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passion during those commercials enthusiasm and passion still there every time well just based on reality it's based on people ask me all the time dude is that [ __ ] for real people they ask me that all the time like dude Joe would not be involved in some [ __ ] that didn't work he's only involved in [ __ ] that works trust me that's well do you you don't get mine if you're if you're interested in neut Tropics there's a lot of stuff that you can get on your own and just buy it in bulk and it's way cheaper than doing this like what we've done but just go Google it it's it's fascinating [ __ ] it's vitamins for your brain it works you don't need that you clever woman no you're on top of [ __ ] already imag imagine her tattoos on on it on on shroom Tech yeah my friend Eddie Bravo is here with Kat Von D because Kat Von D actually wrote on Eddie Bravo's chest y tto on it yeah my hair's I haven't shaved my chest in a long time so it's kind of a Paul Stanley is Paul Stanley that's that's my grandmother wow I love that tattoo how long ago did we do that that was 3 years ago yeah something like that that is uh my what I think is the most impressive style of artwork that reproduction of portraits yeah fre out yeah it really does I saw this girl I saw this girl last night that had her father on her arm as a child though and so just this little child on her arm and I'm like has you know anyone ever tried to like does it is it messy is it weird when people are like you know like I try to make him blink you know like as a baby and like [ __ ] her with the face and it's like is that weird to you she goes no this guy's comed on it before and I made him lick it off and I'm like what like that's just crazy like those realistic tattoos oh my God who I okay Brian I don't know what the hell he just said I think Brian needs to go you need to go take some medicine I think I for a second then I'm like damn I smoked too much weed I smoked too much weed no I think Brian did you just went too deep right you just got you just you just ran up a ramp covered in Vaseline son I definitely smok too much weed don't he lost me yeah I have to deal with him by myself sometimes I was trying to remember the story like I'm crazy I was trying to remember the story that happened last night but then I was too
stoned to remember it so then I was like trying to stumble while telling a story just got to slow down son the crazy the crazy thing about how this tattoo came about was her shop is one was one block away from old Legends remember that so I passed by what's old Legends Legends is an MMA gym it was on it was a kickboxing just like right down the street from uh your shop so I would pass by to go home I lived in West Hollywood I would pass by too and and from work all the time and always see your t i never saw your show but I knew who you were from the Billboards around Hollywood and [ __ ] but I never ever not once thought about ever getting a tattoo for me I just didn't think about it I had myy my guy Carson Hill you know I just I have this tattoo artist who's awesome name name is Carson Hill is an LA [ __ ] amazing but I was I'm cool with him I'm only going to let him [ __ ] with my [ __ ] now that's what I was thinking but then after like a year of just passing by your shop I ended up in the U at the UFC in Dallas we were in Dallas and then wasn't [ __ ] to do and I used to work for the UFC and I'm sitting there in my hotel room and the alma show comes up that ALMA Awards oh yeah it's like I I was there was my mom I took my mom yeah so I'm watching this the Almo Awards I that the Latino celebrity Awards or whatever and I'm watching that you know me being Latin you know I'm like oh [ __ ] I didn't know that white dude was [ __ ] half Mexican like actors are coming up and rock I thought you were talking about me I'm like no no no no and then and then and then cat Von D comes up and I'm like oh [ __ ] she's Mexican holy [ __ ] I didn't know born in Mexico but my family's from Argentina so I am Latina but I'm all mixed up so Dam your family's from Argentina yeah wow that's cool so at that point let me let me finish this real quick so at that point now she's in my head I'm like think oh she's Mexican so that was Friday afternoon Monday first class after class it's 11 o'clock at night I'm driving past her shop it's closed up and I'm thinking a wild hair just a delusional thought hey maybe I could get her to do a tattoo on me and film it and put it on my show me thinking like like she would actually do it I'm thinking for 10 seconds I'm thinking that's a good idea but then as I made her right on Santa Monica Boulevard I'm like she's
so famous you would never do that I'm like what a crazy dumb thought I go home take a shower to get a late night bite to eat at kitchen 24 by myself I just walked in I'm yeah I sat there and this girl comes up to me that I knew from a long time ago Jason's exir girlfriend Jason Chambers X girlfriend comes up and goes Eddie what's up and she gives me a hug oh [ __ ] and she looks at me and goes you should let Kat Von D tattoo you I'm like that is crazy cuz I was just thinking that an hour and a half ago that's insane or whatever I'm like that's a pretty crazy synchronicity and then she goes no but I'm serious I could actually get you on the show I'm like what he goes yeah I work on the show they hired me this [ __ ] ain't real she was she was such an idiot that chick and it's just interesting that came in riding on that vehicle because like it was really honestly would have probably worked more against you than for you but somehow you Happ she was Bros with the casting director and she goes the casting director loves U with anyone well well she did she did get me on the show yeah yeah yeah and for that I am grateful for oh well thank you so she said it's funny when [ __ ] works that way when you have some weird idea and all of a sudden it becomes reality the next morning I meet the casting director and he said let's do it cuz he's a big UFC fan and I was just right there on the show and you know what they originally she go they go cat is very picky on who she does tattoos with so if she doesn't pick you will you go with the other two and I said no were you on the fence at all um well you know it's when we would film the show there was like a screening process so like I would get these like lists of um different ideas and uh PE requests I guess and so I would based on the artwork I would filter through and do the ones that I knew that I I was capable of or I'd be excited about um but they wouldn't really tell me much about the person coming in because they wanted to be all natural on camera and stuff so I didn't know I don't I think I knew very minimal other than your name I didn't know yeah she didn't know she just for they said didn't know very strange yeah I said I wouldn't do it I felt it was so crazy that I thought of it that night and an hour and a half
later some chick makes it happen I thought it was so crazy that that I said no I won't do it unless cat does it I'm not interested yeah that is really odd when things like that happen cuz there's no denying that that like statistically put that [ __ ] on paper how crazy is put the into your head on paper and then meeting what are the odds of that that's like [ __ ] Millions to one it's almost like the the the story of your life is like the the the writers are working on it less and it's just getting shittier and easier for things to happen it's like instead of it being some complicated [ __ ] War and Peace epic of you know complicated intertwining personalities no I just think about some [ __ ] and the next day you get a phone call it's like what no an hour hour and a half later imagine if you had imagine if you had like a bunch of magic gifts and you didn't know about them and you were just using them on tattoos and [ __ ] when you could you you know maybe fly or breathe under water or something you know like you might have had a magic gift and you you made it happen you like maybe get a handful of those in your life I told and you just decided to do that make it happen yeah it's crazy actually when you think about it it's insane it's it would even if you had like little magic like the ability to make something happen a few gifts like that in your life you're really not going to be able to do anything that's truly Supernatural I mean that would have already been done already so like when you look at someone who's got like that a tattoo is actually one of the best things you can do you know get something that's permanent artwork on your on your skin that to you I know means an incredible amount and to get it from someone like her and to get it all in like one big that really is better than like most magic tricks you know right it's Inc I was trying to tell the story to the producers they didn't want to hear that [ __ ] cuz they didn't want to hear that one of the chicks that worked on the show like pulled string they didn't want to make that part of the show and the story because it breaks the walls of reality yeah they so they when I was telling that story I'm like I got an incredible story but they go we don't want to hear that story oh that's a great story why wouldn't they tell
that story because then it shows that someone got dragged in and pulled you know you know I think too I think uh it's smarter on the I mean you know the the relatability on that in comparison to your your actual story you know like what you do and what it took to get you there and uh the meaning behind the tattoo is a lot more I guess um you know it resonates with the viewer much more than saying oh yeah hey this is a Hollywood moment I was at [ __ ] you know Cafe I wouldn't think of it as a Hollywood moment though I think for him it's just a crazy piece of synchronicity like yeah and I think we ended up actually talking about that kind of stuff anyway like throughout the yeah I was I may have told you that story before are you a big fan of synchronicity do you do you uh experienc in your life yeah oh I'm a big fan of being the the master of your own reality I think you know it's not so much about wishing your way through something or manifesting it but you know I think certain mental attitudes or mentalities that are are more productive than others well we know that certain attitudes I mean you you've talked about it like that John Sarno back thing like if you have like some sort of a uh like you you could be upset or angry at things and have a bad back and think that your bad back is actually like an injury it's not even an injury it literally is your own brain causing your body to knot up in some sort of crazy way that's painful it deprives I don't know the exact science behind it but when you have some serious stress in your life somehow this is a theory that I heard I didn't make this up your body the pain is real your body will uh suffocate your or deprive oxygen to the your back muscles and then they get really sore and tight that's what happens when you get nervous or or stressful that's the theory I you know it kind of makes sense because I have I have a a a backstory as well but I don't want to get into that but I believe it that's a long story we got we're here to talk about yeah but my my thinking was that you know you really do change a lot of [ __ ] with your mind I mean your your mind just in in the things that you come up with like your artwork do you does your doesn't doesn't it ever feel like sometimes like where where the [ __ ] is this coming from this is almost like
like it's coming out of nowhere it's coming out of your creativity you know it's coming out of this weird place in your mind then all of a sudden it's manifested get s in this be does it ever like freak you out um I don't know if it freaks me out I just get excited about things you know and I'm I mean I don't know I'm in love with my job I love I mean I can't even call it my job that would be so weird to say that you know or I guess I'm the luckiest person on the planet but yeah I think it's just more um perspective really I think for year well you know I've been tattoo since I was 14 years old I got into my first tattoo shop when I was 16 um illegally obviously and I never went through like a traditional apprenticeship or anything like that but then um this this funny idea for TV show happened when I was like 21 22 and it changed the Dynamics of things you know at the time I was drinking and partying a lot and St I'm sober now but um it was like I I almost had resentment towards people uh you know after doing like a lot of the same stuff over and over again and the expectations that come in it kind of like rapes the art at times you know because you just want to I mean for me I just wanted to create I just wanted to draw or tattoo and do my best and then you know the story behind the tattoo and all that it just it it gets pretty heavy after a while but then uh you know something flipped and and I saw each opportunity or each tattoo has an opportunity to connect with people you know and I think I think I'm always looking for that you know I I sound like a hippie but like I I like making people like feel good about things and about life whether it's about death or whatever it does sound like a hippie but it's beautiful but you know it's like it's it's a weird thing that we we mock stuff like that I don't I mean I just I mock myself more than anything cuz I catch C myself sounding that way I do as well yeah I catch myself sounding like a [ __ ] I'm like what are you talking about idealistic fool but synchronicity but that would be the best way to live if we all could figure out how to tune in like that and everybody could I I feel like I'm always at my most creative when I'm being like generous and kind and nice to as many people as possible
and experience the you know a good connectivity with all the human beings you interact with totally you feel better you feel like some it's working better the things well I think you recognize your power as an individual you know and I think like uh intentions are really important you know there's like this this little thing that I do and I think I've only told like uh like one person about it at the end of every tattoo I put this paper towel on the tattoo and I I put like witch hazel which is like a naturalist stringent and stuff and it's like I always like hold my hands over it for a minute and I think they that the client most of the time thinks I'm just like cleaning it off or something but in my mind I'm thinking like several words and and this is really going to sound like a crazy I don't know like Voodoo hippie thing but I just think these three words and um and it's like a transfer of energy and whatever what are the three words I'm telling you you can't tell me the three words really what are they secret yeah come on it's they're just words it would be magic why would you no it's impossible to kill her magic it's impossible to kill un something like rainbow chicken salad kept it a secret no I want to hear it why can't you tell us it's just words not just words Kidd well I mean you I think you would help people You' fire them up maybe they start doing that with their life well I mean people have mantras and stuff and you know whatever works for you but they want to try the cap Von D Mantra it's been so successful once it's on t-shirts then forget it maybe you have some magic you should like give it up I do have magic we all have magic but um no the purpose being is that there's like intention behind every every everything you do and um and I think that's really important because there is like a physical aspect of energy you know when people like like by and all that stuff there's actual energy that you're putting out into the world so and focus I mean we all know when someone's not focusing on us when you're having a conversation when they're looking at their phone or doing something else yeah or you know like when you meet people and they're just like they're just [ __ ] or they're angry or they're having a bad day or
it's hot or whatever and I I've like witnessed it before where I can like bring presence or positivity into a situation you know where it's like uh I recognize my power to do that and it's like I I remember one time I was driving down L Brea and like I got uh the chick behind me wasn't paying attention and she totally crashed into my car and then the guy behind her wasn't paying attention and he crashed into her and his airbags went off and all this [ __ ] you know and I'm like my car is like pretty stealth it's not going to get I don't even think I got a ding on it you know and the cars behind me were just like tin and cans and I just remember going like getting out of the car and I mean I'm wearing like full leather and just like tattooed and just like you know and I'm like that could be pretty intimidating and I'm like oh okay I'm going to consciously like make these people feel okay you know and like she rolled down her window she's like and I just remember going hey are you okay and just like like looking at her her eye and like asking her if she's okay and she she just like softened and after like don't kill me yeah by the end of cuz I could some crazy gang banger chick yeah you like he would do some damage yeah if I was a chick I would be so bummed out if I rear rented you no and and no afterwards we were all laughing about it cool and I think that we have the power to do that most people get all like up in arms about things and I just realized I read something when I was a kid that nothing has any meaning other than the meaning that you give it yeah totally and you could force things to be Poss if you can force all negative situations to be opportunities for growth you know you can you can it's a way you can live your life like that totally or you could be a [ __ ] just slamming into walls everywhere and live in misery never figure it out yeah yeah yeah yeah you got your first tattoo when you were 16 no I got my first tto I was 14 actually holy [ __ ] yeah I still have it it's like a little J on my ankle it was for my first love ever and we did it for like three years and wow that's intense yeah ran ran away like moved across country on a gound bus how old were you when you did that uh by then I was 15 when I mov across and then I was already tattooing and stuff so Jesus
