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[Music] i said we're just going to catch up it's been a year it's been a year yeah and you've been trending on twitter for that entire year [Laughter] it's not my fault just [ __ ] dorks get out of the house losers go pay attention to real life [ __ ] every she's out there torturing puppies you see that [ __ ] i yeah i just watched i agree i didn't read the article i shut up i can't look at puppy torture what are they learning from torturing but pull up the article jamie because people need to know this because i put it up on twitter but this is sick [ __ ] glenn greenwald uh texted me about this and he was kind of explaining that it doesn't help anything there there's no bene there's no benefit to this right he's like this is not something that's saving lives like if you could prove this was saving lives he goes maybe you can make some sort of ethical argument for doing this but it doesn't save lives it's just not yeah it's twisted and i don't understand it bipartisan legislators demand answers from fauci on cruel puppy experiments our investigators show that fauci's nih division shipped part of its part of a 375 800 grant to a lab in tunisia to drug beagles and lock their heads in mesh cages filled with hungry sand flies so that the insects could eat them alive i feel like in a normal society this guy would just be completely retreated from the public by how is this possible how is it possible first of all that now it's been proven the nih has now come out and said yes he lied yes he lied in front of congress about gain of function research they funded gain of function research at the woolhand lab that worked on coronaviruses in the very [ __ ] area where a coronavirus got out and killed four million people with cleavage sites that were inserted into it that seemed to indicate that it's been manipulated like all these indications yeah that were by the way all conspiracies these were all just conspiracies if you even suggested any of this it came from a lab that it was funded all of it is now true and no one says sorry it's how i got
trended on twitter it's one of the one of the ways i got trended on twitter from when brett weinstein was on right was saying this that it seems to indicate this was in april of 2020. brett was saying it seems to indicate that this is a virus that's been manipulated and everyone's like that is a dangerous conspiracy theory and it's racist racist conspiracy theory meanwhile it's actually accurate and it's it's our own government was involved yeah which is the most [ __ ] up thing because as things have been uncovered as josh rogan uncovered it josh rogan played a very big part in this because josh rogan recognized that he was one of the first people and he actually broke it on this podcast that fauci was the one who restarted the game of function research that obama right rightly and smartly had said hey stop doing that [ __ ] the [ __ ] are you doing and so then trump came along the fact like this is important research we need to do we need to try to kill the world oh yeah [ __ ] this is so crazy that this is not like if you go to all these mainstream news places they're not saying this yeah oh yeah how are you not saying this i i they don't understand why they've lost all their credibility and yet they behave as if the internet doesn't exist right well how is cnn not covering this go to the the fouchy story because it is so crazy because when you watch rand paul grill him yeah and he's like with all due respect senator you do not know what you are talking about you do a good impression of him i could do a better one if i listen to him if i listen to him for like 10 minutes i can really get him i i remember that rand paul recently was like someone owes me an apology what are you doing i don't know i'm sorry i'm sorry there was another one um uh in my um it's in my twitter that uh in a shocking turn of events the nih has now admitted which is interesting because if they're admitting that they funded game to function research that means they're turning on that little monster so if they're turning on him that means like we might actually see some progress here and some a real
objective understanding of what's happening in major shift nih admits funding risky virus research in wuhan now this is vanity fair okay super liberal publication so they're doing this that means the tide is turned a spokesperson for dr fauci says he has been entirely truthful but a new letter belatedly acknowledging that the national institute of health support for virus-enhancing research adds more heat to the ongoing debate over whether a lab leak could have sparked the pandemic i'm gonna go out on a limb and say yes it did it seems like that could be the obvious this natural spillover [ __ ] like that you don't have an example there's like there's no science that points to that all the science points to a manipulated virus that came out of the very area where they manipulate viruses like when when jon stewart went on that rant on colbert show and he got cancelled for a minute it didn't even work but i was like yes jon stewart jon stewart is a [ __ ] man yeah he's honest he's brave he he he's not you know he's not that guy that's going to [ __ ] just for the party yeah and just toe the line he's not going to do it thank god thank god there's guys like him i mean yeah i think his i think he's always been pretty good about that but about everything yeah and his new show i think is i haven't watched it but i hear that it's pretty serious if he's involved it's good yeah if he's involved i'm in i just love what he did for all the guys down at ground zero yeah yeah always liked him but i really just respected him a hundred times more when he fought so hard for them he's a national hero john john stewart really is and you know when he's not on the air and then you see him again you appreciate him like god damn it i wish he was back because when he was hosting the daily show the daily show was [ __ ] it was perfect i don't even watch it now i watch it now like this is nonsense like this is a lot of people kind of blame him for the the state of news today though you know
he he did pioneer the form of making jokes out of the news making us doing that now though everybody even the news but they're doing it accidentally thank you anywhere jokes on them yeah no it's it's crazy times i feel i thought i don't know what i thought when we last sat down it was a year ago you just moved here and had things started opening up well i don't even remember they were open yeah they were pretty much open but not whatever it is everybody thought it was really good it's still closed yeah l.a still closed oh well it's it's not close everyone's terrified it's a it is a it's a suicide pact i'm convinced when i was back there a few weeks ago i was like oh my god the the general feeling in the air the tone everyone's scared yeah and crime is off the [ __ ] charts i mean yeah my neighborhood just this last weekend we were opening our door to go film dumpster fire and there's always police helicopters around so we're used to it we often have to like pause because we let we're in such a high class like filming environment and then so there's always like some [ __ ] going down and we had to we were we're used to having to pause for like the helicopters and we walk out in this over the pa it's like get inside your house close your doors and lock them we were like oh [ __ ] and then we hear put your hands put your hands up where you can see them and come out of the building so apparently some guy had started on a local business and then guys chase this one guy out and he was trying to attack people with i don't even know what and then he was jumping from um like yard tiard like ferris bueller only trying to break in and and attack people and so it was like this whole insane i was like what are we doing here this is nuts and that's just my my friend who's on the show she was like oh somebody exposed himself i'm like i don't it's not like a walk with my dog if somebody doesn't expose themself that's just normal they don't they don't arrest people in la anymore no so apparently with this guy we got even more details he had done the same thing a couple weeks ago and attacked somebody i think with a knife and gas gun let them out in six
hours yeah that's what they're doing you know about the guy who got macheted on the beach with his family no a homeless guy who's a [ __ ] psychopath who pulled a knife on a sheriff they arrested him gascon led him back on the street and then he macheted some poor guy with his family on the beach the guy lost his eye oh god cut his face his hand his tongue this guy was swinging a [ __ ] machete at a father in front of his children on the beach yeah it's scary i mean gascon is a scary guy yeah he like embodies all the fears of like the george soros conspiracy theory that george soros is trying to destroy the country and do so with like putting in more and more liberal people like the more progressive like and uh anti-law enforcement completely and then when they get when he gets him into office then he funds someone who's even more to the left and runs them against them yeah no it's it's it's the quality of life has drastically gone down i don't see it improving you know it's not like there's any there doesn't seem to be anything stopping and even i you saw when you left and it's it's even worse i mean we go drive and they're just full tent communities under pretty much every freeway and it's hard because i'm a compassionate person who has empathy and you you seeing this every day you have to start to like turn your heart off a little and i'm also just disgusted at how gross the city looks it looks like [ __ ] it looks like [ __ ] i have a a good friend who's very progressive very liberal and he lives in brentwood he's also wealthy oh brownwood's nuts brentwood is so far [ __ ] right now intense nuts and he's like i can't he's turning he's like red pilling he's like i can't believe this in this incredible expensive neighborhood with this insane real estate like this these like some of the most expensive real estate in la and we've got [ __ ] tents everywhere someone died at that encampment there was a like some homeless person ran into another homeless person at that at that like
right along the veteran place in brentwood you mean headbutted him no with a car took a car and like ran into someone and killed them recently you're homeless but you have a car are you still homeless if you have a van are you still homeless i think they are included in that population what if you have like a camper van are you still homeless i mean i feel like they're still maybe i don't know what if you have one of them i want to know everywhere well because they used to have those strict laws about how you couldn't park and then there were now there are like fires all the time because people in venice are like cooking meth in there it's crazy my friend had to leave venice she was like i couldn't i she was like i didn't realize how just desensitized to the smell of urine and meth i had become this is so bad i went to venice the other day went to felix the restaurant yeah that's my favorite restaurant on earth and uh as we were driving there we passed like literally a hundred of those camper trucks in a row yeah they just they just that's where they live now they just pull on the side of the road and stop their their camper truck yep i went with shellenberger who you recently had on we went down to see the big encampment down in venice and go watch while they were actually they just happened to be cleaning up some of the beaches and then we went down to skid row that day and it was it was i skid row is eye opening because it's always been there but it's huge now it's many many many many blocks and even they were saying that there are now 47 families there aren't supposed to be kids on skid row and the guy was saying they that is as the last count there were 47 families down there and that was like real you could that felt like a real that was interesting because it was all black people down in skid row pretty much 99 and then out on the west side like crazy white people and so we have segregated homelessness weird
it's weird because it felt really like systemic poverty in skid row you know it felt very much like um the system had failed these people and and drastically and no one really freaking cared and in la like out on the west side it felt like a lot of mental illness clearly but a lot of it's just kind of oh god this is gonna sound horrible but it felt like larping you know like i'm gonna go be like a homeless person on the beach and do drugs there just is a vibe of really yeah it's weird because there you can come to la and they'll give you money and you can just do drugs and never get arrested you can go to california just has same in san francisco it's not like you're gonna get arrested if you do they'll put you back on the street there was like a vibe of um i don't know it felt it was like a lifestyle you know it felt more like a lifestyle choice like people because they say why are all these people homeless well a lot of people they don't take the offer to get off of the street they don't want shelter they don't they don't want to give up their drugs that's the big one yeah is that if you go into a lot of these shelters they require you to be clean yeah i mean there's a lot of people trying to get clean in those shelters so it would be very hard if you're surrounded by people who are doing drugs yeah it's one of the dumbest things about austin is that i think they're moving it now but there's a homeless shelter that's right next to sixth street oh okay where everybody's drunk yeah so you're literally one block away from the biggest party street in all of austin and you're like hey time to clean up everybody let's clean up right here we can hear the [ __ ] music blaring that's like that rehab that's right on venice boulevard the one the phoenix or whatever it's like right on the strip i'm like who [ __ ] getting sober in this place you walk out the door and it's like yeah if you're really if your intentions are really just to make money and your intentions are not to make people clean you will have a never-ending supply of people that need rehab if you just go
right to them and they don't have to travel yeah they can just literally shuffle over barefoot and stumble into your rehab that's such an unregulated industry too that you know the like halfway houses or the what are they called now like the sober livings yeah you i could start a sober living if i wanted there's no regulation on this and they're super expensive and people get sent to them obviously parents are worried about their kids they get sent out to la for these fancy rehabs and then they all end up homeless and in venice you know no they a lot of there's just so much churn and they all there's so many people that go out to get sober and clearly don't well the ones that are in malibu are the real fancy schmancy ones right yeah they're the ones where you do yoga yeah you get like massages and how often do they work that's what i wanted when i got sober it was i was 19 the first time i got sober my i remember calling the woman and she i had been in a rehab for a week and then my insurance ran out so i put myself on general assistance this was in minnesota and um went and called this place and this woman answered and i was like hey and i needed to go to an all-female one because like some dude tried to do something with me in the last one so i wanted all women women and people can't see it is it is that that's something you yell on your podcast all the time i always yell it on dumpster fire just because what's the context because they're always saying like birthing people or people with vaginas and i'm like is that crazy can we just say the word lactating people so it was all women and i called and this woman um she's like you ever heard of boot camp and that's that's what it was like it was 40 women and i had to do dish it we had dish duty we had it was very regimented and they kicked our asses it was run pretty much all by lesbians they just kicked our butts they saw they had seen it was mostly women who were avoiding prison and i was like the youngest one there and they had seen every lying shady maneuver and they just saw through all
of our [ __ ] and i those women saved my life wow i never did heroin again i mean i i continued to do a lot of other things but never did heroin again it's incremental steps of of sobriety yeah it's harm reduction get out of the heroin but what did you do after you stopped doing heroin oh man i mean i just celebrated eight years of sobriety last monday actually thank you it's a big deal for me it's a huge deal yeah listen it's awesome yeah it was um uh what year did i meet you we met i remember you were working out your kim kardashian stuff okay so that was 2015 probably yeah around maybe earlier kim kardashian stuff was uh i felt like it was what about if the aliens came down we would have to explain kim kardashian that would be the one no is the one where you got on the stool oh that's no that's the bruce jenner one yeah that was 2 000 i started writing in i think 14 15. yeah that was that's about right whenever the vanity fair cover came out yeah that's when i was like okay because i had seen you do stuff before but then i saw that bit and i was like whoa your shit's take gone to another level at some time in the past couple of years and then you told me to start a podcast yes i did i remember that and it was early and the podcast you know they hadn't like not everyone had a podcast and i'm glad i i listened to you well you're born for it you really are a born podcast you always have a well thought out but controversial opinion you know like that's podcast controversial though it's not to me but it is the most average like americans or average not even americans i don't think i really don't think what you and i talk about is controversial it's controversial to people that only watch cnn and controversial people that don't read and controversial people that don't question narratives they don't go hey why are they trying to vaccinate all the [ __ ] kids right when we know that it's not bad for kids like what is going on here like what is that what are the long-term safety studies on this like what's the negative side of it what's the like when
you say things like that there's so many people that are like oh what does he say and this is a conspiracy theory in the no no no no no no no it's not all these years we've been skeptical pharmaceuticals that's what's crazy to me especially on the left which is where we come from yes all these years yes i mean i had to dial it back on my big pharma skepticism because i was such a hippie for so many years and i ended up being really down that rabbit hole of like big pharma and i worked on weed farms and there's a lot of talk about that kind of thing up up in those environments and then people were saying you know they would point out like well they also develop a lot of other things that help people yeah and because we have we there is competition and it is there there is life-saving vaccines and when i say yeah when i say vaccinate kids i mean for covet 19 no i know clearly but i want to be clear on that yeah so that people don't take this out of context i'm not talking about joe rogan's and anthony my children are fully vaccinated for everything other than covet and they both had kovitz yeah i wrote a piece of making fun of all of the like anti-vaxxers because there's a measles outbreak in la yes so i wrote a satirical piece about anti-vaxxers and people call me an anti-vaxxer for being against the mandates and the vax ports and things like that i'm like not an anti-vaxxer they're they basically compare you to like jenny mccarthy now the crazy thing i know it's really funny but the crazy thing about the vaccine thing is that the mandate in the beginning was dismissed by the white house was dismissed by jen saki the press secretary is dismissed by everyone that is not going to happen that's not possible it's we're not going to do this and then they start implementing it yeah it just it's a slow slippery slope and that's why you got to be very careful of every little piece of ground you give up and when people think i'm hyperbolic when i'm talking about that this is a slow slide into dictatorship it really is what the [ __ ] is happening right now in australia that is essentially a police date how did it happen so quickly because this is how it goes this is how it goes when you have this slow slide
into authoritarianism i am reluctant to give new power to politicians i think it's [ __ ] dangerous yeah because there's they're weasels and they're lazy and they don't think things through and they don't think about the greater good of mankind they think about what's easier for them what's the easiest way for them to impose their mandates making their right right right make the the special interest groups that they you know are really beholden to make those people happy what's the best way yeah there's there's a lot there the australia thing's interesting because i remember being in australia when i was on that cult which we've talked about in past episode episodes there there were when you were in the cult when i got like get stuck on the sex call we talked about it i think i don't want to bore you what episode which one was that the last one it might have been or two ago um yeah so i was there but we were driving around and i remember there were like all these police cameras that just took pictures if you were speeding and it was there was already a little bit of a like police state vibe in parts of australia that i was like huh i didn't expect this coming from australia and when i was going off about australia somebody pushed back and they said you know the the overwhelming population will get in queues and line up and they're actually very a people who will actually listen to rules and follow these orders and they have had low counts and whatever but i still think um it's terrifying it's [ __ ] terrifying it's not it's not just terrifying they don't have any recourse well someone said don't forget because i was like aren't you guys all criminals and it's like yeah but it's also a population of of people who were you know police essentially yeah and so there there's that population down there prison colony and police yeah it's almost interbreeding yeah i don't know it's a it's uh everything feels a little bit out of control and this so to go back to when you when we met i think i was sober already i think it was like newly sober just to circle back to
that and anyone wondering when i actually did get sober sober sober was it when i was 35 so like eight years ago and but it was like a long time coming i from the when i was first in rehab i was 19. and then from 20 to 35 it was like coke and molly and weed and yeah drinking whoo it was well i i i lived my life to the fullest but i probably should have died i mean it's a miracle i didn't die did you ever od so right before i got sober i was doing la tamale at um coachella which sounds as disgusting as you just heard it but wait it gets grosser [Laughter] and um the i was probably dehydrated because i don't think i had any water in like two days and i was like doing molly during the day and doing blow at night and drinking through the whole thing and i was really obsessed with this like blueberry red bull that they had i [ __ ] hate red bull but i was just drinking it with and it was like laced with molly or whatever so that was like and then we were in vip this is why i'm saying it's gonna get grosser guys so bear with me and we're walking and i went down like i just blacked out i was like i looked at my friend and i was like i am [ __ ] rolling and that's the last thing i remember and i just went down like a like just a bowling pin and apparently into some australian chicks of all things and i wake up come too and there's like four cops standing around me and they're like what day is it and i somehow knew it was sunday and i mean you've been to festivals you have no idea what day it is even if you're sober like or what time it is right and i knew what time it was like my brain got a hard reset i really i really think my brain was like we're shutting it down like we need to reset some files we reboot i came to i was like freezing cold
and the australians were like you have the worst friends you have the worst friends the worst friends because they weren't too they were like ah she'll be fine one of my friends is one of my best friends from high school and she and i she was around during the heroin days and we used to go to raves together and do like speed and so we had been through a lot and she was like ah she's taking a disco nap and they were like they called me a desk [Laughter] a disco now [Applause] a disco nap yeah she's taking a disco nap that's a good phrase oh yeah i like that phrase so i came i came to luckily but it was like a bit of a wake-up call and i wasn't young i was like about to be 35 or maybe i already was 35 like it was a little bit old to be blacking out going down and vip like oh just so gross it was so gross i mean pitiful demoralization what the [ __ ] do you present you you're taking a disco nap they're like gosh she's fine let's keep partying then i found a yankees hat and i put it on and that's when i knew it's time to get sober so where did you go did you go to get sober on did you do it on your own yeah i just so i had tried everything like every i mean i was i was the classic like only drink only drink booze only drink alone only drink with friends only i did the whole like marijuana maintenance only smoke weed i got certified in yoga become a yoga instructor i went to therapy literally anything other than 12 step because i had been in 12 step when i was 19 20 that first time and i hated it because i couldn't drink at all and i couldn't do anything and i just i came up with a big you know i i i came up with a big case against 12 step i was like it's fear based and blah blah and all the god stuff and i was off and running and i was out my first husband and i were raging alcoholics we're in the restaurant and i was in the restaurant industry for a long time in my life that industry is riddled with alcoholism and
