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we are live that's it hello Jordan how's it going Joe what's going J professional video game player you what's up dude you're living the dream that's what every teenage boy who's sitting in front of his parents television and is you [ __ ] loser get some [ __ ] done with your life that's actually how I pick up girls I go on Tinder and I say I'm living the dream so they don't actually see that I say I play a professional game I just say living the dream yeah but it's like what's your dream the childhood dream everyone's like well if boy I guess right well when you first started playing video games was there any professional option um well kind of there was these teams team 3D there was the first big team in North America and they like I remember going to local fries and uh buying a keyboard and seeing like one of their players quotes on the box like I use this keyboard cuz whoa I'm going to be the [ __ ] best with this keyboard so I was like awesome like that was actually super like big part of my motivation like I want to be on a box keyboard box yeah now when you first started playing like how old were you uh I think I was nine when my brother introduced I have two older brothers my oldest brother was playing Counterstrike and of course I wasn't allowed to play so I'm sitting there watching him play all day you weren't allowed to play no it was his computer so he's like I he would like shoot me out of his room and then I would kind of like crawl on the floor walk in and like try to like watch him like get into his room watch and then when he would leave he' would go to school or something I would hop on his computer and I would play and Counter Strike is a weird one because that was it was first it was was halflife halflife Team Deathmatch yeah yeah and then like nobody even talks about halflife then yeah then it became counter- strike was like the big game that people so death match when you're playing Deathmatch Counter Strike you're playing one-on one or team versions of the halflife engine but against other people that's what a lot of people that play counter competitively used to like warm up Deathmatch mode cuz you just keep dying and respawning it's like a quake insta give or something you know
you just keep restarting and just kill each other to kind of warm up your your hands and whatnot get them working well together do do you have like a ritual or anything you do before you uh you play well I mean it is muscle memory it is calisthenics at this point though like obviously if you're a golfer you might not train as hard as you did when you wanted to make the tour but you still have to do maintenance stuff so like when I hit a death match i' get maybe 100 kills with each gun and then I just then obviously have Team practice which is a different set of coordinating strategies and stuff but for personally yeah I just try to make sure I'm still playing so if I ever feel off I could identify what's really off pretty quick and then I'll just go hone in on that gun or that part of a map or whatever but uh yeah it's it's a mix of both right do you think that people don't respect how difficult it is to play competitive video games cuz yeah definitely I mean it's [ __ ] really difficult like the the level of competence or the level of skill like if you've watch uh you can watch a lot of games online and that's like a big part of all this now which is really fascinating is how many people watch live games or even with Quake the big thing was watching demos I love Quake yeah yeah people would watch demos like really good players you do that too yeah I think I think part of it obviously is people don't know what the [ __ ] they're looking at from an outside perspective so like certain games I can understand Starcraft or League of Legends or water Warcraft you're looking at all these spells flying around yeah that's ridiculous and that and those those like action key moments normally happen over the course of like 10 minutes or or something whereas in Counterstrike or Quake it's like that guy just got that point he's about to kill this guy there's this 30 seconds left on the clock so I think that's actually more intuitively easy for a spectator to watch as a spectator sport but you're right yeah a lot of people I don't think comprehend what you go through that oh this kid just plays all day for fun and doesn't think about what he's doing he just happened to be good yeah it's always been fascinating to me how certain games get they get taken
seriously like certain games Garner respect like chess if you are a really good chess player like oh he's a sophisticated gentleman Dan he's a chess player yeah what do you do for a living I play chess wa interesting what do you do for living oh I play video games oh you [ __ ] play Counter Strike right I've got I've progressed over that I play Counter Strike what the [ __ ] is Counter Strike yeah well I do this well that's extra geeky cuz you're naming the video gam well you have to cuz you say play video games it's like saying you play pro sports to me you know right right right after a while so I try to make that distinction to do justice to my my profession or whatever so future people start questioning more about what I do now what level is the I mean obviously there's halflife that came out and then was the game engine continually upgraded yeah like I started playing like beta version so beta 5.2 beta is basically before the game is full released who don't know what a beta is there's like Alpha and then beta right and then the full release so I played beta before was even a game a full version in stores and uh yeah all the weapons were different and then 1.0 1.1 1.3 the longest lasting version was 1. six which I went pro in back in like I went pro in 2008 but it went how do you go pro do you have to join a league or you have to pay for anything sign up for stuff well there is a process it's not a conventional one like sports you don't go to like a high school team and a college team it's it's there's no coaches any sports well recently there are but like that's there's coaches recently and that we'll get into that but like you know how obviously if you're going to play in NHL you try to like Joe for play for a college team or you go to Juniors or Semi-Pro AHL in this case there's like I play a league called Esa they have the open division intermediate main Premier invite if you're an invite you're really the only people that have a chance that can get paid to play by companies so when I say I went pro back in 2008 it's because I joined up a contract with a organization called Evil Geniuses which is like my Agency for an actor and they had sponsors from Intel new eg a bunch of peripheral companies for my gear and they pay me to fly to the tournaments
and I Market them like I'm anascar car I have their logos all over them I tell people why their gear is good etc etc wow okay so now back to the Counter-Strike uh the halflife engine yeah so what is is there several versions of it that they've come up with like what what version are you on now so now it's the most recent called Global Offensive uh and is this a new version of Counterstrike itself or a new version there's not a new version of halflife right nope uh they came out with halflife 2 at one point but that that was the source engine so Counterstrike Source came out it was on that engine so for folks who don't know what the [ __ ] we're talking about this is what that means like video game engines they take the engine that's the physics everything that controls world the 3D geometry the video like the way it looks the graphics and then they take that engine and then they can Port it over to other games and they can develop games based on that engine so it cuts a lot of the development process out because a big part of the development process out is coming up with a a video game engine yep so yeah they half I think Half Life 2 I I don't know when EX came out if it was like 2004 or five that's kind of old right yeah that was that years ago so you like I said I I went pro in Counterstrike 1.6 and that was like everyone loved it it was like the original Quake like the registration of like my bullet shooting when I hit a guy like it it worked it hit him when you shot him in the head like some of these new versions of counter streaks that were coming out it was almost too easy like you would shoot a bullet like right here because the guy was moving weird it would still register as a head shot that something was up with the engine and it it was like they were trying to up the graphics and the feel and to make it look more realistic but that took away from I guess how fast the the computer talked to the to the server mhm you know so then there was a discrepancy between like when I shot when it actually hit the person and obviously that's why like I can't when I practice I can't play against Europeans because of Internet lag right right so I like that's why you would play on a land because that's it's the fastest interaction between the server and the yeah if you've played
online with a internet lag you get used to it and then you play without the lag it's like you go to paradise you're in heaven it's like having a waight on your baseball bat or something yeah it's but some guys got really good at it like some guys got super good at timing their own [ __ ] up their own lag yeah some [ __ ] though cuz then they're harder to hit you know some of them are just glitching around disapp [ __ ] so that's annoying so at our level we're really like Pradas about like what server location we play on cuz my teammates are spread around the country so we play on like a Denver server make sure that your ping is very low right like the Ping to the server yeah I mean like what's what's a good ping these days well playing in North playing in North America for Counter-Strike player like 40 to 50 is like what we play on but like if I were playing a southern in Los Angeles server from San Diego I get 15 because I'm closer but as a team since we're all spread out we're in we're in like Toronto and all this stuff and across the country we play centralized so and that's a milliseconds so it' be like 15 milliseconds uh I guess so does that register in your head do you notice the difference between 15 and 40 oh yeah well I could feel it it's really just like the the the gun itself I could feel it's like a very small like a lot of people don't notice the difference for the first couple years they probably play the game but once you start realizing the different action of The Recoil of the guns you could feel it between each bullet this is super nerdy yeah I know you played quick we'll talk about that later um but so my question is like how do you decide what game to become super Adept at because it seems like there's a lot of them how do you decide what sport you become Adept at but I mean will games have a life like where people won't play them anymore like gets to a point like try playing Quake one today try find well that's what happened with Counterstrike 1.6 was kind of was kind of what I was kind of talking about the new version came out and because 1.6 was getting stagnant like the since the developer doesn't give back to the game much and there is a new [ __ ] coming out people are like well this gets old because they're not pro they're playing
for the fun of it that's the people that helped me make this my job is the 80 or 90% of the community who isn't Pro who plays and is my viewership is the people I talk to for my sponsors Etc right so that was going downhill out at the end of Counterstrike and other games like League of Legends which is not a first-person shooter and uh DOTA these are like five vers five strategy spells and like uh that's stuff yeah that's when they lose me yeah [ __ ] spells and so you how I play Counterstrike is I just loved the intuitive finesse you could bring to the the game it wasn't just like chess it was more of like a you know chess to tennis or whatever you want to say I could actually I could just out skill someone simply even if they do a crazy strategy I'm just going to stand here and say well I I'll shoot you every time even if you think you're smarter just your hand eye coordination your understanding of where the mouse is going to move the cursor and I find a lot of people who play Counter-Strike were more physically fit people like there's an archetype to different Pro Gamers you a lot of people think everyone's a fat pimply guy well I noticed a lot of Counter-Strike players like myself grew up playing sports I played ice hockey all my youth a lot of my teammates are team athletes um or just who the dorks like Starcraft a crap for conom DS yeah and the thing is I have friends in those Realms too right so there are those those random people you got into Quake yourself right there's all sorts of different people who get into games but generally yeah the people it's like chess Starcraft is more uh cerebral game you're you're kind of premeditating a lot of your decisions which you are in Counterstrike too but in a in a much more strategic way you don't need to you could probably plug in any Mouse and play Starcraft whereas when my sponsor tries to give me a new mouse I like resist a lot because that's like I don't know a different baseball glove or a different pair a different curve on my ice hockey stick or different set of irons as a golfer like it really throws me off for a little bit are they all laser mice now yeah but some opstal work well if the surface is one color if the surface is multicolored on a mouse it actually makes tracking harder like
these people have these crazy designs in their mouse pad that's actually detrimental to like the tracking and stuff really yeah but no one uses a ball anymore no no but I did I start on a ball you open that [ __ ] up and blow it out yeah remember you have to I used to have um Q-tips with alcohol and used to clean the little rollers they would Gunk up with sweat and Funk oh Joe as a gamer he was he was addicted to that thing and I have a question if you're so good at Counterstrike can you pick up most firstperson Shooters and be really good at it on PC yeah on PC so you can go into Grand Theft Auto right now and just kill everybody that yeah that's not really a competitive but yeah exactly probably do that um Quake I used to play Quake all the time rocket Arena 3 Quake 3 in so you just have like really good understanding of what movement of your hand corresponds to the movement on the screen you get kind of a feel of it yeah just good dexterity most first person shooters are just you like you said I heard you talking about quake and it's really just intuitive like you play at first and you're like oh I have to look with my mouse hand and this after a while it's like an extension of your hands I don't think I do a lot of actions per minute that I don't even comprehend because I'm reacting visually not mentally yeah get there was there's like gun switches and moves that you would do that literally would come like tying your shoes yeah and then get better and you start playing better players you manipulate those little things that like there's that's what we call the meta game is things that like it changes constantly because it's all based on intuition right that's why it's so weird when you switch from game to game that was why I had that question because like if you got super into Counter Strike and then you know like maybe you know have you seen the the the teaser for the new Doom no oh no we should play it oh [ __ ] play it Jamie yes Doom there's a new Doom I'm [ __ ] I worship at the altar of John carac yeah he's the baddest [ __ ] ever when it comes to this [ __ ] but this new Doom the graphics are just so ridiculous it's just like [ __ ] Christ it's been a while right it's yeah it's been a while I I mean he's been doing a bunch of different kind of video games as well
but remember when the here let's let's play it real quick and we'll show you this CU this is this is really crazy it'll be to the left of you to the right of you as well rather we just play it on that then doesn't matter Go full screen Jamie blast that [ __ ] Peggy 18 look at this that's all you get are you serious that's it that's it that's what the f that's all you get June 14th they're going to show uh gameplay June show play one more time yeah June 14th you get to see the actual full thing being played I guess what are you doing you switching things on pull that again can't hear it yeah we need Welcome to Hell oh that's dope God that's all I need cu the Pantera but like when you would play that like if you play that game and you got used to that physics like I remember going from Quake to Unreal it would like screw you up a little even though it was awesome it was like it moved just a little different the mouse cursor moved a little little different and you know you you get your settings you try to like fidget with it and try to get it to a place where you kind of understand what was happening intuitively so that yeah that's always a we always right when we get a new game that's a first- person shooter you go in and see how the game takes your sensitivity if it's directly from your mouse or from Windows so that's called raw input so some games have raw input where it takes your mouse sensitivity and I can go in dial it basically into how my Counter-Strike feels some don't so some you have to go in and like they have their own um uh it's like their own uh iname sens ingame sensitivity and you have to slide the notch weird and it's got its own extrapolation of what a default sense is and every time you move one notch it's 1.25 the original versus another game Who and then there's Mouse acceleration which is [ __ ] weird I turned that off obviously the faster but some guys really loved it like the faster you move the hand it it corresponded to a different type of movement with the mouse whereas like under normal circumstances you move left you move right and the cursor moves left or right and it's independent on whether or not you move fast but if you move fast with mouse acceleration it moves way faster on screen it's got that extra
spin to it at the end it's like it's almost like it's a gyroscope or something like that it's like it's got some momentum to it yeah when when uh if you notice so with firstperson Shooters a lot of people set their arm differently on the desk so people some people play with wrist so they're called wrist players so this is like the Hing called wrist players with a wrist aimer right so wrist Tamer has their wrist kind of set down and when they're when they're moving they have wait a minute wrist tamer wrist aimer sorry wrist I like to mumble uh yeah wrist aimer and then I'm more of an elbow so my elbow is my hinge so I have more control so I use a lower sensitivity right okay can fter swipe larger swipes someone playing with their wrist is doing this so they use a higher sensitivity some of those people don't mind using a little Excel because they could do these little like flick moves and kind of just really get into the groove with that and it's smaller whereas I have bigger motions that make me more comfortable so if I have a little bit of excel I just I want it to be as true as possible to my actual hand cuz I'm doing these bigger movements do you have a large mouse pad as well uh yeah but I I actually have two on top of each other I'm one of the few people who uses like a hard mouse pad versus just cloth so I had like the plastic feel and I have to like replace it like every 3 months cuz I grind it down who so like my sponsors are like sending me down how many hours you playing a day son do you get outside you know about vitamin D yeah that's it I got I live in San Diego man you know I'm outside there you go how like how many hours do you have to play a day to stay fit um well when we're I say fit in the loosest possible I mean but it is a sort of but it is a sort of you know in shape for the game calisthenic just like yeah when I take a vacation I come back I'm like whoa this looks weird for a second yeah for a couple weeks even I just come back but I'll get into it quick um if we have a tournament coming up since it's very team Centric like we dry run we premeditate a dozen strategies on the counter terce then on the terrrace side like you really try to memorize what you and your teammates are going to do so if something that is thrown a wrench into your gears you have to react on the Fly
somewhat within a certain scale of thought so when I'm playing for a tournament that's like we get on at 3:00 p.m. we end at 11:00 p.m. so whoa Jesus Christ what about food what about water oh yeah bathroom breaks you guys do p you this is what I expelled the archetype no like for instance when we do these boot camps three out of five of us at least wake up and go to the gym we wake up go to the gym shower we play on our own like death match chill eat and then like take that like hour before to like make sure okay when you play on your own when you're saying you play on your own death match what does that mean so you connect to a public server maybe under an alias so people don't give a [ __ ] because everyone knows our names in the game so we'll like go in a death match kind of hidden and we'll just like you just kill respond kill respond Death Match is in like a real mode like we don't care about our stats we're just just having fun we might like sometimes I purposely look away from a doorway so when some guy comes through and I practice a 90 degree turn and hitting him in the head so I just constantly have my my back to a guy so when he comes I can hear him and I flick around that's the thing that a lot of people don't know about video games is that you can hear in three dimensions too like if something's coming back behind you back to your right you can actually hear it back into to your right which is really spooky yeah yeah we use sound all the time to manipulate things or we make it seem like they didn't or like we don't know they're behind us I'll run out this doorway and I know a guy's trailing me so when I run to the left my teammate's on the right waiting for him to come shoot me on the left so like we manipulate sound all the time so it's yeah it's a huge part of so are you guys when you plan out your strategies do you guys like do you have like a video chat where you go over like these strategies in and physical form or do you write it out like how do you so obviously first of all when sometimes when we boot camp we're all on the same location so if we have a big tournament in Stockholm we go to Stockholm 10 days in advance and we go to that's the best teams in Counterstrike are in Europe that's just where they are our team is never my team is I've won a couple World Championships
