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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all [Music] day an audience with the Pod father ladies and gentlemen the original the OG without him we would not be here Adam Curry ladies and gentlemen Joe Rogan I have much man love for you my much man love for you much man love for you if it wasn't for you this business would not exist well you the you're the [ __ ] patient zero my brother I appreciate you saying that it's true without you needs to know it without you holy [ __ ] I wouldn't have been recertified someone needed to know you know it's like highly appreciated man go through the archives without you this is you are the one how how's Texas treating you it's been one is it 2 years no no no it's a year and a half year and a yeah year and a half you like it [ __ ] it good kids everybody loves it good love the people here I love everything I love the fact that it gets cold it's cold out today I love the changing of the weather I love the [ __ ] animals everywhere you have actual Seasons people don't know that we got Seasons here oh Texas gets cold as [ __ ] it was in the 20s last night uh when I left Hill Country this morning 18 yeah it's woo 18 with some wind factor yeah yeah when it snowed out here last year I was like okay now you didn't lose power right no we got lucky we got lucky you're on the rich side I was on the east side they lost their [ __ ] my friend's way richer than me he lost his power oh really where was he he's on uh in uh West Lake I guess yeah oh yeah okay West Lake but I I'm we were Southeast before man that sh where the where the section8 apartments are I should have got turned off right away yeah we got a generator now because of that it was a little sketchy ours is getting installed next week yeah house generator you know it's it's nice to have food too you know I always have food stockpiled cuz I'm a Hunter you know so I got to I got to tell you man food intelligence is is has got to be the buzzword for the next couple of years food intelligence is a good buzzword because people well first of all just look at us you know postco or Omicron now whatever we're pretty sick people Americans are pretty unhealthy yeah overall in general yeah
for sure it's a it's a real problem and it's we've let it slide we don't know what we're eating anymore we just don't and you know there's a lot of things happening with food the the and you'll appreciate this the meat processors they have no intention of really continuing actual beef and other real meat they are all moving towards processing soy Etc creating I can't believe it's not Burger the fake meat the fake really all of them are doing that all of them but isn't that stock down in that Beyond Burger stuff or beyond meat stuff you got it's much so those are just the brands but go look at really the the food process there's only a couple of them uh we have um JBS I think the biggest one is cargou I love talking about carg because they're like a secretive family the kind of like succession oh that's or like or like the sackers the same thing the which one's the sackers Purdue Pharma okay who you know have helped kill 100,000 people at least this year this year this year right by the way isn't it interesting that did you uh on Hulu there's a fantastic uh series dop sick I've heard about it have not watched it yet great about Michael Keaton produced it so kudos to him what's great about it is it shows how corrupt the FDA is how all the systems work how evil this family was unfortunately it feels a lot like okay we've dealt with it the sackers are done you know they paid 56 billion dollars no one's in jail if you look at the actual fines Johnson and Johnson they paid $25 billion in fines they did because they were four times as worse the backers are just being pushed aside as okay those are the [ __ ] they did it but meanwhile 100,000 people ODed on from opioids I was under the impression I guess I'm wrong that the biggest uh one was fizer wasn't the biggest one the biggest fine fizer for a while for that uh anti-inflammatory drug that's different but we're talking about opioids specifically oh so that's not like just pharmaceutical company finds it's specific this is just opioids yeah okay so they find people for lying about pharmaceutical drugs and then find people it's a different thing to like a different categorization cuz they were saying that that was the biggest fine for like medical stuff what are we looking at 5 billion Landmark 26 billion
opioid settlement yeah who so but it sounds like more people were involved then if Johnson and Johnson's paying 5 billion who's the other what's where's the rest of the 11 million coming from well I don't know I don't know what this article is 21 million coming from but I believe Johnson and Johnson paid much more so so there's two there's two parts to it one is the pharmaceutical companies that were developing it and then um oh it it says it right here cuz remember they said it was non-addictive right right right that that was the problem and so when you continue to push that and they were saying oh it's not working up the dose all of that was a problem but also Walmart CVS and Wallgreens they were they're now being fined for basically over overselling just being pill Mills just legal drugs Joe just legal heroin being distributed to unwilling people or un unwitting people so it's saying that um this was this was the whole fine so it looks like Johnson Johnson paid five and then there was another 21 when's this article from Jamie July I I'm not saying this is the whole thing either but this is just from July but I'm pretty sure Johnson and Johnson want pay 25 billion in total okay but let's just read this just just for the heck of it and then we'll figure figured out it just says under the settlement proposal the three largest US drug Distributors massen Corp Cardinal Health and America Source Bergen that's all one word for some strange reason America Source Bergen one word Corp are expected to pay a combined 21 billion while drug maker Johnson and Johnson which manufactures opioids would pay 5 billion so that was well the sackers aren't even in here so something is missing from this and uh and that's Purdue Pharma they took the fall for sure they got the Ser they got the Hulu series everything they took the fall and now it's just like it's over no one's talking about it anymore but the problem still exists it's there's a there's this term that everybody uses today right and it's uh influencer you know it's a term that they use for like social media people that sell sneakers and you know people that are doing certain things they become influencers yes and uh but the biggest influencer is what is what's in the news and what's accepted
like what we tolerate is the big influencer and the people that get to control like what seems normal like if your doctor's like hey Adam you've got a bad back let's just accept it and let's deal with the pain and then he's got you hooked on this stuff and you can't get off and you're literally sick your body's shaking like who's responsible for that is it the company that talked the doctor into doing that as a doctor for not looking into it enough and just accepting that people are fine just going out and getting whacked out on on pill form heroin I think you have to go back much further you have to go back towards when uh modern medicine got funding so this is when we had the homeopaths and then we had the allopaths and the alop pass got all the money mainly from uh Rockefellers and a couple of other the big The Big Rich families of the day um and that all kind of came to a head very quickly there's a a couple of great documentaries about the cure for cancer and how many entrepreneurial doctors even uh one rancher in in Texas had really figured it out they I think his Clinic still operates in Mexico people go there and it's exactly the opposite uh treatment of what the the Alo the alpath medicine is which is you know basically try and kill all the cells and hope you survive it you know with or you know with radiation or chemotherapy so once we went down that route it was very easy for the families to say okay we're going to establish universities where we teach this which is not necessarily the look at the whole person what's what is the person eating Etc it's like diagnose the problem prescribe the medication so this is a problem that has been here um it's throughout the system there's no education it's it's all it's all just that's what it is don't you think no education is a big one and don't you think it also is a function of doctors having these ridiculous student loan bills and they get out of of school and they're in debt hundreds of thousands of dollars sometimes it's capture and then they're in this system where they're trying to get people in and out of their office as quick as possible it's capture yeah a really good doctor should be sitting down with you and talking to you for a long time you're we're we're
you're trying to figure out what's wrong with your body the idea that he could do that in 15 20 minutes and just write a thing so you're suicidal now because of that one okay let's throw that one away we're going to give you this one Adam I think this might do the trick and next thing you know you're on this new thing and well we're in a good in a good place now I think in in the United States the rest of the world I'm not so sure but um we're we're very entrepreneurial yes and I mean the French had to make up a word for us you know it's like we're so entrepreneurial and we're in a I think a big decentralization moment where um people are leaving uh big Tech platforms and that's going off towards more decentralized smaller things that interconnect in some way um travel is actually starting to unravel you know we're getting new technology new new aircraft will be much cheaper for smaller groups to and more effective to fly in but also medicine we're seeing uh a lot of healthc care workers nurses doctors leaving the Systems and off-the-shelf Technology doing their own t tele medicine um Ker's healthc care where they only take 500 patients from the community charge them 150 100 bucks a month um and and as much time as you need or as often as you need you know and really they build up a profile like like doctors should do functional medicine is a part of this so this is this is happening across the schooling parents are taking their kids out of school they're creating their own Schools they're doing homeschooling um that's been going on for a while with Charter Schools but I think we'll see even more smaller Community schooling everything is decentralizing we're moving away the smart people I think we're moving away from every the big box stores you know it's like people are going people are literally getting sick from the [ __ ] in there literally literally getting sick from the [ __ ] that's being sold there so people are are going back and I think that you know coming back to food food intelligence uh China right now is hoarding grain they they Supply 60% of the world's grain they've been hoarding it for a while actually maybe a year and a half two years so we're going to have a shortage uh a global shortage the the meat processors they're not Ed in really
using livestock anymore it's just a lot more profitable and we're training people you know oh now it's an amazing thing and you know um uh is it Burger King or um someone just came out with you know new soy McNugget nuggets um you know we're being kind of pushed into this and all we know is we put it in our face it has the same texture taste the right way and um and the profits are much better so we're that's where people are starting to reach out and say well you know why don't I go go meet a Rancher one day and you know and uh and a local processor it's not USDA they can't get that but in Texas you're allowed to sell you know your meat directly uh without USDA stamp one of the few States um vegetables all this stuff we're going to have to figure it out because we're going to have shortages I think we're going to have some serious food shortages it'll be weird like bread might not show up or something else will happen but we're going to have shortages well we have a bunch of problems right one of the big ones is large population centers aren't self- sustainable entirely not no yeah they they need food shipped into them they need which is really Foods in h it's really weird if you think about the size of like a New York City it's enormous right there so many people there's a building it's a perfect place because the buildings are stacked on top of each other and everything is like like when you're there you're like there so much [ __ ] so much [ __ ] energy in this place but like nothing's I mean very little is getting grown in terms of food mhm very little definitely not enough to sustain it so you got to keep shipping things in so you got to keep the roads good cuz you're always just bringing things in on boats and bringing things in on trucks everything has to come in I mean uh when you the one of the cool things about like watching a video about a really good restaurant is seeing them going to meet the fish as the fish are coming in off the boats and like everything has to get there someone's got to deliver something they got to go to the farmers market and get these big crates from someone way the [ __ ] away who grew the food we used to have a fish market uh you know which became very
popular to live uh you know in uh in New York it literally was the the fish market and the [ __ ] came in the guys were slicing [ __ ] up and moving it out in the middle of the night it was a dangerous place to be lots of hookers in that neighborhood it was cool as [ __ ] and now it's like you know $3 million one one-bedroom apartments there those are hard men that filet fish all day oh yeah those are hard [ __ ] men yeah it's very hard that is a hard job that's a real [ __ ] job and you're seeing that too you know kids are looking around and their parents are saying you know maybe not go to college maybe go to Vocational School learn learn learn a trade there plenty of be entrepreneurial yeah seeing a lot of that so you're uh you're an optimist always always that's good because there's a lot of people that share your perspective that there's some serious [ __ ] things that are wrong and I wanted to talk to them about like the grain thing first of all I did not I've never heard the China grain thing I only learned it recently myself yeah it's uh what is it says according to data from the US Department of Agriculture China's expected to have 69% of the globe's maze reserves I like how they use the Native American term maze it's so it's like Cinema it's maze it's not corn it's so open-minded uh in the first half of crop year 2022 60% of its rice and 51% of its wheat yeah here's my thing you can keep all that [ __ ] cuz it's not good for you anyway how about that well this is another thing can we stop with the rape seed oil and canola oil already that shit's not good for you right that is industrial sludge brother and everyone's cooking with it it's in everything yeah the market cuz it's rape seed oil but now we call canola oil the marketing has been fantastic seed is a rough word to sell for health conscious folk have you had any rape seed well I feel like it when I've had it yeah it's um there's a a well-known fact that um there's too much grain in a lot of people's diets yeah in terms like people that eat bread all day and pasta and like come on like that's not something you should have all day like that do do you use animal fat for cooking what do you use for cooking beef Tallow okay cuz most you know there was a I think a scop basically on the American people like oh that's going to
kill you you can't have uh you can't use uh uh protein uh uh beef protein for your fat for cooking why because they wanted what you just have to people are ask money I use avocado oil too sometimes it's got a high answer is money it's always money I mean look it's great stuff rape seed and more and more farmers are being incentivized in the United States to grow the last Harvest what is what exactly does those processed seed oils do that's bad to you because there's a lot of people that are like hardcore on it like Paul saladino is very hardcore on it Rob Wolf's very hardcore on it I believe I hope I'm not misrepresenting his position but I think a lot of those guys think you should avoid those kind of fats like those kind of th those processed seed oils well here's what I know the process is number one right I've learned this from my buddy Texas slim that's a great name yes well and he kind of came out of semi-retirement he's a little bit young he's about our age a little younger um to start the beef initiative and so he's setting it up so people are getting connected with you know just basically with directly with farmers and food and you know using Bitcoin as kind of the common Network but more importantly he's writing and educating people um uh about food and one of the most compelling Arguments for me he said look at pictures of my cuz he's a 12th generation Texan or something said look at pictures of my great great grandparents how do they look you know they they got some shitty ass clothes on but they look pretty good yeah now now go to Houston how do people look now so what's the difference people used to live off of beef in Texas um you know it's not a great place to to grow you know seeds but we have the original seeds the ones that aren't you know genetically modified the the the be you know the the cattle manure that fertilize the ground not using artificial stuff you know you know whatever you need to to hyper grow stuff and we looked much better and now go to Houston everyone's obese so you know it's got to be at the intake it's got to be at the input it's not just don't you think there's a lot of people around here in particular very active a lot of people exercise a lot of young people but people aren't that
healthy looking even in Austin it's not all that great no no I don't think so I don't think so there's certain places that everybody looks pretty fit like Boulder Colorado is one of them you walk around like everybody looks like they hikes well they do they hik they do they actually do they mountain bike they hike they do like like a active family that has one of them things on the roof you know those things the one of those you're active you know they store their [ __ ] in that little it's all aerodynamic and stuff yeah like yeah just in case they want to bust out the tent it's up there it's up there just yeah we get trapped in the woods Boulder man that's bold that's a big thing with Boulder like everybody looks pretty fit not everybody obviously buddy of mine EMT in Boulder and you know they were where they live in areas right near where that uh the fire happened the recent fire uh you know that was massive huge fire and so he went off to work he was off you know saving [ __ ] and then his wife was packing up the car cuz he figured they might have to go and of course they're in Boulder so she packs everything and throws the skis in just in case just in case just in case might want to go skiing when you're running from a fire D hold on hold on got to get the skis in you got your boots yeah it's fantastic super love that yeah so people in Europe or they walk around more right isn't that the idea like why Europeans are a little healthier they walk around more than us and then there's also the original wheat which has not been apparently this is from mayard I'm not I'm not sure if this is accurate but mayard uh Kean from tul you know he actually runs a he has restaurants and he also has his own Vineyard and he knows a lot about growing things and and his osteras serve pasta and he was telling me that what the difference is is the original wheat was like a lower yield it was a smaller plant and so they eventually manipulated it until it's what we have today which is like has much more what he said complex gluten in it that's where our bodies have harder times digesting them and then on top of the fact that corn syrup is so prevalent that's so prevalent we're putting processed sugar and corn syrup and all that stuff into everything and and people are drinking sugary sodas all day
they taste delicious but the amount of calories in those things is [ __ ] crazy and it's crazy calories where your body doesn't understand it like where are you getting all this sugar it's like all of a sudden something comes in in a rush and a drink give me more give me more give me more someone's explaining this to me that sugar in a drink form is so wild because it's not like anything you would ever experience in nature and they were thinking about like they were saying think about it like if you ate like a bunch of fruit like all that Sugar that's in that fruit it's gonna take a while to chew it it's attached to fiber now you're mainlining the sugar right down your system throwing it down and it's a stupid amount like what is the amount let's guess let's take a guess what is the amount of sugar that's in a 7-Eleven Big Gulp in a Big Gulp a Big Gulp 50 grams yeah I'm going to say 65 65 grams now of course the problem is and the reason why it's in grams no one in America can [ __ ] understand how much that is how many ounces I mean how many tablespoons is that Joe why you giving me metric Jamie Jamie what is it I don't even understand 65 G 91 91 ounces gr oh my God 91 gram and how how many oun in in American weight 91 M oh my God give me the Mega mass of that [ __ ] oh my god dude that's so how could we be so off that is so much yeah you're not supposed to have that much in a week a Big Gulp is 32 o what are you supposed to like what is like a reasonable obviously it changes depending upon your your body's I I have almost no sugar but I mean just you get some in fruits and some in milk and suon some different things I'm trying to gain weight it's really hard for me have to drink protein shakes and [ __ ] it's you're an ectomorph is if that's real you know what that means sound sounds like something from outer space so I kind mphs there's mesomorphs endomorphs and ectomorphs okay what does an ectomorph do an ectomorph is a a long thinner person that usually has uh a harder time putting weight on I don't know if this has been I got to be real clear about this I remember reading this but I don't know if this has been disproven right and like uh a mesomorph is uh like a Vander holy field like someone with like perfect proportions like a narrow waist big shoulders like a Vander hfield is a
mesomorph and I'm more like more endomorph I'm like wide and short whoa here we go endomorph see I'm more like endomorph where can you show me where on the body you were touched Joe can you point to the spot you look better than the guy on the far left but that's that's your neomorph your Long Tall I'm the guy on the left yes yeah it's not you're really you though dude you're much better looking you're a little more like that you're beautifully proportion with no not yeah the guy up there in the middle one no no the yeah that one that one you're more like that no I'm not more like that tall tall and long but listen it's not it's just um what was what was my point about oh you you can't gain weight but Sugar's not you don't want to do it that way anyway if you want to gain weight you got to hire a trainer really yeah a food trainer no a lifting trainer really yeah you want to gain weight you want to get jacked not really you should but but I I know I know it would look better if I if I weigh more I don't think you should get jacked honestly I'm joking around also got a dog so I'm walking 2 miles a day oh that's nice yeah do it with a weight weight vest on try that a weight vest yeah walking the dog MH walking dog with like a started you just start light like 10 lb 10B weight vest is a bulletproof vest okay too yeah I got one of those those are heavy weigh it's more than 10 lb yeah the idea is uh you know you're putting more load in your system and so walking is really good for you but walking with a weight vest on is really good for there was a guy in New York Jack the whack he was a DJ uh at Z100 when I was working there on week Jack The Wack Jack and the whack everybody c w 100 that they had radio personalities oh yeah back when we had radio and Jack was 350 lb and I was at the station for 6 months or so and I came in it's like 7 o'clock at night I'm like what the [ __ ] is Jack that's me and he just gone just completely deflated said how did you do that he says walking so what do you mean yeah wow every single time I put the set of songs on which runs about 8 minutes I just walk around the office building that's crazy and then they come back he do a break walk around the office building and he did that for 6 months
