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[Music] so uh first of all thanks for being here appreciate it great to see you again thanks for having me yeah my pleasure i watched idiocracy this morning oh boy dude it [ __ ] holds up it holds doesn't it oh my god it's funny i never saw the whole thing before it was one of those movies that i just for whatever reason i just never saw the whole thing it was just well it kind of yeah i didn't have much of a release so it didn't no it they it was um i mean to be fair like it was a weird movie it was hard to market it's a funny [ __ ] movie man it's funny i mean i i watched it in the gym while i was working out i was cracking up oh nice to hear it was really good it was like surprisingly funny there was some great stuff about it when when it's just the very smart couple that's holding off and having children and the dumb people keep [ __ ] yeah that was uh i feel like i really made the whole movie just to make that sequence that was one of those rare times patrick and uh darlene the two actors that it's the only time i think this has ever happened they i think they were auditioning them in pairs and they auditioned and i kind of looked at like two or three more people and then said okay let's just cast them it's perfect that guy was so good patrick fisher yeah it was such a good movie man it's just like thanks and it's so interesting like looking at the world in 2022 it's like the only thing you missed was social media yeah i mean i i keep thinking about all the stuff i missed i i yeah i feel that movie was i feel like it was cursed to begin with um everything that went wrong went wrong everything that could go wrong went wrong like and it was so many things like we shot it here in austin it's supposed to take place in a drought and it was like the rainiest summer we had to keep killing grass which feels really awful to do oh god but but we um how do you do that

oh yeah you put like a giant piece of like tarp cardboard over it for like two nights or something but then sometimes i have to put gasoline on it or something it just feels horrible to kill grass um yeah i don't know and then i feel like the curse of the movie kind of just spread out into the world or something but uh one i was just thinking about this because i can't i have a hard time watching it because it just brings back so many stressful memories but um because it was difficult to make yeah just we were you know barely had an impossible schedule and and then in post you know they they just cut we had a bad test screening and they just cut the effects budget down and but i mean you know they did pay for the movie to get made so i appreciate it but um yeah i was just thinking that so there was the wardrobe uh woman whatever i don't know what what do you costume designers the official title she you know she had a limited budget also and for the shoes so this we shot in 2004 she goes she tells me okay there's a startup and it was crocs but they weren't out in the world yet but it was a small company and she goes look at these are these horrible plastic shoes so we could really save a lot of money just put everyone in these things and then i said well what if but what if by the time the movie comes out what if everyone's what if these become popular people are wearing them she said oh these are never going to become popular no one would ever wear these things are horrible and then yeah there you go and then but then it took two years for the movie to come out then everyone's but then people going like oh that's pretty funny that you put everyone in crocs they did kind of become popular right yeah and then they're they're not around much anymore but they they were really popular they're really popular right now they came back they came back in the last two years all of a sudden what do you mean who's wearing them uh right

post malone how to like uh deal with them i think justin bieber did too people are putting like pins on them and stuff they're very popular right now pins yeah like little they're like little like pins yeah oh like shirt pins yeah yeah yeah yeah i should stop talking i know people wear them a lot of guys wear them like in camps you bring them to camp like their camp shoes they wear crocs around camp because they're light you know if you're wearing like hiking boots all day and then you're camping you wear crocs at night and then you're going to get around the campfire you get lunch so this is a new thing i've only seen it popping because they were i'd heard they were they were in bankruptcy like five years ago or something maybe i heard wrong wow maybe they were maybe somebody came in with yeah i mean with funding and took a distressed property and i don't get it i don't i was always confused like there's so many options for shoes why would you ever buy those there's all kinds of slippers you could have yeah um there's no need for those i don't get them for camping though like you're gonna get like ticks all over here no i think the idea is like hunters wear them well so like when you're in the woods and you're hiking you're wearing these like very kind of rigid hiking boots and then when you're just around the campfire oh they wear these little crocs okay because they weigh nothing you know they're not okay yeah they are light yeah and they provide you with protection from sticks and [ __ ] okay and then wear them like you know over socks i see so they're horrific looking yeah they don't look good that's why that's why i wanted them in the movie what the [ __ ] is this they're fat there's six hundred dollar crocs these are fashion crocs cut the [ __ ] [ __ ] i thought they were fake those are real they're real six hundred dollar crocs with uh some kind of a heel what does the bottom of that heel look like is it flat

like a peg like a nail looks like a nail is going through that is so strange you know what i don't get this prediction correct what's the story with the strap on the top of the foot sport mode you know directly they all have straps it's like yeah the one thing about us when you need to run and you gotta you need to do some action you're doing [ __ ] those things put around your heel so it doesn't fall off kind of sprinting wait 600 bucks is that how much yeah they're real 600 that's how dumb people are put that in your new movie yeah i know i wish i could remake that what would you do different well like you said i probably probably would have had more staring at phones and stuff i mean i nobody saw that coming though yeah um well there's also right because you filmed it it was released in what 2005 2006 filmed it in 2004 yeah so if you think about like phones back then it was all flip phones yeah they were starting to come out with the nokia um but yeah the iphone i don't think was there it was seven it was a yeah it was about to come out yeah and but and even then like everybody thought that was kind of like a novelty nobody ever thought it would be like a re almost a requirement for life yeah and also i wrote it in two i started writing in 2001 and then uh it's writer eton cohen i wrote a draft with him i wrote an outline and then so that was like 2002 i think or 2003 that we wrote it so it was like pretty far away from all this stuff happening that's the only thing you missed though i mean even like a dumbing down of people nailed yeah i was i was sort of i was thinking of it like so i had i had the idea in the 90s but i remember um when uh in 2001 in the summer um well it was it was the year 2001 i'd seen the movie 2001 again and thought wouldn't that be about that'd have been

funny if that movie instead of everything being pristine advanced civilization it was like giant walmarts and the jerry springer show and like what if what if that movie made in the 70s was actually that accurate and i just kind of thought of a graph of like everything from from whenever that movie was made like 71 to the year that it was 2001. if you just kept that progression going and just like more crass foul language in the mainstream more like just everybody getting dumber and dumber and just advertising everywhere i don't know just it was sort of a i also wrote it i owed fox a screenplay and i pitched two or three different things and they said oh that's the commercial one that's one you should make and i didn't think they would make it i just it was fun to write why didn't you think they would make it it just seemed too weird [Laughter] but you know they saw it you know anything in the future sounds fun and like a big broad comedy um but uh yeah then they it just it was more fun to write than it was to make i mean nothing against anybody involved it was just like a very difficult schedule and a lot of stuff went wrong had 65 speaking parts in it which you don't even when you're writing just oh and then there's this and it's like oh yeah you have to cast every one of those people well it's still funny it's still funny it really really holds up it's excellent oh thanks i remember moving to la in 1994 and i got a i think someone i knew at mtv hooked me up and they gave me a vhs tape of all the beavis and butthead episodes and i didn't have the cable hooked up yet so i was my tv was hooked up but cable wasn't hooked up yet and so i was watching vhs tapes of beavis and butthead and i remember me and this girl that i was dating at the time laughing our [ __ ] ass off i didn't even have furniture i just had a big tv

and we were sitting on the carpeted floor just crying laughing at corn julio oh okay so you got to the good ones then yeah by that season it was we started to find our stride yeah that was that was fun to do that was uh wait were you doing a did you have a gig at mtv or no well i did at one point in time i did uh mtv half hour comedy hour and then i um auditioned for another show at mtv and the negotiations of that actually wound me getting up on a fox show called hardball which got canceled then i got news radio oh okay so that was that was how i moved to l.a but i was still in contact with someone at mtv and they hooked me up yeah i thought i remembered some mtv association with you yeah that was what it was it was like uh they were trying to do a thing with me but mtv was like insanely cheap back then i think they wanted to give me 500 for a pilot and uh if the if the pilot went i would be exclusive to them for several years so like yeah they would own me for several years exclusively for 500 which is hilarious well i think the way dan cortez got out of his deal i don't know this for sure whatever happened to that guy oh i don't know but he but they had a deal with him that actually violated labor laws it was so like it might have been the same thing you're talking about where it's actually might have even been slavery laws highlighted but yeah they were really egregious they just would yeah it was well you know why they did that they did that because they created a few stars that became huge stars and they felt like those stars left and they made these people starts but they didn't profit so like dennis leary was one of them and paulie shore was another one like you know totally got yeah he got away he got away yeah well so he did totally paulie and then totally paulie uh he left that and wound up doing all these big movies and then leary was sort of the same thing you know he did those little snippets where he would like rant to the camera yeah those were really good that was popular and he was on remote control

