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the jurgen experience but you know the since we're on this topic can we talk a little bit of vaccines because i'm it's something i've i have seen a lot of misinformation like on everywhere facebook on you know different news media outlets and and i think there's really like some some main ones that that i just feel are causing harm and so um there's really eight of them we don't need to talk about all of them but i think the eight really are that you know sars cove two is not that bad copa 19 is not that bad and you know vaccines basically don't prevent transmission spike protein from vaccines are cytotoxic therefore they're really bad um that vaccines are going to cause something called antibody dependent enhancement which is going to make you have a more severe disease there's the vaccines are going to cause infertility there's the um vaccines are going to cause a more violent virulent strain or variant and then there's one more that alternatives to vaccines exist right now that are just as good and i think that there's a few of those that are really i mean just like blatantly they're wrong all of them i think there but i mean you know there's some that are more important than others and i think that i would like to talk about them um you know i think first and foremost the there's like two groups of people mostly one take thinks copenhagen's bad doesn't want it guess wants the vaccine and the other one that thinks it's not that bad and uh that the vaccines may be harmful and there's do you think that vaccines are harmful to anyone well of course i mean do you know anyone that's had bad reactions to vaccines i personally interestingly the only i know a lot of people that have gotten vaccinated and the only person that i know that had
something was like she had a headache for like a week and a half and then it went away um oh no another person i knew had like nausea for like a couple of weeks they were like nauseous more more frequently but it went away um you know do you think you would feel differently if you knew someone that had a stroke or someone who's had heart attacks perhaps young people that have well it's hard to say so you know i do people react differently obviously when you're giving you know 100 and more than 169 million people are vaccinated right i mean that's half our adult population is is vaccinated fully vaccinated with copenhagen and um it's not zero risk people are some people are going to have an adverse reaction and they do it's a big world out there you know like if you were to give 169 million people a peanut or a shellfish like some people are going to have very adverse reactions some people die like it's a big world but you know with the with the stroke or the heart attack you know you have to like like so if you're trying to compare for example let's say you know you're looking at actual cover 19 deaths and from heart attacks and strokes and you're looking at the vaccine adverse events reporting site there's right and and that as well you know you have to realize that basically in the united states like in 2017 there was a publication in the journal of circulation someone dies from cardiovascular disease every 30 seconds in the united states like every 30 seconds most of those people are above the age of 50 and certainly most are above 65. but every 30 seconds someone's dying from cardiovascular disease every 40 seconds someone in the united states has a stroke every four minutes they die from a stroke but this is also very very rare in young people particularly young healthy people but one thing that has occurred in young healthy people they've
been vaccinated as myocarditis and some people have had blood clots like quite a few blood clots and there's speculation right the salk institute released that paper about the uh spike protein causing uh some sort of deterioration of the blood vessels did you read that i looked at the spike i've been looking at a lot of the um spike protein and that's from covet 19 they're discussing it they're talking about from yeah from the actual disease itself yes so um you know first of all like they're you have to like there's you're either going to get infected with cyrus grove 2 most people are going to be eventually we're all going to be exposed to it so you're either going to be vaccinated when you're exposed to it or not and people are dying from heart attacks and blood clots and even people are getting myocarditis like 100 full times more than vaccines like the the myocarditis link from the mrna specifically the mrna vaccines is real and i think the last i saw it was like 50 per million which is still rare and it's happened to two people that i know it so up until then and actually now that you asked me um i forgot i had a um someone who's a supporter i talked about vaccines in one of my q as i do and they went and got it and they were younger and ended up having some kind of myocarditis so i do know someone that had i don't know them but they emailed me now what happens if you have that and like how do you recover from that but you realize it's happening to young people so myocarditis is caused by two things one by inflammation two by direct viral infection and it's more common in adolescents and young people and it's an enlargement of the heart it's inflammation of the heart can lead to that yeah but it's it's happening in young athletes with covid19 like and it's happening like more frequently than people that are getting vaccinated so it's still like well if the person that got vaccinated look it is a risk but it's still pretty rare and it also is
treatable in most cases they treat it like within a few days and it's isolated why do you think that people like there are people that are completely asymptomatic when they get coveted or if they do get it's very mild do you think that's because they have a lower viral load that they've been infected with or do you think it's their immune system that fights it off like what do you think is happening it could be any and all of those things a combination of them and you know but so like even if you think you know if you're looking at just like the most extreme part of like the deaths right you know you've got like over 624 000 deaths in copen 19. most of those deaths are happening in people over the age of fifty um and if you look at like most of them have four plus comorbidity factors right isn't that the average i don't know if it's four plus a three average for i think the comorbidities increase yeah i think what the number of comorbidities are in terms of like uh the deaths it used to be 2.6 but i think they raised it to four really the number of them before okay so i might be wrong but i know it was at least two points right so then there's the argument well i'm healthy i don't have comorbidities right i mean so so what what should i do like should i you know get vaccinated or or should i be exposed to the virus and i think there's a lot of evidence and there's multiple lines of evidence one you know there are people with mild symptoms that are getting post-acute cobalt syndrome they're getting this what people call it long-haul covered and a lot and the majority of people what do you think that is what is post what is long haul covet i don't know what it is i think it depends on the the symptoms i think there could be a variety of causes for it um you know so there are people and most of us this is happening in teenagers to like 50. most of the people that are older are not getting this long-haul code but it's like happening in people that are mostly not being hospitalized people that don't get hospitalized originally like they have mostly like
