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the jurogan experience you know i've gotten a a bunch of messages since that film came out from other olympic athletes and um it's been either a mix of like hey man i'm thank you so much or it's just like not mad at me just like what the [ __ ] and and then you know like like i was actually like invited um it was the uh uh the bobsled team uh that when they actually disqualified the russian bobsled team and uh uh the u.s bobsled team was then gonna get the third place medal they like invited me to the ceremony i didn't go but you know it was uh crazy jordan said that the i guess in 2020 and 2024 the russians can't fly a flag like they they cannot they can't be represented like they have to be individual athletes from russia at at the olympics in 2020 and uh tokyo it's 2021 now yeah and then 2024 those olympics you can't have a russian flag like you literally can't because of what happened that you exposed in your documentary well that's that's true however if you if you follow the the story post icarus with rachankov is russia was supposed to turn over this lims data which was this laboratory information management system data in order to be reinstated into into world sport that was part of the water requirements and they never basically turned it over so water basically had to go after them go after them go after them they reinstate them without turning over the data then they turn over the data this is now december of 2019 or january it was not that long ago about a year ago and when they turn over the data they had literally manipulated all the data and they had already got a copy of it
from rechenkov and another guy in the lab and they literally put notes into this lims data basically trying to frame rachenkov for like money laundering and taking bribes and all this [ __ ] but wada knew that this wasn't legitimate because they had the real databases already so they go and they say okay now russia's banned for another four years right wow and in the meantime russia is putting out in the media that rechenkov has tried to commit suicide because of like the exposure that he was apparently you know taking bribes for money which he wasn't russia denies it again and then it goes to the court of arbitration for sport this is literally just like a couple months ago so they were supposed to be facing another four-year total ban like that's what watta was recommending like the entire federation is gone and the court of arbitration for sport which is corrupt as hell basically knocks it down to two years instead of four years and then basically does what they did in the 2018 olympics which is okay any russian athlete who hasn't tested positive can compete but they can't compete under their country's flag but if you saw icarus how would you know whether or not they were positive or not because they were swapping out the urine they were breaking into the bottles so it's uh it's like yeah they're kind of banned and at the same time they're all gonna be there and this was looked at it like a huge win for russia in the meantime brechankov literally sits in isolation in hiding under protection um but the guy just got asylum so you gotta tell him here right he got asylum you don't have to wear the headphones you don't want are they uncomfortable no they just kind of were like echoing a lot if there's a way to maybe take down the reverb on them or something i like them echoing really do you hear echo
echo there's a volume control is that better yeah i think that's better um so rachenkov has got asylum here in america yeah so he's got asylum here in america and that story is crazy too so you know uh in icarus you see this scene where basically like i see him off at the airport and that was july of 2016. so we keep you know making the film the film comes out august 2017 and then five months later essentially because of the film the ioc and the reasoned decision comes forward and bans russia and they cite icarus as one of their their main reasons for doing that in the meantime rachenkov is literally trying to get political asylum and on the day of his asylum hearing this was now a year and a half two years ago i need to get with his lawyers to get the exact date russia files drug trafficking charges against him in russia on the actual day that he's supposed to go in for his asylum hearing so what this means is that russia had a mole within the u.s immigration system knowing that this was the day that prachanka was supposed to get his as his asylum and under international law anybody who's been charged with drug trafficking right is basically immediately ineligible for asylum so there's like a couple of like you know things that you can be charged for that basically makes it you can't get asylum so they charge him with drug trafficking and the court then gets kicked out and it takes him another year and a half two years to get his asylum and he finally just got his asylum like four four months ago something like that wow crazy and so but he's still in hiding right because he's got to worry about being assassinated oh yeah i mean he's he's still in hiding i mean i've i've been able to keep in touch with the guy here and there through like basically through the lawyers and then they'll arrange through the security and then we'll you know find an
encrypted way to like have a conversation and and um last time i spoke to him was about two months ago and you know the conversation always goes like hey gregory how are you and he goes uh i'm alive and i could go uh that that's great you know and he goes i'm like so how are you doing he's like brian bryan i have to tell you he's like you know you saved my life and uh uh i mean it's it's it's heavy it's really heavy i mean we've we've tried for three years now to try to get him a dog because you know he loves dogs and he lives by himself and you know he really doesn't have communication with the outside world um my understanding is that he'll go out you know for like an hour a day for a walk with like protection around him um i don't know where he lives i don't i don't have his phone number but his security you know doesn't want to have a dog because if he has a dog that means he has to you know go outside and he's got to walk the dog he's not really able to communicate with his family hasn't seen his family for you know four years now his wife and his kids are back in russia so i mean this has been a this has been a crazy cost for for blowing the whistle didn't they take his wife and his children didn't didn't they take their fam their family home away well after he uh after he got here and then all this started to unfold um what i was told is that they basically like froze the assets um of the family he had a adacha which is like a summer home and apparently they uh they seized that and they seized bank accounts um and they brought in the family to interrogate them and they uh they took their their passports um from what i've heard um is that his kids have their passports back and the wife does too but you know you can make the logical
conclusion that they're hoping that they travel because if they then could travel and they then go and see gregory right they're going to be able to find them but you know to my knowledge the family has been pretty much left alone it was it was bad for a little bit um but over the last few years um i've heard that you know that that they're okay and you know none of the none of the family wants to wants to to come because even if they do then that means that their lives are now in isolation in hiding so for them to come and basically you know visit gregory or to come and and move you know to be with him because he could technically get his wife here now that he has asylum but then her life is going to be in isolation and she's got family back in russia so it's it's uh it's complicated and this goes on for the rest of his life well i mean arguably for the rest of his life i mean when you look at you know uh michael scherwitz of the of the new york times did a story i don't remember it's probably about a year ago and he was looking at all these kind of like um murders that that were [Music] tied to putin and russia and one of the stories that he came out with um was basically this guy who was living in the ukraine he was working for the gas company right and he uh i can't remember if he it was an attempted murder or no the guy gets killed and they catch the guy the assassin who goes to kill him and they pulled him up on trial and when they catch this assassin apparently he's got a a piece of paper on him it's got a a list of names right of like basically like you know like uh kill names and this guy who they arrest and i know i'm botching the story a little bit and you can go back it was uh
uh was in you know part of the new york times daily and um and this guy that they go and arrest um basically goes yes i i've been hired i don't know why but you know my job is basically to to kill these people so they start going through the list and none of these people are really known it turns out that the guy that he had been hired to kill into ukraine who was now living like a normal life in the ukraine he had apparently helped broker weapons deal to the chechens right and this was like whatever 15 years ago and here this guy's living this quiet life in the ukraine working for the power company and 12 years later they come and get them i mean you look at the case of uh scurple you know the guy that they poisoned with novichok a few years in salisbury that was another case where you know the guy had that was in england right yeah that was in england the guy had been you know out of sight out of mind for uh for for 15 years um you look at even the poisoning of alexander luthernanko in 2006 well at the time that they actually poisoned lothanenko with with polonium he had already been living in london for like seven or eight years he had he had fled to the uk that long ago so the whole piece that the michael shorts had wrote uh and put forward in the new york times was essentially that you know they don't forget and there's just and there's just you know a list and when they feel that that they can strike uh they do catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free
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