drugs and partying and so i was just around it too all the time and then um around 35 after that coachella that summer i just got back from traveling around the world for like two years i was very lost i was in la and i didn't know what i was doing anymore i felt confused i went back east worked in a restaurant where i had been and it was like this whole i fell immediately into the rut i was like sleeping with the same douchebags i slept with when i'd been there like seven years before having doing tons of drugs burning bridges with my family and i was coming back to la after just my sister wouldn't let me stay with her and rightfully and i was a mess and i was coming back and i was like i'm gonna cop heroin and kill myself basically i was just so internally it was not necessarily like many of my rock bottoms were actually physical or my first one i lost everything this was more emotional and um yeah i was i went for a hike i went up to like temescal because i was like well before i cop heroin i should maybe pause and go for a hike and sometime on that hike i decided to go to a meeting that night because i'd done an experimental year of sobriety in like 2010. what was it about the hike that i was sweating am i i was like sweating out i was just toxic i could feel how toxic i was i could smell how toxic i was what it smell like uh like chemicals chemicals and blow and probably like baby powder i mean you know like everything just booze and and i had been smoking a lot of weed to try and chemically balance all of it and i ended up getting to the top and something it was like they call it like it was like a window of grace i don't know it was like one small window of willingness i don't i don't know of grace yeah it was like they're they say there are these kind of like opportunities where you can walk through a like door of willingness if you're
you're really at rock bottom and trying to get and i made i've joked about this before i made alcoholism look amazing like i i had a lot of fun i was i was kill i was like from the outside it looked okay it was just internally i felt like i was rotting to the core and i also couldn't really get out of my own way and so i went to a meeting and i didn't even i wasn't like i'm getting sober i just didn't know what else to do and i was miserable i mean i was [ __ ] miserable the first two years of my sobriety but it was better than feeling like i wanted to kill myself and so i just kept walking through it and doing what they told me to do they're like get a stupid job so i was waiting tables and like why they said you get a stupid job they're just you know a lot of times you have this kind of idea of being a big shot or not that i did at all i was still waiting tables and like broke all the time but it's really just this idea of like being a worker among workers like put yourself in a get a day job so you can pay your bills and not be dependent and struggling and put yourself in uh because sometimes it's like people who come from you know finance or whatever they were big shots and then they kind of lose everything and so then they tell them to get a job everyone knows themselves well yeah and just for just for consistency and to be responsible and to have to show up and i mean i really realized i started drinking when i was 12. and pretty holy [ __ ] alcoholically by the time i was 15. and i were [ __ ] 12. yeah i was young i mean nobody was paying attention yet no and my parents got divorced right around that age and um yeah i started i was off to the races and then it was just by the time i was 19 i was in it it made a lot of sense and i was in rehab for heroin and then got off that but that kind of not being i use that as an excuse to be like oh i'm not an addict because i'm not doing heroin anymore so i use that to stay out for a long time as an excuse of like
well as long as i'm not doing heroin because anyone would get addicted to that and so yeah i mean it was a long long journey to sobriety and then i i was very miserable and somehow and then around two years like the rubber just started meeting the road i got my first column at playboy i sold my first um freelance writing piece i started doing you have so much energy when you get sober for somebody like me who is wasting a lot of it just drinking and partying that i just had to do a lot of different things and i couldn't really deny that my quality of life improving drastically and starting to do things that i'd always wanted to do like be a paid writer it didn't seem like an accident that it was a couple of years after i had been sober that these things started happening and so while it was happening did you follow any protocol did you like did you follow any advice from books i was in 12-step like full-on and in but what what what didn't you like about that what didn't you like about the 12-step when i first left the 12 steps or just when i was just in general um well i have you know i had a lot of reason to think that abstinence isn't the only way which they found isn't for everybody uh it is for me because there's no middle ground with subs i i started smoking cigarettes in sobriety this is a perfect example of how there's like no mid-ground and i was so mad because i quit everything and i started smoking cigarettes in 2015 and i was i had one cigarette at a meeting and i was like all right i'll have a cigarette and then i was just off to the [ __ ] races smoking pack a day within like weeks i'm like if this is any example of what i'll be like with booze or anything i just know there's no i do not some people can be moderate they have that ability and i envy the [ __ ] out of it so there's a difference between people who are alcoholics like they have a genetic propensity to alcoholism and then people who just get in these bad ruts right i think i have my grandfather was an
alcoholic i come from a long line of very high functioning alcoholics or maybe not even high functioning what is your nationality um i'm french italian and irish but i'm mostly irish [ __ ] irish yeah that's a problem yeah yeah and my family made it look it was like a uh our culture my grandfather on my father's side who was the irishman okay that's where i'm one-quarter irish my grandfather on my father's side came from ireland he was a drunk okay yeah yeah i just i i tried everything i tried everything too it wasn't like i was 20 anymore i was 35 and i tried everything so i and it was just easier at that point it's it was the when i was trying to be moderate like i'm just gonna have a glass of wine i'm just gonna have two glasses of wine the amount of energy that it takes me to do that it's just a waste of energy i actually am glad that i have an addiction that i can just remove because so many people with like behavioral addictions that shit's hard so explain to me like what it's like so you say i'm just gonna have a glass of wine and then when you have that glass of wine like what happens i don't shark eyes it's like i'm like a gremlin i don't two you pour it's like pouring water on a gremlin i think it's when you feed them after midnight there's whatever it is when you pour water on they multiply but when you it's also [Laughter] when you feed them after midnight i mean i i don't know how i lived through all those years truly i i do feel like serial killers are sleeping on the job through most of the like early odds i don't know how i i was so reckless and it's dangerous as a woman i don't i don't really know how i made it there's a lot of people out there living like that though oh [ __ ] i mean because there's so many people that lack structure and discipline and guidance and then you add in the propensity to alcoholism that many people have and then you add in the fact that i mean come on what percentage of people go out and have a few drinks yeah a huge percentage like what percentage of people that work all day long and then
the weekend rolls around and they get together with friends from the office they go let's go have a few drinks guys [ __ ] 65 75 percent though but did you see the numbers during covet of like alcoholism it's crazy people were just day drinking all day long we played a video of this guy who was jogging through his neighborhood who was pointing out the recyclables oh yeah people did you ever see that video i did see that it's like what the [ __ ] is going on this guy's like everybody's getting drunk yeah yeah i ju i mean i think that yeah i would have one drink or say i was gonna i mean here's a perfect example one time i went out to my local this was when i was living in l.a and i was like i'm just gonna have one margarita and we went to this local place my friends and i and the next thing i remember i woke up and had like permanent marker written on my face and there was some dude sleeping in my place and i mean it was and like my friend was there passed out too but i was like what happened what was the marker on your face i don't even remember what it said it said something i can't remember even what it said it wasn't like [ __ ] or anything i that happened when i was much younger that happened to me when i was in high school and my mom had to pick me up and it was mother's day and someone had written [ __ ] on my forehead in permanent marker yeah i mean that should have been a sign to my mom and maybe things were going off the rails hey mom maybe you don't deserve an award maybe you don't get a card you're gonna do better mom you [ __ ] up mom yeah should have been there yeah no that it just i think that there's there's so much to all of it that's my story is not original there's a lot i think there's an there's a piece that i've been wanting to write for like years about how um i regret being a [ __ ] like there and i don't want to slut-shame myself or anyone but i really was like hyper-sexual for many
of my years and i thought that i could kind of sleep my way to empowerment and it was such a lie that i told myself and i see young women struggling with a lot of this stuff now what do you mean by sleeping your way to empowerment like there's this whole message of like you can kind of [ __ ] whoever you want and like it's you know having sex like men get to do it and women can do it too and i just i i think that the the shame that i came into sobriety with so much of it was around my sexual history and sexual life and i think about how little self-esteem and self-worth i mean that was really what it got down to when i really started drilling down and what i still wrestle with to a certain extent is just a feeling of it's way better but at the core of it is worthless and um did that but that has to come from childhood right um i shouldn't say has to i mean i think it's maybe starts there but i don't i don't know a lot of it became choices that i was making that reinforced that idea so maybe there's some stuff from childhood that you feel worthless for whatever reason and i think being raised catholic doesn't help always no but i mean if you're being ignored to the extent that you're drinking at 12 and you're becoming a full-blown alcoholic at 15 clearly you're not getting the attention you need yeah kids need a certain amount of mentorship they need a certain amount of independence and freedom but they need a certain amount of love and attention yeah just they just need it i think we just had we i had a my dad traveled a lot they got divorced so there wasn't a real strong male figure in my life and i think women do get a lot of that kind of self esteem and from their father or the ma a good male figure in their life kind of telling them that they're they're and whim and from their mothers too but really i don't know it seems like it does come from the male role model in their life and then my mom married my step-dad and that was
a [ __ ] show it was just like um he was mentally ill and oh god i never talked about any of this it was um yeah it was uh it was a lot it was like in and out of mental institutions and we never knew what we were coming home to and a lot of craziness and um she was caught up with him you know trying to deal with him and his uh he took on a lot he took on five kids i'm the oldest of five he was young when they got married i don't which should have been the first time that he was crazy [Laughter] truly um but yeah that was and i think that everyone in the family suffered you know everyone no one really came out of that environment unscathed um but we all i my siblings and i are all super close and we have supported one another and i'm like amazed at the lives they've built we always joke we're like we did a horrible job raising our parents [Laughter] we did a really bad job raising them but we did i mean i think yeah probably raising yourself isn't a great thing for a teenage girl and then i i was i was such a good kid i was like straight a student i was like a child i was sorry you were in alcohol no i mean up to a certain point it started falling apart but we moved every year and a half i managed to keep straight a's and i was i was like on that fast track to harvard i wanted to go to an ivy league school and shh [ __ ] gets hard when you're that's what i feel like people sometimes don't understand and a lot of people kind of in in the like elite media don't seem to understand this if you're worried about your food or your parents or some [ __ ] going on at home it gets hard to like pay attention to your homework and care about these things if your family system is out of control and you're not and there's a lot of children in these kinds of environments and well i'm i'm concerned about the state of these institutions across the board anyway and but for sure it's really hard for people
to sustain that sort of a any kind of an education schedule yeah and it starts to seem petty yeah like you're like oh my stepdad threatened to like kill himself and it's in a mental ward and like i'm supposed to give a [ __ ] about my math homework it just seems stupid and my mom is like falling apart so yeah it just wasn't um it became less of a priority and then i didn't have anybody on me but then because of that i i felt like it was my fault and in some ways it was and i started using drugs and alcohol to cope with just that environment and i gave up on myself at like a very young age and this is one of the things that i talk to a lot of teenagers and young 20 year olds and they have had challenges or been derailed from what they thought they were going to do and they're like well i'm 23 so i guess my life is over i'm like you're so young i want to shake you and tell you all if you are in your 20s but i know that feeling i felt that way when i was 19 and in rehab like i just [ __ ] up my whole life and even though i was 19 and could have easily gone back to college and got a degree and had plenty of time i was so disappointed in myself and i could not forgive myself for that or get over that disappointment and then you just start burying yourself in more uh shame shame is strong man shame is shame will keep you in a cycle for ever yeah yeah and not having anything to boost your self-esteem right you didn't have anything that you were really particularly good at that you could go to and invest all your time and energy into that i mean i might have but it was and that's like a kind of when you say you might have i i think that i was really into the arts and yeah it's it's right but you weren't getting feedback right you weren't doing it no i was being successful right the one person who was supportive was my stepdad and he it was like it was not good right you always say it got weird yeah the r it's like what do you mean by the arts i
mean i was acting and i was like wanted to be a writer and was very into all that stuff and i was going to film school for a minute after i got out of rehab and i really loved all that and i think had i had some support even when i got out of rehab that i could have continued that but um yeah i think if you don't have the you need support from people and you need encouragement like you said and then i that's one of the reasons though that i do value my self-esteem so much because it's been built like brick by brick from scratch on my own and you're such a good friend i mean you really you do notice when i'm like not in a good place and you'll reach out and be like are you okay why are you doing it you're tweeting some weird things i know you're waves you know and i love you so when things are weird with you uh there's i mean there are times where it gets it's definitely it's it's i'm competing against people who had what i wanted what do you mean and even in like the the thinks piece and even in the space of like the writers and the people who are writing these columns and sub stacks and all these things not so much in comedy but in in the writing world it's like all academics and people who generally went to colleges and they seemed like they had loving parents and support yeah and i sometimes feel like i don't belong in that world you know i have like imposters that's crazy you can't think like that you uh you're a brilliant writer and you write really interesting [ __ ] and it's funny and it's it's insightful and i don't think you can think about what other people are doing i don't think you should compare yourself to them people i don't think you should ever say you know i'm competing with them well it's like i feel like i i don't have the like pedigree to be in the nonsense in the space neither did bukowski like some of the best writers ever were just interesting people i'm just being honest i understand what you're saying but i think that's a it's a bad pattern to uh to to nurse in
your head yeah don't i i don't nurse it i'm just being honest about when you sense those moments those cycles it's me feeling like imposter syndrome like what am i doing imposter syndrome never goes away kid i have it still really yeah for what everything everything everything else everything i used to have when i fought i used to have it when uh you know like i have it with comedy i have it with podcasting i have it with ufc i have with everything that's fascinating to me it's part of being a person who is ruthlessly introspective and is constantly analyzing the work that you do and constantly trying to fix it and make it better and and doing a lot of self-auditing like my own everything with everything i do i mean that's part of it too is i'm just very hard on myself not even i'm competing mostly with myself that's why you're good that's just that's part of the the thing the sooner you realize that that we all do that the better off you'll be i was laughing so hard though you were checking on me once when i was tweeting about i was like i just googled how to get rid of my jowls and you're like are you okay i'm like well now i really feel like a loser like nothing will make you feel like a loser like i'm not okay clearly i'm googling how to get rid of my jowls but it i i'm also honest about i'm i try to be very honest about those struggles because i know i'm not alone i know so many people yeah we're not alone no no one's alone yeah i can't project like that i just don't have i said i sometimes look at the confidence that you have people who i'm like where do you get this i it's a different thing it's not necessarily like like people think of confidence as being like there's no it's almost like if you have a pie chart right and how much of you believes you can do it if it's ever 100 you're a psychopath it's not a hundred
it's there's a lot going on on that pie chart right the thing is like what do you concentrate on yeah i concentrate on the process yeah how much work i've done like the thing that gives me confidence before i do a stand-up show or anything is that i put in the work right that's the thing that gives me confidence i've done a lot of practice shows you know that i constantly work in town before i do these arena shows i constantly go over my notes i don't just wing it yeah like i and if i don't do that then i will then i will really feel like a piece of [ __ ] right cause i'm like you have all these opportunities and then you're not putting in the work right right you're half-assing this you can't have that so as long as i don't half-ass it then i know i can do it but i it still feels crazy yeah everything feels crazy oh everything from the success of the podcast to going on stage in front of [ __ ] 16 000 people i think it feels [ __ ] insane it doesn't feel real that's amazing though right before i do it i'm like this can't be real i love seeing those videos i love so bizarre i know but it's it's so exciting because you're i actually think you're a good person and you deserve your success and i know you work very hard for you're one of the hardest working people i know and you're dedicated to your process and you're not just full of [ __ ] you know there there's there's like this the one of the jokes i used to always tell is about how in the secret the guy is like you know and i just had this idea for a book and then i envisioned the checks coming in the mail and the checks just showed up and i'm like yeah you wrote the [ __ ] book in between that that's like where most people get tripped up is doing that work and setting those habits and being hard on yourself and working out and being diligent and having some talent too you know there's a lot of people out there that are just whatever it is their brain just doesn't fit the square peg into the square hole it's just like earth earth they just you know there's some people that just don't get you have to have some kind of talent but that secret thing used to drive me [ __ ] crazy
it used to drive me so mental this is a sad story it's not sad but it's kind of sad there was a girl who used to come to the commerce store she was very nice i think she was a friend of kelly kirsten's and so she uh she came around we were all hanging out and uh it was like a normal night everything was normal you know wasn't anything crazy i don't even think she was drunk and she goes i'm so happy and i go okay why are you happy and she goes because i know that i am going to have the perfect career i know that i'm going to be in the perfect relationship and i know that everything's going to work out and i said how do you know that and she goes i know because i've been reading the secret oh god and and i just like it was like the record skip yeah oh you poor kid she was so nice though like i didn't have the heart to tell her you know i didn't i didn't want to dash her dreams it was one of the rare moments where i didn't feel like dashing someone's dream so i remember saying well good luck and because i had a friend of mine who's into that too he was like he was a musician and he was envisioning himself in front of twenty five thousand people rock he had all these ideas no it didn't work it doesn't work like i this is what i so this is a story so this but i'm telling you this girl was like locked in she believed and so i didn't see her for a good solid year and a half maybe more and then the next time i saw her was at the ucb and i was outside and i was about to go in i ran into her she's coming to the show hey what's up how you doing how's it been and she's like it's just not going like i thought it was going to go like i'm not everything's not go i go the last time i talk to you you're telling me about the secret and all that stuff and she goes yeah i don't know why but it's just not working my father's an [ __ ] and i can't you know that my job is not working i can't get the career i wanted and i still didn't have the heart to
tell her she was nice and she's a little knife but my perspective on these things is always you can't listen to someone who succeeded and say that the reason why they did it is because they believed and then they had a vision and they manifested it through the the power of attraction the law of attraction that's not real when you're only talking to winners if you could talk to everyone who had a dream like acting is the best example right because acting is probably the number one most failed at careers especially in hollywood which one of the weirder things about living in los angeles is that whether you know it or not you're around failed actors like there's a lot of my wife's former friends like that you know you would dig below the surface and then you'd find oh they came out here to be an actor right and i think there's this false sense that you can make it because the like the opposite of that is that you're always surrounded by people who have made it yeah so there's you're always surrounded by failed actors but as these actors who are trying to make it they know someone who knows someone who did or they're they're friends with someone who's making it and so there's this false idea that you know everybody can and then what [ __ ] it up even worse is reality shows because then you didn't even have to have talent then there's this injection of new possibility just you could make it for no [ __ ] reason whatsoever yeah it was almost like a magic trick like all of a sudden like we found a hack to the system you got the cheat code you got the god code and now you can run through the video game without getting shot like what you don't even have to have talent no auditions at all no auditions at all i mean you audition i think you just smack people in the face on tv and spill wine over someone's head and next thing you know you're a [ __ ] star baby they they not only audition you they psychologically profile you oh yeah they want you to be crazy yeah i've gone through these i have yeah i'm sure yeah i was going to be on the real world when i was like 23. i made it all the way to the final round thank god i didn't thank god you didn't i would be dead you'd be fine theo vaughn made it through so my