Christ yeah you could put now you could put a z under it and then put 99 problems and quotes and I don't know that but I just tell people s for Jesus or just kidding just kidding that's funny yeah you know wow that that's a really young age to be traveling across my poor parents man and I had a hard time like uh I think forgiving myself for a long time because I'm really close with my dad and stuff he actually like lived with me up until recently and um he got his own place and I was pretty bummed about that but yeah at the time I was like oh you know I never wanted to hurt anybody's feelings I just really felt like the need to do this this thing that my family didn't understand you know and they're from a different culture like I said and stuff so they weren't really prepared for you know they assume like tattooing oh my God you're like a a hoodlum or a gangster a drug addict or a hooker whatever you know I was none of the above so they never put in their head you're doing tattoos boom you're going to be some crazy famous chick no I mean you know and we we lived in a really isolated world like you know the way we were brought up was not very Americanized at all so like which which I'm glad because I feel like that that's really honestly the one of things I credit to like being able to do all things I've done is just like the discipline and you know the three of us my brother sis and I we all like classically trained on the piano since I was six and um you know two hours a day we had a practice and when we would rather be like hanging out stuff and we were like way too poor to like afford like video games and [ __ ] like that so so I drew all the time and and spent time with my family and stuff and so for that I'm grateful I feel like that discipline really plays into like executing ideas you know I have IDE millions of ideas at all times you know and just like I think a lot of people have ideas and they just think it's I don't they've been programmed to think it's not like attainable or something which is silly to me yeah well there's that hump that you have to get over in associating pleasure with getting things done yeah and also I think too it's like a people's idea of success is so warped you know it's like they base it on money or status or fame and and and to be
honest with you when I started tattooing I didn't even know it was a job I just knew it felt organic and it felt like natural that not not it didn't come to me naturally I worked really hard for it but it felt like this is where I was supposed to be you know and ever and this is granted before like a television show and stuff it was you know I just came from Disneyland it was like if I would have gone to desine back then like you know you don't get happy smiles and stuff you know I had so many Julia Roberts moments going into stores it's like can we help you you know and I'm just like like I could buy this place like but no so they just immediately judge you that's like a common theme um I think when I was younger yeah I mean nowadays it's so like embraced you know I mean if my dad who was super anti- tattoos and doesn't have any or anything um you know it took 10 years of me tattooing because I I started tattooing on that TV show when I after 10 years of tattooing so it took a television show for my dad to actually um you know acknowledge the fact that wasn't like not a loser but you know like that I wasn't throwing my life away that he's like oh and sometimes it takes that I don't hold that against my dad I I don't blame them really you know you've influenced a lot of chicks in like how they look like you've you were the first one that like popped through and boys Joe the first one who was like a really hot chick who just tattooed herself to [ __ ] up it's like wo this chick went for it and and and guys were like I like it I like it and then and boom then there was a wave of them it was you and then it was like everywhere you look there's these crazy tattooed up girls like the percentage of it I don't know what I don't I'll put a number on it increased by like 30 40 50% it went from however minimal amount of women tattooed to like one out of three women had have tattoos in America and that was like back let's see uh I remember that stat when I did the L and degenerous show which was like years ago so probably more now do you look at the stats like we're winning we're taking over no no no no because I never I actually you know I mean I have friends that have no tattoos and like feel the need to get one I'm like I don't I like you the way you are you know that's good I mean I get tattooed
for myself personally you know it's um if anything it's kind of it's kind of a drag sometime I don't really feel like you know always talking about my tattoos like when I'm going out and stuff but it's also a positive thing I can't complain you know I love art so yeah yeah it's it's a weird thing with people if they either they either have them or they don't have them if they don't have them they could never imagine I could never imagine can never imagine drawing something it justay you forever suicide girls they owe you big time you blew that that company up right I don't know that whole look yeah they need to worship you do you I think I tattooed the the guy who brought came up with that whole concept but a while ago do you feel weird about that like that you've I mean that's got to be a strange thing to have so much influence um you know I think uh I may not have recognized it when I first started um you know being in the public eye or whatever whatever as as that until I got sober I think I really started recognizing that and it became important to me you know I'm pretty PG-13 just by by Nature you know I'm pretty squeaky clean I don't you could take my phone and go through it and find pictures of my cat and stuff probably not anything incriminating but um um I I I like the idea of like uh putting that good good stuff out there you know like all my books and everything I it's it's really easy for me to talk about my downfalls or like my issues or not struggles cuz that sounds like I'm a martyr or something but like you know the [ __ ] I've experienced in hopes that I don't know people would feel less alone because I know what it's like to feel that way so you know I don't know well that's what a lot of people say about people that are covered in tattoos and if you never I have two sleeves if in case you're thinking I'm being an [ __ ] um they they feel like uh a lot of people don't have tattoos feel like you're covering something up oh yeah I remember Dr Drew and I had a conversation about that cuz he um I loved this book that he wrote um and in it talked about how tattooing is like a a form of narcissism not on like the level of oh I think I'm awesome but the opposite which is narcissism just the same but um you know like it's it's a
reflection of what it's on the inside and I don't really necessarily see it that way because that to me yeah there's some tattoos that hold meaning like I love my dad I got a portrait on my arm that's self-explanatory but there's other stuff I love like my friends who don't know how to draw like tattoo me it looks like a drunken three-year-old did something and I love it cuz it's just fun and it's cool and I don't really care you know you let your friends draw on you that's awesome I let him tattoo me which is bigger like a bigger deal yeah but um Dr Drew is a silly [ __ ] he really is a silly [ __ ] I love him too but he's a silly [ __ ] we need to get him on the podcast I saw him the other day at the gas station I would get him on I would get him on I I you know I he's been involved in that Scandal for influencing the idea that people bought some certain drugs off label like saying touting their sexual benefits and stuff and then they'll talk crap about marijuana or people smoke pot and he'll say silly things like how horribly addictive it is and it's all just nonsense nonsense I don't you know I haven't like I said earlier I haven't owned television in it was 16 years in March and I'm pretty Adam about not watching television um I don't know but but but you know I get what you're saying that he can't tell you why you're getting you can't say that you're just not enjoying the art you can't I know people love their tattoos they love it for artart yeah it's you know you don't have to expressive person and you know yeah like I of course we all have issues and stuff I have no problem like wearing my heart on my sleeve and I I mean I've actually gotten a lot of [ __ ] for that you know what I mean in the past and stuff with relationships and I just don't I don't really live in that world of regret or really giving a [ __ ] so you know I just hate absolutes like that like it you have to be [ __ ] up you have to be this you have to do that it's it gets silly with certain things yeah I mean I I think no one's perfect either so I feel like like you know I can see the goodness in in everything even the stuff I don't necessarily agree with you know I guess I try to at least right you know yeah I just I would I would like to look at things that way I would like to look at people with tattoos and just you
know I don't know why anybody got them but I look at him and I go wow I hope you like it I hope it's something that means something I hope it's something everybody H for whatever reason wants to immediately try to figure out what was [ __ ] up with you that made you get to place where you enjoy like totally corporate and working in a cubicle that's miserable and there's like suppression of like of creativity like man that's such a waste of life energy you know like God imagine if everybody was free to do things like um as they you know like like I was talking about earlier people's idea of success it's like imagine if you didn't you weren't Bound by like everybody else's idea of that you know like if you could settle for a job that paid less but you were completely happy I mean my dad and I were used to argue about this all the time because he's like you know you didn't go to high school and it's like yeah I know Dad I know but check it out like you went to years of school and you don't like what you do and you're struggling so hard and you know my dad comes from a medical background and stuff but um and I was still on my way to work every day and I walked down like the tarnished [ __ ] Hollywood stars you know like just walking I'm like oh my God there's like a bunch of punk rockers there and it's like oh like it's just life is good like I love it you know and and if I wasn't getting paid I'd still be happy there's a documentary that Warner her OG um just put out it's called the happy people a year in the taiga it's uh these people that live up in Siberia and uh how happy they are and there's like no depression everybody just does their work and all their whole life is struggle their whole life is all they live off the land almost completely entirely trapping hunting and uh they're they're in [ __ ] Siberia there's only one way to get there you have a couple months where you can take a boat that's it otherwise you got to get flown in there's no roads to get up there and these people happy as [ __ ] they're just up there you know like shooting animals living off the land growing their own vegetables they have to work hard in the spring and summer to prepare for the winter and then they prepare for the winter like smoking fish I mean every day no one has a job every day they're
working like securing food for their families and storing it up so they can make it through the next winter it's un it's not really it's not really that different than living in Hollywood and people who do that in their own ways it's just it's just more I feel like from what that yeah it sounds so much more simple and like less thought evoked like here it's like the stress of getting to work and fighting three hours of traffic to get to a job that I don't respect or love and you know it's it's that you're still suffering or whatever for for something you know what I mean well something happened somewhere along the way somewhere along the way and society and our culture moved way faster than the human body did and all of a sudden jobs required you to sit still they required you to stare at [ __ ] unnatural light they required you to enter in things and your [ __ ] back hurts and you're doing it all day every day like the body is not designed for that the body's designed to do what these [ __ ] people in Siberia are doing it's designed to go out and and kill caribou and and you know have dogs chained to trees and they keep the bears away I mean that's these guys are happy as [ __ ] and this is the real way we're supposed to live it's crazy they hate it well they don't though see what I'm saying is that like we all of our little receptors I think are set up for to reward us for certain experiences and I don't think we're set up any different than the people that lived when you had to live like that so I think the only way to really not feel lost is there's no [ __ ] movie star status when you're in Siberia there's no front- ofthe line of the club no mentally generated there's no [ __ ] there's no nothing there's no head of 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu there's no stand-up comedian there's no nothing there's get a fish you got to get a fish cuz we're going to [ __ ] die in the winter if you don't and everybody do that but yet they're all happy as [ __ ] they there's you remember when you were a kid and you like you like thought of like where you were like well we'll never I'll never live there I'm never going to move there I'm I'm never going to get out of this class I'm never going to get out of this situation this is where I'm at well for them it's a
reality where they're surrounded by nature and woods like there really is no Alternatives so they have no delusions there's no Ridiculousness in their life and they're truly in the moment living like people were living 10,000 plus years ago yeah that's how we're supposed to live so we're [ __ ] ourselves up if they had TV [ __ ] how long do you think it would take one Generation TV they'd be out of there in a minute the kids were like what are we doing out here yeah looking at MTV Kon would change the way they all look get Mom in one month they'd all want tattoos they'd be uh making homemade tattoos with beaver teeth and [ __ ] they would start tattooing themselves in Siberia be tea someone should make yeah we were at the uh the coffee place and uh we were having talk with the nice lady behind the counter and she said oh I had a house sit this weekend it was terrible they didn't even have cable no Internet and me and Eddie were like well but we were being serious we're like whoa no cable what the [ __ ] what do you use anten that's sucks and then and then Eddie goes well at least he got the internet and she's like no no they didn't even have the internet he's like what what [ __ ] TV you can just get on the internet these guys don't even have that they don't even have electricity and they're happy they don't have electricity man they just don't know they get a little bit of gasoline that they use for their uh snowmobiles and their chainsaws and that's a wrap that's it they probably think they're balling like the the lower class of them live in the hills and [ __ ] there's no class man that's what's crazy they all live in the exact same houses they don't even use Windows man they don't use Windows because windows are too hard to carry around so they build these houses at are logs and then they cut holes in the logs and put plastic and nail plastic in place so they that's all you need bears Bears rip them apart so often those damn Bears I swear where they going to get glass anyways it's hard to transport yeah it's they get yeah they got chainsaws they they're not making their own chainsaws they somehow or another got chainsaws either taken to them on a boat or flown in somebody gave them a few tools but they like make they make boats with with
a [ __ ] big piece of wood they just drop it down and Hollow it out and make this canoe and that's like it's that's how they live every year it does never change and yet they're happy as [ __ ] it's really weird cuz to us it would be hell to the lady who works at uh the coffee place she was buming out that she didn't have cable you know these [ __ ] are fighting mosquitoes like you've never seen because the mosquitoes are only alive for like a couple of months they only got a couple months in Siberia to live so they go gangster in giant swarms like you never seen anything like that and they don't have any raid or any [ __ ] like that so they have to off they have to cover themselves in tar they make a tar with bark they cook the bark down to a tar and then rub it all over their face with like oil [ __ ] that [ __ ] that I'd be gone I go [ __ ] this you imagine you've never seen mosquitoes like this that's horor well that's one of the beautiful things about La is that we're not supposed to be here so life doesn't like it here either there's not that much here without us there not that much water there very few bugs yeah very few bugs like in the summers in in the east coast it was [ __ ] terrible you know especially like in uh in Boston if you lived any anywhere near a lake anywhere near body of water oh the mosquitoes were horrendous man they would [ __ ] you up nothing like Siberia dude [ __ ] yet they're so happy y but then again you wouldn't be happy that way you wouldn't be happy no you wouldn't not if you know you're life now you love tattooing you love you know you love but that doesn't Define me I mean true know you could adapt yeah of course you can do you think you could be a Siberian princess I don't know if I be want to be a princess but be up there be traing [ __ ] a warrior yeah that would be cool for a couple months a year [ __ ] it you go live with them until you realize they have no cigarettes you're like [ __ ] no cigarettes I want a cigarettes so bad you're like that for two days and someone will give you some rolled up [ __ ] that tries to claim as a cigarette one one issue of Inked magazine would destroy that culture yeah oh anything would destroy it access to some other things would destroy it the idea is that it takes the body
