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Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day what's up you all Juiced up with stem cells you feel any different are we live yet yeah we're live oh we are yeah oh yeah I feel I don't know you said I can't do anything for a few days though yeah you got to you you really should be taking time off like we were talking about how Shane Dorian went down to Tijana and he got like this full body stem cell treatment they injected his discs and they did all this Jazz they told him don't do anything for eight weeks yeah you like walk but you know just let it heal let it heal eight weeks I know it's hard hey could I get a little more volume oh you can turn it right there on that little thing yeah we're like a radio station now we got like real equipment okay you got a cough button too you have to cough see pretty cool that's pretty see I don't have this see I'm Bare Bones I'm like you know Mattel version podcast you're like the you're way ahead of me when I started I started with a webcam yeah yeah [ __ ] yeah I know but you're the Goda kind the I'm definitely am not no Adam Curry's The Godfather he's the podfather he was doing it like five years before me at least at least five years before me well you caught up yeah I caught up up but he does it like much more underground like he stays he's got everything how does he have his setup everything is like subscription based he I don't think he even has advertisers have a tied they have it tied into crypto so everything's bits you can tip with bits and stuff and distributed but he's a like super nerd he's into all that crypto [ __ ] I just it's too much for me I like bow hunting that's that's all I'm into I don't have time for this crypto stuff right I I I believe in it I think it's it holds promise every now and then one of those FTX things happens where everybody loses billions and I'm like yeah exactly that's why I didn't get involved in any of that [ __ ] right there was a few of those companies that tried to get me involved in sponsors and stuff like that and do ads and I was like what are you doing what is this and also those what about those card things oh uh you mean an nft yeah yeah see that is
not real I guess it's sort of an nft but that's really just an art gift from this guy be and beeple who is this uh really cool artist who puts up a new piece of art every day 365 days a year he does stuff like that and it's all have you ever seen his stuff I think maybe pull up be's Instagram it's wild wild [ __ ] but he actually has a gallery and in his Gallery he has things like this but enormous ones like big giant things that he's made and all these like it's really cool stuff so that's a different kind of an nft that's pretty sick his his nfts are you're getting digital actual digital art and it actually comes like this thing that he sent us it's like it it moves it's got like a little QR code you can scan that pretty cool yeah it's a different sort of experience but for the most part I think the nft [ __ ] that s bank from fre in jail whack it off to pictures of his ex that's that picture yeah that's his cell he's got the other guy on the wall with his eyes crossed out that's the guy that ratted him out an iHeart see there's a lot look at that's his ex-girlfriend see his lotion there Luber hilarious I mean this is the kind of [ __ ] this guy does and he does it every day hilarious he's he's a super cool guy too we had him in he was a lot of fun so that I understand that is digital art I understand that but there's a lot of the nfts like the board ape Yacht Club yeah I was like what is it it what yeah for a while there it seemed like everybody was making like Millions I'm like so what what do I got to do here so can I make a hunting photo in nft and just make a bunch of money or how does this work I think a lot of people thought that at first and maybe if you hopped on the bandwagon at the very beginning before everybody kind of woke up there's no there's no there there right so like here's the thing like people like well it's yours and you own it nobody get yeah but I could take a screenshot of it and I have it on my phone yeah and where are you going to look at it other than your phone like I literally have what someone paid a million dollar for if I wanted to get a screenshot of it I could get that and then it's on my phone it's not even a different resolution like what oh it's but it's not your crypto wallet okay I guess you win I love this argument it's
fun but like that's the same like you have a screenshot of the Mona Lisa on your phone you don't own the Mona Lisa no no it's very different because the Mona Lisa is a physical painting made by a master artist that's in a frame and you could look at it and you could Ponder the thought behind it the artistic expression the technique and brush strokes and painting this guy from hundreds and hundreds of years ago created this masterpiece that endures today could you do that on your phone too I mean you could like but it's a look if you had a copy of the Mona Lisa like a print and you put that on your wall I could mean that still has Merit that's still a piece of art but the board a ape Yacht Club pull up one of them say with this with the salvator Monday it would solve it would solve a lot of the problem with this cuz you would have known that Leonardo made it because when it was first printed and he made it for sale ideally 500 years ago it would have been on the blockchain and like the history of that would have been known and there was only one of them made and all of that if it was an nft 500 years ago if I'm saying like if it was equivalent to what nfts are now you would have this the problem that existed with that whole documentary and like who made it was it repainted and all that kind of stuff would never have been that whole thing would have never existed okay but this that's not the best example I see what you're saying that's an example though I'm trying to say this is a way more complicated story do you know about that thing go back to that image again please M that thing is wild because that is supposedly a lost Leonardo da Vinci supposedly uh but the problem is there's whole documentary on it is it called the last Le the Lost Leonardo is that the documentary it sounds right I mean the P picture is called Salvatore Mundy right what is the documentary about but that painting was the most expensive painting I believe ever sold or one of the most expensive and they auctioned it at christe's and it sold for $450 million yeah now here's the problem with it most of that painting has been recreated most of that painting has been touched up by a modern artist it's this woman and they show her doing it over like I think it was over a decade of
working just on this one you know like 36 by 24 whatever the size painting is it's not a really big painting this lady worked on this one painting so I think some so she influenced it not just influenced it yeah most of the work is her work like show the original this is what that happened someone found it somewhere at some sale and they bought it for like really cheap and then as they're starting to go over this it's all documented in this lost Leonardo movie as they're starting to go over it they start thinking like I think this is Leonardo da Vinci's work and so then it sells for quite a bit more but then they have it brought to this lady who's an art restorer and she retouches it but there's a lot of problems with it and some of the problems are that it seems like it was multiple times it was painted over and it it seems like more than one artist painted it and the what they had originally versus what it is now looks very different like see if you can find so here's an I mean I'm trying to find the correct example that you're describing but here's one example of it this was a it says 1913 version of it and then it got cleaned up in 2005 wow right but there was a way worse version of it that they bought well so yeah yeah I mean so that was two two years later here's the restored version where they took everything off of it yeah so so is that what that is like all those white stripes is the restored version clean State clean State okay so they had to take off the paint that was put on to clean it up after they restored it in 19 what was it I mean that this it was found in a collection in like the early 1900s I think that was the other one that was restored like the pencil one yeah yeah that one right there so so the one on the left they were saying like maybe this is a Leonardo and so they clean it up but then this lady goes and paints over it so like look go back back up please go back up to that so that image is kind of [ __ ] up like if you're going to buy that how much is that worth right I mean it's beautiful like look at the hand it's incredible you would think well maybe this is Leonardo Da Vinci but so then this lady goes over the whole thing and then show her the final version that's I was trying to think it's at the bottom okay
the final version is pretty stunning this is the after Restorations on the right yeah but during restoration on the left it's so much more detailed mhm than the original one that was all [ __ ] up yeah so like is that a Leonardo or is it or is it that lady who did it it seems like it's that lady it's a collab yeah it's a collab but that's not how it's being sold as if you get the Mona Lisa that's the [ __ ] Mona Lisa yeah right that is Leonardo da Vinci's work and they kept it in pristine condition for all these years this is like some weird [ __ ] so MBS the ruler of Saudi Arabia owns it and he just keeps it on a yacht the Mona Lisa no that thing Los Leonardo he tried to make a deal apparently they talk about this in the documentary that he wanted to put it at the Lou in Paris next to the the original Mona Lisa and the people in Paris are like yeah and this we don't even know what this is take four of those four yeah I'd take four or six if you want to be smart I need to take this whole bottle come on man we we're uh we're shooting you up with stem cells giving your Alpha Brain you're having the full Austin experience here cams MH so uh here's these goofy Apes I don't know if that's why we brought it up well those are worth millions yeah well Jamie bought these I have one did you know the last time we mentioned his t-shirts and he made yeah it was a nice little pop $3,000 which ones pull that up Jamie t-shirts which t-shirts yeah mostly I think we just did a little mention at the end of the podcast cuz he said he had this big spike and sales and he's like what the hell happened on this day and it was like us talking cuz I mentioned something about young Jamie the best one is the I looked into it the rainbow fun one I was thinking of giving that to grush I didn't have it in my head in time like he's looked into it the most yeah he's looked into it the most so you were saying that you're on the fence off the fence about grush the story I was hearing is it's just it's a it's a lot I with I'm going to skip a lot of it but what I was reading and SL what they were saying is that one possibility that could be going on is there is an I think we're taking in some of gram Hancock stuff too if if people were around on Earth 500,000 years ago in
some way there was some split and a second set of humans continued on and we're like in this inter Dimension space where they're both happening simultaneously and that's where like if he was saying this no no no no this is from the I'm gathering this all from like that video I'm adding in some of gry Hancock stuff too cuz this kid didn't also interv interviewed him Jesse Michaels on his on his podcast they're talking about some of the same stuff but something they said in the grush interview on his podcast was that uh an idea would be that these people exist on a on like a split uh timeline from us like we had cataclysms and died and repopulated and whatnot now we've ended in this place in 2023 with combustion engines and we're flying around these people would have been in a different anti-gravity who knows what they figured out and they went somewhere else I think I don't they're not even saying that this is where like they're not going to talk I they haven't talked about that but I think what they're saying or getting or getting at maybe is that they're here and that's why the nuclear thing is so um uh important to them they're on the same Planet as us and if we blow up the planet it goes away from so they're here we just don't know where they are and that's where the in dimension thing comes in I that's what I'm gathering out of what I've heard how high were you when you came up with this it's not I don't think I'm saying it's my theory this is what they're sort of saying gush is sort of like that's an interesting thing you're saying he's not confirming it with him or anything but it was it's a lot to take in that's definitely for sure yeah it's all a lot to take in we David grush is that UFO whistleblower that testify in front of Congress yeah it's hard to say man the thing about it is I believe he's telling the truth as far as what he's experienced and the documents that he uncovered and the people that he talked to but how do you know whether or not they're just using him as a useful idiot to just get out some silly story because they're covering up for the fact that there's some very Advanced drone system that the United States government has to trying to keep under wraps right it might be both I I think it's probably both things
you well here's the thing you're out in the woods all the time M you ever see a UFO no ever see Bigfoot no have you talk to a hunter that's seen a UFO no ever talked to a hunter that's seen Bigfoot I talked to so really the guy down at San Carlos the Apache reservation yeah they said they've seen stuff okay were they on peyote I don't know cuz I know a lot of those Indians get down I don't think so I mean I don't and it's been like multiple times what kind of stuff like square like something Square flying oh interesting yeah because that is the thing that they describe right it's a square with a sphere inside of it like a black no the opposite a a sphere with a black Square inside of it F yeah so that's I don't know anybody other than that that's a that's the first story I've heard from somebody who I have talked to well that kind of makes sense that that thing they do spot that's a common one some flying Square inside a sphere like a translucent sphere and that's uh like legitimate Pilots have seen that that's a weird one right is that my theory and this is totally unfounded without any research whatsoever it's just those are the best kind are my favorite kind of theories my theory is that they have this ability to make something move in this insane way with gravity but they can't put a body in it and they can't put weapons in it they can't it's just an object that they can get to move at insane rates of speed that's what I think I think the military applications of this thing have yet to be figured out but I think they do have something that can do things that we have no knowledge of but the United States government is probably they probably have in their possession something that was either back engineered from something from somewhere else or something that they developed in a completely top secet environment with the top research scientists probably during the wars during World War II and three or three uh Vietnam that's in pending and in Iraq and Afghanistan think about the amount of money that gets funel funnel through the government and that they they don't I mean didn't the Pentagon just for the sixth year in a row fail their audit imagine if you failed your audit six
years in a row boy they craw up your ass with a [ __ ] microscope yeah I think is that what it was they ever passed it but yeah they correct it just say fail six audit with number passing so there's a lot of money flowing around is my point yeah and who knows how much of that money is going to these secret programs that we don't know about yeah yeah I know and if they did that and they did have the top scientists and if I was the [ __ ] president and I was the chief of staff and I was running the Pentagon I would want the best scientist so I'd recruit the best scientist and I'd said hey you know this is National Security we're working on this project it uses gravity propulsion shut the [ __ ] up don't tell every anybody but you get to work on some cool [ __ ] yeah and you get make paid a lot of money you get paid a lot of money you get to be a part of one of the most insane discoveries in human history so this is what we're working on I think that's likely too but then you got to go back to like the Foo Fighters from the 1940s and the crash at Roswell and that you also have to be open to the possibility that like look there's a lot of planets out there MH a lot of planets out there it's very possible that we're not alone yeah it seems like we would have found something by now if you could go to another planet and bow hunt that'd be sick I wouldn't do it no imagine if you be the first guy to eat a deer from another planet and you just [ __ ] die instantly that's a good way to go no it's not it's a dumb way to go the good way to go is to send some some [ __ ] prisoners over there send some murderers send some like School shooters I well send them over there to eat a space deer I I guess you could yeah test them out just say either you kill this and eat it or you die because there's no food so good luck and then see what happens exactly yeah I like so but some housekeeping real quick thank you for getting me down here for the stem cells my pleasure ways to well shout out to ways to well yeah that that's good and I I think uh I I like that um you know I had Bloks is kind of coming on to they offer the same ways to well offers the same thing but it seems like those type of outfits are really going to gain popularity because of the distrust in
the medical yes whatever like your your regular doctor that was telling you oh yeah you got to get this vaccine this and that and now it's you know obviously there's distrust there so I think people are thinking do I need a doctor what do I what's a doctor for just pushing prescriptions on me so now they can kind of take their health into their own hands get their blood panels done see where they are um you know on a bunch of different markers and that's what ways to well and BLS does and I think a lot of people are going to be doing that instead of calling their their family doctor well a lot of family doctors unfortunately just don't have that knowledge base they don't understand peptides they'll tell you not to take things and they don't have any knowledge of it themselves and you talk to them they have a pot belly you know well you don't need any vitamins you can get everything you want from a balanced diet why they're eating cheeseburgers like like and they do that you're like your markers and they're saying well this is say with test they'll say well your testosterone is within a normal range normal R yeah normal compared to another [ __ ] normal guy you see the normal American these days I don't want to be anywhere near that guy I want to be like my own category optimized yeah so yeah optimize um built for performance you know get your body at the highest level not compared to the average American right so that's where I don't know well there's a lot of peptides that are very beneficial and some of them they've even pulled from the market because they're beneficial it's one of the things they did with thymus thyon was used during covid a lot of people were using it to help them recover from covid so they pulled it so they made it so you can't access thyon because they they're trying to make money off of it exactly yeah and these compounding pharmacies can make it and they make it fairly cheaply it's non expensive and they're doing that with bpc 157 as well because so many athletes use bpc 157 it's a very common one for helping heal injuries and it works works really well I know a lot of people that use it a lot of Fighters can't use it unfortunately uh but a lot of Jiu-Jitsu guys use it MMA fighters in the UFC at least can so they test for it yeah