my point about it was that like these people that think that just because someone is successful and they'll tell you what i did was i put a photograph on the i sound like the rock i put a photograph on the wall of me walking the red carpet i took a photo of a house that's going to be my home on the top of a hill like they have all these ideas like vision boards yeah vision boards but what's going on is these are people that did all the right things and also had a vision right but they did all the right things and luck and luck luck is a big it's a big factor and not having bad luck even if you don't have good luck not even not getting hit by a car while you're jogging yeah you know there's there's a lot of [ __ ] that goes wrong with people that's just bad luck yeah so it's not just good luck has to happen bad luck has to not happen yeah so if you're talking to these [ __ ] [ __ ] that are like i've got my own jet and the reason why is because i used the power of positive attraction the law of attraction led me to victory and i can help you yeah like those people are [ __ ] yeah because you're telling people that there's a simple solution to one of the most complex nuanced problems trying to be successful in this open-ended world of possibilities yeah especially in something that is re like has a very small percentage of people that are actually successful yeah yeah yeah very small very small it's almost like you know there's this narrative that stand-up comedy is one of the most difficult jobs in all of show business but i almost want to say it's not and this is why because at least you get a chance to try and practice it's one of the rare art forms where you you may not make any money at it for a long time but there's opportunities at open mic nights where you can practice right and you get to communicate with other comics like one of the things about comics i find is that generally the nice ones the good ones are willing to talk to people that are on the way up and give them advice because it's so hard you're one of the few i don't think you think so joe you have the benefit of everyone treating you like
joe rogan so i'm not sure you always see like how people treat other people i don't know that everybody is like that you know i i think you're one of the few i don't i don't there are many there are some but i don't i don't know that that's common i think it's i think for sure i do it a lot and i do it on purpose but i think it's rubbed off on a lot of people too and i know a lot of other comics that i'm friends with that do it as well yeah so i'm speaking out of my circle like my yeah yeah my circle of friends are very good at it like ari shafir is amazing he's amazing he's amazing yeah he was just posting this incredible bit of shane gillis's it's on his instagram right now yep and he's so supportive of my favorite comedian adrian apollucci in the entire world and he's a huge fan of hers and has she always talks about just how great he is and how great he's been and she is truly truly one of the funniest people out there right now yes she's really really funny just v i mean she does there's no hits every third rail it's crazy no she's wild and ari is a giant supporter of her um mark normand he's a giant supporter he's a ari he he took the torch he really did yeah he followed that example i agree yeah he has great instincts as far as like supporting the art um but you can be an amateur and make it yeah you can do it like i think it's probably the path is clearer for that than it is for acting oh god acting's acting so hard this but it's so crazy because you get chosen you have to that's why they all have no opinions that's what i love about standup is no one can stop you right you know what's stopping you from getting up and trying things out and there's no gatekeepers really at all right and with acting there's still a lot of gatekeeping that goes on if you're funny like i was having this conversation with ali wong and she agreed we were like i think it's a meritocracy like it's one of the rare meritocrats like if you're a killer if you go out there and just [ __ ] murder people like holy [ __ ] they want to use you yeah and they want you to do more shows because the audience loves you and
they want to when are you going to be here again and they want to bring their friends that's a meritocracy yeah yeah really in in some ways it's not pure right this clearly people get ahead when they shouldn't because they're friends with people or they schmooze or yeah i mean i also do being that um i mean speaking of ali wong i love her so much because especially with like her specials fully pregnant i'm like oh my god two of them two of us [ __ ] a lot just two of them up there just it's like how do you time that i wonder if she did the second one on purpose after the the first one was so successful being pregnant but i do being that i'm pregnant [Laughter] i was like in that first um i'm announcing this right now nobody knows nobody knows now you've just told the world yes instead of a gender reveal party i'm gonna and i'm burning down california i'm gonna do a gender reveal podcast yeah just just spray pink flammable fluid everywhere it's a girl um yeah being that in that first trimester i was like oh this is why there aren't women in everything not as many women you know when you talk about it and i was thinking about just doing comedy i'm like oh my god how did ally and all these other women who have done this and when you're feeling sick and hormonal and you wanna you wanna get on stage and cry and you're actually just like you're i i was like that i don't know how women do it ever anything and have other kids that they have to deal with when they're feeling sick and working yeah yeah it's i mean women are bad asses well if men just had to wait if men just had to work carrying a [ __ ] 45 pound backpack you know i mean if every if you had a regular job right and now you have to do the regular job with a 45 pound backpack yeah then you would realize like oh my god this is crazy yeah it makes me realize why uh there it's in particular just like comedy it still is predominantly male i think still well i think women have a really
good shot at it if they're funny because there's not that many of them but if they do decide to have a family then it gets much more complicated yeah much much more complicated yeah how are you gonna tour how you tour and taking care of the babies you know i've one thing that i've seen people do that's kind of interesting is like male and female comics get together and they have a baby and then they decide like okay you go out this weekend like tom and christina yeah i remember seeing christina for the comedy store right after she had a baby and she was freaking hilarious she had she's like i haven't left my house i'm losing my [ __ ] mind there's no there's a woman losing it she's [ __ ] funny i know i love her i love them both i love them both too i worked with tom last night he was on the show with dave and i okay donnell and uh jeff ross it was it was amazing but christine is one of the best comics alive yeah she's hilarious she's so insightful she's hilarious on her podcast too oh yeah yeah yeah i just love them she's awesome she's gotta she's got insight yeah she sees things yeah like she points things out and also like she doesn't tolerate any nonsense no she's a no-nonsense person like you know like people like she sends me some hilarious [ __ ] like memes and stuff or stories and news like what the [ __ ] is this you know yeah she's you know she came from these old school european parents yeah you know they're the best yeah like the hard working people that just they raise you like that she doesn't there's no nonsense in her i think it makes you a good parent though too it's like you because you're not tolerating as much yeah you know but i do want to shout out the very small business that made this sweatshirt for me squid print dgt they're direct to garment printing i love small businesses as you know and i should give them credit because they are amazing well i'm on the side of the government i'd like all small businesses to fold and target to take over they're getting crushed by inflation and the supply she was talking the other day it cost her ten thousand dollars in two months between the inflation and the supply stuff and the pandemic and the shutdown
let me ask you because you probably are aware of this what the [ __ ] is going on like what is this supply chain problem why are there so many boats off the coast of california because someone told me it's a half a million cargo ships yeah off the coast of california a friend of mine i'm not sure what the numbers are and the i know that there was a great thread that i retweeted the other day a guy went in and was like here's what's actually going on and i know a lot of it well one of the biggest problems is the bottleneck is zoning it has something to do with containers and they can't stack the containers and um i do think there's a trucking problem as well part of it being that they did that you know the whole pro act thing not pro act i guess it was the ab5 which we've talked about before when they that affected truckers as independent contractors so it was about categorizing independent contractors as workers basically so if you worked a certain number of hours you needed to be considered brought on as an employee and it made it very hard for people to hire anybody if you are a corporation because you couldn't hire independent contractors there it was such a bad law bill they had to do carve-outs for basically everyone they should have just repealed it it was horrible it's the one that woman lorena gonzalez who was like [ __ ] elon musk on twitter and then he left but she's the one woman this she's like an assembly woman in california and she's behind this bill ab5 she said [ __ ] elon musk yeah and twitter and then she left what do you mean and then he left i mean he's left california with all of his business yeah and so i mean i guess we know how that worked out um but so she i doubt he left because of her no i'm kidding um i was just it was like one of those how how it lino like how it's how it was how it's been how it's going it's like her and now he's like i'm out of here yeah and she it affected you because of writing well then they did i think they
did another carve out but yeah you people couldn't hire me because i couldn't 1099 then they would have had to put me if you write a certain number of articles it affected everybody and hairdressers people who really needed to be independent contractors the problem i have with this push against independent contractors and now proact which is the federal version of this which they keep trying to push through is that people like to be independent contractors they act like they're being forced into this right this agreement when many people like to be able to choose when they want to work or when they want to drive so this was really brought about because of uber and lyft and they were saying that they were abusing them and they needed to put bring them on and post mates and obviously many of these companies do take advantage of this situation and they do you know you will hear from an uber driver how much they they're getting screwed yeah so i think there needs to be something but i don't think that me the whole concept of uber is that you aren't an employee like there's there's certainly room for independent operators in in a host of different jobs and when you over regulate like that when you think you're helping people out and you wind up hurting people they have to change the law like why don't they repeal it i don't know it was it started a lot of people a lot of people i knew left california before the pandemic because of ab5 single mothers many people who were affected by it it affected people who were working people with disabilities who are able to be independent contractors i mean a lot of people have side gigs for that reason and now because they can save money for college for their kids or whatever and they don't they don't want to go work for eight hours on and have to clock in obviously and it just it's something that's very infuriating so that is why so that that isn't there something also that has to do with the age of the trucks like didn't they pass a regulation say that trucks can only be assigned oh i don't know anything about that i mean i know it seems to be like a
confluence of [ __ ] that's causing this and but mostly in california mostly in california in florida they just opened up their ports and ron desantis was on tv basically saying come on over right come on over and over everybody you're gonna go through the panama canal i mean i don't even know what that would cost well he wants to change the way people ship to ship through florida instead and saying listen it's it's available and then also he's also giving five thousand dollars to every police officer that relocates to florida yeah i saw that isn't that wild because they're good they're firing all these [ __ ] cops and he's saying not only will i hire you but i'll give you five thousand dollars and i think he was being misrepresented because they were saying he was like only the unvaccinated but he was making the offer to anybody in law enforcement a police officer not just the unvaccinated ones just on twitter they were saying oh like he there was he was being misrepresented obviously by like news organizations like desantis you know says he will give like five thousand dollars to the unvaccinated police officers but it's like th he'll give it to anybody who wants to come right well the the conceit is that most of these people that are getting fired are unvaccinated so the back to the shipping i'm not an expert in this there's there's many people who i it's shocking actually how little um information that you can get but this one guy who just like has a business when went and rented a boat and like talked to people for hours about what the problem was and within hours of him doing this thread that went viral um they had relaxed the zoning laws in long beach to help with this bottleneck which is part of the problem and oh yes thank you yesterday i rented the lying threat and took the leader of flexport's partners in long beach for a three hour of the i guess that tour three-hour tour of the port complex here's a thread about what i learned so everyone should read that and it's really fascinating give me a little bit of it says uh first off the boat captain
said we were the first company to ever rent his boat to tour the port see how everything was working up close as usual business is doing the memorial services at sea he said okay the ports of la long beach are at a standstill in a full three-hour loop through the port complex passing every single terminal we saw less than a dozen containers get unloaded there are hundreds of cranes i counted only seven that we were even operating and those that were seemed to be going pretty slow it seemed that everyone now agrees the bottleneck yard is yard space at the container terminals the terminals are simply overflowing with containers which means they no longer have space to take in new containers either from ships or land it's a true traffic jam right now if you have a chassis with no empty container on it you can uh by the way this guy's name is types fast on twitter his name is ryan peterson and his handle is types fast you can go pick up containers at any port terminal however if you have an empty container on that chassis they are not allowing you to return it except on highly on a highly restricted basis uh if you can't get the empty off the chassis you don't have a chassis to go pick up the next container and if nobody goes to pick up the next container the port remains jammed i mean it's crazy he he goes on and on what's crazy is that pete buddha judge during this whole time is on paternity leave and you just want to go listen man i understand it's hard to raise a child but um isn't that supposed to be for the person who gave birth it's crazy yeah now over 70 ships containing 500 000 containers are waiting off shore 500 but he was saying this like this negative feedback loop that is rapidly cycling out of control that if it continues on a beta will destroy the global economy i'm like that's a nice one to just slide in there oh cool yeah um so it's complicated but i do know the trucking stuff has something to do with it too because there was already problems with truckers they kind of abandoned california what does that look like two years ago this is a visualization of like the data they used so we're watching trucks this is a
couple of couple ships just a couple ships this is 2019 last week why are there so many because they're all i mean this is why oh that's why yeah because they're stuck yeah they're all floating around out here waiting to find space to come into there to go wait and they can kind of get in there like you said if there's only seven out of hundreds of cranes emptying them then they're waiting it's nuts it's nuts and that's why you can't buy toys and it's also affecting small businesses yeah you know it's just that it definitely feels like a [ __ ] but who's responsible is this like people are blaming pete buddha judge because of the the fact that he's on paternity leave they're saying he's the secretary of transportation does that make any sense um i'm not sure i mean that that was a weird one because i never know in those stories it's like uh is this just like a partisan thing where you just want to like yell at the guy because but it is kind of crazy it is the craziest thing to me was the picture of them in the [ __ ] hospital bed yeah that's where i was like like it's just like you didn't you weren't in a hospital i mean maybe i don't know if they were there for the surgery for the birth maybe the the the you know surrogate was but it wasn't but it's on them they were in the house they're they were on the bed where women give birth yeah it was like a birthing table yeah see that is that's what's weird yeah that was a little bit of much for me but it's like here but here's the thing one of you should do that one of you should take care of the children like this idea that both parents should get maternity and paternity leave at the same time is a little weird i don't think so i don't i don't only because i have a german cousin and they get the [ __ ] i mean they get like a full year for the woman and nine months for the husband that's great you want to live in germany because in america you got to work like here's the thing if you have a small business you're the one who loves small businesses okay right
imagine no if you have an employee imagine if you have an employee and this is your like your [ __ ] ceo of your little company or whatever and they uh they're the wife has a baby and the husband's like i'm taking four months off you're like what the [ __ ] are you talking about i need paternity leave like he's been off since august that's crazy yeah i mean i i think thank you i don't live in germany i'm not it's interesting it is it's interesting i what boggles my mind is why conservatives aren't all over maternity leave like that seems like a no-brainer for the the conservative side because they want business they want businesses to operate right but you still if you're if everybody should be in support of like a woman shouldn't have to lose her job if she has baby if you're going to be supportive of women having children and you want women are to encourage women to have children you have to give them some support in the aftermath of giving birth to a [ __ ] baby i i agree i agree as a like a social thing and as for society for our culture for community for the baby however if you're running a business and then you have to pay someone they're not there because they decided to have a baby this is the reason why men are more likely to get hired for certain roles because they're worried men can have babies joe uh sure women i mean like right i'm not in this is again this is not my argument i'm not for this but what i'm saying is if you're a person who is looking to hire someone for a job and you're hiring a woman who is trying to get pregnant and then you're gonna have to pay her but you still need the job done but now you're paying her and she's not there like unless this is some sort of a national program right where our tax dollars go in germany it is it is now that's my point right that's my point so this is the difference when you're talk well with pete butterjudge i mean i don't know what his deal is but i don't know if he has anything to do with the shipping issue but what i had read was that like how was he you know and again this is from hardcore republicans
that were tweeting this stuff and writing these kind of articles i'm skeptical but my thing is like you didn't give birth right like you you're on i know you but should the dad be able to take off work too like again the dad should have a role in raising the child but it is a situation where like what is what's the the right protocol like should a dad be able to take off three months to take care of them google gives paternity leave like three months first of all they've got more money than god those crazy fun but i mean just about like the baby the mom needs support and in the aftermath of giving birth 100 it's not just like to bond with a kid i think a lot of mothers need i i don't know we you know some so much of this is just a question of um it feels like we don't have the same social cohesion and family structures that we used to have where you would be living close to your family and family would help you take care of the baby and they come over and your mother-in-law and you had all this support and now people who are living in cities and working for these massive corporations and massive corporations all this makes sense to me right but when you're dealing with like this is my business when things get weird it's like okay small business okay but then what if it's someone has a significant role like a really important role in like government or a really important role in in in something that's very important i'm just thinking even from my own personal circumstance if my right-hand woman maggie who's like my co-producer on everything and works for me what if she wanted you to pay her if she had to take off i'd be [ __ ] what if she wanted you to pay her i would i mean i want to be supportive but i would be how many months how many months would you give her free money i i mean i don't know i know see i promise this is it that's the thing because so i'm i'm so i think you and i are very similar in that we come from the left and i'm i think people need support i'm i'm still such a bleeding heart lefty but i'm also a small business owner and no many small
business owners and you're also a realist and i'm also a realist and i see the damage of giving away free money and beloved camifornia and know that that doesn't always work out the way you want like the love under unintended consequences is very real and so i'm i don't know but on a personal level i want to support women having kids and i want to make it so that they don't feel worried about losing their job and can spend those early months just doting on their child and i i think the family system nurturing their child and i think that the that is one of the things that's lacking in our country right now is that you know family court structure yeah and how can i be supportive of that if if i'm not supportive of something like maternity well the reality is that raising a child is a job right a [ __ ] huge job it is a job station home moms don't get enough credit okay so the idea that you're supposed to be able to have a full-time job as well as have that job and neither one is gonna suffer it's crazy that's crazy yeah it's not it's not real but that we've we've been sold this and i think part of it is because we don't value things that don't produce tangible monetary results right right so we don't think of anything that's like this is america you got to work it's like also this is america where we love each other yeah right it should be both things like you should understand that like a woman's job of raising a child is a hugely significant job and just because it doesn't have numbers in a bank account that correspond to each individual activity that you do doesn't mean it's not valuable it's massively massive numbers on it put numbers down don't put numbers on it yeah the way you look at it rethink the way you look at it but if you need to put numbers on it why don't you figure out what you would have to pay for somebody to do every single thing that the mother is doing from driving the kids around which takes up a huge amount of their time to all that stuff but if you're a business owner whose responsibility is that are you responsible for that is that
