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[Music] sir cheers good to see you my friend likewise thanks for having me i was commenting the round eyes i'm a fan yeah i like the round eyes it makes you feel fancy you're a fancy person drinking bourbon on round ice yeah one in row like i was like can we do this again yeah you don't ever uh smoke cigars and drink whiskey unless you're with me no i do other people but like yeah this is like the thing to do yeah you know what i mean yeah last time it was fun we did it yeah we're conversating yeah i like that word too yeah conversating conversating doesn't seem like it's a real word but i think it is i think so yeah yeah yeah good to see you likewise it's fun hanging out last night yeah i mean i was here when things were shut down in la with the pandemic and i thought it was great then like the way vulcan was set up and then last night it's like even more people and they keep on like elevating yeah yeah it was a fun show well you know the the scene here right now is just on fire it's hopping there's so many comics here it's really fun yeah it's a good time like on any given night at vulcan we'll have ron white tony hinchcliffe tim dillon stops in sometimes tom is a girl when he's not on the road christina positsky stops him there's so many comics here derek poston's here david lucas is here all the time hans kim william montgomery i mean it's [ __ ] hopping yeah i think that's part of the charm of that place too was just people don't know who's gonna pop in yeah and even when i was here i was here for like three months during the pandemic it was cool it almost felt like a festival city because it's that midpoint between new york and l.a so i would see like giannis i would see guys i just wouldn't see unless i was doing montreal or something yeah so it's just organic midpoint yeah there's also like other clubs right like there's with the other day we went over to see ari he was at the creek in the cave running his uh his new hour special that he's gonna film july i think it's 11th and 10th and 11th or 11th and 12th 11th 12th
um i think one of them might have some tickets available the 11th is sold out but i think there might be a few tickets left for the 12. don't sleep because it's [ __ ] good his uh new special is called jew i was going to name mine that as well you should yeah i'm like get it out first yours is about to release you should just change the name of yours my sorry should fear jew just rename everything just call it ari shafir jew has nothing to do with him whatsoever i just beat him to the title that would be funny if we just start naming our specials after our friends you know you just name a special call it neil brennan he's like hey man why why are you doing that i like you come on man has nothing to do with me do you know where he's gonna put his aries uh i think he's gonna do the youtube route um we were talking about that last night i honestly think that most of us are gonna wind up doing that i mean i think um there's a lot of money in netflix right uh and netflix is great but for the widest possible distribution i think you should put it everywhere and put it out for free yeah put it everywhere because that's what you're doing when you're doing a special you're essentially saying hey this is like an advertisement to come see me live which is it's way better live anyway like i always say that coming to see someone in a club or in a theater or what have you is probably it's at least 30 or 40 percent better than watching on tv oh for sure at least right yeah it might be twice as good it's always better live but youtube is to play now um honestly and i think i'm getting better about this just giving compliments and giving flowers to people oh like my hat goes out to schultz i think he really kind of broke it for all these comics and shifting our thinking because for the longest time all of us were just hoarding our material because we were still in that old legacy hollywood traditional hollywood mindset yeah we're like all right i have this polished stuff i'm waiting to be tapped
i'm waiting for netflix to say you can do the thing you can do i'm waiting for comedy central we're waiting we're asking for permission to do something we already know we can do and and he just saw the power of youtube and was like nah this is like powerful enough on its own and when he did that and all the comics kind of saw oh that's a route every now look there's like all it's a clip economy on instagram and everyone isn't so precious with their material it's uh they're taking their lead from music with soundcloud and mixtapes it's like get it to the people exposure is more important than short money yeah like what's the point look at this special mine's on youtube because i just want eyeballs i made it myself i'm not trying to make money off this is this your first one no i did one the traditional route like on c cell was like who the [ __ ] knows what cecil is seeing remember i do remember i was like before equipment just like yeah what happened to although didn't doug stanhope had us have a special guy yeah brody had one on there too did he brody had one he had one yeah so i mean i'm gl it it allowed me to have a special that way it's in a theater it's glossy it's polished and all that but it's in comedy jail like no one saw it because nobody knew what cecil was nobody knew how to get it and nobody wanted to there's a paywall and does cso own it now well comedy dynamics produced it so they licensed it to comedy central so it's on comedy central's youtube my first special which i'll say you can you can watch it right now my old one yeah what's it called the old one's called there's no business like [ __ ] it's called the archbishop's jew yeah but the news no business like show business yeah that's the old one yeah boy and then the new one's called hat trick and i did that one at the store and i directed it i did everything and this is the one you did each room yeah you did the belly room the or in the main room yeah what was the order i did the i started with the or and then the main room and then the belly room and people ask why i did that
order and it just felt right like in my heart and into my soul i just knew that was the order i wanted to do because the or i think is the comedy store like at its core the original room is the comedy store yeah and then the main room is kind of like vegas style big room here it is presentational right and then the belly room is kind of like a hang it's a vibe it's like an 80-seater you know yeah so i wanted to cap it off i wanted to come out hot with the o.r show the extravagance of the main and then close it out with like the knight winding down in the belly nice yeah and then there's interstitials i just wanted to show the store for what it is because every time i see it in specials you know like ari shot his there and everything they like they fancy it up louis ck shot especially yeah he did his in the main room yeah um but they dress it up and and i'm like that it's not exactly the store so i just wanted to really capture the vibe so in in the special in between sets i'm talking to like theo tim dillon um santino so you get to see like what it's like us hanging out before we go oh that's cool on stage yeah so it's a special from like a comedian's pov and and how did you arrange the conversations with like dylan and santino and all that it wasn't premeditated like the whole point of this like they didn't even know i mean i asked them obviously but i just had very skeleton maybe one guy with a camera shooting from afar and it just picked up organic conversations i'm not having the entire conversation on there but you get little vignettes and slices of what it's like in the hallway in the parking lot you'll brendon driving up fist bumping you know like it's what it's like to be a comic in the store that's nice yeah and when did you film it maybe trying to think like january or yeah a couple maybe like maybe two no february like february so things had
just started to come back the store was finally fully operational like full shows and then some people wearing masks some weren't it was kind of like a choose your own adventure in la with covet so you'll see like maybe one person with a mask in one shot or yeah but it was like up and running it wasn't limited capacity it was it was running enough to do this type of special nice yeah i can't believe no one had done one this way so it was just my ace in the sleeve i'm like because i'm in this weird place where i've been doing stand-up 20 years i'm a comic comic like comics like me and stuff and like artistically i'm further along than i am visibility-wise why do you think that is i think i think i would enjoy i naively when i was younger in a younger comic i just thought if i'm funny and crushing the clubs and stuff and i have representation i trust my representation is getting it done like they will make it happen my job is just to like keep writing material doing well in the clubs i would get validation from other comics like oh my god that's great but like i don't know why you're not popping are you you're under the radar i'm like oh thanks man like that feels good when you get validation from other comedians you know right like that means more than anything like when bird texts me about a bit or whatever that means more than any like getting a guest star on something because like i i respect burr because i love stand up i respect the craft like when you do it like that means more to me than these little hollywood things so i just trusted that my people would get it done but they have big rosters like people your people don't care as much as you do about you do you think that's really what it is what listen what you just said earlier you have a special that's on siso yeah so who the [ __ ] saw that nobody nobody so how would people know about you yeah okay here's the thing though like
why do that what about other stuff what about other ways to get your name out there and have you been on the road a lot uh yeah i would go out a little bit yeah that's not a lot yeah that's the thing it's like you got to develop markets yeah right so you have to develop a following a lot of guys like gabriela glacis is a great example a guy developed a following just [ __ ] hustling just constantly hustling constantly doing shows yeah you know like you didn't do that a lot and you were also in the writing ecosphere only during the pandemic like that was my first yeah yeah because that just fell in my lap because stand-up wasn't happening and then they were a fan of my stand-up and i didn't want to write on the show because when you were out here when you first came out here and you're staying at that apartment building i remember like there were certain gigs you couldn't do because or you you had to show up late because you had to be in the yeah zoom the lighter sorry yeah sure but they were cool it was kind of nice being in the zoom writers room and it's almost like you have the superpower because we'd be writing all day and i'm like hey guys can i leave early i have to do this show with joe rogan and dave chappelle and they're just like yeah yeah go what are you doing it's like a rom-com like what are you doing get out of here a rom-com kind of because it is kind of rock and roll what we do yeah yeah well for people that don't do it it's probably weird the people that used to do it you make the weirdest noises when you suck on cigars i watch like 1950s guys smoking [Music] there's a lot of great comics that got trapped in that writer's world yeah i can't never found out about them it's a tragedy you know to this day i say owen smith is one of the greatest [ __ ] comics alive yeah and people don't know who he is unfortunately other than people talking about him because you
you know you can make a really good living doing what he does he makes a very good living as a writer and a producer but when you watch that guy do stand up you're like how is this guy not huge yeah how is he not selling out theaters and stadiums and he's he's [ __ ] excellent yeah his timing his writing everything's excellent he's far beyond you want to talk about a guy whose ability is far beyond his his name it's owen smith in my book yeah that's my i love him too yeah i see him at the store all the time he's my number one guy in terms of like underrated guys yeah yeah i think once you get that writing opportunity you kind of decide what some guys just gravitate towards it you know some people get into uh stand-up they do it for four years they get a writing gig and they're happy that's all they wanted to do they weren't like real stand-ups it was kind of a springboard for them but there's some people who do it and they're like i don't like it's uh it's like a deal with the devil a little bit like yeah yeah you'll get complacent you'll get tired at night you don't want to go out and do a set yeah money's good maybe you have some kids and a wife and then you're in this like golden cage yeah yeah tony was telling me how when he was doing it he you know he did a lot of writing but he never stopped doing sets and they would say man come on come out with us for drinks you don't have to do a set and you'd go what what the [ __ ] did you say yeah and his mind was very clear he's like i am a comic i am doing this writing thing for money while i develop an act to be one of the best comics in the world that's how i approach it too um yeah when i was writing in the room because people were like oh you should just like keep on doing it and just go down that rider path but but the thing is then you you like put out your flame like the whole reason i got the job is because they like my stand-up every opportunity i've gotten in hollywood is because of my stand-up yeah so why would i extinguish my superpower you know cause then you
just become a writer and there's nothing wrong with that but that's more common than a very good stand-up it's also it's like how do writers know if they're funny you know i mean you know if you're funny when you interact with people yeah but i guess you know you're funny if you're funny in a room like like perfect example matt stone and trey parker they're hilarious the funniest [ __ ] guys on earth they don't do stand-up but south park is one of the greatest shows the world has ever known if not the greatest comedy show of all time is a real good argument that's the greatest comedy show of all time the greatest cartoon of all time for sure and for how good it is for how long is amazing i don't know any show has had that type of consistency insane and apparently it's just trey parker he's a [ __ ] complete yeah you've ever watched that show what is it called seven days to air six days something like that whatever it's called yeah it's a great documentary i love that inside baseball stuff no matter what the subject is just i'm so fascinated it's interesting to see how the sausage is made you know and it's a lot of is trey parker there's people like that that are just wizards yeah you know they just they just have a thing and they know and obviously he's got a system completely down and they hire great writers and you know they've got the people at comedy central are smart enough to leave them the [ __ ] alone which is rare you know to have a network it just sort of goes go ahead but it's always it's nice when you do have a conglomerate like that to just trust the artist because look what gets produced i think it's tough when you have a lot of cooks in the kitchen who don't my favorite things artistically are pretty singular in in vision like chappelle's show right they didn't have a lot of meddling in that you know yeah well they started the medal when it started to make a lot of money and that was one of the reasons why dave quit when dave you know got the offer it wasn't the money that corrupted him where he's like i don't need this 50 million dollars it was what it came with it came with them trying to censor the show to make it more friendly to
advertisers like they were literally telling him don't say this don't say that do this don't do that and and dave was like i see the [ __ ] writing on the wall here and it's quite a legendary move to [ __ ] vanish for 10 years and remember do you remember when he was doing shows in like seattle yeah where he would pull up with like a little portable speaker in the park and do a stand-up set and everybody's like what the [ __ ] is going on is that dave chappelle and he would just set up shop in the park and do stand-up it just added to the legend i think at the time the world was like what a dumb move he's going to regret this because i guess that's not betting on yourself to people you know yeah or it is betting on yourself and they're like why would you do that and then from the vantage point that we're at right now like what a move yeah [ __ ] legendary yeah just in korea and then when he came back you know he came back and started doing shows and kind of got into the groove again and then started killing it and then started putting out specials and and then getting attacked what's your take on that what do you think is going on well for sure the will smith thing opened up the door to the idea to that guy the guy who attacked chappelle and it's also you know this there's a narrative that his jokes are transphobic they are not that that set is not transphobic that set if you really watch it and pay attention to it it has a transgender person in it who he loved who was a good friend of his who he had opened for him at shows at least one show and and talked about with great love and respect and with humor but it wasn't transphobic yeah it wasn't it was about it it had to do with a trans person but we live in this weird era where you can't even make fun of a thing unless
you're uh you're a bad person you're you're a hater like fun equals hate now it's like ricky gervais is catching a lot of it now for his latest special yeah that [ __ ] first 15 minutes of that special is fire it's fire he's it's the best ricky that i've ever seen it's his best [ __ ] yeah i was telling you too it's like the rotten tomatoes just shows you the disparity between what's going on in the country and what the critics are saying and same with chappelle's stuff too well the critics could the the critics you know what are they what does that mean you know they're just humans right but they're humans that are captured by a system and that system is like either it's a system that's propagated by social media or it's a system that you know they're on a website that is almost they're almost all like left-leaning websites that have a problem with it which is really interesting you know it's like the right wing website it's like who would have thought that if you look back on the early days what we used to think of as conservative versus liberal liberal was pro-free speech people were open-minded non-violent you know and people were open to other people's ideas and the right was like suppressive you know nanny state you know condemn certain language condemn certain behaviors that's not the case today yeah today the left has gone so [ __ ] far left so radical that the right are the ones that are celebrating comedians and celebrating chappelle yeah they had my back through all the crazy [ __ ] that happened with me it was fox news that [ __ ] had my back would you ever think that they would be the ones to cape for you like you know 10 years ago i'm so liberal yeah like i talk about it all the time like i say i am not a conservative i'm not conservative but i am pro second amendment and i am a hunter and i am a cage fighting commentator and i you know and i drink and i smoke cigars and i like to bow hunt so there's a lot in there it's like hey yeah but it's just being a human but i'm a compassionate person and i believe
that there's a boy i'll tell you what though one thing that happened during this pandemic was i i opened it opened my eyes about human nature like i used to be a very pro universal basic income my thought was wouldn't it be great if you just had enough money so you could eat and you could pay your rent and then you could pursue what you wanted to but the reality of human nature came fully into focus when i realized that one when some people got all that money from the government the coveted bunny and then they got unemployment they didn't want to work i have a friend who has a restaurant he could not get people to come back to work yeah and one one buddy of mine uh he a bartender told him i can come back to work but i can only work for 20 hours a week because that way i get unemployment so he wouldn't work more than 20 hours a week so he could get free money so he could have made more money but he didn't want to because he didn't want to work so he was getting that free money and then my friend was like what the [ __ ] man yeah like okay like and now he's you know he's always short staffed and it's a it's a mess like you see a lot of people that are that own businesses that have a hard time finding people work for them so there's there's pros to that right the pros are people it's it's a marketplace that favors the worker so workers can ask for more money so you're seeing a lot of places like bars and restaurants and stuff that have to pay more money per hour which i guess is good as long as the restaurant can stay open because it's at a challenge well not so much in texas but in california it's at a very challenging time because the the time where everybody was shut down in california was radically extended as opposed to like other parts of the country yeah and in texas things were just wide open that's why i came out here it was like a totally different world yeah remember i had that writing job we were on zoom and my nights would suck i'm just writing by day and then normally i would do stand up at night and i'm not doing anything and i'm on instagram and then i see
