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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day all right you taking a selfie no I'm I'm just making sure that there's nothing completely [ __ ] looking about myself right now what could possibly be different than the way when you walked in here I have no idea dude I'm I'll tell you what it's so much fun walking in here and not be like ready to throw up out of nerves the first time I walked out of here and I went holy [ __ ] I was actually nervous I don't get nervous but the first time I was I'm not nervous now though good good beautiful perfect it's good to see you again good to see you every time I see I'm like I'm glad he's still alive it's like where you live is so crazy let me tell you man I don't understand why you continue to do it but I guess you love it I have to do it nothing else I can do at this point how long do you think you're going to stay out there for until the mission's complete until the missions complete I mean we have my whole life has been based around one goal it's been protecting this River so and this year we've just been experiencing Miracles what's happened in the last few months has been life-changing on a level that that like I didn't understand these things could happen when Lex came down and everything that happened we didn't think you you go out and you don't think that that miraculous things are going to happen and there's been there's just been there's just we we've actually been making strides towards notching winds in in protecting this River saving the Amazon it's wild so is it because of you become more high profile you've got more support like what what has been the change well I mean coming on here helped a lot I mean first of all just coming over here like three different people stopped me in the airport and we're like are you that guy from Joe Rogan and I was like are you serious like I'm over there like I'm not used to this I live in the jungle so I don't you know I don't know and then I come back here and then people like dude I know you you're the jungle guy and I'm like oh [ __ ] um new for me um but so really the the thing that happened recently was that you know so I went on Lex's show a year and a half ago and he said he I'm gonna
come down to the Amazon which everybody says you went on Lex's show but Lex actually went on your show you can say that he did it in the Amazon and to see Lex with his suit his customary suit on how hot was it it was hot if you watch that carefully you can see him yeah he looks glisteny I was doing fine but uh we like we both like covered ourselves in bug spray and we we just we sat down and we said okay we're just going to try it out and if it doesn't work it doesn't work it's fine but yeah he came like when he said he was coming down I was like yeah you and everybody else everybody says they're going to come down I didn't think he would actually do it and then how long is the flight um it's not long to get to Lima from New York is eight hours so from here it's even shorter I'm sure oh wow yeah it's really not bad and he came down for two weeks the first day that he was I was like I want to show you the start of the end of the of the Amazon rainforest was starch in the andies mountains so we're in the western edge of the Amazon rainforest and so you have these glacial Peaks up at 177,000 FT so I was like Lex we I want to take you up to 17,000 ft I want to go from source to River and so his first day he arrived and then we drove five hours got to the base of this mountain then we met up with these dudes that are experts and they brought us up to the glacier where we can't breathe wow yeah it was it was you're driving on roads where where the the you know the the cliff goes down a th ft [ __ ] all that I've seen those Road all that and and I was I opened the car door to try and goof around with Lex to be like Oh I'm with Lex Freeman right now in the thing and I look over and I see the wheel go over the [ __ ] Edge and skid back on and I was like oh it happens all the time so yeah we got out we we we walked we let the car I was like look the car drive and then what we did was we took a rock and I was like yo Lex I was like this would be us if if the car flipped and we threw a rock over the edge and this big rock was just spinning like this and I was like man we would be chop meat by the bottom yeah so we got up to 70,000 ft we saw the the glacier and whenever you bring somebody to the Jungle the thing is you don't know some people take to it some people
don't some people get to the jungle and like their skin doesn't react well to the bug bites they're overwhelmed by the fact that they're far from everything Lex's eyes lit up like I didn't know he had that setting he walked into the jungle and was like I like this he got this grin on his face he was LE is a secret Savage yeah look at his face he wasn't [ __ ] around yeah he could live out there yeah and if you notice he came to the Amazon and he looked like like the F like like Lex in his profile picture and when he left the Amazon he he he looked totally different and and that process is is is what happened we he said you know he like if I'm coming down he's like I want to do what you guys do I want to go on like a deep Expedition and so me and JJ who's the guy I work with down there the local indigenous SAA native who who is the reason that I do the work I do I I support work and so we said okay what are we going to do let's find the wildest place we can think of let's think let's go way up our River so we're already like two if you take a boat from town it's two days deep into the jungle to get there by river we said let's go five more hours up River leave the boat and then we're going to go from our River up to this other tributary and it's like 20 miles I'm like 20 20 miles right [ __ ] it this be fine we got our backpacks machetes we get off the boat and Lex is all good to go the first five minutes we're out there JJ machetes a branch that has wasps oh God his whole head and neck gets surrounded by wasps he gets 30 stings on he runs and so right away we're like oh God here we go we had to use a stick to get his hat out from under where the Wasps were attacking we hike all day and here's the thing you think it's the rainforest there's going to be water everywhere there's no water so picture being in the sauna for 8 hours straight and then no reup on water we drank all of our water thinking we're going to find a dream we didn't find a dream we camped that night like dry Camp nothing fell asleep woke up we're like we got to find water and at this point Lex is how do you find water well I mean there should just be streams right this this section were there that you just didn't run into or it's like it was a weird section of forest and and this is integral to the
whole story was that this part of the forest unlike where we are which is very very flat and there's all these like little streams they're clear this came in an anaconda in them but they're clear and the jungle works like the Roots work like a huge filtering system so you can drink that water right out of the streams where we were it was up and down and up and down and up and down and so that's why we're sweating all day we camped we didn't have water we start going the next day no water and Lex starts looking me and he's like dude we can't keep doing this we're we're slipping and sliding down slopes we're hiking up slopes and just grabbing onto things and when you grab onto trees in the Amazon they have spikes on them you're worried about stepping on venomous snakes you're worried about twisting an ankle it was brutal travel like level 10 hiking and JJ made contact made eye contact with me behind him and he was just going this is this is not good and so I think it was day three we're W we're going and we're in did you go a whole day without water at all we went with a whole day with no water whatsoever and what's the temperature 99° full humidity oh my God so you're like full dehydration yeah probably a little delirious completely delirious and so body's not working well and you start making errors this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter pressure can be a good thing like on the mat or in the ring it can push you to do your best break personal records and make smarter choices the same is true for businesses especially particularly when it comes to hiring if you're under pressure to find the right person with the right skills quickly you know the smart choice is to use zip recruiter or you do now at least four out of five employers who post on zip recruiter get a quality candidate within the first day plus right now you can try it for free at zip recruiter.com Rogan zi recruiter is the hiring site employers prefer the most based on G2 and that's probably because it doesn't waste your time or money zip recruiter uses powerful matching technology to find the top talent you need fast it's insane how quick it is so relax employers and let zip recruiters speed up your hiring see for yourself just go to ziprecruiter.com Rogan right now to try it for free
that's the same price as a genuine smile from a stranger a picture perfect sunset or a cute dog running up to you and licking your hand again zi recruiter.com Rogan zi recruiter the smartest way to hire right you start taking bad steps because you're tired so you go I'll just step on this thing and so you you step on a route that goes down you slide poof you hit the ground you get tangled up in Vines we had we had um pack rafts this this company out pack of rafts they we had paddles sticking out of our backpacks that kept getting stuck on Vines and what happened though was as we're going through this Forest we're going God this is so incredibly dense and I see this tree this huge tree the size of this room and I go JJ what tree is that and he smiles at me teacher to student and he goes you know why you know don't know what that is he goes you've never seen a mature mahogany tree because the loggers down there they took them all out this Forest has never never been cut millions of years the Amazon rainforest forming geologically has never been cut and so we're going through this Forest we see Jaguar tracks ancient mahogany trees we're seeing Ironwood trees no one's been there there not even signs of uncontacted tribes this is Forest that no one's been through and so right at the time I remember we stopped for lunch lunch we stopped to eat the last food we have and we're the problem that we were doing was I had a compass and we were getting to the top of these Hills and you know when you look on the ocean floor and and the the the sand makes like those geometric Ripples and there's like there's a pattern to it and so we were coming to the top of a ridgel line and we were like we don't want to go down again and we don't want to hike up again so we were staying on the ridge lines and what that was doing was taking us a 30° tick to the I think it was to the west but that what that was doing though was taking us about another 20 miles off course so we had to hit the river here but we were going to hit over there oh no so we had to correct for course we stopped we're eating the last of the food we have we drank water out of a puddle I have a video and we're going to release this pump do you have a filtration system we went with nothing we had our we had our tents and our ma
Jesus Christ and I have a video video of Lex and he's looking at why you bring a ster pin or something uh cuz I do everything with the local guys and they were just like oh it'll be fine there'll be water and we just we didn't anticipate this happening and I I Lex was crouched by this W by this puddle with his backpack on and he's like looking at the water and he looks at me and he goes I'm going to drink it and I said do not drink that I like please don't [ __ ] drink that and he he goes I'm going to drink it he goes I don't care about anything else on Earth right now except for water and I was like please don't drink it J is no joke nope stopped for lunch we did he drink it he did not drink it wow no he you know I mean we we didn't want if because now we're going if we get sick we Have No Sa phone no communication to the outside world we're at least 30 miles from the nearest river let alone help that's 100 miles away deep in the Amazon and the feeling of Deep Jungle that feeling of wilderness I I know like you know when you're like elk hunting I'm sure you know this when you're out there and you get that feeling like this is this is out there yeah and uncaring uncaring yeah you start like the ocean where it's like does matter lonely it's very Lon even when you're with people starts to press on you we started getting quiet like we weren't having like an awesome time we were we were feeling it and so we ate like some nuts and and we had nothing to wash it down with so we're just chewing on it and we got up and then we took a few steps and all of a sudden everything changed we came out onto a road and it's a Logging Road and JJ's face fell I was heartbroken Lex Lex looked confused what we realized was in this ancient patch of forest the progression of the metastasizing destruction that's moving through the Amazon forest comes in roads this road somebody had just cut a road and they hadn't cut the ancient mahogany trees and they hadn't cut the Ironwood trees and the wildlife is UN touch but there a road so they're coming we used the road we hiked we hiked out we reached water and it this is amazing when we reached water because we just plunged into this River we were drinking we did have some iodine tablets we we put that in our water bottles we drank um as much as we
wanted to and then we had to Raft for an entire day back to the place where we got picked up but what happened was that now we know and this is on our River this is where we're trying to create this Corridor with jungle Keepers now we know that some of the most ancient Forest on Earth is about to be destroyed and we get back to our base to our research station and it just so happens that there was a client there and he was staying in the that Treehouse the Ala Sanctuary treeh house and we tell him this whole story and we're drinking and we're eating and we're you know we're all sunburnt and Bug bitten and dehydrated and our cheeks are you know stuck to our skulls and we tell them this whole story and we go it's going to be brutal watching this you know dismantled and he goes well I want to help he goes find out how we get that land and it hadn't really occurred to me that we could do anything about it and this dude this guy's name is Jay and he said uh he goes I'll I'll I'll start you off he goes whatever the land costs I'll give you 150 Grand do a fundraiser put it public and try and get matching donations and talk to the lockers so while we set up the fundraiser JJ local called up his friends who happened to own that land his friends don't want the land they're Contracting it to loggers to get the trees out to make some money so they could just sell it off we put it up on Instagram we raised $150,000 in 48 hours talked to the loggers bought the land and then the craziest part is that when we were we went there we physically with all the directors of dronee Keepers we went to the land and the peruvians the the Peruvian director sat down with the loggers and they were like look we own this land now it's for conservation we're going to save this forest and the loggers went that's fine but can can we still work here we what and they said we do this cuz we love it and we went what they say yeah could we just be Rangers like we see you have Rangers could we be Rangers and we were like yeah you could be Rangers yeah you could be Rangers these dudes are over here destroying the thing they love because they have no other opportunity right so the fact that this is that that we now have this Global Network of people that care the local people in the Amazon rainforest are
trying to protect the Amazon and now we have all these people all over the world because of stuff like this because of all the work that we've been doing that people know that they just you know we have people that give $5 $10 $100 a month we have this huge network of donors and now we're able to get those wins we see a threatened patch of forest boom We grab it hire the loggers as Rangers everybody wins and we're saving Forest this year since the last time I saw you we went from 55,000 acres to almost 100,000 acres that's onethird of the way to protecting the 300,000 Acres that we have to protect so we're onethird of the way through the goal wow that's all been happening in the last month and a half that's incredible Miracles so are you when you're navigating you're not using GPS you're just using a compass yeah why uh commitment what because look um so I actually when you want the best tools for the job I agree with you and if you're in a really so when we go out to really remote places when you just cannot [ __ ] around yes we do bring like a Garmin GPS and we M that sounds like you cannot [ __ ] around if you guys are without water for days we thought we were going to go in the forest and go on a walk 20 miles is 20 M hike is nothing we do that every day we did not the reason this Forest hadn't been caught was because it was up and down and up and down and denser than all the other Forest cuz it's [ __ ] ancient and so we discovered it and how hard it was and that's where I'm going holy [ __ ] we brought Lex Freeman out here he's gonna die and he's gonna die of dehydration and he was looking at me I mean there was so many times during the trip where he looked at me and you could just tell he was like [ __ ] you dude just just [ __ ] you man what how do you find water you just stumble upon it is that I mean from from our base you walk 5 minutes back into the jungle and there's a beautiful clear stream and I I drink straight out of the stream no problem now I wouldn't for someone that comes to the Jungle I wouldn't say just start doing that I say like take a sip the first day see how your stomach goes I've been down there 20 years so I'm fine the local is it just your gut bacteria changes is that what it is I mean some people you take them you know
you go to Italy and they get sick you know but like you know it's like people some fragile folk fragile folk um you know sunscreen and bug spray um but we someone said that too cuz I I posted a video of me uh drinking like monkey head soup and coffee out of a bowl what monkey head soup we went with the locals before everybody all the Pea people freak out I don't care freak out um when you live with the locals when When in Rome right you know if you go to someone's house and they're local they eat monkeys and so we were on a beach and some of the local guys hunted monkeys and so we woke up in the morning and they heated up the food and what we had was Bowl coffee cuz we didn't bring cups we're on a canoe right you just bring you cut your toothbrush in half to save weight and so I posted it and I was like here's cuz everybody messages me going you know how do I get your job and I was like here's one reason why you [ __ ] don't want my job and think you do monkey head soup monkey head soup and uh what does monkey head soup taste like exactly what you think it's at the same time it's not as bad as you think monkey tastes monkeys though right they love monkeys part of the conservation strategy is just like you know just just like we have Deer tags to make sure that there's continually deer for local indigenous communities they want to keep eating monkeys they love monkeys yeah so they want to keep the monkey population manageable is that the idea and they want to eat them eventually yes and so I would say it's kind of colonialist conservation to come in there and go well you can't eat monkeys because we think you can't but then like you go trout fishing and deer hunting that doesn't make any sense right but it's like monkeys are too closely related to us it's like the people that this is one thing that I've noticed people that get upset about hunting don't necessarily get upset about fishing or don't get upset about a piece of fish like if you put a plate of salmon yeah you know like oh this is my lunch today everybody's like oh that's healthy salmon yeah but if you have a picture of a salmon people get a little upset but if you have like a a steak people don't get too upset but if you have like a dead deer people get very upset and forget yeah I mean it's
very weird so I disconnected I think yesterday sometime this week I posted a video we were out and I was with again some machenga Natives and we caught a yellow catfish and their daughter who's three three and a half years old now you're out somewhere where there's no Refrigeration you have a 2-hour boat ride back what do you do you put the fish in the bottom of the boat with a little bit of water and you let it stay alive right just enough to keep its gills going until you get back because if you kill it as soon as you catch it it'll go back yeah and so this girl picked up the the the the fish and she's yeah and she's hugging it you the comments on this the vegans went crazy people were like I'm unfollowing you that's disgusting this girl's excited because she's going to eat she lives out in the jungle eating nothing but rice and Yuka like if she didn't get that fish she's going to get malnutrition yeah well people are just so accustomed to supermarkets they're just they're so delusional about where your food comes from it's a it's a fascinating thing and and vegans are probably the worst at it because if they really if they really on the ground level under stood monocrop agriculture which is what supplies most of your food they would be horrified they' be horrified at industrial pesticides and herbicides and all all the [ __ ] that we put in the soil and how you know how many small animals get murdered in the process it's well you got to clear space for a farm you not only have to clear space you have to kill groundhogs and ground squirrels and and anything that's in the way anything that's going to eat your crops well in the in the jungle well that's what they're doing they're all this burning all this Amazon fires [ __ ] that goes on is every year is people coming in and 60% of it is for beef but the other percent of it is for papaya and corn and cacao I see a lot of stuff where they're like oh sustainable Cacao from the Amazon I'm like how is it sustainable Cacao from the Amazon you cut down an ecosystem in trees that have Mill thousands of species living on them right it's not and so sustainable sustainable is one of those words like organic people like to throw it around on theack I mean that's like uh that that apal stuff they call that organic
you know you know what that is no it's this coating that they put on vegetables and fruit to keep it from going bad the wax well it's some weird sub what what's the ingredients of apal so like part of it is quote unquote organic but they don't tell you what the actual ingredients are AAL is a plantbased coating that's applied to fruits and vegetables to help them stay fresh longer seems normal right like yeah yeah it's plant-based but what's in there it's uh commonly found organic apples but you're supposed to wash it off with soap and water like we were reading that if you have an avocado so we were in Elk camp and we were reading about this stuff cuz we had uh starlink starlink is [ __ ] amazing that's how we do it oh dude it's is it's like the size of this uh cigar box I know and you put it down on the ground and you get [ __ ] highs speeed internet in the middle of nowhere um so we reading that they were saying that to uh take it off of avocados you dunk the avocado in boiling water for 10 seconds and then rinse it off like what are you talking about what's in this stuff also nobody knows that I don't know that right so I come up here I'm eating that [ __ ] exactly most people are just going to eat the apple they're not going to wash it off with soap and water but the thing is like they're saying it's plant-based and organic like that's that's a thing like sustainable these words that people use that make you feel okay about what's going on but I mean I don't even know what the [ __ ] is in there say use a brush a brush scrub it do you scrub your apples what the [ __ ] are you talking about why are you putting something on the Apple that I need to scrub it says only you can only remove it 100% by peeling it off oh my God but I don't know that's of an apple cuz Apple's like you want to eat this click on that how to wash remove appeal coating vegetable coating let's see if we can watch a video it'll show us how to do it go anywhere let's see which one pick uh let's go with the first one that lady she's so she's peeling it it yeah why do you peel produce but isn't a lot of the nutrients in the skin slide wax and peel so this is different though this is wax yeah this is uh that's cartonu barx that's like normal but
appeal is a new product and it's one of those yeah okay let's see what this lady has to talk let's talk about appeal I don't like her earrings but let's listen to her and reduce the use of plastic this compound uses plant material to make monoglycerides and diglycerides AKA fats a fat coating on fruits and vegetables the intent less plastic amazing longer shelf life fabulous but human cost what human cost these fats are extracted from Plants using ethylacetate and heptane O in the chemical process to make these fats they add ingredients that contain heavy metals oh great not all fats that come from plants are safe for human consumption generally speaking olive oil comes from plants and it's healthy canola oil wrap seed oil cotton seed oil are fats that come from plants but not healthy they cause a lot of inflammation it all depends on how the fats were extracted and how the chemical compound was created at this time there's no human trials to show what happens to humans who consume fruits and vegetables with appe pealed on them on a regular basis oh great keep going yeah why would there be human trials on something that people eat and it's all over supermarkets but there's a lot of stuff coming out right now about the safety of our food oh yeah I keep hearing about this it keeps showing up yeah well there was a big Hearing in front of the Senate that uh Brigham berer who was on yesterday uh he was talking about it you know in front of all these representatives and they're trying to explain what the system is and how [ __ ] it is and how there's most of these European countries and Canada there's a lot of ingredients particularly dyes that we use like you know he was talking about how lucky charms that you buy in America uh you can't sell it in Canada they have to sell a completely different Lucky Charms in Canada because Canada doesn't allow all these dyes because they super bright color thing yeah those are toxic dyes and we allow them because we want people to and there's also a bunch of other ingredients that make the food more addictive those are in our food supplies and some of them are illegal in other countries it's not good and there's it it seems like the way he was describing it is like the FDA is just completely