to remember remote control yeah yeah i remember seeing them on i think comedy set was called the comedy channel it went and then it was about yeah central so i think that was their over correction their over correction from losing guys like paulie shore was to create something where they you know yeah they overcorrected overcorrected on me i forgot about that dan cortese guy yeah that show was great it was tv sports sports yeah he was a huge star for a while yeah what the [ __ ] i don't know what happened to him how does that happen where a guy just is everywhere and then yeah he was like the heartthrob it seems like it yeah he was i don't know when it fell off like 95 or something you just i don't know maybe yeah at some point he just disappeared i don't know i don't know what he does now he's got some great gig yeah maybe how about find him dan cortez i mean i found his instagram yeah he's like he's hanging out where's he at is it cortez with a there he is just seems like a normal guy now hanging out posting old stuff oh bill murray wow yeah remember how you become that guy what was his how you become dan cortez i think he was working like on a set or something like that and then someone had the idea to put him on the show he started acting after that and then i don't know well hope he's having fun yeah but um so how did you guys wind up with beavers and butthead there um so i had i was making these animated shorts in my house and uh just mailing out vhs tapes of them and uh there was a show called liquid television well i had gotten i gotten um i made three shorts before beavis and budded was the fourth one i'd made and the first three had gotten like the first one i made was on the show on comedy it was called the comedy channel

um uh night after night with alan havey uh i remember alan hayward yeah and so and then i'd gotten in some animation festivals and so people were starting there was a show called liquid television on mtv that um was on sunday nights and uh they would license animated shorts so i got i got like three or four of mine on there it all happened very quickly like i had they were gonna they they asked me to send my first three and i said i have a new one and it was beavis and butthead and um and then it so got on that show and then there was a long weird cryptic negotiation where they said they want to buy it and i said what for and like and then i negotiated it was colossal pictures did liquid liquid television and then finally they said it's over oh it was a long ugly thing and then finally mtv came to me directly i still didn't know what they were going to do with it i thought those little station ids or something and i was elated i was like this is amazing i'm just making these things in my house outside of dallas and it's going to be on mtv that's amazing and then i sold it i i sold the whole thing to him for something like eighteen thousand dollars [Laughter] the whole property everything yeah i mean i retained something that you'd never see any money from but i was able to get it back later years later but how did you do that just because they needed me to do it and i just you know but it was yeah i sold it uh but this was after months of negotiating and i'm like well it takes me it would i was animating everything by myself it would take me like six to eight weeks to make two minutes and after two beavis and budded shorts i was kind of out of ideas anyways i thought like okay i'll just this will be my you know admission fee to show business

i'll just sell this off just to meet people and and have them know about me and and i you know after like i went to different lawyers and there like there was a this mob lawyer in dallas it was just like don't sign it i said well then i just don't do this like i mean i don't regret it because i i think they were ready to walk away um it'd been months you know like five or six months which i guess in show business isn't that long of a negotiation all the time but yeah then they and then they flew me up there and then they started talking about we're gonna do 65 episodes and uh i was saying okay am i going to be involved i don't like i did and they said of course it's your baby and you know um but they didn't say any of that until they already owned it they didn't want to maybe it was part of the you know the whole poli shore of it all and those people that had gotten out of there but they did they did their lawyer had all the bad intentions of a good lawyer but she wasn't all that great and didn't know animation so there were some big uh holes in the contract that i was able to exploit yeah exploit later yeah she thought that i was going to be doing the entire all the animation myself so there was like a per minute fee that was like three seasons in my i got like still my manager michael rotenberg is also a lawyer said hey this thing says they owe you a ton of money so yeah we had we were able to i was able to get it back and now i own it like 50 50 with them so okay that was after the movie and they wanted a sequel and all that stuff and so this movie that you got coming out when did this start getting developed um let's see i had the idea for it a long time ago it was really about three years ago and then um

right before the lockdown because it was friday the 13th march 2020. i had lunch with uh the um chris mccarthy and uh kai's hill edgar the paramount plus guys and and just sealed the deal right then and then made the entire movie with everyone on zoom and evercast so when you pitch a movie like a beavis and butted movie are you pitching uh are you just saying look i want to do a bavis and butter movie are you saying this is what happens with peterson butthead like what's the process well with this one with the sequel they've been wanting a sequel for years and i've pitched different usually when did you make the first one first one came out in 96. so it was like a couple years was it like so the show the short first aired on in 92 the series started in march of 93 so the show had been on a while before the movie came out like three years they wanted it sooner and when they stopped when you stopped doing the the television show um fall of 98. oh wow so so it was off for a while but yeah i just i i usually write an outline uh i think that's i pitched i don't think i pitched either of them um i think i just started writing outlines for well for the first one and for this one too then there was almost a sequel in 90. i mean sorry in 2001 and then they violated another contract with me and i got really pissed and said no movie and jesus yeah they're they're i mean they're now i don't know what i don't know what mtv even is and they've sort of been disturbed yeah the beginning of the movie they have a whole thing with the astronaut and the flag really yeah so mtv is now mostly that like rob dry deck show right that's basically

the whole channel oh it's i don't even like every now and then a show comes along that's a hit like it was like after beavis i don't know it was like tom green and jackass yeah and jersey shore like there's always a show that jackass started at mtv yeah no [ __ ] yeah that was uh wow came along and saved them for a while of course tom green um what was the well jersey shore was was huge was that mtv2 yeah really wow yeah so they [ __ ] gave up on music videos completely that's what it used to be it was the music video channel we would go there to watch do you remember when they released michael jackson's thriller and it was like the release of a movie like everybody watched it i want to know like how many people watched michael jackson's thriller the day it came out because i want to say i was in high school at the time it was somewhere around that range and it was a thing that everybody was talking about like you have to watch huge and it was i remember um i remember being at an amusement park and seeing a guy who's just dressed up as a and had the hair of michael jackson and girls screaming even knowing it wasn't michael jackson just the way he looked yeah yeah just that a guy looked like that but he i mean well you had to have cable to watch it right for i don't think yeah they wouldn't and then he they played it on regular tv eventually but it was so huge i mean it was so huge it's hard to imagine we're going over someone's house to watch it yeah because it wasn't that many channels back then yeah so like when something was on that was like a big deal everybody watched it so like a good hit television show today i don't know how many millions of views it gets but it's not i don't i don't know it used to be yeah the numbers are way down yeah the um when you had a network hit show you'd get like 10 to 20 million oh yeah yeah big show like seinfeld or something like

that yeah i'm sure friends yeah those they got [ __ ] tons of people watching them which that just doesn't happen anymore now it has to be like the super bowl for something like that now yeah there was a while where american idol i think was getting those numbers but i don't think i don't think anything any scripted show does but that was a big thing for mtv was these videos that they would have and they would have video premieres so they'd have a premiere you know like david bowie video premiere and everybody be like oh got to be there for the premiere and there was no dvrs back then either so either you vcr'd it either you recorded it which most people didn't if you're a real wizard you knew how to program your vcr remember those days yeah i briefly knew how to do that but uh sometimes i just get a really long one and just leave it turning right yeah you would do that right yeah you do low resolution like a six hours if you unplugged them the clock would go off and you have to reset it yep everybody's clock was always flashing you go over people's houses the clock in the vcr was always flashing that was one of the gags i wanted to have in idiocracy i don't think we did was just it everywhere you see just 12 like i think i wanted a big clock tower like big bend with just a 12. i don't know if i i haven't even looked if that's even in there i don't think it is when you uh when you make a movie like that and and you're done like what is the feeling like is it is it like did we do enough is it what you wanted because i've got to imagine like vision and then execution and then when it's over like what does it feel like it's a very strange mixed feeling it's it's like you know like the the first one i did was a beavis and buddha movie and i i remember uh it's when your whole life like however many hours a day is just [ __ ] with it and editing it and yeah making in the

