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the jurogan experience you know that knee you landed on frankie was crazy i was by myself watching tv and i screamed out loud you know it was one of those oh yeah and that's a common thing in my house are you okay i'm like watching the fights yeah that was a nasty one dude was so perfect yeah it was you timed it so perfect yeah i mean he wasn't doing any of the hit and the breaks you know everything he was doing was just forward forward forward he threw you know he threw a kick forward he threw a combination forward and i was like oh this guy's not hitting the brakes at all you know uh and i was like you know just throw something into that space that he was going to step into and you know he could have been more perfect yeah yeah he was like right before he threw a punch everything yeah so two wicked kos in a row like that over two top guys like you must be feeling right now that you're on like a whole new level yeah i'm trying not to feel too good you know because that demon you know that demon will tell you hey you're good enough man you know you're good enough ride it out yeah um yeah i do feel good though man i feel like uh i think it's been noticeable the demeanor that i go into the cage with it's it's noticeable in my brain too like when i'm walking into the cage uh i'm ready you know to hurt someone uh and i'm ready to uh i'm ready to you know snap and get the get that 10 weeks of thinking about it out of me uh but yeah man i i i'm super happy with it man i feel like you know uh it's it's it's own ability to figure out where you best perform and like you you you don't learn that unless you have you know a loss or or you get lucky and you get you get to win a fight but you know i had to lose and um that's how you learn that stuff and i i really feel man like when i'm in the back in that space i feel 100 percent completely untouchable
you know and that's something that is very very different than when i was fighting before like i'm walking into the cage now feeling 100 untouchable and you attribute this to the work with the mental coach as well as just you realizing that you were flat in the algae main fight yep yep and just realizing where i do best you know just realizing where i do best like uh i would love to because i'm a calm dude like i'm a relaxed guy like i don't get too high or too low about anything like it'd be nice if that if i could perform at that level you know but that's not the case for me so i need to really and that's why i do it before sparring is i'll make sure no matter how tired i am regardless of what's going on you know if i'm injured if i'm you know over trained whatever it is when it's sparring day i'm making sure that i get myself to that same place um obviously not intense enough to where i'm gonna hurt my training partners but i'm making sure that i can replicate that headspace regardless of the situation yeah you said something after the fight when you were talking to you were talking to laura senko so you were talking to uh no it was uh andrew uh whoever it was yep that person um you were you said some people go in there and they're looking to compete they like to compete and that's what they're doing you you go there you're trying to hurt people that's that's you know what i'm doing now you know uh it was really uncomfortable for me because like we're kind of you know i like hinduism i like eastern philosophy i like the idea of like you know buddhism and you know being really peaceful and having a zen mind and uh and not wanting anything and and being really free from all the suffering of the world and trying to get there uh and that was kind of my philosophy you know up until i was choked out by sterling and opened up my eyes and i hear him running around and celebrating and i was like [ __ ] that you know [ __ ] that everyone that i go into a
fight now with i'm really trying to hurt you know like i want to be the guy that's running around the cage and they're opening up their eyes you know and and i didn't you know uh it's it's a it's a different type of space to be in and it takes a lot of practice especially for someone like me who isn't you know naturally like that uh but you know that's that's the game that we're in and that's what i'm trying to do now how important is a law sometimes super important it's it's a reminder you know and like you said you know i was just too comfortable i was too laid back like i needed to remember how dangerous this sport is uh and that's one of the main things that i took from that loss is that like we're not playing soccer like don't walk into that fight not ready to go it's also a lesson right it's like failure is so good for you because when you fail it sucks and it feels terrible but if you needed motivation well there it is like that's the best form of motivation like people would love to get motivation in a totally positive uh like a way where it's elective like i've decided to be motivated yeah i'm going to be positive and that's wonderful but my goodness the injection that you get from a loss or from just straight up failure where you're like oh my god i'm a loser yeah yeah the feeling it's so bad you're literally the same person you were before that moment but now you [ __ ] hate yourself you hate everything you feel terrible you can't sleep you get up to take a piss and you can't stop thinking about it like [ __ ] you just feel safe you nailed it but that feeling is worth a [ __ ] billion dollars it's so valuable i wish i wish i could win fights and feel like i lost every single time i wish i had that like that type of superpower i wish i could do that
do you think you could talk yourself into that feeling is it like the feeling that you got after the algemean fight can you think you can like bring yourself back to that state yeah yeah um yeah if i sit and think about it long enough which i sometimes you know like and not not because of that fight but just all of the shitty things like you said that happen after a lost man like all the shitty conversations you have to have with people oh my god like the shitty looks you get what do you think went wrong yeah hey man uh you'll get it next time it's like no man like this is my existence bro you'll get it next time yeah yeah non-competitors that want to talk to you about your losses i hate it look on the bright side yeah you got your health yeah in that moment there's no bright side and that's something that every athlete i think has to come to grips with the during losses there's there's no upside it's just this is your look sometimes you're the hammer sometimes you're the nail and you don't get the good without the bad the reason why the good is so [ __ ] amazing is because you felt the bad yeah if you're just this guy just stormed your way to the top with no adversity whatsoever you probably wouldn't enjoy it as much no and and that uh that emotional pain i think is worse than physical pain and i remember after the first time i lost i had like my own existential crisis a little bit where i had to you know venture off and really question like who i was as a person where i where i was putting a lot of my identity just because that [ __ ] hurts so bad man and uh i remember like if i keep doing this it might happen again you know and i had to i had to like sit with that a little bit and i was like and you might not even get what you want out of this and then i was like damn and then i had to sit with that
and then i was like and then i but i'm really grateful for that because that was the real moment in my life where i was like martial arts is is my path you know like that's what i'm doing that's what i'm doing i remember having the very lucid thought of like when i was having those feelings of like uh this could happen again you might not ever get into the ufc you could be doing this and win some lose some and be a loser until you're 35 40. you know and in my head i was like okay you know i'll sleep in a box i'll be a loser you know as long as i get to do this with my life like i'll be that loser and and kind of since then that's when i was like oh i actually love this you know catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background by using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free you don't have to have a premium account to watch new jre episodes you just need to search for the jre on your spotify app go to spotify now to get this full episode of the joe rogan experience