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[Music] hi what's happening good to see you good to see you also what's crackalackin um well are you ready to get wasted yeah you and this [ __ ] you and this [ __ ] vile beverage that you bring i brought lord i was like joe is going to actually be mad to people what this is okay i brought rycia uh joe rogan this man right here he talks about racial well i give it to people and every time i give it to people they're like jesus i don't know it's one of the rare alcohols that we've had in studio that we haven't burned through yeah and i noticed you didn't give it to snoop the squandered opportunity i was like you're like yeah you don't want that i was like maybe he does i can't take a chance with snoop okay so brycea is moonshine from the state of jalisco which is where i live in mexico and it's similar to mezcal so it comes from the agave plant and that is the end of my explanation because after that i am confused i don't know why you like it i don't know why either like i have no i'm not like i don't love most booze like really i love drinking but like i love whiskey i love scotch i love where i see it so you like strong stuff i don't like tequila i don't like vodka yeah i don't like rum yeah you're a strong drinker well obviously if you like ricea you you're a strong drinker you like you like stuff you feel yeah but i mean what i i can't explain it like i can't explain why i don't like tequila but i like racial which everybody else hates okay thank you [ __ ] like megan just do you you do you like yeah exactly so okay so what i brought this is actual moonshine it's it didn't come in this bottle my friend put it in this bottle for me but she actually bought it from on the top of a mountain in yalapa from a guy
i've tried it it's okay no no it's not gonna kill you i mean yeah i mean does it kill you no no no it's good i mean they've been making this stuff for centuries so they put in that bottle did you they sell it out of two liter coke bottles i feel like that's what this came out of a two liter like coke bottle yeah we definitely tried that one i want to look i want to look at your face okay are we putting it in mugs yeah i mean [ __ ] it this is not formal no we're not getting these coffee mugs here because i'm probably going to pour coffee in it later and just go dude you're going to hate this i promise and then after i'm going to give you some that you might actually like and if you don't like it then i give up on you forever oh no i'm a whiskey and we're not friends anymore i love whiskey too buffalo treasure always that's my kind of [ __ ] okay cheers my friend cheers nice to see you again very good to see you okay oh boy i just got ricey all over my face and that's what happens when you drink out of mugs it tastes like it came from a [ __ ] coke bottle do you like it at all like i don't know i kind of like it obviously you're like i mean let me tell you like well megan oh you're a strong cup of coffee as a human you know and it makes sense that you would like a strong beverage okay thank you yeah that actually makes sense i appreciate that makes sense yeah you know it fits you this and this is like it's either 47 or 48 proof and the way that they test the proof they ain't tested [ __ ] is by she showed me a video my friend showed me a video and the the guy who was making it put it in this little thing and then blue bubbles with a straw and then he looks at the bubbles like he looks at the size of the bubbles and sees like how fast they pop and that's how you know oh super accurate is he snake charm as well
like what the [ __ ] um this one i bought from the bar across the street from my house because i really i really loved i was like this is so good yeah and i couldn't find it anywhere like i couldn't buy it anywhere so is that a popular beverage with mexicans or is it a popular beverage with the expats uh more like mexicans like for example yeah this one is beautiful i love the little you might this one actually to me tastes more like a mezcal do you like mascara like this one is smokier um so you might like this one but i also like the bottle i like how the bottle comes with that little necklace yeah you can wear that if you want no but it is pride month it would fit for pride month perfect yeah you couldn't represent your lgbtq um allies or whatever counts or leprechauns yeah whatever um but yeah like i mean mexicans this kind of stuff they only sell to locals like they don't sell this in stores they sell it to the locals who live in that area so yeah mexicans like it i mean some mexicans most people that i know think i'm a crazy person also like in mexico they're like you're the only person who buys this mega like you burn through all of our icia and nobody else buys or issues is that mostly what you drink down there yeah wow like i drink red wine with dinner or at home but if i go out i drink rice again you get that if you ever try to get a bar in the states like have you ever gone to austin and asked for raicia no i don't think they would know what that is maybe i'll try try it tonight give it a shot okay yeah i'm going to try not get too wasted tonight because i have an event tomorrow oh what's your event it's called women leaving the left we're it's a panel of women females adult human females um and it's at the austin central library on west cesar chavez did you say that right
yeah 7 10. um and it's basically like i like i've been writing a lot lately about i'm just like going to launch into my spiel or whatever i've been writing a lot lately about like my political transformation i suppose you could call it i i mean i was super left-wing for my whole life like from when i was a kid i grew up in like a marxist household so i was like a socialist and a feminist my whole life until maybe i don't know two or three years ago i started feeling like i wasn't super into the labels anymore and definitely started feeling becoming very critical of the left and not just the way the left had treated me which has been abhorrent um but ideologically i think that there's problems it's not you know what specifically bothers you well i mean i i guess so part of the thing that happened was that i realized that attaching yourself to any movement in any ideology limits critical thought and independent thought um you get trapped into this box and the people that you're allied with in these movements also trap you into that box right and i am a writer and that's you know i'm a thinker you know like i want to learn i want to know and i want the freedom to change my mind about things um i want the freedom to explore new ideas and i want the freedom to talk to you know i also do do podcasts and i want to be able to part of the reason i do it is because it's interesting like it's a great way to learn i'm sure you know that right yeah sure i've learned so much just from the opportunity to talk to so many different kinds of people and ask them questions about things oh yeah that i don't know about it's an amazing resource it's amazing
running a podcast and being able to have conversations with people it's changed who i am i mean if you go back 12 years ago when i started the podcast what i know and the way i talk and the way i think about things it's very different yeah yeah and i'm sure that that played like a large role in my changing my mind about all sorts of things right because you're exposed to new ideas and different perspectives and people who come from different backgrounds and i mean i just feel like so many people on the left and so many people in feminism are siloed um and that is probably true about the right to a certain extent it's just that i'm much less familiar with the right because i've never been involved with the right before right but i feel like on the left and in feminism they're around people who only agree with them who only see things their way and they refuse to speak to anybody yes who doesn't see things their way which you know exactly exacerbates the problem um and i didn't want that i felt intellectually bored also like i was like okay i feel like i'm just repeating myself now so i'm not even thinking critically about what i'm saying i already know the analysis i already know the mantra i know what my response is supposed to be i know what words i'm supposed to plug in right you know patriarchy capitalism yeah intersectionality all no i never got fully into that nonsense but you know and i and i i really like i was i really have been treated very badly by the left and by feminists when you say that though don't you think it's just specific people that are attached to an ideology it's not like people that are left-wing people have treated you badly it's very specific kind of people that decide that you are venturing away from the ideological boundaries it's partly that but i think that is connected to left-wing politics and left-wing ideology at least now maybe that wasn't true in the 70s
but left-wing thoughts right this is a thing that i have a problem with with all this stuff it's like i'm very open-minded and very liberal when it comes to gay rights women's rights civil rights all you know even things that i'm i'm still on the fence about now like universal basic income boy i was i was all in until the pandemic and then watching the way people behaved when they got a hold of uh a lot of unemployment and the the money from the government the coveted relief money and they didn't want to work anymore i was like oh you know i mean i i know it's not a lot of people you know it's not like all the people react in this exact same way but i have friends that own businesses and they can't get people to they couldn't get people to work for them like i have a friend who owns a restaurant he couldn't get a bartender like the bartender would only work for 20 an hour or excuse me uh for 20 hours a week so that he could get unemployment and he was like what the [ __ ] man like yeah i mean but i i think that's partly um i mean yeah that's true i mean it's like but i think it's that's partly like baked into left-wing ideology nowadays because there's this like opposition to um you know independence there's an opposition to trying to better yourself as an individual person there's an opposition to individualism because you're supposed to blame the system yeah you're supposed to blame capitalism racism patriarchy you know and then all the myriad of phobias transphobia fat phobia and so the solution is not to change you it's not your fault it's their fault because they're phobic or the system's trying to keep you down so i think that like not wanting to work anymore is like well like why should i i don't have to like they don't realize that it's like it's good for your mental health to work like you're not supposed it's not good for your mental health to sit around in your apartment on netflix or on zoom or on social media or on dating apps or looking at porn all day well the thing is it's like
it's not good to not be self-sustaining is my thought i think there's an issue but i think for many people you get unemployment and you use that unemployment to try to find another job and to sustain yourself and it's great but for some people there is a general human tendency to uh when you're offered a break to take that break you know when you're offered money to do nothing to do nothing and you'll do nothing um i think my thoughts about universal basic income were and this is what i liked about it i like the idea of giving a person an opportunity where like we pay for so many things we just send 40 billion dollars to ukraine right why can't we figure out a way to give people enough money to sustain themselves so that they could actually pursue their interests and do what they want to do and i think that would make for a stronger world a stronger economy a stronger community of people and happier healthier people that was my thought but then when i saw how people reacted with the government money from coveted relief and from from um unemployment i was thinking man i don't know there's a lot of people that aren't going to react the right way and what they're going to do is they're going to take an easy way out and they're going to lay around and that sucks like if you give people an opportunity to be lazy unfortunately a lot of people are going to be lazy and the the problem is if you oppose that if you oppose that relief then people say you're cruel and you know you're not looking out for the working people and it's like that's not first of all that i hate those [ __ ] categories like working people god damn it everybody's working shut the [ __ ] up it's not a working people issue we're all working everyone's doing something right or you're not and if you're not that that is the problem the problem is when people don't want to do anything because that is a general instinct that people have towards laziness and the problem i think with whether it's universal basic income or any other social safety nets
which i very much support for the most part is that some people it's not everybody but some people have a tendency to just be [ __ ] lazy yes and again this is attached to i think leftist ideology because i think what i've realized of late is that leftist ideology is about idealism like it's like we want to create this world and this is the way the world should be but in reality that world doesn't exist and people don't work like that like what they want and i'm saying this as somebody who believed these things like people have i people get really mad at me but people are mad at me all the time um nothing new but you know people when i start criticizing the left people get angry at me first of all because people i think like to categorize people and box them in and when they start moving outside of the box they get angry and confused and frustrated and so they'll just want to write you off or hate you or call me right wing or whatever but you know i i was a leftist and i thought like these people and i thought that it was right and the reason that i was a leftist is because i care about people it's not because i'm an evil communist like right the right is very bad at writing people off too it's like all these communists like these people don't even really know what communism is they i'm sure they've never read marx for the most part but you know i didn't want people to be poor i didn't want people to not have housing and food and access to health care and education i wanted things to be more equal and just that's why i was a leftist but the solution was an idea you know like if we create this kind of society then we'll all live in happy communities and everybody will work and nobody will slack off and like there'll be no exploitation and like rape will disappear and oppression will disappear and that's not what happens in the real world that's not what's happened in places that have implemented communist regimes no so it and you know you can't it's i don't think that it's good to base a movement on idealism and ideas
that are not rooted in material reality do you think i mean the argument is always that socialism has never been implemented correctly um this sort of utopian idea of what a real genuine compassionate socialist community could look like that's never really been done correctly but do you think it's a human nature issue do you think it's like like the the idea of socialism is great on a surface level if you you're thinking about people that work hard and that want everyone else to do well and they want to all contribute like you i think you could have a socialist community of very driven disciplined people where they they share they share things like we have some social things right like uh the fire department is an excellent example of socialism because we pay in to this thing that supports these people who put out fires and nobody complains about it it's a normal thing it's something that we contribute to it's like a fund and that fund puts out fires and it puts out fires you know based on your tax dollars you put into it and you don't want a society where if you don't have money they don't put the fire out right but some people would argue that that's that's where it ends like you shouldn't have that and extend that to education you shouldn't have that and extend that to um healthcare but i think that's where socialism could work i think and i don't mean socialism like across the board i mean socialist ideas i think the idea of a universal health care system where everyone is covered and you never have to worry about anything like bankrupting you because you broke a leg or you you hurt your back like that you're taken care of and that we all contribute to that and again if we can give 40 billion dollars to ukraine why the [ __ ] can't we do that we can do that that's totally possible the education system the idea that you have to be in debt i was reading a story the other day about this woman who's 250 000 in debt uh from student loans and she took out
150 000 so over the course of the uh interest that's accumulated she's got a hundred thousand dollars more in interest i'm like what the [ __ ] is that dude and you can't get rid of that it's [ __ ] uh tell me about it like i mean i i support public care still like i do think that it is imperative that people have access to health care and i think the health care system in america is horrible because i think the aspect of it that's horrible is that people can go into insane amounts of debt because they got sick or hurt like that's not okay to me it's not okay and the same student loan debt you're like you're right like you you you get an amount of debt that you can't afford to pay off with the job that you've gotten from going to university and then they're charging you all this interest so it makes it doubly impossible to pay it up and it's like a trap i mean and you can't get out of it no but you can't you can't declare bankruptcy anymore you used to be able to yeah you could sell some horrible medication that kills people get sued for it lose all your money go bankrupt and you're good you you it'll absolve you of your debts but that's one of the rare forms of debt that you cannot escape which is crazy because you're you're giving it to 18 year olds you have an 18 year old doesn't have a full year take i want the money but also like i couldn't afford to go to school full-time i could not i was like you know for my whole life until i was able to you know make a living off of what i'm doing now which took a lot of work and me working for free for many many years i had like three jobs all through university like i was always working full-time and you're trying to complete a degree and they make that impossible too you can't complete a degree part-time at least i couldn't in canada because i couldn't take classes and like i couldn't finish a degree only by taking night classes it's impossible so eventually you have to quit your job and you have to go into debt like people who are critical of students who rack up a ton of student
loan debt and can't pay it off um don't seem to under they're like why don't you get a summer job and save money over the summer and i was like i don't live in my parents house like when i was 18 my parents moved to the states i have to pay rent like my parents aren't paying for my life for me i like i don't have any money to save sometimes i don't have enough money to get on the bus and i have to walk to work this is when i was like you know 19 20. like i was broke for most of my life like no i wasn't poor like i don't want to be like what was me like i was at a house and you know something to fall back on like i was never gonna be homeless it wasn't like i couldn't eat but i it was no saving money like i did not have thousands of dollars to pay tuition i had to take out student loan debt i had no choice right do you think that there's a certain amount of struggle like that that is not just uh good for you but necessary in order to like steal your discipline and create a person who can overcome adversity like if if everything is handed to you this is the argument that the right will use right that um if you make things too easy if you give people free education if you give people free health care that they're going to become soft and we need a resilient tough country that works hard and the way you get people to work hard is you force them to because that's the only way that people are going to do it i think it's true in some ways i mean i think that struggle is imperative and important i think that you need pain to experience and understand pleasure um i think if there's just everything is easy for you i think you get really depressed like you need to work hard and you know what it you have to know what it means to like suffer and feel pain and to like be bad at things and to like get better at things yeah um i know i don't need to tell you this but like i i i mean what i experienced was useful to me in the long term i think because i understand like i understand real life
i understand why people go into debt i understand how hard it is for people who are poor and working class to get out of that like what a lot of people on the right don't understand is that class still is the real thing in north america um it's not as overt or as visible or as extreme in as it is in third world countries um but it's still it's still real i mean if you if you are born poor and working class it's not that it's impossible to get out of it you can and lots of people do and that's incredible but you're challenged in so many different ways mentally and in terms of systemic barriers you know being able to get a degree for example and having the kind of credit that you need to take out loans to you know buy property get a house so on and so forth but there's like a mental barrier that i experienced because i thought i'm working class i'm always going to be working class i don't understand money i don't understand capitalism i think this is probably to do with my politics also i'll say that um like i don't know i don't know how to make money i don't know how to save money i don't have like business sense and i was i limited myself in that way um because i just thought i was like i'm never gonna be able to own property like i'm never gonna be able to afford to buy a house so whatever like so i'm just gonna work at you know making fifty thousand dollars a year and pay my rent and that's the end of that like and i think that people who come from money see money as an option they're it's accessible to them so i think that they might work harder to make more money and to you know invest and to save and to well they also have examples of people who've done it so they can exactly they could see it happening and they they see a path too if you have an uncle that started a business and became successful you go oh i see how to do it i mean and i knew i knew when i was a kid i knew when i was a teenager