and he lost you know two 250 lbs of [ __ ] CR well that's insane good for him I believe I believe in Walking I believe in Walking I love that I love when someone does something like that and I see it in myself I'm walking like [ __ ] I'm losing weight I got to eat more I definitely need to eat more I for but you don't need to eat more if you're losing weight from walking it's you're probably burning off stuff that you don't need probably bur I forget to eat do you really sometimes that's not possible I'm the opposite I wish I me forget to eat Joe not for a lot of people gives them the munchies I get yeah I get the munchie thing and then like dude I eat so much I eat so much food sometimes I just I'm such a glutton I'm sometimes I just keep eating I just stuff my face see I can't imagine that I can't I can't imagine that that just Mak I I just stop oh my God I love food I love too stuff enough of it into my fat [ __ ] face this is an interesting admission no it's [ __ ] I've talked about it many many many times on the podcast it's when I start eating I consume enormous amounts of food like I almost feel like I'm starving like sometimes when I go to eat I'm I feel so hungry that I just want I want to order three or four meals and eat them all and I've eaten two meals before many times especially after shows if I work like if I lift weights that day and then we do two shows and then we go to dinner I'm ordering two steaks I eat so much food wow I just can't stop eating we have you and I have a very different relation ship with food my number one problem is pasta man if I I start eating pasta I get bloated and my stomach sticks out and I grow love handles like if I get on a steady pasta diet of like uh four or five weeks in a row where I'm just [ __ ] up I will it it goes straight Italian on me it's all those those [ __ ] jeans of mine oh man they [ __ ] it it'll go right to you it's always like the the gut in the love handles first it's like oh boy and it's also just feeling like [ __ ] I just never feel good when I eat a lot of pasta I always feel good when I'm eating like lean meat some you know with some fat some healthy fat like grass-fed fat like grass-fed um RI eyes are probably the best example that they're so good so good for you cuz it's got such a different texture than the grain
fit too there's more chew to it but it's still there's a there's a taste you're eating a healthier animal just taste like an animal is supposed to taste I love a like a cornfed steak too they they still taste great but they're they're not the same it's not the same it's not the same no at all that grass-fed is a healthier animal it's the way the animal you to be careful you know I learned from Texas SL you got to be careful just like there'll be words on it like grass-fed and it could literally be like three Blades of grass in a pen you know there's all kinds of technicalities on labeling that is such [ __ ] what's [ __ ] is when they you know they don't tell you that they finish them with grain that's some some places they feed them grass until like a couple months before they're going to whack them and then they just give them corn and fatten them up and and they're really going so far with the technology of this [ __ ] you know where they're they're putting sensors on the cattle and you know and monitoring direct input of grain into their system based but it's also based upon supply and demand um where we're going I truly think is that you know people are so obsessed with their with their watches their smart watches their caloric intake their heart rate all these things all these sens type and we're also happy to give it up we give up a lot of information just your phone itself tells a lot about how you walk your gate can be determined from your phone all kinds of stuff data about us um it's very possible that in a future uh which could you know could be closer than you think food is produced at the at the processors which literally will be making processed food that'll be tailored to you just to kind of keep you functional enough and keep you going yeah with the nutrients that you need and kind of keep you in a in a matrix-like world just kind of a state of I'm just existing I'm just kind of doing my thing whatever I'm told to do I I think that would be you know I think there's there's some some actual thought about that no I think so too it's s it's sad but that's all our fault because we can decide just to not do it out you know whenever we say it's our fault like what is that you know it's silly Adam
Curry Joe Rogan if we don't convert the world it's our fault look we [ __ ] up we let all the idiots get on the school boards and in city councils I wasn't paying attention a lot of people aren't paying attention no and I I feel bad about that they get scared now when you see all these Tik toks these crazy people that are teachers you're like oh my God but crazy people they just parents Joe well some of them are I think a lot of them are no no no no lot we're talking about different things the Tik Tok things a different actual actual teachers teachers telling the class oh I'm coming out as lesbian and all that St it's always like these children need to respect my my non-binary status if I get misgendered what I the way I correct them and they like you usually like a lot of them like Libs of Tik Tok has a whole series of them some of them are just insane people that are now teaching your kids and not saying it's insane to be non-binary I'm saying it's insane to have this level of narcissism where you're declaring to the internet how you deal with a seven-year-old that's misgendering you like this is well well look at what the mechanisms are they don't say they them the seven-year-old has to learn they them is that real no look at the mechanisms it's what's controlling this it's the Tik Tok it's the algorithm it's the it's the it's the phone we put in our we put in our kids hands did you are you aware of uh I was having a conversation with a couple friends of mine about this the other day the uh the shanana swan book The Shan Dr Shanah Swan she's a um she's an environmental epidemiologist I believe is that what uh her actual title is wrote this book that I always forget the name of it countdown thank you and it's all about chemicals did you have her on the show she blew me away blew me away it's all about chemical atrazine yep that's one of them for sure um phalates delates are a big one and what she was essentially saying was what we're dealing with is uh like a biological crisis what like from the introduction of petrochemicals into the the human diet these phalates have caused some weird alterations of our reproductive systems people are way less fertile women are uh more prone to having miscarriages men have lower sperm
count and men have all demonstrably true yes and men have smaller taints now this is where the conversation went people started laughing at me I'm like I know it sounds crazy well I'm I'm I'm I thought it was doing pretty well until you brought it up like that now it's hard not she she says T she calls it taints and she s plural yeah like you're like a bunch of men you know we individual have a taint two us there three taints in this room we are I'm assuming we're tainted up Jamie doesn't have one them thing birds have what are those things called like a piercing down there birds have like one hole everything comes out of [ __ ] piss clav clav clav clav clav cl cl clavicle clavicle think it's clavicle coil is that it oh maybe well anogenital distance is the proper term for that sounds so much wor AGD uh Joe in mix company what Dr Shanah Swan said was that this is observable in mammals that would they introduce phalates into these mammals bodies the children The Offspring offspring of these animals that were contaminated with these Plastics have these weird uh anomalies in the children in that they start to have less sperm count they start to have smaller taints and she said that what what is the function of the taint I'm explain that she said that in mammals the size of the taint is uh a great indicator of whether it's a male or a female and that when they look at like a little puppy like a puppy you know when you get them it's hard to tell is it a boy or girl you got to look or something like that well when uh the taints of the males are between 50 and 100% larger than the taints of the females so if you see an animal with a long taint you go oh that's a boy but because of the introduction of phalates into the mother the taints on the baby boys are smaller MH and they're seeing the exact same thing with humans they believe and that this is in a lot of plastics that leech into our system I want to uh uh maybe next week you and I can both compare taints not of ours our wives let just see if they're smaller if they're small we'll come back with more data it's a science project baby it's for show it's for the show sence it's [ __ ] I'm baby it's for the show is
what I'm saying um it's it's apparently um like a bad in terms of like what the the the Outlook is for we're deiz yeah trying to say that without saying that well no this that's exactly what it sounds like we men whose AGD that's the taint is shorter than the median length around 2 in 52 mm have seven times the chance of being subfertile wow as those with a longer AG D according to a stud study published on Friday in the Journal of environmental health perspectives the distance measured from the anus to the underside of the scrotum is linked to male fer fertility including semen volume and sperm count the study found the shorter the AGD the more likely a man was to have low sperm count and this sperm count is being lowered by Plastics in the water this is interesting um so it's the measure from the distance from the anus to under the the underside of the scrotum yeah is there anything on this page that tells you you if you measure your actual dick length from the scrotum or from the top or the side H just something I've always wondered it's good question right how do you get an accurate read I mean are guys measuring their dick by going around their balls and then adding all those starts in the back of my neck here yeah of course one of those what she said freaked me the [ __ ] out yeah that's well we're defiling it's fairly new science in terms of understanding the role of phalates in the repr Ive systems of mammals but see I I grew up in the Netherlands and when I grew up in the Netherlands it was a it's still a socialist country but it was really I mean you you got gray telephones you couldn't touch the phone you couldn't unplug it yourself that was all illegal you know everything was socialized the whole taxes were 90% unug it you no that was illegal really and they would know oh my god really it was weird that's crazy especially coming from the US even as a seven or eight-year-old um but the typical uh meal is very simple in the Netherlands at the time uh in the morning you may eat um it's all bread butter cheese um maybe Bread Butter some Speck which is kind of a a salted smoked bacon um you could have something sweet if you wanted Nutella maybe but then it was always meat potatoes vegetables meat potatoes vegetables then you know or
maybe with a piece of fish on uh on Friday and that was it and people were the tallest [ __ ] in the universe they were healthy skating all over the canals winning at Olympics and all the tall people's [ __ ] just [ __ ] swimming uh speed skating justad you has a lot to do with the diet and now uh because I've observed it I've been back and forth I've lived there I've come back to the States and people are so much unhealthier so much and of course now they're getting processed food they're getting that from the albertine which is the you know the from the supermarket they're getting you know readymade meals it's just and because there's no incentive to educate people anyone from anymore from the same people who are who own the processing companies and who own you know or endow the universities what there's people trying to educate people online there's a lot of like of course well people are looking for it they're not the human being the human spirit is going this can't be right for most people yeah I think so I think you're right I think for most people they're like if most people if you got to look at the the whole food system and looked at what people are eating what what kind of results we're getting where what was it 40 something per obese something like that I think it's more than that what was it Jamie remember this is like the Jamie F chei show he's always on it kids on the ball but when uh we looked at it last it's it's a a stunning number of obese people and it a lot of it has to do with the diet a lot also noticeable if you travel from Europe coming back to the United States 42 42.4% in 2017 to 2018 that's probably and what does what does obese mean oh look at this during the same time the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 4.7% to 9 .2% wow yeah well it's the CDC so you got to trust those numbers right away yeah could be much worse who knows crazy who knows that's crazy MH that so that's from put that back up so that's that is much more recent that's from 99 to 2000 I didn't read the whole thing it said uh from 2007 99 or to uh 2000 and then from okay so it was and how many people got tipped over the edge during the pandemic and lockdowns I'm reading this wrong it was 99 to 2000 through 2017 to 2018 I don't know why they're saying it
that way anyway it says obesity prevalence increased from 30% to 42% 30 30.5 to 42.4 right during the same time the prevalence of severe obesity increased from 4.7% to 99.2% that's what it is so that's a big trend from 2000 yeah on I don't know why they put it that way it was 42% from 2017 to 2018 oh and that's now I get it I'm reading them separately so that's not good 42% is terrible what you know there needs to be you know some sort of of of a message gets out to people that goes just put the [ __ ] sugar down put the sugar down like have it every now and then well you're doing it right now a little you are I saw the neelen ratings you are the number one show in the [ __ ] universe that I think that that's propaganda I think it's the government it doesn't matter if it's propaganda doesn't matter it's just what it is it's not real fake numbers no it's and it's beautiful it really is news and what's so great is you basically have an open mic basically you know so people come here and all all kinds of messages are getting through that's a problem so I'm it is of course it is and you get you know you get [ __ ] for it but I was like man this so many re to take Joe down why don't they take Joe down well of course because as long as you can get the right people in what kind of a world are we liveing in where people would even think that it's a good idea to take people down for talking about stuff that that is a crazy world like I'm not telling people what to do I'm not I'm not trying to establish new laws not trying to overthrow the government the idea of taking people down it's a political mechanism we all think about it that way we all think I don't mean I don't think you agree with it but I'm saying we all think that's common that's it's worse than that it's now gamified and people are online especially Twitter I I'm I that's the only thing I ever look at if I look at something on social media and they're like oh oh look what he posted oh he's probably going to get deplatformed for that oh oh man oh they oh the shut down his account deactivated oh this is an outrage this is a game now it's it's definitely a game in that respect especially in the idea that for
a lot of people they're they see windows and then they have a bag of rocks that's handed to them and they want to throw these rocks through the windows it's natural the thing is what are people trying to achieve I mean the game they're bored at work okay well that's true and they're try to get you cancelled [ __ ] Adam Curry but the game well there you go yeah so the the object is no longer communicating something that could make a difference to people's lives not in that game that's now moving elsewhere podcast is still a big part of that podcast and they're coming for us they're coming for podcast although I've shored it up with podcast casting 2.0 you know is this a pitch for podcasting 2.0 [ __ ] yeah get a modern podcast app at new podcast apps.com I think there's always going to be a way that they there's always going to be like the tech people are too [ __ ] smart the people like yourself and the people that are deeply involved in like all the sneaky web [ __ ] they're too smart to just let someone have full complete control over everyone's ability to podcast even though Twitter and a lot of these places have done a pretty [ __ ] good job of silencing a lot of people you're starting to see these new platforms emerg all over the place and I think there's going to be more of them in the future we have to realize that YouTube's only like how many years old 13 years old but also here's what's changed it doesn't ma being the biggest audience having the biggest outside of what you're doing really doesn't matter anymore because you have an audience that W you built this organically this is not some Al go [ __ ] View and you're doing you know four four minute Clips or some [ __ ] like that and you know your your cover art is one of those things those things that's that's what all you could look at all the YouTube videos to get attention to make you click on it you know a a shocking thing happened so um what's what is important now is people are able to assemble themselves in their own own platforms kind of back to what the internet was when it was completely decentralized this is a part of the same movement hey we're going to talk about healthy living and we don't need to be the loudest voice on Twitter people who are interested they can come over here and
they can hang out with us and everyone's welcome to come in and if we decide you're a piece of [ __ ] we're going to kick you out that's what that and then those tribes they start to intersect you know and then now the technology exists for them to share between each other that's what Jack dorsy is doing with black blue sky blue sky it'll be basically that you can have your own Twitter for your own community and it it will be able to Federate so interact with other communities but you have control over what community comes in and can communicate with you I did not know dorsy was going to start a new social media app is that is a new social media app has nothing to do with Twitter that's been yeah that's been that's been going for a while I think that's something he's been building on the side I I don't know right but it's it's not Twitter it's not part of I don't think it's a part it may use protocol similar to Twitter I hope it's more Protocols of Mastadon and activity Pub but which would be open source this is going to be a controversial thing to say but I'm going to say it I think you cannot ask for a better guy if you could keep him at the and and people say well that's crazy look what they did to Twitter I'm telling you that guy wants it to be a free speech platform but these those things are insanely complicated and when you're dealing with like a corporation like he wanted to have two there's just too many people that are telling you what to do there's too too many Minds that are coming together on these things when you something is as big as Twitter I don't know how much say he had but I guarantee you there was a lot of other people who had a say as well whereas if he can start something and do what he initially wanted to do what he initially wanted to do with Twitter is to literally create a separate Wing like to create a wild west wing where there would be like regular Twitter it's like you know you get this sort of curated corporate controlled message because anything that gets out of line they're ban your account right or Wild West Twitter and say you can do everything but docs people and threaten violence so I like Jack dorsy I like I like the
moves he's made the context is that he was really running a 100 million 100 billion dollar company Square you know 90% of his time and working on decentralizing Payment Systems thinking about Bitcoin how that fits in you know what is the bridge between the current world and uh and a bit a Bitcoin ised World um uh I think he he clearly saw decentralization a long time ago I mean Twitter started as a podcast platform so he understood decentralization by default how did it start as a podcast PL it was called audio initially and they were it was really cool I I had pod show at the time and they uh were coming out with it was you know you could manage your podcast you know the ones you were listening to you could also create it it was done in Flash at the time which is kind of the hot technology it's called AIO and I did not know that was Twitter and then they pivoted and they took I think the basic RSS concept you know Twitter had a whole uh technical progression if you remember the fail whale so they had to really rearchitecturing that people in America are bitching about you know kicking off uh margorie Taylor green how about the president of [ __ ] Zimbabwe who's on the phone screaming at you because you know he won't censor this [ __ ] or that there's there's there's no winning to that job no winning at all and I think he also knows that it's over that the social media that people are going to start moving away from it he sees the decentralization so he he was ready to jettison out I mean I just I don't I've had like one dm with him that's it and I'm just observe from from a distance I think he he'll be a very important player uh in the in the true decentralized world that we're moving into which we've been moving into for probably 15 20 years it seems like for uh social media apps that's the only way you're ever going to achieve any kind of balance but my concern is that they never get a chance like when a new social media app starts one of the things that first happens is immediately people start labeling it a right-wing alternative that's like the immediate the that's the the slam that that gets hit with as quickly as possible and then when you observe some of those places I don't want to name names but some of
