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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day so uh first of all that's a [ __ ] hell of a ring sir look at that that's the real deal I always want to see what one of those look holy [ __ ] Fu look at the size of his finger bro my thumb slides up H like nothing that's hilarious if you don't think Vikings were real size 18 that's hilarious that is so [ __ ] big dude what's your thumb I don't know your thumb's like a [ __ ] broomstick that's ridiculous [ __ ] giant thumb how big were you in high school uh my senior year I was like six five 280 pounds I wrestled that was a heavyweight I wrestled heavyweight so wow did you ever think about doing MMA you yeah did you well I you know I trained I started boxing with Henry hoof down in South Florida with the black zilan I love those guys back in 2011 2012 when I first got into the league and I was training for the combine and I was like man I really like I'm really into this MMA stuff and I just started doing it and uh like sparring with just like wrestling with uh over a little bit wow I wrestle with him keep him against a cage and you know just hold you know drop to a single bring him down you know and he's like wrestle you know I was like yeah I wrestled man I know what I'm doing um and then I then I when I moved to Colorado like full-time training cuz I used to go to out Florida to train and I stopped that once I got married you know had just had to end that and I moved to uh uh Trevor Whitman's gym oh that's started train Trevor gyo yeah and Trevor was like hey you you should really think about maybe fighting you know because it's like you're 290 lbs and you're moving like this imagine a 265 and I was like dude I I'm not doing that it's just not worth it is it not worth well did like you know I know you retired from football and um you're still in the prime of your life did you retire because of injuries you did decide that you you had enough like yeah it was a combination of all that so I had I had uh double hip surgeries I tore the labs off the bone oh Jesus Christ i' had been my NFL like the injuries I had while I was in the NFL were just out of control
man uh 2013 I bruised my spinal cord I was paralyzed um for three hours and then I played two weeks later oh my God and I played for 12 it was miserable every time I got touched my arms would go numb like and I'm a defens lineman so my head's getting hit every play holy [ __ ] what was the play that made your spine get bruised so I was playing like on the end of the line on the right side and I was playing a cut block somebody tried to cut my legs out so I'm playing like sprawled out to play the cut block and then the fullback hit me on top of the head oh and it didn't I was awake it didn't knock me out it just like it felt like uh you know when you sit on a [ __ ] for too long get up yes exactly how my whole body felt from the nose down oh my God you must have been terrified I was scared but then as soon when I started when I could feel them like touching my toes um like a couple hours after it happened I was in the hospital that's when I I just started making jokes and stuff cuz I knew I was something in my head just said you're G to be fine like I just had a feeling I had no choice a young kid 22 years old 23 years old wow and then uh 12 weeks later I was playing good football still somehow 12 weeks later I had a seizure like a bad seizure and almost killed me I had to go I was in a coma for 36 hours Sor so what what did the seizure come out of a play or did it no it was because I wasn't getting fresh blood to my brain because there was a bruise on that spinal right at the base of my brain stem and it never healed and didn't let it heal two weeks isn't going to heal a bruise you know holy [ __ ] it never healed so I wasn't getting fresh blood to my brain so I was running on just like pure adrenaline and how did they clear you to play two weeks later they told me it was a stinger oh God said it's just a stinger you're fine they well they said well you know when you uh have a big Warehouse and you flip the lights off they come right off but when you turn them on it takes a while for them to come back on that's what they told me to happen they're comparing you to a warehouse yeah you're like hey [ __ ] I'm a human that's when I realized man I was like they don't care about us no there's another guy waiting
to take your spot that's what's so crazy and that's why you have to play yeah why guys play hurt and play banged up um so did how much time did you get to train before you went and played two weeks later like how much I just went straight into practice soon the next week wow right the next week so one week after you're paralyzed you're in practice Yeah so they tried to keep me in the hospital after that after like after the game and I was like when's the plane leaving and they were like they're getting ready to go to the plane right now it's a preseason game and I was like okay well I'm getting on that plane then so I had them take me from the hospital to the plane got the doctors to keep you in the hospital yeah doctors wanted me to stay but the team doctors were like you're good we can go from the team doctors are savages oh my god well they did the x-rays and the MRIs right away you know and right so that like we went straight to the the ER I was on a on a stretcher you know into an ambulance had to bring the ambulance on the field I couldn't move I was just stuck in the ground it was like it was like I was melted you know it couldn't move at all every all my muscles were just it was the weirdest feeling man but it like I said it started I was feeling better but I think I just tricked my brain into thinking like I was in survival mode I've been in survival mode since the day I came out of the womb man I just like always surviving you know just trying to survive through whatever it is that's going on it's like I disassociate from it andess just make it through great skill to have if you want to play professional football right well I don't know if you saw what Deion Sanders just said about um what he's looking for in a quarterback he wants two parent home um what's a two parent home a 3.5 GPA and he wants the complete opposite for a defensive lineman really yeah he's like I want it's either football or prison pretty much type of [ __ ] is what he wants but if you think about the position and you think think about what you guys have to do it kind of makes sense you have to be [ __ ] barbaric yeah it is a [ __ ] war in there you got two I mean the way that the size of these offensive lineman now I mean they're [ __ ] 350 lbs and there's two
of them and they're trying to move you every [ __ ] play oh my God and you better if you play [ __ ] you're gonna get [ __ ] that's what I used that's what I always say you go out there playing [ __ ] you're going to get [ __ ] that's just the way it goes what is the average lifetime of a career like in the NFL from two and a half years wow cuz at that third year you get vested so vested means you get pension and uh all the benefits that come with that and most guys don't get there and most guys don't get there you know we we talk about it with fighting all the time that a a real elite athlete in his prime has like nine years you got like that's that's the consensus is there's like nine years at Peak Performance and then it's just too much the wheels fall off the injuries stack up you know the the time and train and then sometimes it's the enthusiasm too guys lose that that fire that made them a Savage in the beginning but football is even worse I mean it's even shorter time well it's shorter but your earnings right your your earnings you don't get to that you're on a rookie contract for your first four years so you get drafted and you're on that rookie contract you make pretty much slotted out the money you don't if you're not a top 10 pick in the in the draft then you're not really making life-changing money you know um I had $7 when I got drafted though I didn't even have a bank account I have [ __ ] was just a [ __ ] poor ass kid from Ohio I went to Cincinnati and I lived with Travis and Jason Kelce we all lived in the same house um I don't know if you know who those guys are but uh Travis is the best tight end in the history of the NFL now Jason's going to be the best center both Hall of Famers just played against each other in the Super Bowl and then our quarterback went up to Canada won two great cups so we got four Super Bowls and two great cups wow in that house and we were fuckups we were [ __ ] idiots but again don't you kind of want that from I want football players to be a little reckless you have to be Fighters I don't want to [ __ ] boy scouton exactly when when Jon Jones kept getting into trouble and people like can you believe what Jon Jones did I'm like Jon Jones is a wild [ __ ] that's
why he's the greatest of all time like you need an element of you have to be [ __ ] up you have to be [ __ ] up you do it's just the way it goes you got to be a little [ __ ] up to do it it's is that true with all of them is that true like you you've been around the greats you've been around some amazing players like is that true with all of them no no it's all most D linemen interior defensive lineman though they're [ __ ] up they are they're just [ __ ] different like Aaron Donald is a different [ __ ] he was I mean he's going to go down as the best defensive tack would ever do it but he's [ __ ] wild like he's crazy do you think he tries to kill people out there he came in with that or do you think that also developed over the course of his career I think it de it develops over your life right I don't know his life story or anything but most of us have been through some [ __ ] right you know and it's just you can kind of see it when you meet a guy he's just [ __ ] different right yeah and I when you meet then you meet guy I have like pton Manning good friend of mine now you know we we were teammates for four years W won a Super Bowl together um and he still lives in Denver so we see each other all the time but like pton was like complete opposite like he' [ __ ] he like controlled the room everything he did was like dialed in it was so dialed and so professional like he came to work like dressed professionally right defensive lineman we're coming in [ __ ] slides and [ __ ] shorts and t-shirts and [ __ ] right he'd show up [ __ ] buttoned up with a suitcase or with a briefcase you know and we're right to the film room we're going [ __ ] to the weight room that's where we're going so it was just a a different vibe man and then like Demarcus Wear [ __ ] ultimate like such a professional everything about him was professional but the great D linemen that are interior guys they're usually [ __ ] up John Randall you've heard of him yes this guy [ __ ] slept on a [ __ ] dirt floor growing up Jesus you think he's not a little [ __ ] up yeah and then there's the sport itself which I mean just the amount of impacts you guys are taking on a regular basis every day every day you're getting hit in the [ __ ]
forehead every single day so like when someone talks to you about like fighting in MMA you're probably like I've done enough I don't want to get kicked in [ __ ] elbowed in the head punched no if I was going to do anything it was going to be boxing yeah yeah but [ __ ] because the Klitschko was still the champ and Trevor was like you can [ __ ] you could quote me quote him on this he was like we could talk a bunch of [ __ ] and [ __ ] get the word out there get you a couple amateur fights get you win in a couple fights and he's like in two years we'll be fighting for 100 million that's what he told me Trevor is a wild dude but he's also a genius oh it's so much I he took my pass rush game to another level like yeah cuz I was good at figuring out angles from wrestling on people but he took it to another level of like levels like taking my levels down like I could bring my level up and get it back down and come out of there with power so I was just like creating angles on guys that they and doing [ __ ] they'd never seen and is that from footwork drills yeah doing footwork it was all footwork everything is footwork it starts with your foot your feet your feet first and your hands will follow and he would I mean he would have me doing like switch Jabs and [ __ ] like that and I would use that [ __ ] on the field I would switch my feet last second cross a and then cross body oh and then and then be able to lower my level and be able to accelerate out of that and it just like took my [ __ ] pass rush to another level that makes sense you know if you learn new skills like that like you know vasil lomachenko the boxer his dad made him do Ukrainian dance for 2 years made him stop boxing he's like look you're you're going to be an amazing boxer but what I really want you to concentrate on is your feet and now if you watch him fight if you ever seen him fight see if you can find a lomachenko highlight his footwork is insane like he's standing in front of the of a guy and then he'll like switch and throw a jab and circle off to his left and catch him again then Circle off to his right the guy does not know where the [ __ ] he is yeah how supposed to play chess against that you know what I mean cuz it's a dance out there oh he's such a wizard man and that look at him his
his footwork came about from you know all the stepping like a m i mean the fact that he can just stand look at that I mean these angles are insane and then he lights off punches he's the most beautiful of any guy I've ever seen in terms of footwork because it's like you're really watching him dance because of the dance background like his footwork looks beautiful I mean my God who [ __ ] Moves Like Him guys just put their hands up they're like [ __ ] I don't know what's coming he's really not of lightweight you know he fought tiimo Lopez and lost and he's fighting these bigger guys but he's really like 130 pounder that's his real weight class and if if there was Big Money fights at that weight class and he didn't have to keep going up he I mean he's a [ __ ] dude wouldn't be beat yeah and that's the thing it's like it's all from footwork yeah that's where it all starts man your it's your base and yeah so what were we what the [ __ ] were we talking about we were just talking about skills that you picked up trading with Trevor you don't want to fight yeah I didn't want to I just didn't want to do it because I didn't want to get hit in the [ __ ] head anymore smart and then when it came to to stop to be stopping with the NFL like when I was like I'm done um I played eight years in Denver which was awesome um but then I dislocated my elbow bad going into a contract year in 2019 I was having my best season in my career year eight balling out about to get another payday and uh it was like a dead play so the whistle didn't get blown a couple guys jumped off sides and the whistle gets blown halfway through the so half the half the [ __ ] field is moving at full speed and half The Field's not and it's like fourth an inches play so I try to make the [ __ ] tackle and I like slow up and I end up slipping and falling and I'm going to get up and our 330 lb nose tackle goes to like he's like running straight at me and his [ __ ] Shin hits me right in the elbow and it goes to the ground oh dislocated all the way to the [ __ ] ground I [ __ ] dude I was i' never been in so much pain it hurts so [ __ ] it made me want to throw up I was throwing up in my mouth cuz I was grabbing at it and trying to put it back in oh cuz I in
2016 I did that with my right elbow it came out and I put it right back in it just kept going I mean that's the [ __ ] that [ __ ] your fingers get popped out all the time you just put them in and go like there's no time to [ __ ] around and I was trying to get it to go in and I could just feel it grinding on the bone grinding against each other and it was like making me [ __ ] ill then they took me in they took me in the locker room and I was [ __ ] pissed cuz I knew it was going to cost me a bunch of money that elbow deal was going to cost me I knew it it probably cost me 20 million [ __ ] pissed my own teammate he didn't mean to you it's not his fault but it was like on a dead [ __ ] play I was losing my [ __ ] I [ __ ] slamed my helmet I was like these [ __ ] like I was blaming the refs blaming everybody fuing [ __ ] refs I'm G to sue the [ __ ] refs like what my train all you know you got think and here's the other thing before games I was taking micro does so I'm micro doed and I'm at like full taking mushrooms yes yeah yeah before games so I'm taking that's the Viking in you yeah I'm [ __ ] taking mushrooms and [ __ ] Aderall wow oh my God before I what a combination what is that like mushrooms and Aderall dude the [ __ ] focus is out of control and I would just like before games I would like I would like get myself pissed off so I just would start thinking about my childhood like the [ __ ] that I went through as a kid whoa and it would [ __ ] get me in this rage mode and now it was like this crazy controlled rage so Aderall mushrooms and childhood rage yeah all together in a 280 lb Savage dude well that was like 300 lb then you know oh my God I was like 20 lb heavier than I am now when I was playing oh my God just [ __ ] such a meathead saying wild crazy [ __ ] to quarterbacks I told I told a guy was gonna [ __ ] eat his kids and oh my God it was crazy what did he say he he he didn't say [ __ ] he never tal I played against this guy twice year for eight years and that was in year four that that happened so four years straight he never said another word to me oh my God he was like this guy's a [ __ ]
sicko once I got married and had kids and stuff though I like I was like coed on saying [ __ ] like that but I just that's what you do man it's a [ __ ] head game I'm just I'm trying to get in his head yeah 100% that that I always try to explain that to people people Conor McGregor is a [ __ ] [ __ ] the things he says I'm like it's part of the game I mean it's yeah I get it you don't want to hear those things I get it I get it but that that's legal and that works it works it's it's strategy it's unso Art of War well listen to the [ __ ] Tyson would say oh my God yeah and that's what happened I was you know it's funny I was actually before I came here I was down in Nashville with uh with kid rockay staying at his place awesome [ __ ] place he's a great guy dud he's the best his place is amazing unreal it's like the dream place he's got a [ __ ] Church he's got a [ __ ] Church it's a he uses the White House dude it's the most wild [ __ ] you've ever seen life wild the wildest [ __ ] I've ever seen and then like I was like I'm like Bob show me around this [ __ ] place like what the [ __ ] we should explain people 27,000 ft [ __ ] he built a White House yeah like it looks exactly like the White House but it's bigger than the actual White House yeah it's [ __ ] phenomenal and it's just a party house it has one bedroom and one guest bedroom and it's 27,000 ft Jamie you got to go next time we're in Nashville you got to go it's the it's the most he's got a golden shower so it's a room golden toilet golden shower the room is as big as the studio and it's all the tile on the wall is gold everything's gold he's like get it gold shower he's he's got a giant gold elevator in the middle like right when you walk in through the front door and the contractor said to him he goes a lot of people like to hide their elevators goes [ __ ] that I want people coming over my house go Kid Rock got a [ __ ] gold elevator dude the some of the like Antiques and [ __ ] he's got in there too like he's got the hammer they used to [ __ ] knock down Ben Laden's door whoa he's got that hammer whoa that's like one of his like prized [ __ ] possessions I thinkz oh no [ __ ] cuz he [ __ ] like is he sure that's really the hammer who did he get it from I don't know CU that's I was going to sell
somebody a hammer bro this is the one that knocked down pin ladin's door yeah I think it was a gift oh okay I think it was gifted to him by the guy that was there and [ __ ] used it you know Kid Rock the the thing about Kid Rock too is he's got so many hits like that guy could tour to the end of time so he could do something stupid like build a white house dude that place is phenomenal H he's got this how about that double wide yeah it's amazing this [ __ ] double wide that's like a festar resort in there and how about the off of his [ __ ] back porch too the Nashville yeah beautiful he's like he's like the highest point in Nashville too too yeah no he's he's living a redneck dream but what I was what I was saying is this [ __ ] was like you know I was telling him about my you know my she was asking me like you know where I was from and about we were on a duck hunt together and I was telling him this and he's like well where did you you know who [ __ ] raised you and I said you did [ __ ] wow like I was raised on Kid Rock Stone Cold Steve Austin [ __ ] The Rock like that's who raised me Mike Tyson like that's the those are the [ __ ] I looked up to I didn't have any any other like role model in my life that I could look up to so I had look up to those guys in a way they just didn't give a [ __ ] and I was like that's what I'm going to do so when you were growing up was your mom around my mom was an alcoholic and struggled with drugs and she doesn't know who my dad is like has no idea you think by now like this [ __ ] would just pop up right right but no like nobody [ __ ] knows who it is because she would go on these monthlong blackouts oh man and just be [ __ ] blacked out for a month and you know she was abused as a child too you know she was sexually abused and stuff so she just kind of didn't break that cycle right didn't break the chain then my stepdad was abusive you know he would [ __ ] you know beat the [ __ ] out of you know that he would beat the [ __ ] out of me like for fun like that's what if he was in a bad mood and I had my [ __ ] mouth open even looking at him he'd [ __ ] pop my mouth and [ __ ] throw me on the ground you know kick me in the stomach and [ __ ] oh man like you
[ __ ] [ __ ] you know get up you know that's just the way he treated me but I got to get out of that I make I got out of that situation and broke that cycle but like when people are like you're [ __ ] up I'm like well what do you think yeah what do you think's going to happen when you [ __ ] treat a kid like that you know my mother didn't really show me I don't know what unconditional love felt like until I had a daughter wow I didn't know what that felt like and that was like the life CH it was so life-changing for me to have a daughter and to feel what that feels like that unconditional no matter what I'll love you because I didn't know what that felt like never had it so it was wow wow it was intense man my childhood was [ __ ] intense you know like even you know being in in relationships my wife is so patient with me CU like my idea of intimacy was you know my Mo I slept in an in the Attic you know in this tiny little [ __ ] house and we lived on all these I went to seven different elementary schools we were always getting [ __ ] booted out of the house but when I was like really developing going through puberty like what I heard was them fist fighting each other throwing each other through walls and then [ __ ] 10 minutes later like that's what my idea of intimacy was so like I had to like reprogram my brain how did you do that H did a bunch of treatments like e you ever heard of EMDR no so it's like you believe in past lives I don't not believe yeah I I think there's a certain amount of undeniable genetic memory that people have I think that's probably where things like opiophobia uh and Arachnophobia come from fear of snakes and spiders because I think that a lot of that probably comes from there's a memory of you either watching someone die from it or you getting bit and surviving and it gets through the DNA and it gets to people today cuz there's certain people that they for no reason they'll see a snake and they just [ __ ] freeze whereas other people see a snake and it's just like oh stay the [ __ ] away from that but it doesn't have that same visile reaction the same fear there's things that people know like you know to be scared of big teeth and and scary things and I that's why kids are scared of monsters right it's cuz we grew we
