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First Class People Like O that's me everybody else has to wait well I was one of those [ __ ] and I went up to the gate and uh gave the lady my phone you know because it's uh it's in your phone they scan your phone and she puts it down I goes she goes sir this is for Atlanta and uh I look up and the plane was going to Chicago and I was like oh dummy so uh that was me I was one of those guys in a in a big rush to get on the plane that I'm not even supposed to be on uh but I made it here I love Atlanta Atlanta a badass place it's a fun town uh I did a special here in 2012 just always enjoyed it here it's a good city it's an unusual City it's very uh I don't know it's just got its own thing but a lot of cities are like that a lot of cities have their own thing I'm sitting here uh in my hotel room I was going to do a podcast on the plane and uh I put it out on Twitter I said you know if you got any questions I'll I'll answer them and I was thinking about doing it on the plane cuz the plane had Wi-Fi but there was this lady lady behind me with her kid oh my God some people just don't [ __ ] pay attention to their kid they just they they just don't they just don't do anything her kid was going [ __ ] crazy first of all he was kicking the back of my seat constantly just kicking it not like putting his feet up and resting just Thump Thump Thump Thump he's a cute little guy he's a little tiny fellow he's probably only maybe two or three at the most and I I really like kids um maybe I would have been irritated if I didn't have kids I probably would have been but what was irritating was the lady was ignoring him um and uh she was laying there with her eyes closed she was a big fat lady and her kids going Mama Mama Mama Mama Mama I mean yelling and I I finally I sat up and I turned around and looked at her and she looked at me like there was something wrong with me I was like [ __ ] talk to your [ __ ] kid he's screaming at you and you're ignoring him some people just decide that because they have to deal with the burden of taking care of a kid and you know kids they have a short attention span they want your attention when they want it they don't want to wait they don't have any patience they're [ __ ] babies it's it's a you know it's a two threeyear old baby and
she just wasn't having it she thought she thought she should be able to just relax and that everybody else she I guess she just didn't take any consideration at all all the other people around her while her kid is [ __ ] screaming she's just laying there with her hands folded in her belly and she had like this fat belly her hands were laying on top of her fat belly and it wasn't pregnant I I don't think she had three kids there she might have been just really into dick she might have had another baby on the way but I think she was just fat I'm just going to guess she was fat and this [ __ ] kid was screaming in her face and she just kept her eyes closed it's like God damn it pay attention to your [ __ ] kid lady um but it was pretty evident right a away there was no way I was going to be able to get a podcast going and just talk into it without this kid screaming in the background which I mean might have been funny I don't know just more likely it would have been oh annoying so uh I didn't do it but I'm here uh in my hotel room right now it's uh 5:20 and I have a show tonight at 8:00 so I got a couple hours here to kill um so I figured I'll do it here and I was going to have uh my friend Ian McCall on if you've uh Ian's been on the podcast before he's been on fight companions before and he's one of the UFC's top flyweight contenders he was scheduled to fight tomorrow but his opponent Justin Scoggins did not make weight it's very unfortunate cuz uh Justin is a very very talented guy and I was looking forward to watching that fight it would have been a really interesting fight um one of the the big fights on the C that I was looking forward to but so Ian um wound up training for 6 weeks and weighing in all for nothing he decided to weigh in anyway just to prove a point um he fights at flyweight which is 125 lbs which is it's a brutal cut I think he probably walks around somewhere around 150 if I had to guess and he's got a cut all the way down to 125 and he just decided to do it anyway just to make a point cuz he's a professional so um hopefully we'll do a podcast later with Ian you know what while I'm doing this I'm doing this on my iPhone oops I'm doing this on my
iPhone and realize while I'm doing it that I do not have airplane mode on now I do so people can't call me cuz I think if somebody calls you the recording just stops so it's ongo now folks and it's sitting here my mic stand is a Diet Coke can and uh so I'm going to read some of this [ __ ] that uh people um the questions people asked on on the Twitter so I'm here I'm doing the Laughing Skull in Atlanta tonight for two shows it's a cool little room but when I say little room I mean it's [ __ ] tiny I think it's uh I think it seats 80 people and I was just here a couple months ago uh for the Tabernacle I was at the Tabernacle Theater which is a a big ass place and I just decided like I don't really have that much new material because really I was working on um just tightening down all the material that I had for my special and um once I recorded the special now I'm in sort of like uh um I guess you would call it subject acquisition mode where I sort of sit around and try to figure out what I'm going to what I'm going to expand upon like what what ideas I'm going to start planting and then try to make them grow on stage this is the this is a scary part of doing standup I wouldn't say obviously it's not scary but this is the the most uh Troublesome or nerve-wracking or or exciting it's the most exciting time of standup the most exciting is certainly like the actual filming of a special that's very exciting and the idea that it's done and okay I I did that material the best Justice I could do and now uh I'm going to release it um and then the most exciting part after that is this this period that I'm at right now where I don't have [ __ ] I don't have any new material I have a bunch of subjects I have a bunch of ideas that I wrote down on my phone I have a bunch of uh subjects that I talked about on stage a few times but they never really became bits and I will eventually piece those out and I'll put those up on a corkboard uh with index cards I take index cards and I write the subjects down and I slap them up on a corkboard so I can look at them in my office and uh I've got a few of those but man this is about as fresh and embryotic a uh State as my standup is ever in it's um there's a period that I've been over the last few years I've been doing it every two years every two
years seems to be like a good number for me like I guess I could probably do a new hour every year but I don't think it would be it at its best and some of those bits they get better as time goes on and I would I would love to have what I think is as close to the finished version as I can before I release it so um so 2 years seems to be the the time that I and so there's this period where you sort of slam down the samurai sword you hammer it down get it to the the best Edge that you can get it to and then throw it all away and start from scratch so that's where I'm at yo so uh these kind of podcasts probably help subject matter um is um it's just up in the air I mean I don't know what the [ __ ] I'm going to talk about so let me get get get to some of these questions I'm kind of rambling here uh let's see what we got here uh how can we help Governor Gary Johnson grow on social media Etc that's a good question Governor Gary Johnson I should tell you guys this uh former Governor I are you always a go it's like you know they say President Carter like Jimmy Carter is obviously not the president anymore but they still call him President Carter uh I don't know how that works but what I do know is that he will be on the podcast next Thursday with Doug stanh hope so Gary Johnson and Doug Stan hope together because uh Doug has an idea a a great idea that we're going to announce on the podcast I guess I could kind of announce it now or talk about it now what Doug's idea is is to do a live podcast during election night an election night coverage podcast and do a series of podcasts actually live from The Comedy Store so the idea is we get a bunch of different guys who have podcasts and and gals and you know whoever signs up for whoever we decide to have on it but uh I believe Bill Burr's in I believe Mark Marin's in uh Doug's in I'm in and what we're going to do is we're going to do these podcasts live and either we'll all be on stage at The Comedy Store at the same time or we will uh we'll mix it up and you know we'll have like shifts or something like that or I think it's probably going to be as as uh informal as possible so that's the deal I'm
uncomfortable here cuz I'm sitting down this weird way where I'm trying to lean into this microphone and I think when you get too close to these things it picks up a bunch of Pops so let me see if there's a better way to I don't want to change the volume of this here's another so that's the that's the answer to that how can you help Gary Johnson um I think a lot a word of mouth you know just talking about it tweeting tweeting about it uh people read your tweets even if it's only a couple people they'll tweet it out it spreads um you know tweet anything that you find that's interesting interviews of his maybe my interview that uh I did with him on the podcast um other stuff that you could find of him on YouTube he's the most reasonable guy in my opinion running for president and people don't take him seriously because he's a Libertarian and it's either democrat or republican or waste your vote that's like the mindset that we have here in this country I think that this election is probably going to change a lot of that um I think that what we what we're looking at right now is probably one of the worst cases of I don't want to say the lesser of two evil I just I don't like it I don't think you like it I don't think anybody likes it I don't think that what we're uh what we're being offered right now is the best the best options available I think it's the only options because I think the job sucks I think nobody wants that job but Gary Johnson apparently wants it but it's just a it's a [ __ ] up job I I don't want to sit here and dwell on politics and talk politics with everybody but it just to me is one of the most depressing times ever for uh picking a president um Stephen Crowder from louder with Crowder he's been on my podcast before he just put a video on YouTube about all the reasons why you shouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton and he details all the different times she's been caught lying and not just lying about little [ __ ] lying about big crazy [ __ ] like the origin of her name she said that it was named she was named after uh someone who was like the first guy to climb Mount Everest the but something like that some someone to climb out not not not that I don't
