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[Music] hello hey buddy what's going on doing you're slowly opening that bottle this is the same podcast we used to do in your basement right basically yeah it's just a little same one just scaled out it's not much different i was wondering what happened to it and then i got an email they said your friend joe's doing a podcast in austin um congrats buddy thanks man you don't seem to care that much which i like what does that mean you just didn't like me i'm the same person you've never been especially like susceptible to i i feel like fame was eased on you like incrementally and yeah like a lot at once but you were so used to that you're just like yeah i can handle it it's uh it's weird it's not it's not normal it's definitely not uh you don't want to take it all in one shot like if you like a demi lovato type character or some young celebrity i i [ __ ] pity those people under 30 you have no chance i don't know how they do i mean i got on television when i was 26 or 27 the first show that i ever did and i wasn't famous you know i was like oh there's a guy that i think i might have saw you on tv right and then it's like slowly over time built to fear factor and then the ufc and then ultimately the podcast and then you know and then the latest version of the podcast which is just impossible to handle if you're a normal person that just went right into that you would lose your [ __ ] mind you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to adjust you've developed antibodies yeah yeah you know what's happening you're like oh you know yeah when someone's hovering you know when like this guy will you you know what they want that's the picture that's the bummer the not the pictures are fine the the bummer is when people want things from you like they want to talk to you about some [ __ ] thing that they're doing shock and man you know like the idea that i would have enough time to do that with you so again like people just come to you with
their projects or they want you to invest in their company and like i don't have time for that and like well you don't need to pay attention like that's how you go broke that's how you go bro oh yeah yeah not like i have people yeah that i and then suddenly i look at my bottom line at some point like wait where did all that money go to the car wash or something to the dumber to the topless car wash yeah some solar company that you're starting up uh and you're [Music] uh can you tell me about austin quickly i love it it's great people are super friendly really kind um there's way less of them traffic is a joke it's ridiculous they think traffic's bad it's funny it's funny their traffic bad is like it took me five extra minutes yeah um it's uh there's a thing that happens when you get too many people it's like uh you don't care about them anymore they become a burden and that's what happens when you get the 405 at like four in the afternoon you're like [ __ ] this yeah where it's just like you can't believe you have to get to redondo you resent everyone everyone literally everyone ambulance driver [ __ ] everyone i went to visit a friend of mine and he was down uh like i think it was like newport beach and it took me three hours to get there i was like this is [ __ ] insane this should be you know 45 minute drive i'm doing a joke about how how he started driving places during covet yeah just to see how long it took see how it really takes yeah but that's la it's just unnecessary it's unnecessary and um now i'm like completely removed from regular hollywood now so there's no reason to be there yeah and well regular hollywood is kind of yeah like sort of like what i don't even know what that is when people go we're doing a movie i mean comedy central's a production company at this point they're like barely a tv station they're like uh what do you have on so they have south park in the daily show those are the only things that are
like stalwarts and and they're both on paramount plus and there you can get them in a bunch of places and hulu and oh so i think they they are they basically canceled most of their stuff and sold it to warner brother to uh they sold like all their library to netflix and hbo max so i don't know what they are they just i mean the writing was on the wall when i when i saw what happened with ari and this is not happening when they [ __ ] that up i was like jesus christ and that was about him doing an hour for them right it was about him doing an hour for netflix yeah he got an offer for netflix which was more money yeah and more exposure and a bigger deal and he decided to do that and by the way this is a special that he produced himself self-produced bought it you know paid for it did the whole thing and they said that if you do it at netflix even though he was legally able to do it at netflix yeah contractually able to do it at netflix if you do it in netflix we're going to cancel your show he's like you [ __ ] [ __ ] well what's [ __ ] up is i know other people on comedy central that were able to go to netflix oh yeah and they were just like yeah you know i don't know what the deal was why they decided to do it that way with him but you know he had gotten to the point where he was willing to pay he was going to pay for the production costs in terms of like everyone's salaries he was going to take out a loan because he was so upset that they were going to lose their their money like ari's a really good guy yeah i agree i know he does some [ __ ] things sometimes like like you can he'll do he'll put be silly he's trying to he'll dose you or whatever around his family he's doing that to try to be outrageous he's not he's a good guy which is one of the things that bums me out so much when he does something outrageous but he's he thinks a lot about other people and
this is one of those cases like he was like i'm going to take out a loan and i'm going to pay everyone's salary because there was you know whatever shows they were obligated for 10 episodes or whatever all those people had counted on that money and he was really bummed out that they were going to lose that money and also like he was not going to give in to this bullying like them saying they're going to cancel the show if he goes over to netflix he goes what well then you're going to [ __ ] cancel the show yeah like [ __ ] you yeah this is stupid and then they didn't they did well they went with roy wood you know roy wood jr who was awesome great a great man yeah a great guy great comic perfect guy for the show if it wasn't re show you know i mean he's he's perfect but like to be there when ari created that show in the improv lab back when the lab was a real lab i remember it was a shitty little dark room in the back which was really pretty good so they kind of [ __ ] it up well they would do they have a bar in it it did because that bar is a [ __ ] nightmare it's a nightmare i've nev i've literally only bombed in there only one night one night me and seinfeld bomb back to back a month ago bombed aziz bomb dan levy but we're just bombing aziz said it was maybe his least favorite crowd in 20 years of comedy it's the worst room the setup is so bad and uh i did the improv the regular impov and crushed and i had a buddy of mine with me and i'm like i'm gonna do something next you want to see that and he went and watched me crushed and then bombed back to back it's like what the [ __ ] i go i know right crazy you did the cold plunge yeah in the in the lab it was so bad it's such a bad room it's like the door is right there next to the stage it opens up constantly the bar is the bars to the left it's but it's also the room is 45 bar yeah it's outrageous and we had two years to fix it during covet yeah and they didn't do anything did it do a damn thing we will not fix it they should they should make that bar a tiny part of that room it needs to be a tiny part because you only have 90 [ __ ] seats at most types i'd go 40. yeah like yeah maybe 50. it was a good move when when ari had done uh this is not happening there i
don't i think it was like just he would name each episode based on what the subject was like psychedelica would be one you know war stories would be another and you would you know go and tell your stories there and ari said you know i've got to come up with a way to work out stories to use in sets so what i'm going to do is have a storyteller show pretty [ __ ] brilliant idea yep and he set it up there and i watched him for years develop that and then eventually take it to the store and then eventually take it on the road and then eventually sell it to comedy central and it was a [ __ ] it was a great idea it was a great show and they [ __ ] it up they [ __ ] it up with one petty little move it was also never really on comedy central right wasn't it just on their own no was on the youtube and then it went to comedy central got called up to the big leagues got called up to the big leagues and you know he had a billboard on sunset and he had a billboard on sunset right when his special because he had a special coming out no no no the billboard on sunset was his show and it was right when he was feuding with uh howard stern mm-hmm so like it was one of the fun things that he did is he took because howard sterling was like who the [ __ ] is this guy by the way i i thought about it the other day ari was right what do you mean he was saying like podcasts of the future well he was i don't remember well he wasn't he was like he was talking about it basically like you're a dinosaur on satellite radio but i don't think that's what he was pissed off about yeah so that's what it was was this is not happening and and then his special was coming out that friday on netflix that's what it was um but he had it was something else that he was making fun of howard's turn about i don't think it was necessarily his stance on podcast but boy was he wrong about that yeah stern had decided that podcasts were a waste i remember him mocking podcasts back in the day and he was like you know you can't make any money and i was like i don't know what the [ __ ] you're talking you
literally don't know what you're [ __ ] talking about yeah i wonder what he thinks of you your spotify [ __ ] i don't know he's like yeah i don't know i mean he's making a lot of money still but it's a weird situation like the whole serious xm thing is a weird situation because uh you you get it for free in your car and they if someone was telling i think fitzsimmons was telling me they count the subscriptions oh yeah they're giveaways yeah they count as sales and it's like is it a well they count as subscribers and then but here's the thing man if stern lee they better pay him because of stuff he is it that's it if he leaves they're [ __ ] like they're legitimately [ __ ] and he was real like him being on satellite felt like very removed from culture whereas i was afraid that was going to happen to you on spotify i was hoping that was going to happen i was trying to get about 10 less famous i 100 believe it uh and didn't really work no didn't work with it like it didn't because you're still on youtube and that's right it's that but it also coincided with covid and a lot of people had a lot of free time and there's just a reality to things that you listen to all the time you get addicted to them it wasn't that hard it wasn't like you needed to get satellite radio like you just needed a different app and you were probably using the app anyway and people are using spotify anyway it's the number one app for podcasts in the world so when or at least now at least so when i went over there it just you know i was hoping i would become obscure whoops i would rather just take the [ __ ] money and just and just be able to move around easier you know yeah so what i said off the air it was like you're at the level now where there's a like the levels of fame where you have to you just park near the trash yeah where you have to go through the service entrance you come in yeah you have and every you just get like vomit it smells like vomit and old garbage everywhere you go everywhere you want to know like congratulations i remember one time i
was partying with dave in denver we did a show together and then dave knows these weird after-hour spots and i'm like where are we going in every city every city so we're going down this dark hallway right like and i'm like where the [ __ ] and then we go into this room and it's literally like a john wick movie like you open this door it's like a secret bar and it's not a big bar it was small there was like a 30 or 40 seat bar but it was beautiful like an opulent really nicely done like expensive liquor i go this is crazy what is women with perfect skin who are like racially ambiguous strange music players yeah they even you can't even [ __ ] shazam place it yeah like no don't bother don't bother my friend everyone calls you my friend who works there but we went to this place and uh they told him he couldn't smoke in there it was really funny goodbye i got all this and that'll do it he tried to spark a joint and they're like no you can't smoke in here like what this is no there's no one here this is a this is literally a secret bar you have dave chappelle smoking weed in your secret bar you should be happy don't want it we don't know why we don't want it but those little weird spots that like he knows he knows them everywhere yeah but that's he's been that famous for so long he has he's got to move around like that it's the last six years i'd say since the netflix stuff and since he came yeah since he came back yeah like after he took the ten years off and then came back his sabbatical yeah the sabbatical which is interesting you know well it like increased his legend yeah well he's he's the guy who actually walked away you know like nobody really does walk away from the money publicly yeah it's like most people just take it i think gandalfini did really at one point yeah for what what show uh yeah there was a day like his contract was uh he wanted a raise it was i i i was aware of it as it was happening yeah and then he they shut down for like six eight weeks oh where he was ready to
quit yeah oh wow uh it was just like a contract to speak and he got everybody more money but but yeah like he he was you know because you see how much uh yeah gave sopranos co-stars 33 000 each after hbo contract dispute wow he agreed on a 13 million contract with hbo after requesting 20 million per season after season three wow yeah but he he like wasn't he's like i'm not coming in interesting yeah well what happens with those shows is the network and the executives and the production company realized that there is a big windfall when this [ __ ] is over and it's going to continue forever you're going to be able to sell those dvds you're going to be able to sell the streaming it's going to be there's no streaming back back then it was all dvds yeah and the the windfall will last forever and you could be short-sighted as an actor and not recognize that this is something like the honeymooners that's just going to exist in the ether forever and someone always going to be selling it and buying well that's the thing like seinfeld friends seinfeld those lice those syndication deals are every three years so when they go larry david and jerry seinfeld got a hundred million dollars like they got a hundred million dollars a bunch of times yeah yeah quietly they it it's every three or four years and then they sold it to hulu netflix like yeah and then all these streaming places started showing up and they didn't and hbo plus and there was no exclusivity yeah [ __ ] great yeah no it's great but it is interesting that like there's this like weird moment where everyone's trying to figure out like how much can they take like negotiate how much they can but with a guy like gandolfini is like you don't have a show if i leave yeah and also they pretend they can't lie right it's like guys i can see how much money this has made like now i can see it if i go to the i remember i'm i'm sure if somebody will
say in the comments how long it takes for him to bring chappelle up you brought him up don't read the comments the record i know um the when we we were the number one selling show on dvd we didn't know we didn't think about it literally never thought about it and then they put the dvd on we're like oh cool they put the dvd dvd on and then we opened up some paper and it was number and we're like number one twenty dollars of pop how many and then you start going like well wait i'm making what no this is wrong right this is [ __ ] up and then you have to then you renegotiate yeah but you were lucky in that you had you had these existing numbers that someone could audit and find out like no no he gets this many youtube views he gets this many streams yeah that's what's so much more interesting about this versus netflix because netflix doesn't tell you jack [ __ ] like can you do a special on netflix very good there's a good job good job we like it how's it doing it's doing good good how what does that mean it's doing very good yeah what does that mean what the [ __ ] does that mean yeah but if it's on youtube you can go oh look at the numbers it's right there yeah 50 million look at that there you go 50 million downloads thank you elon musk you look at uh yeah you look at uh itunes you can get your downloads you know you know what you're getting yeah with with uh certain services like you have no idea stream yes and god bless i mean netflix is starting to talk about it a little bit yeah they don't have to tell you though but they really don't feel max is that what it is is hbo max or hbo go what is it they changed their name you used to be go yeah uh they was go then it became max transitioned yeah if i'm not getting into that you're not getting it i'm not good joe i'm not touching that but you just didn't i know i did but you did um
so and how is your uh the so you like austin i love it great yeah it's great and and doing comedy here too so the [ __ ] crowds are amazing it's been so much fun it's better oh yeah yeah there's no um there's no entitled douche bags here it's like all the stuff that was gross about like the agents and the managers and the network actors that would come to shows like oh that's gone yeah it doesn't exist it's just regular people yeah and they're fun and yeah i did a show last night it was what did you do last night uh i did the creep in cave oh the creek and kevin's great i'm there tonight oh great yeah ari's there too r is running his uh this uh new special that he's doing jew um he's uh doing what's the special called this is the special that he was working on before the the kobe bryant incident i forgot i literally was like why didn't you shoot it and he was like [Music] yeah so uh it was [ __ ] sharp i i'm i'm i'm curious to see it tonight i'm gonna go watch tv he said he's shortened some setups and changed some jokes good it was really good before you know i just don't you know there's a thing when you like revisit something after you haven't even touched it in years and then you go because he had like it was almost like a like a one-man show you know like a performance piece yeah it was basically set because we had talked about this for a long time because he had a really weird upgrade upbringing was he orthodox or something yes oh god okay um and you know he went to israel and stayed in you know uh yeah they did the whole deal where they would read the talmud every day for like 12 hours a day and like you know it was like super until he like lost his religion and then became sort of a renegade and that's one of the reasons why he's so crazy it's like like his childhood was like him and metzger kurt metzger yes very similar very similar with he was a jehovah witness yeah yeah where they feel like trapped in this well metzger is great at that too because metzger recognizes culty [ __ ] early on like he was like he was one of
the first guys calling this woke stuff cult like he's like they're in a cult he goes i know what a cult is he goes i [ __ ] grew up in one he goes all this [ __ ] is like you can't question it you can't look at it any other way other than the way they tell you to look at it it's [ __ ] cult stuff yeah and this was and he was saying this eight years ago you know he's he's always been ahead of that yeah because he had yeah i mean he had a special called white precious what else do you need to know he's so funny i love that [ __ ] like he's one of those like pound-for-pound like joke writers like oh my god [ __ ] nuclear and him together with kyle oh my god fantastic yeah uh the alec baldwin oh my god they're all great the [ __ ] biden was amazing boston massachusetts dunnigan's a [ __ ] wizard too man his voices are out of control that bill maher uh bill maher threatened to leave if we played it i heard that because he had one with him in a gang bang he's like i'll leave if you play it i'll leave ugh i like marcus i love i love building i know that i love what he's like and i love college but he's yeah i mean he was probably half joking anyway but yeah you know you know how it is yeah she's a little sensitive but i think mar is a very important guy and i think he's been killing it lately he really has been he's his monologues because he's really like an old school liberal you know he's uh he hasn't changed his stance on things he's always been progressive always been open-minded but he's one of those guys that has the courage to go what the [ __ ] are you guys talking about what's going on and he also will point out like and which is the thing i've been thinking about a lot lately it's like hey liberals i'm liberal this is not uh uh persuasive right what the way you're approaching this is the opposite of persuasive you're really turning everyone off yeah and i'm i'm with you and it's like but they it feels like they don't care about persuasion it feels like they just care about being right and they care about righteousness and it's like yeah but you
gotta you know martin luther king kind of had to sell people on the [ __ ] um had to sell white people on the [ __ ] and he i always point out the fact that martin luther king had got yeah right he was a reverend for real yeah like so he had like he had god on his side so to speak whereas it feels like liberals just have like guilt there's no persuasion mechanism you know other than like you should okay i'm a human being my default is not to uh righteousness and generosity it's not just that it's like the left all of a sudden embraced violence like when antifa became the like the strong arm of the left and people were supporting it like on cnn like it was no big deal that these people were like trying to light courthouses on fire like do you not see where the [ __ ] this is going like this they're not doing this for a logical reason they're doing this because people love to smash things yeah and the way they're expressing it he's found a different reason yeah and like remember on cnn i mean chris cuomo saying where does it say that uh protests have to be peaceful hey you [ __ ] kind of [ __ ] like what are you talking about how about if someone protests you don't don't you want him to be peaceful yeah are you cool with people being violent as long as it's not directed in your direction well quietly yeah yeah everyone's fine with the worst version of stuff as long as it's not aimed at them that's why they're pushing for war in ukraine like we need to go there and help you know instituted no fly zone like the [ __ ] are you talking about you want to go to war with russia yeah you're out of your [ __ ] minds i was i didn't do a joke but uh where where um zelonski was like hey can you guys um come help us and america's like no we don't want to be involved in world war iii and they're like please please come be in world war three like no that's a [ __ ] that would be a huge issue they're talking about us uh defending taiwan now that this i was reading an article about that today about bush or biden rather biden bush biden saying that he would uh offer
support if china invaded taiwan i'm like what the [ __ ] are we doing i actually think that the ukraine [ __ ] is like a good it's positive in terms of like everyone thought russia was this like you know huge fighting force and it turned out to be very disorganized and [ __ ] up it's very disorganized very [ __ ] up and um according to people that i'm friends with that we're talking about the weapons one of the problems is there's so much corruption in russia yeah their weapon systems are [ __ ] and they because they were charging for the latest and they they were yeah cutting corners making dog [ __ ] weapons and yeah you know and on top of that like the style of warfare that they have to engage in because the way the ground is there like they're they're they have to go on these roads so all the ukrainians do is get to the side of the road and wait for them to come towards them and then [ __ ] shoot him it really looks like a [ __ ] nightmare yeah like wow you really have to want what you're fighting for and russia it's kind of an el it's not even kind of it's elective it's not a it's not right existential in any way it's just like yeah you want to [ __ ] them up yeah let's go let's go [ __ ] them up yeah and on top of that putin supposedly has cancer yeah it's like jesus christ again how do you get a guy like that out of power and the guy who takes over like who the [ __ ] is he and is he gonna be worse i've read things like where putin hasn't rigged for like only he knows how to do everything like it's like a guy who's like he does he knows all the knobs and all the what all the remotes do so no one can move in uh of course he's been running russia for how long now more than 20 years yeah which is insane but it's probably how you get good at i've been saying this like that look it's bad to have a dictator but it's not good to have someone come in new on the job every four years for the most important job in the world because you don't know what the [ __ ] you're doing and then by the time you figure out what you're doing you're two
