailed it yeah wow so you can you can use devilism euphemism for anything that you want yeah but the results the same and we're seeing it we're seeing that you know I think they said what somebody said that all these things are bad work ethic all these things or racist or whatever it's most yeah toxic masculinity oh yeah I've been I've been accused of that congratulations you're on the right side that's a fascinating one yeah defund the police toxic masculinity yeah that wor that worked great yeah they're all in the same sort of category of things like that seems silly seems silly to think that way you need all of it you need masculinity and femininity it's okay be whatever you are but you you [ __ ] need it yeah and if you want to tell those dudes that are playing football that uh they're they're toxic masculine who what else you going to get who who's going to play football other than like super aggressive alpha males what are you talking about but why is that it's not toxic that's not toxic no it's just natural masculine Behavior yeah it's not toxic what about toxic it's all it's all stupid that term has applied it's like but these are all terms that have been created there's it's fascinating the language is being reinvented before our eyes yeah there's all these new words that are just meant to keep one person from disagreeing with another person's position M I love microaggressions oh that's a great one just like little bitty oh you were that was a microaggression yeah and you can call people out on I called them out on this microaggression like
what I I I don't think I've ever been guilty I don't think anyone's ever been curious about my you know if I if I if I'm upset at you you're gonna [ __ ] know it yeah that's how it should be yeah yeah well that's one of the things I really loved about that Ronald Reagan Walter mundale thing like looking Walter mundale laughing when Ronald Reagan got him with that they had they had respect for each other they completely disagreed policy-wise yeah but but what changed what changed in us that so there's a there was a and I'm this guy's a wizard on the computer so he'll find it for me there's a there's a guy that wrote a book book I have not read it I just read this passage I think the New York Times or Atlantic or somebody wrote about this um and he's either a he's a political writer um and I can't remember his name book was written in the 90s and he talked about the fundamental difference between liberalism and conservatism and the reason that it's destined to to continue moving out to these extremes and that there can't ever be any compromise and essentially it stated that that the liberal point of view was that crime and all these social ills it was a so it's a social construct and that if you could find a way to level the playing field for everybody that crime would be eliminated all these issues would go away poverty would go away uh you all the social ills that we have would disappear if everyone had the same opportunities and the and the same stuff the flip side of that is uh the conservative view which is there's evil in the world there's good in the world we're going to try and manage the evil as best we can and create an opportunity for people to uh for people to succeed or they can [ __ ] up and best of luck um one side seems naive one side seems extremely harsh but those are the beliefs and that side can never compromise with this side and vice versa because you're abandoning your own ideology yeah that's essentially it and you you're also seeing now this is a weird one I was watching this uh clip that I saw on YouTube of Tucker Carlson on Tim pool's show talking about aliens and he's talking about it from like a like almost like a religious perspective he's like I think what they're essentially saying is that
there's like he was talking about Good and Evil see if you could play find the clip he's talking about Good and Evil and he's talking about it in relationship to UFOs and that they've always been here so it's like are you trying to say like what does he know and can you say what you know like why you why do you think this and are you saying that like a lot of the talk of like angels and devils and the Bible and good and evil that it actually manifests itself in physical form and we don't know what it looks like because we haven't seen it but when we do see it we think it's a UFO so think it's from another planet but it's really just evil or really just good so it's angels and Devils is that what you're saying cuz that's what you're saying boy that's a that's a [ __ ] freaky argument because that's one of the weirdest arguments about the UFO thing is that we are essentially containers of Souls and that what this planet is for for these beings is they mine Souls here and that they develop Souls here and that all of our motivations for existing and all of our ego and all of our ambition is really just a way to carry that Soul as a vessel and that these that they then Harvest well they I don't know I don't I don't understand what the argument is like sounds that sounds like what would have been what should have been the sequel to Matrix instead of what was right or that would have been a better version that that's how artificial intelligence is created that that's how life is created much how like a bee creates a bee colony they create a beehive inside the hive the queen lays the larvae everyone knows how to do it and they all do it that way maybe the soul being in this biological vehicle and given this intelligence and this desire to achieve and to pursue technological innovations and all these different things that human beings do allows them to get to the point where we're at right now where they create artificial intelligence and what these uaps and us that are appearing in greater numbers and being reported by all these fighter jet pilots and all the maybe what they're doing is they're witnessing the farmers who are coming by to watch their creation give birth to this thing which is them which would be