remember what it was anyway uh it turns the guy who she was claiming she was named after did what she was claiming he did when she was sick so there's no [ __ ] way that's true she lied about that she lied about a bunch of things she's she lied about Benghazi being motivated by um a video I don't know if you guys remember that but there was a video that someone put on YouTube that it was some video about Islam and it was really bad it was like a terrible terrible movie some like ridiculously bad like amateur [ __ ] movie and the Word was the word on the street for a while was that that movie was the motivation behind the attacks on Benghazi and it's total horseshit and it was what the narrative was though for a while and uh I mean maybe Hillary didn't know any better but either way it's uh it's an interesting video to watch if you uh you want to watch this video and decide why you don't want to vote for Hillary but there's plenty of videos out there that'll let you know why you shouldn't vote for Donald Trump either I mean the [ __ ] am I rambling about here I'm I'm being political let me have a cup of coffee here uh so that's that's the answer Gary Johnson if you just you know tell people you enjoy he's a [ __ ] reasonable guy like I hung out with a guy I shot p with him he's very reasonable could he survive the barrage of the the Trump the trumpets what do they call the Trump kins the guys are really into Trump I don't know that's a that's a [ __ ] weapon he's got it's like back when Opie and Anthony had the pests they would turn the pests on them but then eventually the pest turned on them it's interesting um so that's the Gary Johnson answer who's fatter Tom sigura or Bert ker that's a very good question it's a very good question I don't know if you realize this but two of my very good friends Tom sigur and Bert ker they're both hilarious guys and they have decided to um do this thing where they're calling each other fat they're both I love them both to death but they're they could both lose a couple of pounds they could both lose a little um and they've just decided uh to have this public thing where it's like # biris fat #t is fat I'm going to move my phone to this new thing ooh that's better um and so they sell t-shirts like half hashtag
Thomas fat and # biris fat t-shirts and all the proceeds for the sales of those go directly to them so you're not helping any [ __ ] Charities no starving kids are getting fed they're just going to buy food and get fatter and in Bert's case he's probably going to buy boxes of wine Bert drinks boxes of wine in an evening and someone was trying to explain to me how many bottles of wine that is and we don't really know I could Google that I'm going to Google that right now let's find out if you had a guess how many boxes of wine would you say let's take a qu let's take a guess how many or how many bottles are how many bottles of wine are in a box all right here many bottles of of wine are in a box here it goes um I'm going before I click on it I'm going to say I think I think it was nine I'm going to say nine that seems like a lot four bottles okay oh no no okay six six and 2/3 bottle all right here it goes 750ml bottles how many 750ml bottles are there in a 5 L box of wine it's six and 2/3 and if it's a 3 l box of wine it's four bottles hm I bet he's drinking the six and 2/3 in a night I think he's done more than one I forget what he said but he's definitely drank at least one box in a night on a regular basis so that's four bottles of wine I would be dead I don't know how he does it well he's he's definitely fat I mean that helps it uh and then it's also there's a um there's a tolerance issue when you drink that much all the time you B your body just gets used to it there's um you know your body's like okay this [ __ ] is going to be pouring poison down the hole every day uh time to get used to it so that's why MythBusters MythBusters How many bottles of wine in a box I've been told a box of wine is equivalent to five bottles now I got to see if it's truth or a myth what kind of that's not a a myth that's a measurement this is just somebody's wacky website um so that's what the Bert and Tom like who's fat thing is all about so if you if you see # ber is fat that's what that's all about uh or # toomas fat which is sort of a retaliation and they would call him B Bert Chrysler
I don't know um Tom's podcast with his wife Christina pitsky they have this podcast called your mom's house it's [ __ ] hilarious it's really funny and it's really it's really unique like it's really their own kind of thing I I only did it once but it's really fun they have their own Vibe they're the they are the pound-for-pound funniest couple Tom and Christina it's close it's like Bonnie McFarland and Rich Voss are right up there but um man Tom I I think Tom and Christina might have them by a hair by a hair all right next question boy some of these questions are [ __ ] terrible will the Doom podcast ever happen that's a good question soprano pictures yeah I probably will um I've just I've just been crazy busy I'm editing the um comedy special right now and when that's over I'll have some rest and relaxation time and yeah we'll probably what we're going to do is it probably won't be like a regular podcast cuz it probably won't be that interesting to listen to or watch we'll have it just like as like a supplemental thing or we'll do it on Twitch twitch is this thing that uh these young kids are doing these days twitch is this um and I'm sorry if this is popping I might be too close to this if I'm popping my peas twitch is this thing that um young kids are doing where it's you're watching video games being played by other people and it's really popular hugely popular in fact they make money from it they they play video games and they make money playing video games like who saw that coming nobody right nobody ever thought that it would be interesting to watch people play video games but when I used to play Quake people used to get into these things called demos like you would watch guys like there's this this kid named thresh he was like the big gamer back in the day um the big Quake player he like one of the best in the world if not the best and uh I would watch his demos just because he could [ __ ] B guys up playing that game in a way that I could never do and I think if you can watch someone do something like when I was competing in Taekwondo tournaments one of the things that really helped me a lot was I would go like when I was coming up I would go and watch like big time tournaments like I went to Colorado Springs to watch the World Cup and this was in
like I would say like 1986 I think it was and I went to Colorado Springs to watch the World Cup because I knew that the best fighters in the world were going to be there the best Taekwondo guys guys like herb Perez and um God I'm trying to remember some of these names um there was this guy Nasim I don't remember his last name but he was this bad [ __ ] from The Ivy coast boy I I'll remember it as soon as this podcast is over I'll remember his name it's driving me crazy um Patrice Patrice Remar that's his name Patrice Remar was his name it's not Nasim Nasim was another guy who's also a bad [ __ ] there was a bunch of them but anyway these guys were like at a a very high level um much much better than me and I remember going and watching them compete made me better I remember seeing that level of competition and then all sudden in my mind uh I had higher expectations of myself and a higher um higher a higher ceiling I guess of potential like I I looked at all these guys and how how good they were and I realized what was possible so it it sort of ramped up in my mind what I needed to do to be at my best and immediately afterwards I went on to win one of the biggest tournaments ever won which is um well one of the biggest in Massachusetts the Bay State games which was right after I got back just from watching I I got better guaranteed point is we would watch these things um these uh Demos in Quake so what you could do is there was uh you would hit the Tia key the Tia key is that key that's right below the escape button on your laptop or your uh your keyboard rather and it would pull this drop- down menu like a like a control panel not even a drop- down menu it's just like it was like code like Doss and you would have to type in certain things I forget what the how you would do it but you had to learn like what little symbols to use and stuff it was almost like kind of coding but you could you could type in demo and you could run a demo and then later on I think they put it in the menu the actual menu of the game but in the old days like especially the Quake one days you used to have to uh you used to have to know what to write in in the code and then you could record demo