somewhere between 10 and maybe even possibly 20,000 or more years to completely change like to completely change as far as like um uh for you to have a like a like a genetic response to uh an to adaptation to change to like 10,000 years for us is not is a long long time to a human being but to species it's really not that much so in order for things to like decide that they're moving in a certain directions then they start changing and that's one of the things that like the really controversial ideas behind autis ism is that autism is U not necessarily um a benefit but that autism might be a new possible way that the brain can operate you know with some like really high functioning autistics it's like what they're showing is like even though it's coming through in a disease and even though it it brings with it debilitating social issues and [ __ ] like that the positive aspects of it like a kid that can look out a window and then draw the whole [ __ ] Skyline yeah that what that is is representing the next stage of human evolution and that all the information that we're getting from sitting in from of computers from interacting with each other in a way that no one has ever been able to do before the brain is just going we're just redlining that [ __ ] I can't wait to be able to buy that upgrade can you imagine that just wonder if that's going to be available going be a pill it's going to be a pill it's just going to be a like oh we're going to [ __ ] up your brain a little most here most likely if you listen to like the real futurists it's going to be some sort of a hybrid between a human and a computer it'll be something where I'll be long gone by then think you think so but I don't know about that some autism pills I don't think so I don't think you'll be long gone I think you might experience that and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing I think everybody's worried about every new possible technological thing as being something that separates us from each other or something that I'm not worried about it I just just seems like a lot of a lot of energy to waste on thinking about I don't know I mean then again you know I'm not like a big fan of like reading fiction you know I guess I mean you're not a fan of fiction
you're not you don't even have a television right no I mean I have like a movie screen I can watch movies you watch movies but no T yes I like documentaries and stuff like that but you try to avoid TV no I do avoid TV I don't like force advertisement and I don't like um well no I don't want to complain I just think that uh I'll tell because you're on it right no I mean I can no I mean you could you can complain mean I mean I could easily I could more it's easier for me to talk [ __ ] about like point at all the downfalls of my television show versus anyone else so like in in vague terms I think that my problem with it or my the reason that I stay away from it aside from just being I got too many ideas that I want to do I don't have time but like is that I am too sensitive so like I I get like I get heartbroken by Billboards like seriously there was like a movie I remember there was like a movie and they had Billboards everywhere I don't remember the movie it was like you know Ashton kusher and some like hot chick or whatever and like and and in it he's like putting on buttoning up his shirt she's like buttoning up and she's wearing his shirt and she's like getting out of bed and it says something about like no strings attached or like friends with benefits or some [ __ ] and I was like like that's so sad to me like that's like the opposite of love like like you guys just like have sex with each other and there's no like I could never wow and you almost cried looking at a billboard I mean if I think about it too much yeah I do so it's like I watch if I were to sit there and watch um these television shows where the premise is to like you know there's a rich guy and a bunch of girls are fighting over this guy and they're using like their tits and ass to as as qualities it's it's it's disheartening so I mean I sound like an old lady cu no you don't I get it every time I see a Circuit City I feel that way like an abandoned Circuit City it's depressing to me I get sad there's just an absence of true love and that I guess the Romantic iny get saddened by that same with music I can't listen to music that's too you can definitely get affected by some [ __ ] especially if you don't know it's coming like and you flip it through the channels there's some intense [ __ ] movies on like that you
you know you're just flipping through like I watched Straw Dogs last night do you know what Straw Dogs is I haven't seen it it's a there's this insane rape scene in this movie where I I turned on the movie right when it was going on I was like what [ __ ] movie is this but for the rest of the night I was all [ __ ] up I mean it becomes I don't want to say anything about the mie the movie's very good um but it's it gets really [ __ ] intense whereas like the rest of the night I was [ __ ] up and I ordinarily wouldn't have watched it but I I didn't know what it was I was just pressing buttons and then boom it came on yeah and [ __ ] my head for the rest of the night yeah and it's weird and I think it's like we just kind of like we I know I think it's like people become so desensitized and I guess that's the part that I have a problem with you know like people you see it on Twitter you see on Instagram everybody's so negative and mean and take any opportunity to like knock people down I've never been from that like train of thought you know know cuz my parents just raised us a lot differently and stuff and so it like I get like I get butt hurt real easily serious that's better though you know you'll you'll attract better people that way and you'll figure out a way to get away from the people that ar oh yeah I mean it's it's like yeah giving that any value is just as bad I think but I just want people to be nice that's all I think almost all really expressive people anybody who's artistic or very expressive there's always some extreme sensitivity on the other side of just is just you're intense about everything you're probably intense about love you're probably intense about yeah I mean that's why you cry when you see an Aston k thing it's your intensity you're you're you're you you take [ __ ] up to a higher level quicker than most people that's probably what it is everything's a symbol and then I get sad about that so yeah but I've been sad I've cried during previews depressing movies what yeah man what good burger what I don't know I don't funny over there some sad thank you don't encourage him sorry what are you doing how can you say that after all he's done no but you know then there's like those like moments of Brilliance and people are inspiring and great and do awesome
[ __ ] yeah well that's uh that's what we get off each other the most that's the most beautiful thing that people get from each others we we you know we're inspired by each other like I love going to music because I'm not musical I can't do anything so I love going and watching because it feel I feel like it it fires me up like it does oh you go to musicals no no no no I love to see music I love to see people perform bands perform I love to see them I love to see people do things that I have zero skill in D I was impressed with with our last exchange of emails with when we were like uh going back and forth on band recommendations and stuff because I had no idea that you were into this that kind of stuff well the funny thing is he he emailed me and he's like hey I want to know uh like what are your what are you listening to nowadays I want to get some new music and I'm like oh man like where do you start give me a genre you know and so then you turn me on so many good song so then I was like all right here here's like 10 and then tell me which ones you like and then I'll know what kind I'll be your like genius playlist or whatever oh wow that's cool D you're using cat Von D for your Genius playlist love she's got some great [ __ ] she's I'm G to tell you my my Kat Von D music story cuz most people most people don't know that she has an amazing voice she can sing her ass off and she's really shy about it she's crazy shy about it we have is that true well let me let me tell you this she doesn't like talking about it I about it I just can't say like oh yeah it is true we're both working with the same producer which is also her best friend Danny is producing my stuff and he's messing with her too musically as well so I'm at Danny's and we're working on some stuff and he goes me and uh me and Cat and West Borland from Limp Biscuit he's the guitar player for West goes me and Wes are going to do a little benefit s benit he really helped me out like last minute I had last they put together this they're putting together this song Last minut a cover and she's going to perform at this gay benefit right yeah it was for the for uh Linda Perry's um evening with women it's like an awesome yeah so Danny's telling me and Danny he's like man we're trying to put together this song this could be we
had like less than 48 hours to learn this song it was like that bronsky beat song I love bronsky beat and like and I mean I ended up just like reading it from my iPad as I was trying and totally [ __ ] it up but it was fun and it was great and stuff but then I think I had been recording that night at Linda's and you were at Danny's and I was really excited because it I had um cuz I had like gnarly stage fright issues like for the last year in Stu just whatever and so I finally threw the balls I guess to get over them and and so obviously Danny's my best friend and going be working on music so I was like ah hey I want to come over it was late I think it was like what like almost midnight or something yeah me and Danny are working on stuff and Linda Perry for those that don't know she was the lead singer for Four Non blonds she produced Pink's second album which went [ __ ] Skyrocket so Linda Perry is a massive music she also Christina Aguilera too the big you're so beautiful no sing keep singing I want to hear this no but so so the Linda Perry's a huge me down right right so she's working with cat now they're writing some [ __ ] together I'm at Danny's she's all excited they recorded a song they brought it over yeah and then Danny's like texting me is it cool if Eddie Bravo listen I'm like yeah I don't care I just just don't say anything about it and then but of course I had to be in the other room cuz I was like I'm not going to sit there and go like you know what do you think or whatever but yeah she had to go to the next room it was just like vocal it wasn't like a produced track or anything and then um Danny was all stoked but he he texted me there day he's like man he's still talking about it he like loved it that I'm like oh that makes me happy is that what Danny said so what what ended up happening I told the story I told the story a bunch cuz like the next day at school I said most you guys most of you guys don't know this you can't tell most of you guys don't know this but I was so impressed with her voice and the actual song her and Linda Perry together I feel with the right marketing of course it could it could you know it could it could I think it could be huge could it be bigger than Paris Hilton single I like that song a lot I bet you
did you should get that [ __ ] tattooed on your dick no well anyways the song the song that her and Linda Perry did together the first one that she brought over is amazing what's it called uh I'm not going to talk about it yet it's too it's yeah you can't talk about it son she's trying to send you hints the bottom line is she's actually a great singer her voice is amazing when I see your work I think you'd be good at anything you wanted to be you'd be amazing if you can if you can draw that well I mean that's like some really highle [ __ ] you could do that with anything I really believe that many I believe that with anybody who's super awesome at anything how many bad tattoos do you see a day of people just coming in with like I mean do have you you ever seen one that you're just like wow that's the worst tattoo I've ever seen well I mean it's there's such a big difference in like um like personal preference versus technical aspect of things so like I mean there's some stuff that's not necessarily technically it's it's like everything else like music it's like technically might not be the best singer but the Charisma is behind it and you know blah blah blah blah I well there's that style that um the the what what was the T-shirt Ed Hardy that Ed Hardy sort of style old school 1950s like traditional stuff yeah which not that artistic but that's like people like that it's own art you know and I didn't understand it for a long time uh my ex-husband was like really into doing that kind of artwork and he's really great at it um there's an art behind it you know I personally not as inclined to to to do that kind of stuff but but I appreciate it for what it is so I don't know I mean I think I see um a lot of great ideas you know and people often and then you just see kind of a poor execution or or a an inexperienced execution and stuff but yeah I mean I don't know I see so many amazing things now that like blow me out of the water it's like [ __ ] there's so many great artists nowadays so I'm permanently scarred from ever getting a tattoo again because of my tattoo cuz it was a free tattoo it was somebody practi ing for their first time it took 7 hours it should have take one hour God I remember I used to be that slow too yeah and then I found out it's not even supposed to it
like supposed to be an R for my last name and I found out it means waterfalls now so now it's like the ugliest tattoo ever with this Chinese letter that means waterfalls but it's probably small you can cover it up easy great yeah you just get that [ __ ] lasered off son they could do that pretty easy now especially like um like it's not red red is apparently the most difficult color yeah it's got red it's got red in it have you got oh is it does it yeah they could work that red I think red is red is actually the easiest to go blue and Pur thought I thought that was blue for some reason red is the easiest to get out yeah red and black and then purples and greens I think blues and greens are a little harder but it all all depends on like how have you done it have you done the lasering off on anything yeah lasered a couple like this whole arm got lasered it used to be I got like this tattoo when I was like 15 or 16 it was like the New York Dolls like cowgirl with a gun and then there's like a flag coming out of it says bang and at the time I thought it was cool but I'm like man I have the word bang on my arm I really need to get rid of that that's better than waterfalls how long did it take um well with like laser you have to uh go for sessions it's like super painful and stuff but more painful than tattooing [ __ ] yeah wow well I'm a wussy so I don't know I can't handle what did you just say yeah you have tattoos all over your body and you're telling me that you're OB oh my God I'm the ask anybody at my like 15 minutes and I tap out like I can't do it those were all 15minute tattoos no this was all a lot of them was under the influence of alcohol so it was a lot easier but now back in the day the dis yes things were easier oh yeah remember that one time when I drank too much oh do I remember I think we have that on video somewhere just just you saying that is hilarious cuz I can just go through a Rolodex in my head of any moment that sentence could apply to I he wrote A Blog about uh my alcohol problem do you have one no no I don't have an alcohol I'm not an alcoholic but I will drink a lot like on special occasions and when I pass a certain point the Indian comes out as Joey di says and when the Indian comes out for sure I'm not going to remember any of the night he's he blacks out is is he like like oh
I love you man he hates it he hates it he's a great he's a great guy the problem is he he completely checks out and he doesn't know where he is and he's I mean literally is like uh a third of a mind controlled by like a demon from another galaxy like one3 Eddie and 2/3 some uh demonic alcohol sucking demon from another planet it's weird but you could always like no no never evil I don't mean that I mean demonic I mean like possessed by the alcohol it's like just wandering around he doesn't know what happens until the next day when he soers up you have to tell him what happens like I I can't I I've had to like get his hotel door opened by security banging on his door in Germany when we were supposed to leave banging on his door finally the door opens okay get the door open Eddie is lying in bed with his cowboy boots on and the light is on else smile the light is on he's completely just completely out cold we go Eddie we got to go to the [ __ ] airport he's like what's up he just looks at me and the security guard hey what's up yeah like I'm trying to play it off like hey what's up guys it was that's not the worst story though that's not even the worst Story the car one is the crazy one the car one is the worst I I talked to him it was like I was having breakfast it was like 7:00 in the morning and the car was going to come at 9:00 and he calls me while we were having breakfast he's still [ __ ] up I mean he is [ __ ] up the plan was to drink all night and walk onto the airplane and then sleep all the way back so like stay up all night right so go so uh you know I go uh are you [ __ ] up did you stay up all night I like yeah [ __ ] yeah man I'm a power through I'm a power through and so I go okay well we're leaving at 8:30 all right you got you got to be down there for the car at 8:30 no no problem no problem so I eat breakfast an hour and a half later I go out for you know wait for him it's hour you know hour and a half sitting here 10 minutes later I'm like okay what the [ __ ] is going on so I talked to the guy was the valet I go hey um is my car here and the guy says what's your name I said Rogan he goes oh Rogan already left I go no no no Rogan is me he goes no Rogan already left I go what did he look like he said well he had long hair at the time he said long hair tattoos I'm like
that [ __ ] so I call him up and first of all he answers the phone then just hangs up like I'm in the back I'm in the back of this car and then the phone he didn't know what he did I wake up and I see it's Joe calling I'm like what I go what's up he goes you took my car and I hung up and I we're on the autobond and I tell the dve go where are we going he goes we're going to the airport I'm like oh [ __ ] then he keeps calling I think that was the Aon I don't know what it was but we're flying just a regular Highway well sounds like a good time yeah it was ridiculous yeah so then I up I kept sending it to uh my message my answering service or whatever and I had to figure out what the hell was going on and then I finally answered he's so [ __ ] mad I'm like holy [ __ ] I'm sorry I had no idea what happened I just woke up in the back of the car I don't remember the whole night I must have passed and just just jumped in jumped in his car but this was like it's like total like if Eddie there's a certain number of drinks where he gets over where he'll just disappear and he's gone gone the the Aubrey Story the Texas one go that don't I brought that up I wasn't I was just going to bring up the end what he know you know what else I found out I found out my cat in Japanese means waterfalls so now I'm like thinking something's [ __ ] up with waterfalls what are you talking what cat Japanese Tech in Japanese means waterfalls I found out the other day you're fine then you should you should be celebrating your tattoos I don't want to go chasing waterfalls this much for some no I need to know why what's that song from what was that band TLC TLC that was a sweet song I'm never going to walk in the ocean cuz I might come out of blob Brian you need to go outside and get some air so what are your plans for your music what's the plan um well you know I think the coolest thing I think with Lyndon is like we're just kind we're we're moving forward without um any uh deadlines no no it's not the deadlines we have goals obviously but it's uh you know like by summertime I think it should be done out which is exciting but I think it's like we don't not really congesting our thoughts with anything right now just writing music