years in and all you're concentrating on is getting re-elected so you're i completely agree and i mean except what i don't see what's the alternative right but what's the alternative is we have a dictator which sucks you can't have that if it's like having tenure as a professor you know there's so many professors that are total [ __ ] because they have tenure they literally can't get fired so they can say the most outrageous [ __ ] and they could be terrible at teaching they don't care they're just free now well i mean most of the professors i know are just like they happen to get tenure and like [ __ ] cool it's like you get most guaranteed fifty five thousand dollar your job well it's also you don't have to worry about whether or not you're going to get fired you know there's some professors that have proposed some pretty outrageous [ __ ] and they can't get rid of them because they have tenure like there's this guy peter duisberg he's a professor of biology at the university of california berkeley and he was one of the guys that i had on early in the podcast that was like really controversial because spin magazine did an article about him years ago and i'm a young person what's a magazine it was um he was proposing that hiv was not the cause of aids but that hiv was a weak virus that only existed because the people's immune systems were already compromised and he was proposing that they were compromised from drugs and that if you looked at the cases where people had aids the vast majority of them were heavy drug users like they were they were doing party drugs and amyl nitrate and poppers and crystal meth and all that [ __ ] and he was saying that that stuff destroys your immune system [Music] widely dismissed by the scientific community i mean all the other doctors completely disagreed with them there was a lot of literature that showed that he was completely incorrect but that guy's a tenured professor who's done like really rock-solid work on cancer and some other things but he's still a
ten-year-old he just [ __ ] up he just [ __ ] up one thing i don't know you know i think most likely there's a kernel of truth in what he's saying in that drugs do compromise your immune system and if you do get hiv while you're doing all these drugs you are going to have a compromised immune system and you're [ __ ] and then on top of that you are also like when you're doing a lot of drugs and you're partying and stuff like that that's probably you're more likely to get hiv because you're taking chances you're doing risky things you know because you're [ __ ] popping it off you're getting you're you're lightening up like monkey box the guys are getting around there was a article that i posted who was getting monkey nobody nobody like how is it being transmitted it's [ __ ] hard to get man like you have to like it's sexually transmitted in some cases oh is it really yeah but i don't think it's the thing that we have to worry about like the amount of people that die of it is less than the amount of people that die of covet it's way harder to get than covet is oh i'm not worried about monkeyboxing i'm just more curious like what is what is this it just like makes you look like [ __ ] like you grow bubbles all over you or something but is it and you get a fever i don't know i don't know let's find out let's find out together worst case scenario for monkey pox i'm sure it kills some people but like what has to be wrong with you for you to die from monkey pox i think it's it's probably just like i've read fever and sores which seems like yeah partying seems like yeah i mean you really sounds like miami to me these guys um that got it in uh was it belgium there was a thing that i put on my instagram where these guys um wound up getting it from having risky sex yeah they were um yeah world health organizations emergency uh department said that the leading theory was sexual transmission among gay and bisexual men at two raves held in spain and belgium [ __ ] dudes who can't get pregnant
both viruses can cause flu-like symptoms but monkey pox also triggers enlarged lymph nodes as well and eventually distinctive fluid filled lesions on the face hands and feet most people recover from monkey box in a few weeks without treatment this feels like once most people recover from monkey pox in a few weeks for that treatment it's like i shouldn't know about this yeah you shouldn't know about this this is useless well i think the amount of people that have gotten monkey pox is very small yeah i mean i think it's like less than 50. let's let's let's ask this how many people have got monkey pox because when i was looking at it they were they were tracking there was at one point there was 11 cases that they're aware of of monkey pox in this one area i'm like that's it's definitely like clickable like it'll make me click on it it's a fun it's got monkey in it it's yes it's got pocks sounds bad it's just they're running out of stuff to scare people about at least 160 can for oh 160 in the whole world i like how they call a non-african country what is that why non-african that means it's spread out in this case it's been in europe all 10 of those cases have been in europe 56 in the uk 41 in spain 37 in portugal where they were butt [ __ ] and 37 single-digit cases counts in austria belgium denmark france germany italy and the netherlands sweden and switzerland all guys who butt-fucked in africa or wherever wherever they were at a rave yeah it's not that bad man what prairie dogs countries outside of africa who the [ __ ] is that mentioning africa like why are they saying i guess because that's where monkeys come from or some monkeys other than south america four time in india four times as many countries outside of africa have reported monkey pox this month it must have originated in africa than have in the previous 50 years oh so it's been around a while until recently the largest outbreak in the western hemisphere was in 2003 when pet prairie dogs infected 47 people in the u.s the [ __ ] has a pet prairie dog
what is who's keeping a get a dog you [ __ ] what's the what's the difference the prairie dog and a regular dog yeah regular dog is your friend prairie dog is a little wild animal that digs holes in the ground cows are those the ones that are legs those aren't like the sheep the ones that heard sheep no no no prairie dog is a weird dog i mean a weird rodent that digs holes in the ground like a squirrel yeah yeah they they uh they have to shoot them on farms like they set up uh rifles with like uh long-range scopes on them and shoot them because when these prairie dogs leave their holes cows and horses step in those holes because it's you know and snap their legs snap their own legs okay yeah they break their legs in these prairie dog holes they're a real [ __ ] problem on farms and ranches well they also gave us monkey box and they gave us monkey buck and [ __ ] them twice i wonder if you could eat them they're probably not even delicious um and uh oh did i have a question did uh we let's segue into ayahuasca real quick oh um let me spark up did ron white explain more about how he quit drinking or he just quit um well he he needed to oh of course but i'm saying like was that did he did he have a heart did he like have dt did he just did he have any sort of withdrawal or no not really um he um he had to quit for a while before they would let him do ayahuasca um because he was yeah he was ron white he was 50 years of every day yeah that's real yeah like um but here's what's interesting he's sharp as a [ __ ] tack now on stage i mean he is [ __ ] excellent ron white is a great comic he's a great comic like he's always been a great con really good but i think he's even better i think he's even better now he's so sharp he's so sharp and he's been micro dose apparently jim jeffrey stopped drinking too and said he's better than he's ever been really yeah interesting yeah well i mean look it it does drinking alleviates
like fear but sometimes fear is good for you it keeps you sharp yeah and in in exchange for the alleviation of fear it dulls your senses in some ways but it also there's things that it does that are good there's there's little doors that open up when i have a couple of drinks where i'm like what what the [ __ ] is that and then you start talking about something that you might not talk about or you see something in a way that you might not see it or you laugh at something you might not laugh at and i think it's beneficial i think alcohol in moderation has benefits to it i don't drink to excess though i mean i do on the podcast sometimes i've had some podcasts with some guys yeah we've gotten the one we do with um shane gillis mark norman and ari we do this thing called protect our parks and we do it like every couple months and we get obliterated i mean obliterate shane drank 15 beers 15 in a three-hour podcast 15 and he didn't even piss he just puts him he's a big [ __ ] yeah and he just puts him down big football playing ogre just keeps downing down in bud lights i'm like jesus christ man that is insane he had a stack of beers over there i'm like i can't imagine drinking that in a month and you just drank it in three hours did he bring his own cooler no we got it for him we had him all in ice form we know when he's coming yeah and so we we get cases like literally he drank more than a case himself jesus what the [ __ ] man and he was he like obligated no no no no no he was very very i mean he was obliterated but still hilarious yeah and very much uh you know aware yeah there are guys that if you have a good brain yeah and you add alcohol some good [ __ ] can happen that's him he can do that he can put it away he um he puts it away and can still be hilarious and he's silly and he gets he gets a little aggressive he gets a little aggressive like you punch r in his shoulder every now and then yeah yeah but in a fun way you know but uh yeah but other than that like the
podcast is without a doubt the drunk as i ever get in my life ever is during the podcast cause sometimes we'll get we'll be three hours in and i'm like oh my god i'm struggling to say the sentence correctly like i'm struggling to hide my slurring and that ari has to take over and ari takes over yeah well i'm going to tell you guys what's going on remember rubble juju juju i'm going to see jude tonight i'm excited because he's running it at 8 p.m and then we have a show there at 10. but his uh he said it's really tight he's really really happy with it and he's going to film june 10th and 11th in brooklyn is that right or is it 11th and 12th one of those i think it's 10 whatever the front what days what days are those those on you is that even friday did you where are you you got a new hour i mean you must have been yeah i got a comedy baby i got a [ __ ] out buddy yeah i was gonna say you've been you've had it for a while right i gotta get rid of this comedy baby you've had a yeah you're probably in an hour before copenhagen yeah it was ready i was ready before covid but i'm it's better off that i didn't do it then because honestly one thing that i've learned is that you know this is thing where you want to do a new hour as quickly as you can because it's kind of impressive and when louie was at the top of his game actually i'm going to say that i don't think that's correct i think is at the top of his game right now i totally agree i think he's at the top of his game right now because i think he has a freedom that comes from what all the [ __ ] his last two specials have been excellent the the one that he won the me4 i called him i texted him rather and i said the one you won the emmy for is great but i think the new ones the new one's better it's better it's really [ __ ] good and um i go i hope you win for that too but the point is it's like um when you're that like that sharp you get that sharp over time and for me like when louie was doing his ones uh every year i think it was a little too much i think you need two and this one has given me more than three and because of the more than three i've added a lot of
stuff to it i've tightened things up and changed things and i've also like this stuff like i could say this and it would be like more palatable yeah and or yeah and you also just go i don't want to do that bit yeah you're getting tired you just go like i don't want to say that i have better things to say than that yes and then there's ones that you're like this is like juice is not worth a squeeze in this bit i got to let it go yeah you got to know when to let them like do i like doing this or am i being stubborn am i trying to figure out how to make this work or am i being uh like crafty and like you know i don't i don't want to waste food you know what i mean like i don't want to waste this bit i wrote the bit it can fill five minutes it's [ __ ] funny like i don't think it's not funny right but it's just not as good as everything else yeah in some bits it's like they don't match you know like you're wearing certain kinds of clothes and then a bit as a neon orange hat you know it works but it doesn't fit with the other stuff and you got to try to figure out how to shoehorn that bit yeah did the other thing like or just cut it and yeah cutting it sometimes is the best thing and sometimes i'll revisit them like years later i've got like a stack of bits that never made it on specials that i should probably go try to find and maybe see if i could like rework them because there's like a few of them that were really good but for whatever reason i couldn't get them on a special i didn't fit in the act i was trying to keep it down to an hour whatever whatever the reasons were i just decided to stop doing them and then there's some that i wish i could do again because i didn't do them as good as i could have those are the ones that yeah yeah they want you i've watched people's specials and like thought of a tag or thought of a thing they could have done and sometimes i'll tell them i told dion cole one and he was like [ __ ] norman too i had one where he was like
oh or no uh brian simpson i had a i had a fix for one of his jokes and he was like i'm so mad i just shouldn't have told him uh and he's like i'm gonna show you the next time i have an hour i'll show it to you before i'm like yeah good because i don't know so he had already filmed it yeah when guys had already filmed stuff yeah it's like do you tell them well have you ever done a uh filming and then you have a new tag right after and it's the better tag you're like [ __ ] yeah yeah [ __ ] yep hedberg uh did that and then did the same joke again and explain that he has a new tag for it and then did the tag that's [ __ ] great he's like that was the new part yeah i i was at his half hour the that bad half hour that he like saved into him and my brother taped the same night and hedberg was just eating [ __ ] and he started talking about it eating [ __ ] and i think they made it longer or something or like it's a great it was for comedy central and it was a great thing because he just owned up to the fact that like this isn't going good that guy's so [ __ ] he would be so popular now like the internet is just patrice and him i always think like man those guys yeah patrice got a little internet love but like they'd be so much like the magnifying the amplification of youtube and [ __ ] would have completely served patrice would be the king of the world he'd be the king of the world yeah he would he would he'd be running podcasts he would be the guy that everybody wanted to listen to their take do you imagine his take on amber heard [Laughter] this crazy johnny depp trial but trees would be on fire did you believe any of the stuff they said about depp in the trial because i all you guys i was barely watching it i was seeing more reaction videos and it was like very anti-her and then they then they started presenting [ __ ] against him and i was like ah this doesn't sound great either yeah here's my take i gotta clear my throat here sorry this uh black rifled coffee it's filled with caffeine but it's also got some kind of milk product in it and it
gives me phlegm unfortunately um if you're doing that much coke and you're drinking and you're with a girl punches you in the face the idea that you are a monk through that and that you're not participating in some of the screaming and yelling and the chaos that doesn't seem logical it seems like a guy who is like really peaceful and really calm all the time would never get involved with someone that volatile and crazy in the first place that's what you would hope right that but knowing human nature you know he probably liked it he probably engaged he probably got caught up who [ __ ] knows they obviously had a chaotic relationship it doesn't none of it seems like fun no but it sounds the locations are incredible oh yeah now is this on the private island no this is in the this is in the blimp where we would travel the thing is there's clearly some deception going on and that's why this is like a valuable insight for people because people like that exist people like that where they try to change reality to suit them and make you look like a monster to make them look like a victim so that they can gain some sort of social credit or attention usually those things you can get away with those things if you don't talk too much like you get away with those things it was just like you don't go to trial as long as someone doesn't actually hear you talk about stuff because when you start talking about stuff if you're full of [ __ ] like that it seems full of [ __ ] seems full [ __ ] to everybody there's a vibe that people give off when they're not being truthful about something like that when you're really just you know you're doing something to someone you're trying to ruin them with lies and now you're getting confronted by and you realize it's overcome your whole life instead of it being a thing that you got away with and then moved on to the next thing because you know there's that expression about beauty beauty rather beauty is a short-lived tyranny and when you're that hot yeah you know i mean and that crazy and probably really
fun to be around like when she likes you yeah i bet it's so much fun yeah right she's obviously she's got these very intelligent super successful guys and she had them chasing her around she must have been a spectacular person to be around when she was fun [Music] but you guys are doing coke and you're drinking you're going crazy and you get to you get to hear the versions of the story that just don't make sense and you go oh this is this is just [ __ ] they're both they both sound it sounds bad like if half of it's true in both directions i'm like this feels like a tie for last it doesn't feel like there's a way i guess johnny wins in that he seems like a nicer guy he seems like a nicer guy he also people you see him on tv you're like i [ __ ] like this guy yeah i like this i miss having johnny depp in the movies um but but it seemed and and it it seemed like let's scorch the earth and he's like well [ __ ] it if we're gonna scorch the earth let's just scorch it and maybe because he hasn't worked in five years and he was losing jobs because of it and you know he then he had that lawsuit with the uk newspaper where they called him a wife beater and uh he sued them and lost yeah and that became a big issue i think he lost giggs because that's what this whole trial is about but what's crazy about that is like you're you're not proving that he was a domestic abuser you're proving that it's okay for you to say that because he might have been like like what did they actually prove like that's what i'm saying there's no it's like there's no obviously us the audience we won what a six week trial jesus christ [ __ ] spectacle it's it's amazing gorgeous two gorgeous people going head to head uh i should also apologize to the woman camille her name is camille i said her name was claire the other day i think i was like uh claire vasquez um johnny depp's the lawyer she's amazing that lady's incredible
but yeah it seems what is it i said claire again didn't i i did god damn it it's [ __ ] weed her name is uh it's camille right camille it's camille uh camille vasquez thank you yeah i apologized her for [ __ ] up her name she's that woman's a beast when she's questioning when they're going over the thing about whether or not you gave the money away to charity yeah yeah i pledged the money and that's not what i said that's not my question yeah and you're like oh [ __ ] yeah i've no yeah i've not no i have not given it but it's because then i had to cover this trial there's something about the way she turns to the jury he says it's like what is going on here because this is not a real person yeah like this is like psycho [ __ ] yeah what is that what's that way of communicating but this is what i was gonna get to no one looks good in those situations like neither one no that's what i'm saying like but no one can johnny already looked so bad that he was probably like well let's have you look bad a little bit yeah i think i don't think so i think he wanted to he wanted people to see what the relationship was like as much as it's possible to do so like this is what i was dealing with like this is the craziness now you see because one he probably knew when people would see her if you would like confront her with all the facts like we've we've seen it'd be like oh my god like this is like a criminal enterprise like what did you just well yeah she's not it's not on the up and up it's not on the opponent's like what no what exactly are you saying can we verify that well no i didn't yeah yeah the just the whole pledge the money thing if that's the way you're addressing reality where you can just make words do different things than they really do you know because you've said i gave away the money i don't want his money i gave it away yeah and then she had a year and a half to give it away and did give it didn't at all didn't yeah give and give [ __ ] yeah it's hilarious it's uh i mean i mean it's probably hard someone's got give you seven million bucks you got it in the bank and give it all i say i would go why did i say i would do that
i'll just give them a little see if they shut the [ __ ] up yeah and they were like nope over time and i'll make the interest if you publicly decide like that you know that you're gonna give away johnny's money because you don't want it like you kind of have to now but she didn't want to but that's just you know those people exist man you can get stuck with them you know they're guys that try to get you to loan them money because they've got an amazing deal and and some poor girl just says okay i mean i really believe in you baby and he just bilks her yeah that [ __ ] happens all the time yeah and then the baby is full of them they move on to the next it's just bad humans it's con artists and what and what yeah mentally ill people it's it's pure mental illness they're [ __ ] yeah but all that that bad vegan documentary and the the there's another the the tinder swindler just [ __ ] crazy dudes crazy dudes crazy if you borrow a hundred dollars from a girl that's not sexy if you borrow a hundred thousand from your girl that [ __ ] is very sexy they love that [ __ ] do you know the eliza story right the yale yes that is one of the wild stories ever yeah she told the whole story on the podcast that was riveted she didn't give him any money though right no but this guy pretended he went to yale and pretended he lived in a place where he didn't he predicted like he made up all this [ __ ] about his life and she found out after they had already been dating like they were deep into a relationship like she was having sex with a [ __ ] complete con artist just a [ __ ] artist who made up his past yeah and she like slowly would expose it uh terrifying jesus because you want it because you want to take people at their word right but if you imagine if you were in love with a woman like you met her like wow she's the one and then you just have the best time you have great sex you have similar interests she's funny you eat dinners together you have wonderful
conversations and then you find out she's full of [ __ ] then you find out like well but everyone's a little full of [ __ ] what if she has a fake accent what if she's faking you can tell which she's faking she's from brazil you can you can tell there's always like yeah there's always a little i'm very proud of myself one time i went to a guy's there was an accountant in the late 90s who was like an accountant to the stars and he was like and he was having parties and all this [ __ ] and uh and i went to his house and it was like way too nice and uh i somebody called me when i was leaving and i go i just went to a guy's house he's going to jail and six months later he was in jail there's a guy named dana jacquetto was the guy's name and he was the great accountant to like dicaprio and stiller and he was like a cool accountant and it was like you don't want a cool account you [ __ ] morons no no no and sure enough he went it was [ __ ] great oh my god he went to jail that's hilarious that's i have three great calls like that cosby i never liked uh i used to argue dave about it it's like no it's not a good guy and uh ty tiger woods walked past dave did something with tiger woods in 2002 and tiger woods walked past me and i my first thought was that guy [ __ ] a lot and i was absolutely right it took a long time to come out but it was like you don't have shoulders like that and give wasted on one person isn't he the first like real super athlete slash golf player he's the first he was the first golfer to exercise right but like not just exercising but yes like really exercise yes yes but do you think that contributed to his back issues or do you think it's just the sheer amount of torque he puts in his swing the there were a few articles and documentaries he would train he was training with navy seals like off like he'd go to pendleton or something what yes