person your child now like this person who you employed like say if you have someone employed you employ them they work for you for four or five months and they get knocked up well most companies have minimums so you would have to be um like my husband's at a new company and i think he's eligible for some amount whether he takes it or not i don't know but he can have paternity leave too i think that he might be eligible but it's they frown upon that he has to be there for like a year did you give birth there bob how did it go was it painful bob you need time off to heal yeah i don't i don't know specifically but i think guys that take time off for paternity leave i guarantee they get [ __ ] on i don't think at google they're getting [ __ ] on google is a communist communist run empire i don't know who data collection but i do know that i want to be supportive of the family google should hand out all of that money that they stole as as freely as possible because they've been stealing money from people by by snatching up their data so you don't think people should get paternity leave i didn't say that what are you [ __ ] that lady you interviewed jordan peterson no i'm jealous i'm ashamed so what you mean is so if so what you're saying exactly no i'm just playing devil's advocate no i know you are i'm and i'm questioning what who do you believe should pay for something like i don't know but if i was an employer and i had a guy who worked for me i had a guy work for me he wanted to take three months off because his wife gave birth i'd be like what the [ __ ] are you talking about mike even to support his wife give birth to support his wife why pay him for free do you understand that this is kind of most people when this happens if they make enough money the wife will not work and the father will work right and then the wife takes care of the child and this is normal yeah and then the dad provides support when he comes home if
you're saying that the man and the woman should both get like three months off this is a new thing yeah right right he's not new in europe but we're not in europe this is better this is america right right rain devils out here you know what i'm saying no this is we're not in europe and for america this is a new concept right right so when someone in government i mean look it's interesting because it starts this conversation when someone in government who's a man who didn't give birth and they there's two of them and they both are off work and they you know they get free money or what happens are we paying for it maybe we're maybe we're incorrect maybe he's working on zoom i don't know are we paying for the paternity leave well we're paying for a lot of [ __ ] right we're paying for puppies to get tortured that's that's literally time americans pay for a lot of [ __ ] that is true it's uh it's an interesting conversation who's responsible it's a particularly if you're a small business if you have less than like if you have someone who has a critical role in your company and it's a man and the man's wife gives birth and then the man wants to take three months off wants you to pay him he'd be like what right wouldn't you i'm really trying to think what is my i really don't know you know it's something i i really hadn't maybe shot out of germany mike right go ahead move to germany they'll let you take three months off my cousin's husband got like nine months off oh god is that in germany yeah yeah well that's why their economy is [ __ ] i mean they were doing well but i'm not sure what it's like now were they well because they make mercedes and bmws it's just they they have a that this is something i've learned too from a lot of my european friends around like all this vaccine stuff is that there's they're much more um like i think it is just coming from socialism and
with lots of deep roots and like communism and fascism there's a more um they're more concerned about the group my friend in italy was like we don't have i mean i know there are italians who are protesting but she's like for the most part everyone's just like i gotta do my part and there's not like this whole thing yeah um so it does seem like you gotta do my part about what like getting the vaccine for you seeing what's going on in italy yeah no you're hiding it you don't know did you see that they they had town cam they had cameras that show like this area where the protests were having and they were showing fake images did you see that because it was so overrun with people that when they were reporting it they were showing fake images yeah it's very it's very strange in europe they do a good job of hiding all of the resistance to this so they make it seem like they're yeah they're more socially coherent cohesive coherent than they might be i don't know it just it's a fascinating and and crazy time to be um i'm i'm very much like an individualist you know american to my core i think in that respect yeah where i am like randy and south park i'm like i'm sorry i thought this is america i don't need to [ __ ] take a vaccine and i have been so anti-mandates and vac sports and all these things and i'm vaccinated sort of you're sort of vaccinated you got vaccinated with the johnson and johnson and it barely works just in the antibody and you lost your period for a couple years that's what's so crazy about being pregnant is that so can i tell this story yeah okay so we i was told first of all i was thinking about this on my way over here this is the second time i've been pregnant on your show the first time i ever did your show i was pregnant and didn't know it and it ended up being ectopic which for people who don't know it's like a suicide bomber in your body it's basically a tubal or ovarian pregnancy
and it would have killed me like a hundred years ago and it still kills a lot of women it's super dangerous and it's like a baby that's like if i'm not gonna be born i'm taking you with me can i ask you a question here is this um carved out i know texas has a really [ __ ] up abortion law yeah that they just passed is that carved down in the abortion law that you can have an abortion if there's you don't have an abortion so you would lose an ovary or a fallopian tube except now and this is where i'm like okay big pharma thanks i guess um what mine was treated with i found out early enough i i was like three weeks after it was on my birthday it was like three weeks after i was on your show the very first time in 2019 and i kept getting a shooting pain and i was like i think i have a [ __ ] ectopic pregnancy and it's so rare everyone's like you're crazy bridget i was like no i don't know why i just have this feeling term how do you say it actually yeah so it's like a tubal or a it can be in your fallopian tube or ovary it's just like i was joking like my old ass ovaries with their like little walkers didn't like make it all the way down and um then it's like a little yeah then it can basically explode your ovary or fallopian tube when the babies you know they double every like freaking day it's like crazy in those early weeks and um i went to the hospital on my birthday because i took a test that morning it came back i was having like a regular bleeding so i went in and they're like oh you're having a miscarriage or something like that but they couldn't find it and that was crazy too that was like a wild and i just got back together with my now husband i got married since the last time i saw you congratulations thank you it's been busy it's been a busy year and that was just wild and it was really sad and tragic you know we because they weren't sure and then i had to get my blood drawn every two days to see if the levels were like going up or down if they're like is this a failed pregnancy or a chemical pregnancy which is where it doesn't really take but you still
it'll still show up as pregnant and there was a minute where we thought maybe we were having a baby and then the levels doubled again and then they were like no and so they treat it with methotrexate which is chemo and they basically give you a shot in your butt and it stops the cells from dividing and it usually takes care of it if they catch it early enough now you will catch this between so i don't even know that you would need an abortion for it you they you'll cut generally you start exhibiting symptoms like between six and eight weeks so it's like a plan b type deal but it's in a shop it's not plan b i mean it's k it's straight up chemo but it's to stop the cells from dividing otherwise you like many people don't find out soon enough or they think it's like i don't know what they think it is it's it stops the cells in your whole body from dividing well it behaves like chemo but because it's chemo it stops the baby from continuing to divide and in the past they would have to take out your fallopian tube or your ovary so it's really dangerous you can die and if you don't die in the past you would usually lose at like at least a fallopian tube or an ovary sometimes they can save the ovaries they can't even do it's on abortion they can't do it no no no no it's not it's not even like you could have this baby at all right um it's really truly it's not good so do they carve out like for the abortion law like what if it's a stillbirth like what if the baby is inside of you and it's already dead i don't know i i'm not sure what like any of the carve outs that six weeks is super early it's weird so early that most women don't even know they're pregnant it was weird because when that happened i was six weeks pregnant and i was like this is [ __ ] early like the week that that came down i was like most people the only reason i knew so early this time is because my husband was like go get a [ __ ] test like your boobs are sensitive and like you're booking all this travel i was supposed to go shellenberger to europe and go to south africa and go to new york and he's like before you book all this take a test and i did
it came back but because i had a history of an ectopic pregnancy they need to know right away you have a higher instance of getting pregnant ectopically once you've already had an ectopic pregnancy it goes up i don't know the exact percentage but it's like exponentially so i had to find out right away if this was an ectopic and it's just a crazy story because they had told me after my ectopic we went and we were getting all my levels checked and then coveted hit so they're like come back in six months and we'll retest you well six months from november of 2019 was the world falling apart so we lost kind of a year of like even thinking about fertility because everything was shut down and i went back and they're like oh you're in menopause your levels are like full menopause i'm they were like we're shocked or even getting a period and this was after i got the j and j and i hadn't had a period in three months and this is an issue that is uh apparently according to miners according to uh a good doctor friend of mine the the hormone levels of people in certain circumstances they get vaccinated get all wacky yeah so to be fair i don't know correlation or causation because they had done my levels right after my ectopic but they were also very wacky and they're like this could be just because the ectopic and your hormones are all weird so come back in six months and we'll test you again and then it was coveted so we didn't do that i got the shot i went back and they're like you're a menopause you can't have kids we need to get you so it could have been from the ectopic it could have been from the jj well the in 2019 when i got tested it was definitely weird and so then when i went back in 2021 recently this was like in june when i went and they're like oh you're in menopause you can't have babies and then i was very upset and i talk i think you and i have talked about whether or not i wanted kids and i mean but i was kind like so it's just a weird story that was only five months later you're knocked up
that's what's crazy what's crazy is a month later i was knocked up i got knocked up in july really yeah and i went to a fertility doctor and they told me you this is gonna cost you a lot of money we want you to get these prenatals but i'm telling you it's gonna be like the golden egg based on your levels i got levels of of like my hormones and progesterone they were saying these are like menopause levels and we'd be shocked if we could even get like one viable egg and so we i took i bought all these like prenatals from the fertility doctor and then i got them and i was like what the [ __ ] am i doing like i'm 42. if i had wanted to do this like it would have happened and i'm not the kind of person that's going to force something like this and my husband and i were we went back and visited my family we were on the beach and i'm like are you cool if we're just not having kids and and maybe we can adopt later or whatever and he's like i'm fine we'll save our money we'll travel and um my i was mad that i spent the money on the prenatals and my therapist was like well just take them they're good for your nails and hair and skin and i'm like all right oh so you took those pills and i got [ __ ] knocked out so they worked and then i was like wait a minute the prenatals are designed to make you more fertile they're just you're supposed to take them before you um they do like an egg harvesting but yes you take like ubiquinol which is good for cell development and oh you know it's supposed to help like egg strength and eggs started your hormones who [ __ ] knows but i started taking them and then i was pregnant we were having that conversation on the beach i come back go see my ob who's no longer my ob and i told her i'm like i haven't had a period in 40 days because i got my period in between like the 90 days and she was like that's just the menopause we need to get you on birth control
pills because you're gonna lose bone density because you're a geriatric and so she gives me all these pills doesn't test me for to be see if i'm pregnant and that way you got rid of her well yeah and then a week later i took the test and found out i was pregnant and i was like holy [ __ ] call her up and go hey [ __ ] yeah i did i made her come that basically she felt so bad because i was like this is negligent i had an ectopic pregnancy like i could have last a week of finding out because you think i'm just you just assumed i'm an old which is a numbers game i mean it is amazing how they treat you when you're my age in pregnancy because geriatric at 35. really yeah they consider you geriatric at 35. hear that they don't really use that word anymore because it's falling out of fashion but they i was joking with my ob i'm like i'm surprised you guys don't give me a [ __ ] walker when i come in here 35 is geriatric but then the data doesn't lie you know the the numbers for like downs it's like when you look at all that stuff it's like it goes from 1 in 1 000 when you're in your early 30s to like 1 in 43 at my age so it's that stuff doesn't lie you know that it's not it's still a small chance but it's still there's a much higher probability of [ __ ] going wrong when you're an old like me you're an old and i call yourself an old i'm an old and that's what we were laughing about it's so crazy so the first like trimester i was i'm and i'm still very cautiously optimistic it's i want all the good vibes from your whole audience um it's such a miracle and crazy and we were very like uh okay like i went in for that first ultrasound to find out that it was an ectopic because they have to look right away and she's like no it's intrauterine it's like a little sack it's not viable i'm like how do i make it stick she's like honey if i knew that i'd be a billionaire on a private island oh my gosh so that's true before you got vaccinated you were having regular periods yeah like every freaking 23 day i mean and then right after you got vaccinated not
a period for 90 days and here's the thing when i went in to talk to my ob and when i would go for my checkups all the nurses not the doctors then i'd be like you know i got my vaccine they're like oh everyone's periods messed up from the vaccine like everyone don't shouldn't we be talking about this and what's crazy is that they just started studying how coved affects women who are pregnant like they didn't think to [ __ ] do this when people were getting covered and women were getting covered and they were pregnant so they really had no idea how it was the vaccine was gonna affect a woman's menstruation women who were pregnant etc and then you hear all these like stories online and a lot of it the problem is that so much of it is suppressed and you're just not people don't know what to believe it is a problem it's a problem because even we don't know what the real numbers are right so if someone says the numbers are incredibly small good tell us what the numbers are so that we can show that the numbers are incredibly small or that like yeah your period's gonna be messed up but it's gonna bounce back but i'm hearing stories of people who are like bleeding and they don't stop and yes it's all anecdotal but at what point is is like a lot of anecdotal evidence well it's like we were talking about about you know the chances of a child being down syndrome like we know this because of data right they're not suppressing that they're not like encouraging women who are older to get knocked up and and lying about the data yeah i mean they're very my my ob is very conservative they should tell you what the data is on everything so we should be accumulating the data on everything what you're not hearing and this is not saying that people shouldn't get vaccinated this is not saying the vaccine's bad what i'm saying is you're not hearing what the adverse reactions are you're not hearing them they're not reporting on them they're not making a big deal out of it they're not following up and like having and it makes people more skeptical yes they're not having these hard discussions about like who is it
why are they getting these adverse reactions what's the pattern and if you're not following that if they're just hiding it like if if the vares report like what percent because i was reading this thing that was claiming that the vares reports which is the vaccine adverse event reporting system that they only report one percent of the actual adverse events i'm like how do you know that how does anyone know that like i don't know what the actual reporting numbers are but i do know people that i'm close to that have had horrible reactions they those reactions did not get reported right so what what percentage of actual adverse events do get reported it bothers me because for all the talk in our culture about informed consent you know just what it's like you you should be able to make an informed decision about this for yourself but they're deciding for you i have a friend who's also pregnant and she does not want to get the vaccine because she doesn't want to mess with that and i don't frankly don't blame her and women had to fight so hard women for for just advocating for themselves and their health and i don't want to get this shot while i'm going through labor it's so it's been such a huge fight and to try and act like you can now force this on any woman anyone anyone let's just stop there but particularly a woman who's pregnant who might be skeptical when there's there's a lot of unknowns and i'm sorry i know the mra has been mrna has been around for 20 years and like i've heard every [ __ ] article every argument mass inoculated and and on top of that there's not long-term data there just isn't yeah there isn't and i i don't explain pregnant women i there there's something about so the mandates came down for kids for california and they did a poll in california and only a third of people want to vaccinate their kids i mean this is not a popular demand that high i'm shocked it's that high because when you find out what what's actually dangerous like whether or not covet's actually
dangerous for children it's not no it's not no and kids relatively speaking and then i'm seeing what all my friends who have kids are going through because of all these insane crazy like quarantine policies that these schools have that are nonsensical so one kid will get exposed in a class and then like only the three kids around that kid had to quarantine for two days and even if they had a negative test they still had to stay out for two weeks okay but here's why that's not crazy the reason why that's not crazy is because if those kids go home and give it to their parents or give it to their grandma and then the grandma gets sick and then the grandma dies or they give it to the teacher but your teacher gives it to the spouse and the spouse dies why not corn i mean it's weird though like only those four kids in the room of kids are the ones who are exposed you know what do you mean like of this entire classroom if one kid's exposed and comes back as like positive right then only like four kids are going to be quarantined not like the whole class oh i see what you're saying what what is the sign i want to know what science that is so it's basically what they're saying is the kids that are closest to that kid yeah they got quarantined well the dumb thing about it is like you're not following that kid around with a ruler that's what i mean billy you're closer than six feet but didn't they come out and say like the six feet thing was kind of [ __ ] total [ __ ] yeah i laugh it every time i see it in line i'm like someone the other day on twitter was like i wonder how many people lives have been saved by those like the things in the elevators have you seen this meme i'm gonna i'll send it to jamie because it's one of my favorite new memes so yeah it's it's a definite um yeah it's a [ __ ] yeah it's definitely i mean if i like you were saying i was i was joking because my first um trimester all i wanted was like plant-based food i was and i loved me i was i couldn't eat every time i ate red meat i'd puke and i was like my baby's a
[ __ ] globalist this is from the vaccines this this one oh yeah i love that tell me more about how virus can just came from a level four bio lab but can't get past a mask with little duckies on it i love it it's gene wilder from uh willy wonka the big smile it's such a great meme i know i love it and also yeah yeah yeah how the [ __ ] so i was joking about how my baby was a globalist because i was like this from a vaccine i'm not a vegan this is am i i was like why is my child craving food like all the plant-based the way they're all like pushing it and like you know great reset i'm like i was like i'm gonna be craving bugs soon and then like two months and i started craving taco bell which i haven't had in the decade and i was like oh my vaccine must be wearing off and it is wearing off we got your antibiotics test today they're like ghosts oh my god thank god your antibodies like that i mean there's so many jokes to be made about it obviously but it is i do appreciate that you're still willing to have these conversations i'm not stopping now now they've already come after me they can eat [ __ ] no they're not they're not talking about these things it's a real problem because they're they want to push a narrative so badly that they don't understand that they're censoring dissenting thought and they're censoring information that's counter to the narrative whether it's accurate or not and a lot of it turns out to be accurate like the lab leak theory right like the fact that the nih and fauci did fund gain of function research and like the fact that he lied about it and those are conspiracy theories just a little while ago so it was a vac sport so it was a mandate yes and the way that they do these mandates where it is the public kind of coercing the private so it's not like the government's just straight up saying we're gonna mandate it they're they're using the private sector to try and do their dirty work yes and i don't appreciate that and that's what i loved
about in and out stepping up yeah yeah they're like we're not the vaccine police no people should be able to make their own informed choices about their bodies and it's just discriminate i mean this is the whole piece i just wrote about lectures from limousine liberals where i was just raging because so many of the being in california in particular this is probably true more in blue states that were more locked down there was there were so many of these mandates that hurt the people that we like ostensibly care about like the when you shut down the outdoor parks that didn't hurt rich people with big backyards that hurt people who lived in you know apartments and they didn't have access to these public spaces when you like gavin newsom's kids going to private school while his freaking gardeners probably their kids probably weren't allowed to go to school like the there was such a disproportionate it it affected the poor the most and that was infuriating for me to see and then and to have all these like frontline workers who worked through the whole pandemic delivering food my husband worked in a grocery store at the time they were all around it the whole time and now you're gonna yell at them and tell them that they need to get a vaccine like the nurses yeah the nurses are the most disgusting story that's disgusting yeah it's disgusting and the police they were people were spitting on police officers in protests during a [ __ ] pandemic like where was your problem with spreading the virus then when you were screaming in there it's not even just that it's the fact that these guys actually had covet and they recovered so they have the antibodies so it's this is completely unscientific because they actually have better immunity than people who've just gotten vaccinated and there's been a lot of propaganda about this from the other side they're trying to like say no it's not true i saw some [ __ ] thing the other day on uh one of one of the health websites um one of the government websites [ __ ] which i don't god damn it i could find it but