overwhelmed and they they you know and the companies are just pushing this stuff through and it's it's kind of like the way we described it yesterday it's like a hoarder's house like how do you clean this up like you get into a hoarder's house you're like oh God yeah where do where do we [ __ ] start that's what our food systems like our food system is like a hoarder's house well I heard that guy I don't remember his name there he was like he's a capitalist in the last week um you guys were talking about um he was saying that like when he travels abroad he can eat whatever he wants and then when he comes back to the US he puts on weight yes and uh that was chth yeah that was a great one he was he was incredibly intelligent and and then I was looking up something something else popped up where they were saying that the bread in in like Subway sandwiches is considered cake in Europe because of the sugar content yeah some countries consider it cake cuz it's it's mostly it's like it's [ __ ] cake not really it's [ __ ] we have [ __ ] food and you know I don't eat most of that stuff but if you do you're going to be really unhealthy and most people aren't educated you know it took me a long time to understand this stuff and mostly I mean I tried to eat healthy before that but mostly through the podcast and talking to people getting an understanding of how bad the stuff really is for you and then experimenting with diet and watching how much better my body felt and and seeing my friends who don't do it and they just look like hell and you're mostly carnivore now yeah yeah mostly fruits and uh mostly meat and fruits yeah I mean I hardly eat any vegetables at all but I don't avoid them like if I want if I go out to dinner and I want to have a Caesar salad or something I'll eat it it doesn't seem to bother me but what does seem to bother me is pasta pasta and Bread's really hit home they they really wreck me but not in Europe um went to Italy last summer had pasta had pizza no problem at all but what I don't why there's a bunch of things that we do uh Robert F Kennedy Jr explained a lot of it so did Gary Brea he explained a lot of it one of them is uh enriched flour what's so-called enriched flour contains a bunch of chemicals like folic acid and a bunch of [ __ ] your body has a
hard time digesting it's also they use heirloom wheat in in Italy and heirloom wheat is the original wheat what we did was we changed wheat to make higher yield so that a smaller piece of land you can get more weed out of it so because of that it has more complex glutens makes it more difficult for your body to process and then on top of that the big one may be this is a lot there's a lot of speculation about this but there's there's some serious evidence that most people who eat the common American diet uh it's what was it the number of the people that had Roundup in their system so glyphosate what yeah glyphosate is a uh a really powerful pesticide that they spray on all kinds of different plants and I think it's somewhere in the neighborhood of 90% of people tested had glyphosate in their system Roundup spr kill everything exactly and it's illegal in some countries and should be illegal in America but the problem is if you make it illegal how are these monocrop agriculture companies going to function okay it's 80% 87% of children 87% of children so this is 2022 uh I would imagine this goes up every year 80% of Americans have round up in their urine that is so crazy that's so so dangerous that's terrifying and it's also fairly new in terms of human history I mean I think Roundup is only bit around since the is it the 90s when did Roundup when did glyphosate start becoming ubiquitous on on crops it's [ __ ] dangerous man because we're rolling the dice a lot of the stuff that people eat causes long-term Health consequences and so when you're dealing with shortterm stuff like stuff that's been around for five six years it takes a long time before you figure out what's happening Al so 74 Roundup which contains active ingredients glyphosate was first introduced to commercial agriculture in 74 so like so scroll down so we can see like when it like ramps up so 74 okay wasn't widely used until 96 that's what I I read so Mona began selling genetically modified seeds that were resistant to Roundup this allowed Farmers to spray their entire crop bed heads with round up without risking losing their it's an herbicide right yeah okay not a pesticide an herbicide but it's [ __ ] terrible for you
terrible and 80% of people have it in their blood Roundup microplastics DDT yeah and then in the and then what was it I think it was during the Gold Rush times that everybody was using lead to to to replug cans after they opened them and then you know thousands of people died from lead poisoning before they figured it out Shane Gillis has a great joke about George Wasington George Washington's Dentures were made out of lead that's why George Washington was such a [ __ ] psycho he like lead poisoning he wasn't Brave he was just insane um I read that when they were talking about the amount of plastic that people find like in most men have uh plastic in their sperm plastic in their their testicles you have plastic in your brain and a lot of that plastic is uh the plastic that's derived from PVC so it's coming from water pipes I thought our water pipes are metal some water pipes are metal but when I used to do construction we did a lot of houses where they use PVC pipes yeah see this this a lot of PVC pipes underneath kitchen sinks and stuff so all that stuff when water's going through that you're picking up these little particles of plastic and that little those little particles of plastic you know you cook your food in it you drink a glass of water from the tap all that stuff is getting you plastic and then there's cooking in microwave you know if you have like one of those things you lift up and you know have a piece of plastic over the lid and you cook microwave with that and it's in a plastic Bowl that's all [ __ ] getting into your body that's all getting in your blood well I I scared myself with that because we had plastic cups on an expedition and we boiled coffee and then I poured it into the plastic cup and I was like I like we got to stop doing this so we started bringing like metal and glass cups on on Expeditions obviously they make stuff for campers that you can get you know and that's why we switched these steel cups here we we used to just go through so many bottles of water I was like this is [ __ ] so we bought a filtration system and you know and and started using steel cups but it's like our this whole thing in America one of the things we talked about yesterday with Brigham is the make America healthy again movement which is Robert Kennedy Jr and
a bunch of other folks that are involved in this and it's exciting that this is gaining steam because people are concerned about their health and they are concerned about all the different chemicals that are in your [ __ ] food but the problem is now that's been attached to right Wing ideology so people are calling people that are interested in that far right people and it's just if you're worried about food safety yeah it's nuts man but it's just because it's attached to Trump it's because the Trump Administration you know make America great again and also make America healthy again with Robert Kennedy Jr he's involved in that so people are just labeling that as some sort of alt-right [ __ ] and woo woo [ __ ] and it's not it's [ __ ] dangerous for all of us we really need to wake up isn't it also true though that that in America at least like the poorest people are usually the ones with the worst diets absolutely so I mean like you like you've naturally progress towards going okay so I eat elk and I eat vegetables and I care about where I get my stuff from but people that aren't able to make that decision that would seem to me there there certain things where you go shouldn't we all agree on this yeah you know food safety shouldn't we just all agree with this I don't understand should be political at all how that becomes political when it comes to Nature conservation I never understood how that you know I'm like we clean can be solved and this is what's [ __ ] it's like we have so much money to solve other Count's problems and we don't have any money to solve our own health problems that's very strange it's it's very shortsighted and very bizarre and we need to do something about it we we need to do something about it now it's just it's it's really scary when you think that this if this unchecked happens these corporations will continue to sell you things that are very bad for you if they're profitable as long as they're not penalized for it and I guarantee you those people that know that the people that are in part they probably don't eat any of that [ __ ] it's like Steve Job I don't know if it's true heard that Steve Jobs wouldn't give his kids screens yeah they know mean while you go to restaurants you see little kids with an
iPad sitting on a tray just standing there so their parents can have a conversation the kids just like hypnotized by some [ __ ] cartoon kids are swiping before they're talking they know this motion oh yeah they got that finger out yeah they try to do it to magazines you ever see little kids do that yo I saw saw a kid try to expand a magazine I think I did that once I was just hanging out with a baby and I was like look at this picture and I showing him a book and he put his hands on it and he went and I was like no it doesn't work like that I went I think I almost did that once I think I looked at a magazine I brought my hand up what the [ __ ] are you doing yeah my thing is uh the worst thing that I've done recently is I didn't have I you know I start doing activities without my phone on me and I like I went for a run and I saw something cool and I was like oh I need to take a picture of that and I was like how just I the the idea that I couldn't take a picture of something right had become something that I forgot about right I take a picture of everything I probably take 400 pictures a day I'm like I like that logo bang I like that street bang like it's cool to be able to do it but now we're also inundated with images all over the world and a lot of them are horrific events which is the things that people are trying to capture the most so it's like every day like what what's going on today like there's right now Iran is bombing Israel so there's missile do you know about this nope it's [ __ ] terrifying dude it's on like Donkey Kong right now see if you can get some of the footage Iran is launching hundreds of missiles at at Israel and there was a mass shooting some sort of a terror attack in Tel Aviv today as well so there's some sort of coordinated attack on Israel obviously Israel just did that stuff with Hezbollah where they blew up up the pagers and blew up walkie-talkies and killed a bunch of people and then shot a bunch of bombs into Lebanon and it's all getting it's all getting very very scary it's all ramping up in a a [ __ ] terrifying way but this video it also shows that the Iron Dome you know Israel's famous uh missile defense system it doesn't seem to be catching all of them I mean if you have enough
launched your way at the same time some of them are going to sneak through so this is this is what it looks like right now it's [ __ ] crazy these are all missiles Man flying at Israel jeez yeah it's [ __ ] terrifying and the Iron Dome I mean this isn't even the best video the video that I was seeing was them impacting and and the Iron Dome is basically a a system to shoot them out of the sky yes so this is where you see the Iron Dome is working so when they blow up that's the Iron Dome so what it is is they find the trajectory of these missiles the ones that are going to open air area they let them slip through cuz it's not going to harm anything and then like those those are hitting down but the ones that are going into the city area they shoot down and you know I I don't know how many missiles they have to do this I mean you'd have to have [ __ ] thousands on standby CU if they just launch enough at you you're not going to have enough missiles it's like they launched 180 ballistic missiles wow you imagine being in a city and you see 100 80 missiles coming at you I don't know how people live continuously in areas where there's war zones like I know like my friend Matt Gutman from ABC News like he works there and I've seen him running through the streets and doing that hard-hitting stuff but there's also just people getting their groceries yeah they like yeah man this happens every day like I have friends that live in Israel human beings are very adaptable unfortunately well fortunately because that's why we're still here yeah but unfortunately we get accustomed to some pretty horrific conditions and that's that's what people are accustomed to I mean imagine living in Gaza imagine that you you were living in a place where literally a year ago today it was fine it was was normal yeah and then now it's rubble and there's tens of thousands of people dead and that's an example of what you're saying about seeing these images all the time I had I remember when that popped off and I'm a big believer in you you pick one thing that for most people unless you're you know Elon or somebody that can have a bunch of different things going on but for most of us you you got to live your life and you got to pick one thing that you
can help from a lot of people that's that's your family for me I've dedicated myself to protecting the Amazon when it comes to everything else like when I start opening my phone I remember this I was at my friend's house and it was 7:00 in the morning and I opened my phone and it was a picture of a guy lifting his dead baby with a crushed skull and I threw my phone across the room and it ruined my whole day and how like I I it's it's absolutely horrific and I I have become become a person that really Shields myself from a lot of what's going on because the hysteria levels right now yeah I don't think like even World War II times they go okay Pearl Harbor just hit off and people like wow this is crazy but but I don't think you were inundated with it all day long you read the newspaper you talked to a few people and then you're like all right well cool I got to go get Johnny from school and blah blah blah blah blah right you didn't see it on your phone 247 Israel's popping off the south is getting flooded you know the Amazon's burning everything is happening all at once and it's all coming through on the screen so it says Iran launches missile attack on Israel but Israeli military says no casualties reported so I guess that that was the thing that we're saying that the Iron Dome when they know that something's going to go to an open area where there's no one there they they don't even bother wasting a missile on that a US defense official said the United States intercepted some of the missiles to help defend Israel so we're over there too doing that the IDF is doing and will do everything necessary to protects the civilians of the state of Israel the Israeli military said in a statement warning people in the country to stay in shelters the explosions you hear originate from interceptions or Falls of missiles the air defense system detects and intercepts threats all the time so what happened in Tel Aviv today Jamie there was some sort of mass shooting in Tel Aviv that coincided with this which is really scary um you know it's like what they experienced on October 7th okay [ __ ] ads at least eight dead and suspected terror attack shooting in Tel
Aviv so they even oh so Jesus Christ scroll down to that image so some dudes just yo just gunning people down dead scroll up the deadly ordal unfoldment two gunman jumped off a train the central Israeli city of jafa Jaffa and started firing at just p.m. local just after 7:00 p.m. local time according to authorities eight killed at least seven wounded and you know a lot of people look at that guy's dead right there a lot of people there are armed too which is [ __ ] crazy civilians yeah hot girls in in in Israel like you can see them at a coffee shop with the [ __ ] with an AR hanging off a rifle sling yeah there's like a a bunch of videos of them cuz so many of these people you have mandatory military service in Israel yeah I know so all the civilians have to there's no civilians like everyone is at least a former Soldier you got to be ready right yeah you have to be saw [ __ ] like that hot girls walking on the street with machine guns hot girls with machine guns how nuts but that's just the world they live in it's like they're just hanging out yep there's a baby right I me look she has like cute shoes on like at any moment it could pop off and so they don't [ __ ] around they just stay strapped they don't just stay strapped they stay strapped with [ __ ] weapons of war those are those are no joke those are no joke that ain't a sick shooter no she's got a a gigantic magazine she probably got spare magazines yeah and she probably knows how to shoot it she was in the know how to uses it yeah so it's men and women men yeah women have to join the Israeli military as well look they're surrounded I mean this is this is something that's very different it's very different than us well I think that one of the problems that I see with us is I think that people have forgotten like I grew up with the World War II Generation all the all my old uncles as I was growing up P like you know these were guys that had you know either storms beaches in the South Pacific or were in Europe and so World War II was fresh on their minds it was part of the culture I grew up in and I think when I look at kids born you know 911 and down or later I I think we've forgotten the fact that safety is a huge privilege oh yeah we grow up safe like the some of the people the things
that they're screaming about or worried about or whatever else it's like some Unity would happen from remembering the fact that that that's that's a reality that we could be so few attacks on American soil you know you have Pearl Harbor which is kind of America you know Hawaii should be its own country I mean it's kind of we own Hawaii I mean I guess it's good that Hawaii gets the protections of the United States but it's kind of crazy that it's five M 5 hours rather by airplane over the ocean in the middle until you get to ha why and that's considered America but I mean I don't know how they feel about it I'm assuming they'd probably like to have sovereignty um but the the point is like that was World War II so that was Pearl Harbor that's an attack on American soil what's that what's after that it's 911 911 that's crazy like we are so used to being safe whereas you think of even Russia what Russia went through the the losses that Russia went through during World War II absolutely [ __ ] horrific yeah and they've done that throughout history there's been conflicts throughout history in Russia now you go into any other part of the world I saw something terrible today some [ __ ] workers at the Great Wall of China they didn't want to go the long way around the wall so they broke down a section of the Great Wall of China so they could drive through it did they have Machinery did they have sledgehammers yeah they were do [ __ ] construction work out there so they just broke down the Great Wall oh they're going to get worse than jail China yeah they're going to turn you into [ __ ] suitcase they [ __ ] that's terrible they'll make you make iPhones for 20 years and then they're going to turn you into a jacket that's terrible it's [ __ ] horrible man it's and it's it's people are just so gross like imagine that mahogany tree that you saw like look at these [ __ ] they broke through the Great Wall constru workers accused of plowing a hole through the great wall monsters dude this reminds me there was a there was this I hated this story there was a beautiful tree between these two Hills I think it was in the UK or Ireland I think it was the UK and like a 16-year-old went out with a chainsaw and just cut this tree down it
was this iconic tree and no one could figure it out for like two days and he just went and cut it down and it's just like man just yeah people are gross people are gross and we all people are also very shortsighted and sometimes don't even understand the consequence of what they're doing they just do things you know I I I normally I would agree with you I just think I think the world that I've been living in the the past year so I've been in in rooms and out in the wild with so many incredible people and I think that more than ever people I I agree we're we're we're we're we're moments away from disaster in any given capacity but there's also we're also alive at a time in history where people are more considerate than they've ever been yeah I think so too yeah I think there's just you're going to get everything right you're going to get people that are willing to launch missiles at Israel you're going to get people that are willing to chop down ancient mahogany trees and then can get people like you that dedicate your life to saving the rainforest it's one of the cool things about people because it makes people like you so much more exceptional it makes people so much more interesting because it's rare and then someone dedicating their entire life to doing what you've done is even more rare and that's part of the cool thing about people I think and it's it's a horrible thing to say but I think it's unfortunately true you need evil to appreciate good you need hate to appreciate love it's just a part of the way the human mind and our our just overall psychology and this the way we operate in the world it's unfortunate but it's it's a part of being a person and I think hate and anger and destruction actually motivates love and construction and and progress and doing things correct and recognizing what can happen if you do things the wrong way let's do things the right way it like organic farming like people changing their Farms to regenerative agricultural Farms is coming out of people who are looking at these industrial monocrop agriculture farms and the waste that it produces which is legal the waste that it produces in river systems it's [ __ ] insane there's a guy that we've had on his name is uh Will Harris and will is from uh this Farm in Georgia
called White Oaks pastures it's a regenerative farm he got this Farm it's a family-owned farm they've had it forever and it took him years to change this farm from an industrial Farm to regenerative agriculture but there's a section of the river near his property where his property line meets his neighbor so his neighbor has an industrial farm and he has regenerative agriculture and you could see it in the river there's a clear line of differentiation look at that I'm guessing his is the clear one yes [ __ ] all that stuff so most of these farmlands the top soil is gone there's no there whoa Jesus there's no minerals there's no nutrients there's no nothing and so you have to use industrial strength fertilizers you have to luse all this garbage and [ __ ] and so that stuff it just sits on the top and so when the rain comes and when they spray the crops and water the crops the runoff goes right in the river so these poor fish are just getting [ __ ] choked to death on all this [ __ ] and then there's the pesticides and the herbicides and whatever the [ __ ] they're spraying and this guy's trying to turn it around he's trying to do the right thing that's I I that's not will okay I don't know who that gentleman is I think he works at will um but he's explaining uh how bad the situation is that comes off of these other Farms so the left is what the creek supposed to look like the right is what happens and no consequences you should be in trouble for this right if you like hey you can't run your farm this way like is this what happens when you run your farm this way stop the farm okay we got to figure out how to do this the right way is there a way to for your water to look like the water's 6 in away is there a way well that's the only way you can make farming so in Russia organic like they don't even allow genetically modified crops anymore really no no Putin is like this is [ __ ] like this should be illegal when you're a dictator you can do stuff like that but but that but that's a that's a fundamental thing you know if you go to to a building with a sledgehammer or to the Great Wall of China and you start messing with it you're going to get in trouble yes and it seems like you can cut down forest pollute the rivers dump [ __ ] in the
ocean and for the most part it's okay yeah no one's really going to come after you and we can do a lot less of that too if we here's there's another another issue commoditizing hemp a lot of the stuff that we cut trees down for is paper paper like let's Google in America how many uh Acres of trees are cut down every year for paper so the demonization of uh the recreational drug cannabis came entirely from hemp the commodity it wasn't about the no people had consumed that drug for thousands of years it's one of the safest drugs in terms of like Risk profile the ld50 of marijuana is nuts what's ld50 ld50 is lethal dose at 50% is that can you lethal dose yourself with the marijuana I used to have a joke about it like the only way the the only way you die from marijuana is if uh they drop a bundle of it from a CIA drug plan and it hits you in the head like you can do stupid things that could wind up getting kill bu you can abuse everything right you certainly abuse marijuana and by the way I want to say marijuana is not totally safe everybody thinks it's totally safe no it's not there's certain people that have a tendency towards schizophrenia and high does marijuana has been proven to cause schizophrenic breaks in people Alex Baron wrote a book about it's called tell your children and I agree with them I've I've met people that have had schizophrenic breaks from marijuana 40% of the world's industrial logging goes into making paper this is expected to reach 50% in the near future us uses approximately 68 million trees each year to produce paper and paper products worldwide consumption of paper has risen by 400% in the last 40 years with 35% of the harvested trees being used for paper manufacturer that's crazy crazy and you're saying hemp could grow faster like kind of like could grow faster that's actually renewable like that term that people like to throw around renewable that's actually renewable grows like a weed because it kind of is a weed my friend Todd uh used to have a like a stock of a mature hemp plant on his desk and it's about this thick around like if that was a piece of Oak it would be really heavy but it's hard like this table which is Oak but it's light like Styrofoam it's light like balsa wood but it's hard so it has incredible power like in its fibers its
fibers are extr extremely unusual so they make the most durable clothing like canvas the word canvas comes from Cannabis but is this weed itself like like if you have like a weed plant it's not the same thing well you can it's the same thing but you can also grow strains of it that are not psychoactive at all it's just a a similar same family so they weren't they weren't growing it as a commodity for drug consumption they were growing it to make paper see this is what happened I'm taking you down the dark conspiracy of marijuana Road what happened is in the 1930s they invented a machine called the decorticator and what the decorticator did was it allowed you to effectively process hemp fiber easily and quickly so when Eli Whitney came out with the cotton gen now all of a sudden cotton became a very easy cloth to use and people start wearing cotton ubiquitously right well what they used to use was hemp because hemp is way way more durable I mean crazy difference like I have a hemp Jiu-Jitsu ghee made by datsusara and you can't rip this [ __ ] like you grab it and I've I've had one one of my GES is like eight years old but if I have a cotton ghee eight years in that shit's torn apart yeah so the only thing that goes on those things are the threads and you know I don't even I guess you can make hemp threads I don't even know if they do but the the point is it's like far more durable as a paper it's a far superior paper far superior like it's much tougher it's tough to like I've had pemp paper demonstrated to me like it's hard to rip man crazy it's weird it's a [ __ ] alien plant it really is and when they invented this decorticator well William Randolph Hurst who also owned Hurst Publications who also own paper mills and scientific America had on the cover of their magazine hemp the new billion dooll crop and it's a show showed decorticator to him it was all when they invented this thing so the propaganda to stop the industry of hemp from exploding Dupont came out with a chemical composition for nylon there was all like they were going to use nylon for ropes hemp is what they always use for ropes hemp's what they use for sales so that's a decorticator that looks like a modern one um doesn't look too complicated either well it's it's basically like a