these new ones that start up and you see that there's like all this right-wing activity you get a bunch of stuff you get like your basic Patriot stuff the people that have the American flag they don't say anything too outrageous sometimes they're shocked by certain political decisions but then you see like outrageous people overthe top people people that are just they sound like they're [ __ ] insane they're they're saying all these different people are criminals and they should be court marshaled and they get real aggressive and you you go how many of those are real folks here's my question what the [ __ ] are you doing there in the first place who cares who [ __ ] no are you looking what are you looking for I'm a social studies not just not just you of course teach commity also I'm also a conspiracy therapist Joe Rogan so I we are in good company I um what is the point it used to be tr get pissed off it used okay I'm a comedian right so that's fine and and so people are wasting their [ __ ] life away you know if you're interested in in some [ __ ] about food go find that Community it's going to be a forum it may be a Mastadon server you'll find it you know go participate in that people have to break free of the dopamine hits that's what's going on it's the drug it's the outrage it's all that [ __ ] that go bing bing bing oh [ __ ] and I get it and I love it sometimes but I'm a responsible drug User it's also important it's important to understand because it's a real factor and this is how I'm looking at it when I'm looking at these people arguing on these new social media platforms about like uh which of uh the congressmen that are sitting in you know in this video is the bigger traiter and which one should spend the most time in jail and like the way you're looking at the just the way they talk about stuff you got I just always go okay it might be like a real hardcore person who's a right-winger or it might be a Russian Troll and that's what's fascinating because I know that there's hundreds of thousands of them out there they they have troll Farms they set these things up and they just purposely try to [ __ ] with our perceptions and our arguments about things they purposely try and I'm not saying that this is responsible for all
of it but I'm saying that they recognize how goofy we are and they attack and they're doing this all the time and they're getting us to fight and they're getting us to be argumentative and and here's what we're missing so while all this is going on the United States in my opinion put us very close on the brink of some kind of war with a with a move that has not been reported poorly reported no one really understands it and that's Kazakhstan have you heard about Kazakhstan I don't know what's going on in Kazakhstan there was a a revolution overnight and the government resigned the people took over and the reason was well we're not really sure we think it's because the the price of gas doubled overnight maybe because people were tired of QR codes and mandates but this was really a color Revolution this was a when did this happen a week ago maybe what this has been building so but here's what's important and I think we both can agree that President Biden ain't running [ __ ] someone in probably more State Department uh level is has done what are you looking at look at this title Kazakhstan president gives shoot to kill order against protesters right so let me explain this is what I think is happening for months now Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine Putin come on into Ukraine you and you know what the deal is there is that we want to put our anti-aircraft missiles in Ukraine and the Russians want to put their S400 anti-aircraft missiles in Ukraine they don't want NATO or the US anybody [ __ ] with it and this Administration in particular they're a bunch of Russia phobes and they they it may go back from the 60s you know there's a lot of people with a big hard on towards Putin and Russia and it has to be war with this guy one come hell high water even if by proxy so this attention has been on Ukraine and then unbelievably all of a sudden we have almost to the tea The Playbook that they did in Ukraine Victoria Newland [ __ ] the EU I don't if you know any of this stuff was basic we LED that that whole change that's pretty well documented John McCain was a big part of it uh John car just it was crazy Biden as well big part of that so this now happened in
Kazakhstan which is on the exact opposite side of Russia so now Putin Who has 100,000 troops he has to haul ass because now he's got a real hot situation on his hand and why is this important uh Jamie can you bring up a map of uh Kazakhstan and this is someone is playing really brilliant but very dangerous moves in the Biden Administration okay so if you look at Kazakhstan it is in between Russia and China and there's a Down Below there's uh above kakhan there's on the right on the border somewhere around there Jamie there's a town it's called I forget what it's called and this is not helping these sorry yeah anyway there's a there's a Time the point is this is where China is connecting their railroad system to Russia to go further into Europe This is the belt and Road this is this is China's whole thing this is also where pipelines are going to be for Russia to send their natural resources to China and the Biden Administration or someone running the show just stop that [ __ ] they just stop that dead in their tracks and this is a huge problem for China for Russia but also don't look at Ukraine who knows we may be sneaking in the Rockets as we speak someone's someone's doing something really nasty and so we've been distracted by a lot of stuff and this is happening Jesus Christ yeah I no it'll be okay Joe I you're shocked no no no it might not be you know when I was talking to Oliver Stone the other day we were talking about his whoa I me to pick that up I love that it's on the podcast but it's love you said it oh yeah when I was talking to Oliver Stone I trying to give him credit for what we're saying um [ __ ] sorry may forget what I was going to say I [ __ ] you on that didn't I what we we were just talking about Kazakhstan Kazakhstan China Russia Railway pipelines no a l gosh I'm so sorry that's okay my poor attempted humor [ __ ] up to train of thought God damn it well he was probably talking about how the American government does all kinds of uh crazy [ __ ] and is responsible for a lot of murder and destruction see I knew said we were really close to nuclear war during the Kennedy administration and that there was multiple plays on both Cuba and there was ideas about going to nuclear war with Russia losing possibly 30 to 40 million people and and we were
talking about Doctor Strange Love that's what it was so in Doctor Strange Love there's a general that sounds completely absurd he's out of his [ __ ] mind he's a lunatic get him out of there he's trying talking about surviving a first strike nuclear attack like that we could do a first strike and we would probably survive might lose Chicago that kind of [ __ ] that was a real person there was the real people that were actually considering us going to war with China and Russia and just getting it over with because we're eventually going to have to do it later and so they wanted to do that and they wanted to do it with Cuba as well and when you you think about what what's happening in this country right now where you know this was there was Kennedy back then and Kennedy was the guy who is vetoing things and saying no we're not going to do that we're going to send uh we we'll we'll send envoys to Vietnam we're not sending any more troops like he had some ideas that a lot of the people in the military industrial complex weren't happy with there's no one like that now like what do you think do you think Biden has real like what what kind of relationship do you think Biden has with control as the president oh okay well zero and I'll tell you why I think most if not all of what we're living through right now is a financial issue it's not a health issue uh of course it is but the real issue is a Financial issue and um what's come to bear in my opinion and this is kind of recent information is that you know the 2008 2009 housing crisis that was fixed by printing a shitload of money trillions of dollars and pushing it off into very difficult to explain how the financial system works I'm not qualified but I do understand in general lines what's happened that's now come to Bear someone has to pay the piper and it kind of happen uh in Central Bank controlled economies which is what we have with the Federal Reserve so it's a bunch of banks that really manage our money they create it they they spend it they do all kinds of stuff with that we borrow from them it's a very convoluted system um uh now now I lost my to that's not fair it's that La weed [ __ ] come on Jamie where was I convoluted system right the convolute ah okay so that so that's the balance sheet
is out of whack and it's it can jeopardize everything we could have a crash of Epic Proportions right this and it happens about every 10 years if you think about all the crises we have so we had 2008 2008 but then before that we had 2001 911 we had 87 before that there's been all these crashes around 10 years kind of the system has to reset but it's compounding you know our our national debt which is all just kind of fictional [ __ ] is probably you know quadrillions really but doesn't doesn't matter why do you think that wait but wait for it 2019 just before the the outbreak of of the Wuhan flu at the time as we jokingly called it the uh there was a huge problem with uh interbank lending and how that works is irrelevant but um as we now know because that information just came out two weeks ago uh JP Morgan uh Chase Morgan Stanley City Bank and Goldman Sachs collectively borrowed 11.7 trillion just before the pandemic started when the Wall Street [ __ ] happened in 2008 2009 it was about 8 trillion and something was [ __ ] up in the system then it melted down here they melted down the economy by shutting everybody down shut that [ __ ] down and now we've got all this money coming into the system cares act two trillion just trillion and trillions of dollars that are just being created they need it to keep the whole system alive and that's why I'm getting confused here though are you thinking this is engineered yeah totally the whole thing the shutdown of the economy yes that that it wasn't done to protect people that it was done in my opinion that part was done that was needed one way or the other they could have done climate change asteroids from space I don't give a [ __ ] they needed to shut it down they needed to stop the money flow to fix it and get more per mission to print money to flood into the system there's too much on the banking side and not enough on the people's side go figure they've been stealing it so they had to give people money and that's what they did they printed stimulus checks in Texas today if you and I start a consulting company we to which is to uh motivate people to get vaccinated we can get a grant of up to $1 million what yes this is how much money there is for this [ __ ] and that goes into the system and that's
what they needed to balance out this complete piece of crap now is that going to work I mean I'm but here's here's the question do you think that it was engineered up into the point of releasing a virus how far do you go with this that's hard to say I mean maybe it was just a virus and it was made worse I mean they they had they had drilled they had practiced for this so they could trigger trigger um me muscle memory with the people who were in that vent 2011 drills and everything that's not that hard to do um you know and then well interestingly uh I feel Dr Malone didn't do a good job of explaining Mass formation he didn't no no he didn't I thought it was awesome no he he missed an important very important part of it because it went kind of straight to Hitler and that's not what Mass formation is well he was just trying to give the worst case example in recent memory I think but we have an example right now okay and that's what makes it interesting it's not actually called mass for formation psychosis is just Mass formation um The psychosis part is really not what the thesis is and this is from Professor dmet who was from Belgium I lived in Belgium I speak fluent Flemish and dut Matias Matt Matias so I I've had personal contact with him but I have studied his his his pitch so I understand what it is the four if you have four elements in society which is dissatisfaction uh with your like meaning just in general what piece of [ __ ] job do I have if there's depression a lot of people depressed lot of people on ssris um if there's um a uh oh a uh uh a free floating anxiety which is oh oh my God we've got this virus what the [ __ ] is it and then you add isolation to it which even though we're online and everything someone not going to the office sitting at home with two kids in a two-bedroom apartment trying to work remotely can feel very isolated and that moment Mass formation can occur when a solution is delivered and then everyone goes into a hypnotic State and the solution was social distancing the solution was masking the solution was wash your hands the solution is vaccine and this hypnotic State this is where it
gets important is as powerful Dr Malone said that correctly as what they do in an operating rooms when someone is allergic to Anesthesia they can hypnotize you with the same mechanism so you can get cut while you're not antiz oh yeah but most importantly the leaders the politicians they are also in the same hypnotic State and they get myopic and like Australia they get completely irrational and nuts so it doesn't lead to a dictatorship like Hitler it leads to totalitarianism and it's [ __ ] Lawless and it's just going to be and look at what's happening we've got people doing Smash and grabs and Gucci we've got the we've got a lot of stuff going on so what I'm loving right now is that there's a there's a mechanism in place that is waking people up from this and uh many people may have heard this people who have been double vaccinated boosted have followed all the rules wear the mask you know whatever they get Omicron they feel shame have you heard of in this any of people feel ashamed and like oh my God I can't believe it I did I did everything I was told to do everything and I still got it I'm so ashamed and some people wake up and go hey wait a minute what the [ __ ] am I ashamed for I did everything right and by the way here I am they're waking up from it and they're now looking around and now they're seeing all the other stuff that's happening collectively this is we're in a very bad state right now and that's Mass formation and we're in it we and we can be in it for all kinds of reasons but when the lockdown happened that opened up opportunity look at it right there Washington Post thousands who follow the rules are about to get Co they shouldn't be ashamed mhm yeah they shouldn't they shouldn't of course not they should we we should we should stop thinking about fault and start looking at the raw facts when you've got that woman what is her name that voice of Doom on CNN medical lady when oh Leno W Leno yeah she was saying she's the voice of Doom she was saying that cloth masks are little more than facial decorations yeah she's saying that they don't work on respiratory viruses she she blew the you know she blew the marketing she B she B she said it more than once like but they
let her H possibly but do you think that that's possibly just setting up the narrative that we're getting in new science and we're starting to understand to try to realize that people are not going to take masks forever so they're going to try to detox us slowly from masks slowly but surely get the message out there that they're not necessary that don't really do anything anymore just get vaccinated everybody myself included at this very moment is trying to create a narrative yeah I'm going to be very open about it of course this is very important and this is a good place to do it and it's great because it's a podcast it's independent um when someone needs to go do this [ __ ] on mainstream television you always have to be introduced as former FBI former CIA intelligence work you know whatever the [ __ ] and you do your Spiel in a minute in 30 seconds and you hope that that sticks that doesn't work anymore so now there's long form people can listen people aren't stupid they're not stupid they can look I'm a disc jockey I can figure stuff out I can recite a a a psychological thesis yeah you know so this this is this is the kind of stuff we have to move to this is what's scary to me about the way things are going like every decision seems to compound the problem further as if it's on purpose like when you when you hear that people that are in government and even some folks that have at least some control over law enforcement don't think that crime is a problem it's it's there's a [ __ ] uh disconect a disconnect there's a letter that a friend of mine I won't say where lives in one of his friends is a cop and they sent him a letter of all the new guidelines and these guys are passing around because they can't [ __ ] believe it like what you're allowed to arrest people for what you're not to arrest people for what you have to let people go for and it's they've they've eliminated a lot of [ __ ] crime and this whole idea of having at $1,000 anything more than $1,000 you can get prosecuted for 950 well here's here's the problem and my buddy Mo predicted this and I think unfortunately he's right um so this recent trial of uh ex officer Potter who uh killed a guy she thought she was reaching for her
taser yelled taser shout him um so in Hill Country there's a lot of you know service people up there and my buddy uh Mike he was considering going back into the police department and you know cuz he he was a he was out there for a long time and he he you know quit for a little bit and he was like I want to go back I want to serve again and after that trial happened he said I'm not going to do it because no one's got your back and there's no way for you to effectively because you if you have to have in the back of your mind that's that's what training is you know we always had kind of this secret agreement like hey if it happens like with military accidentally killing civilians you know I'm not trying to make it right but I'm just saying the thinking is no one wants to be a cop anymore no one wants to serve the community and you know what's going to happen he's going to go into a wealthy neighborhood who have a private police force and the people in poor neighborhoods are going to get drones and robots and [ __ ] like that and you're never going to go to jail because we have the mechanism to lock you down now we know where you are you should be quarantining you're quarantining for 15 years now in your house there you go that's that's and and why and is that one single entity or does do multiple things work in concert or am I just hallucinating is it a simulation I don't know but that's what I see there well first of all that one situation where that lady pulled out the gun instead of the taser and shot that that guy people think that that can't happen you have never been in a situation where you hold on you've never been in a situation where it's life or death first of all because people freak the [ __ ] out and they go reptile and they don't have no idea what they're doing and they don't realize until after it's over and then they try to piece it together in their memory when you're in a violent situation with a person where you think you got to tase them and you're a woman here's another thing well this is this is what my buddy said this is a thing about cops I don't and this is not just about women cuz a lot of women who can do it and handle themselves but you should be able to [ __ ] handle yourself if you're going to be a cop
period when you see a lot of these cops that are like small people with no physical ability to restrain someone and no martial arts background whether it's a small man or a small woman that's crazy that's what my buddy said he said he says forgive me for saying this but women shouldn't be on the street I don't think that's all women there's some but I'm just telling you the general feeling and he has of course he said there's some kick ass Kick-Ass women he works with he say in general you got someone who's on on meth or some crazy [ __ ] like that you have no idea what comes out of a dude right that's insane you should be strong as [ __ ] and you should be really well trained and I think you know ideally you would want it to be like an elite soldier that's what you would want out of a cop and and through that you would get more discipline too you get people that are more disciplined because there's a lot of these people that they get these jobs like who had a bit about that someone had a bit about it about growing up with cops [ __ ] who was that I whoever it was um they had a good bit about it about guys who were cops when they grew up I think it's Tim Dylan it's Tim Dylan that's who it is about guys who are cops when he was growing up like the the kind of guys you grew up with then became cops sure it shouldn't be that way it should be a really well-respected job it's a very important job and but somehow or another it stopped being that and whether it's through corruption or too much crime to deal or just fatigue literally literally by what we're discussing here is put them on edge all these things now no longer possible all these violations are possible we're shifting these rules and undeniable I call it the Soros sisters but you we have all these District Attorneys who are pretty much funded by GE I don't think it's George S I think it's his son Alexander he's probably running the show now there I believe that they have a mission to subvert America I think they don't love America they want to create lawlessness because it's but this is a this is a common Conspiracy Theory air quotes right um but I've had it t told to me by very credible people and the idea is that what one would do is one would we don't accuse anybody but if one would wanted
to do that what one would do is they would fund a very very Progressive politician district attorney what have you get him in the office then once they get him in the office then fund someone who's way to the left of him fund him push him get him and push him out fund the next one make him even crazier keep going and then get in people's heads that you have to defund the police you got to say that say defund the police make it a narrative we got to defund the police instead of retrain the police instead of pay them like the same thing imagine if we looked at our country's education system and said we got to defund the teachers that would be crazy you would never say that you'd be like no no no they don't get paid enough this is crazy they're underst staff these rooms are too big what we need is more money that goes into educ that's a general thing that like if you talk to rational but if you talk to rational people it was bunch of people that are paying attention and really care about kids Futures that's you'd say we need more money to educate these children the same thing you would say about cops if you have problems with cops you should say listen we got to rework this and figure the the idea of having no cops is so crazy and then the idea of defunding them is almost just as crazy because you take the cops that are still there and you neutralize them and this is an ex ating anybody for any horrendous things that police brutal police brutality cases that we've all witnessed and all been terrified of and shocked by and infuriated by we can have a conversation it's fine but that doesn't have anything to do with where it could go correct so look at how this comes to be it's the candidates who are put in and and run at these local levels it's the mainstream media how everything is positioned the words very important words yeah all like def the police all these things these are these narratives like where do they start where does like defund the police start who's the first person to start saying that I I couldn't say but you know this goes all the way back through black lives matter Inc as I consider it not just black lives matter movement but you know there there's a media is so prevalent now there is so much fighting for your tension and little things catch