sound mix and everything and i think the last final thing was the final mix and i remember walking out of that place just i should feel happy it's finally done but it just said like icky like oh [ __ ] i've missed something or it's a really weird feeling and sometimes it's sometimes it's better than others um sometimes it's sick to your stomach but uh yeah it's always it's always uh you want that's the other reason i think i don't always like to watch something after it's done because i'm going to go oh [ __ ] i should have changed that yeah i've done that better um but yeah it's a very odd feeling i mean it's good to be done but so many it's just like icky which it seems like it's such an enormous amount of time of your life gets put into it and it's got to be hard to see what it actually looks like because you're going over the minutia of it you're editing it you're you're con you wrote the lines you edited them yeah you watch people do it cut let's take two you take three yeah you've seen you've seen 100 people audition for each part you've heard the dialogue over and over again you don't know if it's funny anymore you can't tell you can't and and also your all those hours you're spending on it are to change things that's all you're just constantly tweaking and right and so to to say it's done you get a it's a it's what it is it's like a feeling of withdrawal really like it's sort of uh even if you're really happy with it it's like it's sort of like you're just so used to doing that and to stop suddenly is just you kind of want to do it more you just want to go back and keep editing i mean i like editing and it's fun to do um but yeah but finishing editing is the hard part yeah when you're to just let it go and you know not know if if you have a good test screening that helps but you don't always do that like with a tv show you don't it's just like whoever's in the room if this yeah if the sound mixers don't think it's funny if people working on it

aren't laughing and with animation like especially when i was doing the shorts like the first short i did i record you record the sound first and i remember thinking okay that's a pretty funny take i think i got it something good here and then but then you have to the way i read the track you'd get with a stopwatch you'd find every syllable and put it on exposure sheets so you're listening to it about two or three times as many syllables as there are in it just before you even start drawing and so you by the time you're done you have no idea if it's funny or you know i would just have to keep remembering there was a time when i knew this was funny and just keep going back to that do you ever like like take a few days off and then try to watch it fresh yeah yeah that helps if you can if you can afford to do that yeah i've i've gotten more used to um i don't know just trusting what if there was ever a moment where something was good interesting or funny and if it doesn't seem like it now just knowing okay that that was that did hit me that way at one point there must be something to it dude i laughed so hard today watching the the chart of the people and all the babies that they had for whatever reason that scene killed me and then they keep the smash cut to the intelligent people that still weren't having kids and still putting them on they start bickering about whose fault it is as they're getting older yeah we can't have a trial now not with the market the way it is yeah it's amazing it's so funny because that that's real you know elon musk warns about that all the time he's like we are in a very dangerous moment where people don't realize that they're not having enough children i don't know now it's now it's sort of i mean um there's melinda gates had written something about this like or maybe i read a quote about like when as countries become go from third world to first world i guess they stop they don't have kids as much well women

have careers and they don't want to have children as as often and they also don't need children to help them with the family business so that's not like in some some countries people are having children because they need a workforce yeah yeah i had we were at some point making that movie i i mean a lot of the people playing dumb asses were just my friends like i have a lot of dumb looking friends i guess but um at some point we were location scouting this place and it was uh i guess it was a reform school of some kind like a juvenile delinquent something or other i don't know you're not allowed to call them reform schools anymore you know it was i don't know what's called like the institute of technological like some fancy names kind of down by now maybe i won't docks the place it was outside of austin just outside of austin but i didn't know what it was um and i thought i'm just looking around saying oh these people would be good extras like when we're you know and we had a we had a couple scenes with i don't know 250 extras and one was that ass movie the uh which we had to we actually had to shoot the ass which how much footage did you get too much but but i wanted just a non-descript ass by the way like and they i had to look at polaroids a crazy thing happened actually so the the dude it's like okay let's get this over with we should like set up the camera shoot the guy's ass and uh my cinematographer and i are just kind of going okay let's uh that's that's good let's just i don't know we shot like 10 minutes probably but um anyway the years later the guy i i'm introduced to this guy and his fiance and i'm looking at

him and i go oh hey um and it kind of looks at me like and i i realize who it is and i go oh i said because i'm starting to say i think i've met and and then uh later he goes yeah she doesn't know why would she care i think she does now that's a bad start to a relationship if you're about to get married to a lady and you can't tell hey they filmed my ass for 10 minutes for idiocracy why would he want to not tell that that doesn't make any i think he eventually did but at that point he was kind of giving me that maybe it was like early on in the relationship he was trying to be taken seriously yeah maybe he had like a real job oh he did yeah what was he worked in some kind of like finance yeah that's probably it he was mr serious yeah what a bummer that must be we played that movie though and like i was you had all those you know the juvenile delinquents whatever in there i they might have been like i don't know how old they were but we we put put it up there and i'm thinking like okay i gotta somehow get everyone to laugh like just laughing hysterically we start playing they're just laughing hysterically like it's nothing but that guy's butt on the screen and i was just thinking we should just release ass and stop writing a script and everything i think we're already there just release this thing but uh yeah anyway there was just so many moments like that in that movie where it's like it's i wish i saw it when it came out because i was wondering like how's it going to hold up because there's some movies that just don't hold up that good but it held up magically oh that's nice to hear it was very very funny the 10-year anniversary in 2016 um there are a few screenings and i still i watched pieces of it um

but uh but yeah i mean i i could i was standing outside the theater at a couple of them and i could hear people laughing people seemed to i mean they sold out whatever these the two ones that i went to so that was nice that's got to be a good feeling to just sit there and watch after all that work after all the editing and all the weirdness of yeah trying to figure out if it's still good to watch people that have never seen it before i've no idea what's coming laugh hysterically yeah it's a really good i mean especially something like that that was both that and office space were so difficult to to make and didn't do well right away you know so it's just like oh god like all that office space didn't do well right away either no wow that's crazy i need a well the beavers and butted movie was a hit right away but how the [ __ ] was office space not a hit right away i mean it was low budget but it didn't it kind of basically made back its 10 million over its time in the theater but yeah it was it came in like eighth place was that in the same time period when was office space 99 it came out oh interesting okay so it was earlier but then two years after it was it was in back when they did blockbuster home video charts it was like in the top 10 around christmas it was in the top 20 for off and on for a while which was really nice that's a great [ __ ] movie it's a great it's a great [ __ ] movie i love how you use a lot of the same people over and over again too yeah well you worked with steven oh he's the best he's incredible steven root was a guy that was the only guy on set that was 100 completely different human being than who he was on television oh yeah yeah it's crazy when someone and steven root like when he played milton just completely different like i've i've told i remember um i don't know years i was talking to ben stiller and he said who's who played milton and i said that's stephen root he's like what

you'd seen the whole thing and i had no idea that was him and he had met him and everything oh he does that in every movie he's in but that he's a different human hanging out on a set like he's a regular guy and then he'd become jimmy james and he would become jimmy james i mean it was a character that he developed i mean jimmy james had tendencies he had opinions he had like he had a whole like [ __ ] biography for this guy such a strong character yeah when i i saw that you weren't in the pilot right you came in the second third episode i was uh ray romano was the original me from the pirate from the pilot rather and ray got fired and then they brought in a second guy luckily and then that guy got fired because i didn't want to take the job from ray so i took the job from the job the guy who took the job from right which is good oh okay better because my friend who would suck oh wow like if if ray oh i didn't know that yeah so obviously it worked out fantastic for ray because everybody loves raymond he did right after that like so right after he got fired then he's doing everybody loves raymond which i think when that came out i remember um i had met paul sims in 94 and i was riding the king of the hill pilot and i was um or no i guess 95 or 96 but i was uh i met him before anyway i he's he had just he sent me a vhs of the pilot of news radio and i immediately called and said who's the guy playing jimmy james that guy's incredible like i've never seen him in anything and uh yeah then that led to him well he auditioned for king of the hill and he was just clearly just really now he was amazing and everything you know he did it one of the most incredible things i've ever seen him do as uh we we had a table read and and um troy aikman was going to be uh do a guest appearance in king of the hill which he did i think but he couldn't do the first table read and just at the last minute i understand why stephen was