wheel with some teeth to it and it grinds the [ __ ] out of the hemp and what they used to use back in day was slave labor so slave labor and you know poor people would have to do all this incredibly backbreaking work to break down the fibers because they're so tough and durable well then they invented this machine and once this machine got rolling they're like oh [ __ ] let's start using hemp cuz it's way better so all this Forest cutting down [ __ ] is completely unnecessary and it's because a paper guy wanted it 100% and a paper guy in the 1930s and and so he got together with Harry anslinger and they utilized all these people that they were using to make uh alcohol illegal the pro excuse me the prohibitionists during the time where they were going after you know whiskey manufacturers and gin makers and these moonshine people which is where NASCAR came from by the way NASCAR came out of Moonshiners driving quick yeah they needed a souped up car so they took those people who were just arresting people all over the country for alcohol and then they sicked them on on marijuana and marijuana was never the term for cannabis yeah marijuana was a a slang term for a wild Mexican tobacco a totally different plant so William Randolph HST starts printing articles in his paper about Mexicans and black guys who are smoking this new drug marijuana and raping white women and then they fund Reaper Madness and they fund these movies these propaga from all that marijuana cigarettes it all comes from hemp it all comes from the commodity from them having this interest in paper research suggests that hemp is twice as effective as trees at absorbing and locking up carbon so hemp is one of the fastest growing plants in the world can grow four meters high in 100 days so in 100 days me high in 100 days in 100 days you have a new crop y it's the best [ __ ] thing we can grow for paper which is 40% of all the trees were chopping down and it takes forever you ever been to Old growth forests in like uh the Pacific Northwest where they do logging no well you've been to the Amazon you've seen the the worst slash and burn art but but the point is if you go to these cut places these places where they cut the trees they grow new trees they plant new trees there but it takes forever it takes I mean SE tree
hundreds of years thousands of years there's I I see those pictures I can't remember this name he he takes a picture with the trees before the loggers come through and I mean trees you know double the size of this room and then he has this picture with the tree after and it's [ __ ] heartbreaking it's a horrible thing man it's it's horrible that we can just walk up to something that's a thousand years old and make a [ __ ] basket out of it like this is unnecessary it's totally unnecessary yep and it could well it can all be mitigated this can all be mitigated all of it can you know the real problem is Hardwoods you know Hardwoods are very very valuable and people like them and you know and they're protected in some places and not others like in California if you have oak trees you can't chop them down unless you get a permit we had a tree that was about to fall in our house it's like it's like it's on the way going and you know California the Earth tends to shake a little bit a little bit things go sideways and your [ __ ] house gets crushed by a tree but you know you have to there's we we have to figure out how our desire for hardwood like the the source of that hardwood if your desire for a beautiful you know mahogany table they're beautiful gorgeous look at your desk amazing but if you got could go to the Amazon and see that someone chopped down a tree that you were describing that massive tree that people had probably hadn't seen in a hundred years or whatever maybe ever who knows some of these trees are 1,200 years old maybe there's no one else dumb enough to walk through that place with no water we might have been the first people to ever see that when I was in Scotland they were claiming this I don't know if this is true but uh because there's a lot of really old [ __ ] in Scot they have these Stones yeah we were in Scotland there's these guide stones on the ground and I go what's that from they go we don't know I go how old is it they're like it's about 5,000 years old I was like what you just walk up to a 5,000 year old stone there's a stone circle out there there's a stone circle like that someone has constructed it's similar to Stonehenge but on a much much smaller scale and it's older than Stonehenge and it's just on the street in front of this
dude's house so this guy said you want to see no no it has a little plaque that's like that big so we got out of the car and we walk over to you could walk on it you could stand on it I'm like this is so weird like how old is this they're like we're not exactly sure but it's thousands and thousands of years old like The Druids made knows where it came from they don't know they don't know who did it they don't know why this guide Stone was just on the ground next to this uh the the this pathway and I was like what is this like that's a you know 5,000 year old gu Stone like what is what who who may put that there why isn't there a museum built around this [ __ ] thing that's crazy that it's just laying on the ground no I mean it's it's what this is this a meteorite yes that is Amed that's super um weren't they saying that so they were telling me that the oldest tree in the world is in Scotland I was like that I don't know how that's true I thought the oldest tree was has to be in Africa wouldn't it be I I thought it was in the Middle East somewhere it was like one of those it's like you know like 6 feet tall and like super Ry and like they said like predates Jesus like you know it's like Ancient Ancient real yeah like what's the oldest tree in the this is just I didn't want to tell the guy get the [ __ ] out of here this ain't the oldest tree he was he was giving me a tour a tour of the land one of the oldest trees in Europe these are CS these are CS they cows they call the cows C I go what are you saying man um Scotland's oldest tree so it's 3,000 and 9,000 years old w between three and nine that's a big swing yeah they don't know they're just get I mean that's the thing about that area there's a lot of just guessing there's a lot of just guessing um so see if you can show me a photo of the oldest tree yeah they're gnarly looking like you're saying it's not like a massive tree no it's you know when you walk by it you would think oh it's just a tree you would never think that thing's 9,000 years Olde but I'm curious what the oldest tree period is I think that's the one that's the one they were saying is the oldest tree well this this is just what this guy is telling me what is that one the oldest tree in the world where what's that one that one looks like the Middle East I don't think so no
couldn't be right I don't know bristle cone where's that one Pine great B 100 years doesn't say where's bristle cone California California so the oldest tree in the world's in California no hold on it says something about Atlanta oh no no no it says it yeah I don't think they're think they're saying trees Atlanta's the website that's kind weird is that maybe just like trees around the world that they're studying in Atlanta wrong Rabbit Hole as all oldest tree in the world looks like [ __ ] looks like you would expect the oldest tree you wouldn't expect the oldest tree to look like those great redwoods California California doesn't have a single [ __ ] Leaf so how old is that one live how old is the oldest tree in the world 4,855 years old yikes Methuselah they have a name for it so some [ __ ] you know there's some dude that's thinking about turn that into a desk you know there's some [ __ ] Tech [ __ ] uh US Forest Service doesn't tell visitors precisely where Methuselah stands nor does the organization release photographs of the ancient tree someone's Gus yeah someone's going to [ __ ] it up um can you can you look up what the what the what the um like how old the General Sherman is I'm curious about this aorus but this is interesting Jimmy because this is I guess that other website's incorrect because the other website was saying it might be 9,000 years old this is the same tree right here I think the U from northern Wales would that be yeah but that's not Scotland different country but I'm sure they have some old [ __ ] too Prometheus I yeah I think that's the thing about a lot of these old old trees is it's kind of guesswork yeah I don't think they really know and I think it probably behooves them behooves them to exaggerate a little Hooves you know because uh it's kind of a good bragging Point say we got the oldest Tre in the world yeah it's a draw for your for your town whatever sort of there's no one out there it was really cool like people there's no one in Scotland bro this [ __ ] Scotland is like the whole country is like the size of Austin something about the oldest in terms of population Living Single stem tree on earth single stem tree not all complicated like the ones we just saw
this is like a pole a lot of the rainforest trees are like this where it's just a pillar General Sherman so is that a Sequoya yeah yeah man you you have you gone up to Northern California did that rainfor us I haven't been up to the northern Cali but the where the General Sherman is it looks you know you know like if you play like Super Mario 64 like when you get like you go into like giant land mhm there was a sequoia tree that had fallen over I mean the thing was you know 36 feet thick I don't know but I was like I couldn't climb on top of the tree and it fell over and it went from here for like a city block yeah they have one that has a tunnel carved out yeah where you can drive your car through it they're so cool and people want to cut them down yeah there's people frothing to cut those things down oh yeah people are gross especially some [ __ ] psychopath path who's on Aderall Sherman tree contains more wood volume in its trunk than any other tree on Earth and you know that's not the that seems like to make sense to me like that's the oldest tree you know when I see that little ratty little [ __ ] bush in the desert I'm like that's not the old you lie [ __ ] yeah see I thought it would be somewhere on the side of a mountain where where it's like high wind and they're growing slow over a thousand years so no humans would have been up there and every year it's just adding you know a millimeter to its to its you know it's know so much about the world in comparison to what they knew 500 years ago but yet we still know so little there're still they still like 2010 they found a new human species to the denisovans they didn't even know the denisovans were a thing until 2010 and now they think that the denisovans like a lot of the aborigin people in Australia have denisovan in them and maybe possibly even Neanderthal in them they only described the fact that there was two species and not one species of [ __ ] elephant in Africa in the 9s well wasn't a gorilla like a myth until they went I think gorillas were like mythical creatures until like the 1800s like when did they discover gorillas I mean I think the first European to see a gorilla probably had saw gorill they couldn't get the word out but like the first Explorer with his you know his chain mail to show up and
look at a gorilla it wasn't until early 19th century the people native from the areas where where they live such as the Democratic Republic of the Congo and gabone knew gorillas better but among people outside of Africa they were mostly mythological creatures there's humanlike big 400 lb monsters in the like insane yeah well there's insane there's the this is a really controversial one it's the Bondo ape and that's a a particular area of the Congo called Billy and Billy has this unusual strain of chimpanzees that have a Crest on their head like a gorilla so like this is a normal chimpanzee skull see how it's smooth on the top gorillas have this big Crest because their Mand muscles are so massive because they mostly just they only eat plants so they're mostly eating fiber so they're just crushing roots and all day long grab on massive muscles well these chimpanzees they thought initially they perhaps were a hybrid between chimpanzees and gorillas cuz they're much bigger they're like F feet tall a hybrid between chimp and they're enormous it's a really controversial thing like some people think that it's just an unusual group of chimpanzees like there's this area in Africa there's a documentary on it called Relentless enemies it's an amazing documentary about this River changed course over the years and these lions got stuck on this island with nothing but water buffalo so all the lions look like yel Romero they just look [ __ ] Brock Lesnar Lions is super female lions as as big as male lions in other parts of Africa super Jack female lions just [ __ ] up these water buffalo well they do all the heavy lifting yeah because they but they have to adapt to their environment so there was some thought that maybe this was a a particular strain of chimpanzee that had adapted and was just unusually large but they're [ __ ] huge man there's a guy named Carl Arman he's a Swiss wildlife photographer and he dedicated his life to exploring these animals and documenting them and he got photographs of them a camera trap walking on two legs bro you guys see what they look like oh yeah they look nutty they look nutty mean they're hunched over a little bit but they they look so much bigger than a regular chimpanzee this is a real thing this isn't like crypto no no no no
not no they have they have tissue samples they have bones separ DNA yep plenty of videos of these things there it's an actual animal the question is is this a subspecies is it a completely different species it's like right you know they have Bobo the tissue well it's it's a novel tissue though right so it's a new thing so if it is they're they're trying to figure out exactly what happened and how many of them there are and it seems to be in this incredibly dense War torn area of the Congo where these things live but we know there's bonobos right which kind of look like chimpanzees but they're really different they're not violent at all they just [ __ ] yeah they just make they they have arguments they [ __ ] each other and that's how they get over everything they use hemp yeah they probably do they St monkeys I wonder what's in their diet but these monkeys are these chimpanzees are very different than the other chimpanzees like from Chimp Nation where they're super violent and they kill monkeys all day and they you know they fight over fruit chimp chimp nation is the is the show netx Netflix document [ __ ] amazing that's the one where the scientists were embedded with these chimpanzees for 20 years so the chimpanzees behaved completely normal when you say embedded like what Goodall did like s sitting there like right there they lived with so they set up camp in these forest and they had very clear rules number one stay 20 yard away always not much not much pretty close but when it gets closer to 20 yards get out of there no food don't bring any food don't look them in the eyes no [ __ ] around and so the chimpanzees they their whole life chimpanzee lives you know in the wild probably 15 20 years or whatever their whole life they've been around these people so they act completely normal those people are just like another tree just another thing that's not of con it doesn't steal resources from them it doesn't try to intimidate them it doesn't infringe on their territory never gets closer than 20 yard no worries so because of that they've got this insane footage it's one of the most incredible documentary series of all time and they study the social behavior between the chimpanzees and I had the guy on who directed it it was really
fascinating I'm like how often do they eat monkeys he's like dude we couldn't even show them all they just eat monkeys all day that's their favorite thing to do and they just rip them apart yeah and they didn't even know that until the '90s jimp hun monkeys alive it's crazy there's a monkey and he's this chimp has it like his hand is around its waist and it's just eating it from the hips down like this and the monkey go Jesus it's just got this little monkey face that looks so much like ours it's so close to us and this chimp's just chewing chunks they pulling a leg off and handed it to this other chimp and he's chewing it they share oh yeah they share well that's a big part of this this docu series interesting is how they set up the social structures their social structures are so similar to ours it's like we think that the biggest chimpanzees like the alpha male it's not some of them it's not it's a smart one who has made comrades and made a community and and is very fair chimpanzees have a very strong sense of fairness and being SL like if one of the elders doesn't get a piece of the monkey they get [ __ ] furious like what have you done like you have to make right like you have to like sooth people's or monkeys chimpanzees anger at being slided dude yeah well I when I was I always remember this as a kid I was watching a nature show and they they had a I have call it the third Beetle principal there the two male Beatles were battling and the females watching and while the two male Beatles are battling the third Beetle comes and [ __ ] the female that's what happens with elk yeah all the time and it was just like you know be a third they studied white tailed deer as well same same thing happens the big guys are fighting when the big guys are fighting the little sneaky ones like hey ladies yeah ladies like them see do you have any see if you can find a photograph of that uh Bondo ape yes please I need to again very the controversial though if he has because like people don't want to believe it's real same one right so that's one yeah that one's a dead one they shot at an airport holy look at the size of it compared to those guys it's much bigger than trying to get on a plane this is um you remember see that
movie The Congo it's a stupid movie like uh I I read the book it was it was a cool book where like the gorillas could like talk those but those chimpanzees the crazy chimpanzees were based on these Bondo Apes that's the idea so look at that look at that picture up in the top right with it the black and white one yeah well see if they find find the camera trap photo scroll down a little bit it'll probably be one of the first photos that you see there's a camera trap photograph of no that's a different one that's one that um lived in America if I saw that in the forest I would kill myself there's one they they called him humanz and they thought at one point in time that maybe somebody had [ __ ] a chimpanzee um these are all that's it that's it um where it says world of Carl Aman on the top shelf top yeah right there that's the camera trap photo that's not the best version of it I've seen more clear version but he's walking around and enormous the these guys said they had a Land Rover and they they they had a Defender and they stopped or whatever the truck was they stopped the truck in the road as one walked by and it was taller than the truck like what so they're huge they're enormous some of them are like I said they're like six foot tall chimpanzees and just imagine how strong a regular chimp is so that is that's definitely that one up there click on that that's uh click on the gallery so Carl AR is this guy who uh was this wildlife photographer that when they became aware of this subspecies see see the photographs of the skull see how right so the one behind it is a regular chimpanzee skull and then the the much larger one is the Bondo ape skull they also nest on the ground like gorillas yeah they're like nobody's [ __ ] with me yikes they're [ __ ] huge man damn and there's not a large population of them and they're not it's not very well studied because it's so remote and very [ __ ] dangerous to get there but you see those bones in the ground show that image again look at the size difference between the regular chimpanzee skull hu in the background and then the the Bondo ape in the foreground and look at the crest on the head nuts the the locals have two names for uh chimpanzees they call them tree beaters and lion Killers
lion Killers lion killers and the lion Killers first of all there's no lions in the jungle right Lion's not king of the jungle well there's no Lions the lions live in the savannah right so call them lion Killers is probably just a fun name but they have found they did did video one that was eating a Jaguar leopard rather a leopard but they don't know if it found the leopard dead and ate it they don't know what the [ __ ] happened could have cornered it did it really did they Jack a leopard I mean maybe maybe was a small leopard well you got to think if it's really six feet tall so a regular chimpanzee gets to be like a full grown male is probably like 180 lbs like a big giant Jack chimpanzee 180 lb and the strength of a 500 lb man like so you what you weigh probably close to it right you probably 180 yeah so your weight but the strength of a 500 lb man now imagine cool now imagine one that's not 5 feet tall but 6 feet tall and is not 200 lb but 300 lb or 350 what get that guy in the Octagon dud [ __ ] that there a regular chipan you would [ __ ] a up but that photograph of those two men that's sitting there with one that they shot yeah that's one that they think is confirmed to be one of these Bondo apes and it's so much bigger than them but you have to think like okay these guys like first of all they're in the background just like when you catch a fish you hold the fish out in front of you it's a perspective thing an Anaconda thing exactly but the the guy does have his hand on his shoulder and just there's some things you can't fake like the size of his nuts I was going to say the size of his nuts is the size of that guy's face and look at the size of his hand hand his hand's massive that's a massive chimpanzee grab on some serious branches with that um Google Hume cuz humans was a weird one they had this these people had this chimpanzee and they they dressed it up like a person and it had weird facial features where it looked like so similar to a person yesh it's we it looks weird there's better images of it and there's video of this but I think dude along the way that one right there to the left that yeah right there where you're at's good too so look at his face I don't like that strange right strange features and so could work at a bank very weird so it
led people to think that his name is Oliver it led people to think that Oliver was some sort of a hybrid but it doesn't seem like he is it just seems like he facial but look they put him in a [ __ ] suit and tie and [ __ ] and they're fine but he became sexually attracted to his care and preferred humans over chimps the the problem with those things is they're horny just like you know and he doesn't even know there's other chimps cuz he doesn't get to see them you know you look close enough he's like I'll [ __ ] you lady and like she's taking care of him it's like take care of this he's jikes he's a horny [ __ ] terrify chimpanzee I've heard that A Rang of T do that too I'm sure they're primates well this is uh you know that's that chimp Nation show that's on have you seen that on Netflix I haven't seen I've been I've been obsessed with the uh the 100 foot wave I'm not I'm SC Not chimp Nation uh chimp C crazy chimp crazy is all about these people that are like the Tiger King people that are all instead of having Tigers they have chimps just crazy people with chimps in their house yeah Carl's up he's like what the [ __ ] chimps they'll eat you Carl you know goddamn heartbeat this article about Oliver has this photo we've used a lot as I don't know oh that's not Oliver no that article bullsh he was taken okay yeah that's just another chimpanzee that's not him but he I'm sure they took him from the Congo I mean or where wherever there's apparently this was this was also something that we learned uh from the the guys from Chimp crazy that were on were explaining how this trade Works where they kidnap these babies from their mother and then they start raising them in captivity in America and some places like Wyoming it's legal so they all go to Wyoming and or was it Missouri where was it they buy chimps Missouri right I mean that the whole Tiger King thing that terrifying dude those people all are just normal people that have wild animals ligers dude they I don't know if I should say this they way before the Tiger King thing one of one of the dudes not the main Tiger King guy one of the other guys um and the the Myrtle Beach guy invited me to his place and he's like you got is that the guy runs the sex cult yeah and he was like you got to help me legitimize my [ __ ]
I'm a real conservationist and so oh God sure you are buddy me and my friend Mosen uh who you know we do all the photography all the Amazon Fire stuff together and we I was like you want to go go [ __ ] [ __ ] hang out with tigers for a weekend he's like yeah let's go and so they were like look we're legit you got to you know you're you're a real conservationist come over here tell the world about us yeah so what they do is they have people sit in a circle and you can go like with your date and pay for this and they put a tiger cub in your lap great cool but then what do you do with those 16 tiger cubs next year when they weigh 500 lb and that's the answer they all have an incinerator on site oh no yeah so they're breeding tigers and incinerating them so I was standing there so many weird things happened that weekend dude it was like it was going so when they get to be dangerous they just shoot them and burn them I don't know I I don't know how they euthanize them but they have an incinerator on site and they're producing tigers and you go where do the tigers go oh my God they go well you know oh no and they're going save tigers save the world and there's animals everywhere I was I was doing something and the girl walks by with a liger and I felt like I was on mushrooms the thing's [ __ ] head is this big yeah they so big you know when in Sandlot when they see the Beast and it's like it's like an animatronic giant it looked ridiculous this liger walked by and it was as tall as I was and I just went I don't like it here well it's a weird hybrid because I think it's is it a male tiger and a female lion or a male lion and a female tiger I think it's a male tiger so in the problem is in male lions the gene that regulates size exists so when a male lion breeds with a female lion I I might be [ __ ] this up but I know that this the problem with the lier why they're so big is because whe whether it's the male or the female so it's a hybrid off to a male lion and a tiger female okay so in the female lion then or in the male tiger one of them there's this Gene that regulates how big you get and it doesn't exist in the liger they don't look right they just they get so big their head their head how big did they get Jamie over 900b D Jesus Christ although
