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the Joe Rogan Experience. I'll be all right. Um, the book's called The Disaster Diaries: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Apocalypse. And, uh, it's really [ __ ] interesting stuff, man. And you went you went really deep with this. You covered so many aspects of the whole idea of survival and the whole idea of like really chaos situations and controlling your adrenaline and relaxing and how most people really have no idea that like when the [ __ ] hits the fan, most people are just literally going to like shut off. Yeah. They're going to [ __ ] their pants and shut off. And that is a much more common reaction than not. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, it's so interesting to see that like, you know, a lot of people don't know what they don't know. You know what I mean? And that's that was kind of so one of the major, you know, sort of things I took from this book was what stress does. You know, you and I, you know, you've been in the fight game for a long time. And I'd written about the fighter mind and stuff. And I was shocked at how, you know, the Cooper's color code wasn't talked about in the fight game. You know what I mean? Which, you know, it's a shooting thing. Explain the Cooper code. It's in the book. the Cooper's color code, which anybody who who does any shooting will know about, but but it's basically Jeff Cooper was a very well-known firearms instructor in the 60s and he came up with this color code about your sort of alertness level and you know, white you're at home kind of off or listening to music or watching TV and then yellow you're on the street and uh orange you're you know, you're sort of seeing maybe possible danger and then red you're fighting and that was how he sort of quantified it and then the Marine Corps later come up black, which was the catastrophic failure of your mind, basically like the total breakdown. And it was just so interesting to sort of, you know, I've been sort of hearing about this anecdotally, and I'd seen it with fighters. Um, you know, guys freezing or just doing dumb [ __ ] over and over again. You know, it's not working, but they can't stop and they're getting punched in the face. So, that's definitely not helping their there. But, you know, the fact that I mean, I'm sure some of these trainers knew about it,
but nobody had mentioned, you know, there's this huge raft of data and uh research that's been done on on on stress and what it does to your body and and uh it wasn't, you know, really being utilized in the fight game. But you had Kimbo in [ __ ] side control. You worked to get it. You got it. You were in a dominant position. He was tired and they stood you back up [ __ ] Gary Shaw said we did a um a radio interview, you know, where everyone's on the other line and I was just finished training. So I'm on the phone and one of no one was asking me [ __ ] any questions. Um and I thought, yeah, I'm just the guy Kimbo to beat. So and then the someone asked Gary Shaw a question and they said, um this is how he was holding the phone. Um they asked Gary Shaw the question. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Just uh I did emphasis there just in case you couldn't visualize it. Um, they said to him, um, "What would you do if Jame Thompson won?" And he said, "I'd hang myself." And I thought, "Wow, that's the dumbest [ __ ] in the history of MMA productions." The the idea that you have one guy that's the most important thing and bank everything on him winning. Yeah, exactly. So stupid. All exit completely dumb because if you kicked that guy's ass, it would have been awesome. If if they they left you in side control, it would have been awesome. Just like it was awesome for him when he won. It would have been awesome for you, then you know, you got to let the guy who's supposed to win win. There's a lot of fights where the referee errors on the side of caution and protects the fighter. And in a case like yours, you feel like you were denied an opportunity because of that. Right. Well, yeah. And the what what I was saying before. So I was I started rambling, but um G I was backstage and it had just happened and um Gary Shaw's son um that [ __ ] big kid. Scala, is that what they call him? Oh yeah, Scala with Seems like a nice guy with a [ __ ] what was that? Dollar sign [ __ ] Yeah. Is a chain. A dollar sign chain. Oh, the S is Yeah. Yeah. It's clever. Yeah. Well, he grew up with a rich dad and he probably uh you know it's an interesting way to live your life. But he came up to me and he said, "Um, you got to go to the hospital. You