and you would record a demo and this way you'd be watching the game play out from the person's eyes like you would watch their screen like what they're seeing when they're playing the game and it made you better it definitely did and I think uh it's exciting to watch too it's exciting to see if someone could pull something off like I'd watch this uh thresh guy or um there's another guy named Immortal he was a bad [ __ ] and uh he was uh a another guy who's like one of the best in the world you'd watch him play and you just go Jesus cuz he would he would hit guys like they'd be in midair like jumping and he would shoot them in the face with a rocket just he was so good he would rail guys they a rail gun is this this uh super high-powered thing that shoots this I guess like I don't know what a rail is a ball or something like that but it has this cool like Tracer behind it like this laser Tracer like and it's almost like instantaneous um the the speed in it it's faster than a rocket and you'd be able to you you'd have to time it just absolutely perfectly and these guys would be able to do things with those rail guns that were just so impressive to someone who suck like me you watch it you watch it through their eyes like [ __ ] and it just made you realize how bad you sucked and how good they are and how much you had to how much more you had to work at it that was like one of the weird things about those games is um How Deep The Rabbit Hole goes like the guys who are like really good they were so much better than than someone like me who was kind of okay like I was okay as long as I was playing somebody who sucked or somebody who was like at my level who just really didn't know what they're doing and I was [ __ ] playing a lot I was playing like eight hours a day at one point in time sometimes even more completely obsessed I would it it would [ __ ] up all sorts of aspects of my life I wouldn't get anything done I would be constantly like just engrossed in improving my performance in this [ __ ] crazy game and playing it online too was so exciting because you'd be playing against a bunch of people and these people would be you know in real time essentially there was a little bit of lag in between when you would shoot and
when it would show up on the screen depending upon how fast your connection was but if you had a pretty decent connection like cable modem or something like that and you know the person was near you like fairly close in the same city or something like that or at least in the same state you get like really commensurate pings and You' have these awesome matches where you'd be basically playing in real time against each other it's just so exciting and these levels that you would play on if you've never played a 3D shooter like unreal or Quake or Doom or um there's there you know a bunch of them now but these games that you would play the graphics would be so intense there'd be all these wild maps that you would play on it was just really exciting and so much more exciting than any other game or any other thing that I'd ever done before um you know outside of fighting uh in a competitive way it was just completely engrossing so I I really had a problem with it for a long time if you listen to this podcast uh for you know any length of episodes I'm sure it's come up more than once I know I talk about the same things uh over and over again some times and that's unfortunate but I always feel like somebody somebody listening doesn't know that story and if I don't tell that story it's not going to make sense the people that are the hardcore people that have heard this podcast you know listen to 100 plus episodes you probably have heard that story but you know the the real issue is how many people that are new that are Tuning In For the First Time haven't I don't want to leave it out just because well I'm worried that someone's already heard it so I always try to put that cab in it for those of you who have heard this before I'm sorry so my um my video game career as far as I would wouldn't call it a career Obsession my my my period of obsession lasted a few years and uh I eventually had a quit cold turkey I had to walk away cuz it was just really interfering with my life and uh here's another story that I've told before but I'll tell it again just cuz people haven't heard it there was a guy who was a manager at The Comedy Store it was a really nice guy his name was Rob and Rob was uh in the back of the comedy store once and he said he was addicted to EverQuest and
EverQuest was uh like World of Warcraft was one of the first one of those uh role playing games those multi-person weird world games where you you know I'm a sorcerer and you have a cloak and go get a bag of gold and wacky [ __ ] games but but he was super addicted to it and one of the things that he said was he said I'm so good at making money in the game world but so bad at making money in the real world and the way he said it was like this Revelation like what the [ __ ] is wrong with me he was really devastated and he was sitting there he's pale looked like he hadn't seen his son in weeks he looked like he hadn't been sleeping right his eyes were all [ __ ] up from staring at a computer screen every day and that was the moment I think where I realized like oh yeah like these [ __ ] things will sap you of your life like it might be fun while it's happening but it's when it's over it's not fun like the memories they're they're weird memories like if you play a game like say if you uh play a baseball game and you knock a home run out of the park and everybody cheers and you run the bases and you high five your teammates you have a good time that's a real memory but if you play a guy in a video game and you play for eight hours and you beat him in some some crazy match when it's over you don't feel like anything really happened I wonder if that's the case if someone's playing in a major tournament maybe it was just me because I have the uh I had the the thought in my head that I was wasting my time like like that I'm I'm I should be doing other things I have things that I need to be doing and I'm [ __ ] off and playing this video game and so I had like a negative attachment to the idea of playing a game and maybe if I was like one of those dudes in like one of those Starcraft games if you I don't if you're familiar at all with video games but if you uh if you are familiar you know that they have these crazy Starcraft tournaments in Korea and um I guess they have them in America too and maybe Europe as well maybe I'm just talking out of my ass but in Korea I know they're huge and they fill up Arenas I'm talking like like a [ __ ] Coliseum like 25,000 people and they have these giant screens and people
watch these guys play video games in real time and they cheer and they know like the moves so when someone's doing something good they get crazy and when someone's make a mistake they're like oh no uh it's weird it's weird to watch and I believe there's real money in it like I know there's um guys that do play in video games in tournaments and in professional video game leagues that can actually make real money and then they make that money on that twitch thing as well twitch uh I don't know twitch.com I guess they somehow or another I don't it's been explained to me but I forgot there's uh I guess people I don't know if you get paid for how many people are watching you or people donate or uh I don't know they make money they make money off of twitch so there's that so maybe those people that are playing the these big-time Starcraft tournaments maybe to them it feels the same way as it would feel if you were a major league chess player and you won a tournament it's weird because some games are highly respected and some games nobody gives a [ __ ] about like games they carry their own sort of I don't know not really Prejudice but games have their own little thing that are attached to them right like chess chess is a thinking person's game you if you tell someone you play chess they're like ooh you must be smart right you tell somebody you play poker they go oh you degenerate Gambler [ __ ] like there's there's games that people don't appreciate like you tell someone yeah I'm I play professional pool they go oh that's a thing you know it's not like something like someone's saying they're a professional chess master I'm a a grandmas of chess it becomes um that that's like very respectable grandmas is very close to Grand wizard though that's one of the hilarious things about the KKK they have wizards the grand wizard the like what he's a grand wizard of the KKK he's a he's a wizard you [ __ ] child you're a wizard uh how the [ __ ] did I get there point is there's no point I've no point point is um video games uh they scare the [ __ ] out of me cuz they cost me a few years of my life not really I mean I had a good time I had fun learned learned that I have a problem with games along the way but I already knew that
because of pool and uh I knew that because of martial arts too cuz martial arts it's very similar in a lot of ways to uh games most recent podcast with Brian Callen we uh we talked about that with um we're talking about Josh wein who is a uh famous chess Prodigy who uh I feel like he was the inspiration behind the movie Searching for Bobby fiser looking for Bobby Fisher or Searching for Bobby Fisher the movie with the little kid who's a Chessmaster I'm I'm pretty sure Josh weiten was a um a big part of the motivation or the inspiration for that movie and he went on to become uh really fascinated by Jiu-Jitsu was a student of Marcelo Garcia I'm pretty sure he's a black belt now he's a brown belt back when uh I was communicating with him on online we were sending emails back and forth cuz uh my friend Nathan was training with him and uh he connected the two of us together and you know Josh is a fascinating guy and he was also responsible for Marcelo Garcia putting a lot of content online I believe uh hope I'm not wrong about this but Marcelo Mig in action was a really interesting website where Marcelo was uh constantly rolling with people rolling with new people in his school and he was uh you know like people would come in and train with them like Eddie went down Eddie Bravo went down there and he trained with them and they they film it they put the role um the sparring session online they're all very friendly sparring sessions but you know competitive and if you don't know Marcelo Garcia he is a fascinating character himself he's a brilliant brilliant Jiu-Jitsu player who's a really nice guy and you look at him he's like kind of babyfaced and smiley but he's just one of the best in the world and um he doesn't compete anymore he's getting older and you know he stepped down but I had a the opportunity to watch him compete in 2003 in uh Brazil in South Pao Brazil uh that was back when Eddie Bravo uh choked out hoer Gracie or Tapped Out Hoy Gracie with a triangle choke he was the first American to ever tap a Gracie and in that Main uh tournament this this huge Abu Dhabi submission tournament the star of the show was Marcelo Garcia he was without a doubt the star of the show he uh fought this guy he had a match with this guy Victor Shaolin hubero who was a very
