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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day all right talk to me earthquake what's happening what's up Joe how you great to see you man thanks for having me first of all my pleasure listen your special is [ __ ] outstanding it is one of the best specials I've seen in a long time it's hard to laugh by yourself out loud on a phone when you're watching someone on a phone I laughed hard thank it was great it's you it's like you know sometimes someone does a special and it's like it's better seeing them live but you captured it it was um it was a journey it was the first time I was properly financed you know what I mean um we wasn't um borrowing money or had the right vehicle properly supported by the Distributors and everything so it was it was the opportunity then I knew the significance of it by Dave being a part of it that this is the one I needed to elevate me to get off of this level that I'm on right now well we were talking about this before but in my mind your level in terms of your ability you're already there you're one of the best Comics alive there's no there's no doubt about it so this is a great representative of that it's a great representation of that cuz it's very rare that someone gets as good as you are that's not selling out Arenas like that's how good you are well thank you so it's it's exciting for me yes and um you know I hope but you know it you're a comic man you never know what's going to do it what's going to generate I never had a problem with um I never equated quantity with quality so when I seen people 15 17 18,000 I never felt inferior or bad that I had 2,000 you know what I mean the work of it and then at the end of the day to be quite honest with you as a comic you know when you first get into it you stay with you just just want to make people laugh and I have achieved that so I had already felt that I was successful but sometime you do sit back like godamn when are they ever going to get to the ease they keep skipping me how long does it take I mean cuz you you know I said in um in my anle the thing I'm saying I've been the bridesma for so long and never the bride and watch all my friends just get TV shows and everything and like you said I look at my friends they and I see them
tent why I don't feel it I just look at them and say they they had an opportunity and they achieved and they and they won on it and they cashed in on it I have yet to have that opportunity to cash in and on it so that's what I'm looking for well the fact that Dave Chappelle's behind it that Dave produced it and he introduces you at the beginning of the special that's that's gigantic that's that's going to help a lot but we we've all been talking about you for years everyone's terrified to follow you everyone when we find out that you were at The Comedy Store everybody's like oh [ __ ] where is at in the lineup [ __ ] that spot that spot after you is not fun yeah I mean when you have nothing but your jokes you got to at least perfect that aspect of the career well you're a hustler too you're always out there and the guys that are constantly working there's a Polish that you get when you're on the road and you're doing those Thursday Friday Saturday Sundays when you're just constantly doing sets there's a there's an undeniable polish that a guy gets yeah I mean you there I call them the Frontline workers you know what I mean success takes you off the front line you know what I mean it does it it it it it um keeps you from your fans to feel exact because we we feed off the information that we get from our fans yeah and um if you're isolated with security or other things that you have to do or the mon you know the enormous of your career you kind of like get away from the people that actually um support you and that's a key to me I always stay within my constituents some way family member or somebody I take a young comedian on a road with me who I I um I look up to and say he can make it and just allow him to be in the life and I just watch what he do and what he going through and that's why I keep my my stuff yeah I do I do the same I do the same and I also bring a lot of comedians to the shows that I do in town bring open micers I bring have them go up I give them tips give them good spots you know let them let them try it out give them rough spots sometimes after someone really good let them feel that let them feel that and I think for a lot of kis a lot of guys get big and then they start getting television shows and movies and you don't realize how much time that
takes away from your standup true when I was doing Fear Factor I remember like seeing guys that would come into town you know that were doing the road constantly and I'd be jealous I would I was on a television show hit show but you know and everybody wanted to be on a hit show but I would see these guys that were so smooth because they just been doing those Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday two shows Friday two shows Saturday Sunday on the road and they were just whoop [ __ ] whoop just greased up and just smooth and just everything was polished yes yeah that's the that's the top level you know when you get to that you when you're headlining constantly and you just your your act is just so polished yeah and you can see it too irrelevant and they talking about things you're like damn yeah I didn't't see it that way yeah damn you know what I mean it's the beautiful part that's what I look for you never seen it this way you never seen this angle of it you know well that's the best when you watch a comic and they say something that you would have never expected and you're like wow that's that's a nice angle that's a nice angle that's it that's the craft that's the hook yeah yeah that's the sweet spot we call it in the pocket that's when you're in the pocket you get it where did you record this um Washington DC um yeah at home I'm from Washington DC Southeast DC so when Dave came to me where you want to go I said well let's go ahead and make it as rough as possible let's go and do it at home let everybody be here so if least if nothing else I um I stamp my hometown that's right you talk about that in the beginning of it yes there's the other guy that you know I've had on recently who's also it's undeniable and un unbelievable that he's not Huger is Tony Woods yes yeah I had Tony Woods on recently and then we did a show together at the Vulcan I'm like God damn he's good yes he's so smooth me and Tony been friends for over 25 years yeah me too I've known Tony from since the 90s yes Tony is um my man he's from DC too and he has that slow delivery and sarcastically and it's it's beautiful when you write do you sit down and write do you just collect information throughout the day like how do how do you come up with material um I never I write in my mind I never physically
right what I do I come up with a um concept and elaborate on it and usually it comes with a TR with a truth and then it expand to a big ass lie you know what I mean like they say the first casualty of war is the truth so that's what it is um there it is and then I just expand on it expand on it expand on it so when I get on stage I never know what I'm going to say but once I see it and I just say what I see cuz I see it in my mind mind and then I just it comes out that way that's how I do it so when you write new material do you just go up with it or do you try to sandwich it in between material that you've already do no like this right here I say like this is what I'm not going to talk about I take everything like this special I'm not going to talk about any of that and then I start from then on so like so you take all the material that you're not going to do anymore cuz did it in the special right but when you like say if you have a new bit that you're trying to work into your act do you try to do it first you try yeah I I do it right there because I know where it is to be funny with it you know what I mean so um I start just say what I find is funny like we going through this thing with Kuwait I mean with um UK over Ukraine excuse me and I'm like okay the Russians are Marching they're marching so you start from that point on and just elaborate all way through and you just work it out on stage work it right there on stage interesting yeah I work it right on stage have you always done it that way always really yeah see I had my own comedy club and um it was the Uptown Comedy Corner and U the comedy act theater wouldn't allow me to perform there so when I um where was that in Atlanta Georgia so they wouldn't let me um perform there so I told my mother they don't said my mother said told you if they're not going to let you ride their bike you either get your own bike or walk so I like all right um I got my own club and because I was affiliated with this dude they said this not all black comedy club white dudes and prob on it so they kind of like boycotted my club so they left me there to do all the jokes and I had to entertain them so I was able to just go up there and just go and it was the best thing ever happened for me who the [ __ ] boycotted your Club
other Comedians and you know back in the day because you know back in the day youve been in the game long if you work this club you can't work this club yeah you know comedy act theater was the was the Premier black comedy club so you got a club in Los Angeles and Atlanta that's the premier black club and it's this new club with the dudes that's not from here name earthquake and the owner say you go up here you'll never work in my club what they what you know what comedians going to do right they going like no man I would do your club but Gary said if I go up there I ain't going to be to work like all right and it was only until Steve Harvey which is a good friend of mine called him up and said Steve none of these [ __ ] ain't doing like [ __ ] that I do it Steve came in sold it out and when they saw him come seeing him they saw me and the rest was history wow so you were basically working at your Club almost every night every night wow I was the feature the open mic and the headliner you know what I mean that's why if people seeing they thinking I'm drunk or something leaning up against the wall that's just what I would do I used to just lean up on the wall and do a hour straight off the top and just hit it that way and that just became my style and I just continue on see what I say and just riff right off of it that's an amazing gym to train at like to to to have that kind of a setup it's kind of by necessity exactly still that's an amazing way to to work on your act holy [ __ ] yeah that's how I do I just you know come up with some different topics and elaborate on them so you didn't do any prep beforehand like you would never sit down with a notepad and write ideas out or anything no I don't um I don't do that what I do is this what I'm going start at and I continue on and then at the time go I tape every show I've ever did and I supposed to been disciplined enough to go back say I know it's something that I want to elaborate on La later and I I got it down so I could talk about it later but I never did I never did I just said [ __ ] it I it and something else to come you know what Comics do that record and never listen or never watch it how many a lot almost every one of them okay oh yeah I got all my shows and I watch I occasionally will
go back and look at them if there's something that I don't remember I said I know I said something and I got to figure out what it is I'll go watch see that's where it's also a key if I try to think about what I said right it'll never come out right because you won't be smooth you won't be in the moment W cuz I'm thinking you know what I mean that one is just for y'all it was theread for that if I try to capture it and bring it up and take it to St Louis what I did in Dallas it ain't going to work it has to be right then and there so you just pray you get up there and say God has never let me down before and keep on going with it well that is one of the beautiful things about your style is that it seems so loose and relaxed and natural cuz if you can achieve that mindset and just do that every night and never think about the material just let it flow out yeah mean that's an amazing gift yeah I mean it's um Steve told me that too it's like CU I remember I did get caught up in the comedy club this is how he supped to write a joke and everything and I was writing and he said what you doing I said I'm writing and get my stuff together he just grabbed the paper tore it up he said you don't need to write your [ __ ] come out already don't let him [ __ ] with you that and once he told me that it was on wow it was on so he gave you the advice and not right yeah he gave me the advice said don't write it down let it be let it go I ordinarily I would argue with that I would say no you should definitely write but then I see what you doing and I'm like leave it alone yeah I mean I try I try to conform it in and put it in and have I really to be honest with you I I I envy those polish ass comedians I mean every word like Seinfeld this go here I mean polished I couldn't that's not me cuz mine is like a testimony like preaching you get caught up in the gospel of it and you just some words don't come right cuz you in it you know what I mean you in it so you know it's like Michael James come on now I'm pretty sure wasn't written down he got into the song and come on now came and it works with the song well some of my favorite people perform like that like Joey Diaz Joey Diaz will go on stage with some [ __ ] that happened five minutes before and he'll open with it and and you'll be
