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[Music] so this dude right here is travis walton and he is one of the most famous ufo abduction i don't know if you want to say victim guys of the story right and he gave me a bobble head you ever see that movie was the movie called fire in the sky yes yeah that's about him in the night about him yes in the 1970s he was a lager in arizona and they saw this light in the sky it came down they went to see what it was it was his craft and he was a young you know according to him just kind of a knucklehead and he got a little close to it that's the movie and he got close to it and when he got close to it uh supposedly according to him some burst of energy came from the thing and knocked him back knocked him unconscious all his friends took off they panicked including one guy who hated him one guy who actually got into a fist fight with him that day so it's not like these are his friends that he like had this coordinated story with um they they took off they were freaking out and then they came to their senses like we got to go back we can't leave him there they went back he was gone and he was gone for five days i believe it was five days i've always been fascinated with ufo [ __ ] but i feel like so many people lie and it makes it so hard like i literally lied about when i was a kid i remember like being in the car and like i was probably eight or nine and i was like i should just tell people i saw a ufo so i said to my mom i saw a ufo as we're driving and then that was my story for years until i was like 13. yeah it's it gets extra attention that's the problem with fantastical tales whether it's ghosts or psychics or any of that i was going to say psychic same was like it makes you special makes you a guru i have a buddy of mine who [ __ ] full-on believes in psychics he's like bro psychic knew all about my grandmother and i go don't you know about your grandmother i go you know i go so what the [ __ ] tell this person to tell you some [ __ ] you don't know
right so that's my mom so my mom as long as i've been alive has been super into mediums psychics had them around and like i've always just felt like that [ __ ] was [ __ ] because they would tell her things that i just knew weren't true so like when my dad died she sought out this medium who claimed to connect with him and the medium wrote her a letter that was things from my dad that he was saying to her from beyond right and like kind of stuff that's the thing it was nothing he would have ever said it was like i don't remember it was just some fluffy [ __ ] my dad was not a fluffy person and it was like this [ __ ] is like to you but it's disrespectful it's crazy maybe he got fluffy once he died i mean released from all the spiritual you know boundaries the the things that are tying him down although the human body problems maybe i guess he became a [ __ ] after he died or something and then i became a [ __ ] after he died do you uh think that one of these things this is uh travis walton's aliens do you think that this this is the thing the problem that i have with these little aliens is that they make sense it's like this is this is what we're going to look like one day you actually see humanity slowly morphing into this everyone's becoming a little more feminized everyone's going a little smaller yeah and i think our heads are getting bigger they definitely are from the time we're lower primates and i think that if they can figure out a way to replace breeding right like part of the problem that people have is the instinct to breed and like we have the same the same biological impulses that animals that can't talk have right the the the idea is to protect your young to make sure that you can pass on your genes to defend your territory against intruders that's the same same instincts that chimps have but yeah we have nuclear weapons and cell phones yeah when when you look at you know little aliens like that it's like you have this almost like inner feeling like yeah that makes sense that makes sense and then you see ancient like archaeological drawings and art and it's like why have they just kind of always
been around i don't know yeah but that image has always been around yeah i believe in them more than i believe in psychics i'll say that i don't necessarily not believe in psychics but i don't believe the ones that are getting paid that have like a neon sign outside their house oh yeah for sure and and but that's what's like even more unbelievable is that people would believe it like well the crazy thing is imagine if it was true if like that was the best psychic there was actually just a person in the house and they didn't care if you believe or not believe them yeah but you go in there i mean that would be like a stephen king movie right you go in there and they really do know some things they touch your hand they really can see your past and see your future and see where you're going yeah yeah i don't know i've always avoided that [ __ ] because i actually talked to a psychic on my youtube channel and she told me i was going to get pregnant so it's not going to happen lol right i was like this [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of my house with a house call today but who knows maybe in like [ __ ] 20 years no no no even if it's a thing i'm not opting for it because that baby's coming out [ __ ] up that baby's coming out you say that now but with crispr and i think that there's going to come a time where like if someone is trans that you are going to be able to opt for a procedure that will switch you chromosomes switch you to a double x or switch you to an x xy whatever you want i think you're going to be able to completely manipulate bodies oh yeah for sure that's definitely the trajectory we're on yeah i just don't want to be maybe the first thousand people to do it no because that baby's coming out with like no arm or like is trans themselves there's also a [ __ ] psychotic yeah imagine the baby comes out with no emotions at all or just starts killing you from the inside like a shark do you know like sharks sharks will eat their siblings inside the womb there's like i don't know if it's true i've never even found out well i've heard it so if it's not true people just say it yeah but i mean what i meant was there's like an x-ray of sharks in the womb and they're all like ah mouth
open like a bunch of them swimming around together i'm like i wonder if that's real or that's horse [ __ ] i never looked down jamie will find out i don't know whenever i have questions i don't even bother googling them i just wait till i come to work exactly when i ask jamie exactly seems accurate it doesn't really yeah is there an image of it that's really oh wow that's what i'm talking about i gotta get it on tape that's a different thing there was an x-ray image of like looked like a womb filled with a bunch of sharks floating around in there really yeah i think that x-ray image was not real well do sharks here's the question do sharks lay eggs like a regular fish yeah yes or do they give birth to fish eggs i'm pretty sure they like it too so then it's not possible that it that they eat each other in the womb because they wouldn't be oh yeah in the womb i'm sorry so yeah that's why i thought that so this says they eat hatched embryos will begin to eat surrounding eggs in some cases like sand tiger sharks oh that makes sense but see i find that so much more interesting than the conversation about aliens is like life underwater and how much we haven't discovered how much life just exists here like i'm a lot more fascinated with this planet than i am like the universe in some senses i'm a lot more fascinated with the universe yeah but i'm pretty fascinated with this planet too it's like did you see that i put something on my instagram a couple weeks ago this thing called a telescope fish that literally can swallow something bigger than itself is this crazy little demon fish that lives like 5 000 meters below the surface of the water it's like this crazy deep water fish that has eyeballs that look like binoculars and this [ __ ] swallows imagine a person smaller than you swallows you exactly just walks up to you and just goes and opens his [ __ ] crazy mouth and sucks your whole body into it that's see if you find that that's not look at this thing well i got a video of the shark eating his sibling in the world oh oh well give me that oh that's good you're trying to figure out what this what's happening i can't tell what's
happening in the video oh that can't be real right well i mean that's in the womb right how's that in the world that's what it says but i don't know that's what it is god damn it youtube i thought those were the grays it looks like the crazy yeah that looks like aliens yeah yeah i don't know if that's real right all right i mean look up telescope shark um no it's a telescope fish it's uh it's on my instagram but just a couple of pictures of it but if you just google telescope fish i think it's a fairly recent discovery because that's one of the things they say is like they've only discovered like percent of the ocean very small look at that [ __ ] look at the little that's real wait it's kind of cute though look at that it looks cute until it swallows you right oh my god so what happens to its body when it just kind of expands yeah it expands well this one on the left is an art picture yeah that's not this is from smithsonian so that's a real phone yeah that's a real photo and that one in the middle is a real photo that you had highlighted earlier that's fake i think that's fake i don't think that looks cgi almost yeah but i think that one up in top is real it's kind of cute kind of looks like me in the morning a little bit look at that i mean that looks like he's got binoculars that looks like a guardians of the galaxy like alien 1000 that doesn't look real those things live on the bottom of the ocean that's why it's always so interesting thinking about like underwater life because these are the aliens that already exist you look at a jellyfish like that's a [ __ ] alien yeah octopus is a [ __ ] alien you ever see when they change colors and change yeah they're nuts they're not like anything else on this planet the cephalophones they're they're like uh something from a science fiction movie they can literally stop on a reef and become the reef right and then snatch sharks the way they eat sharks you ever see that no
i've never seen octopus eat a [ __ ] shark yeah they were trying to find out there was an aquarium and um i forgot where the aquarium was but they were missing sharks like the [ __ ] going on they were missing sharks and so they thought like someone was breaking into the aquarium and stealing sharks so they set up these cameras and they found this octopus who's just like what laying in weight and then sharks would swim by and you're like [ __ ] i didn't know they were even capable of that that's crazy they're they're crazier than that the female octopuses regularly eat the males so what the female octopuses are matriarchal they're bigger than the males and one of the things that they do is occasionally they eat males but not always so there's they observe this one octopus pair the male and the female they mated 12 times and then when the male went in for the 13th time the female's like that's enough and killed them and ate them and then stuffed them into like a reef and like ate them over the course of like several days feminism [Laughter] but it's uh it's a hard world out there i mean when you're living in the ocean there's no indoors see that's that's the shark getting jacked by the octopus oh wow yeah it's just wrapping yeah google it from the uh rewind does it show that you're sort of just someone buy it yeah it shows but shows them snatch it so the thing's swimming by shark thinks he's the king of the sea and the octopus is like literally looks like a part of the reef until he swims by and watch this [ __ ] oh [ __ ] yeah have you seen the um nature's metal instagram account yes dude half the time i'll just be scrolling having a good day yeah and it's like you're not supposed to attribute emotion to it because it's emotionless but at the same time i'm like oh my god my dad's [ __ ] i just saw like a gazelle getting ravaged by a whatever a crocodile yeah exactly that's the craziest [ __ ] is when they know that some of them are going to get killed by crocodiles and they all have to make it across the river and you see the crocodile's heads just poking up and moving towards them and they're just
running and hoping that they get out of there oh look at this one that's a jaguar with a crocodile in his mouth it's pretty yeah it's a tough world out there yeah i'm you're seeing more wildlife and nature [ __ ] than ever living here it's like everywhere you go there's roadkill i was driving the other day we're in austin i was driving the other day and um there was just this two beautiful elk in the middle of the highway definitely not elk okay whatever they were deer they were deer but they were just dead you could tell they were freshly hit i literally was like oh my god but that's well this is the ru we're in the middle of the rut the rut is probably actually not the middle this is the end it's probably over it's right around thanksgiving is the rut and what the rut is is when they breed once a year it's one time a year they get some action and then in the spring the babies are born so right now is when they get after it and so they get really stupid see it looked like a male and a female one was significantly larger and i was like this happy couple just died did they both have antlers or no one one did yeah so it's probably that um that the male probably chased her out into the street because he's trying to get some more she's like [ __ ] and she's just trying to get away and she gets hit by a truck and then he's like boom and he gets hit too yeah but what's scary is like you can die hitting one of these things you know what i mean it can go straight through your windshield so i'm just ever since driving past that i'm very aware cause i'm already a bad driver my buddy lives in oregon and a man behind a man who hid a deer died so the guy in front hit a deer the deer went flying through the air the car behind it the deer went through that windshield and killed the guy [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] really shitty waiting cause it was in the air yeah he's going 65 miles an hour and this this [ __ ] 150 pound mass of meat and bones and antlers just hits him in the face just shattered his brain and god snapped this wild fish is real by the way oh it's real sarcastic fringehead what a
weird name sarcastic what's sarcastic i don't know i thought to make sure i won't kill you a psych look at this look at that mouth [ __ ] wow that's cool it looks like without the mouth open yeah the ocean is filled with it's monster soup it's filled with [ __ ] wild creatures yeah but the thing that fascinates me about space is there's an infinite amount of planets out there that have an infinite amount of species that's like it's not just what we have in our ocean which is pretty [ __ ] crazy and interesting but an infinite number of those things out there and an infinite number of creatures that are terrestrial as well as underwater where would you say it's probably the nearest like some people say europa i've also heard the upper hemisphere of venus is the closest to earth-like conditions which i don't know how that is but is that real yeah i've heard that what's the closest to earth-like conditions like the temperature really yeah they think venus at one point in time wasn't that hot because the surf i think the surface is extremely hot like they've sent down rovers they got melted within seconds just being on yeah i think at one point in time it wasn't though i think all of it has changed over time like mars at one point in time used to be hospitable like to life they think that people think we came here from our zombies there's a lot of people who think there's the dogon tribe in africa that their whole lore is about that we came from uh from mars and they just found or there's like pictures people are speculating there's like a cube object structure that they found on mars like no that's on the moon oh the moon yeah that's uh china is actually investigating that right now they have a rover yeah they're beating us at everything do you want to learn mandarin are you just going to give in what are you going to do i'm going to give it i'm going to resist as long as i [ __ ] can i thought it was really interesting recently finding out what china's doing with the algorithms with tick tock so you have like you look at kids in america and their algorithm technology scrolling and
it's like someone with green hair telling them they're like a demi boy and like learning about all the flags and then you go to china and it's like science experiments and like [ __ ] that makes you a better person yeah well not only that they won't allow children to be online using apps after like 10 years yeah it's like from 10 p.m to 6 a.m it's there's a lockout and then what they're exposing their kids to is all like kids doing incredible things science projects great sports accomplishments they're showing positive role models which that part i'm like why not why not uh the lockout i don't know but they're very strong they like they have this national pride of china that's directed by the ccp yes that has its benefits and it's it's negative the negative is that they're controlling what's acceptable and not acceptable and then any dissenters get locked up and killed that's not good right right but then you think about i don't know i'm just looking at what's happening to like gen z and kids in this country and so much of the [ __ ] they're being indoctrinated with and you look at them and it's like well they're not going to have that problem maybe some other problems or at least don't have that problem what do you think is causing all of the the issues that people in gen z or whatever you would say are having that maybe generations before them didn't have to deal with what do you think is the cause of it well i think one of the main differences between how i grew up and i'm only 28 it's not like i was in school that long ago um but it seems as if there's a lot of just based on what you see online like activists that become teachers and they go into these classroom settings with the intention of teaching kids about lgbt [ __ ] about critical race theory um it seems as if people specifically have gone into it to indoctrinate people whereas like i remember all my teachers it's like they avoided being political at all costs because they knew it would upset parents and i think that's kind of the way to go not entirely but i think
that's healthier yeah it's weird when people don't have their own [ __ ] together but they want to teach kids yeah it's like it's like i'm not against people talking about anything in school but i think that the problem is when they're indoctrinating children into an idea and they're saying that this is right and this is the way to do it like this is really clear right or wrong like hey don't steal don't rob don't kill people don't rape there's don't don't start arson there's a lot of like real clear yes and no's but then when it gets to certain issues it's like some people have different religious beliefs some people have different social beliefs some like it's good to talk about them but you should be able to have someone from both sides discuss it like i've talked about this before but when i was a kid when i was in high school there was this guy named barney frank who's a congressman in massachusetts and back then he was in the closet but since then he's come out but he was the left-wing representative and there was a guy from this group that was called the moral majority the moral majority at the time was like they were like a right wing they were kind of goofy they they were right-wing but they were sloppy like the the the ideology wasn't well formulated and the people that bought it they're like sort of like cueing on people without the conspiracy theory they're goofy right i mean they're yeah so this guy and uh barney frank debated in an auditorium in our high school when i was like 14 15 years old and it was really interesting because we got to see one guy who had this like very staunch right-wing perspective and then barney frank who is much more articulate and much more ill seemingly intelligent picked his ideas apart and had a much better presentation and we got to walk out of there and talk about it and have our own opinions about things that doesn't exist anymore it doesn't exist anymore now kids are getting in instead of getting educated as to the pros and cons of different perspectives a lot of kids you know
obviously depending upon the school they're getting indoctrinated into these ideas and it depends what city depends are you in a blue city in a blue state red city red state red and a blue you know what i mean but also like i guess it's just the fact that there's not both sides shown to a lot of the [ __ ] like for me i don't think there's any reason why preschoolers need to learn about lgbt and be shown all these flags it's like you see pictures of teachers in classrooms with like every possible variation of like lgbt flag non-binary like all the [ __ ] with like five-year-olds and it's like to them it just looks like really cool colorful [ __ ] that kids are naturally going to be attracted to yeah so it's not a shock to me that you have like little kids now identifying as lgbt when you can make the argument that like that's just society progressing so naturally more people will identify but like five-year-olds and the same massive leap it's been used to be like zero point zero one percent now it's like well but it was zero point zero one percent how many of them just hit it well that's for trans though i don't know but it's not just for trans i mean for whether it's gay lesbian trans anything like how many people hid their sexuality or their sexual preference or or what their identity was a lot for sure um but because the interesting thing is in the past it was always kind of like a social net negative to come out it's like your life only got harder you weren't praised in the way we are now it's like society only knows how to do like extremes of anything it's like used to be total shame and getting jumped and beat up because you're the [ __ ] which was my life as a kid and now it's like five-year-olds being told like they're like an inspiration and a hero because they're non-binary and they're gonna go on hormones when by the time they're 11 it's like just chill when did you feel if you can remember when did you feel like something was off that you were supposed to be a girl