it was a [ __ ] lie it's not supported by data the data from israel which is the best data that we have 2.5 million people i believe they studied found that the date the immunity that you get from a natural infection from having covenant recovered is 6 to 13 times better not a little better not equal to 6 to 13 times better so people like our nurse that was here yeah she had to work through the early days of code with no masks yeah the the doctors and the the administrators told her when she wears a mask it scares people so don't wear a mask so she got covered everyone she works with also got covered they recovered and then they're being asked to get vaccinated on top of that yeah i i mean that stuff is what makes my blood boil it's crazy and then they fire them so in the middle of a pandemic when you're firing a large percentage of your healthcare workers when you're following firing a large percentage of your fire department your your police officers yeah you have people in like very niche like the uh rescue jumpers the guys who jump out of helicopters and the coast guard they're saying there's a big piece like 20 of them are might not this is not something everyone can do and these guys are companies are backing down some companies aren't back like delta's backing down off of it i think i saw that south west was too they should they should again if you're not taking into account natural immunity and you know you can't even search natural immunity on instagram that's why i don't understand why that i mean i on my like conspiratorial like it's because they want to make money but it seems like even in in italy i think the green the green pass accepts natural immunity for within six months or something it seems like they accept it other places i don't understand why we aren't even testing for it because they want you to get vaccinated it's really simple that's simple like that seems like it just they want they want you to get vaccinated that just brings me right back to my hippie days
like [ __ ] big pharma they just wanna it's all medicated the idea that all of this is healthy during a pandemic that this is the only time where the pharmaceutical companies don't have influence over politicians and that they do have your health in mind only and they're not interested in making a shitload of money that they're only interested in actually taking care of people and making sure this pandemic is over and that they are completely altruistic and that they're not thinking at all about money that is [ __ ] crazy talk the incentives are just so bad too like i was thinking about this in mental health and you know people so from the insurance perspective you can't get treated unless you have a diagnosis so you have to have some kind of disorder be diagnosed with something in order to have your insurance even pay for it and so we're just talk handing out instead of being like oh maybe you're just anxious because like life can be anxiety provoking you've got to be diagnosed with like generalized anxiety disorder or whatever in order to even get treatment for it and then we're so quick to just medicate the symptom instead of really looking at a lot of the root causes you've been like a dog with a bone on this in terms of talking about how there's been no conversation about a lot of the underlying things people can do to boost their health so they don't get coveted or recover quickly from coven i mean everybody gained weight during the pandemic have you seen the numbers for kids kids got fat kids got super fat i'm sure jamie could find it my buddy told me that his son got fat and that uh his son got shamed by his buddies when they went back to school they're like oh you got fat because he gained 40 pounds no the the average buddy but that shame forced him to stop eating carbs and stop being sugar and he lost the weight oh good yeah and in something like six six or seven weeks he lost all the weight i mean everybody i think they were doing all the numbers and i don't know if these are
the accurate things but it was like the average millennial it varied by generation i think gen x was like 25 millennials were like 40 pounds gained average gains 40 pounds 4-0 yeah and gen z gained a lot and boomers actually did okay i'll look harder but the one online only says like five to two pounds gained for him compared to the year before these are for younger uh five to eleven and sixteen to seventeen years oh those are young young adults but what about millennials hold on hold on kids are growing they gain weight anyway like like let me tell you something kids you give them six months they gain five pounds just because they got bigger yeah i thought kids got fat though they weren't running around i read i read something i could be totally wrong maybe i'm wrong my buddy son got fat he was just talking about it but it was funny always saying fat shaming worked like he got fat and like he's like dad what do i do he's like well you got to stop eating carbs and stop eating so much bread and some pasta and sugar the weird thing is the reverse fat shaming where like they they they shame adele for losing weight well this so the second article i've stumbled across kind of says that fat kids got fatter so like obese kids gain more weight and they're working they're on a bad path so yeah that's it's so hard when you're young to lose that weight the adult thing is wild no the adult thing's wild it's so sad because these people who are just sloppy and they don't like the fact that she got her [ __ ] together and changed her diet and really started getting after it and worked out like a beast and she did it because like she said i did this because when i was working out i found that i didn't feel anxiety and i always tell my friends who are anxious i'm like move your [ __ ] body you know when you're feeling that get that and sometimes it's just energy that needs to go somewhere like you're an overflowing battery yeah and so she started working out and noticed and she's like it had nothing to do with me losing weight i just felt better and i felt like that was the only time i didn't have anxiety so then she just started increasing it and then she
started feeling less anxious and feeling better and low and it was like three years and they were mad that she didn't like didn't share her the level of entitlement that people have over somebody like that to their internal life and process and that's just so wild to me like they were mad that she didn't share her journey and was open about it it's worse than that because what it really is is that they love the fact that she was also sloppy and that like they identified with her here's this woman who's incredibly talented she's got this amazing voice and she's sloppy like me i love it you go big girls are beautiful like all that crazy talk i mean i i don't want to say big girls aren't beautiful i think i think guys how are fat guys doing they're hot they're not doing they're beautiful fat guys are hot right there yeah they're just as hot this is crazy talk no just as beautiful if you don't think adele looks way better now you're full she looks amazing she's way better yeah right i think that doesn't she look way better say it no she's women i don't want say it here's the problem i'm trying to be a nice person try not to say it she looks better she uh she looks amazing better [Laughter] yeah i mean you don't want to say it she looks better obviously yeah sloppy's not good but i don't think she looked like i still thought she was beautiful when she was overweight well she has amazing facial structure so that's what i don't that i don't want like we were talking about earlier shame is a hard thing to get over and i know a lot of people who struggle with their weight and i don't want them to feel like they're any less beautiful because they are struggling with their weight and you're such a woman that's such a woman perspective because there's not a man alive that goes these guys out here that are fat i don't want them feeling bad with their big bellies i want them to know they're [ __ ] handsome as [ __ ] i know what women who have this struggle go through i've talked to hundreds of them and i know how hard
i know i understand i've had to be schooled because i am absolutely like fat phobic and i'm not afraid of fat people i'm afraid of the fat person inside of me okay so let me ask you this this fat person that wants to get out into the world that's what i'm afraid of what is the difference with men and women with fat because you said you keep saying women i know how women feel well men feel the same way i think men have i think men are just not as open about it i i know a lot of men have struggled with their fat their feelings about being fat and and but why is it okay and why i think it's easier in the male culture to be like get your [ __ ] together fat ass and get out there and work out and stop eating so many donuts right but why is it also like no one supports fat men no one is saying to fat man you're beautiful the way you are it doesn't happen do they have the same when burke chrysler takes his shirt off no he's a hero no one is looking at him and going you're a beautiful person that's like a whole [ __ ] thing it's but it's a it is a mockery but i wrote it i was doing it about how dad is like acceptable and with women it's not acceptable hold on please did you see burke chrysler's instagram go to burke crusher's instagram and see this video that he posted yesterday of him shirt off in tampa and he is you know that's where he's from or tallahassee rather is he from tallahassee he's from camp he went to florida state okay where's florida state tallahassee okay i think that's where he's at so he is uh on stage it's a massive crowd bert is doing [ __ ] arenas now they love his belly but you don't understand no he said see the video there's a video this is [ __ ] cr no that's not the video go back please go back go let me see it i'll send it to you because he sent it to me hold on a second i'm confused here because i don't see it up there they love it they love it but there was
a video that is just him on stage yeah oh it's in his stories that's why or his reels here share share to jamie this is wild i mean this is wild yeah i just sent it to jimmy you gotta see this this is [ __ ] wild he's on stage first of all i think he's culturally appropriating page what's that it's on somebody else's page oh that's what it is okay so look at this give me some volume boy you're like why is this uh the wrong aspect ratio it looks different on my phone where i see the whole crowd you only see like part of it it's weird do you like i think it's culturally appropriating the web browser in front are different the vikings web browser in the phone is a different image okay um so but look play that again they love him how are you telling me that it's not different from men well first of all he's got the feathers in the the arrow that's what i'm saying i think he might be culturally appropriate yeah he definitely is is it yeah it's like the braves thing that they do look at all those people with their phones out with the lights on i mean that it's hard to see when we're looking at it through this browser versus through my phone when you look at it through the phone you get the full image of like how [ __ ] big his crowd is like look at that oh wow yeah it's huge it's [ __ ] insane and plus it cuts to the left and to the right so you really get a view of it so is your [ __ ] a [ __ ] arena you're so you're not making the point that men aren't treated so he's no one's saying he looks beautiful no his fat is a joke do you know that like that's why he takes his shirt off because it's funnier right no one's saying you know you're hot no one's saying that when he takes his gut out it's like ah look at you fat [ __ ] it's part of the fun right part of the fun is that he doesn't take care of
himself and that he drinks constantly he's fat right i mean he's celebrated for his comedy sorry that's a way better video of the what you're trying to get let me see it look at that come on that is [ __ ] insane burke chrysler you bad [ __ ] you he's got these people chanting some [ __ ] war trucks burke is going to be president of the united states i'm calling it right now a drunk president they love him war cry look at that war cry everyone's with him i don't know what that is but pretty wild my point is yes no one's saying she's beautiful everyone's saying look at you fat [ __ ] they love him he's hilarious yeah but that gut is not for beauty bad people still deserve love joe i think they do i think they do but my my point was that you're reluctant to say that adele looks better um she looks better she oh no she looks better she looks amazing so i'm trying to get out i mean she looks incredible anyone could do it yeah they can just like you got sober yeah people can accomplish difficult things and it's worth it this is the weird um like dichotomy or paradox that i kind of sit in and and i i often feel this way about people when they're like but they're drug addicts and they're like on the streets i'm like oh that could have been me you know and what was you right i mean not on the streets but it you were i live yeah i mean when i got a rehab i was in my car i wasn't doing great and definitely there but i do love that you know i tried i i try very hard to have compassion i don't want to be just like a hardcore you know i think p like you and i have said people need support um and there but for the grace of god go i in many instances but and i and i do think a weird because i agree a certain level of shaming works it does it does yeah
it's real it was like how i i mean that's why this piece of like how i i regret being a [ __ ] it's hard to write because i don't want to [ __ ] shame myself but i was deaf i mean it came about because this young woman i was waiting tables with she's like bridgette have you ever regret sleeping with the man i was like ch all of them but and that's not necessarily true but i don't know that i would have slept with a good majority of them had i not been like wasted and just right but your writing is all about honesty and about your honest feeling something but this is one area where you don't like to discuss it or you feel bad about it no it's a hard needle to thread you know i think that it's hard to thread without if i was to be totally honest i think it's that i felt like i had been lied to by the culture like the culture was giving me this message and gives a lot i mean this is a message that i see a lot of young women get but they're getting it and even this weirder weirder version than the one that i grew up with which was like i don't think you need to have kids to be like you know what you got which one was you what was your version it was really just like that female empowerment through sex we have sex in the city yeah yeah that was what i grew up with like who was the lady that [ __ ] everybody on sex samantha i think i never watched it because i hated it because i'm not i hate hate that show which i don't know my i cannot watch it i'm not uh like a consumer at all on like a brand [ __ ] i don't know anything so whenever they talked about shoes and i was like i'm out i can't i can't have this conversation i don't care and um it was weird it wasn't also just the life that i identified with but i unders everyone around me loved it and that was constantly being referenced and when i started writing a playboy they're like oh my god you're like a female carrie or whatever her name was um and like a female character well as opposed to what i don't know [ __ ] you trying to say are you gender shaming her that was a freudian slap
that's really why i couldn't watch that show um no so i grew up with a lot of that and now i see i read this great article about like baby doomers this is like the new thing where it's like don't have kids because the environment have you seen this no it's so unfair to you know i don't and i do i was just talking to my friend right before i came here and she was so excited for me and we used to party together and she was talking about how she the same thing like the messages she got growing up were so much like you can you don't need to have a baby and it's just like there's all this pressure to have a kid and and she was like having a kid she said she found so much meaning and and she's like i wish i had known this sooner because so much of the stuff i was searching for i've found so much healing and having a child in motherhood in motherhood and she was she and i were having this conversation i'm like it's you know i've been the woman who didn't have a kid and i've heard a lot of it comes a lot from like hardcore kind of reactionary right-wing media particularly where it's like you're not valuable as a woman unless you have a child and i am very oppositionally defiant to that rhetoric because i know a lot of women who have tried to have children and couldn't and i don't think it's fair to put that messaging out there yeah i don't think it is either it's also not real it's not real you can have a wonderful life you can have meaning all kinds of ways without children but i do think that in the over correction from those like 1950s years there was this push to almost deter women from having kids and and and saying that they can there is this pressure to kind of have it all and now it's like don't have kids because the world is ending which is insane to me because like people yes they didn't have a choice but people were having kids during like the black plague you know like shit's been way worse for humans through all of human history in terms of medicine conditions poverty and and even just childbirth and surviving
it than now and people are like don't have kid they're scaring people out of having children i'm reading these real articles about people who are and i will tell any women listening like what i really struggled with around my 40th birthday was that i had internalized so much of this and i i lied to myself like i lied to myself for many many years that i didn't want to have kids i didn't i was good i i didn't need to have kids mostly that i didn't want them and it when i hit 40 and that window started closing and i met i mean i also was i didn't i didn't want to have a kid just for the sake of having a kid but then once i met a man i wanted a family and once i was with this person i i felt like you know people told me to freeze my eggs i didn't um and i really had to confront that lie that i told myself because once the option was more off the table and wasn't even a possibility or so i thought um i really was faced with how much of a how much deception had gone into upholding this idea of being like the single woman who didn't need to have kids it was like [ __ ] that i was telling myself so you think it was like a defense mechanism because it wasn't really available for you yeah because i wasn't in a good relationship and yeah it was absolutely a defense my because also because i didn't feel worthwhile because i was sled-shaming myself that's why i say it's a hard needle to thread because so much of the shame around my sexuality not feeling like i deserved it not feeling like i deserved to have even when i first got with this pregnancy i'm still very like there i had to overcome these i'm like why do i feel like i don't deserve this like that's just great like you say it's crazy but it is those those things um are i've internalized so much not positive um feelings and ideas about
motherhood or having a child and i'm not sure where because i i mean my mom had five kids and loved being a mom so it certainly wasn't coming from like my my all my siblings have kids well it's probably part of living a reckless and independent life and being in a city i was the only one of my siblings who was like in a city and just also being when i was really grinding in comedy i just was like these two things aren't really compatible unless you have a lot of help and money and you're successful and i felt like i had to make a choice and in some respects i did but it you know i don't think that i don't know that i made that choice that choice is really made for me the choices are weird right because they're sort of biologically dependent meaning that you you have a window of time right it's not like women in particular yeah it's not like anything else in life yeah where you really only have if you're a woman you got like 20 something years oh hell hath no fury like i have a there's a special place in hell for men who waste a woman's like fertility years and don't and know that they don't want kids or that they're not ready to marry them or whatever and they're in their you know early 30s mid-30s and they're just like that is not okay wait a minute though don't you think that your deception that you lied to yourself when you were telling yourself that you were happy being associated yeah but i think that's different than being you think that a man do you think that a man is more responsible that he should have more of an understanding of what a woman feels but i think there are instances where men know that a woman wants a child i'm speaking of relationships where the man knows she wants a child inevitably no i just hear this a lot from women where they're in these relationships and the guy is kind of like well i don't know if i want to get married and then they end up breaking up and it's like there's years that they could have been out there yeah but it might not also just been that it might also been the relationship sucked it might also been they were trying to make sure that this
was the right person that they wanted to have a kid with because some relationships go [ __ ] sideways no i agree if you have a kid with a girl and then you're connected to her forever and it goes sideways now she's [ __ ] crazy and she wants money from you all the time and she's shaming you and angry at you like men are scared of that kind of commitment because it's a commitment that attaches you to someone for the rest of your life and if you get lucky and you find a good person it's great right but if you don't get locked but i think if they're scared of it then they shouldn't waste their time they don't know they don't know how the relationship's gonna go like all relationships when you don't know if it's gonna work out well yeah how do you know but how do you not know after like five years for example sometimes it gets better sometimes it gets worse i don't know i think i put it on the woman too to like get out if they're if they really want to have that kid and they're not sure but i do think that people need to like you said there's a there is a timer on that [ __ ] yeah but there's also like it's a give and take there's two people involved in this [ __ ] and if the guy like bails out he's like i don't want to do this anymore i'm like you wasted my time no [ __ ] we wasted both of our times it didn't work yeah yeah i think that's fair yeah i do relationships are so [ __ ] they're so [ __ ] hard different you are different with a different person yeah we all are if you were with the wrong husband or the wrong wife you are a different [ __ ] person than you are with the right person you know like how many times have you met a girl and she's like single and saying well i'm never going to get married [ __ ] that and then she meets the right guy boom she's married next you know she has kids like what happened i met the right guy i changed my mind i mean that was me yes it happens with guys it happens with women yeah like you think you're you know you don't know and also like how many people are like if you're looking for six okay like if you're looking for six
characteristics and they have four yeah and you're like well he's gonna get a [ __ ] together and get a job eventually well he's gonna do this but he never does look i i've know people that are involved in relationships and they're not totally happy but they're not totally unhappy right that's what's [ __ ] up that's the worst though yes i think it's much easier when it's like dysfunctional but you have great sex or whatever you know or when it's like it's an easy clear decision i think it's much harder when someone is checks a lot of boxes on paper but maybe like the passion isn't there right this is one i hear about a lot because i still get tons of emails about this stuff from people from working for playboy and i love them because i think like the human relationships are fascinating and particularly this kind of stuff where a man will be a man and a woman will be in a relationship and the sex life and intimacy just goes away but you know they have kids in a house and they have all these things and and there's there's still this thing that's missing or people are together and they're like well it's good enough and you're like is it though right like i i mean the sex thing for me that needs to be it needs to be that needs to be a functioning part of the relationship it does and you know the sex thing is generally speaking better if your body works better right and so that requires you to take care of yourself and that requires you to have discipline and to watch your diet and that was one of the promises my husband and i we we met in recovery and so we had those shared values just from meeting in recovery but we when we got together one of the promises was like we won't let ourselves go yeah i'm like we can't you know you because you see it happen and it does it i know that for me i don't feel as sexy when i'm a little chubby you know i'm just not when i'm not