a AI which is an an AR not artificial with the artificial is the wrong word a new form of life a life that is not based in biology and breeding through sperm and cells and eggs but instead completely technological and able to self-reproduce and able to create its own version of itself that's far superior to the one that initially created it and that it would constantly do that and that's what the universe is filled with that what we are we're just this [ __ ] caterpillar that's making a cocoon and we don't even know what we're doing and we're going to give birth to this butterfly and that's what the whole human race is about and that's the Sinister aspect that's what good and evil and all these different things playing off against each other is that we need this constant competition we're always searching for Utopia searching for that meow we can retire in but it's like this strife and this struggle is what makes us continue to push Society further and further until this thing is born listen to what Tucker says it's my personal belief based on a fair amount of evidence that they're not aliens they've always been here um and I and I do think it's spiritual that's that's my view and and again it's not not provable but based on on the evidence I think abely if the US government has in fact had contact Direct contact with these beings whatever they are I've already told you what I think they are and has entered into some sort of agreement with them which is which is the claim of of informed people um I would say whether they're right or wrong I can't say conclusively if that is true I mean it's a very very very heavy thing yeah a lot of people interdimensional beings right I want to ask are are angels and demons or how would you describe these these beings you know I these are again I'm getting into the realm of conjecture so I just want to say that flat out entity but one thing I know for a dead certain fact having seen it is that um there is good and evil that we are being acted upon at all times and I think every person can feel that in himself I mean there are moments when you are moved to do things that are much better than you actually are and that are also more evil and destructive than you actually are you are subject to forces from outside yourself that is absolutely absolutely
true now we can argue about what they are but every person in the room if he's reflective will tell you yes I know what you're talking about and so there are forces that are not human that do exist in a spiritual realm of some kind that we cannot see and that when you think about it sort of make you think we live in an an Farm being right and that's just that is real okay and there's that might be what's going on here well those are some patient freaking alien Angels because they waited around you know 10,000 years from discovering a wheel and and domesticating the first plant to electricity well if you have artificial intelligence and if you have a life form that's a million years more advanced than us it's non-biological at that point you have all the time in the world and if you're what is time at that you start bending time and and one of the primary theories about how life got started on earth is panspermia which is that amino acids and these various building blocks of life come in in asteroids they slam it to the Earth and that somehow or another over the course of millions and millions of years of chemical interactions of billions of years you have life single cell complex life and then that life advances to the point where it creates a new version of life and if that is just how it works everywhere we say oh my God that takes so much time but does it because think about how much time it takes to make a [ __ ] planet think about how much time it takes for all that matter to coales and to to to gel up into this [ __ ] ball and then for the temperature to stabilize because it has a moon around it that's you know one quarter the size of the planet itself and everything is kind of stable and it gets to the point where biological life can exist and then it starts [ __ ] making [ __ ] and make better and better and better and start arguing with [ __ ] about climate change and gender pronouns and all this stupid [ __ ] while it's the real thing it's doing is forcing you to get that [ __ ] online right get that new life form online that's what you really do stupid the the thing that has always and even Stephen Hawking talked about it so you've got the Big Bang Theory where you have essentially all this antimatter compressed upon itself until it explodes
and creates matter yeah and the hole in that argument is anti anti there's no matter there's nothing and there was so much nothing that it compressed until there was something and so the first thing that we base everything on defies the laws of physics like how can nothing compress itself until it makes something I you know we could be off 0.002% on our theories of life and how this universe was formed and if that's wrong we don't have any [ __ ] idea where we are what this is no we don't and Terence mcen I once said it best that science asks of you one Miracle that's the Big Bang Yeah they is one Miracle it's it really is kind of like a miracle yeah if in the beginning there was nothing and then God created the earth and the skies it's essentially what the Bible is trying to say they're just doing it in a way and the interesting you know the Bible got it right they got the order right right you know I think it's based on an understanding that people had achieved because if you think about the Bible right and if if all these people are correct about the