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[Music] did you i told you about the mountain lion that colton and i saw in utah no but i you didn't but i heard no i heard you talking to ranella yeah yeah yeah dude yeah it was giant you said it was huge and you were in the truck oh my god i was scared in the truck it was like a giant pumpkin head it was huge it was a 170 plus pound cat like big big cat i've never seen one there but they're there i've only seen a little one like a 60 70 pound one running across the street in santa barbara and then one in colorado i saw in the woods like a glimpse quick glimpse might even been a bobcat honestly the one in in the colorado was so quick the one in santa barbara was definitely a mountain lion because of the tail yeah but this one was unmistakable this was 30 yards away underneath the tree in like at 7 p.m light so it was like just starting to get dark but it was i was looking at him through the binos that was this year yep yeah i was like oh my god we were both freaking out he was so big he just crouched down there oh his head was so huge it was a big tom man giant paws his forearms freaked me out the forearms were like my legs man like big thick-ass forearms you gotta kill [ __ ] yeah oh god meeting one of those [ __ ] things in the woods would be terrifying it after doing that it makes me want to carry a gun really yeah yeah like because if you're in a situation like that have you seen that video where that guy had to shoot that cat yeah i did yeah that was intense that's intense i know but he's like no get out of here get out of here and the things are looking at him like i think i'm gonna eat you and if he didn't have a gun what the [ __ ] i mean i don't know if he was bow hunting or what kind of hunting that guy was doing not sure i thought i saw that clip though he didn't feel comfortable enough to draw his bow if he did have a bow you know shaking and [ __ ] holding it full draw those things are so strong i mean
all animals even bear yeah you look at bear forearms oh they're massive yeah well i remember that video this one video of you and alberta with uh that one bear that you shot and as it runs like after arrow hits it it runs like whoa yeah i did not know they could run that fast that was seven yards and it closed that distance in a second maybe it was crazy it was intense you don't you think cause normally they're kind of lumbering you know they're like they're kind of slow con i guess they're conserving energy yeah because when they want to go and they can explode they can explode it's it's weird to watch it's like because you don't think something that big can move that fast no no they're they're amazing but those those wild animals who you know especially cats i mean they got to be predators so they got a kill with their face you know as as you've talked about but bear too you know i mean incredible it's a wild world out there mister it is it is really is so you're just back from colorado yeah you've had a wild season man yeah it's been this your best season ever for bow hunting i don't know you got plenty of meat tell you that yeah giving a lot out to friends huh yeah no i um it's it's pretty cool because i take like uh i have these two coolers at work in the lunchroom and i just take meat in there and fill up those coolers and say you know free meat and people love it there because there's a lot of people who don't hunt you know have no interest in hunting but they love eating elk and different things i always ask where it's from um sausage uh yeah hamburger you know anybody can use hamburger for tacos spaghetti so yeah it goes quick and i love giving it out yeah hamburger and spaghetti sauce the ground elk in spaghetti sauce amazing so good yeah i had some salami made out of uh the stuff that i got in utah for the first time oh it's out there right now and we have the commercial freezers at the studio yeah i haven't had any of it yet oh it's so good yeah yeah i did uh oh pepperoni sticks yeah pepperoni
sticks off my oregon bowl and oh my god the best pepperoni steaks you know normally at the gas station you'll buy pepperoni sticks and it's just they still taste good and they're just [ __ ] meat who knows probably off the floor but so you put elk meat or pepperoni made out of elk meat oh god that sensation it's amazing it's the best food in the world man yep so what what's been happening with you other than uh hunting you got any wild races you're about to do no uh are you laying off those for a while no no just hunting you know i mean it's that's all my you know it's i don't know i think what i like or my whole thing is and you know this well but i train for one reason for bow hunting and it's like i feel i feel so lucky to have that purpose because i even i there's all sorts of advantages to working out and being in shape and being capable and healthy and everything else but when you have a purpose like like i have a purpose and and peop other people have different purposes but if i see people in the gym like guys in the gym they're just training not i i feel not bad or i don't know how i feel but because if the goal is just to be big or it just is not the same as having a purpose right you know what i mean so i'm training for one thing and so that right now i'm in this is prime this is my super bowl you know right right this is big season all season this is what it's for so yeah i'm just hunting right now yeah for a lot of fighters they have a hard time training after they're done competing right a lot of them get fat yeah because they're done and so they don't have any reason to to train hard they lost their purpose yeah yeah but some of them just figure out a new way to follow like george st pierre is in as good a shape as he's ever been in yeah because he's essentially like a lifelong martial artist and so his purpose is always to better himself it's always to be better than he was before so like when george took all those years off and then came back and fought michael bisping
everybody was like is he going to be rusty well turns out he's even better than he was before which is crazy that's what he had said but people always say that i am better than i was before but he actually was better yeah he actually was yeah well he looked good against bisbee he looked amazing against bisping so we're headed to the fight this weekend oh my god i can't wait it's fool what a card that is jamie pull up that card because this uh ufc card this weekend is bananas there's uh rose nama eunice versus zhong wei lee the rematch which is going to be crazy yeah because rose head kicked her early in the first round and ko during their first fight and uh that lady has the weight of chyna on her back like look at this [ __ ] card like pull up the whole card so he could see it because it's crazy uh frankie edgar versus marlon vera that's a big fight shane burgos versus willie uh billy quarantilo yeah quarantio i want to have you say it quarantino i don't know i like him though yes tough dude that's a great fight shane burgos is a bad [ __ ] yeah and justin gaichy versus michael chandler holy [ __ ] yeah and i think that fight opens up the main card yeah that's the main card first fight which is nuts and then the pre alex pereira cowboy pereira versus uh andreas micheletus nicholitis bicolitis al iaquinta versus bobby green that's a crazy fight chris curtis versus phillip hawse uh edmund shabazzian i don't know this dude listen to that name try say that try help me out you join me yeah say that one i have no idea i can't do that i haven't done my research yet i'll do my research tonight yeah i don't know uh how you say jamie i got a sword and a sword the sword the sardine in my vault imma off and then uh ian gary jordan williams is that the end is that all the prelims or is there uh early prelims really prim jean valente oh scroll all the way up chris barnett dustin jacoby he's a bad [ __ ] he came from he was in the ufc for a while then he went over to glory
um and he had quite a few kickboxing fights i don't know these guys they're good it's they're if you're going to be on this madison square garden card it's a wild card yeah they always stack that they stack two big cards there well three big cards every year one of them is this madison square garden fight another one is always the july card like the one that's around uh july 4th the fight what do they call that the the fans week or whatever yeah yeah the fan expo the ufc fan expo and then depending upon when they have the card in december sometimes they have a big new year's card as well so my my picks are chandler chandler over gauging interesting rose that's a good fight colby well you're friends with colby yeah uh who is the other one on the main card um let's see it again well the the first one is chandler versus uh gaiji and then you got frankie edgar versus marlon chito right so i'm gonna go chandler billy marlon rose colby that main event is a tough fight it was a tough fight to call yeah because usman has looked even better since beating colby you got to realize he beat jorge mozvidal twice and gilbert burns straight judas yeah twice he beat him once by decision and then [ __ ] flatlined him into this last fight yeah but colby would say he's got 20 losses street judas yeah well are you speaking for colby and then colby just ran right through tyron woodley that was a big fight for him yeah so that's uh that's i think he's the the hardest challenge for usman because he's got the longest gas tank his gas tank is crazy kobe has excellent wrestling and his his striking volume is insane like both of these guys one of the things they both have is they never fade both these guys never
fade i was impressed with usm in the last last time against colby i've been impressed with him every [ __ ] fight of his career but i figured i figured colby would put the pressure on and he he'd get more gas but no man he doesn't use he's right there he's got amazing endurance his his mind is bulletproof that dude is uh has serious knee problems and you never hear a thing about it like he can't run his knees are destroyed he actually had um they do this particular type he talked about it on the podcast there's a particular type of procedure they do where they uh fracture the microblade yeah micro fracture yeah they do it in the cartilage to try to make the cartilage regrow and it didn't work it had the opposite effect it [ __ ] his knees up worse i saw him come the i was watching the embedded like everybody does and i saw him coming down the stairs of a plane and like he looked like coming back gingerly yeah like pain hurts yeah yeah it looked like me coming downstairs in the morning yeah but the thing is when he fights he ignores it yeah he ignores all that [ __ ] and he openly said he said listen i know i'm going to get my knees replaced when i'm done fighting here you go so for now i just go hard i think he's like now he i saw him talking about fighting canelo that's interesting that's okay that was today i get that he would want to do that for the money but if an mma fighter wants to fight canelo really they should say come over to mma [ __ ] yeah you know that's really straight boxing against canelo it's tough yeah well canelo is fighting at the same night yeah he's fighting caleb plant which is one of the more interesting fights that's available for canelo other than the triple g rematch the rubber match with triple g i think uh this caleb plant character is slick he's he's a very challenger he's got a chance yeah i mean uh for sure canelo's the favorite because if you look at his resume canelo has a much better resume in terms of like the guys he's beaten that's where it matters right because kayla plant is super skillful
and he's uh a legit world champion but he has not faced the level of opposition that canelo has faced right doesn't mean he can't win but you know billy joe saunders also looked like a world beater before he fought canelo right and then canelo crushed his face yeah i mean he probably probably retired him hmm you ever see the pictures of billy joe saunders face no they oh my god when they talk about they showed an image of his skull or a skull and all the areas that were repaired on his face and there's just plate here here yeah after the fight his orbital was shattered his cheekbones were shattered i think uh the way the cheekbone connects to the upper jaw was cracked one pot look at that look at that look at all that [ __ ] not crazy so the orbital see that stuff in the back of his eye yeah the bone that's like the shelf that holds the eyeball in got crushed so they have to go in and they put all these plates underneath where the eyeball sits and then on the outside on the upper left side of the eyeball that's cracked the lower side's cracked and then look how the cheekbones cracked all the way down to the upper jaw and then the upper jaw on the where the hinge is is cracked i mean his whole face got [ __ ] caved in god and that's with those big boxing gloves crazy how amazing is that that's power it was also perfect timing yeah because canelo has ridiculous power but his his timing was perp he caught billy joe leaning down and he upper cutted him as he was leaning down so it's the force of the lean down along with the force of the uppercut and his face just exploded did that end the fight yeah that ended the fight yeah they stopped it in between rounds he knew something was severely wrong with his face yeah his goal was in tatters yeah god yeah it's crazy [ __ ] sport man and canelo the thing about canelo is so interesting to me is that canelo's a big puncher but he's also really skillful defensively that's usually not the case usually those big punchers they kind of wade in
and they throw bombs and they're they're so they're concentrating so hard on connecting with a big shot that they don't have like the sort of defensive skills that like a floyd mayweather has right who's the best defensive fighter ever in my opinion yeah but when he fought floyd i think he had such a hard time hitting floyd that he realized like oh i got to develop these kind of skills then if you see canelo like when he fought danny jacobs and he's fought in the second fight with triple g too like he developed these kind of defensive skills that he never had before and they keep getting better so now he's like one of the best defensive fighters in the world and also one of the best offensive fighters in the world it's amazing yeah the reason why i brought that up is because camaro is definitely talking about he just wants a big money fights now yeah so i get that well he's probably like a year away from a knee replacement yeah right if you watched him walk downstairs like that he's i know michael bisping had both his knees replaced once he retired yeah i mean same [ __ ] and his eye well his eye is not replaced but it's fake yeah he has a well he has like a contact that he puts in that makes it look yeah it looks good yeah but i've seen him him pop it out too it's carnival i mean yeah so i mean my point was if camaro starts i was wondering if he's thinking about like the money so you you know that what's a saying is the wolf climbing the hill is always hungrier than the wolf on top of the hill something like that so i mean you know colby's still trying to get up there camaro's been up there do you lose that hunger a little bit i don't think so i don't think so not with that guy i think at the championship level like the true champions and i think camaro is like a champion of champions i think i think he's in this all-time great category like like let's imagine this fight is not taking place right now and you're not comparing him with colby you just look at what he's done so far and his skill level i think he got a real argument that he is right now the best
pound-for-pound fighter in the sport if you look at what his accomplishments are one loss ever in his entire mixed martial arts career has run through everyone in his division including winning the title over a dominant tyron woodley five-round route just destroyed him his beat beat him pillar to post every round and then you look at his fights with um mazvidal you look at his fight with colby look at this fight with gilbert burns gilbert is a dangerous man and he put him away and gilbert heard him he hurt him in the first round camaro recovered and smashed him knocked out uh masvidal with one punch in this in the second fight he's a real argument that he's the best guy in the sport yeah but if you wanted to see him challenged you would want a guy who's got killer wrestling that's colby amazing gas tank that's colby unstoppable mentality that's colby and a guy who's been in there with him and knows what adjustments to make right you know i think you know when masvidal took that first fight he took the first fight on short notice yeah and six days he had some good moments in the fight but ultimately he fell prey to usman's conditioning you know and and uzumah had said the reason why he was willing to fight me then was because he had a built-in excuse yeah i saw him which is interesting because that would [ __ ] with a man's head yeah you call him a journeyman and you know that [ __ ] with a guy's head like the difference in the accomplishments of the two are very different like mozvidal obviously has that giant ben askren knockout and he beat up nate diaz in that fight and hospital is a bad [ __ ] and a very clever fighter he's one of my favorite guys to watch fight because he's so intelligent but uzman just demolished him demolished him that's what separates like very good fighters from all-time greats and he had a full camp that time yeah maz vidal did didn't help now he's actually helped him less like he was better but i think usman's better than he was before i think he's he continues to get better and he's training with trevor whitman like he he moved camps you know he used to be down in south florida and then he made his way yeah he
was it was originally the blackzilians and stamford's but he's now with trevor whitman who's a like a real striking genius you know trevor whitman is a brilliant guy yeah i was i've always loved what he's done i mean because with gait she and with rose yeah like man he's got three fighters in the main card that's pretty crazy that shows you how good trevor whitman is yeah he also makes the best gloves in the business yeah his gloves are [ __ ] fantastic yeah you've been lobbying for this oh my god they're so good well not just his glo his boxing gloves i i use his gloves to hit the bag he makes the best shin pads he makes the best equipment like it's crazy that you got a coach who is also designing equipment and he was explaining to me that the foam that they use the foam that most people use is not just the best foam it's like the best cost effective phone so he uses like the best top of the food chain space age technology foam and like you really feel the difference when you like hit things with his gloves like it's better protection for your hands no yeah i know i've i've seen i've watched some stuff on him and uh i'm a fan he's a wizard i'm a fun guy too and they have a good he has a good relationship a good rapport with his uh the students you know which is so important because he's a good guy to get along with you know he's a fun guy and so like watching him coach these people and seeing like three top flight fighters on the same card it's incredible i'm i'm pretty intrigued too with the coaching changes for oozman and colby they both changed camps yeah so what happened with colby you're friends with kobe he what was uh what led him to switch camps because he was with att forever it seemed like i mean i don't know it seemed like there's a bunch of drama down there you know because i think poirier's down there and and uh i don't know it seems like he's he said that or for what i'm seeing on interviews um you know there's drama going in to train and he just wanted to get away from that do
you want to deal with it yeah and it's a that's a big organization down there basically it's a lot of fighters and so then he switched to this i think it's mma masters and you know small gym they give him the full attention so yeah i don't know well he brings the drama he shouldn't be shocked i mean who the [ __ ] causes more drama than colby i know yeah still good stuff that's how he's so popular it's it's both things right which is rare like he has incredible skill level he's as tough as they come and he talks a lot of [ __ ] yeah yeah that's good and most people don't know that he got forced into talking [ __ ] like the ufc was about to cut him they didn't like his style they told him and so then he fought damien mai in brazil and then called him a bunch of filthy animals and you know and said a bunch of crazy [ __ ] this is a dump yeah yeah they went crazy they took exception to that he went pro wrestling heel yeah and it changed it worked it changed the trajectory of his career what people don't know about colby what you know about colby is when you're with him in person super nice guy oh he's actually soft-spoken he's a great guy he's he's had dinner at the house we had elk and uh just polite soft-spoken my wife and daughter everybody's there just being as nice as can be he's a gentleman that's that's who he is that's the real guy yeah for sure this other thing is like a character that he does which is so fascinating it works i mean i watched the interview him and dc just did just a couple days ago and uh and i mean dc gave him every opportunity he's like do you ever get tired do you ever sit at home and say what you know could could give it a rest and just be and he's just like no he's like i'm always he's something like he's always on and he's like you know dc said do you respect usman you know i'm like as a fighter he's like no so he wouldn't even i mean he's sticking to the script yeah well he's got that pro wrestling heel character down and if he ever decides to leave the ufc and go to pro wrestling he would have a giant career in pro