got to go to the hospital now." And uh you got to go to the hospital. Yeah. And I turned to him and I said, "Yeah." I said, "Yeah, all right." But he turned away or you know, cuz there was a lot going on, so he didn't hear me. And then he turned back and went, "You have to go to the hospital now. I'm taking you now." And I went, "You really want me to go to the hospital?" Right? Too much. So then I went to the press conference instead. And as I walked into the press conference, Gary Shaw was going, "We've just had to take James Thompson to the hospital, the emergency room. He has breathing." And I'm there and someone caught into it and I was drinking a drink. You know what I mean? And I think that sums it up really. Here's the legit issue for real. A woman like Jodie Foster can come out of the closet and still play someone's wife. No problem. No one has a problem with it. Right? If Tom Cruz, and I'm not saying Tom Cruz is gay, but if Tom Cruz was gay and he came out of the closet and um then wanted to do a movie where he was making out with a chick over, it's over. That's that's reality. I mean that I I believe I mean, look, I I shouldn't say it's reality because I'm basing it on my own personal feelings of how it would go down. It might go down differently, but I have I I think that you know the people who do polling for politicians and stuff like you know that I mean you'd be amazed at how irrational voters are how how how finding out one little thing about somebody's past can really sway an election. So people are very you know for the most part people are pretty conservative in their ideologies and stuff. Yeah. It doesn't seem to be an issue when you're women that are coming out. It's like we don't really have that much of a problem with that because there's not there's no like there's no penetration. I really think it's ah you're bumping muffs and you're making out. Yeah. There's a neediness to [ __ ] Give me what I need. Tell me what I need. Yeah. I'm going to neediness. And also there's also the stigma of disease and all that stuff that comes with it too, right? With the gay sex. Yeah. You know this stuff. What if they're just in a jerking off each other? Well, now it's completely different. That's And they're really
clean. And they're staring each other in the eye. They're looking away. Oh, looking away. That's funny. What are you worried about over here? Let me see your dick for a second. As a goof, I'm going to jerk it off. Listen, I've been shaving around my dick because they say it makes my dick look bigger, but I'm not convinced. Can you give me an opinion? I mean, I want you to be objective here. Let me give it a look. I'm going to give it a look. I don't think it looks any bigger, dude. That looks a lot bigger. I'm telling you, it doesn't look good. Can I be honest with you? It doesn't even look like I could choke you with this. You look like you should have hooves right now. I'm like, you would just suck it and it wouldn't even feel bad. It would just go all the way in your mouth. I mean, I'm betting. We tried it right now. I'm betting it go in your mouth. You mean you don't think you could feel it? We need to um I'll try. We need to do another Mikey and Tony in the basement. Was what was the character's names? Do we remember? Um Mikey, one of them was Mikey. And then there was the mom who was Kelly Kirsten. Yeah, she was great. When I was involved in boxing, some of the best fights I ever saw were in the gym. Oh, yeah. You know. Oh, hell yeah. One day, one day I saw uh uh Living Stone Bramble and Roger Mayweather [ __ ] go at it at a [ __ ] gym in Vegas. Yeah. Another time. Wow. At at one of the gyms cuz cuz we all work together. I worked with Mayweather. I worked with Nick One Kick. Um Floyd when Floyd was first coming. I mean, we we all work together in these gyms, you know. And uh one time there was this dude, he was a heavyweight, his name was Tracy. And him and Roger Mayweather [ __ ] got into it. He was Tracy was a young heavyweight. 24 year old kid heavyweight. And Roger was [ __ ] 147. Yeah. In his 40s. Jesus. And Roger said like, "What' you say, motherfucker?" [ __ ] gay into it back and forth. I go, "Oh [ __ ] here we go." And they got in the [ __ ] ring and started fighting, man. And uh yeah, they started [ __ ] fighting and at the end of the round when the bell went off, Tracy tried to stop and Roger [ __ ] lit him up and he goes, "No rounds,
[ __ ] No rounds." Wow. So they just kept fighting straight [ __ ] through until [ __ ] Tracy quit. Oh my god. Roger [ __ ] whooped his ass and he [ __ ] quit. And Yeah. And then and then when he quit, Roger hit him another eight, nine times after he [ __ ] quit. [ __ ] And he and he was basically like don't have a [ __ ] mouth off to me in this gym. A 147 lb 40year-old. But black mamba, you know, a lot of people don't know Roger. You know, a lot of people, everybody knows Floyd, but Roger, his uncle in his time, he was a bad [ __ ] He had a piss in right hand. Y he had a nasty jab and he would [ __ ] slam that right hand in. He was a bad dude for many a year. I've seen some crazy [ __ ] happen in [ __ ] gym boxing gyms, man. Crazy [ __ ] over the years. That's incredible.