but a siber and tiger I think can also get like 900 lounds like that like an Emer tiger like I think they can get pretty big I think so too I think a lier is is way off the charts I think ligers might be bigger than that yep that was there scroll down a little bit Jamie just like there's the one 900 pbud that's the cat that's a dude yeah so this one says it get got to 922 lb Hercules the largest nonobese liger so he's non obese not fat they try to cheats that's some body positive [ __ ] he's obes I bet he's not if he's 922 Wow when he was 3 years old he weighed 408 lb 4 kg oh God my God 900 lb 408 kilogram oh my God and now it weighs oh my God value the Kings Animal Sanctuary in Wisconsin had a male liger named Nook who weighed over 1,213 lbs oh my God so uh lion and tiger in captivity are under 1,100 lounds like what is uh how big does a Siberian tiger get what's the largest Siberian tiger see that I would say 900 lb I feel like that upper limit is 900 lb and I have from nose to tail about 12 ft that's those such a big animal the SI 11 ft long yeah that B that book The Tiger is one of the best books in the world it's 10 foot 11 in long from nose to tail weigh 932 lbs look at that face bro they're so beautiful too that's what's crazy that it's a cat that lives in the snow like you think of tigers you think of India you think jungle yeah you don't think of a cat that lives in Siberia and it's the biggest one and messes up the Bears and controls the wolf population good Lord good Lord that paw oh my God yeah and just it's crazy that it's such a gorgeous thing that's killing you like when you see them it's probably part of the trick like you're like hypnotized by how beautiful it is like what look at this thing would you ever see in life and color they show you the spectrum that deer see in they don't see orange right cuz that was my question growing up as a kid I was like why like why would if you want to blend in why the why the hell would you be orange and white and black it seems like that's like the most it's like having a neon is the most dangerous thing in the forest is people especially people with guns yeah no no no but I'm saying before that is when but that's why they did it they
do it so that you don't get shot by hunters that's the whole reason why you have orange on sure but I'm saying it stands out but I'm saying so my question was why would a tiger because deer see orange just more tigers live in the grass and there's a lot of Shadows and Stripes yeah they show you they can move around they show you deer vision and it's they literally don't register that orange so it just looks like more green [ __ ] and a tiger vanishes it's such a cool clip it's on one of those like also why zebras have those funky Stripes I think it [ __ ] with them confuses I think all those lines [ __ ] with them CU they they're not seeing things like we're seeing this cup we're seeing you know your phone seeing writing I don't think they see like that they recogn like it's a lot of it is Edge detection and motion like you know I was just uh elk hunting and I got a video on my Instagram so yeah see how they like blend in so they would not see all that stuff they would just see what looks like branches yeah like squint and look at that image and it's easy to see it for us it's very difficult to see it for them and if they're in the jungle densely F foliated jungle and there's all these trees and [ __ ] they would just blend right the [ __ ] in and just lay and wait for something that's slower than them but I was thinking when you're were saying about the Bondo ape one of the things that we're doing now is we're using starlink to deploy camera traps in areas cuz you just take a starlink put it in the top of a tree have a guy on my team Stan he figured this out we take star link you put it up in the top of a tree so it has access someone's got to climb the tree you put a a solar panel you got have starlink and a solar panel and just like a little a little box to run to run everything and then you can deploy remote camera traps around and so we're getting now we haven't published this yet but we're getting live feed from parts of the Amazon where there's no people and with the star link you can send it back to you with WiFi so you don't have to get the cards dude we get updates on our phones oh my God that's incredible so if we did this in Bondo ape territory you probably find them yeah but you probably get [ __ ] up getting in there and putting that stuff up there that's the
problem it's humans me and Lex could do it the problem is the humans I mean it's it's essentially run by War Zone war zone it's a war zone run by Warlords and then if you go into the Congo you have the Cobalt mines you have all these things that are run by China there's all this slave labor operations that are going out there and it's just the whole area my friend Justin he runs this uh charity fight for the Forgotten he goes to the Congo and he builds Wells um and you know we've had him on a few times talk about his experiences over there but getting to these people to try to build Wells for them is [ __ ] just fraught with Peril you're dealing with just gunfights break out people get robbed people get pulled over and guns held to their head everything gets stolen from Blood Diamond yes just lawlessness run by Warlords different you you know different towns you go into a run by different people you have to have translators sometimes translators like this is not good this is not good you're like oh [ __ ] and you know you're just over there trying to help people and you're you're so if you're going to study these chimpanzees like this ain't you know this ain't like the [ __ ] Pacific Northwest just go into the woods like oh there's a deer no this is you're dealing with humans dangerous humans who are desperate and who have lived their whole life in these conditions when you go elk hunting how long do you spend like how how long is an elk hunt for you I give myself a week I always have a week but you know a lot of guys who have more time they'll do 10 day it depends on what kind of hunting you're doing I'm doing it in places where there's it's private access so it's not um if you have public land you're going to get a lot of hunters on that land especially if there's elk and it pushes the elk deeper and deeper into the forest and if you want to really find them a lot of these guys they'll put their like my friend Aaron Snider he'll put a backpack on he'll go two weeks and they'll go you know 26 30 miles in and that's where the elk are and so not only that you have to pack them out oh yeah so if you kill an elk 30 miles in and it's 30 mil as the crow flies yeah it's not 30 miles of terrain you're going up and down and up and down thousands of feet of elevation
and it takes them days to get the animal out and had yeah I've seen the videos of that guy you had this guy on he's he's awesome um Donnie Vincent yes I've seen he he does a very good job of documenting his elun and he's always got the back pack with the antlers on yep and uh you have to have a [ __ ] strong back man and trekking poles are a must and you know you're carrying something on your back that's almost what you weigh you got a person on your back and you're trying to go 30 miles and that's only one trip yeah you get you're done you drop it off you have to get it on ice or do something to pretending I'm depending rather on what the temperature is outside you have to preserve the meat you have to put it somewhere usually in a cooler you lock it down whatever you do you quart it out bone it out and then you're going back you're going 30 miles for load number two and if you're solo there's a lot of guys that's solo elk hunt you might have to go in four times to get all the meat out because you you physically can't carry it all 30 miles up and down the mountains without risk of like dying no how much do an elk I mean elk is gigantic hundreds of pounds of meat so uh I can tell you exactly because we shot these elk in Utah and then we brought them to a this U meat processing place that makes you sausages and all kinds of cool [ __ ] and they weigh it so they weigh your meat it was 400 lbs of meat of harvested meat that's not I mean there's bones no there's still bones in the quarters but the bones aren't that much weight let's let's just say let's say the bones are 100 lb let's just and I don't think they are but let's say they are yeah I don't think they are um because it's just a couple leg bones it's quartered so it's basically the femurs ATT it's you know like a rear High quarter and a front quarter let's say it's 100 lb it's still 300 lb of meat you got to get out on your own yeah you 300 lb on your back so you've got to do it in 100 PB trips probably if you're smart but some guys get crazy 100 PB pack is a lot D I know it is I I know a guy [ __ ] his back up cuz he tried to do 180 lbs and he went like 25 miles and his back's destroyed his back is so destroyed that one of his arms is Atri thing cuz his nerves are getting pinched cuz his [ __ ] discs
are all bulged out and [ __ ] up so you shoot an elk and then you you let's say you're with two guys I don't know and you you take as much as you can and you come out now in the meantime that carcass is sitting there you just you just try and get back as soon as you can like the meat doesn't go bed I'm cold out it's cold out when when I was hunting it was hailing okay you know so it's like some of the days it was in the 30s some of the days it was in the 40s but it's oh yeah yeah yeah it totally can but we didn't have to wait overnight we we packed it out that day I got very lucky that my friends came down and helped me so we were in the bottom of this Canyon it's very very steep this part that's like extremely difficult to get to which is why the elk go there so it was like you have to be very physically fit just to get there just to get like when I do card getting ready for elun I'm literally I get ready for it like I have to go into a fight or something I'm doing sprints on the air dime machine just to pump my legs up just to do I'm doing box jumps and box steps with weights I'm doing all these body weight squats it's just to have strong legs just cuz you have to deal with this this this terrain if you want to go where the elk are yeah cuz they know where the cats are and they know where they can hide and they know where they can get away from people and that's in the areas that are hard to get to which is the mountains and the more hard to get to and the elk go up it like it's nothing like they just [ __ ] run right up it like it's it's so wild to watch because you you you're struggling to go like a mile an hour and these [ __ ] are like running over the top of the hill like it's nothing but that's why they're there they're there because they know that it's tough to get there and people won't [ __ ] with them there and you know they they rarely get [ __ ] with there so that's how you have to get to so I got lucky that there was five guys in Camp with me and everyone took a load and is that I think cam haes has a photo of it on his Instagram of all of us packing it out it was in one of those multiple photo things but so that that helped a lot because if it was just me and my friend Colton who was my guide it would have probably taken
us [ __ ] most of the day yeah most of the day just to get it to the top of the hill where you can get a 4×4 to it so you're not worried about you don't have like camping gear also so you're okay that's good yeah but a lot of guys do and those guys the most effective Hunters that go into public land which is a much tough tougher thing to do right because I said because of pressure and also because if you want to go where the elk are the elk there's a lot of people there's pressure and the elk are going to get the [ __ ] out of Dodge and so you have to find out where they are it's a lot more groundwork and you're covering a lot more miles so these guys they put their camp on their back and they do the chop the toothbrush in half that whole deal bring St pens they know where the water is and they use things like onx Maps so they chart their P that's all of us nice so we're packing out that's all the elk Quarters on different people's backs and that head up there that's me carrying the head out with the antlers nice you know and it's um that we were real like I said real lucky that we had friends there to help us but if you do that by yourself if you're out there by yourself and you're 30 miles in you got to be so strong you got to be so strong whose shot was that oh I think it was Adam my friend Adam Green Tree he's awesome photographer Liv in Australia who's with us hunting too um but that's the kind of hunting that I do is the easiest kind of hunting as far as that goes as far as bow hunting in the wilderness goes yeah in that you can do it with a gun 100 times easier oh it's no but what I'm saying is like there's not going to be a lot of people there no one's going to [ __ ] with you and you know the elk are there so the the much more difficult path is like the public land hunter who has to go deep into the forest to get away from all the people like my friend Adam told me he went 23 miles into the forest once and he's like no one's going to be here and he found two t0 he's like m [ __ ] these Hunters they're they're all realizing like so there's like a category of Hunter that's like these athletes that love it yeah and but they're athletes like these guys are super physically fit so they can go 25 miles 30 miles in and they can be by themselves which is which is pretty
serious oh yeah man yeah you did a great job of explaining to that one guy about why wolves and elk and cuz you're saying like you know fundamentally like you know God and the fact that animals eat each other and you're because there's wolves elk are Mega athletes that can run up a mountain and I was just like I was listening to it yes yes yes yes yeah that's why they are the way they are you can't take that out of the equation like people want oh let's have all the elk live in harmony where they never have to worry about getting eaten that's not real just standing there yeah what you're saying is not real so if you're saying you don't want hunting you're saying you want these animals to die in a far more horrific way because we need population control some say we need it with people but that's the world economic Forum but what I think is with animals we at least we understand like we have Wildlife biologists that are incredible at this job and they understand what the holding populations are they're like this is how much food is there this is how many deer are there this is sustainable we can give out this amount of tags and so we we keep the populations but you have to also take into account wolves when wolves move into an area everything gets [ __ ] everything gets [ __ ] they they they kill off a giant percentage of the calves they kill off domestic animals they do Surplus kills sometimes like in Wyoming they found this crazy Surplus kill where these wolves had killed like a hundred cow elk and they were just laying there cuz if they can't they can't help themselves man if they can do it they're going to do it like if they're stuck in snow or if something's going on where they can't get away if they got them cornered they just go on a slaughterfest well it's like that's like when we were in school and they were like you know the Native Americans only took you know and then like you read Empire a summer Moon and you're like oh it's all lies oh it's all lies the Native Americans were unbelievably brutal to each other the commes were insane that book changed my whole view of everything they're going to do a movie they better they better do is it a movie or a series it's a movie right I hope that no I hope they do a movie but it's Taylor Sheridan yeah so yeah he'll
do it right I hope they do it right I was reading that book on an expedition and I was like when did we stop being Warriors never when no I'm talking about going right now not us but the mentality the mentality where they'd be like oh yeah quano was you know by this stream and they saw some other another tribe going that when they just went let's go get them yeah you don't need to do that you might die and they were just like let's go they went on raiding parties so they yeah that's what it was to them they'd go and find other native tribes and [ __ ] them up up and sometimes eat them yeah but I'm saying like that to me given the modern context like we're raised to be so sensitive and so considerate and and it's like these people you read about the I don't remember quana's mom's name but the the cynth Anne Parker the woman that was uh there's a photo of her in the lobby yeah yeah breastfeeding her baby yeah her and like she was she was kidnapped and I think she had a baby that they killed and then fast forward like 5 years 10 years later and she only speaks command she didn't have a baby when they caught her no she was only nine okay I thought there there was someone that they caught and she had a baby and they killed it on the Rock like but but then she became a comandi I think they killed her mother's other child yeah I think that's what when they killed her mother and they raped her mother and they they they were unbelievably brutal but they had a hard time um with their population because they're riding horses so much so they losing a lot of babies exactly so uh to mitigate that they would take young kids so they find young kids and they kidnap them and and bring them into the tribe so they kill the parents and Inc oh my God some of the stories are so and what the craziest thing is what our government did our government was like Hey you want a homestead go out there we'll give you a chunk of land what was that they did it to bait people the first scene of that book that the guy goes out there and he's like hello good friends like good day to you and they like cut his head off and peel his face off and it's like holy [ __ ] they kill everybody well you know you're on their land as far as they're concerned what the [ __ ] are you doing and what the government was doing was saying hey you
can go Homestead out there and it was baiting them and so then they made these people fight off the Comanche and if it wasn't for Jack Hayes and the Texas Rangers Texas Rangers Texas would have never been settled this was all the kamanche dude there's so many arrowheads here it's mad I would go nuts if I found an arrowhead in real life like if I was walking and I found an arrowead I would it would be the best day of my life found I found one once in Nevada there's you found it no I did not find that one that one was given is a real real Native American arrowead absolutely my friend Remy said that's probably one they use for fish cuz it's larger he said the ones they use for deer are smaller cuz you know they don't have a lot of force in their bows and they have to penetrate so they want a smaller diameter Arrowhead ouch wah do it [ __ ] you up it [ __ ] you up oh that's so cool and they used to have uh the ability to hold all their arrows in between their fingers so they could fire off arrows one after another this is why when they came up with the they're like this is not good enough one shot yeah and then you got to sit there and [ __ ] and they just filling you up the arrows so when Colt developed a revolver that changed the game cuz now all sudden these guys had cartridges I think the initial one was five shots so then these C and they could just pop the cartridge out put a new one in bang bang bang bang bang change the game yeah crazy thing is he was sitting over there in New Jersey I think developing that and he was like I'm tinkering and he sent it to I think they said he sent it over there and everyone's like what is this not only that the government didn't want it for soldiers like why do we need this we don't need this but the Texas Rangers used it figed out yeah and like we need that [ __ ] thing and so they were really the predecessor like to our our image of like the cowboy like that's the birth of the cowboy right like well I mean that whole image of like a dude with a hat on a horse like that was the to me that's like it looked like you were getting towards after the command sheet like the end of the command times into the I don't think Cowboys were around for long like that period that we think of like the Wild West I think it was like period of like it's kind of
funny right because it's such a genre in our history there's not a whole lot of Civil War cool movies no cuz nobody likes the but there's a lot of Western cool movies because it's romantic but the history of genocide in North America in terms of like what happened to the Native Americans has been so poorly documented in movies cuz nobody wants to watch that right so the movies are all just you know guys in saloons having shootouts with other bad Americans and every now and then some Native American would get into the picture you have to [ __ ] that Indian up cuz he was trying to steal your goats or whatever it be the cool tracker yeah yeah yeah like in a Butch Cassie and the Sundance Kid where they're running and like they're like oh these guys have a Native American tracker like what a weird genre of films that only looks at it from one perspective the perspective of the people that came over there and not even the real thing that happened to people is exactly what happened to people in the Amazon it's disease yeah that's the lost city of Z right right you know when they went there these F the first people were like this place is amazing they these complex cities it's Golds everywhere it's gorgeous and then so people made the track back and by the time they went there all those people were dead from dirty stinky European diseases you're like here you want some blankets yeah yeah well that blanket thing's not real no no the small box on the blanket no they think that I mean there might have been some instances where people knowingly gave people blankets with small pox but small pox just Spread spread like wild because everybody was immune to it from Europe like not immune but they had some sort of antibodies cuz smallpox was everywhere so when they came over here we brought a bunch of [ __ ] over here that just wreck those people yeah there's there's uh I did an expedition in right before Lex came I did an expedition in March and me and JJ went to the back we basically picked a part of the Amazon that we'd never been to and went let's go see was over there and it took us you picked a spot we picked a spot because it was around in a place that like on the map there's there's no there's no towns there's no nothing so
we said let's go there and it took us a week we had to take a commercial flight to a smaller flight to a smaller flight and then we had to take a boat for three days nine hours a day to get to the start of the Expedition now when you do that do you check to see if there's uncontacted tribes have been reported in those areas we what you do is you get to the last town and you go wait what's that way and they tell you and the scariest thing and this was one of the worst things I've ever seen in my life was that there were these tiny little people there and they were so there was like normal peruvians walking around like loggers gold miners they're you know they they their chainsaws there's people who had gasoline barges there's also prostitute boats that drive around like brothel that go up boat yeah and and you and you can pay them in Wood surprisingly enough board feed of Timber no joke um yes you get to the real like this is a place where like you feel like you went in a time machine and you get out there and there's people with modern machines but then off in the corner there were these little people and they were still holding on to their bows and arrows and you look at them and as soon as you look at them they hide and we were like who are they and they're like those are the Nawa and we were like what's going on with the Nawa and it turns out that the Nawa were shooting at the oil company guys that were trying to get into this deep again a part of the forest that never has been accessed before now it's starting people are reaching deeper into the Amazon and the problem is they'd be going up this River and there'd be arrows flying by them oh my God so how'd they solve that problem they funded the missionaries sent the missionaries out there to talk to the Nawa and convince them to come back to the nearest town so these are uncontacted tribes who are right there like we're standing there like kind of talking to them we're like Ola and how do the missionaries communicate with them the missionaries go like you know Bible up and they just hope and they just [ __ ] hope are these the Mormons like what groups I actually don't know Mormons love to do that I don't know what group it was I know I saw I saw the
missionary and he gave me a dirty evil look and walked away like this is dark [ __ ] it dark the missionary gave you an evil look these are not people that are okay and so these terrified think about this for a second these what are the missionaries up to they're working for the oil companies they're clearing out the forest they're clearing the way they're just doing it peacefully but are they actual missionaries or are they acting as missionaries whatever it is they're they're going with the missionary protocol getting these people to come in so what they did was through two translators from Spanish to some to Yin to Nawa to something we asked this guy and we had to stay away because we didn't want to get them sick and we had to say like what are you doing here and the guy was like I'm trying to go back to my house like where I live in not my house my jungle and he said these missionaries said if I came here that then we they'd help me in the food and you know and they were very confused because the missionaries had brought back a boatload of them and kind of tricked them because then when they got to the town they just showed up to capitalist society which even though it's super remote they're like you want food you got to buy it and these people have a bow and arrow but there's no more animals around cuz they' killed everything God and they go but I want to go home and the missionaries go well do you got gasoline now they're stuck oh my God and how far like three days of driving in a boat so like 70 Mi by river oh my God and so these poor people are coming into modern society A Thousand Years late with their wooden bow and arrows they're this big they're tiny little people and they're terrified and no one's helping them oh my God and it's the edge of the world and it's exactly when I was and I was reading this kamanche book on that expedition and I'm going this is the same thing it's that Manifest Destiny this is the end of their culture there's no one there's no one who's going to help them and they were just terrified sitting there at the edges of the streets and all these people are riding by on like motorcycles and r shws and there's boats going by and these people are trying to look for like a rat to shoot oh my God
it was terrifying oh my God it was terrify I felt so bad for them because they had no I you could see they had no idea and they don't even speak the language they don't even speak they're two degrees separated with language so like like you could speak Yin which is the local tribal language there but these people don't even speak that they speak their language so you'd have to go from Spanish to Y to Nawa oh my God and we were there and these people were going how does someone know Nawa that you talk to because one of the Y guys that I knew was had been living there so he' picked up a few naah words and so they were they were they were going so so these people how long these people been there for I didn't get that but they were they were they were literally living in a camp at the like where the trees were they stayed by the trees they wanted to be by the trees oh my God so there's people like you could buy a Coca-Cola there like this was like you could you know you could buy gasoline Coca-Cola whatever um way out there there's a boat that has some like gasoline cylinders you can fill up your boat and then this this is where this is the long it's like during the gold rush in Alaska it's like the last place before you go into the wild oh my God and these it was just it was really horrible to see and I think reading that the Empire of the summer moon was made it even worse because that's so dirty so they trick these people and they go into the town and they just abandon them yeah oh my God and these people how could they know that someone would do that to them they don't even know what a town is like right they don't even know what a town terrified and so they're still you know you see them they're Wasing by the river and they're trying to feed their babies but they're and no one gives a [ __ ] and they're treated like dirt too CU people because humans are humans and so right um no one wants to help them nobody could talk to them and then of course they're they're kind of frustrated right so like they're not exactly friendly either right um wow yeah crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy crazy have you seen that overhead fitt there's there's a view like a camera is on some the op or something and it's photographing these guys and they're all [ __ ] pointed POS
