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the jurogan experience so what about uh i like can we talk about river mexican yeah sure so it's i covered it what they did in mexico city and ivermectin seems to be a drug that not only treats it but it will prevent you from getting it i think we need studies we need legitimate studies and uh i don't know how that happens because the problem with this argument this conversation is you know you'll you'll have people saying i've used this on my patients like dr pierre corey who has been on this podcast and i 100 believe him and i support him and i'm not saying he's not telling the truth the problem is i think in order to state something emphatically like this is what we need to do this is the best treatment we need studies right this is the only way you find out and well who's going to fund this understanding and the problem is it's a generic drug that's it no it's a drug that's been around for 40 years has a long history of use and also there's a difference between using it as a prophylactic so using it as a preventative measure which is one of the things that dr pierre corey talked about on this podcast i forget where they used this but it was uh this there was hundreds of doctors and then there was a percentage of them that used uh ivermectin as a prophylactic and there's a percentage that did not the percentage did that did not half of the doctors roughly or half of the healthcare workers got coveted the percentage that did use it as a prophylactic 100 percent did not get it now i don't know if they got lucky this is why you need a large study and it's a long-term study maybe i don't know what was their job different than the people who got it i don't know that's the problem yeah so when i'm talking i'm a [ __ ] comedian and a cage fighting commentator and i'm talking about very important issues i have to hedge my opinions on these things know right it's tricky
but it in a but in an environment where people aren't allowed to talk or question things you know um well for instance um my doctor so when i uh i got the vaccine i got to double and which one did you get i got the moderna because i have an underlying health problem i don't want and i've talked about before we all talked about it yeah and uh so my doctor because my people are like why did you you trust the government i know i don't trust the government you trust big pharma no i don't trust big pharma i trusted my doctor right my doctor who saved my life and said that because of your thing you should get it because we don't know how it's going to affect you and you blah blah blah so i got it and then you know i just the you know the symptoms you get from it uh they never went away for me what were your symptoms so i had uh body aches flu-like fever uh i had joint pain i had a stiff neck have you tried going in an ice bath for 20 minutes sorry yeah yeah how long did it yeah it's still cold i'm just warming up now i could tell is uh when you how long did it last how long do your symptoms last so on on april 17th i got the second jab and i just never got better was it immediate before this the after the first jab did you have side effects yes but they went away and then the second jab how long did they last after the first shot i don't remember because a couple days yeah it was like maybe a week i think a week and um and then the second time they just never went away and i was like what is going on because i would get these waves of exhaustion a couple times a day and then my producer had the same stuff after at the fifth week i had a stiff neck he got a stiff neck and my wife got a stiff neck and we all got the stiff neck on the side where we got the shot so i got it on this side they got it on that side and then i looked it up and it turns out stiff neck
is a thing that people experience from the jab and i was like i didn't know that they don't tell you that and so that's common i'm like okay and then it spread to the whole neck okay now my producer and my wife it went away their stiff necks went away mine didn't so anyway so i go to so i i tweeted about it i tweeted like hey this is just let everybody know this is what's happened this is my reaction to the vaccine yeah and because uh when people started to come on me like call me anti-vaxx and you're i'm like no i got the vacs i got it i go when people have a reaction to an experimental vaccine that is not fda approved you're supposed to not suppress the reactions you're supposed to ask people what the reactions are so we could make the vaccines better that's a thing that when jen saki's talking about misinformation online and combating misinformation she distributed misinformation of course because she said that it's approved by the fda in their gold standard she said that she said that it is not approved when you go to get the vaccine pull up pull it pull that up let's make sure that she said i'm 99 positive she said that because i remember reading that going you can't say that when you're the white house press secretary because that's not a true statement this is it's approved for emergency use authorization because we're in the middle of a pandemic right that's an emergency yes but it's not an fda approved joe when you go get this jab they give you a piece of paper and on it in bold black letters it says this is not an fda approved vaccine right and they think you see that and i'm like yeah they go uk with that yeah i guess my doctor said i'm supposed to be here and sign it yeah i found the transcript of it i didn't find the video well okay i'm pretty sure i saw the video but i definitely have read the transcript and i want this to be