and this is still true now that a lot of people who own houses and properties that's because they had family money yeah you know their parents put their down payment down for them so if you don't have that i don't have that so i was like how am i like what i'm going to save up 30 000 like for a down payment yeah the term working class one of the things that bugs me about it is it's like it it's it's one of those like things that gets used often as a cheap political ploy like we're here for the working class yeah and then people you need to support the working class there's this that's what drives me nuts about it because it's this weird sort of categorization of people because it does classify people in almost an inescapable little tomb you know you're the working class you're part of the working class like what do what what if what the [ __ ] does that even mean like are you talking about people that are struggling to pay their bills yeah well that's the majority of people that's the majority people and oftentimes what we consider not the working class people are such knuckleheads that if they make 400 000 a year they spend 399 you know and they become the working class they have a lot of other stuff that they have called knucklehead is that you i mean i don't i didn't make that much money but i'm like oh [ __ ] there's money in my bank account but you know what i'm saying it's like the the thing about the idea of the working class is that people are struggling you know and uh i i totally get that i totally understand that and i do think that we need to protect protect those people that's why i'm in favor of universal basic health care of of universal health care and that's why i'm in favor of social safety nets that's why i'm in favor of you know community programs and making things more accessible to people and definitely i'm in favor of at least reducing the burden of the cost of education in a massive way maybe lift the barrier to an entry to uh education make it harder to get in in terms of like the the output you have to put forth make it difficult to get in but make it so that when you get in once you're in there you know like you know there's going to
be community colleges that you can go to there's going to be places you can go to if you're not going to be able to make it to a university but the idea that you you should be and fifty thousand dollars in debt and that it's two hundred thousand dollars after years and years of of interest accumulating it's crazy and you can't get out of it that's crazy that's a sick industry it's a it's a sick industry and in it it captures so many [ __ ] people it really does it's crippling yeah and i totally agree with you i support all of those things too so it makes you a lefty you're right well i i mean i think it's part of this again is that i don't want to categorize myself as anything right because then you get stuck in these boxes and it's like well you're a leftist so you have to support black lives matter you're a leftist so you have to believe women you're a leftist so you have to you know want to open the borders you want to abolish the police blah blah blah blah blah that's what i don't want and i don't and i don't want to be trapped in any category or ideology i support practical ways to help people so if these policies work to help people then i support them if there's different policies that are categorized as right wing that help people that are better that are more effective then i'll support those policies that's what i mean and and also you know what the left has become is totally different than what the left used to be i don't believe that the left supports the working class or cares about the working class i don't i think that the left is caught up in i think that the left consists of middle and upper upper class people who don't know any poor people who don't know any marginalized people who don't know working class people who don't know you know they're they're advocating for people as these groups and categories that exist in their head and i say this because i'm from vancouver i lived in vancouver my entire life and vancouver is a very left-wing place all of my friends were left-wing
i didn't have a single right-wing friend i didn't know any right-wing people i barely even knew like any religious people i knew a whole bunch of people who were like me do you have right-wing friends now yeah i think so um like i've i've met basically since i was kicked off twitter i you know that was like a blessing in disguise in some ways people don't know you we should just like give just for people to listen to the other episode i met megan because i was outraged um and i brought it up and i brought up your case in the conversation with jack dorsey i brought it up multiple times in the podcast because you were kicked off twitter for life for saying a man can never be a woman mm-hmm which is madness yeah that's like men aren't women is what i said yeah apparently men are allowed to say that matt walsh is allowed to say that i'm not allowed to say that i mean like i i like after i got kicked off of twitter i saw right-wing men on twitter saying the same things that i've said then they weren't kicked off of twitter and i think that's because were you in a conversation with a trans person when you said that not that i'm aware of i don't know who was in the conversation it was part of a thread and it wasn't like i was saying to somebody you're not a woman it was in response to a tweet that was sort of confusing and me saying but men aren't women though what was the do you remember what the i don't remember what the context is was to be uh so you but it was that there was like three tweets but also like they i believe that twitter was going after me specifically because i was speaking critically about gender identity ideology and because i was asking these kinds of questions that i like i don't think that it was specifically because of these tweets i think they took those tweets as an excuse and like i think they were trying to get rid of me and then they're like uh okay that's hateful and when you say they it's probably just some moderator it's probably someone who has a
subjective opinion about what you say and whether or not you should say it and that's a problem generally that a lot of people have with the censorship that's on social media twitter in particular you know one of the weird things that's happening now with uh elon musk buying twitter or attempting to buy twitter they've done something different and one things they've done different is i gained now it's 900 000 followers in the month or so what yes i mean a lot of people really like you so maybe nine hundred thousand more people were like i designed it i loved it i think i was in a box i think it was megan kelly said the same thing did you hear her say that she said she gained a lot she gained a ton like like a hundred thousand or i'm i don't remember the number but also a lot like it was really noticeable and so she was like she's like i'm pretty sure twitter was you know messing yeah around with my account yeah i think so i think there's something something was going on i mean i'm just guessing the other option could be their bots that i've gained 900 000 bots but it's it's like every time i look it's like another hundred thousand it's crazy it's it it grows faster than anything and instagram is the opposite instagram seems to have hit the brakes on me like something oh yeah somewhere around six months ago something happened and it seems like it's it's slowed down growth a lot i don't check it too much so i might be wrong it might be you know i mean maybe it's something they've done with their algorithm where they prefer videos over photographs now which i think they do they are they're trying to go more video i believe because i read that that's where the viral uh effect really takes place and i see with my kids with tick-tock you have one daughter who's a heavy tick-tocker oh yeah she's always doing dancing i've never been on tick-tock i don't really understand how you're not 14. that's true but little girls they get together and they do dances and and they like to like memorize dances and sync it to music and yeah and then they're watching all these other people tick-tocking and doing other these other and it's like
tick-tock just hits you with video after video after video and they just get you hooked you open that app up and it's like you're already like oh movement things are happening and this is what they're trying to do i believe with instagram i think so too and i i did i've read that i don't get it because i hate watching videos on instagram and i hate watching videos on my phone in general like if i cause i'm an old person i guess like i'm like if i want to watch a video i want to look at a big screen like i'll watch stuff on my laptop but i i hate i don't like reading stuff i don't like using my phone i don't even like texting on my phone to be honest like i text on my laptop but i mean i sort of think that instagram messes with me a little bit too they refuse to verify my account i've tried like five times how many flowers do you have 14 000 no sorry is that right what's the number that you think you can get who cares i don't want to pretend like i like don't give a [ __ ] because i do give a [ __ ] but not that big of a [ __ ] um is there a number that you have to reach before they're they'll verify you oh i went up to 14.3 k today from situations thank you but i i just felt like my uh my posts were getting less traction all of a sudden and they were no different than what i'd been posting before yeah i don't know what that is like that could just be coincidental but i know some people have definitely been [ __ ] with and you know wasn't there a football player who complained a lot about it jamie and then eventually he got let out of instagram just why does he need a like he's a football player like what does he need an instagram account i need an instagram account because it's how i make a living well he does too that's how you get sponsors when you're a football player you have to get sponsorships lots of followers yeah they're more fun fine i'm sorry football player like sports well you think about it i mean if you have a large following like
a tom brady i mean god how many sponsors does he have oh okay you know i mean that's that's an amazing way to income you don't need an instagram account to throw a ball you need it for gatorade and nike and yeah all the car sponsors and all kinds of different things when those guys have a large following that's very valuable which is really an interesting thing it's like what is social media for i mean you're using it for as a business or you're using it to be social are you just having fun and you know expressing yourself are you using it to maximize your brand air quotes i mean i don't brand i swear to god i don't i'm obviously a very authentic person i believe you i i just i mean i i have to use social media for work because i work for myself so it's the only way i can get what i produce out into the world and it's that's how i make an income almost solely through individual donations like so people who send me donations through my website or they sign up to my patreon or they pay for a subscription on stack which i don't i haven't put anything behind a paywall so you can people can just choose to pay or not so i just appreciate it if people pay because that's how i make an income but like i don't have i don't there's no institution there's nothing yeah and but but i also i would not really i don't think i would have a public instagram account if i hadn't been i didn't start a public instagram account until i was kicked off of twitter like i have to do that i don't love spending a bunch of time on social media do you did you enjoy twitter though when yes yeah i'm like i don't know why everybody complains about twitter all the time because i really liked it i tried to get back on because i know some people that were banned before they they try to get back on they got back on i i appealed twice since recently yeah yeah so since elon musk announced that he was
going to buy twitter we'll see if that actually goes through or not um they just gave into one of his demands oh did they yeah they just released uh they see if you can find what the article says but essentially um he said unless they give him access to data so he can find out how many of these accounts are fake right because his his take on it was like if you were gonna buy something and you were buying it under the assumption that okay here it goes twitter set to turn bot data over to musk all right so this says that twitter's board is reportedly set to pull at about face offering elon musk internal data on hundreds of millions of tweets as advised for the billionaire to complete his acquisition of the social media company twitter set to turn over information to mosque capturing more than 500 million tweets the device the post came from and other information about the account holders the washington post reported wednesday citing an unnamed person familiar with the matter such a move would help respond to musk's repeated demands for more information about the composition of twitter's user base and the extent of its problem with bots musk has challenged twitter's claims that just five percent of its accounts are bots calling the way the company calculates fake accounts very suspicious in a may tweet so um i'm really uh interested to see how this plays out because he is what he would describe as a free speech absolutist and i think that that is something that people are reluctant to uh to agree is a good thing because they're worried about the negative aspects of free speech you know they're worried about [ __ ] and you know and trolls and all that stuff toughen up man toughen up and i'm not joking yeah i i was calling myself a free speech absolutist for a while and then i interviewed michael salina who's um with the founders fund and he organized heraticon which was a conference that i went to in miami in january that was like amazing it was basically like a wrong think conference
was it good it was amazing yeah it was awesome do you smoke cigars no you want one no okay i'll choke i want more racial though okay i used to i smoked cigarettes from the time i was 13 until 21. you got your ac is right next to you well i want to open a different one because i want you to try this one will you try some more no it's nasty dude this one is good i swear to go okay listen if you don't like this one well i already said i'd give up on you if you don't like this one look at how beautiful the label is in any case it's a nice bottle real pretty poison okay well i'm gonna have more go ahead i love the smell of cigars and i've always wished that i could but i don't know how to not inhale so i choke like because i treat it like a cigarette cigarettes well i quit when i was 21 so and i think and i hate cigarettes no but um [Music] i quit when i was 21 which was good timing because that was like around the same time when all the bars started not letting you smoke inside i used to like go to the bar and drink beer and smoke cigarettes the good old days i used to like common clips imagine you now yeah in mexico like in cellulite where i live you can smoke anywhere you want and i take it because i love cylinda and i love freedom i love mexico and i love that there's no rules but when i leave the bar and i wake up the night i wake up the next day coughing my hair stinks my clothes stink yeah like you're probably catching a buzz though even though you're probably so many people spoke there it's crazy and coming from somewhere like vancouver that's like a super healthy place so nobody it smells so good like i really like it but i can't do it i get it i get it um and you're not going to peer pressure me notice [Laughter] i went along with it didn't you see yeah i went along with your joke thank you i appreciate that um they used to be able to smoke in dallas like up until like fairly recently because i remember the addison improv which is a club i love uh it's a suburb of dallas they had uh smoking shows and i want to say it was in the 2000s
i don't know when they stopped doing it interesting like okay well actually no because so i sorry i should speak into the microphone um i know about this i know how much work yeah well i've had like the last podcast that i did with you i saw online a ton of people being like uh megan got drunk and i'm like dude i had two drinks do you know how many drinks do you know how much i see i drink like if i go out to like party like i'm like i'm going out i drink like i don't know like 11 or 12 shot like shots of racia like two drinks i'm drinking eleven or twelve dude so much racial it's crazy i don't even know how this is like once a week this is not i mean maybe that sounds like i'm like it's not every day like 12 shots and i go through it really like it's i go through it real fast sometimes i have to switch to whiskey so that i slow down because i can't drink whiskey as fast as i can drink racia but um that doesn't make any sense either no it doesn't make no none of it makes sense to me but so they so i think in vancouver so when i was 21 that would have been like 2001 and that was around the same time i think i'm really bad at math um like they were they were cutting out smoking in bars probably around 99 2000 around that time right and before that you like there was still restaurants and cafes with smoking sections which was no different from the other section and uh yeah you could go to bars and clubs and smoke i would always come home with like cigarette burns on my fingers and holes in my mesh tank tops and i remember that in restaurants cigarette sections smoking sections of restaurants and it's just not that chair but that chair yeah and not ventilation that's set up to like really filter things out pretty well either like vegas is set up pretty well vegas you can still smoke indoors can't you this is real smooth yeah james is yes i really think you should try it whenever you're poisoned this is a real smooth cheese it is she's such a crackhead
it is like this i was like yeah oh my god meg it's not smooth it's nasty this one is not smooth that one is well you [ __ ] up she started me off with a good one there's still time we'll get there i'm i'm a proponent of you know you having the ability to do whatever you want the problem is like the people that work there if you're if you're smoking and like that there's so many cases of uh people that are waiters or waitresses in a bar and they they get cancer from lungs and they don't smoke it's horrible yeah i can't imagine having to work in those bars and clubs or work on airplanes when everybody's smoking on the air that's the craziest thing you're in a [ __ ] that i'm a tube in the sky enough that was like strange what year did that stop i want to say that stopped in the 90s right really i don't know i mean i'm trying to think of i when i was first on a plane i don't know i think dice clay used to have maybe earlier than that probably i mean so they were still doing it in the 80s you think it had to be late 80s because i think dice had a bit about it in like 89 or 90. you're in a [ __ ] tube yeah he had this whole bit about uh like a section he's like what we're breathing the same [ __ ] air yeah i mean i really i don't yeah i don't like it and i think that it is unfair to impose that on employees who like have to be there yeah it's that's the problem the problem is the people that work it's a workplace environment safety issue but you know if you'll have a social club that doesn't have employees you know like there's there's places that set up uh they set up places as social clubs so that they can get around certain rules okay because it's like a private space like uh cigar bars cigar bars have that kind of setup you know or like hookah lounges is that similar i've never interesting i've never tried a hookah i'm like i've got what's the point i don't get it you get a head rush wild tobacco head like a head rash like nausea that's what if i try to smoke a cigarette now because i every once in a while in general i find it gross but
every once in a while i'll be like there'll be a cigarette smell that appeals to me for some reason it probably smells like my like du maurier ultra like king size that i used to smoke when i was 17. and i'm like i want to try a cigarette and then i'm like oh that was [ __ ] disgusting and now my mouth tastes like an ashtray and it makes me feel ill like i was lucky about quitting smoking because when i started smoking less the cigarette started making me feel sick so if i would have a cigarette i would feel sick like it was not heart i wasn't like oh lord i love smoking cigarettes so much i think i just smoked cigarettes because i was like a teenager and i was nervous and wanted to fit in yeah right yeah it's um it's interesting that you could down 11 shots of raicia and that doesn't make you feel ill and a cigarette will make you feel ill i sip the shots i'm not like doing it but you're [ __ ] 11 of them they have to get down eventually i am a very you're robust i come from robust irish stock that's what it is it's the irish stock totally yeah it has to be i mean it's a really great skill i appreciate it i would be so sad if i had like two shots of ricey and was like whew gotta go to bed well it's weird how it is uh genetic and that some um some people of certain ancestry they don't have a historical you know there's not like a lot of history of their ancestors drinking alcohol and they have they struggle with it whereas irish people generally well you know but there are a lot of irish alcoholics but they they can put it down better for whatever reason yeah i mean you also have to know how to drink like i i don't do shots like i wouldn't go to the bar and do a tequila shot because i don't want to get wasted and black out like i want to keep going until 5 a.m so you gotta what is the appeal of drinking to you like what is th that thing this is an interesting question and i thought this i think about it all the time because like because i don't love drugs