without outside voices no reference just you know so said you got over your stage FR are you going to start doing live performances oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm putting a band together and yeah yeah yeah yeah you going to go on tour yeah yeah holy wow she's GNA be a rockar watch are you gonna be a rock star that term is so weird to me it seems like you can sneak it through from the back door just from just from having talent and being on TV it's like you just just sneak it right through I don't know I just I I want to do everything with even small things with a lot of quality and so I think like with the music stuff I just want to make it as you know uh as good as possible for lack of a better description but um yeah so I think people will probably be pleasantly surprised in the sense that they're expecting me to fail as usual so I like it people are expecting you to fail I think people always expect you to fail like you know I think really yeah I mean other than your friends obvious I'm talking about like you know yeah I think so especially me because I was on TV so it's like oh you're just doing that's definitely true if you have some success they want it to be it's hard to get into music after you're already famous with for something else it's tough yeah so oh hell yeah has anybody ever done it well Jamie Fox Steve Martin sort of Steve Martin his band's pretty pretty big for a certain kind of music oh he does like just plain music uh shows right yeah yeah he does he plays like banjo and stuff bunch of like you know it's a certain style of music but he's doing Su he's successful in that you know H anybody else Eddie Murphy oh that's right he party all the time that's kind of like what my stuff sounds like like that that's cool what kind of [ __ ] do you sound like what does it sound like you know what I don't there Linda and I both have like tried figuring it out and a dark Sarah mclin kind of O stop it don't say that kind of stuff why is that bad no I just just I could never compare myself to anybody but uh yeah no it's just she she just calls it uh uh powerfully pathetic which which is good power powerfully pathetic I think it's it's all very sad and tragic and romantic but there's like elements of classical music and stuff and some electronic elements so there
won't be any Cheryl Crow type all I want to do is have some fun I don't even know what that is you don't know that song all I want to do is have some fun stop it guys feeling I think supposed to talk about like manly stuff and listen we're we're so manly we take it in the other direction we're not scared to talk Cheryl Crow that's a great song it's a great [ __ ] song you don't like that kind of music no no I don't just I just don't I don't know I would do you listen to personally oh man Kent Kent Kent is one of my favorite band there's a Swedish I like a lot of Scandinavian music I like a lot of metal and I like a lot of like love the PES mode and the Cure [ __ ] like that so a lot of obscure [ __ ] that people wouldn't be aware of and then a lot of like classic [ __ ] like Susie and the Banshees yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't even listen to anything that's made before 1980 anymore I've given up Black Sabbath no black I listen to I listen to some Black Keys that's the only modern [ __ ] I listen to and then everything else is old stuff all I've been listening to is like Almond Brothers brother after 80 okay I see what you're saying I did I say before before anything after 1980 I'm like done I'm done except the Black Keys The Black Keys seem to have kept the soul honey honey and honey honey yeah that's right they're my friends [ __ ] I am oh yeah that guy too the 80s had some of the best [ __ ] ever but I mean like modern bands that like you hear in the radio that are like big hits like I can't get into I don't even know I couldn't even tell you I'm at a supermarket every now and then that's the only time I hear music I'm shopping and I'm like what the [ __ ] is this is this something new it's dead mouse just some we no it' be some weird [ __ ] autotuned [ __ ] it's repeating itself over and over again I'm like is this the new [ __ ] is this is this like is this popular right now I feel like I'm some dude who's like an outlier like comes into town every now and then to find out what the folks are up to that's what it feels like and as I get older and older it becomes more and more apparent I can understand like especi like I mean I like some like pop music I guess but I think it's it's it's hard for me to wrap my mind around certain things like how does that resonate with people cuz for me I always
I love poetry and I love things that are so much more profound and and I think people are hungry for that you know I think like even though like a lot of the stuff that's like really big right now is very superficial and whatever but like I feel like there is definitely like um I think people are hurting and they want to relate somehow so I don't know well I yeah I definitely think that but I also think there's like a lot of music that some people just aren't even aware of there's a lot of young kids today that don't even know what whole lot of love sounds like when you hear it through like really good speakers yeah but the other day man I was driving down uh Hollywood and I seen these awesome [ __ ] metal heads and they were like carrying skateboards like young kids and they had like one had like a death shirt on and another one had like a Motorhead shirt on and I was just like I I literally rolled my window down and my friend Alison was in I'm like hey I love you guys and they were like I love you too with their skateboards you guys [ __ ] long hair metal will never die so cool yeah I thought metal was gone in the'80s I thought I like this [ __ ] like black metal and stuff that's like you know it's I don't know it's cool I like metal will never die it won't that feeling will never die because there's always going to be shitty parenting you're never going to get rid of metal cuz you're never going to make people become good parents you're always going to have people just fun [ __ ] yes [Music] Slayer they just want to pound on the walls [ __ ] scream and just curse their circumstances and turn crosses upside down yeah you're always going to have shitty parenting so you're always going to have I did all that [ __ ] I bet that [ __ ] is on a computer I wrote satanic lyrics like every song had to be it either had to be about when I was you 14 15 16 all the songs I wrote were nuclear war anti-religion uh uh demons killing priests and stuff any love songs nothing about love no no not until like I was 19 or and your defense though when we were kids when we were growing up you know we're older than you you probably don't recognize that Soviet Union threat feeling did you ever have that threat when you were a kid did you ever feel
that see when we when Eddie and I grew up we were really worried that we were going to get in a nuclear war with the Soviet Union everybody oh yeah bro bro everybody did dud nuclear war was such a close so close when dinosaurs Ro the Earth how dare you how dare you look it's possible today but back then it was it was not just possible it seemed probable '70s like late '70s is it late '70s early ' 80s everybody thought we were going to war with Russia that was a fact until Ronald Reagan and Chernobyl effective effectively bankrupted the Soviet Union that's one of the big uh things that brought it down but when the Soviet Union fell apart then everybody took a deep breath and relaxed but until that happened there was always this constant threat that they were going to take us over they were going to go yeah they were they were in Cuba I mean they were 90 miles from our border setting up missile silos I mean there was a lot of [ __ ] that went down during the Kennedy administration so there was that feeling as especially as techn techology increased and then there was that Star Wars program that came on where they were developing these [ __ ] things to shoot missiles out of the sky they'd be Like Satellites that were launched up with lasers to zap missiles out of the sky that's like a significant part of the budget and a significant part of like what Ronald Reagan was talking about when they were talking about National Defense so we were worried about going to war with Russia it was constant when we were kids very popular song topic seems [ __ ] up right it doesn't even make sense to you it was a band called Nuclear Assault it was B the song's called nuclear death nuclear death nuclear dick suck yeah nuclear what else oh there's a crazy um I'll have to nuclear Holocaust I'll have to put it up later did you have you seen that video Brian that the Holocaust Survivor or excuse me the um uh the Hiroshima Survivor made no he made a um a cartoon you got to pull it up um I forget the guy's name something Ben is it going to make me sad oh it's crazy I don't want to be well it's a cartoon that was written by a Survivor from from Hiroshima and it depicting how it was like what the experience was like for the people on the ground it's [ __ ] up man because even though it's just a
cartoon I mean you guys have to watch it when I after I leave you can't handle it you don't want to watch it in front of us I the less I know the better about really sometimes I don't know I'll get sad it's kind of crazy there's like 10 different countries or more that has nuclear weapons I mean how many have them seven I don't know you just taking guesses over there son yeah I mean we know Pakistan India the UK certainly you know the Korean War we made 18 Korean cities disappear we did 18 that's why they [ __ ] hate us man they're like no more no more of this [ __ ] they just shut shut themselves off from the world can you imagine that 18 cities disappear just and it was no nuclear it was all like what hydrogen bombs and [ __ ] I don't know the bombs they used but they made 18 they leveled 18 cities in Korea during the Korean War Jesus CHR that's crazy [ __ ] we don't they don't talk about that too much yeah your head around that try thinking about 18 American cities just disappearing yeah yeah it's the whole game changed when you can fly when you can fly and shoot [ __ ] from the sky that's the game changer and it all happened all at once fly shoot things from the sky and then almost right after that nuclear bombs it's pretty nutty when you think about that because there was no [ __ ] airport uh or airplane Wars just a 100 years ago you in the in the early 1900s were there they weren't [ __ ] flying everywhere and dropping bombs on each other they started doing that in the 30s and the 40s that's when like they started getting better at rocketry and then boom 47 nuclear bomb complete Game Changer the whole thing takes less than a hundred years to go from the airplane being [ __ ] invented to dropping nuclear bombs on people is a 100 years that's nuts have you ever tattooed a nuclear missile I never even thought of that actually yeah I think I have I really never even thought of that until just now that is a crazy number that the invention of the airplane it goes in Ben of the airplane all the way to nuclear bombs and it's in less than 100 years so in essentially one lifetime we go from people stuck on the ground or in boats to someone who can drop a [ __ ] nuclear bomb on your country that's amazing what a [ __ ] weird jump in
history that is that might be the biggest jump in history that's ever been recorded that and I never even thought about it man there's nowhere to go is there only crazy where crazy is the only way to go I'm moving to Finland Finland a lot of Death Metal there love Finland what do you love about Finland what it's easier to go to Alaska probably yeah's so much cooler Alaska's gorgeous though we can make Alaska cool we just have to have more cool people move up there you're friends with the singer from himm right yeah you're totally into them they're they're a are they from Finland yeah they're they're Finnish they're like a it's almost like a satanic love metal band how would you describe him it means his infernal Majesty oh Jesus Christ someone needs to hold that dude down no that's what no it's I think it was taken from like good uh hold that down make him take his pills he's spotting all over my couch super poppy metal but like satanic love suicide MH it's crazy yeah get him to do I like it I actually like it Hill Sprints maybe a sandbag workout would be good dig a hold for today today I want you to be I want you to be happy you're alive I want you to dig a hole and then when you're done we're going to give you a cold drink you're going to feel awesome it's not bad why Finland why would you escape to Finland I love Finland I used to go there once a year for a long time if the [ __ ] hit the fan in America is that what you would do I would go no I was just saying saying it's like there's not really anywhere to go really when you think about it I think Canada do a move at least you would find out what the [ __ ] is going on for a little bit maybe a couple years of safety before you had to escape yeah but like let's go back to the Siberians like do they even know about it no guess what they're just happy they are happy but you wouldn't be happy doing you mean you say you might be adapted but man you would remember the internet You' remember driving around your badass car listening your favorite songs when I was on my book tour last year halfway through my house burned down and and it demolished you know just gone I was I used to live down the
street from Danny and I remember um I went I went on the rest of the book tour you know it was like uh I think like I had like a month or two after and um went through Canada and and I just didn't tell anybody just kind of you know hey I'm here and I literally had like what I was wearing and that was it and then when I came back you know I told cat my the other cat my assistant like I don't really want anything when I get back I'm just going to live have a a a gallery next door to my tattoo shop uh it's like an art gallery and we had like an upstairs area that was for stock you know and like probably the size of your bathroom or something and like she she went and got like a air mattress from Target which I was like oh no it's too much it's too much you know but it was so weird having to or it's too much yeah just it was it was easier just being as simple as possible you know and you don't even want an air mattress you're going super she got it so I got it so then I I I slept on an air mattress and uh yeah it was it was [ __ ] aesome was this like an exercise for you like an exercise of letting things go and no I mean I didn't I I never struggled with it like the from the minute I got the news but um but I mean I was in a clear place too even when I say exercise I don't mean necessarily like a strin but like a direct path that you chose to take a direct path of minim minimalist yeah conscious decision yeah yeah yeah and and I mean I've done it like in other ways too it's not a matter of depriving myself or punishing myself you know like right I was like celibate for a year like oh Jesus Christ what hey oh my God blasphemy you know but like but I'm just saying it's like it's being he as he leaves I think he's going to go beat off no oh you don't him he's crazy he's quick with it too he be back in before we even need him yeah that's ridiculous why would you do that I love how we when I was at the time they were like like on purpose I'm like well first of all I think that's way easier for a woman to do not just physically but psychologically cuz there's more [ __ ] dudes and [ __ ] dudes are dangerous whereas girls that are a pain in the ass if you date them they're not they're very rarely dangerous it's not like the weird feeling of intimidation so much more emotional and annoying they
can get emotional that's for sure but it's not a it's it's not like like you you've been beat up or anything like I know women who have been hit by men and then they're done with men for years I mean that that makes sense though to me whereas a guy taking a year off of sex like you can't find a nice chick it wasn't about like being reactive like to something like oh I got hurt no it's it was just more as making a conscious decision at the time imagine if you had just like a one year yeast infection that was a [ __ ] wouldn't even go out Edd's not even paying attention I know we've lost everybody lost we lost you totally man no but you know it was just it's just like uh I don't know celibacy bores me yeah it just shut him off he's like I'm done he just checked out totally he's thinking of his new song he's working on working on Jiu-Jitsu moves in his head at that naughty show thing I was I've been looking at that girl's boob this entire time it's pretty nice right it's pretty nice for a mon a mannequin it's about as hot as he gets she's pretty sexy she's Brian's all this stuff is Brian's this has nothing to do with me I uh I don't want to be judged by this he's a silly guy he's got a lot of weird [ __ ] on did he really leave because I said that word to no no no no no no no he just has to probably smoke a cigarette or something he's an odd duck but we make an interesting combination that's good he's a strange [ __ ] dude it's hard finding someone that strange that also is kind of funny and knows how to run things oh nice so we got a weird little relationship me and that guy yeah but going back to that the Siberians like they are happy what you're just going to what about nuclear war we going to pass right over okay we're done with that we're done with that I think um I'm [ __ ] I think thean like we were saying I think they're only happy because they don't know about all the groovy [ __ ] we have today they don't know about iPhones they don't know the iph iphone 5 iphone 5 is going to be out in a week they don't know about that [ __ ] they never drove yeah they never drove yeah see you're all excited well you're thinking I'm GNA get my assistant to go get me one you know [ __ ] Siberian dudes they never drove a nice car never listened to a good stereo