in the old game but I've never been a World Champ in the new game yet like we cuz it's a team game and like we we'll get to semis or something but those guys are the the [ __ ] and I'm on friends with all them but that point aside um wonder why Europe wait what what was the question was it um you were talking about Jesus what was the original question um getting together strategy oh so how we go strategy so yeah so on offense you dry run in a server we all connect to the same private server and we just um basically we're like okay we're going to take this bomb site what number of ways can we do it if we have a full economy meaning do we have every grenade in our Arsenal do we have no grenades do we have to dry walk in we say dry when we have nothing to really assist us no smoke grenades no flash so we say hey we're going to three dry walk into this bomb site you two watch our flank so that means they're not going to throw anything like right so like if we're going to hit a this room right here and we're going to come in and kill Joe Rogan if we wanted to come in here we'd throw a flashbang through that door right and then we'd SM smoke off the kitchen right here so no one in the kitchen has Vision on the people coming through that doorway and then you know we expect the only angles they could hold are under that TV and behind where uh yeah where he's sitting back here Jamie Jamie I had his name I wanted to say Riley for some reason Jamie and so but if yeah exactly Riley R bad of names right um so you you would but if we have no grenades obviously we're coming into Joe's Studio dry right MH no lube so these um strategies are based upon the G the geometry of the room it's based on the the type of the map how fast if we're we have things called fakes where we'll throw everything in here and make it look like we're coming to kill you and all side the three of us are taking your teammates out who we're catching on the rotation cuz we're saying when we throw all the [ __ ] in this room Joe's going to say guys they're coming in they're coming in which is going to cause your guys watching the Outback to come towards you and help you and then we're going to we're going to jump them in the backyard and so these strategies are all planned out in advance and you have names for them yeah so we'll call
it like Sonic or Gatorade or you can hear each other but you can't hear them yeah we we connect to a third party software like Mumble or teams speak it's kind of like Skype but you press a hot key it's like a walkie-talkie and so you will talk to each other while you're playing the game like look out he's behind you like that does anybody hack into your line and they can like find out what you're saying back in the day that was kind of like a thing that would happen between friends like you're playing you do we call them 10 man where you pick two captains and everyone throws their name in a hat and you play random five vers five teams and you're all in the same voice server well one guy will you could you can clone the program and open it again he'll come in and join your channel while he's playing so he'll have like one ear on what you guys are doing and that's like a scummy thing friends do to each other dirty person but when we're playing out a pro level it can't happen because we're isolated now with online gaming one of the things that was a real problem with Quake was Bots was people that would have aiming Bots where they couldn't miss and you would get on a server and some guy would be shooting guys that were like jumping through the air like shooting you in midair couldn't miss and you did Kill Everybody Do they have that with Counter Strike yep there's wall hack and and Aimbot so wall wall hack is just obviously transparent walls you can just see everything those guys are piece of [ __ ] and Aimbot and they're all piece of [ __ ] right so we've all like I say a majority of Pros have messed around with it for fun with their friends like yo guys let's go cheat vers each other and see how gnarly it is and like we used to do that back in the old versions in the new game you can't even screw around with it cuz they have such a crazy anti-che which is what I was just going to say now it's really hard to do that you have to literally it's like actually a big it's a multi-million dollar industry cheating in competitive games it's not like a huge huge industry but people sell like they update it every time the game developer uh creates a better like firewall or whatever for the cheats they like go in look at the code make it find a way around it to do their Aimbot yeah Jesus Christ yeah but
obviously at Pro level I don't deal with cheaters oh actually that's actually wrong but last year there was the first ever time at a pro level where people found a way to cheat and the guy got banned for life from tournaments for life for [ __ ] for Life For Life well cuz he cheated at like a land qualifier supposedly land local area network where we're all they were like a French player and he literally got caught it's like the smallest cheat ever found they found a way to like it's like 50 kilobytes and they inserted it and like it was like a trigger bot so it wasn't a full-time Aimbot so he could press a button and it would snap to the nearest enemy so even if they're behind a wall so he could be chilling and just press this button and it would like Snap through the wall and you knew a guy was about to come around that Corridor or something it was super low key but super scummy what how' they catch him um I forget the series of events but there was some like red flag on his account and then like the people have the ability to like go like zoom in and narrow their scope onto One account and like scan their system and they did that and they found some shady traces of like cheating and then he admitted it and he's like I'm sorry guys I can't lie anymore and wow and so now he's done for the rest of his life yeah what if he comes back with a different name yeah well I mean we'd see his face we know what he looks like what if he gets plastic surgery that's it J it up grows a big beard or something the plastic surgery yeah right plastic surgery pretty epic these days couldn't guy just apologize I mean that's what he did formally but the thing is is it's like pretty scummy like that's like someone it's not only roiding that would be like having jetpacks on your feet playing football like and almost like poisoning the opponent yeah it's it's not yeah it's not just roiding that's that's like God power this is like Nancy carrian yeah like you remember Nancy car and Tanya Harding where T Harding hired someone to whack Nancy carrian in the legs like get L that's next level [ __ ] so um so there's very few ways that a person could cheat in the professional realm there's things like so you have a little mini map a radar you could make it so all the other team shows up on their radar too oh so you could find out
where you so when you're playing you know where your guys are at any given moment exactly and you could make a hack so that other people little dots moving around the rotating map which are you teammates you can make it to all 10 people in the game show up or whoever many are but if you try to do that professionally you'd get banned for oh yeah like you might be able to have a button that toggles it on and off and like if no admin is watching you but when you play a tournament you have like people walking behind you that so crazy now what kind of money is involved in this now like how so which facet of it right what can like okay give me the top of the food chain first like what's the top of the food chain video gameer make per year uh well so I play counter right remember League of Legends cter League of Legends is huge right now League of Legends League of Legends because the game developer themselves was I don't even know what that is is that like a superhero game it's yeah five vers five it's like it's like DOTA I don't know if you've heard of DOTA either it's five vers five overview um you you go from one end to the corner of the map through three different lanes and yeah spells and different Heroes and you I'm only interested in first person stuff yeah that's way more exciting that overhead view [ __ ] well regardless those people yeah that's like you said I've always been a first first person shooters but yeah those games they their developer was the first one to really get involved with the competitive community and give a bunch of prize money back like $10 million tournaments like insane so like some of these players in the past couple years have made like over a million dollars each because of those tournaments but if you're talking like the average salary of League of Legends player they're all making couple hundred grand a year six figures no [ __ ] so that's for the top guys yeah so like for me and my teammates we can all make six figure salaries see your parents have got to [ __ ] respect that right at a certain point in time you know go Mom do you know what a lawyer makes okay I make that so go tell your [ __ ] friends I'm a lawyer get off my back yeah I had cool ass parents luckily like my dad was kind of the reality
check but in a positive way like you realize that this is kind of a volatile career like you're probably going to like not this might not apply to anything after you've done competing luckily for me I've done a lot of little things that I kind of have some connections but yeah after you're done competing assuming you're going to be done competing going to be done not just addict your life but no but that's the thing is uh yeah you don't know what it's going to be but my mom was always like I credit why I went pro to kind of her being cool with me like she would drive me to Las Vegas from San Diego Arizona Northern California cuz she saw how into it I was and I was like and I included her on it and I think that was a big thing for any of you out there who want to like pursue gaming you can't just like [ __ ] ignore everything in your life and get bad grades and do all the [ __ ] in school you have to like balance stuff right so like I was kind of like a nerd in that sense at a young age I played Icee came home did my school workor played Counter Strike the rest of the night and I told my mom every night who I'm playing with what team what level I'm at and so when I finally said hey Mom I can go to this tournament I'm old enough cuz they had an age limit like you had to be 15 I was like I really want to go and so she started driving me and like pretty soon after I was making a name for myself on the west coast like there's this little kid sounds like a girl he's [ __ ] [ __ ] everybody up he's like little munchkin and he's just he's insane at the game individually but obviously you need to be a good team player so everyone kind of spread my name but my mom was yeah right there driving me to these lands I would play we' get there at like 10 a.m in Irvine or something and she would be knitting and hanging out go see a movie come back pick me up at 2 am drive me home to San Diego that's so crazy now like Starcraft is still a huge game Starcraft is awesome I for what's the biggest game right now it's probably first League of Legends and DOTA and Counter-Strike us three wow so star but I star Tre kind of hit a plateau 2012 what was that about I think people got bored with yeah I don't know that exactly why just twitch really blew it up so twitch is streaming right like
you stream twitch blew it up because so twitch is a website where people stream videos yeah I don't know so you watch the video games being played it's like webcam models for gamers where these guys are making thousands and thousands of dollars an hour just for playing video games so that's the and you get tips and donations and all [ __ ] ti so yeah yeah exactly uh in some cases I might do you squirt on stream there there's no squirting man it's been proven it's p okay so let me circle around all the things you just said okay P first all right squirting or not R Kelly squirting is like the sexual Chemtrails that's what it is the people believe in it they won't let it Go's real real no it's it's p been proven by scientist I'm pissing my now it never existed until a few years ago all these years all these years women for all these years were holding in their pee and then someone told them they don't have to anymore and they started just peeing all over guys call squirting that was the baby boom right there yeah I mean that's exactly what's going on it's kind of the same thing dude it's that shit's funny though yeah on that note people do a lot of crazy [ __ ] for cameras I started becoming somewhat of a different person when I first started streaming because the chat itself is like like a comedian right like you get up there you get high off the People's Energy of like interacting right with you so while you're playing do you have a separate monitor that two monitors two webcams two monitors a studio mic like this one hanging above me a studio mic while you're playing like I said I have a high voice I need to like not Pierce people's ears well you were saying that before the show you were saying your voice is so high that if you go what the [ __ ] yeah like I need this mic otherwise freak people out but so uh I don't know how we got to twitch but yeah twitch is huge they got bought by Amazon for $970 million what the [ __ ] Amazon what are you doing with your money yeah no it's because it's got so the League of Legends finals last year had more viewership I think than the NHL standy cup and the rose bll combin what it's going to it's the it's the future Joe it it's going the it's the future and the reason the ad value is so overwhelmingly valuable is because
the interaction right everyone's chatting they're they're like talking directly to it when you're on a couch watching a TV you're like oh this commercial is [ __ ] dumb or oh cool Super Bowl commercial on Twitch you're like wow look at this [ __ ] clown in the commercial oh that's awesome or that's a cool product or whatever but you're typing right so the engagement is there stats are there you literally I have on my channel I have one button I click and I have my demographic what countries watch me how many hours they watch I have all the stats on my page that I can export to my sponsors or whoever supports my page whoa okay let's go to this [ __ ] website we have to investigate check out one of our past ones like I do we do them with Kim all the time let's watch some real players I want to see some real players no disrespect Brian but I like to see guys who actually know what the [ __ ] they're doing um when you're playing this and you're doing this like what's an average viewer like how many how many viewers average do you get I probably I get like four to 5,000 concurrent at a time right four or 5,000 is normal my teammate has probably I have a teammate who streams a lot more than me he gets like 10 to 15,000 okay let's watch your game Let's watch Counterstrike so this is all the different games that are available that you can watch you can actually watch poker and music now hold on a second you can watch poker guys play poker yeah from from their home so you watch people play video live video tournaments or yeah so when my buddy Griffin's actually huge at poker my buddy shaguar is his name he used to be a pro Counterstrike player he's up like 6 million in poker click on click on one of these and let's see what the [ __ ] goes on look how many viewers are this gu this guy's from Poland actually I met him in Poland while this live right now 33,000 Jesus Christ so what's 27 million what is that's his overall viewership [ __ ] Christ and so this guy is this is Counter-Strike boy the the graphics are crude so it's yeah it's uh they so that's an AK-47 what his volume up what is he saying so this is two polish teams he's speaking polish this guy's actually polish I've met him when I was in a tournament Poland really the the team on
the right verus Pro is like the the best team in Poland they're playing Gamers too for an online leag so I guess the graphics are not that important because this is seems really dated yeah yeah yeah older counter strikes like compared to the old version of Counter Strike this is like a big upgrade so like that's been the thing with that's actually kind of made it cool is that cuz the obviously the crazier the graphics and the physics the the gameplay itself is less true like you remember playing Quake how'd that look right like if Quake was super modernized I have a feeling that the Integrity of the physics would would go downhill yeah well that was one of the things that people didn't like about the newer games is the physics changed like Quake 2 changed and then Quake 3 became more like Quake 2 so you see the chat on the right everyone's going nice a lot of people like or Quake 3 rather became more like Quake one because everyone bring their feedback like oh Quake 2 did this I don't like it was slower the thing about Quake two is like the movement was slower but the graphics were better but then Quake 3 was like sort of the best Jamie can you find one of the hot chicks plane Counter Strike that's that's that's the new thing is the cam girls are now becoming gamer girls and in theire so that's what I've been training Kim condom to do and a couple other girls is to to play games you're ruining you're ruining the movement Brian there's all these there's all these girls who are like we got to stop showing our cleavage and be taken seriously and I'm like no show your cleavage you'll make money yes no but yeah there how he ruining the movie then no I was joking cuz like he was like bring pull up one of these cam girls up Jamie okay so she's cool she gets [ __ ] a lot this girl she's from Canada met K the kitty plays so she gets [ __ ] a lot because she spends a lot of time interacting and not playing yeah so she's sitting there chatting but she's an attention [ __ ] she's Met she's cool yeah right so I've met her she's a cool person she just likes attention but she knows she probably makes I don't know what she makes this is me just bullshitting but she me makes 10 to 20 grand a month yeah you know hold the [ __ ] on this girl makes 10 to
20 let's let's listen to what she has to say Jamie chat is this s gonna play if anyone watching Joe Rogan stream right now can you go in Kitty's chat and say something there it ising I knew they would all right some cat so if you guys want to play with me this is the best time to come play with me um so we can get a Joe Rogan spam in the chat probably just by saying this I'm sure we can twitch.tv/ Kitty there it is powerful Joe Rogan so that's why it kind of gets adictive you see like I started streaming and people would be like so if you scroll down I'll text her on the page can you scroll below you know her oh you text her like you know her as a human being could you scroll down and show like where it says you can tip so right if you keep going down it'll say like donate somewhere contribute see so right there if you click contribute make a donation any donation of $3 or more will pop up as a fan letter on the Stream So what people do is they donate $100 to say hey Kitty hope you have a great day or $5 or $3 or you have a minimum right scroll back so we can see the uh chat the chat Joe see Joe Rogan they're going off hey Jordan Joe Rogan see everyone's going off Joe Joe I love this [ __ ] get what's cool pull on she see what she saying and people can subscribe to you kind of like you know uh and you can have like $5 a subscription and if you have like shitload of subscribers every month and that just I can't hear both of you guys at the same time turn turn her off then so we can't hear what are you saying so you can subscribe to channels right that's one of the the things that you can do like her subscription is uh $5 to subscribe to her Channel and so every month that subscription renews so she has like I mean subcription 10,000 10,000 people or whatever that's so it's like a ,000 a month she makes $50,000 a month I mean not her you also split the sub with the website so some people get a better deal but a lot get 5050 so $2 she's trying to figure out what's going on yeah go back to her that's me Olive Garden oh yeah let's get an Olive Garden spam going on you guys need to tell Kitty to do the flashbang dance I don't think he looking he is tell him Jordan says do the
