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the jurgen experience dude first of all congratulations on your comeback i that you know you're a great guy and when there's someone i like who loses a bunch of fights in a row and you get into this skid it's hot it's hard to watch i can't imagine what it was like being you you know to have a young child and to be dealing with all this going i mean it's like losing your top but then to come back the way you did against a really [ __ ] tough guy in the sun sal and get arguably the ko of the year i mean you got to be feeling pretty [ __ ] good i feel great you know back from the brink back from the brinks i mean that time in my life that time frame period and going through that you know from on top of the world world champion uh to three fight skid honestly it feels like a a lifetime ago i feel like i'm just a different person um where i was at from there you know removed and the things i'm just doing differently thinking differently you know how i was able to approach the game picking myself back up time and time again i mean it's internet is a horrible place to get get knocked out on you know [ __ ] you got the trolls this and that you know it's but besides that point you know um just coming back to that and having a love for it a lot of the times i got to the fight and not to make excuses i was just i didn't feel myself i didn't feel like um in the training and leading up i felt physically i'm always ready to fight like flip the switch i'm already physically ready to fight i think mentally going into those fights i was just um out of body i wasn't i felt like i was going through the motions you know my passion wasn't there i wasn't waking up every day like what's your reason why i was just trying to find that and i think the reason why i had so many people infiltrated in how i should train or how i should live or what i should do to get back there and really it wasn't nothing that i needed to learn new
i didn't have to reinvent the wheel it was just doing the slight edge theory like getting out of your comfort zone like you're doing your sauna sessions like you're pushing yourself to go in there and just be uncomfortable um you know so i had to go out there and with that comeback you know i moved to jersey the training camp out there i suppose yeah i want to talk to you about that i'm a big fan of henry mark henry's a bad [ __ ] he's great i love i enjoy him so much his passion for his love for it he's so interesting too his crazy codes and the fact that the dude makes pizza on the side dude i was so nervous going out there because i heard of the codes and and like you know i was with lance lance kind of giving me a little insight on it on everything like damn codes and i just fight dude like i don't have really set things i kind of go off of my instincts and game plans and he was trying to you know brief me on it when i got to the first two weeks holy [ __ ] we go down to his basement and he has like pizza scrolls from the pizzeria where we have off about 50 things that we're working on um before camping so what does he write them on boxes pizza boxes pizza scrolls like the just basically white paper anywhere you know he's working with 14 fighters at one time he knows all the codes and all different kinds of fights too like he's got zabeet there he's got frankie it's like all these different styles yeah different styles and we'll kind of you know what i like about that is he'll try things that's his beat does it does these crazy double jump scissor kicks and spinning you know the russians are really good at spinning [ __ ] you know so we threw that into the into the game and it it's it's you know it was nice to get that kind of the stuff that frankie's done and had success over the years um so we meshed that together um he got to know me really well uh we worked you know extensively with
ricardo almeida up there as well but yeah coach henry is just there's nothing he's obsessed with winning but what i loved about him was the first thing that he said to me um was that his job is he's competitive he wants to win at all costs but his job is to get us back to our family and um i watched your podcast with uh andre ward and he said the same thing about his trainer and i once he said that to me and i have a child now my whole thought process has changed you know in transition and they're like i want to be able to be around for my son's life i want to have you know um speak to my grandchildren i'm not drooling you know that's what coach mark i want you to draw when you're you know you're 50 60 years old and i kind of style that fight i can punch and move i don't have to brawl these guys right you know and um just reiterating the defensive part of the technical offensive part with him is i could go in there and hit a six seven punch combo dude he would he would care less he was like what did you do after you moved after your head was off your hands was up like that he's all about defense and you know i think he just helped me out a lot with saying that like getting me home to my family safe like that's what i want to do it's such an important approach to be defensively sound and and yet there's so many fighters who don't think like that at all they just think about offense and if you you know it's it's really like in jiu jitsu like hicks and gracie had uh i had a conversation with him once about jiu jitsu and one of the things that he said is that the most important thing is defense he said because i'm always safe this is what he said he goes i'm always safe and he goes in every position i'm always safe like he lets guys on his back with a fully locked in rear naked choke and he'll start rolling like that he he's always safe so he never and that's interesting also i read that