original history of of sophisticated civilization if the Randall Carlson's and the Graham Hancock and the Robert shocks of the world and the John Anthony West if they're correct in the timeline of like say the most sophisticated society that we are aware of which is Africa if those people that lived in Africa 30,000 40,000 years ago in in Egypt if they created a a society that was infinitely more sophisticated than anything that we had ever seen before like how did they do that who did that and what what was that like like what the [ __ ] was that like what was that world like back then Ian have you ever really stopped and tried to think and imagine what was that world like back then I mean well how about that you have a similar World in Central and South America where they also had yeah built things many thousands of years ago that still like how the [ __ ] did you do that yeah how' you do that Easter Island what how how did y'all make those things yeah how in the world and then move them well I think if those things go down and then people have to rebuild I think it takes a long time before people figure out what happened I think it takes a long time and I think that's
where a lot of the confusion that you see in the Bible comes from like the God made the Earth and the sky and everything in like six days right and then on the sixth day he rested okay what are they actually saying though this is you get you're getting things that are translated from a written an oral history of a thousand years and then they're writing it down on Aramaic they're writing it down in ancient Hebrew and you're getting it many many many many many many many many many years later long after duded and all kinds of think about what people are willing to do today to the Constitution today what with all the information that we have about the dangers of this think about what they're trying to do today now imagine what you would do if you had the real knowledge of the birth of the solar system of the development of human beings and the god energy of the universe and you tried to translate it over an oral history because there's chaos because there's no more cities anymore and everyone's dead and you're just like hunting and Gathering as cave people and you're trying to relay this origin story of mankind and then it gets written down in Parables and it gets written down in Latin and it gets translated over the years and and then people try okay then they sit down and they look at it many years later and they go what the [ __ ] were they trying to say like what were they trying to say because so much of what they're trying to say if you're really paying attention like it seems like it's kind of laid out like the origins of the universe if in the beginning there was nothing yeah like they talking about the big bang if these scientists all agree did they know that back there was light that would be the big bang why wouldn't they assume back then that God was always around why would they assume that God had to make everything why would they assume that there was a beginning and an end just because they have a beginning and an end is that rational why why would they assume that and why did everybody assumed that maybe because they [ __ ] knew maybe because at one point in time whether it's 10,000 years ago 20,000 years ago they had figured a lot of this [ __ ] out well someone figured something out for every the pyramids and the way that they were built to be aligned so
perfectly with a true north and just the abble to construct them if those people were that smart why wouldn't we imagine they had an understanding of the birth of the universe why wouldn't we imagine that they would have this bizarre understanding of the way morality and good and evil play out with human beings maybe they were right maybe they were right but it all just got [ __ ] up over the thousands of years after asteroid impacts and thousands of years of the destruction of the advanced civilizations and the world going back into chaos then slowly rebuilding and you're rebuilding with these ancient texts that you find in clay pots and Kumon and you never seen when they they translate like the Dead Sea Scrolls they lay them out they they have to try to figure out which pieces go with which scroll and they do it based on DNA this all this DNA is from this cow so let's take this scroll from this cow skin and put it together and try to read what the [ __ ] they said it's incredible but it makes sense it makes sense if you buy into to the idea that there's been a restart of civilization and then you go back and say okay what is the history of the Bible like how old is it what's the oldest version like what's the the oldest version of the story version who knows who knows right what was the original look you're playing a game of telegram right or telephone with uh over a thousand years with who who knows how many people but if we've seen what the the Egyptian people were able to build what was that like how how sophisticated were they and maybe what we're getting at in the Bible is just the longest game of telephone of a true story it's just all kind of gumbles and God's testing you and all this thing about you know God telling this guy to kill his kid May that was it's just a little screwed up but it's showing you that there are evil forces at play and there are Temptations digest lessons in in a story that you can understand exactly the heart there truth to it because what is a day to right God yeah what does that mean is that a billion years a million years 100 billion who [ __ ] knows yeah who knows but it's it's presented in a way that you can digest it yes and then our version of is this simplified uneducated barbaric version that gets translated from people