a little pissed he's like someone said okay can you read troy aikman he's like i don't know what troyekman talks like i don't know i really you're just springing me on this and he proceeded to do the best version of an athlete pro athlete who can't act at a table read i wish i had a tape of it it was so genius the levels of it it was like he's doing a guy who can't act but he's doing a good job acting and he's throwing in an accent that sounds like a football player from texas and it was just amazing he was great and did you see that cowboy movie i think it was a coen brothers film oh yeah yeah it was a weird film where it's like a bunch of different yes i just it's and it's got tim blake nelson in it yeah um oh he's yeah i saw that yes i loved that movie it was a great movie's like it's only one of the coen brothers right didn't was not the first i don't know i don't know it let up do you know you know what i'm talking about jamie do you remember the film but it was like uh no it's so good it was multiple tragedies it's uh no there's been a few it wasn't no come on [Music] cowboy movie it's only one of the brothers i think it's and tim blake nelson's in it and it's her brother farato no no no no no that's another great [ __ ] movie um um just type in steven root uh cowboy film oh is that the one we'll go to his imdb and we can find it but he played some [ __ ] he's got a lot got his i know that's that's office space is right at the top though wait a second these are all too new it's fairly recent it's like 2019 i think or something let me see it'll be uh oh man where is this hair i can't hold on you're going too fast i know i'm a ballad of buster scruggs that's it yeah yeah yeah that's it there we go am i wrong is it yep 100 it is both it is both coen brothers i thought it was one of the ones that just one of them did yeah that that is a really good one there tim blake nelson is [ __ ]

awesome yeah he's so good you know what he's great in because this this movie is [ __ ] really fun the ballot of buster's drugs is so unusual and root's character is completely insane yeah so good it's it's just like it's one of those movies where you're like what the [ __ ] is this but that's all of their movies their their movies are so interesting oh yeah they're so weird they make so many i haven't even seen them all tim blake nelson's brother was a line produ was a producer on idiocracy actually tim blake nelson is in a great western called old henry have you seen old i haven't seen that one it's great i don't want to give away there's like a plot twist to it and you go what but uh it's a really interesting uh old western but it's not funny at all is it oh is it a recent one yeah i want to say it's like 20 20. last year westerners are going to come back that's it that's old henry it's [ __ ] good and that's one i just took a chance on i was home and uh i was bored and i was like let me see what's uh what new movies are out and i looked in itunes and it was just there and it was highly rated so i said all right let's check your chance is that trace adkins is in it oh man he's yeah so and uh steven dorff's great in it too i had no idea what the movie was about so i'm like okay let's just give it a chance and it was really [ __ ] cool wow i love a good western though i'm a sucker for a west oh me too i like um like unforgiving oh unforgiving's [ __ ] fantastic like one of the greatest ever that was like in my opinion that was like clintus would doing like a cleanup so yeah you know you know i did all these films that were kind of unrealistic about westerns and cowboys let me come back and show you what it was probably really yeah that exactly that's what like i get like watching like that's probably what a a draw like a shootout where people are actually

screaming and freaking out yes that someone died like yeah i mean that that was incredible and this one guy who can just keep it together and that's why he can kill everybody he just doesn't freak out yeah i like the stylized ones too but that one was just that blew my mind it's still that one holds up oh it's it's fantastic i mean i love all of his old westerns i love outlaw jose whales i love all the spaghetti westerns i had the box set of the dvds i mean anytime one of those would come on i would just be glued to the set it's really incredible that that moment in human history like when people were making their way across the continental united states became such a genre for film yeah i wonder yeah i guess there's not a lot of pioneers yeah you know what i mean there's a few but it's not nothing like the westerns listen they say there's like the wild west only lasted like eight years or something the way it's like where it was really wild or something is that really i guess it's all post-civil war right that i don't know i shouldn't be talking i don't i'm not a historian on it i just remember someone saying that that it's like it was like uh before it was really tamed it didn't wasn't that but there's like a million movies about it yeah well that makes sense i mean i think a lot of it had to do with the gold rush right yeah you know i mean that was the reason why people were motivated to make their way out to those weird towns in like san francisco and like all these place seattle there were there were miners lay down railroad tracks yeah this is a very unusual time in history but as a genre for film it's such a rewarding genre because it's lawlessness you can have this one person with morals and ethics who keeps the [ __ ] town together and then this bad guy comes in and is trying to take over and just such a you know such a classic story yeah just pure writing you know about yeah there there's also a bunch of quentin tarantino used to do a thing

where he'd come to austin and show it's just a collection of prints of movies that no one's ever seen like uh maybe now a lot of them are available but like i remember around 2002 2004 a couple westerns that didn't even have people i had heard of in it hardly like the that were just incredible i mean like i don't even try to describe them but they were like on par with all those whatever sergio leon spaghetti westerns and just just totally unknown yeah unknown i mean um some of them yeah i remember there was one where this guy he goes to a town he's like a gunslinger and the bad guys are coming and that they just desperately need him to save the town and and the guy the mayor promises the guy his daughter if he can defend the town and you kind of forget about it and there's a big shootout and everybody's happy at the end and you think this is a happy ending and then the guy goes no i get the daughter like he's like at the end of it like he's like and you're like whoa this dude wasn't really all it made they kind of make him not a hero at the end of it it was really interesting dark movie i can't remember the name of it and probably what it was really like back then right there probably were no real good guys yes you know when you have uh a time in history where the morals are completely eroded and you see mass atrocities committed left and right like even like whatever the bar is for the good guys is probably quite a bit lower yeah it doesn't take much to tip the scales into horrible anarchy now it's just it's uh it's so interesting how we romanticize those moments though those moments and like though that's like one of the big when we were kids we played cowboys and indians oh yeah you know that was i don't know if that's allowed anymore but that's what i don't think so i don't think you play in india unless you are right now we had the pop gun and you watched lone ranger yeah

yeah yeah people forgot johnny depp played tonto oh that's right he got in trouble oh he did he's not an indian yeah people are like 164th or something is he i don't know not enough yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's just such a i mean so many shows bonanza so many different television shows yeah i wonder if it's gonna make a deadwood was there wasn't there a western recently um didn't you know yellowstone kind of yellowstone i haven't seen that modern 1883 yeah the the prequel right yeah i haven't seen that is that good i haven't watched it yeah i've heard it yellow sounds [ __ ] great i hear it's great i gotta watch it yeah yeah do you do much consuming of uh films and stuff when you're not making them um i went through a long phase where i wasn't at all um and now i do yeah now i try to watch a lot of stuff but there's so much stuff i can't keep up yeah it's impossible people are always telling me about oh you got to see euphoria i'm like how how how i can watch this you know the thing that i just saw that made me absolutely want to watch it is there's an entire series of rowan atkinson trying to kill a bee have you seen that trailer 1b i was laughing so hard at this thing what is it called i think it's called something to be or something like that what we did a beavis and putted episode where they try to kill a fly mr bean man versus b wow he's got he just gradually [ __ ] everything up more and more just trying to kill this one is this a british film or it's a netflix thing uh netflix but it's uh netflix series from house sitters deluxe hello sweet pea it's dad here i managed to get a job it means that we can still go on holiday together

[Music] danny i'll call you back [Music] this guy has been doing slapstick for a thousand years i guess i'm just like i haven't seen anything like this in so long i was so refreshing they're gonna make an entire series on this premise which i just got to see how i think he can pull it off yeah probably where are you man versus b jesus that's a series which you just i haven't seen anything remotely like that he's an acquired taste like either yeah or you're like what the [ __ ] is this mr bean guy it took me it took me a little while and then i was all in [Laughter] well you can watch it style small like when you're not you just kind of need something dumb to like fall asleep or something i would like to talk to him about his health oh is he no because uh like uh i have this chevy chase theory my chevy chase theory is like everybody says chevy chase is an [ __ ] i'm like i bet chevy chase is in constant pain because if you think about all the times that chevy chase would fall down for decades all of his comedy was him like doing something and falling into a pile of chairs and slipping off of a stage and landing on his neck and he was constantly falling down he was constantly slipping on a banana peel feet first up in the air slams down on his head that guy fell hundreds of times he fell every night yeah saturday live didn't he constantly always well does it i think he does have injuries right right he has to like johnny knoxville has so like he's dick's broken oh his dick's broken he's beat up all kinds of ways yeah he's well he did it to himself yeah he did it he did it in a different way he did it in a way where like like an evil knievel 100 gonna get hurt yeah there's no controlling it at least chevy was responsible for his faults he's getting thrown in the air by bulls and