do you like pot no not at all nope i don't like it i tried for many years to smoke weed and i it's not for me it makes me i don't i don't like the feeling of being high um i i'm sorry i know that's it we've had this conversation three times today you don't have to like what i like like this is the kind of podcast where you come on and you agree with everything i say or you're out and you're never coming back what is it about is it the paranoia yeah i feel paranoid i can't socialize like i get super self-conscious so if i smoke weed i have to like stay home and lie on the couch and watch tv and eat candy and that's not what i want to do in my life like i want to be out and socializing or i want to be productive i want to be able to work and i can't do any of those things like i so and i don't like then not knowing when it's going to end like i also i don't like mushrooms because i'm like okay this was fun for five minutes and now i feel weird and i don't have any control over this like i think i want to be in control control thing yeah um like i i also like i don't like uh like mdma because it's this and like now i feel like i feel it makes me it doesn't do what it does to a lot of other people like it makes me feel anti-social and like i want to go like sit in a corner and then wait for it to be done i think i like drinking because it's it's social like i like going out with my friends and like you know laughing and being stupid and talking about stupid things and doing karaoke and like getting loose and wild and yeah and i work i work a lot like i think people think i'm on vacation all the time because i move to a vacation town and probably i post a lot of vacationy looking photos but i work you know five or six days a week like i work until 2am like if i'm working i wake up at noon mind you but it's not that the grind continues as the alarm goes off and people are eating lunch [Laughter]
it's almost dark is this because you're up late riding yeah like i work until 2 a.m and then you're wired because you've been working so then like i do my best riding at night yeah i write at 10 p.m yeah um and and then yeah and then i'll like try to unwind so i'll like watch a show so i end up getting to bed at like three four a.m if i'm working which makes sense so you wake up at noon yeah like and i need eight or nine hours of sleep i honestly do like if i get less than that i feel like [ __ ] my brain doesn't work my job is brain related like i have to be able to function i eat badly like i don't want to work out like if i'm tired my day is [ __ ] yeah um most people eat badly if they don't get sleep isn't that interesting yeah like it's like you crave junk food like you crave sugar and like white bread mm-hmm yeah um so it's just yeah it's battle there's some sort of a reason for that they've there's uh they've isolated some reason for why people make poor decisions with food when they're tired yeah i mean i'm sure there is because i've it's always been like that for me like i remember like when i had an office job you know and i had to be at work at 8 in the morning or whatever i would spend the whole day drinking like sugar coffees and then i'd want like a cookie yeah and i'd buy like some pastry thing at the cafe like it's yeah i mean i guess it's your body trying to keep you up like and i don't really eat that stuff very often now kind of kills your judgment too there's something about it it's like it kills your ability to form make good decisions yeah i feel like i feel like office life is like so unhealthy i think it works for some people for me it was it made me super depressed i felt tired all the time i eat badly and like i would get to friday and be so done that i'd be like go party and then you party all weekend and you get to sunday night you're depressed you have to go back to work again well here's the thing that people are pushing back against a lot is um the idea of doing remote office work like there's a lot of people that feel like they're more productive at home and then
there's a lot of other people who feel like their employees need to be in the office because that's the only way they can keep track of their you know whether or not they're being effective or whether or not they're they're actually working one of the things we found out during the pandemic is how many guys jerk off while they're on zoom calls how many why are men so stupid honestly sorry they're different that's like uh they're addicted to jerking off yeah they're addicted is it that they're looking at oh they're looking at porn yeah gross yeah i think it's uh they're also they're when like i'm like why are you getting horny on a zoom call yeah it's not even horny it's it's an it's like attic behavior that's what that is like if you're like if you're a disciplined person and you're working you should be working right you're working on a zoom call but i think that whatever work is so [ __ ] boring or they're not really connected to it so like i'm just going to mute my camera over here and whack one off real quick and maybe they think it's exciting to be able to jerk like it's risk-taking yeah yeah it's like secret and the bad and the shame and it's all wrapped up in that yeah there's something to that but i mean like a lot of people got busted and they keep doing it i mean guys watch porn at the library like at the public library and like on the plane which if i weren't you know a libertarian now i'm sort of joking i don't identify as libertarian i would say that should be illegal like it's like you can't watch porn in public have you seen people watch porn on a plane really no but i've seen other people see other people watching i've seen it on the internet okay a friend of mine uh opened his laptop i would be so upset if i saw a man watching porn on the like i would i don't know what i would do is it's not legal right what are the laws of 30 000 feet does that count assumed it was legal oh the law's up
there like can you it's not i don't know if it's illegal to watch porn at the library because men do it it's i don't i don't think that's legal they might kick them out because they like be like you're gross or if they tried to like whip out their genitals they're gender neutral genitals but you know how there's like different laws if you're out in the middle of the ocean okay is there different laws in space i don't know the answer to this question right like i wonder if the laws are exactly the same when you're at 30 000 feet that's a good question because where are you still in right like are you in america or are you in the ocean like if you're over the ocean what is that what maybe it's up to the business like maybe it's according to like american airlines gets to decide whether or not you're allowed to watch porn on the plane oh here it is although some systems of national law still adhere to the view that ships and aircraft are part of the territory of the state the nationality of which they possess this is merely a crude metaphor in international law a distinction has been made between three types of state jurisdiction territorial jurisdiction over national territory and all persons and things they're in quasi-territorial jurisdiction over national ships and aircraft and all persons and things thereon and personal jurisdiction over all other nationals and all persons under states protection as well as their property in case of conflict territorial jurisdiction overrides quasi-territorial jurisdiction and personal jurisdiction while quasi-territorial jurisdiction overrides personal jurisdiction okay so there's like tears okay territorial jurisdiction over national territory so but that does mean that in cases of conflict that territorial jurisdiction overrides it so that means that if you are over the united states of america that is territorial jurisdiction because it's territorial so
like when you're in the ocean that makes sense it's nobody's which is really kind of interesting right it's like we we allow people to own everything which can't own the ocean yeah i mean technically technically you're not allowed to own a beach in canada anyway is that true in the us too it is right is it but but you can still you can buy up all the property close to the beach and then like build like a fence so that people can't get through but you can't like my parents live on a small golf island and i went to and you know like you in bc and on these islands you can go to beaches and there's nobody else there it's awesome and it's like super beautiful forests are beautiful mountains are beautiful blah blah but i went to this one beach and there's a path down to the beach and it says no trespassing private property but it's like well it's a beach i'm going to go to the beach and so we're down at the beach and the czech who owns the property comes down and is like you know like you're not allowed like you're basically you're allowed to come to the beach via a boat but you're not allowed to walk down her path to the beach so she's essentially created a private beach she's like how did you get here like you guys aren't allowed to walk through this place and we're like oh no we're just gonna swim back yeah it's weird people don't own the beach but you do own everything above high tide you can own above high tide that's how it is in malibu so i have a friend who has a place in malibu and he was telling me that his sons were surfing and they were in this area and this guy didn't know that there was sons so the guy comes out and starts screaming and yelling at them they get the [ __ ] off the beach and you know he got mad at the guy and then you know there's this conflict and the guy realized oh you live here okay these are your sons but you're not allowed to yell at people to surf like if because they were laughing and surfing in front of this guy's house so he thought because he spent 10 million dollars in this house he should be able
to tell people you can't surf in front of my house but there's been cases in malibu where they hire private security so you know what uh i think it's called billionaires beach like carbon beach so these people that have all this money buy these houses and then they hire private security to kick people off the beach but they can't you're not allowed to so then there's lawsuits where people sue the people who kicked them off the beach and i don't know how they resolved that but i know it's ongoing and technically the people that are the beachgoers are correct you can't keep people off the beach it's everybody's yeah it's just it's just the getting there part that is technically illegal but of course these people do feel entitled and they're like this is my private beach like what are you doing on my private beach if you want to buy a [ __ ] place and you want to buy a place that's on the water that is what comes with the territory yeah people it's the ocean right like people can do whatever they want with the ocean like you don't get to own that the problem is if like you know if you have a bedroom and you like to keep your windows open so you could hear the waves crash and then you have people right below you and they're [ __ ] partying playing shitty music and too bad bro that's what you get for being rich wow i'm joking i hope to be rich somebody what is this jamie i just picked is that carbon beach see that's beautiful but i think so i think where the people aren't allowed to go is wherever high tide is so i think high tide is like right up to there so when that area like walking on the beach anybody can go there they can go there they can play they can [ __ ] around but i think above that it's supposed to be theirs the person who's in front of the be which is like still kind of [ __ ] this is so strange looking to me because i've i don't i've not seen like this isn't a thing in bc where the houses on the beach are just stacked up like town houses oh they're right next to each other if you have a place on the beach like on the island you're it's going to be like in the forest and like you have acreage and
well malibu is a weird spot like that because there's so much money there's and these people are so rich and they're stuffed right next to each other it's real weird seems unpleasant to me i rented a house there once because my kitchen was getting redone and it wasn't bad because you don't notice that people are there because it's so loud you hear you hear the water crashing against the the rocks and everything all day long and it really is beautiful like in the morning i would eat breakfast we were only there for a couple of months but i would eat breakfast in the morning and the way we were at we were out on this place that had like a deck and the water was almost under the deck so when you sit there eating breakfast it's like you're on the water i was like oh this is nice that does sound nice it's nice like this is terrible oh it's so nice i never want this to be that but that to me is it's a very specific thing like the kind of like what i like i like to be like almost in the water almost in the water is beautiful it's because i got to look out i'm seeing like dolphins i was watching like seagulls swim around and [ __ ] and fly over here i'm like this is nice being near the ocean is the best i mean i where did you grow up well i grew up all over the place i was born in new jersey but i only lived there until i was seven i lived in san francisco from seven to eleven and then i lived in florida from 11 to 13 and then i lived in boston for the rest of the time like i was born in vancouver and grew up in vancouver so i was always near the beach we did a lot of camping i always swam like i would bike to kids pool every day all summer which is right on the ocean and now like yeah i would the idea of i live in a beach town now i would never live somewhere or i think i would feel almost like depressed living somewhere where there was no ocean or i would feel trapped like i it's almost like a claustrophobic feeling like and lakes don't cut it it can't just be a body of water it has to be the ocean that i can see and access that's what you like and i don't even go in the ocean why well insane
i mean i i did in vancouver like i have been in the ocean but it's not like in sailidi like i don't go to the beach in salina no partly because i'm inside my house until it gets dark um but like i don't want to i'm not like a lie out in the sun kind of person i'm pale yeah i have a spray tan right now so that's why i'm looking so i probably look like almost like a normal human being you're many degrees lighter than me even with your spray tan i know that's part of the joke but i'm not gonna go live in the sun because i'm just gonna get like cooked skin damage and sweat and i can't like i work in the day like i'm saying before like i work a lot like if i wake up i'm working until 2 a.m right every day except for thursdays because that's karaoke night um but i know you'll see you do karaoke i'm not very good but i really like it i think that's part of the fun of karaoke is sucking at it i mean it's not fun if everybody's good right you're supposed to be bad and like yeah kind of sad when they are good well yeah it's sad if people take it seriously is what's sad it's sad they take it seriously like if you're good but you just happen to be good and you're still kind of joking around you're not taking yourself seriously fine but if you take it really seriously i think that's embarrassing and depressing tap potential thing you're like this is my skill in life yeah nobody everybody else here is just here to have fun and like scream into the microphone with their friends i mean it doesn't have to be sad let me expand on that it's just sad if that's your moment it's you know what's sad unrealized dreams that's what's sad if you really wanted to be a musician and karaoke is the place where you get to flex your muscles like but then you go back to the factory in the morning that's sad yeah or you wanted to be a pop star like you wanted to be famous yeah and it's sad because you're behaving as though you think that you're more talented than you actually are and i'm not sure if deep down inside you believe it but you kind of project that
like like i take this really seriously because i'm very good at it and very talented and i can't make a joke about this because that would like hurt my ego i don't even know if it's a talent thing with music i know so many talented people now living in austin um austin is an amazing place to go see live music it's really [ __ ] cool there's so much live music here but what's stunning is you go to these bars and there's like 15 people in and you see this person on stage and they're [ __ ] amazing and you're like but isn't it's the same thing with comedy like there's so many amazing comedians who like never really made it right sort of comedy today is more accessible like comedians make it now more than ever before talented people which is great they they get on youtube and they put up like a video up on youtube like their own personal thing and they'll get hundreds of thousands of views millions of views and do you make money off of that well it's not just that it's it's an advertisement for people to come see you in the clubs that's really what it is like all comedy specials are just to let you let everybody know hey this guy's good you know hey look she's doing it this is it you watch her do this video and then see her when she's at the the local club or the local theater that's what it is and that's more accessible now than ever before because the barrier for entry is not as steep in that you don't need cooperation like a musician needs a band you know unless you're acoustic and you just have a guitar which is that's a hard grind too right yeah but if you are a comedian you just need a comedy club and there's so many comedy clubs and everybody's working you know it's a lot there's a lot of working comedians now like but what does it mean to make it as a comedian like what would make just is that your full-time job yeah full-time job to be able to sell out a club okay yeah that's like a like when we think of like con like i had this conversation with these guys that uh opened for me the other day uh i was telling them i'm like you were already you've gone over the hump the hardest part is being funny i go then it's all about continuing to work and continuing to write and continuing to
get better and continuing to write new material and then getting aligned with a group of other comedians that can help because that's a big thing in comedy is people take you on the road with you like i take these guys on the road with me and i introduce them to the world like if people come to see me you're going to come to see me but you're also going to get to see tony hinchcliffe you're also going to get to see hans kim you're going to get to see joey diaz and through that you know these guys have developed careers so now they can go on the road you know like tony sells out like big ass comedy clubs and theaters and he kills it when he goes on the road and it's because he did all the right things and you know he's a perfect example like tony self produced his own special and then sold it to netflix he paid for it did the whole thing didn't that happen to chris um does stefano yeah i really like him yeah he's great like he just did his own and then netflix bought it and netflix bought it arie sofia did the same thing he made his own special netflix bought it and a lot of people do that that's uh it's it's easier i don't think it's easier to be a great comedian no that would be so hard it's easier to if you are a great comedian it's easier to make a living i know i have friends that are great musicians that are [ __ ] just just above poverty yeah totally i mean there's lots of people who are great musicians and they just they have to keep their day job and they do it in their free time for fun essentially you have to bring people with you you have to have like musicians have to have [ __ ] sound guys you have to have the drummer and the guitar player and people that carry your stuff roadies and trucks for all your [ __ ] and yeah but i think i mean with musicians and music it's like being good like people aren't gonna like your music just because you're good like just because you're really talented just because you're a really good musician people aren't necessarily gonna wanna listen to it and that's evidenced by the fact that so many people listen to like garbage crap music
right but isn't that just human taste like people like or no taste i mean when i was younger i used to think that way i used to think that people didn't who didn't like what i like uh or were idiots and people who liked things that i hated were more did you grow out of that yeah i grew out of that okay we'll see how i do i just i have as i've gotten older i've looked for less conflict in life at every given opportunity i just try to find less conflict and one of the best ways is to not care what other people like like as long as they like like i'm not into mumble rap but i have friends who love mumble rap they like to smoke weed and listen to mumble rap i'm like okay i used to be like what the [ __ ] are you listening i don't understand a word this guy's saying but now i'm like okay okay i understand that some people like different things than me yeah um but i think when it comes to music like there's some people who i think genuinely just aren't really into music which offends me because i'm really into music and i love music and people who sort of i feel like there's some people who just turn it on and it's noise and they're like this is the popular thing i'm just gonna listen to it that's what i mean by no taste it's not like um people who are like i don't have anything against country it's not what i listen to in my spare time but i totally understand and respect why people like country music and there's some that i like no i there's some that i like but like simpson i don't know who that is say yes you know what dude i was i was watching your podcast the other day and you didn't know who wilko was i didn't that's weird why is it weird like i know i know who it is now wilka's been around for a long time they're really gonna tell me listening to that music on headphones riding a bike next to wild horses and crying because he was so happy because it was such an amazing moment because the song was playing i think he was buzzed too he's always drunk he's probably drunk i'm worried about him are you really face looks like a cherry he i was