like five five yeah i remember being in preschool like my earliest memories in life were feeling like the only way i can describe it was like a very intense misalignment between the way i was perceived and the way i had my self-concept um so i would say five uh but obviously i didn't have the words to articulate it at five was that when you first started going did you go to preschool so was that when you were around other kids is that when you start feeling it yeah um first of all i mean preschool is kind of like the earliest time people even have memories but also like that's when you start being socially separated by gender it's like you know i have a very vivid memory of like the boys cubby area where you put your backpack in your schoolwork and the girls and it was like the girls was pink the boys was blue and that's superficial but you start to see the division really early and i just had this inherent sense that i would never be able to fit into like a maleness ever i don't know why and the feelings only got more intense as i got older then i hit puberty and it was like oh [ __ ] something's really off like holy [ __ ] like um and then eventually at 18 i started making the steps so there was never a moment where you were confused as to whether or not this is the right thing to do there was it was always confused as to why am i a boy um there is definitely confusion and trepidation about like is that the right thing for me to transition that's like a huge decision right i think is taken like way too lightly now um and things have changed really quickly with how that decision is treated in society uh but i guess i just had it was just a progression of like understanding it more and more understanding like why am i uncomfortable with being called him by people when i'm literally him like why is that something that would make me feel uncomfortable why is that something that would cause me stress or anxiety um and it just got worse and worse and
worse and i considered living with it i thought maybe i'll just live with it but it got to a little bit of a breaking point where i was like god damn it do you remember the first person you reached out to about those i think my mom but i've always been the kind of person like once i decided something i just decided and i just go so it was it was almost like a very non-casual call i was like hey mom so um i think i'm gonna transition and see you at christmas so this was a phone call when you were not at home you weren't living at home anymore yeah i had moved very briefly to michigan for a boyfriend was a horrible relationship but um yeah it was almost like casual and i think people weren't necessarily shocked because i was always naturally very feminine my voice never dropped i'd i was called a [ __ ] when i was four everyone saw four yeah everyone's all before me i didn't know what's bad everyone did like i didn't know what a [ __ ] was but i knew i was one so a little four-year-old called you that oh yeah all the kids yeah jesus i grew up in a very um like small sheltered town which has perked in a place called corning california very northern california the most red part of california people don't realize that california is san francisco yes l.a san diego and kentucky yeah it's literally no one even pays attention to the very top half and you go up there and you're like oh people live different here it's not yeah it's not even the top half if you drive from la to san francisco it's kentucky yeah yeah and it's a whole lot of nothing and [ __ ] farmland with like [ __ ] joe biden signs everywhere it's wild yeah that's what's what's crazy about like as a lifelong californian until recently it's like it's always just this thing where like la pushes the narrative of california and san francisco pushes the narrative of california but yeah it's really far from the truth so i grew up in a in a small town where i was like the town weirdo which was totally fine i think it prepared me for the life i have now a little bit but um so everyone saw it before me basically no one was shocked
and did you grow up with your was the nuclear family intact was your father living with you yeah i had a mom and a dad and a half brother and how did the dad feel about everything uh he died before i came out so i don't really know he yeah i died of cancer when i was 19 and i started transition officially at 20 28 now um my mom has been supportive i don't really talk to my brother not because of that but because he's a severe drug addict and out of jail i was the only person in my nuclear family immediate family that wasn't addicted to some sort of substance so but that's the case with like small kind of towns like that it's like what do you do it's just meth it's like i didn't there was no bowling alley no walmart wasn't even a walmart in my town people just did math it's what you did i've never done math but meth is like so industrious they get everywhere 100 percent jobs don't get everywhere but meth gets everywhere it's happening yes and it's how people get through life in those towns yeah oxy meth something anything yeah it's it's hard when you when you see people that come from these like very rural towns where there's not much going on and they don't have any hope and yes there's no like you know that people live a different life in other places but you don't know how you could get to those places and what i mean what do you do save up money try to get a job when you move there like just just take a chance and yeah it takes a lot of courage that's the the main thing when i i think everyone kind of checks up on like people from their past from their high school family members whatever so i'll go on facebook and look and like the main thing i see in a lot of people from my hometown not to bash them because it's whatever is like a lot of hopelessness and a lot of like never really left the town like my mom she visited me here in austin the other day a couple weeks ago and she was like this is only the third state i've ever been to i'm like you've only been to california oregon because it's next to california a literal like four hour drive from where i grew up in texas like that's just crazy to me and she's
like in her 50s it's like how do you but i see the way it shapes like their worldview too you know what i mean because they haven't seen the world that's a lot of people it's a giant chunk of people a lot of people they get out of high school they they do whatever they do whether they go to school or whether they go and get a job and they kind of stay around where they are and you know and then they have this sort of very narrow view of the world because of that yeah and they don't necessarily understand your experiences so i moved to la a few years ago and i was there for five years um and like when all the riots happened in 2020 i remember calling my family and just saying like hey i'm sure you're seeing the news i'm sure you're slightly concerned for my safety the city is on fire but i'm actually going up to the mountains i'll be there for the foreseeable future and then i'll come back when things calm down they're like oh but you're not racist so you'll be fine right i was like you think these people are just walking around just attacking racists like no how do you feel about affirmative value they're holding a brick how do you feel exactly it's like okay so what you don't understand is i'm by no means this group of people's favorite person being antifa black lives matter i've literally had antifa up to my speaking events before um so i'm why have they showed up at your speaking events they say i'm transphobic what you don't know wt that's the dumbest [ __ ] thing [ __ ] stupid that's like me being anti-male that's so stupid right and you'll get called trans while we're having me on and i'll get well i'll get called transphobic for everything yeah well exactly me too that's what's so [ __ ] stupid about it i got first called transphobic because of the fallon fox thing because that fighter that was beating the [ __ ] out of uh biological women without telling them that she was a man cracked one of their skulls within like 30 seconds bragging about it and i was like that's [ __ ] crazy and people
are like you're out of line you're you're a bigot like what are you saying and granted i used uh a very inappropriate language and very colorful language to describe this because i was furious as you should be but i wouldn't be and here's there's another recent case that people brought before me like this is outrageous [ __ ] of a guy who i think he was a ranger or a seal like super [ __ ] jacked like ripped dude who transitioned and became a woman and fought this woman i don't have a problem with that zero problem with that because it was her decision just like i don't have a problem with people riding bulls i don't have a problem with people free diving with sharks do whatever the [ __ ] you want to do but the foul and fox things she the opponents didn't know right exactly the first two fighters didn't know that she was a biological male for 30 years it's [ __ ] up and she said that it was a medical decision it was a medical issue and it wasn't any of their business that's what i think your sex is a medical issue it's just kind of a state of being that and it might be important to certain situations like if i go to a doctor's office i always find that it's very important for me to tell them that i'm male to female transsexual because there's going to be certain things that they need to maybe scream me for for my health or look out for that are specifically to biological males and those are things that yeah i can change a lot of that but not all of it but at least that is like patient cl patient physician relationship and no one's getting assaulted yeah it's but it's also it's it's private this is a public thing so i think her perspective was that if she tells these people that she was a biological male for 30 years and then transitioned that she'll get publicly persecuted and people will be upset but you got to give people the opportunity to say no like i don't want to compete against someone like especially in the level of competition that she was facing in combat sports specifically yeah but it's also like it's low-level combat sports it's like once she fought she she fought a biological female that kicked her ass ashley evan smith who eventually made her way to the ufc
um who was talented like very good and want to beating her it's not because it's because it wasn't like she was very good but she had all these advantages of having male hormones flow through your body for 30 plus years yeah that's the biggest bandage 30 years of it yeah you know what i mean i mean just to be kind of real about it if i for whatever like right when i moved from la to texas i was in between doctors so i was literally off hormones for maybe three to four weeks and like i i've been on them so consistently for so many years now but i didn't realize how quickly it gets reversed if you're not on like i didn't see necessarily physical changes but just psychologically like just so many things people really understand when did you get off um it was like i moved here september 1st so from like september 1st to like october i wasn't on and what what happened what was the shift my skin got really oily my hair got really oily um i literally felt my arm hair get slightly thicker i have almost no arm hair but with what is there i felt they get a little bit thicker um like yikes yeah i was like i gotta get a [ __ ] doctor oh my god uh about to get some black market [ __ ] don't do that no uh but yeah and that's only a month after being on them consistently for eight years so if you are if you've lived your life until 30 35 maybe even longer you have received the full impact of masculinization via testosterone yeah and that's not that's not inconsequential and people act like it is it's a huge thing well there's a guy that was on my podcast recently his name is derek he runs uh the website he's youtube page more plates more dates have you ever is he's like an amateur chemist he's a brilliant guy but he's done he knows a lot about steroids he's done a lot of steroids himself and he knows a lot about hormones and hormone optimization and he even runs a hormone clinic and he did a series of videos about the problem
with uh people transitioning and like what are the benefits that these athletes are facing that activists are not being straight about and you know he went over specifically this mma fighter that used to be um what was was he was he a ranger or a seal when he was a male i think he was a navy seal or a marine yeah whatever jacked huge [ __ ] he was hot yeah pretty hot he was like actually for y'all i was like um and then then became a woman and started you know fighting an mma but again i have zero problem with that no problem so um he did a whole video on him now there's a swimmer who just beat her slowest or the the next closest competitor by 38 seconds but see that's that is wild but the thing about that is like i think it's very easy to get a little reactionary to things like this and be like oh this is like a really bad thing and i agree that it's a bad thing especially it's not consensual like you said but like what better way to show one of the major pitfalls of like this ideology like than just seeing it in sports yes because it's measurable just to see the like physical difference sometimes between them you don't have to be like into sports or a [ __ ] scientist to see like oh that's a huge human that's a small human and that person is probably going to have an advantage in some way over this person some of them are just like [ __ ] big and you see them lined up playing track or something running track and like it's okay those legs are long the craziest one that i've ever heard of what a 50 year old guy transitioned to being female caitlyn jenner no no uh that's what she's older than that she's in her 60s yeah she is 50 year old guy and then went back to college and played college ball wait so women's college ball as a 50-plus year old man that's like six foot five is [ __ ] giant person what's crazy is here's where it becomes a problem if you're a woman that's the that's him right there oh yeah i've seen that one see this is what i mean when you just see it and it's
plain as day like that it's really hard to argue for it people still manage to these are teenage girls yeah i mean this is what's really [ __ ] is that these girls for a lot of these 19 20 year old girls like they're they might work be working on a scholarship right there through their academic or their sports merits and like they might want to play in the nba as a professional and here they're competing against a biological male that's gigantic that's a huge person like why you got to go back to and if there's this many trans athletes wanting to wanting to compete like where are the trans leagues at this point it's like those should be traffic would be great i would like to have trans leagues but then there that'll be a problem because the male to female would dominate well yeah i i would say separated just male 2 females and maybe female 2 males separate yeah just like a reverse of what we already have two right like i would love to see trial and fox box what's her name alana mclaughlin the other trans woman fighter the one the pink character it's like y'all just go at it you get out i want to if they're the same you can't tell me like you wouldn't want to like just hit a button watch two [ __ ] beat the [ __ ] out of each other that's hilarious it would be jerry it would be more fair for sure if you had male to female lead but it's like is is there enough are there enough like male to female combat sports athletes that you could actually have a league and have people that would have opponents because you have to have if you're gonna have a weight class say if you have 135 pound weight class you have to have x amount of women in that weight class to compete probably will be soon now that like a huge chunk of like kids are wanting like it's gonna be more trans people in the future a lot more so this brings me back to the the idea of the alien and the idea of uh crispr like if if people could just transition like legitimately transition like into like yeah where you're you're switching i think people are gonna be the hulk i think you're gonna have people that come out like thor they're
just gonna you're just gonna be able to manipulate jeans i mean essentially that chris helmsworth guy what you have there is weight lifting plus steroids plus jeans all those things are amazing and they have to all line up to make thor you know when you see that guy with a shirt off you're like jesus that's that's a lineup right you gotta have a lot of [ __ ] and things have to fall into yeah if you are a biological female and you transition to be a biological male you want to look like that guy good luck good [ __ ] luck even though testosterone is a hell of a drug and i've seen some that i'm like well okay but duck angel's been on the podcast i love block angel very nice guy very good person sweet person real friend and and just a genuine person when you uh you see him and talk to him you're like the same thing i see when i talk to you like oh yeah clearly it just makes sense yeah it just makes sense like trans makes sense like it makes sense for a lot of people but it's like but i also think that it takes a very specific person to transition and end up happy with it and like live that life takes a very specific person what is that person i think it's someone who has experienced intense debilitating levels of gender dysphoria it's been consistent you're insistent on it it doesn't go anywhere and you seek the solution to fix it which for some people is transition but it's not everyone i mean clearly you have like there's this really alarming growing movement of de-transitioners among young people online if you look up the word detransition on youtube it's a bunch of now becoming like influencers getting like millions of views talking about how they were 16 thought they were trans by the time they're 19 they're done with it but their breasts are gone but their voice is permanently altered but they have you know that is their voice permanently altered like what happens if you get on estrogen does that estrogen does not change your voice really no not not even a small amount um you have to kind of like voice train
i guess if you i've never done that you're so lucky that you have a feminine voice my voice never dropped this is my voice since 13. that's so lucky right for someone who transitions because you don't ever have to fake it because like you know who elizabeth holmes is i'm obsessed with this lady and i'm sorry i keep bringing it up do you know what theranos is no theranose is this uh gigantic scam it was uh oh sorry theron yeah yeah the blood testing scam she has a fake voice and she talks and she tried to make herself have a deeper voice so she was taken more seriously um but when her friends from college saw her they're like what they're like what the [ __ ] are you doing [ __ ] why is she talking like that right and then they realize that's not her voice like oh my god she's pretending she's got a deep voice unless maybe something happened she got hit in the neck with a lacrosse ball or something yeah but testosterone does change your voice though it does yeah that's why a lot of you see trans guys in their own testosterone and like a month later they sound like like me like you and i'm like okay [ __ ] but they also have it a lot harder with surgeries because it's harder to make a hole than build a pole high yeah i mean if you're making a how do you build a pole exactly you can probably if i told you to go dig a hole you could figure it out but make a poll from nothing i don't know i think you said it the wrong way i think you said it's harder to make a hole than to build a pole oh my bad easier to make a hole right is that what she said we don't have to rewind it that's conversation but it's clear no yeah it's easier to it's easier to snip snip my hole yeah i've seen unfortunately because i i i'm one of those dudes that are like let's google it you've seen the surgery i've seen the surgery on both sides i've seen that where they grow a penis on an arm they grew a penis on this guy's inflatable yeah well it's yeah and then it's probably numb you know like my knee i had an operation on my knee in like uh 94 or some [ __ ] and it's still numb like the outside of
my knee still numb i had an acl reconstruction sort of this big scar up my knee and if you touch that area it's numb okay so it's like that's probably what it's like yeah i would imagine if you have i mean maybe you get some of your feeling back but if you're growing a new dick on your arm and then they put it on there how much of it do you feel and does it feel like an arm you know like if someone's like stroking my arm and i have to pretend like right like can you really oh baby keep keep talking at that point i'd say just get a strap on and call it a [ __ ] day i don't know but yeah surgeries are easier for trans women because it's like even in the sense of like top surgery it's like adding brass is like a little bit less traumatic than removing them right yeah because you could always go back you could like a lot of girls get them removed but that's what's so scary about these kids it's like i don't know if you've ever kind of gone down the teen do transition or rabbit hole you have okay it's like it's like young kids and i've interviewed a couple on my channel one of them's name was l palmer i believe that's her last name and um her voice is permanently very very deep yeah i believe she's like had to have like laser hair removal because she started growing facial hair she can't get rid of um removed her breasts that's uh abigail's fryer's um subject that she's been um she's been attacked like relentlessly yeah and that is like the like when i get called uh out for having transphobic content they point to that only to abigail schreier's work i don't know how the [ __ ] they're gonna say it's anti-trans we're having you on you are because i i because to me there's a very big difference between individual trans people and trans ideology and when you're trans it's like you can either follow the trans ideology which is ever moving ever growing new rules every other week or you like don't what's the newsletter