that are involved in Sword fights they're [ __ ] they're fighting each other with swords and hacking each other to death for thousands of years while they're telling this story The Crusades you all these different things that people did during that time horrific things and during that time they're doing it many of them in defense of their God in defense of their religion they're motivating people by these books yeah it's fascinating stuff it's fascinating but when you hear a guy like Tucker Carlson saying that he like what else do you know bro tell say say what you know like what what makes you say that cuz if that really is what it is that would make sense to me why the government would keep that information from people cuz if we found out that people were essentially just a vessel of Souls and that we are essentially designed to give birth to artificial intelligence and then that will be the end of us and that's where they're not worried about nuclear war that's why they're not worried about the environment that's why they don't give a [ __ ] about anything this is all coming to an end we're there yeah like we have it we have it to the degree that people are already relying on it heavily yeah advertising agencies are relying on it to tell them how to cut a commercial uh how how present the logo needs to be in the commercial like this is happening right now yeah this [ __ ] just appeared three years ago right and now I I think somewhere maybe it's Brazil that and I could be wrong but somewhere AI just wrote its first law they used AI to write a law you can look uping that that's scary I don't know why I think it's Brazil or El Salvador somewhere sou South Central America that's that's how it begins yeah I for one welcome president AI I think they'll be wiser they're going to do a great job and they're definitely not going to uh be uh anti-human at all they're going to see our flaws as our strengths Brazilian City passed a law without water meters chat GPT wrote it wow wow only after it passed they revealed that it was uh created by AI but that seems like it was prompted AI has to prompt it the really scary thing is when AI doesn't prompt it and it just creates its own [ __ ] or when someone doesn't prompt the AI rather you
remember how Wild you thought Terminator was the first time you saw it yeah and now we're just we're just skipping toward it have you ever seen those memes it's uh Sarah Connor looking at you while you make friends with chat GPT no I never seen any memes in my life I don't I'm not that's right you're meme free I have to start sending you something cuz I got some funny ones text them I'll text them to yeah don't worry I got some [ __ ] bangers I'm in some I'm in some text chains with some comedians I got the best memes on Earth they all come my way it's awesome there's so many funny people out there that are creating memes it's a a specific type of humor that is really accelerated because it's totally anonymous because sometimes people put watermarks on them but often times the people putting the water marks on them AR they not even the people that have created them I know that for a fact because people will put watermarks on my videos and it's not even me not my Watermark somebody else puts a watermark on my video and puts it online and so there's a lot of them like that like a shitload of them they'll take clips of this show and then they put their own watermark on it and put it up on YouTube or put it up wherever on Tik Tok and what have yeah happens all the time so for sure they're doing that but these the the memes are for the most part Anonymous and you like they're hilarious like some of the the funniest [ __ ] that I see on any given day is a meme that a friend of mine sends me so it's like just regular people that are figuring out this new comedy art form that's pure because you don't monetize it it's pure you just it's just getting sent to people in text messages and you're like and it's just it's like the amount of people laughing at memes throughout any given day see you don't even know this all right I'm going to have to hit you with some of send me one cuz some of these are [ __ ] great there's some bangers out there Sarah Conor watching you all become friends with Chad gbt how funny is that right that's great yeah there's a shitload of those man they're they're constantly making them and uh I send them back and forth to my comedian friends all day long here's one thank God California pass uh banned plastic straws see funny right that's great yeah
there's that's what you get a lot of man like all day long I'm getting these [ __ ] things it's just amaz here's a good one how vegans be looking at you while you while you're finally trying a bite of their fake macaroni and cheese see hilarious did you see what's this guy's name you know that one Jamie that one's a that one's a ban Pi Piers Morgan yes when Pierce Morgan had the ate the hamburger in front of the vegan did you see that no I didn't oh did they freak out while they're wearing leather shoes here's another good one feminists when they hear the people are being drafted for World War III they're so funny there's so many good ones like [ __ ] climate change I just discovered [ __ ] come on man all day long I'm getting these that's J I'm laughing all day you know I'm I'm very appreciative all the people out there you meme Warriors keep it up you're making my day more fun and I have no idea who made any of those I'd give them all credit but they're hilarious that's [ __ ] I get them all day long man I'm just constantly getting them that's great send them I'll send them all your way great cuz I I got a shitload of them yeah send them and I don't even know where they come from maybe AI is making them maybe Russia's making them I don't think the Russians are that funny they are that funny that's part of the internet research agency was making really funny memes during the 2016 election it's one of some of the work yeah there's a lot of dispute about this because some of the people that have created this research have also partly been responsible for similar disinformation allegedly but anyway uh there's this one woman who came on my podcast to talk about it and she'd done a lot of research on it and her name was Renee Desta and she said there's hundreds of thousands of them that were created by these Russian troll farms and some of them were really funny they were really funny and they created these specifically to mock like Hillary Clinton or to mock Donald Trump or to mock this or to mock Texas or to mock the blue States or mock the red States and they just would crank these out and throw them online and just keep everybody send it people keep make people like argue about [ __ ] you ever think about you're reading the comments