watching uh is he listening right now i hope so i was watching two bears one cave the other day and uh bert was on with tom and tom looks like a [ __ ] athlete he's like lost all this weight he's fit he works out twice a day now and bert has assumed all of tom's bad habits and and ramped his up as well why do you think that is i mean if you don't feel comfortable you don't have to talk specifically about him but like why do you people like people who sort of who fall into alcoholism or not taking care of themselves and maybe they did at some point and then they just stop because i and i say that like i'm thinking of people that i know in my head i'm not i don't know bert so i'm not talking about him but like people who are it's like you were sort of okay and now you're like a daily like you get drunk every day i don't know i well bert likes to party well i love to party and that's never like and i genuinely like i but i do i love like i love drinking i love to party but i'm super organized about it like i'm super red like i'm like i work all these days and then i can go out thursday night and i kind of try to like [ __ ] off a bit on the weekends just because otherwise i would work all the time so i try to like not check my emails and not go on social media and stuff like that but i still do i often will end up working sometimes on like sunday night or friday night or something like that but like i don't want to be drunk every day i love drinking i love to party but i do not want to be drunk or [ __ ] up every day well bert works a lot the thing about bird is you can't say partying is [ __ ] up his career because it's done the opposite like partying has united him with other partiers who come to see him but doesn't he feel like [ __ ] when he wakes up in the morning i would imagine he doesn't feel good but he does a lot of ivs he does a lot of like vitamin ivs okay you know apparently he told me we were hanging out the other day he got his liver done he got his uh his blood work done his liver is okay
okay good that's great to hear i'm i'm worried about him i'm genuinely worried about him because he's almost 50 and he goes hard and you know he's very overweight and he decided that when his tour was over he was going to slow way down and he's going to get in shape so he documented it on instagram he documented the size of his gut size of his chest his size like his weight he put all that stuff down and he's going to show measured improvement because i think he's off at the end of this month he's off for three months so for three whole months he's just gonna exercise and try to eat right i feel like it would be really hard to stay in shape and eat healthy if you were on the road all the time you can probably speak to this but like even when i used to before covet i was traveling probably once a month for work like to go to a talk or something and it ends up being a week and then like i can't if i'm traveling for work i'm not working out i'm not exercising i'm eating on the plane i'm buying a sandwich at starbucks like i can't like i have to be home to maintain like a healthy lifestyle healthy for me but you know like i go i work out four days a week with a trainer and i work really hard not because not out of self-motivation i'm not self-motivated at all that's why i have a trainer my trainer is excellent his name is chris at culumbo and celita he is he's so awesome i was telling you about him earlier like he's not only i mean he was a really good boxer he trained with canelo um he's like a really good at jiu jitsu he competes but he's also like he's really into training like he loves it he loves teaching people things like he loves to like see people improve and he if i don't like i go to training because he'll be disappointed if i don't show up like and and he pushes me really hard harder than i would ever push myself um if i was partying i wouldn't go like that's the other thing is if i if i'm out getting wasted i'm not gonna be able to get any work done the next day and i'm not gonna exercise and i'm gonna eat that like it
really [ __ ] up you're doing 11 shots i take friday's off i haven't it's because i have a plan so thursday night i'm being serious thursday night is karaoke night it's my favorite night of the week it's like run by my friend zach you do it every thursday every single thursday and that bar is across the street from my house i can't not go i'd be sitting inside my house listening and be like oh there's my friend singing pearl jam like like so i may as well just go but i also love it but that one day a week the bar stays open until 5am instead of 2am for karaoke night so i am up until 5 6 a.m every single thursday so fridays i don't work out i don't plan work stuff like i don't schedule interviews i plan to be in bed until 5 pm you've this is really interesting because you've kind of cultivated this very idyllic life there it's very it's very romantic like you're a writer you're up late at night you're drinking all the time like there's something about drinking and writing that seemed to go hand in hand you know like some of my favorite writers were drunks i don't okay i i agree with you but i don't drink if i'm writing yeah you don't have to like if i'm if i'm working i'm not like i'll have a glass of wine like i have a glass of wine every night or two glasses of wine every night but i don't get like drunk but it's i do i love my life it's amazing like i really wish i made more money because like i don't have any like savings i don't own anything but it's like i all my friends in bc are depressed well you're a really good writer you know and i think it's a matter of time before you do make more money but maybe it's just also the way you're doing it it's kind of interesting too with the patreon and or the sub stack and that kind of setup that's a very honest way to live though you know people are only paying you for what they like and it's their choice their decision you know totally it's i don't yeah like anybody can just donate money to me if they support my work and they do and i find that really like kind of amazing and generous because i don't know if i do that like and
i have a great relationship yeah and i mean and it's and it's liberating for me i just do what i want to do like i write about what i want to write about i think about what's important to me i talk to people i find interesting tell me what your sub stack is so it's just that i can find you it's called the same drugs but i think it's just megan murphy like at sub stack or whatever megan with an h um and it's pretty new but i like i like writing is what i want to do i don't have enough time to write as much as i want to write because i spend so much time on the podcasts and the video stuff and just doing admin work and blah blah blah do you think that drinking there's something about drinking that formulates ideas in my head that don't seem to want to be there without drinking like there's times when drinking like bumps you or shoves you into an area of thought where you're laughing about something that maybe you wouldn't have laughed about or you have like what is like for conversation it's like one of the greatest things for conversation when you're out with some friends and you're drinking whiskey and you're like two drinks in and everyone's laughing and then someone just goes why is this a thing and then it's like i know that's coming from his mind i know it's all coming from our minds but there's a there's a part of your mind that opens up when you're drinking yep i mean i think yeah i feel like you can make certain connections or observations about social things as well when you're drinking but obviously like it loosens people up to be more themselves yeah they're like they don't they're not as aware of what they're doing they're not as self-conscious they're not as protective you know they're gonna be more open i i love that about like i love going to the bar and like talking to the person who's sitting next to me right i like meeting people at the bar like inside i would have never done this in vancouver inside yolita i just go out by myself because i mean it's a small community so i know lots of people and i know if i go to the bar i'm probably gonna see a friend but even if i don't like i'll just go sit at the bar and like the person next to me will start talking
to me and i'll be cool and i'll learn something and they'll be interesting and that's so not the culture and i would have felt so embarrassed to go to a bar by myself like men did that in vancouver men go set up bars by themselves but to be a woman and go sit at a bar by themselves like right it's get you're gonna feel awkward and stupid and embarrassed everyone in vancouver is so judgy too but and you'll feel like people assume you want to be hit on or you're desperate you have no friends and it's not like i like it i genui i have friends and i like being by myself i like going out to eat by myself it sounds like you're in a great community yeah it sounds like it's perfect for you and people aren't people are not like people don't care what your politics are nobody knew what i did or who i was there for until i did your podcast and they couldn't hide it anymore that i was a bigot but it was so it was really beautiful because i you know i had been so ostracized in vancouver because of the gender identity stuff like i i mean for people don't know because i'm critical of gender identity and i don't think men can become women and i want to protect women's rights um and protect kids you know people in vancouver a lot of people just ghosted me some people said i can't hang out with you anymore you can't come to my birthday party because my friend hates you because she thinks you're a transphobe like friends of friends who don't know me at all would basically bully my friends into not hanging out with me um and i was so angry i was a little bit hurt but more just like [ __ ] you you [ __ ] [ __ ] like you know it's so that is so disrespectful like it's you don't disagree with me you don't dislike me but you don't you're worried about what your friends will think and so you're like and and they behaved as though i was causing trouble
in their lives because they would end up in these arguments with their friends or you know in a position where they were being asked to defend me um or being asked to condemn me and it made things stressful for them and they blamed me so they would be like you know this is you're making things really hard for me and i'm like i'm not doing anything um but in celita like i so i did your podcast and i came back and everybody was just like really proud of me like it didn't matter what i said and a lot of people agreed with me maybe some people didn't they were like good for you that you did a really good job like they're so sweet people agree with you in silence yeah they agree with you in hushed tones and whispers you know they they'll say it at the water cooler when no one's around like she's [ __ ] she's got a point about certain things like especially when it comes to like athletic competition this is one that's dividing the country right now it's like this this thing where someone can decide or identify as a woman and compete against biological women and it turns out the the the standards that you have to achieve to to do that are different everywhere right it's different with the olympics it's different with certain organizations won't accept trans athletes certain ones will certain ones you you all you have to do is identify you don't have to have any proof of what you're doing and it's just especially when it comes to like high school sports and college sports like you are now competing with someone who's trying to get a scholarship and if someone is an elite athlete so say if a woman is an elite athlete in a certain sport and she has [ __ ] been grinding it out her whole life and then some biological male comes along and identifies as a woman and then a year later is competing against women and has almost supernatural advantages and this is what we're seeing and it doesn't make you a bigot to say that this is what's so [ __ ] up about this whole thing it's
like you can be an open-minded compassionate person who also sees the truth and where the rubber hits the road in my eyes is when there's clear classifications of male or female in sports it's a great example there's a clear classification the men don't compete against the women because they have an advantage we ass we we agree to that from the beginning and we've always known that because otherwise these categories wouldn't exist and women wouldn't have sports if we didn't know that and we didn't decide if women are going to play sports competitively if women are going to compete they have to have their own category because they can't compete against men they'll lose yeah it's not fair that's it's that simple it's not fair and i don't know what the solution is and i don't think it's necessarily that the trans person should have to compete as a man um i don't think that's the answer either i don't think there's enough trans people for trans people to compete as trans people like all like to win a trans division i don't think i don't think that's the solution either i i don't know what the solution is but i do know that there's rules when it comes to competition one of the rules is you can't take performance-enhancing drugs right like if you're a person and you want to compete in in certain sports they blood test you they'll they'll vote test you they'll make sure that you're not doing anything well if you're uh let's say if you're a female to male transgender person right so you're a trans man and you want to be competing with other men we really don't hear about that and we're really not upset at that like no one no one's complaining about that happening right but if that person did want to complain here's what they would say this person has exogenous testosterone that's not derived from human beings it's derived from wild yams okay so we do a carbon isotope i think that's what it is it's called it's some it's a more complicated test it's not just recognizing the levels of the test it's recognizing where the testosterone comes from we have synthetic testosterone in your system
that's absolutely illegal well if you have synthetic estrogen in your system is that okay and how much testosterone are you allowed to have because there's a guy named derek who runs this uh youtube show more plates more dates and he was going over thresholds because he was talking about that woman the swimmer from uh leah thomas and he was going over thresholds he's like the thresholds that like where in certain sports where they test and they say okay you can compete as a woman are like way higher than most women are exactly exactly i mean it's so you can still compete as a woman yeah but if you were a woman you were on steroids they wouldn't let you compete yeah this is my point it's like something's off like it's not this is not fair it's but and it has nothing to do with someone's identity like if you it's not your identity doesn't matter it's it's also it's i don't want to change that i don't want to affect what your name is or what your pronouns are any of that [ __ ] i don't care i'm just saying in this thing we have to recognize this is not it's not boom you're a woman abracadabra it's not a magic wand there's some [ __ ] gray area and if you don't want to admit that if you want you you want to pretend that that doesn't exist well now we're in a cult now we're ideologically bound to these ideas where you can't even discuss like there's a lot of people you can't discuss reality and you can't tell the truth exactly but it's you can't ask questions yes you can't say it can you discuss it okay the solution is that if you're male you have to compete in the male category and if you're female you have to compete in the female category there's no other solution the idea of creating a trans category would be fine in theory but there's not enough trans people for that to make sense and it like my opinion is that if you want to be an athlete if you want to compete then you make a decision about whether or not you want to take hormones yeah and if you're taking hormones you can't compete just like everybody else like it's you can be trans if you want but that might take you out of the competition so you choose what's more
important to you and i'm not i'm not saying that to be mean but there's no other solution if you're a male if you've gone through puberty you have an advantage your body is totally different like i just interviewed um taylor silverman who is that a skateboarder a female skateboarder and she lost first place to a so-called trans woman um so a male who is identifying as a woman and she it was a red bull contest and she contacted red bull privately like she wasn't trying to make a big show of anything she's like a wonderful young woman she's like super articulate super respectful super smart um and she's not like making a ton of money off of skateboarding she's 27 years old she's not gonna be doing this forever she's she spoke out because she felt it wasn't fair and and what she told she was like you know this might affect if i have kids one day it might affect my daughter like this doesn't really affect me that much she contacted red bull privately and said hey this happened i don't think this is fair like this you know i lost out on two thousand dollars like i should have been in first place a bunch of other stuff red bull totally ignored her so she posted on social media she got a ton of traction a ton of attention and a ton of support and it's like you maybe some people think about skateboarding and they're like well what advantage does a man have over a woman in skateboarding but like your hips move differently like you're jumping you're like i don't skateboard so i'm not going to explain this as well as somebody escape but you know there are advantages and differences in all sorts of subtle ways as well as in very obvious ways when we're talking about sports like track swimming mma like jesus christ like you're beating people up well that's where i came into the conversation yeah when that thing was happening where there was a trans woman who was a male for 30 years who was only transitioned within the last two years and was not telling anybody and saying that it was a medical issue so she fought two different women that were biological females and beat the [ __ ] out of them and that that's when i stepped in i was like you're out of your [ __ ] mind this is crazy because i've been
around martial arts my whole life there's a giant difference there's a giant difference two men and women the big one is power the difference is so stark it's so different like if you got a powerful person like someone who's a really hard striker like a tyron woodley if tyron woodley transitioned to be female how how much are you going to deplete him where it's not the most ruthless execution every time he steps into the cage disgusting because there's just a difference he's too big for most women he's 170 pounds he could be he was one of the best welterweight champions in the fc but if someone was like smaller like 135 pounds like there's women that can beat men don't make no mistake about it and we we talked about it do you mean like a woman who's skilled could beat a man who's not no women in mma jermaine durandemy is a multiple-time world kickboxing champion muay thai champion she was ufc featherweight champion she's a [ __ ] savage and she fought a man in a boxing match how big is she like how tall she's tall she's very tall i believe she's like 5 11 and real long and very wiry and strong and she's a phenomenal striker okay so is that like about you want to see it skill yeah totally watch your knocks i'm like oh i'm really into mma now i mean i know that i don't know because i text you and i'm like okay why did this person win i'm a big fan of her she's got a lightning bolt right hand so she's fighting a dude and the dude is not on her level definitely not on her level but he's still a [ __ ] dude she's awesome and look i mean he's cl he hit her with a big [ __ ] shot there she's clubbed her in the break dude she's a demon you gotta watch her fight she uh she has like one of the the most technical stand-up games in all of mma today she's really good on her feet really good look at that right hand and so this dude is just she's awesome like she's like in there like she's yeah she's good so watch it here keep no no you almost had it you almost had to where the ko is okay this is it right here it goes into