unfortunately I don't think they should because I I I think what it does is help you heal and I think if you're in a sport that literally most of the time you're getting smashed most of the time you're getting kicked and punched and you're always dealing with injuries wouldn't we want to help these guys get to the Finish Line like get to the fight because a lot of injuries like Gordon Ryan was supposed to compete uh the beginning of December and then the end of December uh in Jiu-Jitsu and he just [ __ ] his rib up he just tore his rib this is a normal thing that happens with jiu-jitsu guys it's a normal thing that happens with UFC guys but Gordon will have access to way to well and they'll give him all the best peptides they'll figure out what's the best protocol in order to help heal that and he'll get back on track much quicker than someone if they were fighting in the UFC who had no access to those things because they're being constantly tested yeah yeah I don't think they should test for that you know I think they should figure out like what's cheating and what's just helping you heal and let's you know let's not let guys take Trend and [ __ ] dball and all this crazy [ __ ] yeah let's not do that but I don't see any problem with things like bpc157 that are just all it's going to do is help your body heal yeah quicker right that's what we want we want to get better quicker you're in the business of breaking bodies yeah you're in the business of literally kicking guys legs out from under them and punching them in the stomach like we should have some [ __ ] that makes you heal quicker right just be healthy it's not gaining an advantage over another Fighter the only Advantage is you won't be injured as long which is a very good thing that we should apply to everyone and it's not dangerous doesn't have horrible side effects it's not something that's scary it's going to [ __ ] up your reproductive system it doesn't do any of those things it just helps you heal faster and I think these organizations UFC and all the other ones as well they should embrace all these different things and just stop treating it like the problem is really it was baseball this is the problem this is where everybody got it in their head that it's cheating it was Mark maggu and Sammy
Sosa and when those guys were on that [ __ ] home run competition and they were cracking them out of the park and they both looked like superheroes it was awesome don't forget Barry Bonds Barry Bonds right Barry Bonds as well but yeah that was like that was a Heyday of baseball so you're trying to make people not care yeah and but those guys were Juiced to the tits and baseball which is the American Pastime we Associated steroids in baseball with cheating he's a cheater where we're not cheaters we're Americans right you know but listen if you could get a hold of any NFL player in between camp like what what what are the odds what are the odds they're not Sportsman of the year what year was that the year that they were doing it I think whatever like8 98 or why they wear in togas CU they're Gladiators what but do gladiators were toas I don't know who who wears togus those guys were oh Animal House yeah I guess they were with John balushi yeah look at Mark McGuire with a glass of milk in a baseball bat that's hilarious if milk gave him those guns the size of those guns going going gone I'm drinking milk see Barry Bonds I want to see him oh Barry Bonds got super jacked I know he was so good just naturally mhm and then he added all that muscle and was oh look at this yeah if they could allow those guys to do the sof look how skinny was at first and then boom but he was so good when he was skinny yeah oh he was great in the beginning and then got that extra horsepower from all that all that clear the stuff they were rubbing on them I know I had that guy on the guy from Bal vict what his name Victor yeah he explained it all and how it's all done and what they did very fascinating yeah cuz I remember uh Maguire said he was taking like andrall or it was some supplement you could buy and oh that's and it just skyrocketed off the shelves yeah he probably took that too yeah you know I know that stuff did work it gave you a little bump I couldn't tell you I couldn't tell you what I take that works cuz I take 30 different things so he probably wasn't lying he's like yeah I take this and here's the results but I take a handful of who knows what I take a lot more stuff now after that Gary Brea podcast I started taking methylated B vitamins and all sorts other stuff
that he was that a good I didn't listen to that one was it good [ __ ] great one that's a great one holy [ __ ] he goes deep yeah that's an amazing one he changed Dana White's life I mean Dana White was basically on death's door and he put him on a ketogenic diet now Dana looks [ __ ] 15 years younger he does yeah he looks amazing well he's in this light bed he got this red light bed every day and his face just looked better one of the things that happens when you lose fat and this definitely happened to me recently you lose fat in your face so your face starts to sink in around here it kind of looks like [ __ ] you need Botox no you know that's not going to help because it's it's you're losing face fat oh you know and it's also collagen you don't have as much collagen as you're older as you do when you're younger so if you're a younger person you have a lean face it doesn't look as bad as when you're an older person you know who said that once William shackner he's like 80 years old he's talking about how he gains weight because it keeps the Winkles away cuz it keeps a fat face and you don't have as many wrinkles my daughter watches do all these like before and after things so it's like I think Buckle fat removal I think Buckle fat is somewhere on your face I Buckle I don't know what Jamie what's Buckle fat Buckle fat yeah I think it's like what you're talking about maybe well what I'm talking about is when you if you're a fat person you're not going to have a gaunt face right but if you're a person who loses weight here it is Buckle oh b u CC a l fat removal oh so they take that out so they have more like the h cheekbones oh I see so it's like sculpting yeah yeah see like that making your face sculpting right so that's you're just doing that naturally you're more sculpted yeah I'm just I lost a lot of face fat for sure I lost a lot of body fat but that's all from carnivore diet that changed everything for me how come has Dana ever been on the podcast yeah he's yeah yeah he's been on when a while back he'll do it again I'm sure he'll do it again I don't man I never remembered him being on yeah yeah he was just at the club the other night he came to the club uh Thursday night Wednesday night Wednesday night yeah just a couple nights ago oh good yeah was coming hang out he's great
I love that dude he looks [ __ ] amazing he does I know he looks so good he looks so much and he looks like a different person but at first his face was looking gaunt kind of like mine does where like your cheek sunk in but it's like if you want a six-pack or you want a fat face you know you don't get both if you got a fat face you don't get a six-pack no yeah it's a given a six-pack your face gets thinner but this red light thing is like plumped up his face with collagen and it just looks so healthy his skin looks so healthy I'm really impressed but his energy level is so different it's amazing but uh he doesn't need any sugar anymore he doesn't drink alcohol anymore and he's just [ __ ] super healthy no alcohol huh no alcohol I mean I'm sure occasionally maybe he'll have a drink but he does not drink like regularly what's the next big fight well there's a nice card this uh next weekend in Austin that we're going to go see pumped about that that should be fun but then the big one is Colby versus um Leon Edwards in Vegas so for the Welterweight Title and that's that's a couple weeks from now that's a big one that's a big one that one's big that one's exciting oh that's a good one what else is that card pull up that card Jamie Tony oh that's all right Tony and Patty pimpl Tony's training with David cagas which is crazy oh panta versus Brandon Roy V for the flyweight uh World title and shott Rock manov versus Wonderboy woo that's G to be a good one and vente luki versus Eden Gary woo those are good fights that's a good fight I'm very interested to see Tony after he's been training with David Goggins there's a lot of like very mixed reviews about whether or not that would be a good thing or a bad thing for him yeah I see I I read a bunch of those comments yeah it's interesting it's like who else is on it oh Josh emt's on that fight against Giga oh Giga Chad is on that fight too look at this C cter gbrand and Brian kellerer oh [ __ ] this is all on the Dustin jacobe and Alonzo menifield wow these are this is a good [ __ ] card son this is a good card holy [ __ ] yeah go all the way back down there again please that card is [ __ ] stacked yeah that that uh Cody fight will be good with Brian M yeah and Randy Brown versus Muslim salikov is a [ __ ] killer fight too these are good fights
man holy [ __ ] that's a card from top to bottom yeah that's a really good card how many fights is that 13 fights 14 14 13 in the world that's a long day for you woo yeah that's a long day mhm this fun though who's going to win this one right there very interesting fight very interesting fight you know how is kby doing because he he was pretty [ __ ] up by that sucker punch right yeah I think he's doing better now yeah what what was the extent of the damage that I'm not I don't know what it amounted to um yeah I'm not sure cuz he was suing them and did they settle that I think they settled did I read that they settled did you see that yeah so he just said pay me [ __ ] I think it was just you know proven a Point yeah you can't be going around sucker punching he just kicked your ass you had your chance to punch him he had five rounds I think and it didn't work out at all I think it's just uh on principle yeah I think Colby was just like no yeah I'm gonna make you pay yeah you well you can't just let people get away with that because then they're going to do it more often and it's going to really muddy up the sport it's going to be a real problem it's just it's a crime I mean you're literally committing crime don't do that I think uh yeah I think that I think col's going to get that one you think so I want him to I know you do cuz you like him yeah I like Leon too it's it's a good fight I'll tell you that because uh if you were gonna pick someone Jorge mazal pleads no contest to charge from altercation this is November 6th oh so this just happened so they haven't settled it yet I think that was the end of it if he pleaded no contest okay it says the plea deal said the two felony charges of AGG assault and criminal mischief were dropped as part of the plea agreement there is a no staya away order in the agreement also a no staya away order what does that mean that what's a no staya away I could understand a staya away order like a restraining order I think but not a no stay away there is no staya away order is what it's saying there but it says there's also no staya away order in the agreement right there isn't a staya away so he does to stay away so they can hang
out with each other yeah uh the 30 38-year-old has been facing over 10 years in prison the case stems from altercation punched him twice breaking his tooth even causing an alleged brain injury the incident occurred just a few weeks after cing defeated mazal by unanimous decision in the main event uh mazal says I just beat the case I want to thank God also want to thank my turnning because I'm a free [ __ ] man [ __ ] you Colby it's gonna be a [ __ ] movie now all these orders all these restraining orders all these things have been lifted off it's going to be a [ __ ] movie I don't know what that means um who's gonna play Jorge that'd be a boring ass movie like you guy sucker punches a guy and then gets off that's a movie thank you thank you Jesus yeah yeah I don't know if it's going to be a movie yeah I think that brain injury that's just maybe he had a concussion yeah I mean so he probably had a concussion I mean if he got sucker punched most likely you got a concussion mhm the thing is like you can only get so so many of those your life yeah and if you get a big one right before you're going to fight Leon Edwards it's good that he took a lot of time off cuz he did take a lot of time off yeah he did was like two years right yeah almost yeah be pretty close um Leon is [ __ ] good man it's a good fight but if you wanted to pick someone who' have a really good shot at Lyon it would be someone who's an elite Grappler who has an incredible gas tank who can push a ferocious Pace that's Kobe and Kobe Wades right into the fire he starts it off like that just to I think keep him honest M you know he'll come in throwing bombs because they know he wants to take him down so he's got to keep that honest I think and just like get him thinking about the big punches too yeah he's got to get him thinking that this isn't just takedowns and if you just think about takedowns I'm I'm throwing Haymakers your way yeah he's [ __ ] good man I mean everybody other than Usman got [ __ ] up by Colby everybody and the Usman that faced Leon Edwards man I don't want to make excuses for Usman but there is a reality of that guy's knees it's an inescapable reality that I know firsthand I've talked to him about it I know people that have treated
him I know his knees are so [ __ ] up it is just his mind that allows him to compete at that level we were talking about it during the last fight when you see the difference between his upper body and his legs right his legs are like smooth and they're not that muscular and then you look at his upper body's a [ __ ] superhero yeah he's his upper body is so much Bigg because he can't do much with his legs man which is so crazy this guy's one of the greatest UFC welterweight champions in history compromised with [ __ ] up knees yeah he has to walk backwards downstairs yeah that's uh that's insane what he did insane but how old is he now 36 37 yeah so and then he just lost to Hamot yeah which is uh it's just boy look when that fight was announced I was like oh that's a great fight but if I was in kamaro's short notice if I was in kamaro's ear I'm like dude no and I would have said that same thing to Vulcan nowski I said no not a short notice not 10 days you're the world champion you're not just the world champion you're one of the best ever yeah and you have a real opportunity to go down in history as the greatest of all time then he gets head kicked with a 10day camp and he gets knocked out like that's that counts well and it also can change your career 100% yeah and a head kick like that could change your life yeah I mean I don't know what the extent of the damage is but there's been some head kicks where yeah like Terry Edam when Terry Edam fought Edson Barbosa Edson Barbosa wheel kicked Terry Edam in the head and we kind of never saw Terry Adam fight at that level ever again it was a devastating kick he wheel kicked him and just shut him off and it was I believe it was the first wheel kick knockout in the history of the UFC M I'm pretty sure and it was perfect yeah it was just like the perfect example of how devastating that kick is when applied properly and Terry Edam was like a world class Contender he kind of never was the same again and he disappeared yeah that's a risk I mean everybody likes somebody who will go out on their shield and take any fight and like always game but man 10 days is not enough what's a risk cuz obviously he wasn't in shape so he's having to lose all that weight you know 30 or whatever had to lose you're not going to be your best no way no way
you're going to be your best you're fighting the champion but then you have the opposite which is Tom Aspen Tom aspal fights pavage and takes that fight on two week's notice and becomes the interim champion and [ __ ] his backup and can't train at all that is crazy also though he's a heavyweight he doesn't have to cut yeah that's what I'm going to say the bigger guys I think it's not quite the same it's not quite the same doesn't have to cut weight which is a giant Factor so he doesn't have to do massive amounts of cardio and he could literally just let his body heal and I don't know what he was even able to do his back apparently was pretty [ __ ] up yeah but the other good thing was that pavich is not a Grappler in fact his lone loss was to Alistar over him and Alistar got him down the ground and grounded bounded him that was very early in his career but Aspen all like that guy he's something special he really is something special he's a very unusual very unusual example cuz's a heavyweight he's a big guy a really big guy but he moves so fast and um his coach uh I think it's Colin I forget his how to say his last name um how do you say his last name Colin H Hume I forget it's from uh cabon this this gym that he uh trains at in the UK from the time he was young emphasized his speed it's like you knew he's going to be a big guy you're always gonna be a big guy yeah Colin Heron yeah that's it um breaks down Curtis blades challenge okay so this guy who is uh he trained Darren till he's he looks tough himself I'm sure he's tough you don't train those guys unless you're tough but the the point is that like Colin from the early days of the uh of the career was like emphasizing his speed and so his speed has always been like extraordinary compared to other heavyweights like he just [ __ ] moves in it's all like Fast explosive movements so he's got natural speed but then he's also got a lot of training to execute quickly so when he moves in he Clos the Gap you can see like [ __ ] he's fast for a big guy right yeah it's uh yeah uh I don't know and when I think of vul that fight you know was very close he lost the first time that was at the full camp at its best yep I mean yep yeah he lost part of it
