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The Joe Rogan Experience this bare knuckle boxing thing has been fascinating to watch man because it's like someone designed the perfect sport for you you know what I mean yes like you are you are pretty well suited for that and it's I find it so fascinating because there's uh there's a certain and I really wanted to ask you about this because there's a certain something that applies to Bare knuckle fighting that just it it it's like there's a pain and there's a danger and there's a wildness of it that even some very great Fighters they get to a certain they're in there and they're like I don't like this they're too used to gloves they're too used to whatever they're used to they don't want that experience once they find it once they're in there but you seem to thrive on it you know it's just a real fight to me um even though I mean I still go to the gym and I do MMA with the guys like I'm I love boxing so much though it's it's my forte it's like what I'm good at um because I'm I'm cool to take a punch get hit that's fine I'll take a hit to land a better one on you and um in bare knuckle I mean there's a lot of opportunity to fight guys who I mean I did fight Julian Lane who had experience in it yeah he had nine fights in it yeah when we fought and then I fought two guys who hadn't done it yet so you know um but it's it's just like like let's talk about those two guys like first of all Michael Venom page that guy is super talented yeah I mean he's extraordinary when you watch him fight in MMA and he's a guy that I kind of predicted one day I was like the one skill that's that you don't see a lot of in MMA is this crazy Blitz Point fighting style because those guys can cover crazy distances those are those really good point Fighters and he was a really good point fighter and um he was the first guy that kind of shoot showed how that style could apply in MMA he's so Elusive and so hard to hit and um you know you just put it on him to well it was different you know it was it's different it was boxing yeah I mean he beat a couple guys boxing yeah um but it's um I mean because he's good MMA after I beat him I thought you know maybe they'll try to make that fight happen in MMA now but I do feel like I
would overpower him grappling wise um but his legs are very dangerous I mean that last guy he thought he kicked him in the leg and it was over yeah he's very dangerous um that not the knockout of cyborg was [ __ ] crazy yeah that was good poking ball yeah it's crazy I mean he caved his forehead in with his legs that's what I'm saying his legs are dangerous it's interesting to me to want you know I'm hungry for fights I want to fight all these [ __ ] well I think with a god like that it's funny I was watching style Bender was on Andrew Schultz's podcast and they were talking about him boxing some days like boxing is too limited it's too limited to fight you think about a guy like him who apply eyes this full wild range of things especially with Michael Venom page because he's so good at closing distance and kicking you and kneeing you and that the knee the timing of that knee that mean magnificent right yeah and when you take all that away and you only have these it's a big difference yeah it's a gigantic difference yeah it's it's so interesting I have the same difference and I like it I like it fits me um I mean I did boxing um I had one pro boxing match I'm still owing one as a professional boxer but then I did that triller thing in the triangle and I fought uh Michael seals who was 27 and 3 in a mixed boxing match with a turtle back MMA gloves and um you know I won I mean I just put the pressure on him with a turtle back MMA gloves Turtle back or like the training MMA oh oh okay but it was it was like while Metallica was playing oh yeah I heard it also they're like kind of big MMA glass he was 27-3 as a professional boxer he drops me uh like once they counted it once he dropped me another time I got hit in the back of the head and the ref saw it and I went down a little bit but I got right back up so what is the biggest difference about bare knuckle for you I I've learned though so like when I followed Julian Lane his little [ __ ] head hurt my hands because a lot of time with boxing gloves on your hands are like open and you try to close it at the right time but you know it if you do that bare knuckle because you know how if you're squeezing your fists it's a little harder to move
you're kind of tense but in bare knuckle you have to learn how to move while you're tense and keep your hands close because with gloves you can block a shot like this but in bare knuckle you gotta be closed up tight and squeezing your fist so hard so that when you hit them in the head you're you don't destroy your hand yeah there's like there's three levels of vulnerability and the level number one is like you would see a lot of the like the glory guys they keep their hands in a shell like Alistair overeating or you know like bought her heart those guys would shell up they shell up but they have those big ass gloves and you see that when they come to MMA some of those shots sneak through yes but then bare knuckle it's it's another level of sneaking through it's a totally different it's it's really interesting to watch a really good fighter like Luke rockhold you know and you and you know Luke rockhold is very skillful he's a very skillful guy and when you were putting it on him I was like this is a totally different thing and you are like uniquely suited for this totally different thing thank you it's different than regular boxing men and women remember in Paulie malinaji fought uh artem lobov well Polly I mean he's a scrawny dude yeah and lobov was just a little dog he's a dog yeah it was a good fight to be honest but the jabbing and moving that Paulie did didn't work for him and Luke I don't know you know that's kind of what we were talking about when you brought up Luke we were talking about I was talking about the type fists and like how bare knuckle is different and it's like I figured out how to utilize the bare knuckle I mean I knocked his teeth out I hit him by the time I caught him and then he was like I'm not trying to get hit like that again it was a matter of time the Gap was closing it takes a second he hit me too and I told him I bet it um I haven't talked to him about it or asked him because I don't um I mean you know he lost or whatever so I don't talk to losers but I try to do what winners do man I try to think about Winners but when I hit him with that shot and he didn't want to get hit again um he had hit me I got a little nod on my face right there but I took it and I
bet it hurt him I bet it hurt his hand I told told him before the fight you're gonna punch me in the head it's gonna be the hardest thing you ever hit and then I'm gonna I'm gonna head butt you in your hands and I'm gonna punch you in your face and you're gonna quit and that's what he did wow yeah it's good stuff man it's a different thing man it's a different thing I think I can do it in any gloves though any I could fight in the UFC I have a mindset and I fight with these guys I do MMA I see your belt on the wall in there when I went and did the cold plunge you're it's like a red belt or a black belt with red stripes that's not your belt no no it's Jean-Jacques Machado when he when he got his Coral belt he gave some of them out to some of us man dudes like that you know Coral Bell stuff I'm I'm going to chase back my my black belt I'm a purple belt for a stripe for years now could have been had my brown belt I got great Jiu Jitsu I trained with some of the best Jiu Jitsu practitioners I just choose to sprawl and brawl I like to punch people I think it's the best off button I enjoy it and it's exciting and it's an entertainment business right so um you know uh [ __ ] lost my there's something to be said for that for sure I mean look people love to watch you fight thank you I appreciate it I was always a giant fan oh that's what I was my point was yeah you had wild I will fight anyone anywhere I would love to please give me opportunities I want to show and be I want to be a [ __ ] Coral belt in my own right in my own way and people know when Mike Perry walks down the street it's like that's what the baddest [ __ ] that ever lived dude Mike Perry they're going to talk about me just like they did Mike Tyson I feel like Mike Tyson I feel different I'm I'm better what what changed in you like how how did you come into your own because you were always a really good fighter but it seems like over the last few years you're on a completely different I have a family I love them so much and you know I'm a I'm a human I [ __ ] up I make mistakes and [ __ ] but you know I know I don't give up I keep going and I push and I took you know David Goggins
type [ __ ] you know it's like I stopped making [ __ ] excuses and [ __ ] was like you know cause I'm hurt all the time I'm always [ __ ] hurt I don't care I'm like all right [ __ ] it I gotta wake up every day and feel this [ __ ] you can't [ __ ] hurt me because I'm I'm in enough pain I take anything you got and give it back that's fighting and I got and I do it for you know I do it for fighting I love fighting it's like that's my [ __ ] that's even though it hurts it [ __ ] my face up I've hate it's a love-hate relationship my family can hurt my feelings too so it's all emotional feelings and if you tell yourself just who cares like just no one cares about your problems or anything so just handle your business