they're only they only think they're happy out in there chasing down beaver pelts that shit's ridiculous I think you could be way more happy today like in a way higher peier sort of a way but there's a lot of crashes today there's a lot of what does it all mean but then there's like wow this the most awesome time because we're not ready for that yet too much work well it's an amazing amount of work the whole species is going to to do it's that and they're also busy you know people have to feed themselves and pay their bills and you get caught up in that sort of work cycle where you're doing something with your time every day just in order to stay alive and it's real hard to get on another path once you're on that path because you s it's just it's just bad habits I guess right it's not even bad habits it's almost just necessity if you want to get by in life and you're a person who's you know you you have a degree and then all a sudden you have a job and then all a sudden you have a mortgage and you have a family or whatever the [ __ ] it is that you have is it X Y or Z the beginning or is it the full money what do you have that's holding you back but when you you get to a certain point when you've accumulated like a mortgage you accumulated a car lease and insurance and all this different [ __ ] that you have to pay for constantly it's very very hard to break free and get your [ __ ] together it's very hard to do what you're doing right now you got on the right path from you were on this like hellbent for leather thing like it's either going to work or it's not going to work I love you just priest go ahead boom it just you just went out there and it worked it worked fantastic and amazing but the reality is for a lot of people they got on the wrong track and then they got to change tracks that's when [ __ ] gets hard the key is you got to get on that right track from the get-go like doing repair work on your life no going back you can always get under the track I think you think so yeah I think you can always if you're willing to just go for it but Mo most people are not really financially able to do that it's too hard it's too hard if you have obligations it'd be hard to live a life that was dictated by it by I guess financials yeah sucks it's nothing
ever gets done that way you you know especially creatively that's like the worst possible reason you could be creating art is like just thinking I'mma get paid just just make you know all your illustrations to be about how much money can I make off of this probably wouldn't even work no they come out all clunky and [ __ ] and and insincere yeah like like music or bad comic book artists right why does he laugh you know what I'm talking about you don't you have your own microphone comic book artist yeah do you remember when you a kid and you'd get comic books and every now and then some new idiot was like drawing The Hulk and you're like what is this guy doing like the Hulk doesn't even look like this stupid I thought it was worse when like they they like remember Spider-Man when McFarland used to draw it and it was like really cool and then I guess McFarland wanted to like leave or whatever and do his own thing so they found somebody that just copied his own style of artd Todd McFarland the spawn guy that guy yeah he wanted to oh we got to get Michael J White in here man I got yeah I got to I think I have his number but let me check it with you make sure it's same one I ran into him at a pool hall recently yeah he'd be great on the I love that dude and he was spawn if you don't know who that was that that movie he played spawn which a [ __ ] badass movie but those Spawn comic books are a perfect example it's like that's just so outside the box I can comparison to like the [ __ ] that was around just in the 1950s and the 1960s the really dark story lines and insane artwork you know that guy that guy did some wild [ __ ] and then it just went away whatever happened to that dude a you're so sensitive I love it she's going to get well I'm sure the guy's Rich As [ __ ] I mean I I think if he's gone away it's on purpose you know I don't think it's all yeah do you know who I'm talking about the guy made spawn did you ever see the Spawn comic books Tod MC I see it's all before your time you no I know do you read Comics um I like Terry and the Pirates you're in you're in Tony Hawk's video game aren't you as an unlockable character that Tony Hawk R and they gave me an ass cuz I don't have an ass and I was like I remember they sent me like the the CGI
whatever thing and it's like because you go in and they do the little scan thing or whatever and I remember going like whoa you guys gave me like aad that's good I usually played as your character cuz I like playing girl characters for some reason yeah they gave me like my wristband my hair was all R like it's cool you played me that's awesome it's it's they had that skateboard where you stepped on I didn't know it wasn't my favorite Tony Haw game but it was that was cool seeing you and that oh man that's awesome yeah there's a weird emotional connection when you tattoo someone for like you are on them for life you know I know like for Eddie I mean that that thing is that's very important to him he's talked about him I he tear up when he talks about his grandmother what is that like for you to have all these people running around there that you have this like intense emotional connection with something that you've created on their body oh man it's awesome I remember one time I was um driving to work and this guy was crossing the street and I just he's really really tall and I remember he looked like a businessman with a button-up shirt and he's just walking across the street and like kind of curly hair and I was like staring at him like wonder what that guy's deal is you know what I mean like what do he do and I totally draw him he all like interesting facial features and then I go into tattoo that day and he was my appointment and I tattoed him and it was the most what it was the most intense story of like living in fear and regret and just making closure with all these with with death which is I think one of the harder subjects I think for people and um and then I remember being done with it and driving back home and seeing him cross the street again to go to wherever his car was parked and I was like oh it's like every person could be that guy that's I just always think about that people especially people who piss me off or annoy me or whatever I'm always like ah like you just don't know you know so it's it's a cool connection I think you might be the crazy link to the other dimension it might be you it might have been your magic that you used on Eddie there that's ridiculous you're connected to another like that yeah all the time that's so
bizarre you tattooed you cover talk in the mic bro you covered a tattoo once I you you talked about this before in a different interview where you covered a tattoo of a dude on his dick right you know cover a dick tattoo it's just so funny cuz like I think when the it's true when I first got on TV you know like they always ask you like the first like Elementary questions it's like what was your first tattoo what's the weirdest tattoo you and they're always like [ __ ] foot around like that question like so have you ever tattooed you know like a weird area I'm just like just say it you know butthole have you done a butthole oh that's very recent the girls are starting to do the butthole tattoos no that's awful um that's awful yeah I mean that's like ground no it's physically uh you know take all the funny stuff out it's like physically a very unhealthy thing to do like the amount of toxins and whatever but anyways baby what oh so the actual the the the more sensitive tissue probably give you hemorrhoids immediately I would imagine you know well you're going to have problems dude and then you know that area is really hard to keep clean for some reason you know I would have to go with the Dr Drew one on this one yeah I would think Dr Drew might be right about [ __ ] tattoos if you get L listen out there you crazy [ __ ] if Kat Von D is disgusted with [ __ ] tattoos I'm not get an [ __ ] tattoo that's just attention seeking and there's no art as behind that you know well maybe it's a beautiful job maybe it's like you know some roses in the center of them are all scrunchy and [ __ ] and maybe it's just done to be like the most amazing Rose like your [ __ ] looks like a rose now for the [ __ ] one did you have to have it hard the whole time when you're tattooing it or you know what I mean like when you talk to a woman you shouldn't make that jerk off in your face you're saying hard you were you were you were actually doing that well I could I could explain the situation because it sounds so much more perverted than it was but like it was there's a guy who um you know had been through some times and had gotten a lot of ghetto gang tattoos and stuff and all like homemade like T you know like guar string tattoo collection he had and so
we went through over the years and redid all of them you know and he had all these brand new tattoos some of them covered and improved or whatever and then I remember I mean we became I become friends friends with all my clients because you spent such intimate Mo like times like it's like 3 hours of intense we're not talking about like butthole tattoo we're like talking about like you know life and death and stuff you know and or whatever we talk about and um I always I'm always so heavy I hate that um but uh he was cool and then he came to me very respectfully with his wife and was like you know I have this one tattoo and now that I'm remarried and stuff no longer with Linda and like um I was just you know I understand if you don't want to do it it's fine but it's just you know kind of bothers the new wife a name on The Dick the word Linda yeah the name won whoever Linda is won no so like most of time it just said La no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no what did what did you change it to no so he comes I'm like yeah man it's cool you know and so like he he comes with his wife no he comes with his wife and um and so I was like yeah you know like I I'll put up like the partitioners you know that you see at the hospital and stuff so others can't watch or whatever and no you don't get an erection during that time uh I don't think you unless you're you have to spread it out like a butterfly though like so so I had him lay down and then he whips this tremendous thing it's so crazy like it was like l y n d a apostrophe s it was like Wow hours and hours oh apostrophe s Linda hours and hours of tattooing I was just basically saying it was quite a large tattoo large penis you took your time on it as well just to clarify the penis and the tattoo were both large yeah I mean it would be like you talking to an OBGYN about you know 8 in to you to you it might have been like talking to an obgy and to a dude who's got a girl touching his penis even under such inauspicious circumstances covering over please whatever it's not and it's not that way I mean it's like oh that's so silly it's always that way no it's not there's not 90% of it maybe only 10% that way but 10% is that way that probably got so when you go to your doctor and he
touches your wee wee 20% my doctor doesn't look like you if my doctor looked like you and touched my penis I'm sure I'd have a problem I might I might have to beat off before I got to the office stop it you guys are that's what dud do I wouldn't want to think that way does that oh my God you're so crazy why don't you go online and look up Dr porn like doct the female doctors who make out with the men and have sex with I know what you need you don't need medicine you need sugar so sad say no it's not sad it's just reality there's nothing wrong with that dudes reality is very sad well it's not sad dudes would be massively attracted to this idea that a a beautiful doctor is going to get intimate with them I'm not going to get intimate but it's but even just touching their intimate Parts in a some sort of a uh a doctor sort of a thing like so what's wrong with your penis Johnny sorry I brought this up I I apologize don't be mad at me please all I'm all I'm all I'm saying is you're a beautiful woman if you were a doctor a certain amount of your patients would most certainly love it if you examine their penis you know what I don't think it's that way much anymore and mind you that this I did that tattoo when I was like you know I don't know like 19 or 20 when you when you were even hotter that's oh everybody's [ __ ] today Jesus Christ that doesn't help your point it doesn't help your point this when I was it was when I was 17 my God that makes it better no I was like drunk back then and I was totally out of shape versus now yeah what you're saying is you're saying she looks worse no I'm just I was just wasn't saying that you can never say that to a girl I wasn't saying that I don't care I apologize so what did you turn it into I was trying to be funny at the time he just wanted to get like said Linda's did it say apostrophe s like Linda's dick wow she's this is Linda's if not anymore I wonder if Linda's still alive [ __ ] yeah she's alive Linda's she took grisela Blanco's place in columia Linda's down there running [ __ ] tapping [ __ ] and driv around in a 10 speed so what did you turn it into um I mean I think it was just like some Tribal Design or something a tribal but I mean it was like you don't you don't have that much work dick you guys stop
sorry she did some biomech on that [ __ ] it's crazy all my all my like all my work goes down to this some Geer [ __ ] tattoo well I want to get Tower seven on my dick would not listen we are definitely not saying that all you should have just did the portrait of his new wife on top of that [ __ ] with a chainsaw cutting Linda up like a chainsaw hitting Linda and blood splattering all over so it's not Linda [ __ ] that [ __ ] why didn't he opt to get the laser on the penis I don't know you know I don't know back then I don't think it was as as stop I'm like scanning my brain for any other tattoo reference I can jump bur laser or needles are you are you like did you have to like pull on it and flatten it like how did you butterfly yeah well no no no I mean like if somebody was sitting like if he was sitting here then I would get dental bibs around all of it and then I would just oh God this is awful no it's not no no there's no there's not in no way is it sexual of course for sure we're not saying that we're not saying you got off oh my God the appro Theo in the middle of we're just saying we're just saying [ __ ] man you guys it is it is a very uh extraordinary TCH did you guys just take your knuckles and do I had to give him knuckles for that one what did he say just said did you spit on it um come on man that's hilarious in the moment it was it was just perfect that's like one of those Daniel Tosh moments I'm sorry with the moment it was perfect he's ridiculous yeah look it's it certainly was not sexual I mean it has to be insanely painful you'd have to be like a really sick but then there's a lot of sick [ __ ] who are like really into pain right no I think he was more embarrassed than anything and he was really again like his wife was there and it was a very you know I think he was I would have made sure if I was him to have sex right before just just in case do you think that's Linda's go-to [ __ ] the Linda just you got to tattoo my name on your dick the only way this going to work she's like she's got like a headboard with like notches and how many dudes have tattooed her name on their dick that chick is what a gangster chick that chick must be maybe it was his idea
to get her back doubt it doubt it doubt it we need to know the story do you number you guys are still friends right no I mean no no don't call that dude up I'll email him no some things are hello you don't know me but but I know about your dick just curious yeah and you don't have to answer have you ever been in the middle of tattooing someone and for whatever reason you just told them to get the [ __ ] out of there like I can't do you you're giving me bad energy you're annoying you're you're crying too much or have you ever had like the stop a tattoo um probably because of stench a couple times right Bo or anything like damn um bad wiper a you do have to stop um no I don't know let's see um there was one tattoo that ah [ __ ] these don't sound like interesting stories to me but they probably are um oh yeah um twice there was two different people that um like their wife went into labor during their their uh tattoo one of them was it's probably because they knew the wife knew that you were tattooing the husband and just like one of them I remember was like Mir hot tattooed chick all around what's my husband doing no this this is a great story because it was it was very sweet actually um it was Mira sorvino's husband and she he was getting a pinup girl version of her tattooed on his leg and then halfway through he got the phone call and we're like ah we'll just finish it another day and that's sweet I thought that was nice oh that is sweet for sure yeah is there ever has anybody ever come to you with some like crazy demonic [ __ ] and you're like I just don't want to get into this I mean I don't do any tattoos that really go against any of like my moral I mean you know the crazy thing is nowadays it's so different than it when it used to be like I used to um I just tattoo a lot of I the people who are getting tattooed by me now are just more serious collectors so I'm not really dealing with a lot of riffraff or weirdness so but in the past I'm digging deep into the past right now so yeah I mean there's some sometimes uh people would come in and wanting to get tattoos that I don't necessarily agree with or like I don't I don't need the money so I don't need to tattoo you if I don't feel good about it you know if