respected Jiu-Jitsu guy and he choked him unconscious and it was just a wild scramble he caught his back and Shaolin tried to roll out of it and Marcela just sunk it in deeper and deeper and before Shaolin could even tap he was out cold and uh Marcelo was just running through the competition I remember we were all watching him going holy [ __ ] who is this guy just came out of nowhere and was just so dominant and so Dynamic and he had some really specific moves that he liked to hit um and particularly the way he would take people's backs he was so good at chokes and he also had a really scientific approach um where he wouldn't if you guys can hear that the fan just kicked on do you care no one cares right shut this [ __ ] off off there it goes um but he he had uh an interesting approach where he had a few techniques that he would do but he would do them extremely well like he didn't have this gigantic Arsenal that he would attack with he would attack with Guillotines and he would attack with rear naked chokes and there was a lot of things that he wouldn't do he wasn't a big guy he wasn't like a big muscular guy which is one of the more interesting things about him when you look at him he wasn't a scary guy he wasn't like there's certain Jiu-Jitsu guys you look at them and you go Jesus like hamar pajares is one of the best examples of that cuz he's like just built like a freak like he's built like the comic book version of Wolverine he's a short guy with giant muscles just thick [ __ ] neck just terrifying guy rips people's legs apart too and doesn't NE neily let go when they tap he's kind of known for that which makes him even scarier he's injured a lot of guys but he looks like a scary guy when you look at Marcelo Garcia he's like a really Smiley Guy and um because of the fact that he wasn't a very physically not that he wasn't physically strong but he wasn't a freak athlete wasn't just explosive dominant just really muscular guy he developed just razor sharp technique and leverage and that's how he won his matches with that's how he won his matches which made it even more impressive really and his his main techniques were chokes so most of the time he's putting guys to sleep or or forcing them to tap but there was a lot of techniques that were really common
well-respected techniques that he just never used and he would openly talk about them like the Cur uh which is a famous technique it's actually called the double wrist lock in uh catch wrestling catch wrestling people think about pro wrestling when you think about pro wrestling you think about like Hulk Hogan and The Rock and the theatrics and these prescripted events but wrestling used to be at one point in time it used to be an actual match like there was actual professional wrestling and there was a a a style of wrestling called catch or catch as catch can um I think that's how they would say it and catch PCH wrestling there's like these guys like Carl gotch and farmer Burns and a lot of guys who wound up teaching uh some modernday MMA fighters and grappling competitors like Josh Barnett Josh Barnett is probably the most famous and the most successful catch wrestling Enthusiast and practitioner like uh Josh Barnett has tapped out some really famous Brazilian jiu-jitsu competitors like um Heron Gracie or uh Dean liser Dean liser being in incredibly impressive because Dean hadn't tapped to anybody in God I want to say at least 10 years when Josh finished him in uh this competition called metamoris but um that's what wrestling used to be and they had a bunch of submissions like a lot of the submissions that we think of as jiujitsu submissions also existed in C wrestling and I guess when people are you know grappling the people have been grappling through the beginning of time I mean when people first started fighting that's probably how they fought each other they probably grabbed each other and got close enough to bite or hang on to each other and then slowly people started realizing hey you know when I do this it seems to keep the guy away from me or when I do this I can hold on to him or I used to hold them like this but now I realize when I hold them like this it works even better and uh when I do this it really hurts and when I do this it doesn't hurt so they you know I mean back in the days of the the Spartans and the the Romans if you look at uh some of the statues like I was in Italy recently we were we went to Rome and we uh looked at some of the the artwork of the
Vatican in particular there's just a lot of statues of guys wrestling a lot of a lot of looks like like grappling holds and grappling positions so it's been around forever but what Brazilian jiu-jitsu really was is these guys were not very big ilio and Carlos Gracie they weren't the biggest guys in the world they were small and they weren't physically strong and they figured out how to use technique and leverage to overcome physical strength and one of the matches that alio got in early in his career he would have these these crazy matches with people he had a match with this guy named Kimura and kamimura caught him in um what wrestling would call a double wrist lock where you clamp down one hand on the wrist and then you throw an overhook around the arm and clamp your other hand down on your wrist so you have one hand on his wrist one hand on your wrist and it creates this awesome fulcrum point and you can manipulate someone's arm but Marcel Garcia always felt like that position required a lot of physical strength and he wasn't a very strong guy so he just abandoned it he just decided it wasn't an option and he was just going to concentrate primarily on things that were sort of what just had ultimate technique to them and chokes pretty much have ultimate technique and one of the reasons why a choke is an ultimate technique is if someone lands it perfectly they you go unconscious whereas an armar like guys have gotten their arm broken before and come back and fought and won and had their arm awfully hyp extended and come back and won like a perfect example in jiujitsu is hajer Gracie versus Jacare is a very famous match between two guys that are competing in MMA now but back when they were fighting in Jiu-Jitsu they were amongst the best in the world and hajer Gracie caught Jacare in an arm bar and snapped his arm and jock would not tap he would not tap and he fought out of it and eventually um he was ahead on points when he got up uh when he got out of the armb bar but his arm was just destroyed so if I remember correctly I think he might have even tucked his arm inside his belt and just kept going until the time limit ran out and then uh raised his one good arm and got all excited and you know had won because he gutted it
out and would not tap when this guy snapped his [ __ ] arm arm and this is by the way professional jiujitsu this isn't even MMA this is not like uh you know a Ronda Rousey match or a Conor McGregor fight where they're making millions and millions of dollars I don't know how much money this guy was getting paid for for this Jiu-Jitsu match in his sponsors and how much it was actually Worth to him but as far as his pride it was worth it to him to actually get his arm broken instead of tapping which is [ __ ] crazy uh so boy that's a long and circuitous I've lost my own train of thought my train of thought was that there's certain techniques that you you could really hurt a guy but they don't have to quit and hoder Gracie landed the perfect armar on joare broke his arm and joare still won the fight on points at least I mean if they had been fighting old school Gracie way hajer probably would have eventually got him because Jacare really couldn't defend himself correctly anymore and he would he would eventually since he's only got one arm to defend himself hoder probably would have W up choking him or or catching him in something else uh but you know it's entirely possible he wouldn't and it's entirely possible that jocker even with a broken arm could have gotten him but the point being when you choke someone to sleep instead of break their arm they can't do anything they're done you you put them to sleep and that was Marcelo Garcia's philosophy he realized that he could just put someone to sleep and then there could be no debate as to whether or not he was going to win and no debate as to whether or not the the move was actually efficient or effective it was obviously effective the guy was asleep and uh that's what we saw in Brazil when he fought uh Shaolin and just put him to sleep I mean in seconds too it's a crazy crazy video that you could watch on YouTube um so Josh whiteskin who was a um a student of marcelos put all of uh marcelo's moves and and sort of just sort of like a as something that people can learn from and and grow from and put it all online so games Doom podcast so Josh who is a obviously because of he's a chess Prodigy is fascinated by games and chess being one of the most intellectually
inspiring games got really into Jiu-Jitsu as well so I I just know because of the way I got into martial arts and the way I got into video Gam games and pool it's just there's something uh about those weird challenges that can really they can uh really excite the mind the only problem is I don't necessarily know if they have the same kind of real world benefits as getting really good at a sport or getting really good at an actual physical activity where you move around and do things so I don't know uh but we will eventually do a doom podcast and I will uh I will prepare myself where I I make sure that there's uh no [ __ ] way I get completely and totally addicted anymore cuz I've been there I've been there it's not the move I can't I don't have time for that anymore uh other questions here who will do International pay-per-view instead of you uh if you don't know what that question is about I uh decided recently I was getting at one point in time I was going to not work for the UFC anymore I was going to just do these fight companion podcasts that I do with Eddie Bravo and Brendan sha and Brian call sometimes and and other people sometimes too when those guys are out of town I did one recently with Joey Diaz was one of the best ones ever but what did it what the fight companions are is we just sit around we watch the fights and we talk some [ __ ] and it's I'm not working that way um I just work a little bit too much um between standup comedy writing standup comedy doing podcasts researching the guests researching subjects um researching potential guests uh and then life you know all the other things that I have to do whether it's exercise yoga forget about family time all that other stuff is you know that Al there's a lot of time that is already accounted for and then there was the UFC and I had to figure out what things I wasn't what what what things I could cut back on I wasn't going to cut back on family life um I wasn't going to I don't I don't want to cut back on my recreational activities because they keep me sane for for for me I need a bunch of stuff that I'm interested in I can't just work uh even though work is awesome I I I love doing standup uh love