was he said he didn't he needed something to do too wasn't he like that idle time was killing him mentally but he's got a fight with Ilia Toria who is a [ __ ] killer oh my God that guy punches so hard oh he does everything so good Ilia Toria is uh that guy is he is [ __ ] special he's a real challenge when he fought Mitchell because I thought Bryce Mitchell I mean he's good Bryce Mitchell's very good and he beat the [ __ ] out of him he beat the [ __ ] out of him but also Bryce Mitchell apparently was recovering flu that's right he he said he wasn't making excuses so I mean he wasn't making excuses but here's an excuse maybe I mean I get it he I'm sure he's telling the truth that was a freaking it's a normal thing to Happ that impressed me how good yeah uh what's his name torya yeah well then the Josh EMT fight was really impressive he beat the [ __ ] out of Josh EMT and Josh EMT is a hammer he's a scary dude and I think Torri is special he's so vul's fighting him next yes and he's fighting him after getting getting knocked unconscious yeah you know and I mean look all fair play to Islam because makev looked [ __ ] fantastic he made all the adjustments between the first fight and the second fight one of the first things he did like heavy kicks to the body from the left side which set up that high kick threw a lot of front kicks down the middle I mean he was hammering vul from the outside yeah vul did a lot of things in the first fight that he just could not do in the second fight because makev had improved so much and I think the embarrassment of having a very close fight with a guy that you're supposed to steamroll you know and a guy who's the 145 pound champ you're the 155 pound champ you're talking about going to 170 and you have this incredibly close fight with this guy and you're not able to submit him and he's laughing at you and talking [ __ ] and at the end of the fight he's beating you up he's on top beating you up I think that was a very very strong motivating factor and makev just trained like a [ __ ] monster for the second fight which was supposed to be not who was it supposed to be olera supposed to be Olivera olera gets injured you know but the point is like he was at his very best he's at his very best always
getting better yeah he's the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world now and I'm telling you that argument could have been before that fight it could have been volkanovski you could have said volkanovski is the best even though he lost that fight he's going up in weight extremely close I kind of thought he won the fight I gave him the nod but very close close it's not a robbery but very close but now you got to say well makev just is he's better he's better than he was the first fight and we don't really get a chance to see if if volkanovski was better right because volkanovski didn't have a camp no you have to have a camp the difference between these guys with a camp and without a camp is giant it's like the difference between fighting at 40% and 100% I couldn't imagine it's crazy I mean mentally you'd have to I don't know how could you believe in yourself you know that's what kamaro said Camaro said he kept wondering ing whether or not he had the gas to go yeah didn't know if he had the gas to like step on the gas and at the end of the fight he started tuning Kad up he looked good in the third round I was wishing that fight was two more rounds I was I wishing they just [ __ ] figured out some [ __ ] for his knees yeah if that guy didn't have bad knees who's GNA touch him yeah he was so good in his prime godamn especially when he got his he got that power you know at first he didn't have it it didn't seem like he was you know hardcore wrestling but then I mean he hit Colby a couple times we stopped Colby but how when he knocked out mozal with one shot God yeah that was brutal power lights out yeah he's a real Warrior man but the most the thing that impresses me the most is his his mind the fact that he can overcome that pain the [ __ ] guy's in pain walking you know it's like goggin yeah like people know now because we've talked about it goggin just got another [ __ ] knee surgery yeah I mean his after Tony or before Tony before Tony yeah his knees are destroyed they're destroyed it's bone on bone there's nothing going on there other than two bones banging into each other and he's running thousands of miles the doctor looked at David's knees and he said I don't understand how you can walk never mind run a thousand miles right how the [ __ ] are you doing this
and it's just the mind yeah and that's the same thing with tomorrow tomorrow just he just like puts that [ __ ] aside how do you think that what do you think about Tony training with David what do you think it's going to do I don't know I don't know because we've never seen anybody train with David before yeah you know look you could say on one one hand look clearly when the two of them are training together Dave is not struggling at all and Tony is struggling so there is definitely some ground to gain when it comes to endurance yeah or endurance and mental strength yes but but endurance just just Tony's I mean Dave is not even [ __ ] tired m they're they're going side by side with each other he's like who's going to carry the boats he's not even [ __ ] tired because he can go for days he could just go for days he's an endurance athlete right there's there's without a doubt some benefit in that yeah so look at the two of them are doing that and they're doing the workouts together yeah and David looks like he's like hanging out at [ __ ] Planet Fitness yeah you know trying to pick up a chick you know like he's like so what are you doing after this you know what I mean like he looks look at Tony standing up Tony's dying Tony's dying I think he pukes here one of these one these videos I'm sure he puked a t but David said that Tony was the first guy to get through hell week with yeah which is incredible so they're doing miles of lunges miles and David's doing all this look at his knees destroyed knees and this is just a few weeks after another [ __ ] surgery yeah his they opened up his knee like a fish and sewed that [ __ ] back up together I don't know what the [ __ ] they did to it he's such a stud he's an animal just a [ __ ] pure machine you know who hates him who weak men yeah weak men hate him weak men and jealous men and people who don't know him there's he gets misunderstood you know unfortunately by some people that I like they just they don't they don't look into it hard enough and then there's there's is also there's a natural inclination to try to find someone who's just exceling above and beyond everyone and find shortcomings in them pick them apart find something instead of just look at the message that guy's saying right what is he saying he's saying take control
take control use your [ __ ] mind take control of your life and and be better at everything and you can do this and I used to be a fat [ __ ] and look at me now that's a great message man that is that message sad I mean that message resonates with me it resonates with you it resonates with all the people that we know me that is a [ __ ] message and a half and he's living it he's not just saying it he's living it yeah it's a I think it's a national treasure oh so do I I mean I you know you have this quote I see it's been going around on reals talking about God there's a like a certain set of men who that are just I I can't remember how you say it it's so good I've been seing people put put it on their own reels but like they're just built for I don't know if it was chaos or something do you remember this Spiel you had I've said a lot of things yes I know but it's like a good one that's go that's really popular right now but it describes people like David to a te yeah and it's uh there are there's a certain group of men who a lot of people aren't going to understand right because it's so different but to those people it's like those are the National Treasure those are the PE they're the beacon that's like okay that's the goal well most people they don't understand what it's like to really test yourself and to really do something that's difficult all the time I'm doing this thing now where I'm I'm running this boot camp for comedians yeah I've heard of you talk about it so I did it today yeah yeah and so Derek Poston just joined today shout out to my man Derek so Assad Derek Brian Simpson um Duncan Trussell when he's in town he wasn't in town today and Shane Gillis and we get after it and these guys are getting after it that's awesome and they start every day with 100 push-ups 100 bodyweight squats we do five sets and I tell them you can't do 100 don't do 100 you can do five push-ups in a row and you're struggling stop at 5: the whole I'm trying to build a base so I said I don't want you to kill yourself the whole idea here is we're just building a base and we're going to keep going and they've been doing it consistently three this week was four times a week we did it four times this week uh when we were at the Rock we worked out for three hours we
did two hours you start this the boot four weeks four weeks now so they're four weeks in yeah nice and we're very consistent they should be seeing results they're seeing results but they're seeing results in how they feel like almost immediately because I'm not killing them I'm not killing him but when The Rock was here I killed him when The Rock was here I was like we're going to get after it today boys how' that big [ __ ] do he did Prett pretty good except for the mobility stuff like windmills he struggled with windmills and he struggled with a couple of things windmills is that the thing where you do yeah nobody can do those yeah I can do those you can do people can do them do them well they require flexibility but they require range of motion and core strength that that's a real core strength thing but that is a thing those and Turkish getups are they're not sexy like they don't give you big biceps but those apply very well to functional strength like martial arts and things like that like if you got to carry a [ __ ] elk quarter up a hill they they really work for that cuz you can throw stuff around like your core yeah it can manipulate heavy things so I do it with 70 PBS right so I clean and press 70 PBS and then I have this this motion where I'm going all the way down like that and then all the way back I tried it it's it's it works those lower back muscles it works your abdominals it works the the strength and stability of your shoulder it works everything and do you but that's not Turkish getups no Turkish getups is that's even harder Turkish those guys are going to start that next week now they know so Turkish getups is that's what they should be doing with no way right like well I'm going to start them with 10 pounds something I mean just doing it is hard yeah especially when you're doing reps we're going to start they're going to do it with 10 pounds what Turkish getups is you lie on your back you know what it is right you lie on your back you press it and then you get up you get up to one leg you lift it overhead stand up and then slowly lower yourself back down lie back down on the ground again switch hands yeah get up all one leg stand up lower yourself down and you know I'm going to show them the technique how to hip you know hike your hips up you know pop your
hips up when you get one leg up you know so you put one leg up you pop your hips up you get the other leg underneath you and then you stand up but it's not sexy but it's very very very functional and it just breaks you down there is thisy guy back in this gym that I trained it's closed down now was International Fitness but his name is wi will Den witty and he was a strongest guy I've ever seen but he used to do that with 135 like he put the Olympic Bar with the 45s on it and do Turkish getups with 145 my God as an animal oh he also squatted 225 100 times without stop just like Jesus 100 reps I gave him a t-shirt just body weight rep I gave one of my t-shirts this is like 10 years ago and I'm like you earned that I mean just took him seven minutes or something like that is it a keep Hammer shirt or was it nobody cares try harder no I think it was a uh the greater the sacrifice the greater the reward or something like that God damn that's a CRA that's powerful yeah he he a beast but anyway that's where I first saw Turkish get up cuz he would put on I mean he'd be yelling and screaming and putting on a show over there I told my boys they were just starting lifting and I'm like that's the strongest guy in Springfield and nobody knows him really other than in this gym but he's just a freak have you ever heard of Tom havalon no okay who's that this guy's a real weirdo he's a freak that lives in Australia and he does these insane workouts and he puts them on Instagram go to his Instagram and he wears like [ __ ] flannel shirts and jeans and [ __ ] probably count is it I don't know why I mean join it well it's I can't get access to it until he approves it oh [ __ ] H why is he private Tom I think because he doesn't want to be bothered because all he does is this guy's out in the outback [ __ ] lifting homemade weights he's 6'5 I think and he's 300 lb God and Ju Just gigantic I want to see him and the workout that's the guy and the [ __ ] work workouts that this guy does there's not a goddamn chance in hell he passed a piss test I bet his piss melts styrofoam but this guy it's jail house strong is like some I don't even know if he's been in jail but he looks like a guy that you wouldn't want to go to jail
with but I mean he's just absolutely freakishly powerful yeah he is this is like normal conventional stuff but the stuff that he does like on his property he does all this stuff outside so he's got like [ __ ] dogs running around and [ __ ] he's deadlifting 600 pounds and walking around with it he does like freakish [ __ ] and uh he documents it all on Instagram I wish I could show you I wish I could stream it to you Jamie H man yeah he's a stud I know there's some guy that's I love fall guys like that but it's definitely um private so like look at the kind of [ __ ] he does so this is how he works out he works out with like a [ __ ] like a lumberjack shirt on and pants I've seen this guy outside so he's got his he's got the most freakish physique ever and he's got it covered up I don't even know how much weight that is most of the most of the videos are you seeing him 749 749 yeah zerker zerker swats which is insane and he's you see him from behind when he's doing all these things yeah so here he's uh pressing 612 he's benching 6 12 like what the [ __ ] dude and he's just throwing it up there for Reps for five reps 612 and what just wants to be a freak just a freak that's that's the goal just a freak I mean I don't know what his his goals are other than that but I mean some of the [ __ ] that he does is just [ __ ] Insanity look at this deadlift look at the size of that [ __ ] now now imagine also he's 65 God 65 300 lbs and just deadlifting what's he deadlifting there a,3 pounds imagine how good like back in the first UFC's like look at that look at his neck [ __ ] he'd be a perfect guy for the for remember when UFC started yeah but not really ho would have strangled him I know but it' been fun to see him the size of this [ __ ] holy [ __ ] yeah does all his Atlas Stone stuff and he a lot of the stuff he does is like he carries things around a lot which is very interesting he does a lot of explosive training and a lot of just carrying things like see how he's like dragging and he drags him off like so he's got like weight on one side and then he'll switch it to the other side oh he's 67 excuse me 67 [ __ ] gigantic
the guy's so big yeah but you know that's a freak show that like Pride would have liked mhm oh yeah for sure yeah they would have thrown some money on him I mean if you could teach that guy how to fight yeah him vers uh who is that the big black guy oh Bob sap yes yeah yeah Bob sap was 75 lounds heavier than him I know actually what does he weigh I think he was actually trying to weigh 400 lb Tom havalon wasn't he trying to get up to 400 that's a good weight that's total doable God I think he's pushing I think he's heavier than 300 lbs now that I'm thinking about it 35 385 360 36 three what what I think that was a thing that's right now that I'm thinking about it is the road to 400 PBS so he's trying to build himself up I want to see him versus Bob sap but what he does a lot of which is very interesting is like unconventional type workouts like where like he attaches a chain to his right arm and he's dragging behind all these weights while he's carrying a log with his two arms I saw that that was yeah he does a lot of interesting stuff like that that he thinks that that's important like of course yeah like Farmers carries and [ __ ] with insane amounts of weight I've heard that before from many people that not just pushing things and pressing things but carrying them around is where you get real strength yeah you're Rock yeah that's right that rock you guys take up to pixa it works yeah there's something to that there's something to unconventional movements because your body has to cor you know hold and correct your core just gets hammered just like the Turkish getups same kind of thing yeah and that's what it's all about it's just like not being just a lot of people can be strong straight you know just doing pretty uniform movements but when you can be strong out of position awkward things that's real strength that's real strength and I think that real strength also applies to Conventional lifts and that's why God is like this Tom havalon guy can lift insane amounts away also a little bit of Mexican supplements if you know what I'm saying little bit of that maybe [ __ ] yeah oh that yeah and Branch chain amino acids they're very important and milk like Mark McGuire yeah he's probably eating wild Bor milk yeah I don't know
what the [ __ ] that guy eats but yeah it's a huge fella oh my God that's the greatest thing about social media is finding freaks like that you know what I mean and this freak I mean I think that's all he's doing I mean he's not like uh selling things he's not like telling people like hey get a part of my workout program 20% off with code be a freak you know no he's just [ __ ] just a beast and his photos it's very unflattering cuz everything he's doing is from behind you only see his back and he's covered up everything's covered Up's wearing like a lumberjack shirt yeah that's where it's kind of that Sam solic does that too you know who that kid is who's Sam soic dude Jamie you go to look him up he this he's like 21 just a [ __ ] freak but he wears this all this big [ __ ] and we'll do the hardest squats like so much weight deep just freak but then when he takes a [ __ ] off I can't remember what they call it like when you're all covered up mhm and then so you you never let reveal yeah then you never let anybody really see what a freak you are yeah actually I think I've seen this guy before too yeah Sam solic yeah you got to look at him Su s oh Jes look at this dude Jesus Christ he is like young 20s oh I have heard about him because he used to be a lot smaller and then got saage he used to be a a diver whoa yeah like a you know into a pool type thing really yeah I bet he makes a hell of a [ __ ] Splash well now they there is like an old one okay so it was 183 lbs in 200 uh Jack there in 2019 mhm and now what is he way now 237 in 2023 that's crazy yeah that's so crazy that's so much weight and I don't know how I think he's super young he looks young yeah oh so he covers himself up like that when he works yeah like even like show some squats Jamie there's some good um I don't know if he had it on this unless I was I'm looking behind the video there's not a lot of video oh I see interesting pictures yeah I think it's on YouTube 3.6 million follow his YouTube yeah he's got a lot of that's where he gets all his videos well like what does he have yeah 2.3 million subscribers on on YouTube Just from being jacked yeah just a freak though isn't it crazy that just being