this corner to this yeah that's when they're going to go to this corner on the left and that's where the ko happens but it's really crazy because the guy was hurting her i mean he was really like here it is one two three and watch this watch this perfect right hand because the dude's swarming on her right and as soon as they break feet bam dude i mean that is [ __ ] picture perfect that dude got wrecked i mean but amazing but that's the kind of thing why did she get to fight a dude how did this happen it's not in america where is that he was in holland and was it like she was like i want to fight a dude or how did you know yeah she knew what was good she just said i'll [ __ ] [ __ ] you up [ __ ] yeah so she agreed to fight a guy but that also happened with one of the great women boxers of the 80s and 90s this woman named lucia ryker and lucia reicher was also a world muay thai champion and she was the most dangerous female boxer for years and they were always trying to set her up with christy martin remember christy martin the coal miner's daughter she was like a face okay uh-huh did she she wrote a book or an autobiography or something like that did you i think you're thinking of the singer what's that woman saying i'm thinking of a singer no i'm thinking of a boxer i just i'm thinking daughter oh my god yeah that's not what i'm thinking of that's okay anyways clearly i don't know what this is but isn't there original song uh well i would imagine she's singing and i'm not sure who that is i don't want to double down on this because it's not what i was thinking of a boxer yeah it wasn't martin who wrote a book so this was my point they never they never fought but everybody always felt like lucia reicher was the better boxer like people that were martial arts enthusiasts and boxers they thought that lucia reicher was the woman the one to beat so she fought a dude but she got knocked out and it's rough because it's the same sort of situation see if you can find that i mean you're writing all kinds of things would be the things where people like well yeah i guess women can compete again against men so
why are we keeping transition but this is an exception she's an outlier of all outliers she's a i mean jermaine durandame is a multiple-time world champion she's elite like when i watch her hit the pads it's like i could just wow it's like beautiful i got bang bang like everything is smooth when she's moving in it's like you're watching a [ __ ] executioner it's beautiful to watch but that's an outlier that's the that's the top of the food chain yeah that's literally right here world champion yeah everybody else is [ __ ] because lucia riker was a world champion and the guy that she fought was not he was just not he was okay but he was no way was he in the level that she was look at this and that's lucille right and she gets uh she gets cracked somewhere in there it's this is a muay thai fight that's right and she gets uh she gets ko'd and as a woman she was just one actually this dude's a lot better than i give him credit for she's so intense the dude is a lot better than i give credit for it i'm thinking it's something different here i might have confused this there it is right there there it is there it is ah she gets ko'd that guy's a lot better than i thought he was you know i think i lost i think when i first saw this i was probably upset that he knocked her out and i probably disparaged his his skill that way you shouldn't know when she's better but that was a beautiful left hand i'm definitely and another one that was yeah i mean that guy's good what do you do you think that the guy is like how do how often does this happen where men and women very rarely yeah that's an example they probably both weigh the same weight but the amount of power that that guy had like that left it's funny because she looks bigger than him i mean maybe she's taller she's also wearing a t-shirt she looks bigger and like tougher than he does like he looks tiny but maybe that's just because you expect men to be bigger this is [ __ ] um grain footage right it's not that good oh so he's a thais versus he yeah is from new zealand i mean but people people do like people who defend
like trans women being able to compete against women in sport do use these like random examples where it's like you know well so-and-so can't is faster or so-and-so beat so-and-so but it's like that's not common and and to me like the sports thing is so great and interesting because it reaches every normal person who was not engaged in the debate around gender and identity which was primarily for so long it really was like i don't think people knew this but it was really it was radical feminist like janice raymond wrote a book about transgenderism and how it was like dangerous to women and women's rights in 1979 what yes it's called the transsexual empire i didn't know and it's a good book it's interesting i didn't know that it was that big of a political issue back then and then like gloria steinem in this late 70s i think said um something critical about there was like a a tennis player a male tennis player richard they used to call them okay i think you're right i'm really bad with names so i apologize oh yeah the coal miner's daughter won the transition yeah yeah that was a famous story and she was critical gloria steinem was critical of that publicly you know she was critical of this idea of transgenderism like she was like you shouldn't change to fit the gender stereotypes of the world you should i'm fully paraphrasing this is not she said she had something critical she retracted in later years because she was bullied into it but you know this debate was happening in the late 70s and 80s and radical feminists were like not having it at all like it's only recently that all these so-called feminists started to come around and say trans women are women and even then the radical feminists are the ones that have been fighting this for so long julie bendel who is a uk journalist wrote an article in 2004 for the guardian about what happened at vancouver rape relief which is a it's a rape crisis line and a transition
house for women escaping domestic abuse and a trans woman kimberly nixon came to uh training for counselors like so counselors who were there at the house like working with women who were escaping serious domestic abuse and sexual assault and the women who were doing the training were like you know sorry you're a man only women are allowed to train as counselors here they only had women employees volunteers only women are allowed in the house um and kimberly nixon took them to court to the human rights tribunal vancouver rape early went all the way to the supreme court and won um they won the right to determine their own membership they didn't win you know trans women are men um and julie bindle wrote about that case in 2004 like radical feminists were trying to warn people about what was happening and what was going to happen if we allowed this to go on and nobody listened and now it's like almost too late and you know whatever this is how things go and nobody listens to radical feminists this is like a very marginal political movement yeah um but like it's it's very frustrating to me because now we're seeing i don't want to categorize people because you know i was going to say right-wing men but i like a lot of right-wing men there's a lot of right-wing people who are great um a lot of people who really do care about women's rights but we're seeing some right-wing men like showing up online and being like where are all the feminists on this issue how come i'm the only person brave enough to say that men aren't women and to speak up and it's like dude we have been trying to be heard i couldn't get anything published on this like when bill c-16 canada's gender identity legislation showed up um the liberals were trying to push it through in 2016. i pitched everywhere to say these are my concerns with regard specifically to the impact on women's rights these are the issues i have with this ideology i think it's regressive i think
it's sexist i think it's dangerous um nobody would publish anything like the canadian media would not have me on they would not interview me every single event that we tried to plan we'd you know get threatened the venues would pull out this happened in the uk this happened in the u.s um it you know i just i'm so grateful that i had my own platform on my own website so that i could write about this stuff and so that i could interview women who were doing work on this issue and interview people who were experts um because otherwise i wouldn't i don't know where i would have said any of this stuff like we finally pushed and pushed and pushed to host talks and that forced the media to cover it a bit but like i don't know why i started complaining about this except that it makes me really mad that's why i don't know who i was talking to about this but the conversation essentially was we this person i was talking to whoever it was i forgive them forgive me please uh she was saying that the problem becomes a lot of people that are women who have these groups that are dedicated just to women and then a trans woman will come in these groups and behave like a man and and bring like a man's attitude to this thing and she's like it's specific and it's not discussed so it's this thing that happens where they start acting male for lack of a better term so like she was talking about taking over things running things like being like very outspoken and aggressive with their opinions about things and in almost an intimidating way yeah a way like a man does it yeah there was a [ __ ] um anti-abortion or anti-um a pro-choice rally and uh this trans woman was screaming with the deepest voice keep your laws out of my [ __ ] oh my god it was so wild and that's just like domineering behavior like i don't it was they weren't even trying to hide i mean it was such a masculine voice well and that's i'm like i'm like i don't believe that you believe it like
those i'm like you don't think you're a woman give me a break you're just being a bully that might be like a louder with crowder sketch yeah i mean a lot of it seems like satire and it's hard to tell which is satire which is real it's very hard to tell that's the problem is that things are getting blurry and but i do i think a lot of men you know identify as women or trans women specifically so that they can act like bullies not all of them some people just want to be themselves and that's fine go be yourself i don't care but like so that you can insert yourself into spaces in conversation and take over i think that the kind of men who identify as women or trans women who go into women's change rooms or bathrooms or like the there was that guy at the spa yeah in l.a l.a you know i think that they're they want to make women feel uncomfortable you know that you're making women feel you're parading around naked in a change room in a women's change room or at like a woman only spa you know that you're making people feel uncomfortable and you're doing it anyway like you're an [ __ ] and you're a pervert well you can't say that well i'm you can't say that or you'll get that from twitter you're gonna get you're gonna get in trouble but sorry i hope i don't get you trouble unhinged a hairy armpit individual with green hair chance keep your laws out of my [ __ ] is that it uh i don't believe so okay i bet there was more of those oh this is a there's a lot like a real woman that's i couldn't tell that could be a woman that does crossfit all right she doesn't look in that good shape or he no she does it but if she's an overweight woman who does a lot of overhead presses it's possible that's a woman there are some women who look manish in the mma for example up to a [ __ ] school but you can tell yeah up to a level you sit up next to yoel romero you know who's the [ __ ] woman i i find it hilarious that when trans activists pretend that nobody can tell like oh well you probably had trans women in your bathroom your whole life you didn't know and it's like everybody knows you know who a man is you know a
woman is like there's very few that like are sort of ambiguous but for the most part it's obvious and sometimes it's not even oh would you like some more racia just last sip no you okay you're not gonna try okay that's okay you can try it another time um this is this is actually good i don't it's good um anyway but the thing is you can't even have that on the table when you leave when you have an open door right you say all you have to do is identify and then you could be in around these people you you must open the door to the possibility the perverts are going to go in there if you want to pretend that to be trans excludes the pop the possibility of you being a pervert that's crazy it's totally possible that someone could say they identify as trans i'm not saying that people are doing this i'm saying it's totally possible this must be considered and people have been you know people have been assaulted you know biological males have gone into females bathrooms and assaulted them it's does it's it's a [ __ ] up individual more than it is indicative of trans people overall it's not a yeah it's not about tran i'm not saying like it's about trans people being predators it's about some human males some male humans who are predators and use that as a way to get away with it there was also something i forget who told me this too it might have been bridget uh autogynophilia mm-hmm yes this is what when i say pervert or when i say fetishist like i know it sounds offensive like if i'm like these men are men with fetishes like men who there's research on this men who transition when they're younger tend to be gay men um i think it's ray blanchard that did this research um tend to be gay men and men who transition when they're older middle-aged uh tend to be heterosexual men with fetishes with like what might be called cross-dressing fetishes like they're turned on by wearing women's clothes and by the idea of wearing women's clothes in public um and by the idea of like passing as a woman obviously none of
them passes women but that it's a fetish and it's called autogonophilia and you know a lot of people have talked about this being part of the reason that transgenderism became mainstream became part of the lgbtq activism stuff um and why they attach themselves to this born this way mantra like some people are just born trans and why this idea of trans kids exists like some kids are just born in the wrong body and some some babies are assigned male and in fact they're girls because these guys wanted to legitimize their fetishes and their preferred identities so they had to pretend that it was something innate they had to push this narrative that it was something innate that it wasn't just about them you know having this fetish for women how could you know that though how could you know that some people aren't born and they feel like they're in the wrong body like some boys who are born and they feel like i sh i'm supposed to be a girl doesn't matter so you feel like you're supposed to be a girl you're not your boy like so what like i know i think that for some people then it's a it's a mental illness and we're not allowed to say that like if you're amazing is it absolutely a mental illness here's the question if someone is born male but they feel in every fiber there being that they're supposed to be a woman and they're healthy every other way how is that really mental illness or is there some wiring that should be male and is female some some not understood mechanism that makes someone feel like they're a woman or feel like they're a boy okay so mental condition then don't call it mental illness call it a mental condition like if you're a male and you feel certain that you're actually supposed to be female you wanna you hate your male body parts so much to such an extent that you cannot live comfort comfortably you have to get rid of them and and to be clear go ahead and do that you're an adult you have the right to
get cosmetic surgeries i think that surgeons should be more accountable and culpable and like warn people about the dangers and about the fact that they might not be able to orgasm again or it might be mangled like these are real serious dangerous surgeries but you know that's a mental condition just like if you were a man and you believed so strongly like there's those people that get like you know lizard you know they get like bone like what are those implants in their foreheads and they like have you ever seen them get rid of their noses yeah black alien project have you seen him lately jamie he chopped off two of his fingers to try to emulate what he believes would be an alien claw so in one of his hands he only has two fingers and i think he's going to do it to the other hand too what is that and now he's also uh implanted all these beads all over his arm so he has like a spiral of beads over his arm like what is that look at his writing what is this like would somebody do this look what he's doing to his arm he's turning himself into like an alien like this should be like whoever whatever surgeon is doing this to him i think is unethical it's really did he chop off his top finger too or he tucking it in oh there he is yeah you know he's got two fingers on one hand but like look at this everything about him do you think this person was traumatized as a child something happened yeah you know what's interesting there's photos of him when he was younger before he got all this stuff done and he's a good looking guy it's like what he's doing is like really bizarre like he was like gifted by nature with great genetics look it's got his eyeballs tattooed yeah this is what i was talking about the nose thing like he's like yeah he's got his nose removed yeah he just has an open hole yeah where his nose used to be it's so crazy like that's what he looks like and is this because he [ __ ] believes that he's actually an alien or he just body modification project i believe he's he i think he speaks spanish is that what it is yeah
yeah he speaks spanish um so it's you have to i feel like this person must have severe childhood trauma something's up i mean that is they've got his ears removed too oh jesus christ that is so crazy okay but i mean that's so goddamn crazy so those cuts on the side must be where they put those brow implants lord holy [ __ ] doing this to this man a lot of people i bet yeah i mean that's the other thing oh there go work by my bro all right let's check out your bro oh look guys get his tongue split oh jesus christ no what is that i don't even know what the what bone that is is that someone's back what is that what are we looking at what is it what does it say up there fresh works it says genital implants no no no why are we looking no no god damn it we're looking at a dick this whole time oh go back go back to that it says it's a dick oh my god so you only see the top of the deck so it's like side dick skin look how great that guy's got a hairy ass dick yeah i want to pluck those hair son look at that i thought that was like his back do you think that he's having sex with people i bet that shit's gonna hurt i bet there's not that many people well there's probably other weirdos who are like i want to have sex with an alien they have dick butt plugs it's like a butt plug that's what it is he's turning his dick into a butt plug so it's got all those like hunts oh that's what it is it's like beads you know people use anal beads men not for women it's for butts it might be for women yeah no women don't like anal sex and this is a pill that i'm gonna die on women don't have a prostate like men and some women are so stupid about this thing because they're like i like anal sex what the [ __ ] man that's the bottom of that what is happening here he's got his eyeballs tattooed but it looks like oh
they're dead oh my gosh wild colors that is awful it looks good it's crazy it looks cool for now i wonder where you're at i think this qualifies as self-harm like i think it's the same concept but way more extreme of like cutting well the thing about this one is this doesn't turn back you can't turn that around nope once you get your eyeballs tattooed your eyeballs are tattooed forever that's crazy yeah it's just like people are doing things to themselves and you know whoa look at that girl oh my god i mean i think a lot of this kind of thing is like trauma and then it's like attention and wanting to feel special and wanting wait a minute that guy would split tongue right there hold on go back that one right there what the [ __ ] oh my god jesus christ that is how do you think these people make a living starbucks baristas they're queer activists oh that was mean oh god um sometimes i mean i'm saying all this while i'm covered in tattoos my arms are sleeved up yeah but i feel like tattoos i mean that's cross-cultural like people have always done that kind of thing i like tattoos i just don't lots of eyeballs done and [ __ ] bolts put in your head um but so to to go back to that we were talking about if someone feels like they've been a girl their whole life doesn't make them actually a girl so you so where does that where should that preclude them from sports should preclude them from women's bathrooms like i think it should preclude them from competing against and with women in sport um i think i mean i don't know i mean the bathroom thing's funny because i don't know that they're like i feel like you know like if you're a man you don't go into women's bathrooms you
don't want to make women feel scared or uncomfortable um unless you do unless you're unless you do that's what you're trying to do i don't think this is such a complicated issue as people are making it out to be i think everybody knows what bathroom they should go into uh prisons if you're male you've got to stay in the male prison you cannot be transferred to the female person how are you going to get anybody pregnant exactly if you're not you'll get your heads for you two women gonna have babies it's not hilarious that one biological male got two women pregnant you're like so like here's the question if you're a biological male and say you've transitioned and you want to be identified as a female and go to a female prison if you get arrested are you do you have to take estrogen no so you could just stop taking estrogen i don't think you have to do anything i think you just have to identify as a woman and like apply and say i'm a woman what a wacky move because because you can keep your dick and all your hormones and everything totally fully keep your chest just slinging dick all over the cell block well and in canada like i know i've talked to women who have been in prison with men and they are there are sexual assaults that have gone on in women's prisons perpetrated by men and obviously how long have they been allowed them to do that to go to women's prisons i don't know when it started exactly but at least a few years um and now obviously it's getting worse because this is like been further entrenched in the law so how did that happen do you think this is what's really interesting it's not just uh acceptance it's a celebration and like a um a societal shaming of people who question it and talk about it like this is not a you know like there's people that are shitty people they're they don't like people for whatever reason whether they don't like gay people they don't like trans people they don't like all kinds