dying laughing and there's no preparation is just smooth and natural and just who he is and you can't achieve that like that's not something that a guy who doesn't do that can do it's like a rare ability to be able to just be smooth and loose like right away with a bit yeah I mean it's it's is um to be because we already know that it's funny in our head now we just want to tell you it's like you said man guess what I saw and you want to tell them I saw this funny thing and that's what it is yeah you know what I mean and if you try to tell the story again it will you'll tell the story again but it'll never be like you told it the first time the second time the third time the fourth time it competes you know completely just revolve and revolve to a bigger lie to more funnier now when you prep for this special how many shows did you do I did two shows two shows two shows night no one per night one um one per night like a Friday and a Saturday Friday and a Saturday and which one was the best better one um second one I think everybody else said the second one the first one you say let me get it in the C if the name the number one objective for me was to make sure it captured who I was you know what I mean that that and um I made sure that was on the first one then the second one it was like it's another night at the club I knew I had that one in the C they like you a even got to do the second show you don't want to we got it in the first I said no let me do this one and I did a whole different way he's like God damn so well that is what it's about right when you do a special like when someone has to do one special and you have one hour to do it like I I always talk about Bill hicks's special Relentless it was this HBO special yeah where Bill Bill was amazing but that special you could tell he's kind of tense like it's just he's got one shot to do this in one hour there's no like looseness that you would get from a regular show right so if you can get a few shows in I I do four I do two on Friday two on Saturday when you tape that would you do yeah okay cuz I did two uh like the last time I did two was in 2014 a lady heckled me during the first show and I was like oh no I was like if someone heckles me during the second show I'm [ __ ] because this one
bit was ruined right when she yelled something out but so when I do four though it's just like right away from the beginning I'm like this is going to be just a regular show so from the beginning it doesn't feel like a recording yeah I mean for us I feel build on that because you really saying I need this to do something yeah you know what I mean I need this to do something I need to work for you yes you want to you you you want your uh your rate to go up and what I mean your quote to go up you want to be considered in the room cuz you know I tell people all the time only difference between me and my peers is again opportunity that they cash in on them but you at least got to get that opportunity you need somebody to say well what about Quake yeah you know in the room what about let's try him and those opportunities and that special for Bill will put him in that room do they say what about Bill I've seen this comedian had a special he was funny he would be great for this yeah you know what I mean and that type of thing well your performances of all they've all been amazing but it's all Word of Mouth it's like people had to find out about you because people went to see you and they said you got to see this dude and then boom boom boom and it it builds up but it there has to be something that the mainstream can see people that don't know the people that have seen you and that's what this is like something that can get out there so that anybody can watch it and go holy [ __ ] yeah and for somebody to draw them in yeah see that's what's so important about Dave you put Dave name on it then everybody that love Dave going to come see it cuz ex Dave off of it and then they get to see to know you and he's doing that with Don lell as well yes yeah Don hell's is uh next month is it just the two of you no I heard it's four who I think Tony Woods and lunell that's what I heard I asked Tony about it and he's like I don't know when I'm doing it I'm like what do you mean you don't know when he goes I don't know I'm like well you should [ __ ] know no when you done when you're dealing with the master you don't know we filmed this in July really yeah and it's just dropping here in February so you got to work with you know with with
Dave on Hy because he's he's a perfectionist he reminds me I work with Dr Dre on the Beats uh the [ __ ] the speakers and um we did divorce on it and I swear to God I was in that studio with Dr Dre for about eight hours I like listen [ __ ] I am not a rapper the [ __ ] I mean every word was precise let's try to say what again like I say how many [ __ ] times do you want me to say what you know but he is like that and and um uh Dave is like that he is particular with his work and how he want to be done and you know that's where it is so he'll get to it and and when he get to it the way he want it done he'll do it and I can't argue with this process cuz the results was great yeah it's not an accident that he's considered the greatest living comedian yeah he's it's work yes it's work and he's particular with it and he's it he has in it his timing only people know the timing when to drop it when it's right is right is him and his timing is impeccable yeah no he's he's also he's constantly working Dave's constantly doing sets he'll constantly do drop in sets places like I'll on my Instagram feed I'll just find him he's in New York he's here he's there he's in La he just shows up places does sets like he's constant and not even necessarily working like getting paid just working on his craft he's constantly going in and [ __ ] around and having fun and creating new [ __ ] he's a comedian he turns over an hour so quick too yes like we were working together doing Arenas and he put out a special and then he's headlined an arena with new material like he the special was like a couple of weeks ago right and he's already like working out new [ __ ] and he's doing it front of 18,000 people exactly it's wild yeah the confidence is unmatched yes yeah got ride that quiet yeah with the confidence but it's also like the connection with his audience like they know exactly who he is they want to see it you know and he he knows what to give them he knows how to be Dave it's beautiful that he's producing specials too I love it very excited yeah I mean I have never received so much press in my career over 30 years of career I have never received so much press in this one time on the totality of my
whole career what year did you start 91 after getting out the military oh yeah yeah I was in the Air Force for nine years oh wow yeah wanted to do 20 years but the war broke out so I had to let I had to tell them I own mind practicing for war y'all fighting for real I got to tell you the truth I ain't no real Soldier I just got here to get out of my mother's house did you plan on doing stand up eventually no what happened was um I used to just sit there anything to get out of work you know cuz I was that I was that Soldier anything to get out so the Uso had a tour I said I go up there and talk a couple times on that stuff anything to get out of the military I mean get out of work and then um I saw what's about to happen I knew they was getting tired of me cuz I was a terrible Soldier you know what I mean came in as a E1 left as a E1 so what's a E1 that's the first stripe you get really nine years later still just one stripe yeah wow what do you have to do to get Stripes um some of them come with seniority and then it get to a level that you have to pass tests and know all the different aircraft I a give a about this I'm just over here trying to find out what my real purpose is you the one got me when you said it's a great place to start you a say nothing about finish so let's let's just kick it until we break up you know like dating a woman like you ain't going to be my wife until this real woman I want to mess with come along I just kick it with you and that's what the military was and it was the best experience in my life because it opened up my mind cuz I lived in DC and it's segregated and I found out there was people out there like you that had more in common with me than difference and it was the best thing never yes man yeah that's water okay so when it's kind of amazing right because if the war didn't break out maybe you would have never done stand up probably not but I would have been out the military they would have put me out cuz no advancement you just can't stay in as a E1 but it was probably not I never thought that this was my destiny I just it was the best decision that day nothing better hasn't came along so this what I supposed to be doing so what
inspired you to do an open mic as usual a woman watching Eddie Murphy do Delirious she was falling all on the ground I said if you want to [ __ ] him just say you want to [ __ ] him but he that ain't that funny that you throwing up and all that you know what I mean just stop it you just jealous you can't do that I said I can do that I heard more funny [ __ ] than that that's funny but that ain't the funniest thing I ever heard her definitely have to get this reaction you doing so she's like come on I went to the comedy club and um I said okay I can do this and then the dude gave me $500 and I'm like okay and then the money just kept coming and ain't nothing came to take his place you got 500 bucks for the first set first set dude gave me $500 what kind of dude is that hey a good dude yeah he was like look I want you to come on back I'm going give you $500 I said $500 I said you serious so I thought you know must have been a drug dealer or something trying to set me up right he said no I'm going to give you $500 come on back the weekend and I did the whole weekend and that was the $500 for the whole weekend and so what was the club uh coconuts down at the holiday in in Fort Walton Beach Florida ah I've heard of that place yeah it's all what they used to do is they used to uh rent out the uh the uh the bar at a hotel this how they do it they go to food and bage person and say listen um we'll put some comedians in here and give your guest something to do and we'll keep the door and give us a little bit off the bar and the food of man say of course and they'll book us give us like $50 a show $100 a show and do five shows do you remember your material my first joke was something about Michael Jackson yeah and that was it that's all I remember did you write anything out before you went up there did you no well I I tried writing but my hand my penmanship is so bad coming out of public school it's a damn shame when you can't even read your own [ __ ] so and my spelling is terrible so that it was like okay it's Michael Jackson what did I think about Michael Jackson I took it
from there so did did you rehearse it in your head like how did you do it I rehearsed it in the mirror like most Comedians and you know the two brushes are hollowing and the toothpastes standing up and everything but it didn't translate on the stage that time cuz when I first started doing I just look up up unfortunately looking up at the sky up at the roof of the place like a woman ain't making love for money you know what I'm saying ain't enjoying it at all so I am um that's all I got down for my first one so you just didn't know where to look um did you feel uncomfortable like trying to insecurity that's why my name is earthquake you know people keep asking me why your name earthquake I said the reason I name my name earthquake cuz if this [ __ ] don't work out I ain't gonna mess up my good name somebody coming say hey what's up Earthquake hey my name Nathaniel I don't know no earthquake it was earthquake he was n that was my brother or somebody but my name is Nathaniel I don't even know no earthquake that's hilarious I thought it was just from the reaction you got from the crowd no it was an insecurity that if this don't work out I did not [ __ ] up my good NA that's hilarious cuz I thought it was the total opposite I thought it was a cocky move no like you're about to cause an earthquake no it was like no if this this don't work out baby you know what I mean I wouldn't be I wouldn't Scully my good name it's funny because it's a perfect name for you oh thank you it really is it's a like it's in the insecurity of want to protect your name you l came up with the best nickname ever for you yes yeah and that's how it came I used to tell the joke people like how you came into the earthquake uh this is happening when your mother take every precautions and not to have a child and you still get pregnant you have and nothing else you can name that child but a natural disaster that's what I wrote as a joke for it but the truth honestly about it was the insecurity that if this don't work I don't want to mess up my name were you living in Florida at the time I lived in Florida when I got out I went to Atlanta and then from when going to Atlanta it's when I started seeing what the comedy clubs was like and that's
when we start opening my club two years later one so that is so you do Open Mic two years later you have your own club and you're going on every day yeah wow so every you got to understand I'm um Tuesday Wednesday Thursday Friday Saturday and Sunday three shows on Fridays and Saturdays one on Tuesday one on Wednesday one on Thursday Two on Sunday every day for about four straight years wow and it just and you're doing like an hour every night every show every show off the top have you ever read the book outliers no it's a great book is that is that a Malcolm who is that uh no it's um someone else malw is Malcolm godwell it's a great book one of the things it's about is uh they they detail people who are extremely successful and he talks about the amount of time that's required to get really good at something MH and how many people that look like overnight successes the amount of time they put in was extraordinary one of the things he talks about is the Beatles now the Beatles they did all these shows in Germany where they were doing like what you were doing where they were doing every [ __ ] night they were doing shows and they had put in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of hours doing these shows and so when they first you know air quote made it on the scene they had put in so much time performing so much different than most bands because they had done so many shows nightly over and over and over again yeah there's no substitute for that not at all and and it's the foundation of who I am so when I have to sit here I goes in I go in with the confident knowing all I got to do is make sure my environment is pure for me to able to write the way I do keep my mind straight and I can come up with hour I can come up with hour and when you were doing this like two years in is a very unusual that's that's not a lot of time for someone to be forget about headlining at all but headlining every [ __ ] night yeah and basically doing being the whole show every night yeah we was um we would get some comedians that come on it but we didn't get any of the main um comedians because uh comedy act wasn't happening that's such a cocky move to open up your own club two years in that's amazing but they were so