arrows this one how Wild is that you think that's wild I I can show you something that I can't show publicly but look at this really yeah I got something that no one's seen this is from last show everybody no you're not this is from this is from last week oh wow so what what Joe is looking at right now is a bunch of uncontacted tribes standing in the rain and uh again they don't speak the language of the people that are trying to interact with them so this is across a river are these those same people that were in that town the uh these are not the Nawa this is a different tribe oh my God man this is wild this is like imagining what it would be like to run into people hundreds of thousands of years ago are you on the single guy yet incredible man like I mean that guy looks like someone from the past yep he doesn't look like someone from now yeah and so what they did was they sent them a canoe full of bananas now that guy's standing there in the cold shaking his head like he might just not know the word for blanket this insane man this is incredible yeah and these are essentially some of the last people on earth like this yeah and so there's a huge debate about how we protect them because there's two camps there's some people that say you know they're Running Scared during the Industrial Revolution they pushed further out and they're they're they're too scared to come in and get help and then there's other people that go no they're Noble Savages and they live out there because they want to and they're the last free people but looking at these videos and seeing some of the stuff they're they're they're trying to carefully interact with some of the most remote tribes and so there's people that live seven days from the nearest town that speak a dialect of of native language in the Amazon and the tribes will come out and they'll you know they'll come out and they'll you saw they'll they'll come out and they'll just look they'll look at them they'll make gestures they'll do things but if you get too close to them they shoot you so you can't really you can't just go up to them and be like hey man what's up do you want some eggs right you can't do that right so what happens is this standoff on either side of the river
where you have people that live a remote lifestyle and are very very uh uh indigenous but that can still interact with us that know our you know the modern world have have seen a dollar before have seen a spoon the wheel blah wearing an Under Armour t-shirt yeah exactly and then these people show up and they got their dicks tied to their stomachs and they wearing no clothes and they're do they're making sounds sometimes you're using animal calls they tie their dicks down so they don't get scratched up uh they tie them up they so if you look at this dude here look I'll just pause it on when he's That's So Gangster like yeah man I got to tie it off otherwise I mean think about the stuff they're walking through you don't want to dragon on the ground but everything's got a thorn so like look look at that like he's he's got that tied up but yeah you don't want to get in you don't want to get in uh I guess you don't want like mosquitoes having access to the head that could be a problem that could be a problem aren't there like little fishies that swim up your dick hole too that's that's only if you're peeing in the water oh a much worse thing is when you take a [ __ ] in the jungle uhoh all the bugs are coming for you so you got to like you got to like be on on like dick Patrol while you're doing that because you're going to get bug bites on your ass but you got to make sure they don't go in your [ __ ] well sure right does that Happ that too yeah because as soon as you as soon as you crouch um dung beetles bigger than golf balls start flying through the air so as you trying to take a [ __ ] in the they know is when an animales you fart there are animals following you and so you're sitting there and you have to there's a bunch of things you got to do first you got to break your stick right so you have like some leaves the leaves is to keep your your ass bug free to get get the mosquitoes away and then the other thing you got to do is you got to be holding a tree cuz you're crouching right but then you use your itic to swat away the dung beetles cuz they come in and I One dung beetle hit my friend Mosen in the eyeball and like scratched his actual eyeball cuz it flew straight and they have you know rhinoceros horns coming out of their faces and their
exoskeletons brutal and they're heavy it's a big bug and they're airborne and they're moving quick and when they they want your [ __ ] cuz and they're going to take it and they're going to roll it into balls and they're going to push it through the jungle and they're going to lay their eggs in it oh God so yeah a [ __ ] in the jungle is like a hole you have to know how to do it if you don't know how to do it you could end up in a lot of trouble good Lord man so many things to think about and this is your everyday existence yeah yeah I just so when you went to that spot when you decided let's let's go there and it takes you three days and you get up there and you see these people did you wind up going deeper into the jungle and seeing how they actually live so could you can you or is it dangerous well both well I had I had some trackers with me who were extremely experienced in all of this they knew where we could and couldn't go and we went on a we it took us a week to get to the launch point and then we went on a six day Expedition from there where we're eating fish out of the river we're drinking out of the River camping on the beaches and then we did reach a point where they found signs of uncontacted tribes and that's when it gets dangerous and they went we're going back wow 100% Going Back I mean you have to you for for for everyone's there's no there's absolutely no way that you can continue going you're going to either get killed or be killed like it turns into I mean these guys turned around they loaded the shotguns and they were like we we turn around this moment they turned to the boat and the moment that you because they know you're there before you know they're there oh they know you're there yeah if you're coming in a boat too it's probably making a lot of noise yeah right oh yeah they he that thing from a long ways out two two two three weeks ago some loggers they found them they were the the the the chainsaw they were the loggers were chainsawing on the taam Manu River the loggers were from the look of the I'm kind of sure homes in the image I saw that the loggers were were cutting this log they were dead where they were standing so you think these guys are going cutting this log and the tribes are surrounding
them they had no idea wow and they just started throwing arrows from the shadows and so they found the bodies of two loggers see if you can find that Jamie this was this was within August uh Peru tribes killed there's a picture like a blurry picture of it of the loggers they don't show you anything it's just when it comes in I bet you find it I bet you can find I bet you my guys have it on WhatsApp dark web I bet your WhatsApp group is wild my WhatsApp group is ridiculous I got to show you some of the pictures I I got to start sending you some some crazy [ __ ] yeah let me in yeah man we see some pictures I promise I won't share them I got terrible pictures um cuz one time they killed these guys and their bodies were on the beach for a few days and they they blew up and became White so they look like the Michelin Man but then when the vultures got to them they started ripping out their eyeballs and disemboweling them so by the time people went to find them just skeletons it was like the SK was half out of the face it some of the most gruesome [ __ ] you've ever seen it was incredible it was incredible that's like Dude now now because of you know having a large social media following people just send me their craziest [ __ ] so I got to be careful what I open because people will send you a video and like one thing that I found very disturbing somebody sent me a video and it was like here click on this and I was like I don't know if I really want to and it was somebody like there was like a deer and he was feeding a deer and feeding a deer and then he takes a handgun and shoots it in the head and I was like that's [ __ ] hard I was like no so now I'm careful but somebody sent me a few weeks ago a video of which this one I'm probably going to share but I have to make sure they don't get me for it um an elephant trainer in India and he's working next to this elephant and he's just working next to the elephant doing his thing and this elephant just decides that today ain't his day and elepant just knocks him over and crushes his pelvis oh and then it's like that's not good enough so it pushes his foot on the guy's head and just flattens him and it's all on video oh my God it's wild actually Jamie on there is is there's one picture of it might even say yeah it says elephant dead and it's just a
picture of a guy his gun is broken in half and his head is flattened and that's in India that the elephant just flatten the guy it was just like enough is enough well I mean people torture elephants man oh yeah oh that's the guy oh boy yeah oh God yeah I'm not that oh yeah why' you make me look at that hey you want the good stuff or not I do I do Stu Give It All Me show me the arrows and the guys I'll show that the one next to that one is the elephant stepping on the guy if you if I'm here while I'm here I me it's important people should know not to not to go not to be people think elephants are cuddly they're not they're not to be messed with he just decided he's had enough this one's horrible cuz it's not quick it's not quick but like see this elephant is not you know he's probably around this elephant every day and it doesn't look like he's see what he's doing see what he's doing he's poking the El that shit's annoying yeah and the elephant's gone you know what that's enough look oh so at this point he's already broken at this point I mean his pelvis is gone even if he lived he'd be oh everything's just getting crushed [Music] and my God oh my God oh my God that's that he just had enough oh this is horrible man just stomping this guy he's already dead he's dead yeah he's dead now he's my God so flat that's so crazy he's picking them up in his mouth I mean this elephant is angry oh my God this guy's so dead that's it but I mean that's not even a big elephant and this other guy runs in to stop it are you out of your [ __ ] mind but that elephant's probably tired of wearing that [ __ ] stupid outfit too tired of getting poked out with a stick yep well that's and that's probably like a 5,000lb Asian elephant whereas the largest elephant largest African elephant was something around 20 4,000 lb oh my God yeah these are these are you know 18 wheelers they're huge yeah and what's [ __ ] up about that is like when you have uh tribes or towns or Villages of people that are growing things yeah and the elephants find it they're just like sorry it's ours now really tough because there's not enough jungle for the elephants and then you
turn down an entire field full of pineapples like no this is my pineapple now these are my pineapples yeah they don't have any understanding of ownership like these are pineapples that are on the ground no one's eating them of course I'm going to eat them and they can eat all the pineapples and so now everybody starves and no one can stop them people come out they throw rocks at them they you do they'll push your house over they don't care oh yeah they'll stomp you into the [ __ ] dirt they don't give a [ __ ] can I tell you can I tell you my favorite elephant story from so I started doing work with this uh this private Game Reserve in Africa called buffalo clof and it's these incredible people Warren and Wendy ripping and they I started going over there cuz they were using post 911 V veterans to protect their elephants and rhinos but their elephants they found out they call it the hallcroft herd they they found out that some Saudi Prince had elephants in this reserve and they weren't irrigating it so the elephants were dying so they went and they did a flight over and they saw dead elephants they saw dead animals and there was I think there was I think there was 10 or 11 elephants that were still alive and so they went to the South African Court they repossessed the elephant herd the owners of the reserve that I work with they went with a helicopter you Circle it around they got the elephants together they darted the whole family at once all 11 elephants got them on trucks like semi Lucid just kind of awake got them onto trucks transported them to Buffalo clo where they're going to be safe released them and they said that when these elephants woke up and came off the trucks and now they're in a private game reserve where they're going to be safe the rest of their lives he said they just exploded they went flying into the water started drinking playing bathing just was eating everything they rearranged the entire ecosystem and one of the females was pregnant and they didn't know that the female was pregnant wow and so these people are doing this in C this crazy work where they're protecting Black Rhinos which are critically endangered elephants white rhinos all this stuff and they're doing
it through hunting they're doing it where they have hunting they have a reserve that is fenced in because South Africa everything's fenced in but the elephants and the rhinos and you're keeping at this point we're keeping Black Rhinos on the brink of Extinction we're keeping them from going extinct but it's like you go there and these elephants are so happy because they're living in a place where they're free Wild they have food and they have as much food as they want they have like 50,000 Acres what a dream for an elephant to get res DED you're like oh [ __ ] you see a helicopter and you're like oh [ __ ] there's no water here everyone's dying and then all a sudden you're in this Bountiful place in this Bountiful place and it's that's pretty dope and it's funny too because talking about like the people the the you know the the the anti-hunting people it's like this is a place where very very different reality than the Amazon but where you know the the owner said to me he was like you know you can you can no one's going to pay you $30,000 to take a picture of a buffalo he's like people pay $30,000 to hunt a buffalo all the time and so they use sustainable hunting of like the zebras and the Buffalo and the Impalas and stuff like that to protect the entire ecosystem so you have leopards and elephants and Black Rhinos white rhinos and so you have tourism and hunting side by side in this incredible game reserve it's wild well unfortunately the only way where people really appreciate animals is to make them a commodity whether you make them a commodity for going on Safari whether you make them a commodity for hunting them because before that when people were just poaching and doing Market hunting they were on the brink of Extinction there's a lot of animals there a lot of the undulates that were on the brink of Extinction yeah you know there's um there's animals in Texas that you can hunt that are endangered in their native lands but that they've bred them in Texas yeah they bred so there's more tigers in Texas than there are in all the wild of the world just in people's yards yeah I just met somebody that had El on her property this giant very common huge [ __ ] animal with crazy horns they're cool looking but these these Wild game reserves in Africa
you know people go over there and they shoot these animals and then that meat gets donated to these tribes and this friend of mine who went over there to do that was saying that they went to this school which was like it's to call it a school it's just it's it's dirt floors you know no windows it's just this building where kids go and the food they get is all canned so they have canned foods and so they brought them hundreds of pounds of meat that they and they everybody went crazy the whole village comes they get baskets of it fresh meat and it does help it helps but really what's [ __ ] is that people live like that like really the the way to get people out of that situation when you have these insanely impoverished countries where you can take advantage of people have a mind for Cobalt is to try to elevate the standard of living for those people try to bring them power and give them irrigation and give them fresh water and and figure out a way to get them resources like yeah and I mean that's exactly what we're doing in the Amazon is is give the loggers a better [ __ ] job they don't want to be loggers nobody wants to be a gold miner nobody wants to be a poacher in Africa so lot people want to be gold miners not this kind of Gold Miner TR well that's not gold mining that's this is s mining for bits of gold like this is what they cut down the Amazon for right but gold mining in Alaska probably pretty fun imagine being part of the minor 49ers that came over here in 1849 that's different you find a nugget of gold yeah that's different that's a whole different thing have you seen the movie sissu It's like a John Wick movie from World War II it's about this crazy soldier who becomes a gold miner and he finds gold and uh he's you know retired done with the war and then he he's hiking out with his gold he's riding out with his gold and the Nazis yeah show up and he has to kill all the na this one of those movies though where you can kill everybody like John wi I can't man I bet you can I can't the only reason it's okay in the Matrix is because they're in the Matrix every other movie where one guy like the taken where he can like take down a room full of people Tak is a little ridiculous but this guy you kind of believe it yeah yeah it's pretty [ __ ] mean this guy like
covered in scars his whole body he's been in war his whole his whole life yeah I give it a chance this is this is the guy wait who's the actor that's not Brendan gleon is it no it's I don't know I don't know his name but it's not American Movie um look at the look at the the trailer with the knife through bro this [ __ ] movie rules yeah it rules it rules yeah that's the gentleman's name I've never heard of him but he's [ __ ] awesome no the the farthest I can go with violence was peaky blinders I oh my God what a show yo what a show yo what a show I have so much trouble not just talking like Alfie Solomon's my entire life I [ __ ] love that character of the pey blinders Al um that and then my newest thing is the 100 foot wave if you haven't watched this thing man no what's that my God Surfers Garrett McNamara you know the you know the wave in uh in Portugal the in Naz it's the dude and his wife who discovered it you know they tell the whole story where like you know he's looking for big waves they're all chasing big waves like Point Break [ __ ] like you know and then uh I think they get an email from someone she she gets an email from someone she's like we should go check out this wave and this dude goes first of all wave porn all day long look at w such a [ __ ] good show and I'm looking at this going I want to make I want to make a show one day about how we made our national park how the [ __ ] did they document this this dude is so insane to do that so insane to this is this is some of the best [ __ ] I've ever seen I riveted by this also I just can watch that wave again and again and again those guys who do that are different humans but this is it it's it's the cinematography it's the storytelling it's oh he goes down no yeah dude no oh the injuries the injuries are brutal I mean you're talking about 70 foot wave oh my God the weight of that water must be insane they literally went looking for the biggest wave and then just like that old tree in Ireland this is like become the the the thing for that town people come there for the wave now oh how many people die there every year I they they have a pretty good safety system they have like a jet ski rescue system where like if you if I if I tow you onto a wave I feel
like I know it now from watching the show if I tow you onto a wave and you catch this epic wave but then you get trucked and you're under 40 feet of foam and you're getting just bashed under there when that wave goes to the shore I have like 10 seconds to race in there with my jet ski and you got to grab on before the next wave comes and if I don't if you don't grab the ski I got to leave you you got to go under there God so as you're watching this show you're like do they die do they die are they okay holy [ __ ] and the whole time they're just showing you this beautiful wave porn constant waves and you're just like this is this is and these people wake up every day and have the same Affliction that I have they're just like how do I get my adrenaline they're like how do I get my adrenaline it's like I feel like I can relate do you ever meet those dudes they're so calm because they're they're always coming down from it they're like oh man there's no waves today just like when you meet when you meet like certain veterans they're just like well man look we're not getting shot at today so it's all good yeah it's fascinating how calm they are Kelly Slater yeah have you had him in year yeah I've had him he's awesome you've had lared Hamilton y Hamilton Dorian good friend of mine he does that [ __ ] too it's all these guys are they're they're all chill dudes like real serious people yeah yeah you know yeah lar lar shows up in there they have him like being like yeah that [ __ ] wave is crazy know with his huge neck he's just like dude you ever see his workout where he takes weights in the pool and walks on the bottom of the he's a [ __ ] Maniac yeah no he's he's he's always been just I mean you just look at him he's just built he's built like an action figure he's he's always been incredible no days off with that guy he's incredible and that world of just wanting to constantly get on the biggest waves is just such a Nutty proposition I I totally understand it though I think it's to do something that that's it's like say you know you can ride a dragon right yo right you know or you know elon's like I want to go to Mars like somebody tells you you look at the big a mountain of water right you can fly on that right I'm in right sign me up I mean I feel like
that's snowboarding and snowboarding is Chiller you're not like taking your life in your hands but like when you're going as fast as you can on a snowboard down a mountain like man I am [ __ ] surfing a mountain right now it is it is cool it's an apex of life I feel like that when I jump on an anaconda I'm like I am going to die when I'm on a snow I don't snowboard but I ski and when I ski I'm like don't get hurt don't get hurt don't get hurt don't get hurt didn't get hurt yeah yeah don't need a tree I've just been injured so many times in my that I see people falling down the last time I ski too I did wipe out pretty hard see skis I don't like that your legs I feel like I'm going to tie my legs into a into a into a knot yeah but I don't like being attached to that board nope cuz when you hit ice and you fall forward that that face smack coming right out I know a dude who got [ __ ] up on a snowboard that way his the snowboard went up and he landed head first and just got W out cold you know friends had to find him yeah I teach I teach somehow I've I've taught all my friends how a snowboard and I've never had anybody get hurt too bad it's always like you know that's crazy Bunny Hill to like you know whatever Shane my friend Shane Dorian that I was just talking about he destroyed his knee snowboarding yeah slammed into a tree tore it apart had to get reconstructive surgery and you know think about that guy's whole life is riding waves you Shane Dorian yeah yeah surf yeah awesome Surfer big wave server and so you know he had to get his knee reconstructed as soon as he got fixed right back to snowboard yeah I mean dude it's it's the thing you love it's the thing you love I mean you can't I don't get it no matter how many dung beetles fly up my ass I see just keep going back to the Jungle I understand but I don't get it I I do understand I just like my brain didn't go down that path but I get the path I could have gone down that path I see it I see the lure I see the lure of the big wave I see the lure of the Jungle I see it I think you do it in a lot of I think you you I'm you know I think you do a lot of things obsessively I think that when you get interested in something whether it's elk hunting or whether it's archery or whatever it is you go 100% And so you kind of get that same hit from it these
guys have just attached themselves to something that's insane I think it's in everything I think everything is like that there's things that human beings find that are complicated and challenging we gravitate towards those things because we get these rewards of accomplishment and I think these rewards of accomplishment are built into our our system of what it is to be a human being and what our purpose is on Earth and I think that there's you you can live your whole life and not find a thing that you are that you find challenging and rewarding and I think that's a tragedy because I think you're living a boring ass life and there's a lot of PE that's uh the great thorough quote most men live lives of Silent desperation and that's real that's most people don't have a thing that they do that excites them and it's difficult and it's challenging rewarding and that's not a good life it's a safe life right that's what people want they want a safe life people want to retire I want to go off in the sunset it's all [ __ ] do you want a life filled with challenges and rewards and you want to learn about yourself along the way you want to make mistakes because that's how you grow you want to do challenging things because that's how you find out how far you can push yourself you want to learn more because it elevates Your Capacity to understand things it's part of being a human it's it's a fascinating thing that's elective and that's the part about it that makes it interesting it's elective you don't have to do it you can get a very plain boring job that's not challenging or intriguing and just exist and you could exist on bad food and you exist on bad information and watch television all day and never challenge your mind and just dull yourself with alcohol and slowly rot until your body gives out I think a lot of people clip their their own Wings thinking that you know that's not me yeah that's true too I don't have access to that and then you don't realize that the difference between you and goggin or you know magnam is is just is just Obsession it's just go out and do it and a lot of times it's getting on a path and then like think about goggin like when he first started that what if he never did decide to get fit what if he stayed that 300 lb dude is just drinking