wrestling if he wanted to probably oh my god if he if he decided if he fight you know let's say you know whatever happens with his career but like five years from now if he decides to go to pro wrestling my god will that guy have a [ __ ] career over there yeah he's talked so much [ __ ] oh i know it's good i can't wait yeah it's gonna be an amazing fight there's something about fights in madison square garden too because that place is the most iconic arena on earth yeah you know it really is there's no place like it that's we were there in 2016 right isn't that when conor won a second belt yep yep when he fought eddie alvarez yeah yeah he came in the champ champ and he got mad he goes where the [ __ ] the other belt where the [ __ ] is my belt yeah and we were uh we were down there for the trump um we were there right after trump got elected and uh cam and i went to the gym and we were leaving the gym and as we were leaving the gym apparently a [ __ ] protest had broken out and we're like oh jesus we gotta walk through this and so we had to walk through this protest and uh i'll never forget like these virtue signaling people screaming and chanting yeah yeah it was uh it was entertaining we were we're joking like this is i'm sure this is really making a difference it made no difference yeah it's just the the that people love to hate things i mean it really goes back to like the colby thing right people love to hate things and there's also people that love to hate the people that hate and so that made them more into trump than ever before the thing about trump is like more people hate him than any president i think ever except for biden i think right now biden's coming close he's pulling in strong there'll be different reasons though yeah they more feel bad because he shits his pants and stuff allegedly oh god allegedly that's what i heard but i mean he's clearly got dementia there's i mean i'm going on a limb people like who the [ __ ] are you a
doctor no listen to him speak yeah there's a train wreck every time something really wrong and it's sad and it's not fair it's not fair to him it's not fair to the country it's wrong and it's it's causing people to lose faith in the democratic party like for sure the the the democrat party is in real trouble with that guy at the helm it's not it's not right but they hated trump yeah so much they would take that over trump yeah originally they did i don't think they thought it was gonna be this bad though they tried to pretend it wasn't and they got mad at me because when i said that i'm not a trump supporter i said but i would vote for trump before i'd vote for biden people like oh joe rogan's a trumper he's a trump brother that's not what i said what i said is i would vote for trump before i'd vote for biden because biden is in a process of obvious decay and if you [ __ ] people can't see that i don't know what to tell you you're all a bunch of partisan weirdos who won't look at things for what they really are because if you say it then people get mad at you i'm not worried about saying things that people are going to get mad at right so i'm just going to tell you what's going on that guy's dying yeah he's a fading candle and you [ __ ] idiots are counting on him to illuminate the way and it's not going to work god it's not going to work i mean he's representing us like where was he justin uh where was that yeah the climate summit yeah yeah and he fell asleep he's falling asleep i mean so you're like wait i thought this was important the most important challenge we're facing is as a world and it's so important you're falling asleep as you're as they're speaking about it it's like what is going on it's not good and then an aide had to come over and wake him up you see that somebody noticed somebody's [ __ ] the guy runs oh you never seen it watch the guy comes running over to him and just like mr biden mr mine anyway no but it it's every time he's featured on something it's a train wreck by the way i would fall asleep at that [ __ ] too yeah like what do you what are they doing why does everybody have to meet in person to talk about climate change like
what is the whole purpose of that meanwhile russia and china was like you go ahead i get him here out [ __ ] cold that would be me too right next to him i'll be snoring yeah what about the the lady right in front she's asleep too yup she's she's not now too see the guy asking what happened i've got my pen let me hold my pen like huh what happened i fell asleep i just shut my pants like what okay okay he's like pay attention i got time to clap clap he has no idea what he's clapping about he's rubbing his eyes i mean it's not fair the guy's 78 years old and he's also had major brain surgery he's had aneurysms like serious aneurysms that would have killed a lot of people he had a widow maker it was like one of those things where most of the people that have it don't survive they have to take the top of your skull off and then operate and then sew that [ __ ] back on what but i i wouldn't i mean whatever but he's our president yeah it's it's not horrible well it just shows you what's really going on i mean you need to know it's it's in one way it's transparent because we've all wondered like how much state does the president actually have like what is how many people are really pulling the strings behind the scenes well now you get to see like there's it's clear yeah there's no way this guy is on the ball in charge of everything no but so i thought you were going to say like how much sway does a president have it seems like quite a bit because you see the way the direct the direction of the democratic party's going it's like i think that's the cabinet i think that's all the people around him it's kamala harris it's all the other people it's nancy pelosi well i know but he's got a big part of that you know yeah but it seems like it's just a free fall right now it's not good they can't get their their infrastructure or what was the big trillion dollar build back better bill yeah yeah they can't that shit's all bait and switch like here's the thing
they did with that they were like we're gonna make sure that people have paid leave paid paternity leave and they like let you know we're gonna put this in there we're gonna put all this and then free [ __ ] for everybody but then it all goes away by the time the bill gets signed all that stuff's gone yeah but they can't get anything through right they can't get anything through i don't think they wanted to get that through i don't i think with a lot of those things they propose them so that all the progressive feels feel really good and then once they get it into place then the big corporate but you know machine behind like hey face you're not causing any of that right right no no no no no this is nonsense you see how big the bill is it's like it's like there's no way anyone's reading it no one of the republicans the republican senator held it up and he was like saying like do you think joe biden's read this oh my do you do you think nancy pelosi has read this they're not they haven't read this don't you i mean politics it's just exhausting it's gross yeah it's the grossest thing in the world other than murder and rape is the grossest thing in the world right other than like yeah other than those things and war it's the grossest thing in the world yeah i don't know i just it's it's so corrupt and so dirty and and i don't even know because i saw this headline today about because of all that that happened in virginia and all the the results there recently and they're saying you know the democrats are uh i don't know panicking or something like that based on those results yeah it's like they're panicking because they're they the thought of losing power and to me that seemed i mean do we care about the country right exactly we're not thinking about it or do we just care about power right we're thinking about parties winning yeah we're not thinking about the country so it's like why why is that bad if it's good for the country it seems like okay well hey we can get better we can do this we can do that you know we lost for this reason this we need to step up here it's like no that's not it they're panicking
because they're going to lose power and it's just i was thinking to myself god what a mess it's a mess it's a mess and there's there's a giant division in this country where people feel like the country's lost if their side doesn't win and if their side wins then they feel like they've got to hold on to this to fight off those other people on the other side because those people are bad yeah here's what freaked me out and it didn't seem to bother a lot of people the bidens administration the biden administration blocked the release of the jfk papers yeah jfk was shot in 1963. how weird is that they're like no people are still alive some people that would be [ __ ] or still alive would that tells me the government killed there's some shady [ __ ] going on that's what that tells me yeah that doesn't tell me that the the mafia killed kennedy or the russians killed kenny or the cubans killed kennedy that tells me the government probably had that [ __ ] watching something yeah they're hiding something yeah it's 1963. that [ __ ] happened four years before i was born it's 58 [ __ ] years ago yeah and still got to still hide it not yet not yet not yet hold it yeah wait another 25 years unbelievable it's crazy that they could even justify that that someone could keep historical information that's relevant to our understanding of how the country really functioned in 1963 they keep that from us because it must be relevant to how the country still functions today it must it must have some bearing president being killed yeah and we can't know all there is to know about it right what do you know you [ __ ] yeah i don't even i want to know that more than i want to know about ufos i wonder what did you [ __ ] do yeah what the [ __ ] did you do alan spector i don't know who that is arlen specter um he was one of the people that were both of them [ __ ] both of them he was one of the guys that was on the warren commission report i think it was his idea for the uh i believe see if this is right i think he's the guy who came up with the idea for the
single bullet theory which is the dumbest [ __ ] theory in the like your guys shot a lot of rifles when bullets hit bones they get [ __ ] up oh yeah that bullet was pristine and they found it in the gurney oh look magic on connelly governor texas connolly's gurney they found this uh magic bullet that they think did all the damage to kennedy and to him went through two people broke bones and it was not mushroomed out or anything no not even a little you never seen it i haven't oh you're in for a treat generally credited to him that's what it says what's that yeah generally credited to him is what this says i was trying to find carl inspector yeah arlen specter's the guy he was a creep during the bush administration i remember like listening to him talk on tv and then when i found out that he was a part of the warren commission that actually came up with the single bullet there i was like oh so look at that bullet that's it exactly like as a hunter yeah as a guy who's shot bullets when you look at that you're like there is no [ __ ] way and i've had arguments people say actually that's a that's not a good photo if you look at it from another angle you know you could see that it has some distortion i'm like shut the [ __ ] up every bullet i've ever seen that's been in an animal is mushrooms that's how they perform they mushroom out they and there's a there's a fine line between basically coming apart where the the damage would be dissipated or and then mushroom perfect none of them look like this though zero yeah there's other photos of it where it shows that it's slightly distorted yeah that's not even right but the re like there there's a good there's somebody actually tried to say that to me no no you should look at it from this angle i'm like i'm like [ __ ] you don't know anything about guns you need to shut your [ __ ] mouth because that's something that was shot into a swimming pool that's what happened there yeah see that's what that that was looks like well look at that they're even that wasn't more one of the bullets so that must be one of the bullet but that's possible yeah that's possible but yeah like modern but other thing we have
to think of is maybe modern technology the bullets that we have is better than the bullets they had back then but either way there's no [ __ ] way here goes every bullet shows signs of damage uh exerting force breaking bones damage to the initial shooting except the magic bullet yeah there's no [ __ ] way and they had to come up here's the thing about the this is the thing about the theory like by the way i have lost months of my life studying the jfk assassination yeah i really have i've spent so much time reading books on the jf jfk assassination but one of the reasons why they had to come up with this theory that this one bullet did so much damage is they had to account for three gunshots and once they found out that a bullet had hit an underpass and it had chipped the kerbstone and ricocheted up and hit this guy so the guy had to be treated at the hospital for a ricochet from the gunshot so they knew that that that was one bullet that did not hit kennedy it hit the curb stuff so there's two yeah and so one bullet blows a hole through kennedy's head and so they had to come up with another bullet that went through his they went through his back and went into connelly through his wrist and i believe it wound up in his thigh yeah this is how they they think the bullet went which is just and people say no no you have to take into account that kennedy was in an elevated position listen bullets do wacky things when they go into animals and i i was talking to a guy once that told me in the war that they shot a guy in the head and the bullet came out of his eye going forward like it ricocheted off the back of his skull and can't yeah he goes bullets do wild things when they hit bones and ricochet off stuff but they don't take turns no they don't take turns like that there's a reason why the bullet would ricochet inside inside someone's head and then come out yeah like the initial impact is slightly slowed down it bounces off the back of the skull and then comes out like it probably clip the eyebrow or something coming in but either way they don't come out looking like that no not after they did
all that [ __ ] and there was more damage there's more rather fragments inside connolly's body more bullet fragments they found in colony connolly's wrist that were missing from the bullet they just should have immediately discounted that bullet and said who gave you this bullet who the [ __ ] are you yeah where's this bullet come from for real you're under arrest yeah you're under arrest because i want to know where you got this [ __ ] bullet and like you're you're going to start talking why can't we see that information yeah that's in there yeah well also the hole in kennedy's neck and uh in dallas it was uh it was called an exit wound they called it or an entrance was it was a bullet hole but then in bethesda maryland they said it was a tracheotomy hole his [ __ ] head was missing why are they doing a trach on them why would they do that [ __ ] [ __ ] yeah and then we didn't really know anything until they saw this a pruder film this is a pruder film which came out we talked about this yesterday came out in 73 right now 75 75. so it was 12 years after the assassination that geraldo rivera and dick gregory played this a pruder film on television that was the first time anybody had ever seen it outside of those folks you know what they need to do they need to put you in charge of the investigation i'll be dead in a week listen it's amazing to keep me alive just talking [ __ ] on this podcast i know i'm just i'm surprised fauci hasn't knocked you off yet that guy's got to worry about his own life the nih is going to take him out rand paul was grilling him today today grilling him but you could see him panicking and trying to say under the definitions of what is gain of function and rand paul was just grilling him the nih themselves has said that you're lying and you can see finally he's nervous yeah fine because he's been arrogant and smug yeah because he felt like he was making documentaries yeah well now he doesn't feel like that anymore like today was the first time he looked feeble and nervous good like well while rand paul because he realizes the walls are coming in they're closing in that [ __ ] is probably responsible for
millions of people being dead god or at least responsible for the kind of research that could have led to that leak and if that's where it came from yeah that's responsible for millions of people being dead yeah and meanwhile he's pretending he lied he lied and said that they didn't they didn't fund it they did and rand paul's been [ __ ] on his ass the entire time for months this whole time he's been on him and with all due respect senator you do not know what you are talking about yeah but he did know yeah he did know and now fauci knows the world knows once the nia stepped out when the nih rather stepped out and they said no this is gain of function research this is you funded gain and function research then fauci's like his [ __ ] heart's beating 150 beats a minute yeah did you watch did you watch his documentary 15 times i i can't i don't know who would watch it but he he had one right it's the most ratio documentary that's ever been seen on rotten tomatoes i think what is that if you look at like what the critics say versus what the people say yeah it's like the people say like it's like two percent of the people liked it oh so it's opposite of chappelle's exactly opposite yeah yeah exactly okay [ __ ] media today it's so gross there's so much fake people fake corporate controlled puppets brought to you by pfizer oh yeah i know i've talked to so many people about that little clip it's an it's an i mean good good morning yeah i know it should be illegal if you're talking about those things who you should not be sponsored by those things russell brand actually had a good i watched a little clip he put together on that yeah that was uh on point russell brand is one of the best journalists in america it's crazy is he in america uh he is when he gets to my [ __ ] phone i should say the world you know he lives in the uk yeah i know i mean he he breaks it down he does and he'll talk about like he he talked about how they were talking about you and so they would they would introduce you as controversial
you know i guess i am and he's like he goes how about respected or or whatever i mean but they use the word controversial to get that to dismiss me yeah to get the tone started going down that path it used to work all their tactics that they're saying like dismissing people calling them of this or that used to work the problem with doing that with me is millions of people listen to the show they know me yeah i can't hide right if i've been i've been doing this for so long right there's so many hours of footage the people that listen know me so when you try to pretend i'm something i'm not they're like what the [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here yeah wow we're in a weird time in this country man because there's so much censorship and these corporate entities that control these tech companies right these tech companies control a giant part of the discussion in this country because if you try to say certain things on youtube you will get censored they will remove your video they will take it down they will demonetize you they will remove you they will first of all they will try to disincentivize you they would try to make it so that you will not make money if you talk about alternative methods of treating covid they will [ __ ] take even if you're a doctor yeah even if you're an epidemiologist you're a scientist deep flat d platform doctors yes they don't give up they've removed senate testimony by doctors telling the the telling congressmen telling important people in government how medications work how diseases work they remove them they're like we know better we run youtube and unbelievable and it's scary and the same thing with facebook and these other social media platforms there's so much power now and then when you realize that these these people are all in cahoots yeah they're all in cahoots with the democratic party they all get their [ __ ] talking points and what's what's legal and not legal to talk about and then it goes to mainstream media to cnn but what they don't understand is by doing this they're just making people understand that the hustle is real yeah that the