vulnerable they was in the bad T bad part of town they didn't serve uh food and then they the cotton was skin more the I mean the one that really would bring them down they were so arrogant with it that they book a comic two comics for the whole month the same comic every week every every week oh that's crazy yes I remember it was Joe Tori um Joe Tor and Ted coer and they did the whole month so when I BR my investors there to get the club I said look these same two going to be here it's 400 people in here they got two waitresses plus they ain't got no food plus they're in the bad part of town so what we going to do we going to put it we GNA put the club in Buckhead black people don't go there that much right there because they don't go there we GNA call it Uptown and we G we gonna serve food we gonna have valet service we're gonna be in a better part of the town and that's how he got it so once you any of you going to go up against anybody you first got to U recognize their weakness and where you can draw from what they got and that's why I pivot all my commercials to them that way are you tired of going down to a place you park your car and you might don't know who going to be there and they begging you for money no come get your jokes up at the Uptown Comedy Corner you you know what I'm saying you don't see the same comedian over and over again and we have food and we have prompt service and everything else come to Uptown so I just and as you sit there you give them a a comparison about of time and people like yeah we like it that's how I got them that's amazing though that you did that two years in like go from your career in the military where you kind of half asset you're not really into it and then all of a sudden you find this new thing and you're all in yeah you're all in you're you're opening up your own Club 24 months in that's crazy but what you know was out of necessity cuz I got tired of driving night all the way to Lakeland Florida to get $50 a show and then the biggest one you'll tell a woman you're a comedian and she's like oh I ain't never seen you had the ComEd you know we segregation we we segregated in the black community if you ain't here then you ain't doing it you
know what I mean so it ain't done just it wasn't as expanded as it is now that they can even imagine this other club this was the club of all Club the only Club if you didn't work there you was no black comedian so so you had this in your head that you wanted to do this and how did you make that happen like who did you get to invest in it like how did how did you start a club well it was this dude named Gary Abdu he was book he was a comedian too and but he booked things in like um he used to do little little small places like Denny's for example and put a plywood box up there a little small place sit there and he throw a show and um he booked me pay me $150 me Ricky smileing rest of them and we sat down and say what you need to do is we need to open up a black Club so I showed it to him and I said this is how we can get him what I previously said said good idea so we all went out and tried to get investors I went to all Dion Sanders Dominique all the people in Atlanta hey man show just call this person call this person [ __ ] ain't never do nothing one one of the person was real one of the person represented was very honest we said listen man quick I get five of these calls a day he ain't gonna do [ __ ] I'm just he ain't gonna do nothing man I ain't even gonna waste you die you know what I mean so lucky um Gary found um the number one plastic surgeon in Atlanta and he invest but he told us I'mma give y'all $10,000 if y'all can flip this and show it can work on the small states then I'll get the club so we went to Birmingham a couple places and turned tent into about 50 to 60,000 and then when we get that from that point on he said you can do it and he gave us the half a million dollars to get the club wow yeah Dr Tom wow rest in peace my brother wow yeah white dude was great he um he used G put all the titties in the women in Atlanta George he was the titty specialist you know what I mean so have you seen any big titties in the 90s in the early 2000 it was Dr do and how did you know him I didn't um my partner Gary at the time knew him and he BR him in and we got together we said I found somebody could do it but he just the stipulation for us to do it and uh when I met him I I was cool it was beautiful do you remember the opening night
yes we had 15 people yeah wow yeah it was 15 people we so surpr it hold um 250 yeah yeah 250 people some of the people matter of fact um my video person who handled my media for me um star um she was um that's how we met I hired her as my waitress and we've been friends ever since wow I gave her a job to handle all my um my social media wow so you go from there 15 people yes and was it you the first guy on stage yeah I had a couple of uh comedians to um help me out but I was the the main man until we was able cuz see once that club closed then all the ComEd a man I'm sorry man I'mma get down cuz now you're the only comedy club in the city right you know what I mean but till then it was a battle and it was was a blessing in disguise cuz it made me the Beast that I am today when did it start to catch on after Steve left once Steve and Steve he taught me so much you know cuz when he came he said I'mma do your Club cuz I couldn't get no Headliners nobody that could draw and I was like Steve would you do it he was hosting Showtime prob said I do it for you and he came in on a Wednesday and it was only about 30 people in there and I was like and he came and then and looked he said give him all their money back and um come pick me up tomorrow at 5:00 when we do media I said what you mean there 30 people he said Steve Harvey don't do no show for 30 people I said okay then mother and then I I picked him up and he took me to the radio just when I learned how powerful media is and he stopped by he said let's stop by Dunkin Donuts cuz we got to get some donuts and some some orange juice cuz you got to smooth these jocks egos cuz they feel you gonna try to take their [ __ ] job and everything you got to be good on them and he um we got in there at 5:30 stayed on from 6:00 to 9: I tell you Joe when we got back excuse me when we got back he had sold out two on Thursday four on Friday four on Saturday and two on Sunday back in 93 I wrote him a check for $45,000 I didn't even know that kind of money exist in comedy I was like oh yeah
I ain't never going nowhere I ain't never going nowhere and when I saw him pick up that kind of money and seeing what kind of money can be generated as a comedian I said this is where I need to be and once all of those people came and seen all the things that club had to offer and we was at and we had valet service and all the things that it could do it was no turning back after that and they saw me so it was great wow that will change the whole game that's a great story yeah that's changed the whole game but he said Steve Harvey don't that's why I tell people about Steve Harvey Steve Harvey has always been Steve Harvey with the ultimate confidence he was like do no show for no 50 people I said mother this packed [ __ ] you mean you back it's 50 people in here I read an interview with him recently where he said he doesn't want to do standup right now because his television career is too good and he's worried about cancel culture yeah Steve is a if they really pull Steve to the side and allow him to speak his mind you think they was after you [Laughter] if they ever allow Steve Harvey to talk his M well put it this way if Steve Harvey ever talked his mind way he really feels about everything ah beautiful man to watch I learned so much just watching his craft just watching how he put it together that ra he yeah well I was reading this interview and it seems like he wants to it seems like he's going to wait until he has a certain amount money and then go back into comedy that's what it seemed like to me cuz he was saying like there'll they'll come a time but like right now I mean he's got Family Feud he's always got five different shows on simultaneously every time I turn around the show TV's got some new show I tell him give up one of these [ __ ] man God damn man I don't know how he does it oh he's a workaholic I just don't understand where he has the time I mean doesn't he do like Miss Universe and how the [ __ ] does he have the time for all he doesn't sleep and he's a money making machine yeah he got enough money he just don't got enough he wants but he's straight oh I'm sure I'm sure he's trying to get more well the thing is like when you hit that level where
you can make that kind of money you don't really want to let it stop you want to let it accumulate as much as you can but I think like once you're a comic you're always going to want to do comedy you're always going to want to get that the rush of stand up it might not pay as much as the other things but there's nothing greater in terms of like the way it feels when you're on stage and you're just murdering and everyone's dying that that's a that is a Groove that very few human beings ever get to slide into who don't want to be the funniest man in the room right I tell people all the time we got the greatest job in the world cuz no matter what you do saying about a good time with your friends it includes us laughter you say when you sit there and say hey hey hey man I was with my boy and we was having a good time we was laughing all night bingo we had the laughing all night dudes you understand we are that we walk with that we are the good time dudes you understand we give good times everywhere it is you want your woman let a woman describe how much she love a man I was with him and I swear like we knew each other for the longers and we laughed and kicked and everything always got to put laugh in it yeah laugh is include it it's a necessary to have it so I love it man I mean when you on when it is and you know it's hitting and you see it it's beautiful it is beautiful and it's it's a beautiful thing to watch still uh you know I've been doing comedy 33 years I still love watching it I still love it and I was worried in the beginning that I wouldn't I was worried in the beginning that I would get jaded or I would be jealous I'd watch someone kill I'm like God why didn't I think of that that's how was when I was 21 I was 21 and dumb I'd see someone kill and I'd be like oh why is he doing so good and then I realized that and I was like oh that's so weak I'm like that's a weakness like you can't think like that and I I snapped out of it and then I just started being a fan again see that's the good thing about me I can't watch other comedians cuz I don't physically write so I have to keep my thought patterns pure ah so I don't want to watch him and then I see it and then St consciously I think I came up with it right so the best way to keep myself pure I don't
watch other Comics at all no I I even Dave I don't watch any comedians at all I don't I see a part of what they do what Their style is but when they get into their bits and stuff like that I tap out I don't even watch Minds after I done did you watch this special at all just this Wednesday when we had the Prem really yeah so you didn't you weren't involved in any the editing no Dave and my manager Jermaine didn't wow cuz I know if I watch it damn I should have said that I should have said that see that's the gift in the curse with it you're like damn I forgot to say that part of it damn I put put that on it so I've have yet to perfect that set that I like all right everything that's supposed to came out in that came out isn't that because like comedy's it's so organic yes it's just it's like a living thing up there yes and you never get it perfect it's never it's never going to especially you know you know what you can do and you know that that like Wednesday was different than Tuesday and it's like sometimes one bit's better one day and another bits better another day it's never going to be exact yeah but see that's the blessing of it you can keep striving for it you see what I'm saying so you can never get jaded and you never get burnt out yeah cuz if you already set that standard for yourself trying to strive for Perfection which you probably never do make it but God damn it the journey is where it's at and that's what it is of so I don't even watch it on it it's gone let me see what it do yeah the striving for Perfection is where it's at it is the journey cuz there's don't the destination's not real not real yeah and if and a lot of us comedians swear to God get Jaded by that how so why you think because they already know that it is no Perfection so [ __ ] it why even try uh but you understand you see them all the time H you have comedians that's been doing this as long as my I have and just gave giving up yeah hell with Hollywood hell with not having a show ain't never GNA give it to me I say I tell him all the time it's I won't know it cuz i' be dead before I stop trying for it just it would never I would never know that I will not have all the professional accolades my peers have yeah cuz I'll be dead cuz I will always
strive to get it the thing about the Hollywood part is that you you're getting a bunch of people that aren't even comedians to try to give you something true and that's true I'm glad I escaped that true well no I can't I wish I could I think you can I think you can I think you can with this special I really do it's that good but you're that good too it's it's not like it's just the special it's there's a few guys like you Dave Chappelle or David H rather Tony Woods there's a few guys that like they don't get the credit that they deserve but the performance is there which is the hardest part like if you a famous person but you're not good at standup and and then people come to see you that's not so good no that's the opposite of what you want you're better off being in your position because you've got the product you've got the you've got everything it's just it just needs a vehicle to present it to people and now you have that let me ask you this and when you see this self-proclaimed great comic that the industry then put up on it and then you actually go see his act and it's no I mean it's Elementary at best but just being that how do you react to it do you tell him or you just say good set do you you know cuz a lot of oh you was outand like man stop lying to that man you know he that was an outstanding say you happy for his success yeah but he's not a great comic there's a few guys that get stuck on shows you when you get stuck on a show or get stuck on and you get famous for a show and then you know you're your comedy suffers because you don't have the time but your profile gets elevated right and then you start believe in the hype and everybody loves you anyway it's one of the things that like Steve Martin said when he got really famous he stopped doing standup because he wasn't getting an honest reaction they were just so so happy to see him Steve Martin this huge star that they were laughing at everything and you see that sometimes of people they're just happy to see you and so you don't get this honest reaction so you you the difference between and that's what I was jealous about when I was doing Fear Factor like there was these guys that were just they they didn't have a TV show like I did but they were so good they were so polished and it made me