it's something creepy yeah even though it is my gift to the person it's also a collaborative experience so I have to feel good about it so it also goes for like things that I don't think I'm good at you know there's certain things that aren't I'm not I'm just not good at because I would bet that you would be really good if you wanted to do like some Paul Booth type [ __ ] you know I like all like evil [ __ ] I like stuff like that you do that kind of Stu I mean yeah I I like just all kinds ofart you know I mean I think some of the creepiest stuff is a lot of like the old Catholic artwork and it's the reason that it's so striking and it's so um you know it affects and moves people is because there's like it's very it gives you fear it's amazing it's powerful so I love that stuff um you know I wear a lot of crosses and stuff and it may not be for the meanings that most people assume they would be I just like what crosses look like a friend of mine went to Italy and uh while he was there he took a photo of the ceiling of some religious place that the outside edge of the photo the center is heaven it's like all these Ang and the outside edge is all these demons and they're shoving like pitchforks up dude's asses crazy really intense you look at like all the herous BOS stuff I mean that stuff's like I think painted in the 15 1600s isn't like the the uh Dan Danish I think he was um I mean that [ __ ] was so ahead of its time oh yeah it's crazy scary and back then I mean they really believe that too I mean when you were drawing those paintings of the the demons skewering dudes in their [ __ ] like people really thought that that was going to happen to you if you died and you went to hell well I think carvaggio is one of my favorites uh you know from that ER I think he was one of the first more influential uh painters of the time that started doing Renditions of uh biblical stories and stuff but painting like Jesus and uh painting Jesus more in like a a very humanlike fashion so it it was even more real do you know what I mean it wasn't like this you know golden like Aura and rays and wings and all that stuff it's like he made him look like you and I and so you would see like crucifixion pieces and stuff that I mean you feel it it's like it's it's [ __ ] up when you look
at like all the old crucifixion images is like crucifixions are crazy just to begin with straight up it's a crazy way to kill somebody I mean you just around yeah it's nuts I mean but but in the old pictures he was always like in pretty good shape except for the the holes in his arms I mean he wasn't all [ __ ] up% body fat that's not what I meant what I meant was he was okay he wasn't all [ __ ] up like the Mel Gibson movie yeah but like the interpretation of it now it's like if you go to see that Mel Gibson movie if that's our version of what would have happened when he that was horrific I mean that was really scary [ __ ] like the the the beatings that they did to him and they had to have that fake body that was like bleeding in all these different areas I mean there's like a fake robot Jes medieval torture devices that have been made I mean it's crazy that people even like invented or thought of things that you yeah the racks and juston maidens horrifying [ __ ] cat piano have you you ever see that the pictures of the cat piano that they used to have this is not only like a hundred years ago where they had like a bunch of cats lined up and had these things that poke the cat and make them meow and you played the piano oh so sad Cates well yeah they didn't give a [ __ ] about cats back then the mortality rate for people I do too I love my cat more she would stop peeing in my [ __ ] house how many cat dirty little [ __ ] I only have one I'm not a crazy cat lady I just love my cat you want another one is it hairless cuz I have a hairless cat and they they get kind of it's the opposite he's got full hair cuz your cat would just kick his cat's ass all the time his cat's a Fluff ball a that's cute I can't stop my cat from peeing in my [ __ ] house she just likes to not pee where the litter box is this must be the most boring interview for you guys like talking about well I don't know I always go there you guys I wasn't here what would you talking we might be talking about this seriously no no it's not boring to us you're not boring at all don't even say that that's not what it is we just we talk about anything and everything there's a cat clock yeah the [ __ ] thing goes off every hour it meows yeah ruins the whole podcast in 10 minutes you're going to
hear meow and you're going to go what the [ __ ] there's cats all over the desk clearly the guy's obsessed with cats oh yeah you have a cat there's something wrong with him I don't know what it is I just like the lucky cat I don't know what the [ __ ] wrong with him but he's okay do you ever do Lucky cat tattoos I've done done one yeah before a couple back in the day yeah that's cool what did uh you first start off practicing on did you use pig skin no I just tattooed people but see I was no I was no no no I was underage so I had uh plethora friends that were underage and couldn't get tattooed so they were just oh wow so you tattooed them where didd you get the needles um well at the time I had a friend that believed in me and who worked at a shop I mean you know I was this was in the ghetto in San berardino so it's like things were a lot different than they are now and so like my first shop that I worked at remember uh it was called Sin City Tattoo at the time it was like on Highland and East Street which was like such a really gnarly part out there I don't know if it's cleaned up by I know there's a jail right down the street but um that's never good yeah there's like people getting robbed all the time except us CU I think we were tattooing all the thieves and stuff but um and and back then like the wars between tattoo shops were so different and it was all bikers you know like my my boss come to think of it like probably that probably wasn't even his real name I mean I don't you know like he was gnarly I mean there was Wars between tattoo shops oh yeah like if you opened up a shop in a mile radius that you would get I mean we I remember we'd get shot at um what what is it called the something cocktails with the fire and you moltov cocktail get those through the window really oh yeah it was crazy just it's just it was rough while you guys were working this would happen or is Happ all the time I mean I think my first yeah I mean it was pretty brutal there's reasons for my I feel bad for my parents cuz they're like oh my God they had to like imagine all the things wow and I was 16 when I first got into that shop and I remember going hey man I'm underage and he's like he looked at my shitty portfolio of Polaroids that were blurry and crappy and he was like H
and then I showed him my drawings and he goes oh okay yeah you could do it um and he I remember he used to say you're G to fly far far away one day I'm like no I'm gonna stay here forever like see you later sardino but wow you sold them down the river no you know it was such a rough it was such a rough place to you know it was just a rough place for a a 16-year-old girl to be at but um is rough for your 60 yeah totally it's rough for everybody that's a that's a tricky area yeah and I lived right down the street at this with the prostitute at the time it was rough you know I mean she it was it was awful be buddies no no I met her because I had been working at a movie theater before that passing out popcorn and like she worked there and I needed a place to stay next to the shop and so um I would pretty much take care of her kids while she would go in and out of her drug Kos it was sad it was very sad wow really hard but I I just knew that if if I could be close to the shop I could tattoo every day and practice and I would literally go in and open the shop and stay till midnight like you know it was like 11: to midnight every day I tattooed so much back then how long did it take before you were comfortable with the medium of skin of like moving it around pulling it to manipulate it tattoing yeah oh I was comfortable from the beginning but that was because when I was tattooing unprofessionally outside of a shop not I didn't know what I was doing so there was no bar to I was like oh cool you want to get a misfit skull that's awesome and like I would just tattoo it to be like yeah it was like eight hours later like but um then once I got to my first shop I had to unlearn a lot of things and I was like what there's more than one kind of tattoo machine and different needles and the cleanliness and this the the sterility aspect of it all the important stuff and so just relearning it but looking back you know it was actually awesome that I was brought up in that ghetto upbringing because it definitely is the reason why I tattoo the style that I do because um you know gangsters get cool tattoos they all get all the Fine Line black and gray stuff and I did a lot of names and memory ofs and all that stuff and um Old English lettering and lots of Hina and gestures and all this [ __ ] I wanted to
be a comic book artist when I was a kid so yeah I drew uh a lot of uh different wild [ __ ] one of the things that I did is I drew on my friends I would just draw on them like I would draw fake tattoos on them like really intense detailed fake tattoos that would take like hours and I did that cuz I was thinking about getting a tattoo you still draw oh yeah yeah I still draw you all the time I want to see it yeah I'll show you I'll send you some [ __ ] but my best stuff was when I did it every day that's when I was in high school when I was in high but I had one country teacher in high school was an art teacher it was just so negative I didn't want to have anything to do with art anymore I was like this guy's just a downer he's just was always NE I I failed my art classes in school but a lot of it's just because I was too punk rock to follow instructions but it's like I just I want to draw things the way they are I don't I don't I mean yeah let's learn about like the history of [ __ ] cubism or whatever the [ __ ] you know but like when it comes to drawing stuff I don't want to do twoo perspective I just want to do it as it is and like I'd rather draw this stapler like as it is versus like you want to do what you want to do is what like you can't you can't teach inspir like you know I mean it's like you can teach technique but anyways I fail I would fail all this these these classes and I'm like ah I don't need this [ __ ] yeah it's like you you have an idea that you want to get out you have your expression that you want to get out and the problem is when someone says no I don't want you to get that out I want you to work on it's like you you have these brief moments where these doors are open where this creativity wants to run through and when you're sitting there I mean in one sense it's good to be disciplined and it's good to be regimented and it's good to have good fundamentals but it's also good to just let it go when you want to let it go like you could learn all those things in your own time as far as like perspective and I think there are granted I think there are some good art teachers out there but I think that would be such a tricky thing to do because it's such a personal thing too you know so it's it would require a person that was well you know Doug stanh
hope and I we've talked about teaching comedy classes that you could never first of all you can never charge like there's a lot of people that have like these comedy classes where you you know they charge this ridiculous amount of money you go through all this crazy [ __ ] with them and they pretend to turn you into a comedian we're like it should be free you can't charge and you really can't give them any [ __ ] advice because there's almost nothing you can tell them I mean that should be what the comedy class you know what I was last one of the last comedy shows I came to was right here oh really yeah we're here all the time as a matter of fact we're here Wednesday night is uh Joey Diaz Brian Ken Duncan Trussell and me and maybe Brian if if you can come on sweetie it's a long story deep story okay we won't go into that but um yeah it's um it's awesome Place com the Ice House Comedy Club has been around forever it's been 1961 I think it's when it first uh was opened yeah it's like 50 years yeah I did my first set here in '94 really yeah when I first moved here from New York comedy's hard man I there's like there's a whole well I mean I just think it's like it's it's not anybody could just go up there and tell us Story I mean some people are really good storytellers but I think there's like a whole thing to it you know well you know how uh for you when you sit down and you draw you know your the you know it's like you know you know you know how to [ __ ] draw you've been doing it forever but if you hadn't never done it before or practiced it before really forced your hand to move in the way that you want it to in order to create this image it'd be almost alien almost impossible for a lot of people they look at the artwork that you do and it's almost incomprehensible to wrap their head around how how someone could recreate something like that how can you do that how can you do that it's the same thing with comedy you do it enough times or Jiu-Jitsu or music you do it enough times and it just becomes it becomes you it becomes you but yeah it's hard to get there but not really I mean it is and it isn't it's like Joey Diaz said it best he said comedy is the hardest easiest thing you'll ever do because it's [ __ ] really hard good at it yeah to get it to where it's easy I
just can't imagine drawing without an eraser for a tattoo artist that's just seems to me like the scariest thing in the road because I've never drawn something that I didn't erase something on or change or I wish I did something different and is is there times when you're tattooing you're like [ __ ] I have to now work around this well you also got to think about the time you're putting in as opposed to the time she's putting in I mean she's doing like you know you're probably tattooing 8 10 hours a day right how many hours a day you doing this well nowadays or were you when I first started oh yeah I mean it was so so many hours I never I didn't have a day off until my first day off I started like three or four years ago I started taking Sundays off wow did you ever have any idea that you could have some sort of reality show type success like this no I would watch TV I mean but was there any idea that you could have this kind of success I mean did you ever think that did you have this in your head that you would I just see like things and the like I see things differently some or I don't know I just see things like uh like oh there's an opportunity or oh that you can make this out of that you know and I think a lot of people maybe just blind themselves to that so I don't know I never wanted that it's not I actually was but it didn't exist before it didn't exist celebrity to us didn't exist I mean the Ed Hardy type dudes there was a few names it's the same yeah you know what I'm saying the course I never in a million years imagined this stuff I mean if you knew like where I was born and how what I you know where I come from it's like totally different than it's opposite of this stuff you know but I don't know it's not I don't know I'm not that impressed by that stuff it's cool it's cool and I'm very appreciative it's like awesome like oh I get to do more of this stuff you know but well when I talk about it I'm not saying it in terms of like your your your common perception of how people view success and look at her she's on TV it's not that what I mean is how receptive people are and how much resonance your work is having on people never in a million years would I imagine that yeah I mean I was like you know like I was like the weird girl or whatever you know like the fact that
maybe that's why I'm bad at compliments and stuff they know so it's like I'm just not used to that still yeah that's got to be kind of awkward right but it's a it's a a really fascinating thing done but now that I'm not like how he thinks I used to be I guess is like oh that's when you were hotter back then what see dude I told you she's still riding on that we let that joke we let that joke fly over our heads but she's still holding on to it actually accompl it's like a hot lava rock in her arms burning her soul I know no way no way by the way look how beautiful her shoes look today Joe what why do you like shoes or something these I'm just kidding I straight up came from Disneyland so I'm like there was such a stigma even I'm guilty of it too wa you like shoes or something no no well I'm not afraid I love shoes go I'm a normal guy you usually usually growing up you think tattoos like for me tattoos look my uncles had tattoos that you know I'm sure that influenced me but you know generally girls that got tattoos they generally weren't hot right generally yeah and I can imagine the the the amount of guys that who were thought like damn she's so hot she's ruining herself with the tattoos or something and and now look at her now you know what I mean most guys wouldn't think that though that's an illusion that girls have I think you know it's most guys you'd be amazed at how little we give a [ __ ] about like a lot of [ __ ] that you have it's just more a different generation that's all guys are in body shapes you changed the perception single-handedly though oh yeah we without a doubt you definitely threw a monkey wrench into the whole idea of what's hot and there was there was one movie with you took it deep there was a movie with Will Ferell I think it wasn't like an extreme com but the love interest and they never really addressed it in the movie had a sleeve you know what I'm talking about the love interest had a sleeve and I think it was fake or whatever but they never talked about it she was just a chick who worked at a bakery and will Ferell I think that's what it was like fell in love with her or whatever and that never existed man all the movie offers I've ever gotten are like hooker drug dealer uh vampire um what else
random goth chick uh yeah it's never club scene the cute chick that dates will frell or whatever that's fun yeah it's weird how the the perception of what tattoos are over the last just couple of decades like when I was a kid no one had sleeves my my friend's dads never had sleeves you know that's weird but then you know today it's so common it's I mean what how much more common is our tattoos today than when we were kids huge huge and you got to talk into the thing man you know Victor a really good friend friend of ours has a son his name is uh Tori and Victor has sleeves he has a lot of tattoos and his son is 11 or 12 now and the last time I hung out with him his son was drawing on himself for the whole night he had like just marked he felt like really cool cuz he was like his dad so that would be a for sure he's going to get tattoos it it just seems like he is maybe kids are always more open-minded to stuff because they're not like tainted by like Su but he would he would get the tattoos because he thought it was cool cuz his dad cuz him and his dad have an amazing relationship there's there's there's no lack of love in that kid's life you know I'm just kidding oh no [ __ ] she just hit you with the real son it is true though his his dad's awesome oh yeah Victor's a great a sweetheart of a guy yeah that kid probably well it's a weird wrof passage thing too for a young man it's like when some young kids want to smoke and they're you know they're not around their parents they want to have that cigarette so they can pretend to be an adult you know if they have friends that smoke like older friends or something yeah that or if they see their parents do it and they sneak them out and they they get them together you know that's what I did when I was a kid we sneak out booze saw our parents drinking so I'd find booze in my parents house and sneaking out into the woods and and we would do it cuz we pretend to be like adults you know it's not really like we wanted to get drunk we're only like 11 you know but we you know kids do that they they what the hell's wrong with me man my parents were so square and like sounds like your parents are just super disciplined yeah so where did I get it from maybe it's just a reaction to that the fact that you had a practice all the time and you were very very regimented
