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The jogan Experience so in your experience in all these other countries and well when you you see all these different um you know regimes getting toppled you don't think there's any American influence in these things happening I think weic really you don't think the CIA is that good I've I've actually I I'm a CIA nerd I'm one of those like like I'm not a gamer but I'm a guy who about 25 years ago started reading up on the Kennedy assassination got completely obsessed with that and then it just I'm I'm these guys I read footnotes and if a footnote leads me to another book to another book you know I disappear down the rat hole for 10 years reading everything so I'm really did you ever read best evidence uh yeah um you know my my feeling is we're just if history has taught us anything and if you read all of the documents from all of the controversial periods of CIA uh operations we we just don't seem to be very good at these things and and everybody rats and writes a book about it immediately after it happened so if it went well you can be sure you'd be reading about it or would been leak to a magazine by now you know so I just I don't think I that's so sad I don't think we're that good uh and I I I certainly don't think we have much of an of an appetite for controlling the Universe I think we're we're doing it we seem to be work very working very hard to hold the dam um so you think the speculation about the CIA being involved like they're probably just very very peripherally involved and there's just [ __ ] happening no matter sure list there are major CIA operations going on right now without without doubt but I think this notion that there's an office somewhere where the whole fate of the world is is sort of decided what countries we're going to invade over the next 10 years uh we're just not that good and we're not definitely not that secure there's always you know three people know about something it's the greatest argument about the Kennedy you know the 9/11 conspiracy theory idiots um the Kennedy assassination uh lumy Tunes um if basically in this country if three more than three people know about a thing one of them is going to be on the stand crying about it the other guy's going to
be writing a book about it and maybe two guys will keep their mouth shut I think today I don't think during the time of the Kenny assassination it would have been that difficult to hide things I think uh things were less much less transparent back then than were today yeah but his that's what's great about history you know eventually if you're willing to wait around to my view to my view if you're willing to wait around all every boring Grim detail will will eventually come out and and if you as in the Kennedy said someone I don't know who said it they described the mafia Theory as the halfway house for failed conspiracy theorists it's like after you decided the CIA didn't do it you know the FBI did it's like yeah okay well it was the mafia you know and there's of course there's all this great evidence to support that theory but but but ultimately I'm I'm of the Oswell got a lucky shot really Theory I I read best evidence and that's one of the reasons why I first started believing there was some sort of a conspiracy that was uh one of the one of the first things that I saw that made me really reconsider but later in life the thing that really got me was the Northwoods document if you never heard of that it's some thing that they drafted in the 1960s or 1960 where U 61 or 62 where Kennedy actually vetoed it and all the Joint Chiefs of sta The Joint Chiefs of Staff signed it and they were going to have fake American uh Terror attacks we're going to get a a plane they were going to have a drone plane explod it and say a bunch of people died and they were going to attack Guantanamo Bay and they were going to arm Cuban friendlies to attack Guantanamo Bay because we wanted to go to war this was this was this uh Cuban Missile Crisis era there there were there were so many complet see this is what to me what's interesting about Kennedy's assassination conspiracy it's there was so much wacky [ __ ] going on around that time so much of it embarrassing um criminal scary funny really silly going on at that time that in fact the least interesting thing about the entire you know big picture of the Kennedy assassination is the actual assassination itself because what everybody else was up to at the time and
covering up was just like right out of a movie you know the CIA his meeting with you know Johnny relli and all these Mafia guys to whack out Castro uh you know uh there there was just so much other embarrassing [ __ ] going on that in many ways those stories and where they lead are a lot more entertaining complex and and fun than than a story of a guy you know shooting a president so if you believe that Lee Harvey Oswell acted alone what do you think about when you see the like the Oliver Stone movie does that drive you [ __ ] crazy it would have I would have liked the film a lot better um if they just stuck with a historical record and he invented scenes and characters you know which I thought was as a as a as a Kennedy assassination character didn't exist right and and there were just certain things were just do mention that the Garrison jury was out for like 30 seconds please mention that Jim Garrison is a man of many interesting local uh a man with an interesting past let's put it that