realize like after I was done with Fear Factor no more of that I'm done no more now I'm just going to be like fully dedicated to stand up in podcasts so when you decided to do that how much more did you hit the stage after that constantly constantly Much More Much More and much more touring that's the big one the big one is the road you know Charlie Murphy me and John he did uh a tour for uh budlight This Real Men of Comedy Tour and we were this the first time I ever did a tour where we did 22 shows in a month and that was like 2007 and we did 22 show we were we we we'd wake up in a hotel room I don't know where the [ __ ] I am stare at the ceiling Ohio I don't know where I am I forgot I'd have to look at my phone and we did these shows where we're headlining just we would go back and forth like he would headline one I would headline the other and by the end of the month my [ __ ] was so tight right it was just cracking and I remember I was talking to my friend Brian and he was like have you ever done this before we've done like 22 hourong shows in in a in a month and I said no and he goes man he goes your show is so tight everything is so smooth and I go this is what I got to do I got to do this all the time I got to do this all the time and it it reinforced cuz it was right after Fe Factor it ended and that's when I started doing that and it made me realize that is it's there's no substitute for the attention that you give something the the the focus that you give something when you're just fully completely dedicated to it yeah and this if any profession shows who's dedicated and who's not you cannot cheat this right here the mic you can have all the accolades and he's on this and he's on that you'll get that first five seven minutes not even yeah well you got a minute yeah then they they like come on now we used to see that at The Comedy Store a guy would go up and he was on a sitcom or something like that and be like oh I can't believe he's here oh my goodness and then you see 30 seconds in they'd be like hm when is this going to get funny and then a minute in they're like what the [ __ ] right and there's too many funny people on the lineup yes he got 12 people on that night and you better be funny man just to and that's the great part about comedy cuz if you better be
prepared I tell comedians all the time it's not how many followers you got how many comedians you can follow so you must be able to be able because at some point you're going to be on the same stage where they're able to compare yes now you can go and put that little weak comic in front of you when you had your own show and then everybody love you but eventually you're going to come in a pit and when when you come in the pit you ain't going to be able to pick your opposition yes and you're going to put in the lineup and based upon your accolades and your profile and your show he going to bump you up to last or what have and you're going to have to be able to go behind all of them yes so that's when you know you are the truth especially when you don't have no accolades other than your name I remember when cat was the hottest out when American Airlines theater he had just flew in to do the Lonzo morning thing Steve Harvey was hosting and I don't know what cat said but you can hear the [ __ ] the laughter coming underneath the door and everything like God damn you know and all the groupy girls was over there and they were like come on now we can go ahead and go now cuz cat G gol we need to go ahead and Steve was like show over you out your [ __ ] see this motherucker right here this [ __ ] is going to show y'all what it is come on champ I'm like all right man but did you hear what this [ __ ] I mean this is when cat first blew and uh and everybody know good evening s ladies and gentlemen I mean this mother me oh he was so good ladies and gentlemen and Pips and everything and they 18, and we in the back I said what the [ __ ] but as usual you know just gr that wave yes wherever he took it from that point on I don't write long jokes and long setups and got right into it and once you get there and you hit them there you like ride that [ __ ] way the key that I noticed when I when I first started I would get nervous going on after someone who was really good and then eventually I realized no you should be laughing at them should be having fun you go up there enjoying it and ride the wave ride the wave but you're worri like what if they don't like me as much as they like him sh and if you're going out I went on
after Martin Lawrence in the 90s like almost every time I was at the cuz Mitsy Shaw one of the the great things about Mitsy Shaw was she knew how to test you she knew how to put you in a bad spot and every time I was on the lineup if Martin Lawrence was on the lineup I was going on right after Martin so Martin would go the whole main room would be sold out he would murder this was the leather jumpsuit days you know what I mean like Martin would murder like in a way way I I I wanted to quit comedy I would I would go on after him and most of the crowd would leave like three quarters of the crowd would just leave the moment Martin was off stage and then they would bring me up he would bring me up because you know the The Comedy Store tag teams right he would just say my name this guy's a real funny guy give it up for Joe Rogan and I'm like thanks uh and I just go up and [ __ ] but I learned how to survive and you learn how to grab people you learn how to ride the wave and you learn how to grab them right because you're going on after a guy who's selling out Arenas and he's a movie star and he's got his own television show and he's just way better than you there's no if ANS or butts about it you know it the audience knows it you got to figure out a way to elevate you got to rise up and there's there's no other way you either rise up or you quit or or you go home or you take that ass whoop it you take that ass whoop it you got to take it everybody has to take it I see them up there taking them ass who and I be wanting to stop the fight just just just let them off let just let them off hit the light put the light up and let them get off that's why everybody wants to bring those weak comics on the road with them that's the that's the worst move ever ever CU you're torturing the audience too no but you what you're doing is you're giving yourself a self to be quite honest with self com I mean comfort that it's going to come back and bite you in the ass yes you know what I mean I like to take the funniest young dude that's out there and take him on a road with me so now I know what the standard is and still shoing steals yeah so do you yeah do you I mean I give them 30 minutes do you and then I come behind it and do me and as long as do doing you and you the
top one and I still kill all over and they still love me more than that keeps me hot man that keeps you sharp you don't want to sit here and these punching bags they put in front of them and you can see it you'll see it but a lot of comics like I mean I got friends they like man I'm not coming to work and fight every weekend yeah this the time I'm wa for my wife I can go up here have a good time I'm not sitting back in the green room over here sweating because this young woman turned the roof off now I'm auditioning for my own show yeah and that's what they feel you got to sweat it I swe I sweat it still today and local shows I put local shows I had Ron White Tim Dylan Tony henchcliffe Derek Poston I mean David Lucas I we have these giant monster lineups like I'm still backstage getting ready like feeling it here open the door close the door woo this is a show have to be on that edge if you're not on that edge you're just not going to be what you you're capable of you're never going to achieve what you're capable of no you'll never reach a potential and you'll never stay sharp and if you were doing shows with Cat Williams during the Pimp Chronicles days my God he was good my God he I mean Joe I'm telling you the Green Room was way down this [ __ ] BR it and it came underneath it remind me of the Ten Commandments remember when the fog went underneath the [ __ ] everybody put the blood up the for the first bur don't to get killed and everything his laughter came under like that to the point you in a mid singing sentence talking to a yeah baby I love what the [ __ ] excuse me baby you go out here and see people standing what did he say yeah well he had a look too yes you know it was he was funny just looking at him yes and he's he's a very intelligent brother very intelligent I learned something from him talking about his preparation from shows for shows how he has a playlist that he listens to just before he goes on stage and he doesn't eat before he goes on stage he goes I always want to be hungry he goes I never want to be full you never want to be full when you're performing no I can't eat before I go on stage I don't eat I don't eat before I go on stage because of him because I saw
that interview and I was like of course why didn't I think of that because there's times where I've eaten cuz I'm always hungry man I'm always I'm always I'm a glutton so it's like I have to force myself to be disciplined damn but you look good though man I'm going lose about 20 lbs man how you going to do it um just be disciplined I mean I did it before but after a while I said [ __ ] it man you know how I lose weight how I eat only meat really yeah only meat yeah I'm on it's called a carnivore diet yeah I eat meat and fruit that's it no bread no pasta no sugar no [ __ ] I just eat steak and fruit that's it that's it and I take a lot of vitamins and a work out a lot okay there you go that helps too I know that workout had to come somewhere that [ __ ] that's how I keep saying I I need to work out that's me I I don't I don't have like a I don't have like I can just hang out brain my brain needs activities my brain needs uh it needs tasks and if I don't give it tasks it turns on me really yeah yeah my brain's like what are you doing [ __ ] what are you doing [ __ ] I'm like listen I got [ __ ] to do yeah my brain will turn on me yeah I have to like get out ahead of it damn yeah my brain's like a like a wolf chasing me like I got to get out ahead of the wolf damn yeah my brain lazy as [ __ ] stay right here get this [ __ ] don't here you know you done already exceeded your expectations you won listen you know I mean really well we all have different heads you know you have to think like what what's the best way to balance out your head and that's I figured out a long time ago when I exercise a lot I can relax and if I if I don't if I don't squeeze all the extra energy out of my body I can't relax really yeah not only can I not relax but I turn on myself damn yeah I am relaxed when I don't do a damn thing let me explain something to you I mean I I can sit on the couch for Hey listen I can sit on the couch for 4 days if I can get away with it really oh yeah I don't need a damn thing I'm that dude give me a remote I sit on that [ __ ] all [ __ ] listen I only go to work cuz I have to [Music] listen when I get some money once you'll know when I got some money cuz you won't
see me I'm being honest with you that's why I never understand seeing all these people would say they got all this money I like the [ __ ] why are you working I am once I get enough money to the point that my black ass would never have a unseen episode you know yeah hey man I'm good you know what I mean I I swear I I can't I don't I don't I I don't I don't get it I just don't get it I working the only reason I see people supposed to work because you supposed to go get the money right and even if it's a pleasurable job which we have but let me get the money my black ass ain't going nowhere I'm the opposite the more money I get the more I think I don't want to get lazy just because I have all this money so I work harder see I don't want that keep that philosophy I want to get the money so I don't have to be able not to do a damn thing I get it I get that not a damn I get depressed I can't just watch TV if I watch TV I'd have to have accomplished a lot of [ __ ] before I can just sit down and just relax that's what I mean that's my everything watching TV that's about everything right below a woman you understand what I'm saying hey I can't I mean I could just sit there and watch TV and don't worry about nothing that's why I have a perfect mentality for stardom cuz I don't have to go nowhere I don't have to be at the after party right when I say good night it's good night when I walk off the stage I'm gone yeah I am I go straight to the hotel chill and be prepared for the next place I go I don't do none of the rest of the stuff n Dave likes to go out oh Dave H he's an animal he goes out he's an animal I learned about vitamin IVs from Dave yes cuz when we first started doing shows together like he'd be drinking all night and then next thing in the morning he's like Hey Joe we're going to do these IVs and I go what are you doing he's like vitamins like that's how he does it glutathione which helps your body process alcohol high do IV vitamin C D E zinc and I was like really so I first started doing vitamin IVs when I worked with Dave and I was like oh okay so it just rejuvenates the body so we would be in a room and there's like eight of us in there all hooked up to a tree like