evolved around big cats and things were eating and Wolves yeah saber-tooth tigers and [ __ ] yeah that's I think prehistoric animals man I think those memories are in our DNA so I have a feeling we have no idea what kind of information is stored that passes on from your jeans yeah like one of the things I've noticed about my kids is they have very specific talents that I have very specific and uh also that like some other members of my family have like my uncle's an amazing artist and I'm always like how much of that is genetic like where's that coming from like where's this AB like my my youngest daughter is [ __ ] incredible her artwork's amazing like I watch a draw and I'm like Jesus Christ like she's 12 I'm like how are you so good like she's like there's there's something I think that kids get from their parents and maybe that is what past lives are and maybe when someone has a seance or some [ __ ] and and you know they they someone they tell a story about a past life maybe that's in there somewhere like deep deep in that and that DNA code system yeah it's all I mean we could get down the rabbit hole here but it's you know that DNA code we don't know you don't know what the [ __ ] we don't know what's in there like how's it's in with animals right like I got a dog he's a a golden retriever sweetest dog in the world but like if that dog sees [ __ ] outside he rolls around in it like he knows to roll around like I don't know what the [ __ ] kind of instinct that is but that's like in his system yeah it's a very specific thing you know if he if he sees a squirrel he's it's it's on [ __ ] like I'm here to kill squirrels you know like it's on squirrels and birds and [ __ ] like that he wants to chase him most for him it's squirrels he's a [ __ ] the squirrel killer but well that's probably I mean that's the rodents like small rodents and [ __ ] where what wolves were eating back then or taken down like because my daughter has a Chihuahua she has this little tiny Chihuahua Whip It mix he's the [ __ ] his name is Snoop he's this tiny little fella and him and Marshall are like best friends like that's a rat like the size of a rat yeah like how come you want to kill the squirrels but that that little dude is your Budd know because he knows yeah it's crazy like it's the same thing
with it's the same thing with uh like big dogs and babies right they just are soft around B like they just they know they go slow because think about that when wolves first started coming into little [ __ ] Nomad camps right like they were feeding them and they would keep them safe from the other wolves yes they it was the first [ __ ] thing they learned was don't touch the [ __ ] kids yep right or you get [ __ ] killed y right y so they didn't they were soft and easy with the kids especially animal with floppy ears the ones with the floppy ears they think that that wolves their ears droop to sort of show submissiveness and that's how wolves when they transition and became dogs over time they they developed like Labrador ears yeah that's so [ __ ] crazy the evolution dogs it's the it's they're so close to us in a way because uh they're the same thing but they look so different you know like you could take uh like a Great Dane and is if you could figure out the logistics that could [ __ ] a little Poodle right and then it would make a dog yeah like how is that how are those the same animals you know and when you see the lab created dogs that they have now man are just wild but you see someone like Shaquille O'Neal and then you see like Tina Fay yeah like they could have kids yeah like the the size difference the the way they look is so different but we're we're a lot like like domesticated animals in that way I guess make sense right because humans all came out of Africa and they traveled all over the world they had to adapt to all these different climates and that's what caused all those the physical changes and people have you read the book species yes yeah that [ __ ] book changed my life very very interesting right when you see hear the history of us it's [ __ ] wild that there were seven different species they think more now they think there's more they keep finding one they found a new one recently they found uh some DNA of a recent human species that is different than anyone that they've found before and how old did they think that was I'm not sure I don't quite remember but I know they're they're in the neighborhood of like there's some of these people that were that used to be humans that were around when modern humans were
around so like well yeah yeah we're the we're the final product we've are we though I don't I'm not saying I'm saying like from we killed off all the [ __ ] other ones right yeah like you were talking last night about how you have Neanderthal in you right yeah and it's crazy to think that like imagine like seeing like an ape and being like yeah I'm going to have sex with that you know yeah well I think people were crazy I think we're everybody was pretty close back then I mean we I think when you're dealing with like neander mating with Homo sapiens like yeah they didn't look so much different right [ __ ] it wasn't like a gorilla hairy beasts you know hairy beast with [ __ ] over their dick I mean I mean it's it is crazy that we got to where we are today and that it's wild the evolution of humans now they're turning into like these [ __ ] super nerds that are just yeah [ __ ] yeah genderless [ __ ] no testosterone soy boy [ __ ] out of control man it makes me crazy I I think that's the future I I mean I know it's not so good for guys like you and I but I think for the future it seems like uh that's where this this race is headed I think that's why we fight it try to fight it so hard it's like I think so I think there's part of it goes against everything in our DNA to [ __ ] be like that well you have this DNA that did evolve through war and conflict and fighting off predators and it gets ignited during a football game where it gets ignited during a fight like and it's like yeah and you feel I'm glad I'm glad you brought this up because I was talking about this on another podcast a couple weeks ago and uh I'm just trying to get my thoughts here and how I explained it Sports were Sports were invented by dudes practicing to hunt yeah like they're like how can we [ __ ] get ready to go hunt we're practicing War yeah we're practicing War practicing hunting like that's what they that's where Sports come from so that's why there's like this deep spiritual connection between battle and sports yeah and hunting it's all kind of it all kind of goes together it was a great transition for me to get into bow hunting I I was already I bow hunted when I was a kid too but that was kind of like my Escape you know football and
bow hunting where my Escape as a kid that's where I if I was I just stayed in the woods man because if not I was just a loose [ __ ] Cannon you never knew what was going to happen out there I interrupted you earlier you were talking about lives we got off on a tangent let's get back to that and then we'll go to bowan but so what is this this therapy it's a light treatment so they do it's a Ser the way they do the they you like keep your eyes open and you do like a breathing series and then they send these lights across your eyes and it almost put you in this trance wow and I was able and you're being guided pretty you know there's like a therapist that's like kind of guiding you through it um dude at one point I'm like I'll be totally honest I'm I'm sitting there and I'm [ __ ] just tears rolling out of my eyes and I'm like what the [ __ ] you know because I was like releasing this trauma that like cuz the body keeps the score man so like I was like I was releasing that trauma so this light thing and someone's guiding like what is it doing to your mind it took me I was able to go into this so I was able to go to my young self to the young Derek and I was able to like comfort him whoa and like it helped me grow as a person cuz I was stuck in that trauma who stuck there I was I I couldn't grow you can't grow unless I like I got to I had to like let him know like you're safe you're it's all good [ __ ] sounds wild but it it's real man I really [ __ ] did that like and then we got in into it deeper because some of some of my like frustration in life is not knowing who my father is and known my ancestors because that's like important to me so we like dug deep in this is before I ever did any kind of ancestry DNA [ __ ] and we dug deep into this into these past lives and I went I it took me into this [ __ ] Viking camp and I was dude it's [ __ ] wild like I'm going to get into it people are going to like be like you're [ __ ] nuts but I'm tell are you under Hypno like what is it feel hypnotized it feels like you're in a dream you're in a dream I felt like I was in a [ __ ] dream and are your eyes closed no Your Eyes Are Open My Eyes Are Open but like the lights kind of like you can't see anything but the lights so your mind is like the only thing that's
really working and you're and you're breathing and then you can hear this woman and then like I go into this Viking camp and I'm there and I'm like with with my my woman right and I'm getting ready to go to war she's like putting me in [ __ ] Armor and whoa or not armor but putting my like [ __ ] hide like this wolf hide or something on me you know and then I grab my [ __ ] Axe and a and a shield and I go to war and I'm out there [ __ ] like like murdering people on on a [ __ ] Battlefield just going ham you know just [ __ ] axing people and like it was crazy like so you felt this I could feel it I could feel it it was like I was doing it and then when I came out of that when what well I was betrayed in this [ __ ] dream I was betrayed by my brother whoever my brother was he bet they betrayed me because they didn't want me to marry this woman cuz she was like to them you know she was like they couldn't control me anymore whoa so they I so they didn't want me to marry this woman and I did and then they [ __ ] had me killed this was all in the this expence I wake up cuz my head was getting chopped off holy [ __ ] that's what woke me up holy [ __ ] isn't that [ __ ] crazy has that ever happened before or since no that was one time yeah I just did it I well I did like three or four sessions and like that was the last session because I felt like I'd found the roots you know of like the trauma wow so I [ __ ] like I wonder if that's in there man so that I was like this F I know that the mind like I know that your mind your mind is the most powerful tool you have so I know that it can play tricks on you too and like I watch movies movies and [ __ ] so like I was like this [ __ ] could have just came from a movie right so I was like let me do some DNA [ __ ] Scandinavian all the way through of course look at you look at you dude we I came from Scandinavia we went my my bloodline goes from Scandinavia Germany and Ireland and then straight to [ __ ] Appalachia wow so wow holy [ __ ] just all around Viking I just you know people will dismiss that they'll dismiss it as imagination and dream and stuff but I just just wonder how much you you carry I you obviously some information is transmitted it's transferred from your
genes and to your children there's some that's some of it is from them learning being around why do you think they know how to work a [ __ ] phone so at three years old already they know how to [ __ ] swipe it and like it's like they just know I think that's just easy for those young pliable Minds to learn they know how to do [ __ ] that I don't know how you don't think that that's passed down at all I don't know I think the technology like why are some people good with [ __ ] computers and like dude I get a computer and I want to snap it in half I I think some of it is probably passed down through the parents I mean they think like musical Talent like often times it's but then you got to go well they probably grew up in a musical household too that probably contributed to it but what you're you're talking about is something way more intense and it makes me wonder I mean when people do have those past life dreams or I always wonder if that's [ __ ] [ __ ] like there's always some little kid that can speak German that can tell you a story or they grew up in the during the war and you're like what like you're four yeah like there's a few of those but I never know if those are real stories have you ever read any of those that are like very compelling I've looked into this heavy one time there's a there's a guy a doctor an actual person out of college that's been studying as many cases as he could find about this and I can't remember his name I can look him up he's got the info and what does he say I think he says it is accurate but there's levels to it there's different parts people remember you can't force the CH the child to go through it you kind of just have to like let them say what they remember usually start asking things that freaks them out sometimes they start crying but there's one I remember hearing he was remembering stuff about this guy this World War II Pilots friends that he had he remember he like almost named the ship I think they were on this guy like he died in a plane crash he was shot down he was having all these memories of it but they went too far with it I think is also what happened he's like I don't know what you're talking about now oh wow so there's levels to it too but I always wonder because I always wondered like how how much is trans it
it makes sense if these beings want to evolve and learn that you should have the lessons of the people from the past they should be inside of you in some sort of a way there's some sort of knowledge that gets transferred to Children it just makes sense right if that's the case you're going to have the most traumatic memories are going to be burned in there because you it's it's and then like even the ones that you experience in life you bury those in your subconscious yeah right so like when you're I think it's what from this is the doctor Dr Ian Stevenson still going on the studies are still going on division of perceptual studies at Virginia I think is where most of the research has been happening wow a lot of lot of lot of Studies have gotten into it some people are bullshitting obviously for sure but there are many cases of people that seem to be not bullshitting death death bed Visions lot of stuff various types of extra sensory perceptions such as telepathy apparitions and deathbed Visions afterdeath Communications or adcs poltergeists experiences of persons who come close to death and survive usually called near-death experiences out of body experiences and CH children's memories of previous lives wow that's wild when you get a real scientist that's studying [ __ ] like that yeah cuz you got to wonder like it's so easy to dismiss those things so easy to dismiss it but the human mind and it's just ability to acquire information and store it in there and to to be able to remember things like all that is weird enough as it is I don't think it's that weird that those memories would transfer to children no it I mean it makes sense to me it does what the [ __ ] do I know you know well you have that you have a memory that's pretty [ __ ] intense that completely makes sense when you look at you yeah man it's so I just fully embraced it man I got [ __ ] Odin tattooed all over me and [ __ ] big Odin big [ __ ] Raven with the Odin sign on my chest and [ __ ] like I just [ __ ] full went on went into it man and embraced it so it's given me like a lot of Peace just kind of like knowing where you came from knowing where I come from right because I just I didn't know
what that I don't know anything can you imagine being alive during the Viking times oh [ __ ] Savage can you imagine those we're going to go rape and pillaged we're going to like how you think about it I think I'm going to get raped and pillaged that's what I think you're thinking oh yeah we're going to rap I'm thinking that's not my role in this my role is running in the mountains I have to get the [ __ ] out of here I see those bolts pull up I'm like oh [ __ ] go imagine how [ __ ] scary that was oh my God just a just a [ __ ] Viking boat pulls up not just one probably oh just [ __ ] couple hundred of them and they just can't wait to jump off the boat and [ __ ] kill everybody oh and then it's have you watched that show Vikings yeah it's pretty [ __ ] cool have you seen the Northman the movie yeah dude Savage that movie is [ __ ] good it's [ __ ] good man and it's like they really were it's not modernized in any way that's what I loved about it like there's no 2023 person there it's accurate yeah it's it's that's what you would imagine those people would be like everyone's super flawed and [ __ ] up y [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy man it's just a that final sequence when they fight it out holy [ __ ] holy [ __ ] I loved it it's a great [ __ ] movie I love that movie I mean but that time in history what what an amazing time I mean just there's several times where I wish I could have a time machine and just like just watch I just want to be there and see what was that really like yeah and the Viking rage would be one of them for sure I mean I think about that all the time Steve Rell actually said something I think it was on your show and he was talking about like Daniel Boone when he first when he first cross the uh Cumberland Gap imagine what that was like you know but you know I think about that but then I go then I think about imagine like discovering [ __ ] Iceland for the first time right right or imag like seeing that [ __ ] and then or going to Greenland and seeing the [ __ ] volcanoes erupting [ __ ] they got lava porn out of them and [ __ ] like that probably was [ __ ] mindblowing Wooden Boats powered by the wind just floating across the they used [ __ ] rowers too they had [ __ ] whole like all those guys [ __ ] roow imagine how [ __ ] strong they were and their backs
probably hurt like a [ __ ] too oh yeah it's [ __ ] crazy to me yeah for miles and days yeah for days just eating nothing really those [ __ ] were Savage yeah people back then were just it's so funny like the the the hardships that people talk about today and what life imagine if they had to hear it imagine if you said that to one of these guys they'd be like you [ __ ] [ __ ] is that a replica or a real one I think it's a found and then fixed oh wow cuz I don't think it stayed in that shape but I think they put it back together yeah they've had a few of those where they sort of rebuilt them and I'm like that's new wood though look at that thing imagine that thing just covered with Savages swinging axes and they're just [ __ ] blood thir they got blood on their faces and [ __ ] and that was a normal part of human history I mean that was an ERA how long did the Vikings last for like how long was that era they were traveling around [ __ ] everybody up I mean it kind of like faded off into when they got when they got to England they started like well what it was is Christianity Christianity like kind of that was like yeah 793 to 1066 CE the period during the Middle Ages when the Norsemen known as the Vikings undertook large scale ratings colonizing Conquest wow trading and trading so they had a good run just go steal everybody's [ __ ] just [ __ ] everybody up how was everybody so big that's what's crazy like when you see those guys from Iceland all those World powerlifting Champion guys and like like uh like the mountain door like how are they how's everybody so big over there I think it's like an ancient DNA that's it has to be you know that's almost gotten lost it's it's there man it's [ __ ] they say Giants you know I believe that there was Giants walking the Earth at one point there's probably [ __ ] 8 foot tall 9 foot tall [ __ ] they say they were like 20 20 30 feet tall is that real cuz didn't find a femur bone it says the average Viking was uh 8 to 10 cm 3 to 4 in shorter than we are today the skeletons that are that archaeologists have found revealed that a man around 172 cm tall 5'6 and a woman had an average height of 5'1 yeah but that's the just the people that they
killed yeah those are the ones that died those are the skeletons they everybody else died in a fire on a boat on a boat yeah if you were a [ __ ] if you were like you had to die those are the ones that just didn't die with their sword in their hand yeah they just found them stomped to death yeah [ __ ] ran through that's such that when they talk about the average that's funny so they killed a bunch of 5 foot six dudes it's like all that is like the amount of 5 foot6 dudes that got stomped to death is pretty high we think they were all pretty short this obviously that can't be true because the stories of them all being these giant Savages and then you have the guys in Iceland you got guys like you obviously they were giant yeah it seems obvious that the ones who were like at the front of the boats the guys who were raiding they were giant people yeah and I think I think that uh I think that like the the water was so much different back then that Dr that glacier water they were eating [ __ ] mus and [ __ ] uh Irish elk remember the Irish they were eating [ __ ] like that yeah so like they were eating just they were just like meat leaves and berries high protein and M tons yeah and mushrooms and mushrooms they were and they they did they used to do like IA there Vikings are like really into that well I know they were into mushrooms right they would they would take mushrooms before they would go on that was in the the the show too yeah the show was great because there was no real good guys like the people that they were storming their castle and killing them they were [ __ ] too yeah so it's like you didn't really mind that they were getting murdered well everybody was [ __ ] up back then right like everybody was [ __ ] evil yeah you had [ __ ] kings that just owned all the land and was be like nope you can't eat anything off this land yeah you're going to starve that's the real Robin Hood story what Robin Hood was really about was hunting yep yeah yeah that's I mean that's not that long ago that's not that long it's not no when you think about how long like it's just a little blip a b a tiny little blip just a [ __ ] blip do you uh ever uh pay attention to guys like Graham Hancock and Randle Carlson and these guys that think that there was
a huge reset of civilization I've heard about the reset but I but talk more about that because they think that there was natural disasters probably Comet impacts around 11,800 years ago it reset civilization and probably knocked us back into the Stone Age yeah and that it makes sense if you think about the like when you're talking like a thousand years ago with the Vikings and 2,000 years ago with the Romans and just how Savage and barbaric people were but yet thousands of years before that they built the pyramids like how' they do that well if something happened that like wiped everyone out back down to like just pure Savage people that just scratching and clawing to stay alive and then they rebuilt civilization but you would have the Echoes of that barbarism just running through cultures and that's what we have y that's really when you see the Vikings when you when you you think about the Mongols you think about the horrific [ __ ] that people did to each other just a couple thousand years ago and then a few thousand years before that you have this immensely sophis ated civilization in Africa that's building giant stone structures and perfect geometry like what happened what the [ __ ] happened yeah it has to be has to be I totally believe in that uh this is what's what's the documentary called uh well the gram hanock is called natural catastrophes yeah Ancient apocal anoc Ancient apocalypse terrible he said natural natural cat castrop apocalypse ancient apocalypse and Grahams uh is is I think I believe it's s pieces seven how many parts is it uh hold on actually it's at least four but it's all different I watched it it's amazing it's [ __ ] great it's amazing and that this is what he's pointing out and archaeologists are very hesitant to get on board with it because they've been lecturing this different narrative for so long and they've been writing books and you know I mean they don't want to say they were wrong but it looks like they were wrong it looks like the idea of the start of civilization being around 6,000 years ago is a restart of civilization yeah so has to be yeah makes sense cuz when they're finding these structures like gockley teepe and turkey and and a lot of the ones they believe in Egypt have you been to Egypt
