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the jurogan experience in your documentary you did a race you tried to do a an icarus which is amazing documentary if you haven't seen it i recommend it highly you did a race clean and then you were gonna do a race all juiced up and you went to him and he was the head of the russian anti-doping federation is that what it is yeah so so gregory rachankov um basically the premise was um is is i i felt that the entire doping system in sport was a fraud and and the reason why i i had this belief was is i'd i'd followed lance armstrong my whole life a guy confesses in 2013 but if you had actually followed that story it's kind of like what you're saying about you know russia's ban from the olympics but they're not really banned and they just can't wear their outfit well in the case of of lance well yeah he confessed to doping but the guy to this day never was actually caught and here's this guy had passed like i don't know five six hundred tests so as he confesses and i'd been a cycling fan a lifelong cyclist i'm going wait wait wait um you caught the guy based on a criminal investigation but you didn't catch him based on the science and if you can't test the most and if you can't catch the most tested athlete on planet earth well what does this mean for every other athlete on planet earth and so the idea was as i was going to do like a super size me in the world in the world of of sport i was going to race clean and then the next year i was going to dope the hell out of myself take testosterone hgh epo i mean hcg i was up to do anything i mean i was i was literally like injecting myself with like you know it was like uh 10 syringes a day it was just so stupid and uh and then literally like i'm going to getting blood tests to like build my biological passport to like test my hematocrit so like every other week i'm literally going to get my blood drawn
i'm pissing to like you know build like my whole steroid profile to basically try to evade testing so i get connected to this guy gregory rachankov and at the time he's running rusada which is the i'm sorry the water lab the world anti-doping lab uh for moscow which is like the third largest uh you know anti-doping lab in the world at the time this is now uh 2014 20 2015 and gregory bases like yes i'll help you dope and i'll help you evade testing and uh i'll basically show you how you can game the system and i'm like this is nuts like the guy who just did all the testing for the sochi olympics and is running the entire anti-doping lab in russia is basically going to like test my samples and show me how to cheat like what's going on here so the two of us start working he comes to the united states he comes to los angeles we have a great time i then go do this next race completely doped out of my mind and i'm like taking blood samples i'm taking urine and right after this race i hop on a plane i go to moscow and i'm like hanging out with gregory for like a month and he takes all my samples into the lab and there was this investigation already going on and i was like okay something's off here and so i spend this month in russia and i come back what was the investigation that was already going on so in uh in the in 2015 um wada releases in the i can't remember exactly when it was it was like early uh like march of 2015 something like that the world anti-doping agency had already been investigating the moscow laboratory and they come out with this uh with this report that they believe that gregory richekov is like the mastermind of this space state sponsored doping operation and they've got a bunch of evidence but they had no idea it was like i mean they had like
literally like the tip of a pinky and and the size of the scandal was basically you know like an entire an entire body i mean they literally just had the tip of the pinky but the temp of the pinky was so bad that they shut down the moscow lab gregory is now the fall guy he's forced to resign and you know and putin's basically on television going like look look whatever you want to believe none of this is true we've never doped we don't cheat these are all lies oh and by the way he says anybody who is responsible for this crime will be punished so basically putin is literally on television going gregory rachankov is is going under the bus and gregory is in moscow and we had you know been working together he calls me up and he's like but i am brian i need to escape and i'm like um uh okay when he's like now i need to leave now and i'm like uh like like now like as and now he's like yes yes i need a flight now and i'm literally sitting there on skype and i start doing a search for moscow los angeles and i'm like well uh there's there's a flight in like 12 hours and he's like okay i'm like you want me to book that flight he's like yes book the flight if i put it on my credit card they'll know you'll have to put it on your credit card so i literally booked this flight put it on my credit card and a day later here's gregory in los angeles and about a month into him being in l.a and you know shit's going down in russia i'm like look man you got to tell me what happened and he opens up and you know and that's was icarus i mean it was it's amazing it was crazy the way it unfolded in the documentary it's it couldn't have been written better like if it was a drama it
was a scripted drama it could not have been written better and the fact that it was all just circumstance just all happened all happened at the right time it's an amazing documentary and for a person like jordan burroughs who was here yesterday it it was too much he literally had to shut it off i told i convinced him to watch the rest of it i go you have to i go it's so good it's so crazy catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience