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The jogan Experience so I what I see in the Amazon is traces of a lost science a scientific uh a scientific mindset can I can I show some pictures of these gphs please we have to hook up the magical HDM HDMI um and uh I'll just show I'll just show a few slides of them um I forget which side the HDMI is in I think it's in that side careful with the water yeah got it okay are we are we on screen we will be momentarily here we go yeah so so this shows the Amazon um 6.7 million square kilometers there's still 5 a half million left covered by rainforest that's bigger than the entire subcontinent of India and hardly any archaeology has been done and the AR iology that is being done is fascinating and it's particularly in the state of acre um in in the southwest of Brazil that we're seeing uh these extraordinary geoglyphs now I'm here with I'm on the on on the left there that's Marty parsen from the University of Helsinki uh and that is Fabio filho who's the liar expert and that's Al ranzi who's a Brazilian geographer and archaeologist and we're looking at the latest Li our discoveries and there I'm about to take off in a playing with these two guys it was just incredible to fly over there I've flown over the NASCAR lines many times but to fly over this and to see these huge earthquakes on a scale of hundreds of meters sitting there often encroached on by Farms was very very very exciting and what's the conventional explanation for these things there is no conventional explanation because really it's it's only begun to be studied I'll say you first noticed them on a Nova flight more than 20 years ago but it's only relatively recently that they started to get the funding and I want to pay tribute to Eugene Jong uh who is a philanthropist uh who has provided funding for these guys to continue their work and who's also provided funding to the comet research group and who's also provided funding for the DMT research that's being done at UCSD who's what's his name Eugene Jong he's a brilliant brilliant guy j j n g he's a brilliant philanthropist and he's so open-minded
and he's looking to support research in areas that the mainstream just won't touch amazing so we're looking at fenda CPO here where we have an octagon with rounded Corners um and then this is Santa shot of the same place and you can see what's going on you see the smoke in the background there that's the Amazon burning that settlers clearing the Amazon to create more farms uh but in the foreground we have this uh this enormous geometrical event which is a huge oval surrounding a square and did they find this once they started clearing is that when this this was found as a result of the clearances that's how that's how it beca archaeologists became aware that these things exist so before that this was completely covered with completely covered with rainforest it was only the it's a sort of mixed blessing or mixed curse if you like because the clearances made it possible for us to know that these things exist but the clearances ultimately will destroy the entire Amazon if they're allowed to continue jaosa on the left uh a square surrounding a circle um and here's a couple of Sansa shots of Jack oar you can see there's a large Square Earth workor and a circle in it that's almost not quite but almost like the Greek exercise of squaring the circle it's like geometrical exercises are taking place here in the Amazon um and and again a square with these curious scallops cut into the side of it and and and and and a circle there's there's just so much of this uh of this stuff to Kino absolutely giant giant geoglyph and these things really on the old view of the Amazon shouldn't exist they involve enormous expenditure of effort creating these Earthworks is is a huge job if there were Stone if there was a lot of stone in the Amazon I think we'd see Stone circles on them as well there's one place further north called Rego Grande where there is an Earth workor with a stone circle in it because stone is locally available um and and so do you think this was the base of a structure like what is the speculation no I don't think so I've talked to indigenous people there who still respect and rever them um and they say that they were for shamanic journeying that the that the population would gather within them that there would be
certain areas that might be reserved for the for the shamans for example the square on the left those two cutout areas top left and and and right of that square is suggested that shamans were in there and the rest of the population were in the other area and they were they were undertaking Visionary Journeys uh perhaps using iasa uh of course the the Amazonian peoples are are experts in the properties of indigenous plants and so this is their folklore or this is their their story yes this is the story of indigenous indigenous people I I I talked to an aurina um Elder uh and he said we don't know exactly why these places were made they were made so long ago but we respect them we rever them and we think that they were used by shamans in the distant in the distant path so they were aware of them before the clearing everything they were of them before the clearing and they and they red them yes they used them and they still have Community gatherings in them no they weren't they weren't a base for for structures I'm drawing attention here to Severino kalazan this large Square on the left there which has coincidentally the same footprint as the Great Pyramid of Giza it just shows you the size of that uh that enormous earthw work um but it's a mystery more work more work needs to be done and much more needs to be surveyed and thanks to lidar that can be done non-invasively uh we can spot these things very small teams can go in and do a bit of excavation there and figure out what was going on I think the story is going to go back further and further into the past is there any evidence of of wood structures like did they make buildings out of wood back then um not that I'm not that I'm aware of when did people start using wood as a structure I think you can I think you can trace wood back as a structure hundreds of thousands of years but but they when did they start using it and like if you if you see like the ancient M civilizations the what you find in the Amazon you don't find ancient wood structures do you I think that's largely an artifact of the fact that wood doesn't preserve very well right so how do we know that there weren't wood structures there may well have been these there may well have been which have which have just rotted away