no I haven't been there yet dude I heard it's insane I climbed to the center of the Great Pyramid yeah [ __ ] wild energy in there oh can I M [ __ ] vibrating like it's [ __ ] weird you feel it or is it just like you feel it out cu you're there no you can almost hear it really it's like this weird energy in there yeah it doesn't feel like like it doesn't put off like a bad VI anything just feels like Electric in there it's like what is this a [ __ ] power station what is it I don't know it's a they say it's a tomb yeah but that's not real that can't be real I don't think that's real because why would they spend so they wouldn't spend that much [ __ ] time and Manpower I mean maybe they would if the King was that much of a baller but I just don't think that it makes sense first of all I don't believe they've ever found uh like a dead Pharaoh inside of one of those things no I don't think there's any real indication that it's a two're like it was robbed they definitely were I mean they they robbed why would you take a body they definitely did I looked into that recently remember yeah we were they eat them they used to eat them up until like 100 years ago they ate them yeah people would have uh ceremonies like rich people's houses and they would they would unwrap mummies in front of their guests yeah it was like an English thing right uh even if sounds like an Illuminati thing 1909 they they would give people ground skull for uh like headaches and [ __ ] like that ground up skull they ground up mummy was called m m yeah yeah yeah Mia yeah jez what the [ __ ] yeah that's [ __ ] weird yeah bro that if there's one place that I could go see what the [ __ ] was it like it would be ancient Egypt that would be the number one spot I'd be like I got to say I got to see what were you guys doing like how'd you do this well show me how you move rock yeah well I think there was water flowing through that area well there definitely was the Nile River there well the Nile yeah but I'm talking about right next to the pyramid like why do you think that because there's no [ __ ] way if you've ever there's no way they move that [ __ ] through sand they're like oh they rolled them on logs [ __ ] that's sand those logs are
just going to sink into the sand well it wasn't necessarily sand back then see this is the crazy thing about the that area um is that where there where there's like the Sahara Desert used to be vast greenlands yeah it used to be like a jungle and it receded and became a Jung became this what we see now all the sand and Egypt in the early days like 9,000 BC I believe that it they had it was a rainforest so like that same area where now it's just sand and dry it was like torrential downpours all the time that's one of the Pangia right when when the when we had just one continent it was just a tropical things a giant o giant Island that was a long ass time ago though this is not that long ago but this when they're talking about the dates of the pyramids one of the the first uh pieces of evidence that they discovered was uh there's a guy named uh Dr Robert shock out of Boston University he's a geologist and he was examining the Temple of the Sphinx and he was like this is water erosion it's like there's thousands of years of rainfall that's caused this erosion and all the other archaeologists like there's no way this is impossible because the last time it rained in the Nile Valley was like 9,000 BC that's yeah it's really nuts so that means it was thousands of years of rainfall before that so that means these things have to be 12,000 15,000 years old 20,000 years old how old are those 20 that's what uh the guy that was with me he was like a local guy you know that lived there and um we kind of just met him hanging out you know and he just like hey you want to [ __ ] really learn about this thing I was like yes he started filling me in on all this he took me on like he took us all around the city and he was like listen these things are so much older they'll tell you these things are only like you know couple thousand years old these things are like 15 20,000 years old wow he's like and there was water he said there was water that flew through here that's how they got they said they brought these rocks in on boat by boat they brought them in by boat and then they would roll them up and they would use elephants and all kinds of other [ __ ] to pull them up I would love to see what they did and when you see the size of these [ __ ] Stones dude yeah granite and marble and
[ __ ] [ __ ] it they used to have gold capped on they were gold capped on the top like Smooth Limestone whole outside perfectly [ __ ] smooth like before they [ __ ] up the outside of it cuz that was all looters that turned the outside all Jagged it used to be smooth yeah well and then who knows what's who knows what that [ __ ] city is built you know what's underneath that city right what was there before them if you want to if you don't believe that cities are built on top of cities go to [ __ ] Europe right you know and look and see how every [ __ ] city is built on another one where they came in and and [ __ ] knocked their [ __ ] down and built right on top of it yep they find that in Mexico City too they're always digging around they find like Aztec stuff and they have to stop yeah [ __ ] man and what was before that you know right what was before that like when did they start when did civilization actually start was it 30,000 years ago like when when did 100,000 years ago well they keep predating modern humans too they used to think or they keep about moving the date rather they used to think modern humans were like 50,000 100,000 years old now they're getting close to like a million yeah that's [ __ ] it's a lot of time to learn [ __ ] think I mean think about the difference between 100,000 and a million yeah differing times and now not that long not that long like that yeah electricity changed a lot of [ __ ] too once once electricity and the internet electricity and then combustion engines the internet air travel everything it's like every time some new thing happens everything moves much much faster and so who knows what the [ __ ] they figured out back then they I think they had some completely different technology that's what I think and I think it was wiped out when the Comets hit I think think yeah I think whatever they got hammered by those [ __ ] comments man it there's real evidence for it too like real core sample evidence of the earth it shows that the Earth got hit during that period of time so it's uh it's a ve very valid Theory but it's one that's mainstream they don't want to embrace it because they've been teaching in a different way for so long well think about like Atlantis right like that was like the downfall of Atlantis right was
when it [ __ ] commented and then you then you have like real evidence like like Pompei mhm where it's [ __ ] like a volcano erupted and just wiped the whole civilization out y froze people froze them have you gone there yeah it's weird right it's [ __ ] creepy you imagine like being there just chilling hang having a good time in Pompei and then you see boom just a few miles away like oh why are we here why did we build a city we build right here by a volcano oh I was there's a there's a thing on Netflix about uh natural disasters now and they talking about a volcano about like volcanoes and how people are living closer to volcanoes more and more and that it's a [ __ ] mistake I think it's like a I think it's like a billion people or something live near Volcan live near volcanoes on the planet and like all of them are active well how about Hawaii I love the big island but every time I go to the Big Island last time I left it was a volcano the next day I'm like Jesus Christ yeah dude I don't want anything to do with that [ __ ] that [ __ ] freaks me out they say the steam from that [ __ ] will just melt you just melt you there's a great video of uh Hawaii this guy's got his Mustang parked on his Street and the lava just comes down the street and engulfs the Mustang and destroys it it was like someone's uh security camera caught the footage man I bet that was cool looking the [ __ ] let you know you're not supposed to stop there no don't live here that's a bad spot but if you can get away here it is look at it this guy's car is parked and it just makes its way across the street I mean this a residential neighborhood well if you think this is how all Earth was made right yeah look how does this look how amazing that is it just completely consumes that car that car doesn't exist anymore it just melts everything I mean it just looks so out of place when you see the the sidewalk or the the street and then you see the mailbox and you see this lava flow headed towards that car you're like what the [ __ ] is happening look at that thing go dude that's amazing just destroy anything and they live there but
beautiful place to live yeah I think we're going in we're going in like June maybe May early June I'm going to take the kids and wife over there have you gone to Lai um no I only went to Hawaii once and that was to play oh it's it's a great place to hunt too well that's what I was going to do yeah going to do a little hunting little spear fishing too oh nice yeah I haven't done spear fishing but I heard that's awesome it's [ __ ] creepy dude I hate sharks I [ __ ] hate them dude I feel so vulnerable in the water with when there's sharks around it you should yeah it's more than any other animal that I've been around I've never felt so vulnerable yeah cuz at least on the ground you're used to being on the ground yeah like you're in the water that's their world yeah I have no chance yeah it's not a good spot not a good spot to be but uh lenai is an amazing place to hunt they have uh so many axes de here I love eating axis too they're so delicious and it's like there's an imperative to kill them because there's so many of them Shark Feeding Frenzy caught off coast of Le what dude that's my worst nightmare right there is that real oh my God for people are just listening we're looking at like what 50 sharks 100 more well we're going to see more and more sharks because we people you know there's like a lot of effort to save sharks now yeah you know so people don't really kill sharks so you're going to see more and more of them so the fishermen were surrounded by a Shark Feeding Frenzy what what were they eating I mean these guys were probably chumming right oh probably chumming a little bit and they got bait in the water this is insane look how many [ __ ] sharks there are I've never seen anything like this youever seen uh the videos of the great whites that get the dead whales yeah that they'll be like a dead whale floating these [ __ ] 20 foot great whites come up and just [ __ ] take a huge chunk out of it take like three or four chunks out of it and then they're like all right I'm good for a few hours yeah like you just ate like [ __ ] thousand pounds of meat sharks are they're so terrifying that's why I don't surf I'm like you can keep that I look like I don't want to look like a [ __ ] seal people love it though they love it they tell you about surfing they
said it's the greatest feeling of your life you get up on that board like you're in touch with nature and you're in the vibe of the ocean and those big wave Surfers dude those guys are [ __ ] yeah nuts 100 foot wave they got real problems I would never I I mean like I've been rocked by a [ __ ] 10 12 foot wave you know and washed in there like a wash like I was in a dryer yeah no thanks they're wired different for sure my buddy Shane Dorian does that [ __ ] I watch videos of him doing online he's like a normal dude you hang out with him and he's like real chill and mellow and real friendly and then you watch him on the the surfboard like how the [ __ ] look how big that wave is like if that comes down on you you look like a little speck it looks like a building it looks like you're on a [ __ ] there's a building falling over I think part of it what people like is like being humbled by Nature just the the overwhelming sensation of the power of nature well I've been like that's how um that's how I feel when I'm out like El hunting when I'm like really back country like way out there you know like 12 miles deep [ __ ] yeah standing up on a ridge and you just look out and it's like oh [ __ ] like yeah I could die out here it's I could really [ __ ] die out here if I don't find some fresh water I'm [ __ ] it's the real wild yeah I love it when did you first you said you started hunting as a kid yeah my I killed my first uh white tail with a bow and I was just about 13 so that's when I and my stepdad would he was he'd like to hunt too every now and then you know he was into it but he would just take me in the woods once a year and [ __ ] sit me under a tree and don't [ __ ] move all right and I'd sit there and freeze and he'd go but I got you know just sitting there you'd see [ __ ] deer come close and it was to me it was really cool to see how close I could get to the deer yeah I didn't really like enjoy shooting him with a gun so I just like once I got a bow in my hand I was like oh a full-blown addict like right away it's such a different experience isn't it yeah there's something Primal about it yeah it Taps into some strange area of your brain and because it's silent too like it's like such a cuz you're sneaking up you have to be quiet there's no Boom the Boom is like cam Han
has always said that that the boom of the gun just always felt out of place to him yeah like you're in the wilderness everything's peaceful and beautiful and natural and Primal and then boom and I have nothing against rifle Hunters man like there's there's a need for all that [ __ ] but did I just the bow hunting the snap of the bow MH like that and then the whack of the D and the pop of the lungs popping Al also the skill involved in archery to practice so much you have to practice so much it has to be a part of you you have to just like in your mind you have to be just like yeah you anchor that I use a nose button so when I anchor that nose button it's like everything is you know like that mountain line hunt dude I that was the one of the most physically demanding things I've ever done really so how did this come about this is a mountain line that was killing people's dogs yeah well no that's the thing it's not there was in that area dogs get [ __ ] killed by Mountain lines all the time in Colorado in general like it happens all the time like up in Boulder they took a cat from they took a lion from Boulder and moved it out to like Netherland you lived up in Boulder so you know I'm talking about Netherland area my dog got killed by a mountain line oh yeah I heard this story so they moved this lion instead of like killing the lion which is what they should have done CU once it's used to eating that kind of food it's not going back to chasing deer and [ __ ] you know it's going to go take the easy meal and kill the little dogs right of course well they took that line and moved it out to Netherland it killed 15 dogs in 30 days jeez and then they had to kill it so you have to manage that population but what happened was Alex is out he's actually sitting out there right now Alex called me was like hey we got a fresh snow you want to come up and you know drive up here and hunt a lion I said yeah let's go uh so I grabbed my bow and drove up there you know 4 in the morning and we just started driving around trying to cut tracks with with the hounds wow so we're you know we're driving driving just find a couple smaller tracks and then we find this big track coming across across the road we're like oh that's a big [ __ ] line um so we get out and look and check it out and he had a [ __ ] mu deer just he
just killed this mu deer like it was like steaming still under the tree he had ripped it you could see it guts all hanging out cuz it was eating it and [ __ ] dud these [ __ ] things are crazy yeah this giant mu deer 4×4 full grown under this tree and then we look and we see it going back and forth from this porch so it's going from this guy's porch that were to this to this kill going back and forth that's where it was dented up was under that [ __ ] porch we didn't see it under there but you can see that that's where he was sleeping like that's where he was [ __ ] hanging out cuz it was easy killing for him for him he had dogs and [ __ ] deer and wow literally any whatever he wanted that CU it's there's a lot of public uh hiking trails that go right up through there oh so and this is like a dude ranch right so then we knocked on the door and the guy didn't answer so we were like [ __ ] so we called a bunch of different uh land owners around the area trying to and neighbors and [ __ ] and we then we started hearing stories about oh yeah last year this lion killed a dog and uh he's been there's a there's one that's harassing my dogs now this woman said she's like I won't come out of my house at night she's like CU there's like three or four of them running around here and there's like sheep herds and deer herds and Elk herds all through there so it's like Prime lion country they have all the food they could want but when you have one big Alpha he's going to he literally like Hoards all the food and kills kittens he'll kill kittens to like make sure he gets the food so killing a big Tom is what you want that's what you want to go after big full mature Tom because it's good for the the lion population it's good for the deer popul it's good for just conservation in general and in this case it was good for the Neighbors cuz he was being he was living imagine a 220 lb 8 and 1/2t lion was it that big yeah that's what you waited at I wait I it was gutted it I had it gutted and cleaned and it was 173 cape and meat was 173 so I'm guessing with all his blood and meat in him in guts he was probably 220 that's that's as big as they get right that sounds so big and if if you pull the picture look at the size of that picture holy [ __ ] that cat is so big look at his [ __ ] Paws dude that's
the first thing that I looked at was his paws and his head I mean I dude it's 11 inches from thumb to on my hand it's 11 inches from uh pinky to thumb so when I put my hand up there and that thing [ __ ] just like it engulfed my hand wow that thing's so Fu [ __ ] he could kill you and drag you by your [ __ ] neck out of there no problem right up a tree who right up a [ __ ] tree you'd be wow look how big his head is that's the biggest cat I've ever seen I saw a big one in Utah uh a year ago it was pretty big it was under a tree and we were about 30 yards away in a truck and um my buddy Colton who I was with he he spotted it we hit the brakes and and you see these glowing eyes under this this tree CU it was like getting dusk out and uh I had my binoculars on so I'm like zooming in on it it's big old [ __ ] pumpkin head but it wasn't that big the one I saw looked like like 180 that's a it's huge enormous the average that's what CPW told me the average is like you know 140 to 160 is like the that's what we normally see for a big mature time and then you get one like that that's in his prime like in his [ __ ] Prime eating dogs eating [ __ ] dog it's only a matter of time before he eats a [ __ ] person like right so so fast forward does trying to get a hold of this guy that owns his land right because there's a truck in the driveway but like nobody I didn't want to go up there and bang on his door at 6:00 in the morning you know like [ __ ] pow pow pow you know people that live back out there they don't want to be [ __ ] bothered right you know so so finally we two hours go by us calling people and hearing stories this and that and finally we get this guy's [ __ ] standing outside now so we're like [ __ ] yeah now we could drive down we keep driving to see if that because there's there's private and then there's public so we didn't want to go on this private land without permission because it's just the way you [ __ ] do things right don't be a dick and so finally he's out there standing like kind of waving at us he's like you guys see these [ __ ] tracks around here like cuz they went up onto his porch the tracks go up under his porch onto his porch and then across his [ __ ] across his uh backyard and up into the [ __ ] mountains like
straight up a cliff so we're like [ __ ] and he was like you guys lion hunting we're like yeah he's like can you guys go get this one and we're like [ __ ] yeah we be Tred to get a hold of you for two hours he's like oh was that you guys on the porch he's like I thought that was the lion he thought a [ __ ] he's like that motherf he's like there's a big [ __ ] lion that keeps looking in my [ __ ] windows at night oh my God I have little dogs and cats in there oh my God so this lion is like hunting him and his [ __ ] animals right like and then this this woman the woman next door that we talked to she's like yeah there's he's like she's like at night I'll look out my window and there'll be a lion just staring into my [ __ ] house a [ __ ] lion we're not talking about a [ __ ] kitty cat like a meow cat right he's not [ __ ] Pur he's trying to kill you and eat you and he's huge and they kill indiscriminately yeah they'll just kill just a kill cuz they're cats and they're [ __ ] up cats are [ __ ] weird and crazy that's why they torture [ __ ] mice don't eat they just torture to death yeah they're [ __ ] up man it's a [ __ ] up animal I'm sure Mountain lines probably don't do that because they have to survive a little bit more than regular cats do but well wolves kill indiscriminately too yeah they do well they they just do it to practice they Surplus kill yeah and bury it well lons will kill and bury their [ __ ] too yeah just like bears do Predators just do that [ __ ] you know yeah they because they it's like in their DNA to store food and then instinctually to save it yeah so they have something to eat later in case it gets cold or something like they can't find anything so this guy uh you get a hold of him he gives you permission and then how do how How does it go about so we [ __ ] get out of the truck you know I got Gators on [ __ ] coat it's I mean it just snowed so it's like two feet of snow underr so and it and we're at like 8,000 feet and it goes up to 11,000 and then um so it's like 8 to 11,000 in vertical feet where you're where we're hanging out at so we get the dogs on the tracks and they go straight up the [ __ ] Hill first they go under the porch and sniff around cuz they're like this is where the sense the
strongest he just they just run straight to the under the porch so you know he was sleeping under there every night [ __ ] dend up like that scares the [ __ ] out of me and then he then he the dogs get on that track and they're [ __ ] you know they just take off and uh we they got we use GPS so but you have to stay with them because if they get those those lions in a [ __ ] in a cave the lion will kill every dog that you got they'll just kill them all so you got to [ __ ] try to stay with the dogs and Alex is like all right and he's like a [ __ ] mountain goat right he's just [ __ ] straight up the mountain right I'm slipping and sliding the whole way up so I just said [ __ ] it I'm going to crawl so I got my bow in one hand packing the [ __ ] leashes and some water in my other and on my back and I'm just crawling just crawl straight up this [ __ ] mountain and we get up there and I'm thinking Hopey I please have him treat up here nope they were [ __ ] two miles that way already it took me like an hour and a half to get up that hill and I just slid down the other side [ __ ] straight down into this drainage where they they went and walked crawled up through this drainage cuz the snow was like [ __ ] up to my chest it felt like could barely walk through it and then I go Alex is calling me cuz he's way ahead of me now he calls me and goes hey where the [ __ ] are you at and I was like I was like dude I'm [ __ ] so far behind you like I can't even I'm moving slow so slow through this [ __ ] and he was like well hurry up we got him and I was like oh [ __ ] I was like I can't even hear the hounds I can't hear them so how far away is he like two miles mile and a half oh my God but it's like oh but to get to him I had to go up straight back up to 11,000 ft follow his tracks and then drop down on him oh wow well here's where I [ __ ] up he sent me like the pin he sent me the pin where he was and I was like all right I'm coming straight to you he's like come straight to the pin I said okay instead of fallowing his tracks like I should have I went straight to the [ __ ] pin so I'm like side hilling and I'm telling you this shit's straight up and down it's Rocky and slippery you can't [ __ ] post hole into it you're just sliding falling the whole way like my [ __ ] pants are all
ripped up I'm dude I'm cramping my hamstrings quads my rib cage my forarms and [ __ ] I'm cramping bad so I got to the point where I couldn't even [ __ ] walk without just locking up so I just crawled and I dropped down I'm on the [ __ ] road and I'm like I call him he's like where the [ __ ] are you at we're going to lose this lion and I was like I'm on the road now and he was like oh no he's like you got to climb back up I was like [ __ ] I was like all right I'll be there and he was like you're never making it up here I said watch me [ __ ] and so I did I [ __ ] crawled all the way up through there and the [ __ ] I was climbing and crawling like I it was sketchy man if I if you if I fell and rolled down through that [ __ ] it was going to kill me probably like it probably I'd be [ __ ] up break a leg a lot of [ __ ] can happen to you up there so I just kept crawling and made us it took me it was only 900 yards that I had to go so he was at I was at like I had it was like a probably 800 feet vertically that I had to go but it was like two feet of snow slippery as hell with a bow [ __ ] crawling and cramping so I get to him and I'm laying there under the tree at one point and I look up and there's the lion right above me and he's sitting there looking at me and his [ __ ] teeth are out and he's like like doing that [ __ ] holy [ __ ] and he's only like 20 feet from me and I'm just like I'm so exhausted that I'm like I'm dead if he [ __ ] falls on me so I have like a knife right here on my packs just in case you know just in case that [ __ ] falls out of the tree cuz that Branch could snap at any time you know he's on a shitty [ __ ] Branch like this I was like this don't look [ __ ] this is sketchy he said Alex Goes hurry up bud you got to get up here I was like I'm coming [ __ ] and you there's a video of me on my uh Instagram you could see me um [ __ ] like I get up and he's taking a video of me I'm I look like Rob Zombie I'm [ __ ] dead you know my face is pale white my dreads are all [ __ ] hanging out and uh and he's like and I just shake my head at him and and stand up there and and that's where that [ __ ] training comes in with the bow because I do this [ __ ] crazy high-intensity training in my in my basement and then I pull my bow out with my heart rate heart ratees at like 160
170 and [ __ ] just you know shooting dimes you practice doing it that way I practice doing it that way but I never the one thing I never practiced was shooting at that angle right so I was like this is going to be a little different I'm have to cam the you're on all this [ __ ] you have to cam do all this [ __ ] to make a good shot cuz I'm shooting him in the chest right so I'm like I'm he's facing me and dude the look on this [ __ ] Lion's eyes he's like staring through my soul this [ __ ] and I was like dude it's over for you bud [ __ ] daer numbered I [ __ ] sent one right through his chest man it was perfect shot um at like to me I was at one point I was like down below and I said can I shoot him from here and he was like [ __ ] no he's GNA land on you and I was like oh that would be [ __ ] kind that'd be a problem kind of intense said okay I guess I'll make it up there it's still like 40 yards but 40 yards is might as well be a [ __ ] half a mile in in that kind of you know when you're in that when you're in that like dude I shot that when I released that Arrow I just [ __ ] fell like just sat down I just was like [ __ ] this was I said now we got to get him out now I got to get this [ __ ] thing out of here right so he died quick right he he didn't run anywhere he just was basically under the tree where I shot him laying there and uh we walked up to him and well I said walked up I crawled backwards down the hill to him and uh I was like holy [ __ ] I can't believe how big this thing is and Alex is like you got to pick him up man pick him up so we could show how big he is so you got people got to see how big this thing is and I was like all right so I I [ __ ] grab him around the stomach and [ __ ] right like I'm like this motherfucker's 200 lb definitely 200 lb like I could you know I know what the [ __ ] 200 lb feels like I'm tackling 220 lb running backs and 250 lb running backs all the time like I know what that [ __ ] weight feels like and that's what this felt like felt like I had [ __ ] Derrick Henry lifting that [ __ ] up you know wow so I grab grab the line lift him up and he's like flop his head over and I flopped his head over and I and I look at Alex's eyes and I seen his eyes
light up and he was like dude this and he's been doing this [ __ ] for his whole life you know for like 30 years he's been seeing Mountain lines he's like this is the biggest line I've ever seen I think and I was like [ __ ] me picture that thing again I sent you the [ __ ] shot the video right I didn't want to put that out to the public because they [ __ ] get sensitive but well they must have got sensitive about this too but you ate them oh yeah that's what people don't know M to bring some I was going to bring you some but like I don't know traveling with meat and [ __ ] you know illegal traveling with mountain line meat you can't I was like I don't know about that I don't think we should be doing that what did it taste like it tastes like white meat pork but sweeter really yeah Steve Rell says it tastes amazing it's [ __ ] delicious I made some chizo breakfast sausage with it wow dude plus you're eating the mountain line yeah there's something going on there too it's [ __ ] something about that right I did I did my first bear dude my first year out of retirement I got to hunt so much uh I mean in 10 days in 10 days in September with my bow I went to New Mexico killed my first elk that was five days 60 miles on my feet just got after it awesome tent camping you know and then um then I went up to Wyoming killed my first mu deer I drove and then I had no I drove straight home had a retirement party and then got honored at that re retirement party in the game and jumped in the truck and went straight to Wyoming because I drew my general deer tag and I [ __ ] 50 yard shot on a double drop time [ __ ] mu deer wow spot and stocked we just [ __ ] got lucky you know we just out there [ __ ] around the field pretty much and got lucky out of all the things that you can do that'll juice you up outside of competitive Sports I got to imagine bow hunting is right at the top of that list dude that that elk nothing I mean I've sacked quarterbacks in the Super Bowl sacked Tom Brady in the AFC Championship and the whole [ __ ] crowd howls when you when you stand up I it was in the New York Times front page me standing over Tom [ __ ] screaming [ __ ] howling over him you know like that
but the that feeling never made me want to cry and never made me feel like I was like you know I think it's cuz the turnaround to the next play is so fast you know it's like all right now next play you know right but like when you have time to like I when I shot that elk cuz like growing up back East poor coming on an elk hunt was just like [ __ ] I never I didn't even fly on a plane till I was a freshman in college like I didn't know what the [ __ ] how I was going to get out there and do any of that kind of hunt and it just always a dream that I was always dreamed about so when I put my hands on that man like nothing compares to that like nothing nothing that I've done in my life like physically done compares to that that's incredible yeah and I'm hooked I'm hooked on it and then I went oh so right after I shot that mu deer up there I went straight down to [ __ ] sash Colorado and shot this 400 lb giant fork Buck giant he had like a 200 inch frame wow but he only had a he only had forks and his [ __ ] bases were I couldn't even get my hands around him and he weighed 400 lb 400 lb the the processor that I took him to thought it was a [ __ ] cow elk wow he was like this is a mu deer I said yeah he's like holy [ __ ] you know he's like this might be a state record and I was like I I don't care about records and [ __ ] like that but yeah B hunting is it's so it's I mean you could say it's Primal but you are using a compound bow with cams and you have a site that's geared up exactly for the range of your arrows but there's something about it that's it Taps into this ancient DNA it does something where it you know when people would hunt back in the day that's how they stayed alive and there's a thrill there's like a human reward involved in in collecting Wild game that's not like anything else yeah and I I think eventually I'll get into that stickbow hunting a little more but I'm not going to just [ __ ] grab a stick bow and go out in the woods and be a dummy and shoot just wound animals like I want to be [ __ ] dialed in on that [ __ ] and I like my compound cuz I could [ __ ] shoot him at you know 90 yards if I have to it's also it's more effective in terms of like the penetration has so much more kinetic Force to it you could kill them much easier well I have a 33in
draw I'm pulling 80 PBS I could send a [ __ ] butter knife through it you know and it's going to penetrate do you use fix heads or Mechanicals both yeah it depends on what I'm hunting right so like I like using these sever broadheads that those are great those I love them yeah but uh and I like them mostly because I could practice with them that's why I usually don't like those Mechanicals is cuz I can't practice with what I'm going to actually be hunting with right because you you know you [ __ ] them up when you do that shooting them into targets and [ __ ] but these things you can just like consistently shoot that thing and it's perfect yeah they have it set up where there's a little screw you can tighten it down it doesn't the the blades don't extend yeah those are really effective too because they they move around bone you know because of the pivot system that they've developed it Teeters and it's only two that come out right they they start up top and they come out like this and they're [ __ ] kind of long right mhm and it it heers like this and it's to me that's [ __ ] genius it's genius yeah th those are some of my favorite Mechanicals but when you slip it in right behind that shoulder sometimes you'll catch the shoulder or a rib or something you know and instead of it like stopping it it just kind of slides by it and you know does his you know maximum damage when it gets in there and ultim like that elk you know I shot him at 42 yards right behind the shoulder and he was only like 80 yards on the other side of the hill and he didn't have like this violent miserable death he died quick you know yeah that's the only time they've die like that every other time they die like that it's from wolves and cats CU they get eaten [ __ ] first or they freeze to death or they freeze yeah yeah imagine that have you seen these videos of of the of like coyotes freezing out in a field [ __ ] midw walkz midw imagine you're walking and you're just like that's it [ __ ] dead now this is the end yeah standing how about those people that died in Buffalo they froze to death in their cars oh man that would be [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] that would be hell is this my water yeah yeah yeah there a a nice cup little thing of that yeah we're trying to not use
plastic for whatever reason save the sea eagles yeah save the turtles and the [ __ ] meanwhile there's a giant island of [ __ ] plastic just floating around the ocean yeah the size of Texas isn't that crazy yeah it's pretty nuts they're they're trying to trim that down this what are they doing with it though they're turning it into taking the plastic and recycling it making sunglasses and [ __ ] out of it and selling it more plastic play yeah I mean well the chem the chemicals you have to use to break plastic down is not good yeah can't be can't be good I think they're uh developing bacteria that eat plastic but boy who knows where that goes what happens with that bacteria then what happens it run yeah super [ __ ] bacteria that just evolves to eat air Yeah Yeah the more problems we fix the more problems we cause yeah um but that's a big one the the plastic patch it's it's pretty [ __ ] so your um you're you're how did you get this Lon down so if you're talking about this like insane journey to get to the top of this mountain we got it so it was at 9700 ft where we shot him this was a GPS said so we we you know we gutted the um the mountain line and laid it across the back I have one of those kafaru packs at striker XL and it has like a meat tray back there and it's perfect cuz like when I when I load up an elk I'm putting 150 pound in there you know and and packing it out but I put this line in there and laid it across sideways cuz I didn't want to [ __ ] it up you know like I was like this is [ __ ] beautiful [ __ ] animal I want to like really do a full body mount on this and right I don't want to [ __ ] up any of the meat and get it all bruised up you know trying to drag it down a hill and so I put it in that [ __ ] pack and laid it across sideways and it was like touching the [ __ ] ground you I sent you that video of me [ __ ] turning around you can see it just laying in that pack once I got over those trees I I got on my hands and knees and crawled backwards down that [ __ ] cuz it was I couldn't D my legs were seriously just like every step was like cramp cramp cramp like my hamstrings were bad it was bad um I I was [ __ ] miserable but I was you know felt accomplished at this point now your buddy Alex must be in
[ __ ] insane shape dude this guy is a [ __ ] mountain goat he was guys who are on those mountains he was like you're he's like you're supposed to be a [ __ ] professional football player he's like what's wrong with you I'm like dude [ __ ] you [ __ ] and I and I do I train my ass off I train every day and it's not like weightlifting train I'm training like high intensity [ __ ] workouts like getting my heart rate going and this [ __ ] hammered me dude I was [ __ ] up for like well then I had to go straight to work after that but anyways I I crawl backwards down this [ __ ] mountain and finally I get down there and Alex is dying he's dying laughing at me he's like I've never in my [ __ ] life seen somebody craw backwards down a [ __ ] Mountain like this he's like think about it on my hands and knees crawling like so so slow too because it was miserable and I got held up up there cuz there was like this there's there was this part where I on on the way up I remembered I had to go across this rock outcropping because it was like a 10-ft drop so I like had to go across this I had to like walk across it and I remember it sucking I was like this is going to suck with a lion on my back and I took one step on that rock and my feet came out from under me and I fell [ __ ] 10 ft bow oh Jesus with the lion yeah and landed straight on on my butt but it was like [ __ ] snow it didn't hurt I was like how the [ __ ] am I just okay now like how like I dude you know how I don't know if you ever had like an accident out there where you slip and fall and you're like well this is it yeah I was like I could be impaled like a [ __ ] stick could impale me up my ass or something like I was that's what I was thinking about was like getting impaled I was like I don't want a stick going up my ass you know so I landed and I was fine and but the [ __ ] lion had like shifted all out of the pack and [ __ ] so I had to [ __ ] take my pack off on a [ __ ] Hill like this and repack him in there and then somehow get him back on and [ __ ] strapped in and rolled back over onto my [ __ ] uh onto my stomach and pushed up and [ __ ] got on my hands and knees and kept going and I took [ __ ] like 30 minutes to get that L back in there wow but I get down and I stand up and I put that [ __ ] on the back of the truck
and I'm like all right finally I'm [ __ ] here it took like this is like a six- hour ordeal and I have a I do a radio show in Denver um sports radio show for the afternoon drive so it's from like 2: p.m. to 6: p.m. do that Monday through Friday and we're talking about football and basketball and all kinds of other [ __ ] and it's great because I don't have to be right about anything I just get the [ __ ] you know like this yeah so I show up [ __ ] two hours late uh I send a picture of them with of me on the mountain with it in my pack I said current situation boys I'm going to be a little late and they're like [ __ ] what the [ __ ] they're like who the [ __ ] like what what the they're like what the [ __ ] are you doing and I was like I was like I'll tell you guys when I get there and I walk into this I walk into the studio still wearing my boots and my Gators and my pants and my I'm wearing the [ __ ] I was out there hunting and I smelled like a stinky ass [ __ ] Lion and get in there and they're like what the [ __ ] is going on with you what happened and I told the story right away wow on air so like people that were listening got to hear it like right away and I should oh [ __ ] they're like this dude shows up to two to work two hours late and just [ __ ] tells like an unbelievable story and I guess our viewership and listeners were like the highest it's been never been that day W because people were like we got to hear the story we got to get in you know wow but it was it's funny how the legend turned into me [ __ ] like the legend of this lion that was eating [ __ ] dogs and cats and [ __ ] I don't know if it was that lion I didn't check this [ __ ] in his stomach if it was that lion and CPW didn't have any reports of it either but the stories that the neighbors had given us is like yeah there's some Lions around here that are causing problems that line seems like it ate whatever the [ __ ] it wanted whatever it wanted dude if that was the one living under that guy's p it was in proximity to people it makes sense that that was it hunting ground and that guy was just little he was just a little guy you know he was a shorter guy I was like this [ __ ] lion could eat him for sure easy I it could kill me and [ __ ] eat me there's a bunch of people that went
missing in the Hollywood Hills over the years they think we because of lions guarantee it sneaky [ __ ] cats I don't trust cats man [ __ ] cats well right down the road from where I shot this line a [ __ ] kid was jumping on his trampoline 8-year-old lion came and took him right off of it and he survived oh my God he somehow survived I guess the parents [ __ ] you know I don't know the whole story so I don't just make [ __ ] up but somebody must have saved him imagine watching your kid get grabbed by a cat no the feeling that would have and they're [ __ ] everywhere they like California that's [ __ ] up they're just hanging out in your in your backyard and the residential area you know bro they're so goofy they're so goofy like their approach to these things is so strange their approach to all conservation is it comes from an emotional Viewpoint instead of a scientific and rational yeah an emotional uninformed Viewpoint yeah it's like the same thing in Vancouver like when when uh they outlawed the grizzly hunt in BC people like yeah no more Grizzly hunting and the people that live in rural BC are like are you [ __ ] crazy do you know how many of them there are up there do you know how scary they are like it didn't make any sense they just decided because of the high population places that don't deal with these bears like Vancouver they were they were the ones who voted the most people and they're like yeah no more grizly hunt well it's like in Colorado they just re the Wolves I know and look what the wolfes look at what the wolf pop the wolf reintroduction into Yellowstone was great for like the the Natural Balance balance of things right but they could have hunters could have handled that yeah Hunter you just give out more elk tags I love wolves I love the idea the wolves are out there but you can't not manage their population or it gets wild it gets real wild and they'll send they'll send an elk herd into like a 30-year down decline like they'll take an elk from 30,000 to 2000 just like the other thing too is like people are reluctant to give away um wolf tags they're like we don't want them hunting wolves like why this is the thing they don't understand how hard it is no like I'm going to Canada in November to do it
well Canada they have a lot of them there's a lot of them i' I've been up in uh Alberta and my friends sent me some uh Trail camp pictures of wolves they have a shitload of wolves up there who was it who was it that sent it to you John and Jen rivet where going oh yeah they're great great people awesome people great people yeah got a lot of wolves up there yeah he sent me some of like we probably saw the same pictures wolves yeah he said it's like a couple miles from his house yeah I was like's [ __ ] sketchy yeah they're sketchy as [ __ ] man and you know they have an understanding of them up there like wolf tags are easy to get up there and they want you to hunt wolves like when you get a bear tag you buy a wolf tag too right next to it yeah they want you to hunt wolves like it's not easy to get one though they're so smart and their their [ __ ] nose is so intense oh I mean coyote hunting if you you've probably coyote hunted before haven't you not really I coyot hunted in my backyard in California I had some coyotes that killed my chickens I almost got this [ __ ] too but my daughter she was like five at the time she was like coyote coyote I was like Daddy's trying to kill him I'm trying to kill him yeah they killed a shitload of my chickens [ __ ] those coyotes man those [ __ ] they're Little Wolves yeah they're Little Wolves that's they are so imagine like the real Apex yeah like wolves are like Apex [ __ ] Predators man yeah and the way that like if you watch those uh National Geographic documentaries on them hunting El CDs and how they [ __ ] separate one of them and they [ __ ] stay on them for just miles and miles and miles until they wear it out and they just [ __ ] eat it alive yeah and they they nip at their legs and take their hamstrings out yeah that's like somebody slicing your [ __ ] Achilles tendon and watching you crawl yeah and eating your eating your [ __ ] first and there so smart like the way they do it is so interesting cuz there's some kind of communication like different wolves know their jobs they'll chase him into a pack of other ones that are waiting they'll you know they'll bottleneck them they're so smart they I was watching the one they they lost an elk right they didn't get it and the
other wolves were like throwing shade at the wolf that like took him off the trail oo they were like throwing shade at him like they were [ __ ] snipping at him and [ __ ] looking at him weird like who he like had to hang in the back of the for like you know a little bit like it was [ __ ] wild man yeah they're so social that's well think about when they have an alpha they'll kill they try to kill like the other the other ones that are trying to be the alpha they'll just all attack him at the same time and he has to fight them all off think about that [ __ ] and you're all living together sleeping in the woods like fighting over [ __ ] literally [ __ ] that's what they are I know out there in the snow it's wild to think about like I'm glad GL they're out there though yeah I really am like I don't like the idea of eradicating wolves but I just wish that they would have a real understanding of manag NE yeah there's a necessity to it and these these uh animal groups animal rights groups they don't they don't think that way at all and they they I get their perspective too they just want these animals to thrive and they want us to leave them alone and they want them to exist peacefully like California's model seems to ultimately be the eradication of eventually and just have animals work it out amongst themselves yeah which is you know it's I hate that idea it's a weird idea because in some ways it's been effective with deer like if you think about the deer population in California like all around Los Angeles is so low like I used to live in the the valley which was like 30 minutes outside of LA and there was occasionally see a couple of deer here or there but it's cuz there's cats everywhere yeah they'll kill one a week one or two a week yeah so their population pretty [ __ ] low whereas out here in Texas uh a mount line is basically a coyote you just [ __ ] shoot him like there's no restrictions they're they're thought of as like varmints yeah so if you see a mount line in your yard you just blow them away so there's deer everywhere out here like it's a totally different experience like everywhere I go there's deer and I'm like oh this is what California would be like if they managed their Alliance there would be deer