accurate because it's a big accusation this is what she said here when someone asked about the mystery what is this from whitehouse.gov okay um so you know more than just a competition about vaccines risk impact uh okay here it is um misleads the public by falsely alleging that mrna vaccines are untested and thus risky even though many of them are approved and have gone through the gold standard of the fda approval process that's right that's not true so she's saying many of the mrna vaccines right there's only two that are mrna vaccines that's messenger rna that is the pfizer and the moderna that's the ones that we use in america um the johnson johnson is it's an adinovirus vaccine it's different as is the astrazeneca right the astrazeneca i believe is very similar to the johnson and johnson they're different but the point is yeah the johnson johnson uses the old technology and the modern and pfizer they use the ones that was developed by darpa yeah but the point is it's like it's not fda approved yes no because that takes a while so if she's saying that right this is is that misinformation it is it seems like it and it's if it says it when you get the jab and it says it in bold print and you so your experience even though you you this is your personal experience and you did get vaccinated people are so rabid online oh my god it is the most divisive subject i think ever since trump it really is it is a nutty divisive subject and people just get furious about it and they're furious if anybody talks about any negative side effects even if it's accurate i know so so i i had tweeted about it just because i was i want to see if other people have this experience and you know maybe it's just me maybe it's not so i got contacted by lots of people same experience and i got contacted by a doctor who's leading a bunch of other doctors a group of doctors and studying
this and they just submitted a paper on people about the vaccine right and so uh he tells me over at dm this is what we think is happening this is a spiked protein you're suffering from a spike protein thing and blah blah blah and go to see your doctor and hopefully your doctor will work with us and give me ivermectin and fluvoxamine i'm taking for inflammation in my brain you have inflammation in your brain well that's because it causes inflammation so the spike proteins cause inflammation and so they did some kind of blood test on me and they said yeah you got the thing was it a d dimer test is that what it was joe you got me but they said you look you're you are you have the same you're right where a long haul coveted person is like whatever the markers were i had the same thing you're right there and so might i go to my doctor and i'd start to explain to my doctor about what this other doctor told me and my doctor says oh i'm treating five people just like you and one of them is a neurosurgeon and one of them is a nurse and they were afraid to talk about their symptoms because they were afraid to be ostracized and stigmatized and i'm like what a messed up strange situation we're in in this culture right when they politicize medicine where doctors and medicine medical professionals are afraid to talk about their symptoms that's horrible it's also putting people on a position where big pharma is the good guy now yeah which has never happened never and especially the the exact same companies that people were openly criticizing in the past and and showing pointing out lawsuits they've lost for hiding information about test results about things that have uh happened during studies and these these same people are now ignoring any any possible side effects it's it's nuts so
i mean how do we make it better how do we know maybe some people i mean that suppression of data is not the way you improve a vaccine the suppression of people's symptoms and data that is not you've no in anything it's not how it works that's how they want it to work because of trump because if you say it's just crazy it is crazy even that hydrochloroquine right that hydroxychloroquine yeah hydroxychloroquine that trump was touting and they were like he's nuts because he's touting it i didn't know anything about uh but then all of a sudden studies came out that say hey no that actually has been helping so now they have we have contrary contradicting studies right i just it was a news week i wasn't making it i didn't pull it out of some crazy thing it's an establishment mainstream news thing i'm pretty sure it was newsweek and i tweeted it out and i said hey can we stop now can we stop uh politicizing medical science can we get back to just doing medical science again and asking questions how much damage did trump do on that one the one conversation he had maybe do something like cleaning something with you so much damage you do completely right like uh you could kill it with lights it's gonna be a miracle like that one thing where people like what the [ __ ] is because he was riffing yes he was clearly riffing he didn't prepare for this he probably just got didn't eaten a [ __ ] double cheeseburger and he's like [Laughter] this he's you know because he's a salesman he's just a big bro because he's so divisive like everyone is still it's it's almost like do you know like if you got in a fight with someone like maybe your neighbor and then you got in your car and there was a road incident and you're like get the [ __ ] out of here you're already so ramped up yeah because of the fight you got in with your neighbor yeah this is what the whole country's
like that's you're that's a great analogy that's what it's like it's like the whole country just got in a fight with the neighbor like he's putting his trash can on your lawn yeah hey you [ __ ] keep them on your own side you piece of [ __ ] and then you're in your car [ __ ] and this is like the whole country is like at eight out the door out the door in their car already at eight and a scale one to ten they're already ready to go and so whether it's the vaccine or whether it's the border wall or whether it's kids in cages or what the [ __ ] whatever it is everybody's so goddamn angry and ready to go and then you deal with the economic crisis that a giant percentage of the country just went through over the past year and then losing loved ones to this [ __ ] disease and all this chaos and all that and so many people who have never experienced like high levels of adversity and all of a sudden they're confronted with it if you've played it safe your whole life you've really never done anything risky never taken any chances you've had a regular life with a regular job you play it safe and then all sudden now you're [ __ ] and you're confronted with a perhaps deadly disease that might take you out and you've got all these other problems in the world and everybody's like and they don't have the coping skills they don't have the ability to handle these things and that's where we find ourselves as a country right now and it's weird because then you have that with the echo chamber aspect of social media where everybody's just looking for positive reinforcement of their own ideas and confirmation bias it's wild catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost
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