[ __ ] like oh my god that guy gives me the chevy chase one i'm fascinated by because when i found out that chevy chase was considered an [ __ ] by so many people i'm like what fletch that guy he seemed so cool like how could he be an [ __ ] and then as i got older and i i you know i have this deep concern about brain damage and brain injuries from fighters and stuff and then i was like watching him like how bad is he [ __ ] up like i guarantee you he's thinking irrationally i guarantee you he's very impulsive i guarantee he has cte 100 all that stuff gets your if even if it's not hitting your head yes it affects your impulse control you know a lot of guys that do that wind up being heavy drinkers or gamblers they're like the way i describe it is like imagine if all day long you're like irritated like yeah but you're going through life like that so you're going through life constantly and also impulse controls [ __ ] because of cte i wonder well you know all those it seems like the ufc guys the mma guys don't have that as bad as boxers or do they like it maybe no they have it bad they just haven't gotten old enough yet there's plenty of guys that have it pretty bad oh yeah yeah there's guys that get out and in boxing those guys get out like andre ward is my favorite example he's brilliant eloquent like incredibly good at commentary and and talking and explaining things and the guy was a two-division world champion and an olympic gold medalist and he just decided you know what i'm getting out while the getting's good i'm perfect i'm in my 30s he was in prime the prime of his career world champion he said i think i could serve boxing better as an example of what's possible than as a guy who keeps fighting oh wow yeah he's brilliant brilliant guy and one of the best commentators ever and that's rare though you know yeah for every guy like that hang on too long well it's like the thrill of doing that is so much more

exciting than the thrill of doing anything else in your life imagine if like you you know you do this one thing that gets you to tens and you got to remember with andre there was no real agony of defeat he was an undefeated world champion an olympic gold medalist he looks he's handsome so his pristine face didn't get busted up wow really never other than kovalev kovalev was the only guy that really hurt him in a fight never really got hurt bad and even in that fight he wound up winning he didn't get knocked out nope no no he won every fight he was undefeated yeah and if he had stayed in probably would have who knows i mean they usually stay in until they get knocked out don't they usually well until something goes bad bernard hopkins is a good example that but he was in his 50s when when he finally started getting really when he lost to joe smith jr and he fell through the ropes but uh ufc fighters most certainly get brain damage well you can get out without it it's possible but you know we did a thing yesterday we were going over nba players or excuse me nfl players with cte and uh they said 99 percent of nfl players that have been tested have cte 90 jesus it's wild so is that almost worse than fighting i think it's worse because i think it's uncontrolled because with fighting like say if uh if you're a skilled fighter you can choose to engage or not to engage with mma i think it's better than boxing because you could choose to tie someone up and take them to the ground yeah you know there's there's options i guess that's what i had heard yeah there's options but people get the thing is you're getting hurt and sparring sparring is hurting you almost as bad as the fights themselves there's a lot of people that wound up getting really bra bad brain damage that never even fought they just sparred a lot oh wow jesus yeah i mean sparring is hitting you know you're getting hit it's just that's where the brain damage comes from you know people get cte from jet skiing

really from hitting the water mm-hmm yeah oh you do hit the water pretty hard when you yeah we were on the lake the other day and i was watching these guys because uh there was a boat that was uh we were on jet skis too but i don't [ __ ] around like that i just ride they're fun to ride right i don't need to jump in the air and [ __ ] and i have my daughter on my back uh the back of the jet ski but we're we're behind this boat and these guys are you know they're making waves with this boat like it's a wake surfing boat you know those things so people can find them on the board right and these guys were riding those waves on the jet skis and they have these super powered jet skis now they're so [ __ ] fast and so every time they land it's like a car accident it's like oh god you know so you're the mush inside your brain is just slamming against the wall and that soft tissue that that keeps your brain in place it's all getting jumbled up is that going all night while you're you live right on the lake yeah it's not going at night the jet ski guys don't go at night the boat guys though occasionally you get a boat that goes out at night but you know a lot of the reasons why they do that is they go fishing at night they do uh catfish oh yeah or or they uh bowfish which is kind of cool they they take a boat like a fishing boat with lights hanging over the sides and the fish come near the light oh they come just come for little shoot it with bows and arrows yeah i want to try that i've i haven't done that yet yeah so you got into archery huh we were talking about you saw the range that we have here yeah yeah it's really it's really addictive it is right yeah started doing it in my backyard and well then i have a place outside of town with lots of room but um yeah i still have never uh killed a mammal but um i figure i eat meat maybe uh also there's a really bad hog problem on your feral hogs yeah everywhere how bad is your uh your ranch well right now i mean i don't know there's some some people that uh they kind of come and go so like about

10 years ago some friends of mine went out there and hunted a bunch of them but um i mean they they'll come through and it's just like a rototiller like yeah they'll just rip everything up it's kind of crazy a friend of mine said that he was raising sheep they killed like 20 lambs and one night hogs came through and just just yeah that's something that people don't realize they're predatory yeah yeah first time i saw one it's like big old tusks like they're crossed between i guess european wild boars that were brought over and escaped just domestic holidays i guess that the spanish brought over and they get big yeah well it's they're all the same animal believe it or not pigs are a weird animal and this is one of the reasons why pigs are weird when you take a domestic pig say a male domestic pig and he's you know eating feed and whatever you give them and then you open the gate and let them loose within weeks he starts to try to change and they'll grow tusks just by the conditions that they're yes oh okay not just tusks but their face changes yeah they have a different face yeah their nose extends they get longer yeah see if you can find anything on this because it's r it's really fascinating i was just reading yeah there's a book uh it's this author neil stephenson steven um it's called um oh [ __ ] what's it called um termination shock it's set in the near future where hogs are just out of control but he goes into the history of it but i didn't know so so a regular hog just start going wild if you i don't think there's another mammal like it not that i've ever heard of that when you release them into the wild physical they have a physical transformation like a cat could become a feral cat right and then they act differently and they're afraid of people but hogs their nose grows longer and they look different they look like a wild boar their fur changes it gets thicker and bushier their tusks grow so when you see those pigs yeah see this yeah they get that yeah that's what they look like that face like it's wild it changes their [ __ ] face wow and it

changes their nose i don't i don't understand like what causes it well i just googled this uh when domestic pigs change in the wild okay there just check that like let me see that right it didn't say much more than what yes but this is good right here it says domestic pigs can quickly revert to wild pigs although domestic pigs as we know it uh today took hundreds of years to breed just a few months in the wild is enough to make a domestic pig turn feral it will grow tusks thick hair and become more aggressive just a few months that's great and their nose changes like it grows and extends their snout yeah they look they look more evil it's the same genus it's they're all called zeus graffa so when but obviously it's just like dogs right there's you could like even like say a dog like a german shepherd there's big german shepherds and small german shepherds if you breed the big ones you make a big one yeah and that's that's how it is with wild pigs too but with domestic hogs and wild pigs it's not like it's a hybrid they're literally the same animals okay i also heard yeah when you well the ones that um uh my friends hunted out of my place they're like you don't get the bacon off like when they're when they're wild there's like they're still really good but not as they're not that fatty yeah yeah they're very lean and they're darker meat too it's like almost like a reddish meat yeah it looks different yeah yeah yeah well the ones that you get are us in the supermarket essentially like veal they're just sitting there in a pamper yeah and they're fattening them up until they're ready to slaughter them and that's really where you get bacon from bacon is from obese pigs yeah it only comes yeah they have to be super obese to get that yeah it comes off was it like off their rib cage or something i think it's like i don't know what the difference is between pork belly and bacon is bacon is uh pork belly i mean i think bacon is almost like brisket similar there was a writer on the simpsons i forget who he wanted to see he loved bacon so much he