pretty mild symptoms in some cases even asymptomatic you know there was a study published in the lancet like last year showing there was a seven-fold increase in stroke incidents in people under 50 in the united states compared to the year before that before the pandemic start and that is probably because the spike protein that causes this deterioration of the blood vessels and blood clots is that what it is from the from the virus well i don't know what it is i mean there's lots of things you know viral infections themselves can cause hypercoagulation they can cause blood clots like just like that's like known from other viruses like that's something there's inflammation without the spike protein so let's okay i feel like i haven't got to address everything but let's talk about the spider real quick i think this four points out where i would find this information i hope that's the spot yeah there is an average of 4.0 additional conditions or causes of death for data on deaths involving covet 19 by time period jurisdiction and other health conditions this is only five percent the covert was the only cause and then so for only five percent of the covet does covet 19 was the only cause mentioned so out of those 600 thousand people that died only five percent died just from covet 19. well i mean so you have people that are coping 19 is going to make their comorbidities worse and and that could be the same for a vaccine it could be the same for anything right i mean so like something that's going to activate the immune system yeah but i've the the concern is with what vaccines the negative effects that what people are worried about i think is young people that are healthy that have negative effects like that have had strokes or that have had thrombosis or myocarditis and those issues right well i think you know again if you look at the data you know young people are also experiencing those things at a higher rate and are those all the people with the co-morbidities like i don't know you know like i i'm not sure but it seems as though no matter which way
you look at it like it it's it is worse to be exposed to that virus and like how do you know that person that had that myocarditis wouldn't have had it x-fold worse with the with the coba 19 because it's been shown to happen in young healthy athletes you know and people have been shown in large numbers like the more more so more so more so than the vaccines that we were saying yes i'm saying that it's happening myocarditis is from the vaccines it's happening in younger people at a higher rate than from the vaccines do we have accurate data do you think about how many myocarditis instances we have from the vaccine well you could argue there's an under reporting um i think people so anyone can submit data to the to the bears and i think when it comes to someone who's younger they're more likely i mean so healthcare professionals have to submit to the bears if there's like something that's life-threatening some which myocardials could be or if it's death or something that's like you know changes their daily functions like congenital effects yes they are if they are but if uh do they how do they know that myocarditis is caused by the vaccine it they don't but if it if the person had gotten vaccinated and by the way there's no time constraint like it's not like oh if they've only been you know vaccinated within like in two months like they're supposed to they're supposed to submit to theirs like if someone was vaccinated and then something yes is there encouragement or discouragement to submit to theirs i don't know i don't know but i mean you know if you again even just looking at the deaths in every age group even like you know people that are in my age group 40 to 49 you know there's 20 000 deaths that have been linked to the confirmed kova 19 cases right whereas you know in various it's 200. for people with comorbidities obviously it's a real issue yeah i don't know if that's if that's always the case but yes definitely with people with comorbidities because according to this what we pulled up it's five percent that are dying just of the covid
95 have an average of four comorbidities okay well if that's true for all ages um then you know yes people with comorbidities are more likely to die but also younger people i like i said they're more likely to get you know these long-haul symptoms where i've known so many people you know that they're they've they've gotten like their loss of smell or taste has been like several months and there's now studies showing that you know if you there was a huge study out of the biobank um uk biobank data where the where right before the pandemic started mris were done brain scans on like almost a thousand people was like over 800. and then the pandemic hit people got covered some people didn't whatever so they brought these these the same cohort of people back in for a brain scan and you know basically they corrected for people so they had people that they compared people that were the same age same gender same sex and and then they um also time between scans and they found that both mild and severe cover 19 cases caused a atrophy in the gray matter region of the brain it was worse in people that had it more severe right understandable but people that had mild cases that didn't go to the hospital had it how many people did they study with this it was over 800 yeah i mean you know it's you need you need more data to confirm but i mean were these people did they stratify it by age did age gender ethnicity health i don't know did they have comorbidities did they factor that in they had people that age the same age you know as the people didn't get code and they didn't have it i mean you know this is several months this is just months after i don't know about the health did they monitor their nutrition or find out what kind of supplements they were i don't know i don't i don't know if any of that data was was you know in it but do you think that data would be a factor at all i don't know because i know people that supplement that exercise that have had um were diagnosed with they had a mild case and they were diagnosed with pots you know post postural orthostatic tachycardia
syndrome where their heart was racing like tachycardia was racing just control like uncontrollably they were dizzy couldn't had no energy i mean this was months and they finally got diagnosed there's like a lot of people coming out with this but you know do you know anybody that had covid and got through it with almost no symptoms at all and was very mild um well yeah no symptoms at all but the people that i do know most of them had some kind of weird taste issue like or smell thing for like weeks and weeks but um but you don't know anybody that didn't have that um i don't because most the people i know that had it lost their smell watch the entire episode for free only on spotify