and and grab hold and we live by that I mean this Donald Trump will forever be in the history books as a horrible guy you know God knows what they'll put on him with the the January 6 you know as worse I mean what that what was that yesterday with the president and vice president that was insane was so insane that they were comparing those dorks those dorks that's that's writing Nar it's not cute anymore it's not cute but let's just explain to people what that was because a lot of people don't even know Jamie pull pull up what the statement was was it from the vice president that it it goes down with what did she say it went down with 911 and what was the other one Civil War the Civil War I have to say No Agenda show.com because Dvorak will get so mad at me if I don't plug the show No Agenda show.com the only partner I'd ever want to work with he has nothing to fear he's always like you're trying to work me work me out of the show there would be no [ __ ] show he's one of those guys n what is the quote he's a good guy this is um a complete Insanity look January 6th was embarrass embarrassing it was pathetic it was confusing to me cuz there's parts of it that confused me the parts where you have these clear agent provocators in the audience calling for people to go into the capital EPS yeah P like clear and then there's video of cops opening up barriers what is that why did they do that does has there ever been an explanation of that we really haven't seen like 10,000 hours of footage which is you know held under lock and key so we can't really know exactly but you know what's interesting about what they're what are you looking at here okay here it is they uh vice president K Harris caused outrage uh Thursday by comparing the January 6 Capital Hill to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor 1941 and the September 11th attacks on New York and Washington by Al-Qaeda terrorists certain dates Echo throughout history including dates that remind all we have lived throughout this this is this is a beautiful piece this is how it works I understand but we have to read what she people listening to this know what the got just let me let me get what she said out certain dates Echo throughout history including dates that instantly remind us remind all who have lived
through them where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault she said dates that occupy not only a place in our calendars but a place in our Collective memory December 7th 1941 September 11 2001 and January 6 2021 that's insane this is that's an insane just that is casting a spell this is neurolinguistic programming look at what it actually says it says C she's telling the the world and the American public certain dates Echo throughout history she is building a frame when you hear 9/11 you see smoke airplanes buildings Mayhem you see Pearl Harbor perm sure that has now been put into your head that this is mind control it's not novel but that's exactly what it is and I don't think it's working well I think it is working with a certain amount of people there's a but listen there's a lot of people particularly people on the left that want to like discuss why uh Fox News is not talking about the January 6th anniversary as if like when that date repeats itself a year later you have to bring this up okay let me tell you what why this is happening in my opinion okay so they're trying to if they could convict everybody who had anything to do with January 6 in any fashion whatsoever now this outfit called the lawfare group they're the ones that I think wrote the whole strategy for Trump impeachment maybe even for you know the Russia stuff all of that it's a group of very Democratic fund it's a huge law Collective really really smart [ __ ] people they are now trying to mount a case against these insurrectionists air quotes using sarbanes Oxley and sarbanes Oxley was a law that was put into place uh really to make sure that Enron never happened again and what is it they're trying to use at some section there 1519 I I looked at I don't remember what it was um it says if you in any way are trying to hamper or kill or stop someone from official testimony then you can be arrested and go to jail for 20 years under sarban Oxley it was never intended for this uh situation but that's what they're trying to do so that's why they want Shan Hannity's text message and all these people because if you are any part of that any part I don't know if it'll fly but if any part of that you can fall
under the statutes of this law and they'll lock you they want to lock everybody up I don't listen I I don't think you can you if if someone didn't know that that happened and that was going to happen I don't think you can blame them for the actions of others that you say they influen unless unless they but let me finish unless they say that it's okay unless they say that you know I want you to do that like that guy did the the agent provocator I want you to do that I want you to go into that building I want you to go after those people I want you to take what's yours that kind of talk but there is an influence so like what responsibility does someone have if they do push an influence and not just that not just talk about the Capital Hill thing but what about like the fake Russia story what about Russia gate what about the people people that were pushing a narrative that changed the way people thought about corruption in government what about that how come that's not a big deal how come that all happened we know it's all [ __ ] and no one apologized how come we know that the version of it that we were told versus what what actually was going on and that Communications are kind of like common and on both sides and the Clinton campaign communicated with them too like who knows what the [ __ ] they talked about but the idea that like this was this terrible thing that Russia had subverted our government and they they had taken over through Donald Trump and he's some sort of a [ __ ] you know undercover agent it's it was so dumb I feel like Trinity in The Matrix and you're Neo and you're just coming through this goo and I'm trying to to hold you and love you and say here we are this is the reality of it all we're living we in we're living in a media simulation that's it it's something weird it's it's certainly something weird because I just give into it but you know let's talk about what we talked about earlier just the the overdose debt the number is so staggering 100,000 last year it's the number one killer of people 18 to 49 but you're not seeing it all over the news why you not seeing it all over the news not why is that this massive loss of life a front page story on CNN every day you you know why that is because the number one Advertiser of
all brought to you by fer exactly yeah it's it is that's how it's controlled that's capture that's total capture that's capture that's capture now what I've one thing that I heard that's very promising is that c CNN plans on going to straight news now John Malone I think John Malone um he's now buying CNN and that's why I think we're seeing a lot of changes he is he hates the talent he hates what they're doing he doesn't think they're doing uh they're doing news anymore I think that's why you know hey we get the Cuomo kid out um people are auditioning you can see Jake Jake Tapper trying to do a little like push back you know kind of pushing Back Against The Narrative people are jocking for position there there's going to be a massive massive shakeup and it may actually be good um John Malone's a pretty serious dude he doesn't [ __ ] around he may actually want to try and get back to news keep Jake Tapper I like that guy H he's a fair he's a fairweather friend I trust him he's a fairweather friend Jake chapper I have a video of his face when President Trump got elected like cuz I was it was on Election night we were at The Comedy Store and uh I was in the the comics bar and Jake Tapper was uh doing the rundown of how president Trump had won the election and you to look on his face it's like [ __ ] you know he wanted to say something but he couldn't say anything friends of mine have a um a service business and they were uh serving a uh legit you give me a face now I believe and they were serving I think it was the assistant uh director of the CIA on his birthday at his house and serving what they would you know what you know whatever part it was a party so they had they were doing something related to the party food stuff just related to the party whatever and I and um they said just in passing you know they never told me not to talk about it said it was really weird like like mostly CNN people were there including Jake Tapper like just hanging out on the GU on the guy's birthday is like all well I guess if you want to keep working that's what you do well but tells you everything man come on we thought we thought the old way was all legit and on the up and up here's the thing man it's not good for us really to know all this
[ __ ] it's not it's not really but here's the thing we have to think of as as as humans capitalism is not bad what's bad is this [ __ ] like there's there's there's versions of capitalism that are great you know you want to buy something you know it's a good company that makes it the people get paid well you buy it you feel good everybody's good like those things still exist the idea that they can't exist the idea the only way to buy something is it has to be made overseas in some [ __ ] horrible conditions in a sweat shop that's the only way you could get it at a reasonable price here in America that's bananas that's banana it's not it's not like it's impossible it's not like they're using fairy dust over there like what the [ __ ] are they doing well I'll tell you what they're doing they're getting people to work cheap so it should cost a little more and people should get paid better and like duh like it's such a simple formula and we will all would have clear consciences we you all would know that if you're like if you used to buy a car in Detroit you wanted to buy like a a Corvette when they first started making them the [ __ ] people made them like as soon as they had unions those people were making good money they had houses they had a [ __ ] boat by the lake it was it was a well-paid job and it felt good to buy something that was made there because you knew whether or not you're it's because you're patriotic which is fine or it's because if you know that you're giving another human being like a good wage cuz you're buying something from a a company that takes care of people that should be like one of our most important things we think of when we spend money then I suggest you get the thinkink on the show The thinkink the thinkink Larry Fink sounds like you're calling I call the Larry the CEO of Black Rock oh should get him on the show and say listen [ __ ] you control 10% of the world's all the world's wealth 10 trillion dollars in assets you actually manage the United States money the Federal Reserve money you you buy bonds and stocks and do that on our behalf we pay them okay they lose money so what they Ride Along you have all this control you are pushing ESG we talked about that last time environmental social goals so you're making all these
choices and you're kicking people off boards and you're using your influence why the [ __ ] are you doing it what's your point I think you just asked him hopefully he'll respond via Instagram I'm Adam Curry on Twitter maybe he'll respond I don't know I I'm not educated in that subject enough to ask any questions a lot of people who watch The Joe Rogan Experience know exactly what I'm talking about I'm sure like if I had someone like that on I would have to do a deep dive oh oh dude hilarious it's not fun it's not fun when I I think about deep Dives on you know air quotes evil cuz I don't know if it's real I don't know how much of it's real but I know that throughout history there have been orous entities whether they're armies or governments or religions that have wrecked havoc on the human race of course and you know how it always goes the people in control of the money they start creating more of it or they start devaluing it in some other way most recently the Roman Empire of course you know less and less silver less and less gold clipping coins and that's what always puts us into trouble and that's exactly what's happening yeah and that's what I was going to say what I was going to say is and if you don't think that can happen right now you're crazy it's always happen and we always have to fight against it and so like when people think that like the idea of saying that freedom is important is a frivolous notion you have to understand what you get when you don't have freedom then other people have control of you once people have control of you they do bad things if you look at the places that have the most control over people and Australia is one of them because everyone's unarmed because they took the guns away in the 90s when they had one mass shooting they took everybody's guns away so not everyone's unarmed there are lots but they didn't take them away they gave them voluntar barely they went oh yeah okay that's fine they're they're unarmed though there's very few rifles very few rifles that exist for hunting it's mostly unarmed people that's the difference and what they're doing over there is crazy they're imposing rules in these people they're they're ignoring science when it comes to like whether or not you've recovered from it naturally
because you got covid you should you be exempt from taking a vaccine no it's like everybody needs the shot like what what are you doing they're saying now three is the shot what's your number what's your number when stop it gets to this point where you're going okay would that be possible in a place where everybody was armed and I'm not saying people should rise up against government this is not what I'm saying what I'm saying is like the psychology of people where they have ultimate power over you because they have also they have all the weapons just from the not even this let's not even look at this scenario let's look at the just the psychological state of people that have absolute control over you and then they want to tell you what to do you know there's some people that are bad parents they're like go to your room just shut up and go to your room they want the kid to just shut up and go to the room because they don't want to deal with it anymore CU they have the ultimate power over the kid and then the kid feels like this is a terrible relationship like they don't want to listen to me I'm crying I didn't really mean to do it that way and you don't you can't even talk to them go to your room shut the [ __ ] up go to your room that's some parents right it's also some governments there's some governments that when they have the same kind of ultimate power that a parent has over a child they're shitty government and they're mean and they treat people as if they have to listen they treat people if they're as if they're second class citizens and they know better than you even though they're just human beings they know better than you and you're just going to have to do this you're just going to have to get used to doing this because this is how we do things like hey no [ __ ] you you're just a person you shouldn't be telling all these other people who disagree how they have to and don't have to live their life how can you do that the only way you have to have ultimate power ultimate power you have to be the only one who's armed you have to be the only one who gets to say you have to be stuck in this weird situation where you could change laws and change rules because there's an emergency get away all sorts of protections that people have had in the past and then you never get them
back I love you I love you too that was e epic perfect rant but that's what we're dealing with well so here's my only this is all I'm working on because there's a whole slew of young people who are just opting out and they are moving to building parallel systems parallel networks with which is pretty much the only thing you can do we have all the technology everything we need my two projects I bring them together brought them together is podcasting that is protected and Bitcoin and and I'm just on the Bitcoin train because I believe that my money is safer there I'm not talking about versus the US dollar just in general and I think that that does I think that we will see that in our future as very um very protective for everything you know as they say Bitcoin fixes this if you can fix the money which is that's the broken part the money system is broken it causes the inflation it causes the misery it causes Wars because it's linked to the to oil so we have to go protect all that [ __ ] it's [ __ ] up the dollar I I love America I you we used to have our own the banks would create dollars they were promisory notes until this Federal Reserve Act came into play it was a takeover that's what Kennedy was talking about the the power that that is unspoken by man it's it's this banking system we're if we continue to be in that we're just [ __ ] yeah and I have a lot of Hope for cryptocurrencies I really do I don't know too much about them but Bitcoin seems to be the one in the ethereum the ones that the people who are in the know talk about the most and my point is that what we're seeing right now it's either going to go one way or the other it's either going to fall apart completely or we're going to use this as an opportunity to write the ship and come up with a better way to live our lives it's one it's going to be one of the other the fun the fundamental difference just so I say it because otherwise people beat me up the difference between Bitcoin and ethereum is Bitcoin there will only be 21 million it cannot be changed it cannot be inflated you cannot say the same for ethereum oh that's that's the main difference also there's no CEO of of Bitcoin oh there's CEO of ethereum well there's there's if you look at the history of it
eventually and it's going to be a problem well once once someone BEC king of thees I I love nfts I've never done one I'm not interested in it but you kind of know how that works where you know there's one from beat well there you go yeah this is fulfilling CLA Schwab's dream is it yes you will own nothing and you will be happy so you get an N I own nothing I'm [ __ ] everything you own plus you own an nft does take away all your stuff no you don't own it you don't own it it's it's beautiful I love it it's like baseball cards only you know well more crazy but you do cuz it's a non-fungible token Adam like I understand it that's my thing now pretend now buddy of mine you know these entertainment companies they're doing so much money in these nfts on you know their the intellectual property that they already have you know just even uh who was it Brian Cox you know the guy from sure yeah he's doing an nft he is love to say what it is but yeah lambor yesterday Lamborghini is making an nft the physical company why not get those dummies to buy it yeah well now now in the in the dream of the metaverse the Silicon Valley controlled metaverse nft is going to be very very important that will all be with their own [ __ ] coin you know they'll be like whatever the The Meta coin will be and then you have really more the ethereum CR crowd who are building their own decentralized metaverse but there when you you know you have a cool outfit that is oneof a kind and you can trade it with someone and you know you do that through an nft that's a very valid reason if you're into that do you think the future will be companies will come up with a coin and then you have to purchase the the company's products with that coin like say if Apple came up with its own coin they seem to be one of the few companies that could easily do that right if they decided to have an apple coin and you'd buy all Apple products with an apple Apple phones Apple iMacs and you just invest in what do you mean no hold please hold please let me finish that you let people invest in being a part of the company so you buy coins and through those coins you can buy products and you can invest a certain amount and the coins go up you actually make money the
coins go down you lose money and as the company keeps doing better it's almost like a another version of stocks or something and you buy it all through that is that possible possible now through sorry it's a very bad habit I havec I'm a [ __ ] know it all I'm very excited excited to talk no I'm I'm irritated by myself I'm not irritated don't worry about it that's kind of what Facebook wanted really yeah Facebook had the the Libra and it was all set up and then uh the US government intervened and said [ __ ] no because that would become that could easily become the default currency overnight Facebook does Facebook does all this local Commerce they own the classified Market they own the real economy you know the small Mom and Pops they own that [ __ ] which is why everyone hates them especially the news people because they're taking their salaries they're taking their [ __ ] money away newspapers oh my God anyway that's not the plan the plan is the Central Bank digital currency you will have crypto you will have a digital wallet it will be directly from the Federal Reserve to you oh and there will be no little retail banking that just won't happen anymore all online oh oh of course even no more brick and morar in 50 years I mean no no you you you just use it like you you use venmo now use the same way only you'll be connected to the Federal Reserve to the central bank now you've been completely morphed into where they want you to be because then they fully control you right but do you think they'll be retail stores you think there'll be retail right well if you believe the uh in the metaverse that Neil Stevenson wrote about in snow crash which uh I read actually had I had metaverse decom for a long long time is that snow crash that's not that's not that film isn't there a film called snow crash snow piercer that no snow crash on think ever you I would hate for it to be filmed um the only thing left in in meat space once we live in the metaverse yep is uh is um Domino's Pizza delivery and FedEx and hoverboards that's all that's left in that order pretty much in meat space I love that space yeah but you know there's I think there's a a real possibility that um how about this just for a scenario you know you're already in the gaming world you kind of love it you know you
got got the goggles on it's augmented reality it's virtual reality now maybe I can get a gig you know maybe I can put on a glove and do this and operate a robot you know remotely in a factory somewhere or maybe I can train artificial intelligence basically training to get rid of me you know these are all things that I believe is where Silicon Valley wants to take us could you imagine if that was a thing where you got a job in the metaverse and through the metaverse you making things at a factory in a real place oh that's going to happen oh for sure come on man El's already jacking into your brain of course it's going to happen this is transhumanism this is this is truly what one of the big agendas is integrate people with technology it would remove all the concern about safety at factories because you never worry about someone losing fingers when it's not really their hand you've got some person who's controlling it remotely they're nowhere near the actual metal getting cut they're nowhere near the furnaces they're nowhere near any of the Machinery that could [ __ ] people up they're doing it all remotely yeah and it's going to look like real life yeah oh [ __ ] so the most important thing is congregate people get together with other people hang out and also be aware's happening be aware of that's the hardest part man that's the hardest part that is the hardest part because it's too overwhelming especially if you have a job if you got a job doing something and then you have a family and you have hobbies and you have friends like you don't have time to be thinking about this [ __ ] have the hobbies and the friends we've been divided amongst vax and unvaxxed and safe and unsafe and stay safe and go with Jesus and I hate this and I hate that and I hate you and left right blue all this stuff is not healthy and it's probably not coincidental you've seen these delivery Bots I'm sure right that are on the way out there you go so this one is you go this one is uh shown off at CES that's how I saw this what happens if it hits a pothole well the interesting part here is how you control it it's not necessarily like an AI autonomous thing it's controlled by a guy in a Oculus