the fix is in yeah that is all goddamn con game well when they see that now and they say you know abc news brought to you by pfizer now people are going wait a second exactly this is why you'll never hear a negative word about the vaccine on abc news because they'd be like what the hell are you doing they're paying our bills right they're paying you and you could say a lot of good things about the vaccine here's the thing about the vaccine it's not it's not bad but we need to be accurate like you can't not tell people about the negative response that some people have you can't not tell people yeah about the adverse reactions just say hey here's what you're doing all of it you make the decision yeah it should be you should know all of it yeah they should report on the deaths they should report on all these soccer players that are having [ __ ] heart attacks yeah they should report on all these different things say what is going on but also show all these people that got covered and they were vaccinated and they survived and they're okay and maybe they wouldn't have show all these people that are older show all these people with compromised immune systems show your hands show everything show your hand and then the people make the decision don't force people into taking this [ __ ] that's where like in biden is still pushing that ma vaccine mandate from with employees or employers with over 100 people yeah you know and like now they have until january 4th and that that could be the way i quit my job because there's more than trying to get you to create more than 100 people at where i work and they've been the general manager there has been pretty good about it but it's like they they say you know if osha says this or it's a mandate it's like man it's tough yeah it's wild i never thought we'd be in a position where an experimental vaccine would be something that people are forced to take if they want to keep their job or travel or wrong restaurants or go to bars especially when you have natural immunity like there are people that have survived kovid look at those antibodies son i got fat antibodies oh so you've had oh
yeah no you had it of course i've had it so i got antibodies like my antibodies are better than people's antibodies if they get a vaccine yeah and i can't go places like we're going to be in new york city tomorrow i can't eat there we have to go to jersey god here's the thing cam when you go to jersey we're going to go to jersey tomorrow for dinner yeah when we go to jersey we're going to go to this nice steakhouse we went to the last time this is [ __ ] no masks yeah everybody's treating like that's going on how so they're all fine i'm in the airport and it's like these these flight attendants they're just like uh you know mask over your nose sir mask over you know if you have it here right below your nose no killing people dangerous very mask over your nose it's like are you kidding me yeah how how crazy is this well it also their cloth these paper masks they're nothing they're not protecting they're like there's all these gaps in them yeah have you ever seen when uh the doctor blows the vape through the the masks i showed it to sanjay gupta because he was talking about masks he brought up the fact that i sell masks on my website i forgot i saw him there was like something someone that works for me made these jre masks but that was because you have to wear masks everywhere like well that you know branded bills who makes my stuff they said hey do you want to do maths and i'm like no good for doing [ __ ] math i was a [ __ ] i probably made fifty dollars when i look like a piece of [ __ ] for it uh but this uh doctor made this video on he put it on youtube where he take you know those people that make those those crazy vapes like the box vape so they take a hit and it blows crazy oh yeah yeah yeah well this guy puts various masks on and blows through this mask with the vape so you can see and he's like by the way coming through yes and the vapor it's like the vape molecules are far larger than the molecules for covet so this idea that this this thing in front of your mouth is stopping covet particles from getting into the air i will say this i had i had
this mask the other day because it's like whatever for the airport and i had it on i could barely breathe i'm like what the [ __ ] is up with this mask so it was actually an n95 mask oh good one yeah so it's one that probably does something i guess if it's fitted right but that compared to like the normal like you just hey you got to have a mass you put this thing on right i mean those do i i mean i can't i can breathe just fine with those so they must not be doing anything well he even shows with the n95 mask it comes out the sides yeah i'm sure like it comes out it's just it's so ridiculous it might help a little i mean it might catch some stuff but this idea that it offers real protection like if you knew that you're going to wear one of those masks and walk into a plague house where everybody's dying of the play you wouldn't wear that [ __ ] cloth paper whatever the [ __ ] it is thing on your face it'll those will work if you were gonna cough and cough into somebody's mouth watch the let them show them what the the paper masks yeah so here's uh go for go all the way to the beginning watch this look at this is this the first one you're the first one do the first one because it's got the goofy one yeah go to that one because this is the most ridiculous look at that yeah bro it's coming out the size is coming out everywhere that's what i say you could cough a loogie and it would stop that that's watch this i mean this is nuts yeah it does keep it from coming out a little bit from the front yeah but it goes sideways so you just make the people sick they're sitting next to you like look at that one yeah it's nuts it's it comes out if you can breathe in that means that you can breathe out and the air comes out which means that i mean maybe it's stopping some of it maybe it's filtering some of it i would like to see like real data i mean i don't know how they would do that i mean i think they've done data in terms of like infection rates of people wearing mass or not wearing masks but
it's so hard because so many of these studies they're so biased like you can tell that they're saying things i don't really wanna come to a conclusion yeah i i believe you and russell brand don't believe me all the time i believe russell before i believe me okay i believe brett weinstein believe the people that are sticking the neck out that are risking their livelihood you know it's just this censorship is the scariest thing because people don't understand that by censoring people you're just making the other side seem like they have a point yeah even if they talk nonsense even if it's like queuing on [ __ ] they're nutty people you're still making it seem like they have a point did you know that there was a bunch of people that went to dallas yesterday because they thought that jfk was returning and then he's going to be trump's vp junior jfk junior yeah oh i thought it was jfk senior no oh remember they think that's part of the queue and they think that jfk jr is some guy and they thought he was at the capitol hill thing and they and that documentary they show the guy is so this is how dumb these [ __ ] are they went to uh dealey plaza be careful and talking about me no you're not you don't believe me how dare you they went there and they waited for jfk junior i guess to to appear and they're like any minute now he's coming any minute now so these videos these dorks they've been without queuing on for months now right it's ten months since january sixth yeah like what to do what to do oh i know like once they realized that that q and on stuff wasn't real like damn what do i do look at these dorks all waiting around dirt oh no look they got lawn chairs and [ __ ] isn't this where they'd have the undercover fbi guys too though yeah the fbi guy's like we need a riot we need to write oh they have cues cues that make america great again hats on oh god [ __ ] dummies yeah that's brutal well this is the problem though is like i saw a shirt trump and
jfk junior you see that let me see that right there oh my god these guys they get together and they all share three brain cells oh this is so silly that's but so on the opposite side of this is a liberal so they have just extreme liberals oh yeah i think that the squad is about probably the polar opposite of that is there's yeah there's and and the people that follow them like religiously and yeah cry when they see them it's like there's just groups of people that find a thing whatever that thing is whether it's queuing on or whether it's like uh marxism like whatever it is they they find a thing and then they find a bunch of other people that are willing to agree to that thing and then they get in an echo chamber and they they [ __ ] just yell at everybody else well that's their per like i said you know training is bow hunting is my purpose for training that's their purpose it's like that's what they've attached their whatever to their identity essentially and so that's just what it's all about they're like mind viruses like people catch a mind virus and then they hang on to it like q anon is like a mind virus it's weird how you people could be that gullible though you know what i mean it is but then you think about cults yeah they get you to chop your balls off yeah but it's happened for yeah forever since as long as humans have been around there's been people who i don't know it's just isn't that strange about our species it is what people like uncertainty scares a lot of folks yeah and they don't like it right that's why people like stay in the same place and they don't take any they don't do any adventures they don't try anything dangerous they just like stay in their lane and they rot away like that because they're just afraid of the risk and so because uncertainty makes people scared when they can find people that will assure them and reassure them yeah and provide them with a framework and they don't have to do any thinking they cling on to that and then they find a bunch of other people who agree with that and then they reinforce each other and then
they attack anybody right disagrees with that opinion because you're literally attacking their very existence yeah i guess so [ __ ] weak ass [ __ ] there's a lot of weak ass [ __ ] out there and i'm becoming less charitable as i've gotten older yeah i would have thought i'd been like i would have thought as i got older i would be like more more compassionate to some of these people but now i'm just like where's the [ __ ] wolves we need wolves in the streets taking these dummies out yeah i mean you just talked about how people they don't like the uncertainty they you know they like even if it's i mean i was i thought something weird for a second though but even like uh you know they say women who have been abused they stay in that relationship because maybe maybe that's because it's it's a known evil i guess you know what i mean so then i was thinking i saw this clip the other day and uh it was this guy says he says he asked people if they would take 10 million dollars if peop you know what could you do would what could you do with 10 million dollars you know when people say they could live you know a good life for a year 10 years or however long and he goes okay well what if i gave you 10 million dollars but then you wouldn't wake up tomorrow they said well no i wouldn't do that said so that means your life for a day is worth more than 10 million dollars otherwise you would take it and you know you wouldn't wake up tomorrow so if your life is worth more than 10 million dollars for a day of living why do you just wake up and just go through the motions why aren't you waking up and putting that value on and saying you need to make the most of it and you know appreciating every day you have if it's that valuable to you if you put it in those terms yeah and it's uh i just it's it's weird how people you know you when you put it like that it's an easy decision to make but when you just say well i'm just gonna wake up and go through the motions it's like are
you really maximizing the value of your life the gift of life yeah it's it's interesting how people like develop these patterns and one of the things that they do is like unless something radical happens to you where you feel like it's all going to be taken away you just can take it for granted like those near-death experiences are so profound for people because so many people have something happened like a cancer scare or maybe a car accident or some kind of a near-death experience where they walk out of it and then they realize like they could have lost everything yeah and then they changed yeah but you always had that you always had yeah this life that has endless possibilities why does it take a wake-up call right i think there's also a part of the there's a problem with most people's existences this is why i've been trying to get you to quit your job most people's existence is you're doing something all day that you don't want to do yeah and you have all this adventure that you do on top of that but a lot of people don't so their existence is this dull drone of doing things they don't want to do all the time and then when they get home they just watch tv and eat right and when they see people that are daring that take risks they attack them they hate on them and that's through the comfort of their own phone and through the keyboards they like to [ __ ] on people that make them feel uncomfortable and they'll talk [ __ ] about your ambitions and like what the [ __ ] is wrong with them why is he running every day why is he working out so much like the kind of stuff they do for you though i see it yeah i'll read your i don't read my comments but i read yours yeah but that's why they do it they do it because they feel they feel inadequate because they have not lived they're not living a maximized life but they could yeah that's the thing they could it's not easy and the the longer you get into that life the harder it is to get if you're 55 years old and you've been living this dull ass boring life your whole life and you've never taken any
chances yeah and your body looks like [ __ ] it's fat and doughy and you're tired all the time and you decide i want to be a beast today like boy you got a long road son yeah you know people do it i mean people i don't know if they turn into beasts quote unquote but they lose a hundred pounds hey man if a guy loses a hundred pounds he's a beast yeah that's a bad that's true herculean effort yeah i mean and i've i've we've talked about this before but even where i work now there's people who i worked with and they'd say well you keep that up you won't be running when you're 40 you won't be doing this you won't be doing that because your knee replacements you're going to break your body down you won't be able to walk and all this but what happens is and and we talked about this with goggins the other day but your body his is pretty extreme but your body does adapt to the load you put on it yes and and they say instead of it's not running breaks your body down running strengthens your body and runners actually have stronger joints yeah stronger knees stronger hips because they've been their body has adapted right yeah it's like everything else like tie fighters like if someone kicks you in the shin that hurts like hell right but tie fighters can kick [ __ ] trees why because their their their bodies adapted right it just hurts to adapt yeah and to be able to do things that are difficult you you have to harden your mind too that's the most impressive thing about people like you and goggins and these folks that do these endurance events it's like you gotta harden your mind yeah you're gonna run for three days yeah that's that's definitely the hardest part yeah but and they say you know i mean where the change happens it's like being consecutive days of training that's good but it's over years if you not very many people do it for years you know what i mean everybody goes they they get all fired up um energized to do something then that drops off they might do it for a week like folks who lose weight and then gain it back yeah i mean but if you can just continue to put in the work punch that time clock for year
your life i mean can change dramatically your body will change your everything will change your your how you look at things changes but it takes that consistent effort the consistency is so hard because there's a lot of comfort in those old patterns and even if the old pattern is just eating cake and watching tv like some people just fall back to them or drugs like some people you know they kick the pills and the life is doing good and then they they they you know get to a point where they made a lot of improvement and they'll slide right back into the pills again you're like why why you were doing so good why are you why are you doing drugs again i know it's almost like that pattern is better for their brain because it's they it's they know what happens when you do that versus the open-ended possibilities of just going for it yeah just trying to live a maximized life because if you do when you fail the pain of that it's difficult to deal with but that's how you learn and that's how you continue to go that's how you continue to move forward yeah some people just that the the unknown is so scary for people that's why people don't like to try new things they don't like to take chances they don't like to learn new stuff because it's like what if i fail what if i suck would it i don't like not knowing things i'm just gonna do what i know well that's i mean that's what i've always admired about you is like you've had so much success you know you say from podcasting to comedy but then you're willing to try something hard like bow hunting and people who bow hunt know how hard it is and for you to embrace that has just been a lot of people won't do that you know because it is so hard and it's like you can fail a lot and it hurts yeah but i like it i like i like new things man and bow hunting is [ __ ] hard yeah and that's why i like it i like i like it keeps me normal i think the more difficult things i do whether it's my workouts or martial arts or anything that i do they keep me normal
you know i don't think people should have an easy life i don't believe in easy i don't think it's good for you like if i just was like flying around on private jets and [ __ ] eating catered meals and doing nothing hard who am i what are you like what is the purpose of life like how's your brain work where's where's the challenge yeah where's the where's the thing that keeps you alive what so yeah that's i mean it's that hunger yeah so what people lose it we talked about fighters retiring then they lose that purpose but maybe it's hunger but so what keeps that because i feel just for me personally and i don't know why i'm trying to i'm thinking about her as we are discussing this but like when i first started hunting i would have a beat up toyota four-wheel drive not even four-wheeled a two-wheel drive piece of [ __ ] and i drive it hunting and but i feel like now i have that same drive to succeed as i did then but i i have i travel in in comfort to get to my house but i still hunt the same as i did so i'm trying to think because you you don't want to have because your your mindset is not you can look at it one way that like what like the hungry people are the people that don't have anything and so they're trying hard to get to that thing but what you're doing is you're trying hard as hard as you can to achieve excellence like your focus is on excellence if your focus is always on excellence it doesn't matter if you get there in a [ __ ] new raptor right or if you get there in a busted down old pickup truck that barely runs like your focus is the same like it's it's inconsequential whether or not you're struggling financially it doesn't matter because the struggle the physical struggle is always difficult it's always the same so your goal is so lofty like your goal being your best in the mountains doing one of the most difficult things i've ever done bow hunting bow hunting in the
mountains is one of the most f i've done a lot of wild [ __ ] i've fought i've done a lot of stand-up comedy i do live podcasts and live ufc broadcasts things that make people nervous bow hunting is one of the hardest [ __ ] things i've ever done and one of the best things and the thing is it's available to everybody yeah it's like not everybody gets to haunted deseret but you know and people get mad at that but that's you know go make some money [ __ ] but this is the thing why is it so hard it's it's hard because these [ __ ] animals have evolved for millions of years to avoid predators you have to play the wind you have to be fit enough to get to the top of the mountain you have to be able to execute a good shot under pressure you know and the feeling of making a good shot is beyond description like it's so hard for us to explain to someone what it's like to like center that pin on the vitals watch that arrow slam in there and know you did it and watch that animal briefly run off and then tip over and know you gave that thing the quickest death possible and the the reason why it has the quickest death possible is because you develop your skills you develop your accuracy and your ability to to execute under pressure and it's [ __ ] hard to do it's really hard to do yeah and you don't get a chance to do it again you get one shot there's one shot the animal's there right you line up the shot and you think about all those thousands and thousands of arrows you shot over the years and this is it this is the moment you get one of these it's like and also well i don't think about all those i mean because it's it's subconscious but here's i mean you know what my goal is to my goal is to be perfect but even after 33 years who knows how many arrows there's still that that crunch time decision making so i had a bull the bull in utah this year came up 10 yards away