tony post sold out uh kill tony anton's you know yeah and i'm like what like you just kind of like snap my brain i go this i could be doing this so i call it red man i'm like how is it out there like so you gotta come out here man it's great well once like once the club gets open after we get out of here i'll tell you oh yeah i'd love to see it to the theater we're gonna do some wild [ __ ] out of your fame yeah but it's just sort of like uh even with like the the agendas and stuff and that's why i kind of did my thing on youtube too because i never fit into that netflix mold or there's just certain people who pick certain things and they have a certain brand of comedy that they want to cultivate and i think the stock prize and what's happening because there's the mega famous people who have their specials and sure it's great home run netflix but then the up and comers they're not uh some of them i'm not knocking all of them you know with some more friends around there and they do well but like there's this they are under facilitating this whole market of comedy that is just underserved and i don't think that's what it is i really don't really yeah like giannis special is great like why didn't he have one and he did is on youtube it's fine yeah like do it on it doesn't matter it's like netflix only has so many resources and so many spots and so many opportunities for people and do they make some terrible picks yeah yeah they do they've had some that just are bad everyone does well they leaned into it they they went woke they gave it a shot and they went broke you know like the the [ __ ] the price of the stock dropped it dropped radically i mean you saw what happened to netflix's stock a lot of that has to do with all this well first of all a lot of it had to do with some stuff that people really freaked out that they had like was that cuties that [ __ ] up show about young drag queens and everybody's like what
the [ __ ] are you doing that was weird right and then it was was it young drag queens or is it girls too it's like young dancer like little girl dance teams was girl it wasn't boys right was there was a drag queen thing i'm i'm think i'm complaining too there was a thing about young boys that were doing drag shows but i don't think that was the netflix thing but the point is it's like you know there's like an ideological capture that happens when you're connected to these kind of corporate systems that are embracing wokeness and so you say well we're going to find comedians that reflect our ideals yeah yeah and our values but those aren't funny that's what's frustrating because i like funny you like funny i have always my whole life just gone by funny first and my identity is secondary that's why i love tim dillon like yeah you wouldn't even know that he's gay like he doesn't so many comics would lead with that yeah and that would be their tent pole for the entire being that's just like a crumb of what he is he's so funny regardless of that he barely talks about it barely talks about it like i'm afghan but that is secondary i want to talk about everything yeah and that didn't fit that agenda because they have boxes and like they don't look it purely funny right so i'm like youtube i will trust america you decide i think that there is this marketplace now where it's like [ __ ] the system it's punk rock america you just the world you decide well i think netflix is embracing funny with ricky gervais and with dave chappelle with bill burr and there's a lot of other great comics that have netflix specials that are just purely funny you know but they already have a big name yeah yeah and the people that are coming up like you know joey diaz had a bit that they they told him he couldn't do and it was about terry crews and it was [ __ ] funny it was a very funny bit you know about you know terry crews's uh me too allegations about uh how how hot he is you know like how could gay guys resist him yeah it
was very funny but it was just they they decided that he couldn't do that bit but meanwhile the audience said he could do that bit yeah the audience was like yes i mean people were howling i was at the store and there was a [ __ ] gay couple and they were high-fiving when joey was doing that bit i'm like who are we offending we're not defending these folks yeah these this this couple came to have to see a show saw joey do that bit we're an offend it was a hundred percent like just comedy it was clear what he was doing he was just trying to make the most happiness and fun out of a story out of a a subject matter yeah i think sometimes these places don't give the people enough benefit of the doubt right and the only people who are allowed to talk about anything already huge but they're not gonna allow joey to do that they're not gonna allow me to do it they're not gonna allow you know yeah so youtube you can yeah but you can on you we talked about schultz like schultz released his stuff on youtube and then he got a netflix thing yes so you know he came back to him exactly well he became what i love this quote i use it all the time be undeniable he became undeniable his [ __ ] on netflix or his [ __ ] on you youtube and his [ __ ] on instagram to turn your phone sideways stuff was so genius that they were like this [ __ ] guy needs a show and they were like yeah and then when he put the show together it was excellent yeah and so it was like it it and a lot of people complained about it but that's about everything that's funny you're not going to make everybody happy if you're doing it the right way it's just just how it goes yeah it was such a different way of doing things that it it's it's become a blueprint for other comics and it's it's great like i think it's allowed me to do this as well and he's been really helpful i hit him up when i was going to do this youtube release i go hey do you have any advice he gave me the full download he was so happy to help out it wasn't like i have the secret sauce and yeah for me he he wants this pushback to what it is it's great like we're all helping each other and we are the gatekeepers now it's not like one guy at a company
anymore yeah that's how it should be and we all support ourselves and i talk about is probably too much for people to listen to this again but this is we have an organic network and the organic network is friends that have each other on each other's podcasts and talk about each other oh this guy's so funny oh my god you know go see christa stefano go see you know giannis pappas or joe list or whoever these people are it's like we have a bunch of really funny friends and we let everybody know and then everybody sort of does each other's shows we do shows together we do stand up together we do podcasts together we do specials and you know that's the way to do it and that way it's natural like if you are on tom segura's show and tom sagar says faheem is [ __ ] hilarious like bam okay tom tom's gives you the the stamp of approval everyone knows you're good to go yeah yeah and it works that way yeah because there's no there's no reason for him to lie but you know if you go on a tonight show no no it's saying well it's a tonight show but any kind of late night talk show they don't [ __ ] pick those people it's like you know jimmy fallon's not run going to the clubs and making good friends with all the comics and trying to figure out who's the best guy to get on yeah they're just like i mean he's a good guy jimmy fallon's a very good guy but whoever gets on his show gets on his show because some executive goes and scouts or they get a packet sent by an agent and you know that stuff is not really as appealing to people anymore because they've they've heard this they've heard the the raw stuff where people get together and just really just [ __ ] drink scotch and smoke cigars totally talk [ __ ] man like there is this shift um i think before podcasting and before youtube and instagram and where you can pull back the curtain to what comedy and stand up and this world really is all we had was like the gloss of the tonight show and all that but now people really like the nitty gritty stuff and they're a little more savvy they know about the different the comedy store for instance you know yeah it's talked about
so much on podcasts and everything and and like me doing my special there it's like people get to see the hallways and stuff and like people want to see that element of it they just don't want to see the five minute tonight show thing or a special glossy paid audience like i just tagged along on a regular night of operation at the store it people didn't know i'm shooting a special like very small footprint like people had no idea i was taping and it was conscious because when i did my cso thing it's like you load in the audience there's lights and it's sort of a recreation of your act that you've been developing in like grimy clubs but that's that's stand-up yeah when it's not being filmed right right so i wanted to capture the material not do a recreation presentation of the real material you know what i mean i know exactly what you mean yes because it's a different type of laugh when people know they're being filmed as opposed to just them acting natural right yeah so there's a beauty to that too right it's like when you go to have you ever been to a filming of like the tonight show and they have the applause signs yeah they tell you when to applaud trained seals or a sitcom for this oh yeah yeah well you're wrong yeah so they have in between you know the scene the warm-up guy like where are you from yeah well let's have a dance contest you from detroit where are you from michigan all right guys and it's like two days let's do that did you warm up no no i got asked to but i just that's kind of like a writing thing too where you can go down that rabbit hole and people will only view you as a warm-up that's a problem and you can't get out of that box you're a hundred percent right like brody was in that for a while yes yeah yeah brody was just i mean you want to talk about a comics comic they didn't know what to do with brody yeah because he was he was our guy but also because he was like a shooting star um you try to capture that
because they would try to film something and then brodie wouldn't be like yes so it's hard to capture that in a bottle yeah isn't that it's like he became a guy that was like a legendary live performer like you would go to see you just wanted you you want to see him at the club like don barris yeah great example right don barris does a lot of warm-up too he does warm-up for the kimmel show but you really don't know don barris until you see him doing a 12-15 spot at the store yeah that's don barris that's the real don bear yes you know there's some people who you can't capture their essence when you take the lens cap off like they just know like like holtzman's one of those guys too where it's hard to capture the magic of that joey diaz is that joey diaz is that way too yeah where yeah it's like you're putting a saddle on a horse or something it just doesn't want it well horses wear saddles all the time i don't know if that's the best analogy uh let's see a zebra a zebra yes can we edit the horse thing i don't want people to know that i don't know my horses don't put a saddle on a zebra we were just talking about that like uh because zebra i said the zebras can't be tamed and one of my friends sent me a video of a [ __ ] guy who got a saddle on a zebra and was riding a zebra and i'm like that that's like having a wolf for a pet it's like do you really have a pet wolf you know or is that wolf just hang out with you because you feed them that's a good point it's like my dog marshall i love marshall he's the best every photo i like like i love marshall he's a real pet you know marshall is like the sweetest friendliest dog like i never had a golden retriever before and i always had heard that they're like the best family dogs like he's not even like a dog he's like a magical creature that's like a love sponge he's like all he wants to do is like people come over the house he starts whining you're here like everybody gets greeted like they're his new best friend does he bring a shoe no he usually brings
stuffed animals he has he has a box of stuffed animals so when people start walking down the driveway towards the house he sees him and he runs to his box and he grabs a stuffed animal so cute so many of them will bring a shoe and i just love it like it's just so weird to me i know it's dog behavior but it's just so funny when the golden comes with the shoe like here you go they're retrievers yeah i know you'd be like thank you yeah thanks for this one shoe that isn't mine well they get praised for retrieving like i've never had a dog that i could teach how to catch a ball and and bring it back better than marshall like he immediately did it from the time he was a baby like he like i had dogs and i would throw the ball to them and they'd chase after the the ball go hey bring it back they'd be like [ __ ] you and then they'd run away with a ball and you're like come on man i gotta teach you how to do this you to bring it back to me so you like chasing it right well i gotta throw it for you to chase it so you gotta bring it back to me and like like i had pit bulls before and they never wanted to give the ball back they're like like i'd try to pull it out of their mouth they were playing tug of war yeah but marshall came out the womb knowing how to do it out of the womb like right away i mean i don't remember teaching him how to fetch i think he just fetched like right away he fetched that's pretty crazy i used to have a cat that would fetch whoa yeah her name was cosmo and i used to take like a little uh piece of paper and i'll crumple it up in a ball and i would throw it and she would chase it and she would bite it and she'd bring it back to me i'd play fetch with a [ __ ] cat some people will have outdoor cats or like go on a walk with the cat that that's like yeah weird it is weird but that dog is it's a that's a pet a wolf i had a friend who had he had three wolf dogs they were like seven ace timberwolf they were not as pets i'd go over his house i'd be like oh you got roommates that are murderers he lived with a bunch of [ __ ] three wall they're real wolves they were big man big ass [ __ ] dogs i went to go see
the bats you know underneath the bridge oh yeah i do is that every night yes every night at dusk yeah it's interesting it's like bat coachella everyone is just on that hill they're like ah the bats are gonna come out even during the pandemic like they didn't develop a bat phobia no yeah and it started from supposedly from bats allegedly yeah yeah but they didn't get a [ __ ] they're like they're not gonna bite me they're just gonna fly by me yeah but it's just so funny seeing all those people on the hill and on the bridge like bats it is weird when you see them come out because they come out how many yeah there's like this big flow of them there's apparently there's millions of bats under there so was that just inadvertent they built this bridge and they go oh [ __ ] we built the perfect bat habitat i believe so huh yeah because when you go under that bridge have you ever been under that bridge no i've just seen it from like a far not like if you go under in a boat or something like that you can hear them like oh yeah i would call that the sound check just like when they're about to come out you hear this [ __ ] weird noise it's kind of creepy how many let's find out how many bats i said millions it was a mighty never ending stream of bats i think it's at least a million we left and we walked out on the bat show because it was just lasting so long like we get it they're flying it's like you need those bats because those bats keep the insect population down those bats are they're predators so they're out there eating bugs i don't know how how long do bats live that's a good question they live longer than a year let's get probably right let's guess i'll say a bat lives like a dog a long life for a dog is like 15 years i'll say five five or seven yeah i'll say five most bats live less than 20 20. six species live more than 30. damn and you were not wrong there is an estimated 750 000 to 1.5 million bats that's a lot of bats wow but they're migratory so that they come and go oh wow i wonder where they go mexico oh they go to
mexico they fly from austin to mexico and back they go party dude party or they go for the drugs and they come back yeah which is what everybody do if we all had jet packs imagine if everybody could fly all your borders would be [ __ ] that's that's the only thing that keeps people in countries like the only way you have border protection all that [ __ ] is the fact that you have people stuck on earth with gravity my god can you imagine once jet packs become ubiquitous yeah like border patrol is going to be it'll be like the mandalorian just fighting people trying to come over in the sky i think they'll just give up we won't have the resources to stop it i mean ultimately look i think right now especially given the laws that we have now and the fact that you know fentanyl comes across the border and terrorists come across the border and there's a real situation the world is not at peace but wouldn't it be great if people could kind of go anywhere they wanted and everywhere was a place where you could live and thrive like imagine a world where every place was like a a city that had opportunity and freedom and democracy and was thriving and had good food and nice people like austin has good food nice people polite not too overcrowded plenty of resources wouldn't it be great if the whole world was like that and you could kind of go anywhere you wanted i will say it feels more crowded than when i was here there's like it seems like there's more people here really yeah somebody told me the population doubled like in the last year rainey street is crazy is it always like that well this is memorial day weekend first of all like last night was nuts on sixth street did you go out afterwards no i mean sixth street was mobbed we were driving like this is [ __ ] nuts for a sunday night and then you know um my friend sean was like oh it's a memorial day weekend i was like that's right i didn't even think of that it's not normal to have that many people on a sunday night but it's kind of normal like and on any given tuesday or
wednesday when we do the vulcan it's mobbed the club's mobbed and the streets are mobbed and it's just it's a unique place it is it's really unique yours is on the show somewhere else it's gonna be awesome somewhere just wait we got i can't wait to show you because we have so many cool things that are that are in the place that we're putting together it's it's wild how did you design it what was going through your head what do you want it to be is it a vibe you're trying to capture is there other clubs that you kind of are trying to pull some things from well i wanted to make it very um hospitable to comics and obviously to audience members too but one of the cool things about the store was the hang you know is that like it's our home base yeah you know so the name of the club is the comedy mothership yeah and the the reason i want it to be like a feel i want you to feel like this is your this is mother this is home like you can do the road from here you can hang out and you'll always be welcome you'll be taken care of like i want to give the comics health insurance and whoa for real yeah yeah so not typical that's like insanity in america yeah but it should be like that but you know how many comics i've paid for their [ __ ] surgeries when comics that have like things wrong with them and i find out they're like what's wrong yo are you okay like um i got something wrong with my neck i'm like what's wrong tell me what's wrong and then i take care of it like it's i've had i've had that happen multiple times because a lot of us you know in the early days you're broke and you're barely paying your rent you can't afford surgery yeah you can't afford insurance and so if something goes wrong you're kind of [ __ ] for sure like uh i feel like standups were the lowest rung on the entertainment ladder at least actors have sag health insurance and writers there's nothing like that for stand-ups really it's just you're alone out there and you just have to hope you have friends if some calamity befalls you like a gofundme or
hopefully you you know the person you know and that's kind of [ __ ] up so well the idea is to make you know make it more but but again you got to be careful that you don't set it up where people become to relax and they get you know the people have a tendency to sort of like relax too much and i don't mean relax too much like not enjoy your life i want people to enjoy their lives but i also want them to work hard and i don't mean work hard like struggle i mean put in effort and actually try like it's that that's uncomfortable it's uncomfortable to put in effort but it has to be rewarded and yeah it has to be encouraged and that's how people develop a whole community of other people doing the same thing and then it feels good to do that because you're one of the people that's doing that so as you're writing every night and as you're trying new stuff people pat you in the back hey for him your new [ __ ] [ __ ] is awesome that's great like that's a great feeling right yeah and it's great when you see other people that are going up and doing new stuff and writing all the time and it encourages that you know so you got to encourage hard work as well as like make things better for people yeah it just uh it makes you better as a comic too just know that's why i like being out in l.a and like being at the store just seeing some of the guys you see what they're doing and then it makes you do inventory with yourself and you you know where the bar is yeah whereas if you're in like ohio or something i know you know sometimes you'll do the road and someone's featuring for you or something and they're like yeah this is like my second time getting up this month i get up twice a month and it's like your heart goes out to them because you're not going to be able to develop which is that those few data points yeah there's no no one develops in a vacuum like you never go to like a place that doesn't have a comedy scene and you see one guy who's just a [ __ ] wizard who's so good in this one maybe you might see more of that today because you