I even love doing the UFC I love it I love it I mean it's it's a very exciting job and it's an honor to be able to do but but it but it's it's work and it requires energy and it requires focus and I feel like at the end of the day you only have so much energy and so much focus and you could be in a situation where you almost are too fortunate and you have you have too many things you enjoy and that's where I kind of found myself so um so that's what I decided I decided what I'm going to do is I am going to only do North American pay-per-view that's it no more Fox shows no more long international flights because first of all those things [ __ ] wreck your body they wreck me I would do them and then for days like I just got back from Italy it took me like a week like at least four or five days before I F felt normal again it just your body's all [ __ ] up you're jet lagged you're confused you're exhausted you just feel you feel like you're at 60% all the time you're always trying to push through and uh it's a drag enthusiasm and having uh Vitality like physical vitality and feeling good and feeling healthy is a big factor in life for me um that's that's a huge thing I like feeling good I like being healthy when I know something is going to make me feel physically bad and make me feel unhealthy I try to avoid it as much as possible you know there's sometimes I give in like uh maybe I'll have a couple of drinks with some friends and we get a little crazy and then next day I'm like oh you dummy I've done that before obviously but even the like a hangover I feel better in a day those [ __ ] jet lags like a a flight from whoops a flight from Sydney just knocked over the phone a flight from Sydney Australia that [ __ ] takes me a long time to get better from uh I don't want to be complaining here my point being I try to avoid things that make me feel shitty physically and unfortunately a lot of flying makes you feel shitty and especially flying long hours so who's going to do the international pay-per-views I think what the way they're doing it now is Dan Hardy was a former fighter and uh he's been a guest on this podcast he's a [ __ ] awesome guy super smart dude uh super tuned in
really interesting and intelligent Guy and um Dan actually trained with Dan for years back in the day when Dan used to train at 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu whenever he was in town he was getting ready for a fight he would come to uh Eddie Bravo's gym and train I trained with him multiple times super nice guy so Dan Hardy will probably do uh a lot of them and then of course uh Brian Stan who's fantastic who's also been on this podcast he'll do a lot of them um and then there's also Kenny floran who's also great he'll do I don't I don't know how they work that out like who does what but those are the ones who are going to do it so uh that would be the answer to that you [ __ ] um I don't know I mean I I really don't know um I don't know what's going to happen with this new ownership thing either there's a bunch of new people that uh took over the UFC now the UFC is still going to be run by Dana White which is one of the reasons why I decided to stay because uh you know Dana and I are are close we've been good friends for a long time and one of the things that I was really nervous about was the idea that Dana was going to leave and some suits were going to take over and then I was going to have to have meetings with people they were going to tell me what I could or couldn't say or give me advice on how to do it or any of that stupid [ __ ] I was like [ __ ] this this that was like it was answering the question for me like what am I going to cut back in my life as soon as I heard that they were thinking about selling I was like well that that answered it for me but as time went on and I really thought more and more about it I I really thought that I would miss it and I don't want to and also um I mean I don't mean to sound corny but all the love that I got from people online it influenced my be my my thinking too it made me think um that I probably should think about sticking it out so uh that's the answer to that what do I think about the fery Paradox that's an interesting question if you don't know what the fery Paradox is the actual definition is here I'll find it here the actual definition is it's about aliens the question is where are okay here it is where is everybody the idea is if there is it's named after I'll go to the Wikipedia The fery Paradox is named after enrio fmy uh it's the apparent
contradiction between the lack of evidence and the high probability estimates those given by the Drake equation for the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and the Drake equation is it's a an equation that's here I'll go to the Wikipedia that it it's used to arrive at an estimate of the number of active communicative extraterrestrial civilizations in the Milky Way Galaxy hm and the firmy Paradox is if you look at all of the stars uh in our galaxy alone billions of stars and billions of galaxies hundreds of billions of stars hundreds of billions of galaxies many of them which are many many many years older than our galaxy many years older than our planet the question is why haven't these aliens kind conted us where is everybody so that's the question the firmy Paradox I've thought about this a lot so I'm actually happy about this question I have a feeling that our ideas about what a society or what civilization does as it advances are based entirely on our idea that we are dependent upon the monkey body that we're dependent upon the the physical flesh and the the idea of being somewhere in a measurable way that that's the only way you can experience something um I think that that I think that's that's an error on our part I don't think that we are going to be attached to the physical body forever this sounds like hippie nonsense silly woo woo [ __ ] but this is my thought behind it I think that first of all we are moving closer and closer every day to being integrated with technology and by integrated with technology I think initially it's going to happen where there's going to be some sort of a a chip that we have in our body whether it's uh something that we use that helps us it enhances our vision or it enhances our mental function or our ability to communicate with each other or our ability to access information it's entirely possible that it might start out as some sort of a helmet that we put on that lets us you know like maybe like a ball cap with electrodes on it and you put this thing on and it stimulates areas of your brain that allow you to
see these images and maybe perhaps like some sort of a screen like Minority Report like it'll be in front of you where you'll be able to access data where you'll be able to ask it question questions I mean I have this Hy Siri function we have this Hy Siri function on our um our phones that people get pissed off when I say it when I say those words on the podcast because if you have an Android phone you don't know this but if you have an iPhone you have that option on if someone says those words hey Siri your phone goes like you're asking it a question so you say Hey Siri um where does a fell get a [ __ ] around here or whatever ask it some questions and it'll actually answer you you you could say hey Siri call Duncan it'll call Duncan uh Hey Siri navigate to the Hollywood Bowl it'll give you the directions to get to the Hollywood Bowl in real time it's amazing and it's Science Fiction it's something that just a few years ago was completely outside of our imagination we really didn't think that they were going to have something that sat on the table next to you some small little sliver of Glass and Metal and whatever the [ __ ] it's made out of electrodes no it's in there silicone that you could talk to that thing and say Hey Siri and it would uh you you could say hey Siri what is the fery Paradox and it would Google it for you this is all something that's going on right now and this is just one step it's one step in what is really as long as human beings stay alive as long as we don't get nuked as long as we don't murk ourselves as long as we don't get [ __ ] up by a super volcano or an asteroid or some polar shift or some natural disaster as long as that doesn't happen and we just not we not obviously not me but people smarter than me who do this kind of [ __ ] they're going to continue to innovate and as they continue to innovate we're going to get technology that is more and more powerful and I think more and more integrated in our our our lives and in our physical bodies I think it's going to reach there's going to be a bottleneck where holding a device in your hand it it it just doesn't have the same effect or do the same amount of things as they could do if they actually put it in your head and I think people are going to [ __ ] volunteer for it I
think they're going to volunteer for it like they volunteer for braces like they get eyeglasses at the optometrist like they get fake tits people going to they're going to get these things put in their bodies and it's going to be really common and maybe won't have to be in your brain maybe that'll be the the hold back people like I don't want something in my brain and they'll go well we don't have to do that we put in your wrist it'll communicate with your brain through the the nervous system or through electrical impulses through your tissue itself and maybe that along with some sort of a hat that you put on that allows you to interface with the internet that's going to be a step but somewhere along the line if you listen to guys like Ray kurile who believe Ry believes that you're going to Avent itially be able to download your Consciousness into a computer which of course gets really [ __ ] weird because what are you then are you still here's the question if you download your Consciousness into a computer are you still existing in the physical sense so if you exist in the physical sense and your Consciousness is downloaded into a computer do the do the two get to talk to each other or are you like or do you do you end your life in a physical sense and then begin one in a digital sense and is it even a life but if it exists in some sort of a matrix like state if they can figure out a way you know there's a lot of people today that just they just they're not happy with the the life that they've been handed with the the the rle of the dice maybe they have physical deformities maybe they have poor health there's a lot of uh people that just got a shitty hand when it comes to life like uh life is not even in the the cards that it deals I don't have to tell you this you all know this right and if someone came along like uh what was that guy's name in The Matrix the guy who uh wound up selling everybody out who just said he wanted to be famous or rich or something like that he's eating a steak in the Matrix and he decides to give in that that kind of existence if someone comes along and says look you don't have to live this life in the physical sense anymore instead of being dependent upon this monkey body and the