he's quartering to me a little bit i got my 90 pound bow as we know and i'm thinking that that distance still i did not make the best decision because i thought you know what i can just pound right through that shoulder and i'll get his chest didn't happen he had a bone dead on hit hit the shoulder dead on it it broke his shoulder and that was debilitating to him but it wasn't through the lungs which is what you want for a quick death so even my decision making in that crunch time moment where you get one chance wasn't perfect i screwed up luckily he went out i got got another arrow into him and i did get him killed but still even after all this time all these you know i've killed a lot of bulls now man you the decision-making has to be perfect and it has to be done on the fly right in this brief moment this window in time bull's coming in just screaming yeah and you got to figure out what to do yeah and that's that's what i've always said you can master archery i mean people they shoot perfect 300s and people who don't know i've never even done it i don't even know anything about target but i know that they shoot um a certain amount of arrows and you can get a 300 score and if you hit right in the x that's the certain amount of x's so i think it's 60 arrows you can get 60 x's if you're perfect but anyway you can master that because people have done that before you can't master bow hunting no you cannot master but i don't care who you are i don't care how long you do it it's you and that animal and it's an imperfect i mean man's imperfect hunting's imperfect and it's just you'll never master it that's why it's so important to always be at your best and that's the challenge of it all the challenge of it all is that it's first of all the stakes couldn't be higher for the animal it's life or death you owe that animal a quick death right and you're also in this situation where there's there's these wild instincts that live inside all of us because we
all come from hunters all of us and you might not even know that's in there and the way i'd say to people like most people have caught a fish yeah i'm like you know what that feeling's like when you get a fish like oh i got them you feel it on the line you feel you feel it's life like it's tugging on that line but it's so exciting yeah the reason why it's so exciting is there's a part of our ancient memory that recognizes that the difference between life and death is whether or not you get that fish and you get that nutrition and you can feed a family you feed your family you got this fish okay now we're eating we're alive i remember you know you've caught trout you remember eating that meat and tons of little bones in it you don't give a [ __ ] you're pulling out the bones and putting them on the plate but you're eating that what you caught yeah and you know as a kid we'd catch trout in the in the creek out behind the house hardly any meat on those things once you you know like a 10 inch cutthroat and you're picking through bones and you're eating it but you're eating what you caught yeah that was the thing there's a satisfaction to that that was my first experience with you know any kind of wild creature was catching fish and eating fish and i did that a lot when i was a kid i did a lot of fishing but hunting is that times whatever it's like way more intense and it's i think it's more intense because it's a mammal there's something about fish that people don't really give that much of a [ __ ] about fish for whatever reason we don't associate with them and it's they're not as valuable to us nutrition wise like when you see a fish like that is a meal when i see an elk i'm like that's my year's meat oh man that's my meat for a year yeah i'm trying to think what i i mean i think about i love the meat but i think about when i was growing up it's like seeing a a big bowl was like seeing a unicorn almost yeah i mean it was you know we we deer hunt a lot and that's all i used to hunt as deer i never even hunted elk with a rifle but seeing a big bowl god it's just they're magical so rare
yeah they are uh they're a majestic creature and people would you kill them listen the the death from a hunter is the best death that animal has ever gotten they're they're not going to get a better death that death is going to be quicker than any wolf or any mountain lion or any bear is ever going to give them and they're not going to live forever like the elk that i shot in utah his teeth were so worn down he was like a 13 year old bull he had just gum so he was gumming grass in some spots which means he had a year or two left where he had any [ __ ] teeth at all and then he's gonna starve to death yeah or he's gonna get taken out by a cat or by some other animal yeah that's that's what happens to them yeah they just get they can you know consume less you know a 700 800 pound bowl that's a lot of grass that's got to eat right yeah you can imagine how so you know what you eat and how many calories are in it if you're just eating salad all the time how much salad you need to eat to fuel yourself you don't even get dressing right so think about a big bowl elk how they got to eat almost all the time well when when he's you know his teeth are he can't process that i mean he can't feed like he would if his teeth were good it's like he can't get enough so slowly he's he's wasting away and getting weaker and weaker over months over days over years whatever amount of time and then it's like he can't do it anymore we saw a really old cow uh cow elk in uh california this year it was sad she was all skin and bones really yeah we couldn't figure out if like something had happened to her if she got injured or if she was just so old she couldn't chew her food anymore but yeah that's what happens that's what happens they get to a point where they don't get enough like like you're saying they have to eat every day all day they don't they don't like fast there's no intermittent fasting in the bull world no and you know i i think about i mean i have compassion for animals i mean i you know the killing part is a part that i i don't enjoy but
so you think about that animal what what it's going through so say a cat's in the area the herd spooks that cow because she's weaker and more frail the herd takes off she can't keep up yeah imagine those thoughts you know i mean it's still trying it knows what it has to do to escape this predator yeah and it can't and it's like i don't know there's no easy death in the wild no the cycle of life is ruthless yeah it is so a well-placed arrow um i don't know as you said there's no more merciful deaths for him it's kind of amazing that humans made it as long as we did we're so weak compared to animals i mean we're smart enough to figure out weapons which is really what did it for us yeah i would like to let's go back in time and see what humans were like before weapons i would love to see what like australia pithicus looked like like be around them because we're really guessing what they look like based on their bones right yeah i don't know i mean they had to be more more tough than what the [ __ ] we are yeah like bill gates think about bill gates body well now imagine i know but i even think about you know they say the u.s is has is number one in the world in kova deaths and i think about we're number one part of that though is because we've had it so easy well it's also part of it is 95 of those people who died had four co-morbidities yeah but but that's what i'm saying is like you you can turn diabetic because of a shitty diet because of being obese because of so it's like that's what i'm saying is society's so easy a sickness like covid where you might overcome quickly and i know there's different variations of everything and everybody's different but a lot of people probably died because of how good of how easy life is right yeah for sure well you know theo vaughn who you just met theo didn't even [ __ ] know he had coveted we tested him for antibodies he's like oh [ __ ] i got them covered in antibodies yeah he didn't even know he had it amazing
it's uh it's you know we are a country that has a overall a large percentage of us have a terrible diet sedentary lifestyle aren't taking vitamins aren't supplementing their shitty diet with with nutrients they're not exercising they're not pushing their body and making it more resilient and making it tougher and the small amount of people that are they're not treated like they're different in terms of like what they're expected to do or not do during the pandemic and that's one of the things that's so weird it's like when you look at the real numbers of like the people that do survive the people that are sick and the people that aren't and you take into account the nutrients like they don't care they want a one-size-fits-all policy for everything because they want you to feel the same way some [ __ ] 500 pound guy with diabetes and and emphysema like he should be as scared as me we should be the same scared right that doesn't seem to make sense no yeah they want you to do what they do but they don't want to do what you do yeah exactly that's a good point yeah and and so it's easier to tell you what to do there was a [ __ ] ad i forget who made the ad but the ad literally said um how long it takes to lose weight it was talking about how long it takes to lose weight that you only lose like a pound a month then it said get the vax that's what he was saying yeah it was basically saying like forget it you ain't going to lose that weight yeah don't don't worry about being healthy don't worry about the fact that 78 percent of the people who get hospitalized for covet or obese yeah 78 yeah don't worry about that what you need to do is just take this shot it's how about both it's yeah it's so strange yeah can you be in good shape is that what's wrong with how about both how about take vitamins how about talk about vitamin d talk about the fact that 84 of the people that were in the icu at one point in time for covid had insufficient levels of vitamin d
84 don't hear that it's a giant factor four percent four had sufficient levels four percent most of the country is insufficient in vitamin d most of the country and more than 70 percent easy they're tiny i take them every day i take them every day amazing look how healthy you are it's it's a funny thing that you know people that are like yourself or like me that work out all the time i'm not requiring it of anybody i'm not telling anybody to do it but you can't pretend that it doesn't help you can't pretend yeah you can't pretend it's not better just be honest you can't pretend it takes a lot of effort but you know effort is something that's free yeah that's right you all got effort yeah however they say that there's the things you can control it's like being on time um working out doing all these things right you don't even need a [ __ ] gym all right i can if you want to you go oh what i can't afford a gym i could [ __ ] you up with a workout with no gym carrying my rock up the mountain that rock yeah that rock that you had yeah how much did that rock weigh 130. yeah so you cam had a rock this is before i met him it's one of the reasons why i met you you had a video of you putting a rock in a backpack and sometimes you just carry it on your shoulder yeah and you took the stupid rock up to the top of that when did you give up on that rock no i mean i have another no someone steal it i don't know what happened to it somebody rolled it off the mountain or something but then stole it yeah and then under armour sent me another rock but it's only 70 pounds so i have it there still but even carrying that 70 pound rock on your shoulder yeah that [ __ ] is hard dude bro i do work out sometimes with a 25 pound weight vest yeah that shit's hard yeah but i always think that this is all i need a rock and a mountain yes yeah so it's like that just you don't need a gym membership no you don't need much if you have a tree you can do chin ups you know there's a lot of folks who um do a lot of workouts outdoors they
like to do workouts outdoors and they um they do a lot of stuff where they show like purposely like you don't really need much equipment you just need something you could grab a hold of you find a tree branch that's sufficient jump up grab a hold of that [ __ ] you can get some chin ups in oh yeah you know like you don't need a burpee have you done yeah hard do about a hundred of those right exactly miserable or hindu push-ups you ever do those yeah i have hindu push-ups and hindu squats yeah do do a hundred of those yeah it's hard so but you know it it definitely better to have a gym without a doubt not saying there's a reason why i have a gym the reason why you have a gym yeah no bert sorenex is the reason why we have gyms thanks bert but they they're necessary i mean it really can it can help you but you can get a great workout without them but nothing helps me more than getting up before anybody else is up not anybody because people are up all the time but four in the morning and running nothing helps me more than just knowing that i'm making that decision to get my ass out of bed and getting outside yeah and because once i've done that it's like that i mean to me i always feel like that's the hardest decision to make getting out of bed and going outside yeah and so once i do that i won right you won for the day and you got to win again the next day it's like the rent is always due you have to always keep going and that's what people have a hard time with they have a hard time with consistency it's you know they they get enthusiastic like this is it i'm gonna quit cookies and no more cupcakes and i'm gonna get my [ __ ] together and they might do it for a day they might do it for a week can you do it for a year yeah you know can you do it for two years can you keep going yeah a lot of people can't no but they can it's all mental it literally is all mental you can force yourself to do anything and that's one of the reasons why i like to do new things and when you learn something you challenge yourself with something you become a beginner again that's what's important because when
you're an expert at something like you can get lazy being an expert you're like you already like a lot of fighters have done that where they they get to a point where they they believe they're so good like mike tyson in his prime mm-hmm so good doesn't feel like he has to train anymore he could party and then buster douglas comes along and he wrecks the party yeah you know and that's that's the wake-up call the wake-up call is like if you really want to be the best of the best you have to treat every day like it's a whole new project and there's no shortcuts there's no slacking off and your commitment must be 100 and you know what's so here's here's a struggle that i i even face because there's so many people who will say um you should take a day off you should get some rest sleep is important there's always it's like to do less and so then i don't know is it them wanting me to do less so they feel better or do they really care about me or you know so it because that's why i love people like goggins right you know so i focus on people like that not the people who are telling me hey you need to you know you're you're wearing your body down or you're doing this or that because there's always those people and i never know what their what the objective is i think they think they're right and i think a lot of them they're trying to give you good advice they're worried you're gonna have a heart attack and die yeah why are they worried about me well because they see a guy like you that's struck you you're putting out so much more effort than them they don't think it's possible to sustain it yeah maybe so but if you look at the donahue death squad like the elite jiu jitsu squad in the world gordon ryan gary tonin all those guys those [ __ ] take zero days off yeah 365 days a year and if you want to be on that squad you want to be competing in the world stage and representing john donahue there's no vacations yeah there's nobody's i mean christmas yeah no christmas yeah and it's like if
if they did go hard the next day it's not an off day they just go a little lighter just do technique yeah but they're training still yeah they're still getting better so they're to me that that this you flip that switch and it's like you i don't know you know mentally you're like no i'm still i'm still doing it still grinding i do something every day and some days it's just sauna and stretching and ice baths but i'm stretching i'm doing something so if i'm really wrecked i can still sit in the sauna for 20 minutes i can still stretch so i'm improving my flexibility i'm improving my recovery and i'm putting in the effort it's not easy to do that sauna it's not fun to do the ice bath oh my god when i do it are you i got your ice bath oh my god it's so terrible but i've never felt better it's great physically i've never felt better wait till you get a sauna as well that's the [ __ ] that's the combo baby right now i do the hot tub back and forth that's good that's really good too that's really good too dude i tell you what when i first the first time in it this is what's amazing it's like first time in it i made it maybe 30 seconds i mean it was three two yeah i think i did a minute and a half the first time and i was [ __ ] doing no my wife was like uh go down i think it's something like go down to your neck or you're over your shoulders and then i was like then i switched it around and i said no i'm getting out now because i was mad at her she's telling me to go lower so i'm like being a big baby and got out and said there you happy now now i'm not doing anything and uh so about 30 seconds and it was just up to about like i don't know waste is so miserable now i can stay in it's not fun but i do five minutes a day yeah isn't it wild you just get accustomed to it yeah it's uh but it's never quite like you know you go sit in the hot tub and you're like oh i'm gonna go sit in the hot tub that's fun it's fun all the time it's fun every
second is fun or like relaxing not fun but relaxing and then the ice bath none of us relax it's just miserable but my god my body and i don't know if it's inflammation i don't know i don't know what it is but i've had a hip thing for years and um you know when i'd go do those big runs or whatever it was always about what my what is my hip going to do hip feels great isn't that wild yeah yeah i don't know why it's anti-inflammat anti-inflammatory properties so these cold shock proteins yeah when you uh when you subject your body to that insane temperature your body thinks it's going to die and your body produces these cold shock proteins you know dr rhonda patrick has talked about it pretty extensively that and heat shock proteins it also produces norepinephrine and that makes you feel good it's literally like a potent antidepressant and wim hof talks about that he talks about how ice baths are a cure for depression because you feel like [ __ ] but you get in that ice bath when you get out of there you feel [ __ ] great get out you feel yeah oh yeah no no not when you're in there no you're saying i must be doing something wrong well that's i took rhonda the first time uh she experienced that i took her to uh cryo healthcare in woodland hills back where my old studio was yeah and she would get into that uh cryotherapy thing with me and then when she got out like uh i filmed her coming out for the first time because like you remember those things you open the door and all the [ __ ] smoke comes out oh it's like minus 200 or so 250 yeah minus 250. and so she got out she's like oh that was amazing and she's like starts rattling off all the things that's happening to your body like why yeah and she was like and she because she was so excited because she's so smart and she understands all the mechanisms of like what's going on why your body's reacting the way it is it was really interesting to see but she was talking about the norepinephrine now it gives you and she's like wow i feel amazing and you know like for her being a scientist yeah and to experience that rush yeah yeah
she was like oh you know it's like it's she had always been a fan of the sauna and she had done that a lot but like the ice the cryotherapy had been a new thing but i think cryotherapy is it's brutal and it's great but it's more tolerable for some reason oh yeah than i did before and that wasn't that wasn't bad at all no well it gets rough the most i've ever done is i did three minutes and 40 seconds and when you get every minute like once you hit two minutes every minute more gets rougher okay three minutes is rougher yeah and then three minutes and the guy who used to run it was like let me see how long you could take it and i probably would have stayed in longer but my legs were shaking so bad i started as good as this ice bath no is it no no it's a different feeling the ice bath like you have a really hard time breathing it's like i didn't know how expensive those were it's not not cheap freaking i think like seventeen thousand bucks and it's a little bit more than that is it there's twenty oh my god but that's the one you have you don't have to do it that way you can just get bags of ice which are fairly cheap yeah and a tub like you can do it with on the cheap but you're right you're it's a breathing yeah it's like so i i think i do and they say even just breathing deep is good for you like outside of and i never do that but so you have to do it in that ice bath but i'm like in through my nose and out i can do like six breaths a minute or something like that and then so i know i count to 20 right and then i'll look at the clock and i'm like god thank god i'm over two two and a half minutes or something like that but yeah it's i mean i always wear a dive watch right so i was go in and i set the thing and then i just i'll do you know whatever i decide to do whether i do more than five minutes isn't good for you is what it says that's what they say but you did like 20 right 20. i think it was it was a little more than 20. i did 20 one day yeah and it was uh not good i don't know how hard it was when i saw that video of you doing that i'm like well whatever then i got one