flashbang dance get camera so me and her had to dance off one land so I'm going to try to get her to do this dance I can't do it don't why am I on Mr Red Band why am I on it no another I swear to God you're going to get a strongly worded message from me on Twitter you're going to get a strongly worded message who's going to get a strongly worded message me or you hi she's funny we're just tell explain to this lovely young lady that we're just trying to figure things out what is that we can't see that all right let's let's leave her and go to someone who's actually playing a game no offense young lady but but it's really cool how that's fascinating and and what's interesting is that a lot of people like uh are using their Xboxes for like uh to watch Netflix and stuff like that and twitch is now on Xboxes PlayStations it's on uh uh Roku now so people are uh watching that as TV I'll go home at the end of the night not turn on NBC or ABC I'll just watch somebody play Counterstrike fall asleep cuz it's it's it's I like watching video games and one of the cool things is that like this you even have coaches now like in in these professional things and these are just guys that like to watch video games who's funny which soda Poppin makes this guy yeah this guy so he's kind of like a he's just not competitive at all he just jokes around but he makes so much money and what is he playing what game he's playing Warcraft I think right now see War the that's this is the game that Duncan had to throw away three different times he had a deleted he broke it he he like took the discs and snapped them in half and then went out and bought new ones I'm done man click so see there's three different ways these people make money right there's the sub service the subscription ad Revenue so he's got 18,000 viewers he probably makes like 100 bucks an hour on that and then he has donations or whatever so this guy in particular had a couple crazy fans from the Middle East like Prince dudes that gave him like 50 Grand each what 35 Grand I had one guy from Abu Dhabi giving me 10 grand one time on my do what just to did you have to show your dick no yeah exactly right we had a private my free cam / Jordan right now
no uh he literally was just like he liked the Counter-Strike scene he gave he gave a Polish Counter-Strike player 30 grand he gave one of my teammates 20 grand were you mad that you only got 10 yeah I was totally pissed I was like yo Mo what the [ __ ] what's the [ __ ] man dude when someone gives you that money though you don't really know what to say right Joe it's it's time for you to get back in a quake Joe no it's definitely not but I heard about the addictive yeah I have I have addiction issues I've avoided him with drugs for the most part although some would disagree but uh I do I do have him hardcore with games to the point where I I avoid games but watching this is this is a totally different animal these guys are making money I can't believe you have a subscription link there and you click on that you can give this cat five bucks a month shout out to soda Poppin I flew on a home Jesus Christ he's got 93 million [ __ ] views on his channel oh yeah and 18,000 people watching right now that's incredible yeah I was actually teaching a kid uh who who he he's only 10 years old I'm friends with uh you friends with 10year olds but uh he he questionable he well no they're the same age mentally he wants to grow up to be you like that's what he wants to do so like so I was teaching him how to be a twitch host and uh like me and Jamie would play Grand Theft Auto with him and he would practice you know talking and stuff like that and it's amazing that this is now a job that kid pull Fear Factor every he pulled us up on there was an image he pulled up on the screen What's that show that you did a scene in with David Spade I watched that on YouTube uh what was it called just shoot me yeah I did an episode of that I watched funny this is hilarious hey fella this is good for this guy though so he's making money and he does have to show his he's confused probably he's like what's going on well who is someone else pulling that up in front of him no it's him it's him dude let's just do this all day and go people's room and freak him out um so this guy right now is playing this game give us some volume so I can hear how this is going on not talking he's not talking let's do it okay he's saying let's do it so this game you can kind of like Lounge Fear
Factor that's where I know him testicles once dude it was disgusting and he loved it that's where I know him from [ __ ] Fear Factor I watched that when I was like 12 I'm 15 now [ __ ] cow testicles man [ __ ] and he liked it he asked he asked for more he had no idea okay so this guy is playing these games and he's just talking I guess and that's why people like him yeah I mean you just it's like it's like any personality right like the people like you've had Phil def Franco on your thing right on YouTube so like people follow someone and they they want to know him like right now I'm doing this podcast right people enjoy to just hear behind the story so for him sometimes he'll sit there he does every Saturday night he does a 24-hour stream all day he plays hours Satur does he jerk off he probably does prior and after I would say that's stamina does anybody ever jerk off on screen if they do they take you off a twitch dude yes and yes yes yes yes and yes it's happened where you got in trouble yeah I've got in trouble a couple times uh I was playing Grand Theft Auto when a girl came over and she just started taking off her top and stuff like that and I forgot that I was twitching because on Xbox Live you could be twitching and you totally forget it's on and then you fall asleep and you wake up the next day and your camera's still on right people been watching you sleep like creepers yeah few times also Reapers but I play different way I just go and Grand Theft Auto kill hookers and try to take pictures of their underwear sounds like a great F Wednesday night have you seen the [ __ ] complaints that people said that the there's a hack in Grand Theft utter where you could verbally rape some or you could V virtually rape someone haven't seen that where their body freezes they can't do anything you get behind them you start pumping them there all sorts of [ __ ] but people like really upset like you know this girl was talking about how she felt completely violated because her character was trapped and some guy was I'm like isn't that a game where they're allowed to kill you with a [ __ ] crowbar like that doesn't freak you out but you're like working for Mobsters in that game like what yeah but I'm not okay with the sax side but the cocaine
that I'm selling to buy this car is cool like all right so how many people are on this twitch thing in any given moment go back to that like let's see what like all those games are on there they have like more internet traffic than like most websites like in like they accounted for some hugee number I'm sure you could look it up of streaming services like it's like them YouTube and like Netflix God damn I'm so out of the loop with this [ __ ] now the I want to see what it's like when you're watching people play poker yeah so they normally have like six tables on it's really down okay there's poker right there yeah so you go to Poker and so these guys are just playing video poker so tournament they have like a little all right click on that guy right there I don't understand 3,000 viewer or 4,000 viewers almost it's uh quite a bit less so quite a bit less people are playing he has a million views but quite a bit less than the video games so way more people want to watch people well this is a Gamers website right so a lot of people get residual fuse because people are just looking around for a gamer right not a lot of people are just casually looking around for a poker player now do you think you could play pool on something like this right away they hit you pool like digital like no actual pool like could you have a camera setup where you could play actual pool I don't know their rules like if you're a channel who already does other things and then one day you decide to have a Friday night is pool night I think you could I think you I think you can totally do it uh you'd have to talk to them right probably talk to but they don't want you to like say I'm playing Counter-Strike and then you're playing pool seven days a week obviously right yeah yeah you wouldn't want flashbang dance someone called me an nword how dare you sir obviously audacity that's the one I concentrate on I know you have right to it so this guy's playing four different games at a time a lot of those video game poker dudes the real Aces they do that right and they have a program to keep track of the hands everyone's been playing like on their table and stuff you pay for it cuz these guys are playing they're making good money you know playing poker
four tables a day right and he's so this cat at a time is playing and he's playing four different games at the same time where he's making money on these games or losing money or gambling gambling yeah now is that legal again like how's that work now cuz I know poker like there for a while you could play it out of Vegas but you got to play people in Vegas online I think it's something to do with like Canada okay so this guy wrote poker's new to twitch but it's growing rapidly some poker celebrities Daniel negano who's been streaming Jason Somerville oh okay so it's a new thing yeah it's relativ New Edition they also added music recently like DJ Steve oi play videos no he puts a GoPro up on stage and then he does his set at a club and streams it yeah from twitch from twitch Kevin does it but that's not a video game they added music as well as poker so like if they I feel like this I feel like people would be stoked to have you on Twitch a podcast I could totally connect you with those people too from dude we'll do it yeah why not I mean we do Ustream I'm saying I know his new what did you say you got the new tricaster you could do like we hooked up can we do Ustream and twitch at the same time oh yes we can folks all right we'll do it yeah I'll totally connect to those people interesting interesting yeah uh uh Kevin perir has a stage at his new studio and he'll have like concerts and he'll be playing the drums and stuff on Twitch now no [ __ ] and how many people are watched a lot Kevin has a full Studio where he does gaming uh and on one he does podcast right but how many people watch when he's likeing drums I haven't watched it I just he just told me about it okay let's see some other uh video games let's see what else we got here know this is fascinating man this is a completely new world to me Jamie will you show him Call of Duty so this is kind of professional but not really professional ENT right but you you're playing and you're making money like I'm a part-time streamer cuz I still compete see I think the The Genius of this is the whole donation thing the genius of this is getting people to donate and the the fact that these guys can so how else can they make money they can make money by subscription service right
subscrition so that's the like that's like you can run on your salary if you have 2,000 Subs consistently and it fluctuates and it's always $4.99 well some people negotiate I think to six but you split that so like the average person gets 50% I get 70% the top people get like 90% like there's guys that have a shitload of subs and they play all day wow so they they get 90% so this guy named l or uh $4 out of the five I don't know that's 80% and uh um he get he has like around 10,000 Subs as of last month so that's automatically 40 Grand a month he's making Jesus just from his subs and then donations that's [ __ ] that's a half a million dollar a year oh yeah he makes over a half a million dollar a year I'm sure that's incredible that is and he's doing that all on on Twitch while getting his bachelor's in computer science that's amazing [ __ ] think he just graduated congratulations ler dude [ __ ] yeah so that guy doesn't even have to be the best of the best no that's and that's the thing is the entertainment value yeah intera [ __ ] numbers 81 million people have watched him he's not even on right now there's people in his chat room oh my God 81 million that is [ __ ] incredible yeah your chat becomes like a community home for people so they literally will hang out in and you could like you have all these little emoticons see how it's got like a little cat face that's his icon you could paste all sorts of dumb little things and becomes like a fun way for people to they'll be in someone else's chat and they'll spam my emoticon like nothing that's [ __ ] incredible now I'm now I'm really intrigued it's interesting because they really took the formula from porn you know porn always starts off first and they always invent it first and then they moved it into like having the donations in the chat room and all that stuff my camps but the hot girl thing is huge so that's why I've been trying to get all the girls on here to do it uh playing video games you're pimping them out bro I like it it's good move it's well it's it's a career now like these girls like especially porn stars when they get to an end of their porn star life they're like what am I going to do now I have no job just start playing Mario Brothers I'm sure you can [ __ ] make read a
book ho here's the dictionary so let's go to another one Jamie cuz this is interesting this lyric guy I like that I love what he's doing so how did that guy get so big why is he so big um some of it's a domino snowball killer player uh he plays all sorts of games and he's got a radio voice let me see before I'm sorry to interrupt go down I want to see what other games are available this is Grand Theft so he's got a radio voice oh I'm the lyric he actually doesn't even have a webcam it blows my mind how popular he is without even a camera it's so nobody knows what he looks like well they do cuz he's shown up at a couple like conventions and so they take pictures of we know him now yeah they know him now exactly shows up with a [ __ ] one of those guy Fox masks um let's see scroll down Call of Duty poker call what is H1Z1 that was made by Sony it's like a survival zombie like it's like a shitty version of Grand Theft autum you run around and it's like a mass World okay this is a game I never heard of how many people watching this Cat when he's playing he's a new partner only thousand yeah which is pretty good for like an average person they're going to be able to turn that into like a moderate small day job and not have to and he's got 277,000 instead of working at Starbucks you're a lowlevel twitch streamer yeah so okay this guy's probably making a couple Grand a month maybe a th bucks a month he's got a subscriber button so yeah maybe if he's working hard every so maybe it play pays for his rent there you go yeah wow and so this is a weird game where it's a third person thing and you're running around and you're fighting zombies and he's okay this is a stupid game yeah boring all right um what else a scroll down but I want I want to see what games are available not just Grand Theft Auto every single game is available every they have Quake on here yeah let me see that go to that you could pretty much play any single game people Diablo Jesus Christ but only if people are playing the game will it be here so like Quake I love I I could I should text my Quake friends right now it's a dead game huh yeah I love watching Quake I I've went to Quon a couple times in Texas oh it's incredible
halflife is still available huh no keep scrolling let's see you can also type quake in the top left and see if that pops up a lot of weird games I never even heard of I mean how does someone even create a new game now when these people get so addicted to the chess yep chess is video chess is that what it is I like how chess is like a wizard everyone else is like a young kid remember battle old wizard big beard battle chess battle chess where it was like box where they where they they were like fighter it was like a game that was for like early computers and it was chess but the guys would be Knights and they would be animated and they would like cut the other person in half I grab that hot water from you oh yeah way oh yeah technology all over the place playing Quake life that was it oh but can you watch the video Team Deathmatch the video up uh Team stre to watch death match so is that what this is yeah this is we're going to watch a a stream yeah okay yeah that's it see like this the graphics are quite a bit better in this than they are on the Counterstrike but even this is old this is Quake three dude I love this [ __ ] though my favorite tournaments to watch back in the way were like the painkiller Quake Unreal Tournament well what's interesting to me you know these games they it seems like you get hooked on one and that one game becomes your [ __ ] but then you run the risk of being left behind because then new games come out so I think the more legitimate thing Esports gets obviously there's more interest for the game developers to keep their game lasting right whereas in the past it was like buy the new game how we going to make money we need to come out with a new game so people buy it but now there's way more ways for them to make money so in Counter Strike you could change the way your AK-47 looks now you could put a blue dragon decal on it and you pay $5 for that decal or $30 or $2 or depending on how rare the decal is and that is used to crowdfund for them to make money and for us to have tournaments so valve now the creator of Counterstrike hosts a quar million dollar tournament like every couple months from the money they get from the micro economy they created for Counterstrike
God this is insane that's why League of Legends was so big right now they sell these Trinkets and garbs and things for your character and they make like $50 million a month or whatever the world of video games don't quote me on that but I I I I get your point the world of video games is so so interesting it's so alien to me but I had no idea it was this deep and involved it's grown a lot with websites like twitch really combining how many of them are there besides twitch that no twitch dominates that realm there's like hitbox MLG TV Major League Gaming TV uh zubu TV there's a couple but no one's really has the reach that twitch has um somebody just said that Kevin per is twitching right now while playing a video game okay go to Kevin per he's twitch.tv slthe attack yeah see if this works okay let's see not a hero and other stuff with Alex this is Kevin Yep this Kevin right now okay crank up the volume who's Kevin I'm sorry I don't know this Kevin Pereira was the host of attack of the show on the G4 Network he's a very bright man and he has beautiful complexion and excellent bone structure look at that jawline boom what's Happ said to your nonexistent team that's the one cop that they dispatched because they shot that dude in the face so much they're going to find out in a second he's got a partner oh he's only got a couple hundred viewers head shot [ __ ] don't let him use that on you oh sorry bud he only has a couple hundred viewers cuz he just got on right yeah he watching you now Kevin oh they're saying Joe's watching now hi Kevin hi Joseph and Brian Redban we should go back to his stream and uh and the C9 Pro Gamer guy C knows what's up gamer guy what a weird world we live in nothing but respect for the Cs go Community funny hello see so is that Kevin's um Studio that we're looking at in the corner yeah this is manave this is one part of his Studio this is where he does all his twitch gaming and stuff and his podcast the first thing you think of in all these rooms is like where do they rub one out like what part of the room like for you he's going to have he's flipping the script on us you
[ __ ] [ __ ] screen on all right how can we do this let's Enter the Matrix we can somehow so now we're going to there's a lag though unfortunately it's probably 7 to 10 seconds yeah probably minute at that open The Floodgate Of racist I know everybody it's always racist stuff it's always racist stuff for some reason how do you how do you Subs only sub oh subscribers SL subscribers there we go oh I'm not logged in you Lo in Joe R wants to see the studio are you logged in yeah I want to see your studio Joe the studio oh how cool this is getting way confusing is so bizarre this is like two mirrors facing each other o nice shacha shirt sir get that a tget oh Kevin Pereira with a dope Studio can we go full screen Go full screen on the cam look Hey Kevin we're finally getting to hear you now here's a you want that JR this is dope want that experience that's the podcast table Alex and then what we all to show the band room but I don't even know how we get out there the band room all right all right can you sprint this is the place he's rented they need like a USB extension cord walk me look at this this is hilarious boy this is so bizarre watching Kevin I want see dick hey get out of there so we're watching Kevin Pereira and it's the attack on on Twitch we'll get it going see you're hearing get too far in Los looks bro as [ __ ] today back that those bro out wow this is very strange St oh Jo just wait I'm going to give you the W this is interesting oh so he's now he's got this is freaking me out now we got the Head bar on bar now watching us watching them this is [ __ ] strange I think we can time travel somehow right now I think we just did look what we're doing here we're showing his dick again Jesus we're back to his dick dick Jo's got a full head of hair what's this is all so bizarre it's like the mailbox or whatever that movie was my voice just got deeper so this is Kevin's studio and he plays video games out of here as well yeah this is his twitch room and his podcast room on this side and then on the other side he has oh jeez there's got four oh see which one's real now I don't even know which one's wow the one in the lower right hand