headset in his office there's your there's your kid's future Joe right there so you he walks with you no no he's in he's at home but wait a minute but the guy there he's steering it that guy loaded it up just like at the office or whatever he just put the [ __ ] inside and then this hold on so he loads it at the store and then and the other dud guy somewhere drives to your house like the Uber driver if you will he just doesn't even leave he stays at home look at him what if how quick before those guys go blind it seems like it's happening right this that that [ __ ] can't be good for your eyeballs but that's like a medic that's the least that's the least of the problem doing that all day they're like we don't need eyeballs we're just going to drill straight into your [ __ ] Temple and give you these posts so you can strap those goggles on you'll see everything much clear we're all but we're already doing this that's what captures are captures are literally helping Google train their artificial intelligence that's crazy though how many times have you seen it oh train train train bus bus bus thanks so you just help train it with pictures that were random and you helped Google learn what a train looks like [Laughter] it's important [ __ ] man I know like are you a robot make sure you check show me you're not a robot and I'm going to use your data yeah yeah that's funny that it's it's actually training artificial intelligence it's good it's good artificial intelligence I mean it knows what you're interested in buying they'll let you know every time you open up your email no this is not good Joe I want to just hear from Joe My Buddy Joe I want him to say hey this was this new gig with Google and uh I'm on their side now there is one thing technology technology I'm Legit excited about and I'm really jacked and that is what's that uh flying car and or personal uh Vall I don't think you're going to get flying cars because I think they'll sabotage them with accidents I think the best way to control people is to keep them on the ground in grids so you can cut off the grid stop the maze right there and then you can capture them okay if people could just fly around let me let me qualify let me let me qualify um I'm a licensed fix swing and
helicopter pilot so whatever is on the market I Can Fly And I can fly legally and there's not going to be a lot of people doing what I'm doing for a long long long time but really oh it's the regulation exactly what you said flying is not as beautiful as it looks you got wind you got weather you got visibility you got Human Performance you've got um mechanical performance a lot of things it's a lot of moving Parts unless it's completely autonomous it you know you get a piece of paper when you pass that it's for a reason you know it's it's not easy to get you got to learn it and you got to do it and so that's not just how do I operate the aircraft but for me personally CES the consumer electronic show is on right now in I think Vegas they're they're debuting the coolest [ __ ] [ __ ] and it's almost there look at the Jetson one so it's like a one person basically a drone and you can take it right out of my garage go pop up and fly to see My Buddy Joe they're not quite there yet only does 50 mile radius but I think in 3 years in 3 years they're if they figure out the battery technology which is still questionable this is the kind of [ __ ] man look at this what about when people are going to crash into each other Fu that that's going to be decades before that happens no this is for Elites like me and you Joe Rogan I'm going to go over there I'm going to hover at your house hey buddy who you're going to pop up and your Jetson one bro that's wild I mean how easy is it to it flies like a drone yeah that's crazy I think you can um this is real oh no you can buy him this is real $95,000 I think yeah I think this is 95 this is real yeah Jamie doesn't this look fake I think we need to figure it out for ourselves what do you think let's buy one no no no because you'll be you'll be on the schedule for uh 2023 or this looks like a really good video game I thought at first it was 100% And then they showed the thing in the I was going to ask you I was uh YouTube started showing me yesterday for some reason param motor videos par well you got a parachute and and a big fin on your back do you need a license for that or you can just do you but you you can't do much you can't like fly to Austin well the guy I just watched he had like a 10 gallon tank and went up to 17,000
ft and oh I mean but he's probably a pilot he probably has a license all right no none of this is going to be in consumer's hands anytime soon that is a wild looking pie Mach but I could roll that right out of my garage 2023 I think maybe so you think like 2050 people are flying around that's is a proof of concept no it's going to be um it's going to be services so you have like 10 person you know pop pop in so people can live outside of the urban core land on the rooftop that's coming but the regulations and the the lawsuits and we can't even figure out 5G now with these regulatory FAA is fighting the FCC well if people decide to fly drones you know they could fly drones over places but there's restricted airspace like if we get rid of that whole whole idea of restrict If people could just fly across borders everyone from Mexico that wants to live in America going to Mo happen Joe but if we get to a point where those things are more common like borders won't mean [ __ ] if you can just fly around I'm just going to remove that thought we're not going to have the flying cars I mean it's just it's not practical unless we have some new technology but it will all have to be managed in a fulltime grid yeah I mean so that you have scheduled times I mean yeah in the future in a you know in a futuristic movie of course you know we dream about the self-driving car let's make that work first right so you know the air is a whole you got other factors going on no I'm not I'm not saying it's practical but I'm just I'm just trying to look out from here to the eventual changing of all the things we do whether it's Transportation I don't know if I like any of it I mean I'm just getting old you like cigars I love cigars oh beautiful I don't smoke them very often in fact only here I have jig oh with your mug on them yeah Foundation Cigar Company made them for me that's cute wait a minute you know what these are a little dry these haven't been the humidor yeah let's try it um so you're always an optimist no matter what even through all this crazy [ __ ] that's going on you never lose faith possib my optimism right now is that people are seeing what's going thank you people are seeing what's going on and uh there a lighter toe yeah and
there's seeing that we can't fix these institutions with politics look at this introduce introducing the world's only contact lens that elevates your vision Jesus Christ they're going to take your whole eye out eventually they're going to you don't need that [ __ ] ass eye full I it's just I the way they're describing this is AR and a contact lens look for sports use at first which I didn't I don't oh yeah you could probably see way better with that like imagine if you were playing sports and you could uh you had a way better Vision on like where a ball is or something the making of Mojo AR contact lenses that give your eyes superpowers using a display the size of a grain of sand to project images into the retina this startup could help everyone from firefighters to people with poor vision to the government tracking everything you see don't worry it's just hooked up to the grid Adam Cora oh did you really do that that's harsh I was just I was doing it as a government agent I was say what they would say to you I was going to say Adam Curry don't you worry about that don't you worry about that what's important is that you see better he'll be a more productive member of our society you'll be better at everything you do you'll able to see things this is the moment in history where people get to make that choice they trick you with the glasses they charge you with the glasses either either division either we all go towards that future lock step and let other people kind of control the direction we go or we determine some of that ourselves yes I'm 100% with talking [ __ ] no I know but it there's a lot I'm just building my narrative there's a lot there's a lot of young people who are opting out of these systems because it's not all compulsory right you know you you can't there are options you can do other things with your time you can do different types of jobs you maybe go to a different type of of education system look at alternative types of medicine why not people are no longer really afraid to even find each other and organize and hang out and this is to me The Optimist this is where I'm very excited and it's 28 29 30 year olds up to 40 these are the people that I'm focusing on the alternatives are there
check out [ __ ] the Joneses right who gives a flying [ __ ] what they do stop caring about yourself that much what other people think of you and find family friends Etc and Mentor other people you know let's get you know men are a lot of men are doing this this is a silent revolution of men trying to put together new systems some and some are they're watching their taint shrink like well they're seeing the younger brothers dude your taint is on is not cool bro we got to get some beef in you imagine if they came out with the technology that made your tank grow and you just had all these studies of why you want to Long longer taint the marketing would be off the hook hi I'm Adam Curry here with Joe Rogan let's talk let's talk about your there's a solution hello we're 15 I still love that yeah that's what I love about you we're still 15 well that's a real thing though I mean it's a silly thing to make fun of but it's a real thing so it seems like there's so many compounding issues there's that there's um our in insistence of being deeper and deeper integrated into technology and our need for Innovation where we always want the newest best technology we're never satisfied until we get better and better stuff and then this integration with that technology through some sort of a system of communication that can be controlled whether it's social media whatever it is where you can whether it's the news whatever it is where you can control whatever people hear and what what becomes normalized I think the problem here is that the control comes at a meta level so we discuss Finance let's talk about energy now because that's the next control um p that is coming down on us you think that's what all this climate change talk is about 100% And they revealed themselves recently and this was kind of interesting how this happened so we've been hearing you know for years and years and years we've been hearing about solar wind solar wind this is all going to be great and slowly everyone starts to dismantle throughout Europe natural gas you you can no even here in Texas now you can even no longer get a a home that has gas heating or a gas stove it all has to be electricity they're removing all gas gas is e evil
gas is greenhouse gas we can't have any of this nuclear has to shut down everybody shut the [ __ ] up get rid of your nuke plants Germany they're the ones that went all in they closed down their gas plants most of them they just recently closed down their last nuclear reactor and then all of a sudden to the weak the European union says yeah we think we're going to classify natural gas and nuclear as green Investments so there's the reveal Bill Gates has investments in nuclear and they're [ __ ] the Germans because the Germans literally shut down their their last nuclear plant so they realized maybe it was a plan from the beginning but they realized that the solar and wind you can't do it without supplemental Energy natural gas nuclear is the ultimate solution it's not as dangerous as it used to be and I think they gas lit the whole [ __ ] world and now in context I kind of also understand the uranium one deal that happened during the Obama Administration that Hillary Clinton signed off on which gave away a lot of our the US's nuclear fuel maybe this has been long time coming like get all the [ __ ] out then we're going to control the energy with nuclear and gas but hold on when they first started innovating with solar and with wind the people that were involved in those businesses those those were entrepreneurs and engine engineers and scientists that were trying to figure out how to extract the most amount of energy from the wind the most amount of energy from solar and then over time I think they found that there's some serious restrictions like you have to have wind if you don't have any wind you don't have no electricity like I flew by in California once and I looked down at this wind farm and I'll never forget none of them [ __ ] are spinning I disagree about that I think that there was a promise that Battery Technology would Advance along with the solar and wind technology and a lot of Promise including I would say arguably from Elon and it just hasn't happened don't have right but okay fair that's what I meant you meant the Battery Technology all the technology it's really that's that's that's the choke hold is the battery the battery is but it's also the wind
doesn't ex doesn't they don't get much power out of the wind there's all kinds of issues if the wind is blowing too hard you can't overload the grid so they have to turn them off yeah there's that problem too now the real issue and this is what happened in my opinion in Texas when we lost power for you know four or five days the energy that we consume has been traded and um and commoditized 20 times over up to five years ago by energy suppliers this is what urot is it's basically a real a realtime auction every 5 minutes um there's on this side is Austin saying hey I need some energy energy and on that side of the suppliers and they say okay I'll buy yours for $75 a megawatt hour and then after 5 minutes they're looking at these prices and I'll grab yours those prices ran up to $9,000 per megawatt hour just before this all happened and what took this is basically Enron never went away these is just these are just people who are trading energy like its stocks and bonds and because of that no one thought that hey you know maybe we should at least fire up one plant at a possible loss because it takes several days to do just in case the storm is bad they took the risk of the money losing money over everybody else and that's been completely covered up not talked about it's a [ __ ] mess it really and it's just it's just Wall Street bets going on right there not Wall Street bets but like betting on Wall Street going on with our energy Supply and no one knows well Abbott knows the people know you know now climate change activists are using this as Texas can't manage their grid we got a great grid we got [ __ ] who are trading our futures and then German companies not even American or Texan what yeah that is so Bonkers yeah well this is the world when you start to look at this again the problem and one one of the reasons why I appreciate you and many other people so you got the time to pay attention to this [ __ ] whereas most people just don't they just don't the No Agenda show allows me to do this work all day long that's my job thank God you're here I I learned so much from you whenever we talk I'm like what no come on really every time we talk what really what when did they start doing that and I guess you know we don't really talk
much outside but how many of our conversations are me saying what I don't know I I just always come away thinking holy crap I I love what I do I love this it's so it's so fun it's fun I really really really love it yeah mhm it is fun we're lucky as [ __ ] dude well luck we really are I mean it is kind of lucky luck is where preparation meets opportunity yeah it's where mental illness meets an opening whoa deep it finds it finds some way to navigate through the this system where it's it uh seems to thrive I spent very little time in college I went to college three years oh I went three months but it was like uh part-time I was working at the same time and I was competing at the same time so I wonder if we we just didn't get the programming no I wasn't wasting my time I just want I just went to college so that people wouldn't think I was a loser that's literally the reason why I went I went to UMass Boston and so uh it was a city schools like a commuter schools a lot of people had jobs would go to there it was a good school but I didn't give a [ __ ] I just was I was just doing it because I thought it was something you were supposed to do and uh you know I've uh always had this thing where I'll find a thing whatever it is and I become obsessed and that's all I wanted to do and at first it was martial arts and then it became standup comedy but during that time I was also trying to go to school so if I've got that thing where I'm obsessed with I'm not thinking about other stuff and I know I'm supposed to but I'm not and and I thought I'm very similar I thought it was going to turn me into a total loser uh because I thought I wasn't going to be able to keep a job where I had to do things that I did not want to do which is what I thought most people had to do all day long which really is the case for most people so that's where mental illness meets an opening yeah right because a normal person would uh back off of certain controversial issues or they wouldn't they wouldn't speak their mind they wouldn't say something crazy if they thought it was funny they they would they would it's too risky why take a risk when you're you're managing all this' be better if you were less controversial then you get more sponsors and then you have more people paying for things it's like I don't think that's
true anymore I don't I don't think that's real anymore I think we're we're at this point where we realize that whatever our views of our our society are whatever our views of culture and civilization are they're shaped by other people and they're shaped by other people who may or may not have thought this through there's examples of people who absolutely have thought this through and they're fascinating examples fascinating accounts of people who wrote things down that still Inspire us to this day even people who you know wrote the Declaration of Independence and went a bunch of crafty [ __ ] sitting around thinking how do we how do we write down some rules to keep this thing on the rails as long as possible it's fascinating right but not most people most people aren't thinking like that most people don't have the time to think like that they don't have the chance to think like that but these are all priority is I think the difference people have time look this is that's the one commodity that's right there is your time preference is how long you willing to wait for something you know we used to save money now we buy stuff on credit you know also your obligational you know if you if you wait until you're like 35 36 years old and you have uh a deep investment in a company that you've been working for for 10 years plus and you also have a family and you have a mortgage and you have all it's very difficult for anybody to rock the boat but there but there's a lot of people that are opting out of that they're going to live in Yurts and having you know working nonprofit small things you know local stores setting up shops you know just and there's and that's perfect too I don't I don't know what Valhalla is but I moved out of Austin because I I was ready you know give me some acreage and let me uh hang out a little bit I want yeah wake up and hear birds and [ __ ] I heard an owl this morning they're fascinating because everybody wants to think they're cute they're the meanest [ __ ] I remember one time I was flying home or driving home rather and uh this this owl flew above my car and dropped a rabbit on the road in front of me yeah because sometimes when you startle them if you drive by and they have their prey they try to fly with it but then they realize like hey
this rabit [ __ ] heavy I got to let this [ __ ] go and it justang just let it go on the highway so or on the road rather so I pulled over to the side of the road and I got out and I looked at this gutted rabbit like all of his guts were missing to the the owl had torn apart I'm like wow we think of these things is being like these cute Wise Wise give a hoot don't pollute did you know they can swivel their head 360° did you know they know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a titsy roll Pop they can't help but eat we had a commercial where an owl can't help but eat a lollipop remember that like that was his [ __ ] yeah the owl wanted those Tootsie Roll pops but they're awesome Predators look at that sad programming that is still with us to this day they kill a lot of other Predators too man a lot of birds that's why you want them around well you want them around for the for the VAR he's going after that rabbit they just they have this face that looks cute but that's just so they can hunt so effectively at night there's an amazing video I don't know if you ever seen it of an owl snatching a hawk out of its nest in the middle of yes I have seen that yeah that's badass they're Beast bro and then for for every owl there's an eagle ready to eat them of you know well that's the important part because the owl represents the Illuminati but the eagle represents America America man it's funny that we have an like a um um an eagle rather as our national animal they wanted to have a puppy at first going be pit no it was the turkey Ben Franklin wanted I think Ben Franklin wanted to be a turkey yeah I thought it was a the dog for a while it was a dog I think it was a pitbull oh no no no really yeah yeah they wanted it to for us symbol yeah for us to be our national animal yeah I forget when this was I want to say it was like early 1900s which kind of makes sense cuz like if you have a loyal dog especially if you use them in a rural area chasing off wolves and I have one now hunting and stuff back then a dog was like super important especially like in the 1700s and the 1800s you had dogs to let you know that wolves were nearby that was real like you had to really they were going to eat your cows you had to scare
them off when I'm looking it up it says the bald eagle is just a bird and we have a different animal as the national mammal we do yeah what is it American Bison oh that makes sense that's pretty cool yeah um they're just doing that because they're going to Corner the Bison market and stop us from hunting bison and what they're trying to do is bison is better than beef and they're trying to get rid of beef and they're moving beef out and they're going to start with this plant-based meat but really what they're trying to do is get the Bison back and once they get the Bison in place they're going to say well this is the national animal you can't shoot a bison only we can shoot a bison so we know how many bison can get shot and we'll control all the bison and the Bison will be the only way you eat and you're eating tooo much bison your kids are too big look at you you're growing too tall you get less bison move over bald eagle the US has a new national animal oh this is in 2018 16 16 they changed it to the Bison mhm oh these [ __ ] see I'm telling you bro so where we live now I get up in the morning there's like there's like eight deer right right in my property which I could take them out so easily yeah what is the big deal with deer hunting it seems quite simple you just sit in your living room and just blow the [ __ ] away that is not deer hunting those are not those those are deer that live around people yeah deer that live around people are they not tasty they're very tasty you definitely could them 100% just in case the Bucks by the way are [ __ ] crazy right now they are trying they're like like two weeks ago they were gang raping it was insane was scary and then it ends yeah then it's over sh house mad for a couple weeks and the thing about those animals near you is they're only there because people won't shoot them see like if you go to Yellowstone right they just they figured out like if you go to Yellowstone you can take selfies with like a whole like beautiful herd of elk they're hanging out just hang out there so there's a [ __ ] Coca-Cola vending machine and I have a selfie with me in front of it I think I put it on Instagram of me in front where these uh deer behind me I'm smiling they're just these elk rather are just hanging out so