say for this week i don't [ __ ] know that's the thing i hear words all the time i just did a video with michael miles on my channel where reacted to like crazy tick tocks and it was all this trans [ __ ] in terms and i'm like how do i not know this and i'm a [ __ ] [ __ ] how am i not relating to this in any sense of the in the like what so it's hard to keep up with but that's also why i have a lot of empathy for people who don't understand trans people don't get it because everyone has a gay friend most people don't have a trans friend the tick tocks the libs of tick tock channel have you ever the twitter where i got all my tick tocks reacted it's incredible libs of tick tock on twitter is the best follow it's well tim dillon's the best paul liv's at tiktopic's number two yeah but libs of tick tock is so [ __ ] crazy like i it's almost like china is [ __ ] with us because the algorithm but it's not just the algorithm it's like they created tick-tock and tick-tock is if you know when you've talked to software engineers that have back-engineered the tick-tock platform and gone over like all this different stuff that it does to violate privacy they said we've never seen a nap like this before it's like the most violating app ever oh yeah it's intense i've literally um this one time i met this girl at a gym and we became friends and we were just talking but i didn't we didn't like give each other like our numbers or like contact info or anything right like we there was no digital attachment we didn't follow each other nothing and then an hour later i'm on my phone on tick tock i'm banned now but when i had tick tock and i'm scrolling through and she pops up on my tick tock a woman i just met in person and it's not like she was like an influencer had a following to where maybe statistically i would run into this person it's like she had like 12 followers and i was like that's scary yeah it's i bet it's probably just your phone being next to her phone like the phones are talking to each other yeah like what it's like i don't like that i mean granted i followed her i was like oh cool she has a tick tock how did you get banned from tick tock i posted that i didn't think it was
transphobic for people to not date trans people if they don't have that preference that's it whoa they banned you for that that was the that was the yeah infraction it was tick-tock doesn't give a [ __ ] yeah because there was this um like funny meme that was going around called like super straight and there was like high school kids being like i'm super straight like i don't date trans women like and but they but it's funny because the way they did it was like straight yeah i'm not just straight i'm super straight but the way they did it was like okay we'll say trans women or women but i'm super straight so i go further than that i don't actually date them oh my god super straight yeah hilarious but everyone was super upset about it and to me i find it insulting on so many levels like insist people have to date someone of a certain type or be involved sexually so i'm like why are y'all attacking people for saying this it's a meme what did you say though that that they banned you for did you say i said i wouldn't want to date anyone who didn't want to date trans women anyways i'm not offended by it and people have a right to their preferences everyone has a right to their preferences and i got banned for that wow i wonder what they're doing do you think that they're just they're social engineering yeah they're social engineering right but it's china is involved yes so it's almost like they're trying to push us towards the most ridiculous preposterous cartoonish character-ish caricaturish version of what like a social justice warrior would be yeah and it just keeps going it doesn't go further and further left yeah do you remember like i don't know i remember being maybe like in 2015 watching like your podcast with like just people from that time talking about the sjws are starting to rise up and like those guests and it's like that was like nothing i know well people that thought i was overreacting they were like i i was talking to people like jordan peterson and a lot of other people was like this is not going to
stop here you have to understand these people are going to go from universities into corporations and then the corporate interests are going to be represented by these people and it's going to spread this ideology mainstream america people like that's [ __ ] this is a very fringe thing that's only happening in small groups in universities but now now it's undisputable right you can't work for any major corporation without going through ex basically social justice training yeah it's just part of being hired places and if you want to work for a tech company good luck being conservative you can't you literally can't yeah it's crazy but that's what's so scary as well when you think of big tech it's like so much of what we say is so controlled and there's so much that i would love to just be able to open my phone rant about on social media and not be like how stupid that got banned for saying that like i don't think it's transphobic to not hate trans women but you could say that on instagram yeah that's the thing there's different rules for different things like on twitter i posted um something along to the effects of car written house did nothing wrong that was like a tweet i posted but then people who shared that tweet on instagram got banned i knew i shouldn't share that on instagram that's like twitter only type of thing but then i had friends who reposted my tweet on their walls and they got banned i'm like that's scary yeah twitter is a little more free but less free now i think with jeff horsey gone yeah i think with jack jack dorsey i think was the last wall the last firewall for free speech over there they just banned the um galen heist hit i know just wayne maxwell the track is that i think it's gallane yeah do you know how to say it jim colleen you think so i've never heard her say it but i think that's how you say i like to say jizz lane because it's funny it's better let's go with that jizzlane max um her uh the track the tracker i eat it yeah but it got yeted for what did you see what it got yeted for the last post it was they showed that a bunch of evidence
that was introduced already had fbi tags on it which means the fbi had access to all of these cds all of these hard drives all these things had reviewed them and then had allowed them to be brought back in for evidence supposedly see if you can find it because it's posted up a lot of people have reposted it under the right lightning strike and affect it because there's people are just going to add nauseam just well you're smarter than the feds congratulations in a way but also that account had a huge following very quickly i think i had like 400k followers very quickly 530 000 yeah yeah and they just banned it and that's what's like okay so there's all this media attention for the written house thing you can't turn on the tv without seeing it which it was a big deal and it you know i think a lot of american issues were kind of going head-to-head over that trial but like the jalane maxwell thing i feel like is so much more to the public interest or it should be because it's like you have hollywood and the elites and people collected connected to politics preying on young girls and the fact that that's not of a higher priority in people's attention span is really sad i think there's a lot of like black celebrities and black people that i follow that still have uh like a take on kyle rittenhouse because he went to a black lives matter protest yeah like even though like i have black friends that thought he shot black guys until like the trial started that was a lot of my progressive friends they thought they thought it was because nobody knew they knew he shot three people but they didn't know and then they realized like oh oh he fought a bunch of he he shot rather a couple of [ __ ] crazy people a white pedophile yeah a white multiple like multiple offender like a guy who raped many kids yeah yeah like that's when when i think about that kind of [ __ ] i think like there are really just two separate realities that people live in in this country it's like and to me it's split up between people who either have faith in the corporate press and people who don't well i think when in this case it's a little different
because i think there was a narrative that got put out and a lot of people didn't read into the story they just bought the narrative the narrative was this kid's a white supremacist who crossed state lines with an illegal gun and he goes to a black lives matter protest looking for trouble and shoots three people that was the narrative but the reality was he didn't cross state lines with a gun he lived 20 minutes away he drove over there someone gave him a gun he was working he was kind of playing cop for sure and he was kind but he did administer aid to people and he did like work to clean up graffiti and i think these this i think the story is i'm not 100 sure on this but i think the story is that some guys who ran a car dealership asked him to come and help him protect it and these guys saw him with the ar and they chased him down they hit him with a skateboard knocked him to the ground one guy pulled a gun at him and he shot three tried to take his gun and i believe that the individuals that owned the car dealership were indian men so it's like he's there to protect these people of color literally we showed a meme uh with in the mat thai eb episode we showed a meme of how crazy it is that he's the worst white supremacist ever yeah he shot three white guys while protecting two brown guys yeah and then you have people to the even post trial like post like letting them go you have people who still think he went and shot two innocent black lives matter protesters because the way in which the media frames it is kill two people at a black lives matter protest it's like you're purposely leaving out a lot of context here and but that's also their mo it's stroking more division more hate more this group versus that group it's just it's also like the best way to get people to click on things and that's always a thing with the media it's like and part of it i feel it's almost like they're just trying to survive because to try to get people to read your news stories good luck today good luck
stuff though is weird though like some stuff i would agree that it's like oh it's just shining it clicks like it's just about how many people are reading an article or tuning into something and then other things i think like they're lying maliciously like this is like some sort of actual agenda like when i saw the lies about you and i were mektin that was when i was like well there's been many examples of made me believe this but actually there are just some heavily malicious liars in media as well because i can't think of a positive reason why people would demonize a medication that actually helped you you know that was one of the things that helped me the crazy thing is that it was on a laundry list of stuff that i took and that was the one that they pointed out but you know i've had legitimate doctors that have treated including dr pierre corey who's treated thousands of people with ivermectin and people i mean they're they're handing it out as part of the protocol in japan and india in parts of south america and mexico ivermectin is standard care and in but the problem is it's a generic medication it's very cheap like you can get a dose of vivomectin for like 30 cents right and then you think like how do these people [ __ ] get away with it it's very frustrating it's like so so why do cnn anchors and msnbc anchors just get to say it's horse tranquilizer well they or yeah horse dewormer used to be able to but i think this time it changed i think with me the problem was i have more people that watch me than watch them of course so when that but and i i keep talking about it i don't shut the [ __ ] up about it so it's like every time i'm not gonna every time i talk about it it's worse for them because then people go what did they do and then they'll watch clip and they'll go holy [ __ ] and then and then they'll watch the brought to you by pfizer like you ever seen the compilation cooper brought to you by pfizer you see
like hundreds of shows brought to you by it's like we're in a black mirror episode every commercial is about some sort of vaccine i was saying the other night i was just like high in bed watching like tv and commercials are coming i never really watch tv and i was shocked by the commercials every commercial has something to do with your health something to do i'm like i literally told joey i'm like i'm sick of hearing about health [ __ ] like i don't want to hear about health [ __ ] i want to hear about medication like this country is so obsessed with medicine i was watching the ufc the other day these dudes were beating the [ __ ] out of each other and every commercial was about a pharmaceutical drug like do you have any drugs for headaches because these guys have [ __ ] headaches they just they just cranked on each other's necks and kicked each other in the face and they're they're selling medication for how to sleep easier it's insane and it's also insane knowing that if history went another way and trump had gotten a second term i think the vaccine skeptics and hesitant people would be on the other side because right before trump lost it was like kamala harris talking about how she wouldn't take the vaccine it was every cnn anchor talk show host all these libs fighting yeah and now it's talked about it yeah now let's trust the science who's going to take it if you're if it does come out who's going to take it it would have been the trump vaccine yeah now it's just get to get fractionated take the facts man yeah but that's also what is this speaking of him a couple other tick tock thing do you remember that trump had a an order to ban it yep and then the biden administration revoked it in order to change i guess the framework of what was going to be changed or like the banning what they were actually banning about data sales and tracking and all sorts of stuff but it hasn't happened but here if you look at the top of the article look back look what it says there but the apps still aren't out of hot water what does that mean what yeah oh the apps are in hot water those apps have a hundred billion people on it like
what the [ __ ] right but uh so with the this the tracker trial thing or the time uh there is something apparently here with this some like twitter sleuths if you will ah did some digging into the account and some old archive tweets uh it was that account was used for other tweeting purposes maybe but like they were saying that that account wasn't like a person at the trial they were just reposting stuff from other like mainstream media sources that they were almost claiming weren't following the trial too which is a little strange see but see why why do you understand them it could be a reason just to pull them off but the reason to ban them is because of this they had other twitter accounts also pointing to a sub stack newsletter and that is including an account established to report only negative news about alexandria ocasio-cortez why is that bandworthy because if you're using bots and stuff to take people off of twitter's website they don't want that oh okay and that's that's the reason to do it was that a box it says they had other accounts i don't know that it's a bot no i don't know that that's accurate this could be a reason to do it but if they're connected to someone that's just only criticizing aoc like that might be a reason alone twitter leans so far left i mean twitter banned megan murphy for saying that men are never women right yeah and then it sucks because like all the alternatives to like mainstream social media are so cringe i don't want to join [ __ ] parlor i don't want to join like join gab and talk to nazis what are you gonna do yeah it's like i wish it could just be truly politically neutral like we did not appreciate myspace for what it was that [ __ ] was politically neutral tom had her back yes that [ __ ] was fun it was great you could post bulletins and now it's like you say one wrong thing and it's like you're banned forever and it's only on one side too which is really frustrating yeah there's no i mean what is what's the best alternative platform is it gab
like i say gab you talk to nazis but i don't really know i don't i haven't really been there that's just the narrative well it is it is explicitly very right-wing let's go to gab right now go to gab and let's see like what's on the front page because i wanted to be like just milo you know do you have to [ __ ] is he on there i don't know that [ __ ] dude you want to talk about like the power of deep platform i've never been to him he's been like interesting let's see candace owen right away you vaccine cultists swore up and down your vaccine would keep you safe from the environment it's a repost from a account called morpheus okay so but this is a repost from her twitter account right um okay what else are omicron beats worldwide uh death worldwide skyrocketed from zero to zero um so there's a lot of this is like reposting people on twitter a lot of it is covet stuff yeah which is hilarious see yeah exactly and it's it's very clearly like a right wing so i my question though quick just as a person i've never been to gab this is a feed that they're curating or it says hot post but like yeah it says hot post so who's most of those like it's curated by somebody okay morpheus mega here's the question not this particular one but how many of these people are russians how many of them how many of them are right russians pretending to be americans trying to stir up [ __ ] did you see they found out that 19 of the top 20 facebook pages that were christian pages were run by russians i saw that and i've also seen a lot of reports that like they will go into groups on facebook purely to serve them disinformation they'll find little pockets and communities and specifically join them be one of them and then try to like radicalize them and yeah just start talking [ __ ] yeah and try to take them further and further right the way tick tock tries to take people further and further left we kind of a fun job honestly listen they're hilarious
unmask forced to mask fly in sponsored a mask you can breathe in what is that like a [ __ ] yeah it's like a fake mask a hot girl a hot republican ruthless girl right see so clearly clearly gab has a bias and even their twitter account where like it's like the owners of gob like it's all right-wing tweets just from them personally but like i don't want to join a platform where everyone thinks the same and say what you all about twitter they ban a lot of people who think differently but yeah look at this one q and on 76. why they have so many stars that's on their account name but that i believe they have five stars they're all verified all these accounts are ah verified i want you verified i think they have a let's go brandon boat look at that boat and tell me it doesn't smell like farts you know that boat smells like farts you know those people for sure you keep going keep scrolling all right come on man if you made a gab you would trend on twitter and people will be dragging you probably if you had to i'm sure they would come for me but it's like what what else can they come for me for they've it's already been seen vice news came at us for the rv stream the temple thing they called me far right in that article it was just so [ __ ] ridiculous vice is so weird you know there's a great um meme for advice i'll i'll send it to jamie what vice used to be was these people that would go to these [ __ ] crazy war-torn countries and give you like a real they had great human interest pieces yeah well they told yeah they had great human interest pieces this one piece that i talk about all the time was jaimo's arctic adventure about this guy who lives in like way north alaska who lives off the land he's a fascinating guy top trending story on murder by 5g frequency see what i mean like i'm not come on man is that is that real i mean is that really a russian or is that like a real person all right jamie i'm sending you this
this meme this meme is the perfect example of a vice look at this watch this meme i love memes i i think that memes are like one of the most interesting things to come out of the internet because it's a totally new form of humor it didn't it did not exist before and they're powerful yeah look at that i will go to the most war-torn places on earth to expose dirty politics then and now 10 reasons why spongebob is homophobic right i mean spot on really spot on it's really a bunch of [ __ ] freaks that work there it is but it's also there's an there's a market right like if you're working for tmz you're trying to catch a celebrity drunk cheating on their wife walking out of a club holding hands with the wrong person that's what the tmz wants right they want to get dirt on celebrities they want to catch you at the airport talking [ __ ] right hey blair what do you think about this like i think [ __ ] him and then like oh blair says [ __ ] him and then front head headlines that but that's their business like you can't get mad that's their business i have a lot of friends that are comics that were like struggling comics that used to work for tmz and i would see him at the airport all the time and i'd be like bro not today i've had zero sleep right i'll say something stupid and we laugh but that's what they do that's their thing this is what vice's thing is now their thing is like politically left hard left leaning and then exaggerate the perspectives of anybody that's in the news that might have anything questionable because that's how you get people to click on things like calling you far right or calling me right at all at all yeah and if and if i'm far right then what where the [ __ ] is the line what they say about me now is i have increasing ties to the far right so because they can't stay on the right wing because i'm not so they say increasing ties to the far right that's what they did what does that even mean i don't know i mean i mean granted we had alex jones in the rv right but the thing about alex jones is like i see him as sort of like the internet's collective crazy uncle it's like he's