corner is real time the one on the left is like what he's getting from us on Ustream so the left one is the Ustream one cuz it's a delay and the one on the lower right is Real Time wow this is crazy he's got a sweet setup man yeah again he's going to show his dick Jesus Christ three dicks it's the same thing though over and over again now there's like now why is there three different levels in the bottom I don't know so does he have a bunch of employees or something who he's got a full staff over there I mean they have receptionist they play video games and live the life but why is they why have a receptionist what's the receptionist there for uh just to play video games and stuff like that so so here's here's his one his second room so this is like where he plays pinball and foosball it's a bunch of couches this also has a humongous green screen on the side here's this kitchen area which is like a bar in the middle here's his bar here you can just turn it up you yeah so this is like well Joe has a pool table this drink of whatever poison you'd like wow a bar this is the best room well okay this is really fascinating oh Kevin it's a whole recording stud set uping s and what oh my God this place must be huge and wall guar Jo bar because we have issues uh and then loungy sort of hangout area we can also unlatch these big barn doors here and push them out they just push out and then we have a room for like 150 people so he has shows there yeah he has live shows concerts and stuff invites his friends and wow this is crazy Kevin pereira's taken to the next leveln wow so he has all these people that work for him like how is he generating Revenue dotop right now twitch baby really twitch podcasting all this stuff they got some other shows they do and some Productions they do for other companies and they have a whole production company okay okay Stang okay all right well tell Kevin I said thanks pretty dope wow this is amazing he's got like 10 [ __ ] people working for him oh yeah that this is so strange Kevin took it to the next level that's pretty
badass yeah he took what we did and went like five steps Beyond One Step Beyond that's the problem though is uh when you start showing where you live yeah that's the whole other side of things M we've had bad experiences with that what have you had like swatting oh I [ __ ] hate that swatting done there's a pretty funny video of actually on YouTube of them clearing my room with like rifles oh so you that actually happened with you that was you oh right so while you were playing a game someone called the SWAT team on you well it started what the [ __ ] it started something else it started people ordering me pizzas at first and like [ __ ] not paying for him right so they wouldn't pay for him I'd get a bunch of pizzas sorry guys here's a couple bucks you Wast time can I have that pizza but uh they would leave fire trucks then with next like oh they said your house is burning down obviously it's not oh God and then like a like a month later I'm just chilling and uh so yeah I'm in my room right here I see my dad out front walk down the street I was like I heard an alarm but it's not loud now so what's going on I said guys I'll be right back I was playing the game and uh this is like 20 minutes later oh my God so there's a pretty funny edited version I don't know if this is the one so they don't know right now that this isn't real no I even told him cuz they were about to come in with the K9 units I was like hey there's a couple cats in there can you just chill on the K9 unit like we're looking for dead bodies we can't adhere to like what you want I was like guys you're getting pranked right now look me up on YouTube while your guys are storming the house like you're getting pranked like I have no D so you had to tell them that they're getting pranked Jesus Christ they're coming in with [ __ ] guns and they had me and my dad in handcuffs on the end of the no way so you were handcuffs so someone called and said I had murdered my neighbor and had else hostage and they call through like a proxy DNS or whatever and or you know uh what do they call it a VPN so you can't trace where they call from so did you give out your address online or did someone Google someone uh they I guess my someone found my Skype username and then traced a log
for all the calls that where they calls most frequently from and they they just like triangulated my house IP address and then they did something called doxing where they get everything about my house and my personal info that's amazing yeah that's a real issue right with the the swatting I've seen that on TV a bunch of times well like real celebrities I supposedly it's like a big issue because it happens all the time little things like this I don't even like saying that word for me all I had to do is after I just talked to the police chief I was like guys this happened a couple times like please don't respond like this again like here's my number right but then what if somebody wants to murder you so what they do is they they they have to send one guy at to every time but someone could just do this all day long so they put a little asterisk they said near my house address and they have a message for their crew it's a little protocol now wow that would be scary as [ __ ] man okay let's get out of this that had to be scary as [ __ ] yeah well to be honest I actually knew what was happening right away so it wasn't scary so my dad was kind of tripping out but I walked out to see what was going on and right went out my front door as you saw I like a tank top and short but if you had a dog they could have shot your dog that's what that's I've and I've talked about that to friends I would have been so [ __ ] furious if any animal of mine was killed but luckily my R already no no dogs there my rot water wasn't there but that's not normal like a lot of times people have the dog inside the house if they come inside they'll just shoot your dog yeah and they'll kick down the door so like I said luckily they they were at the end of the block when I walked out and I looked and I see all these guys behind bushes and tree lines with M16s poin at me I was like oh [ __ ] douchebags God get pranked and I don't give a [ __ ] walk down the center of the street I'm like cool I'm doing it oh my God yeah but yeah that that's the worry is like what if no one was home I'm home I'm have my dog I'm chilling at my apartment and they come up and [ __ ] blow my window in kick down the door they see me like they maybe they see my expression like surprised or angry cuz I
just died in the game or I say hey bomb down bomb down and and then they're at the they're at the door behind me while I'm communicating that to my teammates they bust in the door and [ __ ] club me over the head or something how often does this happen a lot l so there is another video actually someone online who got more surprised where he realized he was being swatt he's like SE oh [ __ ] people are clearing my house I think I'm getting swatted and they kind of like do that se I've seen a few of them now there's no way they can stop that I mean how could they stop that right now with current technology well like I said only once it's happened at that address have they have a protocol then about don't Fu Christ one of the kids who supposedly did it to me got caught and they caught him cuz he did 18 different swatting he's from Vegas a 19-year-old kid from Vegas he sentenced to 5 years oh my God he's doing jail time oh yeah he's 19 oh my God it's the same type of kids who do those denal of service attacks it's a big problem in gaming you know the Dos they flood your internet they could if they drive here now I'm sure they try we've had it before it's like I try to picture the person that like what kind of like gang initiation of nerds and they're all like circle jerking in like some kind of like Tech Lab D call their Fury dude right now you're you're calling them like saying Candy Man Candyman I know it's like talking about for now change topic let's talk about for what's your favorite flavor Pizza it's fascinating to me that we're in this weird world where all this stuff is kind of going on at the same time like the inter the the interaction of this twitch stuff go back to that twitch uh website again I find this the most fascinating because this seems to me to be almost better than professional gaming like being good at it it seems like what you need to do is be like that lyric guy and just be kind of entertaining like what is that guy's skill level he's like really keep scrolling down let me see what other games they have the decision between being a streamer and a Pro Gamer is mostly Pride right like you compete and you want to win consider good at you what's creative and you travel around a lot what's that what's creative oh that's just creative oh drawing people
drawing phot and stuff come on they have video games of someone drawing no it's just people drawing yeah go there let's see this mind occupied how many people are watching this guy draw 30 30 people he's got 59 there's a game development one too people watching people this actually guy guy's a talented artist so you get to watch him draw and is he drawing in Photoshop is that what's going on or is he Tak close to it hm like the popularity of periscope is based on the same formula also everyone having their own TV shows subscribing to it feedback chat rooms all this stuff is the future now he's doing this with a wcom like one of those tablets phot yeah using you can just broadcast anything from your computer almost it's just a matter of if they're going to allow you to put it on their service this guy's chat is [ __ ] let's sto this CU chat it's 28 people yeah blow up chat well they haven't heard us yet there it goes bam it takes like 15 seconds Vier count update either you might have 500 in there but it won't refresh yet ask for permission before posting a link Purge yeah you can't put in there there's some weird things you oh my god racism racism again but that's he didn't say the nword because he uses the number one instead of an I so it's okay yeah you have to do the filter wow this is this nword thing is rude can someone please call me a [ __ ] or maybe even a [ __ ] the I'm just uh tired of the nword that's one thing that's weird about the Gaming Community with like Xbox Live or online chat or anything it's just racist and like there's no there's no like everyone's racist on Xbox Live so because it's forbidden right now let me ask you this what was your take on this whole gamergate thing did that affect you at all or you like what are you nerds fighting over and for folks who don't know what gamergate was you know it's I it kind of started out as some sort of a fight over online journalism and became some thing about feminism and social justice Warriors and all kinds of craziness yeah that was honestly I don't even know the whole story I heard I only heard about it partially because people were talking about the female side of things and I remember a lot of the companies I worked with immediately I saw a change in the direction of marketing they're like put females on
all of our adverts like because because they wanted to be like we support female Gamers who wo really yeah so patronizing yeah I don't need to say specific companies but I saw a lot of these Esports companies like instead of having a guy wearing the gaming headset it was a girl now like by the way like we do like Gamers like or girl gamers rather so so their response to it was to say that they're supportive of female gaming yeah and supporting girl streamers on Twitch and stuff the whole thing was just so bizarre because it all happened out a one gal was banging some dude who was a don't know the whole story I never really re nobody knows it's legendary it's like the story of Jesus there's like a bunch of different versions of it you know some them go all the way back to Thor it's the whole thing it's very strange it's it's very strange when you have these these little satellite communities and they Branch off and they they do battle with each other yeah I tried to watch one of those two-minute videos that explained everything and I couldn't even figure it out from that I tried I couldn't I just couldn't tolerate it it was just so nonsensical but uh it was like a lot of it just seemed like you know it seemed like there was a lot of [ __ ] on both sides you know so you didn't even pay attention like the hardcore Gamers like you're like so insulated deep in the hive that you didn't even hear the rumbling outside uh yeah my manager yeah exactly my manager from like the I play on a team called Cloud9 they were talking about it because it was like their sponsors discussed with them about what it was but I didn't hear about it until after this happened I was like what was this thing oh like what were you trying to say Jamie the drawing went offline what everyone in the chat made him go offline basically he's angry his mind's no longer occupied he's not a now he has 3 19 people watching though kill the stream there's a there's a cool video on YouTube I don't know Singularity is happening I I can send you this video somebody just sent me of somebody getting robbed while twitching so they're twitching and then in the background you see them getting robbed like someone stealing things from their house yeah here Jamie I oh that girl
right I just sent it to so they're playing and behind them people are stealing things yeah it's a girl pretty cute girl looks like and she doesn't even know people do stuff like that how many people are faking things like that just to get people to watch them yeah okay so we're kind of getting off track here um so this twitch thing seems like a viable source of Revenue obviously because it's but if you bank on that sort of the same thing as like your dad was saying like this is a volatile industry that you're entering into the one thing I will give people who go big on Twitch though is as you see like LC he doesn't necessarily have a marriage to one game so when a new game comes out his following is just like [ __ ] it go play that game and we'll be entertained so that's the benefit and that's why I have dabbled in streaming I'm not a full-time streamer but I could pay my bills with streaming and I go on there and I try to stream when I don't have like a big tournament you could pay your bills with streaming wow that is [ __ ] crazy so you could just for a goof you could say oh you know like some people have like a little side job like that your side job could be streaming and that could like pay for your rent yeah definitely and the cool thing is obviously it's your own hours it's being an Uber driver or something exactly but way more money than an Uber dri yeah well and the tips Uber drivers don't get donations yeah you don't get 10 grand from some dude in Dubai exactly wow that is amazing this is a world that I just was not aware of and so girls do it and they do it because like hot girls can do it and they don't even have to be good at games right but there's all there's a lot of girls who like cuz there's not a lot of girl programers like in Counter-Strike like I don't know the answer why this is always a discussion like why aren't there more girls at the top cuz they're out there looking for dick ex so that's one side the argument yeah and we're looking for girls You could argue that the guys aren't looking for girls right that are well they are but they given up I mean they are but they're like let's be realistic games are here and they're fun so you have the girls that on on stream that try to like not portray that sexiness because they want to be taken more seriously so they
purpose they have a hoodie on and they're G yeah there's a lot of that right and I don't it's one thing like I understand like there's this one girl her name's Casey Tron and she makes fun of the whole thing she's got big boobs as it is but she pushes him up has the camera like angled in on it and she constantly says like stupid [ __ ] and like makes like sexual inuendos all the time and like just different jokes on her stream because she wants to embrace the chaos that is the twitch chat and just kind of right and how did and what kind of like numbers do she get I mean she definitely it's definitely a full-time job for her she can make money wow so you could you could actually make what a lawyer makes or a doctor makes quar million dollars yeah that is so crazy I I don't know why this is so surprising to me the TV networks are [ __ ] in their pants because of things like this twitch because the ne you know more people are watching video games now than they are watching TV is that true yeah really yeah but there's a lot of channels man there's 250 channels just on Direct TV or something like that more than that probably right yeah but most of these games like they're getting way more viewers per day than an episode of graze Anatomy nowadays see I saw this thing about The Ultimate Fighter you know uh the the the UFC show the reality show where someone was saying that the I don't know if this true but the ultimate fighter only had 246,000 people watch uh one of the episodes which is just I mean that's way less than we get for a podcast that's normal that's normal nowadays that's normal for twitch what are you saying it's normal nowadays for the low numbers on TV on cable but it's not because that that's like way lower than what it's been before well what like as an example there's a show that's on one of these like oxygen networks or something like that at uh 10 p.m. on a on a Tuesday what would you think the numbers are for that 1000 p.m. on a Tuesday on an Oxygen Network show I don't know how will they even can figure that out man can you figure that out you can more so nowadays I think than you used to be able to because nowadays those numbers of the cable companies are sold to yeah that data is all that's all data is shared and sold right but that's the the
question is how do they know like can monitor all that obviously right I know it used to be neelon ratings used to be you have to have a neelon box on your television that's old school [ __ ] yeah and then I think they still use that though my I don't think they're they know when people watch a DVR show within 24 hours like that's added into it a DVR show so they they have to be want monitoring your DVR box to know if you have watched it you know DVR though but that is is that watching it live can they figure that out well added into that live number so they'll give you 24 hours and they but they don't add that into the ratings like if you watch television ratings that's not included in the ratings like if you see like um Big Bang Theory if that's the number one show they don't factor in Direct TV I don't believe they do I think it just depends on which what day you're looking at it they might wait two more days and they'll give you the updated facts with but just like I have members on Twitch I imagine all these channels have access to that well that was the debate the debate though in television was whether or not to include the Direct TV numbers because Direct TV numbers were different than the numbers they were getting off of television also as many people watching the television together is there five people watching one screen you got to talk right into that dude oh yeah it's closer is there is there five people watching one screen right that's like that's obviously the variables on on a computer you have to fa it info when you make a Twitch account which makes it that much more valuable all the info is like Age based they know how old you are oh okay here it goes Netflix ratings share Netflix won't share it they won't tell you they don't need to tell you they're like [ __ ] you we're Netflix [ __ ] well yeah internally they obviously have all the well they have 70 million people on Netflix now paying seven bucks a month [ __ ] of [ __ ] I think it's say 70 million well Jamie you can find out it's like who I don't know if they share that either no I think they do yeah how many people are on Netflix um so how many people are watching House of Cards do no they don't even tell you H H they don't know find out how many people are on Netflix uh I think it's 70
million but so yeah this Ultimate Fighter episode four of last week's Ultimate Fighter only did 2 86,000 views H H yeah that's like a big that's like a Counter-Strike tournament nowadays is that really a Counter-Strike tournament that's what you would get well the last major we had over a million concurrent [ __ ] Christ a million watching at the same time my God that's amaz and League of Legends and those ones are monsters too because they have weekly events this size that is unbelievable man we are living in strange strange times 40 million domestic subscribers 40 million domestic but worldwide doesn't I think worldwide they said it was 70 I'm looking at a Forbes article with it but even that 40 million domestic get seven bucks a month woohoo they got cash baby so the one side to Twitch ads or the one downside to Twitch ads is that ad block right on Chrome so like some ads don't get shown so that doesn't go towards the counts per Millennia the CPM or whatever that rate you get per viewers so on obviously on a TV show uh TV box you can't turn off the commercial you can switch the channel but online you could literally like disable the ad so that you're always watching the streamer because I could run an ad every eight minutes some people don't want to see the ad they just want to watch Jordan right so I when I run a commercial I try to make an effort to leave the room so people aren't encouraged to turn off ad block so there's nothing going on during my commercial so your commercials are scheduled no 8 minutes I have a dashboard I could run a 30 60 90 120 50 second commercial and how does that work you get a piece of the ad yep so per every thousand viewers I get a rate like $3 to5 per commercial run so if I have 4,000 viewers and I run a commercial at Prime hours that's 30 seconds I'll get like 20 bucks or something for like a couple thousand viewers so you could run for an hour that's 80 bucks an hour or whatever but they have to be they still have to tune in to it yeah they have to be tuned in that's that's like live action like sometimes if I'm having a really fun stream and everything there's a bunch of cool [ __ ] happening I don't