see a lot of internet comedy where like people get a chance to see comedy like even if you don't get a chance to visit the seller you can watch sets from the seller on youtube or instagram or what have you you know so i think you probably have more of a chance of developing somewhere else but really you need an atmosphere you need an atmosphere of other people that are also doing it yeah that to see what your peers are doing and then also just that feedback from the audience sometimes you know people will see you perform or and they'll be like i don't know how you go like so you're so amazing that's so great and like you are but you've developed the skill where the audience is your editor the audience is doing all the work for you if you're listening that's our whole job is just listening actively listening and being an editor because we have kernels of ideas but the audience shapes them into what it is for sure so like i'll go in with some rough stuff like it's just clay and then the laughs dictate these polished bits and like i love that about stand up the most yeah and stuff comes out like while you're in the middle of talking you have a new idea that'll come out of nowhere that'll branch off you know yeah that's why like i always tell comics that you have to have you don't have to like let me stretch this like you could do it any any way you want some guys don't write at all and they're great yeah they're great [ __ ] comics they just go up a lot and they remember what they said and some guys write exclusively and they go up and they basically have like a fully formed bit when they get to the stage and they kind of tweak it and edit it and then some guys just improvise like literally just go on stage with a premise and just under the pressure of the audience improvise i think you should do all those things i think you should write i think you should improvise and i think you should you know you should go up as much as possible i think all those like people say i write on stage i'm like i can write on stage too like anyone go wrong but i actually sit down like last night i got home i sat in front of the [ __ ]
computer for two hours and i might have nothing out of that or i might have my best bid ever yeah i never know and you don't know until you try you know just stay the [ __ ] off of youtube don't jerk off no incognito mode i gotta i gotta buckle down and just right you know yeah so what i do is i have two laptops i have a laptop that is like my like what's going on the world laptop and then i have a laptop like okay time to write i pull that [ __ ] out and i'm writing i found i will i like maximizing my stage time any show i do i know what i want to achieve with that show i know what this is a lesson that came later in life for me too is when i was i just the part of stand up i love the most is chasing the new bit i'm always chasing i did it to a detriment early on and i what clicked for me was knowing what to do what bits to do on what i should do it to a detriment it might be a showcase or something and i'm like oh let me try this new thing i thought of tonight or like earlier today i think it's you know what i mean where i didn't realize i need to shine in this show not try a new bit right right so once it clicked for me knowing what to do what needs to be achieved on what show is this a impress show i'm beyond that now like i'm known in l.a and [ __ ] like it's kind of nice to be farther enough in your career where the store trusts you and you can take big swings and like i'm a man i'm fine you know but when you're coming up and the you're not a paid regular yet it's a problem for a lot of comics so they never write because they always want to kill so they'll do the same 15 minutes everywhere they go yeah for years and years and years so you got to know where to do that and if it's a bar show why the [ __ ] are you trying to smash at some bar show that you're not getting paid for work on some new stuff yeah you're getting a hamburger you don't owe them it depends if you're a one-year comic or whatever okay you need to get your chops and all that but if you're five years in
and you're doing the same 15 yeah every show you're you're wasting these different types of shows yeah well people get scared you know and there's like two arguments like yeah you get scared but also if you just do that same act over and over again then you're bobby lee and you have 15 minutes of [ __ ] thunder yeah you know bobby's set when he does a set it's so tight because he's been doing it for 150 years he wants to we've talked about it and it's kind of a like he he has ideas but he he likes crushing and yeah but bobby's he's like bigger than comedy too he has the podcast and it's upside down oh that makes sense you like [ __ ] with your thumbs i'm like yeah so he's he wants to write new stuff well he's he's the unique he's the one that like you you could point to there's a guy that should have done a special long [ __ ] time ago but he's also there's a lesson to be learned from that as well just performance wise because i'll see him you know i see him at the store all the time and i get tired of stuff very quickly and when i see bobby uh breathe new life into bits that i've heard for a while yeah it is kind of a reminder to me like how to sell the jokes like you don't have to give up on some good bit is a good bit right there are great performance elements to learn from bobby you know he knows all the beats he knows all the beats he knows where all the corners are he knows how to make it different each time so there is nuance in that even yeah um but he started doing his show in brea where he does new material and so he's starting to like chip away at that he needs a whole second hour so he could put an hour out so he needs training wheels i've been telling bobby just like why don't you why don't you have a special everybody has been but he's been fine without it yeah i think we just selfishly want to see it as friends and comedians we wanted to do better yeah yeah that's all it is you know and you also when someone's as good as bobby is you want the world to know like
that this is you know like people that have seen him know but i want everybody to see it yeah but it's a thing you know it's i think there's a lot of uh anxiety and fear in almost every profession that people do i mean how many people work for someone and become like a very valuable asset to the company but really feel like they're not getting appreciated enough and they have to decide to make a leap and go on their own there's a lot of people like that and then maybe maybe you have a wife and children or a mortgage or a family you're taking care of family members that depend on you and you can't really take that chance you don't know how you take that chance and also take care of all your obligations it's [ __ ] hard man that's why comedy is a young person's game in the beginning yeah in the struggling days like if you want to start comedy at 50 [ __ ] i know good luck bro you ever have those guys [Laughter] after a show they'll come up to you to pick your brain they're like hey i'm a programmer from oracle i'm like 47 years old i've been writing jokes and like you don't want to tell them that it it's too late it's not too late it can be done like robert schumer robert schimmel who's one of the best ever robert didn't start doing stand-up until he was 36. oh wow yeah yeah and he was [ __ ] great anything can be done yeah it's just stand-up's a lot of hard work no matter what age you are dean delray didn't start until he was deep in his 40s he's inspiring too just to see because like i remember when he started like i was i was many years in when he started and like you don't know you don't think someone because dean's an outlier most guys that age starting will do it for three years and like i'm out yeah but he i think he does like 300 sets a year he tries to hit a certain amount every year he's um you know he's an interesting case because you know he had a long history of performing you know as a musician you ever hear him sing a whole
lot of rosie he's great yeah great dude he's really good yeah like he put uh him and burr were doing um what they would do is they would do uh music during the day before a show so they would show up at like a big iconic venue and they would set up drums and recording and they would [ __ ] just sing and and for the fun of it because burr is really good on the drums oh yeah he gets lessons and everything i heard when he was doing his show at the kia forum they rent it out so he paid for the place so he just brought his he got a drum lesson in the kia forum what's the kia form that's the great western forum uh yeah same form yeah l.a for him yeah yeah is this him let me hear this [Music] this is tribute to bon scott [Music] [Music] he's really talented like legitimately good as a singer and so for him you know he was like man this [ __ ] music business is a goddamn grind yeah you know i'm i'm friends with uh the band honey honey the formerly band formerly known as honey honey and suzanne santos a really good friend of mine and i went to see her live the other day in austin and you know i i know how talented she is i've known her for at least 10 years but when you see someone live that's that talented and that good and she sings and she plays musical instruments she's playing violin she's playing guitar and singing she's so [ __ ] good i'm like how is she not famous how is she not like uber famous like taylor swift style famous like there's plenty of people like that art is just strange and that it's subjective and like there's some music i listen to some artists where i'm like they just resonate with a certain vibration with me where i'm like this should be the biggest thing in the world right and it's not yeah and i will do whatever i can to blast it out if i like a song and all that and you you want that for them but i think all of art is just you are compelled to do it and
it's just bursting out of you and whatever happens happens but like like the special i'm proud of it hopefully it does what it does i don't have any expectations like i just made the thing that i wanted to make without any interference um and and i'm very zen and peaceful about that that's awesome yeah that's what it's all about yeah keep doing that yeah keep doing that you'll be great i mean you're already doing well keep doing that and you'll do better that's that's just really what it's about and the beautiful thing about having something out there like you did and putting it on youtube is it's super accessible people are listening to this right now they're going to pause this on spotify and go over to your youtube page and they're going to watch your show and they can get it like that that's partly why i did it because if it was there it is bam we're getting it see look how quick that was is there volume yeah give me some volume freddy prince red fox andy kaufman we're looking at eddie murphy all the the names on the wall but i thought i came up with all my bits of this place why not just shoot it here and every time i see the store in specials it's shot in only one of the rooms the main room the original room or the belly room i wanted to do all three the hat trick and i didn't want to dress it up or smoke it out i just wanted to show the place for what it is home [Music] oh this is awesome that's so cool it does annie that's awesome is that fit simmons yeah nice [Music] [ __ ] yeah look at that bobby brings you up so yeah i go on the road sometimes and uh sometimes i bring comics on the road this guy i used to bring on the road and he got too strong i can't follow along he's really says that funny this guy is literally one of the best joke riders in this country i love him for he-man
everybody [Applause] yeah yeah bobby has this weird thing you went up dressed like you would dress on any given night yes that's cool too like you go a baseball hat i didn't want to make it precious and and i hope that people respond to that like there's something nice about uh the look behind the curtain you know yeah and there's no smoke and mirrors right and i like that they're not there for me they're there for probably a bigger person on the lineup right in all the rooms i'm probably like the most medium guy on these lineups or whatever so there's something romantic about making strangers laugh yeah they're not my crowd and so are you doing how many minutes in each room like like 14 14 15 yeah oh so you're doing it like a regular set yeah these are just my regular sets nice so it's all about capturing so you just put three regular sets together and strung them together into one show yeah nice and you see me walk around and [ __ ] like dude way to go this is cool you [ __ ] managed to do something unique i like it i love it because i knew i was due for another special and i was gonna do it like my other one but i'm like who cares yeah you know if i did this material at a theater like who gives a [ __ ] there's so many specials and i thought i am a store guy that is unique not everyone is passed at the store um it's i have access to this building and this just elevates it you see you see like gesso next bringing me up in the main room um bobby brings me up in the or you see yeah these titans of comedy uh and it's just a regular night at the store because people don't realize that this is a hub for us we're all on the road and then we all come to this place to to work out and did you tell like jaisalneck that you were filming i got clear yeah i i had everybody that's cool wow that's really cool dude he nailed it what a great idea it's a
really great idea and it's interesting like all the years and years of people doing comedy nobody figured out how to do that dude it's almost like has anyone done this i can't believe i'm the only one to think of this it's like i invented the wheel or something like how has nobody done this it's a really good idea but what's crazy is cause i did it on my own um i had to do like tech stuff too i had to figure it out so i had to learn how to plug into the sound board i was literally hooking up audio equipment backstage before i'm going on hitting record they introduce me i go out there i was like in the [ __ ] i was like half tech guy half artist to get this thing done wow but that's what you got to do yeah why not i think people make stand-up um we're taking the ownership back i think there's this shift happening because before we just trusted the system we would show up do the thing make the product and we would just perform and that's it and now we're having to be entrepreneurs as well we're having to take ownership of our own business and careers well when you see guys like schultz that sort of pioneer that level of hustling like he hustled so hard and put his stuff on youtube and became like this giant theater selling act yeah because of that yeah did it all in front of our face why everybody watched him do it all on his own that's like guys like that they set the bar and they change people's ideas of what's possible if you're really smart and you have a really good focus and you you come up with a game plan yeah there's too many tools at our disposal nowadays that if you are not doing stuff like what schultz is doing or this or doing it on your own then that is your fault yeah uh if you were in the 70s or 80s you were kind of beholden to the system you couldn't reach the masses on your own so you had to have the right person like you at the tonight show i was even thinking about this remember back in the day the the the path for a stand-up you would try to get on the tonight show that was like early stand up right and then you would try to
get a sitcom say like in the 90s you would try to get a sitcom act in the sitcom and then that would boost you as a comedian yes but nowadays if you are a stand-up comedian and you get on a sitcom nobody cares like nobody watches anything anymore it's so fractured yeah the viewership that if even if you get on an abc sitcom as a stand-up no one really cares i feel like podcasting and this world is the new acting so now when i get an audition and they go hey it's like three months in atlanta it's it's like a very small show or some cable thing that's great if you just want to be an actor but it's not going to help your stand up right right right whereas back in the day it would well it'll help you a little like there's some guys that get on tv shows and they they start doing really well on the road yeah like who um that's a good question it used to be rick's the only way right so it became like a well-worn path and everybody would want to get on a sitcom you got on a sitcom or on some other show like soup the soup or you know like some kind of a show where you could be on television and showcase that you have like a funny personality and then that would be an ad to get to come to the clubs like stanhope said that best we were talking about doing tv projects and he was let's be honest like every time you do a tv project it's really just an ad to get people to come see at the clubs i was like you're 100 right you're 100 right but the the problem with that way is that everybody wanted to do a specific kind of comedy because you wanted to get a television show so like you wouldn't try to be like i remember there's a guy who was the host of an open mic night when i was up and coming and he was like a local headliner in boston local professional and he was telling me to stop swearing and telling me that i should stop talking about sex and talk about things that make people uncomfortable and i said but but my favorite comedians all do that i go like my favorite comedian so like sam kinnison and dice clay he
goes i got news for you you're not dice clay and i was like well how do you become dice clay like what are you saying like you're saying that there's only one style of comedy even though the best ones are like richard pryor or eddie murphy who didn't follow that at all like what are you saying this was this is me back then trying to figure out what was going on here and so the the path was and jay leno still believes this to this to this day we actually talked about it when we're doing that comedy story documentary he still thinks this day you got to be clean and that's that's the way you get the the big long market you know you're just going to get short-term success of your dirty i'm like this is such a crazy conversation like clean or dirty like i do not give a [ __ ] some of my favorite comedians are clean gaffigan clean genius brilliant brian regan brian reagan clean genius brilliant nate barghozzi clean genius brilliant it doesn't matter it's just good yeah it's just we don't care like with like those guys to us are it's there's no the same it's the same it's just funny yes however you're funny it's funny however you're funny it's it's just are you what are you doing like you're just doing comedy like i don't want to tell you how to do comedy however you do if you want to do clean comedy [ __ ] yeah i like watching it's hilarious i love the fact that like if i'm watching a gaffigan special my 12 year old walks into the room i don't have to go hold on i have to pause you know if cat williams decides i'm like hey get out of the house you're not ready for this get out of here get out of here you know was news radio big for you like news radio was like medium big yeah it's like i was just one of many people on a very talented ensemble i was only one of eight people did that help with stand-up though were people coming out because yeah a little bit yeah it helped yeah what was the first big thing do you think it was probably fear factor well that was after though right but that was 2001. fear factor was 2001 right after news radio that's when things really started that's when
i really started selling out really well but it was like uh like some people knew me as a stand-up and some people just knew me as the fear factor guy and they a lot of people would get upset you were telling me backstage like the early days when you're doing fear factors so upset because they had this idea of who you were from the show yeah and i had these very controversial bits like about like and nicole smith and her husband and people like what are you doing but what i think is so funny is that the audience is like we expect better from the fear factor hoes we thought he'd be clean they thought it was because well i was clean on tv that makes sense to me it's like but people get programmed to like think a certain way like yeah this is okay and this is polite and this is not polite and that you you know you shouldn't joke around about certain things because at work i'm not allowed to joke about certain things and on television they don't joke about certain things so if you're at a club how are you allowed to joke about those things because it's a club yeah but i know they don't want to hear that though they come to see the guy from tv it's not a lot of people yeah but it was a percentage of people but i was like look i could either become a different person and only cater to those people which a lot of guys did this is the point a lot of guys they developed an act specifically to attract the television world but that's fleeting if you are but it's not eating but it's not fleeting this is what you're wrong no no no no in the day when you were tim allen if you could beat tim allen to get on home improvement you're one of the [ __ ] richest guys on earth like those guys like the jerry seinfeld's when they developed a show they were the owner of the show they were the star of the show and they got ownership in the show they made preposterous amounts of money and that's what everybody was chasing and a lot of guys weren't happy like richard jenny was like notoriously not happy because he never became that sort of jim carrey movie star guy even though he was for comics he was one of the best comics alive he was so [ __ ] good man why do you think that is i know you're a big jenny guy like what do you think that