working out or i'm not taking care of myself i don't feel like like i think burp feels he looks like he's killing it probably getting late every night [Laughter] he's famous i don't know though i'd have to be like plumber bert i'm not sure bert sent me a picture of him when he was like uh 20 21 years old and slim bert was a handsome bastard he burped in his college years was [ __ ] shredded yeah i mean he looked good i almost say shredded but he was fit that's fit bert okay he looks better he looks way better look how good he looks holy [ __ ] fit slim bert i mean he looks yeah he likes that and i bet if you did his uh like blood panel it'd be like healthier now bert now is just like wow bert now is killing it but you know there's a difference that's actually he was thinner then when he was doing the dance thing what doesn't he do the like sober october with you when you guys do that i'll do it this year are you doing it do it this year no no you're never gonna do it again i'll do it again i don't mind doing it um but you know one of the things was like i was doing mass in square garden i'm like listen i'm having a drink yeah yeah i'm really nervous i was excited yeah i get nervous for all shows though i get nervous when i do 200 people i get i was i was telling this to my uh my friend phil last night i was like i get just as nervous when i do 16 000 people is when i do 200 people yeah it's the same feeling i get nervous i get nervous before i even like coming to talking to you i'll be like nervous it's for me it's like that even like going to like the ultrasound i was like i really get the worst anticipatory anxiety and i know that it's my brain i'm like you're excited you're you're excited and nervous but but you're not performing at the ultrasound no no no but it's like the same um that same feeling of of uh anticipation when i'm and same thing as before when i would like be about to go on stage i could barely talk to people because i'd be nervous and talking people would help but once i get talking it's fine there's a big
difference for me the difference in anticipation of performing versus the difference of anticipation of anything else like any anxiety that have for other things is so much more manageable manageable yeah well it's all manageable obviously because i manage it but the it's a different feeling like when i'm about to go on stage i'm jumping around i'm doing breathing exercises i'm getting my mind geared up that was like me before my ultrasound but you're not i definitely get before i do anything kind of performative i absolutely get that um i i have to like move around yeah this part of the rush of doing difficult things is that you're not sure if you can do them have you watched dune no okay i heard two thing a tim pool said it sucked i loved it but i'm such a sucker for stuff like that i don't know if tim's correct but he said it sucks but he fell asleep yeah he died and tim kennedy i love my two tims did you watch jimmy let's call it a tale of two temps because tim kennedy said that um like he could watch doom all day or doom dune all day long forever that's one of the quotes in the book oh don't be a spoiler it's a quote in the book i'm supposed to read the book it's everywhere oh you're gonna say now that person says i'm like roger you told me that now it's so you should watch it but i would watch it on a big screen you ruined it oh my goodness fear is a mind killer it is a mind killer yeah that's accurate you're right fear [ __ ] your [ __ ] head up but it also like you know it's shocking to me that you get nervous why is it shocking um because you don't seem like you get nervous we'll define nervous i'm not worried not worried like i know i can do it yeah but i get nervous yeah i get nervous for everything i you know when i used to fight the times that i wasn't nervous i fought like [ __ ] yeah there's that somebody once told me with stuff that isn't fight or flight much like stand-up or performance anxiety
um the brain it's it's the same um it is the same like register's the same as excitement it's just how you're interpreting it so i always have to be before i get on stage i'm like i'm not scared i'm excited i'm not scared i'm excited i'm just excited and i'm interpreting it as being afraid well the danger is if you go on stage and you concentrate on the potential for failure that's the same as the danger in fighting like you fighters have to know what they're doing is very dangerous but you can't concentrate on the negative only you have to think about what you're trying to do it's basically like the secret it's no you know what it reminds me of though tony robbins who i actually [ __ ] love he did this great talk one time about how he was learning how to race car drive and the teacher because why not when you're tony robbins and the teacher was telling him not to you know it's like that idea of like don't focus on what you might crash into focus on coming out of focus on where you're going right like look towards where you're going that's what i'm saying yeah don't focus on the but that kind of is like the secret it kind of is but it's the law of attraction i mean do you have mantras or anything like that no but it's not because you're also putting in the work like what i said before like the one of the reasons why i'm excited and nervous is because i care and the reason why i'm not terrified is because i've known i've done the work i've done so many shows i'm and i'm in i'm on what you would call comedy shape right i'm working tomorrow night i'm working wednesday night i'm working thursday night i'm working friday night i'm [ __ ] and i work last night so i'm working all the time i'm doing sets all the time so i'm doing multiple hours a week and i'm going over my notes and i'm writing and i'm preparing and then when i go on stage when i'm about to go on stage i get ramped up yep but it's because i
care and also because i've eaten [ __ ] before and it sucks like you can't and also like people pay to see you yeah you can't you can't you can't half-ass it i've had to rely on it's interesting though because like you were saying some of the stuff that i tell myself is not healthy obviously so how do you undo that my therapist is a big fan of not like the secret but she's a big fan of um mantras which i've never been a huge fan of although i i will admit reluctantly that in this early first trimester because i had so much fear and anxiety and i'm like a data person so i was reading all the data and i'm like you're going through all these as a geriatric they put you through like every single screening geriatric old with every screening and um every time you're waiting for those results or whatever it's a little nerve-racking and she was like you just have to use a mantra and so she gave me a mantra what's the mantra um i'm imperfect i'm in perfect health my baby is in perfect health and this pregnancy is going to go perfectly and in some ways it's just to replace me being like i'm an old because i'm always yelling about how the olds are running the country i'm like i don't want these olds running the country they're so freaking old there are so many old ones between nancy pelosi and joe biden diane feinstein's like in her 80s so is pelosi yeah no i'm sorry but no um so is fouchy so yeah she gave me this mantra and it seems it feels a little ridiculous although i and in some ways it's like self-soothing you know it's just me being like a like i feel like i'm like rocky i don't say it out loud but it feels so much of this stuff is completely out of my control and it feels like just a silly way of trying to feel like i have control over it you know it's not it's not like if i don't say that mantra shit's gonna go sideways right right right um are you taking vitamins of course of
course i'm so i am like so healthy i'm such a healthy whenever they do my blood pan they're like you're my doctor said she's like you are in perfect health but when i get my um you know like my normal stuff are you exercising of course i never stopped exercising i just so i kept doing what i was doing and continue to in a lot of ways it's like other things right like you're preparing you've done all the right things you've done all the right work you're nervous because it's you made a [ __ ] person inside your body and it's exciting and i don't want and i'm so um cautiously optimistic i think there is a part of me being like irish i don't know what it is of like east coast or irish catholic but i'm like skeptical of good things [Laughter] that's a very east coast you know where you're like i don't know you don't want to get too big for your britches right why why do you think that's an east coast thing is that an immigrant no i don't i think it's an immigrant thing that's like when you get sober and everyone's like oh look you think you're better that it's like you think you're better than everyone like getting pregnant at 42. you know you just like you want to i want to keep my head down and avoid the wrath of the gods i'm skeptical of i am i there is like part of my nature that's so suspicious of of like it's this i'm the same way with business though i'm like yeah i'll believe it i'll believe it when like the ink is dry right you know i'm not gonna celebrate this deal until but i could do that until i'm like holding a baby and the crib isn't even made yet you know like we'll see how it goes oh [ __ ] i should have got a crib yeah the uh the difference between the east coast and the west coast is west coast celebrates things before they ever happen yeah yeah they'll like assume that everything's gonna go great and deals fall apart and start doing coke and then you have like the justification for your then you end up homeless on the beach it's full circle it's true though what you're saying about east coast people are like they don't want you to get too big for your brain
i feel like it must have to do with like being the children of immigrants is it or it feels a little like crabs in a bucket too like in the small towns yeah i mean that towny privilege and mentality is so no one ever talks about towny privilege it's real when i go back to like my hometown and it's a resort town and now it's booming with tech money and it's really weird and it's created a whole dichotomy that was always blatantly there but now it's even worse is it resentment well because the housing has priced all the workers out of of the island basically and so it's a kwitnik island where the [ __ ] is that newport rhode island oh yeah but people are like oh you're from newport use i'm like but now it feels when i went home i was like whoa this feels a lot like it must have felt because it was the original playground of the rich it's where the vanderbilts had their mansion and the asters why there it was right outside of new york city it's gorgeous absolutely gorgeous sailing town i mean i don't know but it i mean have you been there and seen those mansions i don't think i have i've been to island a bunch of times but i haven't been to it's first of all it's been like 20 years since i did anything other than like comedy clubs there yeah and just toured like drop into a show gorgeous but we were like blue collar newport we weren't you know i was waiting on all the people that were summering there and taking care of their kids and i grew up with a lot of class resentment that i still have to keep in check there's like that writer jonah goldberg who's a conservative guy who always cracks me up and he's always like don't do populism because he's always like checking me on my populists i could be aoc we've talked about this i could easily lean into that i grew up like really resenting the rich and i have to you know watch that in myself i'm fascinating to what fascinated by what the hamptons are i've never been i don't know what it's like to hobnob there but it seems like like a really weird place where people who are all rich go to be rich together
yeah no i mean newport is very similar in the summer that have you been to the hamptons no because it seems just like a worse version of newport and it seems like so many of those like hobnobby people like chris cuomo and matt lauer and howard stern well i know the all-white and quote speech club that like senator whitehouse you know what all white do you remember senator whitehouse was getting uh senator whitehouse from rhode island what is this this was recently over the summer he was getting attacked for belonging it came out that he belongs to an all-white beach club in rhode island so i bet i worked at that i was a nanny for kids rhode island not the hamptons not the hamptons but it's very similar like the people who are members of the speech club are insanely old money like campbell's soup my i mean we're talking about old schools i mean that black people can't join no and that's what was wrong i was talking to a new york the new york times reporter who's talking about this story i'm like it's not all white and policy but i've never seen a black person there you know it's like it's not all white it's not anywhere that you can't join but it's definitely like when the last time i went there just because somebody invited me to lunch there one time when i was home a couple years ago and i was like holy [ __ ] this coming from la which is diverse and anywhere you're i was like this is the whitest place i've been in so long even the staff was white like european you know i was like this is crazy is that is anybody black tried to join there that's a good question i i'm not sure i think that i'm not sure i feel like somebody sued them at one point but i think it was a jewish family because they i don't know that there were any jewish members of the club either oh no this is wasp like yeah oh yeah it's old old money and they're very they kind of look down on even like hampton's money because it's like new money really yeah it's [ __ ] old my newport is old money and now there's all this new money in
town and the old money hates that and i haven't been that weird like that inherited money is somehow another better the money you earn those kids crack me up i have a good friend and there was like this whole debate because larry ellison was gonna buy this property and he was gonna like th they were then all the old money people got together and they were gonna do something like um sell all their properties below so that his view would be destroyed basically and his his value would go down and they were like if you're gonna act like new money we're gonna treat you like new money larry i don't know what you're saying but sell all his properties below so they all had properties in this area he was gonna buy a property and they didn't want him because they he was gonna like build something huge and chop down the trees and and do all this stuff and they were like we should sell all of our properties so that they get developed and it ruins his land value basically i was like listening to this just laughing hysterically that's the breakers what's that jamie is there somebody i just typed in newport mansions and just went to google images no it's insane click on that one the upper right hand corner look at that [ __ ] place holy [ __ ] oh that's not anything i mean the breakers is insane oh my god i said him in the inside this size that [ __ ] no they're crazy and it's all like marble imported from italy and literally no click on the house on the left of that right there that one no no no the one to the left the one to the left of the big image so you just no up right above that jesus christ so small no no no that's not the one below it the one with the the yeah that's it thank you oh my god look at that yeah it's nuts that's breakers right behind it and there's this cliff walk that you can walk i mean newport's it's gorgeous it's truly just beautiful but it's i think i did a game these are all places that you tour now they're owned by the they're not owned but they're run by the
preservation society and nobody lives in them no no you could do you there you couldn't put a price on what those what is in those things from this is all from the gilded age it's interesting though because it does feel like the wealth disparity in america right now is very similar to this this period in american history when there was just so much so much wealth and so much of a disparity between the rich and the poor oh my god seventy eight million dollars oh that's in the hamptons that's in the handbag switching i was comparing to the hamptons she was talking about 14 bedroom home with a 360 degree view of the water in southampton 78 million oh yeah the hamptons is nuts i mean that's where like where's the house doesn't martha stewart have a house there isn't that where she who martha stewart i think she's connecticut i mean i think she has a house in the hamptons though too this is all second houses oh that's 75 million you're getting robbed kids 10 acres what i was just hanging out with chris rock he's got or excuse me kid rock a different person very different i was hanging out with kid rock yesterday in nashville kid rock has the [ __ ] craziest spread you've ever seen in your life he's got a church on his property he's converted to something else he's got a uh a replica of the white house i mean he built a [ __ ] white house on his property it's the most hillbilly redneck rich [ __ ] i've ever seen in my life it's a 27 000 square foot house money this is new money general but it's a 27 000 square foot house with two bedrooms old money would never do this he's got oh yeah for sure he's got a a giant gold elevator as you walk into the house he's he's in the process of building it and he goes a lot of people want to hide their elevators i'm like [ __ ] that when you come to kid rock's house i want him to say [ __ ] kid rock's got a [ __ ] elevator right in the
front so he's got a a gold shower room like it's like shiny gold tile like this like glittery gold tile the whole thing is like literally a golden shower room his whole house is a party oh okay it is a party house it's he's got a i would hate that well you're different than him but he has a 20-person jacuzzi it's a giant 20-person jacuzzi with with like this with the filaments on the ceiling for stars and he's got like old reclaimed beams and these like gas lanterns that are hanging like an old mine shaft it's the craziest [ __ ] place i've ever seen guy fieri designed his kitchen wow he's got a bowling alley he's got a cuck uh i don't know i think he hires a guy he's that rich oh kid rock is rich as [ __ ] rock murders it on the road touring murders it huh yeah so he's got this huge [ __ ] gym sauna area i mean the house is 27 000 square feet it has two bedrooms wow one guest bedroom one master bedroom wow the view is [ __ ] preposterous the house is nuts how many acres 200 acres oh wow so [ __ ] [ __ ] this hampton's place this is [ __ ] 78 million bucks you're getting [ __ ] kids yeah but it's all about the hobnobbing i don't know i'd rather hobnob with kid rock i'll be honest with you these people are probably boring he's hilarious no i've been i i like i said i grew up around that entire population and it it it's something else the pink pants and the whale belts and the it's all in the boat shoes but the fact that old money looks down on new money is so fascinating you didn't even yeah that was saying that you didn't inherit your money you didn't even inherit your money yeah you didn't you didn't come from generations of money you earned your money like my great-great-grandfather did where'd they get that money like who who like what was the business um a lot it's old money it's like like fiber optics and like
no literally like campbell's soup and you know old money old like old oil money from texas and but those newport houses look like they're from the 1800s oh those houses those are all the like um the robber barons you know that was like the the the vanderbilts and the asters and the guys who built the railroads and made all like they all those people had houses over there weird no that was a crazy time in history but here's the thing about this disparity of wealth like how does one balance that out without going full communist right because when you when you think about there's a disparity don't take my money bridgette what do you but how did was how does one do it look i'm the first person to say that i'd be more than happy to give up more money in taxes that it would positively affect communities if i really thought we could cure like some of these like deeply impoverished communities that are ridden with crime and violence and drug abuse and if there was a way to do that and the way to do that is to pay more money in taxes that's not it though it's this it's what you talk about a lot and it's what my friend carol roth has written about and is just constantly on the great consolidation as she called it and an essay that i think she put out today where we need to remove the barriers for people to have to take risks and start small businesses there were 30 million small businesses before the lockdowns and pandemics and and pandemic and it's most people don't understand those small businesses are 50 of the american economy and that consolidation between big government and special interests and all of that wealth being transferred up into the centralization that's occurring like why walmart was open and your small local place wasn't why you could go she uses the example in her article why you could go get your
dog's nails trimmed at petsmart but you couldn't go to your local hair salon how it crushed all of these small businesses but government particularly the government we have now doesn't necessarily like small businesses because they're decentralized they represent decentralization and so there's so many and then just today they were talking about the um unearned gains did you see this jamie it was like unearned gains tax that they want and carol was saying she's like don't normalize this this is just stealing from you it's like not a real thing what does that mean by unearned gain why don't you explain that unrealized unrealized thank you i'm not the the right person to explain even how this what's wrong with it what is what is what are they saying it's it's taxing you on how do you how do i explain this i'm sorry unrealized gain would be uh if you put a hundred dollars into tesla and it went up to a thousand dollars and your hundred turned into a thousand taxi on the nine hundred dollars that is existing in an account you don't actually have because it's you haven't made that money until you take it right right that and that would be taxing that so they would take money before you even withdrew money right right [ __ ] criminals yeah no it's that's some criminal [ __ ] it really is when they're just trying to find a way to build this build back better policy that's like 2 500 million pages long and no one's read it yeah no one's read it they were trying to shovel that through there was one congressman who was explaining and he showed it he's like this is the bill yeah and he goes do you think joe biden's read this bill do you think nancy pelosi has read this bill no they have interest inside that bill yeah and they are going to push that through and then when it goes through people are going to have to come to the realization that they didn't know what was in there right but when they say build back better you're like yeah we should but i think that's that bill right i think what's in that [ __ ] bill no no
everything what isn't it yeah i think that that's the the that's the answer though is to create a robust middle class that's that's how instead of creating this massive welfare class that is dependent on big daddy for everything big daddy government which is driving this inequality you look at how much the you know these tech corporations while they're the fed is pumping money into the markets and meanwhile like cannibalizing main street the whole time and this process has been going on but it just was exacerbated and so that's not going to help with the inequality yeah no it's what happened with small businesses and restaurants and various places that got forced into closing down while other places were open is is nothing short of catastrophic it's another thing that makes my blood boil yeah i know it makes me sick too because i know a lot of people have lost businesses we were hanging out with tony hinchcliffe's dad a couple weeks ago in pittsburgh his dad had a restaurant that he ran for 30 years in youngstown and uh now it's gone it's gone it's gone because they made him close it down during the pandemic yeah so many small businesses just couldn't they couldn't survive yeah it's [ __ ] it's [ __ ] and there was no talk of revitalizing those businesses uh i mean i know there was some loans that were passed out to people is you know what's shocking like how many people um were scamming like how many yeah how many people took those government loans and they just [ __ ] they didn't deserve it they didn't need them they didn't need them or deserve them like rappers got busted yeah yeah that's crazy with the corporation and then there was like the whole um oh my gosh that's hilarious georgia man used covet 19 relief loan to purchase 5 7 000 pokemon cards i thought this was america are people still buying pokemon cards i guess they're worth a lot of money are they really certain ones yeah