everywhere yeah I mean it's it's like Prime deer country that's where deer W to live is that kind of [ __ ] you know yeah but so color in Colorado I mean I know that the the mountain lion is like the only big cat on the planet that's thriving mhm right they're all doing pretty good but the mountain lions are like they're [ __ ] thriving in and especially North America so and that is that is in part it's not just because of what California does but like in Colorado every unit has a quota on how many lions based on all their scientific numbers that they [ __ ] pull out and I mean these guys are in the field these CPW guys are out in the field giving information and line numbers they have callar collared Lions they keep them they have game trail cameras that they watch them on so they know everything they need to know about them so they know what kind of numbers that they have and how many need to be taken out to keep everything balanced in the area so humans and animals can all live together in the area right like shit's going to happen that's just the way it goes like somebody's going to get attacked sometimes by a line like what that's what happens when you live up there yeah right um but you should you should still be allowed to hunt them so you have to take an exam you take an exam to get the license they make you take an exam online to even get the license so you you learn everything you can about lions about their gender and how do you identify a male lion and what does this spot it's like a little black spot that that you can see that shows that it's a male you know where's the spot back in the back here like on their legs no it's like on where the dick in their gu yeah like the GU it's a spot that like that's the identifier like that's a [ __ ] he's got a dick you know right so I didn't know that though going into it I learned something you know just just do it just taking this exam and uh then you buy your license and then you have to as soon as you kill the lion you have to check that [ __ ] in right away or else they'll [ __ ] ding you and you don't want to get dinged by the CPW because they'll [ __ ] stick like a fiveyear ban on your license you know so they'll they they'll find any reason to get you then the meat has to be processed for
human consumption they come and they take a you have to when I say check it in it's not just colum they got to come and look at the lion they came and weighed the cape and and meat and that's what that's what was 173 that's why I got that number I didn't [ __ ] care about weighing it you know um like you have to take the meat and make it ready for human consumption you can't like disgard any of it has to all be used which is wild because up in Wyoming they don't they don't give a [ __ ] they're just like if you kill a bear they don't care yeah that's a lot of the places that hunt bears like that did you know that in the early days the Pioneers preferred bear and they they use bear for meat and deer were just for hides well they use their fat they they used to use the fat for everything too yeah yeah so I think I don't know have you had Bear yeah you like it's good I think it's pretty good it's not as good lion though the rivets will cook I haven't had lion but the rivets will cook it for you like like Jen Jen's a Master Chef okay she's good I guess you're not supposed to call him a chef unless they run a kitchen we found that out recently really yeah yeah Chef is like the person who runs the kitchen a cook is the one cooking it but she's she's fantastic at it she uh when we were up there she cooked a roast and it was a a bear roast and she slow cooked it in the Trager for like 16 hours it was insane it was so good the TR I mean you could put a turd on that [ __ ] triager and it'll taste good I use that triager for everything they're great it's so convenient too it's so easy to do you do it on your phone dump some pellets and [ __ ] turn it on with your phone easy you know what I started doing out here though I started using an Offset Smoker what's that you know like those old school Texas like Terry black style smokers like where you start to fire fire over here with logs and the smoke filters into the the main chamber and you cook your meat in that oh my God it's insane is it even better does it make it even better so good it's so smoky it's like it imp part real hardwood look Trager is amazing cuz it is real hardwood and but it's pellets and it's super convenient and you can there's a setting called super smoke I don't know if you ever use that which is great it gives more smoke
flavor but there's nothing really like actual logs there's nothing really like actual on them and [ __ ] this is what I I have it's a there's a company out here in Texas called sentech smokers that was uh first time I cooked baby back rib so there's like a fire off in the side and you close the lid on that thing and uh it It's amazing And you you could adjust I should put it's easy to maintain and everything [ __ ] yeah it's so easy yeah it's not hard at all like I thought it'd be real complicated to maintain the temperature but you just got to give it some time so what happens is I start off you know like oh there we go okay sentech smoker so I start off like uh an hour and they he's a great guy too he's got a very cool uh Instagram page you can see his work so I'll start off the cook a couple hours before uh I'm thinking about cooking so I get everything dialed in I know like where the baffle should be I get it up to you know like 250ish and it's amazing for reverse searing steaks and elk meat too where I I take it and that's the too so that's the it's got a charcoal grill on it on the side of it as well so once it's done smoking then I do it with high heat and I just sear the outside after it's done I got to J I need one of these son yeah well if you're in Texas it's it's like Texas tradition offset smokers but um what what would you say your favorite meat is elk meat yeah M it's my favorite it's my favorite i' I love axes deer and I've had moose and I love moose moose is great deer's great but man elk hunting is the best elk eating elk is the best I killed a Neil Guy recently yeah that's very interesting too I heard they're pretty good eaten really good really good I still prefer elk but just I that's a tough hunt I heard it's a tough to hunt those things dud they're so tough to kill this is what's crazy um they evolve around tigers and they're a big Elks size animal and yeah yeah so I hit this animal perfect it was a perfect shot at like 52 yards clean pass through uh like broadside quartering away wack I mean I'm like i s like I have my pin on them perfect release of the AR I hear the [ __ ] hit him and then he takes off like there's nothing wrong with him he takes off like on your mark get set let go like a firing gun went off dude he just went into a full Sprint into the bush I
was like oh no and then I started doubting myself I'm like holy [ __ ] did I did I hit it bad like like you start all these then we found the arrow the arrow was 30 yards past his body past where he was standing when he got hit fully covered in blood so I'm like okay this is a this Arrow looks like a dead animal we have to find this guy you got air bubbles in the blood yeah he's [ __ ] but they don't bleed there's no blood trail oh they're a different animal they're so different the guys are saying we never find blood even when they shoot him with rifles they don't find blood wow yeah they they're they're their skin is so tough and there's something about evolving around Tigers yeah I mean they we literally when when I found the animals like a couple of drops of blood were coming out of the exit hole it went through here out here right past the front shoulder double lunged him he ran 130 yards full clip before he died it probably only took a couple of seconds for him to run 130 yards yeah he was there but we never found any blood we had to like grid the area until we found them that's [ __ ] wild man there the the guy told me that when they hunt them they'll have uh the the client with a rifle so the client will shoot it but the guide will have one of the one round in the chamber ready to go yeah cuz when it takes off running they don't want to lose it yeah so I'm like why they'll lose it in that big mosquite brush that [ __ ] is [ __ ] miserable yeah it's I don't know if it's the best animal to bow hunt no that's what the that I was I was down in Texas uh trying to do a SP bought in stock on a white tail this year I did I I was successful I used a [ __ ] decoy on the front of my bow oh nice I bet that thing was like what is that big [ __ ] doing over here you know cuz he's like he came bounding out of that [ __ ] and [ __ ] stopped and was like and I buried one in his chest you know frontal shot on him [ __ ] I got it on film too it's going be yeah it'll be you know I'm doing the YouTube channel now we just we just dropped my first episode um my first cuz it was my elk hunt what's the name of the YouTube channel wolf Untamed all right yeah wolf with an e Untamed right um yeah so it's der wolf yes so I I filmed all my hunts from last year so that's going to be like the first season and then we got
some cool [ __ ] coming for oh that's awesome man that's awesome yeah yeah so the the Neil guy thing is uh like it was successful I I killed him one one Arrow do quiick but part of me is like H that could have gone way different yeah like I If you have a bad shot at all like if you have a a questionable shot on an elk you could hang back and Trail him and usually either you can get another shot in him or he's going to die yeah but with the Neil guy they run so fast and so I mean I never saw an animal move that fast after it got hit with a perfect Arrow it was just cuz you hit an an elk perfect like they'll hunch up oh they St they're elk are like super clumsy too they're [ __ ] stumbling all over the place and [ __ ] and hit knocking [ __ ] over well they have this giant [ __ ] antler rack on their head imagine how much that must be throwing you off banging into trees and [ __ ] oh they they they probably love when they shed that [ __ ] they're oh thank God yeah for a month yeah and it starts growing back again here we go again that's to me is the craziest [ __ ] ever like a deer in velvet and feeling how soft it is and all the blood vessels that are still going through there yeah that [ __ ] is wild to me is that a guy G to Shake it Off yeah drone get off oh wow look he's so happy he's like yes the Moose just shook it off that's why moose walk around pissed off all the time they're just like the Moose are the most ridiculous those Yukon moose that have like a table like this on each side of their head I'm going up there with uh Aaron Snider 2024 oh nice yeah Snider and I are going to go up at 2024 we're going to do um Yukon moose and Alaskan uh Coastal brown bear who with our bows like 10 foot brown bear oh my god dude I want to try to get him to like stand up when I'm [ __ ] at full draw come on come on D not that's not necessary I'm up there like antagonizing him trying to get him [ __ ] stand up that's not necessary that's one thing they haven't imported down here in Texas it's like they they have everything else here you know elk is not uh it's not a tagged animal here it's not a managed animal like it is in Colorado and everywhere else they just have a bunch of them at a high at high fences right not even in high fences even in low fences like they just have elk out here
and it's almost like an invasive animal really it's so weird because you can hunt elk 365 days a year in Texas well you can always harvest the meat well yeah I see Ted Nan always talking about harvest the Texas elk well the Texas uh Wildlife model is very different cuz it's mostly private land out here yeah it's 90% right yeah and there's most of the animals like when you have these big private ranches a good percentage of them are from other countries yeah a lot of Indian animals a lot of African animals and it's amazing to see like the place I was at in South Texas [ __ ] yeah yeah yeah or they're I mean they're Majestic they're zebras [ __ ] running around my wife saw zebra outside of Austin she was Dy she goes I think I just saw a [ __ ] zebra I'm like welcome to Texas baby these people have zebras they have [ __ ] Zeb kangaroos ostriches [ __ ] ostriches running around dude it is [ __ ] insane yeah you can just have animals it's like a full on Safari yeah there's more tigers in captivity in Texas in private collections than there are in all of the wild of the world that's I mean that that's almost scary what happens if these [ __ ] there's thousands of tigers in Texas thousands thousands of tigers bangal tigers oh of tigers all kinds like they got everything what kind of tiger you need what kind of tiger dere dere you want a [ __ ] tiger I can make it happen you just have to drive like real deep into the [Laughter] ranch well the size of these [ __ ] ranches here are insane right like 30,000 AC of Acres 100,000 acres there's a place in Wyoming called The Wagon Hound have you heard the wagon hound no there's a place called The Wagon Hound it's like one guy owns like like 300 and something thousand acres and it is like Prime [ __ ] El country Prime every animal you can imagine Prime man everything white tail bu deer bear Lions where was he turkey it's in Wyoming what part of Wyoming Douglas wow so you just take W so you take 25 and go up past Cheyenne so it's in between Cheyenne and Casper it's like right in between there and he owns all this huge vast God that area is oh that [ __ ] part of the country is so amazing it's unbelievable it's so much fun to go up there it's
just just to drive around if you're going to own a ranch that's where you own one some like Wyoming Montana like that kind of [ __ ] like God damn that's what I've been trying to I've been looking for I have a place in Fair Play Colorado so that's like South Park just south of Breen Ridge you know what I'm talking about right and I border million Acres of national forest I have 70 acres to myself but the rest is National Forest oh wow and it's like it gets pretty Western when we get out there just start you just go back there start walking you start coming across Lion tracks and Bear Tracks and that's my favorite hunting term when things get Western yeah yeah you want that's what you're looking for looking for an adventure man I wanted to I don't want to just step out of my truck and be like Oh Swap and then get back in the truck and leave course of course yeah that's not what I'm looking for man that's why um you know what's crazy to me because you probably buy a lot lot of landowner tags right yeah so that's how I do it like I'm because I'm building points right now so I still put in and apply for that stuff but I can afford it so I just buy the tags you know but some of these [ __ ] tags like like I the Western hunt Expo this guy bought a [ __ ] deer tag for $725,000 where was in Arizona the Arizona Statewide gov tag for Mu deer oh so he knows he's going to kill it you know he's but all that money goes towards conservation it's all yeah so he writes amazing model it's an amazing model the the the tag model and the Pitman Robertson act and what they've done with you know the percentage of all sales of goods of uh hunting gear and outdoor gear all goes to conservation it's it's an amazing model and a lot of people aren't aware of that but that the the vast majority of the money that goes towards animal conservation in this country comes from people buying bullets people buying rifles and bows that's where the money comes from yeah well did you see in Colorado they're trying to get rid of the over-the-counter elk tag why um because instate Hunters are pissed off about these out of stators being able to get the same you know getting to hunt the same areas as they do because with that point most people don't understand
how this points I didn't even understand until I started really getting into it about how hard it is to actually draw tags in coveted areas takes years it might be a light once in a lifetime opportunity for most of these areas yeah like my where my cabin is I have to wait six years to hunt it it's a Sixpoint draw wow it might take nine years you know unless I want because I you can't get a land under tag unless you have 160 thou or 160 continuous Acres so like I'm just I'm just half of that right so I need double this to get even even one tag and there's elk everywhere like I in September they're just ripping bugles all through the backyard wow that's got to be wild it's pretty cool just sit on your porch cup of coffee it's at 10,000 yeah [ __ ] growling oh the I'll just go out there with a cow call in the morning and just tease them you know I told my my wife I'm like I know you don't want to hunt with me but plea let's just go one day during the rut I just want you to experience what it's like you don't have to hunt I don't want I I don't have to hunt either we'll just go walk around them and sneak up on them cuz when you're around when they're screaming and then when they chest I watched a brawl in California last year I bet that was awesome oh my God it was this one giant [ __ ] elk and this little cocky dude is's like man I want to [ __ ] these girls and they went at it and he sent them flying down this hill holy [ __ ] it's it was it was a serious dust up they get [ __ ] up when we heard it first C clack clack and then we got around to the top of this Ridge to look over across the canyon and watch it go down like [ __ ] the the just the Majesty of these animals pissing on themselves they're pissing on their [ __ ] neck their dicks are flopping around they have boners they're pissing all over the place dude it's [ __ ] int nobody there's nothing like it my wife won't hunt she doesn't hunt either um but she like totally gets it the need for she's from Wyoming originally like that's where she grew up with Cheyenne oh really so she's been around hunting her whole life but she never did it so like she just she won't kill a spider like she she'd rather put a cup over and let it suffer and [ __ ] suffocate you know like you'll suffocate a [ __ ] spider and an animal like she won't kill
him off right like that that kind of well that's a balance though right that's the kind of woman you want yeah you savage out there oh that's my lion yeah that's my lion I don't want to compete for the Elk right yeah we're not competing for you know and that's how we're competitive in everything we do so I could just see us being competitive in that but she's you know thankfully uh she supports me in it you know and the ventures that I'm kind of doing now and what I'm what I'm looking for but people who do it get so addicted I'm like listen let me just take you with me like you don't have to even watch me shoot it she's that's her other thing she's like I don't want to watch it watch it get killed you know I just don't want to watch it like you don't have to I'm like you don't have to I was like you won't be able to see it anyways but be just being there is enough but just being there and feeling the Roar of an elk like when it [ __ ] Bugles and it's like um I was down in swash when I said I was down to Sash and when we were deer hunting I was like three feet from this elk raking a tree wow but these big Willows so you can't see he's like 3 feet I could have reached over and grabbed him through the bushes and he's raking his [ __ ] tree and we're you know and he's like just ripping bugles that's a stag where's that at that's a fow deer is that what that is oh they have a weird noise yeah listen to it'll play the red stag is even more impressive that's a foul here he's just burping they they hunt a lot of stag down in uh like Argentina I've heard them Roar yeah such a Str I want to do that hunt bad too is that a did they introduce stag to there from Europe or were they there I'm not sure they have a lot of them down there I want to go to Ireland and do it like where yeah like in the highlands I don't think you're allowed to bow hunt there I think you are really yeah in some places in Europe you can't bow hunt well they're outlawing in uh Southern Australia now that you can't bow hunt what yeah what yeah but they don't know that's like the primary way those guys hunt I know you ever look at an Australian Bow Hunting magazine no it's
very disturbing they shoot a lot of feral cats so these guys are like holding up a dead house cat like a trophy and you're like whoa I was on a plane I'm going to tell you a story people are going to be like yeah this guy's a [ __ ] serial killer all right so when I lived on a farm in high school they kind of took me in and there was [ __ ] people would just drop cats off all the time so I used to have to walk around with a [ __ ] 12 gauge and just [ __ ] pow and they just like they I mean it was [ __ ] crazy but I didn't used to have to do that I didn't like cats anyways because my mom had these these cats used to [ __ ] try to gouge my eyes out when I was like they just [ __ ] attack me out of nowhere and I'm like so [ __ ] violent my house was [ __ ] Wild Man violent I would come walking around a corner I'd walk around a corner and my stepdad would bow punch me in my solar plex oh Jesus Christ and just [ __ ] knocked the wind out of me is he still around he lives I don't know where the [ __ ] he lives now I don't I don't talk to him so I don't really I talk to my mom every now and then just because I've but I I I'll go like 5e stretches without talking to her just because like I just like I don't want her I don't want her bringing that negative [ __ ] in my life you know I get it I have kids and [ __ ] I don't want I don't even want them exposed to it I I'm just I'm stopping that [ __ ] now yeah like that [ __ ] ends with me well congratulations on doing that thank you it's beautiful when someone can escape that pattern you know it's hard man it's a like the every every day is like you know my wife gets mad cuz I have crazy ADHD so like I [ __ ] I'm all over the [ __ ] place if but when I find something I like doing I'm like hyperfocused on it don't you think that that's what ADHD I have the same thing I think it's a genius trait I have the exact same problem and I know that if I was in high school today so they probably put me on some kind of medication when I was a kid yeah well they put me on adall when I got to high school there you go or to college I mean when I went to college cuz I was like [ __ ] struggling my freshman year and then I met you know met with uh the
counselor and she was like I think you have ADHD like severe ADHD I was like what do you mean she's like I think that you're like you know you're really [ __ ] smart whenever you like doing something but you can't do [ __ ] you don't like doing at all but isn't that that seems that the I have a problem with that because that's served me my whole life I know but but when I was able to take that in be able to take all the way they explained it to me was the wavelengths right so your brain waves are like up and like they're all over the [ __ ] place and the adderal helps me just like stay here and I I just I've talked about getting off of it because I don't have like an un I'm not it's not like unhealthy no I'm good it's not unhealthy but it's it's worries me that like what if I am I I'm like dependent on this [ __ ] now right and what happens if I can't get it anymore how often you take it now every day every day how much uh 40 milligrams whoa so that's a lot right I'm prescribed to take if he takes it that long that's he's probably build with little small tolerance you know yeah I take and so what does it do for you it just dude when I wake up in the morning my [ __ ] mind's all over the place like I wake up in the morning like ready to go right away like I jump out of bed [ __ ] ready to go and I'm like up and down up and down up and down up and down like my emotions are up and down because of Aderall not because of the Aderall no when I take the adol because of the ADHD when I take the ad you know how people without ADHD when they take Aderall they're [ __ ] so when you wake up in the morning it's the no Aderall and you're all over the place take theer like I'm like laser focused huh I take my Aderall and a cup of coffee like ton of stimulus [ __ ] throw a chew in take a fix [ __ ] and I'm [ __ ] ready to go yeah man I got to stay away from that [ __ ] I think I'd love it oh yeah that's the problem well that's what the m so I was finding myself like when I started doing this radio show 2 to six like that two o'clock Mark like normally I'm done by that time like my whole life right football's you know we practice early everything's done early we're by 2 3:00 you know we're like in meetings and kind of getting out right so to start work at 2:00 after I'd like tortured myself in