they figured out that wolves won't go to the visitor areas so the elk just walk down the street like if you go to Evergreen Colorado Evergreen Colorado is famous for having elk walk down the center of Main Street where they literally stop traffic and they'll have elk fights Where They smash into each other in the middle of the street it's wild man they crash into people's cars it happens all the time like I have friends who live there who send me videos looking out their [ __ ] front window and an elk screaming on their lawn a big ass elk huge cuz they figured out that people won't hunt them there so they go there but if you go to the woods those elk act radically different they smell you and they run if you they just catch your wind their their ears go up and they're gone they all run off and they bark they go I I foresee a problem because I think there's too many deer right now near me should we be uh getting rid of them if you started hunting them they would go away they would find a place where we might need to do that eventually it just seems like there's too many you know cuz that the Hill Country is building up with non-hunting people like myself yes well there's plenty of people Texas that hunt but the thing about Texas is it doesn't have much public land Texas is mostly private land so you either have to pay to get on someone's land or ask them like some people will let you get on their land have you been to Uvaldi where the the big Ranch is no I haven't but it's I heard it's awesome but my point is that like uh for a regular person it's hard it's hard to get the money to do it you know it's like if you want to go to a ranch and they'll you have to pay to shoot deers whether if it's on public way too expensive at these private ranches if public land a lot of places in this country where you can get a general over-the-counter tag and you have a pretty good chance of encountering a deer right you know decent um but on these ranches where there's a lot you got a [ __ ] 100% chance of encountering deer they're all over the place right so it's a weird form of hunting to a lot of people like a lot of people don't like the the feeders the whole situation but if you want to like get meat it's the best way to do it like if that's what your
concern is like let them roam around and then every now and then when they're eating I'm going to whack one like that's but it's kind of a different thing all right that's how it would be in your back correting me thank you for correcting me so if you wanted to keep my point is if you wanted to like almost Farm what you do is you leave food out for the I don't even know if this is legal so don't do it oh the Fe people have feeders all over the place okay well then it is legal it's probably legal Texas you could buy a tiger Texas is pretty pretty loose with what they allow with Wildlife just saying so but if you did that then you would establish that there was always food there so you would get a steady amount of deer there and then every now and then you whack one but if you whack him with a bow and arrow it'll be way quieter and probably not freak them out as much so like they probably won't even know what's going on one of them just hit whack there's a noise they they run off and then they fall down I told you about the kangaroos right when I went out with the kangaroo shooter in Australia yes you did that was that just too funny man you shine middle of the night Shine the Light kangaroo is like what bullet goes in kangaroo next to him just that like whoa it's uh and for them it's actually kangaroos are odd I think they're fascinating but they're they're very prevalent and and they're aggressive they're very aggressive especially the males some some of them are way bigger too right which one's the big one the red one or the gray one [ __ ] I don't know one of them gets real bigt which is just [ __ ] you don't expect that you expect it's kind of scary if I'm standing in front of a [ __ ] 7 foot tall kangaroo with jacked arms like you're in real danger how much does it weigh you think 300 lb um at least cuz they're beefy those ones that you see that are super jacked I always wonder did have they been like tricking that one into working out like is is that just for the video we have such a skewed view of what the kangaroo is you know and we have a skewed view of Australia I'm so because I did a documentary there in 1990 and I still came away with a mate you know Australian this is this is a knife mate
you know that kind of like like crocodile nunde and then sadly when it comes down to it now all these years later you know they started as a as a prison Colony they're used to being locked down and that's what they're acting you think that's what is happening here I think a lot of its culture look Joe we have the same Omicron here as in the Netherlands as in Germany as in Austria everything is it's the same thing yeah but it's not but hold on a second let me stop you there because no no no no no no we do have the same Omicron but that's not the majority of the cases the majority of the cases right now from what I just read was Delta it's still higher than Omicron it's just omicron's more contagious we're not locked down these countries are locked down they have they're sending people to camps I'm not defending that but I just had to get that out because I think that is what's going on I think there's there's this perception that it's only Omicron out there right now but that's and that's fine you know but my point is that the Delta is scary that's more dangerous this Omicron thing seems to be pretty mild but that Delta one's scary so I get people being scared but the rules that they're doing yes there's no way they should be able to there's effective treatments if you get it yeah there is effective treatment and they should be pumping the [ __ ] out of those monoclonal antibodies those are super effective they're suppressing those you know that right nuts man they are suppressing it in I've seen the emails in the health systems yeah uh we're limiting supply of monoclonal antibody however the new fiser oral pill is really quite effective here's the statistics you should prescribe that so are they handing out that fiser pill already Yes is it good does it work who am I to say I wouldn't take it maybe it works man I don't know well you have to take it with an HIV medication yeah there's all kinds of weird [ __ ] around it I don't like yeah what if they said you got to take it with Molly you got to Rel lighten up buddy this is what we're going to give you a little bit of this little bit of that I've never done MDMA Molly anything like that I only did it once and I still think about that day no what a day no no no no I'm not
interested why are you not interested in feeling love holding people's hands just lying in the sand like it's the best day of your life just ah just sand you're like my wife keeps telling me why don't you have come to our place and we'll introduce you to mushrooms together oh I'll do that done okay let's do it done have you done no psychedelics never well I've done DMT twice oh what the [ __ ] are you talking about well I don't know me been to the motherland I don't I have no that was that was very cool by the way that that's a good way to put it being a stoner being a stoner you know used to kind of like hazy and there's just like this fresh wind and oh my God the carpet is alive that's kind of cool oh I see your energy hold on a second I'm just put that over there P Jamie catch the energy yeah and and I like that it was it ended 20 minutes of course you were dead tired for 48 hours after that really oh I didn't like that part at all I didn't get tired at all I didn't feel any of that I felt zero of that it was a while ago it was [ __ ] physical tired from the experience and being overwhelmed where it was like a psychological tired no no just my body felt tired I don't know that's maybe you got impure stuff cuzz A lot of times people that are making it like it came from the druid was the actual tree bark it wasn't it wasn't no I I certainly am not interested in doing synthetic DMT well here's the thing um from what I understand the synthesis of it is quite complicated I mean it's quite easy for someone who knows how to do that kind of stuff but to an average goon who wants to start making DMT it's not easy to do for for an average goon doesn't have a background chemistry I'm I'm Pro uh MDMA hold on please let me finish so the point is some people probably don't do the best job this is this is not my idea by the way this is explained to me by my friend who knows these things he said they don't do the best job of making it pure and you can tell often times by the differences in the color of it and that the the better versions of it more synthesized versions of it when when they're doing this whole process are like a lighter color and as they get darker and darker they they might have other [ __ ] in them meaning other plant chemicals and compounds that they haven't like extracted out this is again
[ __ ] I don't know if this is true but the way he was explaining it to me that's why a lot of people don't feel good when they do it cuz you're taking it it's like if you smoked like uh Maple Leaves if you rolled Maple Leaves up and smoked them you'd probably feel like dog [ __ ] you know you'd probably feel [ __ ] horrible like who knows what's in those things that you're taken into as opposed to like sure cigarettes which people are accustomed to then still can make you feel like [ __ ] or marijuana which is like normal right so that's probably that's possible I just thought that at the time I was sold on the comes from this guy he's the Druid and he got it from the tree bark so I kind of believe that maybe I was wrong I was misled no it's probably just not the best version was it brown I don't remember put it in the bong yeah okay the bong's weird well and for months after that that smell oh yeah oh my God the burnt plastic it's whatever is like you walk past oh my God DMT over there and it was like not appealing but it was so distinct it's like just oh my God that's I smell it sometimes like I was in a hardware store the other day and I smelled it and I know it wasn't real I mean I know it was just a smell I was just and it made me like a flashback no no no I think there was a smell and for whatever reason my brain said oh remember the smell of DMT like almost like made me associate it with it right like close enough just close and I'm like not good scary not good but I didn't have any physical uh aches or pains afterwards but I wouldn't be surprised Ian I wouldn't be surprised if it hits people different ways too like I know people that have gotten high and then the next day they're wrecked just from marijuana yeah oh oh totally Yeah the more you smoke the less you need basically to get high is my experience yeah for sure or going longer periods in between but I I kind of like just micro do my way through life in general micro doing mushrooms is a great move great move I was talking about marijuana microdosing mushrooms is a good move too though man it's a good way to get it introduced to it too also just like being complet just clearheaded and enjoying a good meal with a glass of wine you I like that too it's not like 247 no no no I'm not that's the cool
thing about micro doing you stop like okay I'm done now it's good micro doing with mushrooms you don't experience much in terms of like there's no like I'm high now it's like this weird slight elevation this is why people like the micro dose because it allows you to completely function normally like I've had many like completely loose conversations with some of my favorite people and they told me they were micro doing it's a very very common now amongst Silicone Valley people and a lot of tech people they're micro doing both LSD and mushrooms and they what they'll do they'll get somebody it shows in their actions hey we need to roll that that that gang up there I don't know I don't think that's they're all high that's probably the only thing keeping them from going [ __ ] full crazy remember when they were all um conservatives and were reading ion Rand what was was that that was that was kind of uh B from Bush to Obama and that became really unpopular overnight that like everybody was handing out uh Atlas Shrug to to their employees and this is the way to go objectivism and you know like Freedom it was kind of still the information fre much more conservative leaning which a lot of Silicon Valley really is because of course the just the amount of money you know so they're socially liberal because it's a good posture I think most of them now are in total capture there's no you mean how can you be an investor in Google and be a republican you know I don't think that's possible anymore you can't sit on a board people just [ __ ] with you no I I think that's that's that's TR you can't get investment investment Joe back to the think right but when it comes to um money they're very conservative in terms of like using offshore accounts and the way they you know structure their taxes they they're very rightwing in that regard right like I would argue that's actually I would argue this actually has nothing to do with left or rightwing that's just conservative I should say [ __ ] Rich right and rich people are generally in that regard conservative America has double standard you if you're you have the money you can beat the rap if you have the money you can not go to jail for financial crimes that's just a fact
and the little guy which you and I are part of even you we would get [ __ ] yeah no you got to pay them tax you got you pay that B I don't care how you structure it you got P I hear about people not paying their taxes I'm like dude listen this is not a good idea pay the [ __ ] taxes finally good to see Wesley Snipes back on the screen after he didn't pay his taxes and didn't he that wasn't that why he went to jail all kinds of crap happened to him I think he had a bad advisor oh yeah well it was it part of the sovere I think wasn't part of the Sovereign man movement where it's tax hasn't been ratified yeah and so but I'm just happy for the brother he's back you know he's back acting he's kicking ass in that Kevin Hart series we just started watching that's I'm a big fan of that dude even though I was supposed to have an MMA fight with him at one point in time oh really you would have kicked his ass I don't know who knows I think so things happen people punch each other in face you could still do it now cuz you know you're a little older you look all cool you look all little old and cool and [ __ ] you know you could just bulk up train I'll be in your corner holding the towel dude you don't want to get hit when you're 54 you don't want to get head kicked at 54 it's a terrible idea it's a terrible idea could literally could change your whole life like the reactions believe it I believe it I know you're kind of joking around but just for the as a general rule your reactions are slower you don't like no matter how good you think you are even if you look fast you're not as fast like I'm pretty fast still but I'm not as fast as I was when I was like 19 or 20 it's not even close and the difference is you don't you're not as fast in getting away from stuff either and if you get head kicked at 54 you might wake up a totally different person you might might wake up like really sad serious depression Oh serious depression happens to a lot of people with like severe head injuries and believe me getting head kicked is a [ __ ] severe head injury it's severe if someone wheel kicks you in the face and knocks you unconscious I mean it's like getting hit with a bat and when people get hit with a bat like they're they're [ __ ] man they they lose memories they have like severe problems
sometimes with their endocrine system because their testosterone shuts down because apparently shock to the system yeah when you get rattled like that your pituitary gland is very uh very delicate and your pituitary gland gets rocked like Dr Mark Gordon covered that with all of his TBI Arch that people that were like kicking down doors and blowing up things in in the military milary sure lots ofin tra football players a lot of Fighters and that's where this this this all comes from is that the brain's like super Del there's like real good therapies that they've devised like magnetics and some other stuff with hormone replacement and stuff but make no mistake about it like getting hit in the head is [ __ ] terrible for you this is why I always protected my head with a big helmet of hair nice I tried I did my oh I didn't I didn't mean it that way I'm sorry no your hair shaving me no not at all I didn't mean it that way no listen that's one thing that I'm not insecure about anymore I was when I was younger when I was losing my hair but now that I've shaved my head I wish I could have shaved it from the beginning I would have definitely shaved it from the beginning it's so much easier well I it took me decades to just cut it short just [ __ ] cut it and and now I'm like oh my God I I I actually get my hair wet wet under the shower I used to have to shower like this cuz my oh it would take forever to dry to tease to spray lovely locks you have matured from a beautiful pretty man you said a perfect gentleman like you're like establish a still Fox an established gentleman at your age when when you were young you were boy pretty but you still managed to be intelligent I was I was so I was not boy pretty until until I got on television I was awkward had the wrong pants on had shitty hair how is that possible you're [ __ ] beautiful this is this is my God damn it Adam cry this is my Swamp Thing appearance this was Hollywood uh shut your mou Curry I can't look like that you're beautiful you're beautiful I think I was um 20 25 26 yeah perfect age you're a goddamn Reich Peach yeah look at you yeah look at you fella you know well how that's what I love about your direction like the the way you've gone with things everything's decentralized the way you do your podcast the way you have people kind of donate and support
it the way you have everything set up it's really fascinating I can't wait to welcome you back I'm eventually probably going to have to go to something like that brother I'm there for you I take care of you we make that [ __ ] work we'll get you paid in Bitcoin in real time bam value for Value streaming Satoshi it's fine right now though everything right now is working you're good now of course but you got negotiations coming up obviously I'm not worried about that but I'm I'm even thinking about that I think got great people around you what I I don't think about yes I do but I don't the way what I think about is like keep doing it the way I'm doing it yeah and try to make it better that's what I think about like try to get more interesting people on and try to talk to them he's a real lighter looking man when you going to light a cigar you should use a torch sorry I just have a wimpy yeah thank you don't be wimpy bro um well that's all but that's why you're so great because you don't I don't think you've ever you're probably like me at a certain point whether you were making a lot of money or not you probably just stopped worrying about it yes and that was probably when you didn't have all that much and you just went I'm just not going to [ __ ] worry about this that was my Fear Factor days cuz uh I could stop thinking about it cuz you're always worried when you're an actor in particular that you're never going to get cast for things work yeah and then one of the things that I thought about With Fear Factor like oh this isn't even a [ __ ] acting gig like how crazy is this that I can I can that was written for you man that was [ __ ] written was that an endo production yes it was yeah yeah yeah I know John you know yeah oh they're nice nice folks all those people all the people I work with are really nice the um producers and everyone it was it was a cool place to work and it was also like I didn't I didn't take it seriously that's how I got the job I went in there started making fun of everything like they wanted a spooky host like what you were about to do face and I was like dude you're sticking dogs on people what the [ __ ] is wrong with you how can you not be and I showed up for the first meeting high as [ __ ] cuz I I didn't I I didn't think it was serious I was like
what are they like what is this was it was you just like okay this could run three episodes who the [ __ ] knows I had been given a bunch of wacky pitches as me as the right right right there was like a pilot I did once me as the um a judge on like people's disputes and I had to like like with humor and there was a comedian that was my sidekick who was the the the cop so there's a bunch of wild pitches like that so there's another wild like like Night Court almost yeah so this was Judge Judy type deal but funny supposedly but probably not but this so there's been a lot of wacky pitches so when this one came my way I was like what are they going to do game show where they're going to make people eat bugs like what the [ __ ] are you talking about so I said okay I'll I'll go I'll go down there and I was making fun of it but um uh my buddy Herz he's the reason why I probably wind up getting the gig I'm more than sure is because he was like guys this is ridiculous he's the only one making fun of it we can't have someone serious have someone make fun of it because the audience is going to be making fun of it at home definitely part of the cultural demise that was it totally once we got people eating bugs on television for Fun and Profit that's why they're coming brother you're going to be eating bugs on your burger bun that's what's happening is you bugs are decent protein starving but let's eat some steak yes from that protected bison who we just saw there only if it's United States killed bison we have to kill it we have to kill it personally with a big [ __ ] Cannon they distri bison the way they distribute monoclonal antibodies don't get me started too much bison your children are too strong and they're winning at football this is inequitable well yes Joe that is exactly what's happening that is exactly what's happen we're going to evenly distribute the Bison throughout all 50 states just people can just opt out and when you and when you see someone who's kind of waking up don't ridicule them I'm not talking to you I'm just talking in general people ridicule people they drag them on Twitter oh you said it all wrong last time take right embrace them yeah Trinity and NEOS pull them out of the sludge into the goo it's hard for people