wanted to see if it was possible to ever to eat so much bacon that he doesn't want anymore so he did an experiment we can't he just woke up and saturday started making bacon just eating bacon and there's a ton of salt in it and his tongue and his cheeks started swelling up and he actually had to actually go to the hospital because he's having trouble breathing but he was in the hospital right he said he still wanted more bacon in the hospital he never found the point where he didn't want more bacon oh my god i forget the guy's name that much salt there's really that much salt and bacon yeah i guess that's the it's cured salt that's what makes it bacon yeah like it's like a pork belly versus bacon what's the difference the most basic difference between pork belly and bacon is a pork belly cut isn't smoked or cured and it only comes from the belly of the pig the softer meat that is interchangeable with most recipes that call for pork whereas bacon can be derived from the belly and is cured and sometimes smoked oh so it is the same area it's just turned into bacon so streaky pork bacon is pork belly but pork belly isn't bacon instead pork belly is the whole slab cut from the flesh fleshy underside of a pig streaky pork bacon is cut from this slab and pork belly is unsmoked and uncured have you ever gone to um uh die douay in town have you ever eaten there oh that sounds familiar no it's a fantastic restaurant made by it's uh the head chef is this guy my friend jesse griffiths and jesse uh who's been a guest on the podcast before too is uh he runs a school what is his school called again he's got like um it's basically a school where he teaches people from scratch and takes them he does it in very limited numbers this new school of traditional cookery so he takes people out from scratch this is how you shoot a gun this is how you pull a trigger this is how you cite a rifle this is how you kill a pig this is how you butcher the pig this is how you cook the pig and he's an incredible chef his restaurant dai dua is one of my absolute favorite

places in austin i think i have heard it's amazing where is it is it i want to say it's on congress i have heard of this we'll pull it up yeah when i saw the pull it up just to let them know what's it on does it say what streets it on oh yeah over there on yeah yeah oh that's right by yeah uh what just give me a second that used to be read out it's by hoover's it's called mana it just gets disappeared when i got close to manor road office manor road just east of texas yeah that's over uh yeah by hoover's we go to hoover's uh but it's the way spell it is uh d-a-i-d-u-e right is that high spell it's [ __ ] great he um he makes a uh ceviche with uh antelope with texas antelope it's a nilgai ceviche so there's the antelope raw then yeah yes it's like a like if you would imagine a version of like tartar like a beef tartar but more because it's raw but think more in terms of like ceviche where it's cured with lime and he he'll put it on like chips you know like you'll you'll serve it with tortilla chips it's fantastic wow i've never heard of ceviche that wasn't fish he uh he has uh fish and chips from local texas fish like texas redfish oh so it's all kind of all local oh wow yeah it's and it's all like a lot of it is um wild like wild game well antelope yeah yeah nail guy antelope and texas is an interesting place in that you can serve wild game in restaurants commercially which is not legal oh it is a lot of other places oh most places like say if you go to a restaurant say in like michigan i don't know about michigan like california good example and you buy elk you're not getting elk from the united states you're getting elk most likely from new zealand the laws just yeah they um they can you know new zealand is a weird place because new zealand doesn't have any predators and almost all the big game mammals that are brought into new zealand were brought in into the i believe it was the 1800s they tried to create yeah elkhorn native no no no they have stag there which is a

very similar animal to elk very similar tasting but they and they similar they're similar looking too but they brought these animals over there to create like a wild game preserve for europeans so the europeans would come over here we've gone to new zealand and they're hunting these animals that didn't have any predators and so the populations boom to the point where unfortunately they have to call the populations of these incredibly nutritious delicious beautiful animals and they shoot them and just leave them there like they'll gun them down with hell oh so they're not even there's so many in the waste there's no there's no predators so you have these mountainous beautiful landscapes filled with these animals and it comes to time where they have to keep the populations in check so they do farm them and they do sell they sell a lot of lamb a lot of lamb comes from new zealand and a lot of elk comes from new zealand do you ever see that cane toad documentary no that's another example of the they brought these cane toads to australia yeah to australia to get beetles off the sugar canes and the sugar canes grow taller there so they didn't even get the beetles and then they just just reproduced no predator oh and then they brought in cats to deal with the cane toads i think oh i think they did yeah but this documentary australian hillbillies and just millions of cane it it wasn't supposed to be funny and then it became like a viral vhs hit in the early 90s but yeah anytime they bring up species like nature's so delicate yeah [ __ ] with it well that is all of australia and that is all of new zealand australia is filled with non-native animals jared diamond writes a lot about uh he wrote guns germs and steel yeah like he writes a lot about australia is like a really interesting example of a lot of just yeah humans wrecking everything yeah as is new zealand new zealand is uh god it's such a beautiful place but i've never been i've never been either incredible it looks incredible i mean that's where they surf pictures from there lord of the rings was shot yeah

yeah which is seems like perfect it's a very small population and a [ __ ] staggeringly beautiful landscape wow but that's a very big spot for hunters they go down there and they um you know they go to hunt these animals that don't have natural predators does this guy who serves antelope does he go hunt in west texas like he he goes to uh south texas i believe is where he gets the neil guy he also will buy neal guy you could buy neil guy from branches there's certain ranches that commercially sell neil guy but the way they do it is they you know they have these wild free-range animals and they just they don't like have them in pens and they go out and they they hunt them commercially like long-range rifles and stuff like that they shoot them and then they collect them and then they'll sell like a whole nail guy to a restaurant and then they'll like jesse will part it up and you know make steaks and roasts and and all these different things from it but his restaurant is is so good but it's the point is like one of the things that he loves is wild hogs and he has all these different recipes for wild hogs makes sausages and and you know loins and all those different stews and all kinds of i don't know mixed dudes i mean i made that up but he makes a bunch of different really cool recipes with wild pigs it's really i mean it's really good and there's i mean like i said i haven't i haven't hunted yet i think if i do it it'll i'll do it with a bow but um you think so just i don't know some about a gun just doesn't seem as sporty yeah i guess just because i love shooting the bow so much it's fun to shoot a bow but i guess you're more likely to not miss yeah that would feel that would feel bad yeah it's uh i mean this is coming from someone who hunts with a bow almost exclusively but i did shoot a wild pig last year in california with a rifle over the rival it's so much more effective yeah it's just you just get it in your crosshair boom yeah i was gonna i was

working on like 20 years ago it was going to be like a caddyshack type movie about hunting guides and just hunting in general and started watching hunting videos and it's a funny world i mean it's an interesting world yeah i mean it's there's different worlds though yeah there aren't yeah like there's the texas um like uh people that sit over feeders yeah you know so this is they call it hunting but it's really just harvesting you're just shooting yeah you know you just sit in a stand and you wait and then the feeders go off and the deer gravitate towards the feeders or the hogs gravitate towards and just blow them away so there's that way and then there's big game hunting in the west which is like you really have to be an athlete like because you're yeah that's when i start like some of these like there's a guy who with a traditional bow kills a bear and the bear almost jumps in the blind with him and i'm like okay that's actually pretty fair like you're taking a sword there i mean completely a little tiny risk it's like 75 25. yeah it still is about as good as it ever gets for the bear probably yeah you're highly favored i mean most of these a lot of these videos are just the ones that like 20 years ago that when you'd go to like texas trophy hunter convention or something these videos are like they have the rhythm and production quality of porn okay they're like they're like deer snuff films or something they're like it's like the and like it's kind of going along with cheesy whatever needle drop music was back then and then it's just like bam and then everyone's all kind of excited and adrenalined out and shaking hands too many times and everything like but but most of those that like that we were

looking at were just kind of for the the comedy of how easy it is like the timed feeder and there's just yeah you know like i said there's totally different kinds of hunting yeah i remember me and my friend duncan once we were doing the sci-fi show we were searching for bigfoot and we went and we were in the pacific northwest and we went to this spot that was like this weird little diner and we ate lunch there and they had a television on that was showing a compilation of all the kill shots on deal so it was like an hour-long video boom the deer getting shot in the rib cage and jumping up in the air and running to his death and it was like a [ __ ] shot compilation yeah that was like people too lazy to watch the whole porn you just want to see people jizz that's what it was like there's something like some of these videos it's like there's one woman taking her kid who looks like he's 10 squirrel hunting and i don't the whole thing like it's this happy music playing and then he kills a squirrel it looks like there's a brooder film or something that's really it's i mean at the time i wasn't used to hunting i was just like oh yuck this is like but uh but then yeah there's some of them that are just there's a video for an it's an ad for something called the barnes varmint grenade it's just like a it's like a bullet that just vaporizes groundhogs and i in the silicon valley writer's room i was just saying you got it like i guarantee like there's vegans in the room it's like and they were laughing it's so it's like watching monty python it looks so silly but it is it is an animal getting blown away but like it's it's so so oh no you've got the barns not this one no no that's that's what is this you got to go to the ad cause the guy the guy's voice is like the barnes varmint grenade what is that like this oh yeah try is that the one maybe barnes doesn't make only all