tooth Fang and Claw of natural selection and evolution and this just the struggle the struggle of being a [ __ ] human being instead of that you can exist in this perfect state where you are constantly in love and just filled with joy and having a wonderful life filled with only positive experiences and you can enjoy this with with no negative repercussions you could just you you can become a part of the Matrix a part of the thing whatever they're going to call it and from there you will be the architect of your existence you'll be able to decide this idea that love well the bad days they make you feel good about the good days you know there's no sunshine Without Rain you know you got to have good and evil well that's that's here that's in this state in this physical state yeah you have to have good and you have to have evil as we know it right now in this life we do appreciate our loved ones when something terrible happens when there's a tragedy happens um we we do uh appreciate the people that are alive when someone we care about dies those are all those are all true but is that the only way that we can appreciate each other is that the only way we can enjoy life some people would say yes but I don't think they'd really know I think that's just we're basing that on what we have experienced and what we we currently the data we're pulling from being a human being living on Earth if someone can engineer and this is not something that might happen in a year or in a 100 years but we might be talking about something that happens in a thousand years or 2,000 years who knows know but around the same time where we think that a technologically based civilization would develop the capability of Star Travel of being able to travel not just into uh another solar system but perhaps you do another galaxy maybe hundreds of galaxies away who knows but that kind of incredible ability to control your environment we might not ever get there and we might not ever get there because we realize that being there physically is not nearly as important as the experience like um you know I've often said this about psychedelics that people say oh you know you have a psychedelic drug experience
yeah oh you're imagining things that are happening you're hallucinating yeah well sort of yes but no like it might not actually be happening like if you have this experience where you take a psychedelic drug and you are transported to the center of the universe and you are communicating with love with love in the form of beautifully lit neon geometric patterns that are constantly changing and morphing and they're filling you up with wisdom and and joy and appreciation well people say well that's a hallucination you're taking a drug and you're having a hallucination Maybe but either way the experience is still the same like the experience of meeting God because you took mushrooms and and having this incredible meeting with the the Divine force of the universe if if that happens in real life or if that happens in a psychedelic drug trip the feeling and the experience are still the same like it might not be a real physical thing in the sense of you might not be able to take it and and put it in a pillowcase and throw it on a scale and weigh it but you can't who's to say you could ever do that anyway like it's the exact same experience of meeting God it might be just as good is my point so this idea that well I don't want to live in The Matrix man I want to live in the real world are you sure what's the benefit of the real world I mean is the only reason why we think that the real world contain some sort of benefit for us is because that's the only model that we have to go on that this is the pattern that we've been following our whole lives that this idea that you know you live and then you die and then you do your best along the way and sometimes you got to push through the pain and sometimes you got to [ __ ] get up in the morning when you don't want to get up and you got to you got to work hard when you work hard it pays off and you get a good life and you know your your discipline equal equals your freedom and there's a lot of thoughts that we have about living life that are applicable to this physical knock on wood life this real life that you and I are experiencing right now everybody listening to this podcast you had to plug your phone in you had to
listen to it on a computer you had to touch some things and something had to happen for you to for you to experience something in in a in a real sense but that's just because this is what we're used to we we we're definitely not used to if you talk about human beings if you went back 200 years ago we're definitely not used to the internet we're definitely not used to movies 200 years ago we didn't even have [ __ ] cars if you wanted a picture of something you had to draw it we're used to all these things now we're used to photographs the idea of not being able to take photos on vacation is alien the idea of having to get in a boat and travel across the country like I was talking about how I just got back from Italy if I lived in the 1800s I would have had to been on a boat for months I would had to made it from California all the way to New York and then I had would have had to been in a [ __ ] boat and gone across the ocean the same way my grandparents did when they were little kids my grandparents came over here from Italy when they were like um I think my grandfather was like 7 years old I think he said I would have had to have done all that stuff it's not going to Happ happen right so the idea of no photos is alien the idea of no movies no no no no cameras no TV shows no radio there's no radio back then what the [ __ ] you couldn't tune into a radio show in 1800 they didn't have them they didn't exist all these things that are now a normal everyday part of our Lives we alien just a few hundred years ago which in in terms of human civilization and and certainly in terms of the life of human beings the existence of human beings it's a not even a blink of an eye this is all new and we couldn't imagine life without it I think if time keeps going or if rather uh civilization keeps going over time if we don't do something incredibly stupid or get [ __ ] up in some sort of a natural catastrophe we're going to come up with an ability to manipulate our environment our world our perceptions our mind to create an artificial World an artificial universe that's impossible for our little [ __ ] chimpanzee brains to to imagine I don't think we have the capacity to do to to connect all the dots I think with each new invention it opens up a new complete realm of possibility like you couldn't
say to someone in in 1800 one day you're going to have Google cuz they'd be like what the [ __ ] are you talking about well one day you're going to be able to talk to your phone what the [ __ ] is a phone well one day you're going to be able to talk to your electronic device what's Electronics what are you what the [ __ ] are you saying what are you a wizard that you would you would be saying something to them that didn't make any sense at all and that I think is how we have to look at the possibility for two or 3 hundred years from now there's going to be new things that get invented along the way and you know in the old west it was electricity Metals new ways of connecting things and then teletype and Morse code and all these different things got invented before they invented computers the Internet the world we're we're dealing with right now when when you look at two 300 years from now I think it's entirely possible that these ideas that we have about what the future is going to be like there's there's big chunks missing there's chunks missing from our thought process and it's because these Paradigm shifting Revelations inventions and Innovations they haven't occurred yet and when those things do occur I think it's going to Forever change what the future will be and as these things occur whether it's the ability to download consciousness or whether it's the ability to record thoughts in in your own mind record memories dreams that's a real possibility what they're thinking is there's going to be a time where you are going to have a hard drive like a virtual hard drive or a physical hard drive rather like someone's going to put an SD card slot in your head not an SD card slot but something probably much smaller it might even be as as small as like Ray Kur said as a cell like a blood cell like one red blood cell in your body that's a machine or a computer or a camera or some sort of recording device this thing may be able to record your thoughts record how it feels to be you like say if you uh you know fill in the blank if you're um I don't know who Ashton Kutcher let's pretend you're Ashton Kutcher if Ashton Kutcher decides to record