i'm like oh my god how yeah i'm never doing that again because i was pretty [ __ ] up for a couple days afterwards yeah i was a little off mm-hmm and uh my wife was scared that i was gonna die she uh yeah she said that she she was like hovering over me while i was sleeping like checking to making sure that i was alive she said she was really worried that i was gonna die like if i was gonna die to die right afterwards yeah i would have died at night then i'm nice and warm like i didn't have hypothermia but you could get hypothermia because they say 34 degrees for 15 minutes induces hypothermia but i didn't get hypothermia no and i was at 34 degrees for 20 whatever minutes at five minutes my legs are like kind of shaky a little bit yeah it's cold but i was doing breathing exercises while i was doing it that's part of what it is i read a book called uh breathe uh by james nestor and he's been a guest on the podcast before and it's all about breathing exercises and deep breathing exercises and what it could do for you but one of the things that it definitely does is it heats your core up right so if you watch the video of me doing it i'm going like this going i'm holding it and i'm going so while i'm doing that i'm breathing out i'm tightening up my abs and my core and i'm squeezing with my chest and my shoulders i'm i'm breathing in like a workout yeah yeah so i was keeping my body somewhat warm through these breathing exercises that's why i was able to sustain 20 minutes in there but i only did it once and i'm like but when i did it afterwards like i tried to do it the next day i did three minutes the next day and when i hit three minutes my vision was shaky really yeah i was like looking at the uh like i had a phone set up so i could see the timer and my vision was shaky and i was like i better get out of this as if i black out in this [ __ ] thing and die no one's ever gonna let me live that down yeah obviously because i'll be dead but that was also before i had my sauna set up which made it way easier because once i the sauna set up i can get in that [ __ ] for you know whatever minutes and i know
that song is right there waiting for me to jump out and hop in but one of the things that's really weird is i do a couple minutes in the ice bath and then i get into the sauna and the juxtaposition of sauna to ice bath like the change in temperature is so extreme because it's i go i'm going for 33 34 degrees to 185 degrees yeah and when your body like heats up that quickly i close my eyes and it's like i'm tripping it's like i'm on a drug it is wild the head rush is so crazy that sometimes it's overwhelming and what's weird is when you open your eyes it kind of goes away like i don't understand it because i'm i'm lying if i open my eyes i'm fine but when i close my eyes it's like oh it's almost overwhelming like i'm dizzy like i'm drunk like i'm having bed spins almost with my eyes closed but you feel good after all of a sudden oh my god you feel amazing everything feels incredible i wish everybody could yeah i mean it's i guess family does it now even my kids do it yeah the ice bath yeah you know i told tony hinchcliffe i give him a thousand dollars for every minute he stays in the ice bath did he do it he hasn't done it yet oh he's he's he's like it's easier for you i don't have any fat i'm like i'm not fat yeah [ __ ] you saying bro i'm not fat he's like i have no i'm nothing i'm skinning bones yeah but i i think he could do it my little daughter did she did a [ __ ] minute really yeah freeze it freeze it but it's fun they get a kick out of it they think it's fun yeah you know but it's building resilience you know like getting your kids to do stuff like my kids luckily are really into sports and i think sports and athletics and difficult things where you have to push yourself is and then also failing like missing the shot when you wanted to do it like missing the [ __ ] up things and then learning that you can get better you work harder like that's so important for kids and things like ice bath even though it seems so easy like it's only a minute how hard is a minute because but it teaches them resilience like you can
endure things and when it's over you know i did it i didn't want to you getting that thing for you saw you're 30 seconds like get the [ __ ] out of here god yeah i was yeah so speaking of that i wonder do people go through just avoid failing oh yeah all altogether yeah it's terrifying so they don't have to deal with yeah yeah that's weird because i mean like anytime i lift like it's to fail right to failure i mean or you know those that's a different kind of failure because it's still a success because you got the reps in before failure yeah i guess i'm trying to think it's an accomplishment yeah i mean i it's not like i enjoy failure but it's always losing it's getting smacked yeah but there's always a that threat like bow hunting there's a threat of failure on every hunt yeah for sure so yeah well the worst would be a wounded animal right that gets away and you know that that animal is wounded and may live or may suffer for a few days and then die the the feeling of failure is so important because it sucks and so it makes you like no one it's not like no one is perfect at the thing that they like to do right away so you have to figure out how to get better at it and one of the best ways is through negative feedback when you have negative feedback you're like wow i don't want to do that again right and then you go back and you work harder or you figure out what you did wrong and it's a motivating factor that can't be denied it's like people don't like the expression fat shaming but let me tell you something if someone calls you fat yeah and they're right never forget it you feel like [ __ ] yeah and then it may motivate you to work hard or you may just sulk and eat cake and blame the world yeah it's up to you but the feeling of a negative feedback especially if it's something that you can control like if you see a guy who's in a wheelchair and he can't walk and you make fun of him well you're a [ __ ]
right yeah there's nothing you guy can do about that right but if you see like if if someone's doing something if you see someone trying to do a sport and they suck at it and then they lose but then you see them like a couple of years later and they're a bad [ __ ] out of you like ah that person felt the sting of loss but they kept pushing yeah they kept hammering oh i like it yeah that's true i mean um you know i even think about with courtney dewalter her first hundred she had to quit she failed yeah she quit at mile 60 i think oh my god and then came now of course she's you know one of the best to ever do it but that failure see you you make a decision right there it's like i never want to do this again so i'm never going to do it again or i'm going to train so hard that it's never going to happen again you're never going to fail again never going to fail without i mean you when you do hard things there's always a risk of failure yeah i mean but it's uh i don't know well you know the use the risk of failure used to be connected to survivor survival rather like you know doing things and accomplishing them that's why your genes carried on as opposed to the people that just waited to die and then didn't do anything like that and that's one of the reasons why women are very attracted to people that are great at things because they know it's difficult to get great at things yeah they're attracted to it it's a genetic thing yeah they're attracted because they want to spread the genes they want their genes to be connected to this person who is like this powerful individual and i think there's something in genes that passes on into children i don't think it's as simple as um like a nurture i think nature has some weird factor in it in genes because my kids have never had it hard they haven't had but my [ __ ] middle daughter is a goddamn psycho she's a psycho like she's so driven yeah and she's not driven because she doesn't get love she gets a ton of love like she's super confident relaxed and silly but
when i see her focus on things she has this crazy focus like this like intensity of like trying to get better at things like like she does backflips in the house we gotta stop her like hey stop it's time to eat dinner yeah one more one more she's like she she won't stop that is me but mine was from not getting any attention as a kid yeah but genetically yeah somehow it got in there but it got into her in a loving household like where she's she's constantly loved and she gets plenty of attention like she doesn't think about she doesn't have any feelings of not having value so her is not like i'm gonna show everybody it's not like that hers is like i need to get better at this so it transferred some i'm assuming that i wouldn't have had the kind of crazy drive i had if i had a great childhood i'm assuming that i might be wrong maybe it is somehow or another in the dna from other things right but i i got to think of my own motivations when i was younger like i always wanted to be someone special because i didn't feel special right so i realized when i started fighting that i was good at this i was like oh my god i'm not a loser like here's the thing that makes me feel like a winner like for first i had a 180 degree shift of how i felt about myself right from like i'm a [ __ ] loser i'm a [ __ ] i'm scared of everybody too oh i'm i'm like winning tournaments right i'm actually good at this and your parents had nothing to do with that zero right they never saw me fight once it's crazy yeah i think huh that's interesting i mean that's how it was for me with bowen well first with sports you know i played football and things like that but then after that there's nothing and then bow hunting when kids find a thing that they excel at and then they get some praise and they get positive feedback from excelling at that thing that is so magical for them i feel so terrible for children that never get good at a thing never feel that that the struggle and then reward upon success but also there's a fine line
there because now we celebrate mediocre being mediocre right i was going to say another word right that's well that's a problem right it's a problem we have now we have participation right so it's like there's that fine line because they're getting positive information but it's not warranted it's not warranted yeah that's do they know the difference i think some of them don't that's why they're so angry yeah and that's why also they lash out at successful people you know there's a lot of that where they don't think that that's important or they or they don't have that attribute they don't have even the possibility of it so they get angry at it it's a this is a very confusing time for a lot of people and the the reality of the lessons of life are that they're hard-won they're hard-won and they're difficult like if someone wants to be you if someone could like get into your body and have like you wake up okay you have the mind that you had when you're [ __ ] harry mcgillicuddy whatever the [ __ ] your name is but you get to live as cam haynes for a day and you have a schedule in front of you this is what you gotta do you gotta get up like today you're gonna run 16 miles in the morning and then you're on 10 during lunch and then you're gonna shoot your bow and then you're gonna lift yeah they wouldn't like that every day this is every day and all you're working all day you don't even get to sleep you have to work eight hours a day mm-hmm what they would do one day and they'd be like what the [ __ ] are you talking about yeah well he's sleeping four hours a night what the [ __ ] is this then you gotta do the next day too yeah this is nonsense for years decades decades good luck [ __ ] yeah right but but there's one of you right like there's one bowhunter who has a million followers on instagram it's you and how did you get that way you got that way because what you're doing is truly exceptional it's undeniable it's undeniably unique that's not in most people's gas tank
it's not most people don't have the ability to push themselves to truly have a maximized life and they're there for us too the the people who fail they're there for us the people who the haters the crabs in the bucket that are pulling people down let us accept they're there for us they're all lessons for us yeah the people who come up short they're lessons for us the the the people who make excuses and who hate on other people and talk [ __ ] about people behind their back and then aren't to their face they're there for us they're lessons that feeling that you get when you're around someone who comes up like who like puts in less effort than they should who makes excuses and you feel that when you feel someone maybe they lie about something about the way it went like not good feeling not a good feeling but then the feeling when you see someone who's like done something truly remarkable and unique like wow it's a good feeling yeah that's a lesson there's like there's lessons in this some people don't want that lesson because with that lesson there's a [ __ ] course you have to take right here's how you get to where this person got like you see that person that you admire see those amazing accomplishments okay here's your assignment this is what they did the biggest thing for me is now i can recognize a difference so before i was like the people you're talking about the crabs in the bucket i was one of the crabs right most people so yeah i was talking [ __ ] i was minimizing what other people did and saying well you know i could do that too if i had this or that but so when you can switch and now you realize you can see it all that's the biggest thing yeah because like oh my god i was that but i can be this once you get to be this yeah then you can see it yeah it's uh and now now i it's i'm just attracted to like a dagogans and like the that you know you people who are successful who are paving
away and are making an actual difference and never pulling people down i'm like no that's okay that's what i want to be and it's just but i never i couldn't really i couldn't see it it's weird anybody sees it until you've reached a level of success where you're comfortable in your own skin you know and then i mean even for brief moments you know like i'm my own worst critic even though i've had a lot of success in life like i'm not i don't rest on it at all i can't i got to keep going like i know what it's like to fail i [ __ ] hate that feeling so i'm always trying to improve and that's one of the beautiful things to me about learning a new thing like learning bow hunting is that i've had this unique opportunity to start at something from scratch which i think is very valuable yeah most people don't do that they don't start at something from scratch because they don't have the time or they don't have the opportunity like especially a really difficult thing like learning a martial art like i admire people that are like 40 years old or a white belt you know like wow look at you you're in there going after it good good luck all right and i same thing i see people who they call it what adult onset hunting like trying to learn hunting at you know in your fort like what you did yeah oh my god it's so hard it's hard but it's also so valuable dude i mean the the feeling that you get the nutrition that you get you know i mean i have i got a [ __ ] freezer full of amazing meat and i cook that [ __ ] almost every day almost every day i'm cooking something you know and i eat it all the time i make i make a pile of it and then i eat it like all throughout the day like i i eat it in the morning when i get up i just put hot sauce on a plate and and dip cold elk in there that's like okay most of my meals are meat i eat like 80 meat yeah i mean i see people and they talk about how you know i kill more than i could eat and man i don't know i i know you eat a lot of it and you also give away a lot of it well i mean my boys eat yeah tanner you got two savages yeah tanner takes deer meat elk meat up to his base up at fort lewis and
i mean we eat meat i mean my family goes through some meat and then i like giving it away and then we have people come over and it's uh i give some to the guy down the street he was a navy seal and uh lost an eye in his in his hand and he makes up like meatloaf out of my whitetail from texas and it's just like that it's such a community staple you know it's like as i always said i think i've said it on here is i see as hunters as providers that's what we're supposed to do yeah so yeah i'm going to kill and i'm going to help the community i love giving meat to my friends i love it i love when they send me pictures you know like my friends that don't hunt at all my friend tom papa he's always sending me pictures we trade he gives me baked bread he makes fresh baked bread and i give him elk meat yeah when i moved here i gave him one of my commercial freezers because i had him in my studio so i gave him one of my freezers gave him a bunch of elk in it yeah i mean it is empowering but then also just speaking of bow hunting in general i mean when i when i first started i think i was more confident than i should have been i think as your as a young man i mean i remember i would like almost intentionally want to take harder shots than i needed to because like i would see an animal this is what you'd i would now i'd look about how irresponsible it was you know like i'd have a uh laying through a tree instead of taking a step over to the right and be like well this is a better shot it'd be like no i can no problem i shoot through i can shoot through that gap all the time and i would do it but it's like why why was i making it harder just because that was just just being a young man and just being irresponsible now stubborn now i'm like so paranoid that um you know i've had success but you have to earn it every single time yeah and if i i kill one bull for say in oregon my first ball of the year i'm like well now i'm like at least i won't get shut out so instead of i don't have the confidence now i put in the
work i hope it's enough but there's no guarantees in bow hunting i know how hard it is so before i was overconfident now i'm like i gotta earn it every time that's an accurate assessment that's you have a better map of the landscape that's what that is you know when you're young more data yeah when you're young you're just a [ __ ] dummy yeah i was young i was so cocky i thought i could do anything right and so that's that's how i was yeah even in bow hunting and now i'm just like god you know i just trained so much harder than i ever did when you're young you also don't have a lot of experiences with consequences yeah you don't have a lot of like negative consequences so you you kind of you think things are always going to be great yeah that's true that's testosterone too you know your body's all filled with piss and vinegar that's that's why people go to war when they're young that's why people do all kinds of wild things when they're young because they they have a different perspective they don't send 50 year old dudes to go to war they're like what the [ __ ] are we doing we can get shot let's get out of here it's dangerous yeah can we drop bombs in these [ __ ] people from the sky let's get out of here yeah yeah it's uh it's it's an interesting thing the journey of life and learning like what you can and can't do and learning why you couldn't do it and that maybe you could have done it if you did something differently i think it's important too like so where we are now when you get older i think it's we've talked about taking risks and we're talking about doing hard things but those things humble you yeah you know i know fighting can humble you greatly i i haven't done it like you know like what you have but bow hunting can humble you the long the big endurance races can humble you so i think that being humbled man that that makes a big impact on somebody it it doesn't but also success motivates you too it's like not just the humbling but the actual success you know it's like watching like we're saying watching an arrow perfectly fly and slam into the vitals when you know it was a
lethal shot and you know that it's lethal because you [ __ ] practiced yeah you put in all that time all that time no i know it's uh that sheep hunt i mean i've only had two of them and uh two sheep tags in my life and 33 well i've been people need to know like wild cheap very difficult to get it yes oh big horn sheep it's basically in oregon it's once in a lifetime so my home state and i've never drawn so i've put in for you know decades never drawn and once i do draw that's it you get one tag your life whether you kill or not that's it so if you're not gonna and basically all the states it's very low odds of drawing a tag all western states every place that has sheep so the first time i went with roy up to alaska i paid and um he was the guy and i did a doll sheep hunt that was my first one and then this one same thing either you draw your pay so those are my two tags but anyway point is is like where something like not once in a lifetime but close to it and it's comes down to an arrow flying through the air and killing it that's i mean you got to practice for that moment you got to practice for that moment yeah it's that's the thing and when it does find its mark it's reinforcing your all that effort and reinforcing all that focus and concentration and letting you know you're on the right path you did the right thing you did the right thing and here's your reward now get back to work for that one time for that one time and then get back to work yeah the next time i have anything to do with that time yeah i had a aggravated shoulder and i took a couple months off shooting and then uh i remember like the first arrow back um is like 65 yards uh on a target perfect bullseye second arrow not perfect at all yeah no i hit the target but it was like i was off by like 10 inches i was like what the [ __ ] is that and then the third arrow a little closer