it was yes and he would and he that's where his injuries started oh he tore something training with the seals and his life is so mysterious and like sort of secretive but that came out interesting and there's a picture that's how you hurt his back uh that i think he hurt his knee and then it it becomes like a chem it becomes like a you know compensation wow almost quit golf in his prime to become a navy seal oh my god tiger woods arguably the greatest golfer to ever play in the pga tour but he almost cut his career short in the middle of his prime to join the military that's right woods nearly walked away from the sport he dominated in 2006 to become a navy seal thankfully though he stuck to golf wow that's [ __ ] crazy yes dad was a seal and he would like go he'd go to coronado buds compound um then he started training himself and then he he tore something and then it's a then it's a domino effect well i know jamie knows a shitload about tiger woods oh that's like that jamie does he [ __ ] a lot jamie is a golfing fiend he's got machines out there he swings balls and he has a into a net here yeah so he's got like a thing set up where it measures his speed you paid for that job no it didn't really yeah can we throw it on the [ __ ] to hide it jamie no one knows well now everybody knows i got it um but you're you're like he's pretty much a golf fiend since we moved to texas jamie's become a full-on fiend yeah tiger's back now how's leg uh how is his leg uh actually not good not good yeah yeah he gets he gets fatigued but he doesn't have like i feel like the muscle like muscles are gone and uh so he can only a lot of it's walking like he could swing but it's you know he had to he couldn't he was [ __ ] they almost had to chop the leg apparently yeah so when you're in that sort of a state is that something he can recover from do you know um
i think i think it would have been easier when he was 30 right now he's 47 48 even with you know blood spinning and all that [ __ ] i think he'll eight years ago had a discectomy microdiscectomy to deal with a pinched nerve yeah back back surgery that had been troubling him in recent years this means that woods will not be participating in the masters instead of recovering from surgery so 2014 is when he had the uh back issue i you know those things are tricky those micro dissections especially when what you do for a living is physical well you're reducing the amount of disk space you have and i think people have fixed bulging discs with other options but i think you also can't do it and be that active like if he's got a bulging lower back so they do a fusion and then basically the thing that should be sort of well i know a little bit about this because i've had some spine issues so his uh his disc was bulging right and one of the options for fixing bulging discs is they trim the stuff that's poking out and then it's touching the bone no no it's disc tissue okay it's like the soft cushiony tissue in between the spinal column right there's the spinal bones and then in between is this cushy stuff that's your disc sometimes it gets herniated and when it gets herniated like can you hurt your back really bad it pokes out and it touches a nerve and it can give you sciatica like that's what sciatica is that sciatic nerve that's a nerve most likely being pinched when you say it's poking out it's probably poking in right because it's poking into the nerve into the body right but it's poking out of its cavity yeah so like it's range right into the normal range is it sits there like a cushion and then when it bulges it pokes out like this and it makes the disc closer to each other and there's ways that you can decompress your spine there's there's centers where they work on they put you on machines that give you like very subtle and like relaxing spinal decompression it's like it's not even uncomfortable and then there's also yoga there's also
a thing called regenekine that i had when i had a bulging disc which is this very complicated form of platelet-rich plasma and they they pioneered it in germany that's when like peyton manning yeah it was great yeah well they do it in america now and i had it done in santa monica and they they take your own blood out they spin in a centrifuge they treat it for 10 hours and then they re-inject and it says super potent anti-inflammatory medication but it's made out of your own blood your body completely accepts it and they inject it into the spot right they eject it right into where it was and for me it worked like magic it also worked for dean del rey dean delray had it done when he had a bulging disc that's what he got put in this is what kobe does i mean uh tiger got put in yeah you got this uh implant put in his spine whoa bro yeah holy [ __ ] that's funny that looks terrifying it's like a new pixar movie just imagine oh jesus christ man look at that so here's the problem with those though it looks like a hinge kind of a hinge well if it is a hinge that's probably better if it if it moves a little because they have these titanium ones um that i have a couple of friends who have gotten them done um al james sterling who were talking about earlier he actually had his uh spine done like that where he's got one of his discs have been replaced with an artificial disc chris weidman same thing there's like quite a few fighters i know that have had discs replaced but uh it's tricky business man you know sometimes you need it but uh sometimes things can be mitigated with uh other ways i know rolfing i know guys who've had uh bulging discs that they had a because everything was like so tight in the area they had a good experience with rolfers which are like really intense yeah i got raped painful i got roughed and it led to a very weird diagnosis the guy the rolfer i went to his wife did cranial sacral therapy which is like your neck head kind of spatial spatial massage realignment whatever he said he's telling me about his wife
and he goes uh she handles people that have a divergent vision and i go i have that and he's like what do you mean i go i think i know what that is and i think i have it what is it okay so i know i remembered my dad you i'd be talking to my dad sometimes and he had one eye closed and i knew and then i noticed that i started doing it to people i'd have one eye closed basically you have two eyes and they create a unified field of vision i have two eyes and it's i see one and a half oh wow so at a certain point my left eye just shut off so i could close your eyes well no it it'll come back on but my brain will not uh my brain is just right eye so your brain is always just trying to jump out of your right eye right that's the only like signal it recognized so like that joke in wayne's world camera number one camera number two camera i literally thought that's what everyone's vision was like so basically i've spent the last almost year uh turning my left eye on jesus and so basically i with oculus it's a 3d oculus exercises that i have to do every day basically and it's like space like picking one of them's picking fruit it's you k it's like a 3d puzzle that unless your left eyes turn on you cannot you can't play or you can't be good at and uh slowly but so now i'm at the phase where like both my eyes are turned on but it's one and a half and then at a certain point it will fuse into one image and and uh the doctor told me the guy that i went to said that like he's like i have patients that you know i can't say who did it but carl lewis told me that the sprinter said that i could tell people he had it done
and it like it was like he wasn't racing anymore but he's like i was jumping too early oh whoa because i didn't have depth perception yeah uh [ __ ] like that where it's like it's not apparently i don't have 3d vision i so i just do it based on other i don't know like i didn't know i didn't um but it was [ __ ] fascinating that i was just my right eye all the time you know michael bisping no who's that he was a ufc middleweight champion okay he fought his last 10 fights with one eye he lied about being able to see out of his eye he would memorize charts and he would uh just get doctors to pass things he'd pretend he did his head position change in fights did anyone know well he always uh fought with his uh left hand forward his right eye is the one that went blind and it's easy oh that's probably better yeah it's easier i mean he didn't always he could switch stances but he would fight with his uh left foot forward predominantly and you know he had a really good left hook which is how he won the title but uh that guy fought 10 fights blind how did he lose the did he lose him in a fight yeah he um he got kicked in the head um and uh got a detached retina and then had surgery on that and then had some subsequent injuries and then eventually it got kept getting worse and worse and it got to the point where now he said he could only tell like if the light is on or off like you could tell if someone switched the light on or out but he can't see anything in that eye in that eye yeah yeah like my i have to kind of it's [ __ ] crazy that i can be talking to you and switch that is crazy like i'm only right eye now and the left is soft and now i just went over to the left well i would also assume that like you would think that everybody sees the stuff the way you do because that's the only way you've been never and then the minute he said it i was like that i have that that makes sense because i've been thinking about a little bit like what is that thing with my
how come nobody else talks about no one you should bring it up on stage hey you know how you know you can't you see one and a half uh and you can switch between which eye you're seeing out of without blinking you just oh that's crazy go this is now i'm dominant right now i'm dominant left well you know i do a lot of archery and when you do archery most of the time i keep my left eye closed because i'm looking at this like thing called a peep sight and i'm looking at only through my right eye because i just want to concentrate on it keeping everything like perfectly well it's got to be how i you showed me the range earlier so it's 40 yards that ranges yeah the okay so the trajectory of the arrow or the whatever you call it in this case is it the same does it meander or is it like it's it can the velocity keeps it on the same trajectory well it's not the velocity that keeps it on the same trajectory but there's there's uh fletchings which you know you think of as feathers with or the the back end okay and there's uh there's different configurations and different configurations provide more stability like some i use a four fletch configuration and so you have four things steering the arrow and then you have broadheads that are designed to fly well they're designed to have good arrogant aerodynamic characteristics and there's like things about the shapes of the broadheads there's a lot of debate about that but the bottom line is then it's about the spine of the arrow how stiff the arrow is depending upon how much force the bow has you're going to need a stiffer spined arrow because you want a little bit of flex because it'll be i'll slow-mo it's a little flex but i'm wondering you're aiming at the bullseye and it the the the trajectory is from from the exit to the bullseye is like as it keeps going it's gonna straighten out more it's gonna the that's the whole idea about the fletchings and the whole idea about the spine of the the shaft and when you shoot and you release an arrow it's got all this force coming off of that string right and that's what's causing it to
wiggle like as the knock releases and then the arrow releases from the bow it's gonna wiggle but it's gonna eventually straighten out pretty much it's not gonna be perfectly straight it'll still have like a little bit of this this to it but very much like after you're getting after 20 30 40 yards it's gonna be pretty [ __ ] straight um but it's very scientific like you have to know how much your arrow weighs like my arrows weigh 540 grains and they're you know whatever twenty eight or something and a half inches long so you have to like measure the like because which like i have a 28 and a quarter inch draw and so then you have to put all this stuff into a computer program called archer's advantage and you'll run it through a chronograph and you'll say oh it shoots 275 feet per second okay and then you run all this information through this chronograph and then or through this computer program rather then it'll give you a sight tape and then you put the sight tape on the bow and you have to make sure that your 20 yard pin is dialed in correctly and once you do oh is that what that it's like a wheel that's on the that's actually on sharpshooters that yes similar but the sharpshooter thing is like much more exact because i'm not looking through a scope when i'm doing this this is just a sight so it's not magnified it's just a pin and the pin goes up and down to where 20 yards is going to be so 20 yards is there if i dial it down like now i'm in 40 yards now 150 yards and i can do it up and down with a dial so i can put it right on where 60 yards is and then hold the pin on it and if i release the arrow properly it's going to go right exactly where my pin is but it is it does take a little bit of calibration it takes a little bit of calibration yeah but well it takes quite a bit i mean you have to run things through a computer program and then you have to cite in your 20 and 60 yards like you have to figure out where your 20 is and then you back up until 60 and once you're super confident then you put the tape on and then once you put the tape on now you you have like everything from 20 dialed up to 120 yards because it's all done in math it's all done how much the the bow is going to release with so much energy but how
much energy is there after 20 yards after 30 years it's going to slowly start to drop and come down and that's all calculated in this computer program that allows you to spin the bow to exactly where the yardage is and before they had that it was just like i don't know but no before they had that look there's guys like uh my friend aaron snyder took a couple of years off of uh he's a really good like elite top of the food chain bow hunter and he took time off from bow hunting with a compound bone to just use traditional archery equipment so he was using a recurve bow and he still was killing everything because he's just a really good hunter and he can but he also got very good with that bow and there's all these videos of him in his yard of doing like these 40-yard groups with traditional archery just all stuck in this like like apple sized like group of uh of arrows that's very impressive that's [ __ ] hard to do and that takes a long time you can get proficient with a bow at like 20 yard shots where you can like get into this range i can get you there in a day yeah a day one day one day at 20 yards with a bow where teach if someone teaches you the correct way to release and look through the peep site something close like 20 yards i can get you there in a day with traditional archery good luck [ __ ] yeah it's a year right i don't know man i'm not good at it i did i shot it on vacation with my kids it was hilarious i was terrible oh my god i don't even know how to do it right it's like we mean i don't know how to do this part because i use a compound ball but it's so different it's like using a rotary phone but it's like it's probably there's something probably more connected about that because there's only like the string in the wood there's no cables and all this [ __ ] these cams like my my bow has a cam on the top and a cam on the bottom and as you pull the bow back the cams give you a mechanical advantage like rolls over and it's all like super high-tech [ __ ] so when you release an arrow from one of those it's like you're kind of like almost like less connected to it than if
you're you know pulling back some recurve bow and letting it go with your fingers that's probably you're probably even more connected to it how often are you doing both i practice almost every day and it's but it's also like a part of my like my daily routine it relaxes me i like because when you when you're thinking about a target like i just have a target set up in the yard right i'm not thinking about anything but hitting that target that's all i'm thinking about yeah so i'm just drawing back looking at the target and then releasing the arrow and there's a like a little dance that's going on between like your cognitive function your muscles you know handling the the anxiety of a shot like every shot gives you like a little bit of anxiety like is this going to go where i want it to go i hope it's weird there are no stakes other than yeah other personal achievement am i of am i have i been wasting my time no am i is this exercising futility am i a fault can i not learn can i not grow i never think like that but what's the anxiety it's uh does it hit where i want it to hit right but did i put it all together right it's not life and death no no but it's not like there's a there's a thing if you if you really want to get good at something you have to be as interested in getting good at it as you are at anything at anything i totally agree and it's all the same so but it's all um something of a metaphor for you i don't know if it is i think it's an exercise for keeping the mind active in a way that makes it non-competitive in regular everyday life and it makes it more compatible to socialization and to community and to just hanging out i think you need to do difficult things or you try to do difficult things with people i think people a lot of people start conflict because they don't have enough struggle like physical struggle i think you need something that's hard to do whether it's a mental thing like playing chess or whether it's a physical thing like yoga there's a i think you need difficult
things and i think when you don't have difficult things i think you make difficult things and i think you make difficult things out of your life i think there's a lot of people that i know that would be way better off if they had some conflict resolution voluntarily like just got out and exercised do you think did something archery is conflict resolution or you think it's it's so complicated it's like samurai or like you know what i mean like it's a discipline that you're humbled by golf is kind of like that sure like where it's golf you're playing against a course you're playing it's people i used to golf and i would get pissed and i'm like why am i pissed and it's because it it i to me it's like because i'm not growing i'm stagnant i'm a failure i've been dedicating my time to these things waste of it like i try not to think like that but i know what you're saying but i think you're i feel like you're saying the same thing which is yeah it's definitely it's fortifying and it's uh you want to improve you want to be on a path of some kind yeah it's fun it's fun to get good at stuff too it's like just accept what you are like you're a human being and one of the things that human beings like is we like it when other people like us and we like to do stuff and get good at it and especially if it's something you really truly enjoy like if you're a golf fan if you like watching golf on tv of course you're going to want and a thing you respect also yeah there's something to it right like it feels good it's exciting you want that yeah that's a normal human thing and so like i think people that don't have hobbies you don't have things that you enjoy you know and especially things that you're trying to improve at i think you're doing yourself a disservice and for me one of the things i like to do is archery because it's it's kind of difficult like when you're at full draw and you're trying to hit a target and you're you know you're just constantly you're
trying to use perfect form and relax and just a little move this way or this way and you're going to be off by you know six inches that's the ever you ever read off teleprompter i'm sure you haven't gotten terrible at it but the thing that i've learned reading off teleprompter is if i think about what just happened or what's gonna happen i'll flub it so i literally just go like one word at a time one word at a time it's a perfect metaphor for life because like if you think about like oh i [ __ ] i hit that syllable wrong and then you'll flub the thing you're saying and like oh that [ __ ] joke's coming up yeah yeah and then you [ __ ] you'll flub it again yeah thereby ruining the the thing you're yeah because you're thinking about the i mean again that the brain i think is uh the default is to think about the past and future and you have to go like no now right right think about now brain and it's like okay but i but i'm worried and i'm and i'm regretful but it's also you're talking about something that's going to be seen right if you're reading off a teleprompter it means it's being filmed right so this is that anxiety on top of it right yes but and it's and that's the but it'll be good if i don't [ __ ] a word up it'll just be better yeah automatically and there is the performance anxiety there's usually a crowd there whatever but like you just have to just like one word at a time yeah is there art there's an art to that man imagine though if that's what you did all day like imagine being a news broadcaster where you're standing in front of the monitor talking to you live from downtown los angeles where the mayor is interviewing yeah yeah well the people in the field don't have prompter but the there's all those jokes in anchorman where they just put whatever in the property right right right the people in this studio they all read
off teleprompter right yeah and it's like what is your job you're not even a you're not even you're not gat you're not writing this [ __ ] do you think they wanted to be actors and then it's like this became i think a lot of times they wanted to be actors but like their mom got sick so they had to stay in town there's always like you know what i mean like they want to perform it's so weird they're not public servants right and that by the way the news the news media the last 15 years has proven that it's like the brian williams once brian williams hosted cyrus live i was like it's over it's over even like he lied i'm like he was already lying they they i shouldn't know these people just tell me the [ __ ] news there was a there's a book called amusing ourselves to death which is it's by neil postman and it's like one of the best books about media i've ever read it came out in 1989. everything he said was true and he said that the mcneil lair pbs newshour one of the mcneil lair said once we put music under the news we were cooked because it's like you can't music is an emotional cue and it makes it a story and it's good guys and bad guys and heroes and joseph campbell [ __ ] and once it used to just be ticker tape that's really interesting i never thought about that but they do use music on the news yeah why are you doing it why do you have me yeah why are you putting news let me hear some music let me hear like what's cnn's music i want to hear fox news music and cnn's music maybe we could tell it's the election this is the election decision 2022. it's a millet it's a they're military marches or they're like this is [ __ ] true it's like why they put pillars in front of banks right because like would we have if we weren't responsible which one's that that's cnn is that
really cnn's music we're heroes and this is so [ __ ] important god damn it we're credible god damn it we couldn't get our hands on music like this if we weren't incredibly factual because they wouldn't give it to us that book is amusing ourselves to death read it if you if you have it's like boy oh boy and the guy [ __ ] called so many things yeah so many things what's his name again neil postman i'm putting that in my book list um amusing ourselves today yes discourse uh in the age of show business from 1985. matt what's fox news's music this is fun yeah my god i didn't know i really didn't know that it was that bad coming to you live hillary ate a baby i'm buying this i'm buying this book right now i just bought it great that is hilarious yeah this is like we're [ __ ] [ __ ] we're so legit this is god gave us this music this is from god it's uh it has less beats right listen this is way more predictable it doesn't get too high it doesn't get too low and it keeps you on a steady pace it's a dullard song yeah they're well there's no it's not those are breaking news that was just regular fox the first one was breaking that might have an extra up tempo that was right but does fox have a break yeah they're they're trying they're just establishing a level of uh not really no that's okay we get it you shouldn't be able to do that right i it's just it becomes when they and they'll put it on it just bleeds into the whole operation well didn't that sort of happen too when they started having editorial content jen saki officially joins msnbc yeah hello streaming show and uh assists with election news and she's gonna circle back it's not even a revolving door it's just an it's a we
work now yeah and it's yeah you literally are out of work for a week open you just she had that [ __ ] she won she had she got it when yeah she i mean basically you get it when you're when you get the press secretary job you've got your whole thing it's like i always make a joke with white basketball players where i'm like if you can't get an announcing job when you're done because they're just dying for a [ __ ] jj redick step right and jd reddick's great but like a cute white dude who played in the nba for 15 years kevin love kevin love is gonna be and tom brady just got 350 million like [ __ ] cute white guy that's [ __ ] got athletic credibility it's like oh [ __ ] we they they can't pay him enough so how many that's i was i'm thinking about this now how many different broadcast teams do they have does each team have their own broadcast team because you have so many games uh if they're not national and then they're like like cleveland has their local guys and then um like basketball they'll have basically a local a guy who played for cleveland and then like kevin level probably be announced for cleveland in two years and um and then like an announcer but they'll have like well back in your day and they'll have that guy for color and they'll have just like a regular announcer who's probably from anywhere and then when it gets to like the finals when it's on tnt and espn there's there's an espn team and a tnt team and then they have famous people do it yeah they yeah like they're it's the same guys every week i went to a professional soccer game this week first time it was [ __ ] great it was it's fun it was really fun first of all you uh when you see it on tv it's one thing but when you see the guys running in real life and you could see the strategy map out you see how they're maneuvering themselves like oh this is a pretty [ __ ] complex game