this IV tree and these tubes coming off these bags hanging from this metal stack where they've got all our IV bags we're all just sitting around talking [ __ ] getting an IV drip damn I heard about them yeah I couldn't afford them it's not that much money no no no okay no I heard about him you should do it I'm G try it out one time you do shows with Dave ever um only with a couple times I I stepped in Houston i' say about four or five I did it did you do yell Springs at all when you had that no no no did you go no I didn't go no I went up there um when we had to do the uh taping um for the uh to get together when we going to release it and he did all the uh editing on it little to I could never live there no [ __ ] no how come uh no I'm not a mayor type guy is it really maybery ah farms and [ __ ] yeah it's a small town you know everybody know he each other but it's great for Dave you know what I mean Dave can go do what he want to do in the world and come back there you can tell who don't belong there they'll stick out like a thumb you know what I mean you can tell you can't just say you were just in the area right you know what I mean you came here looking for him you came you know what I mean does he get a lot of that though no I don't think so the town loves him in this small town you know it's really Maybury type [ __ ] well he's got a Comedy Club he's opening up there yeah he bought a firehouse yeah and he's going to turn it into a comedy club and he's going to call it the firehouse though is he yeah well that's what he said last time I talked to him about it I told him I'd do it oh [ __ ] yeah going to be 120 catar he also said 64 million something like that that's how much it cost he said all together the um the development when he was cussing out them other peop when he was in the uh when he went to the uh County meeting or city council meeting when the other uh buildings was coming he was telling you want to lose this 64 million to bring that 24 milon is that what he said yeah something like that is this it yeah that's the F oh [ __ ] is that the design of it or the actual image I mean it is not built yet but that's yes the design so that's a cad that's a oh wow what a great look at the image of him and neon
on the side that's amazing and that used to be a fire department he has that whole thing in with the shack you been in okay you ain't been sha he has that whole replica right up there wow yeah yeah when is he supposed to have this open I don't know but it's nice wow that looks great it's perfect that's a perfect thing that's a perfect size too to [ __ ] around too and if you're in a small town you could get 120 people well people are going to go there days I think it's a little bigger than that but you only like 40 minutes 30 minutes from Dayton Ohio okay so you're not far right from civilization and plus it's Dave they're going to go and then it's Dave build it they will come yeah it's Moses talking come on yeah they're going to come and see them when this is when this episode's over I'll tell you about my club cuz I I bought a place in town did you yeah go ahead yeah I'll tell you the whole deal I can't talk too much about it on the air right but it's got two rooms one is 250 seats one's going to be about 120 seats perfect yeah I'll give you the whole details oh man I'm going come down man 100 make makes you book me now 100% 100% I'm just not going on after you ah stop it I'm going to put on someone after you that talks too much [ __ ] that's a lot of people there's a lot of people man that talks a lot of [ __ ] there's a lot of people a lot of it but those kind of clubs like The Comedy Store or like what I'm going to plan on doing here where you have a lot of people going on it at night I think there's there's a camaraderie to that there's a thing to that that you don't get when you're just doing the road by yourself right and then it's a mixture you know what I mean one thing I do love about The Comedy Store they have a lot list of comedians and the people come in and they come out then having a set show MC feature headliner you know what I mean just let it rotate you know like the I like the tag teaming too each comic brings up the next comic I like that too yeah it's it's beautiful it's a beautiful way to do it Mitsy sha was a [ __ ] genius she really was she was a genius I liked her she um she gave me confidence cuz I went to audition yeah you can go you can
be there y you can go your earthqu yeah Miss she sure gave it to me cuz I sure wasn't going to be no non-paying regular you know what I mean walking you know watching the door to get on stage I just couldn't take that process I was paid regular I was a non-paid regular for like 6 months yeah yeah yeah I had kids I can't yeah when you got a woman on your back everything got to be paid ain't such in the non-paid everything you doing you better bring some money home you know I came to LA in '94 uh I'd only been doing standup for like six years and uh I auditioned for mity she goes well you can go on after the show you could be a non-paid regular and I was there every night every I didn't have any friends I didn't know anybody I was on this terrible TV show so I was out there all I cared about was The Comedy Store that's all I was out there cuz that was Mecca when I was when I started out in Boston in 1988 everybody would talk about The Comedy Store that's a Comedy Store Comedy Store in Hollywood that's where Richard PRI would perform Sam kinnison would perform there Dice Clay would perform there like who it was like the this place that like a mythical place I remember the first time I went there there was like a boat act on stage the guy was like a cruise it was terrible the guy was awful the crowd was half full I was like this is The Comedy Store like what the [ __ ] happened killed your dreams well it just was a dose of reality cuz The Comedy Store goes in these waves and like uh like in the you know the the 80s it was Prior and he was this massive star and people all the celebrities would come to The Comedy Store to see him and of course there was always Robin Williams was there and David Letterman was there all these other comedians were there too but it was propelled by the the gravity of Richard prior right and then in the 80s later in the 80s it was Kennison I came in when all that was gone and there was no big comic there it was no there was no like one guy right so there's always for whatever reason been a few big name guys and I got in in '94 where there was this lull oh so I got to see like these guys that hung around to long and they had the same act for 30 years and they were half ass and they were bitter and they hated young guys like me angry come
angry that's what I say angry yeah you from Boston yeah well I was born in New Jersey okay but I grew up in Boston yeah that's where I started doing standup okay yeah and you came out there in '94 I came out to LA '94 because I I got a I came out with a sitcom I was already on a sitcom okay called Hardball was a baseball sitcom on Fox nobody watched it but [ __ ] you see this what I'm saying came out with a show yeah boy I swear man some of y'all you you just God damn I got a Golden Horseshoe I mean come on brother then Fear Factor no I was on another show after that called news radio so I was on a sit for five years yeah so that I did that sitcom for five years and then I did Fear Factor for six years so it was like bang bang bang how did you get fear fact man I showed up for the audition stoned and uh because they told me about it and I thought it was ridiculous and one of the guys who's the casting agent had cast me on news radio so it was a still an NBC show and they were trying to do this show and they knew that I had a martial arts background and they thought well that would probably be good because this is kind of scary we're trying to make it scary I showed up stoned and I was laughing at everything cuz that that was like my getting high everyday stage of life so I I was there and I was like you're going to sitck dogs on people like what the [ __ ] is wrong with you and I was laughing like slapping the table in the meeting and I was just making fun of everything and one of the producers like he's not right for the show and the other guy was like listen if you this is my friend to this day David Hertz he said if you don't make fun of this if he doesn't make fun of this other people going to like let him make fun of it like this is what you want this is a ridiculous show we're making people eat animal dicks and we're sicking dogs on them right like you need a comedian to go what the [ __ ] are we doing and so that's how I got it m they had a totally different idea before I came in they wanted someone to fear is definitely a factor for you they wanted like a sports broadcaster the monotone ass radio dudes exactly they wanted someone who was like Cookie Cutter and F like I had a name I was on a sitcom you know was like this would work
I I've already been on NBC for five years this would be a good transition see yeah see how being you now everybody else that walked in mother took advice right this is how you should get it yeah notes you understand directions and this what they looking for and you took your high ass in there and said [ __ ] it and got the job that's what I mean and it's the is it that's and if anybody listening to me especially comedian that is the key you have to be you you just be you can't nobody tell you else how to be you and it took me a while to do that because you know when I tell people I don't write oh he you should write and rehearse this right I said man it comes out already yeah just turn the mic on let me do and it kills me with what's your first joke going to be what's your second joke gonna be listen I don't know but I will stop in seven minutes understand just I don't know if I can't cuss I won't cuss but I will stop in 7 minutes if 7 minutes is a lot of time you do it right for you that's you being you yeah some guys have to write I write I write and then I I do [ __ ] around too on stage but I sit down in front of my computer and I write and some bits come to me from that that I never would have got any other way right and then I still have to [ __ ] around on stage too I have to do all of them but some guys their whole thing is written George Carlin used to write every [ __ ] word he said everything was written out he would write like a monologue and then he would punch it up yeah Jay-Z apparently doesn't write any of his lyrics keeps them all in his head right I mean it's Bill Burr Bill Burr doesn't write he just he he comes up with bits works on them he'll make like a set list maybe of [ __ ] he's going to do but it's all in his head he's all just constantly working on it in his head yeah and he's one of the best alive it's the whole thing is it's depending on who you are yeah what's right for you is right for you there is no right way yeah the results is the right way it's just hard to be yourself you know and when the Fear Factor thing I was only myself because I didn't give a [ __ ] I I didn't think it was going anywhere true and I had a development deal so I was like what do you want me to do like what
the [ __ ] is this because I wanted to do another sitcom and then they came with this and I was like this is even better because now I don't have to work with actors I mean this would be so much better cuz working with actors is I got lucky with news radio CU it was a really talented cast and they were fun people but I had done some other [ __ ] with people where they're fake and it's a nightmare and you got to play the game and they're all reading The Hollywood Reporter and variety every day I'm like I not like you people at all I can't wait to go to the commi store tonight I'm just here because you're going to give me a lot of money and they some of the most insecure people in the world they're so weird oh they weird they're so fake that's why I would never ever could marry an actress I never believe her I love you with all my heart you you baby you're important to me seen you know what I'm saying just nothing is and I really think especially when they do this method I I said why you doing all this studying being somebody else who's developing you during that time right why you sitting here playing this actress doing all the the different nuances of this person doing all these but just acting them for months and months being who's developing you at that do you just stop your growth at this point say [ __ ] it I'm already reached the potential I want myself let me go play this [ __ ] for a while you got to be a crazy person to be really good at it but some of them aren't like I've met actors and actresses that are cool as [ __ ] that are real normal and real friendly but it's just not worth the risk yeah the risk is too you eight out of 10 are crazy crazy there's some of them that are great people they're really nice and normal they they just love acting they love being able to pretend that you're a different person just just dive into the role and become that you know you got these people that can do that they transform themselves with each movie they're a different person true it's a real craft yeah but eight out of 10 of them are just crazy people and I believe it stumped their growth and at one point I'll be like godamn who am I talking to you or Earl that you played last week you know what I mean so you you sit back on it I I
just can't deal with actresses that way well especially with what we do which is you try so hard to be authentic like the whole thing is avoid anything that takes you out of being authentic true and what that is is the exact opposite it's like you have to pretend you're this dude who lives in like Virginia 1600 and you're you're you're talking in that dialect when you're ordering food exactly like you won't break character what are you doing man no one talks like that anymore don't call me my name is King Earl call me te have your kids call it's just too much man people that get in the character and they stay in the character for days and days yes I remember I was reading this article where John Voit you know the famous actor he's the father of Angelina Jolie true and Angelina Jolie and John voy would talk on the phone in character that's how they have I'm like I'm out I'm not that's it I'm out asking too much if my daughter ever talked to me on the phone in character I would drive over to her house like what the [ __ ] is wrong with you I'm your dad I don't want to hear about this fake Debbie lady you play from Brooklyn I want to talk to you this Debbie Dad yeah I'm Debbie Dad this is who I am today no [ __ ] you you're my daughter talk normal this is crazy it's I mean but again I wouldn't say they're all nuts cuz I've met a lot of them that are very sincere they're night nice people but it's just not worth the risk at all and then especially in the the real one is it's the acting coaches I want you go deep down and grab that feeling when you was miss you was treated wrong and remember that and translate that into the character [ __ ] I don't want to open none these doors open up these doors [ __ ] around be on some Heron by Friday found out my father really didn't love me you know what I mean no I'm good I'm a functional adult and I can deal with everything I don't want to know nothing else I don't want to know what circumstances my mother did to give me away I don't want to know why she did none of that I am good okay I sleep well at night I am good with my no you got to find that pain and translate that pain into the character and that way is authentic I said if I can't just play like I'm crying without remembering when something really hurt me I'm not your