the guy he's the uncle who like he's gonna be rambling he's going to be saying crazy [ __ ] and you're going to be tuning him out half the time then every once in a while he just drops a nugget and you're like oh yeah that's totally right but chill i wish that whole sandy hook thing had never happened i know because if that if he had never had that crazy perspective people have a different take on him because now that's all they bring up um and what he said was very unfortunate he hates that he did it but alex was going through an episode he was having i've known alex for 23 years he's a great guy i was out with him the other night he's a lot of fun he came to the comedy show at vulcan we got married i know you got married he is a sweet guy like people get the wrong impression of him but it's because of that whole thing but he had gone through an episode where he was drinking like multiple bottles of alcohol a day and he he was having these psychotic breaks he legitimately was he'll talk during this and i think a lot of it like he was going i mean this is not an excuse but this is just the the reality he pays so much attention to these conspiracies and for the longest time people were saying that he's just crazy but one of the things that's come up over this pandemic and you know and leading up to the the current state that we're at now is that people realizing a lot of the things he called are just true are happening he could he said they were going to institute some sort of a vaccine passport you wouldn't be allowed to travel people like that's crazy they were going to move us towards some sort of social credit system they're absolutely trying that's exactly what's happening yeah he was talking about human monkey chimeras there's another meme because i [ __ ] love memes people talk about the water turning the frogs gay and like it was well it was actually making them her change genders yeah yes and there's uh there's an alex jones was right tip jar meme that i love yeah that's filled up but then there's also like all the different things that
he's like it's like you are here now because it'll show like all the things that he said that he predicted that people were like this is [ __ ] that have turned here it is i'll send this to you jamie and it really just begs the question like are people you either believe people are the sum total of their mistakes or they're not so like i think that this any hook thing with alex jones was egregious i don't agree with that i think that it was a huge mistake on it he thinks he thinks that but i don't think that the rest of his life is has to be tied up exactly like look at this this is the you are here here's tv spying on you check elite cabal of sex traffickers that galen maxwell just lane whatever it's going on right now the trial they're turning the frog's deck check bohemian grove czech silver iodide check rich people using baby blood shack and right there you are here human monkey chimeras right and then next is interdimensional elves and you and i have both experienced those yeah i experienced that the other day uh yeah but yeah the thing about alex jones is like i think that people do have a really wrong image of him i think he's a really nice guy in fact when i first started on youtube and on the internet like one of the first people that ever reached out was him like he had this like really long message like novel like message about how much i was inspiring him as a person how much he loved me and my what i was doing i was like no wild really yeah i'm telling you people just it's okay it's just water yeah people just have the wrong it's okay oh there's chords oh [ __ ] probably all right there's just power it's just it's sound not power people have they they have an impression based on one absolute mistake the worst of what he's done yeah and it is a mistake you know and but i believe and i think this is something that we should all uh subscribe to i believe in forgiveness then we have to have that as a he didn't [ __ ] kill someone yeah and as human beings there has to be
there has to be room for error and there has to be a point where because otherwise we're just going to try to destroy everyone because everyone has something that you could point to especially if you exaggerated it or distorted it or someone gave an account of an event that was inaccurate and then people like like they did with kyle rittenhouse like they'd point to this one inaccurate version of the event and demonize him for that and then you never forgive him ever and this is who he is for the rest of his life that's crazy it's and he's like 18. and so the rest of his life he will be seen as a white supremacist unless there's a huge cultural shift and we stop giving a [ __ ] about buzzwords like that he'll be seen as that forever because joe biden called him that well joe biden's gonna get sued i hope so oh he's gonna get sued i think that kid is lawyered up and i think they're going to slowly figure out what to do yeah and there's a lot of people that are [ __ ] including the ladies on the view they're [ __ ] you know they said heinous [ __ ] about that is a heinous marketplace that's what they're dealing that that view is all they're doing is like selling hate i would love anger though would you i would love i would have so much fun they would just talk over you though that's what they did to this lady the other day this lady who i don't know what was wrong with her that she couldn't take the vaccine but they were like barking at him yeah they were just they wouldn't even let her talk yeah she was trying to explain that her doctor told her not to take the vaccine because she has some sort of uh predisposed condition i don't know what it was and she didn't want to divulge it it could be just like um aaron rodgers aaron rodgers has an allergy to what is it again is propylene glycol some [ __ ] he's one of the main ingredients in the lipid nanoparticles or the whatever it is in the vaccine is uh it's an ingredient that he's literally allergic to so he would go into into shock like he would go into and what's it called apple what's it called aphylactic what is that
anaphylactic shock when you have that allergy reaction that's the thing it's like one size fits all doesn't work in life anywhere so why would it work with the vaccine i just don't understand that like for me we're talking about this earlier for me once i started hearing about heart issues yeah i was like well let me just pause that doesn't mean i won't maybe in the future make a different decision but as of me now i'm like i'm just going to chill on that yeah well you're 28 you're in very good health you exercise all the time you're at a low risk category anyway right and i'm on estrogen which increases my risk of blood clot why do i want to double up with a vaccine estrogen increases your risk of blood clots really yeah that's why whenever i have friends that are male to female trans and i see i'm smoking a cigarette i'm like [ __ ] stop you're gonna die oh really yeah it's because that's that's one thing with girls on birth control yeah it's very similar to the medications um yeah oh that's right because like birth control is estrogen right yeah it makes you hella emotional gain weight easy and blood clots and blood clots but you could shoot loads inside of people and nothing happens wait what do you mean for girls oh okay on birth control yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i'll do it okay that's a it's crazy that there's only one option other than condoms and iuds and iuds is kind of i don't know if they work 100 of the time do they i don't know but also birth control there are a lot of negative aspects for young girls that are on it yeah and so the idea that like your daughter turns 13 and you're putting on birth control it's like well maybe yeah maybe it's chill on that well you know it's like people don't want unwanted pregnancies which totally makes sense and the thing about human nature is when people get horny and they're together and they're alone and especially when they're young they're going to do stupid [ __ ] yeah you know it's just part of being a human being i also couldn't imagine raising like teenage girls or dealing with that at all so i have no perspective on like
how to keep them from getting fragmented i mean i've done it i'm in the middle of it right now it's not the worst don't you have only daughters yeah yeah they're all girls i think it's so funny sometimes i make jokes about stuff though and they go yes i'm fine i think it's funny that you ended up just being a girl dad because it's like you're like you in terms of like your public image is like very masculine very it's like then you just have a bunch of girls it's really funny i think the universe is teaching me something probably balances you out a lot yeah it definitely does it balances me out it gives it gives me a much better perspective on how women think not just to you know be married and be married to a woman but to see little women grow up and become you know adults you just if you're a man especially like if you do men oriented [ __ ] like i did my whole life like my whole life was i did you know fighting which is very male oriented then stand up comedy which is pretty male oriented i mean i've made friends with a lot of female comedians and i know them but a lot of them are pretty they're pretty hardcore like they're the [ __ ] that they say sometimes is more [ __ ] up than the things that a lot of the guys say i have some [ __ ] group texts that i get into with my female comedian friends they say [ __ ] i'm like jesus christ yeah they're funny i was saying that on the way up here i was like i was like i know a buck angel's been on here so i'm not the only trans person ever but i'm probably the least masculine person ever be on this podcast because even a lot of the women that come on it's like danica patrick it's like you know just cool [ __ ] it's like a nascar driver yeah yeah yeah [ __ ] badass to go 250 miles an hour or whatever they do got to be a crazy person right she's a crazy person but in a good way you know she's intense yeah but uh i don't know if you're the most feminine i've had some pretty feminine people but
you're up there i just always i was just looking through the list of all your recent episodes it's just all just like fighters and [ __ ] michael malus who i love i love michael malloy i do too he's become a very very dear friend very quickly he's a great guy he's a funny dude too very smart and when he trolls people on instagram like oh my god like after the alex baldwin accident i was like oh my god i can't even read that i know every time i open my phone was a new tweet about like alex baldwin killing people we moved here on the same day so we kind of like figured out austin together and like i think on paper people be like how are they friends but like we've gone really close really quick i don't know how but i think that on paper [ __ ] is nonsense yeah that's true if it's on paper it's not real you have to like you have to be open to different people and it's a it's educational it's good for you it's good for you to have different friends with different perspectives like i've got some hardcore lefty friends and then i've got some hardcore right wing friends yeah and um i love them all i don't agree with them all i don't agree with them on a lot of things on both sides i don't agree with them on a lot of things but i think the people that have that mind that like mindset that you have to only be around like-minded individuals what kind of life is that it's terrible for you yeah it's it's very i often say i don't like how the tribe i think online a lot of people like first of all people call me a conservative commentator i'm like am i really like no how did you get who's the first person to label you a conservative commentator i actually think it might have been alex jones i think because that was the first show i ever did was his show years ago and i think like the title of it was like trans conservative commentator and i was like i'm like i know i'm like i get how that benefits you but now i'm like then my wikipedia page how that i'm like [ __ ] but like if anything i'm more so centered right but like you said it's like if you don't have friends from all over the spectrum in every area of life what kind of life are you really living when i first met
alex he was getting arrested for protesting george w bush when george w bush was running for president he was talking about um all the ties that george w bush had to like elitist and globalists and that they wanted to start wars and do all these things like he was the guy that was attacking just people that were in positions of power that were corrupt or they were doing illegal things like on the campaign trail i think it was that was like one of the first times i ever saw him get arrested he's more so in my mind if you just like erase all the labels you put on people like an alex jones or even you or me it's like if you just take away all those labels and what society is describing them as to me he just seems more like an anti-status than anything to me he's just more so that i mean i know he's definitely more right but he just seems to rail against the state more than anything yeah and he's [ __ ] hilarious the dude is hilarious like he's one of the funniest guy like when he goes on andrew schultz's show like jesus christ he's funny he's funny as [ __ ] after the last stream we did with a minute i just kept having these recurring like ptsd like visions of hearing child rape i've got the documents like just over and over again it's so funny well he used to always tell me about this epstein [ __ ] he told me about it more than a decade ago and i was like wait a minute what and he was like there's a [ __ ] island they take them to this island they compromise them they have hidden cameras they get them all liquored up and then they they bring them around these are beautiful women they don't know they probably don't even know that these girls are underage and next thing you know they got video of them [ __ ] these underage girls and that's how they get policies passed and this and that and they have all this dirt on people and then they bring in other people to the fold and they have they'll they'll reach out they'll try to bring other people in like really flash forward yeah i was at the time he was saying that i was like this is crazy this is one of them crazy things that he says but then i remember bohemian grove because he was always talking about
bohemian grove like there's a place they go they worship molech the owl god they have these guys they dress roses i can't yeah but he was saying that i was like what there's a [ __ ] they they worship an owl god but that's why it sucks so much that he went so hard in the paint with sandy hook and with the what's the name of that pizza pizza place did he go with pizzagate yeah he went in with pizzagate yeah he did i'm telling you though this like his perspective is so skewed because a lot of times first of all the guy feels like very alone right he feels like people shun him and you know he's alone with all this information and he's constantly drinking at the time at least and he feels like he has these moments where he can't tell what's real and what's fake because there's so much that is real when you find out all this [ __ ] about like [ __ ] island with with maxwell and epstein is real when you find out that the government really did do a thing called operation northwoods where they're planning on blowing up a drone jetliner and blaming you on the cubans and arming cuban friendlies and having them attack guantanamo bay and kill american soldiers and they were going to blame this on cuba so we could go to war with cuba he was telling me about that years ago too i was like what the [ __ ] are you talking about but then you read about it in the freedom of information act then you're like oh my god this is all true this is all true he's all he does is do that all day his whole day and that's the problem when you lean really heavily into the conspiracy side of things you start to lose sight of what could be real what could be fake and that's what's so sad is like he is disregarded because of those things he got wrong but you can't you can't be a public person and talk for a living especially about these types of issues for as long as he has and not had some [ __ ] things you were wrong about i've had things i've been writing though yeah his work is about it's like little kids getting shot is the worst thing you could be wrong about you know it's the worst that's the problem it's just i mean it's being wrong about
a thing it's not doing a thing that's wrong it's being wrong about a thing but it's still yeah but i still say he didn't [ __ ] kill anyone he didn't [ __ ] rape anyone he has a right to move on from these things eventually you know what i mean yeah i agree with that that's what i think but i think what he needs honestly like i tell him this all the time like he says so much wacky [ __ ] but a lot of it's true what he needs is like a hardcore journalist as like if i was running a network and i had a show i would have alex jones with like some hardcore like objective journalist and they would go over things and alex would talk about stuff and this guy would pull up the data and the information go hold on a second alex let's look at this he would try yeah like someone who balances him out because he'll go off the rails he gets deeper and deeper they're trying deep population they're trying to ruin our lives child rape they're trying to bring us into camps yeah and you go but they're not going to bring anybody into camps alex it's 20 21 and then you watch australia and then there's like camps in australia where people are going because of covet it's like you lose your [ __ ] mind sometimes when you realize that he is right about somebody but then the australians like defending it you don't understand our country it's just a camp and they're supposed to use propaganda pictures yeah they posted propaganda pictures of like these like hot models like chilling sun tanning all this [ __ ] and it's like they're doing tick tocks in the camp yeah yeah it's like just some hot [ __ ] and a bikini doing a tech talk it's like oh okay so but that's what is the difference between here in australia is i think we have guns that is a big difference and i think that that severely mitigates the amount of tyranny we can face although if you would have asked me two years ago if we'd be where we are here i would have said no no [ __ ] way this is
america so many factors just all came together in one moment in history right all so much fear and then isolation and then anxiety and then this new crazy perspective that these pharmaceutical drug companies are looking out for you which is like they've never been looking out for you but that's what's crazy is that so this this blind faith in big pharma from what i can see seems to be coming from the left in recent years but traditionally they were very distrustful of big pharma it's just because that you know that trump guy got out of office if trump was still in office like you said they would all be anti-pharmaceuticals it would be anti it would be really interesting to see like what where this country would be in terms of therapeutics and what our perspective would be about vaccine industry in injuries if trump was still president because if like there was a vares report which is the vaccine adverse event reporting system if that report reporting system was active the way it is now with the same numbers it has now but trump was president it would be really interesting to see how they blamed him and what they would say about this and what they would say about the fact these pharmaceutical companies are they're immune to legal threats like they're immune to responsibility because of the emergency use authorization i saw a headline today that was like pfizer ceo says another shot will be needed and i'm like who the [ __ ] elected the pfizer ceo to tell me what i have to put in my body to be a part of society well did we vote on this no that you can definitely listen to them they have no vested interest in you taking another shot it's not like they make any more money off of it right it's fine don't sweat it and all this this omicron even though it's killed zero people ever it might kill somebody someday and we have to act now right and it's and it's the unboxing of people's fault that the omicron is here and it's a it's a virus of the unvaccinated apparently yeah even though the first cases were shown to vaccinate people it's also no it was in africa it came to
california yeah and it was a vaccinated person in california too not a vaccinated person a boosted person yeah vaccinated and boosted that's the guy i think it was in new york but the thing is it's like there's they're blaming it on south africa but the people that showed up positive all of them were from other countries and they traveled to south africa and then showed symptoms of it they could have easily brought it with them and this is what the south african people are saying they're like we don't have a problem with this virus like the people brought it here and now you're saying that they're you're going to ban travel from south africa and that's what they've done that's what the bionics administration has done like one of bridgette fedex's friends is stuck over in south africa yeah they went over there on vacation like oh [ __ ] right but travel bans are racist if it's a republican president yes and for some reason you're allowed to call it the south africa strain right how come right it's because it's different rules you can't call it the china virus right south african strain right so here's my question so i'm 28 and you're older than me 54. okay and have you ever seen anything like this before where it's papers to go to applebee's and no no it's never happened before it didn't even happen during the spanish flu right a lot of [ __ ] people died during spanish flu spanish flu is way worse than this because we talked to uh joey's grandmother who's 97 and worked for the cia her entire life so she probably knows she probably knows [ __ ] actually her whole family worked for this year ask her about ufos i okay so i did yeah and she looks at me with the most stoic like and then she just looked away like she pretended like she didn't hear me i'm like okay there's something she knows and she's not the kind of person to like mess with you like she legitimately probably processed like and then just [ __ ] yeah this [ __ ] is not this loud mouth [ __ ] what did she do talk [ __ ] on the internet for a living