want to like interrupt with an advert a commercial right but if I'm just playing a game and I'm like all right guys I'm going to go take a piss uh get some food a snack really quick I'm going to run a two-minute commercial but I try to never interrupt the action and these two-minute commercials they trailers for movies like what yeah so it draws from a random Rotator that that that's how twitch makes also their money so these companies pay twitch maybe 10 grand to run their ad for this Friday so you don't get to choose you you couldn't say like hey I'd like have a Chevy ad right now but no but what I can do is have advertisers pay me directly and run their pre-rolls as my stream and never run a commercial through twitch or do an internal uh advertisement inside the show like what we do yeah exactly or could you have product placement like you know what goes good with gaming Coca-Cola yeah exactly well that's what I'm doing when I play on my stream I have my sponsor's headphones on have their keyboard their mous and they pay you monthly or well those are the people who support me to fight like Europe and all over the world each I just got back from London this weekend that's you know big event Samsung get away from me so yeah so so I'm uh so I have two phones right I have to dis activate my iPhone CU I got sponsored by HTC recently oh you had to deactivate your phone because I still have it because I have an unlimited data plan so I've been resisting but I have the new HTC M9 which I use for everything else aside I didn't even know the M9 was out just came out when week ago yeah I think I got it like right as before the M8 was pretty dope M8 was dope so how much better is the M9 honestly see it [ __ ] pull it out you know the the family plan on T-Mobile the family plan on T-Mobile is unlimited LTE data my music player T-Mobile's your music player no I said my HTC's in my car CU is a music player oh I see I understand so this is a a whole new world that I'm being introduced to this world of streaming I mean the world of competitive video games I'm scared I don't want to be sweaty on you yeah the the world of competitive video games I was kind of aware of and I knew about these enormous Starcraft tournaments where people are you know watching on television yeah
Korea is still huge right yeah that's why StarCraft one died it got so big that everyone was throwing matches for money throwing it oh here's 20 grand lose your next game no way really then there's cuz there's betting cuz you know Korea's it got big really fast I ate bad noodle people always find a way to [ __ ] things up don't they that's kind of what happened to the original Starcraft cuz that game was badass I don't think they needed to change it too much they could have just updated the graphics a little and what happened well well that kind of that kind of ruined part of the Integrity of the Korean scene which was like the dominant those guys are like insane like the way they practice the way they play was like just clearcut more efficient smarter better than everyone in the world so when their scene was infected that way kind of is that a cultural issue like you were talking about Europe and Korea is there like a stigma On It in America that doesn't exist in Europe and Korea well definitely when I go to Sweden it's like bring a pro Surfer in California really not everyone recognizes me but I will get recognized every day over there so like I'll be in McDonald's and some be oh [ __ ] hey what up nothing and you here for dream hack yeah cool but not everyone in the room will know who I am but that one guy will like my buddy's from Sweden the team nip they're the best team from Sweden when most of those guys walk around in Sweden they're recognized 20 30 times a day that's like normal at least like there [ __ ] there's celebrities there's celebrities in their city is it like a comparable to like a Daniel negano who's a big time poker player yeah something like that or Phil uh what's his name Phil Ivy is it comparable to that or more I would say more like the the surfing analogy is probably better cuz I guess those guys are in the region right in the world right wow that is unbelievable Kelly Slater or something yeah well he's pretty famous worldwide so that would be like fatality that one guy I'm sure you he doesn't dude he's done right yeah he just does all sorts of marketing best gamer in the world still yeah he he was really good at Quake but obviously all the new current players can beat him you know stuff RAF is like the best Quake player ever he is yeah Shane Henri well
whatever happened that one dude IM what was his name Immortal no the [ __ ] his name um there's V there was a guy who was a uh an Asian cat who had his own um he had like a whole server and a whole uh website rather God damn it one the best the best immediately like in the early days was a quake I feel feel like his name was Immortal but he stopped playing probably should know this and he stopped playing and started uh developing products and you know a Gaming website and I think for a lot of those guys the actual gaml is so involving like you have to practice 8 10 hours a day yeah I've experienced the the lethargy of it like cuz it's it's a novelty right you you do something you're so into it because it's new and exciting to compete well a lot of these Pro MLB and NFL players probably wouldn't be in it if they're barely making a wage they would probably say he that was fun but it's not worth it getting my head bash in well I'm Notting my head bash in but I am spending a lot of time inside I am neglecting my hours are odd right I practice like to the evening so a lot of my friendship Hangouts have to be like weird hours or weekends or when I have no tournament so there is downsides to everything right so like for me the novelty has gone away a little bit like I don't play many games anymore I'm not a video game player I'm a Counter-Strike player and so I don't in my free time I'm not just like let me flip on my PlayStation 4 it's like no let me go outside let me go do I play Ice Hockey still once a week I play golf sometimes I I try to stay active because I would go insane being inside all day I have one teammate right now who's very new to the pro scene he plays all day he streams all night he's going to make way more than all of us cuz he literally does he he won't leave his house for two weeks and he's still totally sane happy like totally POS possible he it's just a way it'll it'll go away probably eventually but he's in that state where his friends are online and it's not like you're by yourself you're dealing with you played Quake right with your friends right he's very interactive we're all very interactive he loves gaming I was at that stage one time where I didn't mind not going out for the whole weekend and I would just land with my friends after a while
depending on how you've balanced your life obviously you you want to do other things in your day right you want to feel fulfilled as a human I took up golf a couple years ago just to do something else and try to be decently skilled at it just for fun the kid's name was thresh thresh yep yeah he won like what did he win like a Ferrari or something I remember well he was like one of the Dennis Fong started he started xfire I think a big company now yeah he that's thres is that xire he was uh like the best player or one of the best players at the time I remember watching that car he was like the first Pro Gamer yeah watching him play in demos you're like Jesus Christ and then he came up with a website and he had like a gaming news portal he definitely paved the way Joe and of all the shows that we've ever done Joe Rogan podcast I don't think we've ever had 8,000 people viewing our show right now we have like almost 8,000 people viewing our show we haven't had that many before the Jamie 5,000 before wow The Gaming Community we didn't even hit it up that hard I wasn't sure if I could announce this last week I was like that is fascinating this whole thing is just gamer world yeah hey gamer [ __ ] we we've hit some new uh Plateau I think with interactivity with this not we but like the world that's I'm excited for you to connect you to Twitch I think that's going to do some cool [ __ ] for you yeah I think we need to put this thing on Twitch for sure now just it seems to me to be there's a whole world out there of people that are involved in this that I just had no idea about you know like I had no idea that people were making donation money and that someone could make 50 Grand we weren't always right you know how often is been I mean how new is this how recent is it probably 2010 when it really started the last five years used to be Justin TV Justin TV oh yeah we used toang dude we used to do Justin TV from The Green Room at cobs comedy club in San Francisco that was old Joe Rogan Experience before it was Joe Rogan experience we even met with them and they were like here we want to give you laptops and and cameras and stuff yeah exactly that was like when we used to do it in uh we did it in my hotel a few times we did it in green rooms I did all kinds of [ __ ] yeah remember it came with
the bathrobe on the leopard Bath Road for you and Joey and I danced for do you remember do you remember the time we there was that dude and this was way way back in the day but he had some sort of a cellular hookup in his backpack that was attached to a laptop that was Justin TV yeah yeah they walk around their dorm and [ __ ] and he had a webcam he had a webcam that was like on his chest or a hat or something along those lines and he had a this this like set and they wanted to give us one of these setups and have us take it around and I think that's where me and Brian like we just we just we're crossing the line here this just too [ __ ] weird that's next Joe Rogan has a GoPro on his head during the UFC fight night but that's what Periscope is I'm going to Periscope from this UFC this weekend oh sweet yeah I'm going to see if I can get a service or a cell phone signal cuz I think there's a Wi-Fi tether it you might want to also talk to Dana first about well I'm not going to show the fights I'm not going to show the fights I'm gonna like Periscope I wanted to Periscope like me and Goldberg like uh getting ready and and [ __ ] around and let everybody know what it is and this is what it looks like I'm going to introduce everybody to the people that work behind the scenes and show everybody Tom sigura and Tony hinchcliff beis this a new app you're dealing with I haven't messed with it oh yeah Periscope is a streaming app where you you stream from your cell phone yeah so we do it all the time at the comedy store the other day I took people on a tour of The Comedy Store I took them up to the belly room I took them down to the comics bar I took them all over the place very cool I should do that yeah well like there's go to the beach clown around or something you could yeah you could do whatever you want I mean you could could you show pornography with that no I just got got you got banned again yeah well I got banned for doing Brian yeah what what are you do in your free time uh I I troll my free cams but here here take check it out okay cool so there's people looking at it right now you have to hold it up and down like for some reason oh okay oh this way vertical and so there's people chatting to you what's up Edgar Hearts the the rules of periscope uhpp
no nudy no like overall sexual content I can't use it uh no no uh like showing fights because they got out of huge trouble for a lot of people streaming the the Manny fight maywe fight oh yeah that makes sense so they uh how I got banned though is because of the fights uh because of the fights here you because of the fights they had to incorporate some kind of uh uh feature so people were showing the fights that people could report on them so what happened to me is I was there was a bipolar schizophrenic cam girl named uh Egyptian princess doesn't that just go without saying yeah she was wearing clothes but she was just like it was so funny and all these people on Reddit were like trolling her or something so I was filming what was going on with this Reddit Troll And so many people thought I was doing the troll that they they reported me and I got banned but uh Periscope andin Periscope and Twitter looked at and goes well that's a stupid rule because you you probably have a lot of haters that would just do this every time you get on I'm like yep and then exactly so I think they've kind of relaxed it for me at least well at least they respect the fact that you would have some haters and you know they take your word for it you know it sucks cuz on Twitch they recently added that like even as a guy you can't be seen with your shirt off on the twitch and so like I did something yeah like I did something funny one time where I killed the whole team and I didn't react at all I got up put my headphones down I took my shirt off and I walked out of the room just like have a funny reaction if I did that now I would get like my channel would get shut down so that's like how New York City has that law that men can take their shirts off so women take their shirts off cuz they can't do anything about it yeah cuz like Ari shaffir will walk around New York City every day with no shirt on he does it all the don't e he's a beautiful man our society's pretty weird about that stuff well if you you know if you're allowed to show a male nipple I look I am fully supportive of anybody who wants to be naked if you want to be naked and walk down the street I thinko especially if it's symmetrical well I just think the idea of clothes is [ __ ] ridiculous some it's not natural you know what's
natural being naked clothes are just we we're imposing this we we're imposing this to society if you're comfortable being naked walking down the street what you going to hide it from the kids well you're very intimidating when you have no shirt on him it's too much like H sex and perfect muscles and stuff so it makes some of us nervous [ __ ] well you're disgusting so like maybe somebody had just eaten and they saw you so we're all going to burning Rand and we're doing a Joo good podcast Brian's Scott jensson has a a twitch thing oh no [ __ ] man oh yeah Scott has 725,000 [ __ ] views there another musician lately who's playing Call of Duty all right I'm GNA give this back to Brian there's a bar oh you should the little heart things you should uh do UFC twitch you ever play the UFC game yeah I well I have to do uh some you know what I'll do I should I should well I have to do some um voice over for the newer version of it cuz they have new updated versions of it every year so this year I have to go I have to go in in like a couple weeks I have to go in and it's [ __ ] laborious task I have to fake fights fake fights are going on is there ever going to be a a playable character of you because that's what one thing that the internet has been asking for for a while is having a playable Easter egg character of you I would have to do a lot of work to do that I'm not really interested like you have to like throw I have to throw a bunch of kicks and get videotaped my body I was going to say man you have a vicious kick I saw something on Instagram I was like I would have just got broken in half by that kick oh my God you're kicking bean bag yeah but bean bags don't hit back but it wasn't a bean bag it had a nice pop to it bean bag bean bag [ __ ] bean bag Hacky Sack or yeah all the above so this where is this going this is this is going towards virtual right like that's Oculus Rift is the next stage for all this [ __ ] I mean what I'm that's all I'm thinking when and that by the way that's what karmac believes karmac and I were chatting back and forth the other day on Twitter and one of the things that he was talking about that he's obsessed with I guess his Oculus Oculus Rift and the the possibilities that that entails have you [ __ ] with oculus at all I I
played like some weird like ocean surfing simulator thing but playing Counter-Strike I feel like I'd get nauseous I want to try it though see that's the biggest problem that that the biggest obstacle that they have to get over is a lot of people put it on and get sick immediately and so it's not going to work for them yeah that's the thing man like with motion sickness like some folks get motion sickness and some people don't like some people can't like my wife can't get on a boat she gets in a boat she like like I have no problem I can be on waves and doesn't affect me and my kids are the same way it doesn't bug them I was worried that it would get them but it doesn't get them but some people like like if you're in the backseat of a car they they they'll get sick they have to sit in the front seat if you're going around yeah like C what is that what the [ __ ] is that some people just can't take it I know people that can't even watch uh video games on TV first person shooters or they they get sick some equilibrium shift or something internally I don't know so that would be a factor with oculus because I don't think it tracks your eye movement so if you want to look to the right I think you have to do this versus like if you wanted to look to your right with your eyes you could look to your right right of course so it'll be very stiff for a while yeah that would be odd um they have those omnidirectional treadmills that they're using for Oculus oh yeah so you would actually get some workout rahiti well no you'd be playing Counter Strike and you'd be running I think that's when my like ranking in the world would really go downhill everybody's would dudes would start taking EPO and running on treadmills every day you would have to do something I mean if you think about like competitive advantages if it's if it's all of a sudden started becoming physical if it shifted Gamers started being like super fit that would be crazy like you know you remember that dance Dan Revolution game that game made so many people get in shape I mean it really did there was all these like success stories of people who they want they got into it just for being silly you know play a video game but all that hopping around got them in incredible shape like guys were losing
like 50 60 pounds well the health the health apps on the Xbox Live are amazing now the we in the Wii my connect tracks my body so if you're if you're doing one of the workout videos like uh what's that one that that the PF 56 PF px9 CHS PF CHS but yeah that that actually tracks your body so it knows it's like you need to bend your arms more your legs aren't bending like it cheating you're trying to cheat you're trying to do half reps right yeah yeah that's um damn it Brian well the the the Oculus thing I would think that eventually that would be like you could do like you could Spar you could have like a martial arts simulator where like there's a person in front of you and you're [ __ ] duking it out with some person totally practice your little fighting I don't know a lot about you wouldn't be able to grab them that would be an issue like you wouldn't be able like there would be no grappling stuff but you would be able to kick and punch and stuff start 3D printing opponents yeah the thing about grappling is you'd have to you're interacting with a person's body like striking is kind of independent because you could kind of pretend you're hitting someone and they react yeah and they don't you don't really have to have a like where Jiu-Jitsu you're actually manipulating bodies and it requires correct leverage and you're actually you have weight you're pushing weight around but they could give you like no you didn't have to you'd be fighting a robot that wouldn't work has to get way lighter first because it's like a two or three pound thing almost you're putting on your head what the Oculus yeah you can't just jiggle around move right but it's eventually going to be a neural interface I mean it's eventually going to be some sort of a chip that they stick in the back of your head I don't think I don't I think I don't think we're long for this world I think human beings are going to be some weird [ __ ] computer thing in the next 30 or 40 years I really do I I don't just don't see this armies are already [ __ ] guys sitting in air base in Nevada just controlling drones there a lot of I mean it's a small portion but it's a lot of the technology they're working on now is also um exoskeletons have you seen those I mean I know I can
I understand what you're saying but no they have these insane exoskeleton suits that are allowing people to carry hundreds and hundreds of pounds they you don't get tired you're your your your can do all sorts of things it would never be able to do before there a game called crisis that is just like that have you seen crisis you can like flip on your power suit it's like invisibility super strength you can like jump over a roof and [ __ ] was that Matt Damon movie oh yeah the new Call of Duty Matt Damon was it Matt Damon Matt Damon wait remember that movie what's it called alium yes elium remember he has that suit they screw it into his brain and he becomes like a super person because he's got this whacky he had to get to like cholo version you remember yes he had to he had to go we had to go to some weird place they're like all right Holmes you owe me 100,000 give me this yeah it was like a dystopian version of the future and everything was bad but the rich people all lived in the sky in some beautiful town where Sigourney Weaver it wasn't soury Weaver who the [ __ ] was it was the king the oh yeah yeah yeah from Fatal Attraction that broad SE Glen Glen Close Glen Close was the mayor or the queen or whatever the [ __ ] she was y did you see this oh [ __ ] oh paralyzed and he got a brain controlled arm whoa play that so he's controlling this with his brain thing and how is he doing that how is he controlling it a computer interface you see the uh interface on his head up there whoa It's drill that's awesome he's grabbing things with his arm giving disabled people the ability one of my dude there's a incredible story I'll talk after this single neuron so you can get a whole representation of a grasp and another neuron nearby will produce a different type of grasp and be sensitive to a different type of object oh my God he's picking up a drink I'm thinking this twitch.tv/ handy after this guy yeah he's a friend of mine I'm doing it all by myself and everything's going good right I'm about to I I'm I'm imagining to picking up the robotic arm I'm ex I'm extending the robotic arm towards the the beer I pick it up that's awesome I have the straw to my mouth ready close ready so extremely I can