i remember when pokemon like people were driving down the street playing pokemon oh pokemon go yeah that was nuts it was scary they were they were all down by the santa monica pier that like hundreds of them running around yeah not looking yeah bumping and [ __ ] this lady was driving and she had the pokemon go on her steering wheel i was watching her do it no i was like this because i was in a truck and i was looking down like look at this crazy [ __ ] addicted to it all right for sure i know a few drops that was four how long ago was that i was three or four years ago yeah but isn't it crazy that like immediately it took off and then most people came to their senses what are we doing you know but a lot of people didn't we need people to come to their senses yeah we do but is it going to happen do you have faith that was one of my questions for you is what gives you hope because i've heard a lot of your recent episodes and it seems like you know we can talk about how crazy it is and know it is and i don't know what you or i could do about anything really uh other than run our mouths but i think running our mouths actually does help okay i really do i think you help i really do you're a voice of reason yeah but what are you hopeful yes what gives you hope because i think people are going to get fed up i think there's enough people that are going to get fed up and i think genuinely evil scumbags trip up and they keep tripping up and i don't think they can keep the charade up for very long what i'm nervous about is the damage that they do before they get busted before it all falls apart on them i'm nervous about the victims the victims whether it's small businesses or whether it's children or whatever whatever i think that's going to go wrong while they just look to extract money right like this is my fear is that health mandates certain things are going to be made that aren't in the best interests of people but are in the best
interest of profit and that scares the [ __ ] out of me because i think there's going to be victims along the way but i think the more they push good people with these really [ __ ] preposterous ideas the more people gonna get fed up like what's happening in australia when people are like storming these cops and like like they won't they won't listen and they're running down the streets you you can only push good people for so long before they get together and figure it out what's [ __ ] about australia is they don't have guns yeah you know i mean australia they're they're literally disarmed yeah and they don't have the same sort of power in terms of freedom of speech and expression yeah yeah that's really the biggest thing i think they want to crack down and that's one of the reasons why i'm so angry about tech censorship yeah because i don't think they understand how dangerous this is because you can use these tools against your enemies now but they will be used against you tomorrow yeah you need to understand this and i tell everyone who's not too big to fail um because i think there are certain people who they don't necessarily have to worry about the tech censorship as much although they did like do a hit job on our past president um so they i don't think anyone is necessarily as safe as they think but i definitely have had to create a lot of plan b's for myself i'm on rumble with glenn greenwald i'm on locals where i have all my video in the event that i get disappeared from there how many people do you have on locals um well i have people who can follow me and they can just follow me and it's at fantasy.com and then i have people who can subscribe so so but if it's kind of like patreon but you could just follow me and i leave a lot of stuff just open you know like i'll just open it up it's like some of it is public and some of it's just behind the people this is on fantasy.com you can do that yeah so like rumble is totally open that's like my public facing version of youtube yeah and so rumble is uncensored right yeah they i mean they have like rules like you know no freaking
you can't be like an open racist and stuff like that but i appreciate rumble because at least i know what what worries me about like youtube it's like a joke we flatlined at 49 we don't get a single new subscriber we're like i think we're in some weird algorithmic black hole and it's not like they're demonetizing us yet but that will happen as it happened to brett and heather and so you kind of um i at least know on rumble that none of that stuff's gonna happen because i'm talking about how boys and girls are different and i'm against the vac sports when i had um that coveted thing happen um there was an immediate drop-off on the number of people that i got every day on instagram oh interesting and i think i got put into some weird category they put you in like a it's like a algorithmic black hole it's fascinating because the amount of likes for stuff hasn't changed so the same amount of people are still checking my stuff but the amount of new growth it's just like hit the brakes and you can say that's because people think you suck now but i have a feeling it's more complicated than that because that whole sanjay gupta thing was pretty positive for me overall in terms of the the way the general public related to what i was saying versus what he was saying yeah you know in terms of like cnn lying you weren't catching them lying yeah that was egregious but the thing is the there was a there's something happened and some there was like and i'm i might be i might be like looking too far into this and maybe i'm wrong but it seemed like there was a tangible slowing down of growth yeah yeah that happened to me on twitter after something that i did or said and i've seen it and i try not to be paranoid and i'm i'm also just like well it's private business and i'm just happy to be here so there is that aspect of me i feel that aspect [ __ ] that aspect because like one of them they're just massive well we know because of project veritas right you know which is interesting because people demonize project veritas right
but we know because of their work because of their conversations that they've had where they recorded these conversations that people didn't know where they've talked about putting people on these lists right we've talked about making sure that people are shadow banned right making sure that and you know they just admitted recently was it facebook that admitted recently that conservative ideas uh and that conservative people get treated differently right do you know [ __ ] there was a thing on cnn whether that brian stelter guy was actually saying we should start treating republicans differently than we treat democrats yeah this this the other ring that's been going on is really unsettling and disturbing to me and it's been going on since trump you know and that the people many of us have been talking about the self-censorship that's been going on this process of keeping your mouth shut and just going along has been going going on for some time but now it's extended to like masks and vaccines and and i think that you will push people to a point where they're like [ __ ] this i know so many people right now who are having to choose between going to work or getting the vaccine and that and some of them are lucky enough to be in a position to make that decision if you're not in a position to make that decision it's not really a choice you know they try and make it like oh it's voluntary it's like it's not a [ __ ] choice this was something that was lost during the pandemic with wealthy people that i experienced where a lot of people like we need the lockdowns we need and i'm like you have money you don't have a business that's rotting away that you work for for 30 years like tony's dad right where you're [ __ ] right you don't have anything you're you have a lot of money so you're happy right you know these hollywood [ __ ] that were like you know we need to keep things locked down we need to stop the spread and everyone needs to stay inside and not go anywhere that was my piece lectures from limousine liberals it's like you guys got to like stay home and post your pictures of sourdough and you
had your as my friend carol markowitz calls it pajama jobbers which i love and then sneer at all these people who work through the whole pandemic because they didn't have a choice because the real choice was people who got to stay home and people who didn't yeah and that's just been now blown out into people who want to get the vaccine people who don't and it's the othering that language is unsettling yeah it's othering across the board right they find ways to use othering but it really is othering and i don't i don't like that because it does it doesn't you know that i'm grateful for you i'm grateful for podcasts because i do think i joke like podcasts are gonna save the world and i do think that these long-form conversations have exploded in popularity in this time when everything is crazily polarized and people are very confused like you said when you are openly lying about what they said about you then catching them in the lie and then doubling down on the lie one or two more times you're losing credibility and we have a massive credibility crisis with all of our institutions and people then are much more likely to fall into conspiracy theories and you know exactly that and they think the solution to that is to censor those conspiracies and it makes them even more conspiratory as long as places like rumble exist you know and that i think they're going to grow i think that place is going to grow yeah i love i love the owners i love them um i really tulsi's on locals now i love i love she's on rumble she's on rumble and locals yeah i think this is one of those things where they [ __ ] up enough where this the the grip has slipped to the point where enough people are gonna first of all we'll keep saying the name rumble right keep saying it yeah get people to keep going over there i'm not i'm not over there but i certainly would be although somebody's probably pretending to be me there already i like it over there and it's we don't get the same amount of engagement but then what's happening for now you don't what's happened with us but our growth has been we'll probably have 50 000 subscribers on freaking rumble before we
do on youtube and i've been there for two years and i'm not kidding you it's like all of our numbers just flatlined and every week they like what did you do where they flatlined was that was there a particular episode it's the women thing i've been going so hard oh the trans stuff yeah i haven't been going hard on the trans stuff but i have been going hard on yeah i guess it's a translation it's the trans stuff it is it is because it's by without even saying it without being negative about trans people by saying we need to support the idea that it's okay to say women get pregnant and women give birth and women breastfeed it's not chess feeding people i just don't i i think that women have fought for the it's funny because my english teacher told me that i was a disgrace to feminism when i was like in high school she was like cause i was like what's wrong with opening doors for women i don't see what the problem is and i was not really like all on board with the feminist thing and now i feel like i have become like a radical feminist but it's hold on the threat has changed well it's a very different prison [ __ ] drives me crazy that's another one that makes my blood boil because we're talking about those women's you know like human rights that's a human explain what's violation so in california in particular but we're seeing you're seeing this in the uk as well you can just self-identify as a woman and get transferred into a female prison and there there's no stop gap on this even if you are a sex offender or you're you're somebody who has been abusive to women they will still transfer you into these prisons you also don't need hormonal you don't need any you used to have to need like replacement therapy you'd need psychology you would be you have to be on medications and i i just think that that is insane and now you're hearing about women being raped and in the uk there was that recent thing that uh that they came out and said you'd get a harsher you'd get extended sentence if you misgender
a woman in your prison in prison yeah in prison so you're a woman you're in a woman's prison a biological male with a dick intact without taking any hormones comes into your prison if you call that biological male a he that will keep you in jail longer with him i was joking on dumpster fire i'm like it's gonna get to the point where you're like he raped me and it's like that's extra time for you young lady yeah like it's so yeah and it's [ __ ] crazy and it's people know it's crazy everyone knows this is crazy so how does it get passed through um in california i mean it's not everywhere so it's in california but the the stuff is crazy you know this is where abigail schreier's been amazing on on like the stuff in california where you can basically like trans the kid without telling the parents that's bananas to me that you can do that to a child and that um and she was talking about how in california we're in kind of a precarious moment because right now we at least have data about who is self-identifying as a woman and being transferred into a woman's prison but once it gets to a point where they can just have self-identify on an id we won't we'll lose the ability to even track who's going into these women's prisons and is a biological male so it's just it seems like it's and again this is a population that people are ostensibly like we need to you know the women in prisons are often and they are they don't no one speaks for them who's speaking for these women and this is the population we're supposed to be caring about and worrying about and where is the concern and the worry and i do think like that whole wii spa thing where they were like oh this is just a scam and then you find out the guy is a freaking registered sex offender and has another case pending yeah or the the woman no the guy whatever um if you still have your penis you're not trying i will i will be a polite person and call you whatever the hell you want if
you want me to call you elmo right now joe i'll call you that that's so sweet megan murphy's very hardcore about that have you ever listened to her stuff about it yeah well until she got like banned from twitter i know but that's the thing people i say we know this is nonsense and people know it's ridiculous and if you but let me ask you this but people are afraid but how did it get so far i i mean this is a question that i have i have like there's a conspiracy theory side of me to this because i hear that part oh god dude yeah so there's apparently like the trans movement is um really backed by the george soros no the black helicopters people who um it's like a stepping stone to being transhuman and so you can you can basically kind of like get people used to the idea of like switching out body parts and putting you know microchips and getting a new arm that's biomechanical and and so that you can go live on other planets and also okay this is just the conspiracy but who's they this is the thing about this world no there's i just i don't know that i've i can't remember the name right now but there's this billionaire george soros and no um god do i even i don't even know like i'm scared to like draw the draw out the this is how scared i am with this conspiracy i'm aware of my fear of this conspiracy theory as i'm like i don't want to mention the name publicly because i don't want to die wait a minute you you're worried this conspiracy is real then i i'm worried that these forces are because this is my question how did this get so mainstreamed how did it get so mainstreamed in our policies well have you ever listened to douglas murray talk about this what's his theory douglas murray said that during the collapse of a civilization all civilizations become obsessed with gender and that the greeks and the romans they all did that they they become obsessed with switching roles and that rules
aren't rules anymore and that in this chaotic state yes exactly exactly interesting well i do know that this certain billionaire is [ __ ] new it's her name now oh it's a woman well it's a trans woman and is it that person uh nope okay um you just shamed her for no i didn't put that person on though you son of a [ __ ] it's just for you too um and and they have a lot of money and biotech who the [ __ ] is it i can't remember her name liar no i really can't i always forget how dare you uh and what country are they from america but they have a company in canada where they can get like do a lot more biotech research that we can't do in the united states what kind of [ __ ] it's a rabbit hole i don't necessarily need everybody to be going down anyway this person is a lawyer and i think that they they've perhaps been very influential in a lot of these cases that are fighting to get these policies because how how what's your theory what is your theory i think douglas murray's theory makes more sense i think there's a there's a trend going on that's it doesn't i don't think about it but there's got to be money involved not necessarily i mean i don't think one individual person is capable of manipulating things at the scale that it's happening right now i think the way it's happening now it seems to be like a psychological trend that coincides with the change in our culture but there is money involved i mean think of all the money like that right like hormones reassignment surgeries right but there's an industry to that right like if you are spending money that means you someone's making that money yeah i mean hospitals are making money off these surgeries there's going to be some of that there's going to be and there's also people that are that have already transitioned that are encouraging other people to do so as
well you know there's like people that feel like it was a good thing for them want other people to do it and so they're more active and getting people to do it i wish that there was a way you could actually become a woman like with a pill yeah like or a [ __ ] you walk into a transformer machine then you can go back and forth like i tried it yeah i'd be a woman for a couple days just to see what the [ __ ] you guys are thinking i mean it's not fun why do you say that no you've seen me having fun i i've i was i had the worst penis envy my whole life yeah my whole life i mean i think i absolutely would have liked trans if i transitioned if i was uh if i was like a young influential teenage girl on online i mean easily influenced yeah yeah usually influence sorry yes um if i was yeah i don't know i think a lot about that if i was 13 and online and didn't have this parental supervision and i was reaching out into the the void of the internet and and didn't really like being a woman because i was going through puberty and felt uncomfortable and also was just kind of jealous because the boys seem to have more fun i probably would have been all in it's uh when i look at aliens when i look at the bodies do you have aliens in here in here where somewhere your house no they don't come they they they or they don't stay they just come they visit but when i look at it the archetypal alien right they have the giant heads and then they have these bodies they don't have any muscle tone to them or sexual organs i feel like that's where we're going i think what aliens are what aliens are when we look at those iconic images like from close encounters of the third kind that archetypal alien i think what we're seeing is where what our future is like we're transcending gender because if we go back to uh the early primates the early hominids right what did they look like well they were really muscular and hairy and then as you get closer to us
we're really doughy and we're losing our hair you know we're like smooshy even like muscular people if you touch them they're so soft in comparison like a chimp you feel a chimp's body it feels like wood it is like pure just mud but they're not just jacked they're dense yeah they're dense in a different way like they feel different and i think that as we get weaker and softer and then we have more ability to manipulate our environment through technology we're going to have less and less need for muscle yeah and i think that as we become more and more integrated with technology like physically integrated where technology and us have technology and human beings have a symbiotic relationship that's inseparable like we will develop technologies that allow humans and technology to integrate because the only other option is artificial life because if we create artificial technology or artificial intelligence if we create and it's not even artificial life but it would be like silicon based electrical based life right like life that's created through humans that's our demise that's going to be the end of the human animal because it'll be able to be sentient once it's sentient it will be able to create more advanced versions of itself because it won't have the limitations of the human mind right so the exponential increase in technology and innovation will spread so rapidly and so far it will improve upon all the systems to the point where we will be [ __ ] yeah it will experience thousands of years of evolution in terms of technological evolution in a couple of weeks yeah i think the way to get through that is we integrate and that's what you're looking at when you look at aliens what you're looking at is these tiny bodies with no genitals and they they talk with their minds and they have enormous heads because their brains are [ __ ] huge just like our brains are far larger than than ancient man so ancient hominids so you think this is just that the trans kind of phenomenon is just a it's a transitionary period for us yeah i think we're going to realize that hormones in general and the desire to reproduce
sexually in general causes so many problems and so much so much of what we look at is inevitable like tribal warfare uh controlling resources like the the ego all these different things are connected to biological life it's connected to this need to breed this need to uh to be dominant over the other people the other the other like the reason why people want dictators like why why do dictators want control they want to be dominated over the other humans it's a natural tribal instinct to want to be the leader you want to be the one that tells the others what to do it's i mean it has to be natural because it's the default position for most cultures most cultures have a guy who's the leader like the guy who's the head of the philippines the guy who just [ __ ] shoots people kills journalists kills drug dealers yeah that but this is a default position yeah to be the dictator what's going on in myanmar what's going on in all all parts of the world where there's dictators and they they run with an iron fist what's happening with china this is in north korea this is like the default position in more cultures than not what is that i think it's connected to our biological reward system for breeding and for dominance and to to establish this uh this this hierarchy in terms of breeding i think once we get past that like as a race and i think it's going to be a long process i don't think it's going to happen in our lifetime but it could happen within the next thousand years and i think a thousand years from now i guarantee that there will be something that entices us to abandon the idea of breeding like let's like you were talking i mean it's being abandoned but look at this way you were well also like the the thing with um dr shanna swann where she was talking about um phthalates and how phthalates are literally causing phthalates or which are chemicals that are um being ingested into the human body inadvertently through plastics and leaking through uh different pesticides and different things are causing our sex organs to shrink causing sperm counts to drop by over 50 percent somewhere around 50 percent i'm not saying over but
between the invention of petrochemical products and the the use of them in our society to now sperm counts have dropped fifty percent wow and they're directly coincided with the increase in the exposure to phthalates and these phthalates it's it's spelled with a p but it's it's the like phthalates but these phthalates cause the shrinking of your taint which is apparently in baby mammals the best way to indicate male or female because taints on males generally are 50 to 100 percent larger than on females but they're shrinking over time with our exposure to phthalates huh the book is terrifying and the the conversation i had with her first of all she's this lovely lady she's this tiny little woman and she's really funny like she has on her um she's like she makes it fun to talk about the demise of the human animal oh okay because on her instagram she has the jizz quiz and the the jizz quiz is all about like like how our sperm counts are lowering i keep reading about this and just sex drives going down in general and people aren't breeding as much i was just telling something about her telling someone rather about her book but it's it's [ __ ] excellent so it's called countdown this is the book okay it's really good but it's really scary because we've put these things out into the world and people are ingesting them inadvertently through leakage and you know but they didn't know about the real damage till jeez do you remember from the podcast jamie i want to say like the tens right 2000 it was like 2011 or 2012 where they started figuring out like oh my god these phthalates that they can exhibit these changes in mammals they can study these changes in mammals where they introduce phthalates into their diet and they show their taint shrinking and their penis is shrinking and then also miscarriages rise fertility drops radically that these these are observable in mammals and now we're seeing the same trends statistically in human beings wow you you you do do you think this is a good thing no okay no