copper bullets the varmint grenade is a new lead-free varmint bullet that gives explosiveness apologize to anyone originally developed for military applications the bullet has a copper tin composite core this highly fragile cork greatly reduces the chance of ricochets cheese flat base hollow cavity bullet remains intact at ultra high velocities yet fragments instantly on impact here's how a 36 grain 22 caliber varmint grenade bullet reacts when hitting a grape oh my god there's another view in slow motion the varmint grenade bullet comes completely apart while it's still inside the grape oh wow here's what happens when a 62 grain six millimeter varmint grenade strikes a cherry tomato that's just over an inch in diameter i said way out of sink look again here's what's left of the bullet wow the varmint grenade vaporizes ground squirrels and prairie dogs have extended rain the thing is a coyote coyote and bobcat pelts are virtually undamaged delivers sniper-like accuracy oh it's just ridiculous barnes is a famous uh ammunition manufacturer they make copper bullets oh okay yeah so that's they're known this isn't like a fringe no no no no no they they're they make great bullets and so i guess they branched out into the people hate those little [ __ ] groundhogs and prairie dogs rather prairie dogs leave holes and a lot of horses and cows step in them and break their legs yeah people get yeah groundhog sir yeah especially prairie dogs there's a lot of videos of this is a video of a brock lesnar from the ufc shooting prairie dogs with a 50 caliber rifle yeah which is very similar bullets that are like yeah they're like your forearm yeah it's so crazy and these things just [ __ ] explode someone brought one of those out to my place and here it is prairie dog hunting with brock lesnar every time that thing was fired it was so loud there's like a shock wave you can see in the air yeah well it's an enormous round oh god yeah that's not a 50 cal that's that's just a

regular rifle he doesn't need a gun to kill he's like a yeah maybe i'm wrong maybe it wasn't him no he's retired from fighting he's he went to the back to the wwe and he does that and i think that's all he does now wow see if you find 50 cal did you look up 50 caliber yeah brock lesnar prairie dog and then rick look up 50 caliber i might have conflated him with uh with someone else who was shooting prairie dogs at 50 calibers there it is brock lesnar okay oh interesting they might have taken it down he might have gotten too much hit look at that here we go yeah there it is it's the same day just a different gun oh god no that's a very different gun though that's the 50 cal yeah that's the yeah just wait hold on scroll back up so i can see that what the title says there brock lesnar and murder and prairie dogs are 50 calories several rifle where's peta oh god where is where is peta what do you want to do peter you want him to die with a regular rifle better like what's the difference that's the thing is like is it is it ethical to shoot him with a 50 cal well it's not unethical i was just at the beginning of the video jesus christ oh he's not even embracing it no he's huge that's not a normal human man that's a viking that's what vikings used to be like i remember yeah he's got he's got to be straight pure vikings oh 100 percent yeah that's like he he had probably like a viking grandma he's frightening like minnesota vikings all kind of i mean the norwegians all settled in that area right yeah yeah i mean look my favorite example of vikings is iceland that's like more strong men come from iceland like go and win those strongmen conditions oh really i don't know it's there's a vice did a whole piece on it isn't that where you run like a red like yeah it's like no that's just it's

mostly like strong rope barrels over the top of like goal posts and they pick up i'm thinking iron man yeah you're thinking about yeah the strong man is the yeah yeah but they're just giants it's like that guy thor from the game of thrones the guy was the mountain oh yeah yeah perfect example like preposterously huge men and if you were alive you know 2000 years ago and those guys showed up on your shore you know with uh animal skins over their dick holding the sword it was over yeah they went up the rivers and just the village was over raped everybody yeah raped and murdered everybody a bunch of brock lesnar's yeah that's literally what it was which is really crazy to imagine that we've come so far that now oh yeah now the the result is this guy's out there shooting prairie dogs yeah it's like placate him do whatever you can to keep him calm give him a gun let him shoot the prairie dog yeah there's a former marine country singer here that him and he's like a like gun expert but he brought one of those out and yeah like i said like me and my friend just started laughing every time someone fired it was so absurdly loud and like you can feel this wave go across your face and i guess it those bullets go like two miles or something like did somebody in afghanistan or some somebody set a world record for with a 50 cal was it a 50 cal oh maybe it wasn't i know like i know there's one video there's a crazy find this video where a guy shoots a deer with a 50 caliber and misses the deer but still kills it he kills it because the the bullet passes right by the deer's head and the force of the bullet passing by the deer's head sucks its eyes out of its head and just immediately pulverizes his brain okay i don't feel like such a wuss then for me like no it's crazy the shock wave that that thing and this is with like noise cancelling headphones plugs in it's just like [Music] no it's a preposterously loud round also

but like again it's it looks like a sd's rocket or whatever yeah it's a big round it looks like yeah like a like a red bull can yeah so this is yeah that's how big it is look at the size of that so see if you can find the uh the deer the guy kills that's it that's definitely yeah yeah so he shoots and the deer goes down but then when he gets there so he's sighting in on this deer and watch this oh no oh watch this he shoots it the round goes off and the deer goes down right but so you think he shot the deer right so they go over and there's no wound on the deer wow it didn't hit it at all oh god isn't that crazy oh that's kind of hideous look it's such his eyes out of his head and his mouth like the deer's instantaneously dead but with no impact i guess that wouldn't be a horrible watch though when they show it see it just passes by his head oh man watch this watch it in slow motion it doesn't hit him oh my god i wonder what the range of just sucking eyeballs out is for that's so it looks like i mean it looks like he misses it by like an inch i mean if you watch the vapor trail i mean it's just passing right by his head or her head and then the deer is like that's a wrap wow isn't that crazy just the force of it passing through the air i didn't grow up hunting like i don't it's it's sort of i mean even like my family on my dad's side did but but like i didn't so it all just seems like hideous to me but then i mean you know it's uh depending on i mean there's well like new zealanders you know it's like they have to do it it is our yeah yeah and that's the thing about i mean native americans like that was there yeah the wild pigs are are really actually really bad for the environment is he still uh connected on here we got like a weird feedback you hear that you don't hear that

low hum but i mean it's super quiet yes the fan just so i should probably go around three just okay but um anyway where are you uh headed to i'm gonna go back to la i'm in l.a for the summer oh yeah too hot here too hot texas people like to do that they bail they yeah colorado a lot of folks here go to aspen yeah everyone goes to colorado and they go to new mexico too i grew up in albuquerque and my dad was always griping about texans coming in how long have you been here uh well in in texas since wow 88 um but austin 94 yeah yeah moved i was in new york for beavis and butthead for like a year and a half i guess i remember i came out here once for a ufc and you were backstage and i was surprised i was like this guy likes the ufc it's weird like yeah i got i got i'm not even a big sports fanatic but for some reason i got really addicted to ufc you're missing it it's here this weekend that's what i heard yeah yeah it's good one it's a big saturday night yeah yeah my friend was asking if i was going and i got to get back but wait who is it again well uh the main event no i'm gonna watch i haven't been in the audience of a ufc in 20 years oh really yeah you're only there i'm only gonna watch which is great i'm not working i'm excited wow um and so uh the main event is calvin keator versus josh emmett which is two they're two featherweight contenders but there's uh cowboy cerrone is on the undercard joe lauzon just a bunch of very good fights very exciting fights cowboy cerrone is from texas isn't here no no he's uh from colorado yeah colorado that's right yeah so here tim means versus kevin holland that's a great fight joaquin buckley versus uh i don't know uh albert duryev but joaquin buckley is a [ __ ] assassin there's great fights really great fights oh wow interesting that guy durieve is the