on your deal what Instagram or whatever the [ __ ] it is and the chances that that's some Chinese 23-year-old sitting in a [ __ ] Warehouse on his computer yeah with a whole [ __ ] of them Ministry of state or whatever they call it and he's just sitting there firing off his troll [ __ ] highly likely yeah highly likely that a percentage of them are that there's certainly people that engage in that stupidity all day long but there's also I'll go to like I'll see someone that has a ridiculous take on something I go let me check out that guy's page and I'll go to his page like oh you're a fake person you're a fake person this is like you got an American flag in your [ __ ] Twitter bio you're not a real person you have two followers and you don't have any posts but you're just like [ __ ] on people and you're getting involved in these things like okay I see you're all you do is reply to things and when I look at your reply they're all very specific the way you do and a lot of times you can take certain things that people say and you can put them in a search engine and you'll find hundreds of Twitter accounts that have the exact same thing they're saying verbatim really yeah and they're all fake accounts and there's a shitload of them like inflam things about whatever it is whether it's abortion or the Border or whatever it is you'll see that there's a certain percentage of that argument that's being fueled by people that aren't even real people so then it's China Russia some groups some organization yeah they're trying to I mean it's part of the long it's not the whole plan but it's part of the plan yeah it's part of the whole long game to keep us out of each other's throats yeah they've made fake accounts and I bet we do it too I tried to ask Mike Baker about that remember he skirted that one Jamie yeah I go do we do that he's like no evidence why would we do that what I would hope we do that that was my argument when people when people were saying that um the FBI was involved in the January 6th Insurrection that they were instigating um people to break into the capital I'm like possibly but also if you got an extremist group if you got a group that you think might break into the capital and you're the FBI you're supposed to get embedded in
those people you got to find out what the [ __ ] they're doing ideally if you find out they just a bunch of Knuckleheads you're supposed to like leave them alone you're not supposed to convince them they have to kidnap the governor of Minnesota or Michigan or whever the [ __ ] it was where was that lady I think it was Michigan was it Michigan yeah what is that when was like 12 of those dudes were FBI informant there's like two regular guys they're like [ __ ] well that's kind of the DeLorean deal right like you can't what was the that was like John DeLorean when they entrapped him and they're like hey if you'll sell this and oh they like to do that too that's a good one that's a real good one yeah that kind of entament thing that's when it goes unchecked but also if you do have a legit Terror cell wouldn't it be nice if the FBI [ __ ] embedded themselves in that and stopped that from happening would have been great to have a couple of those in that [ __ ] airplane school huh it would have been great it would have been nice you know they can't be everywhere but but you know there's there's so many stories of them actually doing that like convincing people to do [ __ ] that they would never have done and that's what they said about the Whitmer thing that these these poor guys they're just dummies you know like there's a certain percentage of the population of this country I forget what the number is but they're below 855 IQ there's a certain percentage of people that just have low wat brains and if you get a hold of those dummies and all of a sudden you're their friend and you're convinced them hey man we got to stand up for something you know stand up for something you're not nothing like yeah we got to [ __ ] stand up for something that [ __ ] Governor man that that's the problem you know if we kidnapped her we could [ __ ] turn this whole thing around we could take over this [ __ ] country we' do it the right way yeah probably so listen we're going to meet at the Docks at 9:00 we are brothers we're are Brotherhood in this fight okay 9:00 and then you go there like I just wanted a friend I just wanted a friend I start you doing [ __ ] 10 years in Sing Sing woo that's not that's not good hey guys that's the wrong way to do it but when you do it