and and and and gone May there may well have been wooden structures there cuz it kind of looks like foundations it does it does look like foundations and it's it's just it's just a very weird thing but I think the main point is someone made it someone made made it and it involved a very large amount of organized labor in order to make it there had to be the will and the intent in order to do that it's it's interesting that the patterns are geometrical and are they geometrical like with the perfect length and yes they're very they're very very good fenda piranha and seina Kal kalazan are both aligned to True astronomical North that's different from Compass North that requires astronomy you can't you can't get True North without using astronomy so this tells us Not only was there a culture that was capable of creating large scale public projects but also they had astronomers amongst them wow it's uh it's it's it's a good it's a good mystery the other thing is the geometrical patterns are very common uh experience in iasa Visions in in Altered States Of Consciousness our culture tends to despise Altered States Of Consciousness although fortunately that's changing but in the Amazon and and many indigenous cultures they regard Ed as extremely important uh that we can't confine oursel to the the everyday Wide Awake State of Consciousness that requires us to interface with the physical world there are other states of Consciousness which are also valuable and which bring teachings and it's just one of those facts that most people who drink iwasa most of the time at some point will'll experience geometrical Visions so there's a there's a question is there is there a connection here between the use of iasa and the geometrical patterns um there there's some a huge uh rock wall has been found in the Colombian Amazon sad Dela lindosa which I'm hoping to get to this year 8 km long covered in rock paintings The Rock paintings are dated more than 12,000 years old they show uh extinct megaper they show giant sloths which went extinct during the younger drers for example and they also show the kind of entities that are seen in iasa Visions they show the same sort of sort of patterns the same geometric patterns
that are seen in iasa so there's a sense that do you have any images of this place um Sarah de la lindosa just you connected to the yeah I don't have images of lad DOA on here oh maybe you could Google it um but if if uh or give the plug I'll take the plug back I was trying to Google it and I didn't find anything and I might have spelled or guessed wrong on S how do you spell ITA La lend DOA yeah let me just uh I got it I got it you got it yeah you're going to have to give him the cord real quick and then he'll give it back to you okay there you go um it's uh literally an an 8 kilm cine Chapel uh in the in the Colombian Amazon that's the other thing I mentioned there's not a lot of rock in the Amazon where there is Rock they used it there's Rock paintings uh all over uh the Amazon where rock is available these kind of things yeah that's it um these These are characteristic of iasa Visions but in this case they're more than 12,000 years old now does that prove they were using iasa 12,000 years ago no but a very similar to like a tryptamine vision though totally totally it does suggest that some tryptamine was being accessed at that time and resulting in these in these uh Vision Visionary images boy they shitty drawers weren't they their drawing was terrible but bear in mind that they're they're clambering 100t up a sheer cliff in order to still guys do a better job ridiculous create these paintings those the people were so fat are those people or sea turtles what are those things it's really interesting to see so this is uh 11,000 how old 12,000 12,000 plus yeah yeah 12,000 plus years old it's interesting because if you see the paintings that they found in that cave in France those are 30 plus thousand years old oh yeah there paint there's paintings in in France if you go to chave you're looking 36,000 years old can you go to those J hollenstein stle in Germany that's that amazing Warner Herzog documentary they often have uh I think it's was the cave of Dreams C Dreams yeah yeah they they they often have we're looking at Lasco hang on on the yeah we're looking at Lasco there the the bull painting there is interesting they were better artists they were they were I have to confess theyit this artist very good if you go
Jamie if you go to the NPR the the painting of a bull one one step left from where you are that one um this is this is very interesting um there has been an argument made by uh a couple of astronomers that what is depicted there is the constellation of Taurus and that uh in itself is heresy because archaeologists who want to give everything to the Greeks say that it was the Greeks who invented the constellations of the zodiac and and um not shown why do they think that that represents the constellation because of the six little dots which are not I think on the head I think they're somewhere behind not in this picture uh which is often how the pades are seen they're seen actually there are seven playes um but often to the naked eye you see six uh and the positioning of the pleades in relation to the constellation of Taurus is is the basis for that argument it could be I'm I'm not sure it's so long since I've looked at this but I know that there are six six dots there uh so this cave art was going on all around the world it's found some of the oldest art has been found in Indonesia you know oh here it is here's the yeah there's the there's the there's the playes the whole argument about the ples um it's those dots exactly the on the ones you pointed to above above the back of the ball one 2 3 four five six uh that is how the play of these are often seen with the naked eye can you go back to the other yeah there wow you know that's that's it's an argument it's not accepted by by mainstream archaeology because of their narrative which is that these the the discovery of the constellations of the zodiac is given to the Greeks or perhaps to the Mesopotamians before the Greeks it's not thought that any human culture could have noticed the constellations of the zodiac before that and that's really absurd because the constellations of the zodiac are on the path of the sun the sun rises against the background of a different constellation every month uh and and how would the Ancients have missed that especially since the skies were an everpresent phenomenon to them in a way that they are not to us right we're cut off from the skies by light pollution but the Ancients were not what a fascinating concept that they knew about the constellations 30 plus
thousand years ago yeah and I believe they did and that and we see that again in in gockley tee in pillar 43 in enclosure d uh you see a constellation that we recognize as Sagittarius