yeah this is a you know i mean and apparently the way they play in europe is like way more high level than even the american team yeah that's like on another level even better yeah so i would love to see one of those because watching this one live was [ __ ] amazing it was super impressive a lot you there are things that you go to and you go oh i get why this is a thing yeah oh it's like i totally i don't especially care but i get and it's also up where else i mean now more and more but where else do adults get to yell is there anyone more annoying than the soccer fan who insists on calling it football and even writes football if you discuss it i don't get upset what is that a seagull what was it someone it's like someone who tells you how to spell their name crazy soccer crowds that oh they're out of their minds look at these people yeah but you know like saying it's football like yeah settle down uh it's settle down yeah okay you can call it whatever you want yeah but you know what i'm talking about right yeah the thing that we're talking about okay yeah um what did your daughters take you no no no uh one of my uh friends local guys great we had a good time yeah those live sports are fun football i think is too big the feel it's not i think a lot of sports football especially i think it's better on television yeah um i think you get some real [ __ ] good like replays and [ __ ] if you're watching on television yeah like soccer's so easy to follow what's happening um you know the ball is moving around nothing happens i mean that's the good thing about soccer well it takes a while for something to happen and when it does happen it makes it more exciting yeah it's like the difference between having sex every day and having sex once a week so being singled or married oh yeah it's just the the skill level and then also i'm just thinking how much my [ __ ] knees would hurt like well i always make the observation that you ever watch the world cup in a bar with women i remember one of the world cups i watched a couple world cups i watched in bars with women women
male soccer players women get a little like oh because they're because they're like they're not they're also not yoked and they they've got limitless stamina and especially in the world cup they're all ethnically ambiguous and like a little like cute brownish with a little stubble well they're legs man and nice legs legs yeah i mean to be able to do that to run as much as those guys run like jesus christ the kind of shape you have to be in to play professional soccer is nuts yeah they probably all end up running five miles a game easily and you're kind of sprinting like you have to absolutely sprint yeah you're either like barely jogging or you're sprinting yeah and to watch them move the ball around was super impressive yeah to watch them like their little moves they do when they knock the ball side where they fake like they're gonna go and then they don't go it's like it's you really appreciate it when you see it live because you know ian edwards uh has been a soccer fan forever and i've always given him [ __ ] about it yeah and he's got that soccer podcast and we had made a deal like okay we're gonna do we're gonna go see a soccer game together and then we'll go do a podcast but i went before now i'm gonna do it again though i'm gonna bring them yeah it's [ __ ] it's you get it it's like it's a thing no it's it's exciting it's exciting sport it's funny how so many kids play it but like professionally i mean it never really caught on in america it's like school band a lot of kids do it fourth fifth sixth grade and then like i don't know what happened to you in the flute i don't know i gave up on the request we kind of just i don't know i don't i don't know what happened you know what i don't know what happened but now it's more popular than it's ever been i think kids stick with it yeah i think so too yeah i had a this is big family problem is uh i i played soccer one year and um you were got were like they said get shin guards at the beginning of the year and um and i realized i was like everything was a hand-me-down
so we had to wear a cup and shin guards and i was eight and the cup i got from somebody from one of my little rows too big so by the end of the year i had bruises on my thighs and really bad birds on my shins because uh when they said shin guards my family said you mean knee pads we're gonna just tell neil our shin guards and i didn't realize that it was supposed to be hard and they were just oh yeah and they were just i was just like really yeah oh my god that's uh that's ten kids god damn dude uh that's one of those things that i just remembered like oh yeah that was kind of fun huh chins are a [ __ ] painful one too man yeah um i had a shin in i was doing i did a show i did my new hour like in new york for like four months like off-broadway and every night i would kick over a chair in like an act out and i had like it looked like a compound fracture from the brews i had to like do it i had to like restage it cause i'm like i'm gonna [ __ ] br i'll show you the picture it's like hitting it with your shin just because you were just hitting it wild it was kind of funnier like that was the funniest way to knock the chair over oh and uh and it ended up like it just looked like a kind of awkward yeah it was just funny it would like make a louder noise whatever whatever um you have a photo of it yeah hold on i need to see this yeah no it is it's a pretty uh it's pretty arresting photo hold on second one that's a there's a recent trend in mma where guys are hitting guys with calf kicks well that's what i was wondering you did the stefano was telling me that you spent yesterday you did kicks for an hour and a half and i was like doesn't that [ __ ] what does that [ __ ] up does it [ __ ] up your shins does it [ __ ] up your ankle no like there's gotta be some wear and tear your knees take beating especially if you have a hard bag it seems like
softer bags you could kind of get away with it a little bit more you have this nice fair text bag that's not too hard got a little give to it oh jesus dude oh chihuahua yeah like the left it's just it's swollen as [ __ ] yeah yeah and it took like two weeks to go down one time yeah i've seen a lot of those yeah i'm sure yeah like because i was kicking like metal if you kick bone or bone on bone yeah see these guys they they chop at each other's um calves like almost immediately now it's so effective one hard calf kick sometimes and a guy's foot goes numb and he can't use his foot front to the front yeah you well you kind of get it around the edge but basically when you're kicking guys you're kicking them like right you want to get your shin like right into here and there's not a lot to protect you there so when someone can chop away it goes right into the nerves yeah and sometimes it just short circuits your foot and your foot just goes numb and dangles like michael chandler actually lost a fight from that like the referee stopped the fight because his foot wasn't working yeah it was in bellator it was kind of a [ __ ] up stoppage you know because uh he was fine and he would have gotten fined but it was a fairly new thing this calf-kicking thing is like a pretty reasonable they were great it felt like they were trying to chop the front for a while doing that too still they're doing that too guys must have gotten just snapped bones from that correct they've got destroyed knees for sure for sure so um in this fight it was with uh brent primus and so he hit him a bunch of times with really good low calf kicks and you see like his leg is like giving out see it oh wow it's like it's not working right and then he chops at it again and then it just gives out so his his knees just it's just not working or his uh his leg rather it's just not working and it's an it's a nerve thing it's not even it's not boner it's totally a nerve thing and he's trying to punch him but look you could tell like he's got no balance because his left leg is not it's just not working and the the referee stopped the fight do you have to uh do you have a dress
code for for announcing uh i dress nice i wear a suit i have a david august suit but do you like you have one suit um no i have a they may be a bunch of suits but i always wear basically the same colors great it's just black shirt but no i'm wondering if like they like hey i just try to look the least distracting i just want to blend in i just want to get get the guys on camera you know but you sometimes you'll be wearing a t-shirt no am i making that one no no no no no is that weigh-ins you're wearing a t-shirt yes yeah okay the weigh-ins are pretty casual the weigh-ins are basically just um a ceremonial weigh-in everyone's already weighed in that day it's not like that's the moment where they get on the screen oh that's like for the show yeah oh that's interesting yeah so you get to see them like oftentimes like 15 20 pounds heavier than their actual weight because like we don't do the weigh-ins until 4 p.m but i'm pretty sure they can start weighing in early in the morning sometimes as early as like 10 a.m maybe even earlier so they've already they're done cutting weights yes exactly oh that's interesting so they've cut weight and then they started putting water back in so you're catching them like four or five hours later they look great they're all like rehydrated great and they'll do it slowly and you know take in some fruits and some depends on what kind of food they eat but they'll they have to kind of slowly start eating again the ones who cut a lot of weight what do you attribute the fights at weigh-ins too i don't know man no i guess like trying to intimidate each other right and then it's just like i know [ __ ] you ain't no [ __ ] today yeah there's a lot those also can't they they can't wait to fight right with a very lot of anxiety and they think they might be able to get a psychological edge you know but sometimes like uh one dude got po he got pushed in a fight dracar close he was gonna fight jeremy stevens and jeremy stevens shoved him like really hard at the weigh-in and he [ __ ] blew it blew a disc out
like something happened and the guy that got pushed he got hurt he got hurt because he didn't expect it and he was [ __ ] up for like a year after that and did he fight no the he never fought oh they canceled the fight cancel the fight because of the push and if you watch him watch he pushes him away see that see his neck snaps because he doesn't expect that to happen so it's like whiplash yeah like that wasn't his like watch it again watch his head see how his head snaps you can pop pop something in your neck like that like that's you know car accident type [ __ ] this guy's staring into our soul in the middle this white guy's staring right at us sean shelby shawn what are you looking at sean um but that push right there cost him the fight so that's one of those things is like he he get a settlement i don't know what happened i really have no idea other than jakar was out for quite a while he was out for quite a while did you go to that island no i didn't that's in uh abu dhabi oh god but that's like when they were doing the fight island thing that's a giant commitment like you're over there for many days because you have to they have very very they had very strict coveted quarantine yeah rules and it was pretty you couldn't leave the hotel it's like it was it's like meeting putin you know food would make people you had to get like tested a week you literally had to wait a week you have to wait a week to meet putin is that now now now because he's immune he's compromised because he has blood cancer is that real that's what i've heard yeah yeah but are we are we being propagandized uh i've heard it from people who would know that they who heard it from like that's pretty good source but i don't know i made who [ __ ] knows who [ __ ] knows i who i don't you know again it's like in the new information economy wow oliver stone says putin had cancer in years he shadowed him for his project wow well they're saying that's why he's so bloated it's not just like some
russian [ __ ] it's the that head it's like remember when jerry lewis was taking steroids and he had a big face like that big moon phase like that from the steroids yeah i knew a dude who was on prednisone for something and that happened with him he just blew up that's what they're saying so is this what i mean what the [ __ ] what does a guy like that do a guy who's been a dictator forever dude and you you're dying of cancer do you give up the throne like how does he how does he stop running the country does he try to run it until he like imagine if he's dying does he try to run it until he's dead i'm sure he's delusional uh you know what i mean like just being a dictator makes you it's i lit it's a term i use called uh when someone's in a fixed fight i call it a a putin karate tournament like oh this is a [ __ ] putin's karate tournament like when someone's gaslighting me and their friends are i'm like this is a [ __ ] putin karate journey that's so funny that's such a great explanation for gaslighting karate yeah it's like so he's got he he's just gonna be like you're the champ right vladimir until he [ __ ] dies wow i bet that's what happens i bet the amount of detachment that you get when you're a dictator you know they talk about the amount of detachment you get when you're wealthy you talk about the amount of attachment you get when you're famous and then it becomes like when you're a famous politician like the amount of detachment you must get like how do you relate to the regular folks when you're the president of the united states you probably don't but the amount of detachment you get when you're a [ __ ] dictator when you're literally yeah kill anyone but poison them and he's doing it in the age of the internet it's not like russia is not like north korea where they can't have access he's there it's it's not unlike north korea i mean i would a there's a movie called uh they have access to they but they haven't blocked no they have [ __ ] blocked they have a lot of [ __ ] they're not getting information about you okay right now yes with ukraine yes definitely but i mean like when he was
running the country up until this war they basically had the regular internet didn't they there's a documentary called hyper normalization yeah it's uh yeah adam carter's where it's just like they create this weird you don't know what is real what you saw what yeah it's contradicted state state uh messaging reality like they're where they they've done things where they would change stories like uh like when they were bombing they they had like false flag [ __ ] with chechnya and all that [ __ ] and then they would change the story like five times in an hour on tv and then so by the end of it you're like i don't [ __ ] know that i like that explanation um so they they i think they have like limited i was in china before right before covet i was scouting covet i was in china and they they have they you can use like there's like you can use vpns which is like you can get around the sort of scissors yeah the they call it uh a mesh curtain meaning like it's a curtain but you can get yeah and then but my buddy told me that when there's like a big state operation you vpns don't work really like they there's just levels to the amount of [ __ ] that they can but control until the invasion of ukraine russia's internet was it basically open like ours i would get i would guess it was not but since 2012 russia maintains a centralized internet blacklist known as the single register maintained by the federal service for supervision of communications information technology and mass media look at that word how do you say that word neil give it a go uh the list is used for the censorship of individual urls domain names and ip addresses so yeah like china google no but but edward snowden lives in russia this is what's confusing to me like for sure that guy has access to the [ __ ] full internet
yeah i mean i bet he figured it out but i it's like is my does my mom have unlimited internet she she goes down the main streets right right your mom's on facebook yeah from facebook t-shirts yeah your mom's on facebook on facebook she's on the she's on the main street she's not going people like you and i will go to and then people that are 20 are going to places we don't [ __ ] understand like right so yeah it's just a matter of like open but like you're kind of just naturally cautious you read one thing about viruses you're like i shouldn't i shouldn't go on that so i think most people i don't think old people know about vpns i don't think you know what i mean like i think that there's i don't the truthfully i don't know but i'm guessing it's not as open as america no no it can't be as open as america there's no [ __ ] way but i thought that for a long time they had like a pretty normal access to the internet i didn't know that since 2012 they've had vpns have been outlawed since 2017 there wow what happens if you get busted with a vpn imagine you're doing time what'd they get you for vpn yeah i was trying to watch netflix in a different category did you watch the navalny documentary what's that alexander navalny the guy like putin's main no uh it's on cnn or it's on hbo plus what i don't [ __ ] know it's somewhere it's just type in navalny uh and you'll find it uh but that guy got poi i mean he got [ __ ] poisoned twice yeah that's the guy and then they have video of audio of the plane and he's just going like ah he's just moaning on and on and there and it's by the way it's not a shot of him so it's just a shot of an airplane they have a really nice they the uh the uh they filmed him nice they like they when they yeah this [ __ ] guy it's amazing the amount of power that putin's been able to hold on to i mean you know what's making me laugh is
when they said uh they're gonna put the squeeze on his mistress and i bet putin's like oh no not my mistress like but i promised her i'd always be good or sure he's like yeah go ahead and squeeze her it's fine there's a reason she's my mistress and not my wife like she's not my top broad you gotta squeeze or squeeze her i mean he he must have like a harem yeah if you're the the president of russia for that long i mean he gets whatever he wants well that's like a story about the football ring you know the nfl story the robert crafts yeah i don't exactly remember it sergio simpson was the first person to tell me it's like what that's real he robert lets him hold the ring and putin that's putin hold it just takes it puts it on and walks away and he starts moving towards like hey that's my [ __ ] super bowl ring and the the russians put their hand on his chest like this this is mission no this is what welcome to putin's craft explain the incident to those in attendance at carnegie hall's medal of excellence gala saying i took out the ring and showed it to putin and he put it on and he goes i can kill someone with this ring put my hand out and he put it in his pocket and three kgb guys got around him and walked out so he just put it in his pockets i'll take this like it's mine now thank you for this gift first of all killing someone with a ring is super impractical you'll hurt your hand i'd rather punch someone too i'd rather punch someone without a ring like rings are not they get they kind of get in the way like it's not a brass knuckle you want to use the knuckle right that's what you want to strike brass knuckles are awesome if you have a pair of brass knuckles boy that's real is this the hardest part of the hand that's the part you can hit things the hardest for sure because it's protected you know the top of your hand like where you punch with knuckles is a terrible way to hit yeah everyone breaks their hand yeah super common it's kind of funny though that that is
what's protected because it is protected by gloves but so is your skin your skin's also protected by that too like when they do bare knuckle boxing people get really cut up but what's crazy is you can elbow somebody in the face you can knee him in the face and you can kick him in the face like so you could hit him with your heel but and that's stronger right like significantly oh yeah i can kick right through that door with my heel i could just just walk up to it and stomp the whole that there's not another part of my body i can hit it that hard with you're healed you can you're running all day you know well that's what i was thinking so they're moving there's no repetitive stress injuries with you just you you just train for kickboxing right jiu-jitsu you definitely get repetitive stress injuries i have injuries all over the place my knees are always [ __ ] there's always something like my lower back hurts a little sometimes it's like there's a certain amount of recovery you have to do when you're you're doing that kind of explosive stuff and you have to be like really careful with stretching you got to be really careful with um the time off in between the recovery stuff is really important like the saunas and cold plunge i showed you the new cool cold punch they set up here that's how that's [ __ ] real important you need recovery you can't just work out and sometimes people just go too much one way well that's what most hgh and all that drug use in sports is just recovery yeah everything is recovering yeah testosterone as well i mean look you don't get big muscles from it you get big muscles from the work that you do you get ability to cover yeah you get an unusual ability to recover and then of course there's stuff like what bodybuilders do you're taking it to a completely different level like what they're doing is like an amazing level by the way guys keep it up it's what an insane sport have you been to a competition it's one of the most riveting i went 25 years ago on accident so strange i was walking past the beacon in new york and there was like bodybuilding competition this saturday and i was like well i know what
i'm doing i literally just went to the box office handed over the money was it really good it was [ __ ] it's crazy it's just a crazy culture like that the documentary uh humbling iron generation iron oh one two and three on on netflix amazing excellent maniacs these guys oh yeah i've had ronnie coleman on the podcast dorian yates the white guys put they do they do a roll on like a paint roller spray tent oh yeah me and sean youtube video of us that is animated of us talking about how they have chocolate body because you're not allowed to do blackface so they they get all the way up to the face and they don't do the face because they used to they used to do the face yeah they can't get away with that anymore it's so funny it's [ __ ] super white bilberry looking guys we're black from the neck down it's so crazy very funny it's so crazy but the video of me and shaub is [ __ ] hilarious because it's animated yeah and they just show like the the guy who did it polytune is amazing he does he animates these little funny clips of stuff and that's probably one of the funniest ones ever because it's just so preposterous that people paint their whole body black well and that it's just accepted within the what's in the sport well it does make your body look better you know like the dark colors like they highlight all of the muscles they're like really accentuated it's more shadow right yeah well you're looking at a like a really white guy like a william montgomery white guy like that's like you're looking it's like blinding you know where's his muscles you can't tell it's almost like you need to put some dark on them to like get the chocolate them off chocolate them up chocolate them up to get the the sense of what it really uh what it looks good you know what what muscles are in good condition but it's such a crazy [ __ ] sport because those guys are on death's door they're they're ready to die of dehydration yeah they're up there they're starving to death yeah when you're that shredded [ __ ] that is so not normal no it's you they just like they're ready to black
out and if you're going to date one of these guys be prepared to make chicken breasts a lot of chicken burriss and broccoli yeah you have to eat like very lean stuff because you're literally trying to get down to i mean what is the lowest they get to when they're walking around let's let's guess what percentage body fat right oh they're what's mr olympia let's come up with a more percent i think it's lower i think they get lower i think they get to like three lower way lower really there's only two levels i think it's a claim he made on here who is it ronnie coleman said he was point three percent body fat oh but that might not be real so many miles do they count like him in that intestines like is that a good question you know what i mean like well by the when you're that lean i don't think you have fat anywhere like when you get that lean it's not like you would keep like gut fat or you're you're that shredded in your legs and your ass and your back like when they get that christmas tree thing in their lower back and you're flexing like i didn't even notice that those were muscles look at that thing yeah it's preposterous at the competitions people are yelling at like pop it ronnie and they they take it and they have to like place their calves it's amazing well ronnie unfortunately was a guy who suffered from a lot of back injuries and worked through him because he's so tough that he would blow his back out and keep like in the mid set and keep doing the squats and just destroyed his back yeah and he's had every single disc in his back fused now it's odd they don't even make that much money i had less than one percent body fat before he died oh jesus christ christ andreas oh oh my god look at that he looks like a guy he looks like an open micro go back to that um first picture again that one that's insane man that's insane that is so strong look at that white face though look how white his face is he doesn't even get laid that much more