of people but we're not i'm not even talking about that i'm talking about like just there's a mantra that almost you have to say like trans women are women and you say that and so if you don't say that and you even discuss it if you talk about things like hey you know that swimmer was number 462 with the men and now she's number one as a woman like maybe that's not fair like maybe if that was your kid going to that school you wouldn't think it's fair people would [ __ ] blow up at you they'll get mad at you there's a certain amount of people that feel like this is their their chance to show their loyalty to this ideology and they'll argue it like in a in a very aggressive way and it's it's interesting because like how many people are we talking about like how many people are is this actually affecting where the discussion has gone through the entire culture it's really interesting in that way like so what happened and what what rocketed that to the position that it's in now i mean the prison issue specifically i believe that was just about the canadian government not wanting to deal with this problem and they're like okay sure fine they're doing because in canada they you know the canadian government will not discuss or acknowledge that this is really happening nor will the canadian media you know there are women women who are ex-inmates who are fighting this um and some you know women you know radical feminists who are fighting this but the canadian government will not engage with them or not acknowledge i mean essentially they've determined that protecting you know protecting themselves from controversy protecting themselves from being you know attacked by trans activists or criticized or whatever they're just gonna let this happen and who cares what the result is for the women in prison who are having to share their cells with men who are impregnating them it's crazy yeah i mean they're just they're being
completely cowardly and completely unethical but it's so weird that that's made its way into law enforcement like that's what's weird to me and even the military like i've seen and and i've seen a lot of like special forces guys and neo and navy seals and some like high level guys that are super upset with this super upset with this what's happening in the military wokeness making its way in woke language making its way into the military and they're like hey we're in the business like tim kennedy said this he said we are in the business of killing bad guys and anything that gets in the way of killing bad guys is not it's not something we're going to tolerate like they they're just not interested like you can't have that get to that level you have like these special forces guys who have to do these insane operations under extreme pressure very high likelihood of death and you can't have any [ __ ] there you have to have the the best trained most qualified everything has to be accurate everybody has to form as a unit you can't have any [ __ ] there and if you've got some ideological [ __ ] like you have to say this we have to have a certain amount of people that are that and there's like no no not there because that's the that's the place where literal life or death is in the balance and you cannot be thinking about that nonsense like imagine you know how hard buds is for navy seals it's like one of the most extreme tests that any military organization puts on a member it's a if you can become a navy seal you are a highly distinguished human being who can do some things that most people can't do in terms of like your will your your ability to force your way through situations that are extremely difficult and uncomfortable you can't say with that we're going to lighten up our expectations because we like to have some trans seals yeah it cannot be about inclusivity right it has to be only a meritocracy it has to only be the people that can [ __ ] do it yeah you know what a strange place for like
wokeness to be inserted it's bizarre that it's discussed in the military but they have discussed it they've discussed all kinds of like woke talk and and people are pushing back against it because they're surprised that it was there but you guys still [ __ ] hired killers you guys are the hired killers of the government and you're talking woke ridiculous but it's so interesting to me how it's accelerated and what douglas murray always talks about that for some reason when a civilization is near the end they become obsessed with gender yeah i mean it's partly an obsession with gender and then hedonism i think hedonism like i think that it's like i i really i don't like using the word privilege because it's overused and it's used in the sort of weird ways to shut down conversation and to silence people and things like that but i think it's like too much privilege like you don't have enough real problems that you're worrying about people's gender identities like it's so stupid it's not real life it's just invented ideology like academic ideology um i think that it's like and i think that it's indulging in again fetishes like a lot of these they call themselves trans widows so women who have had husbands that have decided to transition while they're married um and i've talked to some of these women and their stories are really heartbreaking um you know and in those cases their stories are often like these guys start acting really like teenagery and like get super narcissistic and like all of a sudden you know they get really superficial they're into clothes they want all the attention did you just say kardashian no i want all the attention interesting because that's i was like that's caitlyn jenner yeah exactly i know i i don't know my theory about caitlyn jenner is like all these chicks are getting all this attention like and caitlyn jenner like i don't know if you watched did you watch the kardashians a little bit i used it it was amazing how they would mock him
when he would always just be like alone in a room upstairs watching tv they would all be like doing their thing and having fun without him well you know ultimately in the end it seems like he's happier this way she's funny she's happier she's happier this way you say she okay she's um you know she seems happier and she is getting a lot of attention i mean you want to talk about a titanic shift in attention i mean it's a monstrous difference between like pre-transition and now there's a giant difference like all sudden like a center figure in culture i mean and he is also one of those people who like he's talked about like trying on his like daughter's clothing like he's an autogonophile also which is fine i mean do whatever but like and but he's funny because he's like anti-woke yeah and he's kind of critical of trans activism well definitely critical of transgender athletes in sports and wants to protect children yeah it's similar to what you said yeah yeah i mean he doesn't literally think he's a female this is how he wants to live his life and he feels better that way and fine yeah but like he did he started off trying on women's clothing and being turned on by it and then would like wear pantyhose under his pants and yeah don't tell anybody i'm being naughty exactly here's the thing about wearing pantyhose under your pants who the [ __ ] wants to wear pantyhose pantios are disgusting women don't wear pantyhose i know this that drove me crazy too when i read that i was like i was like nobody wears pantyhose like kill me to make me wear like i don't like gross yeah you don't wear pantyhose unless are uh you're acting out some sort of a weird thing with your significant other when you pretend to be a secretary you're role-playing right right can't get you something sir i don't know i've never done that before no you never role played
oh god i would i would like laugh yeah i did that i can't i can't take myself seriously in that kind of scenario and be like i feel stupid i mean karaoke yeah that is a sign of wanting to be naughty right if you're rampant but isn't it also a sign it's like the guys who i worked at like a video store in the arts or whatever and this guy would come in sometimes at night with a leather motorcycle jacket on and then like flash who's wearing lingerie underneath whoa it's exhibitionism fetishism maybe autogadophilia but it's isn't it also like they connect pantyhose with being a woman and if you wish you were a woman maybe that's something you would be attracted to wearing like yeah they have all these weird things kristen beck used to be a navy seal transitioned oh yeah you just yeah yeah and uh when kristen was on the podcast she actually talked about what that was like when she was first transitioning and she showed up at work with like big nails on and wearing a dress and everybody was like what the [ __ ] is going on like out of the blue yep out of the blue she just decided to go for it and then said look i'm the same person and talks in the same voice it's really wild right but then it's settled down and now is basically dresses i don't want to say like asexual but like a flannel shirt which like a lot of women will wear final shirts jeans a lot of women wore jeans wasn't anything like definitely masculine or feminine about the way yeah i mean a lot of these men who transition to become women have these weird super old-fashioned stereotypes about what a woman is and what women dress like like i in vancouver mostly wore giant men's flannel shirts and like big men's boots and like jeans or like i wear like dirty converse and tube socks almost every day right so you could be transitioning yeah maybe i'm a boy if this was around when i was a kid like
maybe i would have thought i was a boy because i was like a tomboy like i hated pink i didn't want to wear dresses i didn't want to do girl things i wanted to play with he-man i like cut my hair short i wanted to hang out with the boys that's a problem that people are worried about with children that children are so malleable you know and some people they don't think you should be worried about it at all and they think you know you should allow people to discuss anything and everything with your child when it comes to gender when it comes to sexual identity all those things say whatever you want sexual orientation talk about it with the kids talk about it with the kids and other people like what the [ __ ] are you talking about you're supposed to be teaching history you know and it it is a weird thing because children are so malleable well and also like why do teachers feel like they're the ones or feel entitled to like they're the ones who should be educating other people's children about their politics or their ideologies like this is not yours it's complex and it's also just as complex if i if my kid was going to school and there was a hardcore right-wing teacher that was telling them that all gays are evil i would i would not want that in my childhood somebody was teaching them about like the virgin mary like immaculate conception like is that okay because essentially you're teaching kids your religion like as far as i'm concerned gender identity is like a version of religion it's just an idea it's all faith-based like there's no there's no material reality there's no scientific basis for the idea that a man like you says i'm a woman oh you're a woman like what does that mean it means nothing it's all face it's like well i believe him okay so it's faith-based this is a religion and you have to believe him it can never be right someone's having a menta a mel uh mental issue yeah maybe gender dysphoria is even offensive to some people they don't even like the term gender dysphoria but that was a legitimate psychological term that they used to classify people that were having this issue
right i mean now to be trans you don't have to have so-called gender dysphoria i sort of think that terms imperfect myself because i sort of feel like it could be argued that everyone has some form of gender dysphoria because like say like i don't identify wholly with femininity like there's parts of me that are feminine there's some like girl things that i like and there's lots of aspects of my personality that i think are kind of masculine like what i'm not nurturing at all i don't like babies i don't i've never i'm not [Laughter] down with babies i i've never wanted to have kids i've never desired it i don't really like i mean some kids are cool i don't mean like you know kids or personalities like i like some kids other ones but i'm not i don't look at a baby and i'm like i'm like got it i would rather look at a dog um i love dogs i i love dogs i um i think i'm i mean i don't i'm kind of aggressive like i'm kind of domineering like i'm i am i'm very rational that's like a stereotypically joking i'm not always very rational i mean i'm a libra so that was a joke um i think like i don't take care of my boyfriends in any way at all like they take like maybe emotionally or like you know i'm affectionate and i'm loving but i don't like cook and clean um my boyfriends tend to like take care of me more than the other way around are you a boss [ __ ] i'm not very easy it's not a good thing though being a boss [ __ ] is like a good thing lord i don't know the rappers i feel like my i'm not i'm not like the kind of chick who's like really easy going in a relationship you're a lot of work i'm pretty difficult really and you seem to celebrate that well i can't help it it's just i don't think it's always a good thing it's like i'm just i want to talk everything through i want everything to be out in the open if i'm
upset about something i cannot say it like you've probably noticed i'm not very good at not saying what i think and in a relationship that can be challenging like i feel like a lot of people i think it's a good thing i think you should be open and talk about things in a relationship but i feel like people who are able to maintain really long-term relationships and marriages often not always of course are the kinds of people who don't say everything they think and like don't feel like they need to be like i didn't like that like what's going on like i want to talk about this they're sort of like let things lie i'm not a let things lie person hmm got it so that's good if you want to be a social commentator because you're not going to bite your tongue yeah yeah and that's probably that makes sense because a lot of people don't want to experience the backlash that you've experienced for expressing your opinions on things yep yeah most people don't i mean what's interesting about like people go after you a lot people go after people like me people go after people who have platforms and share their opinions um and i don't think that they i don't i don't know if a lot of people understand that it's like it's i think it takes a certain personality to do this like you have to be able to take a lot of flack and i think that most people don't do that and you have to be the kind of person who really it's very very very important to to say what you think and to like speak openly and to tell the truth and i think what i've learned in the past few years and then doing this work is that's not what most people feel like a lot of people are content not saying what they think and not being authentic and not being honest like that's not a need for them and for me it's a need like i would feel i don't feel like i could function if i wasn't able to like fully be myself i know what you're saying yeah well that's i mean people have very specific personality traits that make them more effective at different
jobs and for what you do it's a perfect personality for that job but i know what you're saying you know in terms of you you you are you know you're not necessarily like all the way feminine but no one that's not gender dysphoria i mean this is such a different thing than someone who really does think they're a man who happens to have a vagina i totally agree with you like i've never been i i've never been confused about whether i'm a woman or not my argument is that the term because gender people mess up gender and sex all the time like sex when i'm talking about sex i'm just talking about biology you know whether you're you have a male or a female body to me when i'm talking about gender i'm talking about like sex stereotypes so masculinity and femininity and those stereotypes that i was talking about before like uh you know women are supposedly like nurturing and delicate and emotional and irrational and men are and some of these are true because of evolution like to a certain extent there's patterns but people are not black and white you know men are domineering violent rational aggressive um [Music] what else is there they like to jerk off during zoom meetings has that have any women been caught masturbating i do not think so i don't think so i don't think so that's what's wild right why are men more perverted than women um testosterone for sure yeah for sure i think i mean i don't know i've never been a woman not yet it has to be not yet at least stuff and you never know never know it could happen um but i think it's testosterone i think it makes like if you think about it's connected to aggression and sexuality right so there's not much in a woman that's connected to uh being horny but also to being aggressive testosterone is really the only thing that does both of those things so do you think that it's like men have like more of an uncontrollable sexual urge i would have no idea okay you know i have to guess it's clearly a spectrum because there's men that aren't
interested in sex at all and there's men that are horny all the time and it's the same with women that's true yeah i know i actually get really mad when people talk about like men have a high sexual libido and women have a low sexual libido and that and then that plays into this like kind of gatekeeping role that women are supposed to play like women have sexual power because they can choose not to have sex with a man and it's like women like to have sex too like i don't want to choose to not have sex with a man i want to have sex with a man like i'm a heterosexual woman i also desire sex like i don't want to be in this role where i'm saying no to something that i actually want to do yeah but it's also it's not like it's a one-way street and yeah and there are it's there's i like i have friends who've had boyfriends who like didn't feel like having sex almost ever yeah yeah that's an issue yeah it happens it's like with everything there's just a lot of variables whenever you generalize like that and men want this and women want that like what [ __ ] men what women well and it's like do you talk to people in real life because i talk to a lot of people in real life and people are diverse they really are they really are and that's the problem with things like the left and the right is that when you get into an ideology and you're in a tribe i'm in the tribe of the left and so i have to subscribe to all the same things that these people subscribe to you know i have to take on all their notions that i think are ridiculous i have to say it without any questioning i have to repeat the mantra yeah that's what's going on and you have to use the exact right language and the language changes all the time yeah like yeah but and okay but so the gender thing i feel like i was trying to finish a thought like so when i'm talking about gender i'm talking about those stereotypes about men and women right that are like really just personality traits often you know some women are more aggressive and less nurturing some women are super nurturing and you know delicate and
emotional or whatever but so the term gender dysphoria i think bothers me just because of that because it sounds to me then like you're just identifying with these gender stereotypes which should be fine like you should be able to you know identify with whatever personality traits you identify with you should be able to like whatever clothes you like like if you're a man and you want to wear a dress and you don't feel very masculine or you don't have a high sex drive or you don't want to like fight that's fine like be whoever you want to be i agree with like i think gender dysphoria refers to something different which is a very very strong overwhelming desire to actually be the opposite sex or you know to get rid of your sex body parts what do you think those caused this massive uptick in the public's understanding discussion of it like when did this become something that's on the front line i mean it's so weird because all of the gender identity legislation was sort of presented and passed around the same time like it seemed like everything happened simultaneously at once in a lot of countries like canada australia new zealand the uk the us um and i i don't know exactly how that went down but i think those activists like the trans activists were very well organized i think that part of it you know other people have theorized around this so these are not my ideas coming out of nowhere but um you know once gay marriage was won there wasn't much for these lgbt organizations to do and fight for anymore so there's no reason for them to get funding so they latched onto the trans rights thing so that they could continue it to exist people could keep their jobs you know so they could continue to get funding um because i don't know where do you go with the gay rights fight now in canada and america like there's not that much to fight for anymore that's sort of been one right marriage is legal discrimination is illegal