disconnect why did it not happen i think you know i think for a lot of comics there's a lot of self-hate right and so you're chasing love when you're doing stand-up you're chasing the love of the audience the way you get that love is to come up with the funniest [ __ ] and some guys develop funny [ __ ] just because they're funny and some guys develop funny [ __ ] because they just really want that love and that's the best way to get to it and someone you know guys like a combination of those things people different people that do the art are doing it for different reasons like i know women that do it that came from a great family and then i have some of my funniest friends who also came from [ __ ] up families when i talk to them about it and i think for a girl it's probably even harder because it's not a situation where if you're in front of a bunch of guys like it's not a situation where you get treated equally the moment you get on stage they don't just go boy can't wait to see this really funny chick they go oh i hope she's funny right yeah but i think there's like there's a prejudice that men have towards women controlling the microphone and then also talking about certain things like women who have opinions on politics like a lot of guys they don't want to hear that yeah you know it's it's a weird thing it's like i think it's like there's another several steps if a girl does stand up yeah don't you think yeah also though i think that happens just with any comedian who takes the stage and is not known you're starting from zero or a deficit for sure there is this like is this who this guy thinks he's funny you gotta you gotta prove yourself funny you're unfunny until proven funny for sure but don't you think there is a prejudice that women aren't as funny that exists in the world yeah so they go up for the most part with at least skepticism from some audience members yeah yeah which is too bad you know because it's just it's it's not it doesn't go across sex lines it just doesn't some of the best comics that we know are women it doesn't i saw a whitney set whitney has a new
set she's about to film dude it's [ __ ] brilliant it's [ __ ] great you saw him when she came through town saw her at the paramount it was really funny when was that a month ago okay somewhere around that yeah she's about to shoot i wonder if she's she's hot right now dude she's her material is smooth she's she's in a groove right now it's like she's so comfortable on stage it's really fun but she's a perfect example like she doesn't play up her looks at all you know like whitney downplays it if anything she's always got like pink hair hair's all [ __ ] up she's wearing a jean jacket like elvis she's also kind of an inspiring person where you look at someone who just doesn't do stand-up like as a grinder has always been like sells the show is always moving always doing things she grinds so hard dude she's she's one of the people i'll have a conversation with her she's i'm about to make a documentary on violence i'm going what the [ __ ] are you doing yeah where do you have the time for this and so she was uh telling me that i didn't even know about this there's some crazy [ __ ] sport they do in england i think they do it once a year or something like that where was it england or italy oh is it like rugby but it's almost like they fight yes they fight but they have a ball and they beat the [ __ ] out of each yeah yeah kind of a lighter too yeah um what is that do you remember what we're talking about jamie my buddy there was a thing i wish i could get a hold of her right now he wanted to do like uh a bachelor party and go to italy to watch this but i wasn't able to yeah this is yes so it's florentine football they're calling oh my god like dude it's full on fights with a ball it's like the craziest version of uh a soccer or a football type game like you're allowed to hold on to it so is it rugby and then they have mma matches in the middle of it they're teeing off on each other look [ __ ] they're [ __ ] choking each other oh my god he's grabbing the guy's nose gouging his eyeballs out gouging his nose did you see that [ __ ] i mean it's basically simulated war with a ball do they but no weapons this is
crazy there's just a bunch of dudes squaring off in the middle of this [ __ ] sand dirt and they get one guy gets tackled from behind by another guy my question is where's the ball this is what's so crazy it's like it's it's team fighting and you just look for a guy who's wearing red pants and they look for a guy who's wearing white pants and they [ __ ] each other up would you play that no you you have to be a reckless person to play that you're getting hit from behind by someone on the other team that is crazy like these are the most psycho [ __ ] human beings alive look they're beating the [ __ ] out of each other with no pads in the dirt so you're gonna get sand in your eyes do you think that's like christmas time for doctors i didn't see a [ __ ] referee anywhere in sight so no one's stopping anything right i guess that's a referee is that a referee but you're not seeing anybody like break these fights up so what do they do like how do they dictate whether or not a fight is over do you let a guy just keep beating the [ __ ] out of a guy or does someone come along and stop it because it seems to me like there's people just sitting on people punching them in the face and there's nobody watching it almost seems like the ball is secondary like if you're watching if you go to a ufc fight herb dean is like hovering over the action when dudes are getting whaled on he's ready to like jump in mark goddard has his [ __ ] eyes on the action ready to pull the trigger at any moment you know they're not there's no apparent goal either they're just throwing the ball against the fence when they get to the other side like like yes like king me this is crazy this is crazy this is just an excuse to beat the [ __ ] out of each other but these people i mean they're getting really hurt if you're having like gang mma fights like that you're going to get really hurt because people can hit you while you're you're getting hit from one side and the other side at the same time like the odds of you getting really hurt are pretty [ __ ] high so how do you play calcio florentino
the teams change sides with every kashi is that i say katya kacha or goal scored it is important to shoot with precision because every time a player throws or kicks the ball above the net the opposing team is awarded with a half katya the game ends after 50 minutes and the team which scored the most kacha wins so it's interesting so it comes from florentine it seems like that's the only place it is you know it's also a place famous for eating meat oh yeah yeah you're a fan of that steak florentine yeah there's a style of of cooking in uh fl it's really it's like caveman style like their style of cooking uh meat is just meat over fire it's like they have meat over fire down to an art yeah bis taka de florentine um just google that and you get all these italian videos of guys showing you how to cook a steak have you done it over hardwood [ __ ] you have done it yeah yeah that's how i cook them you don't do the grill or just i do the grill sometimes sometimes i cook it in a traeger i got a pellet grill and what i do is it's called a reverse sear so i'll put it in that and i'll get it up to like 115 degrees internal temperature and then i pull it and then i have a cast iron skillet and i take the cast iron scale i get it really hot and then i sear it on the outside i usually do like a minute and a half maybe each side so you'll finish it on the calculator yes and then i'll let it rest here but the point is like that's when i'm pressed for time but if i'm not pressed for time i cook over wood so i get dried oak and i start like a little tiny fire and i get the oak set up and i get a crackling i get it turn into coals and then i put a couple of fresh pieces on it to keep it keep it smoky and fresh and then i slide that steak over the top i got one of them argentine grills yeah crank kitty crank getty cranky what does the crank do the crank makes it higher or lower okay so i can have the stake way above the fire and i have a little
probe in it and so i have a probe that tells me the outside temperature and it tells me the temperature of the meat and i can see it on my phone this thing called meter oh that's cool look at that so i'm watching it cook slowly over over these hardwood logs and then at the end i sear it when you cook like that and you eat it it has this insane flavor of smoke like you get this like real fresh smoky flavor in the meat it's fantastic and there's like there's a thing i think in your brain there's some weird like uh trigger that goes off when you have meat that's cooking over fire i think it's like programmed into us from all the years when people would have successful hunts and they would cook meat over fire they would feel good like everyone's going to eat we're going to survive another day because we were successful because it's hard to be successful that's like the feeling you get when you catch a fish right you ever even if you're not gonna if you're gonna release the fish because i feel like i got one yeah like there's something about that that i think is primarily connected to the idea that back in the day when it was hard to get food if you caught that fish you were [ __ ] very excited because you're going to live yeah you're going to live so like when you watch like bass angler sportsman society a bunch of guys in these tournaments and they're like look at it and they're holding up by the lips and everybody's cheering they're basically playing a game you know where they're not even they're releasing the fish yeah they're just [ __ ] with them and you know holding them up and showing everybody got these [ __ ] look at these dummies if i wanted to they're they're eating but i'm gonna let them go because it's fun it's sporting like what a weird place to be to be a bass yeah you know like you just you're hunted down but you're not like you've got clothes that get splashed oh thank god right if you're any other if you're a trout it's the same thing like a lot of trouts that get released these barbless hooks so they know they're going to release them before they ever catch them they don't eat them like a lot of these fly
fisherman guys they just release them so how do you season the steaks what's your perfect steak what do you do salt that's it no pepper no pepper straight up salt just salt that's all i do like i used to yeah kosher salt is probably the best because it's nice and coarse you know but i also got this stuff recently i think it's called o.g og steak seasoning from one of those uh texas i think it's all pit master or something like that i think that's the name of the company and it's uh it's a great blend of like garlic salt a little bit of pepper a little bit of regular salt or garlic powder yeah no that's not it it's just called og my problem i was trying to do cast iron skillet the steak yeah then i would season it with salt and pepper and everything you know the coarse grain but then it would always come off on the pan the see like yeah some of it's going to come off in the pan too much well then you could add salt to the end if you want more salt but i mean you wanted to kind of like i thought that it would just sort of grill on it and like crust and be fine when i no you're going to get some of it to come off in the pan but you can't be precious can't be precious just salt bae it after it'll be yeah if you want a salt bay yeah but i do sprinkle a little um um i think it's from i think it's from bali somebody gave me some salt it's really interesting salt it's got like a there's different salts have different flavors to them which is weird yeah you know like there's a cam it's a company in san francisco i think it might be even called the san francisco salt company but they have different salts they have salts with like um different herbs in them and you know like truffles they have salt with truffles in it which is delicious yeah you know you ever have salt with truffles never had a truffle salt i've had like mac and everything it's just an interesting flavor i love truffles but you add them to stuff like steak like with the salt it's nice it's just
but i don't like to do too much with meat especially like um like a beef steak if i use elk one of the things i love with elk there's this thing called black blackened saskatchewan rub that traeger makes i think that's what it's called saskat it's something black in saskatchewan but it's like uh i i need to know what all the ingredients are because i just know it tastes great it's definitely got some salt in it it looks like it has some pepper in it too but it's like a blackened crust and for elk i found nothing better it's the best so i just season it on the outside with that and then i cook it to a little i like to cook that to like a hundred degrees i don't bring that to like 110 i get it to like 100 degrees so then when i sear it i don't it doesn't overcook like you can't overcook wild game because it doesn't have any fat in it it's very lean so you have to make sure you nail the temperature it's really important some people do too much with meat and steak like uh they'll come with the sauce and everything i just want to taste the meat yeah i don't want to taste the peppercorn like it ruins it to me it well it's definitely a different thing it doesn't ruin it because it's still delicious in my mind but it's a different thing it's like you can have just a piece of meat with salt on it which is one thing or you can have like chimichurri sauce which is another thing you know it's awesome yeah chimichurri sauce on a piece of meat is [ __ ] delicious but i feel like the chimichurri is doing a lot of the heavy lifting there in the flavor profile i don't know man i think it's a [ __ ] group effort i really do but it's a different thing yeah like a1 steak sauce is [ __ ] good it hasn't been around that long because it sucks a1 steak sauce is [ __ ] good a1 steak sauce you can take a waffle house steak and just squirt some of that on it and it's pretty damn edible it'll make anything delicious i'm sure it's filled with sugar we're not arguing about nutrition do you ever have hp what's uh hp sauce yeah yeah i think it's sort of like a1 adjacent
i would have that in canada for some reason they love hp out there i probably have had it i probably have but i mean that's a different thing right if you're eating with a steak sauce what's your favorite steak place in austin oh austin's a good spot um we did eddie v's a lot we were there the other day yeah eddie b's is [ __ ] because it's like real old school you go in there it's like a classic steakhouse i love that i was wearing a t-shirt i'm like oh [ __ ] i'm the schlub at this place i didn't know how fancy it was well it's not necessarily fancy like you can most certainly go there and i know but i don't want to be the only guy in a t-shirt at the [ __ ] steak place but it doesn't matter luckily i saw another guy with a t-shirt i was like all right cool austin's pretty laid back with that pretty [ __ ] laid back they're not going to make me wear a loner blazer dog sir i would not go one time i did that it was i was graduating high school and my rich friend he's like hey we're having dinner at the columbia tower in seattle i'm like oh okay cool so i thought i'd dress nice i thought it's nice for what i you know think i go up to the top floor of the columbia tower and they're like sir you're gonna have to wear this loner blazer and i just i'm like swimming in this i look like a nba like a 98 draft class i would go just for the loner blazer so i'm having to eat this it's so embarrassing it's like the blazer of shame i'm eating with all these like this rich family and i'm just a guy with a hand-me-down blazer that i'm swimming in eating this food that i never get on my own what a weird rule like who was this off-putting to like you're just shaming me you're just making everyone look over their shoulder this little boy doesn't know any better like give me a pass if i was a 35 year old man give me the loner blazer and i deserve to be shamed but i'm 18 at the time like i don't need this
why didn't your friends tell you what a setup i guess but i mean when you're eight no when you're 18 you're not like hey wear a blazer this place is fancy but how do your friends not know that you have to wear a blade did they not know either or do they just magically have blazers on i guess they magically happen maybe they're so fancy they always they're [ __ ] with you know let's make him feel bad like do you have one my size no we we don't we just have the shame blizzard the shame blazer we have one size fits all yeah i mean if you're gonna have big people and little people just get a giant one [ __ ] those little people with no blazers yeah well i made everyone there happy i guess by having the blazer so hilariously stupid what's interesting is like you could be at that same restaurant and there's no rules for women in that way like a woman could have a sleeveless shirt on that's a good point and a woman could have a skirt on where you could see her legs and as long as she looks good it's totally cool like the the standards right for the women's yeah is there a loner female equivalent of the blazer no equivalent no equivalent i'm sure there are places that don't want women to expose their shoulders like they don't want sleeveless shirts i'm sure there must be like some elegant gatherings where they're trying to discourage hoes from shining up well some places will do the hat thing like i've been to a steak place and they're like you can't have a hat on yeah yeah i've had that before yeah um do you think they do that to jay-z though or i don't know man they do it to me i really yeah they do tell me like my head off yeah yeah but i want to it's like they're really sure that's your rules it's just you you're establishing it it's like not like i'm like man what can you keep my head on i'm like sure no problem yeah you have you're good that way but you should you know respect the business they're trying to create an atmosphere of civility yeah you know and they they feel like if they discourage some kind of attire you know maybe they'll discourage a casualness that would lead to like more
incivility i mean that's just the thought process but well you want to have a nice place you want it to look good you want people to dress nice i get it i think part of it is the mental escapism where everyone is dressed nice it's almost a throwback to mad men like you know what i mean like it's a nice diner and when there's a guy with like a tap out hat and like a white beater maybe it ruins the anniversary dinner but what if it's a girl who looks like a porn star then that's fine everyone's on board and then everyone's on board everyone with a short skirt yeah yeah they go here's a blazer and big old titans just presenting for the world tattoo yeah everyone is okay with that yeah i mean that's real that's we have gender rules when it comes to attire i wonder if a man can claim that he's uh he's a male he identifies as a male but he identifies as a male who dresses like a female can you get is that next could you like what if it's hot out and you don't want to wear a blazer but you do have to go to this place for lunch i think that is just a political minefield that they don't want to deal with like they would rather just like if you showed up like me and a sundress that would be fine i think with flip-flops on and just explain that you're a woman i wouldn't have to explain anything like no one would touch it just because right they don't yeah it's just not worth that especially if you were like super obviously in a dress it wasn't anything ambiguous about the gender of the clothing you're wearing it's not like a toga yeah if i was wearing a sundress and i tried to have dinner they wouldn't make me wear a blazer okay what about kilts that's a curveball dude that's the curveball i think we need to try this and see what happens kilter the curveball like what if you have like a beautiful tie on a nice dress shirt they would allow you to kilt but your balls are hanging out well you don't know that but what if they are don't go looking don't be rude respect my choice what i want to wear you get offended you go why are you
looking yeah i'm just trying to have a fine steak here don't the steak the the steak folks don't don't the kilt folks have uh odd shoes as well odd shoes yeah don't they wear like a specific kind of shoes when they wear kilts i think they have like their socks yeah yeah they have like those let's get physical olivia newton john socks very specific some kind of hiking boot yeah look at those i mean that's a ridiculous outfit i mean that is fancy look at that i wonder why they did that i mean i guess it's easier to run around in and if you're going to fight with a sword or something like that like those people that the scottish people they're wild [ __ ] people yeah they probably developed a kilt because it'll let you uh let you move your legs easier than pants like if you if you think about like running and stuff like you don't if you could move around like in a kilt you have no restrictions if you have shorts they have to be made right like if you ever wear shorts that bind and you can move funny and they're annoying or pants like if you wear pants you can't even pick your knee up above your waist everything's all bound up and [ __ ] they probably wore that for battle yeah a lot of mobility within the kilt plus they could heist it up and show you their [ __ ] that's a power ball [ __ ] all baby a sudden he became a pirate but you know what i mean like those are wild warring people no wonder why they had kilts on would you wear one [ __ ] yeah yeah i'm down for a kilt there was a dude named melvin manhoof he was like one of the most uh terrifying strikers that ever fought in pride and uh melvin manhoof would fight in like uh his uh shorts he was like a wicked kickboxer out of holland wicked and built like a [ __ ] brick [ __ ] house but his uh his thing was like it he didn't have shorts on he almost had like a skirt on like his everything had like all these uh openings and i don't know what you would call it there is a word for it the way they did it but
almost like where gladiators would wear like almost like a skirt yeah that's what he would fight in like you could say and gladiator kind of that thing that's melvin manhoof so you still see those things it's like he kind of has underwear on or it kind of has shorts on but not really like everything's just if you find a video of him fighting it's like it's all swinging loose and because of that like he had uh his his shorts never bound up like sometimes you see thai guys fight they actually touched oh that's him wearing shorts that's an mma fight because he had to wear for mma google uh k1 melvin manhoef there so there he's got that's when he's wearing it see it if you see him when he's fighting does anybody else wear that or just him this dude is 185 pounds by the way and he knocked out mark hunt with one punch which is [ __ ] crazy watch this boom i mean mark hunt is one but you see those shorts wild shorts mark hunt was one of the most durable heavyweights of all time and melvin manhoef is like easily 60 pounds lighter than him and he knocked him out with one punch he was a monster but that's what he wore these like it was like a skirt so they have that kind of weight disparity in uh pride did some wild [ __ ] man they did some wild [ __ ] they had freaks fights like freak fights where they had um noguera who was the pride heavyweight champion who was a an immensely talented jiu jitsu black belt he fought this guy bob sapp who was 375 pounds with abs i'm not kidding like if you've never seen bob sapp before when you see him fight you don't believe it's a real person yeah you think it's a video game character or this is cgi i'm not kidding yeah you need to see this bob sapp versus nogueira he's so big so big and he pile drives nogueira within the first like opening seconds of the fight like a literal pile driver 375 pound man driving another uh 240 pound man's head first into the ground look at the size of bob sapp yeah dude look at the [ __ ] size of him so this is the beginning of the fight watch this pile driver