i would be here so quick being like i know someone in this year right you've got a youtube channel yeah yeah ready to press play right [Laughter] but yes but she said when i asked her have you ever seen anything like this before she's 97 right she said hell no no this is as bad as it's ever gotten in terms of the the lack of the the the lack of rational thinking the the the tribalism the the belief in the government that they have your best interest the fact that they lie to you on a constant basis and people are just soaking it up what's interesting is this belief that i think everyone has that our government has been capable of evil incorrect things in the past but they never believe that they're capable of it in the moment so we can admit that all these like human rights violations have occurred slavery like what we did to the asians we did that group that group so you think that this can't be anything similar to that well how about the tuskegee experiment tell me about that i don't that is when and i believe google this i believe the tuskegee experiment was run by the cdc make sure that's correct so what they did was they had african-americans who had syphilis and they pretended to give them treatment for syphilis but they didn't they gave them nothing and then they allowed them to go and infect their family infect their wives in fact their children that were born through that what was this yeah it was done by the cdc 1932 okay between 1932 and 1972 so this is a 40 [ __ ] year experiment this was happening while i was alive i was a a small child at the time but this was happening while i was alive the tuskegee experiment or the tuskegee syphilis study was an ethically abusive study that's a [ __ ] that's a minor way of putting it right conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the united states public health service and the centers for disease control and prevention the cdc the one that we're talking about now the cdc that's the group
different people obviously on a group of nearly 400 african americans with syphilis the purpose of the study was to observe the effects of the disease when untreated though by the bo though by the end of the study it was entirely treatable so by the end of study they had penicillin they had a treatment for it the men were not informed of the nature of the experiment and more than 100 died as a result so 100 out of 400 died they could have totally been treated and they would have been fine the public health service started the study in 1932 in collaboration with the tuskegee university excuse me and then then the tuskegee institute a historically black college in alabama in the study investigators enrolled a total of 600 impoverished african-american sharecroppers from macon county alabama of these men 399 had latent syphilis with a control group of 201 men who were not infected as an incentive to for participation in the study the men were promised free medical care jesus christ wow while the men were provided with both medical and mental care that they otherwise would not have received they were deceived by the phs who never informed them of their syphilis diagnosis and provided disguised placebos ineffective methods and diagnostic procedures as treatment for in quotes bad blood the men were initially told the experiment was only going to last six months but was extended to 40 years after funding for treatment was lost the study was continued without informing the men that they had that they would never be treated none of the infected men were treated with penicillin despite the fact by 1947 the antibiotic was widely available and had become the standard treatment for syphilis that is why that's insane and it really lends to the fact that there is a huge portion of the black community that's vaccine hesitant yeah so for all the talk that there is about how this is a far-right thing to somehow be trustful of of vaccines it's really just not true and then you think of cities like new york city where there's a vaccine passport and you can't
go to restaurants and stuff it's like you're literally segregating black people i think the number is in the high it's in the 70 percent yeah range of of african americans in new york city that are unvaccinated yeah and i follow a lot of instagrams that are geared towards black people and you see like the shade room for example and you see all the comments whenever a vaccine is talked about and all the comments are like from black people being like yeah this is [ __ ] i'm never taking it ever taking it it's like mainstream thought in a lot of segments with that community whereas it's treated as if it's some far-right white hillbilly thing and it's like actually no well that was when they came after me and they came up to me for saying that i got better quick instead of instead of looking at what i did and saying what is he taking like how how'd this work the big one that i took i i'm pretty sure all of them helped but i think the big one was monoclonal antibodies if somebody asked me do you think that ivermectin was what cured you i'm like i'm sure it helped but i really think that monoclonal antibodies had the most effect because i've given it to people or had it given to people that i knew that had coveted that didn't get ivermectin and they got better quick really quick like within 24 hours same as what happened with me and i think all those things helped but the fact that they were upset about that and never focused for a second on the fact that i got better so quickly that's what people should be looking at i was better in five day like not just better but testing negative and working out in five days wow that's that's something that and again i'm not young i'm 54. so that's what people should be looking at but that's not what they looked at and just the fact that it's not allowed to be like your autonomy and your own right to make decisions about your body and your health is so removed from the conversation at this point that it's a taboo to even bring it up or talk about it you're not allowed to discuss whether or not this option is right for you the
vaccine's right for you it's not it's just you're treated we have these new categories of people two new classes of people vaccinated unvaccinated but then you think of like that's the mo of the media as creating categories playing them against each other and now you have literally half the population not half that's less than half that's not vacant so ironic that if trump was still in office and we still had the same results the narrative would be completely different it'd be the trump vaccine and that's that also goes back to living in two different realities there are a lot of people that think that biden created the vaccine i've seen that said because people started getting vaccinated in the biden administration so all these [ __ ] idiots are just like yeah bite and brought the bat it's like that guy y'all are just [ __ ] he's creating [ __ ] in his pants he's probably like two years away from them removing him i would imagine i don't i don't think i don't see him making a full term i i if he does it'll be a miracle of science they'll be juicing them up with all kinds of [ __ ] right i don't want anything to happen but i cannot first see i don't want anything four years from now him still i mean you just see the decline like if you watch interviews from even the beginning of like the election cycle when he was first announcing the candidacy it's like he just seems more there he's a lot less there now well the stress stress of the job wrecks everybody obama got a ton of gray hair during his term the only one that didn't affect is trump went with like [ __ ] water on a duck went right he just yeah he shook it off i don't know how that was i mean i know he gained a lot of weight he's always fun but yeah he got fatter did he get fatter i think he got a little fatter probably celebrating yeah i'm the president i'm gonna eat [ __ ] mcdonald's honestly there is something about like the trump era that i kind of miss in a sense but i don't want him to run again i voted from the first i voted for him both times but did you really
yeah that's why people think you're far right exactly but like that's it's like participating in like the election and just choosing the lesser of two evils suddenly puts you on a far end extreme i don't get it i voted for gary johnson and then i voted for joe jorgensen so i voted libertarian both times so you're also why people say trump happened because you voted for third party i voted in a call in a country that or a state rather should be a country a state where it always goes blue no matter what it's almost like you have your vote barely count yeah i voted in california for trump didn't [ __ ] matter it was almost just like a let's wake up and go there's not a chance in hell that a republican's going to win in california unless something wild happens which is kind of happening yeah i was shocked that newsome wasn't recall i mean i guess part of me wasn't but i had moved right before the recall election and so all my friends were like all uptight about it and i'm like peace i wasn't because the thing is like larry elder was the most prominent person on the other side and he's a radio guy yeah it's like he's not like some beloved character where everybody was like like when arnold schwarzenegger won when uh gray got was it gray was his name who was the i don't know i forgot who the he's pretty young the guy that schwarzenegger replaced uh but but when he got recalled he was the first guy to get recalled and schwarzenegger won as a republican that was crazy that was i'm sure i was really young but yeah so you didn't have your hat in for caitlyn i thought about having her on the podcast i think you absolutely should i think she's a very misunderstood person so i she invited me to dinner a couple years ago and i went and she just talked just her and you it was me her and her girlfriend it was like a romantic girlfriend i believe which is another thing but um she's a very nice person she just i think is has been so famous for so long that it kind of has like warped her reality in a way but then it doesn't happen to everyone though because i
don't get the feeling like you have a warp sense of reality you're very down to earth and she wasn't like cocky or like that it was just like you could tell she saw the entire lens through how people perceived her and her entire worldview you have to invest your time in things that are absolute if you live in a ethereal world this sort of like [ __ ] vapor world of fame it's a strange world that ebbs and flows with public opinion you can't rest your own self belief and your own identity on other people's opinions it's too volatile you're looking to yourself it's not it's not sane it's not rational i invest an extraordinary amount of time in things that are undeniable like whether it's rigorous exercise or archery or stand-up comedy if you're not funny like they'll give you a minute or two if you're famous they'll give you a minute you'll have like a minute on stage and then like where's the jokes bro where's the jokes like they're drinking and they're out and they want you to suck like if you if you if you're not funny then they want you to suck because that's funny that's a great story i went to see him and he [ __ ] bombed like those that that world is a world of absolutes jiu-jitsu is a world of absolute you either get tapped or someone taps you it's real simple you're trying to strangle each other like how does it go down like when someone's trying to survive and they're trying to get you and you're trying to get them that's a world of absolutes the things that i like are things like i like playing pool because either the ball goes in the hole or it doesn't there's no that doesn't like you it doesn't give a [ __ ] like how many tv shows you've been on or how many podcast episodes you've done they don't the balls don't give a [ __ ] they don't know so either knock the ball in the hole or not you either win the game or you lose and those there's a reason why i spend so much time invested in these things that are
undeniable and absolute it's because i think that's the only way to stay sane 100 because the world goes loopy and then your world is even more loopy because you're famous like that's a [ __ ] up world like you have to have a lot of objective thinking and a lot of introspective thought and then you have to be very self-critical you have to be the kind of person that can be self-critical but not hate themselves i can't even imagine being like truly like so when i met caitlyn at dinner the way i knew she had arrived was millions of flashes outside we were at craigs and in l.a but she goes to the crowd in the front door exactly i go to craig's too i go in the [ __ ] alleyway exactly she pulled up at the front with her girlfriend dressed to the nines and it was like that was intentional maybe it was almost to like it's 100 intentional part of the gig she's a male kardashian she was the kardashian or she was a male she's a she's not biologically whatever it is she's right a part of that clan exactly she's a part of the kardashian clan that's a [ __ ] up world that is a crazy world but there also was a few tidbits of like our conversation let me know she wasn't completely out of her mind with fame because she brought up kylie jenner to me she's like oh my daughter kylie has a makeup company and just said it in a way like as if i wouldn't know who her daughter kylie was and just a small makeup company or whatever it's like oh okay then you don't just assume i know who your whole family is but right but she was nice it was just i couldn't imagine being that famous because even just with the attention i have online it can be very mentally distressing you can wake up and like just have a near panic attack just looking at your phone so i've been trying to work out before i even look at my phone in the morning i don't even look at my phone i take it to another level i don't read any of my [ __ ] oh really don't read comments or okay so yeah i'd i've definitely gone in that route as well i don't really read comments i only read instagram comments because it's gonna be nicer but like youtube twitter mentions no yeah youtube and twitter seem to have they've cultivated uh an environment of
like ruthless criticism and and [ __ ] talking which people enjoy like people enjoy being able to talk [ __ ] about a guest or talk [ __ ] about the way you handle the ghast or you know talk [ __ ] about you and they should be able to but i don't think i have i don't feel as though i have any obligation to sit there and be like this person thinks i'm ugly this person thinks i'm stupid this person called me a man like i don't feel like i have to do that you don't have to do that it's not healthy for you yeah it's not healthy it's not good for your brain it's like you can't you can't process that many people's opinions and i feel that if you're honest with yourself and you're self-critical you'll do a good job of trying to improve upon your own faults like if i do something in a podcast and i don't like it like it'll [ __ ] with me like in the middle of the night like maybe i have to get up take a leak in the middle of the night i'm like why don't i say it that way i should have said it differently because when you're in the middle of talking like right now right this very second i don't know what the [ __ ] i'm gonna say next i'm just talking right and sometimes it'll go sideways you know and sometimes i'm tired or sometimes i worked out too hard or sometimes i'm too stoned and i'm like what am i even saying while i'm saying yeah yeah and also if you really tweak about it you'll think about the fact that millions of [ __ ] people are listening it's scary and then also like i've also adopted this sort of mindset of like not believing positive comments or negative comments because who am i to sit here and really take in someone saying you're my hero and you mean all this to me it's because first of all you don't [ __ ] know me even if you love me and are completely nice and and accolades and whatever you don't know me and also from living in la for the time that i did and just knowing people in the industry whatever it's like some of the people who are the most loved online are the [ __ ] most monstrous people in real life in fact this is almost a rule and then people who are severely hated tend to be the nicest off most awesome people look at
alex jones he's so hated he's like one of the nicest people i've met yeah well but you see the pathway well yeah and then you see it with some people where they were loved and then people found out [ __ ] about them like christy teigen and they just started telling kids to kill themselves that's a level of egregious that i'm like i'm not about cancel culture but like maybe timeout culture for this [ __ ] because you can't be [ __ ] messaging and also she got a double whammy because the girl that she told to kill herself came out as non-binary so now she's like bashing a non-binary person too well okay what does that mean i don't [ __ ] when you come out as non-binary when you come out as like so you i don't identify as male or female you're coming out as that like what i don't know what is going on it's not as indecisive exactly so that's what i'm going to do from now on i'm just going to come out as indecisive i'm going to say that that's not not even the gender thing or sexual orientation thing just about life i'm coming out as indecisive i'm a fence rider i mean honestly that's probably a little healthier than a lot of other mindsets but yeah i don't know the non-binary thing like so when i came out as trans it was like i came out and people knew what to expect next it's going to be some changes maybe someone physical you come as a non-binary it's like what does that mean yeah okay when love it when did you start your youtube channel 2016 2016. and so you had been out for how long at that point time uh 2016 was what five years ago so like three years but i hadn't had any surgeries when i started i paid for surgery through youtube oh [ __ ] yeah youtube funded your transition mm-hmm wow yeah how long does it take for your channel to become popular um well popular is relative it's like but i started making the way i gauge it is i started making a living off of it about six months in wow yeah success is [ __ ] good yeah and then all of a sudden the possibility of transitioning became a lot more real because i was like oh i'm having money put in my account every month because of this [ __ ] and what what do you think started
the popularity like what what was it that made people gravitate towards your channel because like there was a lot of options even back then there's way more options now but back then there's quite a few options like how did you get people to come to your channel well i believe i filled a niche right so like are there really other right-wing perspectives from a trans person online maybe caitlyn but that's a whole other thing you know what i mean so and i think that also even though i'm a political commentator by title i don't just stick to that i like to make videos about my life i'll make videos about my childhood should i enjoy through life and just being very personal and i film all my videos pretty much in my bedroom or my living room people feel like they're in my house with me right but that's also something that's dangerous when people start to feel too close to you and then they get very invested in your real life they start trying to tamper on your real life which happened to me like if i go too long without posting with like joey or something then it's like you cheated on blair you guys broke up it's like yeah so and then he gets called gay every five minutes yeah yeah his whole comment sometimes i look at his phone and just look through his comments and it's like gay [ __ ] gay okay i'm like why are you with me how are you how are you happy with it does he just blow it off he doesn't care that's that's healthy yeah yeah i think it takes a certain amount like takes a certain personality yeah and i think men who date trans women get probably more hate than trans women i would say yeah it's like a whole lot no i don't know about that from my perspective i don't get i mean i get hate for other reasons like my beliefs and all that kind of [ __ ] but i very rarely get hate like oh you're a [ __ ] [ __ ] but maybe if he had a channel does he have a channel yeah does that he doesn't really do it a lot but he posts but if he did it a lot and he had like a lot of followers like you do maybe he wouldn't because then people
would know him for other things other than just the fact that he dates you yeah that's his that's his claim to to do his youtube favorites just dating me it's really funny he'll get stopped in the mall like are you blair white's it's like whatever blair white's [ __ ] that's probably the way they used i'm sure yeah i'm sure yeah the mall is the worst place to talk to people about important things it's like dude i had like it was like a couple months ago like right before i moved and i don't sound like i'm talking [ __ ] because it was very sweet but this um girl and her mom came up and this girl is an adult i say girl but adult and she starts bawling like bawling being like i transitioned because of you and you changed my life and all this [ __ ] and she just kept going and going going and i felt so because that's part of like not believing positive comments it's like i don't know how to accept people being nice in that way i don't know yeah it's hard well it's hard you don't really know the person then you just meet them one day and this outpouring of emotion comes from this person that you've never met before and they have this insane connection to you so because like what we're doing we're both doing the same thing you and i right we're putting out our opinions on things and our thoughts on things and some people it resonates and some people it infuriates right and so you might meet someone that [ __ ] loves you and you've never met them before or you might meet someone that [ __ ] hates you and you never met them before and both of them are equally crazy yeah and in a strange way equally as valid however you take me is like how you [ __ ] take me right but this is another one of the really big realizations i had doing dmt so we should talk about that so since doing dmt which i did it two weeks ago i did it twice in two weeks i had this like overwhelming sense of like some people do dmt and then they start seeing people as npcs i've heard that talked about like they start seeing people it's like these are not real people with souls and like that's strange to me who said that i see it all the time people's like i've had