yeah you can't fire somebody from their job for being gay and yeah public acceptance is much higher i have a friend who's gay thinks that a lot of the transgender movement is homophobic it is homophobic but it's weird like i mean like in one way it's like well if you don't identify if you don't believe in in males and females you don't you don't believe there's a distinction he was like then what about gay men men who are absolutely attracted to men like are they what and and then if you're telling a lot of them that they really meant that these men are actually really females and they should just transition he's like i think that there's a homophobia attached to that i'm like okay why do you think it is i mean i i absolutely agree with that because how can you be same-sex attracted if there's no sex like gay people aren't attracted to gender they're attracted to sex like males who are gay are attracted to men with male bodies they're not attracted to women who are dressing like men or acting like men and same like lesbians have made this argument for a long time too that that trans like trans activism gender identity ideology is homophobic you're like no i'm attracted to women i love women i want to have sex with women i don't want to have sex with a man who claims to be a woman or dresses like a woman and you know lesbians have been super bullied in their own communities over this and over being critical of like trans women being welcomed into the lesbian community or being pressured to date trans women um and you know abigail schreier does a bunch of research on you know young girls are transitioning at really high rates now it used to be that more boys were transitioning now it's that more girls are transitioning and often those girls are lesbians well um i think it's not cool to be a lesbian anymore it's cool to be queer it's cool to be non-binary it's cool to be a trans boy i think what abigail's talking about she's talking about that they happen also in clusters and she thinks that there's some peer pressure involved and there's a uh i think she calls it a a social contagion
or yep yeah yeah that's right that you you get praise for wanting to transition or for transitioning the non-binary thing's the weirdest one because uh you could just jump on board it's so stupid you could just say i'm non-binary well anybody's non-binary we know this guy who's non-binary and he [ __ ] all these girls it's hilarious you're like so you're a heterosexual man then huh hustler h-u-s-d-l-e-r hustler he found the thing like that's how you get in and bang woke chicks ew i would never want to [ __ ] a non-binary man i mean maybe he's really non-binary i don't know there's no such thing as non-binary that's not a real concept what does that mean he's not a man he's not a woman that's impossible everybody is a man or a woman listen when he [ __ ] women he's not doing it as a man he's doing it that is a gender neutral penis he's doing it as a they and you have some [ __ ] respect that is gender neutral sperm it is a wild thing right that that is also like people will get as mad at you as if you [ __ ] hit a baby with a car like i don't people get real emotional about it but i mean i think i i don't i don't know why people get so emotional about this trans woman or women thing like i don't know why you as a random woman would be like because women get mad about it you know like women have gotten mad at me lots of women have gotten mad and been like trans women are women you should accept their identity and i'm like first of all this is stupid and doesn't make any sense but why do you care so much like who are you protecting what is your investment in this issue and i would tend to think that it's about presenting yourself as and thinking of yourself as a good person you're very invested in i'm a good person i'm a progressive person i'm accepting i'm inclusive i support diversity equality all those words yadda yadda but some of them really do seem like some of it i think is phony but some of these people do seem to really get enraged like enraged at me if i don't
want to use correct pronouns and it's like why like why are you so offended by this but there's also the fear of being ostracized from the group if you don't do that if you don't go along if you're you decided that you're a progressive person you don't go along with all these things you can get ostracized to the group or from oh totally i mean it's scary out there on your own because what else are you going to do you're going to be a trump supporter because like we've we've polarized god forbid that's where we polarize the country to where you are either a progressive or you're a democrat who tolerates progressives or you're a person who doesn't like the republicans you keep going further and further left like never trump you know and then a lot of those people they get lumped into this thing and you think of them only as the most radical of the people in the group the loudest which is the you know the hardcore left-wing people the antifa type people whereas on the right like if you go right what's the worst thing would they go to like the proud boys or some you know white supremacist organization that's what people think of the january six people that's what people think of so you're either with the january six people or you're with antifa right like it literally that's what it is on both sides when you get to the furthest edges it's equally crazy and it's equally crazy in these predictable adoptable patterns that these people have to subscribe to if they want to be a part of the ideology whether it's the right ideology or the left ideology either you want to throw molotov cocktails at the state house and call everybody a fascist or you want to take zip ties to the [ __ ] capitol building and look for a senator to tie up well yeah it's the same [ __ ] person they just found different ways to port that crazy out into the universe totally and i mean and the binary thinking is i mean i talked about this a bit earlier but this is what people are doing to me constantly now that i've been talking about leaving the left or not wanting to identify as left-wing like i just want to be an independent i'm not identifying
anywhere and i don't i don't plan on i don't want to categorize myself or label myself in any way so you're far right how long have you been far right like you're sounding like a trumpist like there's certain shows out there that will just immediately call you far right if you don't agree with the orthodoxy yeah and that's that's yeah what people have been doing to me and it drives me crazy i need to stop getting upset about this but i can't like i've always i always get very very upset about being misunderstood and i know i mean like you can't control that people are going to misrepresent you they're going to misunderstand you especially if you're like a public viewer just a soul whose intentions are good thank you exactly oh lord please don't let me be misunderstood yeah but you're that's part of your gift is that you you have the courage to talk about things that other people find uncomfortable and say them from an honest perspective like this is what i'm seeing this is what i don't like this is what i think and then also back it up with like other people are saying it too and this is not like this is something that they the the warning bells were rang yeah yeah it's the distinction between males and females is very weird and when it plays out in sports and in games and stuff like that i'm always fascinated by that because like there's clearly like great women athletes and like you've got your stories like jermaine duran to be knocking out that guy but where it gets weird is other games that aren't that don't involve physical strength like one of them is pool like that's interesting actually because men are more inclined towards like way more men play pool than women yeah are men actually better at pool than women yeah oh yeah a lot better i mean it seems i'm really bad at pool i'm quite good at foosball though okay well they're very different things when we talk about professional billiards yeah it's it's almost like there's
it's not as far apart as like the outlier female kickboxer knocking out the male kickboxer it's not that far apart um but no women win competitions like if they want to enter into an open like so so like say they have women's professional tournaments where women compete against women and they have uh open everything else is open so like if there's a u.s open women compete in the us open world championships women can compete against the men they can compete but they never win there's there's women out there that are very good and they're capable of winning a match like the way a pool game is played like say depending on what tournament it is it could be say a race to 10. so if we're playing nine ball if you pocket the nine ten times and i pocketed seven times you win because you made it to ten quicker you won 10 games faster okay so a woman can win in a race to 10 but they never win the whole tournament a man always winds up beating them which is odd because it's not a physical strength thing it's not there's no why would that be because that i feel like is holy skill and precision there's women that are very very very very very good but they're not as good as the world champion men i wonder why that is there must be some science behind that i think they've tried to narrow it down to an understanding of 3d space that's different for males than it is for women maybe that has something to do with testosterone um there's quite a few women that are really good that are lesbians which is interesting huh uh i don't i don't know what it is but it's one of those things it's like what if someone like identified as a woman they were elite professional pool player and they just started cleaning up in the women's division you wouldn't really have a good argument that they have an advantage because it's not a strength advantage it's not a speed advantage so what is the advantage well maybe there is one i mean i don't know what it is but there's some sext advantage the only advantage that you would ever have in strength is in the brake shot right but that's not
going to win you it's not that big of a deal a lot of people kind of soft break today they don't break that hard they break they want to like make the one ball on the side or make the corner ball and sometimes it's actually better to not hit it too hard so but that would be the only thing that would involve physical strength i mean it sound it seems to me that like the there's only a few competitions where men and women can compete against one another sort of on an equal playing field and one of those i'm told is like um shooting like rifle does that make sense yeah because you're basically just aiming and breath control i would think if the rifle was heavy that would be an issue but pistols yeah and pistols i mean it doesn't seem i don't know like what like if men started identifying as women to compete in figure skating would that like screw over women in figure skating that's a good question more strength more strength no legs but they're not but are they judged by how high they jump they're just judged on doing the things perfectly right but doesn't the difficult difficulty factor in maybe i think it does um you know like they if they have more leg strength i would believe they could leap higher and spin more and for sure i mean that's sort of like the thing with skateboarding too right right like it's like those they can jump higher and farther and like they can move faster right and what are the again what are the what specifically do you have to prove if you want to compete as a woman do they test you do they make sure that you you aren't taking testosterone do they test you to make sure that you're taking estrogen do they check your testosterone levels not in skateboarding well that's crazy yeah isn't that crazy because if it is a physical thing which it clearly is like the best skateboarders are very good athletes you know what they do is incredible it's hard to do oh yeah so if that's the case then you would think that you would want to make sure that someone isn't taking
performance-enhancing drugs i mean maybe they will at some point or maybe if we were talking about at the olympic level i don't think that it's come up in skateboarding at the olympic level i mean that's relatively new that they've when did skateboarding get into the olympics may i think maybe just like the last olympics like i'm not sure they definitely test me yeah but in regular competition like it's probably not been that big of an issue so far for them to really have to deal with it like taylor is probably the first person who's ever spoken out about this in skateboarding like it's been talked about in other sports track swimming mma um like weightlifting yeah um and those ones are easier because they're so obvious i mean people are obviously still going along with it anyway but it's very obvious like when you look at there's like a photo of leah thomas at the swim meet and they're all diving and he's like two feet higher than all the rest of the chicks and immediately farther along and he's also just obviously bigger he's a tall big dude who was a really good swimmer as a man which is nuts yeah and he transitioned like the really yeah exactly he started taking doing hormone replacement therapy no someone told me that uh leah is still intact probably and dates girls probably i don't know but most are true most most guys who identify as trans women are still intact and date girls like mo that's a horrible surgery to get to get your dick cut off and inverted into like a neo vagina that's not supposed to be there so that's what they call it a neo vagina well that's probably not what trans activists call that but i think like in if you're gonna like read a research paper or something like that that's what they would call it or surgeons call it a neo vagina but like it's a hole that wants to keep closing up because it's not supposed to be there like it's not it's hard to maintain it's gross
for reasons that i let people imagine like it doesn't function like a vagina vaginas are supposed to be there they operate in a specific way that's conducive to sexual intercourse they are self-cleaning which is not the case for a surgical hole that's been an inverted penis like um they'll the men will like grow hair on the inside do you know what i mean oh boy because it's from like their ball sack it's that skin so oh jesus and it smells bad um i anyway and also they're they're really complicated surgery and there can be complications really easily and there's more than once you have to have a bunch of surgeries to get all this done yeah and yeah and you might end up you have to have more than one not being able to have sexual pleasure the other way around is really horrific like women who are transitioning to men and want like a fake penis attached they like take the skin off of your arm yeah i've seen that and that's a bunch of surgeries and you don't get a functional penis do you not really and sometimes it doesn't take right sometimes your body rejects it and you have to try again a number of times it's really gross and then yeah it's like then you can't come like what is even the point what is the point of having a penis if you can't like have sexual pleasure and you can't have an orgasm what does the penis do then i don't know but there was a cover of a magazine that showed this person who had just transitioned and had a big scar on their leg yeah and had a giant old hog yeah i read that um what was her name she was a she was a journalist i got god i can't remember her name i wrote something about that she was a journalist and she'd you know she'd reported in like war-torn countries and had been traumatized by witnessing some pretty horrible sexual assault and she had a history of um sexual abuse like she'd been molested as a kid i think that kind of stuff factors into transition too especially for women
it's like naturally you want to get rid of your sexualized body if um you in your brain are like well these men did these things to me when i started developing right you want to go back to not being a sexual looking woman but she yeah she decided to be a man and they did a cover story and she had this giant like like a giant hole in her thigh kind of thing from where they'd taken the skin and turned it into her fake penis it's really it's a horrible thing to go through and i just i think that these people are often trying to deal with mental problems in physical or superficial ways and now we live in a culture where a therapist isn't allowed to challenge you like if you go to a therapist and you're a young woman and you say i'm a boy you have to take an affirmative approach and say okay yeah you're a boy go get some hormones like we can give you a mastectomy and a hysterectomy so they're not being questioned about like anything else that it might be connected to pastor are you sure that's like all therapists behave the same way i think therapists are scared so probably not all therapists but these therapists don't want to be accused of transphobia and then lose their careers so i think that most therapists are going along because they could get in a lot of trouble if they don't because it's it's so complex because you like you want people to do what makes them happy i want people to have the choice and i don't know how you feel like i don't know how someone feels when someone says to me that i've always known that i was a woman i don't have any idea how they feel so at their word i mean what does it mean to feel like a woman i have no idea what it means like to i don't feel like a woman i just feel like whatever like me right but you are a woman yeah so you are a woman and you feel like you and it does it feels like it syncs up but imagine if you were a man and you felt like you should feel like you you felt like you should look like
you should be like you like you like the things that a girl likes but you feel like somehow another nature's throwing you a curveball and you have a male body but you have a female mind really weird no i i can't imagine that it's got to be real it's i think we're dealing with many things i think we're dealing with legitimate people that are trans people where i don't want to delegitimize anybody but when i say by the word legitimate i mean there's an issue where they genuinely from the moment they were born have felt like a girl and they're confused and they don't understand why and everything else is great and if they transition they'll be happier i think those people exist but i also think all the other things that you said are true too the statistics about people who felt like they were trans and they're young and then eventually became gay men those are very high right and and lesbians yeah like lesbians like there's a lot of girls and i've interviewed these girls who think they were boys and turn up yeah who when they're teenagers like older teenagers usually um are like well you know like i don't feel like i fit in i feel like i'm not a girl like i like other girls and i don't want to wear girly clothes i don't like i must be a boy and then they transition and a couple years down the line they're like i'm not a boy i'm a lesbian so there's there's all these things so how do you know what's what how do you know who's who's getting influenced by culture and society and one of the things about kristen beck is that she grew up in a [ __ ] military town like a small town the middle of nowhere in texas and did not have any transgender ideology so all of the ideas that that was pushed on her or that she was indoctrinated that's all it doesn't work with her so for sure there are people out there that are experiencing the same thing that kristen beck experienced the same thing other people experience too where they
feel like they're in the wrong body and then also for sure there's people like abigail schroer is talking about that may be being influenced by the trendiness of it by the social contagion aspect of it like we have to be able to look at all these possibilities and to say that it's binary either you are a woman or you're a man you know you recognize yourself as a woman or a man or that's it like that's and you are oh you are a woman you've always been a woman okay i guess i'm a woman like to to to make it like that and to avoid all nuance and to devoid all these other possibilities to avoid this term gender dysphoria to avoid all of this uh information about you know whether or not this is even effective or if it makes people happy like what what is going on you can't as soon as you can't discuss an issue without being fearful of being attacked by people that don't agree with you it becomes very problematic because people get scared they become cowards and you get people on one side they will virtue signal and they'll claim to fight against you you know that she's a piece of [ __ ] i [ __ ] hate her and we gotta take her down yeah we gotta take her down and they'll do it to like let the tribe know that they're on the right side and you've also like hacked political commentators that'll do that and they're just doing it because they're just dumb and sloppy and that's how they behave and they they'll find something that they could rally against and it's it's good for clicks you know yeah i mean they need a headline yeah they need something to fight against because they don't really have interesting nuanced opinions they have you know just it's [ __ ] culture this hot take culture is a it's a wild culture because there's a whole industry of hot take [ __ ] out there and all they do is like live for hot takes and what they don't understand is people lose all faith in your actual opinions on things when you're just doing these hot takes because now i don't know you i don't know you i know what you're doing i know then the titles of these outrageous clips i know you screaming at the camera i know all this stuff that people do they're crying on the camera