do you know what i mean he's got a little bit he also got that weird thing where like you don't some guys shouldn't be jacked like that like it's not for your body look at that you don't think that looks good on his body not with that head like it looks like photos he looks like human photoshop where it's hilarious you're not supposed to be you you're not evolution wise you're not supposed to look like that really i don't that's what you see he looks like a like a an i.t guy or something do you know what i mean like just you it's just not for you like he's for he's without antibiotics he doesn't make it antibiotics meaning his uncles and grandfathers should be dead look at that is that real i don't know i mean he looks like he's hiding his head popped behind a different body that's so different than those others looks like a carnival thing where you stick your head in the circle yeah but it looks photoshopped like the thought that actually looks photoshopped it's got to be photoshopped yeah it looks so big i don't think that's real jamie and the face looks like it's got a different resolution than the body am i wrong about that no that's not wrong it looks weird it looks it doesn't look right it looks too cartoony see like look how different he looks there it's just not straight it's not like that's that's yeah but that's so big look how small it's wasted it doesn't look real the lats like that looks real that looks like a super jack guy but it looks real that other one didn't look real see like if you see the difference the amount of see okay that's the real picture that's the actual picture okay so clearly yeah so that looks normal i mean for a super jack bodybuilder guy that other one was too big so that's the actual picture before they [ __ ] with it yes you can't tell these days these wacky kids their photoshop skills it's a deep break so that was what his little his liver looked like they're that when i found his name it said that they did an autopsy and it had like less than one percent body fat oh
is that what seems to be like whoa look at that girl look at the girl with the green top yeah that might have clicked on that said that's insane oh my god look at her abs a lot of these articles though i will note are saying you should not aim for zero percent body fat oh yeah for sure like what that what you're seeing with her is super super [ __ ] impressive but also very unhealthy no yeah it's not good you can't maintain that your body needs some fat and it's also it [ __ ] with your thinking like you can't think good you're you're this is an eating disorder it's like a bad eating disorder there's something to it there's something along but it's like a body dysmorphia thing yeah there's the thing about like the biggest bodybuilders sometimes they don't feel big they feel small yeah and so they wear like bulky clothes to like cover their body yeah it's really weird yeah well body is morphing hard not no that's uh that no that's real no but that's synthol that's right it's not yeah it's not real muscles yeah that [ __ ] dummy like there's so many dummies that inject oil into their muscles it makes their muscles swell and look big but it looks like that looks like you've got water balloons underneath this yeah it looks like fake it looks so crazy it's absolutely like useless useless doesn't work and looks insane like it like and you can't compete no there's no there's no advantage you can trick like one person you're not tricking anybody and it doesn't look good on anybody but the thing is it's like we've whenever there's a thing you can do you're gonna find someone who goes too far right like there's some people got face tattoos like this isn't like that bad yeah and then someone makes their whole face look like a skeleton and you're like oh jesus yeah you're always there's always going to be someone that does that yeah and with that kind of stuff there's a whole group of guys who it's extreme to yeah the interest is extreme and then it gets like but it's also like girls with giant fake butts when they don't know that everybody knows that that's it looks insane it's so sad i find it so sad like some of those girls
can barely walk it's like it's so odd it's just weird that they that they i mean it's just bad body dysmorphia yeah it's it's a the weird society thing that is happening where we people are shoving things into their body and it becomes normal like fake boobs are so normal it doesn't freak anybody out at all you got to realize like that didn't even exist until what 1980 something remember that there was a documentary on it i think it was on hbo with david schwimmer i think he played like the first boob oh yeah breast man or something yeah yeah yeah yeah that was it i mean think how crazy it is that super invasive plastic surgery is uber prevalent yeah just uber prevalent yeah and all it does is make boobs pop out that's all it does makes them stick out more and you know that there's a [ __ ] surgery that took place where there's a bag of stuff underneath them no it's great so odd and then people act like i've dated so few women with fake boobs because like it's like you're lying you're just lying like you're just it's people that catfish you and then it's like and then you show us like so am i supposed to not say anything you know you don't look like the way you presented but the reality is that they look better that's the that's what's so wild about it so that's the problem i have no one cares is that they do technically look better guys don't care no it doesn't bother them at all uh no didn't he used to do that joke like if they're yeah if i can touch them they're real it's it's like uh there's no equivalent on the male side there's nothing like that yeah debt yeah like you could present yeah dad you can pretend you're rich you're really like deeply in debt and barely hanging on to all this stuff yeah yeah that's all we get yeah and then those are the guys that hit the girls up for the long but i think i've heard guys get peck implants and yeah there's there's one crazy guy that we detailed on the
show that is a uh he's like a male ken doll and he's had more than 100 surgeries out of his mind everything like he's all his muscles are fake like he gets fake thigh muscles and yeah they look great the thigh muscles look great in his jeans they really do can't touch him though no they probably hurt like hell it's got plastic in there i mean there was an article i haven't read yet but about like how the recovery from but from brazilian butt lifts it's like you can't sit down for you have to lay i'm assuming you have to lay on your stomach for a couple weeks oh jesus christ how do you [ __ ] standing up in the shower um that's a great question and i don't want jamie to look it up i was just saying it i'm looking at the video of this guy and he's got blood implants it's the guy it's like it says his rival there's not a chance in hell did this man straight there's not a chance in hell no that's his rival yeah yeah so that that guy there though is the one on the right the that's the guy that's had a hundred surgeries and this is the one who's liking his head 90. he said 90. i wonder oh these guys look at these guys that like that look is crazy male multiple liposuction etching so is it etching on this fat transfer he looks like he's got a filter on his face it looks like an uh instagram filter yeah they both do wild look at his butt like coloring wild he had a butt enhancement bro look at that it's a hell of a butt though i mean what a dunk the guy's jacked you got to give it to him out of the two of them i think he's the hotter one you like the guy on the left no the other one the one on the right on our right that's more yeah see look what he's done i like the guy that's closer to my body type yeah like there that's you i like the guy though so this guy the guy on the left is the guy who has the thigh implants he's got plastic in his thighs that make his muscles look bigger and his shoulders his biceps yeah everywhere all over the
place so don't expect him to pick anything heavy up oh dance boys yeah see is the muscles how they poke out pretty wild that line is gross it just doesn't match up with the upper thigh but i wonder if like what happens if you're doing that and you start lifting weights like you start actually getting big do you have to take them out your skin probably stretches to a point and you maybe will start hurting like you're shoving these implants into your [ __ ] skin as your body grows and these things are stuck and then they get infected it makes me kind of like sick to my stomach thinking about it like stop doing that to yourself you know danica patrick actually just had to have her breast implants removed were they infected or one of those things she was having bad reactions to having them in their in her body and she didn't realize uh how much trouble was causing until she got her removed and she documented all this stuff on her instagram page and it's like she could see it in her face she said she just feels it everywhere there's like uh cat zingano ufc fighter she had the same thing she was just feeling terrible with them in her body and well it's like ongoing like anaphylactic shock well your body's just rejecting it yeah your body's like why is this here why is this here why is this here why is it here it's like if your body like you ever see things calcify you know like if something gets stuck in your body it can capture oh yeah yeah yeah do you mean sometimes the outside of their boobs is like hard with scar tissue like it's like your body does not want that in there no do you ever watch that show botched on yes that i that i can take shape a couple minutes of that jesus one person just had fluid coming out of their head just like oh christ like the mental illness is what freaks me out the thinking leads them to thinking that that looks good like when they want to get their lips done crazy yeah and then they want to get them fixed and the doctor's trying to fix and like [ __ ] the only way you can get plastic surgery that's any good is to
not have friends that have also done it so that people are giving you an honest appraisal some people get it done and you're like this [ __ ] looks good well um what's her name the one of the kardashians the young one kylie jenner kylie jenner yeah right she had a lot done but she looks like the young young one the bruce isn't that kylie the one yeah yeah young one yeah she had like there's crazy before and after it's like right but yeah like she looks like not she doesn't she looks like a different person different person and then they have kids and you're just like when so when can we start operating on you because you remind me of who i used to look like oh jesus christ basically oh my god what else would you think when you see your baby and you're like oh we can get this fixed oh my god she probably said when she was 14 or 15. the thing is like your [ __ ] head's still growing right like you don't even know what it's gonna what's going to be its final form and you're going to go in there and shave things down with a bone saw because you want a more contoured chin what the [ __ ] are you saying yeah and then other people go oh my god she looks so much better i want to do that too oh that's crazy i knew a dude it changed his [ __ ] life my friend max he had a um extended lower jaw like his whole life like sling blade and then when he was 21 it was a serious operation they saw your bone of your lower jaw and take a chunk out of it and then put it back in place and screw it in and screw his mouth like you couldn't talk couldn't [ __ ] eat or does but then he became awesome then he became a handsome guy yeah so when he was 21 all of a sudden he's like we like handsome he's like a good looking guy world rewards handsome he's got a great face but it's like he was a freak yeah you know before that and then he became this handsome guy yeah like a really interesting turnaround because like it but you know that thing of like tall guys make a million dollars more over a lifetime handsome guys make they don't it's impossible to they can't they don't have
a number on it because it's like handsome is relative but the height is heights giant absolute there's a lot of factors in uh what makes people attracted to people what makes men attracted to women what makes women attracted to men and for whatever reason there's some people that like to deny those things or to distort those things to make people feel better it's very odd it's just so unnecessary it's like just acknowledge what it's like i'm just waiting for fat bodybuilding because that's one of the things that uh helen park rose and uh james lindsey and peter bogosian when they had those fake grievance studies one of the things they wrote about they had fake papers that got critically acclaimed and uh they they had they got reviewed and even won awards for fake papers uh but one of them was about fat bodybuilding they were talking about you know bodybuilding being more inclusive to fat people and fat you know like they wrote this nonsense fake paper they got that got reviewed yeah and uh it was about fat but but i'm not thinking that's too far off man have you seen this whole sports illustrated uh uh swimsuit issue thing where it's like you know people are talking about these people's bodies and this is terrible it's like well it's a different thing this is what it is it's a different thing because what it used to be this swimsuit issue used to be look at these insane bodies of these incredible athletes and these gorgeous models that are like you know the rarest of rare human beings it's unusual to look at look at them crazy and you would see like kate upton and you know uh ronda rousey was on the cover of one of them you would see no that was a different one she was on the counter yeah but you're seeing these uh uh amazing bodies and then in this they're saying well these women have value too well the thing is well it's like well what are you are you talking about personalities well if yeah if you're talking if you're talking about personalities yes then that's a dif then what do you do because if you're because you're going she's
uh she weighs 300 pounds but she's got good skin do you know what i mean like you're you're still saying you're still putting value on symmetry or skin or shape or something that people can't control well they're so it's just like a little less hypocritical but it's still either you're talking about like she has a beautiful spirit just puts put a paraplegic put someone who is just or or someone who's a great writer or a great comedian or someone that's like a great has a great personality why'd he do whatever the [ __ ] you want to do if that's what sports illustrated wants to do nothing wrong with it there's nothing wrong with having those girls on it there's nothing wrong with any of it but it's a different thing now yeah this is a different thing than it used to be and that's what i'm saying about bodybuilding like if bodybuilding if everybody looks like bert cricher and they're like that's beautiful too like okay that's not what we're here for and we're here for freaks the the the argument is that it's uh we're conditioned to like certain but that's not true and i don't it's like evolution wise and they go what about botticelli and their women were bigger and plumper back then it was a sign of no one had food and the people who had food were high status and yeah once we learned about nutrition and once we learned about health and arteries like you kind of the the beauty i don't think the beauty standard changed good skin i would argue good skin would work in at any period in the last fourteen thousand well here's here's a un undeniable truth that we accept wholeheartedly with men when you are overweight you have more of a chance of having a heart attack more of a chance of all sorts of other cardiovascular issues all kinds of uh increased inflammatory markers that lead to a bunch of different diabetes not good just accept yeah yes but we never think that way when it comes to the public declaration that all bodies are beautiful right all bodies are beautiful means i ignore all the health consequences of this the
the choices you've made to make you feel better right so it's either you are the rarest of rare that had literally no say in what you ate and someone fed you and turned you into that thing and you really wish you didn't have i think something people have like hormonal or glandular actually you don't have a sexual problem they do yeah there's no doubt about it and they can eat uh 1500 calories and they'll still be that's generally not true okay yeah they have slower metabolisms but calories in calories out it's pretty strict science okay you know it's like people do have faster metabolism they burn off more but if you're only taking in 1500 calories you keep gaining weight that doesn't make any sense it's like where's the mass coming from like how's it even been how is it being fed you know you have to overeat to get more but morbidly obese like when you're you're looking at people oh yeah morbidly obesity but i'm just talking about like or whatever yeah yeah a lot of these if that was a man you'd say morbidly obese in some of them well it's like would they say a heroin addict is beautiful i guess they did during the heroin cheek but like i think that was more a look uh but like would sports illustrated put a heroin addict woman on the cover they would say that she has a problem but why doesn't what what's the aren't they aren't they the the the the uh portfolio of health issues i'm sure are relatively similar very similar yeah it's one of the worst things you can do for your overall metabolic health is make your body carry around an extra 150 pounds it's terrible for you yeah it's just not good for you and so you can say you like the way you look this way and i say good on you have fun but if you try to say that it's healthy you're really talking crazy and the reason why i have to say anything about it is because there's probably someone out there that might believe you there's probably someone out there that's listening to that and saying oh it is healthy to be 150 pounds overweight and they don't give a [ __ ] about the fact that they're overweight
and maybe maybe if they didn't hear you say that they would take into consideration the fact that these people that aren't this heavy seem to be happier they seem to have more energy they seem to be able to get more done they're not in pain all the time maybe i could get there and then you find out about people who did get there online and they give their success stories and talk about how they used to deny it they used to be in denial they used to lie to themselves and say that i feel great i don't need it i don't give a [ __ ] what i look like but then slowly but surely they came to the realization that it's a terrible life choice and then they did the right thing they ate well they dieted they exercised and they slowly but surely got to a healthy weight and they feel infinitely better that's the message i want to hear i don't want to hear you know it's it's healthy to be 150 pounds overweight it's just not if you choose to be 150 pounds overweight good luck to you i i hope you uh i hope you don't encounter any health consequences i hope you live a long healthy life but the the reality of what we know about the human body is if you continue to be grossly overweight for long periods of time there's a high likelihood that something's going to go wrong yeah that's just a fact yes this doesn't mean we don't love you well yeah [ __ ] doesn't mean the it's like you're making bad decisions somewhere and maybe they're having repercussions yeah for i mean they're having repercussions for you individually and they're also having repercussions in the health care system overall for sure because if ever if 40 what's the stat 40 or 50 of people are are uh obese now i think it's we did it recently what was it jamie it was in the 40s right somewhere in the 40s i think yeah it's like holding someone to a standard i think the rest of people are lying i think it's higher than 40. i really well yeah yeah i'm sure uh yeah if you go to the airport it seems like if you go to disneyland yeah go to disneyland yeah you're gonna be like oh we got a real problem go to knott's berry farm do you know what's interesting about disneyland okay you don't have to be fat or injured to take on them scooters
you sure don't you could just get the same thing yeah but that's weird that's a weird it's like that's a loophole like if everybody knew that all you have to do is just bring a [ __ ] motor scooter and get around disneyland like everybody knew it's just an availability issue and what if they ramped up the number of scooters what if disneyland becomes [ __ ] scooterville and no one's walking around you don't even get any exercise do you think people are abusing it i think so i saw a girl i thought was abusing it i saw her i was like well it's the comfort you should be watching comfort cart i know but maybe she's injured maybe i'm wrong right maybe i'm wrong yeah but i saw a guy jump right off of one and then i asked them i said ed when you have because when when our kids were young we'd get a stroller you could run a stroller there and so you know they get tired they're four years old walking around disney world or disneyland but when you go up there i go what do you have to have wrong with you to use the uh motorized one like nothing yeah you can just get around a scooter you could get around i mean it's you could get a bird scooter basically they're just i mean you know like but everybody else is walking yeah i guess with some people they can't really walk that much some people i mean some people that make sense old people make sense the it's the at what it's like cultural values where it's like health versus like discipline right or self-esteem versus discipline those are the two polls to me like those are the two like you what you just said versus like yeah but they're nice and we don't want to shame people and the truth about shame in my experience is it's a catalyst for movement yeah this catalyst for change yeah it's a catalyst for improvement a lot of the time do did i overly beat myself up and that probably led to depression yeah but i also got good at [ __ ] and i don't it's like one of those things
like i see the point of not shaming people but also you know the shame itself can be beneficial the point in not shaming people is don't be a [ __ ] you know and the thing is you're gonna have people there's gonna be plenty of people out there that don't get the hint they don't get that memo and they just act like [ __ ] don't contribute to that but don't think that things that make you feel bad don't have some real benefit to them because they really do there's things that make you feel bad that if you could just figure it out you're going to be better because of this yeah it would be like not doing interventions on drug addicts because we don't want to shame them it's like well what do you call it it's like to hold them to a standard it's people say it's i'm worried about you're going to die that's kind of like the theme of most interventions but it's also your waste like people waste their lives they get caught in these patterns and you need something sometimes to step in that gives you a little break from that pattern that lets you sort of reset and reassess and there's a lot of people that do that and then they jump right back on the horse but a lot of people don't it's a good number it's a good number of people that get sober i've known many in my life and some of them with zero programs my friend dave dolan he quit drinking cold turkey when he uh crashed his car and uh abandoned it at the scene and uh and then got in trouble and got his driver's license taken away he was like [ __ ] this i'm quitting they shamed him the police shamed him well he was ashamed they held him to a standard yeah and is that shaming is if you feel shame does that mean someone shamed you it's like bombing yeah bombing can be a tonic yeah where you're like oh because there are nights where you're crushing and you're like am i richard pryor yeah wait a minute seems like i'm like for sure and then you [ __ ] bomb the next night you're like okay the back to the drawing board or that you know i would i'm i
i will stop doing that tag i will stop doing that order i will stop doing whatever i did did the audience shame me i don't know they don't have any reaction the problem is it's a verb it's just it's a state it's not like them shaming you it's like they did something no they didn't like what you were doing and they had criticism right that's it's normal and also it's like for comics there's the moment after you [ __ ] film when you have sheer terror because you realize i don't really have an act anymore sure oh my god that's the scariest [ __ ] moment i think i may have because i've waited so long i have the hour i've been doing and i have a new half and by the time i film it joey that's good i can you know yeah if i don't have 45 i'm in i'm counting out premises right now i'm counting up promises i'm going to cut some extra premises i gotta wait till i give birth to this comedy baby and then i gotta get some mushrooms in my system i need uh like a good one like a mushrooms and like two grams in a notebook or five grams in a notebook five grams in the tank with uh a phone on that you could say hey siri and give voice notes too interesting yeah have you done it yeah you gotta do the hey siri thing i tried for a while to have um uh like a tape recorder running like one of the little digital recorders and i had it velcroed in there but everything gets [ __ ] up from the moisture and the salt in the air it's [ __ ] up the electronics and then i also tried the i'll remember this method no you won't hi i've used the i'll remember this method and know you you will but not you might you a lot of times you can't yeah um i text my other phone um uh idea sometimes i have a notebook i mean i have the easiest whatever the no notes yeah i have the notes app too and you could say that hey siri make a note and it'll do that you could do that i've done that in the car before it's great if you're driving then also you have this idea you don't even have to touch your phone just say hey siri and start talking yeah and you know it'll