friends that do it and they start seeing people as npcs based on what kind of trip they had like if they saw the elves or didn't if they just saw cool colors or didn't and for me wait a minute wait a minute so you're saying that if people have a dmt trip and they didn't see the elves and they think of that person who had that dmt trip as an and as like an npc like you don't have like a soul because you didn't really connect with like any beings you just saw pretty colors like a you got a very simple experience you know what i mean um but i had the opposite from after doing a dmt i see so much more humanity in everyone i'm around like i feel very changed after doing dmt it's a very profound experience and like i'm just noticing more things about people i'm being more aware of like their body language when they talk to me and it's i think it was a very positive thing doing dmt and my experience was the closest thing to a spiritual experience i've ever had because i've never been a person that's been terribly connected to like anything larger than me i'd never been religious never been spiritual and i'd say it was the closest to like a spiritual thing for me i think it is a spiritual thing i think it's an undeniably spiritual thing that's the thing about it is that it forces you to think about love and connection and then the bonds that people have with each other in a way that you don't get from anything else the the the the powerful experience of a transcendent psychedelic moment is uh it's not like anything else you experience in life other than maybe like a near-death experience but you could argue that they're the same thing i know people that have had near-death experiences that swear that it was like a dmt trip i'm sure and there i think i don't think it's confirmed but people say that it's what happens when you legally die or medically die it's like you have a dmt trip and i could see that but it's not confirmed but there's a lot of in you know there's a lot of evidence that points to that i could see that and it in a way made me like less for full
of death because i was like if this is what happens at the end it's a great feeling yeah i'm okay with it going out like that like it's you just get this for me at least when i first was hitting it and then like you start to leave the planet i felt like this intense like set of rings going around my body like of just warmth and like happiness and love and then all of a sudden i'm like in space and um and i did see an elf which is what people call them what they look like um kind of like a court jester and it had like slinky long arms and it would and it sounds like crackhead [ __ ] if you've never done d.o.t no i don't know a lot of people have a shared like physical description of what these things look like one of my most profound experiences i there was a bunch of court jesters giving me the finger just flipping you off they're like [ __ ] you like i'm openly mocking me and i was like what killing your ego well i realized i take myself too seriously like as they were doing i was like i know what you're saying and they went like this like chill out that's it i like i got it like while they were doing i was like oh i get it i get it yeah that's the thing is like they a common experience people who meet the elves or the gestures whatever you want to call them they have like something to like teach you so for me it was kind of similar to learning not to take myself seriously but it was more so don't take life so [ __ ] seriously trust the process of life because i'm someone who even though i like to think i have my life pretty together i still worry about everything so much all the time i'm always stressed out and the elf was telling me like does everything have to be a fight blair is everything a war are you worried about everything like kind of clowning me a little bit literally cause it's kind of clownish like really is everything that serious yeah and i was like yeah i'll just chill out
yeah it was it was like that simple it's like okay i'll chill it's it's good that you can grasp that and have that experience and learn from it because a lot of people can't and that's when they have bad trips because they try to fight it and they try to resist no i don't know anything and then all of a sudden you're in this [ __ ] death spiral that was my mistake with shrooms i did shrooms um about a year ago it was actually when i was evacuating l.a because the riots went up with some friends in the mountains let's do shrimps and it was my first time doing it and the person who was supplying said shrooms basically gave me a huge plate like this big stacked it covered it in shrooms and said eat all of them which is very irresponsible for someone's first time i don't know i just know it was a plate covered show me the size of the plate give me an example oh my god so this is like a dinner plate like when you go to like roost chris and have a steak yes yes but it was shrooms and i have never done shrooms in my life i had no because until you do a psychedelic you have no concept of a psychedelic like weed isn't anything close to it not even the same planet so i ate all of it we walked down to the water and then the whole world changed but the difference between shrooms and dmt is like to me with shrooms you're still on earth even though earth's heavily distorted and that's because you have your eyes open and you're walking around that's true dmt you leave earth if you were in silent darkness if you were alone by yourself in the dark and you were laying down on mushrooms and you just closed your eyes it'd be very similar oh okay that makes sense to me yeah we were walking around and there's something about doing it like we were in this neighborhood in big bear with all these like cabins and like i was started getting so freaked out that everyone was just watching from their houses and it was me and five
people um and so we were all tripping walking back to the cabin from the water holding hands and walking slowly oh my god and i was like are people looking for people they probably are look at these freaks holding hands no yeah for sure and we were all like social media people or whatever we were like if we're gonna film this it's gonna be on youtube tomorrow wow be fun yeah i would i wouldn't have been ashamed it's it's um not the best idea to do that publicly a lot of people wind up doing that they do it publicly and they trip balls and they walk around or to eat a whole [ __ ] plate yeah i should have had one little shroom that's a good way to start yeah a good way to start is like one and you get like a little feeling maybe like like a duogram you know nothing crazy before you want to get into like the three to five gram like yikes i think it's also very important to do it when you're maybe in a good place in life like i would never want to do it if i was in a bad place like when i did shrooms half of my trip was really really scary and really bad because i was in a bad mindset like l.a was on fire i was escaping i felt unsure about the world um right before we uh tripped it was like a news report like trump going into a bunker as protesters descended from the white house and i was like let me escape this i don't i don't think it's good to use it like as escapism shrooms did trump have to go to a bunker is that real i think they i think he denied it after that but i remember in dc when it was the riots happening and i think they moved trump to a safe place i'm sure he would deny it but but when i did dmt um i did it very recently and i'm in like one of the best places of my life recently like i'm in a new city that i'm actually really enjoying even though it was a tough transition at first been through a couple of those um but i'm just very happy so i wasn't escaping anything i was like teach me what you have to teach me right yeah and then the second time it went even farther but it's um
it's very bizarre that it's so there it's so easy to get to it's just 15 seconds away it's one of the most insane experiences that a human being could possibly encounter yeah it's if that was a if there was a thing that you could like a ride at disneyland it would be a mile long mile long line to get into that [ __ ] thing right everybody would be like i want to go on that ride right because it's so [ __ ] crazy yeah and just the fact that i don't know so i had a lot of resistance towards ever trying psychedelics for a while because i did grow up in a household where everyone was addicted to drugs and my brother was in prison for selling drugs and heroin and all that kind of [ __ ] right um so i was like i'm never going to do a drug but then like i just see psychedelics a bit different it's not it's not meth it's not any of that [ __ ] they are very very very different yeah it's a whole different thing and like it's really hard to even articulate what the trip is with dmt specifically without ever doing it so like people were talking about the elves and i was like y'all are crackheads don't tell me about some [ __ ] hell i'm about to meet have you ever heard the expression entheogen that's what psychedelics are i think if you google the term and theogen i think it's uh of god i think that's something something of god that uh the idea is that these things are doorways to the divine like that there's there's really a place that you can go to and you go to through a chemical doorway in your mind through things that exist on this earth that people have to share they have to tell you about it and they share them and that through these experiences you you can transcend your time here on earth and get a perspective that's not available any other way so entheogen means uh chemical substance plant origin ingested to produce an extraordinary sense of consciousness yeah but what is the um
if that's just the definition of it but there's a root of the word like where does the word entheogen come from google that because it means something ceo is definitely religious yeah it means something that has to do with god let's see here well it makes nomenclature there it goes makes perfect sense to me uh full of god inspired possessed that's it so it translates to english as full of god so what is it from greek yeah it's from ancient greek that's that's what it is that's a better word for these things than drugs the problem with the term drug is it's all it's a blanket term that you could use for caffeine they use for nicotine use for alcohol yeah there's a lot of drugs yeah adrenaline's drug and while i'm sure it's possible i can't imagine after now doing dmt twice i can't imagine someone becoming like addicted to it oh i wouldn't know about that i know a guy was a tattoo artist that was doing dmt every [ __ ] day multiple times a day and then finally the entities had to sit him down and go hey [ __ ] stop stop like you're gonna lose your grip on this world wow yeah they literally literally told him to stop doing it he said see it's such an intense experience for me that i couldn't imagine wanting that every day it's kind of like i did it and i'm good for a while this guy's an intense guy that's [ __ ] nuts he's a wild dude he's uh an artist who does uh biomech tattoos you know that bio mech type of art you know what i'm talking about biomec see if you can google like biomech art my buddy has a sleeve done by this dude his um his art's incredible oh okay that makes sense but his is more like that like that exactly like that so it's like almost like alien that's cool yeah like that kind of [ __ ] that's that's a certain certain style of tattooing called biomech and this dude was [ __ ] he's well he is still elite at it that's a cool thing to specialize in that type of tattoo yeah that's a little different that's not quite that's more like it that's more like it that kind of it's all this weird sort of alien looking
[ __ ] trippy i would imagine you have to be an intense guy to even know how to do that so yeah well it's also to specialize in that one particular style of art it's like his vision of life was like all [ __ ] up and distorted and twisted yeah one of the people i did dmt with wasn't told to like not do dmt anymore by the owls but was told like you know you don't have to come back anymore almost in a gentle way like we came out of our trips and the friend was like they told me i don't have to come back anymore i'm like how many times you've done it he's like nine i'm like maybe take a break then i've done it none i've done it more than none yeah yeah i think i haven't done it a couple years though so maybe i could get back in there and have a conversation but the like i said the last time i did it was probably the most intense and the most weird because when they were giving me the finger but it was like those i've never like but it's just i think sometimes what we what people do and what i've certainly done is you protect yourself from criticism or you protect yourself from your own analysis of your your correct and incorrect thoughts and actions by bullshitting yourself and one of the the ways that you realize if you're bullshitting yourself is like how do you react to satire how do you react to being mocked how do you react to people not taking you seriously do you go ah that's their prerogative good luck or do you go [ __ ] them i'm gonna [ __ ] make a response video right you know and the the aliens or the whatever they were the jesters and they all had the little bells the the little hats yeah it's so crazy they look like a little courtyard it's nuts they but they were going like this [ __ ] you and they were like openly mocking me and my initial response was hey and then i realized like oh and they were like ah that's it you got it i was like they're kind of sarcastic oh yeah well they know you're [ __ ] they know all of your nonsense they know all of your thoughts
they know i mean whatever the [ __ ] they are whether they're a part of your consciousness or whether these are intelligent entities in another dimension that you're interacting with see that is what i've been questioning since doing this so i was told by a friend who's done dmt a lot that after you do dmt pay attention to the real world and if you believe that the elves are real beings that are independent of something created in your own brain due to the dmt they'll like send you a sign right and i was like again crackhead [ __ ] no i'm not gonna meet the elves in real life right right so one of the things in my first trip that they kept telling me was this is not the end this is not the end they kept telling me that because i think i was asking them like is this what happens when you die like what is this they said the phrase this is not the end multiple times directly after the trip we go to a restaurant and i wasn't liking the inner like there's like a glow after you dmt that you kind of want to maintain and i didn't like the energy in the first restaurant so i was like let's leave went to another restaurant what was wrong with the energy the people were just weird i don't know it's like you create like a bubble when you do it with like friends and you're like i don't like what they might do to our bubble so then we go to another restaurant and there's a huge sign that just says this is not the end on the thing and i'm like whoa what and then i looked at my friend who told me to look for signs and he's like told ya whoa so i'm like i mean i'm not saying that i think that they really are beings i'm going back and forth between that you know what i got the impression i've got the impression of this before but i got the impression after the last time that i did it that the world that you and i are operating in right now like this conscious waking world of tangible physical objects you can touch and feel and weigh is like a thin sliver of veneer that we're existing in we're existing in this thin sliver of space and we're connected to this thing that we can experience under
normal conscious states and this thing is constantly being affected and changed by what's happening in this thin sliver of veneer so all the thoughts that you have all the behavior that you exhibit all the actions that you take all of those things that exist in this thin veneer is affecting all of this is going on in eternity that there's this infinite space of whatever these things are whether they're souls or interdimensional creatures or beings but that the way you interact with other people has a direct effect on that world and that world has a direct effect on the way you interact with people and that you have to develop some sort of harmony and i think that people struggle to do that throughout history and that's one of the reasons why religion is so it's so common it's not just common it's amongst all tribes they've always had a belief almost all of them almost all major civilizations have had a belief in something larger than themselves and whether it's gods or whether it's uh like the the a lot of the native americans thought that a lot of their gods existed in nature the gods of animals and coyotes were gods and the sun was a god and that these there's some larger than this current experience thing that we must pay homage to that we must give praise to that we we we must feel the divine intervention of these other realms and it's just exists in all cultures in all societies and i think part of that is because there's moments in time where you recognize and you can have these moments in time whether it's the birth of a child whether it's true love whether it's just the bonding between friends and an incredible moment in life where you feel like you get up just a chance for a second to peek your head through the clouds something more yeah and see that there's something more and that you're somehow another connected to this but our monkey bodies will not allow us to see it because to survive you can't leave really live in that realm
for most of human history if you wanted to survive you had to be a barbarian you got to be savage you had to have knives and tools and you have to be able to fight off predators and warring tribes that want to invade you there was you couldn't live in the spiritual realm until they figured out how to stockpile ammunition and food and develop walls exactly and then they started tripping balls right but that that is one of the first things at least for me in my experience with gmt both times i tripped the first thing that happened other than those warm rings of love i talked about before is i felt my body disappear i like almost part by part i felt my hair disappear i felt my hands disappear i felt like the clothes i was wearing became like stupid like i instantly lost sense of my body and like the meat that i'm here in um and it's funny because leading up to doing it my friend was like i'm a little concerned that you're gonna go into this and like come out and be like i'm a man i need to [ __ ] detransition like to have some weird gendered crisis because of it um who thought that well michael was probably like like if you do it i wonder if you're gonna have alice yeah oh that [ __ ] idiot right right right so he was kind of tripping me out a little bit and i was like he's so silly i know he has he's probably [ __ ] with you probably um he seemed genuinely concerned though he's like just but but i didn't have he done it i don't think so that's a problem yeah yeah um but this is more than anybody yeah right um but there's no concepts of gender when you're tripping on dmt your body isn't a thing so why would your gender be a thing it's like a different universe no sensual there's a there's a sense of sensuality though i've seen like women like female figures that were like yes dancing centrally and geometric shapes yeah and touching other female figures and and touching other human bodies like some what what represented
human bodies but the thing is like whatever the image that you're seeing it only stays what that is for a second or two then it changes and then it becomes something else and it's like this constant weird and again you sound like a crackhead if you're talking to someone who's never had it before i know i i filmed a video my dmt experience and the whole time i was talking about it i was like ninety percent of people that watchers are gonna think i'm a [ __ ] croc head now because but but once you experience it you realize it is real and for me like i said because i've never been connected to anything higher than me maybe people will hear that and think that oh this is a very shallow worldly person in the worst way but i've never believed in god i've never believed in like a sense of higher self but i got that with dmt suddenly i was like oh this is really small what we're in and almost completely inconsequential yeah but in order to stay alive the thing is we're so attached to the monkey body that's what we have we have primate bodies and in order to stay alive like this [ __ ] thing right here this is our ancestor this chimp i mean not really grandma but that whatever that is is very similar to what we used to be we used to be some weird crazy brutal primate and now we're still pretty crazy and pretty brutal but we're moving into some strange new realm where we're eventually gonna look like this like if you think about what that is versus what this is like this is the direction we're going in and that's the direction we came from and we're still trapped in this body of of muscle and sinew and tissue and and hormones and the the need to breed and the need to be accepted by the community to to achieve status so that your your social status encourages more people to breed with you like this is all monkey [ __ ] it's all the same [ __ ] yeah and i i guess i've just really appreciated the sense of vastness that dmg gave me because i feel like i'm like an a more or less rather um materialistic person suddenly like i tried to go to the mall the other
day and i was like maybe i should go get like a purse or buy some [ __ ] that costs way too much for no reason and i was like that seems stupid before that i would have been totally down so it just made me less attached to what is here but you can go too far with that too yeah you could lose your grip on the natural world and be a [ __ ] hermit living in the cave somewhere just wanting to trip all day i'll be that eventually like oh yeah for sure maybe not the tripping part but like i see my life as like i'm only going to be here doing [ __ ] like this for a little bit why do you say that because you're doing it now i give this that's the thing that i have with people that like think one day i'm going to retire and this is going to be my golden years like what are you talking about [ __ ] well i wanna want to look at like the the end of their life as being some like magic time where they're just gonna be happy sitting around on a porch drinking lemonade yeah i guess i just am a pessimist by nature and i see the direction that society is going in and it's kind of like just worrisome and so i envision the antithesis of what we have now which is the state more and more in your life people telling you what to do people in your [ __ ] to the point where you can't go to a restaurant in some places without getting a medical procedure and then getting it checked by a minimum age worker at the front of the business um the opposite of that is like what me being in like the middle of nowhere with like some dogs then you might get bored and you might need more social interaction more intelligent conversation there might be a com you know you you might be more miserable that way than you are like there's a certain amount of fun and being in the middle of this chaotic situation and being around like-minded people and you go out to dinner with them and go what the [ __ ] is going on they're like yeah what is going on yeah it's there's fun to it like i'm not encouraging society to go in this general direction in order for other