about all the harassment that you got as a female journalist online before you went and tried to ruin somebody else's life yeah there's a lot of those too but i don't know them because they're not honest and that's why they don't resonate that's why it doesn't work well i mean that's gotta like harm those people who are doing it too because imagine if you were under that kind of pressure to continue like to come up with hot takes on like a variety of subjects every single day like i don't write about something unless like i've thought about it a lot yeah like i'm not gonna like just be like oh what's your opinion on this like like some of some i'll have some answers for some questions if it's stuff that i've thought about like i think this i think that but like if it's something i don't know i'm just gonna be like i don't know i don't know anything about this i don't have an opinion writing is very different than hot taste because people have hot i have hot takes on things unstoppable what do you think about that i think it's [ __ ] listen i'm a healthy person yeah like by by effort i work out very hard at it you know i've been doing it my whole life the idea that um you have the same the idea that a person can decide to eat unhealthy to let their body balloon to more be morbid obesity and you don't discuss that you don't ever bring that up you don't tell them that the doctor is not allowed to tell you that doctor's not there's even doctors that will lie and cite nonsense and pretend that it's healthy to be fat and there's nothing wrong with it and actually dieting is unhealthy yeah like there's so many things that are linked to obesity so many diseases so many problems people will say oh skinny people can be unhealthy too it's true yep it's totally true they're right but not to the same numbers they're not even close not even unless you're talking about anorexics if you talk about people that are of optimum weight the amount of uh i mean depending upon their diet of course i mean someone could have a terrible diet and you get a
bunch of diseases that are connected to that but obesity is a rough one that's one of the things we learned during covid there was one point in time where 78 of the people who were in the icu were obese it makes me so angry it makes me so angry that they created all this hysteria around covet and pretended that anybody could just die of covenant in a second when we knew full well that it was people who were you know it was old people and like fat people like really unhealthy people and it's like shut down the gyms shut down the gyms because like people who are unhealthy and fat are dying of this disease so shut down healthy people's lives and force them to be unhealthy that's the solution well i think it was an interesting case because it clearly was more dangerous than anything we've ever experienced before in terms of infectious disease it's clearly more dangerous than the flu clearly more dangerous than a lot of things but you weren't allowed to look at it like you look at those other things but everybody wasn't at equal risk no no no they were not but a lot of people who you didn't think were at risk got [ __ ] up by it too which was really interesting because i don't think it's even across the board look i think there's a high probability that that [ __ ] thing came from a lab and it behaves like something that came from a lab and that's why it's wild it's wild because there's people that have you know no problem with the flu and they got [ __ ] wrecked by covid like real bad lung scarred decreased oxygen capacity decreased cardiovascular output all that stuff i don't know a single person who had like a horrible experience with cancer oh i do i tested positive and i had zero symptoms well let me tell you about hamza chemiev okay okay because hamza chimayo is one of the best fighters in the ufc one of the best up-and-coming contenders he was hospitalized multiple times for kovitt he was spitting blood up in his toilet bowl and tried to retire coughing blood up in the toilet because of kovid because of covet yeah crazy yeah and he's a [ __ ] elite top of the food chain assassin but here's what happened he didn't give himself the chance to recover he got coveted and he tried to
train and he was training while he had coveted and he [ __ ] himself up and he you know it got stronger and then he was admitted to the icu he almost died he was admitted to the hospital more than once on multiple occasions because he's just [ __ ] psycho and he kept training and he didn't give his body a chance to recover yeah i mean i'm not saying i haven't heard these stories i'm literally talking about people i know in real life and everybody that i know in real life who got covered like stayed home in bed until they felt better my friend michael yoga coveted and he got covered early on in the pandemic and he was hospitalized for weeks and he thought he was going to die and it was real bad but i don't know what i don't know whether or not he's was healthy at the time i know he was exhausted he told me the whole story of how he uh flew to new york did press flew back drove to vegas with his family and then drove back the next day and then tested positive recovery and it was wrecked but just doing that alone that's six hours of driving after flying hanging out with your wife's family everybody getting together probably having a couple cocktails laughing not getting enough sleep jet lagged well that's how you get it exactly like i got a cold that turned into bronchitis and then turned into freaking pneumonia right because i had to travel right like because i was like way over tired i couldn't take care of myself i couldn't get like the vitamins that i needed i couldn't rest enough i couldn't get the food that i needed i had to go on all these planes i had to work and i just like i yeah i couldn't heal and so it turned into pneumonia exactly and that is something that happens to people with covet so that's what gets the really healthy people so when they bring that up as an example it's like the problem is if you are a person that has to fly and has to work late and has to do things where you're not getting enough sleep then it's [ __ ] dangerous because if you're taxed out and that hits you when it got me the first day i was like whoa i was like this is [ __ ] strong i was like this is interesting because it hits you so quick i was like from the moment
i was on i was on the plane i was feeling funky and then um i just thought i was hungover and then i got back to uh texas and that night i was sweating and i was i was freezing i sweat through three different pairs of sweatpants or a sweatshirt and a hood then freezing right so i change shiver in put a new one on get back under the covers i had a you know i was sleeping by myself um i told my wife i was probably sick and then i moved to the other side of the bed and moved to her side soaked that side too but uh that's because of all those things that i said i was drinking i was flying i was in florida we played pool until 3 30 in the morning and i had like five margaritas and then the next day did a show and then flew back that night so it was a lot of you know environmental stress alcohol shows this that the other thing but i still got over it pretty quick and that but that's how illness works like that's how you get sick and then you get exactly like my whole family had it at one point in time early in the pandemic and i didn't get it and i didn't do anything to avoid it i didn't do anything i was hugging my kids when i had it and i felt weak a couple of days i was like whoa i wonder if this is gonna it's gonna get me like when i would go to work out um i would re i knew something was going on it did not feel normal so i said i am it was at my house so i was like and i had five days off so i was i was like we could figure this out i'm like let's just see what's going on here and so i worked out and when i worked out i was like something's wrong this is not feeling like me i'm like i'm just gonna just just go light and break a sweat and don't be an [ __ ] and i did that two days in a row and then by the third day i got into the gym i'm like i feel pretty [ __ ] good and then i worked out pretty hard but i tested negative every day i never tested positive i tested myself every single day that's funny because the one time that i thought that i got it and i was like this is weird and like i couldn't get out of bed like i was just exhausted i
was like sweating a lot too and i had this weird dry cough that never turned anything it was just a consistently dried cough but um and i was like i probably have covered so i just stayed home i had tried to go to the gym like very early on and i was like so tired i just was like i didn't test for anybody do anything um you guys tested me for any bodies and i didn't have them when but i was many months out from your um from you're being sick it was a long time after i think jamie's got superhuman antibodies you should see his antibody level amazing out like a big dick what does it protect him from well he's just been exposed to a lot of dirty girls around him so you can't get chlamydia anymore either huh that's how that works right is that how it works if you get it enough times then you're immune but jamie got covid in october of 2020. he got it early early on and um then like recently you had a didn't you have a antibody test real recently that was fat i want to say maybe someone didn't have a strong line so i was like let me show you a strong yeah that was you know what it was it was uh protect our parks okay it was uh when norman and gillis had just gotten over coveted and so that we wanted to see and his his [ __ ] lines are fat so he's got crazy antibodies i mean i this you guys like tested me here for anybody's so that would have been like a year ago i haven't tried since then they say you have t and b cell um memory too which is interesting it's like even if your your body doesn't have antibodies it has memory and it can develop those antibodies if you're coming contact with it some of these guys um that work here um they didn't catch kovid a second time but they came in contact with it and then they felt like weird and then it showed up that they had antibodies so like when mercy would test us it would show that your your levels indicate that something recently uh your body tried to fight it off recently interesting
i mean yeah like i i feel like a lot of people treat covet based on anecdotal evidence or what they read in the media so i'm like you know i it's hard not to though what else do you if you don't read it in the media or you don't get it anecdotally how are you gonna what information are you getting other than that well so but i mean yeah most people unless you're reading scientific papers well and even scientific papers have conflicting information right depending upon who's running the study and what the parameters of the study were and especially if they went into the study with a bias and they tried to accomplish a certain thing yeah of course i mean i i guess i'm just like my experience is that i left vancouver during covid and i moved to mexico and everything was fine there well i i left l.a and i came to texas and everything was normal people were normal here in may of 2020. it was wild like people walking around with no masks on all friendly we were all packed into bars spitting in each other's faces sharing we sharing food sharing drinks searing cigarettes like the thing that did me in when i got sick for sure 100 was that i was drinking and flying i was drinking in florida stayed up really late exhausted and then had to fly the next day did a show how to fly that night it was a lot i get sick a lot when i fly just in general like i have to be real careful yeah not good for your body to be that [ __ ] high up in the air and that that air that you're breathing i know it's recycled air and i know it's supposed to be purified and everything like that and it always makes me exhausted and dehydrated yeah yeah you're also probably getting cooked by radiation is that what happens on the plane they cook you with radiation i don't know if it's bad for you but i do know that i've never been exposed to high levels of radiation when you fly um i want to say high levels higher levels of radiation i wonder like if um stewardesses have issues that flight attendants have issues with radiation i had no idea that you were being exposed to radiation yeah see let's google it here it goes we are exposed to low levels of
radiation when we fly you would be exposed to about 0.035 ms v 3.5 mrem of cosmic radiation if you were to fly within the united states from the east coast to the west coast this amount of radiation is less than the amount of radiation we receive from one chest x-ray so that's probably fine yeah but how much lost i don't really know anything about radiation but the thing is like a chest x-ray you have to wear a lead vest oh right that's a good point worried about cooking your [ __ ] organs like that's not a good like chest x-rays are [ __ ] bad for you okay i mean there's a reason why they put that vest on you right don't they protect your junk do they protect you well they do it when they give you x-rays at the dentist too they protect you or they protect like they put something on you protect your [ __ ] brain they don't give you a lead helmet like magneto it's weird though the radiate like that that argument i don't see air travel exposes you to radiation how much risk so does it show us there okay it says your dose that thing you just had that little circle right there so it says your dose off it because it doesn't matter i guess that red is the what's the big one at the bottom there is that the x-ray that upper left-hand corner sorry the big red thing if the upper left-hand corner of the the screen yeah that's why i just clicked yeah that's what i'm saying what is the big red one at the bottom what does that say just doesn't make any sense a single dose fatal that's about radiation poisoning i think oh okay so where's the flight which one's a flight is it a little tiny one yeah okay so 40 and then can make that a little bigger so abdominal okay that's cool abdominal x-ray is 200 a flight is 40. a dental x-ray is only five but they still throw that lead vest on you so think about that think about that [ __ ] hip x-ray is a
little bit more though look at this 800 for hip x-ray oh if x-rays there's a chest ct scan which whoa i guess that's a little bit more a ct scan interesting it's 12 000 holy [ __ ] whatever units that is that's a lot what's an mri is that in there well that's magnetic resonance imagery i don't think that's radiation uh and then it says like 400 000 it was a dose that would cause symptoms of radiation poisoning yeah but that like over how much time like there's got to be a reason why they throw that [ __ ] lead vesicle so yeah this one is also saying a flight a frequent flyer so that's someone who's flying a lot is gonna have uh almost oh see there it is look at that frequent flyer from new york to los angeles has 480 as opposed to 200 from an abdomen x-ray but so what does that mean that's a lot of relationships that what happens then if you're exposed that's over time you can read minds well then great in the comic books that's always what happened the comic books you got radiation you became cool as [ __ ] how much do we get from the sun don't we get something not i guess uh yeah you must get some so we're radiation hanging out outside don't you have radiation well the thing is like everything has radiation like rocks have radiation like if you're if you are exposed to rocks like you touch a hot rock that rock has radiation okay but it's very very little like people are worried about your cell phone the radiation from your cell phone maybe is it bad i don't know some people think it is you're supposed to not put them on your genitals yeah cell phone elon doesn't think it's bad so i'm like tell me what to do i'm not too worried about my cell phone but if you listened like by your ear on one side of your head and then develop the two here's a little comparison chart that helps ultrasound or mri radiation exposure equivalent to zero days of natural radiation zero hours of flying lower back x-ray radiation exposure is equivalent to 2313 days of natural radiation or 182 hours of flying lower back ct scan is
equivalent to 511 days of natural radiation or 462 hours of flying so if you're a stewardess you're getting cooked are you lazy there must be studies is it a stewardess i don't know i say stewardess but i think you're supposed well i guess you're supposed to say flight attendant actresses are just actors they're female actors i don't care about any of that stuff anymore no i think maybe i went through a phase of caring a little bit but i i don't care about like i don't care about calling people retards i don't care about calling people like [ __ ] or [ __ ] or [ __ ] or dick bags or [ __ ] or keep going [Laughter] i mean i have like a potty mouth but i just i feel like it's not important that's not the important thing you know what phrase went away comedienne i don't even remember that being a thing yeah it was female 1 well comedienne miss pat miss pad was one of the funniest people alive she has like comedienne miss pat is her instagram that was like comedy i e n n e i think is that it i've never heard that you never heard comedienne no i don't think so yes there it is comedienne female community just weird weird because comics don't use it yeah i mean it is it it is really an unnecessary i think but uh also i don't care like i feel like people tried to make that like a it's not an actress actor everyone's an actor i'm like who cares it's a female actress or it's a female actor like i don't know i just i don't think that's the important thing i think that what's happening in real life is the important thing oh yeah you know what i mean no for sure i just think it's interesting the phrases that just get adopted and with comedy it just got abandoned for whatever reason interesting yeah i mean you would think but it's obviously not true that that's cause like comedy can't be woke because how do you make jokes if
everything's supposed to be woke but obviously they've woked comedy so yeah or they've tried to in any case i feel like it was short-lived because i feel like the unwoking of comedy came around pretty fast like i feel like there was like a period of time when they were trying to like make comedy happen and then people like ricky gervais and like dave chappelle were like nah well it's also the pro well first of all ricky gervais's new [ __ ] is [ __ ] hilarious oh it's so good it's hilarious yeah but it's also when you are doing what you're trying to be woke you are saying i adhere to the ideology i will speak only the phrases that empower and then like that's not comedy no comedy is talking [ __ ] comedies you have a couple of drinks and you say something [ __ ] up to your friend you both laugh hysterically or you call each other up and you don't even mean what you're saying but you're saying something to be funny that's comedy and when you want to pretend that that's a statement you're going to lose me as an actual human like i can't talk to you as a real individual anymore because i know you're playing a game so i can't take what you're saying seriously any longer because now you're not really having a conversation with me you're just trying to force me into your ideology for social brownie points i'm not gonna do that yeah well yeah and it's not authentic no it's phony torture yeah and it's like i'm willing to have a reasonable conversation with anybody about any subject but if you want to pretend that jokes aren't jokes we can't talk you can't say that you can't joke about things you can't say that that ricky gervais stuff is offensive it might offended you it didn't defend me it's so funny though it was hilarious i mean i feel sort of like jokes and humor trump all like if it's funny then i'm like okay but it's funny so yeah if it works like i yeah i guess i just i think that there's some people who actually i really don't like these people who actually don't have a sense of humor like they just don't like they don't care they don't think like humor is not important to them and they kind of don't really get it like there's a lot of that
people are like this is offensive this is offensive sometimes it's and a lot of times it's phony but i think there genuinely are people who are like well i didn't get it so it's not funny it's like no you didn't get it because you have a bad sense of humor there's that and there's also people that are authoritarians and they don't like comedy because it's a loophole right if they want to tell you what to do you know and you are joking around about something like no you can't joke around about that and they'll tell you this is this is off limits for comedy and they want a [ __ ] protest and yeah yeah that's what it is it's like they're just upset that in their mind like there are things you just can't joke around about and in in their mind it's you know whatever their ideology says yeah i mean i get it's just it's so controlling yeah like i'm so weirded out by this culture where people think that they are entitled to control other people what other people think what other people say what other people joke about and i don't understand the desire to do that either it's like like let people live yeah like why are you so obsessed with what other people are doing is that like because you don't have anything interesting going on in your life or you feel out of control in your own life like i keep trying to like look at it through a psychological lens i suppose and i i don't i i doesn't make sense no yeah but it's a just a natural human trait a natural human characteristic whether it's through religion or through culture to get people to adhere to the boundaries that you've set for your group and if someone tries to stray outside those boundaries and joke about things or do something or say something or have you know some sort of a an opinion that's forbidden and you want to signal that you're part of the n group which is tribalism also right so you're like i'm part of this group so i believe this so i won't tolerate this yeah you're part of the out group megan i have to pee so bad i have to pee too i kept being like should i interrupt because i really have to let's wrap this up um tell people uh you said it before but say it again your sub
stack oh it's just megan murphy so m-e-g-h-a there it is the same drugs with megan murphy also oh sorry good night um like so is this going to come out tomorrow yeah so tomorrow you'll s people if they still want to come they can still buy tickets to this event what day is the event june 10 june friday at 6 pm and where's it at austin central library it's called women leaving the left um so uh that's yeah 710 west caesars yes yeah event right it's easy to find go to my instagram the links there buy tickets online if you would like to come anyway thank you so much for having me this was really fun it was so great to see you again yeah all right bye everybody [Music] you