guy I am not your [ __ ] guy and again I am not an actor I'm a movie star yeah that's a difference yeah okay so we're not going down that way now you that's what it is it's it start from the Tre from the teaching of those of uh acting coaches cuz they ask you that all the time go deep I remember I had the fire acting coach over that you're not going any deep okay let's sit down and just talk about the most painful thing ever happened to you in your life and that way if you can tap into that you can bring this character to life I said listen lady I see my I going to waste my $55 here cuz I will not be here tomorrow with this kind of [ __ ] at all especially when you could be a comic like that was my take like I remember I was on the set of news radio once and one of the uh guys who was a producer said why do you still do comedy you're an actor now and when he said that I was like oh my God I got to get the [ __ ] out of here true I'm like I got to get out of here like you guys are out of your [ __ ] mind do you know how much better comedy is than this even though this was comedy because it was a sitcom like there's no [ __ ] comparison not at all everybody would look forward to the laughs that they would get when they would perform a scene in front of the crowd everybody wanted to get a good laugh I'm like I do that every night I do it every night I don't have to deal with an actor I don't have to deal with a producer a director it's just me true and I get the bigger re and my results are bigger than yours a lot bigger a lot bigger and you could ride them and you could [ __ ] around and and do different things with it you don't have to like cut that's not in the script like it's it's free you're free and very free let me ask you something when you was a comedian did they surround you with uh established actors and just allow you to play off of them or you had to conform to being an actor as an acting comedian well luckily on news radio The Producers were brilliant and they wanted us to add lib they wanted us so there was Dave Foley who's uh from the Kids in the Hall the sketch show and Dave was a like one of the secret producers of the show really cuz he was the star of the show but he was really like producing scenes so we would
rehearse and he would come up with completely new lines for things and if you had a line that was better than the line that was in the script they wanted you to say that so they wanted you they wanted to be collaborative where you would come up with the best [ __ ] so there was fun in that and we would write jokes for each other and we would [ __ ] around with each other so it was it was very fortunate that that particular job was you know it was it was okay you can [ __ ] around I'm laughing Joe cuz you had a great life man let me tell lucky very lucky blessed lucky whatever adjective you want but that's a great life to have a person in a position to to understand your strength and allow you to utilize it you have so many people you can't change the actor The Writer's words those are his birds and I look at in the fact this [ __ ] is corny yeah it's you hired me cuz you said me right but you want me to say something that I wouldn't say exactly or say it like that but all right the check say this come on down here little ear come on now here a little Earl I did that for the first show though that sitcom that I did the the baseball show that was terrible and that was I learned a lot from that because that was terrible then it started out great the guys who wrote it they wrote on Married with Children and the symptoms they were really good writers and they were really funny guys and they put together this pilot and Jim Brewer was in the pilot with me and it was a very funny pilot but then once it got on television Fox decided to hire some dude who was a producer of that show Coach and like all Cookie Cutter type stand up or sitcom writing and they brought in a bunch of hacks and they they [ __ ] up the show and it was terrible like I I remember saying lines like I can't believe this is a line on a [ __ ] sitcom it was just not good and it got and there were talented people on the show but it was just a bad show and then it got cancelled and so to go from that to news radio which was the opposite working with Phil Hartman all these like seriously talented people Steven Roode Mora Tierney and Candy Alexander and Vicky Lewis it's like Andy Dick is like this is a great show like holy [ __ ] it was like I can't believe how good everybody is and then there was a
freedom to [ __ ] around so I had the the worst case scenario and Then followed by the best case scenario yeah that's I mean you've been very fortunate on that because all my scenarios were [ __ ] up I just I mean I mean it is you just read it you like God damn who wrote this yeah give me a LLY weight on it but a comic that has to do bad lines in a sitcom isn't hell hell hell what his name oh he told me this um off of Seinfield Richards what his Michael Richards Michael Richards he said Quake you're going to be on the show you're going to have your own show but I want you to remember one thing whatever show you do you're going to be on there you're committing five years of your life if it's going to be successful you want to go there and get the same joy that you do on stage you don't want to go there 5 years of a job of hell right and I took that and I kept it so when now when I make decision I like do I see myself doing this for five years no okay I don't want to play this role for five years it's a good mindset yeah because you we all know those guys who get on a show that sucks and they they just take the money they just all they want to do is buy things they just want to like give themselves little rewards like they they're always unhappy they like I can't wait to buy a new jacket or a new car A new this or they're always just concentrating on the rewards that they get rather than the reward they get from the actual work yeah I mean because you to be honest with you you need something to justify this hell that you in you know what I mean cuz you in hell you could look at some sets and you like I would love to be in that you can look at like Martin you could tell that was a great place to go to work Living Color was a great place to go to work you know what I mean wasn't work we was all friends coming up with some [ __ ] and we just put it on tape that's what you want that's what you want but those are hard to get those are and one of the worst things that happens is some of the guys that get those sitcoms that are shitty is they can't do standup anymore because they're worried that if they do standup and they and people find out that they're dirty or they said something crazy then they'll get fired from the show right there's a lot of guys that like how to stop doing standup while
they got a sitcom because and I strongly believe this that's why a lot of them lose their fans see prime example whatever show that I do is going to be the biggest show for most of my audience to see me so that's going to be their interpretation Who I Am So I must portray who I am in my first Venture on TV yeah so I can bring my my fans who sees me who already been fans of mine they can recognize me in that and then the people who just see me for the first time could come see me on stand up and say okay that's who I got a lot of comedians like um like my boy Mark Curry had his show yeah they Mr Cooper yeah Mr Cooper good dude man then they go see Mr Cooper He's from Oakland California yeah these [ __ ] in these hoes oh my God Mr Cooper what you talking about now you elated the people who like Mr Cooper right and the people who supported you and you was the custom and the comedian see you playing Mr coopy like that ain't the mock we know right you see what I'm saying so you don't get to transfer most comedians who blow I have learned this long time play themselves in their first major production so they bring their current F and expand that expand their base and their brain bigger you know Martin playing Martin Steve Harvey playing Steve Harvey cat playing cat Eddie Murphy being Eddie Murphy all of them that blew on that now all the comedians that did other things and went into as a character actor or comedy and didn't do bring their standup with them what they was known for yeah died it's true burnt in hell and the way it is because they alienated both they alienated the people who support him to get him that point and then when they got to that point the people who just saw him for the first time wanted to go see him do stand up was insulted it's like it's the URL rule no matter what Urkle do he's always going to be URL I love Jal he can be anything but you going to see him as urk cuz that was the first person that was the first he was introduced to as urk and people always going to see him as urle now if he was a comedian he would never work again because if he was a standup comedian doing all like no that that ain't K and if you supported him you're like why you out here selling out playing this dude
like this that ain't that hard mother urles Janelle smoke herb hang out he's a real [ __ ] doesn't he sell weed now yeah he sell weed now got to kill somebody back in Family Matter they found KES out this [ __ ] I smoked some of his weed it was good I met him after the show he's telling me he grows his own weed sells weed yeah but it it'll kill somebody right now if they found out URL was selling weed it it it'll traumatized their childhood that's true yeah Mark Curry's a brilliant comic he's a brilliant comic and he's very different than he is on Hanging with Mr Cooper which is like a very family easy soft show yes it's like a nice show nice guy yes but you watch Mark Curry on stage he's a funny [ __ ] dude yes and a great guy and a great guy great guy edgy as hell so if you you into that family ABC 8:30 Hanging with Mr Cooper role model for the kids and everything you go over here say man I'm [ __ ] all these women tonight you're like oh my God I think you could say the same with Damon Way's now yeah you think so you yeah because Damon you know he had that sitcom he did for a long time and okay you don't see him doing I mean if you go to see him live you'll still see Wild comedy right but Damon's in that sort of big money sitcom world where they keep giving him these shows where he's the star of a show and he's like a dad and he's like family man and he's got the children and it's like a family sitcom it's a lot of money in those family sitcoms I know that's I'm trying to get something is that what you want to do I I I do want to have a TV show I want to do a TV I want to do more movies I'm going to do another uh do another hour I'm going to do an hour um I'm going to do another special and um tour yeah I'm going do the things write a book about my struggle yeah talk to K about that and um yeah everything that come in the make it bag for comedians you know they they call it the make it bag you get the book deal the TV show the tour the movies the fine chick you know what I mean all the [ __ ] that come with the make it bag you know you can yeah it's the make it bag I made it bag you got these are all the things that comes in it you can just pull it out you get to host everything thing and all that type
of thing pulling the comic store in the best car yeah and you just park in the back and they say yeah man you going up today n I'm just here to chill oh godd damn can I get you a drink make it bag you know can I get you a drink n yeah thank you very much give me a 18e scotch McAllen I'm just going to sit back here the the book thing is a hard one that's a that's real work M that's a lot of work yeah I had a book deal I gave the money back did you yeah I started writing chapters and they were like Well we'd like it to be more of this and we want to do do and I was like I'm good I'm going to give you the money back I can't do this like there was too much editorial control they wanted they they at one point in time they asked me to transcribe my stand up they said that's what we want to do I go what I go but people can go see it live I go if you read it it's not the same thing not at all but they were like but Jerry Seinfeld did it I go yeah well that's Jerry Seinfeld I'm not George Carlin did it I'm like well they probably needed the money they probably well Jerry didn't but maybe they did it because they thought that was a good way to do it I don't think it's a good way to do it for me I don't want to do that I well I'm going have a Ghost Rider yeah oh yeah I ain't writing at you [ __ ] out of here so what you I ain't writing that [ __ ] I'm like this what happened to me now put it in the words sit down and go over it you know I mean I'm going have a ghost right do you have like a a set of stories that you want to get out um probably as I reflect I'm a today person I live in the moment so yesterday is gone ain't nothing you can do with it ain't nothing she can do for me it's like a woman that's gone so I would have to sit back and reflect and usually for me to do it I have to be friends that made that ride with me so as they remind me oh yeah yeah that did happen put that in there yeah yeah that did oh put that in there so how would you do that will you have someone come with you on the road and just talk to them occasionally and have them write down record it well I have a literary uh person that does a lot of books that also work for me in in my comedy club so she's been trying to get me to do it for the longest and now that it's coming to fruition I'mma um allow her to be the
point person on it and um I suppli the stories and she write it all up for me so you're already in motion with this no we talked about it we've been talking about it for the last three or four years I said I would do it when the um opportunity prevents itself see I'm not that kind of person that around here I'm not a supermarket type dude please you know the test try this please would you do this this is tied 2% 2 O try it if you like it you can come over here and get the whole thing I'm Not Who going to do the deal let's do it if you don't want me I don't want you but I'm damn sure I ain't knocking on your door talking I got a book can you do it no no no so I really believe when it's your time it's your time and then it'll fall in place and that's what I'm going to do I'm now that the opportunity to present itself then I got a person that we've been talking about for the last five years that'll take care for me so that's one part of the make it bag yeah book deal yeah what's the big one is it starring in a movie is it starting a sitcom both both yes I want you know I do what you do I have a radio show you got the podcast I got to talk to you too I make it over here like you doing been watching YouTube say boy I got to talk to Joe God damn it now um yes I want to have a hit um I think I can hold the country's attention for 22 minutes if you give me a ftic situation with some actors around you know who you want to do do you have an idea who you want to do it with yeah I thought I was going to work out something with CVS but unfortunately they didn't come to fruition they played with me and um so now just out here and see what we're going to do I would like to have a network television show I would like to uh me and Donell is starring in my first lead in the movie so we got that one done put that it's called um bed written it's about a dude who's very uh arrogant womanizer and finally you know kic catch ups with him and he's uh temporar paralyzed and he's bed written and he's losing this company while he's at the same trying to see how bad he'd inflict pain to his wife and his kids and those type of things wow and uh don plays my brother on it you know and uh and we did that and we did an independent movie together for that and um I want to do