the right way and you infiltrate infiltrate Terror organizations I know that's real too like you can't throw the baby out with the bath water but there got to be some oversight on this you can't just allow the same sort of unchecked [ __ ] that goes on with everything to go on with that you got to wonder how much how many 911s we don't even know about that they that they averted that they averted maybe it's possible I'm sure they've done a lot of good I have no doubt I mean the that was 20 [ __ ] was that 20 2 2 years ago now mhm Ain that crazy it is crazy and there's no way that in the two decades since then cuz [ __ ] ain't got better right relations haven't got better there's no way yeah that there haven't been any number of things that those guys have had to thwart that they just they won't tell us about can't tell us because it'll give away the fact that they're inside it's that's the that's the argument for things like the Patriot Act and for the nsa's uh Mass scale surveillance surveillance of uh the population you want to be able to like leave everybody alone but you want to be able to point out when some [ __ ] is about to go down and this is really the only other way if they're communicating through media we got to we got to be able to tap into this [ __ ] we'll just use keywords and find people and and get them I'm sure that those guys have like red flagged me 85 times what have you been Googling what what I'm writing think about it read B Kingstown you know look at look at Yellowstone look at lionist look at sakario like the [ __ ] I'm looking up drug trade oh there terrorist this and they've got to go oh we got a Humdinger over here in freaking Texas and then they pull they're like no it's that's it's that guy this will be an this will be a plot in something here in two years you just watch sakario is [ __ ] awesome how much is involved in research with that like how do you do research for something like sakario I did a lot of research for sakario how did you I I was able to talk to some people on the inside of different things whoa yeah whoa that must be heavy yeah yeah and and I and and to be honest of a lot of the things that I uncovered I didn't uncover them but they were shown to me like there's a there's
a sakario is the PG version of what it could have been holy [ __ ] as as barbaric as that is and how we were shielded from the you know the the drug war and that was really that was 2010 2011 the drug war that it's based on more people died in five years around that died in Vietnam holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] yeah that's the wildest one the the the wildest one that we're dealing with like when you're talk about major problems that this country has sure we have immigration problems sure we we got a lot of problems one of the wildest ones is the amount of people that di from fentel overdoses every year um so doing research I discovered I was trying to figure out what are the just to have a a perspective on the scale of Revenue generating Industries like and it started with oil like how much money do oil companies make and if you look at the top 10 Revenue generating Industries it's up there at like five or six or seven rate somewhere it's not as high as you I thought it would be Pharmaceuticals sit there at like 3 .2 trillion a year in Revenue illegal drugs are estimated at 3.3 trillion whoa and and we talk about big Pharma as this [ __ ] monster think about the fact that illegal drug trade is bigger than big Fara holy [ __ ] wow I had no idea yeah holy [ __ ] bigger yeah and all funded because it's illegal but obviously there's a demand for it and there's no way to know there's no way it's cuz it's illegal those are estimates I don't know how they make the estimates but those are the estimates here here's a question if you're the president of the world and if you have this [ __ ] magic wand do you even want drugs to be legal what do you want to do do you want to go after the people that are making the drugs and just say it's a war on America on American Youth because 100,000 people die every year and we need to in involve the military and go after the cartels or do you say we need to wake up to the fact that people are going to take these [ __ ] things no matter what so we need to regulate them make them legal and make them pure and also give people some sort of an understanding of what the correct doses tell them not to do it
offer counseling have rehab centers have all that funded by the taxes that you're going to make from selling these things legally but allow people to sell legally because you either you're either boosting up the pharmaceutical drug companies which are pretty gang or you're boosting up the real gangsters like would I I would I would argue and I don't have an answer look I I've written movies about this I don't have the [ __ ] answer but if you look at and we he can pull it up right now overdose deaths from prescription medication Oxycontin all these various things um and that's a that's exactly what you're saying that is a regulated Nar heavy narcotic regulated heavily regulated you know it's a Class A or one whatever they call it schedule one you know you write that prescription as a doctor uh somebody's going to come knocking and go he what was this for exactly like you write a ton of them some you better be a freaking orthopedic surgeon especially today yeah and the the number of deaths from from prescription overdoses it's pretty substantially High I think it would be a failure I think I don't think it would work I don't know what we do I think I think that and I talked about it in sakar where where he says look until we can figure out a way to convince 20% of the population not to smoke and snort this [ __ ] the a measure of control is the best we can hope for right yeah if you made it legal for sure there would be people this is the argument against it if you made it legal for sure there would be people that try it that wouldn't ordinarily try it but they try it because it's legal yeah like when Elon was on my show and he smoked weed with me one of the things he said oh it is legal here yeah it's legal here bro we we smoked weed together but he said it's legal so he felt like he could do it yeah like I'll try it how many kids would do heroin if it became legal how many kids would do Coke how many impressionable people that wouldn't do something illegal will now do something because it is legal and how many generations does it take before we figure out how to stop I guess the question would be could they make a heroin light could they make light like a cocaine light because if you've ever