the weight in the in the gym for [ __ ] an hour and then cold tubbed and then I I have one of those uh forged uh I saw you [ __ ] post it and I was like I'm going to check this company out oh morasco for yeah they're [ __ ] sweet man easy to we got a different one out here that's even more brutal we got a blue cube they got a new blue cube they're sending us to it's not the water's not still it's like a raging River and so you never develop a thermal barrier so you get in there it's 35° and then the water's just pouring around you like a river the whole time just [ __ ] yeah yeah you don't you get break when you do the the regular cold plunge people think it's really hard after after a minute and a half it's like after that 90 if you get past that 90 second Mark you're pretty much numb yeah it's pretty numb but if you ever feel how your whenever the water where the water's like moving down there by your feet that part of your feet stay cold because that water is constantly moving that's what the blue cube is like and the new one apparently they're laughing they can't wait to give it to me and torture me the new one is supposed to be really brutal I want they have if you go to Blue cubes blue cube guys uh Instagram he's got some videos of it in action like what they're doing with it it's it's it's just like a river in there like you're sitting in the middle of a raging Creek yeah and it's 35 used it you never get used to it no thermal barrier I love the cold tub you get out you feel so good I wish I could explain to people cuz people think it's like some Macho thing it's not it's when you get out of there you're so in love with life you're so happy you're so no anxiety aniet gone I feel so good and I feel so like friendly and so happy you know it's just it ramps your dopamine up 200% that's crazy and it lasts for hours you huberman is just a giant like what it two or three minutes can last you the [ __ ] rest of the day mhm yeah so this is the blue cube this is the new one look at that [ __ ] look at that so you get in there and it never stops moving yep so there's no thermal barrier and you just freeze your dick off and you don't have to do it long like you don't have to three minutes and you're [ __ ] good I do it before
workouts now cam started doing that and he was telling me he was doing it before did that's what I did when I played I'd go into the training room and [ __ ] I would I would sometimes I would do a uh a contrast but I always finished in the cold tub cuz then I'd jump in the shower real quick and like Tha out and then I [ __ ] felt good yeah you feel [ __ ] would sit in the [ __ ] hot tub and they go out and practice I'm like dude I want to fall asleep when I sit in that [ __ ] I don't want to sit in there right for 10 minutes and then go do anything you know what's good though the sauna is really good before workouts oh yeah like just a stretch we had a big infrared sauna that we could all kind of get like three or four of us could get in there and [ __ ] do a little stretching I'd get in there in full pads before practicing [ __ ] and like get moving around get everything loose we're about to go out here and [ __ ] bang I don't want to [ __ ] tear something you know it makes a difference I I like to do like 10 minutes before a workout and I get in there at 18 85° and just stretch out warm up get loose do some breathing exercises and then I can go hard right away where as opposed to when I do the cold first I like doing that too but I don't do that on like kickboxing days on the kickboxing days I'll do the the sauna first I get in there for like 10 minutes just enough to get loose you're you're rotating so much you have to do that then I start jumping rope then I start stretching out then footwork and Shadow Boxing and then you I I give myself time to let everything warm up whereas with with the cold I like doing the cold plunge and then immediately doing bike rides so I'll do like the uh the [ __ ] Echo Bike and then get warmed up with that and then pull the sled so it's nothing where I'm like leaping or exploding nothing no quick moves where you worry about tweaking something right you know but grabbing a [ __ ] kettle bell and Swinging it and God it's so good for you those cold plunges and and heat contr your body everything man and I I love the sauna before I go to bed that's my favorite I like I'll do the sauna like I'll listen to my set like so I do a set like at the comedy club and then I'll put it on uh my phone and then put if you get old school airpods the only ones
that work other airpods die like the uh the new ones the pros and all those those die off from the heat the heat kills them somewhere around 190 degrees they [ __ ] sputter out but the regular ones are good so I'll just listen to like my set go over my material a little bit and then I sleep like a baby that's nice I have an infrared sauna too I I use it all the time so those are supposed to be really good to work out in like a lot of people do stuff in an infrared son you have to have such a big I'd have to have such a big [ __ ] infrared Sonic they make like that I know but it's [ __ ] pain and who has the [ __ ] space to put you know yeah yeah I I don't haven't really [ __ ] with Infrareds that much because the people that I talked to said that the the real work had been done in terms of like studies of the benefits was done with a regular sauna cuz they can get hotter cuz the the regular ones get to like you know you can get them like lared Hamilton he goes up to like 200 plus degrees he does his [ __ ] I can't do he wears oven Ms and he rides a salt bike in the sauna at 200° why cuz he's an animal he's a crazy big wave surfer crazy bastard he's in his 50s and he's maintaining his body in a way that was unheard of I mean he's uh I I believe lared is uh 55 or 56 somewhere in that range he looks [ __ ] phenomenal he's in Peak shape every day he has routines that he develops where uh he takes weights they'll take like a 70 lb dumbbell and jump in the water with the 70 lb dumbbell and take it all way the bottom and he has his super deep pool and then Springs all the way up to the top and all the way back down to the bottom so he's 59 guy's a [ __ ] animal he's an animal and he just lives to Surf and and stay fit did you have him up can you does he have videos of him doing this [ __ ] oh yeah yeah yeah he's got videos on his Instagram of good follow oh he's a great follow yeah and he's just like the calmest most chill like focused guy like like he's one of those people you around him like oh yeah of course you're a world record holder big wave surfer type individual oh look at this crazy that probably feels so good to go back and roll that's when I'm the strongest that's when I feel the best for training I have routines in the
patterns more than just the actual activities it varies just on the time of the year and also my physical state you know it could be Monday Wednesday Fridays in the pool and then Tuesday Thursday Saturdays on the land I mean inseason out of season there's a lot of variety within the training which is what keeps it interesting for me so I don't really have a real set thing I'm not a bodybuilder or in a program where I'm just doing a certain which which kind of leads to some gains and some and some Falls but it's part of what it takes to kind of be ready to do what I want to do functional training yeah and you know he's developed all these different routines and they have a website too he has a website that's dedicated just specifically to these pool workouts and all these different things that he does but I think that any here's the other thing people put too much they're like I don't want to go to the gym because I don't know what to do it's like dude you don't even have to go to the gym you can get a workout in your [ __ ] in your bedroom well I follow so many people on Instagram that do like daily workouts you could do just what they do it's not hard to do and there's a lot of body weight stuff that's available online too and do the do the kind of training for like the [ __ ] you do in life right like so so me I do a lot of um I'll I put my pack on with 90 lbs in it and I'll just [ __ ] just Ruck I'll just get on a [ __ ] treadmill for 30 minutes in Ruck on a incline and just [ __ ] put like I like I'll throw a podcast in or something like just so I could kind of zone out and then like next thing I know I [ __ ] went you know three miles right it's like oh [ __ ] I went three miles already okay cool then I jump off and do something else you know but um I like I like that like I think that it's the same with the cold tub right so if you did it in the morning your brain is already like okay I've gotten through this yeah so I can get through whatever the [ __ ] else comes at me so you would do all this you show up at work work on the radio station and is that when you realize like ader all helps cuz then I started taking more so I started taking more because I was like I need more Aderall at this time of the
day up for the show to like be [ __ ] like yeah psychologic like Avail mentally available right B basically cuz like I would be sitting there in my co-host would be talking like we're sitting like this and he'd be talking to me and I'd just be like and he's like hello and I'm like oh [ __ ] sorry and he's like the [ __ ] are you thinking about and I'm like dude I'm all kind you wouldn't even like I was thinking about like what would it would look like if I threw you through that [ __ ] window that's what I was thinking like stupid dumb [ __ ] like that right like it's so silly you know yeah and he'd be like he's like my wife was like hey I think you need to [ __ ] maybe take a little more Aderall and she's like you sound like a [ __ ] psychopath and I was like all right and it sorry and it did it helped what it do but what has helped it just helped me I just would take like a half a dose of it right but then I was like man I so I keep I stay pay close attention to my heart and how my heart is doing and my doctor was like you're [ __ ] perfectly healthy you know everything's good you know because I I did that for like three months and then I was like let me make sure my heart's still good and it's not like affecting me because I was actually getting better sleep at night really yeah like deeper sleeps like straight rim rim sleep this is like an ad for adall I know really does make me want to try I everything's good if you don't abuse it right like just about not everything but like most most things if you don't abuse them like they were made for the right reasons you know most things yeah there's there's a benefit to them but so many things are easy to abuse yeah well out of all I mean guys people get hooked on the [ __ ] yeah right so it's like they and they just take more and more every all day long it's like that Invincible pill you know yeah I just stay away from anything that gives me too much confidence generally yeah generally I try to stay away from confidence and I I have like douchebag Tendencies I want to I want to suppress my douchebag I like being a nice person and the best way for me to be a nice person is like to keep the ego in check that's why I like weed that's why I like mushrooms I like
things that mus yeah I like things that just like just settle me down and keep me in a good Zone a good space put out good energy you know it's like uh it's like um you know my wife was what she what did she refer it come to me I can't remember what the [ __ ] it was that I was even thinking about just now but um she she was mentioning something to me about uh oh I know what it was now so she calls my Alter Ego Chad Chad's the bad guy Chad's the bad guy so like I I when I if I'm going to drink alcohol it's tequila because um um elgave is like an upper and not a [ __ ] depressant tequila is the only alcohol you could drink that's not a depressant right um is that true is that true we weal we went over this once right it's like kind of sh shaky shaky space well that's what got me drink it so now you're telling me it's [ __ ] wrong so I've been that's if you think that I would say stick with that thought I'm just going to stick with it cuz if I think it then it's [ __ ] true I think we goog I know that's why I'm saying and it's uh it's a little it's something it is different it's definitely different it's different right it's and then you process it different on it so no studies well this is a Dereck wolf study from 2023 somebody told me that I somebody it was like a I did this thing in Mexico where they showed us how they make it how they distill it and everything and he was like you know I think he's the one that said that to me but I don't know Well Ron White sells tequila number one it's awesome tequila and Ron White uh he swears by it he says like that it's the only Dr drink that he can drink he doesn't feel like [ __ ] yeah yeah the reason I remember looking into it the the things that people say why it might be is because there's less additives in it and some of those things are what lead people to some of the negatives of alcohol oh really hangovers yeah it's like what about moonshine though it's clear well I mean that's really stronger starch but it's Al that's why like the breakdown is like it's alcohol so it's going to have the same effect as every other alcohol interesting people don't seem to have as much hangover on tequila either yeah I don't feel too bad like last night at the show I had like way too much tequila that was fun and that
was yeah it was [ __ ] awesome how fun was rosean oh my God I was like no way this is awesome dude Roseanne Bar is a regular at our clubs out here it's crazy pops in just popped in and I had we had like you were in the green room where we were talking to her into going on stage but it was funny cuz she's like oh I don't know I just ate mushrooms and I go Rosanne just go on stage just go on stage she goes you think so and and we were all like yeah 100% And I go when do you want to go up she goes not after him let me wait let me wait and see how this feels and so she waits and then you know she had a real real good conversation with Brian Simpson they were both laughing she goes I want to go on after him so Brian brought her up and he brings her up and I I mean it's one of the greatest standing ovations I've ever seen in my life oh they lost aming they didn't know she was going to be that's the beautiful thing about these shows we do these Joe Rogan and friend shows nobody knows who's going to be on so it might be Tim Dylan Shane Gillis Ari shafir no one knows Mark Norman no one knows until you see them go up and so when we introduced rosan like holy [ __ ] yeah those those are they're fun shows man and they're alls yeah you never know what you're gonna get yeah and last night was packed on light David Lucas Hans Kim William I mean it's like these are amazing amazing shows and they all crushed it everybody crushed good night it was a good night but watching her go on stage man it [ __ ] made me so excited about Austin so excited about doing this club and so excited about comedy yeah your new your new spot's going to be [ __ ] they went nuts for her man she can't wait she she went to visit the club today the new club and what's it called comedy Mothership comedy Mothership okay yeah yeah that's going to be [ __ ] cuz dude that The Vibes in there last night were awesome yeah they're fun so I can't even imagine what when it's it's your actual spot it's going to be fun any day now um and Roseanne's going to be a part of it which is exciting and Ron you know having Ron there Ron was another one when he wanted after Roseanne they're like the show keeps getting better it just kept getting better it was amazing it was unbelievable man it got it just like it was like the perfect buildup
yeah it was amazing and then you come out you could have gone for [ __ ] four hours if you wanted to yeah but it was a perfect amount of time it was it was a great night and the just the hang there too like the The Green Room hang yeah man that was big aome Vibes Austin's a great town man something special about this place you know it's also a lot of people that have come here have escaped from a place that was suppressing and they they got here and they're like this is better ah Freedom yeah a little bit of Freedom yeah it's like California is just such a mess man [ __ ] disaster it's like an ex-girlfriend that you used to love her and now she's doing meth and works for the cartel like God what happened to you you know that's it's like you used to be hot you used to be my favorite I used to go back to California I was like [ __ ] yeah West Coast forever [ __ ] like we got the ocean the it never rains out we got the comedy store but there's going to be human [ __ ] on the sidewalk yeah at the pandemic well it was always bad it was getting pretty bad uh in 2019 tent wise the the homeless crisis was getting pretty bad but it's just out of [ __ ] control now and I don't know how they put that Genie back in the bottle it doesn't seem like they're doing anything radical to reverse the policies that put them in that position in the first place no they're just making it worse well well then then the people move out of the state and they go to another state and [ __ ] vote the same way yeah that's what are you doing that for don't California my Texas it's the The Motto out here Tennessee says the same [ __ ] cuz Nashville is a badass City mhm awesome Place Well when things get soft and things get easy people start they they put forth politicians that are going to send these Progressive values out into action and just like these people they unhoused we need to help them like yeah you do need to help them but making them letting them camp on your [ __ ] streets is not helping any that's not helping anybody en being empathetic you're you're ruining your city you're just enabling at that point like you don't allow littering so you can't you're not even supposed to throw a cigarette butt on the street right we all agree so why is it okay to have your tent there why why is it okay to have
bags of [ __ ] there why why is it okay to have like stacks of dirty clothes and a bag of meth like and needles the whole thing is just so strange that piss it should be priority number one to keep the the city clean and it's not it's not which is wild to me yeah the the people that live in the country should be the priority number one not any of this other [ __ ] I know I know the amount of money that we've sent to other countries I know that I mean you could solve the issues yeah solve all of them a long time ago all of them and that's our money we gave them that money it's tax dollar D I paid I paid 48 cents on the dollar for 10 years straight to these [ __ ] and that's what they're going to do with it yeah yeah exactly that pisses me off that's what pisses me off it's what they do with the money yeah you're gonna Force you'll throw me in like dude this Ty it's tyranny it's tyranny sorry tyranny tyranny [ __ ] tyranny like it is in a way founding fathers are rolling over in their grave thinking about the way we're paying taxes and they probably never expected civilization to get where it is no there's no way nobody did and and it's they wouldn't have written laws the way they did for a politician to step up and and call it the problem that it is and then like allocate money towards that the immense amount of money that you need the same kind of money we're dedicating to other countries that would be very unpopular because so many people who have money would be like no you're not going to take my money and give it to poor people get the [ __ ] out of here but it's the only way to fix this country they they've got to do something they got to take something some very involved strategy it has to be very well thought out and it has to involve a shitload of money and well they it's pretty clear they have a [ __ ] ton of money all this money that they're giving to I mean giving it to Ukraine yeah where' that come from where the [ __ ] did that money come from you guys just had that you fix school system a time ago it's kind of like whenever yeah you could have fixed all the public schools you could have made sure that like instead of [ __ ] kids getting taught on Tik Tok how to dance you know the kids in China are learning how to take guns part and how to [ __ ] do math and
how to [ __ ] like why don't why aren't we teaching you want to teach me about all these [ __ ] genders but you don't want to teach me how to how to uh change a tire how to change oil in my car how to manage a checkbook I had no [ __ ] CL I came in the NFL and they gave me 2 million bucks and I was like what the [ __ ] do I do with this what did you do just put in a bank account I just [ __ ] put it in a bank account I had no idea what the [ __ ] to do I was like okay I guess I get a bank account and a debit card and a credit card and they're like you have no credit they're like you have no credit like I was like well what the [ __ ] is credit wow what is that like how do I build credit they're like you have to pay bills back you got to pay bills you take loans and pay the loans off I was like that's [ __ ] [ __ ] I said they're literally controlling everything that's when I started like losing my mind about the control because I have an issue with authority already as you can imagine you think I [ __ ] had any roles grown up no I did whatever [ __ ] I wanted when I wanted to like uh I'm not going to raise my hand and go take a piss sorry I got to worry about how I'm going to eat dinner tonight [ __ ] lady like leave me alone you know um but when I started paying taxes well I got that check and I saw I was like well I thought it was I thought it was 4 million they're like no uh they take the taxes out you don't even get to see it and I'm like I don't even get to [ __ ] touch the money yet and they take it right away like they take a piece they didn't do a single pushup they didn't do [ __ ] [ __ ] jack [ __ ] no deadlifts oh they didn't [ __ ] squats they didn't take on any [ __ ] double teams or getting concussions nothing they and they take half of it and then they send it to another country while we [ __ ] literal people that fought and almost died and gave their life up basically for our country and they're [ __ ] sleeping in a tent with mental illness problems and no therapy no counseling but we'll send [ __ ] 500 billion dollars to another country yeah it's weird we're so strange it pisses me off uh and so I just think that I just think that like we should have a say in what the [ __ ] they're doing with our money
you know and they're like who you got to vote this way and that way it's like you could do all that voting but the lobbyists are what are doing all the [ __ ] shady [ __ ] in the back you know even if you do voting you're not going to stop them from giving that money to Ukraine exactly it doesn't matter this is all at at a level that regular voting doesn't stop it doesn't stop and unless you get some very headstrong politician like some JFK type dude who puts a stop to everything what they did to him exactly and they just admitted it and people are like well whatever sort of admitted it yeah I mean but we all know it's a slow trickle it's like they're admitting that covid was a lab leak it's like this slow trickle yeah you they give it to you slowly yeah I mean that's it's a smart strategy instead of all at once saying we were wrong you slowly say it seems we were wrong there's a low probability that we were wrong there's a reasonable probability that we were wrong and then it just keeps getting more and more yeah we were wrong it's the same with the vaccine yeah it's it's the same with a lot of things man and these narratives that get pushed on mainstream media are it's it's shocking how they don't feel bad for what they do it's shocking it's in because dude these people are all like evil narcissist [ __ ] like I don't even know if they're evil I think they're captured I think they're captured by an institution that revolves around advertising revenue and that's the heavily sponsored by pharmaceutical companies and all sorts of other corporations Super Bowl was sponsored by fizer I know how about that Devil Dance that that did dude did at the Grammys and it say brought to you by fizer dude like you just showed the devil and a bunch and and you're you're basically saying you sponsor the devil like what I'm not even a religious person I'm not like a person who's like into the devil but I see that and I'm like this you if you want to drive conspiracy theorists nuts this is how especially Christians like Christians who don't want this like tubby dude wearing a [ __ ] devil outfit dancing around Tim Dylan said he looks like a plumber he looks like pull could have done that on purpose can you pull that up decided to play that fizer they after that knowing
what everyone would get their panties in a bunch well I think fizer was probably already sponsoring it but they had to know that that graphic was going to go over the they didn't they said they didn't they asked this they were not an official sponsor of the event but they did sponsor the broadcast and they didn't get to say what when that piece went up oh I didn't mean fiser I mean the people that put together the broadcast they knew that that ad was going to go up oh that's saying like whoever is in control of running those pieces at the end was like that's probably watch this if someone's really funny that would be that's very funny yeah I mean someone could have done that it's also a very good strategy in terms of getting people to make that video go viral and for that dude what's his name Sam Smith yeah that's what I'm that that dude that's like the greatest thing that ever happened to him I didn't even know who the [ __ ] he was until I saw that thing can I can you pull it up cuz I'm not I'm conf I'm have you seen it I don't think I've seen it it's ridiculous he's uh dancing around he's in all like red spandex or red leather and he's he's the devil and there's a bunch of demons behind him and it's brought to you by fiser it's Sam Smith like the [ __ ] the singer singer yeah some singer dude I didn't even know who he was I'm trying to find the videos are everyone else has made comments on this video already so I can I'll show you some of the pictures of it I guess um this is what his performance looked like it a very devil is dude I think there's all kinds of wild [ __ ] going on with these [ __ ] yeah that is a these Hollywood elitists dud that's very strange it's very strange some of these Hollywood [ __ ] people are it's very strange that no one was like what the [ __ ] Candace Owen of course she's going deep you know she's [ __ ] trying find she's like this is [ __ ] Candace Owens had one of my first rather one of my favorite moments with uh the New York Times is how it aired like the Grammys brought to you by fiser so fizer with like Hellfire behind it that's what I think that's what I'm saying I someone was like watch this why not away hey man you got to think you see her face right there she was like what the [ __ ] is this people who are responsible for the graphics and all the