about the donahue death squad john donahue's guys like you know gordon ryan and all those guys they'll start in really bad positions all the time they train constantly in bad positions so they're always defensively sound and that makes sense with striking as well so many guys are so concerned with offense and you know you've had so many spectacular knockouts like the thomas almeida fight that it's just like you probably just want to blast guys true i get i got to like pull the reigns back sometimes i'm like dude i'm so amped up just getting there and get the fight you know like forget to walk out fit the you know yeah i'm gonna i want to get the first blow i want to get that exchange and then that's when the fight unravels sometimes i think i get so amped up that you know taking it back you know doing that kind of having defensively sound sets up your offense yeah and my uncle's training me my whole entire life and this is what he said your often sets up your defense and vice versa but okay like my offense was so good and then you get to this point where you people are breaking down your footages and your films and you know your speed and power you know you have to have that you have to be defensively sound if you're so offensive i'm a forward fighter i can fight going back a lot of fighters can't go i can i can fight positional and like you said about danner's guys chris holdsworth um has adapted into a phenomenal coach you know he's my right-hand guy from martial arts to the t and he makes us start in horrible positions like that when we're dog dead tired and then get up and we're shadow sparring each other and going back to the ground like really fight simulated things to where you're feeling uncomfortable in those positions like yeah i can go in there and knee wrestle all day during jiu-jitsu i didn't get tapped on ain't happening but i was safe but i didn't put myself in those positions
when the fight really happens you have to see how you know your grit you got to be able to fight off the hands right off the body trying to go fight all those bad positions so you're comfortable or whatever the fight goes and i feel like that's where i'm at now i've transitioned into that fighter i was so green when i got to alpha male and and a lot of my speed and power catapulted me to the top where i have to kind of draw back a little bit and do the correctional errors not reinvent things not do things but the defensive part of things like you know i was up and training in jersey and i knew i had the good head slips and movements but some of the slips coach was watching me i'll get caught on the you know after first or second i usually get hit with the fourth punch you know that's a combo puncher so i would slip slip and then i would slip down this way and i would get hit with the the jab and every time he's like dude just bring your hand up a little bit when you're slipping to the right you're moving to the right and i you know how you feel after swear i'm like dude i feel great i don't have a headache i'm not getting my ass kicked like i'm not getting hit really like my defense has gotten so um solid working with him and just constantly and chris is the same way and my coaches out and alpha male are the same with hands up hands up hands up but i was just at that point in my life i was just so aggressive and angry and just we had so much success attacking that way at doing that but this last fight i was honestly joe when i was you know doing those faints on the sun sound and coach henry said hey don't feel like these veins aren't going to work like he's defensively sound he's a great fighter at that respect keep doing these faints they will work i'm fainting this guy dude i'm fainting i'm fainting he's not really biting he's not really coming in but i kept on the faints and we you know i started catching with some some shots
that i saw and his eyes were hurting him and then fainted did the tyson too his overhand right dropped him and i knew once i had that range and the power and speed and his timing that he would come in with something so uh you know the ko the way you did it where you dropped your hands and looked to the side and waited for him to move oh my god that was like one of the best walk-off chaos ever i felt great because the first round i kind of had myself to the cage and coach man he he'd probably kick my ass being on the cage like get get off the cage get to the you know movement more we're movement fighters you know he made me um and i know my back was in his cage but i saw and in the the round was ending but i saw a sunset like oh here's my opening i saw that in that first round and then the second round was staying off i was moving i was speeding i'll switch you know stances um but towards the end of that i heard the clappers i'm like i'm back and swell let him come in i kind of leaned towards and he kind of like faded on it and then he chased me down when i level changed i kept my eye on him and he threw the hook because he was going south paul and i knew like i had to hand my hand on the cage and know where my distance was that he was coming with a kick after i could lean back i just had my range on my timing and once right through it man i knew when i feel it from the hip it was it was over two and that that guy is so [ __ ] durable that's the thing i mean this guy is so tough and so so durable for you to catch him and ko him like this yeah that had to feel so good catch new episodes of the joe rogan experience for free only on spotify watch back catalog jre videos on spotify including clips easily seamlessly switch between video and audio experience on spotify you can listen to the jre in the background while using other apps and can download episodes to save on data cost all for free spotify is absolutely free
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