his thoughts and his life and his day and to take it and upload it to the web and you could feel what it feels like to be him you know or maybe someone who you would always love to find out how they think you know like maybe Chris Rock like a great comedian like how does Chris Rock look at the world where's he coming up with material how does this guy think what how does he feel about himself you know like a guy like Lou CK who's a u very self-deprecating guy how does he feel about about himself you know maybe a guy like Jon Jones a great fighter or Demetrius Mighty Mouse Johnson how does he feel about himself how does he think what what does it feel like to be him what does it feel like to be Mighty Mouse for a day what does it feel like to go through a workout you could actually feel it you could experience it you could beat him for a short period of time I think that is inevitable I really do I think that is as inevitable as recording uh a picture of your kid blowing out their birthday cake and you watching a video on your iPhone when you're doing that when you're videotaping someone's wedding when you're videotaping a sporting event you're holding your camera up at the UFC and you're watching the fights you're capturing time you you you are capturing an image of something we're so used to it we don't we don't even understand how [ __ ] insane it is it is so insane that you could take something that's so small it's not not even as thick as a deck of cards you take it out of your pocket and it could film hours of [ __ ] hours you can capture hours of images and then you show it to me and you could have been on the other side of the world you could be in New Zealand and you could be filming some insane Mountain View that was in the movie The Hobbit and it could be you and your friends and your backpack in there and your laugh laughing and joking and you make a video and then you can send it to me through the [ __ ] air and it could reach my phone on the other side of the planet in seconds this is nuts it's nuts it is completely [ __ ] bananas but we're really used to it and it stands to reason to me that this ability is only going to accelerate they're only going to get better it's only going to get more more in depth it's it's only going
to get the experience it's not just going to be visual right now it's Visual and it's two-dimensional it's going to be virtual it's going to turn into a virtual experience then it's going to be something that involves much more than just the simple senses of sound and sight you're going to have it's going to there's going to be feeling there's going to be neurological responses there's going to be Memory there's going to be then it's going to be emotional you're going to be able to feel emotions I think we're going to be able to record thoughts and ideas in the same way we're able to in code and record visual images like photographs or or audio like this podcast like you know I'm sitting here right now what time is it 6:34 Friday July 29th in Atlanta I'm recording this you might be listening to this a hundred years from now in the future and you might be saying whoa like I was listening to this Alan Watts uh recording the other day that was on universal basic income which is a a constant uh subject right now it's been going on around the idea of if you actually just gave people money so that they could live so they didn't have to worry about making a living it would open them up to a lot of other possibilities and this idea that putting people on welfare or the Dole it just makes them lazy might not necessarily be true and that it actually might be better if we didn't look at it that way if we just look at it the way of once your basic needs are covered then you're free to express yourself in a much more natural way without desperation and that desperation doesn't always mean you're going to make the best decisions and that it really would cost us less if we gave people money okay anyway point being this is an Alan Watts uh discussion where Alan Watts was making this speech about this from the 1960s so it was more than 50 years old um I think somewhere around 50 point being it's it's entirely possible that this recording that I'm making right now someday somebody might listen to 50 years from now 100 years from now 200 years from now and they'll laugh they'll laugh at how wrong I got it or maybe they'll laugh at how I called it and we we will be living in some sort of a strange world where
reality is not something that you you you measure you can't like take a ruler to it or you know and measure the temperature of it or put it on a scale it might be something that exists in some sort of a quasi reality setting uh where it's it's real you're experiencing it but it doesn't exist in a physical form that's entirely possible that that's our future it's entirely possible that we through technology figure out a way to create not just an alternative Dimension but infinite alternative Dimensions infinite alternative existences so this idea that we're just going to get to a certain point where we realize that uh we could build a spaceship the size of the Empire State Building and [ __ ] shoot off to Alpha centuri and setup shop there and uh you know find some snails and turn them into people I don't think so I don't think we're going to be traveling I really I I don't think that's the future I think uh I think we may for you know the next foreseeable future for the foreseeable future we might be sending robots to Mars like we're doing now we might send them off to Pluto and to these other planets and we might get invaluable data about the the nature of our solar system and you know there's this planet that they think is outside of uh Pluto's orbit past the Kyper belt now they're calling Planet X and people have talked about this forever there's some giant ass Planet out there that's I think it's more than four times larger than Earth and they're pretty sure it exists like 90 something per sure yeah that's all awesome and fascinating and amazing and beautiful but I don't I have I have a feeling that our future doesn't exist in a physical sense the way we think it does I think we're married to this idea because it's all we've ever known but I don't necessarily think it's all we're capable of I think it's entirely possible that one day we might create a whole new world and this also might be possible with with the Advent of artificial intelligence artificial intelligence is another [ __ ] rabbit hole because if you want to you want to get your mind blown listen to not I don't think it was the last one I think Sam Harris and I have talked
about it twice uh we talked about it on I think the last podcast and maybe even more in depth the podcast before it might be both of them I'd have to go back and remember I've done more than 800 [ __ ] podcasts now so even though my memory is pretty decent I I really lose track of which one was what and what was happening when but uh the point being the conversation that I had with him about artificial intelligence was a mind blower a real mindblower where it's in my in my eyes it's one of those things just like we're talking about uh technological innovation I think everyone would say everyone I mean just conservative people that are dreamers if we start talking about the potential for the future uh are is there going to be Innovation yes everyone would say yes everyone everyone would say yes if people don't blow themselves up if uh we don't get hit by an asteroid if Yellowstone doesn't explode and wipe out everyone in North America will we continue to make better Electronics will we continue to innovate we will we continue to make new inventions everybody would say yes everybody well if that's the case artificial intelligence is almost inevitable if it's 100 years from now if it's 200 years from now whatever it is one day eventually they're going to figure out a way to make something that can think for itself me Tesla has [ __ ] cars that drive themselves now you you can press auto drive or whatever the the button is that you press and these [ __ ] things will drive they hit the brakes they make turns they file the navigation system they have sensors that detect cars they break at traffic I mean it's [ __ ] nuts and it's just crept up on us nobody saw this coming 10 years ago nobody thought in 10 years nobody thought in 2006 10 years from now we're going to have drivable driver lless cars cars that you take your hand off the wheel there's a hilarious photo of a guy they snaap pictures of him on the highway I think it was outside of San Francisco where he was asleep asleep at the wheel going to work and his car was driving down the highway this is this is all new right and what is it going to be like 10 years from now I don't think we know I think we could guess I think we could have
beautiful ideas but I think when every new invention gets created and every new door that gets opened up by new technologies it it creates the potential for a gang of other new exponentially increasing new technologies so with artificial intelligence I think it's entirely possible that we can literally create something that creates universes something that creates universes that don't exist in a physical sense like you go to the Moon you pick up moon rocks you come back to earth but rather something that exists in another dimension that we find portals or gateways or that we find frequencies I've always thought that it's it's possible that planets themselves or that uh rather reality itself is like a station on the dial and I've read that scientists believe that there are at least 11 Dimensions I don't know how they understand this I don't know how they they it's but that's when they get to those you know those yellow legal notepads where those guys scribble [ __ ] down on it you go what the [ __ ] is that but you have to be a theoretical physicist to in order to understand what the [ __ ] they're writing I I think those guys have come up with some equation that they all agree upon where they believe that is entirely possible that there are 11 Dimensions at least and this is today in 2016 right if you ask scientist in 1955 they probably look at you like you have [ __ ] three heads that's a blink of an eye 1955 compared to 2016 it is a blink of an eye it seems like 60 plus years for us but it ain't [ __ ] in terms of the world in terms of human history and in terms of the you know the evolution of this bizarre are talking monkey it's uh it's nothing and in that time things have changed in spectacular ways I think it's entirely possible that through especially the invention and innovation of artificial intelligence and its ability to innovate its ability to improve upon ideas that human beings have created because that was one of the most mind-blowing Parts about the Sam Harris podcast was he said that within weeks they will be able to do 10,000 plus years of what would take us as far as Innovation so the world will change so fast once artificial intelligence is