and disciplined and and you just became a a a wild sort of thing because of that because of the fact that you were so uh Boxed In by rigid sort of but I wasn't wild I mean I just I looked crazy but I was I just loved punk rock it's probably just music The Influence of Music I think it was I was like there's something there's more out there yeah if you're totally into Punk you're going to get some tattoos eventually you're going to get something something yeah if you're really into Punk that black flag thing you might get that really got those bars tatto like this last month I was like can't believe I haven't already the Black Flag bars oh really you just got them oh that's cool yeah that's nice and you're like oh my God I forgot that one [ __ ] no I was like how did I not have that already do you uh I mean you said you covered up some that were on your left arm are you done covering them or do you look at your I have like a few that like like one on my leg that I started lasering but hurts so much and also just again time consumption it's harder for me to get tattooed cuz I'm busy either doing them or doing all the other stuff I do so it's like but yeah there's a few that I think I would I mean just for the sake of making more room or something like you know get more room isn't that crazy though maybe the Spin Doctors would become popular again do you have any bands that are just like totally whacked that are tattooed on you no I only listen to Rad music but I mean at one point in time you love them and now you're like can't believe I tattooed those guys on me I think I've always liked Rad music I've always been cool you've always had good taste so with the ones that you you're thinking about lasering off you just have some ideas you need some space for it no I mean there's just some that like I I don't have regrets like I could live with them or without them you know but I think like I it's not I don't know like I haven't had that many boyfriends in my entire life you know because I'm always violin Brian do you have a violin no I'm just saying I know you got to be quicker with that Brian yeah you got to be ready with that son that's terrible um no but I know like like I've gotten tattoos for maybe the Hulk musicul the Hulk walk away oh that's what it was wow that's a
terrible you know the end of the sorry I'm just hearing you guys I'm sorry so you don't have you haven't had that many boyfriends yeah and I mean I think I've gotten like some tattoos for um whatever those relationships in the past and like my first tattoo was a j and whatever and I still love it but I think there's like two portraits I'd like to get lasered off you it seems like for you I mean correct me stop with that music it seems like to me at least if I had to guess it's probably very difficult for you to enter into a relationship because you seem to be like one of those Allin sort of girls like you fall in love with someone and yeah all or nothing yeah so you're ready right away all in all or nothing and then it doesn't work it's nothing and then just like it's hard to make that it's hard to pull that trigger what do you mean what P it's hard to pull that All or Nothing trigger I don't know any other way that's what I'm saying I mean it seems that that's your style your yeah is that bad no it's but it's hard it's not bad which cuz you look it's hard to make a connection with people that are like true are true to themselves and like most of the time people when you meet them they're putting on like putting out like a perception of themselves as how they would like to be seen so you're already going through like two layers right there of what the person really is and or sometimes they might even be bullshitting themselves how they' like to be yeah so like whereas I'm not by any means perfect but I'm pretty much like I talk a lot I talk about the same like this is the same conversation I'd have with like my homie it's like you know what I mean like it's kind of what you see is what you get you know and I've only met very few people that are that way and and so I think that often times you've tend to fall in love with this perception versus the person and so in my case sometimes I feel like it's all it's it tends to be intense in the beginnings and then I'm I'm continue being on fire and then maybe it's not so much that way but I'm also a very emotional person like very you know till The Bitter End well sometimes people can [ __ ] you for quite a long time before you really get used to what they're really like yeah yeah totally
three or four months in you're like three or four months is so short of a time I think it is a short amount of time yeah it is but you could find out everything about someone in three or four months of constantly being with them they can only hide their character for so long which is I think but I always wonder about like dudes like Paul McCartney Paul McCartney is a bad [ __ ] but then you'd hear that ex-wife talk about him and talk you heard the one the woman who had lost her leg in a motorcycle accident no she's demonic I mean the the way that lady would talk about Paul mcartney was like the most terrifying thing like it was what did she say she was ridiculous I don't want to hear about that stuff yeah you don't want to hear it what did she say super negative people want to hear super negative about if anything ever happened to her she has information hidden secret places about him I'm doing the best to protect my husband she's like just a crazy evil person who wanted stacks of cash from him and his dumbass didn't get a prenuptual and he got roped in by a woman pretending to be something she wasn't and then once he had a kid with her she just turned on the hooks and [ __ ] ripped her chest open and a monster flew out and that was her and that was all the interviews after that you would listen to the interviews and you go how did he not see this coming man how did he not know that he was with a crazy person sometimes you want to believe in I think people's ability to be something you know yeah for sure also he came out of a long-term relationship with Linda McCartney who was supposed to be an amazing person like really nice sweet woman by all accounts they got along great so he's probably his ideas of what relationships were like he really thought that's what you did you know you find someone you're just nice to them they're nice to you and this is just the way she really is he didn't even look for all the clues of craziness maybe I mean who knows you know I mean I always think it's like unless you're in it you really don't know what's going on you know and I mean right that's why you speculate it's fun and you talk [ __ ] at the same time it's great it's good times speculating and talking [ __ ] on how Paul McCartney got roped in yeah I don't know so you haven't had that many boyfriends
because of that because you're no no no no no I just no I think I haven't had that many boyfriends cuz I'm always in long-term relationships I think is what it is what he's like so you haven't had any boyfriends that way damn man you making me sound all creepy the [ __ ] where did he come up with that I don't know I didn't I don't know I didn't think thank you Brian thanks for having back Hom no but no no so anyways uh now the music needs to go on I know girl getting come on her tattoo again cuz it's really important story so have you ever been to the off Garden that is the most ridiculous [ __ ] ever yeah I don't know yeah love is a funny thing it's hard as [ __ ] but you got to fight the right person that's what it is I mean the right person for you might might be the right person for somebody else and F finding that perfect interaction with people it's almost impossible it's so hard so hard to line up especially for a chick like you because you have to have some like some serious bad [ __ ] you can't just have like some regular dude you know it's I think it's all about the heart really to be honest with you when it comes to like the the amount of like solidness that that I guess I require yeah but for a dude to not be tweaked by you being all hot and famous covered in tattoos and all wild crazy famous tattoo L tough for GU you got obstacle you need like a Braveheart dude yeah you need some malry Warrior type character you know it's like it just seems like I think that I think I I would just want to be with somebody who who can get it you know and like I could relate to or understand little chubby and is a comic or something kid he's putting himself out there that's what he's doing that was my creepiness I like a telligence yeah like women like Jennifer Lopez she's doomed to a life of bettas she's going to have to date these beta men and buy them cars and they'll be younger than her and that's it that's just the way it goes from now on there's just no to be a better [ __ ] than Jennifer Lopez Good Luck Good Luck fella who the [ __ ] is is there like you got like Brad Pit and a couple other dudes the only people who can date her dating pool is down to like five people and most of them are
married already it's like good luck but she she's got to go the other way I think you're going to have to have go that way too you're GNA have to get some beta manservant type dudes no I couldn't hand I'm telling you that's why I want to bring Brian into your life [ __ ] would be perfect he would worship you he would set up set up your website and set up your are you on the podcast he could really spice up your Twitter background right can make [ __ ] happen no yeah know I don't know that's funny [ __ ] hey it's it's the [ __ ] that's the the big I mean if you if if there is one dilemma that people find in life that's most prevalent in our society it's finding the right person it's like probably the the biggest dilemma that anybody ever faces when you're growing up especially me you're always like man if I could just find the right girl if I could just find the right guy for everybody that's like that's the the number one dilemma just like working on yourself first and then then you put yourself in a position you know what I mean because I know that like in the past where you know it's kind of like the hippie stuff we were talking about earlier it's like you know water seeking its own level and um I feel like like I look back at like my last you know relationship that was an an awful mess it's like part of me feels like oh my God I got duped or something but then another part of me is like I I created this to a certain degree too if it's like if if there's like there red flags that I failed to see because I wanted to believe that it was something else and people do that all the time so it's more like okay well at the end of the day like what's wrong with me you know what I mean like what what was my part in it what could I have done to now you know obviously that does not discredit people's like shitty Behavior you know obviously some people suck and stuff and some people are really good liars and whatever but like I think uh but you have to grow as well to yeah I think I think it's more important to put yourself in a situation where you can be receptive to a healthy relationship like you know when I was depressed I like kind of gravitated towards other people that were also sad and and that doesn't
help you know what I mean so I think as far as like what you're saying is like finding somebody at a level or whatever yeah there's that nice understandability like you know I can talk about things that bug me that may not bug like a regular person or whatever but it's more like the connection of the mind you know I want to be inspired by somebody who's equally as driven and equally like wanting to create and like that [ __ ] drives me crazy like when someone's into it you know where you're a bus boy or a [ __ ] famous yeah what I'm saying is you're [ __ ] you're never going to find a dude like that yeah so I read poetry and then why do you think that the crazy thing is I said a c word earlier Jesus did you really how dare you anybody dating like a Jessica Alba that dude has to deal with the fact that she's really good friends with a lot of aess celebrities right so that that's what's running through Guy this is the Siberia thing because it's like all those things are mentally generated ideas of what's important or what's good like St like like I don't see it that way you know what I mean like I'm not saying I could fall in love with with anybody but like if if it's your mind or your soul whatever you want to call like I could fall in love with that it really does not have to do with u what what the world's perception of you is yeah you say that but you going to find out how much that Gardener makes and be like [ __ ] you can't even take me out to dinner the [ __ ] kind of relationship we got going on here n it's not that way most of the time I have like issues with dudes paying for my stuff do you really yeah I think it's probably because I was my own set of issues is like you know I'm not a feminist or like I don't consider myself anything but like I think you know just growing up poor I'm always like I can do it myself don't open the door for me like yeah no that makes sense I would I would hate to be a girl and have dudes buy me dinner and then expect something from me no I if it's a sincere gift is such a difference you know but I also like um I don't know yeah you're going to be single for a long time kid it's not going to work out maybe maybe not down her damn I'm just saying I don't know I don't know you're too you're too much of a bad [ __ ] it's really going to be
hard there's some bad [ __ ] you know how many Rock rockar friends she's like really good close to yeah you get those guys alone they all fall apart but that would intimidate some guys though guys would be like damn she's she's best friends with him him you know that would be the most the saddest thing is if you like really into a rock star and then you started dating him and he was just a whiny [ __ ] you'd be like really man you stopped liking the music thought your [ __ ] music was awesome imagine if you started dating Mick Jag and just found that he's a [ __ ] this Mick Jagger's a [ __ ] dumb [ __ ] you're like what God damn it that has to be the hardest for a girl dat a rockstar and find out he's a dork that would be the hardest [ __ ] ever breaking up with the Rockstar huh MC Jagger that would crush the Rockstar [ __ ] yeah that would crush him yeah wow yeah that would be devastating rock stars don't get broken up with they do though they get dumped yeah especially in this day and age you know I think in the protected days of the 60s and the 70s like I've read some [ __ ] about Hendrick man I got so bummed out because I'm a huge Hendrick fan and I was reading an expert expert excerpt from uh this uh book about him and one of them was like about Jimmy Hendricks beating the [ __ ] out of his girlfriend that like Jimmy Hendricks would just smack around again we weren't there that's the thing it's true you know you're right standing up for woman beaters I like it no no no no no great culture powerful Jamie Killin no just cuz I don't know no no you're absolutely right you're the guy was a band member he could have been a jealous [ __ ] he's the guy's in the band with one of the greatest in his coffee might not have ever Happ beating IE that's what he likes little acid is coffee no but I mean who knows what really happened but reading about that I was like wow that's so like you read like some tweets that like Chris Brown makes and he's [ __ ] [ __ ] he makes these tweets and everybody hates him and they go after him and then he deletes these tweets what does he say just really stupid [ __ ] about well he's you know after the whole Rihanna thing he would like get an arguments with people about him beating up women they like really he's a [ __ ]
so they were like really gross kind of tweets but this this that didn't exist like in the the Leed Zeppelin days you know there was no Twitter you know there no internet if they had a podcast or uh an internet radio show where we got to hear them argue about chicks on the road you know and you'd be like oh you guys are gross that would suck that would suck it's like the mystery was so much better than you know it's like Robert Plant the mystery of Robert Plant I remember growing up being a huge Zeppelin fan I mean I barely knew 10 words that Robert Plant said in an interview you know I don't think I heard any interviews I just knew you know I just knew black dog was the [ __ ] you know I just knew whole lot of love was like the greatest song in the history of the world that's all I knew I didn't know anything about Robert Plant he might be annoying as [ __ ] would you imagine youve dated Robert Plant he just turns out to be a total primadana just annoying and stupid and always insecure and wants everybody kiss his ass like [ __ ] really damn it's like when Mel Gibson was screaming at that ex-girlfriend I'm shut up and blow me and he's like yelling talking so much I don't know I'm sure she was I'm sure she was but it was like we never got a chance to see someone so human before that was like a [ __ ] Mel gimpson me he was Braveheart and then all of a sudden he's screaming to some scammer some Russian scammer chick who's robbing him and recording all of his phone calls shut up and blow me and you're like wow like this is Mel Gibson man this is the lethal weapon dude what the [ __ ] actually kind of kind of just like that character in Lethal Weapon wasn't he like a crazy you know he yeah but he was kind he was crazy but kind to women what the C the wrong what was wrong with the crazy what was wrong with the crazy first of all is he was scary as [ __ ] to a woman who had his child like he couldn't even keep it together to this woman who had his child that was the scariest thing it's like he had a baby with this person she's watching his baby and he's [ __ ] screaming bloody murder at her that's a he's a scary dude you know did I freak you out the Mel Gibson [ __ ] no I don't know nothing about [ __ ] about Mel Gibson no no I just it's like I don't know it's