to admit they made a mistake it's very hard it's the worst of course hard of course it's really important you got to do it and I'm sure I'll have to be admitting mistakes in this show for a long time cuz I always make mistakes yeah I make mistakes all the time and I I have no but there's also there's mistakes not just in facts but there's mistakes in philosophy like you could have a bad idea of how things should be and you've committed to that bad idea and you defend that bad idea and you haven't really had time to just sit down and think it through in its entirety objectively divorced from your own adopted opinions the opinions that you took on that you're defending and divorce it from those and just look at it and that's hard for people to do because we're so [ __ ] tribal and these these these ideas whatever they are get locked up into a group you're on this group you believe this you're on that group I had a long argument with a friend of mine once about abortion it wasn't an argument it was like a weird conversation where they were like it's it's always a woman's right to choose and I said okay but what about when the baby's like eight and a half months like is like is that isn't that a different thing is it a different thing when it's five cells than it is when it's 8 and a half months I mean I don't I'm not saying what depending on where you're coming from didn't want to admit that M it was a thing where he didn't want to discuss it I said okay listen I'm not a a pro-life person I'm I'm a I I believe a woman should be the one who makes the decision if she wants an abortion 100% but at a certain point in time it becomes kind of crazy right like admitted that when the baby's about to be born the day it's about to be born if you decide to kill the baby hours before it's born while it's in the womb that's a different thing than an abortion when a baby is like 6 hours old right when or when the the the sperm has cracked the egg I believe so right it's different he didn't even want to say that and I was like but this is a thing right this is a real thing I'm this is not a value I'm not making a judgment about what people should or shouldn't be able to do or what law is I'm just saying don't you admit there's a difference between those things and then the resistance of even
discussing this was fascinating because it was like someone who had like a spell around them and they couldn't there's no I can't discuss cannot discuss like do not talk not talk about this one thing like it didn't want to acknowledge that they're different because if you do then you set up the narrative that abortion is murder and that abortion should be evil and that you now you're a pro-life person and you don't want to be a pro-life person because they're The Crazies that attack Capital that that's the January 6 people right so there's these ideologies that are attached to these things in this way that's almost inescapable if you're if you're on team blue or if you're on team red like you you got to stick to these [ __ ] thoughts well well unfortunately uh both team blue and team red in Texas created this controversy specifically for this election this law that was passed is I don't think there's any reasonable person that can think that you know you're you're 12 weeks in or whatever it was six weeks just some six weeks that I mean no reasonable person can think that that's reasonable for detection leave that as it as it as it is then the whole which was not true um you can rat on your on your neighbor and the Uber driver can report you that turned out to be not true you can sue a clerk who issues a license it's the whole point is it's not about the actual choice of a woman or the life of the child it's about who [ __ ] wins the election and that's what they do and I hate them equally for that that's what they're doing think this was my Rick super cynical tinfoil hat thought I was saying if I was like a progressive person I would promote some ridiculous law that's definitely going to get overturned that way people get up in arms I think I think the Republicans in Texas slipped and they let this one happen do you think they let this happen because the Democrats let it happen so they'd be able to hammer the Republicans in the 2022 midterms that's what I was asking yeah exactly you nailed no it's not tin foil hat you're you're now a political consultant are you a fed he's [ __ ] dragging me into the most ridiculous ideas and I agree with them I know you're uh you're influencing are you an influencer yes this this is the issue is
and it's been driven we are afraid to sit down and have honest conversation yes I'm honest with you 100 [ __ ] per. I know you're the same with me right now at this moment when I do it with moax we're honest and we're very different he's black I'm white both American men little age difference dvor I can Curry it's honest my wife and I we talk honest people need to be honest with each other the truth has been lost we're we're hiding and without without sitting down and just being honest and saying we're going to love each other after this whether we agree or not let's just talk let it be said now that I recognize right now that Adam Curry is a spokesperson for big mind reading this is what's going on because once big mind reading comes along you don't have to worry about being honest because everyone's going to read minds you're going to promote this technology it's going to be decentralized mindreading technology I should have brought more weed for Adam Curry I forgot he's I have my own all day smokers have my own are you an all day guy pretty much cuz you you put me under the table in this podcast we went through that one blunt and when we were three or four I like that I like that the most actually the blunt hello world one of those I want to take one of those I'll give you one uh paralyzed man post Tweet using only his mind yeah I saw that thanks to brain implant yeah well that's how they're going to get it with the uh neuralink as well Elon has uh openly said that the best use of that would be people who have had spinal injuries they're going to they're going to have regained full function I thought that what was also that they might be able to reprogram some things if there's been some kind of neural pathway break so not necessarily that you are hooked up to a machine but they can actually do some reprogramming and fix certain things yeah fix it to make you more friendly to an ass no [ __ ] assassin Adam yeah Manan candidate type deal okay so Jack Ruby back in the day we can look it up exactly when they were giving away free labotomy in Central Park and people lined up to get their labotomy where they literally would drill a hole they go in they pull out your frontal lobe or whatever that
little thing is and people were happy because they had heard this is the thing I want where is this is there in New York just look it up frontal labotomy uh I'm afraid to say but it's going to be around here we go oh scary days when thousands were lobotomized on Long Island holy [ __ ] 195 58 to 1974 holy [ __ ] M you didn't know this no this is why Americans are weird man we buy Nikes and we take vaccines let's read this wonder you have to wonder about Henry brill's sanity a Yale educated psychiatrist he was a director of Pilgrim State psychiatric care center or Psychiatric Center from 1958 to 1974 during the later stages of his tenure the world's largest mental hospital he would was a national leader in the fight against marijuana head of the state's drug abuse commission he rallied against the evil impact that marijuana had on people's brains big talk from a guy who D around 2,000 Pilgrim patients were lobotomized in the 40s in the 50s holy [ __ ] but there were people going willingly to Central Park you know where they draw caricatures of you hold on but go go back go back go back go back okay 2,000 Pilgrim patients were lobotomized in the 40s and 50s according to the lat reports from the New York Times and elsewhere though labotomy were probably performed at Mental Hospitals in Central Islip and creedmore among other places one out of every 25 labotomy performed in the United States took place at Pilgrim making undoubtedly the scariest place in Long Island holy [ __ ] man but this is this is just the technology that was being perfected but when they were out there saying hey you should come and take this people like oh I got a labotomy and so they did it for free so they would set it up where you didn't have to be diagnosed you I think you paid for it you paid for it yeah yeah brother imagine well Americans are interesting people well if you don't pay for it you don't think it's worth it it's like how they figure out tickets at comedy clubs you give away free tickets people don't care about show they come to the show no of course they come but they don't pay attention they don't really care that's you don't want those [ __ ] they don't drink either yeah that's the future of nft is the future of ticket scalping you watch that is wild man yeah Isn't that cool well I
guess in the 40s and 50s they thought this is like some of these people you just can't fects them just get in there and [ __ ] but the people were legit just like you know I'm unhappy have you ever I've never seen a lobotomized person communicate have you Joe Biden boom he's not the bottom they just planted him in that pet cemetery the top of his head has been off two or three times yes yeah yeah yeah it's got to be some concern hey it's a miracle of modern science that you can get the top of your head removed and still be the commander of the Free World put it back on and it works great it works great 40% agree um Noy do you find anything about a lobotomized person communicating they must have like a video of you could just talk normally for sure I haven't I don't think talk normally but I don't think I've seen that I don't think lobotomized people necessarily well let's find out oh okay I'm try to get see to the Book of Knowledge YouTube it is YouTube I mean there's got to be a video somewhere of uh someone who's been labot who's a interview of loty Pacman o let me hear this right okay like what okay before get it going what's your what is your um prediction do you think the person will be slow or do you think they'll be distant you think you'll be able to tell yeah I think it'll be a little woolly they'll come across as kind of woolly you know oh yeah wo wooly just kind of their brains no just kind of like a like a like their gauze in front of them kind of like oh yeah that's okay oh yeah Joe Rogan that's really good seems like there's a popular one it's coming up a few times a guy named Howard that was lobotomized when he was 12 by this guy sure that's going to be [ __ ] crazy but he's talking at least the look oh boy the video is crazy because you see the kid when his eyes are puffy after they lobotomized him is this Howard right here yeah that's him talking so I mean he seems to be pretty coherent what just from that one one second with no audio Jamie you're you're a fed I'm surrounded by feds problem you were right not me the other two said I was just a normal kid in fact several times looks pretty normal that ass needs a labotomy give me some volume so I can hear I have it up as loud as I can get right now for
some reason I probably was seen three times by see kind of what I said where's the hole is very personal there's no hole come on that's so they would that's the [ __ ] up part about it which I looked when I was looking this up recently cuz there was some stuff it was still going on in the 70s and ' 80s they go through the eyeb they go through your eyeball ice pick there you go oh Jesus and they just scramble it yeah so I think I think before that Jamie I think like the turn of the century is when they were really doing it fulltime in New York City W there's the tools like they stick miracle cure see miracle cure miracle cure oh my God miracle cure baby now there was um anesthetic right back then right general just Jam that [ __ ] in man no general anesthesia have some have some bourbon when was general anesthesia do oh my God oh my God oh my God described as easier than curing a toothache look but look at the guy with the [ __ ] sleeveless shirt on he's like hey I got out of the [ __ ] gym look at that he's hammering that thing into the eyeball and they're just holding her hands down look at that guy to the upper left he's about to do that on a prostitute later that evening he's like duly noted oh look at there's some politician standing there too what's that guy doing in the middle those are the guys that presided over the Warren Commission report look at them look at them this is wild oh my God at least those people have gloves on well then now I support this tactic he mask that's [ __ ] cloth mask oh what's going on here oh my God that's the electroshock therapy oh God damn it yeah and again they do it with these Guido shirts on got that big bruise there someone didn't like it Sho guys are insane guys are crazy we're crazy look at this they're cutting open heads cut open head cut open Heads there that one they just cut open and they just drilled they like tried different message I read that this guy Walter Freeman gave he gave most of them is what I was reading with a sleeveless shirt what the [ __ ] man he was doing 100 a day at one point I imagine you show up and the guys and you're like why do you uh have no sleeves he's like I do so many in the bottom me my [ __ ] arms get hot he's like he's sleevess like
he's at Gold's Gym so but just imagine the news the newspapers are like this you see it it's like this is great [ __ ] and Americans of course you went it's great [ __ ] man everyone's doing it let me get a [ __ ] labotomy right it helped me help me this is our culture we have to be cognizant of that it's not necessarily healthy well when someone's cranked out on opioids isn't that some kind of a similar type of a deal it's not a labotomy but it's most certainly a reduction of who the [ __ ] you are and you you just drop into a days a trance op opioids is really truly evil I mean the problem is you can't stop getting off of it you from what I understand you literally feel like you're dying like you are dying it's very hard to stop and that's the problem so the mislabeling all that [ __ ] is what caused the problem and continues to cause it I haven't done it you haven't done it now according to Dr Carl Hart who I respect dearly deeply it's life saving for some people he's a different character and his his take on it is that getting off of OPI it's is like a flu it's just yeah he's like it's not that big a deal and he said it's greatly exaggerated by pop culture and the way and and then Gabor mate when he talks about addiction he said most of it's tied to trauma I mean some of it is clearly genetic that sense with some folks it's clearly genetic like a whole history of alcoholism in the family and that people you know we all know those alcoholics that they have one drink and then [ __ ] shark eyes they're like they're gone and they're like they're they're whatever the [ __ ] goes on in that alcoholic it's a different thing like they have a couple of drinks and they're gone they're not even there anymore you're like hello like they they can't communicate with you they're whacked out they're gone well I think that is we got to take that into consideration when it comes to heroin or but for Carl when he was a and and I hope I'm not [ __ ] this up but he was a very straight laac guy he wasn't into drugs then he became a clinical researcher and during that time period when he started really understanding the mechanisms around these drugs and what they actually do and then all the unjust laws like the difference between the sentencing for crack versus cocaine
which is crazy because he's like they're exactly the same thing in terms of the effect on the body and he was explaining all this stuff to me he's like he loves heroin he says heroin's wonderful he goes if you get Pure Heroin he goes it's beautiful it makes you appreciate things makes you appreciate your relationship it's like it's like that's not the heroin's not the problem the problem is that it's illegal that you're buying stuff that's laced with fenel the public perceptions of it the way we look at drugs and his idea is you don't want a world that's drug free you want responsible educated drug use and when it comes to a guy who's a professor at Columbia a brilliant guy who by the way looks like he does a lot of drugs he's got like crazy dreadlocks is he an influencer well he influenced me I mean not not that I tried heroin but it influenced me to change my thoughts of what you know we have these ideas about how hard it is to get off these drugs well for some people it is right like for some people you can have you can get drunk and you don't want to get drunk again some people they can't stop well clearly no medication is good for everybody that's just unlike you know unlike the MRNA which is one size fits all what's your number um so I can't speak towards opioids or heroin because I've tried neither there I think there is a difference but most importantly when just being lied to and just being told that you know there's no addictive properties to it when your dosage is just upped and upped and upped and up at a certain point I think that I I just wonder how much of that detoxing is painful or not I mean I've I've only heard contrary to that opinion no no I'm sure the flu sucks don't give me wrong the flu is [ __ ] painful right if you you've had a bad flu it's awful your body aches you're sweating like crazy but what he's saying is it's like that you get over it it's not like that you can physically live yes of course but two drugs you can't alcohol and benzo diap pan those the Benz the benzos are the Dangerous Ones yeah that's the Jordan Peterson story yeah oh my God what a story that is it's amazing story [ __ ] is that it's an amazing story especially when you realize how smart he is and that he didn't know and he got roped into it and then he couldn't get
off of him oh there's a lot of very smart people who are doing really dumb things right now and they just don't realize it and and you know yeah they're either uninformed or misinformed underformed and over socialized that too that's a real problem in our society well especially when it comes to uh the idea that everybody should be taking something to like control their mood and control their this and control like maybe maybe some people should be how many how many kids in your daughter's classes take meds at some point during the day you know what if I really started digging around I'd find that information I don't have it I don't know I know a couple of teachers in in Austin and it's a lot well I don't know anything about that but what I do know is that I used to have a family that lived uh fairly close to my house and their kid they put them on something real early on and I don't think he needed anything he seemed like a normal kid he just had a lot of energy and they were deciding he had too much they decided he had too much energy and so we were all like you know the people that knew the kid were like what the [ __ ] like you can't say anything and you don't know what to do and you don't know if they're right like maybe they're right maybe he does maybe we only see the best version of them and maybe when he's I don't know but it's scary to think that he could have been just a normal kid with too much [ __ ] energy and bouncing off the walls and the parents didn't want to deal with it or maybe just normal kid energy just seem just seem like a lot kids are like puppies they have wild [ __ ] up energy and they tear up especially boys think like if I was with the wrong parents you know when I was young I would have [ __ ] for sure been medicated and then people like well that's good you should have been medicated I don't know if that's correct cuz I think that there's a whole reason why we have all those wack W ideas bouncing around inside of our heads it's what made a human being Elevate from what it used to be a million years ago stunting people's brains you're stopping it from thinking I mean how can that be good you got to have people that want to become mathematicians and you got to have people that want to become
rock stars you got to and you got to let them be whatever the [ __ ] they want to be and some kids they don't have a lot of energy but they want to sit down they want to compose music that's all they want to do some kids they just want to do back flips off trees and you got to both of those [ __ ] kid kids you got to kind of like figure out what works for them and let them let it's the spice of life this variety of humans but when you're a kid and you're in school they want you to sit down and pay attention and if you don't they're going to [ __ ] drug you yeah another part of the system that has to be changed yeah it does it really is it does kids got to be kids man but it's hard it's hard for those little [ __ ] well growing up a kid today with all the [ __ ] influences and all the the the craziness and you know all the bizarre aspects of our culture and the interconnectedness of it and these kids are going to look like [ __ ] Pioneers they're going to look like the people who settled West to get gold in comparison to kids that are coming along a 100 years from now if they take control of their own experiences yes if they continuously allow and most unwittingly if they just don't know if they allow other entities artificial intelligence whatever it is control their experiences without human uh experience which usually works between humans that there's that there's forces that are changing that which is kind of what Twitter is with algorithms Etc yeah yeah that's just not going to turn out good it doesn't feel like it'll don't think that'll be a good thing do you think the fear is and and this is like a real long-term concept the fear is that one day we'll decide that whatever does make us human whether it's our emotions or hormones our desires and greed and jealousy and all those different things are all problem and they're not helping us achieve our goal and all those things can be slowly edited out because think about all the damage that emotions have done think about all the crimes of passion and all the fighting and all the hatefulness if we could just tamper those emotions and get them into a far more controllable vibration and we can do that through crisper or whatever the [ __ ] they decide
to use or whatever neuralink or whatever whatever whatever the new jazz is that comes along influencers if they can figure out a way to say that What Makes Us human our ability to emote our ability to scream and to play Crazy songs and to tell funny jokes and to write meaningful poems and all that stuff is a complex like mess of [ __ ] that we can't control and it's led to the the demise of our civilization what do we love we love being together and and love and camaraderie and we don't need emotions we just need love so we're going to engineer out the bad parts and keep Only the Good parts and by the way love is love it doesn't matter who you love it doesn't matter love synthetic love has been proven in 16 different trials to be just as effective as real love that's right now you can get your fifth booster of love it will make you die 20 years earlier but those 20 years suck be great that' be great take me out at 80 who wants to be 100 I'm going to be 98 98 Dum just under Betty White out of respect of course I of respect it's my number now my grandparents would got really old that's a good number and I both had hair yeah do you eat healthy you uh yeah oh yeah very healthy yeah beef fish almost no pasta yeah that's the move man um uh yeah you know raw vegetable and raw we you know we just buy vegetables cook and then in Fredericksburg where we live there's some pretty damn good restaurants who are really cooking up some good [ __ ] that's nice yeah that's really nice having good places you can visit that are near you and that's also Isn't it nice to support like a a nice local restaurant get to be friendly with the people know the weight staff hi everybody it's nice I love of course of course yeah and but people are seeing this Silicon Valley people are the first ones they're like [ __ ] you know Elon starlink is up I don't have it yet I'm on the weight list um I can live anywhere I want I can weight list yeah I've been on it for two years probably what's uh the hold up not enough satellites in space you know he has some blanketed is that good no this is a total military project Elon is just selling it to us as cool internet which is great but you think he's a part of the military Elon everything he does is for the government yes what are you