people to have fun i want to be clear but the fact that it's happening right now you can find solace in like-minded people and then it actually makes the conversations more fun people out of their [ __ ] mind and you find a tribe and i'm i'm i try very hard to not be tribalistic especially when you're doing like political stuff and whatever like i never really feel at home in a room full of conservatives i've been invited to a lot of like whether it's just like gop events or have you gone together some of them some of them type of [ __ ] i did a a talk with the log cabin republicans a couple weeks ago that's hilarious the laws those are the gay republicans are they really yeah is that why they call themselves logs is that what the log cabin's all about i guess so oh my god that's hilarious and i met some lovely people but i also never feel at home in it because it's just so tribalistic it's so partisan and for me it's like i think of like all my friends like the closest people in my life none of them have anything in common so my best friend is a little person from cuba like a literal like he's has dwarfism my second best friend is the only transgender refugee from ghana so she's from africa and like has she's very different politically than me so is he um then i have like an anarchist friend michael malus and i have like trans escort friends that i have then i have like very like necktie conservative friends it's like i like that but none of my friends have a ton in common because i'm just attracted to individuals rather than like this person thinks like me so this is my friend i have those but i like having people that are completely different the log cabin republicans might be the bridge that might be those those might be the people that can pull everybody together because they can check off all these ideological boxes right in terms of like sexual orientation and being open-minded to lbgtq issues like hey you know he's gay but he's also conservative let's
listen to him maybe he's got a point maybe he's a kind conservative well that's the thing so michael malus and i have discussed this theory that like the best way to red pill people is to achieve like acceptance of lgbt people in the right-wing spaces because people aren't going to go to like where the nazis are basically you know what i mean i mean gab like gab we didn't find any nazis i was disappointed you didn't look hard enough but when you alienate when you alienate lgbt people you're alienating their friends and their family you're alienating the girl who loves to go shopping with her gay best friend teenage girls you know what i mean and it's like maybe just chill off that [ __ ] like there's a lot of values you probably shouldn't compromise on if you're like a true conservative but like whether or not someone's like taking it up the ass or wants to be a girl it's like that's your biggest fault it's the dumbest value to concentrate on it is but it's like the main value for so many of them well it's a fear and it's so it's a weird religious thing too because like in the bible you know homosexuality in the old testament is frowned upon but so is eating shellfish right so is wearing two different types of claws you're supposed to stone your kids if they talk back i don't think conservatives really do that there's a lot of [ __ ] in the bible that's very wacky but they concentrate on the gay one for some i mean i don't know what it may be back in the time see one of the um major theories about the advent of christianity has to do with psychedelic drugs and uh there's a guy named john marco allegro and he was a um he was an ordained minister and he was on the dead sea scrolls translation committee the group of people that were translating the dead sea scrolls and he was also a theologian so he was a he was an ordained minister but he became agnostic over the years because he was studying religion
for so long he's like this is all kind of crazy like so he's like i'm just gonna like i'm not gonna have any ideological perspective when it comes to religion i'm agnostic even though he was an ordained minister so when he was hired and when he was uh brought on as this part of one of the experts on languages to translate this uh the oldest known version of the bible and i think it's the only verse in the bible that we have that's in aramaic and when he translated dead sea scrolls over i believe it was over 14 years he wrote a book called the sacred mushroom in the cross and what he said was that all of this stuff that you're reading is you know you're you're there's translations you're translating things from ancient hebrew which is a language is based on numbers right like ancient hebrew letters doubled as numbers because there was no there was no numbers so the letter a was also the number one so like it's really weird but you gotta think about this and i'm i hope i'm not [ __ ] this up but the way it was explained to me was that language in ancient hebrew had numerical value that words had numerical values like the word love and the word god they have the same numerical value like that they're using these words in the cert like the way you would place the letters the same it was because it had a number value to it that we don't think of when it gets translated to greek into latin to english yeah and so he read this all these years and he came to the conclusion that this is all a misunderstanding and then our version of what christianity is it's a crazy book i have multiple copies of it um and i have original copies of it because it was bought up i believe it was brought up by the catholic church and then a guy named john irvin put it back into print a few years back but this book is essentially saying that all of christianity was essentially about fertility rituals and consuming psychedelic mushrooms and that the fertility rituals because people [ __ ] died so often back then that you needed to have a lot of babies yeah and people need to constantly have
babies and how do you talk to god yeah so his thought was this i think or the thought is that the reason why they didn't want people to be homosexual is because they wouldn't have children and if you're homosexual and you're not having children you're not helping to contribute to the population because people are dying off like they would have rituals to try to bring babies into the world they would like try to make people more pregnant more you know more fertile they this was a fertility ritual was a big part of these ancient religions right because infant mortality was so high people died if you got a [ __ ] cut and it got infected you're gone you're dead people died all the time right they literally couldn't afford to just have gay people running around right yeah and i mean that would make kind of sense if you were thinking about it from the context of people who lived 8 000 plus years ago whatever it was i guess that's just why i've always had i mean i've always respected religious freedom i i see that it does something positive in many people i knows lives and i think that that's great um but i've i've always been so removed from even like caring or understanding religion or why people think that like we should be reading books from thousands of years ago to determine how we live now that's always been a very weird concept to me like i've always been not an atheist because i don't even care enough to say atheist i've always just been like i don't care if there's a god or not really yeah i mean i guess i've thought about it but never to the point i've always had this i think that like i'll find out or i won't find out but once you did dmt did that change well that's the thing i i have that sense of a bigness now and that there's more but i don't know if that's god you should have a t-shirt that just says a bigness sell it sell it on youtube just a bigness that's what i think the word that's like the word i think it's like a [ __ ] bigness to like what it shows you i like it and um i'll wear it get me a large a bigness i like it yeah so i don't know
i don't i don't think it's god per se but i do maybe but i do i did get the sense that this like gesture that was talking to me this elf this clown this crazy [ __ ] she i had the sense that she's been around me forever it's crazy that you saw jesters too well it's a common thing is it gestures are comments are common well yeah but to me it looked like a courtyard like and everything else was colorful it was like colors you can't even describe it was so beautiful but then she was like black and white like a like a [ __ ] gesture like a gesture yeah wow yeah and but that's that's what gets me questioning like if these really are beings independent of what our brain could create or that actually exist on some level because they're like uniform experiences with certain things like on shrooms like oh the table's gonna warp and you're gonna look at your dog and your dog is gonna look funny and whatever but like to actually see like what we perceive to be like autonomous beings and people to have similar recountings of what they look like it's gonna be like are those [ __ ] real right because that's what's weird to me it's like you met the elves too yeah whereas when you do streams it's like oh the tree looks funny too yeah you know if you close your eyes you can meet the elves too i'm going to try to do that on streams i didn't know you could oh yeah silent darkness is the way to go you'll see pyramids and hieroglyphics and you'll see aliens and ufos and they'll tell you the earth is dying and they'll tell you it's like mushrooms tend to be there's like a lot of apocalyptic vision that's attached to like extraterrestrial ideas that are that happened my second trip which was scary yeah i i haven't even told anyone this because i haven't even been ready to say it because like my friends that did dmp with me and afterwards we were telling each other our trips but i left out that i think i saw hell which is scary pat benatar says hell is for children i guess i'm a [ __ ] child i'm a huge baby because i saw what i thought was like the entry way to hell
i didn't go fully in but i saw like it and it was really scary yeah i saw like just suffering and pain and like i don't know if it's like the traditional like hell in terms of like in the bible or whatever but i saw just like an area that you would never want to go yeah well whether or not hell exists there's hell on earth like if you are carted off to a concentration camp and tortured if you live in north korea if you live in china if you're a uyghur muslim in china and your whole family gets thrown into a train and shipped off to some work camp and tortured and you know i mean think of all the horrific things that happened during the holocaust all the horrific things that have happened in many genocides what the what the [ __ ] the mongols did during the the wrath of the con we have no concept of it we have no idea we have no idea imagine living during the time of genghis khan and you watch these people torture your whole family cut cut the limbs off of your children and throw them at you and laugh and light your [ __ ] building on fire and they people throughout history have done horrendous things to other people and the terrifying part is like you don't even have to look to history to see it because a lot of it's happening right now like so you've had i don't want to butcher her name but yon me park yes so i admit to have been completely ignorant about the realities of north korea until i found her channel and i'll watch videos and the things that she'll describe in the experiences it's like i am the luckiest person on earth to simply have not been [ __ ] born there and you hear like her stories of like seeing like starving deformed people on the streets and children eating rats and like just the craziest [ __ ] that there's no concept of from this [ __ ] who was born in california right and moved to texas right you think it's hard that you were in a small town yeah [ __ ] like and this is also one of the things that i've been really grateful for with my friendship with michael malus
i'm sure he loves how many times he mentioned him on this phone he's becoming popular i know he is but he um one of the things i've been very thankful for is i never really had a real job before youtube in the life i have now so i don't really necessarily have a concept of like toiling and like maybe what life could be if i was like struggling really hard for money or whatever and he is older than me and he tells me all the time he's like you need to be thankful for what you have because your life is literally phenomenal like the fact that you can just be you for a living and just talk to your friends for a living and like you don't have to worry about [ __ ] like that it's like don't ever lose gratitude for that and so it's pretty extraordinary if you think about all the different ways that people can make a living the fact that you and i both we just kind of talk [ __ ] with friends that's the other thing it's like when michael came over i was like hey you wanna come over and just like talk [ __ ] for a video and he's like yeah he came over we just like laughed for an hour got him an uber home and it's like that's what pays my [ __ ] rent i know like it makes you feel like almost not guilty but like what did i do to deserve this i feel like that all the time yeah cause all my jobs are like that stand-up comedy when i do commentary for the ufc all my jobs are less like how the [ __ ] did i get this job how's this possible yeah you know i think it really is just you don't want to contribute it completely to luck but i think it's a lot of luck like 90 luck because especially like you probably know this living in l.a for as long as you did it's like you just meet people that it's like this person is so much more talented than means person so much smarter than me maybe prettier than me and they cannot get ahead at all in life and i'm like this this person deserves it more than me i don't know if it's 90 luck but it's a high percentage but there's also discipline and that is one of the hardest things for people to come by when people don't have it it's so hard
to fake it's so hard to get yourself to do things yes and i don't necessarily know why you know when i was a kid i was not disciplined but i was always obsessed so i get obsessed with things so if if they tell me i have to clean my room or they tell me homework is due by the 12th i i can't do it i just can't do it they tell me i have to be at work at the time i can't do it that's me too i can't do it i can't do it i'm just some [ __ ] loser i'm a loser i guess i'm just always going to be a loser but then i found things like for me it was martial arts and art it was art a lot it was drawing and i was obsessed and so i would draw all day and i was really good at it and it became a thing where i was like i couldn't wait to get a loan with a pad and a pen and start drawing so then i realized i go okay okay i'm not disciplined but if i just find things that i love to do then i am right because i'm not it's not that i'm not disciplined i'm just not disciplined to do things yeah yeah yeah that's what you have to find what people have to find is a thing that they love to do and then do it as much as you can just go but if you don't love to do it don't do it do it if you have to to make a living and then find the thing that you love to do and do that so as much as it is luck it's also you have to have the mentality to push through and find the path and be able to deal with adversity and a lot of people can't they encounter like a little bit of a struggle a little bit of problems uh too much i'd rather get high too much i'll get drunk with my friends too much i'll do pills and go to a concert and that's what a lot of people do and they wind up ruining the luck that they do have yeah for me it was seeing all the wrong decisions made from the people around me when i was a child so like i said before i was the only person in my immediate family to not be addicted to a substance my brother was heavily involved with gangs a lot of violence a lot of really shady people in and out of my house all day long
my parents fought like nothing i'd ever seen like i'm surprised i have a healthy sense of relationships now because all i saw was like horrible fighting um and there was cheating that happened between them and drugs and alcohol and bad decisions and so i grew up just constantly surrounded by people doing the wrong things although my dad held a good job and took care of us money but it was still a lot of bad [ __ ] um and so i think i learned at an early age like okay so this is the blueprint of not what not to do like so my brother for example it's like how did you end up the one in jail and down and out and not taking care of your kids and whatever and i'm the [ __ ] [ __ ] and i'm like the one that has my life together how was that we had the same opportunity to grow up in the same lifestyle it's because i was a little younger than him and i saw him do everything wrong so i was like okay so i'm not going to do math i'm not going to join a gang imagine me in the game [Laughter] story right but um so i think that's important too sometimes you can just see but then you think of how many kids are growing up in the inner cities and in bad communities and they can never make that connection that what you're seeing is the wrong thing to do so maybe it was the internet now that i'm thinking about it i was able to kind of see people live other lives through my space and through the internet i guarantee that had an effect yeah because i've always been on the internet even before i did it for a living what what do you think led you to identify as a conservative well i don't identify as a conservative but you call yourself a conservative no no i said people call me you go to conservative things right so i'm center right i think that's the best way to describe my ideology to me conservative entails like religion when i think of like a conservative republican i think of like someone whose ideology is reinforced by religious beliefs and that's not me but if you say send a right to most people they would say you're a conservative well of course but they also call me far right and say that you're associating with far right people that really aren't you know what
i mean so labels are for the birds for me if anything um i think that there is just more of a sense on the right usually towards individualism rather than collectivism and that's something that really spoke to me when i turned like 18 when i started realizing well if i'm going to be trans and i'm going to figure out how to get the money to transition and live this very like specific life that's not going to be supported by many people around me i'm going to have to be like a complete individual and be okay with that and really take my life into my own hands and manifest what i want to do and and be a capitalist it's not easy to transition it's a lot of money so that's those kind of always geared me towards the right i guess but but again i'm not a conservative in the traditional sense i mean how could i be and i guess i could be but you could be one of those like self-loathing conservatives it's possible like there's a lot of those pray the gay away people that's so sad to me it's the saddest [ __ ] ever i've i've met obviously people like that and and the funny part about my life is like because i've been in like so many rooms at these like conservative events it's like i have this like list of famous conservative commentators that have like tried to [ __ ] you and every time i'm drunk with michael malus i drop one more name and he's always like yeah have you ever seen that video where there's a guy who has a bow tie on and he is talking to a preacher and uh he says i'm not gay no more i am delivered oh yeah yeah that video yeah i think that guy whenever i think of the pray the gay away i think of that poor bastard because that guy is about as gay as a [ __ ] guy could ever be gay it's a route milo went uh did he really i mean it's it's it's true for a show but at the same time like this find that video i love that video because it's just they all start dancing and then they huddle like a gang bang they all get on top of each other they like smoosh
they all smush and they're like dancing together and huddling and feeling the holy spirit see i've never understood denying no that's not is this another one whoa look at this one they're both those are some [ __ ] voguing that's it that's it for sure give me some volume tell those people i'm not gay no more i am delivered he's got a big yellow bow tie yellow i would not date a man i would not carry a purse i would not put on makeup i will i will love a woman oh women now watch this he starts dancing look at this listen look at him hold on wait a minute oh just one minute now either you gonna believe this stuff or you ought to stop preaching it if you can't praise god with him you're an unbeliever you're a non-believer you're an anti-vaxxer this is nice look at this they're all gonna dance together look at this listen nobody does it better than black people know how to do churches oh yeah for sure i grew up catholic and it's boring and scary oh yeah it's all boring and then just depressing and weird yeah these people are having a good [ __ ] time look at them [Music] they have dancing they figured out how to connect it to good music well also gay people know how to party yeah but everybody's yeah but they're all getting it that guy's not buying it look at him what the hell oh he's got a problem it still looks like he's alone this is why he institutes the gangbanger the [Music] a big league and show enough believers that always have a big a bigness a bigness and showing up believers see now they got a gang bang going on look at them they're all huddled