favorite oh interesting wait who he fought someone didn't he beat somebody big he's uh oh buckley no no let me see what his record is um i kind of i was i kind of stopped watching for a little while and started getting back into it but i used to i used to be addicted to it i was um oh yeah um um you were addicted to it yeah was the when i saw it when you were there was that was like 2011 or something in austin oh he fought anthony oh he's going to fight anthony hernandez that got cancelled now he's fighting buckley so this is only his second fight in the ufc maybe his favorite over buckley which is wild he must be talented i did not see his first fight though lausanne's been at it forever forever this is a kind of a retirement fight for both guys i mean donald cerrone is in a new movie right now um with gina carano and actually a western um that's coming out soon oh he acts he's been yeah he's starting to act i mean that's what he's going to transition to i believe you know out of fighting he's going to transition to acting he's perfect for that he's such a character a bunch of mma people have gotten into yeah when you're casting films like that's got to be one of the weirdest parts of making a movie like you have this idea you write it out and then you meet a bunch of people and you got to get them to try to become this thing that you've created on paper it's yeah it's my i mean i i actually am am proud of who i've cast i think i'm pretty good at but but it's my least favorite part of the process the audition part of it like i mean it's like going on some weird horribly awkward date every five minutes for however many hours you're doing it because every person comes in and they're

they want to they're looking for any sign on your face of how they did and a lot of times they're really great and you want to tell them they're great but they may not just be the type for the part and you want to say that but all they want to hear is that they got the part yeah nothing you can say that's so you just kind of go okay thank you and and you know it's there's you want to give the part to everybody but you can only pick one it's just it's such a yeah and also when you're yeah if you wrote everything and you're hearing it done horribly sometimes that makes you shakes your confidence in the material and i mean usually though like my first experience with it was because i mean i doing animation i was doing a lot of the voices myself for most of them but like with office space um when i did start having good people read for it it it makes makes the writing seem better like actors can make the writings make the dialogue seem better than it is sometimes i think like i i remember thinking for some of the i mean then sometimes it doesn't work at all and it makes you think it's horrible but i remember thinking wow i'm a pretty good writer [Laughter] but a lot of it's just because the actors are just making it seem so real terry crews was the perfect president for that movie did you did you have him in mind like who did you have in mind when you wrote no i mean i think maybe it's okay to say no you're not like i was sort of thinking benicio del toro actually oh he would have been great too yeah i mean and he turned it down i think uh but but i don't even know if it got that far once when terry auditioned he just stole the part like i i i was showing it to people it's one of those things where when some something's that good you just keep watching it you know and i catch you and i just kept watching it and he's a rare funny guy who's also jacked yeah i was i was just saying that like

he's yeah he he's f a lot not many people can pull that off and he's very few he kind of has to be jacked he might be the only one he might be the only guy that's built like that that can is really funny there's something that where it all works like with his face and when he was doing that i was just i kept going like wait this is amazing like this he's the president and he's that jacked and he's making these puzzled faces and he's he's got so much corrections he was a porn star and a wwe champion yeah was the character a w look at him i mean like yeah how many people are funny and they're built like that it was like [ __ ] nobody no it's really rare so rare and and you buy into it like it makes you laugh and when you wrote it did you write as a wwe champion was that already in there before terry was there that was in there yeah um that was in there and um so i guess like i actually auditioned not for that part for some of the other ones a lot of wwe people and something like there are a lot of them are decent actors but there's something just that wasn't funny in the right way but they didn't read for that but um we had um yeah we had uh uh at one point tank abbott read for not for that part but for um i think the doctor in the hospital and he was actually pretty good he was pretty funny actually smart dude yeah like he's he's a surprisingly smart guy who just likes to beat the [ __ ] out of people yes he seemed smart he seemed like a funny i mean i've heard i'm pretty scary or something but i thought he was right he's a very nice guy he seemed like a nice guy i've gotten hammered with him before he actually just came upon hard times yeah he had a delivery cancer transplant

which is not surprising if you know how hard that guy partied well he was saying he was saying to it because he came close to i came close to casting him for he'd read for a couple different things and but he was really really nice guy but he'd say like okay you guys can call me i might be drunk like he can't say i might be drunk but he had a he showed me like he's i guess all the fights he would he would do these like pit fights on the beach for the hell's angels or something and he he just like takes these teeth out and goes like yeah see i just finally got these so i could just take them out and because i know teeth kept getting knocked out or something but uh yeah what a legend yeah he was uh a real character in the early days of fighting and he was the first guy that i ever saw that figured out to put on gloves oh oh that was you didn't have to wear gloves back then oh when he first started fighting gloves were optional and he did it to protect his hands very small did he invent those kind that or i guess were those not full boxing gloves but like no he definitely didn't invent them they were around i think century might have had them as like bag gloves at one point in time and he started wearing them it was him and vitor belfort those are the two guys the first guys that i ever saw wear those gloves and then uh but i think tank was first and then they wound up being a thing where people would wear them and then it became standard yeah those old ones were uh were great you know john chris feluci the ren and stimpy guy was way into that and he claims to have given spike tv the idea for the ufc reality show because he was saying yeah you guys gotta you guys gotta follow tank abbott around when he's installing air conditioners and he gets to see what he's like during the day you know and he installed air conditioners i think that's what john said back then yeah had a regular some kind of nine to five i didn't know that yeah

that's what john crystal is yeah i don't know if he was he came up with the idea but uh but uh that kind of really boosted the ufc oh that was it yeah that was 2005. yeah that was uh that's right around the time idiocracy came out yeah i was doing the i was in the editing stages of it when i started watching that actually got me hooked yeah i got everybody hooked the finals of stephen bonner and forrest griffin was this insane fight that the during the fight the the amount of people increased substantially that's what i've heard yeah which was like people were calling people up and go oh my god you got to watch spike tv yeah i was watching fight is insane yeah it was live on spike it wasn't a pay-per-view right yeah yeah i was live on spike it wasn't a paper there were there's no i mean nobody was really watching the ufc i mean there was pay-per-views that were still on i think back then we were just on direct tv i don't know if we had gotten back on cable yet but it just wasn't that popular were you on you were commentating i started commentating a couple years before that i was commentating in 2002 that's when i started oh wow well i actually started in 97 i was the post-fight interviewer oh really yeah i did that for a couple years that was in like ufc 12 was the first one that i did it was in dothan alabama we had a flying and a puddle jumper player i've seen i've seen that one i think yeah and that was vitor belfort made his debut and he knocked out trey telligman and scott ferrozzo to win the tournament it was uh the early early early days you could wear shoes back then it was a completely different sport all right you look at those old ones you're wearing shoes yeah you could still pull clothes people are pulling ponytails used to be able to punch people in the nuts there was a lot of uh crazy [ __ ] that you could get away with back then

but it was uh it was a different world and i did it for a little while but i thought it was like a novelty and it was something that i well as a martial artist the question was always like what would happen if a judo guy fought a karate guy so they the ufc came along and they said let's see and so for me it was exciting just to be there and watch and i was always a fan of it and a lot of the japanese organizations and then it was just i was losing money doing it and so i quit and so then i got on fear factor and i would go to once the ufc was purchased by zuffa the fertitta brothers and dana white i would go to watch the fights in vegas and i became friends with those guys and they would get me ringside tickets and i would say hey why don't you do you know about this guy's fighting in japan do you know about this guy from russia and they would go hey you want to do commentary i was like no i don't want to do commentary i just want to watch fights like i want to do it yeah you're the voice of it now though it's crazy it's all because of dana dana talked me into it 20 years ago wow and that's the story all right so uh beavis and butthead it's out when what is the date it's out uh let me get this right june 23rd june 23rd okay so we'll release this plus we'll release this the day comes out so that juices it out look at that beavis and butthead do the universe i'm [ __ ] very excited very excited to see this streaming june 23rd and is it on what's it on paramount plus yeah another uh and then that's where yellowstone is oh and uh okay cool and then uh the new episodes come right after that there's episodes where they're old yeah if you click on that one there's uh we're doing a little spin off where they're middle aged and how many episodes do you guys do uh there's gonna be 24 but there's two in each half hour like it used to be oh nice they're going to be watching tick tock videos and music videos and when is that going to come out when is the uh august i think first week of august

fantastic yeah mike thank you very much for coming in here man i'm a giant fan of everything you've done thank you you're awesome thanks for having me my pleasure anytime all righty all right bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music] you