jacked could get you millions of subscribers now yeah I mean yeah right so this is what he'll do but he trains freaking hard so he's doing like all kinds of crazy let's watch this crazy a mental battle before this set of squats I think it's worth discussing [ __ ] bro you can hear the steroids of his voice he's Garling in steroids I gu jacked I know but they're I don't know look at the [ __ ] legs on him holy [ __ ] look at his [ __ ] thighs bro that guy must chafe like a [ __ ] he needs some good meundies the kind that go all the way down yeah those boxer briefs keep your legs from rubbing in the center yeah I don't really know what his goal is but be massiv more more massive maybe it's Tom havalon maybe that's his goal these guys you know they want to be when you walk in a room they want people would be like holy like pointing like holy [ __ ] look at this freak well he gained 50 lbs in what four years and he shredded yeah that's crazy yeah yeah you don't do that with oatmeal no you need some help need a little help yeah so I step away usada it's right yeah nothing to see here it's fun to to see guys like that I don't know it is fun I don't want to do it but it's fun to see yeah like that Tom havalon guy I'm obsessed with watching him I think Brian C was the first guy got to tell me about him but he's isn't Brian Gay it's like I'm sure he was attracted to him no he's he's attracted to some men but he's not gay at all he's attracted spiritually to them yeah he's not sexually attracted to them oh yeah to their youbody imagines if he was in prison that he would be with that guy and that guy would protect him yeah and he wouldn't snuggle with him keep him warm yeah he uh spooky dudes there's some there's some people out there doing freaky [ __ ] but man that's a great way to get hurt too try emulating that I mean when you're lifting like very very heavy I don't lift heavy obviously I I'm not big like that I I the heaviest thing I lift is like 90 lbs I occasionally do 90 lb kettle bells I think it's good though cuz he yeah you're not going to do that but you see how hard he's working I mean he's soaked with sweat doing squats oh yeah that's I think
people can be inspired by that and be like [ __ ] yeah hey I need to I'm not going to be a freak but I can push harder also it might make them take a road trip to Mexico to fill up the trunk I don't know I don't know you know Here for a Good Time not a long time well that's definitely the case with folks like that yeah you know cuz a lot of those guys you know those really big guys they have real problems like you know there was that one good uh Rich Piana do you know I know love that guy yeah that guy was ridiculous I still share his like he's got so many good reels too like he just says crazy stuff cuz he's like the one my favorite is he's sitting with this girl and he's like kind of a serious question he's like he goes would you rather have the dick hang lower than the balls or the balls hang lower than the dick H that's his concern that was his question to her interesting yeah well some people worry about stars and asteroids and black holes and aliens and some people worry about balls and dicks yeah so it he has so many funny ones like that he was so freakishly huge oh he's giant he was so stupid he had an8 hour arm workout I know look at this yeah I mean but he was like super open about his steroid use and you know he died from it he died at like I think he was like in his early 40s or mid 40s I think I thought look at the size of his neck his neck looks like there's a tumor below his ear yeah look at the the [ __ ] neck muscles that's so Preposterous look at those arms dude ridiculous he used to do an8 hour arm workout mhm insane I know but insane but I guarantee you no matter where he walked in yeah people noticed him and that was the goal that's what he wanted yeah yeah I mean to each their own I mean I love the fact that it's Freedom you could do whatever you want if you want to be that guy you could be that guy MH I don't want to be that guy but you know he obviously that's what he enjoyed gold 22inch calves Jesus Christ I didn't know he did legs at all that's like a waste oh he did Legs he had giant legs his legs are huge I know I was just so focused on the arms they're Preposterous but they're probably useless didn't he have like an MMA fight
I feel like he had an MMA fight I thought he died from he passed out and hit his head when he's getting a haircut really I think so really thought so are you just putting that out there did you do any research no I don't I don't do much research I thought he had like a massive heart attack or something no I don't it's a lot of how those guys go like everything gets bigger oh yeah yeah when you're taking heart was probably this big too yeah it was probably a basketball superum levels of everything it say how he died collapsed in early August and died after being in a coma for two weeks drug involvement could not be ruled out 46 years old drug involvement couldn't be ruled out crazy yeah I don't know it's uh yeah it's pretty young to die but I didn't know bet if he got vaccinated they'd rule that out signicant heart disease reported and history of drug use oh yeah yeah not good probably never touched cardio no CU that that burns musle [ __ ] out of here with your cardio 20 bottles of steroids found at his house only 20 must have been in between orders yeah Jesus CHR bottles of steroids Jesus Christ buddy yeah that's amazing oh uh that's a have you shot your new bow yet I have not no you're alpha x no I've been too busy unfortunately I'm I was G to take it today but obviously I had some stuff we had to do today yeah but I'm going to take it on Monday go to Archery Country yeah I'm very excited look if it's better than last year's last year's models were better than the year before which I don't know how they keep doing it I don't either but Hoy keeps making better bows every year they're just smoother and more accurate like I shot my um not this this past Year's bow but the year before I shot it one day just for Goof I said let me just pick up my old bow and see how that shoots it wasn't Out Of Tune it wasn't but it was significant like I could see the difference in accuracy and the feel in the hand it was like a little more vibration in the hand a little a little more clunky in the draw cycle and then I picked up last year's bow I was like wow you feel the smoothness of the draw cycle and then it just I was more confident with it it felt more accurate it's crazy how they just keep making
them better I think when you're so dialed in with with your bow and you shoot as much as it doesn't take much of a difference to feel it right you know what I mean you shoot so much yeah a little change you're going to be like whoa it feels like a lot even though it's a little but you imagine being those engineers and you've got to like fine tune every single aspect of these cams and the limbs and the limb pockets and the the Riser and one little thing they did which is pretty cool cuz you know how you have those the little kickstand things the ghost sticks yeah and your last year the cam would sit in the dirt or whatever now they have a little shelf that it sits on even that little tiny that's an improvement improv but that's a big one because I would be looking at where my cam was sitting where the string was kind of rubbing on rocks and dirt and be like God is that wearing through so they they pretty much come up think with of everything to to make it better to tweak to fine-tune and then you feel it I mean the bows this year that that one I just set up they say you know who knows how they I'm sure they measure it but it's 25% quieter I believe and it's I don't know what percent but it's quiet very quiet weird yeah I don't know how they're doing all that I don't either and then there's the factor of heavy arrows versus lighter arrows lighter arrows make more noise heavier hours are a little quieter yeah but not probably not 25% that's a lot no you're uh you are obsessed with art like you're always sending me hey have you seen this have you seen these have you seen these heads have you seen these I mean it's so cool that's a that's kind of the the best part about archery is all the options you know it's just how can I tweak this make it a little better give you a little more confidence is this going to perform better the I mean that's the the chase every day yeah I'm excited about those uh Arrow those broadheads that I just showed you those tooth of the arrow broadheads yeah they I like those cuz they're americanmade and they figured out some way they first of all they cut them out of one solid piece of Steel and they figured out a way to have most of the mass in the feral so apparently they fly really good so Jordan over at Archery Country was shooting them out to
100 he's like dude these are incredible they shoot so good and it's a four blade head so that's good you said four inches a cut mhm that's with the xl's the the smaller ones are a little bit less but it's still more than three inches a cut does the xl's weigh more than 100 grains no they get you can get them in 100 grains 125 I think 150 and 175 and all they're doing is just putting more mass in the feral it's not a bigger thing like so it's still like a heavy Field Point and so the mass goes deep into the arrow and into the front front point it's not in the heads so they Pro and especially with the vented ones they probably won't play or won't much but then you don't have to think about Mechanicals whether not they open or not open or shooting them through grass or any of that kind of stuff so yeah I'm uh I got a hunt with ranella we're gonna uh hunt for white Hil white tails in South Texas for meat eater that'll be fun in a couple weeks yeah so I'm going to I'm going to use those heads okay I'm gon to try them out did you stay with the fmjs or the Axis or are you trying those Pro comps I do not know we are trying to figure out what what what arrows to use we're going to we're going to sort that out actually this weekend didn't okay cuz I'm trying to go a little lighter I'm at 5S I think would be CU mine are 484 the problem is like there's not the best options for lighted knocks with four millimet arrows I sent you like from Gary at Easton that whatever brand he said Halos yeah he says Halos are the move yeah so I'll I'll I'll give those a try um there's also uh fire knocks have you ever seen that guy m i don't use lighted knocks that guy is a [ __ ] mad scientist there's this there's this gentleman who is a I think he was a physicist or some kind of a he's got some sort of background in science and he created this like very high-end lighted knock called a fire knock and you have to it's more difficult to install you have to kind of glue in an insert and then screw it into the insert but they're supposed to be super legit and very very tight tolerances so I might try those out too yeah so fun there's so much to Tinker with I know it's so fun but you got to make sure that you're done tinkering like a couple weeks out so like oh yeah
so like I I'll Tinker up until a certain point then I'm like I'm locked in this is what I'm using now it's time to just practice with that and let's get it all locked in I I had to give up on like I'm a big fan of Garmin I love all their stuff you know I have this Garmin watch that I I love this this uh I just love the fact it's got GPS on it I can put maps on it I can lit literally take phone calls listen to music it's got a stopwatch barometer altitude it's so functional for the it even has a [ __ ] light look at that if you're out in the woods you double tap this [ __ ] bam I got light it's actually pretty bright that's pretty bright I love this how long does a battery last [ __ ] weeks really weeks yeah weeks that's impressive like a month like it'll tell you I think I've got like 25 days of battery life I'm blind from that light right now it's crazy but uh I was running that Garmin site that that um uh they have a rangef finding site right I was having a problem with it though like sometimes at distance I was getting multiple ranges on like an like that uh foam elk Target that I have my yard yeah like I'd be at full draw and I know that it's 74 yards away but I would be getting 82 71 65 and I'm like what is going on here and holding right on it I'm I'm trying to hold right on it maybe I'm moving a little bit but how much am I moving and why isn't it I don't think it's totally I think look I used it last year and I had a perfect shot on uh two white tailed deer and a Neil guy with that with that I liked it but that scared me that I'm getting different ranges so like what if I'm at full draw on an animal and it says 67 but it's really 74 yeah that's a problem and with a 5 22 grain Arrow at that much distance you're going to have a lot of drop a lot of room so I switched before Utah I went back to the spot hog and I went to just using that Loop hold uh full draw which I really like because it shows you the height of your arrow trajectory that's giant man that's giant if you have a gap that you're shooting through and you're like I don't know what the [ __ ] is going to happen here that thing is so dialed in it measures the speed of your arrow it tells you you put in all these different things like how fast your arrow is what your arrow weighs and it'll tell you exactly what's the height
of the arrow trajectory so at the arc so when you range it if and I used it in California because there was a gap that I was shooting through and I ranged it and I knew I had full confidence I was going to get through that Gap because I had that line that showed me the line was like four or five inches below where I needed to pass through and that's perfect too because without that uh Assurance sometimes you're picking a spot but you're still thinking about that [ __ ] where's this Arrow going and that can cause that Focus to falter and that results in a bad shot with so much confidence yeah like you have to you have when you're executing a shot you have to say I know I'm going to hit that thing if you can't say I hope no if you say I hope it oh you're [ __ ] F it's like pool I know there's like I was talking to Joel Turner about that that there's real parallels between archery and pool is that you have to have a shot process that you go through like when I play pool I have a very specific shot process I go through with every shot and before the shot when I'm playing well especially I'll take my practice strokes and then I pause at the back end and drive through with like a a p like I try to use a perfect stroke where it's just the weight of the the weight of the pool que and this the forward Mo motion of the arm is perfectly timed and I'm kind of like allowing that que to do all the work with the the weight of my arm and the stroke and if you don't have that thing in your head like I am going to make this shot if you say I hope I don't miss you're going to [ __ ] miss every time yeah archery you have like a more of a window because like you could say you could put your pin on the Target and go I hope I don't miss but as long as your pins on the target maybe it'll be like 3 Ines here or 4 inches there but pool I'm shooting into a 4 in Pocket from 9 ft away you there's no room for [ __ ] around if you're off that much or more The Q's hitting exactly and then as the distance goes like if you're shooting a seven foot shot as the distance goes if you're off like a half of a millimeter it's going to over the distance it's going to be two inches yeah you're going to be [ __ ] yeah yeah so there's very precise but that's what I love about archery and that's what I love about
pool it's like the arrows don't give a [ __ ] who you are they don't give a [ __ ] where you live what kind of car you drive like it's like are you doing it right yeah there's it's there's no room for [ __ ] right it is you got to be dialed in you got to be prepared you have to have thousands of arrows down range yeah thousands where you know you know what that feel it feels like when that shot breaks and you watch that arrow and we you practice and you know like you know better than anybody we practice in Camp we don't just get to camp and we're done no every time you get a chance we're lined up at the targets and we're shooting at 90 yards it's uh you know it's so hard to gain that confidence or you said you know am I going to do I know I'm going to hit it perfect or do I hope I'm going to hit it perfect so getting that confidence I know I know I'm going to hit it perfect is so freaking hard and can go away like that like that I mean one [ __ ] shitty shot and you're just like oh my God yeah it's I mean that's where archery can be brutal because once you're confidence and you start doubting something that takes on a life of its own and archery has so many factors there's the you know you have your release you have the the sight you have the rest maybe your arrows are touching the rest maybe maybe you've got your the way your pins are set up when you have your furthest distance pinned maybe your fletchings are touching the bottom of the housing string stretch string stretch your string over you have to make sure that when before you go on a hunt you got to bring it in check the chronograph is it still at 273 ft a second oh [ __ ] it's at 265 now my string stretched so now you have to put some twists in the strings and now you have to fire or you have to add a couple yards to shooting yeah there's so much going on and then just the preciseness of these sight tapes is this this it's so amazing how much goes on like when you use archers Advantage you're entering in the weight of the the arrow the the the the length of the arrow like what is the poundage of the bow what's the speed per second that you're shooting like yeah there's so much there's a lot of lot of data going in there but when you execute a perfect shot not even on just on an animal just on a Target just you're shooting at like