more of that and um my own sitcom around my life that kind of thing where I'm at now so around your life as a standup like yes oh like a yeah about to blow and then I finally blow and now the kids that I couldn't get to see now came and visit me and never left now they living with me oh yeah that type of thing yeah so you've been thinking about this for a while yeah we was in um development for it we got all the way up to the president of uh CBS but unfortunately he didn't see our view on it you know what I mean it's a gamble you know they have like 30 shows and they have like four slots and so they'll have to like I've been in that developmental process it's a strange process where they trying to figure out what's going to work and what's not going to work I I mean I get that too but to give a honest shot if you're going to give it to you at least got to shoot a pilot to see what you got I don't think you can sit down and say if it's good like you just said you can't tell if it's funny just off the paper no you have to sit here and um put the players involv and then look at it and say this is what you got if you honestly say that you trying to give a show and definitely if you saying you trying to have diversity on CBS you have to at some point allow you know the actors to put it on or invest enough to see what you got test it and see is it I understand the for slots but if you going to sit here and say you trying to do diversity on with the NAACP it supposed to be a slot there already supposed to be one there or at least an opportunity for it right you know what I mean so that's the that's what I come into vain it's I I never want to be anywhere that no one wants me to be but at some point in this game that we're doing you if you if you're not familiar with with the uh the the creative aspect of certain people you have to at least see it and let someone else see can this work yeah you know what I mean that's the where it is I mean I don't think anything should be killed just on the paper right there without you invested in the point to see it especially if you was part of writing it itself and you were happy with the the script and how it came out yeah I mean we um we got like writeups from the president of the network notes on it on the script
and everything and then when it came to the point of uh they said they passed up on it and it was shocking to me to the point that we didn't even get a chance to even shoot the pallet for it sometimes it's like a bunch of [ __ ] like the people that are producing it they don't have a good deal with the network or you know like sometimes the network wants to produce and own their own shows and maybe Warner Brothers will come to CBS or something and they like it but Warner Brothers owns it so they don't want Warner Brothers to make a shitload of money and CBS has their own show they' rather take that even if it's not as good there was a lot of that at NBC yeah but we was on we was coming out of CBS Studios there two CBS on there the writer had a deal already with CBS the writer and I'm already on CBS while working on the neighborhood so everything was in house you know what I mean and then we did an announcement you know saying that um it was part of the NAACP diversity to to put more on there so I was shocked about that to be quite honest with you and you know we're going to see what we going to do with it because we still on here but I do want to have a a TV show and um might end up being on nextflix so is this the last the past pilot season like Rec this just Happ this happened about a week ago I was just KN oh that's why you're so hot I'm not I mean I you know I I mean I just don't understand the process if you saying you want to include if you don't then don't you know what I'm saying if you have a if you have a uh how can I put this if you have a demographic that's happy where it is and you don't want to God bless you but don't come over here it's it's equivalent to say hey hey I do country music but country music good but I want some R&B on here I want you to come over here and play put some R&B song on our station like all right I submit the song to you and you sit down here you go over to Work N my my people don't want to hear that don't hear that we we we reconstruct the whole song around after three or four rewrites of my song on it and then I said okay when we going to go to the studio and cut the um the song and they said nah we don't like we don't like the song
you wrote the [ __ ] the I thought you said she wanted an on here do you have an opportunity to do it at Netflix cuz I I think that's the best place I don't know I mean when you know the deal we couldn't go nowhere else while we was doing it with them we thought we was there with them so free are you free I don't know what my situation is right now it just is fresh off of it I just it's just happened this Friday Netflix is exciting to me for something with you doing it because you could be yourself language subject matter no restrictions whatsoever and no commercials true commercials are [ __ ] I know they're brutal yeah they when you watch these sitcoms and they have to cut everything into these little chunks so that fits perfectly inside of a network break it just doesn't work good it's not fun it's not and then you have to sit there and watch the commercial and wait for it to come on or you record in advance you have to fast forward through it with Netflix you film the whole season you watch it all in one sitting if you want you can binge watch it you could pause it go take a [ __ ] come back start it up again you know it's like it's a better format it's just better it's better because it's uncensored it's better because the programming on Netflix is better you know we were talking about Ozark before the the uh podcast God damn that's a good show my friend uh Eric is the producer Creator really yeah he he wants to do something with us but I I want to take anywhere that they want us anywhere you want it wherever you want it you know what I mean whereever wanted to allow me to be me I have no problem with any any format do you right but if you're going to come and say you want to do us and you want me to do us then allow me to be me and and and negotiate can't say negotiate but if it is if this is what you want then come in in all good faith yeah that's all I get it you know and it was it was it was very disappointing understand it was very disappointing like a lot and we all been through cuz I think Dave done had more [ __ ] de development deals than anybody in their life oh he's a lot yeah shitloads it's just free money A lot of times free money in meetings yeah well we a get no money either no no money no we ain't they didn't give you money for
the development deal for to to put together no we ain't get no no money that's dis buny the money was that's like the fun of it I mean you no money e that what used to be like the whole thing about Montreal Comedy Festival everybody get a development deal yeah you talking about six seven figures you was like yes that money gone now Jo they don't do that anymore no wow no they sit around probably give you about 18,000 that's it tell you just s sit here thank you for your [ __ ] you know but you ain't no money and you talking about five six months and once you in negotiate with them of course you can't go to nobody else cuz you say hey man I'm I'm a had this 6 months yeah 6 months and they dangle that carrot oh they dangled that [ __ ] I was around this [ __ ] just knew I was going I was like when is the Super Bowl going to be on CVS cuz I'm going be on that [ __ ] I can't wait until they give me the plug and the teaser Quake house today 8:00 on CBS [ __ ] called me up boy they get boy they give you that call that's the worst call in the world though they found out they want to go another way another way yeah like well without even seeing it I mean you ain't invest enough to even do a pallet to see to play it I mean come on man but that's the problem that I always had with Hollywood is you have to be chosen and that's one of the things that makes people so crazy like some people don't have the mental Force fored toe to withstand that kind of rejection over and over and over again or disappointment and like if you think about what like especially with actors you get a bunch of people that are insecure that are kind of crazy to begin with and then they go to this place where they're they're asking you to pretend In This Moment like okay uh Quake you're gonna sit down with Mike and Mike is gonna play Sally so there's a guy pretending to play your wife and you're you're running through the scene with this person and they like okay well thank you uh will be in touch and then you leave you're like I don't even know how that was and like it it and you got you have to be chosen so so you start to see people behaving in a way that they think the casting agent would like true saying the kind of things they think the
casting agent wants to hear true they did they adopt the politics of the casting agents true you know they'll say some about a current event thing like my Heavens like why are we even doing this true like yes why are we doing this thing thank you Joe we agree with you and then you you feel like a piece of [ __ ] when you're you're getting a cup of coffee afterwards like what the [ __ ] is wrong with me I'm a [ __ ] hey my lips are chapped in the mother all ass I kissed trying to get this this show man I mean it was but you know I never take it personal cuz again like my mother said you can't get mad at somebody that ain't going to let you [ __ ] with that [ __ ] you know what I mean at the point it's I and people ask me all the time you know like Quake my fans say it to me Quake you're the funniest [ __ ] why you ain't got no TV show why you ain't got no movies I said Ain like I turned the [ __ ] down right ain't like I said hey yeah I don't want to be on CBS I'd rather be in lacklin Florida or somewhere else and but is but it's subjective what's funny to somebody is not funny to another so I always the way I took it is that I just haven't made the right person laugh yet who that will believe in me to sit here and give me the opportunities that my peers didn't have and until I break that person who believes in me that sees that I am a valuable commodity that could do both both me and them a great service and what they say they're here to make entertainment and TV shows then I will always be sitting at the door with this [ __ ] and it it it was you know and I don't even take it personally man I'm so [ __ ] used to it I try not to put myself out there you know I so you feel the pain so you don't feel the pain cuz disappointment is the worst thing for me I rather not have it yeah than to be disappointed you know what I mean so in the future the next one that I do unless they come to me and say hey we going to put you to Series this what we get but it ain't going to no more stringing along you're not going to be sitting around here with we together and then give me a call at 12:00 on a Friday night and like Noah well when you've been doing it as long as you have too it's like and you develop an audience the way you have it's like you don't want to [ __ ] with that anymore but
you're always wanting that thing that you didn't have yeah yeah but it's a it to me to be honest with you it's just expanding what I am already is I hold people attention for an hour I know I can do it with 22 minutes with a lot of people playing in the fous world and on It come on God damn and it shows that it work that's why you have so many reality show that's killing your scripted shows yes because your ftiti world you bring it up don't nobody buy this you understand what I'm saying don't buy it so and definitely if you don't know about that world you at least have to see it so you can see it test it as a CEO of anything yeah to expand your own brand if I if I owned a record a and I I I want some country singers I'm going to get somebody to know about country singers and I'm like is that good okay that's good when I own a comedy club I used to tell people all the time I don't book The Comedians the crowd do and it's not my job to find is he funny or not do he pull the people in and they laugh then that's what it is how I feel is irrelevant yeah if I I would prefer my friend to be up here but if my friend is only bringing 10 people and Shucky Ducky is bringing 200 Shucky Ducky quack-quack is coming on through here yeah regardless if I think my friend is funnier than Shucky Ducky because I have to sit here and make a decision based upon what the fans and what the consumer wants and you have to evolve that's the great thing I say about rap is they always had a person like um Russell Simmons p uh P Diddy puffy they was able to talk to the radio the record labor say listen we got what you need don't come down here and mess with our artist cuz you'll never understand it right either trust me give me the money and I'll bring you back the results yes but don't you come into the rec Booth don't you come in the booth and say he shouldn't say that that ain't how it is he don't understand do you want to win or you don't want to win we in comedy has never had a puffy we have never had of Russell Simmons we had a Walter leam and he did the Kings of Comedy and all them brothers came out and became stars but he got upset cuz he think he supposed to go farther with him so he never did a king of comedies 2 three