is when once it goes live once Skynet goes live the world is going to change so much that it's almost impossible for us to understand it's impossible for us to guess I'm standing up here now because I'm kind of freaking myself out and I'm going to and my throat is getting a little scratchy but that's what I think about the fmy Paradox I think I think that we're going to outgrow this idea of being somewhere in a physical sense and I think that if there are aliens they're going to contact us through our own minds they're going to contact us through dreams they I mean aliens might exist in the form of a ination imagination itself might be like a kind of energy like a kind almost like a life form if you look around at the world obviously imagination is something that you know comes out of the brain and people create things and it's just you know the idea that it's a life form is ridiculous I get it yes you're right but the imagination is responsible for every single physical thing that human beings have ever created this building that I'm in right right now came about because of the imagination the the phone that I'm talking on came about because of the imagination without the thought of these ideas without someone saying hm what would happen if we took this mud and turned it into a square and then dried it out could we make a brick oo and then if I stack a brick on top of a brick dude I'm making a wall and that all came out of the mind it came out of an idea how amazing would it be if we found out that those ideas themselves were alive that that is the way these life forms Express themselves much what much like the way disease expresses itself inside your body like when you catch a cold right you you have a life form that's growing and feeding off of you and your body is out of balance your immune system is battling this virus this disease you could look at it on a microscope ooh look it's the staff virus or it's the flu Oh it's malaria oh he's got the malaria virus well what is that thing well that thing is a life form it's some sort of an existing living thing that's trying to multiply multiply and grow and ultimately it would like to
keep it would like to kill your body it would like to take your body over and it would love to spread itself to a bunch of other people and uh take out a bunch of folks and that's what happens every year with the flu or every year with malaria if you want a harrowing tale of what it's like to have malaria listen to my friend Justin Ren who's been on the podcast many times uh who was just on the last episode who uh goes to the Congo regularly to uh build Wells for the pygm he just an amazing guy just beautiful person who is doing this incredible thing and helping these people but this [ __ ] CAU malaria three times now it's scary [ __ ] malaria is some sort of a weird life form right what if ideas were life forms they're just life forms that exist in a non-physical way and you can make yourself more accessible you could catch these ideas better you can catch these life forms you can catch these things that will ultimately lead to the transformation of the very world around you they've developed air conditioning these ideas have made heat they figured out how to harness fire they figured out how to take rubber tires and put them around metal wheels attach it to a frame and allow you to fall asleep inside of it as it takes you to work that's all because of imagination know that that imagination is is something that you can't measure it's not a physical thing you can't you can't show it you you don't take like a a litmus test you can't go to the the store and hey I tested positive for imagination no it's it's just there and you access it and you you you sit around you Daydream and you lay on your back in the grass and you come up with an idea what the [ __ ] is that we don't know we don't know we totally take it for granted but if you look around this [ __ ] spectacular world that you see in front of you when you step outside of your house this bizarre world if you lived in a in a natural world if you lived in a jungle or if you lived in a in a Mountain setting and you had never seen human civilization you were confronted with it for the first time you would freak the [ __ ] out you would be like what kind of bizarre thing is creating these enormous structures with glass and stone and on a scale that is it is impossible to
comprehend a human being creating a skyscraper one person no no no they had to work together how many people hundreds okay how' they do it they have metal they use machines What machines yeah yeah yeah they have combustion engines what's that well they're explosions controlled explosions inside of a metal structure that that powers these gears and these gears can lift up things thousands of pounds and carry them through the air and then they they put these glass walls on top of these buildings like what the [ __ ] this is all because of the imagination and this this this idea that the imagination is just some sort of like oh he's imagining things oh silly he's a dreamer it's been kind of put in our head since we were young because we're we're taught to be pragmatic or we're T to taught to be disciplined and taught to to you know to go out there and get things done and pull yourself up by your bootstraps and all these like uh hardcore sort of uh I don't know what the word I'm looking for organic ways of looking at productivity in life but ultimately this imagination is going to lead us to create something that can change the very nature of what life is so if that made any sense at all to anybody but me I'd be [ __ ] shocked but that's my answer God damn that was a long ass [ __ ] answer um is almost 7:00 here and I got to leave soon so maybe I answer one more thoughts on the Putin Russia Trump implications around the Democratic party Wikileaks email reveals that I think that they were saying people were saying that Trump was going to get in trouble because he told Russia to to hack Hillary Clinton's emails or hack the Democratic um uh party wikileak emails that's ridiculous that is really ridiculous I think that is one of the dumbest things this idea that Trump should somehow or another be accountable and held accountable for Espionage how about the fact that the the Democrats were plotting against one of their own how about the fact they were working towards getting Hillary Clinton to be the the nominee for the party they're working towards that like they're supposed to be impartial he's a Democrat too and they were actively trying to
make her be the the representative for the party and then when the woman who has to step down because the emails she has to step down because it's revealed that they were actively plotting to get Bernie Sanders in as or excuse me Hillary Clinton in over Bernie Sanders she after she steps down immediately gets hired by Hillary Clinton like immediately it's it's so transparent it's hilarious I think what I was saying earlier that one of the good things about a guy like Gary Johnson is we're realizing how stupid this [ __ ] two- party system is we're being hosed whether you're a Hillary supporter or whether you're a trump supporter you have to admit that they are not ideal neither one of those people is ideal you see all those people that are at the Democratic Convention and they're all smiling and laughing and they don't really believe she's ideal they believe this is all we have right now Hill Hillary Clinton was giving a speech and her [ __ ] husband bill fell asleep he fell asleep I mean apparently he's not in good health right now he's not doing so hot but he's sitting there in the audience and if he if he's in such bad shape that he can't stay awake he should be in bed somewhere he he fell asleep in the audience that's how [ __ ] boring and stupid things are and it's a ho job and it's a ho job that I think is is just going to be here for a little while longer it's going to be like powdered wigs it's it's it's a nonsense way to run a nation of 300 million informed people there's too many of us now there's too many of us and people know too much it's not 1800s where you needed this sort of representative government because you couldn't get to those people and they couldn't get their their opinion to you that's it's not the case anymore we live in a different world um that's it I'm G to end I'm gonna end this [ __ ] thing um I'm going to try to get Ian McCall on and either I'll attach it to this podcast or I'll put it on a second one depending on how much Ian and I talk but this one has gone on for an hour and 34 minutes which is I was like what the [ __ ] am I going to talk about meanwhile I couldn't shut
the [ __ ] up and it's weird when I'm doing these things because you're trying to not be conscious of the fact that you're doing one of these things so you're just trying to like let the thoughts flow but in the meantime it's like you have to resist the urge to think about the fact that you're talking and that you're talking into a phone and that you're trying not to [ __ ] it up and you're trying to be as honest and transparent about your thoughts as possible while still make it entertaining don't say too many ums don't ramble too much is is weird I've done these before in the past but I haven't done one like this in a long time it just shows you how talented Bill Burr is cuz that [ __ ] guy does one of these every Monday and every Thursday Bill bur if you haven't heard his podcast it's awesome it's the Bill Burr Monday Morning podcast but he also does a Thursday version of it which I think he calls the Thursday afternoon Monday morning podcast but and honestly bill is um he's a good friend of mine and a brilliant comedian and he's also a guy who's singular in his focus and uh I really admire him as a comic it's one of the things I was thinking about when I was thinking that maybe I would stop doing commentary I'm like this [ __ ] guy just does standup I mean that's what he does he just does a standup and look at the results they're amazing he's always got new [ __ ] he's always killing it I I love watching his act he's consistently funny but he's very singular in his focus and um anyway I'm rambling uh Bill bur Monday Morning podcast check it out it's awesome if you haven't heard of bill before as a comic he's not just one of the best alive today he's one of the best ever he's one of my all-time favorite stand-up comedians so with that let's end this [ __ ] thing so uh thanks for tuning in um I I may do this again or I might be completely [ __ ] burnt out or I might freak myself out about how goddamn crazy I sound when I start rambling about artificial intelligence and the the birth of alternative dimensions and universes out of the mind of monkeys but until then all right that's it goodbye thank you appreciate the [ __ ] out of you people and uh talk to you soon big
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