75 yards and the shot breaks and you watch that go right in the center like it's a beautiful moment ah I wish everybody could feel that if everybody the word World goes away the world goes away when you execute a perfect shot that's what um I I had a huberman you know down and he was you know he's so intelligent obviously but like an analytical and everything but it's like we're he's focusing so hard at the bow rck just doing everything focusing so hard and I'm like how great is this I said what are you thinking about other than shooting this bow right now and he's like nothing I'm like that's it yeah you that's what's so beautiful about it it's like people say therapeutic and all this but it is because you can't be if you're distracted you're not going to hit anywhere close to what you want or not consistently you might get lucky but it it's one of those things that takes all your focus which is so freeing because then you're not worried about all the other BS of life it's it cleans your mind it's uh it's like Jiu-Jitsu does that too like when you doing Jiu-Jitsu it cleans your mind because you can't think of anything else cuz someone's on top of you trying to yank your arm off strangle you yeah it's like you you have to be completely engaged in in the moment and that's very hard for people to do to find things that keep them in the moment we are so constantly distracted by mostly things that aren't even important like I can't tell you how many times I'm up at night worried about I mean it is a concern but I'm worried about Ukraine and I'm worried about you know Israel and Palestine and I I worry about nuclear war I worry about chaos I worry about the fact they're sending these young men to go and die in these wars and some people are so flippant about it there it's so easy for them and I freak out about these things and sometimes it like it [ __ ] me up because I go to bed with that in my head and I'm like I'm just lying in bed going am I like is this the verge of World War III like if you were living in um some place like right before a war broke out the day before that happens everything's normal October 6th in Israel everything's normal right then all a sudden every everything [ __ ] changes and then the world is chaos world's
upside down you I think you need something you certainly need to be aware of the world but you need to everyone needs something that can take them out of that yeah and I for some people it's golf some people it's pool or something whatever the [ __ ] it is it's running whatever it is but you need something that takes you out of that and allows you to be in the moment what I like this is another part to it but what I like so like with a Superman or with somebody like people will say intellectuals but people who are operate up here all the time I'm never up there so I don't have to [ __ ] worry about it but it's like operating at this highest level of intelligence of of whatever they're at but what I like about archery and hunting is like this is a basic so you can't get up here unless you're down here figuring out what you're going to eat right and how to do it so it's either you can get it all figured out and say well I'm not going to kill [ __ ] myself but I'm GNA could I pay some could you kill something for me and then here's some money right right somebody still has to do the bottom [ __ ] but I think I told Andrew I'm like God if you could obviously you're up here all the time but if you could also understand the bottom what it takes to kill and get out there carry Rock up a [ __ ] Mountain do that that hard gritty lower level [ __ ] and imagine what you could cuz I always say I would love for you to have your perspective to be able to explain what hunting is in your way because I can't I can do it like what I've been doing my whole life right but somebody who who operates up here all the time could also understand the basics of survival God imagine what enlightenment he might be able to shine on why we hunt yeah he would definitely be able to have a very unique perspective with his mind and that's what Peter AA brings to the table you know because Peter has become obsessed with bow hunting over the last few years and he's so [ __ ] fascinating CU he and I will have these conversations where we'll talk about broadheads and this and that all these different things and he'll shoot an animal and then he will make a video where he does an autopsy and he breaks it down and uses terms I don't even understand what the [ __ ] he talking about all these
different yeah you know different types of hemorrhaging and this and that and what what the area of the lung it hit and this is why it took so long for it to die and this is why it died quickly because it severed the arteries and caused massive hemorrhaging and yeah yeah that's super interesting I don't get any of that [ __ ] I mean I get the the major organs and I know what happens if an arrow goes through there but within those organs like you were saying different parts of the lungs yeah it's who knows what and like he's breaking it down as a surgeon even even like with uh huberman we're in the borack and he's like talking about we had it on the lift run shoot episode but he's like he says something like oh like on skateboarding you can switch stance like left foot forward right foot forward type thing he goes can you do that with a bow like left hand right hand and I was like no it's your dominant eye you know you got to use your dominant eye and so he starts to explain why prey animals with their eyes on the side they if you're not moving they can't see you're basically invisible because they have to be able to see that movement and sometimes they'll go like this to like use both eyes whereas whereas we're like depth perception because our eyes on the front we can see movement like this a prey animal can't anyway he's explaining this whole thing it's like you could talk about anything with hunting where I would be like this is black and white oh you do this because of that and then he would have some crazy explanation with amazing detail on why it's this way or that way it's pretty fascinating so I'm like God dang if you could bow hunt and get out there and understand what it means to be you know we're we're a predator hunting prey and just what is that what is that about right you know I just want to hear his take on it because that's his like his superpower is he's 20 times smarter than anybody but can talk where I can understand it yes not all those smart guys can't do that [ __ ] yeah but he can he he's gone through an interesting Journey with broadheads too you know because he oh Peter yeah because he shot a a two blade uh single bevel head and uh did you ever see it no okay I'm going to show it to you because it's kind of crazy when you see it you're not going to believe it um he had
to make a follow-up shot but you wouldn't imagine it when you see this and now so we had this conversation and uh he was saying do you you know like there's there's this thing whether or not you want to have a big cut like you have been using over the last uh few years yeah with um these the ones that you like the Grim Reaper carnor which is a a big cut or would you want to get penetration right I want both yeah so well that's why you shoot like a really uh a really powerful bow now look at the uh look at the shot placement that looks perfect perfect right that he had to make a follow-up shot and was it perfectly broadside yep that is I mean crazy that's right where you want it's in the crease it's perfect perfect height now imagine if you hit hit that thing with a carnor chaos no it's not going anywhere right so that's the benefit does make sense right but he went right through it through the lungs both lungs that is weird yeah crazy you look at it you're like how but I think that's the thing about a small cut a very small single blade or or or you know a two blade rather that slices right through and it's you just get an inch and a half slice right that's it and maybe it can seal up maybe it takes a long time for it to bleed out May I mean yeah whatever it is but when you have something like one of the things we were talking about was these uh these tooth of the arrows so I sent him these images that I got from uh this this is guy named John Lusk and he has these uh very interesting videos where he does all these uh tests on broad heads everything he's got like a whole system to it he's very scientific about it but look at the [ __ ] holes that those tooth of the arrows make that's the ex um for blade which makes through steel through steel 4 in of cut and it makes a canal this this wound channel is not heal sealing up you're going to get blood out of that thing people don't see it that's what it looks like and that's the goal is you know to kill with an arrow yeah it you need Hemorrhage right and him that type of hemorrhage that type of wound channel is going to allow that animal to expire quick I mean it's going to die fast in seconds that that's what we want and also one of the things that he showed in his explanations or
his videos John lus did which I'm very interested about with this tooth of the arrow brought head is that it got incredible penetration too so he does this test where he shoots them into styr or uh layers of uh of cardboard right and I think the this 125 grain one had the record it went through 75 layers or 73 layers of cardboard which is insane that's a lot of layers I wonder how how heavy is Arrow not sure you not sure yeah cuz that makes a big difference differ penetration but it's just he's a standard setup he's a 72b bow if it's the same with every head draw and one's out penetrating the others that something exact regard of what and it has four blades as opposed to two so you're getting double the cut at least yeah I always think that so if you have a two blade and the animal is say 2T wide that's 48 in a cut right if you got four that's 96 in of hemorrhage big difference big difference big difference you imagine a 96 in Cut how much that's going to bleed yeah and it's a channel through the body so if you get a pass through that thing's sprang off both sides and then maybe even more importantly what you do and what I do is we lift weights so we're strong so we can pull back a heavy bow and so now you're shooting a a really powerful 80 plus pound bow that is launched in this 520 grain Arrow at 300t a second so when it does hit is a tremendous amount of momentum and force and it's just boom blowing through everything so when people say you don't need that kind of pull back that kind of weight I've heard that stupid [ __ ] so many times it drives me nuts and it's just people that are trying to make an excuse for why they're not strong yeah well you don't need 60 lbs then cuz why do you need 60 lbs and by the way 60 lbs for you is probably harder than 90 lb is for me cuz work out and what I always say is yeah I shoot 90 you shoot 60 70 I will kill every animal you'll kill if you hit it the same place you won't kill every animal I'll kill yes it's all there's to it that's all there is to it you I'll go through more [ __ ] and still kill it then you will but every arrow that you shoot that kills mine would do the same thing there's no argument that having less power is good it doesn't doesn't make any sense the whole idea is Max maximum lethality and the the the maximum amount of you want a
Humane kill where it kills it quickly and ethically so that means you have to be [ __ ] super dedicated to your practice and I think you should be super dedicated to your Fitness and you should be doing rows every [ __ ] day building those back muscles so that when you do pull back 70 lbs 80 lbs whatever it's not hard yeah it seems pretty simple yeah you know like I there's a video of me uh pulling back that uh 95lb bow that uh Dudley made me that squirrly bow that I had a couple years ago that thing was ridiculous but I pull that [ __ ] back easy yeah I can do I could I lift a lot of weights I lift all the time I'm constantly doing chinups I do weighted chinups I do chin-ups with the 25lb vest I do all these things so yeah so I get ready for it trying to be at your best so like oh you don't need that shut the [ __ ] up [ __ ] I know what you're doing I know why you're saying it you the only reason why anyone would say that is to try to make up for for the fact that they're not strong yeah that's all it is that's it you know and you know Hunters love them love bow Hunters love the whole this whole Community but God we are so judgmental some are I mean and they're a loud voice they it's but it's a small percentage it is but it's like yeah it just doesn't make any sense and it's hard too because when you're so passionate about something people do talk [ __ ] about you you take it like it means something because like God I'm pouring [ __ ] everything I have into this and you're talking it's still not good enough so it's I had this guy the other day he's like why don't you go into the Eagle Cap and and pack in and kill a bull by yourself oh like you did for 20 years oh I mean and it's like you got me thinking it's like you can it's never enough right it doesn't matter it's you wrote a book about that though that's what's hilarious I wrote you literally wrote book I told the guy I said yeah I said I've heard of that area I said I I read about it in a book called back country B hunting I can't remember who wrote it but it's a pretty good book and uh I mean so the point is it's like I've been doing this my whole life I started doing that I've K I don't know how many bulls I've killed from back country do it yourself to now some of the best Elken you know 400 inch bowls done the whole
thing that's still not enough still there's people say well why don't you do this it's like well what the [ __ ] is it ever going to be enough you're going to always hear that though you're going to hear that from everybody no matter what it is and you know imagine if I read the comments on this podcast on any of my podcast like why do you have her on she's [ __ ] stupid why do you have him on he sucks like this is boring you talk this is don't read the this one because it'd be like oh this [ __ ] redneck again I'm like I'm hey guys I didn't I didn't ask I've never asked to be on here have I no you're my friend I want you to come on plus we had to get your stem cells I didn't ask it's not my fault if it was up to me I wouldn't be here a shut the [ __ ] up you like being here come on man it's fine we have a good time no it's I'm just not good at podcasting you are great at podcasting you're full of [ __ ] and now you do your own you're lying son of a [ __ ] good at you're good at it man no I'm not good you're good at it you are good at it it's it's a fun thing to do and look it's not for everybody but this podcast isn't for everybody either yeah it can't be you can't make something for everybody you have to do your best and I think the best way to do your best is to not listen to all the criticism cuz I'm critic you are also as well you're very self-critical we're both very self-critical and I think that's that's important but that's also why criticism hurts because you take it to heart and then you get upset you're like I do so much you you can't make everybody Happ I'm trying my best I'm trying my best guys I really am trying my best and I know you are too yeah I try my best at everything I do and I'm not I [ __ ] up all the time at everything and that is just something you get from sticking your neck out I mean I started bow hunting in my 40s you know and I'm obsessed with it I mean also as a famous person you know like it's [ __ ] you know if you're going to [ __ ] something up that's what I I I I mean it's so impressive because most people don't like they've had success in their whole life you know you earned it of course but you've been at the highest level to start all the way over at something with no experience but it's so exciting
that's the best thing to do most people wouldn't do that yeah but they should yeah I know I know that most people don't like to do that because they like to be they like to be impressive at things because it makes them feel good but what makes me feel good is getting better at things I suck at and learning new things that I suck at is very I can't I don't have any room for any more like right now I'm full I'm all full you know and I'm I'm decent at Bow Hunting now I've gotten to the point where I'm a very I'm very accurate I practice constantly I put in a ton of work I put in thousands and thousands and thousands of arrows every year but because of that I'm confident and I'm good at it I'm pretty good at it now but I'm still not an expert I'm like a purple belt if I I would say like if if bow hunting had had belts I'd be like a purple belt now yeah you know I'm years away from a black belt it's long [ __ ] road you know but I did all that in Jiu-Jitsu the reason why I started Jiu-Jitsu is look when I started Jiu-Jitsu I was a good kickboxer I was a you know a a very high level Taekwondo fighter and then I got into kickboxing I was good at kickboxing I was good at stand-up striking you know there's plenty of videos you can see of me kicking things I'm I'm good at it I was helpless at Jiu-Jitsu I could have easily said [ __ ] this I'm going just go back to kickbox where I feed my ego and I feel good yeah but I was like oh my God I'm helpless like I remember I was uh training with this guy um I had just started out I was a white belt and I think he was a purple belt and this dude mauled me I mean mauled me this Brazilian kid and he wasn't being mean it wasn't like he was like he was destroying me I mean it was so humiliating it was like or one just I was it was one specific training session because what happens when you first start training is initially you will spar with other white belts and you're both kind of clunky you don't really know what you're doing and you're trying to Troke people and you don't exactly know how to do it and you get tapped you tap them and it's like you know it's like yeah you're learning but then as you start to progress you're in a couple weeks or a couple months they'll start putting you in with blue belts or occasionally they they'll even put you
in a brown belt and gen generally the brown belts and the black belts are pretty gentle with the beginners they they'll tap you and they'll give you pointers like you can't you can't put your arm here it's vulnerable you got to keep yourself like this don't extend because that's what gets you in trouble they'll give you tips and it's very valuable because you can learn from oh that's why he did this but this [ __ ] dude just ran through me and it was like one of the first times I had trained with someone who was really pretty good and my my initial feeling was I'm so shocked at how helpless I am like I I was really delusion at all I had this idea because I thought I knew how to fight so that would kind of apply to Jiu-Jitsu it didn't apply at all I mean and so I realized at some point in time I mean during this training session okay this is a long road and I'm on it now and this is what I'm going to do now and even though you know I was on a television show and you know I was doing stand-up comedy and I had things that I was good at that I could just stuck with those yeah I was like I got to get good at this I can't I can't live knowing that guys can do this to me it turns out they could always do it to me like even at the highest level but also as time went on even when I became a black belt I still getting muled by the elite black belts right you know like if I went and rolled with Marcelo Garcia or whenever I would roll with John Jac Machado you just feel kind of helpless yeah so because their level is so much higher than your level that even at black belts there's look at what Gordon Ryan does to everybody yeah he takes the best black belts and make them look like they don't belong there with him and he talks [ __ ] about it before he does it even writes down piece of paper how he's going to tap them and then he he seals the envelope and it to the so he has in his mind I'm going to get him in a triangle and this is the only way I'm going to tap him so all these other things he has to pass up on all these other opportunities he passes up on just to set up a triangle so he's setting it up two three four five steps ahead of them so they think they're doing good and all of a sudden do you ever see him roll with b nickel yeah I did great match great