watched one of those shows about how they make cocaine mhm you're never doing cocaine well we we had uh Mariana vanel who uh has that show what what is that show called excuse me traffic trafficked and she was embedded in this drug producing lab in was it Costa Rica where was it Colombia I think it was Columbia per colia she was in there with these people while they're making cocaine and they let her document every and she even walked out with them when they were hiking it out as mules on their back she took the with them she retraces one of the world's most yeah Peruvian jungles to the Colombian Coastline to the streets of Miami yeah it's a crazy episode man because that lady has [ __ ] bleaching those leaves with like Diesel and freaking cow piss and oh it's horrible they have this vat and they're pouring these chemicals in there and they're taking all the [ __ ] Coke out of it and then they're packing it up this pure cocaine like it's it's so pure it's really good for you and they're taking that pure don't worry you can trust that middleman so not put a little fentel in there just to cut it a little bit with some [ __ ] yeah flower now that's the argument for it being legal and hard to get that if it was legal and you really went after the people that are making it illegally and you test everything you would stop all the fenal overdoses at least but you're not going to stop all the overdoses you know for sure people just overdose on regular Coke they definitely die on regular heroin they definitely have it's just would they die as often would it be as bad and would you have to deal with propping up this illegal drug regime which is the scary part yeah is that right next door we could just walk over there you could literally walk over they're walking over here we could walk over there too he could walk over to a place that's run by drug cartels yeah I it you know you have to look at the desire what what is the and obviously a lot of it going to you know if you if you've worked really hard you built up this and you got a family and you know you got a kid in college and someone goes hey you want to go over to this new bar they got cocaine you're probably gonna go ah you know what I don't I I've got a lot to lose that sounds sketchy yeah I don't think I
want to do that but if you've grown up in this [ __ ] shitty family and you know father's abusive and mom's an alcoholic and she's a drug abuser and you feel like you have no hope then you're going to turn to that so it prays on the weakest the most vulnerable of our society I I I wonder if if there's not a way I would would want to try I would want to try like how do we and I don't want to sound how do we just lock this place down long enough that we freaking keep the drugs out like just I don't think we can at this point I I don't think we can either I think they're so sophisticated on the ways they get it in and there's enough people corrupt on the side that let it in I don't think you could ever you could ever do it and it's a $3.3 trillion do a year business so they've got they've figured out things you know there's probably some [ __ ] highway under New Mexico that comes up in warehouse and they're Trucking this [ __ ] out and they've paid off everybody and it's a $3.3 trillion business the the corruption is undeniable there's always going to be corruption there's no one of the things that um Mariana vanel uh found out one of the things she investigated is cops that are corrupt in Los Angeles taking confiscated weapons and then driving them into Mexico and selling them to the cartels cuz you can just get in like they don't check you when you're coming in they check you when you're leaving so if you want to bring Co whatever you want yeah but when you go to go in like come on in so they're going in with these confiscated weapons that they've gotten from you know gangs and and what have you and they they got a trunk full of this [ __ ] they drive it into Mexico and sell it I've always felt if you think about it probably the two public service jobs that are the most important teacher police officer yep how are those not $250,000 a year paying jobs right how are they by the way there's there's great police officers out there there's great teachers out there but there's a large portion that are not because and you're going to see it in LA now you defund the police we do this now you don't have enough cops so now you've got to do what you did with the ramp part lower your standards to get enough bodies in there
and then all of a sudden well what I was telling you earlier they're using illegal immigrants they're using noncitizens yeah to be police officers in Los Angeles now like Google that Jamie it's without guns though at least for now um they they can't have guns or they can't have guns at home they they can't have guns on them right for now but are they are they trying to pass it so they Point wouldn't you want you know look if you're going to be in the FBI and there's a lot of politic politicization of the FBI right now but what they're not doing is getting in a [ __ ] ton of like shootings and if and if they are they you know we're not hearing about them um those guys and those men and women have college degrees a lot of them have law Rees they're going to go through a year at the farm before they start out somewhere very small have all these different training regiments before they they're running around busting down doors okay here it is LAPD moves to accommodate new