boom this is how the fight starts so noguera literally gets his spine crushed in the very first seconds of the fight fighting a guy who's a legitimate 130 pounds heavier than him look at the size of the guy and they had a lot of fights like this like bob sapp wasn't um the most talented uh mma fighter but he was certainly one of the biggest yeah i think he great strength right there well he had some talent he did he did some skill he worked out you could you couldn't survive if you just had brute strength he definitely trained in martial arts and he trained with uh my friend maury smith who was the ufc heavyweight champion and was he won multiple championships in multiple different organizations maurice was a legit striker very very talented very talented fighter and he trained him so he was training bob sapp when bob sapp was kickboxing too but he was just a freak like you were like what am i seeing yeah he was so big dude he would he would start walking towards guys with his fists up and you're like how is that a real person yeah so is that how bright uh pride was just sort of freak shows yeah yeah they had hongman choi fought fedor emelianenko fedor emilianenko is arguably the best heavyweight of all time there's a real good argument that he's the best heavyweight tim in my book it's like there's a few guys in the running for the best heavyweight of all time one of them is fabrizio verdum he gets overlooked because he tapped almost everybody he tapped nogueira he tapped cain velasquez uh any tap fedor he was the first guy to beat fedor and fedor went on this long run he caught him in a triangle and tapped him so in my mind he's got to be in the argument for one of the greatest heavyweights of all time too so you got fedor him and cain velasquez those are the three guys that most people when they look at the greatest heavyweights of all time they look at those guys and then maybe francis ingano if he continues his title run one day he'll be thought of that way as well but it's like and then of course stipe miocic who's like the most accomplished heavyweight of all time so those i guess yeah you have to say those four those those are the guys that everybody when there's if there's an argument who's the
greatest heavyweight of all time it's hard to say and you might have to go the thing is it's like all of them are really good for but fabricio verdum tapped all of them there's something about that yeah there's something like he tapped all of them accepts deep bass dp knocked him out sounds like maybe stipe is the goat but either way it's like there's there's a a number of guys and nogueira's in that group noguera in his primus in that group and they were all over at pride and they had crazy crazy fights so pride it's not around anymore no the ufc bought pride and uh when the ufc purchased pride they basically they just closed shop they were gonna keep it running for a while but i think it was so chaotic and i think they decided to just absorb it into the company and they took a lot of the fighters the only guy they didn't take was fedor well there was a few other guys but mark hunt came over from pride i think mark hunt like he he wanted to fight the ufc they wanted to buy him out and he said no i want to fight it out in the ufc and then there was a few other guys that came over as well but it was um cro cop of course but it was you know the end of an era unfortunately for people who are fans of the sport there was something about the pride era that was uh a really unique time in mma like we'd have to watch it at four o'clock in the morning because it was aaron in japan oh yeah that was a japanese company yeah it was a japanese company so it was live on pay-per-view we'd have to watch it you know at four in the morning and then they started they would have fights and then they wouldn't they wouldn't show it on tv until like like a week later or even more sometimes and so you'd have to stay away from the internet because everybody already had the results and they posted all the spoilers it was interesting it was like they were figuring it out but the japanese did some gangster [ __ ] they had freak show fights they had a lot of freak show fights yeah it's kind of like early days of yeah yeah i remember like yeah when i was a kid and mma was coming
up it was just insanity it was like street fighter yeah they have uh big giant guys fight small guys all the time yeah i was like battle bots with humans well they just like the the aspect of like the freak show like there's this woman gabby garcia she's an enormous brazilian jiu jitsu black belt she's really big she's like more than 200 pounds like maybe 230 maybe even 240. she's really big and they'll have her fight like a maid it was kind of like in its infancy it was like will karate beat sumo and that's what it was all about like will the art form of karate triumph they still kind of have that but they they had like aki bono versus hoist gracie and hois gracie is like 180 maybe 190 akibono might be 400 pounds and i'm not kidding jesus see if you can find that this is like the fact that this fight was was a legal fight to take place like like the nevada state athletic commission would not sanction a fight between someone who's a legit 210 220 pounds heavier oh this is bob sapp versus uh aki bono see if you can find aki bone because that's two giants see aki bono versus hoist gracie um spoiler alert boys gracie wins that's what a bad [ __ ] is he yeah there it is the top one yeah that's it so uh hoist caught him in an arm bar is this the beginning of it it's where it shows from the beginning and he taps he taps on an arm armbar but if you you know the thing about being a guy that big is like how much gas in the tank do you have yeah that guy's so overweight as much as he has skill and much as he's a sumo guy and you know he's probably been competing his whole life like he's he's too big you you can't you're not going to be able to compete against a guy like hoyce gracie hoyce gracie can survive see and and he's also really comfortable fighting off of his back so he let the dude rush him it's it's funny like i always know how old i am when i watch like old sonics
because i'm from seattle like i'll watch sean camp slam dunk compilations and they're all in like 360p you know like oh this is pretty blurry yeah that resolution really dates you running oh all my highlights are low def but look what hoist did like right away pulls clinch from the guard and then he's standing up with the guy now he's got the guy grappling and even as he throws a kick he falls onto his back like he's allowing the guy to lay on top of him and he's obviously strategized for what he would do when he's off of his back and he's going to isolate an arm so he's isolated aki bono's left arm and he's pulling his foot across the face and akibono knows what he's doing but he can't stop him and so he pulls it back down again and now he gets his left leg over the top of his right foot and he locks it in place and he's got a [ __ ] arm bar and this dude's [ __ ] and he's fighting a guy 200 pounds lighter than him but the guy knows better technique and he taps did you see that elbow bad elbow fall guy got slapped slammed and he landed on his elbow and zombo went the wrong way i don't want to see him i'm not good like i still haven't seen the toms i can't watch it like that somebody showed me one today a kid blowing his hand off with a firecracker and he drinks a beer while he's holding his hand up and his hand is destroyed and he drinks a beer don't show it yeah don't do it don't do it i mean i can't don't you can't do it jamie i saw him you know i didn't know what it was until i saw it and then i was like oh god damn i didn't want to see that bobby will do that he he has a stomach for that and he's like look i'm like i can't i can't look at this yeah the dude literally blew his hand off which happens you know you got [ __ ] it was a good thing at the store when you came back it was fun yeah yeah is that going to be a recurring thing or probably yeah yeah when i feel like it yeah yeah it's fun it was uh it was fun cause like i got passed when you weren't there i think you're doing the ice house and stuff yeah and there was definitely it was it was this
golden era before kofit it's crazy you didn't really realize there's this quote like um like when you're with your neighborhood kid and stuff playing baseball you never notice the last day that you're all playing right before everyone moves away or whatever like and that kind of it felt that way with the store yeah we had a cool thing going on for a while yeah it was fun it's different it's still fun but it's a different thing but there was just monster insanity lineups when you were there that helped too um you know the the covet thing opened up a lot of people's eyes about what what they can just take away from you and um taking away people's ability to make a choice as to whether or not you want to go out or not five months into the pandemics eight months in the pandemic a year into the pandemic with the rest of the country there's all these spots that had opened up they made choices in la that i don't think they should have made and i think in retrospect most people would agree it's hard to be a monday morning quarterback right it's hard to look at it and go i would have done it differently but everybody's going to do that anyway but when there was no data that showed that outdoor shows were a problem and they still weren't allowing the comedy store to do outdoor shows yeah that's weird all that was horrible because i was doing outdoor shows and for some reason the comedy store they wouldn't allow them to do it like i would do it at these other yards they were in the parking lot and stuff but the store wasn't allowed to there was there was a arbitrary nature to some of it it was different some places than other places and it wasn't it was like there's a real problem when people have the ability to tell you what to do they
like it they like doing it and it has to be factored into anything that happens and when a bunch of people are saying why can't i make my own choices or what if i've already had the disease and i have the antibodies or what if you know i'm a very healthy young person and and they're like well you could spread it to other people well shouldn't those people isolate like what's the where's the logic in isolating everybody and does that even work is there any real data about what happens when communicable diseases like respiratory viruses which are highly contagious how is there ever a history of containing them ever no the answer is no no all the virologists tell you everyone's going to get it or you're going to be exposed to it you're you know you might be one of the rare few that has a very good natural immunity to it yeah very very few people apparently just they don't catch covet for whatever reason but that's kind of like with everything right with every disease there's a very small percentage you can't count on being one of those people i've had it twice same here yeah i've had it twice too so is it just a part of our lives now yeah everyone's gonna get it every year i think they say it's endemic we if we're lucky it goes the the way it's going with like omicron which is uh actually why am i giving advice i'm not a virologist i'm like laying it out like i know but what i've heard from people that do understand this stuff is that generally speaking and this is only generally speaking it could it doesn't have to go this way viruses become more contagious but less virulent because for the virus to survive really it wants to get as many hosts as possible so it kills the host that kind of defeats the purpose and it stops its ability to spread which is really wild because if you really think what's going on like imagine if that was demons and there was you know there was weak demons and really really powerful demons and the really powerful demons they would come and they would snatch young people and they would take them and they would take them and they would take
their souls and take them to hell it would be so terrifying but if the same exact amount of people get killed by a flu you don't really weird out like it's terrible but it's normal now if it's a novel virus like coronavirus then people get super anxious and afraid yeah you know or if it's heart disease which kills [ __ ] everybody there's so many people that are dying of that that doesn't even get discussed imagine if obesity imagine if sugar was a demon all those things were demons and they just you know some people are just better at not listening to the demons but they're always talking to you twinkies are good fame don't you want a twinkie come on or you pass by krispy kreme and the hot sign is on oh oh [ __ ] the hot i gotta eat there the hot side's on the hot signs on they're hot right now you get a hot krispy kreme one of them glazed babies i like seeing it float you know like floating the oil nice i like the uh chocolate cream filled i don't like [ __ ] i don't like filling you don't have to like it all right but that's your jam that's my jam the cream fell on the inside and the chocolate on the outside was oh my favorite guilty pleasure but i remember one time uh we went to maui and uh we stopped at krispy kreme and got like a not even one time i think we did it twice stopped and got like a dozen donuts we're picking out in the car and then by the time we got to the hotel which is like 20 minutes away we couldn't think we're so tired of sugar we just get crushed look at that look at the oh that's jamie vernon's instagram favorite this post like five years ago did you really when i did the same thing was this a um you were watching them apply the glaze is this what's happening i had a good meal and i walked by krispy kreme red light was on when i was when i was living out here i was right by a krispy kreme it was too close it's one of the best tasting things ever right can we agree on that oh yeah like a hot krispy kreme donut is undeniably good and worth a temporary
coma remember when it first came out there were like blinds for two hours to have this krispy kreme donut but i mean we are really legitimately surrounded by things that are terrible for you that are highly profitable whether it's fast food or sugar or any gas station you walk into it's filled with sugary drinks and sugary snacks and all that [ __ ] is terrible for you it's terrible when i was in middle school they just had all these like mountain dew machines coconuts terrible for you i had a i had a mountain dew when i was in florida i said [ __ ] it i'm gonna have a mountain dew remember mountain dew they'd be like i mean the urban legend with all the kids would be like yo don't drink mountain dew it has yellow five in it it'll make your balls shrink and all of us just like believed it i don't know who you were hanging out with i never got that was a thing whoever is around my generation there was this urban legend about yellow five that would make your balls small was it your whole generation or just your friends i i mean look it's a very localized group that i'm in that i am sort of extrapolating and thinking that it's a nation and worldwide but i know that when i was growing up there was this thing like mountain dew with yellow five it'll make it but i don't i mean it's all well [ __ ] that stuff is definitely not good for you that's the thing about like food colorings and you know natural flavorings and artificial flavorings it's like what's safe for you and what's not safe for you like you got to do your research on that and it's very complicated yes oh here it is i'm not crazy i didn't think you're crazy the urban myth states that this shrinks your testicles not to be confused with maroon 5. what the [ __ ] what the [ __ ] it has a five if you listen to maroon five it'll make your balls small oh that's hilarious it's a color in a five yeah what's that maroon's a color oh maroon 5 is a color oh it i'm just saying maroon and yellow both colors did you like what were your urban legends right but maroon 5 they're talking about the band 100
right so what are you saying it's never mind someone could get there was another one when i was growing up they would say marilyn manson removed his ribs so he could suck his own dick that's true uh look it says here samantha why are you drinking that mountain dew don't you know it has yellow five in it andrew do you honestly think they would sell a product that shrinks your testicles and not even put a warning label on it or even sell something like that at all samantha oh i never thought of it that way what is that what am i reading no idea does it terrible is that like an example conversation about yellow five but for sure there's some stuff that they put in food that's not good for you right there's certain preservatives and there's certain chemicals and different things that wind up picturing with science here not only shrinks testicles it has been scientifically proven to reduce penis size as well holy [ __ ] i don't know if this is accurate click on that it's going to be that guy with the big dick it's a scientifically proven on urban dictionary no if you click on that it's the the black guy with the giant hog leaning over the bed yeah yeah how many times have you gotten that yeah that's like the new rick roll yeah right it is yeah there's so many times like ari has sent me a link or tom or birch so believable every time and then it's the guy with the dick and you go you got me it's like we send each other links we have a little chat little chat and the sober october crew chat and 50 of those links lead to that guy with a big deck leaning over the bed i i heard he passed away the actual guy yeah but he's still bringing joy to the world but it's like you know where he's talking about like being a shooting star that's that's you know that's like that bad company song don't you know that you are a shooting star don't you know do you remember that song who said you know that's what things that see you're like from this dance music generation yeah my generation of old people before the internet they had songs that had stories in them
the song was a story the song was a story about johnny johnny was a school boy when he heard his first beatles song listen to this son you gotta appreciate this kind of music [Music] it's me 1982. yeah paint the scene newton upper falls massachusetts don't quite have my driver's license but man i can't wait till i do when i do i'm going to drive around i'm going to look cool and i'm going to listen [Music] [Music] yeah no internet baby hey mama i'm going away i'm gonna hit the big time gonna be a big stop someday mama came to the door with a tear dropped in her eyes johnny said don't cry mama smile away i i will say i do appreciate this music live because i'll see the dance stuff like a dj it's like a guy in a cubicle yeah and everyone's going live but i can't appreciate it like a live singer and a band and this music is being created in the moment you gotta understand that this song represents a different time of limited information distribution in the world this is a different world we didn't know what a rock star was they didn't have reality shows we found out about who they were from their songs when we hear a song about a young guy which we all wish we could be the young guy who becomes a music superstar every [ __ ] kid in my neighborhood thought this song was about them everybody wanted to be johnny how many [ __ ] people started bands because of the song [Music] there is a romance to that period of time where the entire world and consciousness was focused on one thing where everything now is kind of segmented and furniture where they're like i'm thinking about snl like i have a buddies on a cell now and like
hold on don't stop it yeah keep it going because this is this is where it gets important this is where it gets important because this is the the tragedy and the romance this song is that he doesn't live long for him it doesn't last buddy [Music] you know why because the good die young and james dean and jimi hendrix and janice joplin and kurt cobain and jim morrison all of them died young they never saw 28 son [Music] so that's cool is it because you're on spotify you can play songs yeah man whoa or not i know maybe they get mad at me listen i'm just trying to blow up bad company but this is where the song gets really good [Applause] here here's the somber ready [Music] bottle of whiskey sleeping tablets by [Music] [Music] see it's like you live on forever everybody misses you instead of you being a [ __ ] loser [Applause] where people get annoyed when you come around instead you get to be remembered you die young and you get to be remembered forever yeah it's a [ __ ] joseph campbell bush sure i'd rather live longer though yeah man but like if you're hanging around the auto shop and you're 17 years old this was the [ __ ] [Applause] [Music] that's what i grew up with yeah that's my kind of [ __ ] i'm trapped like musically i'm trapped there is something beautiful about it though i remember one time i saw boys to men in vegas and you there's always older women there and it's a it's a time machine music is a time machine because they are no longer 35 year old women or 40 year old women they are 13 again and it was beautiful do you know how many horny women you would find that are