match Bo nickel's a bad man but he caught him too yeah you call b nickel triangled him that's how good Gordon is but that's the levels and levels and levels and levels and levels but the only way you get that good is time yeah time and effort and it's got to be so rewarding to be Gordon Ryan I mean [ __ ] must be amazing I bet must be amazing to be that guy who stands Head and Shoulders above all the other he gave us the Abu Dhabi belt by the way that's his Abu Dhabi belt it's up in our studio badass love I love how his confidence and his he's awesome he's I mean he drives people crazy yeah but I just love that part well that's also psychological warfare too cuz you're you're so upset that you can't you think I can't lose to this guy but guess what you don't have a choice because he trains 365 days a year yeah his coach is I love I don't even know him yeah I've listened to you talk about him and and listened to him on here and it's like that that is an unbreakable mindset yeah basically well donaher is like a character from a movie movie he doesn't exist in the real world because John Doner was a philosophy professor at colia right who became obsessed with jiu-jitsu yeah incredible and then was like literally sleeping on the mats and teaching people and so he's operating mentally from he's probably got 150 IQ and he's operating at this insane level mentally also just completely obsessed with what is the best way to progress in Jiu-Jitsu what is the best way what what are the what's the road blocks what's holding people up what's holding people back and it's what what they decided at some point in time is that it's not just about training it's about analyzing things it's about breaking down technical aspects of things watching video discussing techniques not just training hard but thinking so the amount of hours they put in a day even though they're training 365 days a year they're they're they're going at jiujitsu five six hours a day well and he watches tape too that's all he does he wears rash guards everywhere John Don I don't even know if he has regular clothes yeah he's a freak I love I love that I love amazing I mean that's the out that's a whole that's an outlier I mean one of one that's what that's what
makes this world so interesting people like that characters like that one of ones yeah it's call what he calls it there's a Japanese term it's called Kaizen can you look that up with the actual term means but it's about the pursuit of excellence in one specific Place one specific Avenue one one specific discipline the constant pursuit of Excellence that's I mean I don't know what is the here it is Kaizen is a Japanese term meaning change for the better or continuous Improvement is a Japanese business philosophy that concerns the process that continuously improve operations and involve all employees Kaizen sees Improvement in productivity as a gradual and me methodical process I think there's other um names for it that don't just apply to uh jiujitsu I think it's I think it's old or or um rather um oh let's hear him say it seven minute video Let's just hear what he says just hear what he says your Instagram uh description said living in the spirit of Kaizen and I was wondering why he's got a Rashard on you always thought about never freak I'm I huge believer in the idea of small Progressive movements towards goals if you look at the course of an average day that we all go through every so often maybe two or three times in your life there's one day which changes the direction of your life but the vast majority of our days are unexceptional they're just a boring mundane mundane day you come home at the end of the day and if someone asked you what happened today you would literally have to think back and be like I I'm not sure um that's probably a description of 95% of our days so there's a chance in which you could drift through your life where only about 1 to 5% of your days have any real meaning and that 95% of your life was a waste of time and that's a tragedy so we have to be very [Music] very set on this idea that we have to maximize the use of all of our days if we're going to amount to anything in life and that means at the end of every day there has to be a concerted look on your part what was the most significant thing that happened to me today and how will it influence my life tomorrow and if we can do this your days become
Progressive most people live day today where the events of yesterday have no bearing on the events of today and the events of today have no bearing on the events of tomorrow and this means your life will simply run in a flatline until the day you die but if we make a concerted effort to build one day upon another even if it's just a very small thing and in most cases it will be a small thing it's rare that we have a day where something Monumental happens most days are not Monumental they mundane so on every one of these mundane days we have to take one small little gem that happened it may not be very big something small and add that to your performance tomorrow and if we can do this over 10 years something truly remarkable can happen um it's so easy just to let a day go and they say I'll try again tomorrow but until we get a sense of one day building upon another towards a goal you'll never achieve anything you'll just melt on and 10 years will go by and you look back and say what do I do and what did I do and it may not be anything significant behind you so be intentional about doing something that's going to make your life better yeah that the whole notion of kaisen is just this crystallizes this idea that if I can improve my performance in any given area of My Life by a even a very small percentage point and then add day by day you get this compounding interest effect where at the end of 5 years something quite remarkable may have happened you may have literally reinvented yourself in 5 years you may have an entirely new skill set which you didn't have previously um and so it's up to us to uh to do this because the natural tendency is for days just to run into each other until by the end of the week you're looking back say what happened this week I don't know like it just gone it's so easy to let that happen there's so many dist actions in life there's so many things looking to grab your attention that you can lose a day a week a month and even a year even a decade um uh and it's up to us to to ask okay well what was significant and how is it going to be built into my life tomorrow and how does this relate to the goals that I have and if you can do this this is the the basic idea behind Kaizen and um uh you can you can do remarkable things and
you can reinvent yourself many times over the period of your life uh it's my belief that it takes around 5 years of full-time training to develop worldclass skills and most athletic Endeavors there are many many examples of people beginning training and uh somewhere between 5 to 7 years after the onset of their training competing at the highest levels of their given Sport and getting within the top five athletes in the in the world there are many many examples of this um that's a clear signal that it takes around 5 to 7 years of full-time training to get to worldclass level in sports um uh with you could extend that into other areas of life you can become in the same time it takes you to win an Olympic uh bronze medal you could become an outstanding day trader um so we you know think about 5 years is not a long time that means me we all have within us this ability to reinvent ourselves many times in the course of our life if you start off at you know 20 years old there's a lot of opportunities for you to to change in that's it well that guy's a a treasure yeah but somebody that introspective and with that perspective and then coupled with somebody like Gordon Ryan this incredible driven athlete no wonder exactly I mean that combination that's going to be tough to beat yeah exactly and thing is they put it out there for the whole world mhm like this is what we're doing like you could do it too and the thing is it's so difficult dedication to apply it's also the focus to maintain that Focus constantly and to have this idea that I need to review all the things I'm doing to make sure I'm doing them better yeah that mindset that's very difficult I mean he's like yeah on such a higher level than most people that's what I keep thinking about like with with huberman talk about hunting it's like I cuz I want I was like I always think about what I'm passionate about is hunting right how can I understand my place in the mountains and as a as a predator and a bow hunter how can I get better how can I get more in tune and I'm always like because it's so easy to be out there and I mean you you are immersed in it and you're in it and you're trying to feel the wind you're the ground under your feet you're trying to like be so in tune but I'm like God is there another level
of Consciousness that maybe I just don't understand and I want to right yeah because I want to be I want to continue I learn something every time and I'm sure you do too out there but it's like I mean I don't know I want to be the best I can be yeah and I think that also comes with many many days hunting mhm and this is a thing that becomes controversial um but people say oh you should only hunt what you eat but I think you should hunt as much as you can and there's plenty of people that you could give that meat to as long as it's legal that's what I do I and I I agree with what you do and I know it's controversial but I don't think they're right I think you're right because your success in the field is unparalleled and I think there's a reason for that and it's because of this intense dedication and drive that you've been doing it for so long but you're still so focused on it you're not relaxed about it at all like you and I have had so many conversations about hun and you've been hunting for f what 35 40 years whatever it is when you and I talk it's like you're [ __ ] locked in all the time about this I'm going to try this I'm doing this now I've decided that this is a new thing this is I've found this Improvement I I made this small adjustment in this and that and then I learned this and this last hunt and this was a a thing that came up like the elk that you shot in Utah perfect example example what uh what people need to understand is even if you're right up close with an elk and say if you have a 20 yard pin so a 20 yard pin really the the arrows not dropping very far in 20 yards because these arrows are going very fast it's only like a couple of seconds to get to 20 yards not dropping very much so you would think that you can shoot an elk that's 6 feet away but it comes up that's the thing it goes off the bow and reaches a peak yeah so that's what happens when it's that close is your eye is here and the arrow is here right so you're you're looking at where you want to hit with that 20 but the Arrow's still down here right it hasn't lifted up yet right so to to hit where you want at like where that bow was which was from here to the door I'd aim up high with the 50 yard pin and then the arrow is going to hit where you want it to right if you hold 20 it's
still low it's going to go off the brisket off the bottom of the chest right I wouldn't have known that I don't know that like you needed to learn that and that's just years and years in the field yeah and well the hardest thing was like it happened like that because I thought that bull he was coming in so I had my sight set on 20 because I knew oh he's coming hot and heavy he was bugling crashing down through so I set it on 20 real quick and I'm sitting there I made a mistake of sitting in the trail but I thought he was coming straight down the Ridge and so I was going to draw back when he was like at 10 yards stop him whack but he hit that trail came right to me and I'm sitting there on my knees in the trail I was up full draw luckily because I I never wait for them to get close I always draw early he was where I am right yeah where you are and so I'm like all this happened in a split second and I and then he was like looking over looking for the you know he heard the cow call looking over and then he's like look down whack he saw you it was second like fractions of a second see if find that video cuz it's but this is a perfect example of this is something that you learn from many many many many many many many many many hunts many days the hard thing there is not getting caught up in the moment because it's so emotional and adrenaline so much adrenaline a giant bull looking looks he's 7 foot tall right there basically and I'm on my knees not getting so here it is sure is this the right one um before that's before I get too far let me see I can no no this isn't it no that's that's this a Roosevelt in Oregon god listen to that sound I know sounds so amazing hey look at jelly roll right there hey jelly roll and Nell I know you know far long uh well it's certainly on YouTube is it in your Instagram yeah it's on uh I think it's on YouTube it's not in your Instagram God I don't think the shot was so it's a very unusual situation but you guys pulled it out too it's like the two yard two yard Utah bull the thing is it's like oh what happened that's my that's my theme song that's Cam hannes by schaer you have a song yeah shut the [ __ ] up no it's a bow hunting song oh my God I got to hear this no play play uh schaer cam hannes who Schaefer an artist
he wrote the song for me you know I don't I think I did meet him at the I think at Utah hunting Expo but he wrote this song and I said I go I said something about it and I'm like man if it's good I could just have it on to start my my lift run or the the uh month in the mountains or my my videos oh the podcast that's what it was example of how your passion can change your life even if that passion is something as obscure as bow hunting bow hunting change my life your passion whatever that may be can change yours live I am the Apex I am a monster when I am hammer and I do not quit I got it from cam I made up my mind I'm about to be better than I've ever been what is the difference between me and you I'll die a legend before I give in it's like every step I take I move my Toth every time they tell me stop I every comment hate that makes my Fu gather up my energy and boom I hear them talking saying the way that I move is so reckless that is a part of my mind been blessed with giving my blood so I am Relentless my fault they want someone to blame they sent their hate it fuels my Pace I am Roy tough I am the change the in dir feeling like that's pretty badass that's you got your own song son yeah so that anyway I have it on to start my podcast nice yeah yeah but schaer he he and he had the tough on there I love that but uh yeah well one of the cool things about Texas is that you can hunt pigs any day of the year and they actually need you to do it and it's it's that experience oh it's so important that exp so that's what yeah oh here it is no that's that's not the that's not the uh see if you can find that uh that shot cuz the shot's crazy that's what said it was oh it said it yeah oh maybe it'll show you maybe it'll show it to you two yard Utah yeah yeah this is it this is the most watched part of the video is the song playing or that's why the song I had to stop okay so here it is so was Rihanna doing the cow calling yeah and she she was behind you in the filming she's trying to film so this bull there's a bull there's comes yeah that's literally as close as you are to me yeah that was uh and then the the arrow I mean he he's down he's already dead yeah but you can
hear him like his last breaths right here I had to I he's looking right on top of me like I was right there down like this and I just had to shoot him in front him I like this part she's so excited oh my God I just [ __ ] called you an I just [ __ ] called you an a she's like she's like I called you in a b I'm like what I called you in a bll I'm like okay can you see him yes you good he went down like instantly yeah yeah 30 yards which in a bull's pace is like literally 3 or 4 seconds yeah I mean he it was crazy how fast he he died but that went right through his heart the shot when you pull the arrow out let's see if you can find uh the image on Instagram you can see the heart yeah this is where it was and I saw him coming right here and I so I went down and I drew like this and then he came and he's running right at me I was right here and you see I hit him right here and there see there's blood this went all the way to right there in the front of his chest self-defense basically cuz there's no other Trail he's he was looking over the top Rihanna was down there filming and cow calling you could have got trampled easily like I shot from there to right here look at this Blood right here and had to hold my 20 up up here to hit him right in the chest almost full penetration then he started bleeding right there and you see on that tree wow I mean he just gushed and he went right to where TR it is perfect shot mhm he went like when you want to talk about lethality and a quick ethical kill seconds see if you can find the image on Instagram it shows the heart with the arrow poking out of it which is wild CU it's got this this Grim Reaper carnor which is this massive four blade Broadhead that just goes through the there it is right there uh it's on a video is it yeah I can't control that oh that's okay you can play it and he's holding up the heart there it is you can literally see the arrow poking out of the heart right there that is that is wild that was a perfect shot yeah so that that Arrow broke you saw I was holding it broke but that was left in the heart right there crazy yeah I mean that's what we want we want those animals you know we're trying