practically taste the beer right and I drop it I Dro I somehow release in my DOT process I release the the grip on the beer and it falls and it falls in my lap and it spills all over me so that was one of the bloopers and that was funny but the next I completed the that guy's getting hammered with a robot arm come back here you arm no so when he gets drunk can he not control it with his mind anymore yeah maybe he's like drunk roboting never drunk robot well I mean that's beautiful because but that's again what we're saying and I don't think we're long for this world I mean I think eventually that right now is really crude that's like the Model T of these [ __ ] robot things but we're going to get to the Tesla of these robot things and that's not that far away and then people are going to go well [ __ ] this shitty body this [ __ ] flesh bag that I live in that's always farting and going bad you know I'm getting sick all the time let me just [ __ ] take my brain stuff it into this thing that'll keep it alive indefinitely well and Nano's stuff is going to start overwhelming but so this guy I know personally he plays with the Nubs he was born like this he's got no arms or legs and he plays using his nose and his two Nubs and he's [ __ ] good wow like he's better than yeah he's like better than the average player in the world what like so he's like a world class player yeah his name's Mikey I did a little report on him actually back in school wow I grew up playing with this kid he comes to the tournament like I go to tournaments around La when I was younger he comes there he's sitting there smoking a cigarette he's got like a little like thing smoking a cigarette he pulls out his he has a wire he pulls out of his pocket lights up a cigarette a wire he's yeah he like has like an assister it's like an iron like like a like a hanger and he like straightened it out and like curved the end so he could like pick [ __ ] up with it and like he's really creative if you watch him play he's amazing Joe Rogan uh is getting the chat room right now everyone say hi from Jordan to Mikey hey what's up dude he's a badass guy cuz the stuff like I did a report on him the stuff he does like that he's able to do Drive skateboard serve fish with Drive how
does he drive yeah like so that's what he's building a new car now but they're like extended pedals and like these foot foot shifters or yeah the guy in Texas is like much longer arms than this this is incredible so this guy um how does he write like when he's typing how does he type yeah with his Nubs and his nose he types with his nose yeah watch him switch weapons oh he's dead right now wow so he's fixing his he's talking hi Jordan you're saying hi Jordan yeah yeah that's the he's the homie wow he's a cool dude and his mindset is insane you know this guy is just like always just like yeah you just got to live life and and I'm just like dude you know any people complain about such menial [ __ ] compared right yeah no kidding man well perspective is a [ __ ] do you know if he's tickless no I don't know that hey what's going on there with these guys in the game where they have money over their head so that's so Counter Strike Works off economy so every you start with a pistol you have $800 the round the more rounds you win the more money you get and the better guns you can get oh how rude and if you lose that's like a big part of the competitive play is controlling your money because if you if you like force buy it's called where you just buy everything every round if you keep losing you're not going to have good inventory wow this is a whole another world you need to tell Mikey to heading to Deathmatch stream oh he's playing a game he can't leave it he's playing a competitive little um let's go and check out a different game check out Grand Theft aut Duty let's check out Grand Theft Auto and let's see if anybody gets virtually raped and when they do that virtual rape thing they you have to hack into the game right I mean I rap people all the time like you can you can uh go into like my when we're talking about when you're play in a game when in a game in a game you can go like one of my favorite things to do is go to a strip club and then block the front door and then throw in uh flash bomb or something gas and gas all the stripp over each other yeah and they can't get out you could pretty much uh like capture girls [ __ ] that guy just went flying through
the air right when we tuned in this is one of the most fun games to play and just [ __ ] around with like yeah this is the game that uh me and Jamie like twitch a lot together because we can just hang out spend 3 hours just [ __ ] stealing cars going through lot you can go to The Comedy Store in this game hang out and there's a new uh hack because the PC version just came out there's a new hack that lets you go inside the comedy store which now when you play this Brian do you play this from your computer or do you use Xbox uh I use mostly Xbox but the PC version just came out so I have an old computer that I'm trying to you I need Jamie just got a brand new computer so he's playing Kick-Ass uh version of grand the Auto but uh the the PC version is amazing you just have to have a good computer and I have like a to process the graphics is that what it is cuz these Graphics are amazing their Road looks incredible 4K broadcasting 4K FPS I just sent out another tweet uh yeah the PC version does 4K so you have to have even the some of the top of line computers won't even barely get all the options at high right now they made they made this game to last because uh a computer in two years we'll still have problems probably putting this on map so if you wanted to get like one of those Falcon Northwest Top ofthe Line alien wear type video card yeah and that could play it in full resolution or no especially falcon falcon or Alienware they're the best computers ever Joe they would be perfect at this trying to get them to send you one is that what you're doing computers straight what's four people talk at the same time Jamie what what' you say no I think yeah yeah those would be perfect for this game uh but you have to have the number one what graphics card do you have Jamie you have like the I have an okay one it's like an Nvidia and a 960 but I think everyone's saying like you need like a 980 do they still allow SLI where they can them all together he knows a lot more about that than I do right I used to do that back in the day when I used to make my own computers I heard and then you had to throw it away couldn't take it shot them all the gaming add shot a that's a double- Ed short right addiction you go far in things because you get real immersed in it right yeah it's just you
got understand your limitations you got to know if you're a crazy person and I know I'm a crazy person but it's good well it's it's all because I my brain developed doing competitive martial arts so you if you don't get obsessed with that then you get [ __ ] up yeah see I was going to ask you when you first got really into like wrestling and martial arts what else did you do at that point in your life like early on right when I was 14 from the time I was 14 till the time I was 21 there was no nothing else in life between 14 and 15 somewhere I forget when I first where on you know that's why like with gaming I love it and I always liked it but like you start to realize if you want to do something else you can't just kind of half do one half do the other well it's also when you're doing this you don't risk your physical health yeah well the martial arts thing like a lot of guys have a real problem like UFC fighters and even boxers they have a hard time figuring out what they're going to do when it's over because it's so immersive like every day and it's a physically demanding thing so every day when they get up in the morning they know they have to do their training they have to do their physical conditioning they have to do their you know all the different skill training whether it's wrestling or kickboxing whatever the [ __ ] they have to do that day when that day is over they do a lot of this for relaxing they'll play video games to relax and chill out or they watch television but it's super hard to transition from that to some other life because they have a short life where their vehicle can it's like say if someone gave you a computer okay and this computer can only handle the graphics that are available today but the new graphics are coming down the line but your computer can't handle it anymore and you can't upgrade and your hard drive only has a certain amount of years on it your heart your brain yeah you can't change your hard drive and you can't change your memory you can't change all these different aspects that's essentially what it's like to be an MMA fighter there's a very very window computer de body yeah yeah it is because like you know computers if your hard drive goes bad you get a new hard drive if and then also when the graphics get updated they also update the
graphics processors yeah there nothing so for a fighter they have this really small window of opportunity and then when it's over it's [ __ ] over man I mean they're very few competitive 60-year-old Fighters I mean it's just it is what it is and when it's gone there's none nothing left you know but with Gamers you got to think that there's got to be an age on that too where you can't react quick enough especially first-person shooter type games yeah but I think that number has been growing because I think of someone like teus salani in NHL playing in the standy cup at age 40 and you tell me I can't [ __ ] play Counterstrike at age 30 like better better example Bernard Hopkins is 50 and he's a world championship level boxer I don't know if he has a title right now so that's my point he if he can still do that and still and still be into it and and train and do everything he needs to do like I know I can play video games especially now that you can actually make money off he's a he's an outlier though he's a he's a very rare individual and he is extremely disciplined about his diet and his health and also his skill his skill level he he has a very defensive oriented like Floyd Mayweather Floyd Mayweather will be able to like he'll be like 50 60 years old and he's he's probably going to be fine I mean he probably won't be fighting anymore but he's not going to be damaged yeah whereas like rousan provodnikov or someone along those lines who has like a very face first aggressive style that guy is not going to be able to do that into his 50s he's not going to be able to be Bernard Hopkins unless he changes his style like radically see I obviously don't comprehend all the new wants to fighting but I just think of that like to someone playing a video game and I'm sitting here like how can you tell me if I don't balance my physical health that I can't play well you got to worry about your your reflexes I mean whether or not your reflexes will still maintain because I got to think with video games you're dealing with such a small window of opportunity for like getting a shot off and stuff like that that reaction time like do you take vitamins and do you you [ __ ] around with neut Tropics or anything along those lines so there's this company that neut Tropics recently
just came under my radar and and I've been trying it for the past couple months a little bit but not too consistently we'll get you some we'll get you some Alpha brand yeah it' be awesome to try I would love to do like a sample month or two or something because I I take like multivitamin vitamin D B12 in the day I try to do that fish oil each day but New Tropics I did it was like coyos or something I don't know the brand exactly how to spell it but I would yeah I've always I've always been interested in it ever since I heard on your podcast first but I never knew what they're all there well there's a bunch of different ones from different companies that I'm sure would probably benefit you do you [ __ ] with caffeine do drink tea here yeah I try not to overwhelm myself with like coffee like I only got into coffee a couple years ago H um do you do you try to do that on purpose like to preserve your sanity like what do you uh coffee is one of those things where like depending on how little sleep I got and if I'm going to compete right then knowing I just need energy for an hour I'll give myself a little coffee 30 minutes before so the Jitters wear down but I have that little hour of uptin but generally with competition I have two rules I like to get sleep and I don't like to be on a full St when I when I compete so yeah that's a thing for comedy too you should never have a full stomach when you do standup it'll [ __ ] with your head like if you have a full stomach you're slow takes all your blood out of your brain doesn't it I might even resources just just just general resources I don't want to go down that line here too much but I wanted to talk to you about that like when you first what what sparked your mind on getting into comedy because I was always like I wanted to try doing a stand up at like the local C comedy store in La Hoya in San Diego I was like I just want to do it like I don't care if I suck then just do it yeah is that is that what you do you just literally yeah yeah you go to an open mic night everybody sucks in the beginning there's no worries it's just just to come up with some stuff that you think is funny write down anytime you have a funny idea either put it in your phone or write it down in a piece of paper and then um you
know practice it sort of like get the idea of how you're going to do it do you have like your demeanor whatnot well just be yourself man that's the best you know like some people like they'll create a Persona or stuff like but good luck with all that that's a pain in the ass yeah the SEC the secret is just being yourself exfoliate exfoliate like who you are and just kind of be a clown I I know I could be really good at self depreciation but deprecation deprecation that appreciation appreciation self-deprecation is that one yeah I used to say that too it's cuz you're reading it instead of saying it yeah but self self-deprecation it sound right because you kind of appreciate yeah it seems like your internal value over the course of the show um but yeah man just go do an open mic night you're a smart guy you'd probably be able to pull it off just try yeah well I think if you could get really good at video games I really believe that if you get really good at anything that there most likely you can get good at anything that you direct your mind to I mean you probably wouldn't be a good linebacker CU you're not a giant dude nor would I you know so it's like there's certain physical limitations but if you get you know you're a really good video game player if you put that kind of effort into becoming a standup yeah you could do it there's nothing prohibitive about it at least trying that's the fun part right yeah well you you get better you know with effort with effort and thought and focus you get better you analyze it that's an interesting point do you watch demos of your game do you play play them exactly what we call them demos yeah and then you watch it and go o I should have done this differently or I have to work on that yeah it's definitely that's probably the most like tedious part of it like you got to make sure sure you're watching from both point of views your opponents and yours and you rewatch them and yeah and you're right that's how you get successful in anything and with Counter-Strike I think that was one of the difference with me as a young kid is everyone was just playing for fun but when I was like 14 15 right away I started studying the top players what are they doing and I didn't necessarily do what they did it just gave me a lot of confidence to know that there's not
there's patterns in some areas and in other areas it's open to there's variables you could do whatever you want in this type part of the game you could be good at this style or that style just like in fighting right there's a lot of different styles right so I noticed that early on I just by studying so yeah you just you kind of immerse yourself and figure out what your natural skill set is for me in Counter-Strike I had really good just like shooting abilities but like early on I was so aggressive so hungry to get into the fight early that obviously if I'm not communicating that with my teammates or I get over ambitious with the play then all a sudden I'm going to die even though I just killed two people and it seems like we should win the round but I killed two and then went and died for no reason whereas I can kill two Play Passive let someone else take their re like those are things I had to develop more over the game and you have to you have to study that because there's a lot of kids who think they could be a pro video game player because they just have the the good shot oh I have a really good sniper well what kind of person are you how do you communicate how do you like let your teammates play off you how do you play off them yeah there's a big difference when you're talking about team gaming right you know team gaming versus One One gaming yeah but even just obviously knowing what you're good and bad at right so you don't just have ignorance when you go play someone who's really good at something you're like well I'm just going to [ __ ] him up at this well no he's really technically good at that you're technically not as good as him at that you should probably shy away from that unless you have some way to surprise him hm yeah that's interesting now are there different schools of thought like there are there different like do people train people in there like do you have like coaches so I give lessons for 60 bucks an hour lessons 60 bucks an hour I'll teach you how to play for real yeah holy [ __ ] how does that work like what do you do you sit down there and watch them you do questionnaire beforehand so so that they give I ask them to assess themselves they answer like 10 questions that I ask their experience how long they've played competition wise what they think their
qualities are that are good bad um and then we meet up after they fill that out we choose it schedule and then we meet up online on the headset I picture and picture with their screen and then we go on a server together and I just talked to them about some things you need to know just about timings if they don't have a lot of questions some kids are shy or they just want me to lecture them so I go off and I say interrupt me when you have a question other kids have a lot of specific questions about why am I not able to hit these kind of shots I seem like I can do it in team death match or te Deathmatch practice but not when I do a competition I seem to get really rigid and timid why how can I stay loose when I'm when I really want to win and there's pressure on the line you know how do I so I just whether it's a psychological help or literal technical things I just try to help people so what this seems to me it's like from the outside people are looking at this like it's some frivolous silly thing that people who really need to grow up are involved in but from from an objective perspective without the cultural context of how people look at video games it seems to me like a very complex multitasked sort of uh skill-based competition it's it's problem solving at a very high level cuz you're you're factoring a bunch of different things you also have social interaction with all the different people in your your group team or Community your team and then on top of that you have to factor in the playing Styles various different aggressive or defensive playing styles of the people you're going up against like there's there a lot of complexity involved that I think the average person probably wouldn't understand unless maybe they talk to someone like you yeah exactly and I someone on when I said I was doing this podcast wanted me to try to compare it to like fighting and have you talk to me about the like The Meta of fighting and the small nuances like you know you could tell like if a guy stepped a little weird like what does that represent is his right side hurting or something like this in Counterstrike there's all these little things that I know that the outside has no idea just happened because I I can see the guy's
face because you've been there because I've been there and I've watched it happen and the reason that guy's playing so aggressive right now is a front like he has no Health he has no grenades left he's trying to like scare me away from the bomb site I know that's what he's doing so I'm just going to run in and kill him simply oh that's interesting so it's what they call information chunking you know like you you've seen it all so many times before and you know the scenario so you're like I see what's happening so the top people play off that information right like fighting I'm sure that's what they work off of right well yeah I mean there there's scenarios that you like like sometimes like people say like how did you predict something in a fight and I'm like well I kind of seen it so many times before like well there's are are also C subtleties like from actually competing like when a guy will turn his hips there's certain things when I know a guy's going to spin and I'm like he's going to spin and then they'll throw a spin and what it is is from fighting from actually fighting and you know his strength so you know he wants proclivity to do something yeah yeah yeah well pretty there's very few guys who don't spin anymore like uh spinning back fists at the very least but spinning back kicks are getting more and more prevalent like even Frankie Edgar who's like primarily known as a wrestler was throwing a lot of spinning back kicks um it's just a really effective technique but the point being that it's just I know that it's going to happen just because I've seen it so many [ __ ] times it's a very subtle movement that people will make that you have to like your brain goes into that information chunking mode and they go oh this slight shift of his hips equates to that so if you see a guy who's like behaving in a certain way like I've [ __ ] seen that before that guy just like you're saying with fighting it's it's a culmination of thoughts and things you've experienced boom it hits you that's what well that's with chess too like those guys that play chess they say that when they're playing that speed chess they've seen this game so many times I've seen those moves that blows me away when those guys have those clocks and they're slapping the clock and moving with peace yeah they're