computer stuff those are guys like us they're like internet dudes thought I was like of course they did good chance it doesn't have to be but there's a good chance this is some [ __ ] good chance of some dude laughing his ass off at a bar telling everybody what he did the [ __ ] is that an nft yeah it's well it's a it's a digital U art that's created by Bel and there's an nft that goes with it so if you see that little QR code if you click on that you get the nft but that nft thing doesn't mean anything to me but means something to me just the art that it's like animated and it moves around and stuff and it's you know who that guy is be I've heard of him he does digital art every day every day he puts a new piece on his Instagram and on his website every single day 30065 days a year and he's like this is all his stuff that's on his Instagram it's all like oh that's [ __ ] wild it's all very very weird [ __ ] what is that what is that he's just real weird his stuff is very very weird um yeah oh you're on Twitter yeah go to uh his yeah there's his photos so it's all this very bizarre digital art that he makes is that Logan and Jake Paul that's Logan porn does a drink on Jake the [ __ ] so weird that's so weird he's a funny dude though man we had him on as a podcast guest he's really fun and super super nice guy [ __ ] talented and but it's really hilarious he's like CU people are trying to find hidden meetings in my art he's like why' you have dicks in missile silos he's like I don't know they're [ __ ] just [ __ ] dicks kind of what came in my head that's what he [ __ ] was thinking about yeah I mean he's got to come up with a new concept every single day so he's got like these giant Trump robots with like Hillary Clinton's head operating him and it's it's so strange giant babies with machine guns like that type of [ __ ] but so he made that for us he gave it to us so I guess it's an NF Tech but that nft thing people seem to have wised up to that yeah it seems like everybody was going nuts and spining all look at [Laughter] this is that Tucker Carlson [ __ ] agreen now yeah yeah oh Jesus Christ Tucker should put that on his wall
that's [ __ ] great yeah he's he's quite a character [ __ ] Tucker but yeah the nft thing to me is like oh I I don't get it yeah I don't get it either it's kind of like I I started to dive into the crypto [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah and I was like ah yeah D I had guys there's guys in the NFL putting their whole [ __ ] paycheck in there yeah I'm like you guys are [ __ ] idiots that seems like not wise this is not smart I was like it's not regulated do you know anybody who lost money in that uh that FTX thing no I don't know I mean I'm I'm sure I do know somebody they just don't want to talk about it because it's [ __ ] do you know anybody Jam that lost money in that FTX set no not I mean not like that real investment money no no I didn't know any little [ __ ] around money maybe yeah that's all I did I did like 10 grand in in crypto and that was it it's I love the idea behind it I love the idea behind Bitcoin decentralized digital currency controlled by the people you can't you can't [ __ ] with it people can't yeah I like that idea but I don't know just seems like like a long road and it seems like if I was in charge of fiat currency I would do everything I could to sabotage that yeah and well think about Elon Elon said one thing about [ __ ] mining mining for the Bitcoin that was bad for the environment and [ __ ] right down the [ __ ] [ __ ] like is that true like he killed oh about oh elon's mentioning it yeah he said something about he said something about he's not mining anymore because it's bad for the environment right it's like it takes too much power to [ __ ] to mine Bitcoin to mine Bitcoin yeah Adam Curry mines Bitcoin just for a goof and I remember the because I was watching it every day and like he said that in the next day it was like [ __ ] that's the other thing like with the New York Stock exchange it's like there's a time when everybody can [ __ ] trade right yeah like these [ __ ] are up at like 2:00 in the morning all [ __ ] night you know trading [ __ ] Bitcoin back and forth all night and it's like you guys are [ __ ] like crackheads with this thing you know well it is it is like gambling it is in many ways I mean it has to excite the same parts of the brain that get people addicted to gambling because I know a lot of stock
this one dude that I knew from the fight gyms back in Boston he was a stock broker and this dude was a wild [ __ ] and then one day I met him out at a bar and he was wearing a suit I go what are you doing he's like oh dude I'm a [ __ ] stock broker now he's doing coke and [ __ ] he was wild he's like I'm making so much money I'm like wow that's the kind of guy that gets into stock he just wanted that thrill yeah the thrill the big swings the big crazy swings he was getting hammered and telling me all like what happened how he became a stock broker what year was that oh this is it had to be the 80s oh and80s this had to be like it had to be 89 or 90 because it's like right after right right when I was starting to do comedy I ran into him I remember thinking this dude's a [ __ ] Maniac straight off of Wolf of Wall Street yeah oh there was so many of those guys like Tim Dylan tells stories about his days when he was selling subprime mortgages like the these were guys were animals he was partying all the time like Tim had a serious drug problem and he was Selling Houses functioning functioning on all kinds of pills smoking cracking all kinds of [ __ ] crazy smoke crack with me yeah Jesus Christ let's make this deal serious yeah it's a wild way to live your life it is man the thing about the Aderall thing about living your life taking Aderall all the time is like God damn those people seem productive I know people that take at listen to me I'm like talking myself into doing Aderall that's what's going on here I mean I'm not going to tell you to do it because once you once you start taking it you're probably not going to stop and that's kind of it's been for me the comedians that I know that take it are [ __ ] up though I don't know if it's good for comedians you don't seem to have an issue get [ __ ] done yeah we get [ __ ] done so right but maybe we get [ __ ] done better that's the thing what is coffee it's a stimulant I like stimulants yeah coffee different level of meth I thinking that's what my wife always says she's like sorry I can't just wake up because I'm not taking meth every morning well but she's the one hey baby you told me to take extra I'm like you
told me to take more and she's like I know I'm just she just is hilarious yeah she's she's just joking with me does is there any long-term problems in terms of like toxicity with that stuff or is it just a stimulant it's like it's it's one of those I I haven't had any issues I've been taking since I was 19 so you're poster boy for ad until they tell me until they tell me that this is [ __ ] hurting you yeah you know I have you ever tried not taking it oh it's not good like how many how long have you gone without taking it oh five days what's that like it sucks I drink like [ __ ] 20 cups of coffee I'm all [ __ ] jittery and wiry and dehydrated and [ __ ] everything's [ __ ] like my bedroom's a mess the [ __ ] clothes are everywhere like like my my living space takes the biggest hit because I like can't even think about picking up that [ __ ] towel because I'm like locked in on something that's way over here yeah so I just step over problems and [ __ ] get to this thing and just ignore the rest and AD helps makes me be able to like like okay I could do this and then I could do that and then I could like it helps me like manage the manage the day right and whenever and the other thing is I've spend so much time battling depression and anxiety that's already built in that i' like by the end of the day I'm [ __ ] wiped because I've spent you know probably four hours like controlling my [ __ ] anxiety right my anxiety depression and like dealing with that like on and off throughout the day because it just like hits you in waves um so then and then doing work and then getting other like all the [ __ ] that I have going on because when I was playing football I was just focused on football that's all I had to do was focus on football now I'm focused on all the other [ __ ] that I wanted to do so I'm focused on bow hunting I'm focused on podcasting I'm focused on doing a radio show I'm focused on filming I'm focused on business deals that I was looking to work all these things you're juggling so like on a every so I wake up in the morning that's why when you're talking about warm Waring up before you get to work out like I have to start warming up again cuz I used to warm up like for like 30 minutes before I did anything
doing all kinds of movement and all this [ __ ] now I just walk downstairs and just [ __ ] let's go [ __ ] grab a kettle bell and start swinging that [ __ ] for 30 rounds you know like and getting on the rower and [ __ ] hitting cows on the rower and then grabbing my bow and shooting it like it's all you know timed out but you know I don't like taking out before I work out I like not having it because then I like I can go all over the place with it I like the mushrooms before it work out really yes how much just this tiny little micro do just capsules I have these capsules made that why do you like uh doing that before you work out because it help it helps me like channel the my anger and rage and [ __ ] that I need to release in there cuz that's right it's like church to me going in there I get to release all that [ __ ] all the hate pretty much you work out by yourself yeah yeah I like doing that too yeah I used to work I was working out with a trainer which I really enjoyed too but there was a thing that was missing it was like the AL time yeah the alone with the just the struggle I need it I need that alone time and that's why you know when you talk about getting in a c tub or doing a tough workout like how many times I do I'll do 20 rounds of something right so of of a circuit and it's never heavyweight anymore it's all just a circuit so I'll do like six rows on the on or six cows on the rower and then I'll jump from go from the rower straight over to like do gorilla rows with kettle bells right so you're like keeping a flat back and working on your transverse core and then I'll grab a big heavy kettle bell and swing that that six times and then I'll do Halos with a kettle bell six aside and then I'll get down and do six push-ups and then go up and knock the tick off like that's one right so okay so and I'll look and be like I got 19 more whoa the whole time you want to quit because your heart rate's at like 150 to 155 the entire time from the rower because you have to you want to do it as short as you know all power you know just and when I pull that rower dude I'm pulling like 2,000 every time it's like 2,000 every time I pull CU I pull that [ __ ] hard as [ __ ] you know it feels like it's going to break sometimes so I and I just get in this mode with the shrooms like I just
get in it's I call it the Flow State and you've probably heard about the Flow State before it helps me and that's what it did for me in the football on the football field it helped me get into doing it in football 200 200 16 the year we won the Super Bowl the year I got [ __ ] life-changing generational wealth money imagine that right yeah imagine that the year I decided that um I met my wife and my [ __ ] life changed forever for the better like I stop think mushrooms was involved in all that I know it was it helped me think clearly and make decisions with confidence when did you start using it did you start using it in training or did you start I started with training well I started I had a body worker um his name is Adam stur and this [ __ ] dude is like he is a [ __ ] mad scientist and he would like get me he would he had like a whole protocol that he did with me so we would do a Monday stretch and and and movement it's all movement it's not stretching it's just he's manipulating your body and we started you know using shrooms and like before he would Prime me up he'd do like a 20-minute prime before I'd go to the stadium and get me primed and dude I'd [ __ ] be vibrating it was wild he did all this like breathing exercises with me like to get me to get me going he works with a bunch of guys still in the league like Von Von Miller works with him it was a bunch of guys and dude he [ __ ] was like he's like maybe try the micro doing try it you know and I was like okay so I found some good [ __ ] and started trying it it was actually liquid form the [ __ ] I was doing I was playing yeah and I had this and he made a pre-workout for me it was all clean and it was like sustainable and I'd [ __ ] drop two little drops to that [ __ ] shrooms in that shake it up before the game and drink it and I'd go out there and warm up on a field and I'd be like on a whole different planet like I I would like I would start to get [ __ ] mad and start getting ready and like dude by the time the [ __ ] by the time I get my hand in the [ __ ] dirt and we're about to play the first snap of football I just like I'm so [ __ ] ready to go it was I can't I can't even explain to people like my focus is so
hyperfocused and everything is so slow around me that I'm moving faster than everything else I'm just moving faster so like i' [ __ ] worked I'm like working like I can like watch his hands it's like the Spider-Man movie when he's like you know like I'd watch his hands [ __ ] go by and then I swim over and I'm keeping it so tight to his shoulder as I swim over and like [ __ ] cut the space and then like accelerate this way and and when you tackle quarterbacks you can't land on him anymore so like when i' get to the quarterback I'd be able to like Focus the on keeping the ball from getting up here so he could throw it you know like I'd be able to lock it in with my elbow and like [ __ ] roll back and fall the perfect way it was like and then and then you watch it on film and it's like snap of a finger it happens right like a football play is 6 seconds long and that's a long football play quarterback is Tom Brady is stepping back and going one two three so in one two three I've got there and all this [ __ ] has happened and in my head while it was happening for me it was slow it was all slow like hips were moving right the way my like I could feel my you I could feel the way my foot hit to make sure it was hit because you want your toes pointed in the direction you're going right so I would [ __ ] work the move you know I used to call it a chop swim so I would chop his hands grab his shoulder pull pin his shoulder down like this and then swim over and before he could like readjust I'd have to cut that corner so it happened so slow to me H to me it was like it took a minute for it to happen but it was like snap of a finger wow and the whole game would go that way but like I also had this crazy like rage going on in my head the whole time think that's Viking [ __ ] it has to be has to be it felt so it felt so natural to be in that state like all your ancestors probably did and the V vience like being able to play violently like finishing the play like finishing through a [ __ ] not just like grabbing him and T no I was trying to finish through [ __ ] and it like was just in me to do that when from the time I stepped on the football field at 7 years old put a [ __ ] helmet on number 59 with a [ __ ] bar down the middle he put me a middle linebacker and a coach said when you see the ball you
get the ball I said all right [ __ ] Bobby bed that [ __ ] [ __ ] let's go I loved it dude I love I hit this [ __ ] kid and I know I he probably never played football again the kid I hit wow he probably said [ __ ] this this ain't for me cuz I [ __ ] the first picture I take I'm [ __ ] like couldn't wait to play football like I finally get to be violent not get in trouble you know yeah cuz the violence was just in me like yeah I don't think it like you could talk about the childhood and this and that like it created this violent [ __ ] person whatever no I was violent when I came out of the [ __ ] womb my mom said it took three people to change my [ __ ] diaper she [ __ ] had to and to have one person [ __ ] hold your arms and one person hold your legs and then somebody get to change you wow cuz you were so [ __ ] strong she's like you're so strong and just like thought it was hilarious to like knock somebody over you know that's hilarious and like [ __ ] knowing that they couldn't hold me down was just funny to me I guess as a kid but that's just how the mushroom Viking connection is wild cuz if that really is true if that just ignites that part of you that ancient DNA it completely makes sense because that was the lore of the Vikings that they always took mushrooms when they raided it brings out it would I'm I swear to you it brings out this crazy like I call it the Savage it's like releasing The Savage you know like I finally get to open the the lion gets out of the cage [ __ ] once a week you know how did you decide on like how much to take or when to take it did you do a lot there was games where I took a little too much what happened oh dude the lights are so bright at a on a night game [ __ ] wow [ __ ] lights are bright there's [ __ ] like going to Dallas one time we were in Dallas playing and I took a little too much and when you're walking out on the field you're walking through a bar pretty much you walk imagine walking through like I'm going to [ __ ] War but I'm walking through a bar and all these [ __ ] fans are like having drinks and hanging out and I'm like I'll kill all of you like that's
what I'm thinking the whole way out of there I would kill you all I'll [ __ ] murder every one of you like that's crazy [ __ ] going through my head before a game though cuz it's what I'm doing well it's probably your body thinks you're going to a war yeah like I think when you do something like that and that many people are watching and you're on mushrooms and you have that Viking DNA your body probably like oh it's war time oh war time kill time yeah time to kill rap rape and pillage time Jesus like that's in my DNA you know and and we get out there on the field and I'm like oh [ __ ] like you know then you know when you started like whenever because it's a wave you take like an e right you're waving you're riding those waves dude I'm standing there and they're like announcing the [ __ ] the announcers like getting ready to announce this to come out and I'm like and normally I can like get it to stop and just like settle settle into that breath but no I just was like and then finally I was like okay okay I got to [ __ ] get it together dude and when we walked out there we just came running out I almost had to stop because it was so mesmerizing I was like my mouth is wide open I'm [ __ ] St I'm like dude I got to play I'm going to play football stop looking at the [ __ ] Jumbotron this thing's [ __ ] huge these jumbotrons are huge there's [ __ ] the girls dancing on poles and [ __ ] like there's [ __ ] crazyer smoke everywhere and I'm like holy [ __ ] and then um the first quarter was [ __ ] interesting very interesting I was playing really well but I was like not there like I had to hear the play twice sometimes you know what I mean like he'd say the play right to my face and I'd be like what what' you say I'd look at him like what and my middle linebacker's like dude what the [ __ ] is wrong with you I'm like I took too much like he's like all right I got you I got you you know cuz we're [ __ ] buddies he knows what the [ __ ] is going how long did it take before it leveled out second quarter it started to level out and then it turned into like dude we I was [ __ ] dominating it was like I I was like all right that's how much I need to take I need to take half of that half of
that and I'm good I figured that's why in my head I thought half right so that's what I do instead of doing like three I was doing four of those drops so I did two I changed it to two did you ever get it to the point where you knew you could take it again in the middle of the game oh I did I did I would take it at halftime too oh you took it at half time yeah that's two drops per half yeah okay yeah and then and then it was like you said it like of course I did yeah of course cuz I would make that little make tell you the drink I'd [ __ ] make the drink you know I was just I caught it the Special Sauce so you so the full experience of when you like height in the zone like seeing everything in slow motion how long would that last for sometimes that's why I to take it at halftime because it was like a 2our deal right hours B yeah and there's so many [ __ ] TV timeouts and [ __ ] going on time where you're not on the field so like being able to just get a little little dose that keep me in this in the keep the Savage out there wow like it was and I I prided myself as being a great run stopper in the NFL like I knew that like if you ran a ball at me it was not your day like it was going to be I was a number one run stopper for almost 10 years you know like nine years straight as a number one guy in the league so that like I took that to me that's like one of the best compliments ever like [ __ ] those S I don't care about the [ __ ] quarterback I want to [ __ ] I was a man out there too too I was splitting double teams and then tackling Derrick Henry for a loss like that's the [ __ ] we're doing you know and that [ __ ] is a load like he's [ __ ] built like a defensive end dude he's like 6'4 63 240 pounds there no weight weight class limits in the UFC because there is it's 265 that's the heavyweight Division and the money in the UFC was way more like it was more than any NFL player could make and they all decided to start fighting it be it would be a blood bath I don't think people understand the level of athlete you're dealing with when you're talking about the elite NFL players when you're around them be like what the [ __ ] are you it's a totally different type of person it's like a whole different human yeah and there's enough of them and if they decided to fight it would be a real
problem for regular siiz big dudes oh yeah well like I mean 265 if I I if I cut to 265 yeah I mean five minute I could go [ __ ] all day yeah I could go all [ __ ] day because I'm used to carrying you know Twi you know 20 30 pounds more than that yeah a lot of like Francis who's probably the biggest guy in the heavyweight division Francis andano was regularly over 300 lb or in the range of 300 lb like he was when he got his knee operated on and he's not fat he's [ __ ] gigantic no he's built like a [ __ ] yeah yeah he's built like a perfect fighter he's exact if you were going to build a perfect fighter that would be it tall super muscular but immense natural strength and super athletic he's he's like the if you were to draw up a d end a defensive end outside rusher that's how you draw it up just I know that this is going to be an amazing fight this weekend between Jon Jones and cal gone but man am I disappointed that Francis isn't in there I know Francis versus Jon Jones to me me would have been like holy [ __ ] yeah because you can't do anything wrong with Francis you can't make any mistakes those nuclear weapons are zinging by your chin dude imagine zinging man I always think that's the other thing I think about man I'm like dude these [ __ ] Fighters I became good friends with cowboy with so Donald and I became good friends man I was he's [ __ ] awesome I was talking to him about it and I was like dude like the way you guys [ __ ] have to train just to get ready for a fight yeah is insane it's [ __ ] insane the training is insane most people are like oh I could get in a fight with and do this go out there and [ __ ] just wrestle for 30 seconds and you'll be [ __ ] laying on your back you [ __ ] turd stop acting like you could do this [ __ ] try doing it for five minutes they don't know for 25 I mean I wrestled right so wrestling for in overtime would go to nine minutes with heavyweights a lot and you'd be [ __ ] tired as hell and nobody's trying to kick you nobody's trying to punch you nobody's trying to choke you out have you thought about doing competitive Jiu-Jitsu yeah you would be amazing at that that' be a great thing for you too like to get obsessed with my uh one of my my best Mentor mentors in life he