leave a pretty [ __ ] good representation of what you said in terms of like the way it uh yeah the captions on on instagram are like you're [ __ ] you're pretty good at this pretty good just [ __ ] talking into it it's um pretty amazing pretty amazing what they could do now with that they have it down where you can uh listen to someone talk in another language and they'll translate it i know there was one i saw the other word classes or it's an earpiece or something where it'll come in it's um it's it's google's yeah it's for the pixel phone so it's like um i think that's the only thing at work is that the only thing it works on does it work on other devices and it's just a google buds right okay but it did it has nothing to do with the actual headphones themselves so the app would work on an iphone as well oh really i'm pretty sure of that oh i thought that was a feature exclusive to the pixel phone which is one of the uh the things that was a selling point of it yeah we could test it right a couple weeks ago yeah you used to have like a deal for an android company right didn't you i did the voice over for samsung for a long that's a sweet couple of years son you're telling me joe you want your coffee no thanks uh that was a sweet gig that was a great gig oh my goodness really really nice guys making in that chatter but did you have to use an android phone because you had an android phone for a while yeah in that time i did and then i secretly why did you shake that it's gonna explode all right i didn't i've never had it before i'm not gonna now i'm not gonna no i'm gonna punish it i'm gonna shame it i'm not gonna put it over there i don't think it's carbonated um you should check but i don't think it's carbonated i'm just joking um i wanted it it was a gilgliff it would blow the roof off i want to i want to talk about because i'm your depression correspondent oh thank you i needed one for what i wanted i think i've been it because by the way most people the things i've talked about uh the uh
the uh electromagnetic stimulation yeah uh that's a big one um electrocranial ec whatever electro cranial why am i forgetting so let's let's give everybody the run down right so here's what i've done all right i did uh i did cat i did like zoloft for a long time right 15 years of zoloft um 15 years as oloft and a little bit of wellbutrin um uh and then then i tried ketamine uh did a week of ketamine or fi and i just didn't like it no but you just tell people like what the history of depression is like what is your history oh okay i always felt we used to just call it like a new york attitude and then in the 90s we called it a new year and then i realized like i don't experience joy like i just don't really experience joy very much and there's a thing called dysthymia so i went to a therapist they diagnosed with dysthymia in 1998 or nine 1999 and uh started taking zoloft and was like i liked it i remember saying to dave like i don't want to dance but i understand why people dance the first time i'd ever understood i was like i understand it i don't want to do it but like i get it i can see what's relevant about it it's hilarious and uh and so was on zola for a long time and kind of had no side effects from it like sexually i could actually last longer so i was like great can i ask you something about this uh not never having joy but what about when you kill like what about stand up that was adrenaline really yeah just because i see like when rock gets off stage and he's his pupils are like he looks like a zomb like his people are so dilated from the all the oxy like more than anyone i've seen get off stage like a dip we all have like a glow when you kill and you go like well they were nice but he gets like really [ __ ] dilated so i would just get like oh good
um so you would just get like a relief yeah i would just get like probably ego but not elation but no that was fun yeah not elation is there a thing you do that gives you like like a video game or any kind of activity that gives you ooh that was fun uh i would go historically grand theft auto i'm dead serious really especially the one in miami for use of vice city i think that would really hit me how long before they do that for the oculus and give you like a fake car to sit in please you know how wild that would be i mean my friend peter has a he's a like a serious car driver he has a race an actual race car yeah and he has a uh f1 simulator in his house uh-huh so he has like a steering wheel and do you watch the show on netflix by the way no everybody keeps telling me i'm just going to be the third one if you want to start with an episode it's called man on fire episode three i start with episode one bro okay not great i mean you're not gonna you're they're not gonna get skimped i'm just saying like one of the best camera coverage and narrative and a near-perfect television show i can't wait because everybody says it's awesome yeah and you know they have a formula one track here and so last year we went to circuit of the americas to watch for all right they do a race down here right dude it's wild watching those things yeah they're very fast they're so fast yeah and the the amount of traction that they have the way they can cut corners it's insane and so peter has this thing in his house and you know it's like it's got a shifter and everything and he said this is like a rudimentary version of there's one that's like worth 1.5 million dollars and you sit in a [ __ ] car you sit in a car and there's a lcd screen that wraps entirely around it and the thing moves like the way the car does yeah so as you're going it banks like the car like actually i feel like every team has one at this point they must yeah because otherwise you're just you're either doing that and you're getting like really close
skill development or you're risking your [ __ ] life like whipping around the track every day yeah which is also not easy and it's not good for the car like the cars can't really run that long i wonder if you you if they do train on it or if it's just a supplementary thing because i would imagine there's there's no substitute for actually making the decision to hit the corner at the right time yeah there's no substitute for like you know getting the timing of the i know they all do the simulators because they show it they all do whether it's the 1.5 million or the 100 grand one like i wonder how much they supplement with that you know it doesn't make sense though that if you did both the racing like you don't do certain amount of actual track racing certain amount of track running you know and practicing and then a certain amount of simulation it would definitely up your numbers like it's all about getting the numbers in right and getting the yeah just reps especially if you've never been to a track before like if they can give you a simulation and you can download um you know uh a simulation of that track and you do all the turns in the right order they that's what they do yeah that's amazing that's a great thing they have like tracks and then they yeah they have to know it's like a it's like a golf course somewhere they have to know the exact yeah but you don't have any time to make [ __ ] ups like unlike golf yeah golf you have a lot of time no it's so [ __ ] dangerous it's so dangerous and what they're doing now with cars just regular production cars you're getting regular production cars that have near supercar capabilities well i was doing a joke about it when you were saying well what gives me when i drove a tesla and hit the gas i laughed out loud i literally left and i was like i have to get one because nothing makes me laugh out loud i laughed out loud like god damn it this is funny and i don't even care about speed or cars like [ __ ] like that the thing about it is though it's actually safe because if you wanted to merge into traffic if something went wrong and you had to get away from something really quick you could get away from you said
yeah yeah well that's why it helps me drive like an [ __ ] because i can cut people off and then be like yeah i won't put it i'll be out of your hair and it's like silent too yeah so you're cutting you're taking off yeah it's like did it did it even happen sir if you do that in a corvette you sound like a douche bag yeah you do that at tesla it's like what what happened there was a pleasure the pleasure was all mine he doesn't have to slam wow do you what do you drive the most um i drive my tesla a lot yeah but uh i also have a a dodge ram that i drive a lot too because i'm in texas you've got to i had to be a sucker but it has a thousand horsepower is that the truck or that's the truck it's a trx tennessee trx great so that's i drive two stupid things mostly done yeah um all right so back to depression so tell me you've this history of just always having like this no it felt like a low grade like sort of a lead blanket oh and i think it read on me you know what i mean like it's kind of like a thud or a hump you always did seem like a little surprised if people were nice to you if that makes any sense yeah i had low expectations for people's behavior well that was my i know that's a weird thing to say no that was my honest take of you from like when i first met you yeah like i was always like hey man what's up and you're like oh hey hi like you almost like well i always say that about you like you were nice to me before there was any reason to be other than just being a decent human being like like you but j like from 1992 whatever november 92 or whenever i met you the first time till today well that's nice to hear yeah i try to be nice yeah so it's like something i work hard on yeah it's it's really important and it's hard for you because you're
such a piece of [ __ ] i think anybody could be obese no of course given the wrong circumstances but um i've always tried to be nice no yeah and i would i can i'm living proof you were nice to me when i was in 1819 yeah you were a door guy yep boston comedy sure uh there probably was like 91 or 92 men yeah what would you do is when that's when you started yeah because i lived there until 94. yeah 94 was when i made the trek out to hollywood i remember when i did fear factor and then uh i did the chappelle show and i knew that you were running it with dave i'm like that's incredible because i remembered yeah from the boston comedians i'm like dude how did you do this is amazing yeah remember we we filmed that thing in that freezing cold [ __ ] warehouse and we had those burners you had to stand next to literally a fire you had like a propane burner and you're standing next to this [ __ ] blow torch yeah to try to form [ __ ] free like you couldn't we couldn't figure it out and dave never broke character never real character and uh my friend eddie bravo was with me and andy bravo had just gotten back from abu dhabi which is the world jiu jitsu championships where he he tapped out hoiler gracie and so dave would walk by and go horse gracie you tapped out horse crazy and eddie would go no toiler hoiler he goes hearts crazy and he was just he wouldn't break characters tyrone bigham's like the entire day was hilarious he was hilarious yeah he was very he that was before they broke his heart yeah he was he was young and and just uh having a great [ __ ] time that mo that sketch was in 04 that wasn't that long before like we were that we it was soon well you guys did it for two years and it is in my opinion the funniest sketch comedy show that has ever been made i think pound for pound funny nothing can [ __ ] with it you have some of the best classic sketch comedies that i've ever seen in my life like the [ __ ] the guy who is the black white supremacist who is blind yeah
yeah yeah no i know it's just one of these things where i'm like man that's a good [ __ ] j like god that bit was so good yeah that bit was so good that when i saw it on tv i had to put my hand on my face like i was like oh i remember writing jokes for it and being like wow that's a very good job there's some bombs and then you're in it too and your [ __ ] head explodes yeah oh yeah that's right yeah yeah yeah no there was just a lot of like and that's just the first episode like there was just every week there was some good [ __ ] there was so many men i mean for something that came along that was only for two years it wasn't that long you know in terms of the amount of time that was on the air and then but it [ __ ] it was the the highs were so high that if that show kept going i really believe that i mean i think dave and you could have kept doing that for years that i don't know about i think you could have kept doing it i think it's hard i know it's hard but uh you guys had a special thing man yeah you really are good and dave is especially good at that he's a small that's what it is because i used to put like now i think i used to put eddie as number one in sketches and i'm like i think dave might have taken like i think dave might have taken him it's close it's definitely close you know the first one that i did with you guys was before you i did it with bobcat goldweight or oh no i was there but yeah without sorry before it was on the street yeah before i did it it was a [ __ ] great i saw uh we got you uh d snyder from sister and stephen king he was on the same day just walking around the city and stephen king asked the [ __ ] in retrospect the coolest question it was ask a black dude and stephen king said do black people want to go to black dennis and black march like black mortuaries whoa and it's one of these things of like wow you have a [ __ ] good brain dude because he didn't think about it right it was just like yeah i got a question um but uh yeah it was yeah and then yeah
then we bumped into you and i just had the feeling that day like this could work out like this we're getting good breaks yeah like good like randomly yeah like opportunistic you know or opportunities that were like fortuitous yeah for me i was just walking down the street and i see dave with a fake mustache and he had a box he had like a box yeah i'm like i go i go what are you doing man yeah joe i'm giving out the best new york boobs yeah and so that's so stupid you have great new york boobs like you can't even do that today no absolutely not there's not a chance i mean he pins a new york boobs medal on that lady yeah yeah yeah like her dad and that's her dad yeah there's no way you could do that today like he might get canceled just because we're bringing this right here can we get it off the screen they might pull that from youtube this could be a real issue now uh they they'll put it on their list they'll put them on their list changed in 20 years that was 20 years ago yeah essentially uh so so yeah so that was but even then i was just stressed that again that felt good to have an accomplishment yeah so once it started going and you realize holy [ __ ] we got like a really unbelievably good sketch yeah it's just you you start from a place of like not a lot of worth and then you do [ __ ] that's like oh that's unassailably worthwhile like you know what i mean and then you get a good feeling i got a good feeling that a bad feeling wouldn't end but i had a good feeling from doing it i really loved doing it and it felt like you know connected it felt like in the in the in the flow so to speak um i know you know have you guys ever had a conversation about doing it again or doing another one yeah and we both were like um it just didn't it's like there's a there's something about it that's like a young person's like 29. interesting we're 29. so it's like you've got more
anger you've got more uh energy you've got more like fight and and then you get nine times money it's just you just get more like yeah more energy with the subject matter too more more edgy with the subject matter you take more chances yeah it's just you just don't know you're just reckless right you're just right that he dave one time said that we're like thrill killers yeah where you know i'd he'd be like i'm gonna shoot i'd be like chop their [ __ ] head off yeah and you're like i'm going to show the [ __ ] you know it's like you just get like you know what we should do yeah so the r kelly one yeah he's peeing on a girl yeah yes like [ __ ] like reckless reckless like should we be doing this this is very wreck like and then you know who's doing that now is shane gillis gillian i loved his hour yeah but you know have you seen the gillian keith sketches i've seen a couple of them trump speed dialing speed dating i don't think i have here play it just put that on well we'll you need to watch this first of all his trump impression is off the [ __ ] jar and they do these sketches like they had one of them was a dad uh went to only fans to pay the bills he's like that's funny shoving a vibrator up his ass like he'll play this welcome to speed dating each of you is going to meet for about three minutes then you're gonna hear this buzzer okay and when that goes off we're gonna move to the next table ready to find some love tana what are you doing here i was asked to speak at this hotel it turns out there's some type of [ __ ] banquet going on you know one second just give me a second [ __ ] you you [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] ugly fat orange [ __ ] social media they had to take it away i was too good in fact go ahead put it back up put it back up people say i've got bad makeup donna looks like someone painted her face like a clown that's what we're gonna call her tana
it the clown she looks like him she looks like she should be in a sewer bothering children there's certain moves he does that are so goddamn good disgusting i'm disgusting i saw you walk in i said who's this sh is this a pig i didn't know they were letting pigs in you're a dictator old sage what a loser what a loser she was somebody needs to tell her that her [ __ ] stinks when you walked in i could practically smell you your vagina stinks smell it no one here is going to go on a date with you there'll be no problem there i'll get a date there's gonna be so many dates people whoa this guy has so many dates none i don't even need a date no no no money that like no it's impressive there's tinder you go peep poop pop and there's [ __ ] this is pretty exciting i've never been on a date with a white guy before hit the buzzer i mean i'm just wondering what it would be like with something a little smaller let me stop you there lena i don't know who sat in this chair before me but it stinks i told her any interest you're gay hey blame the dairy industry i would never suck a guy's dick but if i did it'd be one of the best sucks he's ever had a few years ago women would have the flat butts not you you've got a very nice one thank you you know i did i pulled very well with the blacks how am i pulling with you i saw you come in i said that's the one the bell of the ball you're the prettiest one i'm gonna be completely honest with you here i'm not that interested you're the ugliest do me a favor could you take your gigantic perfect tits and leave i don't recall saying i would get a date here but if i did say that maybe i will oh my god hello oh my god you like my shirt i gotta die to the special the tackle shop there's a two for one of the tackle at the tackle shop the bait and tackle i can get you on it's two for one wow how are you mr president well i'm great especially since you [Music]
since you exposed all the all the jews that were put in 5g my brain that wanted the meth that girl's great how are you at orals philly it's a funny pretty good to be honest my teeth come out siobhan how would you like to go on a date with donald trump yes finally oh my god i won did i win i got hit can you show clips on here i just did no i don't know but i'm saying i don't know i mean i'm only promoting them i don't think no i'm just wondering like i've really i feel like the last time i was here like we couldn't show well if it was on youtube i would say that wouldn't be smart because like they'd probably have the copyright to that and rightly they would pull it pull it down but we're just promoting them and it would be under the spotify yeah afterwards oh afterwards we'll talk uh-oh we might have to hack that out either way if we had um so so yeah so so that's the same thing though young guys yeah reckless yeah it's like you kind of got to be like and not know how hard it is kind of like childbirth where it's like i don't know now we know how long [ __ ] takes and it's also the internet didn't have the same level of criticism back then it just was like it wouldn't yeah we wouldn't get dissected for social media yeah for like righteousness or like doctrine like twitter came around like 2007-ish right somewhere around then yeah yeah uh so yeah it would just be like depression so anyway depressed back to the president so so and i was slowly building and then and then uh like doing stand-up netflix special i was like it felt good and then around that time i tried ketamine and just didn't like it didn't just didn't work on me i remember we were in the hallway of the store right by the main room and you know like i thought i was gonna go to like a clinical setting and again maybe i'll feel it i mean who knows he goes i am [ __ ] tripping balls that's what you said yeah in a just in a doctor's office
like gone like it was on like the 11th floor of a in westwood it wasn't like a spa and you like it was like here's your clinical consolidation valid he's like a doc it was like a hospital kind of so um when they give it to you do they give you a description of what the effect is going to be like they kind of don't they they just say like this is a good uh depression now having said that it's worked for people i it's worked for a lot of people i know so i can't i've heard good things yeah so i'm i think i'm actually in the minority in that i didn't like ketamine because i was early talking about it on here everyone thought i liked it and i just didn't like it but what what was the experience like so they don't tell you what it's going to do no they say it works on some people but they don't say you're going to have a complete disassociation yeah they say it's like slightly hallucinogenic maybe i don't even know if they told me that much really i i and i don't want to go on the record i may just not remember now are you restrained no i'm just in a i was in a hospital bed and like just laying in a bed regular bed like three quarters sitting up uh craftmatic are you are there rails on the side i don't know i don't remember probably not it wasn't i wasn't i couldn't move once i took it i was and i like in my hallucination was generally speaking i i went i got into like it's a small world kind of cart and i went into like a kind of neon like winnie the pooh rod kind of yeah but and like there were machine elves yeah in my and then i kept seeing like maps of california like grand theft auto style pull out maps and not i didn't really ha nothing much happened i didn't i've had people have stuff with parents or friends or whatever like traumatic experience nothing like that happened for me um when you say machine elves like what do you mean like the stuff you've talked about like this sort of like tear it 30 000 feet twilight zone little like goofy little like did you see but it was like a fractal thing the thing about the
dmt ones it's all fractal like you see them you see like infinite numbers mine was closer to tron i would say but like thinner neon and more like a grid like uh like but like uh graphing paper yeah but like all sort of vague dimensional neon the machine elves thing was terence mckenna's thing that's what he was to say it's a good description i guess i kind of i i just assumed that it was i i've only gotten them on on uh ketamine i never thought of them as machines they seem like they don't oh i didn't i guess i assume machine meant they were in the machine they were just elves they were just like little goblin little [ __ ] that makes sense yeah that actually makes more sense that was like fine then i did okay that makes way more sense transcranial magnetic stimulation that's one where they're sort of tapping it's like uh they put sort of a thing on you and it feels like it's a electric electromagnetic uh it's like a cat scan it's what it kind of feels like and it's just weird like do you mind if i ask you a couple more questions about the ketamine yeah of course how long does it last 40 minutes 40 minutes yeah and so is it almost instantaneous because it's iv they're giving it to you the iv uh yeah eight minutes probably tops so you lay there and within eight minutes you're gone gone and you're gone for 45 minutes yeah wow and i was kind of like at a certain point you can kind of hear people they're all being quiet but you're aware that they're there is there any um hangover or anything afterwards that's mostly what i had my eyes were burnt like were sort of burning irritated for like a month or two ooh yeah it sucked and uh it just kind of felt i kind of felt hungover did you ask them about that yeah and the guy said i've never had someone have that and i was and so you did feel hungover so the juice wasn't worth the squeeze for you at all yeah
i did uh ecstasy once and i loved it but the next day i felt so bad yeah i felt like dog [ __ ] and i was like i'm not doing that again yeah i couldn't read wow i was sitting in a cafe and i was trying to read a magazine i couldn't read yeah i couldn't focus do you think you could have done anything to mitigate it the day before yes if i knew about 5 htp right which is you know serotonin precursor like it there's there's a product that on it actually has called new mood that boosts up your serotonin but you were on five http yeah you're actually probably one of the places where i heard about it the first time i heard about it because benji not benji think of not ben one of the store guys told me i'd done ecstasy and he was like take some of this after and then i read about it it was anti-depressants it does help your body uh you know have serotonin blocks yeah yeah yeah and then it's also like tryptophan converts to 5 htp and 5 htp converts to serotonin i think that's how it works so they have it has both of them in like new mood has both of those things in it so it gives you like a more synergistic effect but a lot of people take those kind of things to come down after actually like you could buy it that you could buy five htp on amazon and all those places yeah you can get it at the any vitamins right now at this point yeah it's interesting those things like nutri i'm super fascinated by nootropics now even mike tyson has a nootropic now mike tyson sent me um a case of his jones soda he has jones soda and uh it's a nootropic soda it's pretty good none of them really have worked for like i tried st john's wort i've tried a bunch of them have you tried alpha brain yours yeah i think i got a little nausea like sometimes five htp would make me nauseous uh no no the the um it doesn't have five hdp in it does uh jones supplement oh i'll take some alpha brain that's your thing right yeah yeah yeah i'll take some this is um what is it does it say what the ingredients are tiger's blood how dare you i think