to offer a merciful death that one in seconds 30 yards he didn't know he didn't know anything yeah you know his just lost blood pressure done yeah this as merciful a shot as you could ever give yeah and and as you mentioned earlier about the me so you know yeah I killed four Bulls this year and don't I don't want anybody to ever think that any of that meat is going to waste I mean there's so many people who uh love Wild game meat especially now when you're you people are more conscious about where their meat's coming from and to get something that I killed I took care of myself you know it's we know exactly where it came from that's like that's valuable that means something and it's also it means something you know when people you know as we say people go order a burger or steak or whatever they get full and they say I'm stuffed at too much bread I'm done with this so half that steak goes back to the kitchen that was a [ __ ] life right that was a that life doesn't mean [ __ ] to you but that bull right there that means a lot to me and when I give that meat to somebody that means something this is like oh yeah this is a bull I killed on Utah I hope you like it that [ __ ] means something you're not going to send that you're not going to throw that [ __ ] in the garbage because you're full right it it means too much there's reverence to it that's what so yeah I kill multiple bowls but that that is the the greatest part of being a hunter and a provider is sharing that with your community I love giving it to people I give meat to a lot of people and I love seeing the images they send me pictures of like hey look I cooked this it's awesome cool and then you know the it's so delicious too I mean Wild game I've said it so many times but if you could try some of the elk that I cook you'd be like oh my God where can I get this well you got to go hiking you got to learn how to shoot a bow or a rifle you have to find someone who's willing to teach you you have to you know you have to put in work what I love about I mean there's so much I love about sharing our lifestyle but when I have people come in for the lift run shoot is they train with me they learn how to shoot a bow and everything but then we always have elk chili oh nice and like uh huberman came in I think he had three bowls of it and I'm like yeah
this [ __ ] is [ __ ] fuel this is real fuel yeah you know and this is a bull I killed you know I think that was from the Arizona bull that I this is actually oh last time I had my bling on Tanner made this oh that's from the ivories so he he filmed that bull I killed um and it was the biggest bulll he's ever seen you know is you know giant Bull and so he made a necklace for himself and made me one last time I had the CH gold bling so now I'm like well we'll offset that with an ivory but uh well you know Elks used to have they used to have tusks oh yeah I think they did yeah yeah that's where it comes from that Ivory at one point in time was a massive Tusk that Elks used to have and then they evolved it's so cool it's so cool just like I mean you know bow hunting especially well not just elk anything but it it means so much yeah and it's it's like it's it's who I am you know so when it's something that that is that meaningful and you can share that um another example of that was I took cat Bradley she's a elite Ultra Runner and she killed her first buck and it's like the the most special part I haven't made a film on that yet but uh is she we had to run we had to do the stock and the rain hustle she made a perfect shot um we had to pack that she she had some weight on her back packed out this steep hole worked her ass off it was just like the perfect time then we took care of the meat did everything got up the next morning we're in this little cabin and uh made uh Tinder loins cut that up cook the Tinder loins eggs hash browns and bacon and it's just like can you I mean after working your ass off on a hunt killing a buck having a meal like that listening to old country music radio just like crackling on this AM radio that was in that cabin it's like I I don't know if there's anything I'd rather do in life I swear to God people could offer me anything and I'd say I'd just rather have this morning right here this this experience it's cuz it's earned it's it's it's real yeah and when we were out there in the mountain and standing in and we were [ __ ] soaked it was pouring she killed this buck and I had you know me and my buddy Kevin broke it all down gutted it we had to actually skinned it and quartered it up right there to pack it out cuz in such a hole but I'm like looking and we
were just soaked and freezing and I'm just like this is life this is this is how life is supposed to be all this other [ __ ] all this around here that's not [ __ ] real this is real right out hunting killing what you're going to eat and packing it out of the mountain that's [ __ ] real and earning it you earn that and it's everything else is like a distraction over real life that's why that buck is on the table that's the first animal I killed with Steven Montana I I remember that just from hearing you talk about it and how meaningful it is your first buck in Montana and you I don't you didn't make a great shot did you yeah it was a good shot but I had a I had to do a followup shot he went down but he he was spined oh okay that's what it was and I made a follow-up shot and you could see the follow shot on the video where it's like the intensity moment remember I haven't even seen that that I haven't seen that show but I remember that's now that's stories you remember cuz that's real yeah it's real and you you ate that didn't you guys cook it we ate it that night we ate the liver with liver with onions that night while Brian Ken pulled thorns out of my thigh because uh I when I got down prone to make the shot I laid down right on a cactus and I just caed his Thorns all over my leg like I I had like [ __ ] 40 thorns in my leg and and it was hilarious cuz like we're by the campfire and I'm going like this I got my pants down and C's got [ __ ] pliers and he's pulling thorns out of my legs um we we cooked the liver we ate the liver that night and then um we went back cuz we I shot it late in the afternoon so we gutted it hung it uh got the organs out and then brought the organs back to the campfire and cooked the liver that night and then we went back the next day cut the buck down in the morning and then uh ate it for dinner that night and then when I when we were eating and I was like this is what I'm doing now that changed your life did 100% 100% but it's so hard to get someone to get you to do that it's so hard first of all it's so hard to find someone who has the knowledge who's willing to take you and teach you like and I'm forever in debt to Steve and to you for doing that but to also to want to do that
and to to have I mean we were camping it was 9 degrees outside it's [ __ ] freezing in Montana you know we're on the Missouri breaks it's you're just walking through these intense canyons and but it was it was so difficult that when we did have success the feeling of elation and joy it's very difficult to describe a lot of people they see these um videos of a hunter making a shot then going like yeah and they go what where is the spirituality where's it like you don't understand how hard it is to do that and the joy is in the fact that you made an ethical shot and the animal is down like I had a a hard hunt in California we went like uh five six days put in tons of Miles every day you know 10 10 miles 8 Miles 11 miles going through the mountains and then when I finally shot that bull and he dropped he was dead in 10 seconds it was like a perfect shot I [ __ ] cheered so loud that Evan and the the guys like Evan Evan haer from Black Rifle coffee who's hunting with me they were on the other side of the mountain and they heard it heard you cuz I just went wow yeah and then you know me and uh my friend biscuit we hugged and it was like holy [ __ ] man we did it we did it and it wasn't like I'm happy that this animal is dead now it was like no we were successful I know how hard it is to do difficult to do there was so much adrenaline and tension involved and had to make a great shot and I did it and so all that hard work all paid off at the end it's like all the Reps all year it wasn't just that hunt yeah it was like all the the Reps the thinking about it the envisioning that moment I think about it all the time dude I think about it when I'm at the UFC I'm at the UFC I'm about to call a fight and I'm thinking about like perfect shots I'm thinking about shooting in between branches of trees I'm thinking about like wind and [ __ ] angles and it's well I mean it means means so much to me like so on that deer hunt that I took cat on I there's access to this Timber comp company land I pay for that right so I'm paying $4,500 each and I take two people and it's just like I don't even care if I don't even tell them how it costs money right I just want to do it because I just want to be out there with somebody a new Hunter and share my world with
them yeah and it's I pay just so I'm like no I can I can take them we can you know I can uh expose them to the hunting Lifestyle the way I want to on this it's a warehouser land this Timber Company land and uh it's maybe it'll change our life maybe it won't but I know I'm going to gain from sharing that with somebody and that that means everything to me I just you know and you filmed it too which is awesome yeah which is great so people can watch it and see like the real moments that you guys had together and even if she never does that again that experience she will keep with her forever if that hunt that I had with renell was the last hunt I ever had I would still be telling people about that today oh it was awesome we're in the campfire we're freezing our asses off like eating this this animal that we had just shot and eating it cooking it over a fire a campfire and it was so satisfying yeah it it ignites a part of your DNA that you didn't know existed there's a hunter gatherer aspect to whatever it means to be a human that kept us alive for thousands and thousands of years and that's inside you yeah and you don't know what inside you until you put an animal on the ground you eat it and you're like oh my God it's like the way I describe it to people most people have been fishing there's a feeling you get when you catch a fish when you hook the line like whoa and you feel it fighting it is inside of you that like this is going to feed me and my family now this is going to feed my loved ones this we're going to survive and that's why it's so exciting because it ignites this thing that was impair erative for human beings to make it to 2023 you might be able to go to [ __ ] HB and just buy a ribeye that's great nothing wrong with that but the reality is that was not always the case and for us to get to 2023 it had to be people that were doing that [ __ ] with bows and arrows that they made themselves they had to knock rocks to make this where's that front there right here this is a real [ __ ] Arrowhead that the comm's used from right here this is from right here I love this I love the history of probably sent that Arrow into a white tail and then it probably passed through and dug into the dirt and then someone dug it out of the dirt hundreds of years later yeah that's
incredible and it's in pristine condition and this was made by some person who painstakingly crafted this so that they could eat that is a perfect head tooe [ __ ] amazing this thing's amazing well but it's like when you I don't know people who might not think hunting's for them maybe it's not but when that happen and you do kill There is almost like the curtains pulled back and you're just like holy [ __ ] yeah this is this is this is how this is survival yeah and you didn't know it because that curtain's been closed right until you were that's why it's so meaningful to me I I buy those two hunts every year and my goal is to always take somebody new you know just cuz it's like I it's it's for me it's not for them but I can like twist it into like it'll help both of us but I just it's enjoying the process of seeing someone experience it for the first time cuz you only experienc it for the first time once once I love it and it's a cat was perfect for that because she got it you know she it meant so much and like that's what you want because well obviously she's someone who understands sacrifice and hard work yes definitely more than anybody mhm yeah and it it was uh I'll never forget it it was I seriously think it was the best hun of my fall that's awesome I mean I had I had some great hunts but that's just that's just what hunting That's The Power of hunting yeah and and being part of a I don't want to say tribe because like people throw it around but um that's a good word it I think bow Hunters the ones who aren't [ __ ] they are a part of a tribe even the ones who are [ __ ] they're in the tribe they just have ego problems yeah it's just wasted energy yeah it's wasted energy like if you want to be upset at someone be upset at the people that litter yeah be upset at the people that leave garbage at their Camp be upset at those people because that's not cool don't be upset at fellow Hunters right don't be don't be upset at someone who's trying to spread this message yeah and then there's the dumbest [ __ ] people that don't like the fact that the trail heads are getting crowded now because so many people are getting into this well find another trail head stupid there's a lot of Trail heads you can go all over the place you can just with a little bit of research there's all these Maps as
onx hunt and go hunt and [ __ ] hunting fool there's all the places you can get resources to find different places to hunt at the reason why people like that get a little traction is because there's a lot of people who don't kill every year success is you know it's most people fail so when people fail they're looking for an excuse so if this guy or whoever it is gives him an excuse like oh yeah too overcrowded because of Joe and cam talking about it all a sudden they're the victim and like they got other victims who didn't weren't successful so like yeah we're all the losers we can gang up together talk [ __ ] about these guys dude we get that here in Austin there's local Austin Comics that hate on the mothership cuz the mothership has brought in 15 worldclass comedians in town it's harder for them to get spots now guess what stupid this is the greatest opportunity you've ever had in your [ __ ] life if you rise the occasion we'll put you up and make you famous [ __ ] yeah like come on man we want you to be good we don't want you to be floundering in this [ __ ] this area of mediocrity that you've been existing in for so long like yeah the big boys are in town it's good it's good for everybody and people with hunting they like to talk about that everybody should have the same opportunities it's like almost like making it uh hunting socialism yeah you know what I mean right and so well if you if you work your ass off shouldn't you get better opportunities than somebody who doesn't do anything of course I mean but but if and also the guy who kind of coins this thing about um whatever everybody have the same opportunities it's like he has a great job gets tons of vacation doesn't he have an advantage over a guy who works in a mill who gets [ __ ] two days off a year well there's a lot of people that complain but yeah I know what you're talking about yeah there's it's just complaining is a normal part of human life when you're looking at other people's success and trying to find flaws in it but it's very bad for you and that's what people don't understand it's not productive it doesn't help you and you could disagree or agree with people's approaches you could think that everyone should only hunt on public land you could you could have all these ideas and and you could
debate those opinions and you're more than welcome to the problem is when you look to criticize instead of look at the good side of things there's a lot of good to this there's a lot of good to what you do it's more good than anything there's I I see no negatives the the the educating people about the value of this is very good and during covid that's one of the the real times where people realize like hey this food Chain's kind of fragile like I went to Supermarket there's no [ __ ] food like Duncan texted me um he was at a supermarket in North Carolina where he's living and he's like dude there's no meat there's no [ __ ] meat he goes I got to learn how to hunt I was like wow that that is a moment when you have children and you have a family and you start realiz like we we might not have nutrition and they're looking at you and you're the leader of the family and you're like going what the [ __ ] am I going to do right and now you realize like oh my God I need another skill I'm susceptible yeah yeah I'm yeah we're all vulnerable and you know obviously for the most part we're not obviously for the most part we do have supermarkets we do have food and that's all great and everything but we're trying to tell you that there is another way that's vastly more rewarding it might not be available to you because you might not have the time you might have a job that requires you to work 51 weeks a year then you have a family and a lot of obl obligations and I understand but don't hate on people that can yeah exactly it's stupid it's it's just a waste of your time it's a waste of everybody's time and you're just going to get a bunch of losers that like you yeah cuz they're going to be like yeah social ism's awesome I know it's it's crazy it's uh yeah I don't know I feel I feel I mean it's one reason why if we can educate people like when Andrew comes or like the other quote outliers who I've had on who might not be Hunters but can go and take these the lessons archery teaches you and maybe we talk about hunting and then they go back to their peer groups or whatever it is their constituents and they're saying well actually I did learn this about hunting and and so and your podcast has done that obviously you know educated so many people who don't know anything about hunting on the
benefits to it but it's um I I don't know it's so important um and and we're not saying everybody needs to hunt but just have a just have a uh honest take on it yeah and I think that there's real value in doing something that's very difficult whether it's hunting or ultramarathon running or jiujitsu or whatever it is that you choose to approach There's real value in doing difficult things and the thing that about bow hunting that makes it so special to me is that it requires so much of you and so that when you are successful it's so rewarding it's it's insanely rewarding it's rewarding on a different level that most people don't understand and many people never get to experience in life they get never get to experience that moment where you have to make this split-second decision and you're drawing on an animal and you you have one Arrow to make this happen yeah you have one arrow and it might be 65 yards away and you and that [ __ ] pin's moving around you got to settle that pin and settle your heart rate and and you have to be confident in your training and then release that perfect tarot and when you watch it to this day one of the happiest moments of my life was you and I in Utah I know it's the picture right we have right out here that photo with that that elk was 67 yards and you're like draw back draw back take them buddy and it just you see that arrow with that lighted knock just sail andap and hit perfectly God and you know if you didn't know how much that meant and how much pressure that was and how how much was writing on it we were like smiling and hugging and I love you and like if you didn't understand You' look at that and go what is wrong with these guys right right but it's there's so much writing on it yeah and so it's just that you know you achieve this Monumental goal with somebody sharing it with people you care about because Colton was there too yeah and uh it's I mean until you've been there it's you probably shouldn't criticize because if you were there you'd understand it's hard for people to understand also because a lot of people's exposure to hunting has been hunting television shows right so if you watch a television show basically they're preaching to the the converted already and they're doing these shows