milkshakes all day he was big and fat and he couldn't even run a 100 yards that's that's who he was when he first started working out yeah and a a switch flipped and he got on a path and he stayed on that path he wasn't on that path his whole life and then all of a sudden he gets on that path and becomes the the biggest psycho of all time on that path but you have to either have uh a traumatic event that wakes you up or some sort of just boundless innate optimism that makes you think it's possible I don't know there's a you have to have this or that I think there's a whole bunch of different things that can happen to people I think near-death experiences I think loss of a loved one I think uh maybe a realization that sometimes people just wake up and say I can't do this anymore whatever they're doing that's boring or sucky or just soul sucking they just get to a point where they go I can't do this anymore and sometimes it's just like an alcoholic hits Rock Bottom it's like I'm not drinking anymore I'm [ __ ] done and people do my friend Dave did that he never went to rehab didn't do nothing he crashed his car he got uh he got arrested cuz he ran away from the scene the the accident he was drunk driving and he said I'm never drinking again never drank again to the day he died just just reach his limit one day just reached his limit didn't go to Alcoholics Anonymous they're like you have to go he's like no I don't I'm just not drinking anymore I'm done and he just had to his whole life he was a drunk he just had to get to this point where he's like this can't be me anymore yeah you just discust yourself there's a whole bunch of different ways to get to that sometimes you get to it through inspiration sometimes you get to it through desperation sometimes you get to it just through Intrigue like sometimes you know you walk in U Jiu-Jitsu gym and you've never even done a martial art in your whole life you take a lesson and you're like oh my God this is so fun and then five years later you're a [ __ ] Jiu-Jitsu Wizard and you're obsessed with it you train every day and you're on this new path as a human being because you found a thing that excited you and it could be big wave surfing it could be playing chess it could be there's a probably a thing out there
that resonates with you you just haven't had it and then there's the thing of getting outside of your comfort zone which people don't like to do that's where people struggle yeah because they have never had any experience with it and they don't understand the reward of doing it but the people that do do it all the time whether it's you know David gogins or Joo or anybody that you see that's like an Fitness influencer or people that are like super fit they just stay on the path that's the key the key is just just every [ __ ] day is a new challenge you don't want to do it every day if you're a guy who runs marathons there's no [ __ ] way you want to run every day but you know if you want to run a sub three hour marathon you got to run every [ __ ] day and you got to check your heart rate and you got to make sure you're eating correctly you got to do all those things it's [ __ ] hard to do but because it's hard to do people get obsessed you know maybe they run a 5k they're like I can't believe I did it wow I ran three miles and then the next thing you go you know what I'm going to run a half marathon and they prepare for a half marathon the next thing you know they're a [ __ ] Runner you know well that happens and that's the thing to to me what I see is so many people going you know especially like at this point people go like oh I can't believe you know you do this work in the jungle and they go I I always wanted to do this and I listen to when people say I always wanted to do it and I'm like go do it yeah go do it but some people can't right cuz some people I mean the the reality is some people have families and they have mortgages and they have loved ones they take care of there's not a chance in hell you could take a father or four and all a sudden this guy can become a jungle keeper it's just he's not going to leave Ohio and you know and quit his job in Columbus I mean not fulltime but I'm saying he could he could he could do something he could do something but the point is you you went on this path very early how how old were you when you first started this path 17 yeah see that's a good age 17 you don't know what the [ __ ] is going on in the world you're young you're all full of [ __ ] and you're [ __ ] crazy yeah [ __ ] these people [ __ ] these
people and then you have there's no rules confidence and intelligence and you decided to make this a path and then you find this incredibly rewarding part of the path which is saving the rainforest and so now you have a a a reason to live so your life becomes filled with meaning and that's the problem with a lot of people even that have jobs that are really good jobs they don't have meaning and that's why people fill their life up with [ __ ] they just buy things and do cocaine and [ __ ] you know get a luxury yacht you know they just get these things that are trying to fill some sense of purpose and meaning because they don't really enjoy what they do they it's they don't get just purely Satisfied by what they actually do they need all these other things to motivate them to keep doing it and then they get caught up in this numbers game where a guy only has a billion dollars feels like a loser when he's hanging out with Jeff Bezos I never understood that dude I never understood making it past a certain amount of income and not just going cool now I'm going to go enjoy now I'm going to take care of my friends now I'm going to take care of that one neighbor that I always knew needed help now I'm going to do this and just start doing good with that [ __ ] and there are people who do that I could tell you as a person who grew up poor one one of the things that happens is first initially you worry that you're not going to be able to maintain it that's initial fear that's that's super super common and guys start getting like really famine it's interesting when they start making more money yeah they start getting more freaked out about money I understand that that happens you see that with like a lot of Hollywood people they like change how they talk about things they they change their opinions they want they don't want to take any risks you know so you going to keep that gravy train roling but if you're doing something you enjoy doing then I think if you like especially if you're independent like podcasters right that's a good example start making money in podcasting you like oh this is great like I just can make money doing a thing that I love to do like I'm not going to stop doing it why would I stop doing it like and I also can keep making a lot of money I
think I'll just keep doing it especially since I enjoy it so I don't even think about like doing it for the money I think about like I would like to talk to he's an interesting dude he lives in the Amazon oh this is my job I get to talk to Paul why would I stop I mean I would do this for free but I'm not going to yeah but but you're also you you've transc you've you're in the you know you've you've you've you've changed the world of podcasting you've kind of like flown above that I'm saying but even for the a normal guy at a business all accident I know but I'm saying a normal person makes his first 5 million you know what I mean like people just don't I need you need more you need more because you got a mortgage you got this you got that what if your kids go to college also your moneyyy is not going to be worth as much because of inflation and what if you're if you invest in this [ __ ] hedge fund and this and that and this goes under or what if you're an idiot and you invest in nfts yeah or Bitcoin I know a dude just lost a [ __ ] load of money in cryptocoin like you get nutty you think it's free money and like no it's some kind of crazy thing that's going on we got fake money some weird created money and you just spent a lot of real money to buy some of this weird like [ __ ] imaginary money speak digital money do you want to buy a uh what were those things those fake pictures that people bought for a while nfts yeah those what was that about what was that about that what was that that was crazy bro and they sold for millions of dollars I know a dude who made he got rich he was an artist he got rich selling nfts yeah yeah in the beginning when everyone was like frothy with it it sold and then they dropped to nothing so I I always all these people coming up to me and they're like oh man you you you're trying to raise money for the rainforest they're like you need you need to get into the nft market so like I almost got got by the nft people yeah no I I've had multiple occasions where I've been asked to do things for nfts and I've been asked to do things with crypto and I was like I don't even know what it is so how the [ __ ] am I GNA do how am I going to endorse like I won't endorse something unless it's a product that I've I've used or makes sense or they can explain
to me oh this is how it works okay it makes sense but if you're doing something like an nft like Jamie tried to explain it to me like six or seven times yeah and I was like okay but you have it on your phone right so I can take a screenshot and I have it on my phone too no but you don't own it okay what does that mean I have this I have the same thing you have I have the exact same experience of having this million dooll yacht ape is that what it was called no it's the board ape what was the board ape what was the ape a [ __ ] cartoon picture of a monkey what would they called though it was was it yacht apes or board Apes was there was like one that a lot of people were buying and I was like what the [ __ ] are you paying money for this is crazy it's called the board apach Club oh that's what Bo AP yach CL board show show an image of what these [ __ ] things are and what was the most expensive one that went for by the way that's an nft okay thing yeah but that's that's a whole different yeah that's El musk that's okay did it just change color cuz we talked about it yeah that thing no that thing is that's like a digital piece of art like that's a completely different thing so you have to plug it in yeah but that thing was a gift from an artist what the [ __ ] is his name I forgot his name real quick be oh yeah but be's he puts up digital art every [ __ ] day so when you he has like a gallery and you go there and there's these giant digital art it's like those kind of nfts make sense this thing is like a [ __ ] cartoon and how much did they go for I mean at the to I so those numbers at the bottom right there are showing that would be I think it's ether so 111 ether would be the price that's 3,000 a coin right now so it' be 300 Grand but 300 Grand it said it was sold at 769 so that would have been million so sold at 769 so it's sold at close to a million do and what what is that that's getting into the screenshot thing is a tough thing cuz it's like you own a car but me having a picture of your car on my phone doesn't mean I own your car yeah but you don't understand what I just said earlier I said it's the exact same experience the experience of having it on your phone is very different than the experience of
you having a picture of my car same with any art then you that's just the argument for art then bad example bad example but mon Lisa I I can look at the Mona Lisa on my phone all day long I don't own it right but there's a big difference between owning the Mona Lisa on your phone so like the Mona Lisa only on a phone and you could just screenshot it and you would also have the exact same experience of the Mona Lisa the difference in the physical Mona Lisa is it's hundreds of years old it's paided by a master I'm not you don't just own it on your phone is the sort of the thought that but you do where do you own it then but the thing is you can replicate your phone's an access point to where you do own it that's like saying your bank account you know like is only on your phone but it's not I hear what you're saying but it's not the same because there's no real value in that nft it's fake like the experience of having it is no different it's not like I mean I get that you're saying that it's money and you're going to trade it as money I I agree with everything you're saying as someone that is invested in this stuff and I'm like I'm getting how much did you waste how much did you waste I didn't waste any cuz I I was getting stuff when it was you're going to hit a Nerf or whatever you know like I bought it at the right time I could have sold it and made a bunch of money but I did not I would have had to pay taxes on all that money too I don't know what people are doing or did and all that stuff it's all so cooky the thing I was going to bring up is I'm in the sports cards now those are why is that stuff worth money well because they're original physical things and then they're also like have serial numbers on them I guess if you had a fake one that's where you don't know if anyone's faking it but the thing is the real ones you're also getting like a little piece of History like this this Arrowhead if somebody made this Arrowhead and I didn't know because guys do make arrowheads there's a lot of modern-day people that make arrowheads but this one was found at a friend of mine's Ranch I have a bunch of these I have a few of them at home they're they're [ __ ] amazing cuz these are like little Windows into a a time in history that was not that long ago that
was right here and they're all over the place somebody made that somebody made that and it took a long ass time and then they had to make the rods for the arrows they had which is not that easy no no it's not like if we went out in the forest right now we said okay let's find a perfectly straight stick well not only that you have to use senu to make the string for your bow you have to know what Woods to use for the bow you have to know how to harden those woods and if you're making a recurve bow now it's even now you're talking even crazier that's that's even if you're just trying to make a simple long bow a simple Longbow and um and you have to be accurate with that thing and so that means you have you have to have enough arrows to practice with yeah um fire is the same thing when every time I try and show someone how to make fire it's like this is such a process it's such a just to get fire started yeah which is again it's so much fun being out in the jungle cuz whoever you are no matter how rich you are no matter how hot your [ __ ] is you're out the jungle you're [ __ ] with the dung beetles just like the you bring Fire Starter you know that stuff that so like they sell they have like bricks of this stuff um or cords of it you you cut off a little bit of a piece of it and then you have a flint and a piece of Steel and you knock the two of them together like this the steel those those rods the Ferro Rod exactly that's exactly what it is right and you um you light that stuff and it it's it's soaked in chemicals it's probably [ __ ] bre in but that will keep fire for a long time and you can use it to start fires yeah we don't we we I mean we we I mean usually we just have a lighter with us but it's there have been times that's the problem so the only real way especially in the rainy season the wood is soaked through like if this was a stick it's soaked through and through it's not going to burn you have to be very creative you have to like put some diesel fuel in a tuna can and make a fire over that and then let the let that burn for a little bit so it dries everything out so it dries everything out and then like even then it's a very like it's not a very enthusiastic fire it's like I guess I'll burn if you need me to you're trying to like cook a pot of beans and it's your last pot of beans
and it's all the food you got oh my God it's pain in the ass things don't want to burn but when there's rain we're happy so you never bring like a little buns and burner one those little Camp those little lightweight ones no no no only and and honestly that's a great idea for expeditions but what we do we bring these big propane tanks and just throw it on the boat and if you can't bring that then nothing but like what we have at the camping stores here where they have like the little ones that go in your backpack they just don't sell those in the where we go right you know so like and you can't bring that on a plane br oh you can't no you can't bring a propane tank on a on a plane whatever those are you can't like like if you go to REI and buy a whatever those little cam stoves have in them you can't bring that on the plane so is there a place where you could receive packages we can get it shipped to you yeah we could probably get it shipped to Lima and then have it shipped down or whatever else but I mean right now we have a system that works but I again to me this may be me being like a you know like a ly but it's like when we're out on Expeditions like to me I'm I want everyone's [ __ ] off like people like oh I have this new device I can get Network anywhere I'm like turn it off that makes sense off this the thing about this is it helps you boil water jet boils what they call them so it's this little thing it's got a little tank and it lasts for days you just cook it up when you want to cook food you know you turn it on you have a little thing with you and freeze-dried food and [ __ ] that's what a lot of these guys pack when they go 30 miles deep into the woods yeah you can make a coffee if you want to yeah I I brought a guy who used to work at National Geographic on an expedition with me and it was a couple local guys me and my friend MOS and him and we went up this River and in hindsight he was like he actually thought we were messing with him he was like this can't be what you guys do he was like you just have a [ __ ] boat and Tents he was like it was Ian the bugs the sand the brutal the sun beating he goes why don't you have a [ __ ] roof do you become accustom to the bug bites yeah so is it just you just deal with it or does your body develop any
kind of an antibody to it or anything to the to the Sandfly bites like me and JJ get bitten and we bleed but we don't get the like the the the elevated skin like that so your body doesn't react to it anymore dude wasp bites I don't even react to Bullet Antti bites anymore dude I'm on number 11 what are you talking about I'm talking about iy just got bit by a bullet in as I was trying to go to bed I got up to go to bed I was like doing something with people I stood up and I know the feeling by now you're just like oh there it is again bit me right in the foot I just went to bed no way yeah they're stopping it's it's starting to lose its effic efficacy on me wow know that that was the case cuz I saw those rights of Passage thing that they do they take these guys the glove and they fill their hand up with bullet ants and they have the bullet ants stuck in the glove so they can't go anywhere so they just keep [ __ ] you up and it's supposed to be some thing that they do that is like a religious experience it's it's a it's a right of it's a right of passage so they'll they'll they'll pair it's kind of like a bonding thing they'll like find a video of that it's a it's a [ __ ] mad right of passage thing they'll take like a young man do it to him and then they'll have a girl take care of him afterwards and it's and it's like sort of try think trying to encourage them to like pair up oh um I know that steo did it I saw a video course did that [ __ ] every come I talk to him I'm like please stop please stop don't let people punch you please stop don't let this happen just take care of yourself you've done so much yeah yeah he's uh he's so banged up he's such a wild man do you ever seen the one when he was in uh Africa and he climbed up the trees and a lion climbed up the trees with him and pulled his hat off those are real lions lion I always wanted to ask about that cuz he's in a hammock and they have meat hanging from the hammock and there's lions like biting their asses yeah I don't understand him he looks good they played keep away with um hyenas so he's got it on he's freaking out yeah let me hear some volume pass out and the next day Chris's hands looked like Mick mouse what a [ __ ] psycho wild boys was a show you you can get stung by
those things now and I thought it was like my friend Steve got it he said it was like 12 hours of excruciating pain and he said he could barely walk yeah my first one was like that my first one was like that I was like out like your your your lymph nodes swell up you have horrible pain in your body you have a headache one bite one bite to the arm and now did you do it on purpose yeah oh well cuz the guys were like yo what up they're like you think you're tough big guy you down there I'm big up here I'm not big down there they're like oh you big guy huh does anybody work out you're the only guy who works out in the jungle uh you're out there doing chinups like what the [ __ ] is this guy they think I'm weird cuz I'm in the sun with my shirt off doing push-ups sit-ups pull-ups doing my my jungle workout and they're like walking by like what's wrong with Gringo loo why does he do this crazy [ __ ] yeah but then I go climb the giant trees and I'm like all right listen you know yeah you want to come and they're like no but they so they said you think you're tough uh so they took a bullet ant and and you play bullet an roulette you just you know so we each we take a bullet ant and I put it on my arm so it starts walking around and then you take your arm and we just Mash our forearms together and we go like this oh boy whoever it stings oh boy it's super fun it's a great drinking game super fun dude you mix that with doing shots awesome sounds really fun so much fun so you were for how long about a day and a half I took it really bad that's not fun I took it really bad you and I have a different understanding of fun the excitement of wondering who it's going to hit is fun I would rather not know dude I don't want to know what that feels like see that's my that that's different if it when I see the wet paint sign I go really I don't oh I go let's paint somebody painted it I don't respect that guy's work get out of here never I have to and with the dumbest things too people could be like so how many times did you do it voluntarily you do okay never more than once and every other time after that was just every other time than that you're just doing your life and there's pain four plus on the schmit siding pain index sting pain index the highest possible rating and you could just go to sleep after that
causes waves of pain for up to 12 hours after a single sting being studied for use as in biological insecticides of course it is of course it is paralyzes insects and causes pain in humans affects voltage gated sodium channels and block synaptic transmission in the central nervous system yo how many people die from bullet ANS I don't know but it does feel like something that at the level where you have it as a glove could kill you yeah like I I feel like given given the intensity that my system felt from one do you think that those people have already been stung a couple of times by those kids have grown up being stung so JJ JJ said he didn't have shoes until he was 13 so he grew up walking through the jungle he said he had his first bullet in ant sting when he was like 2 years old oh oh my God which like as a 2-year-old that's like being stung in the face by like a wasp the size of this water pitchure like imagine what that feels like if you're a baby a soft mushy baby and that thatt just [ __ ] you and so so they are experiencing it akin to what you experience now so when they're putting the glove on even though it's horrific and it's getting their whole hand and there's a bunch of those bullet ants in there they're probably much more customed I think that they have because they've grown up in the jungle they're much much more custom but I mean you're watching steo do it like I would think twice before putting my hand in that glove and not having a hospital nearby cuz I would think that you could go that could be overwhelming to your system they're very intense it's not a joke like I could get bitten by a bullet an right now and go all right well we're going to do the rest of our day because I feel like it but what you really want to do is just stop living cuz it just hurs everywhere even Hur everywhere so is it that you just accept the pain and you understand what it is you don't freak out or is it your pain threshold is it has it lowered because you've done it a bunch of times so your body's immune to it yes it has to lower it has to lower to the point that you can make the decision to like grit and Barett you know cuz cuz at first it's so bad that you walk around going wow wow wow and you're like wait
okay if I walk I'm in pain if I lay down I'm in more pain if I there's nothing you can do there's nothing you do you're just [ __ ] and so now fever and now I'm like man God damn it and I'm like well let's go do what we're going to do anyway I'm bad mood a wasp sting to a normal person yeah so now a wasp sting to me like I'll just catch a wasp now cuz like I was like you know like I come home and I see people like running from a yellow jacket and I'm like I'll just like grab it with my hand let it stick we were talking about this yesterday I genuinely think that people must feel pain differently and makes sense that some people just I I don't even think it's a tolerance thing I think it feels different I think that's sort of like the same thing with spicy food and there's a bunch of different things like that cold water there's things that people can tolerate and it seems like they're not just being tougher like it's not as hard for them like there's a you know maybe their ancestry evolved around being in pain all the time they got ACC make dude my my friend NL my childhood best friend we he he always calls me and goes dude you want to go surfing in mon talk and I go bro it's February it's [ __ ] February there's going to be ice on the the water and he's like yeah but the swell is awesome we'll wear wet suits so one time I tried it with him I will never do it again so are your hands in a wet suit or no no you have booties boots on but it's so [ __ ] every time a Wave Wash is over you it goes flying down your back Bo of course you're in ice cold water and yes the waves are incredible I don't care and you can't breathe right I mean it's so it's it's like I mean you do the cold plunge all the time and it's like yeah but I'm not moving and you're not out there for 4 hours you're not sitting on your board balance my cold ass knees but but so to me I look at nol and I go [ __ ] either he's way tougher than I am or he just is predisposed to not really giving a [ __ ] about cold water I hate cold water it could be that but or is it could be you get acclimated you get accustomed because we were talking about people we adjust to our environments we adjust to all kinds of different things you probably get accustomed to that experience and the rush of riding those waves yeah is and it's also there's a