four and five he just shut the [ __ ] down and didn't let nobody else play King put King on nothing else no more he came back with another tour and called it the Walter L them present I was on it and I was like present what don't nobody know you don't nobody know you man don't you should call this king of comedy too right we has already had brand recognition so we could continue on but you still mad at them brothers cuz they elevated and didn't go that way so what you going to do all the people no because we never had a person didn't want to be us but I mean him imagine that that kind of ego you're getting to work with these amazing comedians you put together this huge hit but you don't feel like you're getting enough attention exactly he did us and I swear to God Joe he did it with me Bruce Bru uh Ricky Smiley a lot of he had us all surrounding him and he was in the middle holding his head like his hand yeah on the poster and advertising so yeah so Bruce Bruce said I just want to know how much time the [ __ ] in the middle going to do you know what I mean I ego ego so I'm I'm sitting here yeah Dad look at that [ __ ] look he's in the middle Lon present all new DL some more me Bruce Bruce Jay Anthony Brown and Ricky Smiley he will not name that the Kings because of what the relationship was with them oh that's crazy he didn't like how it turned out no so make sure he get the the claim Walter Leon presents and I said who in the [ __ ] is want the late nobody know who you are man see I ain't had these bricks you had the people say yeah you should let them do this good is you had this kind of [ __ ] well my hope for you is that this Netflix special which I think is undeniable it's so good I think Netflix opens the door that's what I think I think that's the smart thing to do because look this special is gonna be killer and then you having a sitcom on Netflix is natural that's easy it's better yeah it's better it'll be real yeah you could say whatever the [ __ ] you want yeah they'll let you [ __ ] around like Netflix leaves you the [ __ ] alone when you do a special that's it's beautiful I've I've done two specials with them three specials with them they just leave you the [ __ ] alone they never
say anything to me and they take care of you yeah care I ain't got no mo I ain't got no Monique problem over here it was good yeah they take care of you and they leave you alone they leave you alone they just like they trust that you're funny they go when you going to when you going to record it okay we'll go watch they'll they're there to watch and then like when's it going to be delivered September perfect okay it'll it'll air in [ __ ] November or whatever it is and and it's nothing they don't there's no involvement in the creative process which is beautiful because I had to deal with Comedy Central and I they had to make a transcript to my set and then I had a phone call with them and dur in the phone call the transcript they go well you can't say that you they got to the third you can't say that I go stop I'm good I'm done I quit and they like what I go I'm not doing this I'm not doing this with you guys right like I'm not doing this I'm like this is not happening eventually went on to do one a couple years later but but there was no problems with that material back then they' kind of changed when streaming came along too because they realized they kind of had to open up their content a little bit more because they were losing Comics they're losing people to Netflix and losing people to HBO and Showtime and places where could just be free do you feel that Netflix is what HBO used to be with uh um bigger bigger bigger bigger it's bigger than HBO what HBO was was there was only HBO The thing about HBO is it's still around like there's still guys who do HBO specials and they're still great but what Netflix is is you could watch it any [ __ ] time you want true you can watch on your phone you can watch it at I mean I know that HBO has HBO what is it Max HBO Max yeah which is great right but it's crazy Netflix it's a beast and it's Global it's Global it's a jugernaut that what Dave told me he's like man you don't even understand you going to be raking in money I say please let that come Jesus it's easy for you to say while you sitting on it but please let it come well a guy like you one of the Beautiful Things is you could turn over an hour quick yeah so you do this special the special comes out and then you can do another one in a year oh I will yeah I'm working on it right now
that's what I'm talking about no I'm I'm it's going to be better than this one right here cuz now I see it go get this stomach off and I'm going go and get ready for it and that's all I'm thinking about from that point on I told Dave when I I say all right man we GNA follow this up with this this ow on it he was like yeah I said yeah man and he he was the one told me don't even try to get a TV show really yeah cuz I was um he wanted to Executive produce my TV show and I was talking to him he was like listen man you only even want to go down there bro and um just go be the top comedian for a year smell the roses after you drop this be the top comic then come back like no no no I want to be on TV I want to do this TV you want that make it bag I want to make it bag I want that goddamn make it bag you know the thing is man when something like that has been in the distance for so long and you can now you can grab that bit I thought I was so close too you don't every day get to talk to the president in network you like boy I know I'm man and you like I'm think I'm but it just didn't come to fruition and everything happens for a reason but boy I thought I was close I swear you couldn't tell me a damn thing Joe I just knew it was going to happen oh it was going to happen I was I was I you couldn't tell me that it was I tell you Quake I think it's for the best I I do I know it' be great to have that but I think you'd be better on on Netflix and I think you're your I think your special's going to be gigantic and I think from there you doing an even bigger special in a year from now you're going to be like thank God I didn't do that corny ass [ __ ] CVS [ __ ] have to [ __ ] up my jokes and change the subjects and change [ __ ] that [ __ ] that man you're too good you're too good for Network TV it was it was it was a it was a blow it was I ain't going to lie to it it was it was it was it was it was it was it was I can tell it oh yeah and it's it's fresh fresh yeah it was a week ago on a Friday night it's terrible but it's for the best yeah I believe that I really do I think there's not there's not a lot of guys are as funny as you you you're at this Elite level of stand-up comedy where me personally as a comic but more importantly as a fan of Comedy I love Excellence I love when
someone achieves this level of Harmony with the audience and the material and the delivery and the years and years of Performing and the Polish of the boom boom boom boom I mean that special is just one after the other the Bang Bang Bang the pauses are perfect the time in between the jokes is perfect it's beautiful man that's what I like [ __ ] a sitcom [ __ ] sitcom you can say that man you SM yeah you didn't had them and you Spotify you over here nice [ __ ] them [ __ ] they can't call me you call me I'll start laughing like what do you want I know you I know you laugh I'll be over that [ __ ] I forgive you look I forget you let's do it again you I think you doing a sitcom anywhere other than Netflix or even HBO or somewh where they just let you be free it's a it's a a travesty I think your your material is too you're you're too edgy you you go out there you you talk you say risky [ __ ] and that's beautiful that's what I love you know what I really wanted to play though the black Archie Bunker oh oh someone needs to the black aie bunker that's what I wanted to it's amazing that no one has I I mean cuz a black guy can pull it off oh yeah the right one I I could pull it off oh I could pull that off I'm talking about talking about the show I mean the black Arie bun oh yes oh man I boy the things that I wrote for this show for the black we have that and the black aunie bunker is what I would love to play that right there well red fox kind of did that a little bit with red with Fred sford yeah just uh I wanted to higher note just on on on on on red fox that kind of way yeah exactly well as a fan of Comedy I'm I'm hoping that you don't get any sitcom and I'm hoping if you do it's going to be on n and I'm hoping you just go on to do hour after hour after hour I think cuz your your your ability to turn over material is extraordinary and your ability to write is extraordinary and I think that that's just you you just you have these chops that very few people develop you you don't get a chance you don't get a chance to hit that level of of Excellence as a comic it's just not how many guys get through it like how many of us are there let's talk about that is there even a thousand of us on Earth no probably not if you want to be honest
like a real headliner how many of us yeah there might be 500 of us on Earth on Earth there's a million doctors in America alone yeah how many Comics are there real ones real ones guys can go up there and light a room on fire yes maybe maybe a few hundred it's hard to get there yeah it is so when someone gets there like you I want you to stay there I mean I want you to get everything everything you want I want you get all the accolades and all the money and all the the make it back but [ __ ] that zom you sound just like Dave you know that I can tell both of y'all that's why I love him yeah you and Dave the same that's the same thing he told me before I even did my D [ __ ] that you don't need that cuz Dave and I what you want we both have [ __ ] you money yeah yeahall do that's what it is and I got if I don't work God damn it I'm in trouble money but that keeps you hungry and sharp there something about that too man there there's something beautiful about that too it's beautiful it is and I I just want to exper but see that in in my defense y'all both had successful TV shows 100% y'all both have already achieved that feather in your cap you know I developed the ability to say [ __ ] you because of Fear Factor yes you will I got that Fear Factor money and then I was like oh I'm free now I'm free and then I just I just I wouldn't listen to anybody anymore yeah and that's when I started doing the yeah and and look at you yeah listen man I watch you I that's what I was going to call you like all right man how do I cuz I my show is on Kevin hunts and um it's on serious right it's on serious right here and I I watch you how much longer are you doing it on that I do onee deals that's good I only do one year deals well this is my my thought on that like first of all being connected to Kevin Hart is a blessing it's amazing thing he's an amazing guy but the problem with something like Sirus is it's limited to people who have Sirius true which is a lot a lot of people but it also doesn't work in a tunnel right you know it's weird like the satellite thing is weird true you know it's the internet is better like you don't want I don't want to tune in when it's on I want to get it whenever the [ __ ] I want it I want to download it before I get on a plane you know I want if I'm going to listen to a
podcast I want to listen to it when I'm running I want to press start when I want you know and that's the beauty of the internet and the satellite was amazing when it came along because when it came along it was uncensored it's like all of a sudden you have this uncensored medium that's basically like when Howard Stern went over to Sirus it was a giant thing because here you got this guy who's the greatest uncensored radio personality ever everybody says that he's the guy opened up the doors for everybody like me and now now he can be uncensored now he now he can go wild he doesn't have to worry about the government like people forget the government was coming out after Howard Stern yes they were FCC was finding them hundreds of thousands of dollars every time he would say things that are easy now now what all those things that he said are nothing comparison to things we say every day but back then it was a big [ __ ] deal and he was the guy that got arrested or got in trouble rather ued he was the guy who broke down all the doors just like guys like Richard PRI and Lenny Bruce and George Carlin got arrested for material he was in trouble he was in trouble for talking but the internet doesn't have any of those restrictions like if your show that you're doing on Kevin Hart's thing you just take it to the podcast World it'll be [ __ ] huge too I never understood the background and everything had to do with podcast but I knew everybody had one I said what the hell going on it's just talking [ __ ] and you're a master at that yeah that's what it is yeah I was like everybody got [ __ ] podcast but um and I did radio uh and regular radio and that was went well I wanted to be like Steve and get syndicated in 90 cities you know terrestrials already y but them mother ain't let me do it either so I said I ain't come to New York to be number one I want to be heard all throughout the country right and it was WBLS so I tried that so I always did radio but I never UND what it was with the podcast and then when I heard about you I was like God damn it send me to school and then when I saw you when we was on tour I was like Joe I need to talk to you listen you
could do it you can do it 100% listen you're you're interested in people you're interesting you You're great at talking to people it's that's all the elements and and then all you have to do is just get used to it just get used to doing it it'll be oh your podcast will be J antic but God damn it I'm going to have to do that too do it yeah man I'll help you I'll promote it godamn it I'll that on tape cut that send it to the real earthquake I 100% on here get it done what it happening though but yeah I did want it to be on T whatever you do I'm in the earthquake business I'll be happy to promote whatever you do well thank you man and I and you have supported me cuz I asked you I said hey man doing this special with Dave before we did it whenever I get to do it like no problem come on down and here we are yeah you a man of your word I am I am but I've been singing your Praises for a long [ __ ] time as as do everybody else all the comics and you're you are a Comics comic and so for me as a fan of the art form I'm very excited to watch you pop I love I love the fact that you got this Netflix special coming out thank you man so today is uh it's going to be February 28th it comes out so February 28th Netflix you know what to do people please please please and follow me at the real earthquake please it's at the real earthquake and U thank you my brother my pleasure my pleas pleasure is all mine man anytime all right bye everybody see you [Music]