i was like oh this is being consistent david this is why like part of it first arrow was perfect yeah but it's like how how perfect i mean how many times can you do that you could have stopped right there i could stop right there and pretended yeah that i didn't have to work hard yeah but like i i've heard that people will go on elk hunts and literally not practice until they get into camp and then they pull out their bow and they get a little reinhardt target and they start firing a couple of hours and i'm like what are you talking about you haven't been practicing i haven't had a time you haven't at the time when you're out here on an elk hunt they don't really think they're gonna kill though i mean they they're they're pretty much going with the odds are you're not going to kill odds are 10 success so you the odds are you're not going to kill and so they're just like well i'm probably not going to kill it maybe i will maybe i won't they're not living and dying with that and that's being dramatic but they're not they're their purpose isn't wrapped up in that right you know what i mean well a great example of how difficult bow hunting is to me has always been lanai because lanai is on paper the easiest place to kill an animal with a body thousand deer thirty oh thirty thousand deer three thousand people three thousand people and they're [ __ ] everywhere if someone said to me okay i'm gonna go on this hunt what are the odds of me seeing a deer hundred percent i'm not even gonna there's not there's no if ands or buts 100 you will see deer yeah 100 you will get shots but you're probably likely not to kill a deer this is what's crazy we were there and we had like the dream team right it was you adam greentree john dudley remy warren shane dorian i mean god damn there was a a lot of killers in that camp right like pro guys who are professionals guys who were like expert archers guys like shane dory they have a lot of animals under their belt so it was a crazy camp a lot of us we did the podcast from lanai we wound up killing like everybody got a deer everybody at least
got one deer but there's a lot of missing you know that they're they're an animal that evolved to get away from tigers yeah they're the craziest fastest animal i've ever hunted in my life there's like lightning you can't believe how quickly they could dodge and arrow well we left and then when i talked to the guide when we went back the next year he said 150 hunters came to bow hunt one was successful wanted one killed besides us one besides us yeah the rest of them all pulled out a rifle after like five days yeah what the [ __ ] if you have a rifle 100 100 you're gonna kill yeah 100 and it's the best meat in the world like it's right up there with elk a little different i prefer elk but not by much yeah no they're great it's incredible meats and access is like sweet almost oh it is amazing meat yeah but that's how hard it is that's hard and this is all these goddamn animals there's so many of them i know like it's not like hiking into the mountains like you have to do in utah or in colorado when you're trying to hunt elk you gotta go to elevation you you know you're you're out there you're another ass you're competing with mountain lions yeah what what do you think is the hardest part of bow hunting if you had the moment the moment of execution that's the hardest part but also getting yourself prepared for the moment of execution requires so much commitment you have to shoot so many times like it's hard for a person who is an archer to describe to someone who's never shot a bow all of the things that you're juggling when you're at full draw you're you have to have your anchor point perfect you have to have your your shoulder relaxed your hand relaxed but you're also holding it steady you you have to make sure that you're following through you're not jerking the shot you have to make sure that you're staying calm in the moment you're not being overcome by anxiety yeah you have to make sure that you've practiced so much that you have a hundred percent confidence that when you release that arrow it's gonna go where you want it to go
and then there's no taking it back once the arrow's leaving there's no taking it back then there's your fitness in order to be able to hike into the mountains to get to where these things are you can't be a fat [ __ ] you can't be out of shape you can't have piss-poor cardio you cannot yeah you have to go to where they are and they're there because that's hard to get to they're there because there's mountain lions and there's people and there's bears and there's [ __ ] wolves so they go high up and they're fit as [ __ ] they they could when you watch an elk run up the side of a hill you're like how the [ __ ] is am i supposed to compete with that thing yeah slow bitch-ass legs i have so being becoming proficient is the first one and then crunch time is the second one yeah becoming proficient but you can become proficient and not be able to deal with crunch time crunch time might be harder it's like i think it is yeah i think crunch time's harder because becoming there's a lot of proficient people that are proficient but they're just not good during crunch time yeah there's great shooters yeah that screw it up i mean they screwed up after like decades of hunting too they're some of the best shooters in the world who mess up in crunch time it's like that with everything yeah it's like that with comedy it's like that with martial arts it's like that with it's you know miyamoto musashi the great samurai who wrote that book the book of five rings he said once you understand the way broadly you can see it in all things and when i think of when i think of bow hunting it's an incredibly difficult pursuit and it's like many incredibly difficult pursuits it's like you have to have all there's no shortcuts everything has to align including you with your mind and your spirit everything has to be aligned yeah i think that's i agree with the same with basically all the difficult things that i've ever done they all have that in common that everything has to be aligned yeah there's no half-assing that's i mean i don't know i love the test of it and
so you talked about becoming proficient becoming comfortable with all those different aspects of shooting i mean even when i'm shooting in my driveway i see people chiming in about are you going to hit your truck i mean my truck or my doc my but there my truck is you know i'm shooting through a two-foot lane i'm not going to be two feet off but to somebody who doesn't know maybe they are i don't know maybe how they practice or maybe but you shoot through your window sometimes i do yeah i did it 85 yards but to me it's like if i can shoot through the raptor window at 85 yards i mean i gotta believe and yeah to me that's that's so what i hit my truck if i'm going to wound an animal right that's you can fix it i don't care about my truck right i care about that animal so it's like it's all part of that test that focus and it's um but i don't know people have the hardest time with that but i mean i don't know maybe that's one of the reasons why that leupold uh full draw four yeah that rangefinder so good yeah because when you program it right i don't know you haven't programmed yours but if you program it right it shows you exactly where the height of the arrow is yeah so if you're looking at a target it shows you like oh you will hit that branch yeah because you don't know sometimes yeah an arrow you know it drops down over time that rangefinder is [ __ ] yeah it shows you exactly where that line is that's that's good but also that's a lot of detail for people to because that's crunch time yeah so people miss a lot more than where the arrow's going to go have you ever seen that uh guy joel turner's website you know shot iq website it's really good it's really important because he explains what is going on during this moment of crunch time with your mind and how your mind just wants it to be over with and right and you'll just get the arrow on the way yeah and you'll go through it the way it describes it is you can go through it and you like you don't even know what happened or you can go through it and have an absolute memory of every single step that happened because you keep your
mind in the present moment and you do that through repeating a mantra and saying things to yourself why you do it yeah i i know that people do that people shoot all the time they don't know how far it was they don't know if they lined up their peep they don't know if they leveled up their their bow um they just shoot yeah and then they don't know what happened they don't know where the arrow went so yeah that can happen in the blink of an eye or it seems like a thousand miles an hour when really it's a lot of steps to that process you need to be aware of this uh bull that i shot in california which was absolutely the biggest bullet i ever shot in my life i know huge i was so aware of every single moment of the whole process and we were uh we called this bull in and the bull circled around to try to get our wind and when he was at 50 yards he was looking right at us but he still wasn't sure what we were because we were fully camoed like when a bull a bull sees you and you're not moving they don't know what the [ __ ] you are they they recognize movement so if you're still yeah so he was like like trying to figure out what we but he was clearly horny you know and uh when uh my buddy cody who's with me the guide when he blew the cow call and the bull stopped at 50 yards i remember every single thing i did i remember watching the peep and then settling it in there with the housing making sure it's perfect making sure the level is just right pulling through the shot and watching that arrow and that makes up for all that time i mean i enjoy archery i enjoy the practice so it's not like it's difficult work right it's enjoyable but knowing that you put in all that time and during that time with with for sure the biggest elk i've ever seen on the hoof i've never seen an elk that's that big yeah and to have that arrow right behind the shoulders like whoa yeah that's why with the pictures of it i wanted that hole to be right there in the picture i want to see that yeah now that was perfect yeah that was and they talk
about people think i keep basketball baseball fighting things happen in slow motion is what people have termed it as is like everything slows down and you're in complete control whereas when you're not when you're new it's like you don't remember any of it yeah so it sounds like your that experience right there was like slow motion everything was you were just in control every aspect and it was also it was great because it was only two weeks after utah so i had already gone on the first hunt i had already had success i understood i was i was in the groove it's like hunting is a thing that i think is like many things it's like you have to do like when i do stand up a lot i get loose and then i know what i'm doing i still get nervous i still get excited because it's important to me but i know what it is yeah i'm super familiar with it when i take like 10 months off of hunting and then i go back in and hunt again like yeah the first arrow or so i know it's like that's one of the things that's great about lanai yeah that hunt is the best hunt to warm up because you got all these targets it's a tough one to warm up to it's i like spring bearer that's a good one too yeah yeah but it's the same sort of thing right yeah you get you get this opportunity to to you know get a great animal get that meat but also you get the the feeling of of bow hunting and it's not just a memory it's a very recent memory yeah it's you know i was i was thinking well i think a lot of things when i think about hunting but uh that is one where we're in regular society it's like everything's a thousand miles an hour we're not even paying attention to detail barely listening to people when they talk you know right and just and with hunting it's like you have to shed all that and you're like no i got to be present in every single moment i got to make all these good decisions i got to be aware of the wind of everything that's going on so you're hyper focused whereas in life you're not focused at all a lot of times so i was thinking about that too but then also that brought me to another point like my sheep that i just killed it's like it's already over and i'm trying to to
to think about how how what kind of sense that makes to me because if it wasn't for photos and we get judged a lot for our photos you know the grip and grins so to speak but if it wasn't for the photos all i have is my memory of that moment right and that memory fades and i'm like i killed that animal one of the most iconic animals in the west i've only hunted them twice in my entire life and so that moment of killing it butchering it packing it out that's over that's that was one afternoon is that it but no i have this video and i have these photos and i have these these memories that are that are that are on my phone you know and i can relive and it's like so powerful because you know we talked about that's i looked at some of the native american stuff back there but then the cave drawings and all that was kind of their memory of the hunt but how powerful is those memories we capture on the hunt uh otherwise it's just a fading memory and sometimes our memory changes it yeah you know what i mean yeah but that photo on that video like that the kill of of you i think two or three years ago now utah yeah in utah but we have that forever that's the elk right when you walk in yeah i saw it the one by the flag i saw i'll never forget that no i remember that bull but i remember that moment and and we have that moment captured forever but um i was thinking about how important that is for hunters to have those memories and to be able to look back because other than that it's just it's just that that animal dying on on one day i think one of the problems that we face is that it's very difficult for us to get the way we feel about hunting to uh to get into the minds of other people that don't hunt you know they they don't understand why we're so happy when the animal gets hit yeah because they don't understand how hard it is to do they don't understand there's so much anxiety and there's so much pressure and then when you keep it together and execute and you see that arrow right behind the shoulder right
into the vitals and you know you did your job you're like it's it's so like that moment when you turned around to me and you're like oh my god i'm like oh you did it yeah that was a moment where all that hard work all that practice but from the outside in you're looking at that and going why are they so happy they're so happy because this animal's dying exactly why are they so happy yeah i was watching a video today where this guy shot this giant mule deer and uh afterwards him and his buddy were laughing and high-fiving and he grabs the the this huge like 215 plus mule deer by the antlers and they're just giddy with excitement i'm like to someone who doesn't understand hunting you would look at that and go these guys oh these guys are like vicious psychopaths that killed this animal and they're happy that it's dead like that's not that's not it you have to kind of be there to see how hard it is to do i wish everyone could experience how hard it is to to get to the place where you're in a shot to shoot you're in a position to make a shot to be actually competent enough with archery to execute especially a long shot right a 50-yard shot a 60-yard shot a long shot and then to understand what it really means because it's not a killing thing it is it's a success thing and it's a nurturing thing because you're going to get food from that you're going to this is going to nurture your body and your family's body this is food it's it's the best food and you're a testament to that man i mean if you want somebody wants to look at athletic performance look at what the [ __ ] you do and look at what you eat you don't think that's related it's got to be related your nutrition is off the charts you have literally like your your diet is mostly wild game it's like the most nutrient-rich meat that's available but you gotta go get it yeah you gotta go get it yeah no there's a and that that's empowering yeah just just having that mindset but it's the mindset too that goes along with the the fuel and then the purpose yeah so it's like it's that perfect storm but yeah and the diminishing thing that people don't want to diminish and go yeah well
that's not available to everybody the whole world can't hunt well guess what even if they could they wouldn't yeah like the whole world can't do most things right most people aren't going to do most things right it's true most people are just they just for whatever reason i'm not saying they can't do better i'm not saying that uh i wish they didn't do better i wish they did but they're not let's if you just looked at reality if you say like hunting is unavailable it's not it's not a way the world can survive with food and we need to all go vegan because otherwise everyone's gonna be factory reforming i'm not telling you what to do but i'm telling you what i do yeah if you want to do what i do guess what there's it's possible yeah it's definitely possible it's totally possible yeah not easy we're not maxed out on opportunity not even close i know it's bow hunting especially is gaining a popularity in a large part because of you and what you've talked about and how these discussions like this and who wouldn't be attracted to that i mean that's any or not any man but many men are want to know more about that lifestyle just from these discussions so i get that but we're not maximized on on opportunity for sure no not even at all and you know my first feeling of success hunting was not bow hunting it was rifle hunting when steve ranella i mean first of all how lucky i am am i rather to have stephen vanella introduce me to hunting and you introduce me to bow hunting i'm very lucky but when he took me out on that mule deer hunt in montana and i shot that buck and we were eating that meat over the fire that night i remember thinking right away i'm doing this forever yeah this is what i do and even if i had just done rifle hunting i would have been doing that forever i would have been doing it forever that's what i do well i think it's that's a good place for a lot of hunters to start rifle hunting is a great segue into the lifestyle sure sure and and then if you want to transition to bow hunting yeah that's fine you don't have to it just takes much more time to be proficient with the bow much more time but rifle hunting is available to a lot more people and
especially folks here in texas pig hunting yeah is available all year round it's great meat it it's delicious you can you can bring it to if you find a good butcher shop they'll make you some great sausage yeah my god wild boar sausage is sensational it's so good it's so good for you and you're also doing a good service because they need to get rid of some of these animals there's it's an infestation of these invasive animals wild pigs are not natural to this area they're not rather native to this area they're invasive they're they're brought in by the spaniards like [ __ ] in 1400 whatever the hell it was when they brought pigs over here for the first time and they're they're a great game animal yeah you could shoot them all year round they're people are happy if you shoot them yeah they'll let you on their property a lot of props yeah um you know mike judge the the guy who uh from beavis and butthead and yeah he actually asked me to come kill pigs at his blood yeah well if you want to go whitetail hunting with me i'm coming down in december the end right after thanksgiving and they got some big bucks yeah they do have big bucks yeah i killed true killed one last year i killed two nice but yeah it's free range south texas and they're delicious oh so good gk paloma i um i want to do some nail guy hunting out here that's another animal that's an invasive animal that um my friend jesse griffis who was a the head chef at uh excuse me at uh dai du a restaurant which is uh a an amazing restaurant in town that has uh he has a lot of wild game on the menu and he serves neil guy on the menu and he made like neil guy ceviche oh my god it's sensational it's a raw meal guy but it's like got citrus juice on it and onions and jalapenos and it's fantastic that's an another interesting animal that lives out here this uh when i was down here last year there was this cook in camp um the gathering girl is her name on instagram but i don't know who she was