that's just the flavors here it goes so it's got niacin vitamin b b12 uh pantothenic acid and then l-theanine this is this is the stuff the wasana proprietary blend so this what they don't tell you what the proportions are they just tell you what the milligrams are so this proprietary glen for proprietary blend 515 milligrams it's l-theanine and acetyl tyrosine lion's main extract fruiting bodies and mycelium and caffeine so so it has some lion's mane mushrooms which is supposed to be good for neurogenesis and then it has stop the theanine which is great for memory and i don't know i've heard of tyrosine before too and acetyl tyrosine what does that do i know what that does i can't remember but preservative or something i don't know is it but either way it's a soda that can boost your memory which is great you know and there's uh yeah neuralgia caffeine helps you know what's funny is caffeine does most of the heavy lifting on those things caffeine does for sure if caff none of them no one has these things without caffeine because it's like caffeine's the one you feel i bet it kicks in and synergistically works with it too because i know alpha brain works really well with uh caffeine and that gum that neural gum if you tried that [ __ ] that's really good okay um that stuff has uh some caffeine in it too i think it has 40 milligrams per um tablet mental performance alertness yeah okay so l-tyrosine is given as a supplement to increase l-tyrosine levels in people with pku i don't know what that is l-tyrosine has been using alternative medicine as a possible effective aid in improving mental performance alertness a lot of these categories that went the more you learn the less you're like ah that might not be effective because it's like it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier [ __ ] like that where you just go i don't [ __ ] know it might just be a superstition or how maybe some of it gets through and so like i know that's a some of the criticism of um other things
like ginkgo biloba people don't think that that works but the thing about um certain nootropics is they have done studies like boston center for memory did some studies that we we actually funded for alpha brain and they showed improvement in um performance in terms of your ability to form sentences people were quicker to form sentences they had a better verbal memory and they also had better reaction time and there's also a thing about the alpha state like alpha brain states i guess i don't know how they measure that though like is that measured through activity i'm not sure uh yeah it's probably some reading or something so increasing peak alpha flow state whatever the [ __ ] that sounds like horseshit yeah i i know it's not but i mean i hear that that turns out yeah if someone with wooden beads tells me about pink you know pink alpha flow stuff but apparently it's measurable and so they did find improvements and i i feel an improvement in terms of memory when i take these things it really does work because like podcasts 80 of it is like recalling things associations a lot of memories yeah you know so you have to have a good memory well that's what i'm always impressed me about you is the the amount of weed you smoke and it doesn't you have a very good recall yeah the weed doesn't the weed [ __ ] with it sometimes though like uh weirdly like things i do know but i'd forget someone's name but i think that's a hard drive space issue i really do believe that well it's hard to know the older you get where you go is my brain worse or did it just make a decision about relevance did i just go i don't you don't i don't care about this so i'm just gonna get rid of it i don't think that's the case because um with most things that i'm excited about my recall is excellent i think the real issue is i don't have enough hard drive space because i think at a certain point in time you've taken in so much information that you can't keep it in the recent files so even though the people can only you should only know 50 people yeah yeah and i wonder what the amount
of like facts yeah we actually looked up dunbar's younger it's all it's actually more complicated than we thought it's not as simple as like uh you can only know 250 people it's like there's there's levels of it's associations right yeah which makes more sense to me yeah because i definitely know more than 250 people or 150 people i know a lot of [ __ ] people but i can remember them when i'm around them sometimes yeah if you just remember like yeah you're familiar and you don't even know what and then sometimes like i'll have a conversation with someone it's like you go back in time like hey what's up how are you doing yeah the [ __ ] going on like oh my god i haven't seen you forever and then bam you know but that's uh just a normal function of being a person you're only supposed to have so much [ __ ] information in your head that's why like a lot of guys are like super geniuses are often like like weird socially like clueless i would argue almost all of them i've been doing a joke where it's like you're it's like god's making a video game character and it's like you put you know put a bunch it's like bill cosby he was like let's put it all in comedy you know what about morality he's like he'll figure it out and i'm like wait what that's like yeah like i don't know i'll figure it out we'll be fine like all these kids like it's anything if you have a if you if a girl has a big tits she has small butt like you know what i mean like there's just natural well not anymore but like natural balances of like the there's natural balance like so if you're incredibly gifted in one area you're going to be deficient in another area a lot of times it's hidden but if it's social it's you can't hide it yeah a lot of times it's just a function of the amount of energy that it takes to get like really good at something or really into something like if you're someone who's just only fixated on your looks the amount of time that must be involved in just looking good yep jesus christ how do you have time for the [ __ ]
or a lot of these people are just a little autistic oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah and sometimes those people get really [ __ ] good at things yeah really good at things yeah i mean they can focus yep you get a really intelligent autistic kid like interested in something like whether it's coding or jujitsu dinosaur whatever whatever the [ __ ] it is isn't that weird it's like whatever is missing in terms of like a connection with people socially sometimes not always because sometimes they're just you know they're really troubled but sometimes it allows them to get so unbelievably good at this thing that they do like whatever it is it's almost like there's a guy named shane van boning and he's one of the best blue pool players in the world in fact he just won the world championships and he's been one of the best for decades he's got hearing aids when he plays he shuts him off shuts them off and he doesn't see he doesn't hear [ __ ] he just concentrates on the balls moving around the table and that's all he does is play pool this [ __ ] plays pool eight hours a day constantly he's so good he's so good and when you watch him play just shuts those hearing aids off and just gets into it and he has like another layer of detachment from the game from from the the world rather while he's playing the game that other people don't have other people have to ignore the sounds they hear they have to ignore their own footsteps he doesn't hear [ __ ] yeah i've been doing a joke about that too where it's like every great athlete is crazy oh yeah like it was like did it was like that where they talk about like we need our athletes have good mental health did you watch the michael jordan documentary and then i have a bunch of bits about that it's like these people are [ __ ] nut michael phelps you know he won 23 gold medals you know what the second most of all time is nine so like yeah he's gonna get a dui every once in a while like that's just the [ __ ] that's just the price we pay who
is the person who ratted him out for smoking out i mean what a whatever what about a podcast that was early internet early internet it's like oh first rat yeah the first rats because he got in real trouble for that yeah isn't that hilarious i guess and now it's like like if you want to talk about a guy who's unquestionably healthy uh-huh look at his choice uh-huh he chooses to smoke out of a bong uh-huh maybe he's on something yeah yeah exactly i mean he's a [ __ ] health expert he's a peak performance expert who the [ __ ] are you more worried about his health than he is i'm guessing he's a little more invested in in his lungs than you are yeah anyhow maybe he's right about the benefits of it you [ __ ] well it was that was just a snitch situation i think it was just at a party and one of the smoker giant it wasn't do you think that guy uses that i'm the guy who got it michael phelps in trouble i also video tape a lot of concerts if you want to watch him on my phone i got five different fireworks on my phone so i don't know if you guys got time later um so uh so yeah so so so uh ketamine it just was like not forming so it just tripped you out but it didn't make your debut didn't have any yeah didn't debate the depression at all and the magnetic thing did yes transparent magnetic stimulation had to do with 45 times wow and then when you go to do it uh another office in west l.a jesus third floor second floor good west of l.a how long before you felt it i felt it's about three sessions in really um so the first one you're like yeah maybe the second one and then third one what do you think oh that's similar like i know i don't want to dance but i i'm just like lighter lighter do you do any cardio yeah do you what do you do uh run jump run yeah does that make you feel better no because i've never gotten run aside i don't even i'm like what even how who how could i get runners really yeah um yeah i got a peloton done
damn yeah that's crazy yeah like i exhausted it yeah yeah i mean i think i exhausted it um you exhausted the possibility i felt like i did yeah in terms of like treatments i did a ton of different medications and i did a ton of different like alternative things and tms worked and then i went in uh 20 right before covert i was in china i was doing a show and i ended up getting like a supercharged version of tms they could do 40 sessions in a week basically and uh because there's no there's less regulation jesus so the did they cook your brain it's i'll show you video it's pretty [ __ ] it's like pretty graphic it didn't hurt but it looks like it hurts it didn't it was a little jamie yeah yeah post it up here yeah um the [ __ ] dude yeah uh so you you feel it yeah you uh you feel the you definitely feel the uh the magnet [ __ ] with your brain jimmy are you on um so is it are you better now well i'm i'm gonna get to that ooh the build-up is killing me um i love it air drop let's do jamie's macbook pro who incoming jamie what a great world we live in it's pretty cool send a video through the sky pretty cool that is pretty [ __ ] um okay yeah it's the funniest [ __ ] it just makes it's the dumbest i can't believe what it's doing to my face whoa dude like that wasn't happening in in l.a like that one's more severe right is it better ah i think it was i think it was just better it's like a stronger it's a it's a it seemed like what i got in l.a times three or four did you get a home unit i don't know i don't i mean it's pretty
well i mean it's also covered by insurance which is pretty cool but you have to go somewhere right yeah wouldn't it be better if you're just like watching ozark with a helmet on well that's what you end up doing anyway rewind it um so i'm so then covet starts somebody sends me an article from the new york times about ayahuasca and i'm like and he's like we got to do this i'm like all right i get a number get a private i had to go off antidepressants this is october 2020. so i go i wean myself off i'm taking zoloft all the time and i'm like why am i taking some i'm like i don't need it frank because the problem was without zoloft i wasn't depressed but i was getting panic attacks on stage which is like this i can't have this so i just takes all off like and i wouldn't get panic attacks uh only on stage yeah i and one time i got one like in a meeting it was [ __ ] weird or i'm like i i know this person it was odd i would just get them for seemingly no reason and um and so go off antidepressants do ayahuasca with like uh with one uh shaman type guy at my buddy's house and it's like very pleasant it was like we did one cup it was me bianca from the store uh my friend bijan saramello like uh and it was like nice right um it kind of felt like i like cried about groups of people groups of people i don't know just like gatherings of people made me cry huh like i was crying so hard like like where like my your nostrils are closed like is it unusual that you experience the kind of sadness that makes you crazy it wasn't even sadness it was like kind of tears of like joy reverie not joy and not like tenderness we'll say like tenderness about like like a from a place of love okay more than a place of sadness or it was like just connected yeah yeah i feel connected to like the
earth i was getting like also seeing like wide shots of forests just like okay cool so we and then you know lasts about three and a half hours then we all hang out talk whatever and then i find a better that guy was kind of a lightweight and then i find a better circle to do it in via uh someone that had been on a commercial she was like come to the circle so i first night at the circle it's like by six flags in l.a it's not like it's not peru um and uh it's i couldn't get the amount right and i was just kind of nauseous and didn't really feel much and i did ayahuasca did two or three cups of ayahuasca i tried this thing called hoppe which is they blows ash sacred tobacco ash up your nostrils and it's like you have [ __ ] rocks in your head i've never felt a thing like this and apparently it like multiplies the ayahuasca for like eight to ten minutes it's like a [ __ ] mushroom and in super mario brothers where like just it's you're like stimulated and people you can do a thing where you do an intention and a lot of times you'll vomit up you'll purge up a thing like a notion i have a yeah i got a lot of a lot of stories so the ash it's spelled r-a-p-e with an uh with an um lot over the e so it's built rape but it's with an umlaut over the e and people it's a in a thing called a tepe and uh so that's just smoke but there you go that's one the first one that now that's smoke if you do uh get rid of ayahuasca and smoke just do [Music] put a um lot over the uh e in yeah the problem is rape crisis it just goes to the if you put it if you put a thing over the e how do you do that on a regular keyboard you hit option and then hit
hit e and i'm just holding them up can you google yeah there we go let's see okay okay there he goes there oh wow that's wild that looks painful it's wild look at the face yeah i tried that and so the ash goes up your nose yeah and and you're like like it i didn't i was just like yo this [ __ ] people purge immediately but you a lot of times you can purge up like an ocean you can purge up an intention you can purge up i mean a buddy of mine purged up his mother's hatred of him oh jesus like like a thing i'm a like i'm basically like a goof i'm like a new age goofball is what i'm trying to tell you uh so that's the first night with the it's my second career night thir first night at the new circle second night i get the amount correct and i was an atheist and i opened my eyes at one point in the circle and i was like oh i'm in the presence of god right now i don't i can't explain it it's a feeling i am in the presence of what i can only describe as god and i was like this is the first spiritual experience i've ever had in my entire life 12 years of catholic school altar boy church mass [ __ ] nothing and then this was like oh this is what church is supposed to be like this connection to us the center beam or the center force and uh like a real profound like okay i'm no longer an atheist i now believe in a a uh god or creation force and obviously the question would be someone would ask you if they were trying to diminish this they would say but you are on drugs yeah you understand that you're on drugs and this is not a real experience and this is all highlighted by the hallucination that's happening the neurotransmitters and the way it's
affecting your brain yeah i don't i here's the thing i can't counter that do you know what i mean like i'm not it's not one of these things where like it's true for me right well here's the question here's what i always say is i have this very same conversation with dennis mckenna and we both agreed on this that who cares if it's real it's the same experience like if if you took a pill and that pill or you took ayahuasca and that ayahuasca makes you reach that state or if you reach that state from saying an incantation and then you walk through holotropic breathing yeah whatever it is yeah how do we know that that's not real like imagine if god was real and you could get in front of god but the only way to do it is to eat mushrooms he'd be like wait what i would argue that's true it might be i mean like in my experience but it might be it's the only way now the the good thing is it's in me now because it then i was no longer in ayahuasca and i was like that was as real a thing as ever happened it's in you meaning it's changed you yeah so the depression's gone well that i'll get to that okay so no no my belief in god yes a belief in a central creation force right and by the way i know how this sounds it's very mockable it's very reducible and like this podcast is filled with mockable reductions sure sure sure um laughing all the way to the bank um and uh mocking getting mocked all the way uh so so the fourth time i do it the that circle that i was doing and they weren't like covered they were like loose with covet and it's like 20 people in a room and this is in like before the vaccine it's just like early so i'm like ah a guy got covered right after the ceremony i'm like could you test or anything like we don't really just whatever um so i went back to the first guy the the original guy and did a private with ian edwards and my friend catherine and uh worked for ian
he had a great time not great time but like a profound spiritual time my friend catherine was sort of like very uneasy and then and i it wasn't working for me and i kept saying yeah it just wasn't working i was like maybe i'll take more because like it felt like i had to work out the amount at the other place so this place was like maybe i'll take more and i probably ended up drinking like an ounce and i don't i've come to drink around a quarter of an ounce but so this was like an ounce and it wasn't working wasn't working wasn't working hit me like a [ __ ] freight train where like i immediately i purged and um i i uh went into like i would have a thought like what and my brain and in my brain it sounded like i'd go what it would go i i i i i i and i was like oh i'm in pink floyd land like i'm law i'm gone i'm gonna be a drug casualty uh i i i then i was in outer space uh alone and the universe was dying you're alone we're killing saturn children uh the milky way like that was the message i was getting like it's all dying and you're alone and i breathed i mean it's the most terrifying thing i've ever experienced until i'll get to the thing that topped it uh i was breathing just in case i was literally like breathing ian i was reading like this and i was for like he said about two and a half hours i have no recollection of any of it other than i'm in outer space like it it's i was when i came to i was
i slept with the lights on for a few days it was so terrifying to my absolute core um and i but i realized about three or four days after that from not being on antidepressants the i'd say the floorboards of my mood were a little mushy like the like i could get low lower than i could without antidepressants i'm sorry with antidepressants it would be like more sort of secure and not on antidepressants it was a little loose and gushy and i realized about four days after that terrifying outer space experience that it was completely secure and it was like polished granite like you fixed your brain yeah like i'm never gonna and i literally was like i'm never gonna need antidepressants again positive and you haven't had them since no really yeah that was like that was december 2020. that's incredible yeah and here we are it's the end of may yeah so this is a year and a half 2022. so uh incredible yeah i had a little panic on stage but i figured that out so so that was so so now so i've done i have four times at this point had that experience and i was like i really like aya in that it's it's it's a connection to spirituality you know what i mean like you know in in i don't have any besides that you know and so i went to the other place the good circle and i had a few rough ceremonies um like one of them in the room i heard a uh tiger like
like it's in the room there is a tiger in the room acoustically it was like there was a tiger groom and then i hallucinated a tiger came around an altar and i went like like real [ __ ] fear and i had a couple tough journeys like that where it was one another one that was funnier is i thought i mean dude in this circle i've seen people get possessed they had to tie a guy up like it's it's impossible but i've seen it it's one of these things where i'm like ah this shit's wild um that one where the guy was possessed they'd pour salt in his mouth like real wild [ __ ] um i'm like oh this is the rapture this is the rapture when the rapture this is the end like we're and so i had that like rapture thing again and they go let's go around the room just check in with everybody neil and i go not good like two couple words to describe you feeling go not good and then they go to the next guy and he goes i'm balancing and i'm like balancing dawg this is it like it's over and then when i heard balancing and i and then as they went on i was like oh this is not the rapture i was like neil this is your problem and your problem alone do you think that your state of mind in going into the ceremony has an effect on it or is it just your consciousness interacting with these chemicals yeah you know what's funny because i've thought about that like am i is it like a fevered imagination and it's and my all i would say is i'm not aware i don't think about the rapture much right but some people take the same amount as you and they have these magical like madre experiences yeah dancing with the mother well i'll get to that so so maybe six coffee it's it's actually very good it's very very tasty um good for your black rifle um
so five six seven eight are rough and then nine in this in the circle where i do it he does a thing called he opens the room to spirits again i'm glad everyone knew me before this [Laughter] because i'm like what yeah okay so he opens the room to spirits i start shaking like this for an hour two hours three hours shaking like this and like the funny thing is like i'll get an itch on my nose and i'll be like and then it just resumes like so i'm not doing it and it's just whatever it's happening and i use and i thought it was traumatic release there's a thing called dramatic release exercises where you your body will shake out trauma it's like this guy peter levine wrote a book called the body keeps the score which is like the body stores trauma and then if you do traumatic release it'll like shake it out i had it in a therapy session for emdr i would shake i don't [ __ ] know and then buddy which i was shaking for four hours okay so here's where it gets bananas woman walks past me just like doing a little sexy little dance because the music's excellent and great and i'm like i literally have the thought like one of these days i'm going to dance like lucia and i'm shaking i go one of these days i'm going to dance like lucille my body starts dancing joe and i'm not doing it really i swear to you i s i'm not doing it some angels in the outfield [ __ ] like it's [ __ ] nuts it's nuts and it happened that ceremony it and
then it started happening pretty regularly i mean it's not big it's like arm motions arm positions that i'm not controlling that my body just goes into uh they call it mediumship in this circle like like i'm i and here's the crazy part i don't feel crazy mediumship meaning that a spirit takes over your body ostensibly yes here's the thing man the only reason why it seems crazy is because more people don't do psychedelics when you tell these stories to someone who does psychedelics they go um yeah i've been near that i'm not weirded out by no i know i'm not confused but if i didn't know if you didn't also if you didn't know me yeah and know how cynical i am yeah yes when you were straight-laced yeah um it's a weird one right it's like it's it's so easy to dismiss because it sounds so preposterous the problem is enough people are going to dismiss it just because of that which is really unfortunate yeah and also understandable it is understandable i literally like where people like do you believe in i'm like i believe in anything now yeah if you've had a real breakthrough psychedelic experience it's so beyond anything that you could use your words to describe that the only way to really get it into your head is to have one and it's not for everybody it's not for everybody it's somebody who thinks where i thought this is for everybody and then it's like it's such a big yeah it's a big swing i just think the same way i used to think everybody should do it and now i'm like um i had a really funny thing happen with my mom where i taught one of the one of the ceremonies i had the thought like i have my mom's software and my dad's hardware oh wow and uh and and i talked to my mom a few days later i was like hey mom i i did this thing called ayahuasca and i gotta say it made me love you more and she texted me a few days later could the whole family do it which is like a hack for [ __ ] little