over 50 at a rick springfield concert probably so many yeah because all the you know trappings of being older all that like evaporates and you just think you are that age again and it well also it's like what you really appreciated when you were growing up like music unlike any other art form has like an instantaneous connection with the time in which you first heard it yeah like i remember like it's not even like a song that i really liked that much but of the bob seger song like a rock i was in my car and i was 18 years old when the song was out and i was like oh my god it's about me and i'm driving down i can remember the street it's not even like my favorite song but like their songs i remember when i heard it yes there's something about it sometimes i'll hear a song and i'll know exactly where i was yeah uh like what what every year yeah it just cuts through everything have you seen those videos of like uh people with dementia or whatever and they play a certain song and it's like they're back alzheimer's yes alzheimer's yeah yeah yeah yeah it's amazing that yeah it is crazy it's like whatever it is it's just dementia too it's just a certain part of the brain where yeah yeah it just like excites them again but how weird is it that you can remember things so well with music attached to it supercalifragilisticexpialidocious of part of your because same with smells you know smells cut through all the yeah prefrontal stuff right but i mean but the information that you're you're containing inside a song like the fact that you can do that you know like you remember [ __ ] from when you were little kids where they would teach you about grammar you know conjunction junction what's your function hooking up words and phrases and clauses like it's amazing that you would never be able to repeat like um someone's lines if they were reading that in a television show you would never be able to repeat it like that but
because it's attached to music it's like it's stuck in your head all you have to do is kind of get the rhythm of it and then you can remember where the words go it's wild yeah what a weird thing that like that aspect of uh the way our brains work like that we connect information to sounds like in songs and then we do that really well and it's a great way to teach kids [ __ ] strange do you know the quadratic formula no what's that from algebra is it like well we all needed to know it for the rest of our lives that's why we had no pythagorean was like a square b squared equals c squared that's an easy one pythagorean is a little more advanced our math teacher taught us it in a song so we would never forget it and i still know it because of that stupid song how's the song sing for us jamie the opposite of b plus or minus the square root of b squared minus 4ac all over 2a i didn't add those amounts nice that's a good song that song should be something you need someone should put that to a dance beat it was like row row your boat honestly but i have no idea why i still know it 25 years later yeah later there's a bunch of those things from like um those abc after school tv shows yeah just learning through song yeah you you just remember like certain stuff well it's always tough whenever you do like a stand-up show and there's music too because music wins every time no matter how good the comedy is it's tough yeah yeah oh yeah music and comedy don't go together good yeah music is a heart game and comedy is a brain game you know like music you don't even need to think it just hits your [ __ ] soul the last thing you want to follow is someone who's a murderer with music like like music comedy with awesome jokes and a guitar like bro yeah it's tough those are tough to follow crowd work too like whenever i follow ingram at the store it's like what's my game plan here it's cool that he's touring with chris rock now yeah because you know we all love rick ingram and we've known him for
years and he kills it at the store and you'd be like oh why is this guy bigger and stuff and it's cool that that is a special place where like rock sees him one one night and he goes come on tour with me yeah so he's doing all these like awesome shows chris rock now getting to do his thing but crowd work like great crowd work is magical to an audience yeah because it's it's it's uh here it's now it's present whereas bits i like jokes like the best is when you can do both because like jokes you can bank bank are com like jokes are a commodity like okay i can i have an act i can tour with this these are bulletproof no matter where i go but there is this kind of ethereal quality to crowd work like oh [ __ ] you just thought of that right now and yeah it sets the room on fire so when you come on after that you kind of have to reprogram them into like a little bit of crowd work and then some jokes as well but it's hard for that like the first five minutes is kind of getting them to your speed yeah but that's always the case if someone has like a slow paced act and going after someone who's loud yeah there's always i mean that's one of the interesting things about places like the store is that you're forced to do that because there's 10 people on the on the lineup and everyone's doing 15 minutes and everyone's style is so different yeah but if for an audience member it's a real treat because you get to see all kinds of different styles all sorts of different approaches like if you're a real comedy fan like how many people have like decided to come see comedy and then decided to try to do it because they've gone to like one of those sets and seen so many different kinds of comedy that you go god i must i love comedy like maybe i fit in there somewhere kind of yeah and just to sort of see how many different ways people can be funny because i don't know if you don't where did you first go up on stage what place the comedy underground in seattle oh i heard about that did you ever play there i think i did once i think i did once okay yeah i think i did once
but yeah i'm pretty sure i did once but it's not there anymore right no not anymore they moved locations they were in pioneer square and then they moved like two or three blocks away the best [ __ ] place in seattle was that place that was connected to a pool hall oh parlor oh well you're biased you're like a big pool guy i know but to me it was like a dream come true yeah like they had pool tables right next to the comedy club like oh my god that's like ron white if they had a comedy club at a golf course that's hilarious same thing yeah it's not there anymore wow too [ __ ] bad that place was this [ __ ] yeah i cut my teeth there so comedy underground and then giggles by university of washington did giggles that guy got mad at me once because i think harry i said that i heard that you can't swear at his club because people were telling me that not you though i think he would do that for like the guys coming up yeah you weren't allowed to swear which i don't mind you know actually my first two or three years of stand up i put it on myself to not swear or drink later on too even because i didn't want to become a crutch i didn't want to have to drink before i go on stage like i'll do it i'll do it now sometimes if it's like a second show like i'll have a drink before i go onstage but i don't use it i want to be able to be enough as me so yeah and it was nice having that foundation of i i don't need to swear to form a joke and then i swear now and stuff i allow myself to use all the words and paint with all the colors but i think it was good just to not rely on like [ __ ] like out the gate when you don't know the foundations of comedy right and there's nothing worse than bad jokes with a lot of swears yeah like bad jokes by themselves with no swears are not as offensive yeah swears are great as seasoning yeah exactly exactly it's like someone who serves you a salt sandwich totally you [ __ ] up stupid there's too much salt in this thing but later on sprinkle little [ __ ] sprinkles
everybody's happy you know it's um it's just i love the fact that everybody does it different too everybody has a different approach different take on things different you know different style i love sitting in the back chair at the store like in the car like i'll watch theo go on yeah i love it he was there the other night and then ian will go on after yeah and talk about polar opposite guys but just as funny in different ways and it's it's inspiring sometimes you have to remind yourself like uh i don't have to kill in the way that this person kills like know your instrument like just be the best you yeah be your version of a funny yeah yeah yeah some people some people want to enforce their version of funny on you which is really weird what do you mean like they dig upset at some styles of comedy like that to me is one of the most misguided approaches to like look into where other people do comedy don't you know anybody that has that weird thing like oh he's doing that again yeah yeah we're doing this kind of stuff but if the crowd laughs that like that's the bottom line you know as long as the person is being true to themselves and it's like we're all we're trying to do is be funny that's it the only thing that bothers me is when someone's derivative like openly derivative i don't mind influenced everyone's influenced especially at the beginning of course yeah i remember literally being on stage recognizing that i was doing richard jenny's patterns like his his pattern of speech and being embarrassed oh my god i suck like how many years before you recognize that oh that was like a year in uh-huh it was like really early on because he was like one of the first guys that i ever saw that i was like super impressed with live certain comics have they spawned a bunch of like other genres you'd call them babies uh he's like you know you talk about all the different people who have
babies out there david tell has a lot of babies yeah dane would have a lot of babies had a lot of babies yeah mitch mitch hedberg oh yeah a lot of babies yeah yeah brody had a lot of babies oh really yeah yeah but it was like actually he had like step kids like brody had people that they didn't really do his act on stage but they did his act offstage a lot you know for fun like it flavored the way people would even playfully talk to each other they would talk to each other like brody like negative energy yeah yeah arms crossed enjoy it yeah we would do that so he he definitely i tell i think of the current guys he probably influenced the most guys out of new york because if you watch it tell right now in particular here's that's a guy that's probably the most underappreciated and uh underrated even though i know the fans rate him very highly i'm talking about like the general public every comedy fan that knows david tell rates him very very highly he might not be the best comic alive but criminally underappreciated as far as the general public goes and if you see him he's so good and his jokes are so sharp and they and you get into that dave attel rhythm yeah and that's all you want to hear and then guys start doing jokes like him he started doing that he's got this way or talking and it's so addictive it's so i've seen so many guys like and i don't they're not bad guys but you see like a little bit of a telling them because they're like insecure and they don't know how to be funny and they're trying to be funny and so they try to do it like a towel you know they have that like very pronounced sort of accentuation of words and i remember insomniac was like big when i was growing up like that was kind of this big hollywood thing but then i didn't see much after that i know wasn't he like an hbo young comedian special is that partly like him like he just loves stand-up he'll go on last at the seller he kind of just enjoys he does a lot of like late night sets and he can revive an audience and he's not like a big
energy guy either it's like he's just doing it all he's the master of what he does brilliant jokes but yeah um i think the the first big success was definitely insomniac and then through insomniac he developed a drinking problem and then through the drinking problem he quit and then became the best comic alive like it's it really happened all through that like his um his quitting drinking everybody agrees like unanimously that his act sharpened up radically it got really really really good and i think it's just his mind is free it's amazing yeah like the amount of new jokes he's just a machine and he's super dedicated yeah that's the thing it's like he has a thing that he's really good at that he really loves that he's very dedicated to so he's like always after it and so because he's always after it he's always doing all these sets and he's always sharp and i mean that's really what it's at for all of us you know and there's some there's kind of almost a monastic approach that he takes he wears the same clothes essentially every night i don't mean like the same clothes but he doesn't vary in his style just like the same hat the same you know look dave just sold out the stand up live in phoenix and killed it down there i mean it's not like he's not loved yeah like the people that know and there's plenty of them love him but as far as like great comics that don't get put into the category of great comics like he's number one on my list yeah i love him too he's great yeah he might be the one of the best of all time and right now he's in his prime and i think a lot of it is like he stopped drinking unlike us and uh turned his life around what what is the last special do you know was it bumping mike's on netflix well that's interesting too right him doing that thing with jeff that's a really fun thing because they're both so good off their feet yeah you know um skanks for the memories was his first big cd that was a really good one that he did at denver the comedy works it's really fun that's a great club it's a great i love there and uh comedy on state to madison oh yeah those are great clubs i never worked that place
by the time i got to madison i was already doing theaters but uh when i was someone was someone was there with me and they came back to do it they said it was oh it was ian he said it was awesome yeah yeah ian's gonna come into a soccer game with me i become a soccer fan yeah i saw you posted a a game here right yeah we went to the uh austin football club it's called the austin fc you dug it dude it's good yeah it's really good man when you watch those guys um in real time first of all massive appreciation are you gonna no let me hear that noise let me hear it [Laughter] this is like asmr like that nobody wants to be here do you listen to asmr i do all the time i don't i went on a date with a girl one time and she that's what she does for a living just like asmr videos and i was like that's hot okay that's hot i mean she just wants to make noise oh my god what do you mean you guess i mean it just it's weird to me that like that people are into that um i'm into it with cooking cooking videos yeah i listen to cooking asmr videos so how does that work because you hear like the slicing the eyeliner yeah they lick there's like a microphone inside this ear you're eating let me hear this let me hear this oh yeah isn't it weird how the internet has like opened up entire economies for weird [ __ ] like they probably make a hundred grand a month well i hope they make more than that okay all right we gotta yeah we gotta just for hours on stream i'm sure yeah look if you can imagine it someone's doing it right yeah someone's out there sucking toes on only fans and all they do is suck those guaranteed why wouldn't you it's a lot of money i bet what do you want to do well who would like send underwear like guys would pay top dollar just for like worn underwear imagine if you're in the middle of [ __ ] usa and you've got two options work at target or suck toes on only fans
imagine you working at target why choose you're making work at a target you make it 7.95 an hour it [ __ ] sucks you you're everyone's dumb you're working with [ __ ] you know people on fentanyl all day it's just a disaster right and then one of your friends goes hey i just made three thousand dollars you know taking pictures of my butt and you're like what wait a minute three thousand dollars and you start thinking about your stepdad and how you gotta get the [ __ ] out of this town and you're like i need to get some goddamn money you know what are people into they're in a feet yeah here they are there's a lot of girls on the only fans apparently all they do is like show feet like yeah that's enough that's all you need to do like patreon is our only fans just for for comics you know like one unreleased episode a week that's our ziploc bag is it as shameful though i don't know i feel like we're in a post-shame society patreon is an interesting thing too right because at first i was a little skeptical of it but now it's become so widespread and so many people like support artists and comics and all kinds of [ __ ] through patreon now it's pretty cool dude um like even the special that i did there's a donate button now on because i saw joe list he released his on uh on on youtube as well i love joel it's very funny uh he had a donate button on there i'm like oh let me do that online it's called super thanks because i sell finance self-produce this there's no company behind it i go if you guys liked it or whatever share like subscribe or you know if you're awesome hit the donate button but you don't have to and i would get like ten dollars fifty dollars it's like i wouldn't expect this type of goodwill from people but fans really want to support you and i've been just kind of taken aback by the amount of donations from people just from that button yeah if you can get to a just purely donation-based income it's probably the best way to do it like i know sam harris essentially operates that way he does his podcast purely not only does he do it he does this is what he does he does it through
this system where you have to subscribe he'll give you like the first 30 minutes of the podcast and you have to subscribe to get the rest of the podcast so it costs money to subscribe but i think you get to donate like whatever you want to i think it's like one of those deals and then on top check to see if that's true i don't know if you get to donate whatever you want to get to sam harris's podcast but one thing you definitely do is if you can't afford it he doesn't want it to be an impediment to you getting the show so if you can't afford it he doesn't want it to be a barrier so he gives it to you for free if you just email i can't afford it he goes and we grant 100 of the requests i go that is crazy and it works like it works like are you going to have some scammers yes of course you are but are you going to have a lot of people that appreciate the will behind that that it really is honest and it's a it's an even exchange yeah it's like i'm going to do my best to create the show donate and uh if you can't afford to donate i don't want it to be the reason why you can't watch the show or listen to the show so then you can have it for free just just email it it's beautiful and that's what i wanted to do with this to just have uh no friction between the content and the people i'm incorrect so he's got a monthly and an annual i think i'm conflating him with somebody else who did a thing someone someone else had one i forget who it is obviously i forget but someone had one where you could donate as much as you want so it could be a dollar or it could be you know 100 whatever the [ __ ] you want yeah he had it set up that way but it wasn't sam so sam has a specific model like a subscription model but because he's so good and because he has this reputation from all of his debates that are online and all of his talks online he puts on rock solid very fascinating very intellectually challenging content and so it's worth the money but if you can set up a model like that where like even if you can't afford it all you have to do is ask and people like well this guy's legit yeah he has to be legit this is not something that a
business person would create they wouldn't create that kind of a loophole where the redditors would you know capitalize on that or 4chan i should say yeah but there's also something cool about having that intimate relationship with the fans and you just kind of trust each other because i'll get 50 bucks i'll get 60 bucks and if i charge that much for my special yeah no one no one would give me 50 bucks for the special if i had that pay wall but because it's free they are just so there's so much goodwill they go i enjoyed it so much here's 50 bucks and there's something cool about that yeah and and you don't like it's kind of communism a little bit or socialist e yeah it's okay you don't need as much uh i think what's great about what's happening with technology and art is you don't need everybody in the world you can have a thriving business with just a core group of die hard fans yes that's that's that is important and i think if you're connected to a network unfortunately like if you're on a television show or if you're doing something else they don't want a small group of thriving fans they want the largest widest reach possible and the best way to do that is to water it down and make sure you don't put anything in danger you don't say anything crazy yeah faheem it's like art girl a team okay there's a hundred people behind you on this team if you get in trouble we get in trouble okay yeah so why don't you shut the [ __ ] up just be a team player yeah just be a team player well that's what i thought about when comedians get canceled supposedly and then people on twitter will be like canceled culture isn't real look at the comedians still performing and you're forgetting the fact that they the comedian is fortunate enough to have so so like they don't have any moving parts to but the commerce between them and the people because like kevin spacey needs a production team he needs uh people so many people to say yes to this thing where it's not going to happen right whereas with stand-up comedy if enough people come to a venue that's the business yeah it's a guy in a