even the evolution as you kind of mention it to like let's say aliens and genderlessness and and no need to procreate is that something that's good well what is good there's a problem defined good is it good to a person that's a female that likes sex with males no it's bad if you if you like a man if you like men like an actual man like a manly man that grabs yeah i guess that's a good point if you're a man and you like women you like sexy bodies with like proportions that are like traditionally like sexually attractive to men no it's not good if that's what you like because that's gonna go away it wouldn't even you probably wouldn't even know what you're missing well i think what's gonna happen is there's gonna be something that's much more attractive whether it's some sort of a technological thing it's going to be something that they can introduce into the human body that makes it obsolete so the feelings that you get whatever good feelings you get like when a man or woman are attracted to each other it'll be far better than that and you don't have to worry about all the messiness of [ __ ] right and all the messiness of like but i mean imagine if we could um just do us one thing like see what we're doing to stop covid right what if we had something that would eliminate all rape forever right forever so this is like we're going to have to all bite the bullet and get our organs removed because we don't need them and we're going to eliminate all sex and we're going to reproduce through this machine that we've all and everybody has to have this machine in your house and you're allowed to have one baby so it'd just be it would just make make evolutionary sense even also you can't be selfish bridgette we're going to what are we going to do we're going to ruin the world with overpopulation don't be selfish no we're all going to get our organs removed and we're all going to decide that this is the way we reproduce and the government's going to dictate how many like the organ removal mandate coming down the bike listen this is where it all goes when you lose bodily autonomy uh when you're not a fan
but that's what's happening that's what's happening people don't understand this slippery slope these [ __ ] dummies that are like yeah you should get mandated because i did it i got my shot and you should get your shot take the damn shot i don't know keith olbermann yeah take the damn shot you're scared you're scared you call me mr afraid oh my wow what a good writer you survived from that sick burn it was hard it was hard it hurt yeah it cut to my to the marrow yeah i i definitely feel like that's uh that's what i don't understand is if these things i just want someone to explain it to me because i was vaccinated under the impression that then i'm cool tim dillon had a great bid on why do i need to give a [ __ ] about what anyone else is doing if i got my vaccine that's what i don't understand is this like crazy obsession to everyone must get this you're thinking logically it's it's about human control humans love to control other humans and if they can't control humans individually they like to control no i mean you're kind of like whatever get a vaccine don't like that's exactly him well i tell my fat friends to get vaccinated by the way you should i do i tell my mom to get vaccinated i tell i tell a lot of people to get vaccinated the olds the fats the thing is like this is what people don't want to hear is that it's not the only option they don't want to hear that they don't want to hear that there are therapeutic options and they don't want to hear that you should be healthy but one of them wants to hear that for my narrative one of the best things that could have happened to me was getting covered because look how quick i got over it yeah you're healthy yeah exactly but i also took the right medication yeah despite what sienna this is the other question too because my is like how how easy is it for the average person to have the kind of treatment that you got for instance monoclonal antibodies are available everywhere okay and they're available for free if you i don't know if it's if you have insurance or not in texas but in texas they have them for free but that's another fouchy thing and then we need to google this to
make sure this is true but my doctor friend told me that fauci is attempting to limit the availability of monoclonal antibodies because through his words my friend's words not mine not fouches that they are trying to discourage this as an option for unvaccinated people because it's so effective because they want people to just get vaccinated well that article that i sent you from cnn today was him being like i've been a big proponent of these and i don't know what the problem is and why you can't find them so i don't i don't well this is also the guy that told you wasn't involved in gain of research and also the guy who didn't bother to tell everybody they were torturing puppies yeah so that's that's just what i wonder because you know as we we know our health insurance is [ __ ] and i think that um i was just curious when i was seeing like when you threw the kitchen sink at it i was like well would i be able to afford that or get that treatment well all the other stuff is not expensive like z packs yeah yeah that's not expensive um prednisone is not expensive and i don't even know prednisone is good i've been told by another friend of mine who's a doctor that prednisone was not a good option and they said that prednisone actually can inhibit your immune system i don't know can you i don't know woman take horse do you worm or joe that's a good question that's a good question like is it a good thing to take if you're pregnant i don't [ __ ] know i mean nobody no no no idea i have no idea yeah but i do know that they're running studies on ivermectin they're running there's multiple studies there's a study going on in the uk there's a study going on i want to say it's in north carolina or south carolina but they wouldn't be doing this also here's another thing two hundred congress people were treated with ivf i know that's what i was reading somewhere this idea that this is a horse dewormer is so ridiculous yeah no i don't it's been given to billions of people do you know there's only 59 million horses on earth itself they gave out 90 million doses this year so far of ivermectin i think something like that yeah there's only 59 million
horses like the idea that this is for horses is so [ __ ] stupid even those stories that were coming out about um all the people who are calling into the poison control when you dig down it's like two people called but it's not even just that the rolling stone story was a full-on lie rolling stone is a joke though but how much of a joke i mean they've been a joke since they had to retract that gang rape story yeah the virginia i mean i think they lost their credibility this is really crazy because they said that there were gunshot victims waiting in line to get to the er because so many people in there were overdosing on horse pace now here's where it's a lie you have to take a [ __ ] load of ivermectin whether it's horse pace or the other to actually have to get to go to the hospital to get overdosed imagine that many people just gobbling pounds of ivermectin second of all the photo that rolling stone used was people outside wearing winter coats right it was in [ __ ] august in oklahoma it's it's so dumb yeah it's so dumb that's why people don't believe anything they shouldn't believe everything no they shouldn't but you don't where do people go to believe anything um poison control centers are fielding a surge of vibramecten overdose calls yeah you know what it wasn't like four of them it was a serious sort of like they said it was like seventy percent it's a surge jamie it was causing vaccine hesitancy that's my favorite you're contributing to vaccine hesitancy by telling about your friend who had a stroke but people are already hesitant yeah i mean somebody isn't somebody people have a right to be skeptical i read this actually the i think it was like the wall street journal just did an opinion piece about you about they're like it's time that we admit that joe like the way we framed joe was dishonest or something it was recently but at the end his big point was like it's okay for people to be skeptical i'm like yeah no [ __ ] that's what all you me people who have been raging against us have been saying is allow people the space to have questions and not delete their video off youtube if they
do but they're still doing it though they're doing it like crazy on youtube you know and you they won't allow you to have any mention of ivermectin it makes people more skeptical yeah if you have like ivermectin videos on youtube you most certainly will be demonetized yeah you you mean and you probably get a strike against you i mean the weinsteins have had strikes against their their dark horse channel i know they've they've been through a lot with this it's crazy it's crazy i mean but it's crazy because they're having conversations with evolutionary biologists and virologists and vaccine specialists and we can't take away the ability to be skeptical and ask questions that is so dangerous also you can't take away the ability for literal scholars in the field of question discussing things yeah yeah when you are some [ __ ] woke [ __ ] with a nose ring and blue hair yeah these are the people galileo up exactly it's like you you have to be able to have this kind of scientific inquiry in your society and to and the more that you try and push this one thing the more people are going to be like well it's also starting to be a little suspicious there's so much anxiety in the air and most people are cowards and in the face of cowardice in the face of fear a lot of times people just conform and they get angry when other people don't conform along with them and if they can find some sort of a rationale for shaming you or belittling you because you don't also conform even if it denies the existence of all sorts of evidence to the contrary even if it like flies in the face of a narrative that has existed forever which is don't trust pharmaceutical companies because they use people at goddamn atm machines because they just extract money from you and sell you medications that you don't necessarily need and they also work with politicians to make sure these things are available and they also have a revolving door with the fda where they take people who used to work for the fda and then they put them into [ __ ] nice cushy jobs at these pharmaceutical companies i was i was joking about how i chose the you know i chose the brand that like got
sued for the baby powder dave chappelle is a funny joke about it too oh yeah i saw it especially he's very funny it's just [ __ ] yeah i i just it's a very it's a very strange time and i wonder how much of it is people are yes people can be cowards but how much of it is also just they're being forced into an impossible choice i.e keep your job or get a shot and it's just about putting mouths you know i'm like people when you're faced with like ideology and putting food on the table people are being forced to make they're you you can't not everyone is rich enough to like stand behind their principles right and most people aren't going to do that anyway most people are scared yeah and then this is a it's a strange like colliding of ideas because you have at the same time people that are being forced to make these choices in order to keep their jobs while we're exposing lies about these people that are pushing this in the first place like it's as this the house of cards is falling they're getting more and more aggressive about pushing these narratives instead of like slowing down and and instead of like exploring treatments and instead of like having a real open conversation about the risk versus reward of using these vaccines on children instead of like looking at like hey this myocarditis that you say is mild what's the data yeah show me what's the data on people recovering from this what's the data on these young boys that are more prone to myocarditis because of these vaccines particularly the moderna vaccine which by the way they're pulling in many of these countries for people under 30. yeah outside the u.s there's other countries that are saying no we with this these adverse reactions that people are having to the modern vaccines are calling causing us to pause yeah we have a very strange relationship with pharmaceutical drug companies in this country yeah this is one of only two countries on planet earth where the pharmaceutical drug companies are allowed to advertise i know if you ever talk to europeans about
watching american television they're always just blown away by how many pharmaceutical ads there are and i like to just you know you can tell a lot about the audience like i was watching like a fox show and it's like oh the the olds are watching this show based on the pharmaceuticals but with like cnn it's all like ads for pharmaceuticals for like schizophrenics yeah and like anti-depression so they're crazies are watching this channel yeah well the the anxiety-ridden people are watching cnn there's no liberals or whatever first of all i think there's a probably direct correlation between the lack of guns in the household and them being anxiety written because for real and do you know how many [ __ ] liberal friends that i have that are and again it seems like now looking for guns again yeah i guess it's ramped up again yeah oh we went through this the last time i was here all of our liberal friends were calling us the supply chain yeah they are but the supply chain is changing uh access to certain things like bullets and stuff like it's really hard to get bullets right now and people are kind of freaking i've had people talk to me about how to get bullets it's so weird too because we were you know i think of a lot about like the flight people that all the flight attendants the pilots like they were flying through the whole pandemic yep they were i went to freaking south africa in february in the middle of the like south african strain which they're not allowed to call those things anymore and it was can you call it an english train i bet you could if there's a strain in england probably the english train yeah oh fine england is a very diverse place now yeah like it's not we think of english as being all white people you go over to english you find a lot of people from pakistan yeah yeah it's very diverse very diverse but if you had an english strain you might be able to pull it off i mean it did it was funny to me that you couldn't call it i was like well they can't call like the chinese virus but they're calling it the south african
strain this seems like a very strange conflict well that's the really super hardcore conservative tv shows like oan and yeah those are real the hardcore ones those ones all called the chinese flu oh do they hate still the chinese virus the chinese virus that's what freaking trump called our next president probably that's why they do it because their their supporters are probably yeah i love how they called the chinese virus do you think he's i mean i was so wrong i thought for sure i thought for sure he was gonna win i wrote a whole piece about what i got wrong and i've been wrong about so many things and the last time i sat down with you i think it was right bef was it after the election or right before it i think it was right before there's enough people that were terrified of him and the media did a really good job of freaking everybody out about the possibilities like look we've dodged this but do you think that he's 20 24 oh he's he's going to win he thought this i thought if he stays alive well here's the thing i don't think biden i think he's like rocky training losing weight biden is a real biden has a real possibility of not making it in terms of like his body like that thing that he did the other day he's locked up and also just the way he talks he's clearly struggling and you know i have a friend and she lost her dad to alzheimer's yeah and she was saying this is i watched all this and she goes and then he was dead yeah yeah and this is this is coming i mean this is [ __ ] coming i don't this is what i talked about when i was when i when people were mad at me and they were yours trump supported that's not what i said what i said is i would vote for trump before i vote for biden because biden is severely mentally compromised this is what i was thinking back then yeah it's way worse now now everybody knows it now no one can lie like it's just there yeah these things where he just starts rambling and he called someone the president of pennsylvania like he says crazy [ __ ] like that he like you know he said the other day i was a president of the united states for 36 years like the he said he was the vice president he was down at the border yeah he was in 2008 apparently right
drove right through real fast in a limo i've been to the border sure i've been there i've been there how about a chicken that lock-up thing was that was that was strange i was i said on dumpster fire he looks like a baby taking a poo like you know like behind his nappies behind a chair maybe he's trying to hold back diarrhea maybe he's innocent it's just so weird i it's such a yeah so then we have this i i was you know what he looked like i'm mentally preparing myself for i i i'm mentally preparing myself for trump running and maybe winning only because i worry about the mental health of everyone around me in the event that that happens here's how he could lose if like ron desantis got together with greg abbott and they created a republican party of people that ran states in a way that kept businesses open and everybody wants a [ __ ] on florida including people from like billy corbin's running in here running all these numbers about people in florida like yeah a lot of people in florida died from the virus they also died in california california and when you adjust to age when you age adjust like how many people died it's not really much of a difference but for olds in florida a lot of old yeah but florida's economy did [ __ ] way better way better right i mean it really didn't suffer the way california's economy weird that they don't take these things into consideration at all exactly so did texas but i think people that have lost their businesses people that have taken a big hit those people do look at these people that are not forcing mandates won't enforce them and then did allow these things to stay open if they can get those two guys together they might be able to pull it off yeah but do you think those two are gonna take the risk of running against trump in a primary and alienating their entire base i don't know if they would be alienating their entire base i don't know it depends i mean he's still got a lot of support it does and maybe they think that he's the best way to win i don't know but here's the thing the real problem is on the left the real problem is on the left because a president kamala harris is
poisoned that's not happening no one wants that and then the other thing is biden it's like i don't know if he can make it and the idea of voting for him again and pretending that he's doing a good job is crazy i want to reach out to when i right before the election i had people emailing me i am politically homeless at gmail.com and they were not yours yeah i am politically homeless at gmail yeah well we have a subject too um so we started a sub stack because i want to start posting a lot of these letters with people's permission and my husband and i are starting a podcast and it's it's fascinating i want to reach out to all the people who said they were voting for biden and it was all people people who came from the right to the center people i mean thousands of emails right before the election tim poole actually was like talking all about this on his show right before because it was why i really and i'm sure a lot of it is confirmation bias but it was really why i thought trump was going to win because so many people were red-pelled and i think it is conversation buyers because there's so many people that just did not want him in the office anymore he's so polarizing and they were also hoping he wore people down yes they were also hoping that once he got into office he was gonna change and become more presidential right and drop that sort of bombastic rhetoric and he didn't and he can't i mean i always said the only person who could beat trump as trump and i think that's actually what happened like he just could not get out of his own way true though if biden beat him i mean i think but i think if he had been able to get out of his own way long enough and like you said be less of the kind of narcissistic personality that he is he might have been able to win i think what's going to make him win is biden as a president i think biden being a president where you know we're not talking about biden from 1988 we're talking about biden from 2021 and he's got problems and it's like we're all going to have those [ __ ] problems when we're 78 years old well i do think the problems people are experiencing now
in america compared to what they were experiencing with trump which were maybe more psychological are a lot more real like information yeah having a lot more effect on their money and their life and their mandates and businesses and and that wasn't necessarily the case there was a lot of people just really losing their minds and what's interesting is trump is very pro-vaccine he's just not very pro mandates he's very pro-vaccine he's telling people we should get the vaccine i got the vaccine i'm happy and he got the vaccine after he was sick so he got covered got through it and then got vaccinated on top of that yeah look i think that we're if someone can come along and offer real legitimate solutions to the problems that we're facing that aren't getting any better yeah did you see that [ __ ] the uh the pile of people that came through the border yeah the the mexican police tried to stop and then they came charging through did you see that that was recent yeah yesterday yeah [ __ ] insane a caravan of it looked like i don't know how many tens of thousands of people people they look like bert's entire crowd in tallahassee that wasn't was that in mexico or is that yeah yeah that would and these are the things i think the average american is very concerned about they're concerned about inflation they're concerned that their dollar isn't going as far this is one of the i had a trucker on my podcast and i said what are what you know what's the big the conversation we're having the people who are having conversations and the people who are kind of on the ground what is the what's the stuff that's missing like what might we be missing and over and over i just heard from people in my dm's inflation they're like when people start realizing that that dollar isn't worth anything it's gonna be make sure you have guns and on that note we just did do we did three and a half hours oh wow crazy we could do this every time that's crazy you and i can't stop talking i know we together we're like
to him now oh i know we had a lot of catching up i know we do we did we got to do it again we got to do more often well we're definitely not staying in um california yeah as soon as my husband has his license we're uh come on i think the market's flattening out so yes it is until like they start vaccinating kids in california and they'll start piling in here i love you love you it's always a pleasure so much tell everybody how to get to your podcast uh how to get into watkins welcome oh yeah dumpster fire find me on twitter that's where i still live unfortunately although follow me on instagram i'm i'm more active there these days getting healthier i'm getting healthier why you have a child inside of your body i recommend staying the [ __ ] off twitter look for the uh me dancing pregnant videos on instagram heyo um and that's all bridgette fantasy you can find watkins welcome anywhere podcasts are available that is my baby it deserves so much love i have dumpster fire on rumble i'm gonna promote rumble um it's also on youtube but go follow me on rumble and i have fantasy.com is my where we have like unedited dumpster fire which is really where the real [ __ ] is and that's just where there's a nice community i do workouts with the girls in there with the women every day super fun women women and um yeah that's your podcast is awesome too it's very funny it's it's infectiously fun like your laughter and and also very insightful it's like it's a perfect combination of intelligent and funny the dumpster fire one all of us oh everything you do i love watkins because i get to talk to people like you know we've had megyn kelly have been on again shapiro he's hopeful um yeah he is moved to florida that's why he's hopeful because people are moving with their feet and he said it's easier to be hopeful in places like texas and florida yes but he's like no hope for california but yeah so we have amazing huge guests for it's like the little podcast that could okay and joe told me to start it so you have to listen yay i'm glad you listen all right bye everybody bye [Applause]
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