kid if you get caught with weed just tell them it made you love them more do you need uh multiple uh sessions to dial it in though like if you know well what's crazy uh oh yeah i don't think i wouldn't expect the best if a family did it i've heard stories of families doing it and some people you know it's like it's it's a i i hate to say it's a different dimension but it's a different [ __ ] dimension it's a different dimension it's a different dimension i mean it doesn't sound like that should be a real thing that's accessible to the average person but if you do the right stuff and you you know in the right setting the the thing one of the things was wildest to me was doing it with the ecoros like doing dmt with the ikaros and you watch them dance to the music and you're like is this where did you do damn you did it with the tribal people no no eco roses the song music yeah yeah so we we had recordings oh yeah yeah no they play recordings in my circle one of the songs they play during hop ay is the best song i've ever heard really like that's the best song i've ever heard with my ears on earth while you enter on that stuff like it syncs up but i can sing it now i mean i i'm not going to because it's like too too sacred to me but it's like they make noises you've never heard where i'm like what the [ __ ] yeah um the ikaros seem to be like synced up for dmt like the or either that or dmt syncs up to it but something happens i think that they're i think it's inspire i mean the the do you ever hear the story of how they came to make ayahuasca well they don't really know well the the legend is that the plants spoke to them the mushrooms i thought the legend was like that the mushrooms that spoke to them i mean i'm sure there's five different versions of it but yeah like probably right like for them to put the certain chicruna plant yeah and the cappy plant and boil them for the right amount of time and it's like do you know the history of that area this is where it gets really interesting the history
of that area probably wasn't all just rural tribes like what they think now was that there was a vast civilization in the amazon and in fact the amazon itself was probably at least partially the result of human agriculture gone amuck and that's interesting yeah there's all these trees like we pulled this up the other day there's these trees like the i think it's the ice cream bean tree and a couple other trees that are just overwhelm the canopy they're like they're just these crazy plants that were planted there they even developed a certain type of soil they think what happened and this is all based on that lost city of z it's also the same sort of um same sort of subject they think that the original explorers who went there and had these incredible encounters with people they saw these magnificent cities and they're filled with gold and everything was like incredibly advanced all that [ __ ] was gone within a hundred years because everybody was dead from smallpox right so those europeans introduced diseases just like they did to the native americans just like they did to the mayans just like they did anybody they encountered and they did it to them and just completely wiped them out and now they're using something called lidar where they fly over the jungle right and they're finding these grids they're finding what used to be like the patterns of cities and irrigation and [ __ ] yeah it's [ __ ] wild archeologists find vast network of amazon villages laid out like the cosmos so this is the thing if they were super advanced back then and they all got killed off by smallpox and the only people that survived like the people that lived in the hills you know the people that were completely detached didn't get smallpox right and so what you have left is the amish right but maybe those people who made those incredible cities figured out ayahuasca does that make sense yeah i don't that's the the they're advanced yes and and you know instead of like the the what's what happened after those ceremonies is like i it happens i when i do mushrooms i shake like like you're dancing shake
i'm usually sitting but i might have a spirit in you maybe you have like an extra spirit that's in you right now that's me here's a crazy i i'll buy it what do you got i'll buy it i literally nothing is too far for me now where i'm like dude it happens on stage sometimes really where i'll hold my arm in a certain way and it'll get it's happening right now actually it's going to be your thing like you know like it takes a shirt off yeah i'm gonna get i'm gonna do my my dancing my spirit did my [ __ ] arm dancing um just like i don't i don't [ __ ] know and so so okay so then i do that probably 13 14 times wow over how many years year and a half and then quite a lot thank you you mean you're burning the oil right you're doing it every couple months that's pretty heavy yeah i but it's like i don't know uh do i seem depleted in any way no no no no no i don't know i mean heavy in terms of a lot of experience it meant like i mean most of the time it was just i would have the shake and i just felt uh commune with uh communion with the spirit spirituality basically you know there's um people out of the university of uh jerusalem i believe that's where it is where these scholars now believe that the whole idea of moses talking to the burning bush that the burning bush represented god that that burning bush is probably the acacia tree which is rich in dmt they think there is probably a translation issue and that's this was most likely like it makes sense right say if you smoke dmt and you do have an encounter with god the way you had right you have this which is from dmt imagine if they figured out how to do that back then what if it was just burning the bush and you could burn it into a confined area and you'd get enough dmt and you that you would see god yeah i mean again i don't or they can make in ayahuasca or they figured out you know what what's an mao inhibitor and yeah
well that's the other thing like the the amount of things that need to line up for it to for humans to be able to digest it it's like you got to drink vine and you you know when western scientists first started uh working with ayahuasca and isolating it they they tried to call harmine telepathy they thought it was funny yeah because they they all had these um like very similar experiences where they're syncing up together so they wanted to call it telepathy but they had already named it uh harmony the rules of scientific nomenclature i guess so that's what they were gonna call it they were gonna say like that imagine if they did that and we realized and they started studying back then and you know just imagine what a difference the world is if it's not harmine but telepathy there's a thing called telepathy and you take it what everybody would go what is it called yeah why is it called that well i should yeah give me some if they made ayahuasca legal in this country and developed research centers and they made psilocybin legal and i believe that'll happen i mean i think psilocybin you know that's someone who's been pretty into it for a couple years i mean i you can have some really really big reactions in in ways that uh it's it i don't i don't i haven't been harmed but i'm saying like it's like a clinical situa it's this is [ __ ] big [ __ ] it's big [ __ ] it's like big [ __ ] beyond trauma beyond uh it's the origins it is profound like perf it's like the profound doesn't cut it yeah um the words don't exist yeah so so to to bring corporations doctors all that stuff it's like i think there has to be a spiritual element to it or else it's i think it can be very helpful but it's it goes to the other point we're saying which is like as might not be for everybody it might not be for everybody but it also might be one of those things that just has to get out there it just
has to get loose and then we figure out how to contain it meaning like what's the proper way to administer it and and just let it get through people so enough intelligent people can examine it and have similar experiences so they can talk about it instead of it comes a lot of the legislation and a lot of the demonization of psychedelic drugs come from people who don't do them it's that's the that's the weird part about it is people have these uh ideas that people are trying to escape reality and that you're being weak and like i think it's that's why it's important i think to talk about it because as stupid as it sounds for you when you're explaining it to me it sounds totally believable and i can tell that something happened because you do you seem lighter it's like everyone's always yeah everyone every single person i met has said i seem lighter so here's okay so i did it a dozen or so and uh then i'm in new york doing the show unacceptable go to neil brennan.com seat in your town and uh someone says hey i gotta i'm someone's here doing five meow dmt if you want to do it um [Music] uh it's so i can get you in tomorrow okay so i have a day off i go i do it i think i did it eight o'clock on a monday one hit and i i had i always dmt always sounded too severe to me the way you described it blast off yeah the way michael pollan described it he was like he couldn't find much he it was too powerful but i was like and i always walked around and then i didn't have any i was like i haven't done aya in a few months and man you know whenever it's a free night whatever so i go and i do it and this is where i'm like this shouldn't this isn't for everybody uh i had the michael i i had to go back and
watch your podcast with him because i went to the same place he went to which is before the big bang is where i went whiteout i'm uh i don't know what i am i don't know what breathing is i don't know what direction is i have zero orientation whatsoever i don't know i don't know i i couldn't do i like felt like i developed the first synapse like no i'm in a meet i'm nothing and uh i mean really scary obvious i mean it's one of these things where i'm there but i'm not there do you know what i mean it's like what is what am i that's thinking that i'm nothing clearly i'm saying like that you get into like sort of sam harris world of like yeah you know um and in that ceremony so you start from the big bang and then it felt like slowly my uh character personality traits soul come back into me and it was almost like i could pick what i i literally said at one point like no i'm not doing that anymore like uh it was like a negative or a gossipy thought or a petty thought came in i was like no no we're not doing that anymore i mean obviously i do but i'm saying like it felt like oh i'm getting to pick that was just kind of how i explained it to myself and i probably inhaled at eight and i was back walking home at nine and uh and but i had a big that that was a big that was a big one like that big bang thing i describe it as control alt delete for your brain and when your brain reboots
it's got an empty desktop but it has one folder and in that folder it says my old [ __ ] and you get to go through that folder and decide if you want to just be comfortable and you just want to fall back on the old patterns they're right there for you go and go back into your old [ __ ] yeah or recognize that you genuinely have seen something that has the possibility and the capability to reset your brain and reset your life and reset who you are and the way you think about things i i so i had that it's it's fast in a way you know what i mean like it's like it's but it's like oh [ __ ] uh and then you're slowly you're thinking you're like okay yeah okay so i'll leave and um so here's what's crazy like that was monday saturday night ryan hamilton great comedian came to my show and i'm walking home with him and and he's he grew up mormon and i'm talking i'm like oh yeah i've been we've talked about religion before and i'm like yeah i think i'm like not and i explained to him dmt and this is saturday night and i weird thing like in bed that and i'm kind of explaining the dmt experience to him like where i'm like yeah i was kind of near god and i was yeah i was like i the way i experienced it was like i feel like i was a hundred feet away from the central creation force of the universe and like you could feel the warmth it here's the crazy part it wasn't warm there was no human interface it was just a it like presented as like a wall or something but it was like uh it i it wasn't benevolent it wasn't it wasn't spiteful it wasn't it was just like i created you and saturn you know and by the way i say i but it's like i to me it does an identity it's not a man woman it's just a source you think it's a thing that it's a real thing
that that creates everything and maybe that does make sense if you think about the big bang if you think about all of the incredible things that they've discovered about the cosmos itself that if there's a thing that's actually creating that like a force that's creating things that's that was what i experienced and and and but so that was saturday night sunday day i wake up and i'm like i'm starting to basically i basically start having a reactivation but like a flashback or whatever so i go get coffee with a woman and i'm basically like split between reality and this other thing oh jesus and it's like oh this is bad oh no this is bad this is how many days after uh five days six days by the way like 70 of people have a reactivation when they smoke it apparently because i looked it up i've had it um well haven't dreams yeah i've had dreams where um i thought that i was uh tripping and then i did it yes not but not five meow only the other one only nn yeah i mean again so i don't know if i took too big i only had one hit it's so strong you know dmt like itself nn dimethyl drip to means very potent super potent but five meow is more potent it's the most potent that's what's weird you just go to white it just whites out yeah and it's almost like you see like a pixelation or you see like living compounds of reality like you see thing it's you're in the middle of it but you're one of it it like breaks down whatever the [ __ ] it means to be like an atom it breaks that was the experience i'm like i'm like an amoeba yeah i'm like not uh amoeba is a single cell organism that's pretty complex you're not even that you're like the energy of an amoeba yeah and you also the energy of a tree you're the energy of this the sky yeah i'll accept that yeah i mean so so now i'm on lafayette flying back and forth between and i'm like and the that sunday and monday i i had the thought not only is this the worst day of my life this is the worst day of
a life this is the worst day of anyone's life because i couldn't you were driving no i'm just walking to new york so i'm like and then plus i have this divergent vision oh that's right which is at one point i'm like i don't understand reality and i'm seeing two images i was literally like this couldn't be [ __ ] more hilarious connected no no way i don't no not even a little um and because this is too we early into that this is like this is six seven months ago now so so uh so now i don't at one point i literally have a thought like i might be in god's imagination i mean i was [ __ ] gone like i wouldn't wish i had the thought i wouldn't wish this on hitler it was so nuts where i was and and i literally i thought i'm probably gonna have to kill myself and not suicidally from like i can't take this but i also knew it was just going to be more of it oh jesus because especially this is five days after you've had it yeah so it's gone through your system and something might have broken or some yeah so you're thinking that that maybe something if you're experiencing it again well that a lot of people have reactivations so it's like i've read seventy percent of people that smoke five meow get seventy two percent was the number i read and if you do it on the [ __ ] highway i here's the crazy part i i did a show wednesday no one knows i mean no no i mean it was a problem for me but the audience didn't know so by wednesday editorial i was so yeah i was so [ __ ] like it wasn't it was like right here is the thing like i was never like completely gone it was just like something was wrong at some point it's
gonna pop out this can [ __ ] overwhelm you and even on monday sunday monday it didn't overwhelm me but like it was it was [ __ ] banana it was dude it was like oh this should you come back like human beings shouldn't experience this i literally had the thought like oh i went past i was i said i i was aiming for god and i missed my stop uh so i knew i knew intuitively do not meditate really i just knew into like you and then someone i read a thing about grounding after you have a uh psychedelic experience and it was like yeah don't meditate that was like number one or two and i was like yep right way ahead i knew because the meditation human beings are here meditation's here i was here okay so i knew like if i like if i untether myself anymore who [ __ ] knows where i'm gonna go wow you might not be able to come back yeah so but i also was getting better every day how many days uh well the funny thing was that was november 5th and i was getting better every day and then i went to the dentist december 21st or something and i did the laughing gas did it bring it back oh my god and uh i was like [ __ ] i gotta start over oh my god for how long uh that was december 21st i would say the here's what's crazy it was so wild that i like you know the screensaver on apple tv yes couldn't look at it oh my god like mountains and there were all the fish i was like i can't look at this i it was [ __ ] i didn't i was literally like i don't it wasn't i've looked it up it wasn't derealization because i didn't think things were fake and it wasn't depersonalization i was myself i don't know what it was well it's probably your brain recognized that it had this giant burst of dmt while it was conscious and then it tried to reintroduce it
your brain probably remembered the experience and said let's try it again right i mean it's the only thing that makes sense it's not like you did it again and noah's to you but even the but what was the experience like what was the state i was probably opened up a chemical gateway you know that's the thing that people think when they think of dmt or ayahuasca or 5meo or even psilocybin of being real they think that it might be like a way that you [Music] use chemicals to open up a doorway in your mind and that we think of it as not being real because it's not something that you can quantify like it's 50 calibers or it's you know 15 inches or 10 pounds it's like you can't weigh it or measure it but it's something that happens to everyone that does it so at what point in time do you say it's real and what is it if everybody has this profound experience that seems like they're in the presence of something infinitely loving and infinitely powerful and strange in its complexity and sees right through you knows everything about you yeah i mean like what is that but it's the the entire uh like what what is any of this and it opens this thing in your brain and once it's open that's what mckenna always said that that door is always kind of open once it gets open and that's where i am now like so i got better every day i remember i went somewhere in march with a woman and she was like let's watch the sunset and i was like yeah i can't do this i can't do something i literally could it's something about the we're all trying to get to a 35 000 foot view and i went to 35 trillion feet and i was like i don't even need i need to not yeah get lofty reset i need to be like grounded grounded and um yeah just grounded and like human and and but to your point i'm lighter by the way you know how the the the the uh when i did the i the bad aya trip and it was secure
now it's more secure and higher really i can [ __ ] feel it in my brain i can feel it it's [ __ ] like the thing you said about the odd delete reset thing yeah million percent i'm i have a different my values are different and and i don't mean my values are different like i still everything's the same it's all the same software the interesting thing is like i don't get hijacked by feelings i don't get like so overwhelmed by anger that i can't think straight i don't i just i'm like and it's not because i'm more righteous it's because my brain and body are different it like it it i can't do the [ __ ] i was doing before and it's all better that's amazing it's all it's all better it's all like it's not like i can't i can still write great jokes like all that's the same thoughtful associations recall the same or better but i don't the my uh i call it my my like the there's the autonomic nervous system of like breathing and heartbeat and all that stuff [ __ ] your body does without you thinking about it my autonomic value system's a little different and my connection my ability to connect to people like i've fallen in love a couple times way easier [Music] and it's and to you're the i've been using the analogy of juice worth the squeeze the juice is excellent but joe that squeeze yeah it's dangerous it's like that's one of the things where i'm like man what a [ __ ] ordeal yeah i don't know four months probably three or four months of like not again you wouldn't know it no one knew right but i couldn't talk about it for a month
and a half or two months like i was literally like i can't talk about it but i'm not myself but i'm i can't explain exactly my friend said i just seemed preoccupied yeah i went through one after a really heavy dmt trip for a couple weeks where i was worried about accidents and um it wasn't worried about accidents in a rational sense that happened after my eye i was worried about it in a sense that i felt like my ego was trying to regain control and that one of the best ways to do that was to put me in fear so that it would take care of me like be careful watch what you're doing like what if one of those cars comes over the over the top of the [ __ ] lane and smashes right into your windshield like i started thinking like that like what the [ __ ] am i thinking like this for yeah and it was all just my brain trying to play tricks on me to get my ego activated because my ego felt like it just got blow torched you know it was just the reality of the experience was so bizarre so bizarre to the point where when i came back from it i didn't believe in regular reality anymore the fact that i had known something that potent was just three hits away and then i had this i did three i did it three times in the same setting i did it we had every we went around a circle and when i did the third time i was like [ __ ] the third time was i went so far i was seeing all this egyptian [ __ ] that was what was really wild i was seeing like the it would look like pharaoh's heads and all of this like um like the different stripes and gold and blue and it was all these imp and it's [ __ ] it's impossible and [ __ ] that you probably have never seen or thought about never that's what's crazy it's like oh i this is not a brain association thing i've never thought of this you can't see that i don't think you can see that because it doesn't have lines in the sense of it doesn't have a border like it's not like this like i'm looking at this coffee pot i see where the edge is it has an edge to it those things didn't have they
don't have borders they have an edge right but the they go right into the other thing and then they change what they are and they're never the same thing yeah they're always in a constant state of motion and it seems to have consciousness like whatever it is it it absolutely reflects what you're thinking and then if you can let it go imparts on you thoughts that you're incapable of and hits you with these thoughts and you have to address it and the best way to do it is just let go like if you try to wrestle with it i've seen people wrestle with it it's crazy they start screaming they roll around the floor yeah doug stanhope i almost thought we lost him i got doug high you did i'm kidding i mean i really almost thought we lost him he was going he was like yeah foam was coming out of his mouth like no [ __ ] i was like [ __ ] do people die from this yeah but no i mean that was the the it was it was it was crazy i mean you wouldn't want to recommend that though right that's what i mean it's like i it's one of the things like i can take it right [ __ ] barely yeah like an already weird disposition disconnected trauma abuse all this [ __ ] and then it's like i can take it i took it but i took it but bear but like 12th round i don't know and and i'm and i'm uh 20 things where i'm i'm i guess i'm happy i did it i'm better that's the thing is i'm better and it was always this thing then right like i would say you guys because it was so hard dude [Music] it was so hard maybe that's what you have to do i well that's what and it's like i'm willing to i can bear it i can bear pretty much anything but i'm saying like it's rough it was i'm telling you it was rough and i'm and i'm a guy with like a pretty tough jaw when it comes to like no you do self you know i'm glad you expect you expressed that i'm glad you uh you told that story i'm glad you said it the way you said it because it was very honest
even though easy to ridicule yeah and also it's like also a little embarrassing in a way like well you're a comic you know that if you hadn't done that you would mercilessly mock someone to talk like that yeah but i you know what's funny is whenever i people tell people the story everyone's scared you should be everyone is scared ev literally everyone's like wow yeah like that's a big and it was like yeah i didn't i didn't understand i was on a plane one time that had turbulence and i was like kind of fall asleep and it what and my first thought was what am i like that's in december yeah i'm going to pee my pants and we were already like how many rarity went over three hours and a half four hours we're at four hours nice four hours dude pretty close to first that was awesome yeah it was great to see you man and i'm really really really happy that all this happened to you yeah and i'm crazy about you too and uh and i'm yeah i think they're wealthy i think the world to you too thank you all right bye everybody [Music] you