mic will people show up to the venue you can't throw a wrench into that like people are voting with their money but yeah it's but it's also like what do you mean cancer culture isn't real you're if you're saying that people don't like to gang up on people no no no no no i'm not saying you are saying other people that are saying yeah cancer culture isn't real if they're saying that they're that's just just because someone can still work doesn't mean they didn't get a horrendous experience that they may or may not have deserved like it's and it's sort of sport there's a sport to it there's a lot of people that pile on there's a sport and you know tim dillon and i became friends because of a thing that he wrote about louis ck and i reached out to him uh he wrote about all these people that are like mediocre not very talented comics they were [ __ ] all over louis ck and i was like he's right because i see that i recognize that these there are certain people not all of them but there are certain people that were highly critical of louie in a way where it was almost like he was they were trying to make sure that this uber talented guy never entered back it wasn't even what he did it was more of the social status they're going to reclaim or they're going to claim uh higher ground by pushing him down it was a weird sort of like kick em when they're down thing that didn't it wasn't just about what happened it was also about them moving and it was transparent it was about them moving up you could see it yeah because they all sucked it wasn't like anybody was really brilliant that was killing it they came out against louis c.k like that it wasn't it was guys that were terrible at stand up and or okay at stand up but they suck at women and life and they're depressed and it's like they're not maybe their career was going good and it started to falter it's like those guys those are the attackers it wasn't people there was people that were critical of him but it's the attackers like the way they did it it's like it's almost like the you didn't want to
recognize that he's a human being it's almost like he becomes enemy sure he becomes like oh you can attack they say crazy [ __ ] that doesn't have to be accurate there is an opportunistic uh element whenever someone is down like that yeah like let me jump off their back to slam dunk here on twitter yeah you know that's very prevalent it's natural it's human nature and it's human nature is also because if if someone like um will smith does something really stupid like smack chris rock it's not just he did something stupid but it's also he has lived a life of extreme like i don't want to say fortune because he's super talented but it's a very very unusual life and unattainable to most people oscar winner movie star recording artist i mean he's a super superstar so for him to do something where we can all go boo [ __ ] you it's not just boo [ __ ] you it's also boo [ __ ] you and now you're not going to be as big as you used to be now we're going to now i'm not going to support you now i'm not going to go to now i'm going to boycott you but like if a rapper like some unknown rapper went up and smacked chris rock in the face it'd be that guy would be huge if he was with his girlfriend it's let's say jada pinkett breaks up with will smith and jada pinkett is at the oscars and the will smith slap never took place and she's with some young rapper and this and she's in the the rapper responds to chris rock's joke by going on stage and smacking him that would be huge yeah he'd be balling out of control is that what he would he would make 15 songs about it he would have like stacks of cash on a private jet talking about slapping chris rock it was weird seeing the takes after that happened like some people were like yeah that's how you protect your woman i'm glad he did it it was so weird how that was like a rorschach test for america yeah or the world i'm like how could anyone think that that was justified
it wasn't even a mean joke that's the thing it was very i've said this before but i'll say it again just because in the interest of being clear here that movie was a strong movie that gi jane was a movie about a beautiful woman demi moore who became a [ __ ] navy seal she was a badass lady yeah there's nothing negative about it like so saying gi jane too it's empowering there's nothing negative about it it's like you're literally comparing yourself to a hero or someone is comparing you rather to a hero it's not an insult if he said powder now yeah then i get it yeah yeah if he said uh [ __ ] kojak yeah then by all means myself yeah i thought i was dating myself with powder no kojak was in the [ __ ] 70s used to watching my grandpa lollipop yeah he had a lollipop i know it's a detective [ __ ] those are the early days of law and order that's that's set up the trap of law and order where the there's always a smart detective it figures out your [ __ ] sneaky plan there are certain boilerplate shows that will never go away like the hospital drama yep the legal drama yeah the cop thing yep yep those will just they're timeless because there's inherent stakes somebody needs to do a new smokey in the bandit didn't they do a movie they need to do a new one oh [ __ ] like a series a no a new movie okay burt reynolds is dead we need a new smoky in the band who's going to be smokey i don't know we need someone who's good the bandit smokey was the uh jackie gleason character okay okay so who's going to be the band is that it yeah smokey's like that's the the fuzz right isn't that what they called it back in those cb days the [ __ ] oh the the smokes that's like a cop right the bandit was burt reynolds right so the other guy smokey must have been i mean that's must i don't remember isn't that doesn't that like term smokey doesn't that mean the cops yeah i think it meant the cops back then but uh burt reynolds and sally fields those are fun ass movies man it was an innocent time i'm excited for
top gun i feel like since coveted and everything there hasn't been a movie that has captured the nation yet or whatever i'm excited to go back to theaters and like check that out especially we're on the brink of war sure and it might be awesome the movie i doubt it i doubt it he's flying up there tom cruise i mean that's what the movie's about the movie's about guys who fly fighter jets that kill people really good the movie's about the guys who are the best at flying the jets that kill people they just do top gun with drones i mean they do that simply because they want to kill people that's that's why they're really good at it or to defend to stop anybody from killing us which is a that's a good thing it is a good thing but i'm just saying it's a wild subject for a movie like this this guy's the hero the guy that kills people the best and his and it's kind of an indiscriminate way of killing people you're launching a jet missiles into a [ __ ] bunker somewhere because it's so tiny like it's not real when it's like you're so far away you just see a puff you just see yeah you're like i'm not i don't see the carnage i'm okay yeah you're not stabbing someone you're not shooting someone in the face you're you're launching missiles from the sky it's easy to compartmentalize that do you imagine how [ __ ] alert you have to be to pilot one of those jets and how long do they fly for i don't think they fly for very long i think they run out of gas pretty [ __ ] quick yeah don't you have to be a certain height too like if you're too tall you can't be a fighter jet or well there's a thing about uh g-force um i flew with the blue angels once and um they don't wear g-suits and the guy who uh flew me uh you know it's like there's a pilot and you you sit behind and he goes through like some stuff with you the guy who flew me was [ __ ] jacked he was like maybe five nine five ten at the most they try to keep him fairly short because uh i mean you don't want a guy seven feet
tall to be a fighter jet also probably wouldn't fit in there that good but the thing is it's about the distance between your blood and your heart so when you hit g-force you have to do a thing called hooking and hooking is you like this and you're forcing blood into your head to try to stay conscious and the the gravity the [ __ ] the g-force of the acceleration the banking of a turn or something like that we got to i think we got to seven and a half g's i think that's the most i could take and this dude has done nine 10 g's it is insane amount of pressure you feel your consciousness closing like the blood is leaving your brain it's being pushed out by the force and the only way you can stay conscious is do this hooking thing so they have to be jacked yeah and they have to be fairly small except the g suits i think the g suits make it quite a bit easier and um they're like i don't i don't know i'm not exactly sure how they work but there's like they're almost like inflated like g suits are like some sort of it's some sort of thing that mitigates the effect of of gravity but that's why you can't be like tall right because i think it's harder to get the blood to the [ __ ] brain without passing out and [ __ ] yeah because you're going like you're literally forcing blood into your head and you feel like damn if you just let go and relax just you're gonna go black have you seen those videos the training videos where they're like pulling all those g's and you see where they pass out yeah oh it's nuts yeah yeah it's it's hard to not pass out and you know some people have like almost like a natural proclivity to fainting i wonder if that plays into a factor there some people like they see things and they just black out yeah you might be a great pilot but if you pass out too early right yeah or if what if you're a great surgeon the moment you cut somebody learn don't you know yeah i mean that's a thing with people or you get the yips i dated this girl and her dad was a dentist and he couldn't see like bad stuff even
though he was a dentist like blood his son came home once and his son had bad sunburn like real bad sunburn he had like third degree burns like bubbles and blisters on him the dad saw it blacked out i was like oh my god she's oh my god you can do it though we went to a movie once me and this gal and uh in the movie someone's shooting heroin and she sees the heroin needle go into the guy's arm and she blacked out and she warned me i thought she was joking like you really faint she was yeah i can't my it's in my family my dad does it too like that's crazy so i know but i can't do anything about i'm like wow that's weird that it's hereditary it's hereditary it's like the golden retriever thing like just can't see needles well i think it's like a shocking trauma thing like any shocking physical trauma just bump shut off which is like what a weird reaction not repulsion not you know your body's just like i'm out your body's like check please i don't want to see you better if we if we shut off people catch us and they'll bring us to a nice hospital enough to see this [ __ ] needle going this guy's arm in a movie theater i would just look away i would just look at the top corner of the screen it is weird though isn't it that like people some people have this built-in like snooze button that you could just hit weird yeah just that happens when like trauma happens like i was thinking if you an explosion or you get shot your body just makes you not feel it go into shock like to protect yourself oh that's true yeah that's definitely why you get knocked out you know your body's trying to protect you and also it's like your your mind and your central nervous system just can't handle the shock of what just happened to it so it just shuts down to try to almost try to like reboot i think i mean that's probably a shitty way of describing it but it's just the trauma of brain injury that causes you know a concussion and being knocked unconscious is just a ruthless situation for the whole
the whole body like if you see people get knocked out like um uh javonte davis just scored a stunning knockout this uh this past um saturday night of against rolando romero and he hit him with this [ __ ] left hook man it was so beautiful this counter left because the dude was like a super powerful knockout puncher and he wades in with a right hand to the body and he throws another right hand boom and he gets caught with his left hand boom when he gets dropped so he threw a right hand to the head and then a right-handed body pull it back again so i can see it so watch it one more time so he throws his right hand to the head and then he throws it to the body and he gets countered with a picture-perfect left hook and just starched so watch he tries to get up and his whole central nervous system is just fried like he can't get up his legs aren't working right like he's conscious like look look how everything doesn't work right like he's trying to back up and the referee's like stand here and he's like no no no you can't you're not even listening like he and he's not even protesting he knows he's out of it he has no idea what's going on so his whole system just shut the [ __ ] off have you seen that instagram account that boxing i sent it to you one time you're like oh yeah i know this guy or they do the animations on the boxing yes yes i love that again no that's great yeah damn i forgot the account boxing loop i think i don't know it's a it's like mortal kombat animation yeah i love it that's the beautiful thing about the internet one of them there's just so much content so much cool [ __ ] there's so many talented people out there in the world and it's really democratized talent well how about memes memes as well like how many [ __ ] hilarious memes are there yeah here it is boxing loop so he adds all this cool animation two-piece no soda [Laughter] that's interesting it just makes it fun there's a few of those there's a few of those that are out there that do stuff with mma fights too it's uh it's again just like comedians
you know it's it's an interesting time for anybody to create things as long as the gatekeepers understand the reason why it's so cool in the first place is because you let so many diverse ideas and opinions and styles of thought and styles of creating things get loose yeah you can't control that so much it's not good for anybody it's exciting to see that no one conglomerate controls the pipe anymore but they do kind of they do a little youtube kind of controls the video pipe it's a little more open than say one person's taste at netflix hbo max or comedy central you have a better chance of reaching more people via instagram tick tock um youtube right but they can remove you don't like what you say yeah they can remove you and they do and they do all the time yeah but it's like should that be a thing well that's it's i mean i i understand the impulse to try to make things nicer try to make people behave nicer but i don't think necessarily like banning people from having differing opinions in you is the way to do it and shadow banning people it's like you're taking away someone's livelihood on a misunderstanding occasionally exactly it's an imperfect science exactly um and it's also it's like it's a little too convenient to shut people up that way you know but then you know it's like what it's weird it's like you know they'll say like one thing that people are really freaking out about is trump trump coming back to twitter you know if trump comes back to twitter and people think that'd be terrible if trump comes back to twitter but the [ __ ] taliban's on twitter [Music] they're on tick tock they're like advances they are not allowed to do tick-tock and you shouldn't even say that especially being from afghanistan yeah yeah sorry you should know that buddy but i mean china's on twitter the ccp is on twitter i almost feel like that was just a ploy from china like all right yeah we're
just gonna have your youth do dancing and all these pranks and grocery stores and we're going to limit our people with what they can do with it we're going to be education-based we're going to shut it off at a certain time and then you guys are going to idiocracy it and then we're going to take over well that's the thing about like social engineering first of all let's not pretend that any civilization has ever done social engineering where it worked long term i mean just the horrors of this single child households that china imposed for years just the horrors of what happened to female babies it's terrible terrible [ __ ] that doesn't just make a disproportionate amount of males to females which is a huge problem in china right now but also all those people that had female babies that had to be killed like that's not a small amount of people and all those people whose family was ratted out and someone found out that the woman's pregnant and so they forced her to have abortions when she's nine months pregnant or forced her to give birth to a dead baby so they would literally inject the head of the baby with a poison to kill the baby while i was in the move in the womb so that it's born still stillborn i'm reading this about it in this douglas murray book called the war on the west and that's one of the things that he talks about like that is uh the single child household in china is it it was a terrible thing and that's a form of social engineering there's too many people so you can only have one kid and you know people with no kids like yeah well how do you enforce that is the problem with any idea with socialism right or marxism how do you enforce it with violence it's the only way if you want to get everybody to like give their money up and no one has any weapons and you know you you decide how much everybody gets paid and you know what whatever your task is it's the same as the [ __ ] guy who makes pizzas is the same as the guy who builds jets it's all the same yeah like how do you enforce that violence
it's the only way and so then the state becomes your daddy and then the state decides that you know like in the case of north korea that it's it's daddy is super powerful and plays golf better than anybody that's ever lived you ever read the account of kim jong-un playing golf no but i know like him and dennis i read something about it that it might be just a misinterpretation that got way blown out of proportion sounds like jamie works with a state no there's a way to there's a way to keep score where you're not writing down the actual number you got you're just writing down relative to par he had 11 holes in one bro that's not how that's just someone read the score wrong and it got reported that way is how i read this interpretation but that was the interpretation of the glowing um media coverage in the north korean news wasn't it i i'd read through this in like a golf magazine you know expose golf magazine's getting paid it just made more sense when it was written that way as well he got a score way more accurately that he should have like 120 or something like that oh i don't know what that means um since i don't play golf but uh his his holes in one would have been one over rather than an actual one that's how they were writing the score down that's all i'm trying to say so what was that the depiction that we read so then the someone saw that scorecard was like holy [ __ ] what they don't understand there's different golf but that wasn't written by the north korean news i'm just i'll i'll pull up the article i read i'm just sort of telling you it seems like it's not a report i wanted to do a sketch called like north korean sports center and it's just kim jong-un like beating he's like winning the finals in the world cup and like he's just this man he's elbow dunking on on like lebron like great leader wins again yeah i had yomi park on the podcast a woman who escaped north korea yeah you want to talk about a lady who just doesn't want to hear any [ __ ] when you escape north korea and you make it into china as a sex slave when you're 13 you have no tolerance for [ __ ] none
no tolerance for [ __ ] just what the [ __ ] man the fact that that is going on right now and that in 2022 while you and i are sitting here drinking whiskey and talking [ __ ] there's people that are slaves in korea and in north korea and they can't get out yeah they're trapped and they're barely alive they barely survive in terms of like their ability to just have enough food to live and they live in concentration camps and they they work for the state you live in slave camps and you might even not have ever done anything you might be born in that slave camp like she was explaining like how like if one generation like say if your grandfather does something that's bad against the state they will curse multiple generations so you will you'll be imprisoned and your children be in prison and their children be in prison before their children get released that's [ __ ] you're on the hook for a previous generation what the [ __ ] man yeah you'll live the rest of your life in jail because your grandfather was an [ __ ] you're not even born yet and you're already [ __ ] what did you pull up jimmy uh so this reporter went to the golf course where this happened and he explains in here how it went from an innocent score keeping mistake and got before i tell you what i know i should tell you how i came to know it the details were relayed to me five years ago during my own travels in north korea where i turned turned up to compete in a tournament billed as the national championship the north korean open is more curiosity than cutthroat contest which is only fitting given that it's held in pyongyang golf course the same layout where the deer leader allegedly shot his 34. the fields in the annual handicapped event are fairly small most of golfers struggle to break 90. so it goes on and explains how he talked to some people there he they taught they explained to him that there was a scorekeeping shorthand that is used there and then someone whoever found that in the north korean state news most likely didn't know that and then ran with the okay so it says unfamiliar with the score keeping shorthand the north korean state news