saying he's a great guy for that he's a great pitch man for for you know for to in technology if you're going to innovate don't you think you have to he he didn't invent Tesla he didn't invent SpaceX he he's he has Vision he understands how to explain it he's very good at that he's quirky he has a whole bunch of great elements you know that just are the perfect guy for our era it's it's it's amazing to be alive at the same time as him is he the big innovator no I don't think necessarily I think he's you know he has a big Network behind him Sequoia Capital there a lot of people involved in Elon Musk for sure in in my opinion and I I that's just who I I just think it's like yeah he's a very controversial person but he's a very nice guy I'm sure he's a nice guy his uh his ideas I mean if you looked at just the amount of innovation that one guy's been a part of and some of them are crazy like the not crazy like dumb but I mean like insane the idea of a a tunnel that goes under la like and they shooting people through these [ __ ] tunnels with cars like how does someone even come up with that well I even registered at one point data belt.com because I was sure that we would have a belt of satellites around the earth now was that far-fetched no obviously not was I unique in thinking that clearly not am I the guy who somehow got into the right place with the right investors with the right pitch with the right story no that was Elon Musk so do you think that I mean but but to be sure overall his contributions are a net positive or A negative neutral I I think on the entertainment scale very high um in terms of his tweets well also what he's been doing with Wall Street and how he's [ __ ] with them all the time and um he's a very precarious influencer particularly for crypto very polarizing there for a whole bunch of reasons you've got you know there's enough conspiracy theories about him but all I know is what I see see I see the whole SpaceX thing is all US military the satellites in the sky we're going to have great internet I love him for that great marketing to the people meanwhile that's your [ __ ] space force that's your Skynet will have everybody surveilled all the time is what I feel that is here's what My worry
is that that'll be a way they keep us on planet Earth they just blanket the sky with satellites so it's impossible to leave brother show me one billionaire that can actually get into F get get just send something to the Moon [ __ ] send something alive to the moon and then I'll then I'll believe that we can go off world I'm very skeptical now man you're very skep there's enough money for us to replicate something that happened 55 years ago are you skeptical of the potential of it happening or are you skeptical about whether it happened both W both well the Van Allen belts you know now the new NASA scientists who don't remember the original moon landings I guess like well it's going to be hard to get through the Van Allen belt you know hum it's a lot of radiation well how the [ __ ] they do that in that tin can with no computer nothing they just went up there and it landed and it worked and I went deep into this for many years one of the ways supposedly they did it is the Van Allen belts have openings in the the top and the bottom of the Earth right yeah well why don't they just do that again why hasn't Jeff Bezos figured it out I don't think it's that easy man I think it's like whether or not they did it just look at the advancements and Technology between the first moon landing and now I don't understand how the richest men in the the world can't replicate something and they just well we're going to do Mars why not the moon I don't well no they're planning on doing [ __ ] in the moon but people okay before you even do it with people they've definitely done it with objects they've definitely done it with satellites so they they have the technology to get something there the question is whether or not they have a technology to get the in today's day get a biological entity there and back right but we did it right so so yeah that's the that's the thing okay the the ideas that we did 1969 that's my only question I give I really don't care I don't know if the moon is real man it could be some [ __ ] thing that's just up there geez sure Joe I mean I've looked at the Flat Earth the crater Earth I've looked at the at the everything I've looked at all this stuff you know what I really don't know you don't know if the Earth's flat I don't want to get into it cuz it's just
polarizing with you think the Earth might be flat I think well it's not round for sure it's well they don't think it's round it's ellipse but you know think think think when I look at the [ __ ] pictur it's hold on a second we got to be clear it is round it's just not perfectly round if you had like measurement devices this is where my wife is going what is the shut the [ __ ] up ad going off the rails don't do it ter there's a term of what the Earth and that's my work wife elongated ellipses or something like that but that's just technical but listen it's it's in the in a round shape a shape of a sphere it's just not a perfect sphere it's it's by by very minute numbers it's off right like overall like because if you look at it it looks Circle right I really don't know I don't know what my lion eyes I don't know what I believe anymore because Ang song You Can't Hide Your lion eyes um it's just hard to know just looking at the the pure facts on the face of it about not returning to the moon no other country has done it with a human being it just that just seems [ __ ] up now that's okay but I then also have the right to explore other versions that have been told which includes crater Earth which is even what's crater Earth the the Earth is actually a much larger planet and we are living in a crater in it and that's wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute we're in a crater I'm not saying that I'm saying I have the freedom to explore is the whole universe the Earth and then we're the crater in the center of the universe is that so the Moon is Essence if you look at I'm just telling you the theory right this is conspiracy th we should say Theory when it comes to creater Earth let's just say the wacky story as you wish I feel like theory is it's a little little lofty for this one okay maybe I a whole bunch of YouTube videos with a cool voice over taught me and it was like eight hours long 8 hours long I watched all that [ __ ] were you non-stop brother but eight 8 hours and and the voiceover is like how did it happen why did this go away have you heard of the giant trees that's my
favorite oh yes I've heard the giant love the giant trees think I find the giant trees compelling made of silica s off made of silica but that's sought off devils devils Devil's robod they used to be a giant tree yeah it's just the base of a tree and it's all of silica which is sand and it's Fant there you go uh it's all over the place the problem is but that's not crater Earth that's that's uh giant tree earth right I get it but bro the problem is that looks like a tree come on man I know when you look at it though it's perfectly OCT octagonal in shape off let's not say perfectly if we're going to call the Earth not round okay let's be consistent here Jesus Christ he's so inconsistent all right give me another one of those I need something we don't have anything right here everything's in the other room what the [ __ ] all you got some on you don't you don't B out your own we have plenty for you I'll give you some as you're leaving Bogart my own I would never Bogart my own okay I'll take care of it sensitive and now you're taking me into outer space what are we doing we're black screening here no tree Earth and um crater Earth what I like the most about these videos here's this is about the energy so there's this one video this is so [ __ ] cool and you've seen the pictures you've seen the pictures of Manhattan around 1900 and and there's these beautiful big buildings fantastic [ __ ] and then the streets are just squalor and people with horse driven crap and the video says how did this get built what happened what Happ why are the streets just mud and all these beautiful buildings when did that occur when were those exact what did it look like then where those pictures and they there's I'm just telling you how this video is put together it's pretty slick and they show all these pictures of completely empty streets and so the theory is that there was a water event but really the very severe one but that electricity used to flow through canals everywhere wait for it from the churches the church steeple which now has a bell tower that's where a ball of mercury used to be and listen to me cuz elon's going to [ __ ] patent this and he's going to sell it to us and then that energy they pull the energy from the
ionosphere that somehow it interacts with Mercury then they would distribute the electricity through Tesla's principles through the Earth and through water that they used to do this look well we know that Tesla had this idea of broadcasting electricity through the air but people that look wiress electricity but people that look at today's elonics think that that would be horrendous cuz then if he had done that and implemented that we would never be able to use all these electronic devices and all the things that we have today because they'd be constantly interfered with by this electricity flying through the air or would they develop new technology that interacted with that electricity and it would just be different than what we're accustomed to I believe that most of Tesla's wireless energy was flowing through the earth side of it and not through the air side really yeah I believe so some wires and [ __ ] no just so you think this might be resonance well there's a lot of you know you know I have a ham radio license so I know a lot about high frequency in radio waves and there is the ultra low frequencies which is like aund like like something like a 700 foot antenna or some [ __ ] like this these ultra low subsonic frequencies a lot of experimentation going on and that actually transmits through the Earth so you transmit your signal and it goes through the Earth's core to the other side and that's where it's received so that's more my understanding of the technology Tesla was using but you don't think the Earth is living in a crater right we don't think we really I have no evidence to prove it no of course not but it's one of the weird ones to entertain there's a lot of people out there oh yeah yeah yeah you know if you want to believe in the heliospheric model that's fine what's that one that's the globe the globe the globe the round earth are you a globe head that's what Flat Earth is called Globe head they call us heads yeah people that believe the Earth is I think there's more important things to think about I think uh there's some theories that maybe it's a waste of time to go over just saying maybe that's one of them but it's interesting to watch what people get
obsessed with the Flat Earth thing what's fascinating about it is how many people got obsessed with it and then eventually kind of gave it up a lot of people gave it up what I get interested in is a lot of the biblical uh parallels and references very very I have a lot of Believers in my life and I question them on all kinds of stuff certainly what we're seeing now you know compared to Revelations and there's always been this kind of Doomsday which is maybe why I have never connected with God is because I'm such a [ __ ] Optimist I'm not quite sure what it is uh but I recognize the connection people have and and there's so many parallels with a lot of these quote unquote conspiracy theories you've got to wonder you know what's what's the conspiracy what's the story right who knows we really I don't know you don't know I just want to live my life be happy and make a better one for the kids man there's a lot of people that are studying the shape of the earth and they sure pretty sure it's not flat I mean we got if those trying to influence me joean cuz you're fa satellites are spinning around the Flat Earth you're going to have to come up with a whole new explanation of how they [ __ ] stick up there well when you see the clock and you understand how the the star system would rotate around the flat earth oh Jesus and then the sun and the moon are counter poolar then you would understand it a little better but I'm not a it's a lack of understanding on my part I don't understand it either but I do watch it and I do enjoy all these different theories I really think that's interesting I have no problem with that what's the difference between taking drugs and watching uh you know friends reruns or taking drugs and listening to someone talk about how the Earth is flat for eight hours no not just it's much much I used to love Art Bell show when Art Bell would get some guy calling up saying he's a time traveler I'd be like really wow listen to this guy and would go tell me about the future I think that's feasible yeah Time Travelers yeah sure what do you think would happen if time travel was invented well how do you think it would happen like if if all of a sudden out of nowhere time travel is invented in our lifetimes how much do you think the world changes Back to the
Future would be a documentary I think it's way crazier than that Adam Curry I think let's just presume that it's that it was already possible in the future and we're living in the past I mean you can go on forever but why wouldn't you Weare of a guy named Dr Ronald Mallet you ever heard of him I don't I think he's University of Connecticut see if you can find him he's a fascinating guy and he's um a professor that is when you hear him talk it's almost like you're watching a superhero movie and a guy has like a superhero origin story this is what it is like his father died and he became obsessed with time travel because he wanted to make a time machine so he go back and see his dad yes so this guy came up with these theories of of time travel that apparently if you have enough power you have to have some a massive I think the first guy to come up no no no Kurt godell I think was the the first guy to come up with the idea of of a functional mechanism that could actually change time that you could actually go back in time or go forward in time but the amount of energy that you would need is just impossible to imagine and then with this guy seems to have concluded is that even if you go back in time this this professor even if you is it Ronald Mallet is that his name even if you go back in time you you can't you can't go back if there's no road so from the moment a time machine is invented from that moment the moment it's switched on that moment till forever time ceases to become linear stops right it ceases to become linear because travel is available to anyone from the future to now from now to then any stop in between you can't stop time if if there's no regulations on it if it becomes prevalent like cell phones the world becomes a completely different experience for everyone Life Death birth childhood mistakes erase them go back live in that timeline they intersect with people's timelines where they're coming in from the past the future it [ __ ] the world up it [ __ ] everything up it [ __ ] if but that this is what I think is one of the scarier ideas about technology I mean you want to talk about a thing that would completely change the way human beings interface with the universe itself it's time travel because everything that people can figure out
from now until as long as there are people will then be ported back to where we are now and the understanding of it will be brought back to it and then who knows if you'll ever even be able to achieve Innovation because you're going to be constantly dealing with people traveling to and from different time zones to and from different time periods like all simultaneously all happening all I think it's impossible for us to imagine how Wild a time machine could be if it did get invented because it's not like I'm going to go back and steal all the gold like no it's like everybody's going to do that stupid everybody's going to do that at every second of every day ever well this of course leads us right to the ultimate answer which is we're living in a simulation a simulation that is controlled we may control pieces of it um I know that when I look at you I see Joe Rogan and I could recognize you I know that when you look in the mirror you see Joe Rogan it's a different guy it just looks different I mean this there cuz I see the opposite of me it depends on a mirror just it's no it's just that's how we we perceive the world in individually this is you know the remember the white white silver dress blue dress oh yeah people perceive the world differently and you're nudged from all directions to you know it's like something you heard or didn't hear what is he saying and oh if you if you put it in my head that's what they're saying then I'll hear that I mean all this kind of stuff um is we perceive reality different all the time all the time that's a fact and that's also one of the weirder things about people with mental illness right like what is a schiz when a schizophrenic is having conversations like who who's he having conversations or are they in a whole different plane of Consciousness which is perhaps a lot cooler and we're just seeing the external interpretation that we make or are they trapped in two Dimensions or in the middle yelling at probably I don't know maybe maybe there's more than two Dimensions I'm pretty sure of that so in wrapping this up cuz we've been 3 hours do you think holy [ __ ] crazy man I love talking with you I love talking with you too you are great you are good for my ego you are good for my soul good for my heart and
good for America and the world Jo well you deserve all your props as I've said many times you are the original podcaster it's very important to people know that it's like without you this whole thing wouldn't have happened they might have come about but it didn't came out of you you know yeah and Dave and Dave Wier but you were the original guy that made it popular like and what it is now is very it's very odd it's a very odd form of communication you know it's very uh it's weird that this thing exists and that it's so popular well that's what's so cool about it it's like RSS which is the the basic protocol of podcasting and it came from blogs that's what Dave Wier invented um is just has just proven Unstoppable every everyone makes them they're all over the place they're very handy they're easy to understand they're easy to implement and as long as you have a server where you can put an R which just a text file and an MP3 you got a podcast because we now have places where apps connect and can you can help you can find stuff but even even without that just a [ __ ] MP3 on a server people will find it they'll download it I mean that is true Independence and truly freedom of speech do you think we'll get to a point in our life time where the power of these decentralized entities will Eclipse these corporate controlled Medias because if you think about the amount of influence that a decentralized entity could have that like people just living life and that you you're already decentralized from the mainstream media you yourself yes you're under a different corporate distrib no you're not because I know it's they don't own you they own licensing to do something exclusive for a while but you own you as far as I'm concerned yes right so but whatever deal you did however it works you are decentralized from the mainstream broadcast systems technically and certainly from the mainstream narrative so you are to be preserved I'm you are to be protected because this is showing the way that anybody can do this and no you may not be have the audience size of Joe Rogan but you get a thousand people that matters who thousand people who really care who really listen who by the way might support you with five bucks a month you're in business if it's
something that look if we can't all do an entertainment show but you're not you're doing something you're an educational show yeah that's not an accident sometimes it's entertainment it's always entertaining no it's always entertaining because you you're an Entertainer but it's education it's something that has never existed like this ever that's what's weird right no it's beautiful that's thing of [ __ ] Beauty yeah yeah for sure so yes decentralization it's Unstoppable they will try and stop it they'll try to do legislation they want to make schooling harder they'll make we've already seen the control they exert over the medical community do you think that this the attempt to exert control and the exposing of it is going to be the ultimate downfall of these institutions because we're going to realize that it's not a good idea to have them have the kind of power that they have it's not a good idea for them to be completely influenced by these corporate entities that structure The Narrative that Force us to adopt it's not good as far as I'm concerned it's collapsing already yeah it's in it's in slow motion collapse it's complet everything's collapsing healthc care is collapsing education is collapsing my God the biggest um uh deficit we have on our balance sheet is $ 1.7 trillion doar of college loans you [ __ ] kidding me this [ __ ] is done it's done and people are coming out disillusioned okay I got $100,000 in debt I got this piece of paper nothing and what do we see with the with the jobs Market oh only 3.9% um unemployment but the labor participation rate the people who are actually in the market for a job fell off a cliff didn't something like 4.5 million people quit their job recently sure yeah that's wild there's too much money in the system people have have stimulus money they got cash May some gigs on the side they're figuring life out they're going to find something else to do that's good that's good in my book but it's not what the economy is in real trouble in Austin there are now three restaurants that I used to go to for you know over 10 years closing for good South Congress Cafe closing for good of course we'll get new ones in there a lot of them can't get employees can't get employees destroyed just in general from
the from the lockdowns and the restrictions we have to rebuild a new middle class and it's going to be diaper washing services cuz that shit's going to stop too you're not going to get diapers eventually I guarantee you this is this crazy [ __ ] ahead but that's what's good because that will wake people up and by the way we can feed ourselves we can figure out how to do it we can uh collaborate with people except these people that are living in these big cities and they're the ones that are deepest the trans no they're dead they're dead They're All Dead they're the deepest in the them and their pets but isn't it fascinating that those are the people that are the deepest in the the societal trance is the ones are in these Urban centers are we surprised no no we're not surprised but it is fascinating that they're the most terrified the most disconnected from nature they are building Their Own Prison openly and with joy open air prisons mhm Adam Curry you're the [ __ ] appreciate you very much um tell everybody how they can watch and listen to you uh you don't have video for of No Agenda do you no what you don't want that [ __ ] no [ __ ] no no okay I like theater of the mind I like people being able to I like to manipulate my sound and all that stuff pick on you if you start getting shitty looking No Agenda show.net and uh anybody please check out a new podcast app new podcast apps.com it's it's not a pro for-profit thing it's to protect ex enhance and extend podcasting and your Twitter handle is Adam Curry all right but more me I'm on the Mastadon Adam at no agendas social.com what is Mastadon again that's the distribut that's the that's the decentralized Twitter baby that's where that's where all the kids are going join that get off the getter I got to get off the getter nah you can stay on it just another thing they can get [ __ ] they can take it off the app store I'll get that too all right thank you brother we need a Joe Rogan Master do no no no no maybe bye thanks brother thank you sir appreciate you brother you too bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]