just you didn't hear that that thing when it was in the news no I really don't watch television St I like I like knowing The Human Side of people I love reality shows I actually do I like Mob Wives and and mama drama forget about it watch mama drama wives with the little girl the mama drama is they take they take six sets of mothers and daughters like that party together they're like 43 and 22 oh God 51 and they put six couples half them black half of them white in a penthouse in Vegas and they get drunk every day it's hysterical wow it's great it's genius yeah there's some fun in reality shows but you know it's it's it's really like Mindless distraction that's the problem you don't get anything out sometimes you need that sometimes you need a do you like that I like not thinking about [ __ ] and watching South Park or watching some mind I I want to be mindless it's like meditation I don't mind mindlessness if it's in the form of Comedy like South Park it's nice knowing how people really are like holy [ __ ] mob wives Chicago people AR really like that people aren't really like that they not no I mean I think you're put in a hyper it's it's such a yeah put alcohol they make them live together it's edited and produced and I totally believe that however there really are people that are acting like that on camera and that's F I get that yeah I love it definitely doesn't Inspire I that [ __ ] some days when Mob Wives come out are you kidding it's so stupid the The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills I watched The Real Housewives of Miami ad the other day just the ad and I cringed and I just grabbed the remote control and shut it off quick like just thinking that these women could enter into my life somehow or another through me watching them on TV but somehow or another they could make their way into my life and be annoying and yapping at me and they were hitting each other and screaming each other you know in Miami you got to do this and you got to do that come on I don't watch that show just I don't watch all reality shows just a couple they got there's got to be fighting and violence if there's not fighting I don't want to watch it is that a weird position for you to be in a reality show when you're you know you you're you're you got a very different
sort of a reality show because it's obviously a reality show about your artwork I mean it's about your expression it's about your originally we had a docy series it was a very formatted show was like where you you the premise was like you would learn the story about the tat like the story behind each of the tattoos and the interaction between tattoo and client and then that and then like that was 80% of the the show and then 20% of it was our own personal life stories you know that Were Somehow connected to tattooing and then as the show went on I can't mean I can't believe we were on for so long you know and um how many seasons were you on for it's it's it's weird because uh contractually it's a diff it's different we were basically on for let's see 22 uh seven years six seven years wow that's incredible yeah well it's a great premise for a show there's so many stories into more the it flips so it's like 20% art and 80% drama and most of it was produced hence how that girl got on the show I don't know you know that's it was fake F yeah well why do that see that's that's Hollywood idiots because I think personally first of all I'm a fan of tattoos and art yeah of course and just having a show where it was just you produce it you dictate what's going on just about tattoos and art it seems like you could do that though and people would enjoy it and it would be pure I mean I would watch a time lapse of oh my God that's old footage look how why shouldn't why shouldn't you do it that way I mean it seems like someone would be an idiot to try to do it any way other than your personality why would they not well you I think sadly it's the way it's not it's not the the it's the demand you know what I mean it's like but it's not the demand it is the demand because what it is it's like it's it's all based on money and numbers for the network so whatever situations and drama show Peaks and they have these tests that they run that's what they and and I don't believe in it I can disagree more with you this is why listen I would I I I I'm on your I'm on your side I know you are I know you are but the way that the network sees it is is what's going to generate more money and it's going to be viewership because they can sell advertisement they're wrong about that
though I know they are of course they're wrong that's why they've killed I mean they they played it out well what they're doing is they just go with the Box they go with what's word with what's work before this is the formula you know here's the wacky neighbor go you know I mean that's the formula I mean they don't it doesn't have to be that that's so wacky neighbor if you can get a wacky neighbor Brian you want to be a wacky neighbor he would be awesome at it could be the wacky roommate he's a breakthrough Talent I'm telling you he could really knock you guys over the top bring the bring the ratings to the top um it's just people enjoy people who are really good at things I mean that's really what it is yeah but people also enjoy train wrecks which is why you love the housewife show they don't only enjoy that I don't think they only do but I think that there is definitely people I and some PE not everybody but some people get lost in um in that they do but it's not like look there's a lot of dumb [ __ ] on my DVR there's plenty of dumb [ __ ] I mean I I I do I watch dumb [ __ ] both for escape and for material because there's some funny [ __ ] in it but it's also like a lot of like really intelligent [ __ ] in my DVR too like documentaries that Morgan Freeman show Through the Wormhole [ __ ] amazing show but it's like the same people watch both things and I think that a well produced version of your show that's you decide deci what the [ __ ] goes on you decide you're the artist you you talk to these people about their their ideas you create their tattoos and stop [ __ ] around with all that fake [ __ ] and it would be beautiful those dumb [ __ ] leave Kat Von D alone you stupid [ __ ] no I just think you Hollywood hacks you just got to cut out that middleman and you Cookie Cutter [ __ ] you don't know what you're doing leave her alone yeah yeah that's it you tell them yeah those [ __ ] creating some fake nonsense silly silly [ __ ] yeah I ended up just filming like a I secretly filmed a documentary for the last three years and we actually finally pretty much done with it and um and it's it's awesome it's so freeing you know to be able to do it that way and having the control and stuff and I I I wish I could have given as as much as I gave in my documentary to the show but I really
couldn't because it wasn't mine you know and um you should totally have your own show for the internet it would be [ __ ] gigantic just just film while you're working you're going to do it anyway just film while you're working Loosely edit it you know throw a little Bumper in the beginning throw that [ __ ] online and get a million views a day everybody wants to see good stuff I know but I want to create things with a lot of quality so I'm not I can't just like half ass edit stuff you know slap that [ __ ] together I have to get like my friend who does you know classical composure to like do you know you're kind of a control freak too no no no I just have an excellent I just have in Creative intention like so uh whatever but I mean an Excellence freak you want it to be excellent yeah yeah um but I think now nowadays just with everything I have going on just it's so timeconsuming to do a television show do you take on apprentices or do you have assistants or people who ever work with you who want to learn how to tattoo is that everen we kind of like don't at our shop you know I have 20 guys that work with me and I love them we're like we're we're brothers and sisters 20 guys holy [ __ ] I mean you know this includes like our shop managers and stuff like that you know and and like Dennis he's like my first guy I ever hired he's like still there everybody's we're so close like what you see on television those were you know like the the cast members that they didn't work at the with the exception of Dan Smith like everybody else kind of just kind of they weren't really the true hbt crew you know what I mean right but um and we love each other we love the way it is and I feel like when you have an apprentice that changes the dynamic because it makes somebody better than somebody else and the way that we work is that we're all good at what we do in different ways so we're all better and not as good as each other and we Inspire each other and keep each other you know what I mean so it's a collective it's like it's totally Collective and it's awesome that sounds badass it I mean it's Howes someone break into your fold how someone get that's the hardest thing is like we we've like we've never every time we've let anybody outside the circle in it's never really worked out
the way we need it so it's always uh you know it's it's basically just who we know and kind of comes through that way were there any people that you were grow when you were growing up that you look towards for for inspiration that that inspire you and and and and like just give you gave you momentum to create art um yeah I mean I think like when I was a kid I used to look at tattoo magazines and when I say a kid I mean like 16 and stuff and like I remember looking up to Jack Rudy he was like the black and gray god father and all this stuff and amazing work that guy did yeah yeah and so the day I turned 18 I beforehand I made an appointment with him months in advance and I was so excited about it and I went and got this tattoo and um and I sat there for what the [ __ ] six hours it took or whatever and it's one of my favorite tattoos it's so beautiful I still love it um but I remember him sitting there going like ah you know you you guys don't have any business in the business and all this stuff and I was like an 18-year-old kid back then and you know he's very old school and like sees things a different way and at the time I was like heartbroken you know I was like oh uh my a her I didn't he wasn't a hero but like he was somebody I admired his work just like shut me down but then at the same time like ah it's cool like I'll sh watch this like you know what I mean and then now you know fast forward now I we've we know each other and you know he's did you tell him that story um no he knows it he doesn't remember I bet he doesn't remember yeah but I mean I remember like uh the one of the coolest days yeah when I was tattooing unprofessionally when I was like an amateur like 16-year-old I went into I had heard that there was this girl who owned a shop in Culver City it was like the only female artist that owned a shop I was like whoa and her name was Erica Stanley she was badass and so I remember going down National and and I go in there and I was like oh my God we're here and it was just tattoo shop whatever and I see her and she's like really beautiful and like she's just like a power like she's like a force of Nature and um she's like can I help you and I'm like yeah you know and I was just probably being over overly cocky thinking that I i' had
gained a place in the tattoo industry when I was just a 16-year-old little pkin with a with a [ __ ] bang on my arm and it's like and I'm just like oh man so do you have any advice for me and I remember she's like yeah my the best advice I could give you is uh run while you can and I remember I was so pissed off like oh yeah well [ __ ] you you know and I left and then years later I understood what she meant by it you know it wasn't that she was saying oh you're not good enough it's just like ah like if you got the eye of the tiger you're going to do it and you're figure out yourself there's nothing I could tell you it's going to make you badass you know if I were to sit there and coddle you like what good is that and she she she saw tattooing as sacred and I remember I went to my first tattoo convention when I was 18 uh it was like ink Slingers I don't even know if it's still still around but um and one of the these guys that I tattooed a Vargas portrait on entered it into the cont contest to best black and gray and she was the judge and uh you know she never knew my name at the time when I was 16 and I got first place and she voted for me and I remember going up to she like oh congratulations it was really beautiful I'm like hey you know what it's funny when I was 16 I went to your shop and you told me that I should go run while I can and she goes oh my God and I was like no I'm like I just want to say thank you it's cool you know and well you accepted that inspiration the right way yeah yeah and she's still badass so it was it was it was cool you know she's still I think a pioneer as far as La goes you know and cool comics and um tattoo artists have a lot in common in that it's a a very much uh an outside chance success we're all [ __ ] up yeah we're all both yeah we're we're both [ __ ] up we both uh have too much expression and it's a it's one of those things where like you know if you say what does your daughter do oh my daughter's a tattoo artist like oh Jesus you're picturing [ __ ] biker bars and I'd be scared if you told me your daughter's a cheerleader I'd be like oh yeah football players yeah ridiculous but you know you say oh my daughter's cat Von D it's like oh she's a famous celebrity tattooist I've seen that show she's beautiful so a different sort of
you know it's like as you you tell you if you try to tell your parents you want to be a comic they look at you like good [ __ ] luck like you need to get a job that's going to work like that's not what do you really want to do yeah exactly well you know you need to have a backup plan and you know I don't thank anybody before you that's the the nuttiest thing about what you did is you became like I mean Amy I guess is famous too but he's not famous in the same way you know that show was that the first show Miami Inc was that the first of those ink shows he for whatever reason it's just it never it wasn't sincerity that's all is that what it is yeah I think so I mean people I mean a guy with the shirt off and I'm not saying that he's not I don't know him anymore I haven't seen him in years since those times and back then I was a drunken mess but um you know people can I think your looks get you so far you know and after a while you have to actually care about what you're doing and and you know what I mean so I think at the time it was probably hard I can only assume how difficult it would be for something so new like this a sensation of a new tattoo show and being like the the front man for that must be uh sidetracking at times maybe I'm not sure right and then you can make mistakes that if you could go back and do it again knowing the reaction to all those different things probably a little different you know and like yeah yeah yeah I know what you're talking about yeah so it's it's that that you know well sometimes it's hard when there no one [ __ ] up before you no one [ __ ] up before you that you could watch and learn from so you to make all the [ __ ] ups look at all the [ __ ] in the world and be like I don't want to be like them there there you go there's your example they and they you know and that is the case I mean you know we don't live in a vacuum we we all need those [ __ ] to show us what's what it feels like to watch someone be an [ __ ] yeah you know I think just as much as you need inspirational people yeah I guess we need them all we need everybody right Brian oh yeah what are you doing over there drinking s got your card [ __ ] I'm was chugging listen cat this been a lot of fun yeah thank you guys and I love hanging
anytime anytime you know you're very easy to talk to really really cool to talk to how long of a weight do you have on your like do you have like three years or something crazy like that would you be willing to draw a des Squad cat on Brian's back draw or tattoo tattoo I'm sorry yeah you know what I mean I mean I just need to get mine fixed oh yeah that one that's [ __ ] up yeah what could you do pull that [ __ ] up what could you do to that what could you do to that would he have to go and uh get that lasered the options are endless no you can do something you got options really yeah we'll talk cool really you you think you could do a cover up on that that socer maybe it depends all right beautiful look at that Brian we got something going on here for you sweet it's beautiful listen um is there anything that people that is anything you're selling I know you had a book out for a while you still selling thaty I'm not a good commercial do you have a website that people can go and stalk you from her book is actually uh they'll figure it out her books online right here's here it is right here oh you guys are forcing stuff on there I'm not actually no one's forcing honly I'm just like happy to be we're happy to have you I'm honored that you chose to come here and hang out it's already took so long too I wanted to come in sooner oh no it's awesome anytime you want to come back too please come back it was really fun it was very fun talking to you bye and you can check her out on Twitter the cat Von D you dirty [ __ ] and uh and also Eddie Bravo check Eddie Bravo out and 10th Planet jj. comom go and learn how to choke people [ __ ] I going have to get it together put it together on the map go to Des sad. TV pick up some Cat shirts Brian's got two available there's still some of the original available and the new ones oh they're not yet no I got to get them out of the warehouse okay we'll get them out of the warehouse um and uh thank you to on it.com that's o n niit t use the code name got your back what's today's date the 10th the 10th for two more days you get 18% off um and after that code name Rogan you will save 10% off any and all orders of supplement all right you [ __ ] we'll see you guys tomorrow with my good pal Tommy sigura and then we will return again on
Thursday with the great MC Danzig so uh looking forward to this very much and uh we have a have youself a great weekend my new studio is done I got the lease Brian and I are going to go check it out tomorrow and we we start planning the clock gu is going to do some stuff for us cool he's going to build some [ __ ] yeah that guy's awesome all right all right we love you guys thank you bye a [Music] [Applause] [Music]