agency covering the outing had read the five ones on kim's card as holes in one forget the fact that kim a ranked beginner probably never sniffed bogey all day if you were keeping score for a brutal autocrat would you dare tell him he'd made nothing but snowmen i don't know what you [ __ ] dorks talking on your left his alleged aces okay maybe that's all so i would like to uh pretend that i didn't read that all right just go with the original propaganda piece because i think it was awesome that they said he scored 15 holes in one or whatever he's not a golf guy no i would be a golf guy though i would definitely look at tony hinchcliffe and jamie and ron white play it'd be fun to play with him i think what i'm gonna do one day is uh when jamie and tony finally play i'm going to film it on the iphone and just get super baked and just talk [ __ ] to them what if you're making the golf course you're like happy gilmore no i'm not going to play no you got to play no if i played with them i would hold them back i don't know what the [ __ ] i'm doing that's i mean i don't play but i want to like santino he's a member at this like great country club they say santino is very good really they say he plays don't you say that we're going to do nine holes he's like we're gonna take you you can have my my loner clubs and he's gonna try to get you to gamble with him no he's gonna try to rob you all right i'll do it i'm gonna hustle you it's a big thing with golf right it's like pool like jordan you suck well jordan gambles oh yeah big difference between like hustling and gambling hustling if someone pretends they're not good and they get you to gamble and then they rob you you know that's like psychology it's gamesmanship i used to be friends with a pool hustler like a legitimate homeless pool hustler who sometimes slept on my couch and he sometimes he hadn't slept for days he'd snore like a goddamn train was rolling through my house like i couldn't sleep i'd be in my bedroom in the other room and he'd be on my couch and i'd have my [ __ ] pillow stuffed over my ear i couldn't sleep that was his whole his
whole living just pool sharking just being a pool hustler so what would he do just like pretend like he's not that good or that's what most of it was and then occasionally it was him getting big games so like you would play for money but those are you know when you're playing big games you're playing a good player and so like if you know you're betting 100 bucks against jamie and you're both like a players like who knows man you might be real loose that night and you might run out or he might be loose and he might you know the balls might roll bad for you and you could lose 13 12 in a race to 13 for like 100 bucks now you're [ __ ] so when you're really good it's hard to make any money because you're playing against other people that are really good you know and then also like two people want to give money away right they want a chance and so like if you're they're like say uh coping is like one of the top guys in the world and you want to play shane van boning who's another top guy in the world who the [ __ ] knows who's going to win that they have to figure it out so guys bicker the guy's like i want two the one on the money i want you know i want 10 9 on the score like he has to go to 10 but we only have to go to nine like they try to come up with advantageous games to try and sometimes people are more hungry to gamble than they are smart and so they agree these stupid games like [ __ ] it [ __ ] it you want to rob let's [ __ ] play and they'll play and they'll have a terrible game that they probably can't win just because they got cajoled into it by some guy who talks a lot of [ __ ] so there's that play yeah it's not just ego it's also you're you're dealing with the fact that the person is junkie they're gambling junkies they're they're action junkies they want the action you know and the action of playing pool for money is very exciting did you get into that yeah i did oh yeah i did i was never good i'm never good like i could play real guys but i was good enough so i could occasionally do really well in like a local tournament but i couldn't beat anybody and not a real player i was always like a b player there's like a very big distinction between a b player
and an a player what is the difference in that in that level jump time time practicing um uh practice with the intention like you like if you watch a guy like jason chaw i was one of the best guys in the world there's videos of him jason with a j-a-y s-o-n shaw he practices and puts videos of his practice sessions on youtube and on instagram and he just lines balls up and he shoots the ball and gets position on the next ball and shoots the ball and gets position on the next ball he just has like a line of balls and he has to place it perfectly to get position on the next ball and maneuver his cue ball around the table it's like this drill that he does so instead of just playing he does specific shots over and over and over and all the best guys do that because that's what separates the guys who are truly elite from guys that are just really good players the really good players they don't practice like this because this [ __ ] is [ __ ] boring so this guy is making the eight ball on the side that's on purpose like watch this shot this is a this is a bank shot where he's going to bank it off the long rail here bang and it'll go right into the side off the cue ball wild just over and over again and he can do that [ __ ] over and over again but he's one of the best players on earth you know there's like a handful of guys that consistently went like watch one of these this is these practice things that he sets by the way this guy just broke the world record for the most amount of balls run in straight pool and it's uh it's either in the 600s depending on one person's because apparently touched one of the balls at one point in time or it's in the 700s because the rules don't state that you can't touch a ball like it's only fouls on a cue ball meaning you can't accidentally touch the cue ball or the cue ball scratch but what you can do is accidentally brush up against the ball like say me with a fingertip or with your clothing or something like that is that glove new when did that come in that's been around for a while they developed these gloves because like the thing about a cue in your hand is like
friction you don't want to have friction you want it to glide through your fingers and the best way for it to glide through your fingers is these uh pool gloves that they develop and a lot of guys play with them now because it's just more consistent the whole thing is like consistency you want like a consistent feel to the cue you want a consistent feel to the tip you want a consistent feel the way it slides through your fingers and then see how how genius this is like how he just gets perfect on every ball like if you don't play you don't know how difficult this is but what this guy is doing is just cue ball wizardry he just knows exactly exactly where the neck he almost [ __ ] up there so yeah he knows exactly where the next ball is going to be and he's going to maneuver his cue ball in place so he can make that shot and he does this all day long so this is not the most fun the most fun thing to do is to play now he's going to go in between the rail look at that ooh perfect so the most fun thing to do is play but if you do this for hours and hours a day you'll play better so then when you actually do play you win more it's just like stand up and writing yeah same thing some people just play some people practice some people just go on stage some people write what's your process like when you do these arena tours and everything and your your hour's pretty tight like are you ready to yeah i'm probably ready to do something i have to put something on special soon but i just you know i practice a lot we're doing a lot of sets in town doing a lot of sets of the vulcan doing a lot of writing but right now like one of the problems with having an hour that's pretty much ready to go is when i release it then i'm gonna have to write a whole new hour that's where i am right now yeah i'm starting over it's tricky yeah it's fun though it's exciting it's a dangerous yeah dangerous it's like you're starting over again i like having the mental real estate there's no safety net anymore it's uh all right do the thing again
mm-hmm yeah do it again you did it before you'll do it again and then two years from now you'll be thinking about filming this and you'll do it again yeah that's what we do you know it's fun and also one there's a humility to it because it makes you a beginner every couple years every couple years you run out of weapons you have no more weapons like you used to be able to go on stage yeah yeah and you had comedy weapons you know you know you had like you had comedy missiles you could launch out that crowd but also you kind of care uh whatever you're talking about now you always care the most about because i'm proud of the special and all the bits and stuff that i did but like if i were to do them now i'm not as invested it almost it's a snapshot of you yeah it's almost like looking at a senior photo of yourself or something you know like well represents an error an error of your work yes you know yes it's a little more complex than a senior photo because it's all those thoughts and ideas and the way you deliver them but it does represent an era of your work you know yeah yeah it's it's just like picking the fruit when it's ripe because sometimes you can um it's on the tree for too long that [ __ ] ferment yeah ferments and there is an art and a magic to like i'm still invested in this let's get some cameras on it while it's still magical yeah because if you wait too long then you're not as invested anymore [ __ ] you james over there watching porn what are you doing not up i didn't know this oh he's a comedy fan he saw my set it was so wild because like i'm a huge fan and he was like cool he's like i want to talk to the cool guy and he was hanging out the whole night yeah like even after the set he was kicking it you know where everyone smokes weed in the back yeah and like i had a writing job so i had to leave i'm like well this has been great thank you so much man like [ __ ] that job dude you should stay up i know what are you doing well i'm i don't have it anymore i don't have it anymore but yeah but you could have been staying up look
at that you're going through the back and everything that's nice but it's beautiful because i still was working at the time but at night i just knew i had to do this this was my north star i did that thing by day but there's so many things when you're a comedian like what do i do what's the move and all that and you can get really clouded with what i should do but i'm like make this special just forget about everything else make this and then worry about everything else so i just did the writing job by day i made this thing at night just funneled all my energy into it i'm like make a great piece of art that is you and then figure out that [ __ ] later but for some reason i don't know if the stars aligning with some spirit it's like it just said make this thing and i made it and and yeah that's awesome yeah i love stories like that thanks man i love it i love the fact that you did it and you're the first guy to figure out to do it you're the first comic to figure out to do that isn't it so obvious though yeah but you think about the amount of specials that have been filmed at the comedy store it's really not that many it's louie and ari and who else is there and who else bro chappelle um which one was that uh like the closer no the no sticks and stones no clementine equinox right right right yeah the one with the weird name yes yeah yeah um it's um there's not that many over the years i think it was difficult to film there for a while i think people didn't want you to film there for a while for whatever reason you know yeah i will take my hat off to peter shore because i had the idea and i called it because i couldn't do it without their sign off you know because it's they're very protective of the name and the building and i i call them and i go i've always had this idea to do this type of special at the store i was kind of preparing for them to say no because they are pretty hard-lined about it's a magical place you know they don't want anyone filming in the or
because it's where we work on our stuff they're very protective because sometimes a laugh factory would just release clips of like chappelle and and they didn't want it you know like they're a little little factory filmed people and didn't tell them the laugh factory was kind of loosey-goosey with their clips that would go up and the store has just always been known and had this reputation with comics that like you're protected like if you're working on a new bit now that bit's out there and it's got 10 million views that and then it's not done yet right and it's already out in the world exactly so comics didn't like that and the store had always been known for having it's almost like a yonder bag as a place well you can't do that it's like right it's yeah so but but for some people it's good what do you mean so for some people when they put their clips up it's on the lab factory channel and then it helps them it really depends if everyone's on the same page then it's great that's the only way but when it's up and you're like what is what the [ __ ] take it down exactly that's a problem when you think about your career and think about like times where you wanted to record and how much how like much travel you have to do to get to the spot where you're happy with your material if at any point in time it gets cut off and gets released that was one of the things that annoyed me greatly about people's response to louis ck's leaked set yeah remember when louise had that leak said he hadn't stand up in 10 months it's funny it's pretty good and not not well i mean it would have gotten great you're going to you're talking about a guy who didn't do stand-up at all for 10 months and then this is what he does when he comes back i mean he didn't do it at all and then this is what he does when he comes back and he's killing yeah and it's like and people say oh he lost his heart he lost his way no he's doing the exact same [ __ ] he always did yeah the exact same [ __ ] and when people were criticizing that i'm like hey man you're literally
criticizing a baby step you're criticizing the first steps of a whole set get the [ __ ] out of here you know how to make comedy or not do you know how to make comedy or not well if you do then you're a [ __ ] liar and you're pretending that this isn't how it works and that you don't go on stage with some ideas and just [ __ ] swing you fail so many more times until it gets more refined there i will have bigger ideas and maybe it's touchy and i do it and it and it doesn't go well so one thing if you criticize someone for a finished product that you don't like yeah but it's another thing when someone's doing a workout set and they're they're filmed without their knowledge or recorded with other knowledge come the [ __ ] on you know what comedy is right you know how hard it is to make yeah so for you to pretend that this is some indictment on this person's soul like the [ __ ] out of here you're ripping apart a first draft it's it's barely a first fairly it's an idea from that day uh and also people like the louis said people were viewing the comedy through a new prism yeah whereas if none of that had happened and they heard that set they'd be like brilliant he's done it again yeah he's done it again yeah exactly and unfortunately we never got to see a lot of those bits evolve you know because how long was that set do you remember how long that set was it was like half hour maybe something like that yeah i mean think about i mean he might have got 15 killer [ __ ] minutes of that you don't know like all those great ideas that he had sat on for 10 months while you know he was canceled whatever yeah it's um you know it's one of those things man yeah i get why people will be upset at certain things that's not not what my problem is what my problem is is the way people handle stuff and this tendency towards like looking at someone through a distorted lens because it benefits you to do that you know like choosing to frame things in a way that benefits you art is interesting in that
way where people can they'll look at louie now and just be like he's not funny because there's all these other yeah there's other things associated with it well if you are really upset by those things associated with it and you maybe have had a bad experience your your own with a man and you just decide that i don't he's not funny to me that's your prerogative right you are allowed to do that that's that's 100 you know you you're you're allowed to listen to or watch whatever the [ __ ] you want for whatever [ __ ] reason you want but it's when you make an assessment of like something that is clearly what a guy is just practicing for the first time in 10 months he's just going on stage and [ __ ] around and you're trying to pretend that this is his material that's ready for judgment it's not ready for judgment he's [ __ ] around yeah he's trying to create well it's just click bait though that that's the story to propagate it well it's also like you're signaling to the crowd that you're on the right side and that you're not like him and what he did was bad and i get that too i get the need to express your disgust i get that but if you're an actual comic and we're talking about stand-up comedy like to attack that set was like okay come on let me see you not do comedy for 10 months and see what you have to say yeah probably terrible too and if you're a guy who's always pushed the buttons and been rewarded for it because that's what louie's been yeah always push buttons always been rewarded you go back over his stuff like post cancellation and go back and watch some of his bits you're like oh my god imagine if he released this now but this was the stuff he was applauded for yeah yeah comedy's like that though just the we progress as a society yeah and like the bits i did three or four years ago i i wouldn't do today maybe because i've grown as a person and society has evolved and i'm a different person but people will hold the standards of today to yesteryear and that's like not entirely fair well it's definitely not fair if you want to go way back right i mean you go back to like the 1960s and
1970s it'll keep getting trudged up like that steve martin king tut was making the rounds on the internet no it wasn't it was gen z was like this is like what is he doing this is you know appropriation and they're bastardizing so he was getting taken a task for the king tut on snl they all need to live in the woods for a year all of them they need to hunt their own food for a year and toughen the [ __ ] up did you notice though like when coveted hit when everyone was scared and no one knew what was going on all of this stuff it wasn't happening about two weeks because there was a bigger sensation no but then it accentuated because then people were trapped indoors and all they would do was complain about stuff online and people that are already addicted twitter now didn't have a job yeah so now they're on twitter all day and they don't have a job when we all thought we were gonna die no one was getting cancelled because we were worried about are we going to make it through this thing yeah for sure i mean that was 9 11 too after 9 11 everybody was like super cool to each other it's like there's ways of reacting to things that are justifiable and understandable and then there's also you're dealing with a certain amount of mental illness in this country and there's a lot of people that are just filled with anxiety and fear and anger and chaos and they're online taking it from other people and giving it to other people and just feeding the [ __ ] monster all day yeah all day and it's it's terrible for the mental health of a giant percentage of the population including mine that's why i don't [ __ ] with it yeah it's like i've learned that too i kind of i'm at a point now where i create i put it out there i use it as a tool but i don't do a deep dive into the comments or whatever it's like crazy i just well it's a statistics game no one is going you're not everyone isn't going to like you that's just the uh a nature of putting yourself out there and being an artist you're not going to have unanimous fans across the board
and part of being an artist is you're you are going to have that 50 50 if you're if you're doing your thing you know oh for sure you're you're always going to have that but if you concentrate on the negative you really will think you're a piece of [ __ ] even if like a giant percentage of people love you it's just not worth it and i already have that in me i don't need somebody else i'm my own like i'm my own troll i don't need you that's also why you're really good it's because you judge all your stuff very harshly and you really tighten it up and you know polish it up that's a big part of it man a big part of it is how you approach the thing you know you gotta approach the thing with some honesty you can't approach the thing and pretend it's better than it is yeah just because it makes you feel good that you've done something the worst thing is when you're talking to someone and they want you to believe that something they've done is really good and then when you have to watch it you gotta go it's a bummer yeah you know you have to be that guy to yourself first before anybody gets a look at it yeah i think that the audience has to decide i like i feel like i'm in a quantum state just for as long as i've been doing stand-up it's like i think i'm great and i think i'm the worst i have both of those things perfect yes and it flip-flops but i it's been beneficial for for me i i kind of like having that you're in a comedy super position yeah yeah you're in motion and still at the same time that's what it is because you don't believe one or the other entirely well um tell everybody the name one more time it's hat trick yeah it's on youtube right now it's on my youtube channel uh is the youtube channel justfahimanwar yeah yeah and uh that's who you are on all the social media twitter instagram what are you most active on probably instagram instagram and i'm trying to get the youtube going this special is kind of planting my flag and like this is this is a nice 47-minute representation of who i am what i do because people would hear that i'm funny on podcasts and stuff but i never really had a tentpole thing to kind of point people to and this is kind of nice to be like
this is this is what i do this is who i am that's dope man that's dope i'm really happy for you and you're really funny guys i know i always thank you for a lot for me i mean i really appreciate it my pleasure brother my pleasure it's cool to see you blow up thanks man all right um that's it bye everybody thank you [Music]