we were this little like a trailer i think and uh and she brought over dinner she had cooked we'd been out hunting and i took a bite i think it was duck and i've never even eaten duck i'm not like a big duck eater but anyway i took a bite and i was just like wait a second who are you i mean it ta it was like the best meal i have ever eaten in this hunting camp in some trailer and she had tattoos kind of i didn't know even on instagram what was it gathering girl the gathering girl but the most amazing cook i i just couldn't believe the food we ate there the thing about wild game cooks like jesse griffiths or steve rennell who's an amazing cook himself it's like wild game cooks they have there's a different feeling of connection to the animals that they're cooking because not only these people chefs like jesse is an amazing chef but he's also a hunter and jessie actually runs there she is jessie she helped me skin my deer and yeah she was awesome oh okay let me see some other pictures here yeah okay so she's mostly cooking wild game stuff she's she's like a five-star chef i didn't know this oh a five-star chef and a hunter see uh jesse actually has courses where he takes people out for their first time hunting and he takes people out he takes them through the whole thing shooting the animal butchering it and then cooking it so he teaches them through this this whole course that he runs and it's to get people you know more enthusiastic and get him to understand what hunting is like and get them to appreciate what's possible with wild game cooking well if they if she prepared it i mean it's the best meal you've ever had yeah and people are interested jesse is on one of the episodes of he's actually two of the episodes of steve varnell's show uh meat-eater on netflix one episode where they went down to south texas and they went fishing and they caught a bunch of redfish and a bunch of different uh fish from the um the ocean down there and they cooked those up and then they hunted and they shot neal guy and then they cooked that it's an amazing episode
but to have someone who's a really good cook that can prepare wild game in that way is it's really sensational yeah yeah well i don't know made an impact on me so if you want to go there let me know do you cook yourself usually my wife she cooks it yeah yeah i was like how do you have the time yeah i i usually get home and the thing about it i can tell like for whatever reason the bulls i kill i can always tell the arizona the arizona bowl is the best bowl of any of the ones i kill and she'll make dinner and i'll come home i'll be eating elk and i'll be like this is arizona right and i can tell how can you tell i don't know just tastes amazing i wonder what they're eating that makes them taste different i'm not sure yeah i wonder what their diet is it's different different grasses than that i looked at that zoom and i knew at one time and now i can't think of yeah like um let me think i don't know but whatever it is it's that's crazy you're like a wine sommelier yeah without it you sniff it this is uh arizona well i i mean the oregon pepperoni steaks from this bowl this year were incredible but part of that too is a processor that um in cottage grove uh those guys do amazing cottage grove oregon they do amazing with my elk but the arizona bulls just right as they come man so good yeah it's uh amazing meat like the the thing about elk is most of the people that uh are buying elk if you go to a restaurant and you get like elk tenderloin what's crazy is you're getting it from new zealand oh really yeah wild yeah not that fresh then well maybe they freeze it fresh and then ship it over here frozen it's not much different than if i take a steak out of my freezer yeah that's true right yeah unless you're like i ate a couple pieces of liver and a couple pieces of backstrap fresh before you know i had to vacuum seal everything and and put it in the freezer yeah but like doesn't take much difference no between fresh and thought out we use like a lot of the if we want to kill bear we'll put that in
the insta pot and that man that insta pop makes meat really good so slow cooker yeah yeah yeah it says insta but it's really like six hours no but it's like high pressured right right yeah yeah yeah yeah no right you're it is it's uh yeah is it six hours or depends yeah i mean could you have one real slow yeah i've got one yeah all i know is whatever comes out of it is man when i had it in my old house that i need to get i need to go back to california and grab it is uh a sous-vide one of those uh you know jewel sous-vides so you ever do that no you you seal it in a bag and you could seal it with like a marinade and like garlic and whatever you want to cook your meat with and then like say if you want do you know the deal behind it no all right say if you want to cook like a deer steak to 130 degrees would just be like kind of like a medium rare like you seal this in this bag you put your marinade or whatever spices you want to put on the meat then you put it in this this water and you set the jewel whatever company you know there's a bunch of different sous-vide companies but the idea is it keeps the water at 130 degrees okay it never gets any hotter so you could cook at 130 degrees for like six hours i know people that have cooked things like shoulders and stuff like that have a tougher cut of meat for 24 hours and then they're just falling falling apart but you get it to the perfect temperature and then they use a blowtorch and they sear the outside with a [ __ ] blowtorch it's sensational i bet it's great or you could sear it into like a really wicked hot cast iron frying pan you sear the outside then you let it rest for about 10 minutes and slice it in perfect because you know when you get a steak and it's like kind of crispy on the outside oh yeah yeah you know um most of the way i cook it was with the traeger because but you get the same thing i use the the you know the thermometer inside of it and i get it to like i with the traeger i usually get keep it a little lower i get it's like 120 degrees but i heat it
up at like 260. so i'll heat it at 260 until it reaches an internal temperature of 120 and then i sear it on the outside oh i see yeah i'm more of a i eat for fuel not for taste so i'm like so but don't you like both you talked about this lady's duck yeah i know but it doesn't motivate me i mean it's like any effort i'm putting out is always for a purpose right no i get it yeah but you could have both yeah i know i understand i feel then taste yeah i love cooking but that reminded me too you said jewel which that was an amazing podcast oh the other jewel yeah but that also too reminded me of somebody who came up you know maybe that a hard upbringing character developing yeah just without without a hard up or her upbringing and it sounded terrible but maybe she wouldn't be jeweled you know it's interesting there's certain podcasts that really resonate with people and that one podcast i've had more friends call me and text me about that than any podcast in recent memory other than sanji gupta yeah that was a big one for different reasons for different reasons yeah but um the the jewel one like so many people were motivated by her and so many people were impressed by her like i knew she was smart because i had seen her talk on instagram and you know i'd seen the videos she did and you know her and i had gone back and forth and we had uh chatted but not in person but then to see or talk in person and realize not only she's smart like to do like a quick clip on instagram where you get to see the way her brain works but when you're having a conversation with her prolonged conversation for hours yeah i told her she should do a podcast but i tell it to everybody yeah but i do but i mean it when i say it because i think it's an amazing way to to be completely independent but especially her like you don't get to be that person without trial by fire like she was kicked she left her house when she was 15. she was homeless at 18. i know and then incredible 20 she's a millionaire yeah like it's nuts man
incredible story mom steals 100 million bucks from her oh that was you could tell she didn't she like she's kind of torn with that you know i mean nobody wants to trash our mom you know whatever i would trash my mom she's still 100 million yeah i'm going to be on her every day [ __ ] you [ __ ] i could i could even she was it she was almost not really making excuses but didn't want to trash her essentially and i mean i get that too you know i mean it's for you can say that because you're removed it's not your mom but it's like from the outside perspective it's different but for her i felt bad yeah i did too it was but i mean i think you know i can speak for a lot of people it's like she's another one of those people who you've exposed i mean she's everybody knew her before but a man exposed a different part or different layer of that person and um you know her i i just watched the the documentary on uh um anthony bourdain um i mean it's it's just like it just keep thinking about all these people who i wouldn't know in the same light if it wasn't for you and it's like i think that's you know your legacy is is that i mean you've shared these amazing people with legions millions you know that otherwise wouldn't have known them you know what's the weirdest part about it it all happens in here and it all feels like it's just me and that person like you right now yeah you and i are talking but [ __ ] millions of people are gonna see this yeah and hear this that's what's weird yeah that it doesn't feel like that like you and i could be having this conversation we're gonna have this conversation at dinner right we're gonna go eat after this yeah like we always talk like this yeah i mean not like completely uninterrupted right like like a podcast style but it's not much different not much different yeah yeah that's true so to get a chance to sit down with someone like her and just talk i mean i'm i'm of course i'm aware of my job i know what it is and i'm trying to like
massage the conversation to get the most but with her it was so easy yeah but yeah i the weird thing is it just feels like me and you mm-hmm it just feels like her and i it just it doesn't feel like the world is watching yeah which is the strangest thing about the impact of it yeah is that it does really just feel like a normal conversation yeah i i mean there but you know you know as well as anybody not everybody's good at doing that did that this you know like what how you're good at it is just second nature um i listen to a lot of shitty podcasts because those people aren't good at they like to be you but they can't and it's like it's not as easy as it sounds it's weird right but it's i swear to god whatever the [ __ ] my personality is like why my personality is the way it is it's almost like i was born for this like i was born to do this this way yeah like it's not hard at all right it requires some like sometimes it requires some effort like i have to do research on like certain different authors like some of the subjects i want to be i want to be able to get certain parts of their work out you know to try to like there's certain things i'd like to discuss about who they are what they do but it's not it's not a hard thing it's it's uh well not when you're born to do it like that this is your gift it's it's like my personality was designed for this because i've always like i was telling theo earlier i always talk too much when i was a kid everybody told me shut the [ __ ] up like you ask too many questions but i'm always like well how come well why is this why do we have to do that who says who the [ __ ] are they you know i was i've always been that guy okay so as podcasts develop and then as i've developed the like my skill at communicating which is definitely i think podcasting and conversations having a conversation with a person is a skill like you know people are some people are bad at it you talk to them it's awkward and then some people you're like i really like talking to that guy
like it's a nice little dance right you develop it yeah but it's like i was meant to do this so how well so why why have jewel on i mean what was your were you just interested in her story or well i've always been a fan of her her singing and her voice is [ __ ] incredible yeah and then um her story is wild man and i also when i realized that that show alaska the last frontier was her family was her family also okay comes from there oh i see i'm like wow i was like that's crazy like these people are homesteaders like they're the most robust live off the land type of people there are everything they do the hunting and the fishing and everything off the land you know and the fact that that's where she came from i was stunned because she's so beautiful and her voice is so incredible yeah and the fact that she came out of that like wow yeah what are the [ __ ] odds wow and then to uh to be like some people are just more impressive when they're in front of you and she's more impressive like her mind is incredibly impressive yeah that's that's what struck me is i think i texted you about how smart she was yeah jesus yeah this girl is amazing well she's also developing like a school curriculum yeah she's got a mental health program yeah like it's she's committed to that i mean she's she's uh i don't know i was super impressed she's also a real artist what i mean by a real artist she's an artist that decided at the peak of her fame that she was getting too famous yeah so she took two years off i know i that that podcast fascinated me well that's not normal no that's super rare and it turned down that first million dollar offer at 20 years old broke as [ __ ] yeah she turns down a million dollars like what that's pretty insightful it's just super unusual yeah just super unusual but that's also why she can make those kind of songs that's why she can become that person that she is it's just you know and it's a good it's a good argument for overcoming adversity that how how
important it is because like her life was filled with nothing but adversity just one challenge after the next yeah but through it she came out of the other end the opposite of jaded like the worst case scenario is you get through all that and you're a hardened you know jaded person she's the opposite of that she's like yeah kind and and and forgiving and and interesting and even wow you know her dad it wasn't it wasn't a great upbringing with her dad then her mom when she was an adult and now she's closer with her dad it sounds like yeah you know well she doesn't even talk to her mom if she stole 100 million right i mean it was but anyway the point is that story i mean i'm just super thankful that you know you expose people to i mean i knew jewel but man not that not that part of it so well i'm super thankful that i get to have the conversations that i have with these people because it's been an amazing education for me i've learned so much about life through talking to all these brilliant people all these amazing interesting people i've been exposed to more different kinds of people exceptional people than most people that have ever lived i mean if you really stop and think about yeah 1700 plus podcasts with all these brilliant folks yeah and funny and and different too like like uh yesterday i had gilbert godfried on who's like a um like a legendary community i remember legendary legendary guy and then the day before that i had my friend ari shafir my friend shane gillis and mark norman and we were all drunk and smoking cigars it's like it's all different and we're talking [ __ ] it's wild yeah it's like every podcast is like a different kind of experience but i have more of an understanding of people because of that than i would have ever had if i just lived a regular life yeah but i think also the people that listen in they get the same thing that i got out of it like what i'm getting out of it is not much different than what they're getting out of it because you you can listen to these conversations and you also get exposed
to people like graham hancock and randall carlson and neil degrasse tyson and brian cox and all these comedians and cam haines and all these different human beings it's like do you get to see all the different ways a person can think about life and live life right yeah that's important it's wild man yeah and that's that's life life should be all these different kinds of experiences it's it's life is so it's so many possibilities you know and i think that's scary for people it's what we were talking about earlier about people that are afraid of success they're afraid of the unknown they're afraid of like maybe it'll like the anxiety of not knowing how things are going to go yeah is sometimes more overwhelming than the knowledge that you're a failure like the knowledge that you're a failure that you went back to the pills oh no he's drinking again like that is like more comforting for some people to know that they're a failure than it is to not know if you're going to be a success yeah no that's i think you're right yeah i mean that and if if nothing else if people because of listening in here maybe take more chances you know that's the world needs the world needs change takers they need chance takers it needs you need it too everybody needs it i need it we all need it we need you know that [ __ ] staying inside the harbor man what are you doing yeah i know get get out [ __ ] don't do anything stupid don't be swimming with sharks i see that video i posted yesterday oh my god yeah what the [ __ ] man that guy had no idea no just out swimming in the ocean oh it's almost dead those give me as much anxiety as those people that do backflips on the top of roofs oh yeah i can't watch people get hurt and do stuff like that i don't like it i don't like those height ones when people are like death defying heights i saw that there's a big story out that joe rogan returns to the booth ufc 268. that's a big story yeah that's hilarious i don't know if it's a big story but it
was just doing this for 21 [ __ ] years i know but you've been you've been gone for a while they've done a lot of you know ufc's every weekend seems like oh yeah the last time i did one was july i think really i think so yeah so it's been a while august september october november yeah four months yeah it's been a while so it's a well supposed to be at the one in september and there was a big one in vegas but i had to be alcott and [ __ ] that was a story too yeah sorry people were mad at me yeah that i'm like listen i i appreciate you but i'm not i am not gonna pass up on elk hunting especially during the rut now small window time and i'm going to be out there yeah fact but you're going to be at this one i'm going to be at this one i'm going to be and um one of the things about calling the ufc is i do it because i want to do it yeah i do it because i love it yeah i mean it's way easier for me to just kick back at home with a cold one and watch on tv put my feet up and even being there live i'd like to be there live and not call it but honestly it wouldn't be as good because i have a better seat because i'm not only am i live i'm right at the cage and i have the monitors yeah so i get to see things from different angles my vision's blocked yeah oh my god i can't wait yeah that's one of the luckiest things that i am because i'm such a fan of the sport so for me to not just get to be there but to be there right at the edge of the cage with all the monitors and the headphones so i could hear everything perfectly and to sit next to daniel cormier and john anik and to call the fights and then the fact that i can actually like enhance it for some people and and put words to the performances and and express how much of a fan i am and let that enthusiasm come through how much very thankful how much do you love the in the octagon interviews afterwards after the fights man some of them are intense like rose nama eunice oh yeah like i cried i cried watching that one when i watched it the second time did you because she's like there's something about her it's like yeah when she's endearing but she's not
just endearing she's so pure yeah like when her and her her boyfriend pat berry when they're talking to each other after the fight and and he's like you're the best you're the best she's like i am the best oh and she's kind of crying [ __ ] mom's crying yeah and when i talk to her inside the octagon when i said before the fight because she was standing there before the fight she was like i'm the best i'm the best yeah and then i said that you were saying this to yourself before the fight she goes i am the best yeah it's like oh the way she said it was a revelation but it was like it was also it was so pure it was like she was laughing and smiling and enjoying it and then and even when she won the title like when she won the title and she beat uh she beat um yolanda and jay check she was like i just you know like we need to be better people we'll just be yeah be nice to each other that was a power she really means that she's like this hippie assassin yeah it's weird and i think the reason why when she was saying she's the best because it feels to me like she's doubted she's doubted if she was the best and then she was like it was like a revelation that i am the best you know because that mixed with that doubt or coming from the doubt it's like was what made it so powerful and i'm telling you her challenge this weekend is not a small one it's a big challenge i know she knocked zhang whaley out in the first fight with that head kick but had she not landed that kick that woman is a [ __ ] monster yeah zhang wei lee is one of the strongest women fighters that has ever existed she's so powerful and so aggressive and her physical preparation is second to none when you watch that lady trained you're like holy [ __ ] i know she's like a woman possessed she chopped off all her hair for this fight too she's not [ __ ] around i saw it and you know yeah she's got a haircut like bruce lee and there's a lot of short a lot of