oh this is his dream that's right look at these people dancing up they're like bees when they try to smother one of them hornets that comes to kill the the queen they'll get on top of them and buzz until they die hilarious dude we get it i've never understood like denying aspects of who you are like because they think they could change it they know if they pray hard enough they can change it and they hate the fact that they're not like everybody else yeah for me i've always liked the fact that i'm not like anybody else i actually think that's like a strength not a weakness and also like like i said before everyone knew before i even told them i was going to transition because i've just always been such a [ __ ] that like that like um when i was 13 i was in my small little town wearing like glitter heels and i had purple hair that's hilarious i was i was literally the depiction of the type of person who hates me now i was like i used to be you so don't even tell me about myself but why i don't understand why they hate you like why because you're personally i don't agree with trans kids like young underage people transitioning but you if imagine if someone had come to you when you were seven or eight and said hey blair i think what's really going on is you're trans and we can help you now and it would greatly improve the way you feel how feminine you are when you go through puberty because we're going to stop it and nip it in its butt you'll be way more feminine i don't think that that would have been good for me i don't think that there's when you're going through puberty regardless trans or not it's such a confusing insane time i don't think it's necessarily the right thing to pump a bunch of hormones in a kid and there's also no telltale foolproof way i mean we're speaking in hypotheticals like maybe if someone would have been psychic and known it and known i would have always been okay with it but what if i would have had some sort of like ideological shift halfway through and been like well maybe
even though i think i'm trans maybe transition isn't the right way to deal with it there are people who believe that right like there are people who believe that you can absolutely be trans have gender dysphoria but that transitioning isn't the solution there's a lot of people that believe that you'll eventually just become a gay man exactly yeah and there's there's some evidence to that but the problem with that evidence is like just the fact that trans people exist in the first place shows you that there's so much variety to how human beings are there's there's the variables are so extreme like there's a there's clearly some sort of a spectrum of people and some people would be fine just being a gay man but some people don't think well and i don't think well that's the thing is i think two things to me true at once and that's kind of like the problem with this whole issue is that i have met trans people who transitioned very i know a girl who transitioned when she was literally 12 i believe and her whole family hid from the school and the rest of her family they literally they didn't fake her death but they kind of just stopped talking about her existing and then she became a girl and they just had a daughter and no one ever talked about it isn't that weird but she transitioned at 12 so her whole life and she's happy they move yeah they moved yes so they moved to a new town and they had a daughter in this new town and they hid it from everyone and she only recently came out and she's happy she would not regret it at all but then you also have these kids going online talking about this was a mistake this is a horrible thing this was a social contagion yeah and especially being me because i've been publicly empathetic towards those people and i'm one of the few trans people that is public online that talks about it i get a lot of emails so it's like i can see my friends on an anecdotal level that like are happy with it and transition very very young but then i have like 10 emails from like today yeah but you're not going to get as many emails from the people that are happy as
you are from the people that are unhappy right very true very true i guess just the issue is that there's no way to really know that this person's not gonna regret it and at the end of the day when you transition you are taking away your ability to have kids you are sterilizing yourself at least male to female do you get do you get love from the trans community or you get some love do you get mostly love i get a lot um so i get a lot of love from trans people that there's just so many people in the trans community now that it's like there's so many different types of people so the people who are on tick tock maybe that think the extent of them being trans is that they're quirky and weird and have green hair and they're non-binary demi boy whatever those people don't like me demi boy i don't know what it is all these phrases so many new ones but then there's trans people that transition think of black angel he and i are good friends and if i go to like an lgbt club or bar here in austin rally or whatever i can't really walk more than two feet without people showing love and gratitude and whatever so in real life people are nice to you oh yeah i've never had anyone be mean to me in real life isn't that weird right those likes your perceptions are based on anonymous people that reach out to you to be shitty in fact this happened to me um a few months ago i was in west hollywood filming a video on the street and this person came up to me and was like i'm such a huge fan i can take a picture took a picture edited the video they made the video and then i saw them posting i'm in blair's video and i looked at their profile and in their history they have all these hateful tweets about me i'm like i'm like so even if you hate someone it's like you're still kind of their fan if you're paying attention then because people i hate i don't watch their [ __ ] i don't want to see it but it's also the idea of hating someone versus meeting them and realizing that they're just a person yes and not really hating them just meeting them and knowing oh it's
just just another human being like the idea of hating someone you don't know is really kind of crazy unless yeah you're hating hitler yeah unless they've done it you're hating killed someone yeah yeah exactly you're hating some barbarians some horrible person who's responsible for death or destruction or whatever like you know if you just hate someone based on something that you think you can contribute to them like to you the the hate her because she's against kids transitioning it's so easy to say you hate someone it's so easy to just like lash out online yeah that's uh one of the major problems with our culture is that so many people don't know how to think and so many people are when i mean don't know how to think like they don't recognize that a lot of times they're being negative it's just to distract themselves from their own real problems and it's often projection yes that's why like so when the dave chappelle thing happened and they had these protests um one of the trans activists i believe her name was ashley marie preston or something like that that's the one who had all the hateful tweets yeah so you're up on this little soapbox literally i think they brought a soapbox yes and talking about being anti-hate and anti-trans hate and anti-bigotry and then you have just this like huge list of like talking about asian [ __ ] and this and that and it's like [ __ ] you are projecting and you are everything that you hate everything that you hate well it's people are hypocrites and they want attention and then you know the thing is they think the way to get attention is if you are in a marginalized group and that group has been attacked and you can stand up and say the most forceful loud thing about this person who is in your opinion attack this marginalized group gives you clout you know there's a lot of people that just get clout from enhancing negativity and you know and just projecting it yeah and then so you're friends with dave chappelle yeah so did all the backlash affect him at
all like mentally he's not online in terms of like dave is not on social media at all doesn't he doesn't i mean it's for the best [ __ ] yeah he's you know it affects him in that it's not accurate it's not who he really is like he's not a hateful person by any stretch of the imagination so they're distorting who he is but he gets it and he he gets his position in pop culture and in culture in general he's a spokesperson he's not just a comic he's like you know every generation has someone who people go to not just for their humor but also for their perspective on things and a wise perspective that's dave he's probably the most respected comedian of our era not just one of the greats of all time but one of the most respected in terms of the way he talks about things he's number one really yeah he's very thoughtful he's very intelligent and you know he's just almost universally respected amongst comedians which is very rare because comedians are some [ __ ] jealous bad stabbing selfish [ __ ] i bet yeah there's a lot such a hard industry to rise up and i'm sure it's just so toxic well it's also the ones that suck are the most bitter right and the most [ __ ] and that but it's again the same thing it's like so many of them they really have mediocre work and they don't like the fact that it's not being recognized and respected that people don't come out to see them in the clubs and they can't see it that way but they don't see it because they think they're great because they're they're narcissists right and so their perspective is anybody that gets way further than them first of all they feel bad when they find out that you know kevin hart's selling out 50 000 seats so that this person is doing that or you know sebastian sold out madison square garden four nights in a row and they're just like and it's unattainable it's not gonna happen to you it's literally not gonna happen you're 43 years old your life is [ __ ] you know you could barely sell a thursday night at the funny bone in cleveland like what
are you gonna do what the [ __ ] are you gonna do and that feeling is terrible does cleveland even have a funny bone yeah i don't know yeah columbus hilarious and not funny no no yeah hilarity is yeah yeah my point is they get angry and so they start coming up with reasons why that person sucks they suck they [ __ ] always suck you're [ __ ] up transphobic [ __ ] homophobic racist uh insensitive to xenophobic and islamophobic and that but what the what's really going on is there's a feeling that they get when they see other people succeed that makes them feel terrible so they associate that person with a bad feeling and they hate that person what they really hate is their own lack of success 100 that's a lot of it and then for comics at least yeah and i mean that's a lot of people but and then the thing about chappelle is like at this point the specials went out long enough i don't feel like we're spoiling anything but the special to me in large part was about his trans friend daphne who i believe was literally killed by trans activists yeah there's some there's some dispute about that um there's some some people that have done it's really interesting i love the internet because of this there's some people that have done a deep dive into like how many tweets were actually directed towards daphne and like how many of them were really negative the thing they don't take into account though is dms and that's the thing it's like we don't know what her dms were it's dms and also it's it only takes one thing to be said that triggers an unhealthy person or a sad person or someone in the bad place to do something bad yeah so it's impossible to look into her mind and heart in that time and say that it was that however i don't think it helps i think that the feeling of ostracization from your own community to be a trans person who is suddenly like [ __ ] now how do i even face any of my probably mostly lgbt friends most lgbt people have that's their friend group um like how do i go to these establishments that are lgbt now how do i maybe do she wanted to be a comedian do a comedy show to lgbt people
those are the places that were booking her if she was booking things um i think that could really affect someone yeah yeah being ostracized by your community is rough yeah it's it's one of the worst feelings and like for me i just think that people really missed the point of the special obviously like they didn't look into it really just because he was defending his friend through most of it and talking about kind of how they killed her so that's his perspective maybe it didn't happen but it's tragic it might have happened it's just the the deep dive they did was that she was dragged on twitter and they tried to find examples but the thing about that is again people do delete things and then particularly they delete things right after someone [ __ ] kills themselves that's true but there's also like sub tweets like whether or not she responded to those tweets and she might not have she might just read them and then but then the other thing is the dms the dms are it's like you know you don't know you don't know how many dms you got yeah and those are the ones where people send the most crazy [ __ ] because they're not regulated in the same way that twitter that's also you gotta realize like when someone's saying something in a bit like he's just trying to get to the point the point was she experienced hate whether she experienced it in person phone calls dms or publicly on twitter i don't know what it was but sometimes it's easier to say dragged on twitter and then it look and you're trying to get to a narrative and the narrative is they they made her feel like [ __ ] and she killed herself right and it's not a narrative without precedent towards people who do step away from sort of like the woke mob and ideology because do you remember august ames she was a porn star who took a stand and said that she didn't want to work with gay men because there was like a risk of hiv or whatever so whether or not that's valid i think that porn industry probably has great testing i don't know if that was a real fear she
should have had but at the same time um because she said that she was dragged horrifically by like the lgbt community and like she [ __ ] killed herself over that remember that yeah it happened i think like 20 14 15 or something like that so i mean it is hard to and obviously i know that just like diverge from from that ideology and you get a lot of [ __ ] hate for it yeah that's unfortunate you know because you would think that the people that have experienced the most discrimination would theoretically at least be the most open-minded and compassionate to others no it's the exact opposite the places where i feel the most comfortable rooms i feel the most comfortable in are the rooms people would never expect me to be able to be in and feel comfortable like i mean let's just if you go there's a difference between the narrative of a person who they really are so you have been called transphobic like you said alex jones transphobic tim poole transphobic michael malus probably not michael but um should i on paper we keep going back to on paper have felt comfortable in the rv talking to y'all and like being in that room maybe not if i've believed all the things that trans activists said i would have maybe felt like i was in a room full of [ __ ] dudes that were going to beat me up or something that was such a [ __ ] of a podcast i know there's way too many microphones on i know eight people trying to talk over each other and it's like it was iconic it was funny it was funny yeah yeah it freaked a lot people got mad like oh what are they doing together i know you know what they really hated how many people were watching yeah because it was funny it was like his most sweet episode ever it was like and and the the funny part is like you're achieving those types of numbers i think that absolutely has like over 2 million views or something and it's like to achieve those numbers and it's like all it was was just like an rv yeah just like hey come over okay well his what he's doing
i always thought about doing but he did it and he did it perfectly he put together a roving studio like his studio is awesome i mean it really is [ __ ] badass he's got an rv that's got microphones and desks and he's got like a control center and there's a big television so they could show videos and clips on it like this is amazing and i have talked about doing that like a dozen times that'd be awesome outfitting a dope sprinter van and you know setting it up like that yeah i would nev i learned for that part and you can't [ __ ] eight people on a microphone that was just stupid it was funny people were like why weren't you talking so much i was like i'm okay with being out testosterone by [ __ ] alex jones and joe rogan and temple like i'm okay with not being the loudest [ __ ] in the room in that room well everybody was just it was just there were so many voices it's too many it doesn't it doesn't work like and i say that when i do podcasts to people like if i want to talk to someone and it's it's a fun conversation and they want to bring a friend that i know i'm like yeah i'll be fine well the three of us will be a good time but even three people is that even rare for you well it's it's rare it's also hard because when i'm talking to someone i want to let them talk and then i'm also trying to think of like should i talk should i let that play out what i have a question should i internet and it's like a skill there's a dance that you're doing when two people are talking when there's a third person there you got like three then you have to dance partners all on the road stepping on each other's toes it's more tricky with four people it's super tricky then when you get to double that it's chaos yeah it's just madness yeah it was iconic regardless though and i really like what tim poole has been doing lately um and of course that shows he's getting more hate than ever like more hit pieces and whatever and yeah it is what it is those people work for him whether they realize it or not all they do is make more people aware of it it's cyclical right it's like and it's something i've been aware of everything that i've done in the past few years is like so i do something and
then a bunch of people get mad about it and so they post about it yeah because people want to post about [ __ ] they hate more than what they love and it's like okay so let's say there's a tweet bashing me with i don't know let's say 10 000 likes so maybe those 10 000 people are agreeing with that and then but how many people are viewing it with impressions and then even if it's like a thousand people that are like actually she seems cool that's a thousand new people coming my way you do work for me if you're bashing me the best thing you could ever do to someone you hate online if you hate me well maybe not let me not tell them to do that but just don't [ __ ] talk about me [ __ ] it's people don't understand that's like you're most the time you're wasting your time and also if your business is just to bash a person like you are you're connecting yourself as a subservient you're you're connecting yourself as inferior to this person whether you realize it or not if you're constantly criticizing them they don't even respond about you you're their [ __ ] i love not responding yeah i love it like every day i'm getting a new wave of dms like did you see what such and such said about you and i'm like nope and i really couldn't give a [ __ ] i really couldn't care good for you it's a good attitude yeah but i had to get there yeah it took me some time and it took me in the beginning like i would read everything yeah and i would take everything in and i would also start to believe the nice comments that i also think is toxic and it's all made a video about me i'm watching every minute of it i'm internalizing i'm figuring out what i did wrong if i did anything wrong and a way to retaliate and that used to be me and now i'm like i don't give a [ __ ] the people that do that all day and go back and forth and make response videos and attack videos they're all mentally [ __ ] 100 yeah they're all living in this weird world of emotions and anxiety and like you're the real world is the people that you actually know yeah is like life going
out there and go go to dinner somewhere have fun i do exercise i did a dr phil episode i filmed it in august blair tell me what it's like yeah yeah very that tell me about your love his wife was lovely though he's great he's great i love him he's done it he's really good friends with his son oh really yeah we're tight that's awesome yeah we go on like vacations with our families together cool yeah he he made me cry on stage he the whole episode was about my dad's part of the family which had just only for being trans and so he was trying to like reunite [ __ ] and he just said some really nice stuff that made me cry um he's a sweet guy he is he really is a guy he really is i know him off like what i did a podcast with him but i know him off the podcast he's [ __ ] great he's great his wife's great his family's great they're like they're really sweet people like genuine sweet not not putting on a show his wife's name is we don't have to say his wife's name blow her spot up she's on the show all the time though oh yeah but regardless his wife is very lovely and i was walking off stage i was still kind of like emotional and she just grabbed my hand and she was like you're gonna be okay i was like oh my god but but what i was saying was i did the dr phil episode and there was like this youtuber i didn't watch the video but i saw like a thumbnail come up and recommended it was like blair white's doing the dr phil show and i'm terrified and it was like a [ __ ] hour long video however long was i remember about how it was so bad probably that doctor phil's gonna do plot for me i'm sure that's what it was i was like how are you so concerned how are you so concerned they might not even be they might just be using your name to get clicked well 100 but well then why are you such a fake ass [ __ ] that you're faking that you're concerned because that's all they got exactly there you go exactly so i've learned to ignore it i've learned to ignore it good for you yeah good for you well listen blair this was a fun conversation we just talked for three [ __ ] hours really yeah felt like one i know just flew by i was a little worried about that
because i saw how long all your episodes were i was like i don't think i've done it like a two and a half or three hour one no you did now i did now you did i appreciate it it was fun i enjoyed it i enjoyed it um tell everybody where they can see you where they could find you on social media where they can make a hate video about you right so um you can reach me on youtube youtube.comwhitex there's an e at the end of blair don't forget that twitter instagram just look up my name um i don't know you want to send me a carrier pigeon a smoke signal you'll find me just google me all right well thank you very much i appreciate you thank you bye everybody bye [Music] [Applause] you