lives down in South Florida he's a black belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu and he does it every morning and he's like you know he's in his 60s now and he's like 230 pounds like 6 6'2 6'3 he's a big dude um extremely successful but he loves Jiu-Jitsu he does it every morning and I'll go in there and roll with him and he just [ __ ] dominates me dude I can't like because it's not about strength and it's not about speed it's about it's like a chess game mhm it's a just a chess game so like he knows what I'm GNA [ __ ] do long before I even thought about doing it like he already knew what like my B how my body is going to react that to this to this like I'm exhausted and he's just laying there laughing you know like you know [ __ ] idiot you know like I think that'd be a good thing for you to get into I get I'll get on top I'll get on top in like full Mountain he'll like sweep my [ __ ] legs out from under me somehow and like crawl around my like I'm like how the [ __ ] did you get me onto my side already how did I get here and then I next under my arms like up here and he's [ __ ] like he gets your arms in a he gets your body in a position where your strength can't get it out yeah like I can't muscle through any of this [ __ ] so I'm [ __ ] and I I fell in love with doing it so it's uh I'm looking to do I work with you know you know Chris CI so mosy and I are good friends um isn't he fighting bare knuckle fights now yes psycho dude they're doing a big bare knuckle call have you seen this Luke rockold is fighting Mike Perry I'm like holy [ __ ] and Chad who's Chad Mendes fighting he's fighting someone really good too P pull it up it's on my Instagram no it's not it's on Luke rockhold's Instagram it's a wild wild card it's like they're getting like real MMA stars like Luke rockhold's a star like having Luke rockold Chad Chad's a star this dude's that's right he's fighting Eddie Alvarez that's right that's crazy that's a crazy fight also Ben Rothwell but Mike Perry and Luke rockhold that is a wild F wonder I wonder what the money's like in these fights must be giving them big money because Luke rockhold makes a lot of money in the UFC but he said it was way more than he made in the UFC so I assume
Luke rockold makes a lot of money in the UFC I shouldn't say that I don't know how much he actually gets paid I'm sure it's a he was the champion yeah you know at one point in time I mean Luke rockold in his was a [ __ ] man he was [ __ ] good he's fun to watch too it's kind of interesting see Francis commented on he'd be this oh my god well I know they've given uh they've they've given conversations to him or they've had conversations with him I should say so has Bellator so has uh a lot of these plac who would fight him bare Knuckles some person who wants to get punched in the knuckles it's got to be somebody if they come up with enough money there's dudes out there that would do it that I mean d fighting bare knuckle your face is g to get [ __ ] up like your face gets [ __ ] up they have gnarly cuts a lot of these guys they scars and [ __ ] all over their [ __ ] all over their face you you're getting cut a lot it's just that bow but my thought was like that's how MMA should be MMA really shouldn't have gloves on I think so too I was like you you really have you have a false sense of confidence of what you could do with your fists cuz this is not really designed for punching things designed for grabbing things grabbing yeah elbows are way better for striking and knees and kicks are way better for striking but your hands break so easy but when you wrap them up in gloves and then put a foam pad over then you could throw a out there [ __ ] it's weird because it's the only thing in your whole weapons Arsenal that you're you're allowed to cover up with padding and make more effective you you don't do that with your elbows you don't do that with your knees more sense to do with your elbows like if you're going to try to protect somebody yeah but that that's the ring your hands and everything that's to protect your own fist it protects your own fist but it does allow you to hit harder too because you could be more indiscriminate with your punches I think these didn't the cage fighting start without they started without him and then zero weight classes too yep that was [ __ ] wild you got the clip of the little dude with the [ __ ] giant one of the first fights that they had I don't think was it ho who did he fight it wasn't a guy in a ghee though no there's there was a lot of those
mismatches in terms of sizewise was Keith Hackney he fought uh Emanuel yarro Emanuel Yaro was a sumo wrestler who was like [ __ ] 350 400 lb I mean how big is manual yeah 200 ver 600 but I don't know 600 well they they lied a little bit but Keith was probably about 200 so Keith acne is a I believe he's a karate guy that's him and he came out that's Keith acne and the size difference is [ __ ] crazy when you see it when they're actually going after each other so Emanuel yarro is walking towards them look how small Keith acne is yeah he's so much smaller but he hit him with like basically like a [ __ ] slap poow oh [ __ ] it's crazy I mean imagine that guy being on top of you that's a big slip up right there yeah he [ __ ] up so he get he gets back up to his feet and he cracks him again and again you don't want to lose to a guy that's that much smaller than you but how much time can Emanuel do this through the cage right through the cage see but Manuel's already exhausted to be that that fat I mean he's so overweight there's no way he can maintain where this is wild Keith Hackney just has to kind of survive past that first 30 seconds I mean I don't even know what kind of training Emanuel did for this he might have just he was a he was a sumo guy he's just walking him down he's chewing gum yeah it does look like he's chewing gum oh you see him trying to hit him me he's chewing gum yeah look he's Che is that his mouthpiece or is it gum he's chewing gum it seems like gum it's the smallest mouth piece of all time Keith hack had another fight where uh he fought this guy joean and Joe son got him in a headlock and Keith Hackney punched him in the balls over and over again oh he drops him with the punches that's it that is crazy it's crazy to watch that's why I mean there's a reason why he's hitting him with his fist like that because it hurts to [ __ ] punch somebody in the head yeah I mean he's breaking his hand for sure here if not for sure it's definitely a high probability like that those punches he's doing like Ridge hands like see he just looked at his hand like holy [ __ ] I don't know if they stopped her if they kept yeah they stopped it Jesus the early days dude he's just standing there [ __ ] whacking him
really should have kicked him but the early days those days were just it was a different world like no one knew what worked or what didn't work it was all just like people had these crazy ideas about Kung Fu and death touches and all that [ __ ] went out the window death touch yeah there's some people that still believe in that man if you go to uh MCD Dojo uh.com MCD Dojo on uh Instagram he's always got these people on that are like doing fake martial arts and death touch and people fall down that's the dumbest [ __ ] so people still believe in it which is wild so what is this guy doing just touches him on his neck and the guy falls over see this seems like they might be playing there's no [ __ ] way that that's real come on dude yeah I think some of them it's people just [ __ ] around but some of them are like this like these guys are just they're just delusional like this guy really believes that this would work look he just steps to the side so easy like the other guy just is frozen look at this it's hilarious he chopped him in a little B he gave him a little lumbar chop you know the old lumbar chop it's a deadly move he put his hand in his face oh dude this is up until 1993 there those people were everywhere no one knew what was real and what was fake I mean they do it at churches yeah right speaking tongues and yeah you see the guy that says he's not gay anymore have you seen that one H I'm not gay no more I don't like men's no more delivered starts dancing and then all these guys like dance with them they all it's like it's so homoerotic so strange the whole thing is so strange G conversion is so the strange thing and they like throw their [ __ ] their suit coat over somebody like a whole crowd of people fall over and like what are you guys doing those people that speak in tongues I always wonder like are they Faking It are they just like just like in a trance like what is that I always wonder like some of them are faking it for sure just like with the past past live regressions are F people are so easily manipulated man like I mean my if my three-year-old can
[ __ ] manipulate me and my three-year-old daughter manipulates me all the time like I I'm like well I guess she can't go to school she has a tummy ache yeah cuz like Daddy my tummy hurts I can't go to school today I'm like okay whatever you need yeah my kids always my wife's like don't fall for it they always go to me I'm the softy yeah me too I my wife's like she's always telling me she's like I'm like what's the big difference one day stay home no make them go no make go go to school tough them up Jesus I got I'm a girl you're a girl Dad too you know what it's like to have girls so like I have a teenage daughter and then I have a three-year-old so it's like I have like the teenager is like this Super Genius like 4.2 GPA honor student in all college prep classes wow right and then Roxy is like this crazy roxxy's my youngest Tatum's the oldest and Roxy is like this crazy athlete already that wants to hunt with that she wants to hunt so bad so I take her at three years old I take her out into the elk Woods wow and I'll get her up close to like 20 30 yards from an elk whoa and we'll sneak up on them that's awesome she's like figuring out already how to like maneuver through the woods and how to look at tracks like but to her every track is a bear track now like we're up there right you got think we're at 10,400 feet there's [ __ ] black bear and Bob Cats and mountain lions and [ __ ] everywhere like we found a mountain lion kill and I told her about that and she's like now she won't walk through the woods without a stick because she she thinks that stick's going to protect her from the mountain but I have a pistol on my [ __ ] hip you know like we don't walk around up there without a gun no I wouldn't imagine you these [ __ ] giant lions and bears running around you just walk up into the wrong walk turn turn the wrong Corner out there and you [ __ ] come across the mom a a s her Cubs she'll [ __ ] kill you you know yeah not good and I keep I make sure she stand Roxy is always standing like right in front of me like I'm so walk or she's W like I'm walking right here so nothing can get to her without me seeing it or hitting me first you know right so she can get away if she has to that's a wild
experience for a little girl she loves it that's awesome she loves I'm like you want to go on a hike yeah she's like should she always I have she has like a little bow and I'm like she's like should she's like should I bring my bow and I'm like sure bring your [ __ ] bow whatever that's awesome you know it's not going to kill anything but we'll but she's into it like she really wants to and at night when I tell my wife says she's doing it because she's manipulating me to stay up longer but she'll like I'll I'll read her I read her five books a night I read her five books and then sing her songs and then tell her and she wants to hear stories about hunting so she wants to hear my hunting stories she like tell me about she'll be like tell me about the wild cat and I'll tell her like in detail not like this you know the sick details but like I'll end it with a and then Daddy got up on the hill and I pulled my bow back and whack and then she starts laughing loves it wow like she's like yeah she's like all right tell me about the elk tell me about the bear wow tell me about the deer you know she wants to hear them all tell me about when you played football she'll say tell me about when you played football so she wants to hear like what I did in football and I'm like well I tackled people she's like why I'm like cuz they had the football and she's like oh but she's like so crazy Advanced that at that age already as far as like doing math right doing Simple Math already get three years old like blows my mind it's hard to tell people that don't have children what it's like it's a very strange feeling the love that you have for those people little people it's it's it's transformative Dave Chappelle once said to me he goes it didn't just change how much love I have he goes it changed my capacity for love yeah yeah it's a great way to put it it is yeah it's changing thing just like like for me it was that unconditional that unconditional love man it was just yeah and for you with your insane background in your childhood to be able to provide a great background for your kids it's important to me yeah it's it's a beautiful thing man it's a beautiful thing and that's the I was like I said the best decision I ever made in my life was marrying who I married I married
right I did it did it the right way and it's the way we met you would think it's going to fail for sure I was [ __ ] we just won a Super Bowl and I go to Vegas and I'm [ __ ] on a bender I'm on a [ __ ] Bender like doing [ __ ] I shouldn't be doing and walk into this [ __ ] club to nightclub you know I you know you know to the restaurant everything so she was our our waitress for the [ __ ] table service cuz we ate dinner and then we walked in there and I was [ __ ] you know I got a [ __ ] thousand or $100,000 [ __ ] chain on $100,000 [ __ ] otomar bust down AP on my wrist look at like a [ __ ] kid that's what she said she was like he looks like Kid Rock she's like I walk in there and I I look I'm carrying a bottle of Don jolio 1942 [ __ ] drinking straight out of the bottle and walking in there [ __ ] got I got a big bracelet crazy [ __ ] diamond bracelet on you know [ __ ] stupid stupid dumb waste of money like an idiot what is the first dumb thing you bought the first dumb thing I bought ah like right when you get signed right right when I signed my big contracts yeah yeah I bought $300 $300,000 wor of jewelry like an idiot that I can never get the money back for it's just [ __ ] dead I had to make 600 to to do that I had to make 600,000 to pay for that 300 so I [ __ ] got $600,000 wor a jewelry I'll never get the money out is that a standard thing among uh guys in the NFL I I play defensive line and a white guy on the defense line is usually not like it's not normal right so like that's just the culture I was in so I thought it was [ __ ] I was always I my whole life I spent trying to just fit in where I could you know mhm and like it wasn't until I like retired I was able to find out who I really was you know like who am I really because I've my whole life I've been trying to fake it cuz I didn't want to be that I've been trying to be somebody somebody else trying to discover this other person because I didn't want to be who you were who I was which was poor white trash right so I've been trying to run from that so I've almost embraced that that white trash side of me you know you don't know how it's important it's so important for a guy like you to tell this story cuz
there's got to be some k listening somewhere that's living a similar life and realiz there's a way out of this tunnel dude my hometown is right next door to East Palestine whoa that's my home those are my people holy [ __ ] that's where I grew up was right there East Palestine was [ __ ] right there it's not like I'm not talking about like 20 minutes away I'm talking about like five minutes away are you talking to people from there yeah so before Trump went there actually um I was I had I was trying to do something to get water to them and then I found out Trump was going to give them water I was like all right I'll just cool you know I don't need the [ __ ] Spotlight he can have it you know but it is that's my those are my people what is it they can't [ __ ] they're [ __ ] coughing up blood they for a while they had zero drinking water for a while for like a couple weeks you know it was and they can't get out of there most of those people are poor dude the average income is like 15,000 a year 16,000 a year everybody's poor that I mean everybody was Steel Workers they the steel mills closed down all the factories closed down Lordstown was a big Factory there there's a big uh so now there there are power plants so there's three power plants down there too so that's [ __ ] might be another reason why I'm so [ __ ] just drinking power plant water Ohio River swimming in the Ohio river and there's [ __ ] catfish the size of cars in there like oh that's normal I guess I'll jump in here yeah it's like [ __ ] you know it's just crazy you know like my mom will tell me stories about like when I was a baby that she would use uh she's like I used to I used to take rum and rub it on your gums that that's how I [ __ ] got you to settle down I'm like Jesus Christ what she's I mean I've heard of people doing that to their kids before back in the day yeah but like not now like now from from the 19 we knew in the90s we knew in the [ __ ] 90s you shouldn't give you shouldn't even be smoking when you're pregnant she's [ __ ] doing blow [ __ ] drinking man came out all right yeah Jesus Christ he came out more than all right and I I really do I really think it's so
important the way you you're so honest and you tell your story because there's people out there that need to hear that man they there's people that think they're [ __ ] and they're always going to be [ __ ] well sometimes I get um I get nervous to talk about it because it makes people uncomfortable but [ __ ] them like I'm here I'm not here to like it's not for them yeah it's not if it makes you uncomfortable for you then just don't listen to it because but I'm not going to I'm not going to I'm not going to take I'm going to take the opportunity to tell my story because there's going to be a kid watching this and there's gonna be a kid that listens to this podcast and he's goingon to be like you know what man I can [ __ ] do it right and that might save his life because you know what when I was [ __ ] 10 11 years old I used to [ __ ] I put shotguns in my mouth because I wanted to end my life I wanted to [ __ ] be done I was like this is [ __ ] miserable existence I hate it I just wanted to end it but I didn't and I kept [ __ ] going and I kept pushing get to the next day get to the next day survive and then you survive long enough and then you can learn how to thrive and then once you start thriving in life everything's [ __ ] different everything and I didn't realize that until my wife came in my life she was like why are you so [ __ ] negative all the time and I was like because I expect the worst to happen that is what I'm used to the worst that can happen is probably going to happen like oh I'm going to make it to the NFL and then I'm gonna get [ __ ] paralyzed and almost die and almost ruin my career before I even get started but no that's not the way to look at thing things and she changed that for me you know I had [ __ ] when she came into my life I had [ __ ] people taking advantage of me my best friends people I thought were my family taking [ __ ] advantage of me dude forging checks doing all kinds of other [ __ ] I never actually lost the money but it I was able to recover it but you lost the friendships but I lost all those friendships all of them everybody and they were all [ __ ] they were all like why would you [ __ ] marry this girl from Vegas like making a big deal about it and I was like cuz
she's on to your [ __ ] that's why you [ __ ] don't want her here wow she's on your ACH people being parasites and glom dude she she saved my life probably it was only a matter of time cuz guess what I would have been [ __ ] did my life could have turned out so much different so many different times like that's why life is all about making the right choice at the right time like there's going to come like if it feels like it's a big important decision in your life take it serious and make it make a rational decision don't just make an emotional decision in that moment like think about it before you [ __ ] do anything there's a lot of times in my life where I like I I didn't think about it and I just did it and I [ __ ] paid the price like [ __ ] paid the price and luckily I luckily I ended up on top but like and I'm still climbing you know I'm still [ __ ] going you're still you're still a young guy I'm I'm just really glad that you uh explain your story the way you do man it's uh it's really important and to see you come out of this and Thrive it's it's beautiful really is yeah I I just these kids are D these kids got soci social media now can you imagine growing up with that [ __ ] I can't imagine they it's a totally new kind of even having a cell phone right I didn't get a cell phone till I got to college like it's yeah I can't imagine what that's like yeah like my dog when we were kids think about when we were kids you want to hang out with the kids in in the neighborhood you just [ __ ] went to their house yep and knocked on the door and door knocked until one of them was [ __ ] home or was allowed to come play nowadays they got a [ __ ] text message each other and well I don't know I don't want to text too much and be weird I'm like what the [ __ ] I used to [ __ ] stalker call somebody's house till they answered it [ __ ] ring ring all day long and hey can Johnny come play no qu calling it's interesting that you grew up that way that all all of us grew up that way and then kids today will never understand that they'll never know that I lived on I was that's I would like go to my their house and just like ask if I could spend I knew I didn't I like I didn't want to go home because it was I knew it was going to happen there so I would just like go to
go from friend I'd be gone for like a month wow just staying from house to house and sleeping on couches and [ __ ] just because and just making it seem like I was you know because you know cuz I knew that I was going to get fed I knew that I was going to um not get [ __ ] beat up you know I knew that I was going to have a shower like all that stuff was important to me like I was like I want to and then I'd go to school you know my mom taught me how to [ __ ] I'm about to admit to stealing I used to steal my clothes to go for school like that's how I she taught me how to do that wow like wear a bigger shirt put a [ __ ] smaller shirt underneath of it oh that that fits you and then [ __ ] walk out and I'd be like okay she told me how to do that at a young age you know but that's just like that's what she grew up around that was [ __ ] that was it man it's that tri-state area that West Virginia Pennsylvania Ohio where it all meets yeah it's a [ __ ] up place it is a [ __ ] up place it's it's the heroin [ __ ] highway mhm like everybody's on heroin now not everybody you know just oxyon Express y yeah now fentanyl moves in it's [ __ ] up place man well Derek we just did three hours believe it or not I go for another three that was a lot of fun that was fun man it was really fun and and thank you again and I really do appreciate the way you tell your story because I I really do think it's important and I I know there's guys out here all kinds of people out there that listen to that and realize like it's possible it's possible to get through the lowest points and come have an awesome life yeah there's always a I always see it as the it's the coward's way out you don't want to [ __ ] keep going so you just give up you know and I'm not going to give up never will it's not in my it's not in me I don't know what that feels like anymore good for you and for everybody who's listening listen to what he's saying there's there's there's a way out of everything always you you can have a better life all right thanks brother appreciate you man it was a lot of fun bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]