pressure representing country like that god representing china yeah yeah listen tremendous pressure tremendous pressure and she's the you know she's a hero over there and she took that fight hard she took that loss hard she was she was devastated but right back to the drawing board i've been watching video footage of her training and my god that woman she prepares second to none there's no one who prepares heart it's not possible to prepare harder than her i mean she's doing it intelligently you know they're they're monitoring her sign her vo2 max and all that stuff and her heart rate but my god the effort the intensity but so is rose i saw rose hitting hitting and kicking pads in the hotel room there's some pop on those oh my god she's so skilled yeah her striking is incredible incredible her incredible and her ability to rise to the occasion and find the mark like when she landed that head kick on her i mean think about how many times she's done that when she uh when she knocked out johanna and when she landed that that left hook on joanna and then and and cracked her and dropped her and then put her away like she can do that to anybody she's and she looks so innocent just like her appearance is is so polar opposite of the violence she can cause i know totally unassuming and beautiful shaves her [ __ ] head that's what's crazy if you see her with her long hair she's gorgeous yeah look at the two of them i know oh my god intense man intense intense and it's going to be interesting to see how zhongweli responds to the the the first fight you know we have never seen her get ko'd like that and ko by a head kick early in the first round yeah and whether she's going to be tentative now and worried about getting hit again or whether she's just going to be ferocious because she wants to get it back and she wants to get revenge and to see how rose responds to it because listen if you don't take zhang hueli out like that yeah you're in for a war that fight that she had with juani
and jay check was one of the craziest fights i've ever seen the the back and forth war between zhong wei lee and yuani and jay check was like an all-time classic all-time classic joanna's head was a mess god it was giant like she had a football stuffed under her skin it was crazy yeah yeah there's uh there's nothing like that sport no nothing like it no it's it makes other things seem less entertaining and less they're less intense yeah you know yeah i agree buppo i think's better but he's better well nothing's dying usually in in fighting hopefully not knock on what don't say that cam [ __ ] yeah big card like that madison square garden i'll [ __ ] it up for everybody that'd be terrible that was terrible what is this what does kobe do first of all what's he wearing a little media thing what's colby wearing today look at the both of them they're both wearing amazing [ __ ] look at what does colby have look at what he's got on glue coley's wearing i think it says no virgins on it maybe but it says something to king oh is that bang energy did bang pay for that oh bang might have paid for that rewind that all the way to the beginning give me some volume and let me hear what they're saying [Applause] oh oh camaro pushed him interesting interesting interesting i love that suit look at his suit leopard skin suit come on i think kamara's he's worried [Music] oh he's pointing to his chin when he broke his jaw is that a bang energy drink suit is that really what that is i don't know i feel sad if it is it says virgins on it i think it says no virgins on the arm here well but i don't know about that that's pretty silly as well it's very it's very miami yeah yeah so is he the king of miami is that what he's saying this is cool i think chaos right that might be yes it's a very odd choice
but you know hey you got to make your mark somehow yeah you got to make your mark this is a wild fight i'm uh really curious to see what adjustments both guys make and whether or not kobe can figure out something different this time you know because there was a very close fight i think going into the fifth round um if i remember correctly it might have been two apiece now it was it was three one three one opposite ways and two two oh so three one three one opposite ways yeah so one person at colby ahead three one person had camaro ahead and then one person at an even so that's as close as it gets yeah yeah it's close this is chaos miami colby coming that's a terrible suit oh he's got the 541 at the bottom though that's oregon it says greetings nerds and virgins yeah like this is look at his chain [ __ ] that's so ridiculous it's smart that people are talking people are talking about it the thing about him is like you can get caught up in the hype and think that he's you know he's a joker and it's a lot of show business but yeah that [ __ ] can fight yeah he can fight and his gas tank is second to none yeah the only person that's right there with him is camaro yeah i think those two guys go down as all-time greats and i think if if it wasn't for camaro if camaro didn't exist kobe would 100 be the ufc welterweight champion 100 yeah yeah he's uh he puts a lot on and i have to i could see his point about the momentum getting stopped when he kicked and they called it camaro acted like a nut shot he's saying it was liver let's see what that i i'm trying to remember that i'm trying to remember where it landed colby's saying that that stopped his momentum and he goes you know how fighting is momentum and he landed some shots landed that big shot and then it was stopped so camaro got a 33 second break let's see what that looks like let's see if we can find that because i'm trying to remember i literally don't remember it was where it actually landed
it was on the right on the belt line i think you i think you'll see but um camaro acted like it was low so they gave him a break the belt line's odd right because there's parts of the belt line where you can go below right you can kick the legs on the inside like you can kick the leg right here inside right and that's no problem yeah right and you could also kick right here and that's no problem let's see this think it's right here is it third or the second round what round it was a finger poke too that was an issue yeah no he said he he hit him in the left eye and then he actually got poked in the right eye hmm i don't know about that but right here his body's able to hit him i think we just got to see when camaro gets uh time away right there oh let me see that let me see that let me see that let me see that again hmm see that i don't know about that that was liver that's what no no no that's not liver liver is up here colby's liver is way high this is definitely not liver it's not a chance in hell that's liver it's not it's not a nut shot no is on the belt line it's not a nut shot he it's not a nut shot it's not a nut shot it's a belt shot see it's not liver liver is right here the liver is like this well it got a reaction out of him for for some reason well he might have been thinking it was low enough for him to take a break but it did hit a little bit it definitely hit where it's not supposed to okay it's supposed to hit above the belt line so like we'll watch it right here trying to go slower so you can see but watch it right here yeah the the shin hit the chest area the shin is elevated the knee is up and the foot is down so the lowest point of impact is the toes which are hitting above the nuts everything's above the nuts i think it hurt i mean he needed a i don't know it at well listen clearly everything's above the nuts all of it
yeah i mean maybe he's got a giant dick he probably does maybe his dick got compressed i don't know but it looks there to me like it's a low blow for sure it's definitely below the belt which you're not supposed to hit but it's not on the it's not on the nuts the nuts are below that yeah but it might there's a possibility that the toe hit the cup right where the nuts are they also started fighting the video doesn't stop i guess in 30 seconds later he said he's fine so that was a 30-second break right he sat down though yeah he went over and sat down let's watch this again watch watch what happens let's watch what happens when he kicks them oh they they played a slow-mo too give me some volume on that so i can hear what i have to say see the referee stopped [Applause] [Applause] yeah then what i said now that it does not seem like it hit the cup it seems like it hit the belt line there's me yeah oh what campaigns so they did they did give him a little bit of a break there and colby's got a real argument there yeah and so he thought he had the momentum there because he was hurt i mean it's possible that it shoved the cup into [Applause] yeah it was just fighting up yeah you know there's an argument that that if it wasn't stopped right there for that moment if the referees had keep fighting that kobe would have might have gained an advantage especially when they're looking at 12 to 12 you know two hours two rounds but here's the thing the definitive moment was in the final round when kamara put him away no way camaro slammed that right hand into his chin dropped him and also that kobe went into the round saying that he had a broken jaw incredible that he fought a full round i think he said during the third round that his jaw was broken yeah if i remember that it happened at the end of the third so you got to remember the guy
fought the fourth and he fought the fifth with a [ __ ] broken draw if that's true but then i saw him a recent video where he was uh being interviewed by brett akamoto and he said it wasn't broken no it turns out it was unbroken oh really yeah so he thought it was broken yeah he thought it was but it wasn't interesting when the nevada state athletic commission does that suspension thing what's that based off of did they suspend it for a broken jaw upon further examination generally slight fracture i think is what it said or hairline fracture or something like that i don't know i mean they would have to like look at that boom right hand so this is this is the most important part of the fight because this is a war of attrition and right now camaro has hurt him real bad and colby's just turtled up and camaro stops him and he drops him twice and then stops them and i know colby's protesting but yeah you know it's hard to say when a person should stop a fight so but would you say what if he could have piled on more damage when it stopped with the low blow never know and what what about the ipoke yeah i don't know about the ipoke do we have that one jamie [Music] that was in the third i think the third yeah he landed a couple of big shots and then it was right after the oh you just had it yeah right there oh let's see right before that so watch these shots oh wait hmm i'll go a little further back wait a minute okay we'll see oh head kick kick oh left punch see right there see so easy yeah yeah wrong eye i don't think that was a poke no let me see that again let me see that again [Applause] head kick punch okay paula maybe anything no i don't think so i don't think that was okay so colby had a problem with that one too i think he has a real good point there with that one well i'd like to see that in slow motion let it play let it play because i'm sure we show the replay i'm sure we show the replay give me some volume on this so i can hear what i'm saying so watch this let's take a look at it
[Applause] oh no that went in the eye but i went in the eye 100 but it went in the other eye yeah the left eye that's the one i think play it play it play it real quick well i don't know that one looked like it went in the right eye [Applause] let me see that again let me see that again see that that went in the left eye no question about that one he's holding the left [Applause] but then they're looking at the right so i think a finger went in the left eye too or the right eye too yeah kyle yeah flinches at both but from that angle only one it's his pinky fingers there's not another finger to go into his eye right it happened very fast though so it's so hard but you know if you're looking for some if you're colby and you're looking for instances these are two of them you could be like c yeah but that one looks legit as [ __ ] that looks like the pinkies going right into but what colby says it's left and there then they're looking as right you see the stem yeah i don't know yeah i think you're right [Applause] yeah it looked like it went in the left eye maybe they're examining the right eye as well take a look at it they're actually playing both sides [Applause] no question about that where you are please all right but the head kick was totally see that see that one there it looks like the pinky went in his right eye too it looked like fingers went in his left eye but then the pinky went his right eye that sucks man i really wish there was a way to make the gloves where the fingers where you can grapple but the fingers weren't separated like that what colby's saying is both those instances he had he landed big big shots well yeah let's see what happens yeah let's see what happens and he's saying if it
wouldn't have been for that those two momentum stops then the fifth would have been different could be or not you know yeah who the [ __ ] knows all you have to look at is like how it actually played out yeah and the way it played out camaro stopped him yeah dropped him he heard him yeah and those were the that was the biggest moment of the fight was the fifth round but the real argument to me is not the i poke the ipo cause that one definitely went in that left eye whether or not it went in the right eye or not i don't know but the real moment is that kick the kick is not on the cup it's really right here which is not fun to get kicked right there but it's not the same as getting kicked in the nuts you know and it seemed like especially because the weight is kicking the knee is up high so he's throwing this kick right as he's throwing the kick the knee is up high yeah and the foot is down low it didn't really hit the nuts that's a good argument for him but it is low so maybe he took advantage of the fact that the kick was low and he said let me just take a little time off because i can because he kicked me yeah but it wasn't a liver shot right well the liver is right here when when you see a guy get hit with a left hook to the liver it's right here it's like in the ribs it's like and when you get hit there it's the craziest feeling when you get hit there with a good liver shot like everything just shuts down yeah so that wasn't a liver shot but it was not a cup shot either well yeah it's a [ __ ] awesome fight that's what i'm psyched about they're both in their prime they're pulling it's a little interesting with camaro being aggressive there because it seems like the i don't know if i'm wrong if i'm wrong on this but it seems like the people who are aggressive usually it's doubt well i think for sure he wants uh he wants colby to be emotional so it may not be doubt it might be
strategy it might be like just like he might he might hate him he might want he might just almost not not be able to stop himself i always think of khabib connor you know khabib was always reserved in control never emotional yeah conor was lashing out this is an amazing fight because both guys are really in their prime yeah they're both juggernauts they're both like i don't think i don't see anybody that that can [ __ ] with them in that division right now um comes out shimayev gumshot comes up colby called him [ __ ] shot well that's rude that's rude that guy's really interesting yeah really interesting but he's got a face stiffer competition you know colby's nicknames yes he addre somebody asked him about him about uh comes out today and he called them come shy how dare that that guy seems scary though i'm scared as [ __ ] he's talking to dana picking up yeah talking to what yeah talking to him i come to kill everyone i killed him all right yeah he's a wild [ __ ] he's so good too he's good at everything yeah but we'll see when the competition ramps up exactly yeah exactly like lee jing leon is a tough guy yeah but he's not at that level so and gerald meerscha tough guy not at that level so we're going to get the chance to see him i want to see him against a guy like a leon edwards yeah that's what i'd like to say legit yeah and neil magne has asked for that fight which is also an interesting fight that would be interesting as well i want to see him against a top flight guy neil magney will show you what you are i don't want to see him fight nate diaz i don't really want that the only reason why i would be interested in seeing that is because like diaz will find out if you're for real yeah nate deals like with leon like nate diaz getting losing that fight until the fifth round then cracking yeah leon and having leon in real [ __ ] serious trouble and i guess could you see nate choking comes out out who the [ __ ] knows man nate is a beast yeah he is he is such a
[ __ ] i'm more of a mate fan i would hate to see i don't know i just want to see him win i like when he wins what i like is nate getting paid you know if nate nate gets paid big for that fight if they set up a main event somewhere hamzat and nate for uh a like a title elimination fight i think if every fight went 100 rounds nate would never lose yeah he's only like i like to talk about in the street you wouldn't be yeah he still talks about streets yeah well he'll still fight you in the street yeah that's awesome i love that the only guy was legitimately beating nate is josh thompson josh thompson legitimately stopped nate i mean obviously so did hori mas vidal other people have beaten him don't get me wrong but i mean like shut it off yeah and that was that was josh josh shut him off josh head kicked him josh thompson in his prime was one of the most spectacular fighters on the planet completely well balanced he had great wrestling great submission he became a world champion you know he's he's a legit top of the food chain fighter and he he's the only guy that ever stopped nate diaz that was a you ever seen pull that up crazy fight and you know nate was in his prime and so was josh and but josh you know he a lot of people i mean he's got a great podcast he does too with big john mccarthy they they have uh a great take on things josh went through some [ __ ] wars with gilbert melendez and strikeforce i mean boom right there nobody's beating nate like this that was that was the best beating that you know anybody ever put on nate yeah and then and mike stopped it that's josh yeah that was definitive yeah yeah that's probably you know the finest performance that anybody's had against nate you know obviously conor beat him by decision other guys have beaten him you know rafael dos honjos there's other guys have beaten them but no one's beating them like that yeah no i haven't seen that before that's you know that's the argument about nate but even they did he wasn't out there it was still
conscious i mean yeah that fight kept going he might have recovered look at this though boom i mean it doesn't hit much cleaner than that yeah yeah it's a crazy sport man and this weekend is wild as [ __ ] that gagey chandler fight that is that is gonna be bombs away yeah there is not excited doubt in my mind and i've said this before and i've been wrong so i'm sorry i was that's what i thought when when francis and gano fought derrick lewis i'm like there's not a doubt in my mind and that was a terrible [ __ ] out yeah that was a terrible fight yeah i don't think this is going to be that i don't think i don't think gaiji is capable of having a boring fight and i don't think chandler is capable of having a boring fight no you know we saw that you know francis and derek they played cautious because they were both worried about each other's power with good reason both guys can knock you into another [ __ ] dimension with one shot but so can these guys but i think gaiji fights with such reckless abandon and so intelligent the way he does that like in in the early days he used to like wade into the fire and take shots to give shots but he doesn't do that anymore now he sets things up more intelligently he's got some of the best [ __ ] leg kicks in the business and he chops at your leg from the clinch and then chandler also has a great wrestling pedigree chandler is an excellent wrestler legitimate one-punch knockout power um tremendous experience both in bellator and in the ufc and i'm interested to see how he deals with the kind of pressure that gaichy puts on you he trained chandler trains so hard like a beast like a monster and you've trained with him yeah right where did you trade we chaired him san diego yeah yeah yeah he uh yeah but i mean i still even that was a hard day we we went really hard but i watch him and he looks as in good of shape now as he's ever looked i think he's he's ramped it up even more well you know when a guy has a spectacular ufc debut and knocks out a guy like dan hooker and then loses
um a shot at the interim belt which is like so close to winning too so close to winning the first round i almost had him almost champion almost had him but then that just shows you how good oliveira is yeah oliveira comes back and with a beautiful left hook my god what a perfect punch and there's a difference between someone who shows throws things short and technically where everything's like hands up high everything is perfectly placed chandler is you know a wild [ __ ] bull of a man and he just left himself a little open in that wild reckless attack after giving up his neck yup remember oh i can't believe you got out of that crazy crazy i think we're going to we're going to see some wild [ __ ] and i don't know what's going to happen gagey and chandler together is chaos fireworks it's going to be and that's going to start off the pay-per-view camera my goodness i can't wait my goodness all right cam let's get something to eat let's do it out here starving goodbye ladies and gentlemen of the world we'll see you soon bye bye [Music] [Applause] [Music] you