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the jurgen experience well let me ask you this like being a libertarian and reducing government is what you're really interested in so if that's the case what are the things that get drastically reduced like like besides the obvious ones like military and let's what is what are the things that you feel there's egregious misspending or overspending on well i mean okay so right i mean i i know you've said besides that but i'm still gonna just react number one is is ending all of the wars i mean it's just been it's it's been does one disaster after another millions of innocent people have been killed as a result of the wars in the last 20 years we have nothing to show for them nothing as we should end every last one of them and the biggest one the biggest one right now is what's going on in yemen and there's talks that they're talking about yemen again yes but you were on ce cup five years ago it's still and literally there and no one listened to me then and um fortunately no one has yet and now they're talking about escalating it but it's the worst thing in the world what is the biggest explain what's going on so uh all right so basically obama started a war in yemen or i mean it's it was obama's government working with the saudis to to launch a war against the houthis in yemen and basically the back story to it is that obama had really the saudis were pissed off at our government and they're a big trading partner in ours but number one they were against the war in iraq uh that george w bush started because they kind of were the only ones who saw obviously how this was gonna go and they were like you know their big enemy is iran and you were like well if you overthrow the sunni minority government in iraq obviously the shiites are going to take power and then iran's going to have all of this influence in the region so you're just empowering our worst enemy so don't do this but america wanted to do it israel wanted to do it all of the neocons wanted to do it and so the war ended up happening um and so the war happens it went exactly that way it was the it was a gift to iran um and then obama came in and he uh you know made the deal with iran that
also really pissed off the saudis so obama said and you can google this and you can find it he said in order to placate the saudis he supported their war against the houthis in yemen so we got involved in a war which has turned into a genocide to placate one of the most evil governments in the world the saudis so obama that's that's what obama the the man who won the nobel peace prize gave us and said that besides um you know for funding bin laden islamists in libya and syria and committing literal treason he should be tried for war crimes and literally spend the rest of his life in a cage for what he did in yemen literally launched a war of gem genocide to placate the saudis is that really the only motivation for us getting involved it's i mean yeah they're basically that they're a big business partner of ours and we were pissed off and we were worried about losing that uh relationship in this war the united states is part is what so basically well okay so it's really it's the saudis and the uae um are really launching the war but it's always i mean it's the saudis doing it but with american weapons for the first uh like several years of the war we were literally refueling their fighter pilots as they were doing it and they're they're conducting the war in the most brutal egregious way i mean they're bombing like they're bombing farms and they're bombing you know and they put a full blockade around the country um so there's there there was something at one point there was in the ballpark of a million cases of cholera i'm not sure if they were actually all cholera or there were some other similar like uh infections that were but it's been hundreds of thousands of people who have died in in this war the un said it was the number one humanitarian crisis in the world and it's it's these are uh you know um infectious diseases that are that are targeting or that that disproportionately hit babies i mean there's babies dying um and yemen by the way before all of this was the poorest country in the middle east and they would put a full blockade around the
country and this has been going on forever obama started it trump continued it through his entire presidency funded uh um you know funded the saudis even more than obama had gave them even more uh um you know weapons um and biden said he was going to end it and he said he was going to end the war and there were some people i will say bernie sanders and rand paul were both really great on this in the senate trying to bring awareness to this that we got to end this this like this is a genocide at this point um and biden said he was going to end it and he didn't he backed off of that promise and now i guess the houthis launched a few attacks that hit uh the the united uh uh the the uae and so now they're they're talking about escalating the war anyway so that's the biggest so it's what government should stop doing that's like the biggest one to me is like cut the military budget drastically stop stop fighting stupid wars um anyway on top of that i would say that the um we need to end uh all corporate welfare can we stop before you move on to that sure so what the the motivations that they have for getting involved in wars that benefit saudi arabia are is it negotiations in terms of like oil access is it negotiations in terms of like control the region was it like there's compromises in terms of like they make these compromises in terms of like we want to do this and you want to do that so we'll allow you to do this we do that and then we'll work together so there's i i there's several really big like um financial incentives uh behind it um the number one uh saudi arabia buys a tremendous amount of weapons um so there this is worth a lot of money for for weapons manufacturers uh there's also the whole petro dollar thing where there it has been this agreement for a long time that saudi arabia will peg their their oil to u.s dollars and only trade in dollars and this does a lot to keep our currency afloat that was the reason that was part of the reason why the the war with iraq happened right wasn't that didn't that have something
to do with them taking their money like taking the they weren't going to put their oil on the u.s dollar anymore supposedly saddam hussein around the year 2000 um had a plan to start trading oil you know in gold and other assets and not using dollars anymore um i've also seen people say that qadhafi had had plans to to be in on this i don't know if that's if that's true or not i do think it's interesting i do know that very shortly after we got off the gold standard after richard nixon put us on the gold stand took us off the gold standard that we made this deal with saudi arabia in the 70s where they would only trade oil for dollars which in some ways kind of replaced the the gold standard like look dollars aren't redeemable for gold anymore but they are redeemable for oil and so you got some commodity kind of behind the money and that allows us to print as much money as we want to without suffering the consequences of it quite as drastically because there's still some value to the money for other people we can export our dollar around the world i i'm sure there's other motivations that i don't know about you know that i don't know for sure what they are but i do know that hundreds of thousands of innocent people are being slaughtered over these wars so whatever exactly the motivation is it ain't worth it and it's also one more crazy uh you know addition to all of this is that we're fighting on the side of al qaeda over there like al qaeda is fighting the houthis there's still a pretty sizable al-qaeda presence in the arabian peninsula and particularly in yemen and they're the enemies of the houthis we're fighting on the side of saudi arabia and al qaeda against the houthis because they're on the because iran kind of likes them it's nuts and we need to just stop doing it and it's insane while our country's falling apart we're still trying to like remake the world it's just it's the idea that the reason why they're making these concessions to these other foreign countries is that ultimately does help america in some sort of a way well i mean i'm sure they would talk about like a cia guy or someone who's like involved in
this sort of uh international politics yes kind of explain not saying that you would agree with them but explain to you the the motivation or why it's beneficial to be involved with these companies countries rather well yeah i mean i've heard uh i have talked to several of them and i've heard a lot of their arguments by the way there's also a lot of those guys who would agree with me on this or i would agree with them i should probably say more accurately i mean i'd highly recommend anybody who who wants to know what's really going on to listen to colonel douglas mcgregor who is as smart and as decorated as as you could possibly be and he's the guy who really makes the argument the best that we should be completely out of all of these wars is he retired uh yeah i believe he is at this point yeah i believe he is but he was actually um i believe he was mcmaster's boss at one point but mcmasters you know rose up i guess the political stuff with it did a little bit better than him and he ultimately became you know the guy and he didn't but also might be because of what they their views are on this stuff but yeah there are people who will make these arguments but really usually the arguments that you know they come down to like well i mean it's like the way the wars were sold it's like well we had to go into iraq because of whatever weapons of mass destruction or we had to go into syria because assad was killing all of his own people or we had to go into libya because he was about to go genocidal or we had to go into blah blah yemen they don't really try to make this argument as much for just kind of like it's never disgusting it's just there's just no there's no real strong defense it's been going on so how many years now it's like we're you were talking about eight years seven years maybe now um yeah and it's been and it's just and now they're talking about ramping it up after biden promise to to end it you