trying to play like seven 10 steps ahead because they realize oh that's three options four options one option 10 options 11 options have you ever seen those old school videos of uh Eddie Fisher or Bobby Fisher but I watch what was that movie Searching for Bobby F well that was about Josh weit skin who's actually a Jiu-Jitsu player now all right he has something to do with Marcelo Garcia I believe he's a black bilder Marcelo uh but Josh weit skin it was the the the I think that was who they were designing that or patterning that movie out I don't know how much of it was based on real life but the Bobby fer the original videos it's really fascinating because he would play like 10 games at a time yeah and he would walk down this like conference table and just move the pieces like see if you can find Bobby fer playing multiple video games or multiple multiple chess games that was in the movie right I think there's one stage where they're in like a little Hall and he's walking around playing all of them and these guys are like thinking hard about their one game with him and and he's just kicking their ass 10 people's asses at the same time yeah yeah well there's just again it's information chunking like he he he looks down and to me it's since I don't play chess I go well okay I know that a rook can move like that and this one can move that way and a pawn can only do this but he's got the whole map set up in his head he's seen it and just to Circle his back around I think that is people do have a tough time when they look at counter strier when they look at Quake knowing what to look for what are the indicators like what are the goals here like you watch football or ice hockey you say okay well they're doing a breakout this guy's floating deep in the neutral zone he's probably going to look for a pass like okay like that's why the defender staying back with him it's much more linear you're on one square field when you start playing these video games in all these rooms everyone's like what the [ __ ] is going on but there it's still there yeah well if you like Floyd Mayweather fight like one of the things that's amazing about Floyd Mayweather is how he's able to kind of dictate his opponent's movements people give him [ __ ] too for this they're like he's a
[ __ ] I'm like dude this guy calling him a [ __ ] is so ridiculous it's that is probably one of the most delusional things you could ever do is CL call Floyd winning the fight well he's 48 and0 as a professional boxer and a multiple time world champion kind of hard to call him a [ __ ] you want people to take your opinion seriously yeah they just they get angry because they spend 100 bucks like I want to see blood everywhere yeah they they just don't understand boxing but it's not Mike Tyson his movement though what's fascinating about it is he's able to take these guys that are normally like high volume attackers and he slows their movement and there slows their volume output considerably by him dictating how they move he just is so much better that they they don't get comfortable and they don't know exactly what to do cuz every time they go do something they get popped and so they have to calculate they don't he doesn't give them the breaks and the openings that they're accustomed to getting and that's all just because what's also his information chunking is just better than theirs because he's put in more time than they have and thought about it more because he has a really good brother or really good father rather who was uh who fought sugaray Leonard uh his father who trained him fought sugaray Leonard way back in the day Floyd Mayweather senior and then his uncle is Roger Mayweather who's a a world champion as well and he's got other people in his family that were really good boxers as well so this kid was indoctrinated into boxing in just connected to it so his mind is like he's got all these and I'm sure he's a student of the game so he's probably watched a million fights and he knows what goes wrong when you do this and what people just try to bring him down for other things not related to it all all the other things are valid well I I well yeah seems like a piece of [ __ ] as a human being you know I'm just saying that's what they immediately go to which is like okay well we're watching a fight like he's fighting you talk about his like reading proclivity or whatever they're people bring that up that is kind of embarrassing but he's here to fight I
know it is kind of weird that he can't read but you know I mean that's that's a lot of money that's an unbalanced thing you know if you spend that much time boxing and slapping chicks you don't have much time for reading you know and Counting those bills I I wonder if you can count the money he has that's a lot of money he probably can count but can't write well he I think he can read as just a struggle he's just not very good at it but isn't it crazy we're talking about all this like intuitive gen genius he has and he can't transfer it over well it's probably amount of effort how much effort has he put into reading probably very little when did he how old was he when he went pro I don't know I believe he was 19 um he was in the Olympics and he lost a very controversial decision to a guy who's like in destitute poverty now it's really interesting they had an article about the last guy to beat Floyd Mayweather I forget what publication had it but this guy from some some country Eastern block country I think it was it might have been Russia or something like that Bulgaria I don't makeing [ __ ] up China hedge my bets um but this guy was um a really good boxer and apparently got a gift decision over Floyd Mayweather and then uh went on to get involved in a bunch of shady characters and you know career fell apart but that was the last time anybody beat Floyd Mayweather and that was again like when Floyd was 19 he's 38 now so epic yeah long ass time ago good for him yeah I mean look what there's lessons to be learned even in the shittiest human beings you you can look at what they're successful at and even in the shittiest human beings there's lessons also learning what's the price of success and whether or not you're willing to pay that price because oftentimes the price is foolishness like if you have to become a bad person to be really great at something what are the benefits of being great other than financial success yeah scoring getting those points you know accumulating wealth is that more important than the way you're treated by your peers your community your friends and family well you said what you you got a black belt I remember reading like 15 or something I think I was 16 I started training in karate when I was 14 got super serious about Taekwondo when I
was 15 before I was 17 I was a black belt so I mean it sounds like you obviously made a big sacrifice early on you've been doing that your whole life right to you've di been diving into things I didn't have anything else so the say most of your friends are probably in that realm right and now well not now not a lot of them are comedians but at the time yeah it was my whole world but I didn't have anything else like I was socially [ __ ] I didn't have like anything going on like I wasn't academically inclined I didn't like school I just moved into a new neighborhood when I was 14 I felt ostracized didn't feel like I was I didn't have any friends yeah well I was in Newton where I was uh it was a suburb of Boston so it was like you could say like I sacrificed but it wasn't like I had all these friends that I couldn't hang out with and I had like this family that was missing me no I was like you know my parents were I was a latch key kid so my parents were working all day and you know I would I just didn't I didn't have anything else so I found this one thing that I felt like could give me some value I could have some I I felt like I had some personal worth from this from getting good at something and then once I got good at it it was like wow this is the first thing that I've ever done that gives me like a Good Feeling by being good at whereas like my life before that was kind of depressing it was like going from one Community to another constantly moving no friends being bullied I hated all of that and then the being bullied part is what led me into martial arts and it's very minor bullying like nobody really hurt me it's more psychological just being nervous all the time being scared of people you know and I wasn't a big guy I was little so this so many different things about it that made martial arts appealing but then the big thing was once I started doing it it just became my whole life it became everything and then that's when I realized oh I'm kind of a crazy person you know and all I have to do is like find things and then those things become my whole life and the problem with me was that that from the time I was 15 till I was 21 that was sort of my developmental period of becoming an adult so that is how my brain formed and
this like really laser beam focused kind of insane way where I I don't give a [ __ ] about anything else and that's what what my problem was with video games cuz once I started playing video games somebody'd be talking to me if I didn't like what they were saying if I was bored I would just start playing video games in my head I'd be like I could be playing video games I could be playing Quake I could be [ __ ] hit double EDG sword yeah yeah it's like often times people that are really really good at something are super unbalanced I was going to say I could resonate with different things you're saying well that's why I see with you I I I appreciate the fact that you have put a lot of thought into like doing things going outside playing hockey getting a real life on top of this video game thing because obviously if you're really good at this game which obviously you are really good at it you must have a sort of obsessive mind there's no way there's no like I have a quote that I use all the time that I came up with a long time ago is that greatness and Insanity are Nextdoor neighbors and they borrow each other sugar cuz it really is true you you greatness and Madness are so closely related there's almost no way around it because you have to in order to achieve a super high level of something you you have to be able to do it better than the other people you have to have more you have more of an understanding of it and the only way to do that is you have to you have to not pay attention to other [ __ ] you know you can't be learning five different languages and you know also pursuing a degree in complex mathematics and also doing this and also learning how to play guitar and also having a girlfriend who demands all your time where are you going what are you doing what about me what about us where are we going where's this heading I'm not sure if you're committed I haven't really thought about that lately I've been I just kicked someone in the face and I'm a double black belt broads they want it all they want you all the time where are you what about what about our career oh yeah as a gamer that's the best excuse sorry I'm I got to play a video game for like legit chicks probably don't really get excited about dating a a super high level G I don't have too many groupies abroad or
here but abroad occasionally there's like girls who it's like they have more like of a nut like a respect rway you could tell they're trying to put their best foot forward when they meet you here just like yeah here are girls when they meet you and you're their friends like their boy their friend is like hey by the way this guy's really good at video games they want to kind of have their wall up right away like who's this kid like oh he's really good at something that's fun that's cute you have a lot of followers here and I'm just like sweet [ __ ] [ __ ] you wow how rude no but there's there's a oh there are there video game groupies though are there like some there are wow cuz there was like pool groupies I used to play pool all the time the guys who are like really good they would have girls that would like want to bang them yeah I'm not going to sit here and say we have like gamer orgies everywhere but there are girls who just they either linger or they come to events or they they try to like interact with you in weird ways online so that when they do show up at the event you like pay attention to them versus the you know it's like it's like weird interactions it's pretty funny yeah that's that weird like they're putting out little seeds little flirtation seeds to try to get attention when they see you in the physical form and then that's the best excuse of being a gamer cuz you're playing a video game you be like no no no honey I'm practicing really you're actually not doing [ __ ] you're just on the computer practicing practi so yeah team practice immerse yourself baby as you said don't get anywhere without it it is interesting that there's a difference in men and women when it comes to what's attractive to them because with a man it's not attractive that a girl's really good at games I mean it might be on top of that girls play Counter Strike to me I'm always just like I have to look away there's few that are pretty good but to to normally it just immediately turned off I'm like God damn it well that's the same with stand-up comedy one of the biggest turn offs ever is if you like a girl and she's a comic and then she's [ __ ] terrible you're like oh it's over got to get out of here nice to meet you yeah if you're dating a girl and she's a comic and she's bad at it
you you might as well be dating a dude you know I mean it's like it's such a turn off TR talk like a dude unless you're gay and then dating a dude is what you're looking for but you get my point if if you're dating a girl who sucks at something that you're really good at it for whatever reason just immediately kills any attractive quality VI Versa what if she just like whip my ass at golf or something I still feel like I just some some guys are find like pool is a big one for men they find it demoralizing like they get very intimidated by a woman that's better than them like some guys in even a professional level will play like a really good woman a high LEL professional woman and fall apart because they're nervous to play a Woman They Don't Want to Lose to a woman I could say from the past I've played the best Counter-Strike girl teams in the world for like events cuz they just happen they don't go to all the same ones but they have separate events when you play them it does feel like a lose lose like you're just like all right I'm going to either crush them or barely beat them or if I lose then it's even worse like even if I win I'm expected to crush them and see you play them and you're just like I've lost like a couple rounds like before I won any vers a girl I'm like [ __ ] and if you lose to them and then you have to talk to them are you intimidated are you like do you feel like insecure I mean at this point in my career I know all the best girls so they're kind of my friends in the game but yeah I'm sure at certain points for the guys coming up they want to be Pro male player and they play girls team and lose they're probably like f I'm going to walk out of the room quietly yeah I remember watching pool tournaments and like say like a Janette Lee or someone like that would enter the tournament and someone who would play like really good would fall apart in front of her cuz they just couldn't deal with the possibility of losing to this like really pretty girl like they just they wanted to impress her and they would miss nine balls and just like [ __ ] yeah the perception men bigger stronger faster well it's not even just that it's like men have to win you know they have this this I have to win thing and if you don't win your selfworth like you
devalue who you are I've heard you talk about that stuff in the past the caveman mindset right just back in the day you just dominate your cave you hunt you gather like you you well that's the reason why I mean there's competition over breeding you I mean that's really what I mean the the competition over breeding is you know hunter gatherer competition and then it's like fighting off neighboring tribes that are trying to come in and take them it's all like that it's the reason why men are such [ __ ] it's all it's benefited the genes it's I mean that's really what it is I mean obviously we're moving past that cuz you know as the technology and society and culture evolves and changes and grows and becomes more and more complex that stuff becomes less and less necessary but the the genetics and the the proclivity the the inclination rather is always still there the competition so when men lose to women like especially in games like pool it's [ __ ] drives them crazy cuz they can't just like overwhelm them with strength or anything ping pong some chick whacks that ball by you and ping pong [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] D damn yeah ping pong's intense ping pong's very intense I'm not interested in it whatsoever you know Aubrey Aubrey plays ping pong really good like let's play pingpong like let's go [ __ ] yourself stupid [ __ ] you ever been to those bars though that have all sorts of games in them like they have like shuffle board pool pball drives me nuts that's so stupid when you're drunk yeah but it's just it's just you don't have enough control over that stupid [ __ ] those shifters they don't have enough movement you know it's like oh yeah pissing me off the balls going through the middle [ __ ] I'm G to grab that [ __ ] and throw it out you can't even get to it sometimes it's like that you can't it's you know have like one of the things that I hate about when you play video games like an Xbox controller oh God was how like it doesn't it's not nearly as precise you get used to that WD on the keyboard and the mouse and you know it becomes a part of who you are I have so many stories where like I go to like a house or a party or something and everyone's like that's [ __ ] Pro Gamer kid and then everyone's like play me in FIFA right now or play me in this game on Xbox I'm
like I don't [ __ ] play those games like I don't care to be good at them and they're like oh so I can beat you I'm [ __ ] better in the Pro Gamer kid and I'm like all right all right cool dude you're you're really sick that is an issue though right what's that switching from a mouse and a keyboard to xbo I have so much I could probably in Counterstrike if you were to pick up all everyone all my friends I could play one on 10 against kids probably playing with an Xbox controller one on 10 one on five I've done I did a something for Microsoft a long time ago where they wanted to actually see if the Synergy was good to have like let Xbox kids play me online and I played these kids one on four and I didn't even need sound I was just like running around killing everyone because they're so limited with their range of motion yeah that it's not just me a lot of my friends could do this at a pro level I'm not just some God but it's just the difference between isn't that something that they also put into the uh the game engine to make it easier to aim with those things like Auto aiming yep that [ __ ] up the Precision right yeah and then everyone has these things that are extenders for the joystick so it's like longer so you have an easier time manipulating the joystick so you know the little thumb pads basically makes them twice as long and that gives you more control I guess they're called uh how much more control is it more like a mouse or is not quite just makes it a little bit better a little bit more control all like the Call of Duty and Halo Pros that first person shooter Pros use them on Console but none of them are yeah that's the thing that sticks up above it oh I see 10-year-old uses that so it just makes it slightly better but still not as good as mouse and keyboard why don't they have mouse and keyboard for these [ __ ] things they do they have [ __ ] nobody plays them no you can use Bluetooth right now you nowadays you can use Bluetooth keyboards right and uh there's a b there's a there's a bunch of input lag when you use them but they do make them yeah that's what I had heard there was a lag between but they're not allowed in tournaments so they're not you have to use those things yeah like I couldn't show up and just wax like a Call of Duty tournament but if I was
able to plug in my mouse and keyboard I could probably even but that doesn't make any sense to me that they would even have those [ __ ] stupid things why not just have Mouse and keyboards it's like that's the best input we always joke that like PC players are the master race because you know we always we always say that that's like a joke between the communities where like Let The Casual guys play on their Xbox and PlayStation and that's what it is it's just casual gamers like I'd rather lay back on on my couch and play g Grand Theft Auto then have my keyboard and mouse sit there and try to Twitch and kill people you know yeah that's what's cool about the keyboard or the uh the controller I used to have a thing called uh [ __ ] what was it called I don't remember what the [ __ ] name was but it had a uh a track ball and a handle yep but the joystick and you would move it around you would shoot with the trigger was kind of cool cuz you could actually shoot with a trigger and you would aim with a track ball and the track ball was pretty cool but not quite as good as a mouse and keyboard it was like a step below like the really good guys can still [ __ ] you up with it but then once I switched over to a mouse and keyboard then all a sudden I was moving with my left hand and shooting and aiming with my right as opposed to shooting with my right and moving and aiming with my left that'd be a mind [ __ ] for me I know people use that for like Photoshop I think track balls yeah yeah they have like they just move it around but a track ball is not nearly as precise as a mouse not probably not nowadays seems like a it's weird because like games are really The Proving Ground for like Precision because it's so critical well that's what's funny when these new these peripheral companies like Logitech or yeah Logitech is one of my sponsors when they make a new mouse they've they've recently the past couple years they have the technology to make amazing stuff but they always add like little like ridges or something on the mouse that as Pro Gamers like like to grip the mouse weird and the sensor they add these specs that like don't really apply to our range of motion they put like a million DPI you could track well I'm not going to swipe my arm across the room like I have a certain range of