way what way not a he did not uh not a a reputation that was debatable let's put it that way um which is never good the case was bad I mean he put a lot of very interesting stuff together and there was and all of it was like fascinating in a lot of ways a lot of it was was almost more interesting than the than the there wasn't I don't believe in the octopus Theory I think you had a lot of really interesting very spooky characters who'd been doing a lot of really Sinister uh and interesting [ __ ] for a long time whether or not they were actually involved in the the Kennedy assassinations almost moot because they were up to some really other wacky stuff did the magic bullet theory bother you at all I think if you talk and I have talked to uh people who served in combat for a long time the story of the buddy who gets around through front of his helmet it it travels around subcutaneously around the skull and enters out the back without hurting the guy uh is everybody's got [ __ ] happens [ __ ] happens I I willing to believe that magic bullet theory I would be willing to believe it except for the fact that they came up with it because a guy got hit with a Ricochet under the bridge and so they had to attribute everything to three
shots and I was like God that seem seems like [ __ ] Shifty L I don't know what what they call when you've eliminated all the other suspect uh you know you're left with the likely truth I think and I I to my satisfaction I've kind of eliminated the other suspects Woody haralson's dad didn't have any part of it grassy wasn't he like rumored to be one of the shooters it's a mean you know wasn't that part of yes of course but every Howard hunt was supposed to be there like you know everybody's there you know it's like Ronald McDonald is there why is that so sexy why is it so sex I want to believe so badly big foot log Nest monster UFOs Kennedy the whole deal it's way more fun to think that Lee Harvey oswal was a py but remember he was a really interesting guy if you I think the book that got it close got it most right uh was a work of fiction a Libra by Don delilo where it it really gets inside uh Oswald's head I mean Oswald was a guy who who uh his favorite show as a teenager was I led three lives about an undercover FBI uh agent he was an intelligent he was a spy junkie in in today's world he would have been a gamer you know nut gamer he wanted to be he he he was a guy who kind of wanted to to be uh to do big things and and he tried very hard he wanted to be super secret KGB agent he wanted to be super secret you know wanted to be a marine he probably volunteered to the FBI a couple of times he was just a guy who wanted to do something big um so I I don't have a problem buying it so you had no problem with the allegations of them fixing autopsy photos I had problems with all of it because I was lost in it for 10 years but the Kennedy family had very good reason to ask for you know the brain I mean he had Addison's disease and the implications of of Addison's disease uh towards the the Kennedy history were not favorable you know apparently I don't know but apparently it has been said that he had multiple bouts of cus this is you know you don't want the family didn't want the Pres you know people they want this part of the record there was ofus holla at your boy those are the days president was worth it a fetamines in in large doses at that early at his point who knows what he's he really uh he had a Dr Max Jacobson I believe I believe was the name he did
have a doctor who would shoot him with the vitamin I think B12 and amphetamine according to one of the B12 mixed with speed that's how that dude was really not uncommon at certain levels it was very you know Society thing to do back then it's 5 Hour Energy drink that's what it is I think a lot of people didn't even know that was he was the original doctor he was known as Dr Feelgood and that's where the name came from Dr I believe it was Dr Max Jacobson I I I don't know legendary wow sort of doctor to the stars back in the warhall and Kennedy's disease what did it have to was it a motor skill thing what is it that I don't I but but apparently there were a there are in the symptoms the possible symptoms I think there can be emotional uh an emotional content to the disease so theoretically it could have affected his judgment it was it was unflattering it I believe he was in a lot of this was a guy in a lot of pain too yeah supposedly right yeah but back then you just didn't want to talk about these things and and I think a lot of people uh ran around in circles covering things up for their own uh reasons and in fact most of them had really terrible things to cover up that back then thing is really fascinating when you think about it it's not that long ago I was listen I was alive for I remember being sent home from school when Kennedy was killed Kennedy was killed and um but I I you know I I go for the simple explanation much of the time it's a good move um I keep myself I keep the crazy open I I open the door for crazy because I've seen some things I leave it open I but I I agree with you most of the time I go with a simple door with crop circles and UFOs and the lock nice monster and Bigfoot most of the time I go for the simple door people are full of [ __ ] and that story sucks that's how I usually go but I leave the door for crazy [Music] [Applause] open [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Laughter] you're a [ __ ] human being