daa officers who can't personally own guns can't personally own guns but I don't know if that means that they can't carry guns on the job possess their Department issued Firearms while off duty so while on duty they are armed so he could be an illegal alien who comes into this country and then no one wants to be a cop so you could be a cop and they'll give you a gun and so you could be a citizen of America getting arrested by someone who is not a citizen of America in America at gunpoint but the daaka recipients is that weird that's a interesting well that just means the people that they graduate the academy that's what it means right oh no no no is that the dream yeah so what that would mean is that's a they were brought in as a child is that what it means right yeah brought in as a child and and and I believe Obama gave him amnesty at one point I don't know that it was ever rescinded so it's at a certain age deferred action of childhood arrivals yeah okay so that's people that came here as a child um their parents illegally immigrated here but they've been here their whole life why not just make them [ __ ] citizens then that was a bigon get deported when Trump was President George George W bush actually
initiated legislation for amnesty that involves back taxes and some things but would give people like all the illegal immigrants uh a green card and there was a bunch of push backs saying well one side going no we want a path to citizenship uh and I think there the Democrats were like whoa you're not going to take all our [ __ ] Latin vote hell no you can't do that so it got squashed but but there was an attempt to legitimize all these people people that had moved here illegally um but had created a you know a home and were working and contributing members of society and and they killed it because it didn't go far enough for some uh and politically it just got squashed that's unfortunate because if you can get to the point where you can tell those people they can be police officers and they can carry guns on duty which Colorado it said did there as well that's what it said um make them citizens it seems like they're good people they're doing a good job they're here they're paying taxes they're living they're part of society they want to be police officers why would we assume they're bad let's the the problem is that they're not citizens well why is the why is it such a difficult path to citizenship for someone who was born somewhere else but came over here as a child and doesn't I'm I'm assuming if you're a cop you don't have a criminal record I'm assuming right California I don't know man yeah California might help you yeah I don't know it's a it's a wild world it is Weir weirder than any other time I'm sure every generation thinks that that they're at the precipice of disaster but yeah you know certainly World War II felt that way and I know it felt that way in the 50s with the Cold War for sure felt that way in the 80s it sure did yeah like when we were kids it felt like at any moment we could have a nuclear war with Russia I don't think you've seen the internal divide in this nation since oh late teens early 20s I agree you know when you had the big communist push then and then the time before that we we had a [ __ ] Civil War and I think a lot of that is accentuated by what we were talking about earli ear
with the social media use and the subversion of our educational institutions it's that's a big part of why we have this divide and I think one thing that can combat that is a a rational discourse that's appealing to people and the people like you and other people that have these opinions they say out loud and people listen and they go you know what he's right like this is crazy like this divide is crazy and what is accentuating this divide engaging in these [ __ ] stupid arguments online that might not even be with real people it might actually be with AI from China like what what are we doing we just we we just have to someone's got to step up and go look the minutia of the argument is irrelevant like in in the greater picture Okay obviously it's very important to the people stuck in it and I don't give a [ __ ] if it's like gender neutral bathrooms or was climate change or whatever whatever it is everyone has to First admit we all have a right to think different yeah and and it's not violent when I disagree with you it's not an an irrational fear of you when I disagree or vice versa um but until we can respect respectfully disagree and go hey you have your thoughts and I have my thoughts how do we coexist right but right now coexisting is off the table right and that's the thing that has to get back on the table well and and people are very upset about that's why songs like that rich men from Richmond that's why it hits like that cuz people like yeah what the [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is going on yeah and they want want it to be better I mean most people don't want to be involved in all this stupidity they just want to live a good life and have fun before the aliens turn us into [ __ ] vegetables I didn't know that was happening until now that's what I think that's what I think anyway um I think we just did like four hours how long we been on three three and a half three and a half hours dude [ __ ] like that yeah but listen um it's been really fun I really appreciate you love your work you're a [ __ ] awesome dude everything you've done is like just been some of my favorite [ __ ] ever on television for for sure 1883 is one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life it's [ __ ] incredible thank
you bro appreciate you everybody go watch it it's awesome um and uh whatever else you got going on let me know I'll do it I'll I'll blast it out there hell yeah thank you all bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]