motion and yeah I don't know the controllers essentially need um I kind of lost my train of thought there but well they had those razor mice well exactly back when I when I was playing they were still a ball Mouse it was still a ball back then I know they're laser now right yeah of course but they had a weird shape that they had created that some people liked and other people hated I could never kind of get used to it it was a we it was way weirder than that back in the day the original razor M these are those are Logitech that's a Microsoft right there see there's that little like keypad on the top left that's weird yeah but those this is not um none of these are the thing that I was talking about but this is new [ __ ] that they're doing this is one look what's that one that split keyboard down a little lower Jamie right there what the [ __ ] is that thing so since you know a lot of people do wsd so you got your left hand and then I guess that's the right-handed version this is just an idea this is just a concept but but I've played on something like that just for one my left hand only it's just the WD what's your what's your favorite Mouse what what what is the I mean log I use a Logitech g100s it's very it's it's ambidextrous so it's very simple it's look at this track ball you'll find a lot of the pro Gamers they don't need any more than like three to five buttons on their Mouse like the World of Warcraft people are casual gamers they have all these millions of buttons and lights and switches and that's kind of fun cuz you have all these macro binds for the Spells but for our game we just like a something you can grip it's not overwhelming in your hand or has a weird Center gravity or has all these lights we just need to grip it well and have good tracking it's pretty simple now if a new game came out like say you know there's Call of Duty and all these different games and new game out came out it became the [ __ ] and you started to see that Trend where everybody was slowly drifting off to that game what do you do do you decide okay I've got to [ __ ] pick this game up and if you do are you starting from scratch or you starting from like halfway uh I guess it depends how new the game is like current call of duy if it was on PC I'd be I'd be above average
I would probably be a decent competitive player you have to learn all the maps and then the metag game is gone obviously because there's no information chunks that exist at this point new sport it's a literally new sport now um I I don't know it depends you know like if the game has so much support how viable is it as a job what do I need to do to make money do I need to win every tournament do I need to just be a top 100 competitor would you dip your toes in like and would you start [ __ ] with it occasionally and then say I got to figure out what to do here like how do you know where the ties going yeah you don't always but you can kind of tell based off like player numbers right like Counterstrike grow Counter-Strike Go the game I play has kind of had like an exponential growth the past like year and a half still uh yeah recently it got a reinsures because they took the model of League of Legends where you can customize all the [ __ ] in the game Counter-Strike got a little Bland for people cuz it was the same thing always but now they've made it so you can customize the way your gun looks and all these little gimmicky things that are pretty cool but they don't really change the game and that brought in new players new money which makes the game developer pour more money into it keep updating the nuances maybe there's a glitch in the old game they would never fix it cuz that's it they're not going to release a new version when the next one comes out have fun well with Counter-Strike they constantly update it and upgrade it so that you could tell how popular the game is by just how the community Vibe is how many tournaments are happening whatnot like DOTA League of Legends they have tournaments all the time Counter-Strike we have tournaments all the time quake Quon now they don't really have any more tournaments it just kind of slowly died down maybe lack of Interest back then they didn't have the same model the game developers that is to make money they would just release a game they make money and Quake the players don't really have an opportunity to make money unless they do this twitch thing they' have to do this twitch thing yeah so a couple of them like I know the top Quake players and if they had twitch now and the game was still big they would all be in a similar boat as I am but unfortunately
the game kind of plateaued and the bubble popped before twitch got big and they just there's no tournaments they just don't have anywhere to compete yeah so that's what I'm saying how do you avoid being one of those guys it seems to me that it's kind of all you don't really know especially if you're like a Starcraft player those guys play Starcraft like there's not many other shooter games or Starcraft style games they can go play right yeah if Starcraft goes away you're [ __ ] MOA has the most options so MOA is the multiplayer online battle arena that's DOTA League of Legends and heroes of newor they're basically almost the same game one guy they're they're literally one guy created DOTA through Warcraft 3 brand a long time ago and it had like one map and that's it just like three lanes and whatnot and all these other games since there was like the guy in this guy independently made the map I think it was mad Frog ice frog or something I forget his name and basically legal Legends DOTA and heroes of new worth three different game developers they're almost the same concept game everything except slightly different Heroes and champions and spells but um basically they normally say like people who can't go pro in Dota Go Pro in League of Legends people who can't go pro in League of Legends Go Pro in her Han Hills or newworth so it's like this succession of almost the same game but just like more and more money and more and more tournaments if you put me in a time machine from back when I was playing quake and then like in the 990s and then jumped me here today I'd be like what in the actual [ __ ] is going on yeah I want to see this League of Legends [ __ ] show me some video games streaming no I just want to see what they're doing it looks like an iPad game yeah yeah but how's it so popular it's super casual friendly this is it here so free so it's very caters a lot there's a [ __ ] ton of girls and kids and Scott Jorgenson just sent me a text message thanks for the twitch shout out homie cuz he's got a giant twitch so this is the game um yeah so this League of Legends yeah this is I honestly don't even play the game so I couldn't tell you what the [ __ ] is going on I know vaguely what's going on it's what free it's free to play fre one of the first
games that made their money model not off selling the game but off all the things you could buy in the game microtransactions what do you think about microtransaction so that's kind of I guess that was I didn't use the right term but that's what I was talking about earlier that's what CSO has now microtransactions those are really problematic for people on phones that's that's why Quake was never as big though cuz like if they had this model of microtransactions you could change the way your Laser Gun Works or your rocket gun that seems like a [ __ ] that would have been like I mean even though it might be a dollar or two2 doll transaction if 300,000 kids are doing it a week you're gonna see some return they see it seems like they're [ __ ] you though like I don't like that so they're like they have a champion they choose right and they run around and then these little like minions I honestly don't really even understand the game too much so that that guy with the green health bar next to him he's the main one and that's his crew mobin behind him that sucks these tow so these are superheroes I guess is that what this is not not necessarily superheroes but Heroes meaning they're just like they're super strong those are you choose cuz they have different skill sets right one might be more have more defense so they call him like a tank he's really strong with his defense some are better at attacking maybe they attack better close range maybe they attack better long range so you try it's five vers five normally so the pro teams go they they're strategizing hey do we need I don't know I honestly don't know but they need like you know close range attackers a tank this guy that guy do you play a lot of Destiny no I I would play it if it was on PC but I just honestly first person shooters like I can't spend my free time playing them anymore unless I'm going to casually play it on this is ugly to look at though badass though yeah seems like a game that you would like you think this looks oh you talking about this looks bad Destiny the sh game the other game never connected to it you know stupid like Counter Strike and Quake you see it you feel it you e and flow their strategy is very intuitive yeah go to go to what counter- strike one let's just
just for gra just for um so let's see a good person scroll down so there's not really any pros playing right now you can go to the top though actually scroll down I saw a name Robin official one more down right in the middle right there that guy he's an old Swedish Pro okay he hasn't been playing in a while so this see this is so much more interesting to me so he's running out of Spawn right now this this is a gun round he's got an AK-47 so but this is like you're watching like the map it's three on the left here most likely I just couldn't imagine why other games don't do it just like this like this he just got his teammate traded the killer so it's good and then they got another kill so they're an advantage right now four vers three now it's a three vers three yeah that's nice what I'm talking ex know [ __ ] I'm just pointed at it right the kills so like but this is so much more fun to look at oh yeah like if you're playing it too it's like it's so much more immersive like you feel like this is going on when you're looking down and everyone has like a bar with a health bar above their head and you're throwing spells and you're looking down it's just so bizarre looking yeah and as I said earlier in League of Legends when someone's getting outskilled or they're winning around it's normally like pretty drawn out 5 10 15 20 minutes what's cool about Counterstrike and very intuitive for a spectator is that right there you just saw him run in and die right well also it seems with counter it happens quicker with Counterstrike the uh physics are very similar to real life physics like you can't do any weird [ __ ] like you can you can do weird [ __ ] and Quake where you can jump a little higher than you really would be you can't lay down in this game you can't prone you could duck stand and walk and run um you can prone in some games like Call of Duty you could like do some weird [ __ ] we like jump and then slide it's called supermanning I think you like jump in like extend and lay down it's weird wow do you get stadiums of people watching you guys play your final matches like League of Legends does like Korea have a the biggest one I was at recently was in Poland we filled upia there's like a 20,000 person arena in there 20,000 around the stage I wasn't in the final
for that but it was awesome to watch so you were watching and these guys were playing and 20,000 people were there yeah have a video on my Instagram where I'm like shooting it over my shoulder and everyone's like nip verus and they're like screaming the team names and it's epic because wow the arena now thousand people screaming that and they normally set it up like every player has a projector to their point of view so there's like 10 projectors and then one giant projector for the commentators wow is a color a playby playay where do you think this is going like what do you if you had to Envision if you had to prognosticate you look at where games are right now and you try to extrapolate look you know 5 10 years in the future what do you think it's going to be I'm not rers way but let's see here if you were if I was Ray if you're you I don't think it's I don't think it's success basically I think what we've realized in the community and a lot of these top people who run the companies realized is that like TV and the mainstream routes that everyone wants to go like reality TV let's show The Gamers behind the scenes that [ __ ] just isn't what is necessary for this world so what they're doing now and what I think it'll turn into is what you're currently seeing now just a little bit higher production quality and more uh more cater to the players when they have an Events maybe players lounges better warm-up areas like I think everything is going to be somewhat similar but tidied up just enough to make all the narratives of the seems more clear to the to the mainstream to make when you watch like to to make all the information much more presented clearly cuz obviously not anyone watching will say oh that's their ammo how much ammo that's not really what I was asking what I was I'm just saying I think I think that's I think it's going to keep growing and I and I think you're not going to see these astronomical changes where we're like every match is in a huge Madison Square Garden that's not really what I meant either I meant with with video games themselves like it seems like the games themselves are getting more and more complex and more and more immersive like where where could this Poss reality type stuff yeah do you think that that's a that that's a possibility like that the
Oculus Rift thing that karmac was talking about do you you you don't think so Brian no how come what do you think I think there's going to be something that's going to Trump that I think it's nice it's a fun little like gimmick type thing but like the thing we were talking about earlier about people getting sick and how heavy it is and stuff I think in 10 or 15 years that's just going to be like a beta test of what we're talking about and it's probably going to be just like a contact lens that you put in your eye and it turns your living room into I can't comprehend that technology and like you said exponential growth of technology is insane we might just have one chip we might not need a Oculus we might just have a little tablet thing we put by our Temple and all a sudden you're experiencing this with no fatigue and well have you seen those goggles that turn the whole world into a desktop the video game someone posted a crazy video I'm going to play It's called the void it's the HD version I'll show you it's Oculus for oh okay here we go go full screen started from the beginning the void cool graphics what if you could explore New Dimensions new worlds from your bedroom where dreams become reality they build a space in a warehouse kind of and imagination has no limits whoa yes you knock down Okay so this guy has virtual reality goggles on unparalleled visuals and body tracking oh so you're wearing some crazy vest oh my God this guy's walking through a warehouse and things are coming at them oh my God Virtual Worlds built over physical environments this is it Jamie you just answered my question this is the [ __ ] future so I definitely think like laser tag will get Advantage like these like little laser tag things will be definely environmental effects oh my God and this is for the super casual player obviously right yeah super casual player I'm saying like single player games right you're playing your own Journey story right here not casual meaning this is a place where You' rent out like a laser tag and virtual tag this I don't think I don't
ever this taking over where it's in your house and but this could be like an arena like where you play football I mean this could be the future where you're watching people play in a warehouse see I think that's when I'm Grandpa this is amazing I don't think this is going to be when you're a grandpa dude I think it's going to be a game where you accidentally get your girlfriend pregnant this exist whoa look at this like super soon this is nuts man so these guys all have fake swords and they're oh my God there's various games that you could play and they're fighting against dragons with swords this is [ __ ] this is all a concept though obviously well it seems like they were showing the actual physical environment like they're creating it yeah I think it's like like a demo of what CGI on top of well let's go to the void.com and find out go to the void.com and see what the [ __ ] how'd they get the void they must had to pay for that [ __ ] that was my point I don't think that'll enter Esports I guess why I went down the other path of talk like I don't know how that would enter orts something I that's what so you're primarily concerned with the sport professional sport aspect my mind attached to Pleasant Grove Utah huh next summer so essentially a year from now I can see how badass was that game uh with the dragons recently came out single player Dragon uh no Haunted cat look what they're saying here look at what they're saying here scroll Elder Scrolls visions of infinite Dimensions the void is exactly what our virtual entertainment centers will offer experience everything from haunted castles to Dinosaur safaris to futuristic battlefields and with our competitive or cooperative multiplayer modes you can share these incredible experiences with family and friends see that might be a weird issue man if these games start becoming physical if you start having these competitions like you're playing one on you know you're playing rather teams five on five or how many people are in Counterstrike five versus five yeah five versus five imagine if you're doing five versus five and these things and it becomes about Athletics it becomes about athletes competing in Virtual environments in
video games I mean that really could be possible sort of like Dance Dance Revolution get you guys in shape like I said that's where I need this the superp suit then after that so I don't need to get in shape I just plug in yeah what that's going to be weird if people resist the getting in shape part this I mean who knows what what this is going to be or whether this is going to catch on but I think like why would you go to the movies when you could live a movie when you could go I mean imagine if you had like The Hobbit like that kind of graphics and you're actually in the environment walk through the battlefield next to Gandalf [ __ ] dude and they they figure out a way to sculpt the ground in a way that makes it feel like you're going uphill and downhill and dirt under your feet and rocks and different terrain for all we know we did figure that out and we're experiencing it in the past of our current development yeah yeah the the whole virtual reality hologram right now right well that's that's the the mind [ __ ] of all mind [ __ ] is that one day it will be an artificial reality that's IND discernible from this reality and how do we know we're not already in it we're in it DMT oh L people think so it comes I mean it does come up every now and again Jordan I think we've said everything we could say about video gaming yeah man all day I yeah shout out to everyone who shout out to all you fre to learn a little bit about Esports today if you haven't gotten enough yet info for me feel free to look around yeah and you could find Jordan what is your uh your Twitter handle C9 n0 th Hing so C9 nothing with zero and C9 nothing is your handle on cloud N9 is my organization I compete for and nothing is n zero T all right well uh anything else no thanks for everyone for watching friends and family Brian Redban you got anything going on tell the people about uh we got GK right yeah uh my twitch channel is Redban so check that out GK yeah I told my counter shke buddies that I'd say I'd give them a shout out GK is a kids I used to play with from counter say that at the end I was like yeah if I can fit it in yeah you got in there what are you saying uh my T channel is Red Band uh me and Jamie play all the time uh also I'll be in Toronto in July and uh Des Squad uh Friday at the high
do.tv you guys are going to do a stream together let's do it you going to cross streams too cross streams touch tips let's touch tips after the real stream well listen man this has been very Illuminating this is a world that I I completely was unaware I was peripherally aware of but you you really gave us the full tour of it I appreciate it and worries congratulations on being able to make a career out of this I think it's [ __ ] awesome thank you kudos to you sir uh to everybody else go [ __ ] yourself we'll see you next week much love big kisses oh Friday night Vegas there's still some tickets available uh that's tomorrow tom sigura Tony Hinchcliffe and me at the C theater at the MGM holla see you then Peace by oh oh