for other hunters and who are going to understand this and they're condensing a seven eight n day trip into 22 minutes M and out of those 22 minutes like there's 35 seconds 45 seconds of the shot and the animal running away and then dropping and then everybody cheering yeah and it's just a disproportionate experience for people that are watching it you're not getting how hard it is you're not getting the 8 10 miles in the mountains with elevated heart rate how exhausted you are at the end of the day when your legs feel like Rubber and you're pounding electrolytes and you're [ __ ] eating like a starving person and then you look at your watch like I better go to bed right now I got to get up at hours sleep yeah I got to go to bed right now and then you get up and you do it all over again you drink some coffee and you get out there and you you know you check your site you check your bow let's go you know and people that have never experienced that they're they're they're not going to understand it m but I think you do an amazing job of of relaying it to people where they kind of get a glimpse without actually experiencing it they kind of understand it from your passion from your your ability to explain it your ability to like be like totally honest about the emotions and the feeling the dedication the hard work and what's required of it it's not a [ __ ] easy thing to do and even rifle hunting rifle hunting is not easy it's easier than bow hunting but it is not [ __ ] easy it's hard yeah it's uh you know that presentation especially nowadays is important and I I I was reminded of this you know went and trained with Rich Ronin in Nashville and uh he's bow hunting too now right he's bow hunting but he killed a bear with a rifle in Colorado and he put up he's getting death threats and everything because he's a CrossFit you know world's fittest man four times he's a complete freak but he's like been enamored with hunting now and so he killed this bear this year a big bear in Colorado Big Boar and uh he had a picture because he worked his ass off he got you know didn't kill a bull I think the last two years uh killed a cow with a rifle but just you know how hard hunting is and he's just trying to learn on his own out there and so he gets this bear killed he's happy
he's got a picture of this big bear and a big smile and I just told him I said that is hard that's hard for people and I learned the hard way it's like I made the same mistake too so now I build the story I share you know the exper the animals out there the country out there I don't sh share the kill shot till after I've shared breaking it down and the meat and what it means and then at the end of all that you'll see the kill shot but because he's a new Hunter and he's just was fired up he's a big smile with that bear and that's the post yeah and he no fault of his like anybody would do that but with social media it's like they'll crucify you if that's all all and especially with the bear and I told him you know obviously he knows now I didn't have to tell them anything but bear and lions it's a rough one you you better be explaining that whole journey yeah before you get to that kill shot and you know I feel bad because nobody wants to read that you know they want to kill you or kill your family because you killed some animal but um it's it's just I've learned over over the years it it's I mean you just there's so many people like my page will get to 30 million people in a week there's 14 million Hunters that means most of those people aren't Hunters I better be explaining part of it to them too you know and so that's the ODS are that all 14 million Hunters are looking at it that's small too yeah so it's probably only a couple million Hunters right right most of it it's probably non-hunters right so it's like we have to think about that like his group a CrossFit group of course they all eat meat you know you can't have that muscle but they still don't hunt so it it's like that dance of explaining and now he's so enamored with it like most his podcast now are hunting so people are like wait is this are you the CrossFit guy or the Hunter and like he just loves hunting now it's all he thinks about well he's a strong man you he's got a strong mind he can navigate this but that is a oh he's fine with it he's fine a great message to way you uh describe the way you have a process for it and I've seen your process evolve over the years yeah where you realize like okay let me lay this out in the best way possible where it's going to
people are going to really understand as much as they can from social media press because without a podcast and people talking without videos of you actually being and the video literally should be eight days long you know the video literally should be the amount of time an accurate portrayal yeah or at least a day like you should see like what's involved in the stock and all that stuff like nobody would want to watch it CU it [ __ ] takes forever before everybody wants to cut to the chase like when do the elk come into the canyon when did you see it when do you when do you make the stock yeah like even that um most people wouldn't show like on that Bullock Hill in Arizona I hit a little back and I caught the the lung and the liver and he went up and I thought he was going to go die right there I thought at first it was perfect till I looked at reviewed the footage but I had shoot him again most people making hunting TV wouldn't have showed all that they would have showed the one shot went up to the animal dead yeah I wanted to show that you know there's it weighed it was like killing me seeing that animal not not dying like that because I and then a bearer went walked right below him got him up he was on the verge of death a bear got his adrenaline jacked up again and then he moved off like 30 yards and I'm just like God it was just killing me so I took my boo sof snook up there to 72 and shot him but that was real yeah and most people don't see real because we've we've watered down what we show on TV to make it fit this oh you know made a good shot animal died after 50 yards and seconds that doesn't always happen unfortunately well and also like just the consumption of meat in general most people have never been to a slaughter house most people have never seen including me I've never seen a cow get a bolt in the head yeah it's terrible and I've eaten so many cows it's terrible it's the process used to be absolutely normal if someone saw that you had venison and you described the kill they're like yeah that's what you do that is how you get venison that is the only way to get our meat and everyone did it forever until the last 100 years which is so crazy that it's become controversial over the last 100 years only now and we have other option places it's not normal to hunt but yet
the average consumption of meat is very high like the UK or Brazil and Brazil I have friends that have posted photos you know that are uh from all around the world and they get hate from these people from Brazil which they're famous for steakhouses yeah I know Brazilian bra Chas are amazing all the meat you want yeah you literally all you can eat meat and but they don't have a history of hunting so because they don't have a history of hunting they don't understand it and they don't they don't why would you do that when you could just go to the supermarket and I and I say that it's terrible with the the cow with the bolt through the head I just feel bad I I don't like watching even the animals I kill I don't like watching them die yeah I don't I I love animals so when I say it's it's it's awful for the cow it's just I feel bad for it that's it that's it I understand it has to happen I mean I kill myself but it's like doesn't mean that I enjoy the Act of Killing no no one enjoys the act of killing you enjoy the success and the meat and the fact that it's done quickly and cleanly and you know we've been guilty of this before like kind of kind of uh um mentioning uh factory farms and not giving credit to ranchers that that do it right so it's not like every cattle operation is terrible I've had a bunch of ranchers on to sort of try to correct that and explain to people so it's not that when I said it's terrible I don't want I don't want any negative because there's some great ranchers out there and beef is like the staple of of of uh the meat that we eat here in this country so it's we' got to do it right yeah but it's just a symptom of the culture that we live in that most of the time it's not done right that's what's so crazy what's so crazy is people like uh my friend will Harris who runs White Oak pastures I saw that book right there yeah he's amazing and he's so I mean that guy really really put in effort it took him 20 years to convert his family farm from an industrial Farm to a regenerative Farm it took immense resources and time and they knew it was going to make them less money and he still did it and he did it and he's out there preaching the gospel and telling people that this is the way nature is supposed to be handled and that what he
does at his farm which is an amazing place is he recreates nature in a contained environment and these animals all live naturally the pigs live naturally the chickens live naturally that I mean he was explaining the entire process of it it's incredible it's incredible and it's very difficult to do do what and what he's done is pretty amazing and he has friends that are running these industrial Farms that are right next to him and the difference in the impact when you see like the impact that it has on the the river system that he has near him like the difference between his River with a runoff from his farm which is nothing to the one next to it just like completely pollutes the river and there's no there's no regulations on that there's no regulations on how much herbicides and pesticides and [ __ ] industrial fertilizer just gets washed into the streams and chokes the fish to death no no one's paying attention to that he's doing it right that guy's doing it right and kudos to him and they and I try to highlight those people as much as possible it's him or Joel Salon who runs polyface farms and there's a bunch of great regenerative ranchers in here right in Texas and you know we get Rome Ranch and we you know we get a lot of our meat if we buy steaks we try to get it from those places it's just I'm getting [ __ ] hungry I'm getting hungry too yeah I do before we wrap up I got to say one more one more thing okay we got to we got to give credit to Jelly Roll I love that guy love jelly roll no we talked about him last time and I think we even listen to his songs but I finally saw him live oh he's amazing at the Aubrey he was like the [ __ ] I mean I could if I think about how nice he is I would I could almost I I don't want to say I'm G to cry but it's like he is so nice dude he's a s he treated me like family yeah I mean he was we went out to dinner and then even after the show he was just like he goes what what' you think of my family I mean he cares yeah he is such a big-hearted person and I'm it was amazing how welcoming and kind and thoughtful and puts on an amazing show talks to the people like makes people cry when he's talking to him in between songs CU he's so heartfelt yeah he's
been through so much but he's like like I don't it was you and him and Nelly that's awesome and I don't know how you know I don't know how he was back in the day you know but all I know is I know he made mistakes I know he's been in jail I know he's whatever but now I don't know a nicer more I don't know a better person yeah he's been through a lot he's he's inredible came on the other end an amazing person he's [ __ ] nominated for two Grammys I know C what a journey what a journey I mean I just just look at him like you would never look at that guy when you hear him sing you're like whoa no and what you know Tanner mentioned this too he's when people first see him they're like oh you know he's got tattoos on his face Tanner says after you get to talk he goes you don't even see the tattoos right you see you see this this pure Soul yeah and like T what tattoos I [ __ ] don't see [ __ ] so like you get distracted by that first but when you talk to him and realize you know what a loving person he is you're like I don't see see anything I I see just this big-hearted man that's the same thing with post Malone yeah yeah you got to meet him he's amazing I love that dude to death he's so [ __ ] talented too we saw him perform in Houston my wife and I flew to Houston to watch one of his shows really oh was and then we hanging out with him afterwards he wants to play Magic the Gathering I don't know those artists I just I don't know there's different people but they're so I don't know it's is pretty inspiring yeah he's very inspiring when he gave me that platinum record and we posted out there you saw it believe I did incredible a great gift well here and here's another thing too he said when he was a kid he used to dream about having records like that you know like have it all and and he goes now he goes now he goes what I want so we went to the show at the Opry but then the next day I I had to go oh train with Rich but then he said you know can you meet for lunch at so house or whatever and I said yeah so he's like I want you to sign my book he's like because or your book he had my endure book and he's like I used to think that I wanted records on the wall he goes but now I want a book signed by you that's that's what I want and he had like gloves from uh I think a fight um I can't remember
whose gloves like UFC gloves but it's like it's that's what means something to him now not the personal accolades right but I just God I can't I can't talk enough positive about that guy such he's such a warm Soul the first time I met him I met him at the mothership he came there to see uh Ron White and I was uh that was when the club had first opened and I was kind of there just hanging out making sure everything was running right because we had just gotten open and then uh they said hey jelly rolls here to see Ron White and then uh you know where the Green Room is at the club he was coming up the stairs and I was walking out and I saw him and he just goes what's up just big giant hug I'm like oh my God this guy's everything I hoped he would be he's amazing uh there's beautiful people in the world man you know he's one of them they change the way you feel about the way you interact with people and I he he makes me I I that's what I said when I got home it makes me want to be a better person yes because I saw how he treated everyone like there'd be people on the sidewalk and there'd be like you know these little old old women and are not old probably my age [ __ ] what am I talking about but like so like caught off guard like oh my God Joey roll's here and he's like what's up mama how you doing how you doing tonight give him a big hug just like looking him in the eye and just the sweetest person just some some person walking by yeah because that's a guy where life gave him a [ __ ] terrible hand and he got through it and he came out on the other end and now he's amazing you know now it's like this amazing journey that he can like really truly appreciate every aspect of it and he's so good at expressing that he's so good at spreading that love love spreading that positivity and it really does make you want to be a better person it makes me want to be a better person both him and post they make me want to be nicer to everybody I yeah I've never I try real hard to be nice to everybody you do a great job you do you do an amazing job but it's like you don't do as good as him no it's like there's there's levels there's levels to everything it's just like his I think his eyes are just so kind too cuz it's like what I see and we said the last time but like you see the
pain he's you see pain in his eyes still a little bit yeah or I do yeah and or I don't know you see it in his music you hear it hear it you hear it for sure you can't be that Soulful unless you've experienced some dark dark dark times I mean there's some you know there's some magic to the way he sings that I just don't you don't get that from a trust fun baby you get that from a hard life man and coming out on the other side as this like beautiful creation of love and and creativity and that's that dude that's the real thing man you know that's not an act that's him 247 and it's amazing and it's very inspirational and it's it's very good for everybody it's good for everybody it's for good for everybody he encounters he was like you know he was so busy after the show and they had to do a promo stuff at at the after the opery so we took off and then he told me he's like he goes oh he goes I didn't you know I didn't get to say good by to Tanner I took Tanner to the show and his girlfriend and he's like I said I think he said goodbye he's like oh I didn't give him a like a good hug to say goodbye it's like I mean thinking about even that I know just about my son is just there he is his speech at the end oh did did you see let's play this we we get end with the speech cuz his speech is [ __ ] incredible um I think it's C up you got a second and I'm I'm going to say a lot and I'm sorry but the quickest I can say it is thank you to the label Stony cre management John L but Joe Jamie you saved my life country radio what's up baby I got a thousand people to thank you but most importantly my Lord and my wife I love you so much you changed my life baby Megan Parker Haley I love all y'all we're friends and Zack Brown I think you were one of the hottest things on Earth not just country music you deserve this as much as anybody else I love you I'm glad we're sitting there partying the rest of the night baby but most importantly there is something poetic about a 39y old man winning new artists of the year I don't know where you're at your life or what you're going through but I want to tell you to keep going baby I want to tell you success is on the other side of it I want to tell you it's going to be okay I want to tell you that the windi is bigger than the
rear AAS because what's in Fr of you is so much [ __ ] yeah a preacher I that's what I told him a preacher I said dude if this music thing doesn't work out you could be a preacher 100% you should cuz we prayed before or at dinner and then before a show and it was just like the most incredible prayer I've ever ever heard and I'm just like this your calling might be a pre to be a preacher well he's kind of doing it through his music and it's reaching more people that way so powerful I love that guy I love that guy too I love you too likewise all right [Applause] [Music] [Applause] everybody