thing about being a badass putting that wet suit on ocean that's where it gets me where it goes now I'm going to make myself do it that that that's where I get myself on it where it's like there is a certain satisfaction to going yeah take it take another Frozen wave if you're warm in your house and you looking outside and it's [ __ ] snowing and it's ice on the ground and you're looking at your wet suit and you're warm you're warm ah you're drinking soup you know you got some chicken noodle soup oh you're just so warm and you're watching television why would I go to the ocean good are you guys really going to go let's not go sure want come on [ __ ] we're going to go and the guy comes back with [ __ ] icicles in his beard and [ __ ] yeah there's a that and we admire those people well you you [ __ ] Savage you you said you wake up cold and go on your cold plunge that's not that hard that's terrible it's not that hard to wake up cold and not do any push-ups or something you told me you worked up a sweat first no I would say okay fine I do it sometimes after the sauna but then I always finish on the cold yeah but that feels good I always if I do that I never go cold sauna heat up and then go outside I go sauna cold sauna always end on cold so you always freeze your dick off at the end oh God I just but it's not that hard it's three minutes if you count slowly to 10 two times it's three minutes that's what I found so I just count slowly to 10 for three minutes and that's it I respectfully disagree with you I think this is one of those things where you you have found that that this is a way for you to sort of Flex for yourself and you've gotten used to it and you've come up with the system I would never I just there's certain things I just don't want to do yeah it sucks D I don't want to do it every day every day I don't want to do it but I tell myself shut the [ __ ] up [ __ ] pick up the lid put it down climb in you know you're climbing in stop set your oh I do want to say Garmin uh your new uh Phoenix 8 watch shuts off when you get in the cold plunge no yeah so this is a I have a phoenix 8 and I have a phoenix 7 they're awesome I love these things but the Phoenix 7 I have to wear when I do the cold plunge so if I work out with that one but this one has a better heart sensor yeah this one this one's just
better overall the eight but it sucks that if you go in cold water it doesn't even make any sense like how did you go backwards the old one you go into cold water and nothing happens underwater operating temperature range 0 to 40 yeah that's not true so Google this Phoenix 8 shutting off cold plunge Google that um trust me I looked it up online it's not just [Music] me yeah see watch turns off and reboots in cold water yeah that's what everybody notices so if I'm in the water for 5 seconds it shuts off damn yeah so they're apparently going to fix that they think it's a I hope it's a software issue they better fix it now but the crazy thing is they have a dive feature on this watch so uh if you're swimming and you're Di and you're in cold water it's going to shut off that could if you're down there you're like how much time do I got on this tank you can't have your watch turned offly right and if you get down to depths and it's below 40° it's probably going to shut off I don't even know what temperature it shuts off but people have done it in cold water so they've taken a glass of cold water and dropped the watch in cold water and it shuts off not good Garmin it's just not good that you just release this thing and didn't know check it how did you not check for cold plunges when you you got a dive function on the watch interesting yeah so apparently they think they could fix it with software which I hope is true well that would be good but the seven works that's what doesn't make any sense I've never had a problem with the seven I put the seven on in the sauna I put it on the cold never have a problem with it yeah well I'm like that watch cold Kryptonite the message boards say it's a software issue and you can fix it by putting it in beta if you know how to do that right but beta disables the dive fun function W yeah so the beta that they put out it disables the dive function I think there there's some talk of another workaround like maybe shutting off the uh touch screen that maybe that would help but the problem is it's like you have a watch that everybody's used to Coal plunging in they're used to jumping in the ocean in
they're used to doing stuff in and then the new one doesn't let you do it that's you can't release that you got to fix that before you didn't have to sell it yesterday you could I mean it just came out like I think September I took I ordered one it took a while to get there I was all excited and then first cold plch I'm like what in the [ __ ] that's a wolf tooth that's a wolf tooth yeah nice I forget who gave me that one yeah I got a lot of [ __ ] here man from cool stuff that people have given me but uh you know it's the the having things like that like a a watch that does GPS like this watch has maps on it shows your elevation you can get a lot of information off of these things and you could Track Way points on them and I always use a thing called onx hunt as well and onx Hunt is a software app you download maps for the specific regions and you can hit attrac function no it doesn't I bet it can I don't know how to do it I don't do it's on your phone I just do it on my phone I use this mostly for elevation you can use GPS on it but it will drain your battery a lot quicker because if you don't use the G if I don't use the uh GPS function this thing will go like 30 plus days with without charging without charging yeah and monitoring your heart rate doing all kinds of different [ __ ] it it's a flashlight it's built in a flashlight yeah look at that flashlight built in it's nuts so if you're out in the woods and you don't have a flashlight it's LED flashlight it lasts for [ __ ] ever because it's LED because it doesn't draw a lot of power these [ __ ] things are incredible but this new one yeah you guys [ __ ] up but having those things like do you bring an in reach or anything um well I mean cuz we also do tourism we bring you know we bring out a SAT phone but now dude now starlink right now at my at our base at The Treehouse and at our research station we have two different starlinks so we have better internet there than I have in the Hudson Valley in New York dude I can Dude isn't that incredible it is it is it's absolutely incredible like it really is amazing it's amazing how small it is too you can also take it and put it on a boat if you need to so like so I I finally like Lex broke me down on this I finally started a YouTube channel and
it's like I'm going to start bringing people on all kinds of [ __ ] cuz now I can just stream it from there right [ __ ] TV creu you can have it I'm going to take people on night the roof of your car as you're driving around in the jungle yeah well hopefully there's no roads but I want to take people like I could literally put on your backpack I could put it on my backpack I could you probably could literally have it flat on the top of your pack and walk around at least catch some signal catch some signal or you know for the boat like if we go look we're going to be going 4 hours up River and we know that there's an invasion and we're going with the police to go check out these loggers there's going to be some [ __ ] action going down throw the starlink on the boat I could live stream that and take people with me whoa yeah or now um so uh we a few weeks ago I sent you that picture that huge anaconda the one with the blue eyes yeah and uh we've been working slowly on Breaking the the the 20 foot Mark that one was 19 Something and so we've been working more and more on the Anaconda project and my guys and you know like when you when you you know you have your people with elk hunting where they go dude I I saw an elk that like inert people you trust my guys they went we found one that's over 7 m and they haven't caught it yet you're talking over 21 feet so we've broken 19 right and so we're going to be going out for that and so that's the type of thing where I'm going imagine bringing people cuz after our first show the comments were hysterical where people going this guy's fullish [ __ ] like absolutely hysterical people just anacondas about everything we talked about oh that's funny like the internet was just like great show of it I know I know but all they have to do is go to your page they were like oh this guy really is there some of them were really funny I laugh at a lot of the comments they're like oh I'll take that never [ __ ] happened for 300 Alex like you know it's like okay great well people always want to say that people always want to say that but but but now it's like now we can [ __ ] live stream this [ __ ] and we go jump on a snake with a head this big so we're putting together an expedition to do this now and it's it's a it's it's going
to be fun in these areas that you do that you go to have they ever done any of those liar explorations of it where they fly drones over to try to map out if there was some ancient structures in these areas yeah so we talk to the local people and they find the uh the Terra pra Earth and the and the pottery in the areas that it is so usually the places that it is and we kind of talked about this that gr like you know the Graham Graham Hancock I always want to say Graham Watkins um Graham Hancock um I think that on the Amazon proper I think there was a lot of civilizations out in the tributaries where I am it's very rare to come across those things those ancient civilizations so those people the uncontacted tribes out in the tributaries they're probably living the way they've been living for thousands and thousands and thousands of years so my book publisher it was so funny um um um I got I got kind of like I was writing something and I said something about these Stone Age Warriors what this guy must have seen as these Stone Age Warriors came and murdered him with arrows and they were like how dare you call them Stone Age Warriors and I went what they don't even have Stones so first of all right they're really stick age did I yeah did I just get woked for so dumb is Stone Age a bad thing to say but I mean it's not very often that you come into that problem because we wouldn't call most normal people Stone AG people the Native Americans were essentially Stone AG well he uses it in Empire of the summer Moon he goes well these Stone AG Warriors or D and I was like well these are pretty much Stone AG people and so I I wrote it and I basically got told like hey don't say that God how weird is that yeah I also lost a book deal because I retweeted that Elon Musk liked our Treehouse but he lost a book deal yeah I had an amazing meeting with like all the people this lady was like you know like the devil wees Prada like Merill stre like she was like the big head honcho one of the major Publishers and they were like dude your next book is going to kill she had like 20 other people on this Zoom call we had like an hourong thing we talked about you she was like um and how close are you with Joe Rogan and I was like I was like we're Bros um and then and then they were like well you know
either way it was going really good and I'm thinking liberals I was thinking I was going to get a life-changing amount of money I was thinking I was going to get like a million dollar book deal and that got confirmed through a bunch of avenues that it was a big one and then and and and they were very impressed with Lex they love Lex and she was like you have have Lex Freedman in the Amazon I said he's right over there I was like on the phone on starlink talking to this publisher and she's like so your next book is going to tell the whole star yeah and then that week Elon tweeted cool treeh housee now when the greatest inventor of your generation tweets some anything that you did you share it so I shared it the publisher got back and went not only are we not even we're just not making an offer anymore wow they don't like the type of people that I associate with just you retweeting that you it wasn't me no it was him no they vetted you they were like how close are you with him and I was like listen to me he's the [ __ ] nicest guy in the world I was like you can't I was like and they were like would he write a forward for your book and I was like I don't I was like I think like I need like a more like a Harrison Ford to do that like I don't know like Joe could do it but I was like I like I think we need like a just want like famous they just that that's all they were doing that's all they were doing people famous people to say you're awesome but but but as soon as elon's name came into the M I didn't know this I was unaware of this that Elon has people that hate him hate him I didn't know that well it's a lot of propaganda that really works and a lot of it is what happened when he took over Twitter so you have to look at it from like what what really happened was there real outrage when he took over Twitter yes yes it was real outrage I firmly believe there's manufactured outrage that's done in a very directed Manner and I think he was most certainly the victim of that as well and then there was a narrative that continued to get pushed like hate speech on X hate speech he's promoting it yes that anti-Semitism that racism that all this stuff is up well if you allow people to just speak freely you're going to have
that you're going to have that but you can always like not look at that yeah but you're also going to have many more good things too and the point was what he really exposed was that the FBI was involved in suppressing the hunter Biden laptop story and that these journalists who studied the Twitter files Matt taibe and Michael shellenberger and Barry Weiss and all these different people that went over these documents found that hey there's something very inappropriate happening where the government is getting these social media companies to take down true stories and to sign off and say that it's Russian disinformation and Elon confirmed this and Elon confirmed this so that's when he became very dangerous to them and so then The Narrative of Elon being a white supremacist and Elon being you know but then the thing that happens also is he will tweet wacky [ __ ] and then he will retweet wacky [ __ ] that turns out to not be true and all that they attack and it builds up and you get a distorted perception of his value in our culture in our society and he's one of the greatest inventors the world's ever known one of the greatest Engineers we have alive and he's involved in multiple different Industries and he's changing those multiple Industries in in incredible ways what they've done with space travel with SpaceX where these [ __ ] Rockets can land now what they've done with these starlink things that we were talking about the he if it wasn't for Tesla in electric cars do you really think there'd be as many electric cars as there are today wouldn't even be close you wouldn't have Governor Nome saying that California has to be all electric by 2035 cuz no one would be making electric [ __ ] cars like that there's a documentary from early 2000s it's called who killed the electric car yeah yeah yeah I saw that in college fascinating you want some coffee fascinating documentary and if it wasn't for Elon and making Teslas awesome you wouldn't have all these [ __ ] electric car companies and he makes everything open source okay and that's all fine but my problem is people that take the guy who's trying to save the butterflies and the monkeys yeah and kick me out for that for not I never even met the guy dude it's akin to being a Nazi so I have to pretend to not like him right to
align with their world view it's what I was talking about with Hollywood when I was talking about how people start making money and they start being very careful about what they say because they're worried about it's going to go away you also realize there are consequences like what you experienced so those are real fin so that's it and and so minor right so that is how you get people to stay in line that's how you get people to only think the way they think and then you start reinforcing it in yourself and you start wearing pearls and doing all kinds of wacky [ __ ] because you want them to like you you want them to think they're one you're one of them no that that was really creepy cuz you know I mean I live in the jungle but like I hear about all this stuff but I don't know like who the players are and what the what the temperature is in the room and thought it was cool that the guy said you have a cool Treehouse he like one of the coolest guys ever if this guy goes to [ __ ] Mars a a historically relevant inventor said something I did was cool great you share it you know and it cost you a million bucks yeah this is the world we're living in that that's why and it's primar primarily the left that's that wacky like if Bernie Sanders had said cool Treehouse and you retweet that everybody would have loved you you would have been fine and the right wouldn't have attacked you no they wouldn't have cared they wouldn't have been upset you wouldn't have lost businesses like no one from the right would have like not given you a book deal because you uh Bernie said nice treehouse and you're like thanks cool retweeted no one would care it could have been Obama it could have been anything I mean that by the way that was so super cool I loved it you you uh my friend sent me my friend Connor sent me a clip where you were telling one of your guests about me and so I shared it but it was like the first time that I shared a clip where it was like really just you talking on my Instagram and the comments were berserk I didn't realize you were such a polarizing person Joe it's the same thing it's the same thing it's a dist Ed perception of Who You Are by people that have very lowlevel information they have surface information and they've decided that
you're an alt-right this or there's been many many articles written about me being like some Fringe right-wing person which I'm not at all but if they say it enough times the people that have low information they believe it well but but this is where this is where I'm interested in when you say like okay and this is like the the [ __ ] that's going on in Israel the hysteria that everyone's feeling you're either a good guy or a bad guy elon's good if you like you're bad I just want to see everybody start to calm down I just want to see the adults be running the room again I think that sounds cute no no no no no no no pre pre N1 I'm sorry when I was a kid and let's just like go back to like I was in eighth grade in 911 somehow back then it seemed like I know there's still corruption and there's a lot of [ __ ] going around on but somehow things have gotten more off the rails with this this stuff where it's like you know remember the the the the Obama Romney debate where they're like yo man what's up like we disagree but we agree like we're both gentlemen here like come on come on yeah and so like I think I think that what I've seen in the last few months or in the last year was that is that a lot of people again I'm really speaking from my perspective here and I'm just kind of hoping that this is the case for the rest of the world that people are chilling the [ __ ] out and some people are waking up and realizing how stupid it is and how most of the problems that we have are [ __ ] yeah in terms of problems we have with with each other but then the next thing is is then then we can actually start focusing on if we're not hysterical and we're not doing all this crazy [ __ ] then we can actually start focusing on okay well look how do we fix things in the Congo how do we fix things in Africa how do we in in the Amazon like how do we pragmatically fix things so that the American food system is better and everyone benefits and stop [ __ ] arguing over it yeah and realize that this is not a right-wing or a leftwing issue this human human health issue a very unhealthy way to argue and also like real charitable organizations like real ones like what you're doing like it's actually helping things it's actually designed to help it's not designed as some sort of a front to make to cover
money and as a tax shelter it's and you know there's a lot of philanthropy that that's good yeah a lot of it a lot of it but then there's also a lot of philanthropy that's not really philanthropy it's like posturing it's money sure it's you're making money with this philanthropy you've got economic well that's the thing so now that I have an NGO we went and looked up all the other Nos and like a lot of the NOS their CEOs are making $500,000 a year like like big paychecks so and that's where I do think it's um you know gets weird it gets really weird but I think also that what I told the first story I told you about like when how we we saved the Ancient Forest it's like I think what we've done that's very exciting that we're feeling this swell we're kind of riding this wave right now is because the the the guy with four kids or you know we classically I had this mom in Ohio message me and she was like I have two kids I show them your Instagram I love what we do we give you $5 a month and it's like $5 a month from enough people we save the whole [ __ ] Amazon not to mention that then people like Dax to Silva from light speed reach out and he's like look man I won capitalism I'm G to fund your whole Ranger team and it's like people are reaching out that's amazing and so we and so I'm surrounded by all these incredible people that that want to do good I got approached by those dudes at be uh Vivo barefoot shout out to Vivo Barefoot they gra I use their stuff all the time so they they're my first sponsor they they reached out to me they great [ __ ] the the well I also I hate hiking boots right those Barefoot hiking boots are legit the ones they make they're legit I like theirs I hate hiking boots that are constrictive so they reached out and this is the cool thing they went you know are you interested it what but but it was like only if you check out they were like are you good are you sustainable are you this and I was like I run a [ __ ] rainforest organization and they were like because and these guys care so much about their shoe and about how people wear it and about where it's used and the materials and I just read um Ivon chard's book uh let my people go surfing with the guy who started Patagonia dude he I mean he just
worships rivers and mountains and and and they started making this stuff I just I just think I just think we're on this cusp of that we still can save a lot of the endangered species I mean I'm I'm living Miracles every day I'm like I'm like watching us draw in this map of protecting the Amazon and when you're onethird you're like we're going to do it and so it's like I just I just think that that as people I I got really scared when I got woked that Elon Mustang was so weird I was like we all got to just take down I got woked I got wok right in the face and it's such an innocuous thing you did it's so funny but that's like wrong think wrong speak you're not allowed to like this guy well that's the thing who am I allowed to like that's it doesn't none of it makes any sense it doesn't make any sense so I got to stay in the jungle man are just so polarized and it's also you of to realize that the pressure that they're under is not from that many people it's like the commenters on Instagram unfortunately the reality is most people comment on things all the time or morons and they're not happy they're unhappy morons so it's a bad sample group right so you're getting a lot of people that are making comments but people if they're commenting they com I would like to know like what percentage of comments and just overall if the internet if anybody's ever done this analysis are positive versus negative I would have to say it's probably at least 5050 yeah I would say it's 50/50 again I think I'm jaded though because when I look at like I look at if I look at the YouTube comments on Al leex podcast all the comments are like thank you Lex for having this important conversation with this amazing fans Le Lex fans great yeah um every I mean every I don't know a lot of the support that I get online I very people tell me I look like the lead singer of System of a Down other than that nothing right middle easn features hey man Serge tank is a [ __ ] hero he's a dope dud I love that guy awes I listen to his music every day if you're um yeah if you're getting compared that's a good guy to get compared to but this this polarization is just like there's a bunch of people that feed into it and they attack people because they know that the people that are on their side are like yeah you're one of the
good guys and so there's that weird [ __ ] where you got a lot of really weak people and mentally ill people that like attacking people and that's a lot of what it is it's a lot a lot of people that lack nuance and understanding but don't you think it's coming back don't you think we hit a peak and now it's starting to come back yeah because those people are kind of being exposed for what they really are they're very damaged human beings like the people that attack people all the time they're all [ __ ] up all of them 100% cuz why would you you only have so much energy in your day why why are you spending it getting mad at some guy because he retweeted the greatest Genius of Our Generation said nice treehouse that's [ __ ] ridiculous it's a ridiculous thing to get angry about I'll tell you one of the conversations I heard recently which this is like such a simple point but someone I know was going you know how and I forgive me I don't understand these issues he was going how dare they make a mandatory minimum wage they were going to raise the minimum wage or whatever else I was watching two people and one gu was passionately going off about this and he was I think a republican MH my other friend was sitting there and it was such a great thing that he did he went that is he goes I 100% disagree with you he goes but could you explain to me why you think what you think and they had this amazing conversation where they just debated yeah that's great and it was with respect and I was like oh [ __ ] cool I I watched it like it was a podcast because I don't know who I don't know any of this [ __ ] anyway so I was just like I don't know it's a complicated issue it's about restaurants and places that operate at the margins they're they're very close to going under all the time and you can get cheap unskilled labor from like young kids and high school students and people getting first jobs and that's how they operate and when you say no you have to pay living wage to everybody who works there like okay now this is a lot less money as a business owner yeah yeah I mean but the point was though that that they were able to completely disagree and go I completely [ __ ] disagree with you no and it was it was fine it's great when people can do that I love that when
people don't attach themselves to the ideas that's the problem is almost every man that I know has a hard time women do it too but for men it's like a dick swinging thing where they have a hard time not being a attached to an idea like if they have espoused an idea if they believe in idea and they're arguing that idea that idea is a part of them and they'll even lie and and [ __ ] around with things and like half truths to try to make their point make a little you know they deal bad faith arguments you see it on podcasts all the time where people make bad faith arguments about political issues you're like oh God now I'm never going to listen to you again cuz I know you do this thing that's a gross thing that you don't have to do anymore because we live in the internet now like you don't have to do do that gross thing you do where you pretend you're right about something so that you can win this argument that's a stupid person's way of talking if you're if you're if you're debating honestly you you could in many situations be happy to be proven wrong yeah with my friends if I say there's absolutely no way you can lift that [ __ ] thing and you do it I'm like I was wrong yeah you know what I mean like I'm stoked you just did that well also it's like you're not your ideas I say this all the time but it's a really important thing for people to recognize and to people have it in your head you are not your ideas you are you and these ideas they come and they go and you agree with them or you disagree with them and sometimes you're going to agree with an idea and then a few years later you're going to have some life experiences or talk to some people that'll make you look at things differently and you go you know what I used to think this but I don't think this anymore and here's why yeah and you have to be very cognizant that your ideas can capture you and then you can become like so many people are captured by the way they want people to think of them this is a very Hol thing they want people to think of them in a very specific way so they'll say the things that they've heard other people say who are accepted and they'll talk in a certain way you know you you get that's where you get accents from that's also where you get upt talk you know what upt talk is so when you do this thing and so
when we build these infrastructures what we're trying to do so someone talked like that and a group of people talked like that and to get in with that group you had to kind of talk like that so you let them oh Paul is a really good guy so what Paul is doing is quite amazing Paul goes to the Amazon and he's in the rainforest you know so they're talking Val girl but this is a thing that they do to let everyone know that they're on the team it's a very tribal thing it's it's almost like another language and these tribal things that we do we we we attach them to everything we attach them to religion we attach them to technology even Health we attach them to ideologies and if you don't if I can't trust you if you're retweeting Elon mus don't you know he's the devil you know if you're you're hanging out with Joe Rogan oh my God he's a piece of [ __ ] like these people have these like little religious ideas in their head that you can't eat pork you can't violate this it's Sunday [ __ ] why are the lights on they have these weird laws in in their head they attach them to everything man people have like a place in their mind for religion and if you do not have religion in your life you will take social issues and you will treat them with the same fervor the same [ __ ] fever pitch that people treat religion that people who are you know Evangelical Christians the people who are you [ __ ] snake handlers yeah you'll you'll do that with your thing and if your thing is trans kids or whatever your [ __ ] thing is no oil now whatever your [ __ ] thing is it becomes a religion because you don't have religion and the human mind is set up in a way that you need some sort of divine structure you need something that's bigger than logic bigger than all of us and people will apply those things wherever they see fit you can join a cult and that's a whole different thing oh we're different we do yoga and this is our life [ __ ] each other yeah we all [ __ ] each other I mean but but then there's casualties like then Kevin Hart doesn't get to do the [ __ ] Oscars yeah but Kevin Hart shouldn't do the Oscars [ __ ] the Oscars you should wanted to do the osc those things are gross and what they are is uh you're having a a contest for art and I think that's gross I get it that it helps your movie sell
and if it's an Oscar Academy Award winner and I get that people are celebrated for great work I get all that it's it's awesome yeah I get it's a cele but it's also gross you know and when it was revealed to be gross was when Chris Rock was on stage and Will Smith slapped him and then a few minutes later Will Smith wins an Academy Award and they give him a standing ovation after you just assaulted a guy in front of it just shows you there's no ethical moral structure to the way these people are living their lives they're living their life by the whim of what the crowd agrees with but that's also like group hypnosis yes like if you if if that happened in any other situation like everyone was just like we don't really know what to do you know like you just keep going also they're afraid of being racist so they don't want us to two black guys are duking it out I can't get involved in this this is not my thing I don't know what to do I'm gay it's like they're just sitting there watching this take place and then they're clapping for him and standing up when he wins the Academy Award and so the rest of the world unbeknownst to them had already cast their judgment the rest of the world was like are you out of your [ __ ] mind this is insane and so they like oh my God the rest of the world think we're out of our [ __ ] mind cuz you are out of your [ __ ] mind you guys are all in a cult like no but but that's what I mean about a Del nobody else walked on stage and just went all right everybody we're taking five minutes out you get the [ __ ] over in the corner you stop are you okay okay great there's no we going to commercial break grabbed him immediately escorted him out of the building everyone just awkwardly continued on with the night and he awkwardly continued on with his set he did great not really no no no nois Rock right after that he was all [ __ ] up like his jokes that he they were flat everybody was like you just got slapped like this is crazy but that I don't think that was his fault I think that was because it was totally not his fault he just got slapped I I thought he did an incredibly classy job of just being like well I'm going to do the best I can and do my job as a professional he did that but he went back on with the script which is just insane but the good thing
about that is then Chris Rock really became Chris Rock again like he's he didn't give a [ __ ] anymore he's like why you slap me on TV I'm going offo so he became like Chris Rock from Bring the Pain again but I think what kept Him from doing that in the past was that he was in the club he was in the club he's hosting the Oscars doing these big movies you got to be in the club got you can't be retweeting Elon Musk you got to start learning the rules you got to learn the rules I got a you you would know the answer to this question so there was there was a you again I miss all these things didn't somebody Rush Chappelle on stage they took him out tell me if my my memory is accurate cuz I saw a video I don't remember who tackled the guy or whatever else but did they like dislocate his arm oh they beat the [ __ ] out of beat the [ __ ] out of they beat the [ __ ] out of this guy yeah once they got him they beat the [ __ ] out of him I'm sure they broke his arm I'm pretty sure pretty sure he's had multiple injuries he had a knife I mean he was a crazy homeless person terrible laps in security whoever the security guys are they got fired yeah um and it the whole thing was a [ __ ] mess the guy ran onto the stage I sometimes I do this thing where I I don't believe my own memory like I'll see something amazing and I won't yeah his arm look at his arm out of the [ __ ] [ __ ] out of they broke they probably cured him and snapped look at his face he looks like he went through a whole five round fight they beat the [ __ ] out he's like he's alive you know I mean you go after Chelle with a knife [ __ ] man you know I mean he didn't have the knife in his hands but he had a knife on him like some big [ __ ] knife dude that's also terrifying grass Knuckles looking thing that's terrifying yeah it's terrifying it's it's terrifying that there's people that are so out of their [ __ ] mind that and it's again the same kind of thing he's transphobic he's transphobic you jokes are transphobia words are violence no that's not that's violence Chappelle listen it's but that's how nuts we are listen that's how nuts we are that the guy can't listen to his special right they didn't listen they don't care that's the thing no one's listening they're not listening to me they're not listening to
El they're not listening yeah they just they have these things and they're just like religious dogma and they lock down on those things and Dave Chappelle's a transphobe we got to take him out Dave Chappelle is a living Saint yeah he he's Untouchable amazing person um but he makes jokes about things that are real in our culture and that's a real thing in our culture and if you say there's a thing that you can't make fun of that thing's [ __ ] if there's ever a thing you can't make fun of that thing is [ __ ] um dude yeah um I had to do I was taking care of somebody actually I wanted to tell you this I was taking care of I to take care of somebody that had life saving surgery and I was helping them recuperate and so I was just staying with them and and it was like you know you have a brush with death you have you see your mortality things are down whatever else and when we like caught our breath I was like let me just do something and I put on a clip of you and it was it was it was a you were telling the story about like a hotel and you you you was it was you sigura and Chappelle but anyway we were watching you guys do various bits of comedy on YouTube and I made this person you guys made this person laugh so hard with stop watching it cuz they were going to bust a stitch it was like the best medicine you've ever seen and it was um it was you were telling a [ __ ] crazy story about about waking up in a hotel and everyone's cramming down the exit yeah the hotel was on fire yeah that was great and then it was sigura doing um when disabilities are funny he goes he goes not all disabilities are funny he goes but sometimes they're funny and he does like a 10-minute piece on that and we're just crying and it was just such a great um transmission of just comedy just being the thing is comedy is comedy and to try to say it's normal speech is ridiculous because it's not your opinions it's things that are funny about these things like when someone's saying something about anything that's inappropriate you should never say that that's Louis CK's whole Act is saying the wrong thing you're not supposed to say that so he's going to say it and it's hilarious but it's also really well written and funny this is not like if you sat him down and
asked him his opinion on people and life he would give you a different version this is just an art form it's just like a movie like you go to a Quinton Tarantino movie none of those people really died okay this is just art it's just like something's creating something but that and that's the sense where I feel like it's coming back cuz like look at the [ __ ] that Chappelle's pulling look at the [ __ ] that you're pulling like people are saying stuff again well people are realizing that you don't have to give into this because it's a small very vocal minority of people but most people are tired of it most people Miss old you don't get a good comedy movie anymore you don't get super bad anymore they can't make that movie anymore Tropic Thunder Tropic Thunder you can't make that movie you can't make that I asked Robert dowy Jr he goes oh you could you could but you can't I mean we [ __ ] ourselves we [ __ ] ourselves by listening to these mental patients that's what they are they're I think some of going it's going to come back cuz I think it's going to now it's going to um usually right it'll swing back you look at movies from the 70s they're [ __ ] brutal oh yeah everything now is so sanitized and like you don't like but it's still Tarantino though he's sort of like he's the only one he's sort of like grandfathered in the last time that I saw a scene in a movie that that made me really cringe was in bastards when when the the the Bear Jew comes out of the cave and the GU the Nazi soldiers he's he's on his knees and you're so used to that they cut on impact mm he comes out and he [ __ ] takes that swing and they don't cut I don't know they film that [ __ ] movie Magic but you you go oh God and Brad Pit's sitting there chewing on a piece of bread and like clapping like eating while this guy gets beaten to death and but like I remember being like oh cuz usually you watch John Wick you watch whatever the [ __ ] you watch a thousand people die on screen it doesn't matter but every now and then they make it so real and those 70s movies back in the day oh yeah cuz all the [ __ ] was real oh yeah car chases were real yeah man and now I watch movies and I'm like dude come on you remember bullet the like 10 minutes of the mov car chase Steve McQueen yeah the Streets of San Francisco crazy a Mustang and a [ __ ]
charger there's a movie with Anthony Hopkins and Alec Baldwin where Anthony Hopkins has to fight a bear I think the whole movie is about them funny dude they actually they used Bart the bear from Legends of the Fall and whatever else but it is the most you watch it you will be blown out of your seat because Anthony Hopkins is is 10 ft from a [ __ ] grizzly bear and then the you can tell where they swap if you watch it really closely you can tell where they swap him out and the trainer gets like hit with a paw but this guy is wrestling with his pet bear yo seriously look at this look at this look at this bro look at that [ __ ] bear look look at [ __ ] Anthony Hopkins is the best how does he live in this how's that even possible because they just tear youart look at his face just trust me just Jamie go go to like halfway go to like halfway to this video this is so ridiculous that bear is like barely chasing him go like halfway halfway down this video oh he's got the fire out no I don't need to see this I'm going to have a different opinion of it I'm going get angry no no no no no that's not the clip there's a clip did you see the Revenant yeah pissed me off cartoon bear ah CGI bear and I love Tom Hardy and I love DiCaprio but that come on that CGI bear didn't get you know that's based on a real story yeah yeah that's based on a guy really get he crawled like 20 miles my main takeway from that movie is a lot of cold water cold water I just watched every time he [ __ ] crawled in a cold Cold Stream I was just like this is you know that incident didn't really take place in that environment though the the actual incident took place on the planes it it wasn't the same environment as uh the rainforest they just put it up there they put them in I think they filmed it see if they filmed the Revenant in BC I think they filmed it in in the like the rainforest of BC you know BC is a lot like Seattle Forest well I think they filmed it in like a dense forested area and I don't think the real incident took place in any sort of environment like that I'm positive of that winter deciduous forest but not waterfall scenes were filmed in Montana but the wiki says it was takes takes place in the Great Plains right so but where did they film all the forest
scenes I think it was Canada I think it's BC because it just is way more dense than the Great Planes it's not what the great it's not what they experience like with this guy crawled it's like he's crawling across the [ __ ] planes like this guy got torn apart by a bear and crawled actually craw initial plans were to film the final scenes in Canada although the weather was ultimately too warm so they had to go to Argentina where there was snow on the ground to shoot the ending Argentina that's the ending what about the other stuff in the woods like when they get attacked by the Native Americans I thought that was in BC either way whatever it is is like very dense forest which is not what the not historically accurate but you got to do a little bit of that do you I it's it's about the plains it's then there'd be no trees like trees are Central in that movie like the the the star the movie is kind of [ __ ] like isn't there a way to well then every movie is [ __ ] then Alberta there it goes okay I mean even you know uh Alberta's crazy thick I mean every movie then that you like you know like every like historical movie you go how much of it is true oh yeah like I just watched you know hate those movies Ford versus Ferrari and I was like how much of this is true and they're like none of it did any of this really happen no okay so the uh the can Canan ascus count country and the spectacular scenery of Bo Valley in the Canadian Rockies west of Calgary Alberta [ __ ] beautiful up there man yeah so that's not like the Real Environment where that really went down but but all yeah I guess it would have a different feel if if they were out on the planes and it was yeah and they get attacked by the Plains Indians and you know and that guy got [ __ ] up by that bear out there there's there was Bears out there dude that's what's nuts like we killed them off like California has a bear and it's state flag it's a big old brown bear used to be brown bears in California yeah oh yeah they they [ __ ] killed all of them they're like get the [ __ ] out of here they know they know what year the last uh brown bear was killed in California and they know when the last black bear was killed in
Manhattan that's nuts think about it blacked Manhattan when was that when they bought it for like $1 and it was just it was just a [ __ ] re there's a town named after the guy who was the last guy to get killed by a brown bear in California it's called Le nice I think his name was Steven LC and he got the last guy that got killed by a brown bear they like that's it we're done kill them all did you ever see that did you ever see the video where the guy where the bear takes the guy's face off and he's still talking okay yeah I did that's a bad that's a bad one yeah he got his face apart and they stitched it back together again you they didn't do a bad job not bad not bad cuz that video that was again one of those times where I I'm an adult and I'm I'm a I'm not okay that was like early days of Internet gross [ __ ] that was like ebals world time where you could see everything it was the early days I was just trying to explain this to my mom I was like when they were doing the the journalist be headings you could see it yeah if I tried now I don't know I wouldn't even know where to go Reddit really yeah forchan I don't think I've ever been on Reddit you should go yeah should I go should I go go to know there's people like that out there this search become like much more redit Redd is very leftwing and Reddit has become very censored like things get pulled down off of Reddit forchan is still Buck Wild forchan forchan forchan is where like um all that Q andon craziness came from there's a lot of nutty people out there that's where the political frogs those frogs pppe the frog that they use for memes it's it's all like internet culture ship posters yeah people that are anonymously posting so they can just say the wildest Things and there's no censorship yeah but I'm saying is but what I want is I want the gods Google I want that thing where you go I want to see people eating you know who got eaten by a bear and I like or you know how in the Grizzly Man they don't show you they don't show you the footage or play the audio like I want that like if I want to see it I want to be able to see it I think W Herzog destroyed that audio which is unfortunate yeah but also you know his his mind was like it's kind of funny right because his mind was like
this is be like it'd be too damaging it's too bad for you don't want to hear it you don't want other people to hear it I wouldn't want people to hear me screaming in agony as I died right but your whole film is about how [ __ ] stupid it is that this guy lives in the grizzly maze in the in in a tent surrounded by bears then it's inevitable that one of them's going to eat him yeah so so there'd kind of be like a comedic punchline to hear him go bro the movie is a comedy it is a comedy it is a comedy it is it is when he's like bad bear and he like touches it and the Bear turns around it's like what the [ __ ] did you just do the whole thing it's he was so nutty and he was such a CRA he was he was nuts he was Tiger King times 100 but he also there's like a moment where he transcends and he's like in the grass and there's a fox on his tent and you're like dude this is kind of cool yeah that was the fox relationship was cool the fox was cool but the bare stuff foxes become your friends which is weird yeah foxes are cool yeah like you can just you don't even have to have lived there a long time you just hang out with them long enough they'll they'll hang out with you well I found a fox den a few years ago go and so there's all these the mom was out and there's all these foxes baby foxes pups sitting outside the the hole so I would creep up on them I'd get into position and I'd watch them come out and they are the cutest little things in the world yeah and they're all just standing around and I was like I want to raise a fox so bad the people have done it I know they have pet foxes oh I know I wanted to do it so bad I had to go to the Jungle in like a week but I was like man if I wasn't going the door you would have to feed those little [ __ ] and they want to kill things all the time like it' be like having a really wild dog yeah it would be like having a coyote for a pet yeah I would imagine probably but they're really clever they're really clever they're really beautiful um yeah I don't and coyotes I don't even need to have coyotes as pets they're like behind in the Hudson Valley oh yeah they're all over the place everywhere yeah everywhere they're in Manhattan I don't believe that it's 100% true really yeah yeah in Central Park in Central Park multiple coyote sightings they've had
them in the Bronx coyotes coyotes are in every city in America at least in the US a huge Testament to how stealthy an animal can be oh yeah man cuz they live look at that stop it Central Park yeah yeah man they're all over the country they're all over the country and that's basically in the last hundred years oh it's a coyote I think less than that I think it's like from the 1950s on they've spread across the entire country um there's a great book called coyote America I have it's on my list I'm dying to read it dying to read Coyote's been seen in Central Park and other parts of New York City since the 1930s yeah the number of sightings has increased in recent years especially in 2019 yeah incredibly adaptive I mean that's just unbelievable they're the craziest they they adapt and they expand their range so whenever you kill one the females have more pups and they expand their range that's why they're everywhere now um I in in the jungle I was working with this British filmmaker and he came out of the Jungle one day and his face was white and he goes I saw something and I was like if you say Bigfoot I'm going to he's like he goes he goes no I saw he goes man he goes Matt you saw a wh tailed deer and I went you didn't see a white tailed deer we have red Brocket deer great Brocket deer you didn't see a white tailed deer and I started really hammering on him I was like Bro you've been out here too long man long story short there is a vestigial population of whail deer that inhabit the Western Amazon what so he thought he was insane they come in from the Andes and they they have like an island population down in the lowland jungle he happened to see and this is like a guy that you know he's not bullshitting whoa he was physically you know it's like you saw a giraffe and that's ridiculous that he would be that freaked out uh I think just because it didn't belong there he was a real Wildlife guy I mean if I saw you know a leopard in New Jersey I'd be like well [ __ ] either I'm cracking up or something you know as far as I know this doesn't go here right you know right so he came back and he was like I I don't know what to do he's like I saw something and I was like well did you get a shot of it and he was like no I
put my camera up and it ran and he was like but I swear to God and I was like nah you didn't see anything you saw white tail deer that's crazy have you seen the uh Jaguar sightings in Arizona I did I saw the camera tra phot that is super cool that is super cool we're doing something with uh these new Edna packages where they we can take water samples and it tests for all the different DNA in the water oh so all the different animal are drinking wow Bigfoot's either about to get found or go extinct he's going to go extinct yeah I know do you think they could find the giant sloth with that so that's an interesting one the only that and the thilosene are the only Cryptids that I'll entertain conversations about I entertain the the the sloth one because there's so many of these people in these deep dense jungles in in the Amazon that claim that they've seen them yeah I'll tell you something offline about that I I have a theory about where they are oh I can't wait to end this podcast I just I just there's got to be there's there's places people keep going we've we've explored the whole world well just like people don't realize and I'm telling you after coming off of these Expeditions where we travel for an entire week by land to get because you get on a plane go to get on a plane and be in Barcelona in a few hours right it's such a mind [ __ ] it doesn't make any sense whereas when you start walking or you start paddling you go this planet is huge huge and we deceive ourselves into thinking like oh yeah we figured it out but if you fly an a Cessna over the Amazon and you look at a a winding little golden river and you're looking out over a vast picture of football fields with this tiny little golden filament going through it and the next one of those golden Rivers which by the way that river is like 100 meters across this giant water artery that's been flowing through the Jungle the next one as you're in this Cessna looking out over the Jungle the next one is barely in your peripheral vision over there so you're talking about like 110 miles that way as the next dense dense jungle dense jungle no Trails not even the tribes nothing no one there who the [ __ ] has explored that they don't know what's under there no one's explored it not to mention 50% of the life in the
rainforest you forget it's a 3D environment when you're on the planes the animals are at eye level when you're in the rainforest you're under 160 ft of canopy so it's like being at the bottom of the ocean and we don't have access who can climb 160t tree that goes straight up like the world Trade Center right pretty much no one you're only going to see the Tree Tops if you do and you're only going to see the tree tops so scientists have had very limited access to the rainforest canopy where 50% of the life in the rainforest is wow so so much of the planet has not been described or studied and it's so funny when I watch people go yeah everything's been explored then it's like bro I could take you somewhere right now and show you the places where no one's been and they haven't flown over with lar yet and there are things that we don't know there like there a lot of stuff that we don't know about and I've seen cuz I've seen it with my own I don't believe [ __ ] that's why I have to touch the wet paint because I don't believe [ __ ] unless I've seen it [Laughter] myself well listen brother I'm glad you're out there it makes life more interesting I I appreciate everything you do and I appreciate you and and thank you for coming in here it's a lot of fun tell everybody how they can get a hold of you and how they can see what you're up to absolutely um Jungle Keepers is growing we're protecting more rainforest than ever Jungle keepers.com Crossing 100,000 acres the more people that come in and help we can actually find a way to protect the Amazon rainforest and stop feeling guilty about it um also Jamie if you just last thing pull up that Rhino transport picture I'm taking people out into Africa with the experts at that place Buffalo clof and people can actually come with me to do some incredible front lines on the ground work with endangered rhinos in Africa like this type of [ __ ] that's crazy absolutely the people who are holding back the extinction of these animals who are doing caged uh research and work protecting these amazing animals um Jungle keepers.com Instagram all that other [ __ ] and uh we're doing some truly miraculous stuff and a lot of it has to do Joe with the fact that you came in
and uh told everybody about it so thank my pleasure I'm I'm I'm happy for you wild out there so much thank you my pleasure all right bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]